Champion Stadium

[tulip python]

Queue*

[left storm]

You should always sleep on last Mon

So example with skyla would be
Gust
Marnie's move
Dark void

When you wanna set zone, you could go that but wait to queue Marnie's move

So
Gust, Marnie, void, gust, zone, gust, void, Marnie, void, gust

To be sure they don't wake up

[tulip python]

Ohh

[wide adder]

Man I was scrolled up to yesterdays stuff here and the amount of rudeness that one person was causing made my brain hurt tbh…

Gonna look at my options for next week like I originally planned to now…

Does Karen with a snarl build make sense here?

Teams rough draft for the week so far.

[old orchid]

Would be wasteful if Karen is locked to Snarl/Bite only

[swift swan]

Also ngl I tried that exact dark team before. Gauge was a bit tough, even with Calem being a gauge battery, I couldn't easily spam N's 4 bar move

But yours is 3/5 EX so he should nuke fine

[wide adder]

im just planning to aim for an early nuke so i figured might be fine if karen doesnt mega

wanting to see how good the full nuke is on first sync in-battle

[dark osprey]

Personally love the Karan bite build. Aggravation with sync countdown reduction is really nice when it procs to shave a whole turn instantly

Nice touch is that bite also reduces special attack albeit by 1 and single target

[mellow linden]

(Apologies for ping, but this is something very important that will help you in the future)

For future reference, the 50-point Physical Damage Reduction and 50-point Special Damage Reduction parameters only set the Reflect and Light Screen field effects respectively, and those effects are ignored by critical hits and thus are free points with proper teambuilding

[hushed lintel]

I actually did not know that

Thx

[rose ermine]

Am i good for next week?(5k left,15k right)

[jagged void]

I’m still struggling, what other characters could I use?

[old orchid]

do you have Hala?

[mellow linden]

Bring a physical damage-dealer, off-type is fine (though you may need to pick a different Support)

[jagged void]

No

[mellow linden]

It's fine if you don't have Hala, a physical damage-dealer should be able to handle Drake on Hard Mode even if off-type

[jagged void]

Any suggestions?

[mellow linden]

Any reasonably strong physical damage-dealer

[jagged void]

I should’ve saved using main character and solgaleo to now :/

[mellow linden]

MC + Solgaleo is not the only option for this

[jagged void]

Yeah ik.

I may level up Nate and try him

[mellow linden]

I wouldn't recommend Nate

[swift swan]

Which nate

[mellow linden]

Assuming you mean with Braviary

[jagged void]

Yeah.

[mellow linden]

If with Haxorus then yeah, he's a good pick, but Nate + Braviary is on the lower end and would probably still struggle

[jagged void]

Ah.

[mellow linden]

If you show us your roster we can offer suggestions

[jagged void]

Sure should I just show physical/special strikes or all of them?

[mellow linden]

Whole roster, Tech/Field/Sprint pairs can often act as damage-dealers too

[jagged void]

Ah ok

[swift swan]

+tracker fill in the tracker if you haven't, it greatly helps us view your roster

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[swift swan]

Instead of screenshots

[jagged void]

Ah ok. Lemme fill it out

[keen jasper]

Why you no use Candice?

The OG one

[main crow]

that team looks slow even with May racing rain

[jagged void]

I’ve completed it

[jagged void]

Never though of it tbh

[swift swan]

Download the image and share it here

[keen jasper]

They said they've already done Drake

[swift swan]

Oh? I assume they meant they finished filling in the tracker

[jagged void]

No I haven’t sorry :/

[keen jasper]

Oh ok, seems I misunderstood it

I thought when you said "I've completed it", it means you've done Drake

[jagged void]

It’s fine.

[silver dirge]

#1153583498687414283 message @main crow I'm dedicating this clear to you bestie

[dim depot]

Yeah, I know. On this team, I wasn't counting on having +3 crit to reliably ignore the shield for the type of attack I was focusing on. A wiffed sync is a run-ender with a shield. Without it, not so much, at least I've seen.

[rotund lagoon]

Even if sync doesn’t Crit, note having maxed Crit for DPS especially is vital

Maxed Crit is genuinely just as much of a basic need as Maxed Atk/Sp Atk, because it allows for a high chance for bigger damage at basically every turn. Not to mention, a lot of damage dealers want Critical Strike 2 as a Lucky Skill, boosting damage even more.

[dim depot]

Yeah, it's certainly a priority otherwise. It's just hard to fit in that particular battle. And syncs still aren't guaranteed to crit, so it's an additional layer of RNG in a battle that was already very clutch

[rotund lagoon]

Honestly….yours had no excuse. :T
Diantha can have members that help her max Sp Atk while she focuses on Crit. 2 turns of setup is not a huge deal imo
I always say worry about RNG after basic needs.

[silver dirge]

Crit is absolutely a necessity, it should be one of the first priorities before you consider anything else

Willingly losing out on 1.5x multiplicative is a huge gameplay flaw

[mellow linden]

Yeah, if you can’t reach +4 in the respective offensive stat and +3 crit by the time you reach 1st Sync then you should seriously consider improving the team

Crits are vital to damage-dealers

[lean lion]

How much does crit strike 2 increase the multiplier?

[silver dirge]

CS2 is 20%, additive with other multipliers of that nature. It's separate from the 1.5x from crit, it just applies when you crit

[dim depot]

Hmm, looking at the teams I won with, I didn't even have crit on the electric team...
But nevertheless, I do understand the importance of it. Nearly all my pre built teams will have it in there somehow.

[rotund lagoon]

Wait, is Sonia not 3/5?

[dim depot]

5/5

[rotund lagoon]

Was she not gridded for Crit???

[dim depot]

Oh! I see there is a crit+ node. I guess not

[rotund lagoon]

Then yeah change that

[dim depot]

Would have only made it easier. The team must have done fine without it

I guess you can't have her be a strong potion healer, master paralyzer, and crit buffer all at once

[rotund lagoon]

She kinda can, but her buffs are first priority

But paralyzing I leave to someone else

Cough Volkner cough

[left storm]

Paralizing is kinda useless most stages

So potion + crit and either flinch or endure is the most used grid

[mellow linden]

Elesa + Zebstrika also has Critical Eye in grid

[lean lion]

Teams for next week's CSMM. Anything I should change?

Wanna try to surpass 13k points, my pb

[keen jasper]

Dark-weak Phoebe has ghost zone, so you need to replace it if you can't pre-sync her

[mellow linden]

Depending on your roster you can probably improve the Karen team and I’d recommend adjusting the SST Red team so his teammates are a 2nd Electric damage-dealer + an appropriate Support for that 2nd damage-dealer

[lean lion]

Do I need another zone to replace it?

[keen jasper]

Yes

[mellow linden]

Zone or Defog if you can’t KO center before they Sync

[lean lion]

Hau is my only real option so I thought it was better to start debuffing mid defense from turn one since Red doesn't need Kiawe's TMs

[keen jasper]

Dark-weak Phoebe is mixed, but her sync is physical

[mellow linden]

Can try that and see how it goes, yeah

[lean lion]

I don't have any zone setters

So defog then?

[keen jasper]

Then either Darach or BP Falkner

Mainly Darach because he can lower the enemies' attack

[brave halo]

This should all work right?

[lean lion]

Then I need to use 4 turn maxing Karen's stats. Gonna have to replace BP Morty then as well no?

[rotund lagoon]

Not sure why SC Zinnia and NC Marnie are on the same team, does not look good for gauge (and mixed attacks if running in MM)
And Bea would like real help in setting up, NC Rosa does not achieve that
That’s all I see so far

[brave halo]

Sc zinnia helps on the +3 param and just steal all that, I might changed Aaron to aura cynthia tho, bea on the other hand is able to almost set herself up however there wasn't much that I could trust for the last +2 attack, hop is staying tho

Rosa does help albeit ill have to be lucky on her B move for another attack buff

[mellow linden]

I’d recommend a dedicated Attack + crit Support over relying on NC Rosa’s random buffs, personally

Otherwise the teams seem fine

[keen jasper]

I think Rosa is there for the fighting rebuff

[mellow linden]

Having faster Sp. Atk. + crit buffs would be ideal, yeah

[lean lion]

Had BP Morty in there for the omni defense buffs

I'll try to pre-sync first. If it doesn't work, I'll switch team to fit Darach for Defog and a different support to help setup Karen.

[mellow linden]

I’m aware, but NC Hop + Bea is already gonna shred, I’d personally recommend a way for Bea to start Meteor Assaulting earlier rather than Rebuff’s extra overkill

[brave halo]

Crit is kinda taken care of both by her own passive and grid as well as Hop

[mellow linden]

Attack + crit means both Bea and NC Hop can start dealing damage faster, is why I say that

[rotund lagoon]

Still, Attack buffs from a Support is needed. Bea’s setup is slow

[keen jasper]

Yeah, she needs to use X Attack twice

[mellow linden]

When you have a dual damage-dealer setup like that where both would benefit from an Attack + crit Support it’s a good idea to consider running one

[brave halo]

OK is this better then cause I know I need to drop defenses but realized that hop could drop very fast due to -2 spdef

[mellow linden]

Nothing about Fighting weak Glacia demands debuffs, as far as I can tell

[brave halo]

She gets both defense buffs on entry

[mellow linden]

Also, it’s not like you have to abandon the previous team entirely, you’re free to just ignore our suggestions if you want as long as you acknowledge the reasoning behind them

[old orchid]

I would replace Cynthia with Hop for on demand zone. Or zone will always run out before sync regardless of having Sprint EX or not. The team is good enough but you might be upset if the sync is not boosted by zone

[mellow linden]

Those’re ignored by crits, so eh, no big deal

[silver dirge]

Oh I need to update the pinned thing by Monday too

[old orchid]

[mellow linden]

Sprint Role EX on SSA Cynthia would allow for Fighting Zone up on 2nd Sync assuming quadqueue or Adrenaline is being utilized

[old orchid]

Yeah, assuming Rosa doesnt click her B Move too

[silver dirge]

Rosa try not to take up most WTZ time with one BMove challenge

[old orchid]

And Cynthia as well, and iirc Diantha's passives proccing at once is so long

[versed meteor]

Wait isn't WTZ time based on sync move count down

[brave halo]

It wouldn't matter anyway, it wouldn't be around when I sync with diantha

[nocturne pawn]

no its a timer

45 seconds

it happens to last 9 moves

[left storm]

9 fast moves circa

7-8 slow ones

[tulip python]

Clutch win hahaha

Managed to evade the last one thank you rngesus

[dense swift]

ok i literally cannot beat anyone in champion stadium, here's all my units

does anyone know any teams i could possibly make to beat literally anyone?

[old orchid]

I assume you have only unlock hard mode, is that correct?

[dense swift]

yep, just finished story

[old orchid]

Also please put correct move level on your pairs, some are significantly improved with more dupes so teambuilding may be differ. And you are missing some good units like Sycamore and other legendaries from Legendary Adventures

In case you are not aware of this:

+legexchange

[frozen depot]

When completing a Legendary Adventure in the Main Story section, you will be awarded a sync pair, 4 vouchers and 20 power-ups (usable on that pair only)

• Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
• DO NOT TRADE the power-ups, use all 20 on the unlocked pair (in upgrade > potential tab)
  https://i.imgur.com/gGHPQjd.png
  For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[dense swift]

ah let me fix the levels

should i do all those first?

[old orchid]

Yes, please do

They are great units to have

[dense swift]

is there a sort i can use to match the ingame sort?

[old orchid]

Afaik there is none. You have to put the data manually

[rotund lagoon]

I usually like to filter by type in the game and tracker and copy that way, makes it easier

[dense swift]

updated image

[old orchid]

I see your Hop is still 1/5. So please follow this guide to get him and other legendaries at 5/5 and 20/20

[dense swift]

working on that rn

currently getting curbstomped by raihan

[old orchid]

You can bring a spdef buffer to eat special moves without worries

[dense swift]

ok do i actually have to level to 135 for this or something?

like i do no damage to his flygon

at all

attempting to use hop-leon-drake but drake just kinda insta dies

and even when i managed to get his sync move off on flygon it did like 7% damage

[old orchid]

I dont remember that stage's gimmick but it was a straightforward fight

Is Leon having at least +3 crit? And are you doing triple queue constantly?

Lvl 120 is fine for most content generally

[dense swift]

started playing on x1 speed at the start to ensure triple queue

[keen jasper]

Drake has WE x2 and sets up sandstorm

[keen jasper]

You are fighting against Drake right?

[old orchid]

I thought you were taking on Raihan stage in Hop's LA event. He also uses Flygon

[dense swift]

nah, i'm against raihan at the end of hop's la

[keen jasper]

Oh that

[old orchid]

Would be helpful if you record the gameplay of yours then post it in #1009557516369281075 so we can analyze and pinpoint the issue

[dense swift]

is there a move that clears enemy stat buffs?

[old orchid]

Yes, there is Haze for aoe removal

[jagged void]

Grusha soloed

[versed meteor]

Somehow sst Red, N and shauna lost

[trail smelt]

Vs Phoebe?

How odd

[old orchid]

probably parameter issue

[silver dirge]

definitely

[old orchid]

is that OG Shauna? that team still has gauge issue even with Red's built in Turbo Charge

[trail smelt]

Oh wait isn’t Phoebe a special attacker

[versed meteor]

It is oG shuna but didn't really have a gauge issue just not enough damage

[silver dirge]

You're not picking up defense are you?

[versed meteor]

No just hp

[old orchid]

i guess im worried too much about it

how about taking some HP off

[versed meteor]

Holy, NC blue is a menace on type, somehow 1/5 sst red did 50k on sync

[old orchid]

100% boost from 2 rebuffs is no joke

[silver dirge]

The better rat

[old orchid]

the better rat at being bad so true

||let's ignore the other 2 op pairs||

[silver dirge]

Roxie was barely doing 3-4k damage!

Against standard DR

[old orchid]

[keen jasper]

Holy fuck man, my SS Erika got critted twice just when I was about to win

[calm marsh]

I guess he come from future

[old orchid]

Its a recently discovered exploit #game-announcements message better not discussing further about it

[silver dirge]

Please don't discuss sharing it here

[sick inlet]

[versed meteor]

An exploit happend and it was used on fire weak glacia i am vindicated

[rich needle]

Guys

How do I make summer Steven 1/5 do damage

It’s hard

[wide adder]

Uhhh… ya kinda… don’t for the most part from my experience…?

He needs to be in hail… and I think even his 1/5 grid has a Harry tile so he wants them flinched…

Even then it’s

Rather just use hala

Or one of our several op ice units

[rich needle]

no

i have irida

i can fix him

[wide adder]

If you’re using irida honestly she just becomes the main damage dealer there

Summer Steven is that outdated

Imo the biggest use case for SuSteven is gauntlet stages like moltres. If weather helps clear a gauntlet stage he becomes decent value cause infinite weather after just one sync cycle. In moltres case he also helps flinch so he can flinch till then

[rotund lagoon]

One second, please!!

#1073655215363985498 message

Screw the fact that I had to search on desktop cause new mobile UI won’t let you search in forums….

[rich needle]

mobile ui is trash thats wild

seriously why hasnt it been reverted

ugh

[rotund lagoon]

I’m genuinely hoping people are screaming about it in the feedback forums rn

[noble plaza]

they are, at least last time i checked

it's horrific. why is the search so annoying now. why are pins hidden behind menus

[trail smelt]

Mobile search was fine before why did they make it trash now lol

[noble plaza]

i know!!!

[sick inlet]

What do we have tomorrow for Sidney

Flying weak

Ugh

[main crow]

they really just said we have to just deal with the new mobile ui bruh

like bro maybe test out how some functions work first before making it everyone's problem

mobile search feature is legit garbage

[keen jasper]

Wallace is the one who's poison-weak right?

[old orchid]

Yes

[silver dirge]

Pins updated

Shouldn't be too bad this time, I suspect Phoebe will give some people trouble

[main crow]

Sentry entry x2 Phoebe huh

[silver dirge]

I think the high base HP is more of an issue, that's what made Sidney annoying this week

Accessible dark for special is just .. Karen?

[old orchid]

i love that emotes grow bigger in titles too

[silver dirge]

Same

[main crow]

Karen can certainly take care of Phoebe 3k no problem honestly

[silver dirge]

Oh absolutely

[main crow]

Meanwhile i want to brute force

[silver dirge]

But people tend to undermine gen pools for whatever reason

Based team

[old orchid]

brute force
3/5 SS Cyrus

[main crow]

He's just going to be sleep chaining

While Akari chips away

[old orchid]

thats good

[main crow]

Slowly

[silver dirge]

Akari does really well off-type, she'll do just fine

[old orchid]

imagine owning Akari to know about that

[main crow]

Akari is scary good for off type indeed

Two samurotts in game and they're really good

So happy as day 1 samurott stan

[silver dirge]

I don't use Hilbert 🚮 at all

But Akari is based yes

[main crow]

Smh biased

[left storm]

Hilbert Is so good tho

I love the fact he works kinda like argenta through his TM and aggro buffs so you can do some cool shit like having supp damage X3 with him

[silver dirge]

See I personally have Argenta though she's a lot more fun in that regard Or NC Calem, SS Acerola. But yeah, no discredit to Hilbert, he's solid

[keen jasper]

SS Ethan should handle Sidney no problem at 4k pts. right?

[lean lion]

2/5 good enough?

[formal vigil]

It might work if you get lucky with dark pulse flinches

[silver dirge]

Hmm you're missing some pretty critical multipliers there - may need to incorporate some denial ^ or other strategy

[formal vigil]

Since you do have overpower at least and sync power flux

[silver dirge]

You've also got Bite & Dark Pulse Aggravation to help with the flinches

[formal vigil]

Would have to bring someone else to debuff spak

Like viola or ghetsis

[lean lion]

But I also need someone to remove zone don't know if I can presync

Phoebe is tricky

[formal vigil]

Do you have any dark zone setters?

[lean lion]

No

Started playing after egg umbreon event

[formal vigil]

Do you have darach?

[lean lion]

Yeah

That's who I was planning on using

[formal vigil]

Do you also have Lodge dawn?

[lean lion]

No just invited Dawn to lodge today

Okay can I do this? I have 3/5 Kris Totodile. Kris + Def debuffer for Steven and Cerena with Karen for rebuff?

[formal vigil]

rain setter proably be better for steven

[lean lion]

Kiawe + Kris + Winona

[formal vigil]

do you not have 3/5 sonia otherwise that team is fine?

[lean lion]

No Sonia at all

[formal vigil]

yeah team fine then

for pheobe could you please share your list of supports?

[lean lion]

Just a sec

These are the teams for all stages

[formal vigil]

cerena karen leaf should work yeah would have to grid leaf for attack buffs though

[lean lion]

Karen can +3 sp atk with both tms

[formal vigil]

attack buffs for cerena

[lean lion]

I though Leaf would max Karen's crit and Cerena's Sp atk

[formal vigil]

because dark cerena physical

[lean lion]

Is it worth using Dark Cerena after using both bmoves tho?

[formal vigil]

the nuke

[lean lion]

I though I'll just shift to water shuriken

Even with sentry entry?

[formal vigil]

should hit harder than karens sync since only 2/5

[old orchid]

Phoebe has Sentry Entry x2 yeah

[formal vigil]

oh wait I forgot

then just sync with karen yeah

[lean lion]

And I'm also thinking replace Kiawe with Hop

+2 def shouldn't matter too much right?

On the enemy

[formal vigil]

remeber karen should take first sync instead of leaf

[silver dirge]

Crits bypass stat buffs

[formal vigil]

it might matter because of tough cookie

[lean lion]

Yeah not gonna use Leaf's sync at all

[lean lion]

Oh right

[silver dirge]

But it will affect tough cookie, yeah

[lean lion]

Please explain?

[formal vigil]

crits ignore raised special defence and physical defnce

[silver dirge]

Do you mean for tough cookie?

[lean lion]

Yeah

[silver dirge]

It's a passive that powers up moves depending on the number of defense buffs

[lean lion]

That part tough cookiet

Oh the one Dawn has right?

[formal vigil]

yes

[silver dirge]

Who is this for, though? Drake & Steven have tough cookie, the rest don't

And yeah, Dawn has it

[formal vigil]

water steven has it too

[lean lion]

I'll try hop first, if tough cookie is a problem Kiawe with Tm mp refresh should work

Thanks a lot guys!

[formal vigil]

if steven problem at all just hope for good flinch rng on winnoa

[lean lion]

Right can reset for flinches too

[craggy glade]

Which of the stages this week has the lowest hp/sp def for me to off type?

[mellow linden]

I don’t think that’s the factor you should consider for which stage(s) to off-type

I don’t think there’s a single stage where the innate bulk is too high for off-typing to be a viable option

The primary things you should focus on are your available roster for on-typing and what your off-type options are

[craggy glade]

My off type is anni Lillie

[mellow linden]

A. Lillie is really bad at off-typing, to be 100% honest with you

[craggy glade]

That's the only option

[mellow linden]

Then on-type or Poison stall is your best bet

[craggy glade]

No like

I have to pick one stage to off type with anni Lillie

Her specifically

[mellow linden]

Don’t off-type then, run dual damage-dealer against Fairy weak Sidney with Moonblast

Still get to use A. Lillie while not sacrificing her primary damage boost of Super Preparation

[craggy glade]

You're right I forgor moonblast exists

[mellow linden]

You can even roll with Lodge Lillie as the 2nd damage-dealer to maximize Lillie prevalence

[rich needle]

Sweats in summer Steven

[north crown]

Show your roster

oh wait this is on Sidney? Lillie's Moonblast is not that bad; hell, Mina will probably have an easier time since all she can do is nuke. AnniLillie should be able to clean up mid (and chip away at mid if required for presync)

**Marley, BPValerie, AnniLillie **should be able to wipe the stage relatively easily. I even accounted for Sidney's annoying AOE Thunder Wave via Marley's TM.

[mellow linden]

Since they seemed to be doing some sort of self-imposed challenge I think they’re probably fine. I could be wrong though

[north crown]

Does it only "seem" so, or do we know for sure?

[mellow linden]

Didn’t think to ask since they haven’t asked for any help with specific teams

[paper summit]

I mean, you simply don't know, just wait and see? no reason to go speculating...

[craggy glade]

It's ok I just deleted Sydney

Can't believe I had to actually whip out the moonblast anni Lillie but it became really easy once I don't have a fixed team with her

[trail smelt]

Oh man I forgot Phoebe has sentry entry

Gonna try to brute force anyway

[left storm]

Does she really?

I soloed with Tbolt red as always

[trail smelt]

No dark weak

[craggy glade]

I won but at what cost

Katherine's dazzling gleam did a surprisingly decent amount of damage

[rich needle]

I did moonblast lisia

[clever bronze]

I used ss wally diantha and penny against sidney and diantha and ss wally got paralyzed before sidney’s sync so I had to tank it

[dense swift]

well i beat my first round

i only just now realized you can only use each pair once

:')

[mellow linden]

Thus lies the challenge of CS

[dense swift]

ive got literally no idea what to do for the other rounds

LMAO

[mellow linden]

Who’d you use for Round 1?

[dense swift]

leon/hop/sycamore

took out sidney

[mellow linden]

Can try building a team around:

• Silver for Glacia
• Hala for Drake
• Hau for Phoebe (go get him from the main story if you don’t have him yet)
• Mallow against Wallace

[dense swift]

wait when do you get hau? i'm still stuck waiting to get to the interlude bit

[mellow linden]

Make sure to read up on the enemy gimmicks via the pinned messages (including the pomatools link as the 3rd link in the top pin)

[mellow linden]

PML Arc

How are you stuck?

[dense swift]

wait

my god i've had interlude 1 this whole time

kill me

I THOUGHT I HAD TO GO STRAIGHT TO CS

LMFAO

[mellow linden]

Better late than never

[north crown]

You can still ask for help when you're done getting all the free story units

[swift swan]

updated

[undone ether]

Hmm r3 against sidney with Blue hmmm

[swift swan]

Sidney is pretty mixed so you can try resetting to avoid dark pulse spam

[jagged void]

I’m gonna have to off type all except Steven-

[swift swan]

why? all the types have decent genpool options (at the correct move levels ofc)

[jagged void]

I don’t have any good pairs for the typings (that I’ve leveled up yet)

[swift swan]

if it's still hard mode or lower points CSMM, offtyping should be fine

[jagged void]

Yeah it’s still hard mode

Definetly have to offtype for this lol-

[wide adder]

R1: Physical damage reduction at start = whoever hits the hardest physically?
R2: Status conditions are more effective = does this even change any of the teams lol
R3: Special attack moves are powered up (be careful with Sidney and Phoebe here) = idk if worth using SSEthan or N team here or not
R4: When a Pokemon faints, debuffs the stats of all allies = an aoe team?
R5: Debuffs are more effective
thoughts based on my planned teams for order?

[wide adder]

Roark is right there

if you can afford to grid

debuffs being more effective just screams to make sure i still have cerena for steven

[jagged void]

I have 200 sync orbs

[wide adder]

rip

[jagged void]

Would any others be ok to use for Phoebe?

[wide adder]

id say for checking viable units filter your types by Known Move rather than Sync type btw

theres plenty of DDs for types that dont have it as their primary type in this game

[jagged void]

Ohh-

[manic mica]

can u help me to beat rock battle in champion stadium hard?

will this team work?

[jagged void]

Would Cheren and gladion work with piers?

[wide adder]

Gladion really wants 3/5 to be effective iirc, and Cheren isn't a damage dealer, unfortunately. (Plus gladion's physical)

[jagged void]

Ohh, so offtyping it is then

[swift swan]

Pick either Olivia or Gordie, they don't have much synergy together

And at 1/5 Gordie doesn't really bring much damage

[jagged void]

Any improvements that I could make?

[trail smelt]

Simple week this time, but oof not looking forward to next week’s

Ready(?) for next week

[jagged void]

What’s next week?

[main crow]

@silver dirge bulky HP, full strength and Sentry entry x2 be damned

[silver dirge]

I'd expect nothing less

[main crow]

Dark types are so fun to use

[swift swan]

That Sidney team has no support, you'll struggle with gauge and tanking

if you're only doing hard mode, just Blue works fine, no need for Nate

The Drake team looks fine, just grid Roark if you can so he doesn't kill himself with head smash. You can go for a nuke grid or a head smash grid

both SS Brendan and SS Blue are quite unnecessary on Steven. Misty has absolutely no DPS and while her nuke is great, it depends on her move level. You can run Hydro Pump Cyrus instead, perhaps. and a rain setter

[verbal karma]

Here we go again with Sidney causing problems

on R2 this time

I can beat the mid just fine

but then the sides just...insta-kill everyone except SS Brendan with one single EQ

[versed meteor]

Why not use blue

[verbal karma]

Wait, why Blue?

[silver dirge]

Anni Skyla + Blue + SS Brendan

Blue actually has DPS

Skyla does not

[swift swan]

sync with blue first

get his nuke grid

those two should destroy Sidney

[verbal karma]

But why?

I need the EX support sync buff

[swift swan]

because he relies on his sync to deal damage

to unlock Hurricane

[verbal karma]

Damn

[swift swan]

who has, you know, good DPS compared to anni skyla

with Blue and Anni Skyla there you probably wouldn't need the EX support

Just fish for Blue's TM MPR for accuracy buffs because you'll need it for Brutal Clarity

[keen jasper]

Boy, 4k Sidney gave me some trouble, but I made it

[verbal karma]

Okay, tried to do this team, with Blue syncing first

and now Anni Skyla's sync no longer kills mid

So no, EX support sync buff is still necessary, sadly

[keen jasper]

I love YOLO params like -1 and -2 sync CD and half HP

[calm marsh]

[keen jasper]

Ah yes, Me, Myself and I

[undone ether]

that round 3 wwww

[swift swan]

Even with you spamming Hurricane after that?

And make sure not to take too much bulk

[calm marsh]

Falkner, Falkner and Falkner

[wide adder]

if youre still struggling, it might be worth trying SS Elesa for the support slot, since shes still basically one of the BIS supports for og blue imo. just as something to try and all.

gets you the sync a turn earlier, gives him his spatk and acc

(DISCLAIMER: not 100% sure if the lowered setup time offsets the lack of ssbrendan -spdef debuffs)

[verbal karma]

Yeah, that's what I am worried about: that it might not offset it

[formal vigil]

With flying zone it should

So faster setup probably much appreciated

[undone ether]

can he do it though? LOL

I know NC Serena can

unfortunately, she's in the Anti Steven department

[verbal karma]

Except it doesn't

[undone ether]

Blue and what'shername, Anni Skyla?

[verbal karma]

Hell, even with Flying Zone on, Anni Skyla's sync does NOT kill mid if the EX support didn't sync beforehand

[undone ether]

i'm gonna be running Blue/AnniSkyla and SC Steven .-.

[verbal karma]

So I am already at a huge disadvantage

[formal vigil]

Is blue hurricane under zone not doing much?

[verbal karma]

I rarely even get to use Hurricane to begin with

[undone ether]

i'm doing presync and SC Steven aand Skyla is just gonna die ❤️

[formal vigil]

Guage issues?

[verbal karma]

Yes

[keen jasper]

You know, I don't understand why some people don't use parameters like -1 and -2 sync CD and half HP

[verbal karma]

half HP?!

[keen jasper]

Yes

I use it on my 20k pts. runs

[verbal karma]

SS Brendan already loses ⅔ of his HP from one single Dark Pulse

[formal vigil]

What other supports do you have?

[keen jasper]

Did you use his TM?

[verbal karma]

...a lot, actually, but like I said: I need the Sp. Def debuffs

[keen jasper]

With 3 gauges?

[verbal karma]

Yes

And he still loses ⅔ of his HP

[keen jasper]

Because his TM's max potential is when it's consumed at 3 gauges

[verbal karma]

from one Dark Pulse

[verbal karma]

I know

That's why I am using it at the start

[keen jasper]

Are you looking at your gauges?

[verbal karma]

...yes?

[keen jasper]

Or are you directly using it first?

[undone ether]

Presync'd D:

[verbal karma]

I mean, the gauge is full at the start

and yes, I am using it first

[undone ether]

SC Steven died because of the side not critting...

(Also lucky flinched everyone)

but srsly. -1 Flying Rebuff, Brain Sync 5, CS2, Flying Zone and Sync Power Flux just doesnt kill mid though. why are they so chonky? D:?!

[formal vigil]

Probably best to rest to a run were brendan procs his passive alot and use anni skyla tm for speed buffs/mini potion to conserve guage

So you can spam more hurricanes

[wide adder]

ended up having to pull out ncmarnie for dark weak, i had trouble figuring out nuking with just summer n there

[calm marsh]

Ofc he can

Sleep + Flinch

[undone ether]

the side died rofl.

[verbal karma]

Done with R2 Sidney, but now R3 Phoebe is causing me problems

None of my supports are good at tanking any of her attacks

[keen jasper]

Doing a fight that mostly has special moves

[formal vigil]

What team your using

[keen jasper]

That is practically a double-edged sword

What you're doing

[verbal karma]

Karen, Pal Dawn, support

[formal vigil]

Why pal dawn

[verbal karma]

Pal Dawn debuffs Sp. Def

[formal vigil]

You need a special attack debuffer

[keen jasper]

And who replaces that zone?

[keen jasper]

Karen tho

[verbal karma]

^

[verbal karma]

There is no zone at start

[formal vigil]

Yeah need someone else to reach -6 faster

[keen jasper]

Karen already does -2 with Snarl and Satisfied Snarl 9

[verbal karma]

^

[keen jasper]

Yes, but you need to replace it before her first sync

[verbal karma]

I am trying to pre sync anyway

[formal vigil]

I personally prefer someone to help spak debuff

[keen jasper]

The ghost zone will help out the sides

Even if Phoebe gets pre-synced

[verbal karma]

I am trying to beat Phoebe before she even gets to set up the zone

[keen jasper]

That'd require some sync CD set up

Unless you have Champion Calem, SS Cyrus or eggmon Umbreon

[verbal karma]

Oh yeah, I do have Eggmon Umbreon

I forgot

[keen jasper]

Then you don't need to worry about ghost zone

[verbal karma]

...wait, who does Umbreon replace?

[formal vigil]

Pal dawn

[keen jasper]

Main question is, who is your support unit?

[verbal karma]

Well, I am trying out multiple different support units, though I am putting a focus on buffing Sp. Atk

Right now, I am trying with Rosa

[keen jasper]

Rosa's buff is random

[formal vigil]

Og rosa?

[verbal karma]

Yup, though now I am kinda tempted to switch her with NC Rosa, but I don't know if it would be wiser to safe her for later

[keen jasper]

Well, NC Rosa is significantly more bulkier and she has Potion

And also mastter passive

[verbal karma]

Sadly, the Master Passive won't help much

[formal vigil]

I would probably use spak crit buffer

[keen jasper]

Also, if Rosa is EX roled with Adrenaline, then you can potentially kill Phoebe before she sets up Ghost Zone

[verbal karma]

Oh? I thought Karen wants to sync first for the Mega Evol?

[formal vigil]

She does

[keen jasper]

I thought there were only few mega units who want to sync first?

[formal vigil]

Karen is one of them

[keen jasper]

Well, I guess I can consider Karen because her bite becomes Dark Pulse and it really boosts her damage

[formal vigil]

Unless you want to dps with snarl lol

[keen jasper]

And can potentially flinch

[manic kiln]

Mega units like karen and blue can still presync without support sync so just sync twice with them

[verbal karma]

Yeah, I just need to find a support that does NOT get KO'd in only two hits

[keen jasper]

JK

[formal vigil]

Could try reseting for good flinch rng or do pheobe different round yeah

[manic kiln]

You have more than 5 premium supports, use them, what are you saving them for

[keen jasper]

Switch your main support's lucky skill to Ghost Guard

[calm marsh]

You can utilize flinch/sleep too

[silver dirge]

This should not be necessary, they tend to be low on cookies as is

[keen jasper]

Haven't they farmed LG yet?

[silver dirge]

idt they farm LG at all

[verbal karma]

I do at least try to farm LG

But it's such a tedious process with little to no reward

It is honestly very demoralizing

I wish LG would give better rewards tbh

But, like, better rewards on Round 1

[silver dirge]

Well unfortunately that's not really something we can change - hopefully you at least do the 10 for the crucial rewards. But anyway, like Pykuo suggested, you can utilise denial to avoid strong moves if necessary

[verbal karma]

I only do the 10 when it has a Guaranteed Lucky Cookie I really want

Which it does not right now

[silver dirge]

It's quite silly to miss out on the move candies and such up til 10 streaks, but up to you - and also not relevant to CS

[verbal karma]

Well, I would use denial if I could, but Karen only gets Dark Pulse after syncing

and I need to get to the syncing first

[swift swan]

Bite can flinch too

[keen jasper]

But how can they set up Devastation?

[swift swan]

Satisfied snarl 9 on grid. You kinda want it for faster set up anyway

Not to mention you don't need to flinch all the time

[verbal karma]

I mean

My current support dies in literally two hits

Hell, Shadow Ball is even an insta-kill

[silver dirge]

That's what the flinch is for

Or you reduce some attack & increase a 'lil bulk

[verbal karma]

I know, I just tried to explain that to Nov

[keen jasper]

This is why I said your support needs to have Ghost Guard, to make up for the round parameter

[silver dirge]

Why are you doing R3 on Phoebe?

[verbal karma]

So Karen could benefit from the R3 parameter

Plus, it's either Phoebe or Glacia

[calm marsh]

Phoebe has x2 SpDef

[verbal karma]

...

[keen jasper]

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that too

[calm marsh]

So physical is better here

[silver dirge]

It's Sentry Entry, not wise

x2 Def

[keen jasper]

So you literally doomed yourself

[swift swan]

Arch is right, it's sentry entry x2

What's the support anyway

R3 Phoebe is tough

[keen jasper]

No yeah, Phoebe has Sentry x2

[verbal karma]

I would have ended up with only Phoebe and Glacia left anyway

[wide adder]

iirc last i saw trin was using SSBrendan?

or am i mistaken

[swift swan]

Glacia has lower offenses

[verbal karma]

That was for Sidney

[silver dirge]

Phoebe, and her right side, have much stonger moves than Glacia

And lower offenses

[wide adder]

ah, which one you been trying now then trin

[verbal karma]

R3 Phoebe

[swift swan]

Not saying Glacia's blizzard won't hurt tho

[silver dirge]

Yah but it's just blizzard on Glacia you gotta worry about, rest are pretty tame

[wide adder]

i mean the support (and also )

[calm marsh]

But Glacia still has physical move

So you can reset for that

[silver dirge]

Sides also just use Bubble/Ice Beam

[swift swan]

I suppose you can try Karen + support + flincher. No need for zone. So you can pick up no WTZ and remove some bulk

[verbal karma]

Oh, I am currently using Rosa as support (she has third highest Sp. Def out of my Sp. Atk buffing supports)

[wide adder]

og rosa doesnt have spdef buffs tho

[calm marsh]

Rosa doesn’t buff any SpDef

[swift swan]

Is there some better special support that you can use? Ss elesa for example, who can buff karen a bit faster?

[wide adder]

if youre taking this round on you want spatk+spdef buffs

[verbal karma]

I know, I never said that

[wide adder]

rather than higher base stat

[silver dirge]

Lower base stat + spDef buffs > high base stat

[verbal karma]

Oh

[swift swan]

At the rate you're going, Karen has to dire hit+ twice, snarl, and flinch. Her rotation is busy

[silver dirge]

You need to choose supports that actively solve your damage dealer's buffing like nov said ^

[calm marsh]

You should use sleep

[swift swan]

Do this with a better support that can fulfill Karen's offensive needs faster so Karen can focus on setting up devastation

[calm marsh]

Karen so busy that she need more turn to set up

[verbal karma]

Hmm...okay, hold on, gotta figure out if I ever have to use NC Rosa elsewhere

[calm marsh]

So buy time with sleep (most reliable one)

[wide adder]

if theyre not a LG player, i doubt theyre gonna enjoy sleep strats

[calm marsh]

Learn it and it becomes so much better

[verbal karma]

...hmm...I don't think I will use NC Rosa for R5? I think I can just use my Archie/May team for R5? I don't think they need NC Rosa?

[calm marsh]

It isn’t that hard to learn

[swift swan]

Then go ahead. The denials will be helpful

[silver dirge]

Does your NC Rosa have troublemaker? Otherwise you're dealing with 45 acc sing

[swift swan]

Doesn't NC Rosa give fighting rebuff or something? You certain she's not going to be occupied for Glacia?

[verbal karma]

and for R4...hmm...a team that has Bea and SSA Cynthia...that one doesn't need NC Rosa either, right?

[swift swan]

Ok this is good

[verbal karma]

That's what I am trying to figure out

[silver dirge]

Bea doesn't need rebuff on top of fighting zone

[calm marsh]

SSA Cynthia with Bea already destroy Glacia

[silver dirge]

the SMUNs + denials will help Karen here

[swift swan]

Bea, ssa cynthia, hilbert obliterate Glacia with ease

[wide adder]

should be a clear with Redlax 3rd slot or with an atk+speed buffer, either or, from my experience.

[verbal karma]

I don't have Redlax

[calm marsh]

Just anyone

[swift swan]

Atk and speed buffer then

For bea

Maylene, hilbert, whatever

[verbal karma]

I do have Hilbert, though, so that's nice

[calm marsh]

Def debuff, speed buffer or 2nd Support

[silver dirge]

Y'all we're throwing a lot of conflicting information at them, it can be overwhelming quickly. Let's slow down a little and focus on their team at hand

[wide adder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949078726228987954/1206194298584961065/image.png?ex=65db1efa&is=65c8a9fa&hm=074aa17712bcc7944d778ba4c5ed5aa5b0852a6d0a1763f4c3ac619f26629c49&

[verbal karma]

am on mobile

[formal vigil]

It's on mobile too

[swift swan]

Alright back to your Phoebe team

Does NC Rosa have troublemaker

[verbal karma]

I know, just saying it's easier for me to forget on mobile

since mobile doesn't have the no-ping reply shortcut

...why is pinging on by default anyway?

[wide adder]

cause of the way discord originally expected people to use the feature, probably. whatever way that is.

[calm marsh]

@verbal karma

[verbal karma]

I don't think so?

[calm marsh]

Give her

[keen jasper]

Mine has Adrenaline 1

[wide adder]

i personally use adrenaline on ncrosa rather than TM

cause quadqueue with her is near impossible

rather fix that glaring flaw than acc of a single move before we have LS lots

[formal vigil]

With Karen doesn't matter

[swift swan]

We want troublemaker here for more reliable denials

[calm marsh]

Really ? I find quad with her very consistent

[swift swan]

If Rosa doesn't have it, then you're looking at 45 accuracy sleep

[calm marsh]

But you only can quad with Tm

[calm marsh]

65%

[verbal karma]

my NC Rosa has Vigilance for survivability

[swift swan]

So your third unit would preferably have some sort of denial anyway

[calm marsh]

Her 1/5 grid already gives 2 +10Acc Sing

[wide adder]

yeah, true, just will be easier to fit in when we get those LS slots

[formal vigil]

Well they can't crit you if there sleeping

[wide adder]

Vigilance is barely needed outside of Gauntlet and very specific stages tbh, 5% crit is not much to be scared of

[swift swan]

I'm wondering if NC Rosa's rotation would be busy

Sing spam, but also need to bmove to buff

NC Rosa havers can enlighten me on this

[silver dirge]

Her rotations can in-fact be a little complex yes

[wide adder]

cant really say cause usually i just bmove twice or thrice then tm spam in the damage type i want to have +4-5 MUN post supp sync.

[calm marsh]

Her main job here is Sing so it isn’t that a big deal

[wide adder]

cause i mainly use her for her tm and passive

[swift swan]

But that still leaves Karen needing to take care of her own offensive buffs which we're trying to avoid

[calm marsh]

Rosa buff is random except crit

[wide adder]

i think youre still looking at a third either way to help with karens buffs

due to how rng heavy rosca is

[formal vigil]

Why not use someone like falkner?

[calm marsh]

So before Karen Sync you can B Move with her after 2 Sing

[swift swan]

Exactly :/

[calm marsh]

Do you like 60% flinch ?

[swift swan]

I'm thinking for Karen's first three moves, it can be DH+, TM, Snarl (grid for satisfied snarl to get -2 sp atk at least), sync

[formal vigil]

Well fine for me

[calm marsh]

4 move

Bc sleep

[formal vigil]

Plus Karen can flinch too

[swift swan]

Right, then she can squeeze either a TM or another snarl in

[silver dirge]

Alright to recap amongst the chaos there, are you willing to change vigilance to troublemaker on your NC Rosa or not? The denial becomes inconsistent if you don't want to, and I'm not going to argue the reasons for either LS, just asking if you're going to change?

[swift swan]

If both accuracy tiles are picked, it's a 65 accuracy Sing so the chances aren't that different from landing a flinch either way

[silver dirge]

Yeah, that's fair. It should be quite doable with both the flinch & sleep there

[swift swan]

So NC Rosa, Karen, and can we afford egg umbreon?

Or do you reckon a more reliable sp atk support for Karen

[silver dirge]

Karen can go +3 SpAtk in a turn right?

[swift swan]

Mhm

[silver dirge]

If you spend all 3 turns buffing though there's not a lot of room for denial

[swift swan]

She can go DH+, TM, Snarl, and sneak in a 4th move bcs of Sing denial

[silver dirge]

Ah true

Yeah okay, that should work, I feel egg umbreon will be nice there

Just gotta bank on the sing denial

[keen jasper]

Oh Jesus, now I'm struggling to 4k Phoebe

[swift swan]

So @verbal karma to conclude
Karen, NC Rosa, Egg Umbreon. No need to change Rosa's lucky skill. Try to deny as many moves as you can

For Karen's presync rotation, do DH+, TM, Snarl, and you should be able to get another TM as a 4th move because of Sing denial. As long as satisfied snarl is gridded you only need to use Snarl 3 times to max out Devastation. The only con would be having to take off a lot of params like no WTZ, no status, and no interference (though this last one is optional, you can probably afford turning it on

When syncing with Karen, make sure to queue the sync move while your move gauges are full so you can get the most out of Sync Power Flux

Keep in mind not to take any HP params. You can afford stacking attack params because NC Rosa will be denying them anyway

[keen jasper]

Can Cerena still brute force Phoebe?

[calm marsh]

3k ? Yes
4k ? idk

[silver dirge]

She'll need DPS help, but she can 4k off-type so she can 4k against sentry entry

Granted mine is 5/5

[calm marsh]

Just sleep them

[verbal karma]

...okay, gotta admit, NC Rosa sucks at turn denial

Not because of the sleep probability

But because of her form change passive taking way too damn long to make turn denial actually useful

[calm marsh]

Why you click B Move

[verbal karma]

wdym "why"

[calm marsh]

Only click it after 2 Sing

[verbal karma]

???

[swift swan]

Hmmm I don't have her so I can't say much, but just as a reminder in case you're not doing it:
Queue Sing as the last move in your queue so your other two moves can be prioritized

[calm marsh]

Do you know how to denial with Sleep ?

[keen jasper]

Ok wow, Cerena's sync only did half of Phoebe's HP, prolly because I have too much max HP params

[swift swan]

You don't need to use her Bmove too early. Use Sing to deny as many moves as possible. Karen will take care of her sp atk buffs by herself. You only need to Bmove once before Karen's sync (like Pykuo said, after two Sings) to max out Karen's crit buffs

[silver dirge]

Just be weary you're banking on two successful 45% chances to come through, so you're going to need to put up with the RNG there. Unless of course you change to trouble maker which becomes 90%

[verbal karma]

...wait, but that would mean having to use a Dire Hit + on Karen beforehand

since Bmove only raises crit by 1

[silver dirge]

Please read nov's detailed breakdown here

[verbal karma]

...oh...I forgot to change to Eggmon Umbreon

[silver dirge]

Make sure you read beyond the first line there & incorporate all of the advice

[verbal karma]

Hmm...not sure if using Karen's TM and Dire Hit+ before her first sync would be a good idea...

That's two Snarls less that could have been used to further boost Devestation

[calm marsh]

Note that this was round 1 so Sync deal way less dmg than R3

[silver dirge]

Try it first, you've still got the 2nd sync

[lean lion]

I got 12k with these teams. Please help optimize further.

2k Phoebe - Can do better. Brought Hop for max def or sync was one shotting Cerena and Karen. Will it be better to ditch Karen and off type with Cerena?

3k Glacia - easy

2.5k Drake - Can definitely get 3k, 2.5k was very easy.

1.5k Sidney - gave me the most problems, too tanky does way too much damage. Not sure which Round to fight him on.

3k Steven - easy

[keen jasper]

I guess I don't have a choice, I'm gonna sleep cheese Phoebe

[swift swan]

What move level is Cerena? I think either works. Do you have egg Umbreon? Also, you'd want to presync Hoenn most of the time considering they have genuinely scary multipliers

Same question with Blue, what move level is he? Is he gridded for nuke and has brutal clarity for Hurricane spam afterwards?

[wide adder]

Looking at options for next week and uhhh… steel having sentry concerns me on 3k

Will I prob end up needing to resort to offtype for it or do we think Solgaleo’s gonna be able to brute force sentry x2

[keen jasper]

Damn, I can't believe sleep cheese worked on Phoebe

[lean lion]

Cerena is 1/5, no egg Umbreon, Blue is 2/5. That's the problem tho, they feel too tanky to pre-sync

[wide adder]

Could always toxic stall Sydney or something

Probably

Also just noticed dragon and ground overlapping so uhhh, leaning towards this for my ground team and Serena Raihan +1 for dragon, although I can also prob do something else with raihan for dragon if Serena would be a big difference… kinda wanna try Courtney’s nuke tho at same time hmmm

[swift swan]

You can probably just keep Cerena for the rebuff then. Instead of Hop you can try someone to help buff Karen's sp atk so you can deal damage faster. What move level is Karen? Grid her for nuke grid if she's 3/5

[formal vigil]

Karen 2/5

[lean lion]

Yeah 2/5

[swift swan]

2/5 Blue still has good DPS, I'd still give him a try with a secondary damage dealer perhaps? If gauge allows

[lean lion]

Should I send my flying roster?

I need the def buffs from Hop and he maxes Karen's crit while Karen can 2 TM then Snarl once for sp atk debuff

[swift swan]

If they're too tanky to presync, switching to postsync will only add more bulk and you'll have to worry about team survivability on top of dealing damage. Go for presync params, give as little bulk as you can afford, and utilize things like flinches and sleep to deny strong moves

[lean lion]

Okay

[swift swan]

Sure. Or your sync pair tracker would help

[lean lion]

I haven't added all my pairs to it yet. But I'll do that today for situations like this in the future

Also what order should I do the fights in? I was thinking about moving Blue to R2 and Bea to R4.

[swift swan]

It's only R1 and R3 that really matter

The other two are kinda free

[swift swan]

Hmmm. Kahili can probably help? Sync first with Blue, second sync with Kahili. Grid for nuke tiles and critical eye. This does mean you have to take off both phys and spec dmg reduction but I'm hoping Hurricane will help clear the sides while Kahili nukes mid

In the same vein, Lodge Serena (as long as you give her candies or buy her dupes). But i think her multipliers take longer to set up

[lean lion]

Who should i replace between Skyla and Elysa?

[swift swan]

Skyla

You want Elesa to help ramp up Blue

Get as much accuracy buffs to Blue as possible

[lean lion]

Idk if Elysa can take the hits honestly

[swift swan]

Grid for brutal clarity and spam Hurricane

[swift swan]

Mhm, she's a dodge tank and an offensive support

I'm afraid the nature of presync is like that

This already gives you around 2k

If the attack feels too much, feel free to replace with lower strength

I'm just trying not to inflate the HP as much as possible currently

[lean lion]

Alright let me give it a try

Will try R2

[lean lion]

Got 3k with Red R1

[lean lion]

Nov it became a lot more manageable. Even without adding 2nd damage dealer. With Elysa TM mpr I can presync. Is there anything else I can add for some more pts?

Maybe I can replace Skyla with Melony and keep denying moves even after mid is dead?

Added Phys dmg reduction now at 2150

[lean lion]

Used str 1 and 2 + Phys red. Got 2450!

[keen jasper]

Holy damn, finally did my 4k pts. run

[peak stirrup]

Are there any dark special attackers besides nc Marnie and SS Cyrus?

[keen jasper]

Karen

Also Summer N if you have him

[lean lion]

Got 14k for the first time!! Could have been 15k if Phoebe wasn't Sentry Entry. Will probably still try to get 3k on Sidney and 14.5k total. Thanks so much, Nov! Your suggestions helped a lot for Sidney and Phoebe.

[silver dirge]

Incredible, well done! Your progress in the last few weeks has been very impressive

[lean lion]

3/5 Karen would help soo much

Phoebe is pretty much impossible to 3k I feel

[silver dirge]

It'll definitely be possible with 3/5 Karen, at 2/5 she's lacking some critical multipliers

[lean lion]

Thanks :))

It's honestly because of the helpers. I learned so much by being on the server. And everyone is always willing to help.

[silver dirge]

That's what we aim for, very pleasing to hear

[lean lion]

Will try Nov's dual damage dealer idea against Sidney later for 3k but I'm already happy with this week's result

[swift swan]

Amazing job! What move level is Melony? Iirc she has precision pals on grid to help Blue with accuracy buffs too, plus she's a better tank, so you can definitely replace Elesa with her

[lean lion]

Only 1/5. I have Troublemaker LS and Sing accuracy on grid.

[swift swan]

So you can add more strength and dual strike

Mmm I see

Yeah then I guess ss elesa with dual striking can do the trick

[lean lion]

I should go with Kahili right?

[swift swan]

Because her setup is easy, mhm. Lodge serena is another option, but her nuke is harder to setup

[lean lion]

Right
Okay gonna take a break but will try later tonight. I'll be very happy if I can 3k this.

[swift swan]

You're already doing great!

[lean lion]

Btw its kinda OP if Elysa can get a couple TM mprs

[swift swan]

Her TM is so good

[lean lion]

I was able to sync hurricane sync

[silver dirge]

Do you have HS1 on Elesa? It's a full turn skip with HS1 + TM

[lean lion]

Won't she need Vigilance if tanking?

[swift swan]

Usually I like to fish for 1 TM MPR at the beginning. So Breathtaking on Blue once before he syncs, then another one on him after his sync

[silver dirge]

Nah, crits are rare and something you can reset for if you're unlucky

[swift swan]

Not many CS stages raise their crit and crit chance at 0 crit is low

[silver dirge]

I don't run Vigilance on my tanks outside of like UBs where it's really necessary

[lean lion]

Yes this is how I did it. Queued 2nd TM right after Blue sync.

[old orchid]

plus, switching lucky skill is going to be a thing

[swift swan]

Bad news, HS1 is usually hard to acquire. Good news, you can get 3 guaranteed HS1 cookies this LG

[old orchid]

best mode if not counting BR

[lean lion]

I have those

[silver dirge]

Oh no the LG propagandists are here, time for me to dip

[swift swan]

Elesa is definitely a great candidate for HS1

[lean lion]

I'm kinda hesitant to use the special cookie tho

If it doesn't work and I need Vigilance back

[silver dirge]

I cannot wait for this

[silver dirge]

That's okay, if you're low on cookies you can always just save for when it's necessary

If you've got time you can farm those deluxe cookies from LG

[calm marsh]

Battle Rally > CS > HS > LG ||> Battle Villa||

[lean lion]

I got the 10 streak and have been resetting to farm but deluxe is a very rare drop

[calm marsh]

[swift swan]

Yeah, farming 3* deluxe sucks

[silver dirge]

Wait I didn't know you were based like that, so true

[lean lion]

So should I HS1 Elysa or maybe try with Vigilance first?

[swift swan]

Vigilance first if you're unsure

Hopefully that lucky skill presets come soon

[sharp willow]

you guys ever forget to switch the damage reduction parameters around between rounds

because thats me rn

[silver dirge]

Just make the sets from scratch everytime

[sharp willow]

yeah i usually do but was like "nah the phoebe parameters i used should work fine"

they really didnt

[silver dirge]

I think my theme for this week might be 'the wrong type of damage reduction'

Could miserably fail but hey doesn't hurt to try

[sharp willow]

anyway lets see how much damage darach can do with like, the right params

[swift swan]

I'm glad we can agree on something

[silver dirge]

That would be a first! how momentous

[rain turret]

another medal done

[keen jasper]

Now time to suffer

[lime willow]

Is it just me or is phoebe weirdly tanky this week

Was using sczinnia + sscyrus and they weren’t really hitting as hard as usual

[old orchid]

Phoebe has Sentry Entry x2

i recommend taking a look at the pins, Arch made a nicely summary of every weekly stage

[main crow]

SS Cyrus alone should be sufficient enough

[wicked junco]

SSCyrus and Karen did quick work of her for me

[peak stirrup]

Welp looks like I’m breaking out the toxic stall twice this week

[rotund lagoon]

[silver dirge]

No shame in poison stall

[lime willow]

Doesn’t that increase def stat, wouldn’t zinnia just rob the stat boost?

Also it was still very doable I just had to change params a bit

[sharp willow]

its a multiplier to the stat directly, not a stat stage increase

there is outright no way to bypass it, you just either deal with it or you ignore it by using the other type of attacks

[left storm]

Remember, when in doubt, 1/5 sslyra can always carry any 3k stage clear

[tulip python]

Man I got super close with Aura Cynthia, Bea, and the sword goat and MC

That accursed blizzard

[tulip python]

I used that to clear flying stage lol

More consistent trapping and flinch haha

There has to be a better compliment to bea and Cynthia than the goat

Probably needs a speed buffer or an AoE debuff

[old orchid]

Bea really appreciates atk and speed support

Maylene can do both buffing and debuffing when properly gridded

[dense birch]

Hello, wanted to get some planning ideas for next week’s CSMM. Is it advisable to EX Guzma, or should I try and off type or something?

Also not sure if it’s advisable to pstall steven since he can apply enduring to himself. I could try the psychic comp (caitlin sync) to see if it works, i was able to beat this week’s Phoebe with that comp

Could do brock or colress for sidney team. Colress will have aoe def down to potentially help with guzma sync nuke if i EX guzma perhaps

Just unsure about EX-ing guzma because he seems to be quite low on the tier list. But my boi is 3/5 so might be alright

[formal vigil]

If you wanna on type bug better to use burgh levanny if you have him 3/5 otherwise off type

Also for glacia do note she has sentry entryx2 so has high base defence so special attackers are better but of you don't have any special steel types solgaleo might work still

[dense birch]

Yeah using solgaleo purely because i don’t have special steel type

My burgh is 1/5 i think

Probably offtype it is then

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Better not to EX Guzma right now

[keen jasper]

Bug-weak Sidney sets up dark zone before his sync, so you have to replace it if you're going to pre-sync him

[dense birch]

I’m not using any zones i think, but i’m just wondering if the comp is able to presync him without setting up my own zone

[keen jasper]

Don't think so

[dense birch]

It’s why i was thinking of ex-ing guzma, since he is a strike ex

[keen jasper]

Do you have other bug damage dealers?

[dense birch]

2/5 lusamine and 1/5 burgh lol

[keen jasper]

Yikes

[dense birch]

Yikes indeed. I could try something like: Hilbert, Gordie, SS Red sun sync nuke comp

Since he doesn’t have any wise or sentry entry

[keen jasper]

Well, if Sidney gets to set up dark zone, then you're kinda in trouble

[dense birch]

He sets it up before he syncs right? So the aim is to kill him before he syncs

[old orchid]

you can replace his with another zone

[dense birch]

I’m wondering if that comp can get through 25k HP

[old orchid]

or Defog it away

[keen jasper]

Will you be able to output enough damage before it happens?

[dense birch]

Yeah that’s what i’m trying to figure out haha

[keen jasper]

Especially that you need 3k pts. for each stage now

[dense birch]

Oh i’m aiming for 2.5k

[keen jasper]

I suppose you can look at guides on YT

[dark osprey]

For bug there's the Nolan plus bugsy combo that needs some investment but less than EX Guzma

[manic kiln]

yeah nolan bugsy is always a great combo for f2p clear

[dense birch]

Oh sweet, ima check it out then

Bugsy/scyther?

[old orchid]

Bugsy/Beedrill

he nukes harder than Guzma

[dense birch]

Oh woops. Beedrill. I have both at 5/5. So i guess it’s just largely sync orb investment then. Unless i have to EX bugsy too

[old orchid]

Bugsy doesnt have EX atm

[dense birch]

Ok. Since i expect i am syncing with bugsy instead of noland, then that means i won’t require EX investment in that case

I’ll see if i can find out more about the comp

Ok i got some questions about the comp, but it’s not CS specific i guess. So i will move to #poma-questions

[silver dirge]

If it's carrying on from something here and is about teambuilding, that's okay

[dense birch]

Oh. I already asked on questions channel, all good i’ll keep it there this time, and keep in mind for next time

[silver dirge]

No big deal

[manic mica]

Is Karen and Houndoom usable 2/5?

and is she worth EXing?

for Dark Weak Phoebe

[zealous karma]

she gets sync power flux overpower on DP and aggravation it may be possible to clear if you can support her well

I would try without ex and see how far you go

just make sure you sync first with karen to unlock dp

[zealous karma]

Replying since this was a while ago

[manic mica]

ah okay

thank you!

dp is dark pulse right?

[zealous karma]

ye

[sharp willow]

yes

[manic mica]

oki thank u!

[manic mica]

So not worth getting Toxic Chance?

[zealous karma]

not really

[manic mica]

oki

[zealous karma]

this is also a budget build

[manic mica]

budget build?

[zealous karma]

So you dont use too many sync orbs assuming you are a new player, sync orbs can be hard to come by

[manic mica]

ah

I have over 50k Sync Orbs 😎

[zealous karma]

o

[manic mica]

but its all good lol

imma go to sleep and grid Karen in the morning, night

[proud axle]

I really should've realized this sooner. Lodge Gladion's one flaw is a lack of gauge support, so put him in with two members who self-buff Speed. And then he can Haze off Glacia's entry def buffs and leave her exposed for Hop to shatter. Free +100pts from giving the enemy the +3 omni buff, too!

[dark osprey]

He's a good candidate to EX as well and gains catalyst on grid too

[proud axle]

I EX all my Supports as a policy. I just wasn't sure where I could fit him into a team until this turned out to be ridiculously perfect for him

Had exactly enough bulk to survive two shots and then First Aid plus Sychro Healing put him back above half, back in the fight with a vengeance

[dark osprey]

True that. I love safety tether on the non 5* supports which make them perfect for surviving CS presync. Just need to know if the grid accommodates all this together now

[manic mica]

So I know its good to sync with Karen early to unlock Dark Pulse
But would it be best to prioritise a support EX and then Karen or Karen first?
(For Phoebe)

[formal vigil]

It's is better to sync Karen first otherwise she has no dps

[manic mica]

Even if the support has sprint EXR?

[left storm]

Yeah it's not worth

Unless you're using something like NC Rosa who can stagger opp sync with sleep

[manic mica]

I am using NC Rosa

NC Rosa, Penny and Karen

[old orchid]

do you have egg Umbreon or other Dark Zone setters

[formal vigil]

Why use both penny and nc rosa ?

[old orchid]

i know you want Penny there for spdef debuff but Dark Zone boost is straight up better in every circumstance

[manic mica]

I have Dark Egg Eevee, I can evolve it

Im gonna grid up Karen too

She's 2/5

[old orchid]

2/5 Karen is not really good

but with heavy supports you can make her work

[manic mica]

Well she's better than using Nanu

[old orchid]

remember to save a Dark Zone after Phoebe's Ghost Wish

Phoebe has Sentry Entry x2 anyway, Nanu is not good here

[manic mica]

between her Ghost Wish and sync?

[manic mica]

Ah Sentry Entry x2, I knew there was a reason I grabbed Karen

[formal vigil]

Pheobe uses ghost wish before she sync yes

[manic mica]

Should I not use the Interference Immunity parameter with her?

[old orchid]

you already have sleep

and sleep overrides flinch

so you should turn it on

[manic mica]

turn on Interference Immunity? Wouldn't that stop flinch and sleep?

[old orchid]

only flinch, confused and trap

Status Immunity is the one prevents sleep

[manic mica]

oh

Sleep is a status

I see

thank u

[charred linden]

so guys its my first time attempting champion stadium any tips?

its the hard mode not the one with the points yet

[old orchid]

Can you show your roster by using tracker site? Be sure to watch the tutorial and input correct move level on every pair, especially 5 star ones

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[charred linden]

ok

[charred linden]

@old orchid i might have missed a few

[old orchid]

Alright, that looks good

Im going to recommend 1 dmg dealer for each stage. Your job is planning remaining 2 units on each team to help the dmg dealer and answer stage's gimmicks

[charred linden]

yeah

so just go on type right

and just get a half decent supp right

lv 100 for them or lv120?

ik dmg dealers at 120