Champion Stadium

[crystal notch]

wait no

[mellow linden]

Nothing seems problematic with parameters at a glance, but I’d recommend replacing Hop with a gauge Support like Skyla since Rose (and Solgaleo, at least to an extent) is very gauge-hungry

[crystal notch]

bertha has Wise Entry doesn't she

[mellow linden]

Sides have WEx3 for Steel weak Bertha

[crystal notch]

yeah sounds about right

[mellow linden]

Center has no Entry x2 or x3 passive

[crystal notch]

don't use special dealers

[rain turret]

oh ok

[fiery canopy]

waaaaaaaah

fuck life

[nocturne pawn]

well theres literally like 2

and tbh

both can just brute force past it anyway

[manic mica]

How on earth do you beat Flint? My team for this was Elio, Sygna Suit Grimsley, and Nessa.

[mellow linden]

You don't need to run a monotype team, replace Elio with a Support who can reliably and quickly max the team's Attack and crit and replace either SS Grimsley or Nessa (Nessa's the better pick to keep around if SS Grimsley isn't 3/5 and gridded, otherwise it's down to favoritism) with a Rain setter

Always focus on team synergy first and foremost, a monotype team with poor synergy won't outperform a multi-type team that has good synergy

[sick inlet]

I mean, CS to unlock all medals already kind of tells you to not depend on monoteams

[mellow linden]

That too, yeah

If you haven't completed the type medal then try to shoot for doing that (if this is your 1st week of Sinnoh CS then try to include 9-12 unique types, as in the type of the Sync Move, across your 5 teams)

[manic mica]

One problem with the Rain: The only Rain Setter I have is Winona that I have never used!

[mellow linden]

Winona is a good Rain setter

[crystal notch]

also flinch haxx

[mellow linden]

And a fairly good Sync Pair in general

Don't ignore your 3- and 4-stars, they generally range from decent to amazing

Level 120 is cheap and sufficient for CS

[manic mica]

I haven’t even leveled up Winona yet.

[mellow linden]

Hence my comment about level 120

[manic mica]

And even if I did, she would only be at Lvl 70.

[mellow linden]

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[sick inlet]

I mean technically speaking she shouldn't be tanking, might still work
Flinch + Rain is all you want from her idealistically

[manic mica]

Hard.

[mellow linden]

Then while far from ideal, she might still work

[brave halo]

So who's all good to pair off with nemona for next week? Preferably not sstred

[mellow linden]

Ideally she won't be taking hits until her job is done and a win is basically assured

[sick inlet]

Who's next week

This week just started

[nocturne pawn]

hoenn

[mellow linden]

Electric Terrain + an appropriate Support (a good tank if not planning to Sync with Nemona 1st, an Attack + crit Support if you do plan to Sync with Nemona 1st). Make sure to have some form of Paralysis (like Volkner, who'd also cover Electric Terrain) for Electric weak Phoebe since she has Healthy Advantage

[nocturne pawn]

which is

probably worse than sinnoh tbh

cuz 3k forces more offensive parameters and hoenn does not hold back

[mellow linden]

Eh, outside of a couple outliers I'd say it's slightly easier than Sinnoh

Not by much, but slightly

[manic mica]

Who else should I use for this battle, besides Winona?

[nocturne pawn]

i mean honestly my problem is getting my tank to survive so my sync isnt fucked up

[brave halo]

So maybe Nemona, Volkner, and CBlue?

[nocturne pawn]

the gimmicks arent bad (except bug weak) if you just full speed but you need the support to actually live

[mellow linden]

If you refuse to use Winona then a Defense debuffer like Nanu or Kukui or just a filler Sync Pair for type medal purposes will work

[sick inlet]

I would say they're harder, it's just when we got them we were already getting used to Sinnoh which made them feel less tormenting?
We will see the struggles next month

[mellow linden]

I doubt you'll need NC Blue and you might even want to save him for a different team due to his immense power at boosting special damage-dealers

[nocturne pawn]

yeah no glacia is just an absolute miserable experience in general

[manic mica]

I do have Winona, but who should I use alongside her?

[nocturne pawn]

even on 2.5k she was hard

[mellow linden]

I already explained the team structure

[brave halo]

All the others look pretty simple to build around due to typings

[mellow linden]

Right here

[nocturne pawn]

at least i have raihan so i can just

lmao

at her glalie

actually

she probably wont suck anymore

cuz ny wallace is fair and balanced™️

[sick inlet]

Highly Recommend Reading moment

[nocturne pawn]

seriously he absolutely shredded aaron last week

[mellow linden]

Poison stall time when Steel weak Glacia rolls back around

[brave halo]

What about rose, lodge dawn, and colress for that?

[nocturne pawn]

your gauge is fucking ass with that team

[mellow linden]

Steel weak Glacia has Sentry Entry x2

[nocturne pawn]

all 3 of them are slow

[brave halo]

Screech

[mellow linden]

Doesn't stop doubled base Defense

[nocturne pawn]

does he even have charging infliction

[mellow linden]

Colress? Yeah, iirc he has it in grid

[nocturne pawn]

cuz without it hes not even gonna be net neutral

[sick inlet]

Yuppie

[nocturne pawn]

ok that makes it slightly better

but i dont understand ldawn

[brave halo]

Freebie when using status

[nocturne pawn]

she does nothing to help the team

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah she has Sp Atk

[mellow linden]

But yeah, physical Steel without Zone is gonna be a bit of a challenge against Steel weak Glacia and at that point I'd personally recommend off-typing or Poison stalling

[brave halo]

Speed and spdef buffs and struggle bug

[nocturne pawn]

you would probably have much more success with a speed buffer

[nocturne pawn]

uh?

hold on

[mellow linden]

Tbf Lodge Dawn does buff Speed

[cinder summit]

Dawn & Wormadam

‎ Type: ‎　‎　Weak:

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 631
ATK: 177 | DEF: 221
SPA: 193 | SPD: 251
SPE: 245

Acquisition:

Trainer Lodge

Alternates:

Dawn & Torterra
Sygna Suit Dawn & Cresselia
Dawn (Palentine's 2021) & Alcremie
Dawn (New Year's 2023) & Oricorio

Sync Grid Recommendations:

Tank Support (3/5)
‎　+ Satisfied Snicker / Vigilance
‎　+ Satisfied Snicker / Shielded

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(if not picked on grid)

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[nocturne pawn]

yeah i forgot

but 245…

[manic mica]

Welp, Winona didn’t help. Magmortar’s too tough.

[rotund lagoon]

Still, she doesn’t work with Rose anyway. Use your Raihan, dude.

[nocturne pawn]

wh

they have raihan?

[rotund lagoon]

Pretty sure Speed mentioned it yesterday.

[mellow linden]

What's the final team you ended up with and did you focus down the center opponent first?

[nocturne pawn]

then there is absolutely no reason to use rose

[brave halo]

I have raihan but like, aoe sides

[nocturne pawn]

especially considering hes throwing himself against doubled defense

[rotund lagoon]

Raihan should have no issues with that, my guy

[nocturne pawn]

he has an aoe sync

and like

[mellow linden]

Raihan would have no issues KOing Steel weak Glacia

[nocturne pawn]

if you are good with targeting you’ll be fine

[rotund lagoon]

I have 1/5 Raihan, I will test him for this if I have to

[manic mica]

I tried focusing on Magmortar first, and my team did include Winona and Nessa, but even then, they weren’t enough.

[nocturne pawn]

like i can literally do it next week and i guarantee you its not that bad

[brave halo]

Tho would also mean you would need to swap colress for someone if using raihan

[nocturne pawn]

granted mine is 5/5

[mellow linden]

Who was the Support and did you consistently triple queue?

[nocturne pawn]

but that shouldnt be an issue

[rotund lagoon]

Correct

[nocturne pawn]

lucian

is actually really good

[manic mica]

Triple Queue?

[mellow linden]

+triplequeue

[frozen depot]

In Pokemon Masters, the battles revolve around using your Sync Move as fast as possible.
Using moves will reduce its cooldown, which is also the case for the opponent!
This is why you always want all your pairs on the field to have moves queue'd.
Have 3 ally moves in between each 1 enemy move, even at the start!
After 9 moves, you can wait to queue your Sync.

See this quick footage for how to Triple Queue :
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928038965129392151/1126108077519802378/5www4z.mp4

For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[nocturne pawn]

team speed buffs drops spdef and if 3/5 he has charging infliction

[mellow linden]

As for the Support you were using, that would have been?

[nocturne pawn]

aka unironically one of the best gauge batteries and one of the better supportive techs overall

they really overloaded his kit for a gen pool

[crystal notch]

If only I could fish a copy of colress

[rotund lagoon]

Don’t jinx it

[nocturne pawn]

not to mention he has a good nuke from base

[crystal notch]

Instead of getting Hugh again and again

[nocturne pawn]

i mean

riley

hes free

also very good

[rotund lagoon]

OK TRUE

[brave halo]

OK maybe im being crazy but you could try sshilbert for the raihan lodge dawn team cause metal sound aoe

[nocturne pawn]

just use lucian

[rotund lagoon]

Bruh Lucian is better

[nocturne pawn]

like

ss hilbert isnt doing much

[mellow linden]

Is there a reason you don't want to use Lucian or something?

[nocturne pawn]

and using him for exclusively metal sound is a waste

[rotund lagoon]

Also where is SS Hilbert’s Metal Sound AoE?

[nocturne pawn]

3/5

[brave halo]

Grid

[rotund lagoon]

cries in 1/5

But also ew don’t lower him to that sort of use

[mellow linden]

Raihan + Lucian + appropriate Support should murderize Steel weak Glacia

[brave halo]

I'm not hating lucian, just looking for more options just in case

[nocturne pawn]

yeah thats what i said

its the same vibe as using oleana to poison stall

[mellow linden]

You can cross that bridge when you get to it instead

[nocturne pawn]

when she just

[rotund lagoon]

Unfortunately, Sp Df debuffers are very minimal in gen pool

[nocturne pawn]

kills

lmfao

[rotund lagoon]

Lenora is not a bad choice either tho

[steel kelp]

Dena hates giving sp def debuffers

[mellow linden]

When your immediate response to a suggestion is to suggest someone else it makes it look like you're disregarding our suggestions

[steel kelp]

Here take another leer unit

[rotund lagoon]

Df and Sp Df tho, is honestly not bad

I like it, gives Lenora more team flexibility

[brave halo]

Wasn't trying to do that

[rotund lagoon]

Even if you weren’t, that’s how we see it…please be more considerate.

[nocturne pawn]

right i did actually forget her

but she doesnt have speed buffs iirc

[steel kelp]

I don’t have her

[manic mica]

Might be Winona, Might be Elio.

[mellow linden]

Just something to keep in mind for the future, if you're just ensuring back-pocket options it's helpful to do it in addition to acknowledging what's been mentioned

[cinder summit]

Lenora & Watchog

<:GRID_SYNC:967786997982830712> __Sync Tiles:__

(3) Museum Director Normal Impact: Power +25
(3) Museum Director Normal Impact: Power +25

<:GRID_MOVE:967786997265629195> __Move Tiles:__

(2) Facade: Fleet Feet 1 - Raises the user's Speed by 1 stat rank when its move is successful.
(2) Facade: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) Leer: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) Research Time!: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(2) X Sp. Def All: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.

‎

(3) Facade: Staggering 2 - Has a chance (30%) of making the target flinch when the user's attack move against it is successful.
(3) Research Time!: Group Therapy - Removes all status conditions from all allied sync pairs when a move is successful.
(3) Research Time!: Master Healer 1 - Increases the amount of HP restored by the user's healing moves.

<:GRID_PASSIVE:967786997215264808> __Passive Tiles:__

(1) Stalwart - Sp. Def cannot be lowered.

‎

(2) Quick Cure - Removes the confused, flinching, and trapped conditions from the user the first time they are inflicted each battle.
(2) Survivor Mentality 2 - Reduces damage when the user is hit by a special attack move while it is in a pinch.
(2) Sync Regen - Applies the Gradual Healing effect to the user after using its sync move.
(2) Unflappable - Prevents the user from flinching.

‎

(3) Hit: Team Attack ↑ 9 - Raises the Attack of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank when the user's attack move is successful.
(3) Hit: Team Sp. Atk ↑ 9 - Raises the Sp. Atk of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank when the user's attack move is successful.
(3) Rejuvenate 6 - Charges the user's move gauge by 6 after using a sync move.
(3) Safety Tether - Applies the Enduring effect to the user the first time its sync move is used each battle.
(3) Team Sharp Entry 1 - Raises the critical-hit rate of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank when the user enters a battle.

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[rotund lagoon]

Only on herself by grid from Facade

[steel kelp]

Oh

[rotund lagoon]

Which is…..ew.

[mellow linden]

I told you to replace Elio as the Support with someone who can reliably and quickly max the team's Attack and crit. Also Winona is not a Support

[nocturne pawn]

yeah you’re never using facade

if only it was dashing team

[manic mica]

Does Sabrina work?

[mellow linden]

Sabrina does not buff Attack

[rotund lagoon]

He said Atk, not Sp Atk

[nocturne pawn]

not an attack buffer

[steel kelp]

Are you using the filters

[mellow linden]

Nessa needs to be spending as few turns setting up as possible. If your Support can't get the team to at least +4 Attack and +3 crit by your 1st Sync (so 3 actions from that Support) then you should be strongly considering a different Support

[rotund lagoon]

We can name 3 free options that can buff what Cobalt is saying.

You just need to find them.

[nocturne pawn]

shauna (ideal if the others are not 3/5+) sonia and hilbert with grid

[mellow linden]

In an absolute emergency Nessa can spend 1 turn using her Trainer Move, but if any more turns on her Trainer Move are required than that then you need a different Support

[nocturne pawn]

uh

i think leaf too?

or no

[rotund lagoon]

HOP

[steel kelp]

Hop doko

[nocturne pawn]

oh

that goes to show i havent used him in ages

[steel kelp]

Same

Who needs him when I have sonia

[nocturne pawn]

well tbh shauna has sync burst

so she is the ideal option if hilbert and sonia arent 3/5

[rotund lagoon]

No Speed

[nocturne pawn]

the annoying thing is that they’re all weaker on the special side

which is uh

kinda awkward

[mellow linden]

It's Hard Mode, it should be fine

[nocturne pawn]

oh

ok

[rotund lagoon]

Anyway, any of those options listed should work ^^;

[manic mica]

Sonia, Lana, and Hilbert are the only three I got who boost Atk.

[rotund lagoon]

Wait where’s Hop?

[nocturne pawn]

did you not do legendary adventures

[mellow linden]

Have you done Legendary Adventures yet?

[nocturne pawn]

if you disnt

do those

now

8 good free pairs and all have good type coverage for cs medals

[mellow linden]

+legexchange for reference

[frozen depot]

When completing a Legendary Adventure in the Main Story section, you will be awarded a sync pair, 4 vouchers and 20 power-ups (usable on that pair only)

• Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
• DO NOT TRADE the power-ups, use all 20 on the unlocked pair (in upgrade > potential tab)
  https://i.imgur.com/gGHPQjd.png
  For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[mellow linden]

Anyway, there's still other options for Attack + crit Supports, such as Maylene or if need be MC + Torchic

Some may require Nessa to use 1 turn on her Trainer Move, but that's acceptable if need be

[verbal karma]

CS finally beaten...

Just in time for Rally Battles tomorrow

[mellow linden]

Battle Rally is 31st

So 2 days

[frozen fossil]

I'm trying to do Bertha on Round 2. These are my only Steel-types.
I'm a new player, so I don't have Solgaleo's AOE Sync move yet. Is it still feasible to handle her? If so, what strategy should I use?

[mellow linden]

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[frozen fossil]

Master Mode. Sorry, should have specified.

[mellow linden]

May want to consider off-typing or Poison stall unless you’re on a low point value, then

[crystal notch]

KGrimsley can't do it?

[rotund lagoon]

[crystal notch]

Oh

Glacia steel weak?

[mellow linden]

Nah, Bertha is Wise Entry x3 on the sides and no Entry on center

I just blanked out on K. Grimsley, lol

[rotund lagoon]

OH OOP I MIXED UP WHICH WE WERE ON

[crystal notch]

Lmao I was just??? Bertha WE??? So are we talking about Glacia?

[mellow linden]

@frozen fossil K. Grimsley is probably fine, my bad

[frozen fossil]

What would a feasible strategy with him be? Should he be my only damage dealer? If so, can I defeat her before Rhyperior gets off its Sync Move?

[mellow linden]

Depending on point value you might have to abuse Metal Burst to pre-Sync, otherwise solo damage-dealer with a proper team should work out

If not abusing Metal Burst then ignore his Trainer Move and use an Attack + crit Support

[fiery canopy]

STILL havent beaten bertha

[mellow linden]

Can try off-type or Poison stall, maybe

[fiery canopy]

tried ss acerola/adaman/ss erika offtype, did Not work

[mellow linden]

What parameters?

That sounds like a team that should have easily off-typed

[fiery canopy]

poison stall....mmmmmeh
guess ill give it a shot
oh hold on lemme screenshot

[zealous karma]

You mean that’s not common

[fiery canopy]

actually i think i used bad params
lemme switch em up and try again

wheres the guide again

[zealous karma]

Almost everything will be in pins for anything

[nocturne pawn]

for 4.5 we should just skip straight to 5k

[zealous karma]

How about no

[nocturne pawn]

yes

i mean with new parameters and that kind of stuff

like no ex effect could actually be an interesting one

[zealous karma]

That should just be a normal thing in the game

[rich needle]

Ew

I need my support ex

[zealous karma]

It makes it easier for helping others with teams as well as not needing to make alts for minimum investment gauntlet clears

[rich needle]

Also that locks so many units from being able to do clears

Exs are seriously powerful to just toss aside for 200 points

[zealous karma]

I think you underestimate the power level of a lot of units lel

Sure it makes or break some units but

[rich needle]

I think you expect me to use modern units

I’m still using regular blue over here

[zealous karma]

I don’t use them either

Well if that’s by 2024 standards

[rich needle]

Without the aoe from his sync sides kinda wreck the shit outta the team

I’m post sync only btw

[zealous karma]

I’ve post synced with blue in the past for 2.5K against Lucian

[rich needle]

I do it these days

It’s not hard enough that I’d throw in a modern support

But it’s also not easy enough I’d confidently toss out both the support ex and the strike ex

Honestly if that happened I’d have to perfect flinch like 2 times extra, assuming perfect turn denial

[zealous karma]

Well that’s the point in it being a toggleavle action and not being a permanent thing

[nocturne pawn]

was this before expansion

[zealous karma]

Ye

[nocturne pawn]

cuz blue did 3k pre sync pretty damn easily

[rich needle]

Presync ew

[zealous karma]

This was like maybe a year ago

[rich needle]

[nocturne pawn]

yeah then that makes sense cuz his sync was dogass

but now he absolutely destroys

[zealous karma]

But I just think the ex effect/power up effect should be something we can revert as a normal option just so it’s easier ti help people who doesn’t have as much investment as you to see if a clears actually possible or like I said before doing minimal investment gauntlet runs

[nocturne pawn]

true

[somber bay]

What parameters should I start out with?

I just unlocked master mode today

[dark osprey]

Can try the 850 pts ones in the pins of the channel

[fiery canopy]

i am not beating this weeks cs in time

[toxic cobalt]

It's day 2 😭

have faith

[rich needle]

isnt it day 1

[fiery canopy]

what
isnt refresh on monday

[trail smelt]

Yeah day 1

It’s monday already yeah

[fiery canopy]

I THOUGHT TODAY WAS SUNDAY LOL OOPS

[trail smelt]

… how

[fiery canopy]

brain dont work

[rain turret]

bertha is finally down
used colress rose and nc rosa
had to try a few times with luck on flinches

[blazing narwhal]

Didn’t we have steel weak Bertha already last week

[paper summit]

no

it was the week before

[keen jasper]

Would it be dumb to say that Gloria is the most perfect unit for steel-weak Bertha?

Because of Bertha having HS1?

[lean lion]

3k Cynthia run. Bea is unexpectedly good.

[wide adder]

Still rather presync with accel or flinch hax

[toxic cobalt]

Unexpectedly?

[wide adder]

Unexpectedly??? With ncrosa?

[mellow linden]

I agree except for unexpectedly. Bea is just good

[wide adder]

What you on lmao ofc she gonna do good

[lean lion]

My first time playing her guys

I didn't know she was this good

Unexpected for me

[mellow linden]

Fair enough

[lean lion]

But she is, and only 1/5 here

[wide adder]

Most 4mg dps are good especially with either field effect or rebuff

[lean lion]

So Hala is good too? I have 2/5 and will need ice dd next week

[wide adder]

Yeah hala is good

I’ve used him beforehand a decent bit before I got ice favs

[toxic cobalt]

Hala and Ghetsis both good

[lean lion]

Don't have Ghetsis power boost or EX

Better to go with Hala then right ?

[toxic cobalt]

Both fine, Hala is more a quick battle Ghetsis you survive a bit easier

[lean lion]

I already have Ghetsis built, so ill test both out see who works better

Also can't wait to see what Bea can do at 3/5

[mellow linden]

Mostly it’s just a Sync nuke upgrade

[steel kelp]

She pokes harder with the stick

[lean lion]

Sirfetched looks hilarious with the poke. Loving this sync pair so far.

[crystal quartz]

How come this weeks champion stadium is 10x harder than last weeks?

[lean lion]

Except Bertha, it's really not. But i guess it depends on the pairs you have.

[mellow linden]

CS stages will vary in how challenging they are for you from week to week because it’s not all the same stages each week

[swift swan]

Sinnoh's stages are very gimmicky so it depends on your roster, really

[mellow linden]

Last week we had Fire weak Aaron, Ice weak Bertha, Psychic weak Flint, Dark weak Lucian, and Poison weak Cynthia. This week we have Ground weak Aaron, Steel weak Bertha, Water weak Flint, Ghost weak Lucian, and Fighting weak Cynthia

Those aren’t just type weakness swaps, the gimmicks are different between each one as well

[potent wadi]

Ugh, Ghost Lucian

[mellow linden]

Ice weak Bertha’s challenge is heavily dependent on whether she can abuse Sandstorm while Steel weak Bertha’s challenge comes from generally high damage and getting her Sync Move faster, as an example

[potent wadi]

... What does a SSTR team look like without Ash and Cynthia

[mellow linden]

Red himself + 2nd Electric damage-dealer + appropriate Support for that 2nd damage-dealer

[potent wadi]

Ah, something like Samurott/N/Red?

[mellow linden]

Sure

Depending on N’s Move Level you may want to consider Elesa or BP Sophocles instead though

[potent wadi]

Mine's 5/5

[mellow linden]

Should be good to go for off-typing then, just make sure you’re using the right parameters

[nocturne pawn]

i use ss hau

[mellow linden]

I assume they intend to off-type Lucian

[nocturne pawn]

i just use it cuz electric terrain literally doesnt run out with that team

[potent wadi]

Unfortunately, I don't have Hau

[toxic cobalt]

I feel an SSTR team is just any team

[potent wadi]

I would've used Roxie, but Lucian read up on his passives

[swift swan]

what's the problem?

Lucian this week is simply anti-special

[rich needle]

trying to post sync bertha is

cuasing me to lose my mind

because i have no good steels other than solgaleo

and i think we all know why i cant use him

[swift swan]

flinch galore

#1011173305702690876 message like this

[rich needle]

well its not that i cant do that but

its tedious

[toxic cobalt]

Sleep galore #1011675077764456519 message

[paper summit]

same thing

I went with flinchlock because I wasn't in the mood for bs, same reason I threw an overkill offtype team to Lucian

[swift swan]

it's steel-weak bertha. can't really do the usual 2 syncs before hers unless you bring your own sync accel or denial

[rich needle]

You’re assuming 2 syncs kills her

[tulip python]

So close

Flinch lock without an Celebi is hard

[toxic cobalt]

That's why I used sleep lock

At 2.5k I flinchlocked Bertha but no way now

[tulip python]

Is that a thing? What are the parameters you’re using?

Cause I have an off type Dark team

But their special units mainly

May just try freeze locking

With Articuno and Bede

Even last time with Bertha that sync didn’t one shot my squad

[toxic cobalt]

Presync params. Freezelocking would work too lol

It need to be 100% though, because head start leaves no room for error

[swift swan]

well yeah

if you don't kill her in 2 syncs using presync params then something's wrong

[toxic cobalt]

Took me two syncs and then two gyro balls

[rich needle]

Boi

[rich needle]

Post sync only

[rich needle]

Well I also want to on type

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week. Hopefully Sidney doesn’t have Wise Entry like bloody Cynthia

[rich needle]

If I go too insane I’ll presync it but

I really don’t like doing that

[versed meteor]

Am about to lose my mind on ghost lucian

[versed mural]

Need help with R1 Aaron 2.5k ( I tried Sonia/ Bertha / Courtney. I get close but Sonia dies a little too fast even on Post Sync)

[old orchid]

Can try Skyla instead, and nuke with Courtney

[versed mural]

Alright thanks

[versed mural]

Took a few attempts for Skyla MPR Refresh but did it. Tysm Gakon!

[dense birch]

Does Lucian have some kind of increased resistance to poison stall? Doing 2.5k preset, he’s only taking about 8k dmg per tick, and he syncs like 3 times with about 20% hp remaining

[toxic cobalt]

That sounds normal enough for poison stall

If you get a team that traps as well it helps a lot

[dense birch]

Hmmm lessen poison 9 apparently reduces poison dmg by 90%

I got no idea how to 2.5k lucian with off type physical lol. The only physical strike EX i have are solgaleo and olivia/lycanroc. But since it’s off type I don’t do all that much damage. Solgaleo has the added pain of being weak to earthquake. Wondering if olivia/acerola/tank is strong enough

[lean lion]

I did 2.7k R3 with SS Morty, SST Red and Kiawe. But I was playing it too safe, you can drop one support for another electric damage dealer. I just didn't have any good options.

I did this after failing to poison stall as well. Mid feels too tanky.

I suggested SST Red because I think you have him right?

[dense birch]

I used sst red vs aaron cuz my courtney bertha comp hit like wet noodles lol

[lean lion]

Clay Courtney support works for Aaron. But Clay needs full grid and 4-star a least.

[manic kiln]

Support you say

[lean lion]

Are you presyncing with this team?

Cause I couldn't

[manic kiln]

Yes

[lean lion]

Needed 2 Clay syncs after Support sync to clear

[manic kiln]

I sync with courtney tho

Clay needs too much support

[lean lion]

Oh mines only 1/5 so not even gridded

Yeah brought Leaf to max out his stats

[old orchid]

i wouldnt use Clay as the dmg dealer at all, especially when he is not properly invested

[manic kiln]

1/5 courtney probably still better than clay

[old orchid]

but its fun to meme with him

[manic kiln]

If using mono team he can’t even buff his atk

[lean lion]

Properly invested means full grid right?

[manic kiln]

Grid, lucky skill, 5* at least for 3k

[lean lion]

I got 2.5k, I have him at 4star do you think I could 3k with 5star?

Him + Courtney + Leaf Eevee

[swift swan]

Clay is the support because he helps Courtney debuff speed so true

[lean lion]

Even if 1/5?

[pine spruce]

any suggestions how to beat Flint at 1-1.5k MM?

[swift swan]

Water-weak? Plenty of options

[silver dirge]

Best accessible option would be 3/5 Kris if you've got her

[pine spruce]

Kris/Totodile?

[swift swan]

Courtney has an easier innate sync multiplier to set up and better stats for post-mega DPS

[swift swan]

Yes, evolve it

[lean lion]

Do you recommend gridding her then? I'd really like to try and push for 3k. I can also give Clay 5 star.

[manic kiln]

I can try gridless Courtney run

[swift swan]

At 1/5 there's not much you can take anyway

[lean lion]

Pretty much nothing

Just some move power ups I suppose and some stats

[swift swan]

Eh i wouldn't really grid her then

[pine spruce]

aw shucks. kris' not at 3/5. might stick to cyrus

[silver dirge]

Cyrus should work, bring a rain setter like May/Winona and a special/crit support

[dense birch]

Does shauntal ignore wise entry?

[manic kiln]

Kek gridless courtney. Had to rely on trap + poison + rock field and post sync to clear

[old orchid]

no one can bypass Entry x2 passives

[dense birch]

Dang

Maybe i’ll just 850 lucian or something then. I just don’t have anything to beat him at 2.5k

[old orchid]

have you tried stalling?

[dense birch]

Yes poison stall. He syncs 3 times and i just die lol

Poison ticks don’t do more than 7.9k

I can’t fit trap into my comp

[old orchid]

poison and trap damage scale with max HP, so it doesnt matter if you pick all HP params

[dense birch]

Yes but he has lessen poison 9

[old orchid]

try Lucy then, trap will help a lot

[dense birch]

Not doing 17k like last week’s cynthia

[old orchid]

with strong defensive support she should tank sync well

[dense birch]

Let me try

Hmm do i do it like this? Or swap drasna for a tank?

[silver dirge]

You want a strong defensive tank there

Lucy handles poison/trap, Janine debuffs

You got BP Morty?

[dense birch]

Yes but not 5*

[old orchid]

should be fine in 2.5k

is he 3/5?

[dense birch]

Still 1/5

I can do skyla or hop instead too

[old orchid]

can you raise him to 3/5?

Skyla is also a good choice because the stage fully uses physical moves

[silver dirge]

Swimsuit Misty would work too, BP Clement as well

[dense birch]

I’ll try skyla first

Grid lucy for hostile environment and pokey trap?

[old orchid]

she doesnt need grid

but both will help speeding up the stall

[dense birch]

Ok i’ll try without first then

[pine spruce]

any suggestions? I already used skyla and champ calem

its on r4, 1.4k mm (all strength on, ultra phys res, interference and status con immune)

[formal vigil]

It should work fine

Though I would remove interference immunity so you can flinch spam flint

[rain turret]

I did 3k on flint with dojo gloria, kris and hop

[swift swan]

full strength? mmm I'd go full offense instead and turn off interference immunity so you can flinch

[dense birch]

Still doesn’t seem to work. Am i missing something?

Do i start by applying both poison and trap on bronzong first instead of poisoning all 3 first?

[old orchid]

How about only focusing on healing Skyla?

Also, is Skyla gridded with all healing stuff and TM MPR?

[dense birch]

Yeah

Ok i think it’s doable as long as i get like 1 mpr proc, and i only heal tank

[old orchid]

Skyla is better because of stronger heal

[toxic cobalt]

Didn't even know Hop could stall

[swift swan]

if there is a healer there is a way

[sick inlet]

[versed mural]

Need help with R4 Bertha ( used my hop and Sonia for offtype lucian)

I was thinking about stalling

[sick inlet]

Possible but will hurt still

[toxic cobalt]

She is a very tough stall

[sick inlet]

Who you got as tanks?

[versed mural]

Supports?

[sick inlet]

Well not all supports are very bulky but yes

[versed mural]

There

[dense birch]

Ok not doable cuz i am doing it on R4

[toxic cobalt]

Grid Skyla with unbending

[versed mural]

Also count off NC Rosa bc I need it for Cynthia

Well not need I probably can play around it but makes it way easier

Along with Lucian and Brain Teaser Solgaleo

[toxic cobalt]

Hmm this is not a strong slate, best would have been Skyla

[versed mural]

Used Skyla for Aaron

[toxic cobalt]

Unsure how Leaf does at 1/5

[versed mural]

Pretty bad I think

Would Shauna somehow do something?

I tried to Nuke with KGrimsley but it's not enough dmg

[toxic cobalt]

Now that sounds like a better option ngl

What was the team?

[versed mural]

Full Roster here

Which one?

[toxic cobalt]

KGrims team

[versed mural]

It was horrible I didn't set it up properly it was BP Valerie , BP Surge , KGrimsley

[toxic cobalt]

Ah he is only 1/5, he can't nuke

[versed mural]

Oh ok

If only I had Hop or Sonia

[toxic cobalt]

Why not use Solgaleo here and Bea for CYnthia?

[versed mural]

Solgaleo with?

[toxic cobalt]

BP Surge I guess

[versed mural]

It's just I thought Brainteaser with Lucian was a easy win

And Final Slot for Gauge?

[toxic cobalt]

Yes is easy win, but first you gotta beat Bertha

Final slot for interference

[versed mural]

I'm gonna be honest Ground weak Aaron and ghost weak Lucian always trip me over

Cuz I have 0 phy ghost attacker

[toxic cobalt]

That's okay, noone has any

Who is your best sleeper?

[versed mural]

Probably NC Rosa

[toxic cobalt]

Oh yes true, but you wanted to save her

[versed mural]

Yes

Let me see

[toxic cobalt]

Have you given troublemaker to Ramos, Agatha, or anyone?

[versed mural]

No

Elio?

Does he work

[dense birch]

Yeah trying this now, but rock tomb spam kinda hurts lol

I’ll give it a couple more tries before i switch to bp morty

Getting unlucky with mpr procs especially when I don’t use it until after like 5 mins sucks

[toxic cobalt]

Yes, with troublemaker

[versed mural]

Ok

[toxic cobalt]

Didn't see him in yoru lsit

[versed mural]

Just got him from a. Gen pool 1hr ago

Didn't update my roster

[toxic cobalt]

He is good, one bar sleep

[versed mural]

Solgaleo , BP Surge , Elio?

[toxic cobalt]

Worth a try

Hopefully you get a 3/5 hilbert soon

[versed mural]

Maybe

[versed mural]

I don't have crunchy lucky cookies

Just realized

[old orchid]

Rip

Do you have any eggmon with sleep move + innate Troublemaker

[versed mural]

Nope

Just Agatha , Ramos , NC Rosa(troublemaker) and Elio

[swift swan]

No serena yet? Oof

[versed mural]

Nope

Cuz the only thing I get IS Clemont..

[swift swan]

I'd try agatha and grid her with hypnosis accuracy tiles then

Also hypnosis MGR9 for better gauge

[versed mural]

This is one time since I am low on sync orbs

If I grid her I can't grid anything else

[dense birch]

Omg i finally did it haha

[versed mural]

Congrats!

[swift swan]

Alright, you can try gridless Agatha then

And pray

[versed mural]

I'm so lucky I had so many books from expedition

Otherwise I couldn't level up anyone

Agatha , Solgaleo , BP Surge?

[swift swan]

Yes

Give that a try

Hopefully gauge is fine

[versed mural]

Nope not even close

BP Surge dies to 2 hits

If I sacrifice my good units to Bertha can I easy beat Cynthia?

[dark osprey]

Just catching up, are you saving Hop for any other battle?

And are both Hop & Solgaleo power boosted?

[versed mural]

No one is boosted except Cyrus and I used him already and Hop is already hsed

[dark osprey]

So you're trying for 3K pts?

May be a bit difficult without the power boosted legendaries

[versed mural]

2.5k

And yes it is pretty difficult but I'm pretty sure there is a way out of this

Just can't figure it out

I might need the help of Nitsua.

[peak stirrup]

Here are my steel pairs. Do I have a chance vs Bertha or should break out the old poison stall?

[mellow linden]

I 3ked her with Hop + Steven + Rachel, though it can be a little RNG to do so

[dark osprey]

I guess you could always go for Steven, Hop and Masked Royal if you have him for a reliable clear. He will debuff attack which makes post sync easier

While also debuffing defense

[tulip python]

I saw that video, you make it look simple hahah

[versed mural]

I think I have to no option than to reset and save hop

[toxic cobalt]

Steven or Solgaleo

[peak stirrup]

I tried a double attack strategy and wasn’t close to taking down mid before sync

[versed mural]

Whose the easiest to stall?

[tulip python]

Not Lucian

That dude doesn’t even take a dent from Lillie’s beam

[keen jasper]

Probably Flint since he has lesser offensive debuff mitigation than the usual

[versed mural]

Flint is the easiest for me to beat haha

Any of them between Lucian or Aaron

[old orchid]

Aaron demands weather change or he hits hard

so you have to bring a weather changer in your team

[keen jasper]

Yeah, even with offensive debuffs, Aaron has Clear passives

[versed mural]

I'm really conflicted

For me Aaron needs skyla

And I need hop for bertha

So who could be a decent tank for stall

Shauna?

[old orchid]

Shauna can work on either Aaron or Bertha

[keen jasper]

A synchro healing unit

Like BP Morty

[old orchid]

Skyla is the best choice for stall tank

among your mentioned pairs

[versed mural]

I so regret not having 3/5 Sonia

Also what do I do against lucian

I barely got by using Sonia and Hop

[old orchid]

bring a good tank + a good physical dmg dealer

[versed mural]

Don't have.

[old orchid]

you need heavy supports to make special Ghost types work against him

[versed mural]

My best phy DMG dealer is SST

I don't have a good phy ghost attacker

My BP units are Valerie and Surge

Would EX Grusha do anything with SST

[keen jasper]

You'd need a ghost zone unit and a hard-hitting special ghost DD

[versed mural]

For Lucian 850 I just used Gio + Elesa

That won't work surely

[old orchid]

which Gio and Elesa?

Grusha's zone wont help SST Red but he is a good defensive tank

[versed mural]

Normal Gio and SS Elesa

[old orchid]

#1053291896778264597 message naur i dont think so

[old orchid]

Giovanni uses special moves tho, except Psystrike

it hits on physical side instead of special

but its not worth using anyway

[versed mural]

Yes but it was nothing

Gio brute forced through Wise Entry

With SS Elesa Gridded for +6 Sp Attack and Gio On a Roll

[keen jasper]

Can you help me with 4k pts. Lucian using special ghost DDs?

[old orchid]

idk lol

[old orchid]

wait i forgot about Shadow Ball for a moment

[versed mural]

Lol

[old orchid]

you can try with better teammates

[versed mural]

Instead of Elesa?

or the third slot

[keen jasper]

I once did Lucian with NC Blue/Allister/Evictor, but my best was only killing Lucian

The sides were too much to handle

[old orchid]

Elesa is fine, but she cant tank well in higher pts

a spatk support + a spdef debuffer + fully gridded Giovanni should work

[versed mural]

Probably need a better tank

I have Lucian now

Classic beating Lucian with Lucian

As for Sp Attack Buffer

The best ones I can think of is Roxanne and Elesa

Also I think R3 should be a benefit aswell

[old orchid]

can you send your support roster?

[keen jasper]

I wonder how does one beat Lucian using special ghost DDs at 4k pts.

[old orchid]

R3 is good yeah, but be careful with the Sigilyph after mid dies

[versed mural]

Icy wind is so terrifying

[old orchid]

unfortunately i cant help with this. you have to wait for experts to help you out

[versed mural]

This and ignore the cross

I have Iono

Which I used for flint but I can stall him

Would that work?

[keen jasper]

Because I'm not really a fan of off-typing in CSMM

[old orchid]

how about Sycamore? no def buffs but he has regen + leech

[versed mural]

I was thinking the opposite

[old orchid]

Iono works great, i thought you were saving her for another stage

[versed mural]

I was like use Sycamore for Flint and Iono for Lucian

[versed mural]

I'm just trying to save Solgaleo Lucian and NC Rosa

But I have to use Lucian

I can use Bea + Def Debuffer too

[old orchid]

Iono has spdef debuff on her B Move, you dont need to worry much

oh yea Bea

[versed mural]

Nanu or Kgrims?

[old orchid]

Nanu is way more gauge friendly

[steel kelp]

That’s a waste of k grim

[keen jasper]

And Nanu can flinch

[versed mural]

Ok then Nanu

[keen jasper]

With cheap usage

[versed mural]

Thanks everyone

My Nanu is also 3/5 but I don't think I'm syncing with him

Anyways I'll try the teams

[keen jasper]

It's fine, he's a Screech and flinch botter anyways

[old orchid]

why would you sync with him tho

Bea is the main dd here

[versed mural]

I'm syncing with Rosa..

First

Then Bea

[keen jasper]

TBF, Bea doesn't need to sync

[versed mural]

I swear I've never spent so much time on one video game trying to beat a grandma with a Rhyperior

[keen jasper]

Her damage output with Meteor Assault is extremely strong

[trail smelt]

Her Rhyperior is stonks

[versed mural]

I don't even know Bea's Kit

[keen jasper]

When the evolution claimed to be worse than its pre-evolution is better than said pre-evolution

[keen jasper]

3 TMs and 1 attacking move

Also has Sharp Entry 2

[versed mural]

Similar to Courtney?

[keen jasper]

Yes

[versed mural]

Ok that should be settled since I'm confident MR + Hop + BP Valerie beats her

[keen jasper]

Beat who? Bertha?

[versed mural]

Yes

[keen jasper]

You're saving Solgaleo for Cynthia?

[versed mural]

Yes

But no

Wait no Actually forget mawile

I'm using Solgaleo I forgot lol

I'm using Bea now

[keen jasper]

Bea for Cynthia?

[versed mural]

Yes

Bea Nanu Rosa

[lean lion]

Replace Nanu with Maylene. That team worked wonders for me, easy 3k.

Maylene helps with maxing atk quicker, spd buffs, accuracy buffs and gives Bea sure hit next

And she can debuff defense with Rock Smash

[still bone]

Is it me or is CS kind of tough this week?

Granted most of my best units are still only 1/5

[tulip python]

Sinnoh is pain in general

[still bone]

Flint's a piece of cake but the others are... (at least to me)

Plus the majority of my grids is empty still, too afraid to make mistakes through gridding

Last week I managed to clear with 9000 pts with what I had

I'm trying to raise the bar this week but only Flint I could clear with at least 2300 pts

The others I could barely deal any damage to

[toxic cobalt]

It’s a hard week

[main crow]

Not exactly the friendliest lineup of type weaknesses

Especially ground

[sick inlet]

Sinnoh always a hard week

Hoenn

Coming soon

Also every week is a tormenting week huehuehue

[lean lion]

Is Hoenn just as difficult?

Also, idk how to prep for Hoenn R5. It maybe has two variations.

[main crow]

Yeah

It's like Alola where it alters between the two champion

[sick inlet]

Yuppp
Sinnoh and Hoenn, together were the nightmares of MasterMode

[main crow]

The different champion has no real impact to the gameplay side of things

[lean lion]

Do we know which comes first or gotta be ready for both?

Oh that's okay then

[sick inlet]

One introduced very bulky mons with doubled defenses/Sp.defs
The other introduced too many gimmicks to deal with

[lean lion]

Sinnoh is the gimmicky one?

[main crow]

Pinned has CS schedule

[sick inlet]

For an example during hoenn, they will set zones, and the stage will have mixed attackers meaning you can't just buff defense or just sp.def

[sick inlet]

Sinnoh the more Bulky one

[lean lion]

Yeah ik, I was just wondering which champion will come first. But if there's not much of a difference in strategy it doesn't really matter

[main crow]

Grass weak Wallace

[lean lion]

Oh...

[sick inlet]

Let me also remind you

Hoenn will also have doubled defenses

On some stages

[lean lion]

You mean sentry entry or just doubled defenses in general?

[main crow]

Hoeen iirc is like the most WTZ demanding CS

That or Kalos I already forgor

[lean lion]

WTZ?

[sick inlet]

Sentry entry x2 or wise entry x2

Not to be confused by sentry entry 2 or wise entry 2

[main crow]

Weather Terrain Zone

[sick inlet]

X2 = their stat actually doubles

[lean lion]

So basically impossible to brute force with the wrong type dd

[sick inlet]

I mean you can always brute force it with strong units, just not recommended most of the time

For an example SSTRed would probably brute force any electric weak MM stage

[lean lion]

Just noticed the (w) and (s) thanks!

[lean lion]

Probably needs 3/5 to be that strong though?

[mellow linden]

Why does DeNA keep skipping Poison weak Wallace in Hoenn CS

[sick inlet]

No

[main crow]

~~They're saving that for Warden Ingo release ~~

(Copium)

[sick inlet]

1/5 SSTred is plenty good

[lean lion]

Well i can't be surprised. Red has been carrying one fight for me for the past 4 weeks pretty much by himself.

[sick inlet]

His base kit already really good

2 + 3/5 is for nuke and easier life

[lean lion]

So between him and NC Serena, who would benefit more from 3/5?

[sick inlet]

Hmm tough question.
I would arguebly say He benefits more. With that being said, I recommend saving your candies till the time you actually need to use em.

[blazing narwhal]

I’d say sst red for sure. Serena really appreciates 3/5 too especially for no quarter but red just gains so much

[silver dirge]

Serena has No Quarter as a base passive

[keen jasper]

Which Serena?

[blazing narwhal]

Ah I confuse her with nate

[blazing narwhal]

Nc

[silver dirge]

It's right there

There's not really a wrong option there tho, can go with whichever of the two you like

[blazing narwhal]

Yea I’d pick who u use the most Which will prob be red with how well he brute forces content

[fiery canopy]

lucian suuuuuuux
i know he has wise entry but damn i figured nc red and irida woulda managed to beat him anyway

[lean lion]

It's a tough decision for sure. I'm leaning towards Cerena rn just cause fav, but idk. It'll be a while before I get a 2nd tech candy so I have time to decide.

[frozen fossil]

I struggle using Hala because, while his damage is great, he takes way too long to fill his gauge after two Ice Hammers.

[nocturne pawn]

use a speed buffer

[versed mural]

Still struggling with Bertha Solgaleo dies too fast.

[keen jasper]

Solgaleo is weak to ground

[versed mural]

Yea that's the problem

Off-type with SST doesn't work too

Since SST is ground weak too

Idk what to do

[mellow linden]

Can try Poison stall, maybe

[versed meteor]

My ass just thought of something i have never done , perm field ss morty + poison stall

[hushed sorrel]

Here mate. See if this helps.

There are 2 videos.

[frozen fossil]

Still stuck on Round 2 Bertha. (Master Mode) I tried using Kimono Grimsley with Metal Burst, Nanu as Screech Spammer, and Hop for support.
The problem is that I can only kill Rhyperior pre-sync if I keep Grimsley at -6 Defense, meaning I can't use Hop for the Defense buffs until then. However, as soon as I defeat Rhyperior, the side Pokémon start spamming Rock Slide, which one-shots everyone but Hop.
I do have Lenora as a potential AOE Defense debuffer, but she only reduces Defense by 1, so I probably won't be able to defeat Rhyperior in time.

[hushed sorrel]

For Bertha. You essentially want to sleep chain or flinch chain.

Uploading the video for you guys just a sec

[frozen fossil]

Is there a reliable Sleeper? Most Sleep status moves have garbage accuracy. While I do have NC Rosa, I want to use her as a last resort.

[hushed sorrel]

Video 1 - how to use sleep to get 1 turn ahead to mitigate Bertha HS1.
https://youtu.be/SVe3iYXnU6U?si=UCk-oSVtVS03vyjf

Video 2 - explanation of sleep and flinch with time stamp.https://youtu.be/PzG3rb8SBKQ?si=hu1TFDLZvPD2IToY

Param used will be minimal HP and mostly dmg / str

[frozen fossil]

Thank you for the videos. Unfortunately, I've only started the game this year, so I don't have Solgaleo's EX upgrade.

[hushed sorrel]

You can still sleep after you kill mid

With grimsley team

[brave halo]

So next week has fire, would i normally use gordie's dmax specially during the downtime of the first ssmorty sunny day or what?

[hushed sorrel]

Sleeping the side and bringing a flinch will disable them

[frozen fossil]

So I can copy your setup and replace Solgaleo with Bisharp? If so, I assume I shouldn't use Metal Burst, since that would be counterproductive with Sleep/Flinch?

[fiery canopy]

gonna try pikared and ss hau against lucian
who should support (other than nc blue i do Not have him)

[hushed sorrel]

Yes you can bisharp ex should take mid down from full hp with support ex

So in the beginning you can dps down the sides

[frozen fossil]

By Bisharp EX, do you mean I need to strengthen it to 6*EX? If so, I don't have the resources.
What do you mean by support EX?

[hushed sorrel]

Hmm can try it without

If you got CS 2 and grid it might work fine as well

Support ex means you sync with your support first to get +100% dmg

The support needs to be exed

[frozen fossil]

Is CS 2 Critical Strike 2? If so, I also don't have any Lucky Scrolls💀

[frozen fossil]

My only EX supports are Skyla/Swanna and Rosa/Serperior. I also have NC Rosa as EX, but I want to keep her as a last resort, since I'm only at Round 2 right now.

[fiery canopy]

for lucian, should i be going for sides or middle first

[mellow linden]

Unless you're trying to turn denial by just outright KOing the left side with or right after 1st Sync it's almost always better to focus the center first

[peak stirrup]

Will Ground Zone negate Aaron’s passive or do I need sand?

[frozen fossil]

I used Red/Pikachu, Volkner for Electric Terrain, and Clemont for Mud Slap. Pretty RNG-dependent, but it worked for me.

[fiery canopy]

yep thats what i thought
Sigh
lucian u bastard

why mud slap

[frozen fossil]

Accuracy drop to ensure survivability.

[fiery canopy]

hmm

[rain turret]

I finished this week's 15k, I didnt have much trouble with cynthia surprisingly

[fiery canopy]

it would seem i am Out of options. lets see if poison stall will work

who r the best poison stallers again

[nocturne pawn]

janine lucy bp morty is the accessible option

[silver dirge]

Lucy & Janine is a great core duo, Lucy for poison/trap and Janine for debuffing

3rd just a defensive/healing support like BP Morty yea ^

[left storm]

Yet another perrserker W

[nocturne pawn]

10.5k off a strike egg sync is pretty good

even if that was 4 sync buffs

[left storm]

It deleted mid in 2 hits so

It makes up

[hushed sorrel]

Then my advice is just to lower the points and complete everything first

[north crown]

Why is KGrimsley cracked? He almost one shot Bertha with zone boosted +3 PMUN Metal Burst

[left storm]

New funny🥚 screenshot acquired

[frozen fossil]

That would have been reasonable. Instead, I exchanged a bunch of passes in order to EX my Samurott. Then, I pulled off the Sleep chaining strategy you've linked to. It was a huge pain, but I ultimately pulled it off, with 3,000 points at that.
Thank you for your help.

[versed mural]

Thank you but I don't have any EX Supports or EX Solgaleo

I do have Rosa but she's not a good support

[hushed sorrel]

Amazing I’m glad to hear and I’m stoked to see that you can pull this off so early in your time with the game

[hushed sorrel]

What are we working with, want to show me?

[versed mural]

One second

[hushed sorrel]

But for real. Hilbert is soooo dam good he doesn’t have that many alternative if any. He will serve you very well.

[versed mural]

There you go

[swift swan]

#1011675077764456519 message should be a similar run with this one, then?

wait, hmm

ah I see the problem now

that team has no crit outside of Solgaleo's sharp entry 1 and focus rush (which is slow)

[versed mural]

I just wanna gamble with hops MPR

[swift swan]

2/5 Hilbert can't give crit yet

[pine spruce]

Do you have Aaron?

[versed mural]

Yes

[swift swan]

try Aaron instead, yeah

helps team survivability too with defend order

[pine spruce]

he can pretty much tank, while giving defensive bonuses to allies

[hushed sorrel]

Lack speed though

Worth trying

[tulip python]

RNGesus blessed me with an easy clear of Bertha

I don’t even know what parameters I copied I wish I could just save those ahah

Had to off type Lucian

I swear they must have nerfed Lunala

[swift swan]

Lucian's stage just punishes special moves

[rotund lagoon]

Wants physical, my dude

[tulip python]

Could’ve sworn Lunas passive ignored that but

[grave wyvern]

It's nothing to do with damage reduction, Lucian has Wise Entry x2

Which means he's got really high special defence

[swift swan]

ahem. Wise Entry x2 akshually

[tulip python]

Either way the more surprising thing was Bea absolutely wrecking Cynthia

That spear attack is no joke after support sync

[pine spruce]

kinda funny that I beat Lucian with a team he's supposed to counter at (special)

[full mesa]

I had to off type him. In need of a ghost physical striker.

[versed mural]

FINALLY...

This woman took 4hrs of my day

[old orchid]

be sure to receive cookies from her from now

[versed mural]

I still hate the game for taking 10 Crunchy Cookies and not giving me Dauntless for Silver

[wide adder]

uhhh, hey guys, did ice week bertha need weather? just got it in rally, figured i could just quickly ask in here

[old orchid]

yes

(also you can check gimmicks of CS stages via pomatools)

[wide adder]

thanks. wish we could see past CBs in pomatools since pastebins dead

[old orchid]

[keen jasper]

You mean Creamy

[versed mural]

Yes sorry meant creamy but I have neither lol

[versed mural]

there you go I'm done. That's the best I can do . This CS Mentally Drained me to the point I'm not even happy that I won I'm just happy I'm finally free hopefully

[lucid solstice]

I think this belongs here.
https://vxtwitter.com/TALDYSJfJNLjkzP/status/1752528034144625048

[old orchid]

@toxic cobalt that insane player made a comeback

[full mesa]

That's beyond insane

[toxic cobalt]

Uh. Okay.

I should pull Iona

[versed mural]

What kinda Iona am I using? Dies after enduring one hit

[zealous karma]

Do you have support damage xx3

[versed mural]

?

I don't know what that is

[undone ether]

Level 1 Iono 😮

[manic mica]

How much Spirit do we get from a 1.5k CS run?

[toxic cobalt]

You mean per level? You get the full amount.

You only need to do 850pts each to get the spirits

Higher points are for

[fiery canopy]

am i missing something or does the poison stall in the 2500 guide not add up to 2500

[silver dirge]

I just had a look, it does add up to 2.5k

[fiery canopy]

weird maybe im just missing something

oh i got it lol

[fiery canopy]

will poison stall work against lucian

[sharp willow]

should do

[lunar meadow]

Unless you use psychic-weak poison stallers

[versed meteor]

If you got Elaine throw her on that team

That girl enables some very nasty things in poison stall

[frozen fossil]

What's a good strategy against Round 3 Aaron?

[mellow linden]

No difference from any other round

Stage gimmicks link in the pins

[frozen fossil]

I would like to make use of the Round 3 Special Attack boost, but my only Special Ground-Type attacker is May/Swampert. Would she be viable as my sole damage dealer, or should I just stick to Physical and use Bertha, Courtney and whatever else?

[mellow linden]

You don't need to worry about the round parameters that much, physical will likely be easier to utilize

The special moves boost round parameter is more impactful for deciding which opponent(s) to avoid that round since some stages can be death rays with that thing active

[frozen fossil]

Got it. Thank you.

[nocturne pawn]

i.e flint

[frozen fossil]

I'm saving Flint until marriage Round 4.

[fiery canopy]

i dont waaah

[warm nymph]

How do you defeat aaron?

[old orchid]

Bring a weather unit to make him deal less damage

Also inflict him with a status change like rebuff, confusion, trap... If you are doing MM, pick Gradual Healing parameter, its a free param because it disables Aaron's Acute Sense

[warm nymph]

Ok

Why does he heal so much when he attacks?

[old orchid]

Cuz of Gradual Healing and you chose too many HP and strength parameters

The pins have recommended parameters set, friendly reminder

[fiery canopy]

finally cleared lucian holy god

[warm nymph]

Ok

[civic breach]

is it possible for me to clear with this roster

[wide adder]

you can clear fully f2p for basically any cs layout, just takes learning how to counter them and such

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.

1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a / striker or a tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.

2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!

3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!

Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!

[wide adder]

read their passives on pomatools before you lay out your teams too

very important if they have like, healthy advantage or sentry or wise or head start, etc. when working with a smaller roster

[wicked pebble]

How does this look for this week?

[manic kiln]

what is that ghost team with 2 supports

[silver dirge]

I was gonna say huh, it looks to fine to me, then realised that isn't Anni Lillie it's SC Lillie

[manic kiln]

you need physical atk, if you use sp atk at least use 2 of them with a strong support like blue

[silver dirge]

But yeah SC Lillie is entirely redundant next to NC Blue

[wicked pebble]

I don't realy have physically attacking ghost.

Like, at all.

So... how the hell am I supposed to make on type work then?

...derp, that should have been anni lillie.

But yeah, I have no physical ghost types.

[manic kiln]

offtype

[wicked pebble]

Redchu, I guess?

[manic kiln]

you can still use sp atk ghost but run 2 of them

[still bone]

I hate this week... Same opponents but different weakness types and everything has become so much more difficult for me for some reason :/

Even without many strength bonuses on Bartha is still kicking my butt 😭

Same with the others really this week

[silver dirge]

Don't stress, each stage might have some gimmicks you need to tackle, or just higher stats - Sinnoh CS is like that. Can you send through the team you're trying & your parameters in-game? We'll diagnose from there

[still bone]

For Bartha, other than 5/5 Leaf the other two are only 1/5

Most of their grid's empty though because I'm still not good at gridding

Oh wait

Hop is 5/5

[silver dirge]

How 'bout the parameters?

Or are you just going for a 0 point run?

[still bone]

Paremeters? As in theme skill lvls?

Two of them maxed

[silver dirge]

No, as in the stage settings for master mode

I can see it's unlocked in your initial screenshot

[still bone]

Ah, no I try my best to add opponents' strength bonuses

I only got a total of 9000 pts last week so been wanting to raise the bar a bit this week

[silver dirge]

Yes, that is fine. Just send through a screenshot of the parameters you're running

There's some that are more optimal than others, so changing them around will likely help you clear the stage

[still bone]

But only Flint's a piece of cake, cleared it with 2300 pts but all the others nowhere near and still can't beat them
Don't know which to turn on :/

[silver dirge]

Have you had a look at the presets in the channel pins?

That's a good starting point to go off of

[still bone]

Yes I've been following that spreadsheet

But usually I just use the same preset for most battles

After having one set

[silver dirge]

Alrighty, just send me the one you were using for Bertha's battle, in case there's something you shouldn't be picking up there

You can also grid staggering on Leaf to flinch some of Bertha's moves, that way you can effectively deal with the HS1

[still bone]

Alright thank you, still in the middle of taking screenshots

I'm not using Solgaleo by the way because I'm trying to save it for Cynthia

Sorry for the long uploads

Even with just these turned on I can't beat her

Whereas I beat Flint with most of the red turned on

[dark osprey]

Better not to take the ally healing down 5 and and ally HP down 5 parameters

Can take the Ally move gauge less 2

And the can't change weather, terrain, zone parameter

[still bone]

Hold on... I think the key is the last one: don't turn on change weather etc.

This changes everything in this fight thank you!

Oh wait nvm

turn on can't change weather i mean

[wide adder]

Thinking about something like this so far for next week to play around slightly different units, might change the grass dps to change it up there though to mess around with like lodge Gloria or something weird like that…

Getting one last use of pserena in before she likely ends up semi retired due to ss gladion coming by time we get another fairy

any gimmicks i might be overlooking with these teams?

(Most of the limiteds im using this week aren’t optimal move levels, for what it’s worth)

[dark osprey]

Maybe Wallace needs to replace rain with sun

Plus hope Glacia doesn't hit that hard

Those Blizzards were a pain even at 2.5K

Oh yeah. She too had hail

But probably Wallace can change weather

[wide adder]

so prob spend wallace max move at start of fight for early weather replacement?

[old orchid]

yes

[thorn citrus]

anyone know any cute team to go against Aaron in Sinnoh hallenge? Im using Round 2 debuff with physical damage reduction, but i don't have any special ground type users. Only strikers i have is like Nidoking T_T and he's so unreliable cuz he doesn't have crit increase.
and he's so costly with 4 move gauges T_T

[tired sleet]

Feel free to show us your roster using screenshots or make an image with the tracker website
Nidoking will be very powerful when you give him crit/speed support

+tracker said website

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[thorn citrus]

oh i have to manually input each char?

[old orchid]

yes

the site is useful whenever you are asked to show your roster, so you should do it

[thorn citrus]

there's a way to save this list right? in case i just wanna update it without having to input each char each time

[sharp willow]

it saves locally

and theres a backup function that you can copy paste somewhere safe

[tired sleet]

Press backup->export on the left side panel, and copy the code in a digital notepad so you don’t lose it
(You can import it later)

[old orchid]