Champion Stadium

[swift swan]

A grass support

[warped jungle]

Yup got her at 5/5. Do I need to grid her or is she fine as it is?

[swift swan]

https://youtu.be/-6GbfJmhETI?si=t58PITACNu91aCmc was a showcase I did with powerboosted Silver vs fire-weak Glacia. Your ss red isn't EX'd but you get the idea of the move rotation

[swift swan]

TM MPR preferably

[warped jungle]

okay

[swift swan]

She wants to TM 3 times so Red can get +6 attack and special attack for his first sync

[warped jungle]

Doesnt matter if she dies after using 3 tms?

nvm, slow rotations

[swift swan]

Well preferably she doesn't die that quickly

She won't be tanking

[warped jungle]

I'll level her up a bit.

[swift swan]

Dear heavens don't let her tank

She can't tank shit

[warped jungle]

Ho-oh can tank well?

[swift swan]

Yes

[warped jungle]

oaky

[swift swan]

Pay attention to the rotation here. Sunny day, TM, sunny day. Red will have to dire hit+ once, then he can blast burn

Let lyra handle his buffs. TM 3 times

[warped jungle]

So, vigilance on morty, CS2 on Red, nothing on Lyra everyone at lvl 125. Enough?

[swift swan]

Sure

[warped jungle]

okay

Which grid do you suggest I go with? I dont think I can unlock the extra energy thingy they added.

On red

[lean lion]

Here

[warped jungle]

okay thanks

[warped jungle]

I'm definitely doing something wrong aren't I?

Closest I got was the opponent at like 5-10% hp.

Sync did hit well, around 13k

Normal hits were 3k I think.

[lean lion]

Is this your first time doing MM?

[warped jungle]

Yes indeed

[lean lion]

Try lowering the points a little

[warped jungle]

Last 2 runs failed coz ho-oh got poisoned.

[lean lion]

2.5k can be a tough starting point

Do 850-1.5k per stage first to get a feel for the difficulty level

[warped jungle]

Can restart?

After clearing at low level?

*low points

[lean lion]

You can reset MM as many times as you want

[warped jungle]

Won't affect the rewards I hope?

[lean lion]

You'll always get the rewards based on your highest point total, so if that keeps going up you'll keep unlocking more rewards

[warped jungle]

Okay. I'll try 1.5k

2.5k seems doable, I think my rotation is off.

[mellow linden]

You’re not handling your queueing properly when the time comes to Sync

During the final 3 actions before your Sync is ready, wait to queue until Sync is ready, then do Sync -> teammate 1 -> teammate 2

That gives you the opportunity to quadqueue and thus Sync twice before the opponent can Sync

Even if you don’t quadqueue, Adrenaline on the Syncer or some form of turn denial can make up the difference

[warped jungle]

Oh okay, so quad queue is important for syncing twice?

[mellow linden]

Quadqueue or Sync accel/turn denial

[warped jungle]

Okay.

[mellow linden]

But the important thing is to queue Sync before other moves, if you queue it last you’re wasting -2 countdown

[warped jungle]

He dies to poison too sometimes.

[mellow linden]

The Poison isn’t guaranteed, just reset if it happens

[warped jungle]

Okay so in rotations, red always moves first? That's what I always try to do.

Sometime I don't have enough gauge to hit blast burn.

So It messes up the rotation.

[lean lion]

Red can go last so your 3rd move rotation ends on him. Then you queue sync, followed by moves by other 2 pairs

[warped jungle]

I think mgr on Lyra might help a bit with the rotation.

[lean lion]

If you don't have enough guage to queue blast burn after sync, queue TMs with Lyra and Morty and keep gauge full to spend on Blast burn

As long as your sync is powered by sun, it's okay to have one blast burn happen without sun. You can then Sunny Day next rotation.

[mellow linden]

SS Morty should be enough for the gauge as long as you’re not trying to spam damage moves with him and Lyra

[warped jungle]

Okay, it was way easier this run. The mid guy died before I used the second sync somehow.

And blast burn did like 14k

[lean lion]

Yeah that's how it should happen. You don't need 2 syncs to KO mid

Well done!

[warped jungle]

Idk why during the last 5 runs it kept surviving.

[lean lion]

Probably a queuing problem like Cobalt pointed out

They were getting to sync quicker because of it

[warped jungle]

Now, for the poison type, I've got no idea what to do. Only got these poison pairs.

And the rest of the pairs are mentioned above

[lean lion]

You can poison stall with Leaf Eevee + Janine + Lucy

Only Leaf would need to be gridded and Vigilance

[warped jungle]

What type are Janine and Lucy?

[lean lion]

The 2nd and 3rd pairs in the screenshot

[warped jungle]

Don't have vigilance on eevee

Let me see if I can get it.

Wait, NVM, I do have vigilance on it.

[lean lion]

It can still work without it. You just have to pray they don't land crits (unlikely but possible)

[warped jungle]

I do have a built leaf/eevee

[lean lion]

One sec

[warped jungle]

This good enough?

[warped jungle]

NVM, she got a 5/5 expansion too. Time to change grid again.

[lean lion]

Perfect

I went to make this grid

[mellow linden]

The Potion tiles and Recuperation are all you need for Poison stall, tbh

[warped jungle]

Okay cool.

[lean lion]

30% poison chance friend mend is helpful and might as well go through staggering

[mellow linden]

Staggering hinders Poison stall

Otherwise fair enough on Friend Mend

[warped jungle]

Do I remove staggering?

[lean lion]

Noted

[mellow linden]

I’d recommend doing so since Flinch will delay the opponents dying to Poison

[lean lion]

Yeah, Cobalt is right. I've had that happened to me now that I think about it.

[warped jungle]

What do I put in instead of staggering?

[lean lion]

Just go around it and pick up friend mend

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/1700/13300?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggaHB8hIiQmKCsuMDM

[mellow linden]

Side note: 2.5k Poison stall is zero difference in difficulty from 1.5k Poison stall

So if you wanna try and bump up the points for this stage feel free

Just make sure that regardless of points you run the Poison stall params

[warped jungle]

I did the fire with 2.5k points

Might work with this too

[mellow linden]

Ah

Then yeah, just run the 2.5k Poison stall parameters from the pins

[warped jungle]

Yeah, I was surprised too LOL. Blast burn hit HARD. One shot the side units.

[warped jungle]

Okay. Can you share grids for Lucy and Janine too?

[lean lion]

They don't need grids or lucky skills

[warped jungle]

Oh fr?

[lean lion]

Poison everyone with Lucy (poison fang), lower atk/sp atk/spd with Janine (Venom Drench)

Once everyone is poisoned, trap everyone with Wrap

[warped jungle]

Okay. And eevee just to heal?

[lean lion]

Heal/Tank, and sync only with Eevee

[warped jungle]

Okay

Does sync buff affect poison stall?

[mellow linden]

No

[warped jungle]

Okay

[mellow linden]

Not your Sync buffs, anyway

Your opponents will naturally deal more damage as the fight goes on due to their Sync buffs

[warped jungle]

If I remove staggering, I lose the recuperation tile.

Is it okay?

[mellow linden]

Hold on, lemme slap a grid together

[lean lion]

Copy this grid

[warped jungle]

Okay

I was building around tackle mgr LOL. Thanks for the grid

Is losing 20 def/spdef to get tackle mgr worth or nah?

[lean lion]

You won't need the Mgr dw

[warped jungle]

okay

What about lucy and janine's levels?

[mellow linden]

Level 120

[warped jungle]

okay

what about their star levels?

[lean lion]

Fine as they are

[warped jungle]

One is 4 * and the other is 3 *.

Okay

What do the star level do anyways? Only use I think is to unlock the EX eventually

Star level = Potential

[lean lion]

They give some stat increases but nothing too crazy. Especially for poison stall they're not needed at all.

[warped jungle]

okay

Man I LOVE Poison stall. They all died while I was all my pairs were at max level

Wish I could use it everywhere xD

[mellow linden]

You kinda can when it comes to CS stages

[warped jungle]

Now, need a team for fairy. Been pulling for SSGladeon but still no luck. I'm at 250 pity I think.

For fairy dps I got xerneas, the galar dog that's good at 4/5, Lunala

Which one the best of those?

[mellow linden]

Try a Mina + Granbull team 1st

If that fails you could try off-type

[warped jungle]

She the one that got a nuke build right?

[cinder summit]

Mina & Granbull

Acquisition:

General Pool

Alternates:

Sygna Suit Mina & Tapu Fini

[mellow linden]

That’s her

[warped jungle]

Ah okay. I

She gonna be the main damage dealer?

I got vigilance on her for some reason

[mellow linden]

She would be the main damage-dealer of the team, yes

[warped jungle]

Getting CS2 will be such a pain.

So, what team? And why did you suggest her?

STAB exists?

[mellow linden]

No

[warped jungle]

okay

[mellow linden]

I suggested her because she’s arguably your best Fairy damage-dealer option rn. The team wouldn’t be anything that special, an Attack + crit Support and then an appropriate 3rd team member

If you have Eggmon Sylveon that would be great

[warped jungle]

Probabyly dont have egg sylveon

[mellow linden]

Could do something like Nanu for Defense debuffs + flinch, then

[shell orchid]

Would these teams work for champion stadium hard?

[rotund lagoon]

A lot of your teams have two damage dealers on the same team that don’t even work with the other, or unsure why they’re even there.

For example, Silver and Burgh, not needed on the same team. Pick one or the other and make the team based on their needs.

[shell orchid]

I don't know what to do past the damage dealer + support so I just shove a random unit in there 😭

[rotund lagoon]

You can do a random tech filler, but spread your damage dealers out

Silver also benefits from a sun setter, he doesn’t need a random filler as much.

[shell orchid]

I don't know if I have a sun setter actually

Turns out I did

[rotund lagoon]

Blaine works

[shell orchid]

He's also at level one and I have no exp books
Is there a problem with sserika?

[rotund lagoon]

She’s meant to be a damage dealer, but if she has no need anywhere rn, then I guess she is fine

Make sure you have Lodge expedition cache teams to get manuals

[shell orchid]

I only have one rn, should I do two?

[rotund lagoon]

Is the team at Level 9-10 for caches?

[shell orchid]

Yea

[rotund lagoon]

You can stick to that since I think you’ll need crystals for Lodge anyway

But anyway, go ahead and fix your teams

[shell orchid]

Just sub out the extra damage dealers with techs with matching theme skills or any extra support they need?

[rotund lagoon]

Do not worry about theme skills, just any filler that can benefit the team, or doesn’t hinder gauge.

[mellow linden]

Ideally the 3rd teammate will offer some other form of helpful utility (Defense or Sp. Def. debuffs, damage-boosting field effects, etc.)

[shell orchid]

Ok I think I fixed it
I need to do Dawn and Phoebe evo before I go in but other than that I think it's good

[rotund lagoon]

I hope you don’t mind me asking this now since I forgot: any reason you’re doing Looker over like Roxie and Koga, who are better?

[shell orchid]

i have looker at a higher level
That's it.
Didn't know they were better tho will prob look at the tier list and start investing in units beyond "whatever looks cool" soon

[rotund lagoon]

Maybe tell me how he is for you :0
It’s Hard Mode so I’m not too worried

I just never use him since he relies on being on type, meanwhile both Roxie and Koga just has better damage

[shell orchid]

it was a sweep, but it felt like Will was extremely easy to deal with when compared to Koga

[north crown]

@shell orchid please tell me you know about the type medal

[north crown]

At least for offtype, all he really wants is poison, which he could apply himself. This makes him versatile if you need chip damage rather than the respective defensive debuff.

[shell orchid]

Yea

I tried for as many types as I could

[onyx ice]

Plumeria is a bit underrated

[civic crater]

I’m struggling a bit with Lance this week. Can Nessa handle 3k w/o EX or am I wasting my time

[north crown]

Should be possible. What’s your team?

[north crown]

@civic crater

im bored lol

[civic crater]

I’ve been using Nessa, May, ???

[north crown]

holdup.. what move level is each?

[civic crater]

4/5 and 5/5 I think?

Might have em switched

[mellow linden]

Ideally an Attack + crit Support since I assume Nessa's the main damage-dealer. Do you happen to have a 3/5+ Sonia?

[civic crater]

Unfortunately only 2/5. I was playing with Hilbert but he’s too squishy

[north crown]

Boreas' Roster Bookmark - #poma-questions message

You got Cyrus gridded?

[civic crater]

Yeah I think for the old Villa setup

[north crown]

or u set on using Nessa no matter what?

[civic crater]

No idc I just want to beat 3k without trying to toxic stall because I remember it was difficult to on this stage in the past

[mellow linden]

Yeah, if no 3/5+ Sonia then a Cyrus team might perform a little better

[civic crater]

Who do I nuke with? Cyrus even though that’s an off type?

[north crown]

just grid Cyrus for pure HP DPS, get some kind of crit buffer (spatk and/or speed would be appreciated), deny left side on turn 4, and let it rip.

[north crown]

Hydro Pump:

also about nuking, May:

I see SCJasmine. If she's available, I suggest using her.

unless she dies in >3 turns, tho I doubt that'll happen.

[civic crater]

Ok I’ll try them with SC Jasmine

I’m a little worried gauges may wind up a problem

SC Jasmine just flat out died to first hit lol

[north crown]

Might be a parameter/options issue. Could you send us what you're using?

[civic crater]

Basically all of the damage ones

[north crown]

and that's why you're getting one shot everytime

[civic crater]

No yeah I know why I am I just haven’t been able to pre sync any of em with more than bare minimum HP buffs

[north crown]

The only thing I could mentally do is use this copypasta emote:
If you can't use the options sheet guide for your own benefit, I'd wait for another person who's more patient with newer players.

[civic crater]

That’s reasonable you’ve been a big help anyway ty

[north crown]

For now, you could do 3 things:

1. Check the options pins urself
2. Adjust Sync Grids (if u need help, go to #1009587872342478908 )
3. Pray someone else helps

I need to focus on my own bs now

[civic crater]

I am using the recommended sync grids fwiw I’ll just play around with points to see if I can let Jasmine live w/o dragging out the battle

[mellow linden]

Yeah, adjusting parameters is the main thing you can do to improve your odds of success

[civic crater]

Hopefully I’ll get decent soon so I stop wasting y’all’s time. I’ve played since release but I take lots of breaks because I get burnt out then when I come back I don’t know what’s what anymore

[mellow linden]

It's not wasting anyone's time if we volunteer to help folks out here

( but unironically)

[old orchid]

As long as you are cooperative with volunteer helpers and willing to improve your skill time to time, you are not wasting anyone's time here

[north crown]

tried to volunteer out of boredom, but alas, I got work to do..

[north crown]

COUGH unlike SOME PEOPLE cough

[civic crater]

I decided to just do 14500 and got it first try

lol

[old orchid]

[old orchid]

you shouldnt say that here

[toxic cobalt]

First try? Too easy then

[civic crater]

Yeah after my 50 some odd tries at doing it 3k

[paper summit]

Don't worry, Kalos CS should be next in line

[rotund maple]

Grass CS Hard Mode: Suggestion for teams going forward? Especially what team to save for Serena? Used Deoxys/Redlax/Falkner(Swallow) on Bertha, supposedly the hardest of the 4, so those 3 are locked out now.

Rest of the team currently.

[old orchid]

these team should work fine for Hard mode

[rotund maple]

Even off type should be good? And is Serena the hardest, which should I preferably save for her? Or go with nc silver for the carryability?

[toxic cobalt]

Use Silver round 2

Normal silver

[rotund maple]

Ah right, ty 😊 will do that

[rotund maple]

Does grass cs reset weekly like normal cs?

[old orchid]

nope

[rotund maple]

Oh and may I ask what to watch out for for Serena and what types she use? To plan which team yo save in case the one team I leave is weak to her team 😂

[old orchid]

you can check her moves and passives on pomatools to plan out

the pins have direct link to the Champion Stadium menu

[north crown]

iirc, her main run-ending attack is her Water Shuriken, cuz she keeps her base pair unfortunate strike shenanigans (debuffs)

[rotund maple]

ah ic ic, good to know, ty

[old orchid]

that's not her gimmick

[north crown]

oh lemme check it then

oh bruh is that it?!v spatk drops

tho no quarter WS is still a threat

[rotund maple]

so prep a special defender with physical attacker for serena?

[north crown]

or just run imperv/dauntless

[rotund maple]

^ that will take me a week to get, if not more XD

[north crown]

or burst clear anyways

or multiplt spatk buffers

[rotund maple]

for hard mode, not master mode XD, just trying to figure out which team to save for serena

[old orchid]

Serena's gimmick is aoe spatk debuff, so using physical dmg dealers is recommended

She also has Ramming Speed and Inertia with +1 speed on entry and +3 speed after sync, so either take her down quickly or debuff her speed, or else she destroys your teams

Using a good tank is also advised because she hits hard

[rotund maple]

yea, think swapping out steelix for sycamore/xerneas may help, as i think my NC silver is my strongest normal atk

[north crown]

idk, she just sounds like a joke to me, especially if you use a 5 star Leafeon + Supp EX

[rotund maple]

6 day old XD, and not that rich to get a leafeon ex that quickly :

🤣

[north crown]

oh damn 6 day old acc?

[rotund maple]

yea, but may have more time on this event, if it doesn't reset weekly 🙂

[north crown]

well I did specify supp ex, which you should be aiming for anyways

[rotund maple]

just cant find a reset button that works on that event page, so if I leave the wrong team for serena, I may be softlocked XD

[north crown]

also iirc, actually let me check..

[old orchid]

Steelix is Water weak anyway, you should change asap

[north crown]

nvm you don't get Hop's EX b4 Pasio CS ends

[old orchid]

you have to beat Serena in order to unlock reset feature

[rotund maple]

XD, thats really nice to know

ty

think leaving sycamore, nc silver, and kukui for serena should work?

[north crown]

If you really want to do this purely via trial and error, just go beat the Pasio CS with no points, then build whatever

is Sycamore EXed? if not, I'd argue to use someone else

[old orchid]

that's what they are going to do

[rotund maple]

less than no points, hard mode XD

[old orchid]

Sycamore and Silver both fight for first sync, so you should use anyone else

like Misty for example

[rotund maple]

ooo, kk, does a 3 star misty work well?

ah, had an updated roster just now

[old orchid]

should work okay, but you should raise her to at least 4* sometime

[rotund maple]

kk, will try with misty at lv 120, 4* may come in about a month or so, when I saved enough for my first pity

as I still haven't found a good source of 3* level up tickets

ty

[old orchid]

dont forget to exchange for in event shops

[north crown]

DibGRUNTled Roster Bookmark

[rotund maple]

yup, thats the updated one XD

[north crown]

Is Kiawe needed on the Silver team?

[rotund maple]

I think I use him for atk booster and potion, but not that effective in itself XD

so can always boot him if a better replacement is suggested 🙂

[old orchid]

are you clicking Solar Beam?

[north crown]

they should be

[rotund maple]

will be using solar beam yes, but probably will have to wait after first sync for the sun

[old orchid]

then switching Kiawe for a spatk + crit support

Torchic is a nice option because of Fire theme skill

[north crown]

And you got Gordie to set sun b4 Silver syncs to throw in more SBs

[old orchid]

Silver appreciates any source of increasing his base offensive stats

[rotund maple]

I dont think I have torchic

[north crown]

story mode:

[rotund maple]

ooo, gordie is a sun setter? will do

[north crown]

via max flare, yes

make sure to set his move as the first in the action queue so you can quadqueue, making 2 syncs presync possible.

[old orchid]

it's hard mode, no need to think too much about it

[rotund maple]

kk

[old orchid]

just avoid using Silver on Lorelei or Grimsley

[rotund maple]

ah, good to know, so locked to bruno then

[north crown]

weren't they gonna try for MM afterwards? Just a heads up for Max moves.

[rotund maple]

^ no

500 gems and im out of this event XD

might do a round or 2, but definitely cant finish MM with my current roster

[north crown]

you should at least try for an avergae of 850/clear. It's not that big of a difficulty jump.

if you can finish type medal in 2 weeks, u can def do 4.2k

[rotund maple]

relying on ss steven and nc silver for alot of hard carries XD, but yea, will try it for sure

ty

[north crown]

Might need to learn to cheese with sleep since you don't got much resources but alas

[rotund maple]

hmm, is agatha the only sleeper?

might not even have the resource to sleep XD

[north crown]

hm... I wonder who's the most cost efficient sleep unit

[rotund maple]

do have drasna for poison stall before tho, not that effective, janine is still a bit behind on the levels

can move that up in the team if it is recommended 🙂

[rotund lagoon]

[old orchid]

850 pts doesnt have much difference to hard mode, read this: #1009554906568462476 message

[north crown]

ok yeah it's no contest for Ramos; just double checked.

[rotund maple]

ooo, good to know

ty

[old orchid]

so if your above teams worked for hard mode, they can do the same to 850 MM

for Silver specifically, i dont think Gordie is necessary

[north crown]

holdup, I take it back. They both take the same amount of energy :cyrusss

[old orchid]

Torchic is not a good tank so both it and Silver appreciate Skyla's recovery

[north crown]

in that case, Agatha is actually the better pick

[north crown]

u not gonna attempt to use Gordie for early Solar Beams? ik it's HM but

[old orchid]

no

[rotund maple]

ah kk, will move skyla to main tank, then toss in torchic, then swap sycamore for steelix?

[rotund lagoon]

Still, not sure we should worry so much about sleep chaining if that wasn’t used for Hard Mode

[old orchid]

Steelix on Champion round? it's a bad idea

Serena mainly uses special moves, and Steelix is weak to Water

[rotund maple]

sycamore into champions

along with nc silver and kukui?

[old orchid]

with NC Silver? i told you earlier that he is not a good pick

[rotund maple]

steelix will probably go after that dark type, i think that is a physical attacker right?

ooo, nc silver is not good too?

[old orchid]

Grimsley? check his info on pomatools to see why i dont recommend Steelix on him either

[old orchid]

no, both fight for first sync

i think i recommended Misty for nothing

[rotund maple]

oh right, sorry

[wheat grove]

Hello 👀

[rotund maple]

ah yea

[north crown]

We suggested them to try MM after, and sleep chain is the most cost efficient method to better early game teams.

[rotund maple]

so many good suggestions, XD, need to start sorting it out a bit XD

[old orchid]

i dont think there is a "we" here

[north crown]

but it's straight facts

they're the only reason I was able to do some CSMM 7.5k clears early game

[rotund lagoon]

Nitsua, your suggestion might be too confusing for them rn.

[old orchid]

im not denying the sleeper part tho

[north crown]

fair point

best to learn it via LA anyways

[north crown]

hi? u want help for CS Hard Mode?

oh yeah there's 2 of them running... which one?

[rotund maple]

So to summarize,
Champion Misty/ NC Silver/ Kukui,
Bruno Skyla/Silver/Torchic or Gordie
Grimsly Sycamore/Palkia/Dialga?
Lorelei Shauna/Giovanni/Sabrina?

[rotund lagoon]

…where did Champion Misty come from?

Who are you referring to?

[rotund maple]

for the champion fight, to use misty XD

[north crown]

+reading

[frozen depot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855438548684374045/1069103333429747752/image-2.png

[rotund lagoon]

Nitsua, not now.

[rotund lagoon]

Ah, the lack of formatting threw me off

[grand trout]

I forgot silver has solarbeam

[rotund maple]

sorry Annie XD

[grand trout]

Haven't clicked that move on him for years

[north crown]

Silver's SB is actually goated, esp if you grid all the dmg multipliers for him

[rotund lagoon]

These seem fine, go ahead and try them out!

[rotund maple]

will do 🙂 ty

and ty for everyone's help 🙂

[north crown]

don't use Gordie if u need Skyla to live.

[old orchid]

Silver doesnt have offensive buffs without PB, so Torchic is a must

[north crown]

And Torchic doesn’t have the greatest bulk, therefore Skyla is basically a must

[old orchid]

well they said Torchic or Gordie, that implies that Skyla is the tank

[rotund maple]

😊

Ty, barely got thru bruno, went with gordie in the attempt since it was already in the box. Had to switch skyla for kiawe in the end since skyla was getting super effectived by bruno.

[grand trout]

Are enemies more predisposed to favor a certain attack over others?

I found that sometimes they'll use the same attack several tines in a row

[north crown]

Can I copy someone's teams for the Pasio CS? I really don't want any more of my brain cells to rot

[grand trout]

Like if you reset they'll use it again and again esp if it kills your allies

[grand trout]

Got you babe, hold on

[old orchid]

Nope, its all down to rng

[onyx ice]

Generally the move just before 1st sync and just after 1st sync are scripted and after the mid goes down I think the sides always use the same move (generally aoe or a really strong single target move)

Turn order is also predictable

[old orchid]

Other than scripted action, the rest is random

[onyx ice]

Yes when not scripted is random

We don't have "smart ai" that tries to use super effective moves when available

[vast dome]

So I have exactly two good Grass strikers

Off-typing the other three!

[nocturne pawn]

ss erika can definitely kill a stage

tsareena with good support can also do one pretty easily

also ss leaf with good support can definitely do things

[old orchid]

You are unfairly underestimating your Grass dmg dealers

[nocturne pawn]

yeah i literally just listed out the rest of them

[old orchid]

They are even ontype so it shouldn't be hard to clear even without EX

[nocturne pawn]

selene is lowkey kinda shit tbch

3k cs she was doing checks notes 2k with leaf blade and 6k with sync

[old orchid]

Sounds like skill issue

[nocturne pawn]

maybe

[old orchid]

She is outclassed by a lot of pairs, but she is not that bad

[nocturne pawn]

yeah im not sure

maybe it was too much str but i usually run with str12

so kinda surprised

[old orchid]

I can see the problem

[nocturne pawn]

yeah she cant handle high str too well i suppose

sucks but thats what i usually run for cs now

[vast dome]

SS Erika at 3 and SS Leaf at 4

Off-typing one of the lesser stages

[old orchid]

I dont see any issue with SS Erika. She destroys ontype at 1/5 already

SS Leaf's performance is not appealing without Power Play nowadays but you can still make her workable

[dark osprey]

Ss Erika, Brendan, ss leaf, gardenia plus Silver, the Sycamores together and offensive dawn seem like decent options

[tulip python]

What’s a good set for a 3k off type parameter for NC stadium? My normal on types may not be cutting it

[nocturne pawn]

the same as regular cs?

[rotund lagoon]

It’s heavily team reliant, just start with a 2.5k and go from there.

[nocturne pawn]

the only remotely difficult stages are serena and bertha

[latent eagle]

YOURE A REPEAT EVENT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE HALL OF FAME

[mellow linden]

Iirc the Hall of Fame said it wouldn’t carry over between runs the first time around

[latent eagle]

there goes my strat of just re-using the sync pairs I used last time (which I don't even remember)

[latent eagle]

[flint verge]

for the grass cs do you need grass types or is it possible to offtype it at all?

[mellow linden]

Depends on your roster and the point value you're going for, but generally speaking you can off-type

[flint verge]

trying to do 2.5k but idk if my units can offtype but maybe ill just experiement with on type

[north crown]

@flint verge Perhaps you could send your roster if you’re still stuck.

[tulip python]

See that’s what I wanted to do hahah

[latent eagle]

🤝🤝🤝

[toxic cobalt]

Hello everyone! We've had a lot of questions about the 🌴Grass Special Pasio Stadium🌴. I would encourage you, even if new, to give it a go! It is possible with limited rosters, for an example clear see: #1011675077764456519 message

Remember, you can always try on lower points and work up if you want. The parameter advice is the same as in normal CSMM. Keep in mind that even the lower initial star pairs are good, some pairs have grass attacks despite being another type (eg. Silver), some supports can do some decent damage (eg. Dawn), there are ways to off-type if you still feel stuck, and you can even stall if needed! Feel free to ask for advice on your test teams!

[tulip python]

I love the fact that the copy teams feature is back haha

Off typed the entire thing

Except for Serena

Which I promptly wrecked with Monke, Celebi, and Godcerola

Celebi is ridiculous and I’ll never not love it.

[rotund maple]

Owow, ty for the Xerneas against Lorelei strat, can't believe it can solo lorelei, altho took like 15 min of fighting XD

Whew, ty auroch and everyone else, 1 more hard mode cleared 😂

[silver dirge]

Non EX sycamore can still solo 3k?

[swift swan]

You're doubting Sycagoat? Smh

[old orchid]

which Sycagoat?

[silver dirge]

I haven't used the deer in ages

[paper summit]

same ngl

[main crow]

Smh you call yourself a gen6 stan /hj

[hazy tusk]

Arch de Triomphe

[swift swan]

Blasphemy!

[sick inlet]

The plugging

[toxic cobalt]

This is plug by committee

[north crown]

I need what team are smokin’ fr

[grand trout]

Koga has pseudo wisex right?

[old orchid]

Flying Koga has Wise Entry x2 on mid, and Sentry Entry x2 on sides

also dont write abbreviation like that

[lean lion]

The stage coming tomorrow? PoMa tools only mentions Swag Bag 5

[silver dirge]

It's Wise Entry x2 at home

Look at his stats, spDef is doubled

78->156

[undone ether]

yeet.

[old orchid]

Older CS before Sinnoh era don't show us Entry x2 passive

Thats why we have Flying weak Koga and Electric weak Acerola having 1.5x spdef

[silver dirge]

Dark weak Caitlin too iirc

[undone ether]

hopefully my team for Koga tomorrow can presync punch Koga before he starts blasting away

otherwise Penny + Blue + Lodge Skyla :x

[lean lion]

Oh good to know. Was about to start planning teams.

[sick inlet]

Koga? Flying weak? Will i test lodge skyla too

[undone ether]

ye

[sick inlet]

Duo Lodge Skyla incoming

[grand trout]

Ugh, so i have to bring two dps

Man

[lean lion]

Blue + Kahili destruction

[grand trout]

I have nylance

I'll try bp falkner...

He's special right

[old orchid]

BP Falkner is special yes

With good ontype dmg dealer its not an issue tho

[left storm]

Not really

Sides hp is doodoo

LSkyla will destroy him

[manic kiln]

can't wait to try 3 skyla team
I know we had Holiday skyla but now we can do all skyla team with every role

[undone ether]

Anni Skyla + Lodge Skyla + Base Skyla ;o

Holiday Skyla is kinda...

[swift swan]

anni skyla is a myth

[undone ether]

i mean she does do a lotta damage

i'd rather run her with people that can inflict status conditions + Elaine

[sick inlet]

oh no i am getting ideas

[silver dirge]

Damn Koga is single handedly giving Johto some sort of a difficulty representation huh

[undone ether]

hmm actually yeah. i can do Elaine + Zapdos + my 2/5 Holiday Skyla heh

[swift swan]

everybody say thank you Koga

[old orchid]

I think you mean fuck you Koga

[sick inlet]

Based on the game you're playing, that's the same thing-

[lean lion]

Yeah i dont think Blue Kahili are gonna cut it against Koga gonna have to offtype

[mellow linden]

Depending on how close you have Skyla to friendship 100 in Lodge you could wait to do CS until you get her there

Lodge Skyla is very strong and should be able to handle Flying weak Koga no problem

[nocturne pawn]

Skyla is ridiculous

strike with built in sync multiplier and brave bird with no recoil

[weak sleet]

This is what I used last grass cup can I use these again? I have no clue why I used poison stall. Also wouldn't using Adaman and tapu bulu be more effective against Serena?

Also is doing 3k per battle necessary or is there a good cutoff for rewards?

[undone ether]

U dont have to unless u want them higher stuff

14.5k should be great for 5star power up tickets

[flint aurora]

just 12.5k is enough if you don't want the hassle too

[weak sleet]

Seems easy enough

Can Adaman handle Serena?

[undone ether]

14.5k is 2.9k per battle

Uhh u have erika, meganium and ss lyra

With infinite field effects u can just stun nc serena until she dies

[weak sleet]

Yeah from last year, this was before Adaman was released.

Oh that's easy enough

[undone ether]

Adaman would be better elsewhere tbh

[weak sleet]

Is bulu better than meganium?

[undone ether]

Of course o.o

[weak sleet]

Okay so I'll beat Serena with the same team as last time, just add bulu

And what about the others?

I'm confused why I used poison last time....must have been boosted?

[undone ether]

Hmm i think your serena.team.last.time should be fine

Youre esse toally.delaying your opponent

[weak sleet]

Yeah flinching from celebi means she never really gets to do anything

So no sync

Well very delayed

[undone ether]

You sync but with ss erika

(after meganiums)

Meganium has light screen so it should stop serena's attacks

Or lessen the damage

Cuz she hits.hard when she syncs

If she gets some +1 or 2 speed, shell decimate your team.

So control the battle with ss lyra

[weak sleet]

Seems easy enough to do

The others I should be able to off type?

[swift swan]

Sure

[weak sleet]

There we go and I got 14,500 points

[warped jungle]

What team do I use for master mode rock?

[mellow linden]

Can try Paulo + Bertha + appropriate Support first and see how that works out

[warped jungle]

Oh I still need a support? I was thinking of Paulo, Bertha, dps

My dumbass thought Bertha was support 💀

[mellow linden]

You can try that if you want. Bertha can act as a tank if need be

If that’s the case then Olivia for the 3rd, make sure she’s gridded for Sand Blaster, Inertia, and Stone Edge Amped Up

[warped jungle]

She tanky enough for 2500 points?

[warped jungle]

She get that stuff at 2/5?

[mellow linden]

Yeah

Alternatively you could get Roark to 4-star potential and fully grid him so he doesn’t kill himself upon 1st Head Smash

[warped jungle]

If I use a support in this team, who gonna be the damage dealer?

[wide adder]

The pseudo wise entry of koga shouldn’t be an issue for Ethan Lugia at 3/5 right? I don’t have a flying zone. I could bring 1/5 gloralt if flying rebuff is needed though.

I tend to use max strength and a bit of hp (40-80% range)

[mellow linden]

Paulo would act as the damage-dealer if you did him + Bertha + Support, you could also run Olivia + Bertha + Support instead if you want

[warped jungle]

Okay. What does Paulo do? From what I read, first turn sync?

And sandstorm protection

[mellow linden]

Damage and faster Sync Moves are the main things. He also has some utility options as well

[mellow linden]

Could potentially be a bit rough with that level of bulk if no Zone or Rebuff, but you can always try him on his own first and adjust as needed

[warped jungle]

I just realised he got Max moves too.

[wide adder]

Paulo can also tank especially with Rolex.

[warped jungle]

What's Rolex?

They adding luxury watches ingame now?

[mellow linden]

EX Role, the Roll Cake stuff

[warped jungle]

Ohhh okay.

[mellow linden]

Paulo’s is Support, which gives him a bit of a bulk increase and adds the Support EX effect to his Sync (but he needs to be EX first to get that effect)

[warped jungle]

Max move can only be used once? So, one sandstorm?

[mellow linden]

Yeah. Iirc Paulo extends the Sandstorm and you have Bertha to set it as well, though

[warped jungle]

Yeah, that was before I realised Paulo can do that too. I never realised he got a max move.

What does a sprint EX do?

[mellow linden]

-3 Sync countdown after their 1st Sync Move

+exeffect for the full list, real quick

[frozen depot]

Each Sync Move adds a Sync Buff () to your Team, one is a 50% Damage Boost for the Team. When EXing a Sync Pair, you unlock a role specific Powerboost:

• Striker EX: Their Sync Move now hits all targets and has no AoE damage penalty.
• Tech EX: Their Sync Move Base Power gets boosted by 1.5x.
• Support EX: Their first Sync Move gives your Team an additional buff (100% damage increase in total).
• Field EX: Their first Sync Move applies a field before the sync executes, and extends its duration.
• Sprint EX: Their first Sync Move reduces the sync countdown by 3 after the sync is executed.

[warped jungle]

Okay. Interesting.

So once you get the role cake, you gotta ex them both seperately?

[mellow linden]

Roll Cake’s effect will just automatically unlock once the pair is EXd normally if you use a Roll Cake before EX

[warped jungle]

Okay

And once I EX the unit, I'll have the EX effect of both the types?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, both the EX effects

[warped jungle]

Isn't that a really big spike in damage/potential of the units?

[mellow linden]

It varies from Sync Pair to Sync Pair

[warped jungle]

Strike + tech gonna go hard

Well, off to do the CS thingy.

What debuff pre set do you suggest I use for the above team?

[mellow linden]

Generally up to your needs/preferences, though since you’re using Paulo the on-type Pre-Sync is probably slightly better to run

[warped jungle]

Okay.

[rotund maple]

May I ask what setup is for the 850 points per stage mentioned earlier?

[mellow linden]

It’s in the Pinned Messages, iirc the 1st link in the top pinned message

[rotund maple]

oh its in the tabs underneath

was wondering why it was only showing 2500 per stage XD

[mellow linden]

Sorry, 1st link in the 2nd pinned message

[rotund maple]

ty

[warped jungle]

Hey, I can't clear the rock stage... I do baby damage

[north crown]

Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[warped jungle]

Master mode

[north crown]

well first of all, there's no external buffing done for Olivia. She's not going too do as much, as she wants max crit, attack, and speed for maximum DPS

[warped jungle]

I used the on type pre sync pre set

[warped jungle]

Not having 3/5 hurts too

[nocturne pawn]

not really

all she loses are some sand multipliers

[north crown]

not really. I've heard that she gets her main nuke nodes at 2/5 so

[nocturne pawn]

she already gets inertia and amped up 2 on stone edge

[warped jungle]

But she doesnt get the sync tiles?

[nocturne pawn]

its not a big loss

[warped jungle]

Ah okay, those sand sync buff

[nocturne pawn]

also if shes not 3/5 then theres no reason to run bertha

[warped jungle]

Why tho?

She does get the sand sync buff at 2/5

[nocturne pawn]

she gains nothing from having sand

[nocturne pawn]

u sure

[warped jungle]

let me double check

[nocturne pawn]

wait yeah you’re right

[warped jungle]

Yeah, she gets sand blaster

[nocturne pawn]

its been a while since ive used her admittedly

[north crown]

you guys

idk much of Paulo's kit. What does he do for the team?

[warped jungle]

idk tbh

[north crown]

you gotta be kidding me

[warped jungle]

Longer sandstorms

[tulip python]

Ooh, EZ Mode. Except flying

[warped jungle]

And faster sync

buffs too

This not good??

[warped jungle]

Buddy move gives +4 speed, atk, def, spdef

and phy move up next

I thought it'll make them hit harder

[north crown]

He does indeed help buff Olivia via BMove, but it's only after his sync

[north crown]

one time damage boost on regular moves

[warped jungle]

The sync cd charges up fast tho. Not worth it?

[north crown]

ig it's fine, since you need the first 3 turns to buff Olivia anyways

just worried there's not enough DPS to presync

cuz there's no shot you're doing post

[warped jungle]

Yeah I did very little damage

[mellow linden]

Is Physical Damage Reduction 8 turned on?

[warped jungle]

Let me check

Oh shit, it is turned on!

NO wonder I did 800 dmg

[north crown]

you gotta be fucking kidding me rn

[mellow linden]

Yeah, just swap it to Special Damage Reduction 8 and you should at the very least have a higher chance of success

[warped jungle]

Yeah let me try it again

[north crown]

make sure to max Olivia's stats as much as possible before the team's 2nd sync.

[warped jungle]

okay

Crit goes thru def and sp def buffs yeah?

[mellow linden]

Yes

Crits also go through the 50-point Physical Damage Reduction and 50-point Special Damage Reduction parameters since those just set Reflect and Light Screen

[warped jungle]

It goes thru this too?

[mellow linden]

No

That’s a base stat increase

[warped jungle]

Okay

Who tanks in the above team? Old Lady gets two shot killed

[mellow linden]

Bertha would generally be the tank in such a team, but if the damage being thrown out by the opponent is too high you can try switching Olivia or Paulo with an Attack + crit Support

Or just adjust the parameters to be a bit less damage output

[warped jungle]

okay.

[tired sleet]

Do you have PB Zinnia?

Dragon Ascent targets the mid’s lower Physical Defence and her sync can chip down sides

It’s just awkward since you don’t want Offtype DR or either Phys/Spec DR

[nova oasis]

What does Vivid Water Shuriken on the Neo Champion opponent here do, exactly? I couldn't see the description on PoMaTools due to the scrolling not quite going far enough...

[rich needle]

wut

are you asking what the tech nuke is

cuz its debuffs

[old orchid]

The move effect is the same as playable NC Serena's

[nova oasis]

Thanks for the confirmation.

[gritty nymph]

koga has crit def wat

[trail smelt]

Yep part of why he’s so annoying

[main crow]

Koga hard carries Johto CS

Banger theme and most memorable gimmick

[swift swan]

updated

[silver dirge]

Half sync

[swift swan]

half sync on psychic weak my beloved

my ss lusamine's hungry for the cake

[undone ether]

Half Sync lets goooo

[toxic cobalt]

What a mixed week

[old orchid]

SS Dawn goes zoom

[woeful wolf]

Im struggling with Karen big time
No matter the parameters or team combinations she just kills and i wanna save my electric team for Lance. Sadly can't provide screenshots rn due to my ipad charging

[magic kayak]

Ok so these three are the last types I need to complete the hall of fame any suggestions on who would be good to use in each type? I don't ever use these types

[full mesa]

Bea and Riley are wonderful attackers for Fighting.
Aaron is an awesome tank and physical buffer.
If you have a good combination for a stage you can throw in the horse just for the type.

[swift swan]

what team are you ussing?

[magic kayak]

Thanks a lot I'll try it out

[woeful wolf]

Many different ones. Nothing really works. I been trying with OG Lillie OG Burgh and SS Morty

[swift swan]

That's a pretty good staple. What's your grid for Burgh?

[hidden monolith]

Stuck on 3k pts R4 Karen, probably have to run off-type but I can't make a team that can work

Some of my options have been used

And SS Acerola + Adaman are reserved for Lance

[swift swan]

hmm, no burgh?

there's also Bugsy + Noland + Hop, which is a common f2p bug team

[hidden monolith]

I do have Burgh but prob 1/5

[magic kayak]

Is burgh really that good for such a stage? I was debating putting Aaron on cause tank and atk boost

I'm guessing he would need 3/5 mostly tho but hey if he doesn't I might try em out

[swift swan]

looks like you can try bugsy and noland, then

[hidden monolith]

Alright

Bugsy is still 3* tho

[swift swan]

yeah preferably 3/5 for nuke

[magic kayak]

ahh dang I'll just stick with Aaron and off type the DPS then

no real problem tho idk how hard this e4 is yet for my units

the horse will prob be the most difficult one to implement

cause they'll basically be dead weight on any team I make

[formal vigil]

Could try cerena cyrus and leaf (evee) for off type

[swift swan]

still worth a try

[magic kayak]

Should I make horse 5* or would they still work at 3* or 4*

[swift swan]

Hapu? if she's too much of a deadweight, you can use Bertha for ground coverage instead. she's a decent tank

[magic kayak]

What does she do actually?

[swift swan]

Bertha's a great nuker at higher move levels but she has good utility with defensive and crit buffs for the whole team

[magic kayak]

Hm I do have her 3/5 would that work for her nuke or would it just be worse than me just using hapu?

Hold on lemme see what hapu does

[swift swan]

there's no ground stage this week. if you have ontype damage dealers, I'd use those over offtype Bertha nuke. i'm just saying that if you need a ground type filler, bertha's better

[magic kayak]

Yeah it's just for hall of fame

dark stage Marnie can prob solo it honestly so I might just plop someone there

unless it's like insanely difficult then it'll be a struggle lmao

for bug ig it's between bugsey and Aaron and I just off type it

[dense birch]

hello, is there a best round parameter suggestion for the current johto CSMM? seems like R2 is avoid Will/Koga, but i'm not quite sure how to approach it. thinking of doing as follows:

Will: either EX Karen/Houndoom (spe), or NC Serena (phy)
Koga: Blue/Pidgeot (might EX), Gloria (Alt2) for Flying rebuff
Bruno: SS Steven or Caitlin (same result either way, Spe)
Karen: Noland/Bugsy (Phy)
Lance: SST Red (Phy)

maybe Karen R1 (since Noland can Flinch), Bruno R2 (Bruno uses 0 spatk), Will R3 (using NC Serena), and Koga R4 (idk if Blue/Pidgeot EX sync can kill in 1 go)?

[swift swan]

bruno is the best R2 option considering he has no special moves and most psychic types are special

but R4 is what you really should be worried about

[dense birch]

yeah. i think the above is fine then? i'm only worried about R4

[swift swan]

I don't think Blue's first sync can oneshot Koga

Koga has higher special defense too

[dense birch]

oh...

i got 3/5 Darach for physical flying, but he's tech. no EX though

[swift swan]

SS Steven on the other hand I think can kill Bruno presync, even at R4

[dense birch]

most likely. especially with NC Rosa support

[silver dirge]

They don't stand a chance

[swift swan]

then Bruno R4

[dense birch]

i'm now actually wondering if i can do NC Rosa stacking SMUN on Blue/Pidgeot until EX sync

[swift swan]

the second safest choice for R2 then would be Karen considering you can reset to avoid dark pulse spam

[dense birch]

can run either Lenora or Lucian for Sp Def down AoE

or...

PStall Koga R1
Karen R2
Will R3
Bruno R4

[swift swan]

you don't need to stall Koga. there's darach like you said, and the new Lodge Skyla

[dense birch]

yeah. maybe i'm too hung up on the round param being status up

[magic kayak]

Whoa ok after reading Aaron's kit he seems really good since he can boost ally defense as well as attack seems like a good option for bug so I'ma go with that. Thanks for the help

[silver dirge]

Aaron is indeed a great support but just keep in mind support typing only ever matters in HSE

[magic kayak]

Would bugsey and Noland be a better set up for the bug type weak one then?

Was thinking about just off typing it with bugsey as the bug type for my hall of fame

[undone ether]

jeez

i completely forgot i turned off the WTZ option

and was wondering where my Volt tackle spam was

then managed to nuke Lance from 99% to 0 .-.

[silver dirge]

Don't off type with Bugsy as the damage dealer, but you can have a strong offtype pair and just put in some filler types for the medal

[manic kiln]

Lodge skylar is such a cheat code for f2p players she deleted koga in half sync round

[versed meteor]

Damn am late

Slap any defence buffer with accuracy buff, ex paulo and you have a stupid strong team

[hushed sorrel]

holy smokes this Koga is like harder than everyone else

[swift swan]

Bruno's precision pals ruins quadqueue wow this is shit

[lean lion]

Johto CS is fun

[swift swan]

nvm it doesn't, it's me and my silly theme clears

[versed meteor]

I think this is the koga that has a stealth wise entry

[versed meteor]

Rip lance i guess

[rich needle]

Wut

[versed meteor]

Yeh someone once said that he has an unusually high sp defence

[silver dirge]

It's literally wise entry x2 on the mid

[versed meteor]

About 1.5x normal amount

[silver dirge]

Just not a named passive

It's x2

[rich needle]

Cring

[silver dirge]

Sides have SEx2

[versed meteor]

I wonder how difficult this koga must have been back in the day

[manic kiln]

not that hard, gen pool units like blue, darach... can do 2.5k just fine

[lean lion]

The current R1 param affects flinch chance right?

[swift swan]

Nope

It affects duration

More dmg taken from burn, poison, trap, more duration for sleep, freeze, flinch, more chances to fail for confusion and paralysis

If you want a round param that raises chances of flinches to trigger, it would be "additional effects of moves are more likely to occur"

[grand trout]

Lol fuck koga still

[pure haven]

Half sync r4 cringe

[manic kiln]

Koga
Halfsync

[grand trout]

Interesting, why colress?

[dense birch]

Managed to get 13.5k for Johto CS this week. Any more might be too stressful haha. Thanks for the advice regarding rounds

Colress -2def aoe i suppose

[silver dirge]

Defense debuffs

[manic kiln]

you don't have to use him but without debuff you can't 1 shot

it's just an accessible team, skyla + buffer + utility (zone/debuff, rebuff...)

[grand trout]

Yeah ik he can debuff, it's more like

Colress is that tanky? Interesting

Because falkner i know for sure can't soak up hits

[manic kiln]

he's not the tank tho, but he can take 2 earthquake/bulldoze

[grand trout]

Did you also use TW?

[manic kiln]

falkner just need to click each TM 1, he can die after that

twitter?

[grand trout]

Thunder wave

[manic kiln]

nope

just screech 3 times

also delay skyla sync a bit

[grand trout]

Wait is this 3k

Because i spent an hour making skylodge, anniskyla, and falkner work

[manic kiln]

yes it was 3k

with zone it should be even easier, don't even need debuff

[grand trout]

Anniskyla dies with one bulldoze tho

So i really have to proc flinches

[lean lion]

Lodge Skyla nukes the stage without supp ex?

[manic kiln]

Yes

[lean lion]

50 levels away

I can't wait to wreck Koga

[sick inlet]

Lodge unit doing this kind of damage is kinda funny

[lean lion]

[sick inlet]

To put things into perspective
This is my rat nuke with 3 sync buffs

[hidden monolith]

Haymaker at base

Goes wild

[rain turret]

this week's stadium was very easy to get 15k
only took me 15mins

[manic kiln]

It’s johto

[silver dirge]

easy CS regions revamp when

[manic kiln]

give us paldea first

[nocturne pawn]

everyone gets Sentry entry x3

and then flying weak koga gets wise entry x2

[silver dirge]

Imagine a stage with crit shield, look alive, toughen up 9, tighten up 9, and it starts with 26k HP

oh wait

[nocturne pawn]

wait it starts with 26k?

lol

[silver dirge]

yes

[lean lion]

Which stage Fire Koga?

[silver dirge]

All that's left is an entry gimmick

[nocturne pawn]

no wonder it felt like ny wallace was inadequate

[undone ether]

my half sync was Bruno :o~

[sick inlet]

Yes

[mellow linden]

Lodge Skyla is very fun to use

Koga didn’t know what hit him this week

[trail smelt]

I disrespected Johto so much I took half sync into Lance and killed him and Bruno before they can sync lol

[mild hatch]

What are good F2P options for grass stadium?

[silver dirge]

There's a pinned message with a lil summary

And a link to Aurochs' clears

[mild hatch]

Oh, neato!

[undone ether]

i didnt get to use her ;_;
She was max70 too.

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week

[main crow]

Omg flying koga with labeled WEx2 now

But he still has his stealth WEx2

[latent eagle]

[undone ether]

almost D:

[old orchid]

Replace Lillie with Janine and you will see the miracle

[latent eagle]

I’m doing the poison stall strat so I use Lillie to wrap well Lucy poisons so I don’t have to use use wrap w/ Lucy

[mellow linden]

I mean, you only need to Poison Fang each opponent once, so I'd personally rather have the more reliable Sp. Atk. debuffs from Janine than the slightly faster Trap application from Lodge Lillie

[silver dirge]

Where's the stage with both WE & SE x3 so you must poison stall it

[warped jungle]

I got CMarnie so I can probably go higher than 2500 points yeaH? I cleared the stage before the opponent can sync

[undone ether]

i managed to crack Koga's WEx2 with Blue with SEUN, Max Sync Power Flux and

[old orchid]

Yes, ofc

[undone ether]

17k in mid. not bad i suppose. Hurricane with SEUN is around 10k? with Flying Zone still active

[warped jungle]

Wtf hit that hard!?

Tornadus?

[undone ether]

Anni Skyla 1/5

she's just there to flinch fishing and Flying Zone

[warped jungle]

damn

[mellow linden]

Flying Zone, Supereffective Up, Flying Rebuff, and it’s 2nd Sync, even Blue’s Sync against Flying weak Koga can hit reasonably hard

[undone ether]

2nd sync? wut?

I synced only once 😮

[mellow linden]

Oh, is that a half-Sync round?

[undone ether]

ye

wait no

my half sync was for Bruno

this one was uh Special Damage Up

[mellow linden]

Then how is Koga at 1 Sync CD when you Sync for the first time

[undone ether]

Round 2 iirc

i stacked him some -1 or -2 sync countdown

[warped jungle]

Blue 3/5 or SSEthan 1/5? Who gonna be better?

[mellow linden]

Word of advice: those parameters are generally worse options than most others

[silver dirge]

3/5 Blue outscales 1/5 Ethan iirc

[undone ether]

funny enough

[warped jungle]

okay

[silver dirge]

Both will do fine though

[undone ether]

he tried to Silver Wind

he got rolled over by Confusion xD

[warped jungle]

So I use both in same team?

[silver dirge]

No I mean either/or

[warped jungle]

Ohh okay

[silver dirge]

Lodge Skyla would be the best & easiest option if you've got her yet?

[undone ether]

so i basically didnt get any damages

[warped jungle]

Dont have lodge skyla

I think the only lodge units I got is blue

[undone ether]

my comp should still work with uh Lodge Skyla too

considering SC Steven can stack them PMUNs :>

[warped jungle]

You're supposed to use 2 support 1 dps?

[silver dirge]

Not really

Teambuilding is flexible in that regard, depends on what you're able to accommodate

[warped jungle]

I was unable to complete the rock type CS yesterday. Shit was too hard

[silver dirge]

From my standpoint if a support is contributing nothing extra to the team and you've already got a tank - why is it there? But if it's helping set up multipliers, or enabling somehow then that's fine

[warped jungle]

I also pulled SSGladeon today, gonna help with any stage? Off-type maybe?

[flint verge]

For the special cs is it possible to off type with trying to get higher points with Master mode? I've tried a bit but I don't get anywhere :[. I don't have to many grass types

[old orchid]

He is a great offtype dmg dealer, regardless of move level

[old orchid]

People been offtyping on special CS. Feel free to send your roster here so we can help with planning stuff

[flint verge]

I see. I'll send them in a few mins then

[cinder summit]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[proud axle]

Wrong channel

Meant to go to the bot channel and missed

[hidden monolith]

You were close tho

[proud axle]

Sorry

[violet timber]

so apparently this team (without SpA buff) allowed me to one tap Lance with one thunder post support sync at 2.5k point

And it's not even the b move

[proud axle]

Delightfully overpowered rodents

[paper summit]

aka, this is nothing new

[undone ether]

Yeah u can get to 3k with them 3 xD

[violet timber]

they gotta stop making pikachus overpowered

[lean lion]

Red can solo 3k

[swift swan]

hmm yeah that's the right nuke grid

but I would get a more reliable sp def debuffer for Burgh's smarty pants

[sick inlet]

Ash can solo too

[latent eagle]

It had survived on like a sliver of HP and then I didn’t heal in time

[noble plaza]

Should I round 2 Koga with Blue and Pidgeot?

[mellow linden]

I assume this is Master Mode?

[noble plaza]

That's rough buddy

[noble plaza]

Yep

3k

Hopefully

[mellow linden]

Could you show your Flying roster then? Flying weak Koga basically has “Wise Entry x2 before it was cool”, so while Blue can probably work with the right team, if you have a suitable physical Flying option they’d be better

[mellow linden]

Could run dual damage-dealer with a Brave Bird grid Darach + either Lodge Serena or Kahili

[noble plaza]

Darach can do damage?

[mellow linden]

Heck, might be able to do just Darach if you need to run solo damage-dealer

[mellow linden]

Yeah. Brave Bird is a strong move (just has recoil, which can be mitigated by his grid) and he has an absurdly strong Sync nuke if you run him for that

[noble plaza]

[nocturne pawn]

its hard to run both tho

its really one or the other with him imo

[paper summit]

when Lodge Skyla exist I can't recommend Darach ever again ngl, granted there is the time constraint of getting her to lvl 100

[noble plaza]

I'm only level 45 with her (without today's interactions)

[mellow linden]

That’s why I’m recommending Darach + Sync nuker, idk if they’d be able to get and build Lodge Skyla in time

[nocturne pawn]

you still got 6 days

with average luck you should get her before the end of it

but yeah skyla is just darach but better imo for cs especially

[mellow linden]

Up to you in the end whether you wait or not

You have options either way

[noble plaza]

Hmmm.

I can give Darach + Serena a go

That was an accident lmao

[mellow linden]

I’ve done that once before, I understand lol

[lean lion]

I have a Blue + Kahili run if you wanna take a look. What move level is Blue?

Nvm tho you need Redlax too for it to work

[tired sleet]

Kahilli has SuperPrep so it may be possible to replace Red with someone else, unless you really needed SEUN on Blue

[lean lion]

Yeah the SEUN is needed, Kahili doesn't nuke hard enough (17-18k).

Blue needs to do some damage to mid

[noble plaza]

Blue is 5/5

[lean lion]

Then it could work. Mines only 2/5. Which round is this?

[mellow linden]

Round 2 is their plan

[lean lion]

Yeah then it'll work even without Redlax

[noble plaza]

Oh sick!!!

[mellow linden]

Which is a double-edged sword against Koga, so definitely be careful

[noble plaza]

I mean I could choose another round

I was wondering if the Special Attack boost would be enough

[mellow linden]

You can always try round 2 and then switch to someone else if Koga hits too hard to clear

[nocturne pawn]

what i did for koga was lowkey kinda funny

[noble plaza]

[nocturne pawn]

i just used ss elesa and redlax and spammed sync with blue

on half sync oops

so i did eat one but i still lived so like :p

[noble plaza]

Damn

[noble plaza]

Do you have a link or screenshot?

[lean lion]

Here #1208860837947899965 message

[tired sleet]

Yeah but Kahilli can give herself SEUN

[lean lion]

I gave it to Blue. Kahili has no damage outside sync.

And she can't nuke the whole 26k at once unless -6 def

[noble plaza]

Which grid?

[lean lion]

Sync Nuke + Critical Eye

[lean lion]

Although try not to rely on Eagle Eye for your sync atleast. Even if you get +3, use Second Wind before Kahili sync to guarantee the crit. Make sure you have Trainer Move: Ramp Up and TM MPR gridded on Blue.

[noble plaza]

What sort of support should I use?

[lean lion]

Just ignore the last message and use the Critical Eye grid. I just realized I had no stat reduction param on so Def crush wouldn't work.

[lean lion]

Someone who can max Kahili's atk

[noble plaza]

I didn't turn that param on so it's still worth a try

Lmao i love how much you're correcting yourself /lh

[lean lion]

I'm a mess rn yeah

But yeah go with someone who can max Kahili's atk, and everything else is now correct

hopefully

[paper summit]

go to sleep, smh

[tired sleet]

[lean lion]

Actually omw to bed

[noble plaza]

Eepy time

[latent eagle]

Bro it’s crazy that sycamore can just solo Lorelei

[mellow linden]

It do be like that sometimes

[sharp willow]

they call it the immortal deer for a reason

[noble plaza]

Alright so with some adjustments I managed to get a clear with Hilbert, Kahili, and Blue! Thanks a million for your help!

I needed flinch to get the presync in

And since Hilbert can buff crit I decided to do Super Effective Next Move on Kahili's grid.

[lean lion]

Nicely done!!

[wide adder]

ngl didnt expect reds max move to ohko the electric stage before i even put up E-Terrain

[tulip python]

Christ I can’t do Koga Round 4

He OHKOs the squad with Lugia

[toxic cobalt]

Who is the squad with Lugia

Is this the Koga with fake Wise Entry?

[tulip python]

Whatever he is this week

Physical damage susceptible

While the sides are soeciak@

Special*

[paper summit]

well, you shouldn't have left him for round 4 in the first place but alas

[toxic cobalt]

Oh yeah it's that Koga

[tulip python]

I tried him round 3 but alas

[toxic cobalt]

Have you tried using sleep to get two syncs in?

[tulip python]

I used darkrai on the dark one

I’ve gotten close with Moltres

But that’s annoyingly rng a bit as far as damage goes

What round should he be

Cause the first 3 rounds took like 5 mins, since I have all the strong types for that

[undone ether]

Fake Wise Entry x2 heh

[toxic cobalt]

How close are you to getting the new Skyla?

[tulip python]

Uh

[undone ether]

I cracked koga with blue o/

[tulip python]

A ways away

[toxic cobalt]

Who is your Lugia support?