Champion Stadium

[dense birch]

For cynthia i was thinking as an alternative i can poison stall her

[old orchid]

you are aiming to 2.5k, arent you?

[dense birch]

Yup

If it helps i have 23 and am thinking of EX-ing someone too

[old orchid]

can you filter your roster for units with Ground type moves?

[old orchid]

thats a bit sad

your best bet is Courtney + Bertha combo

worst case scenario you have to stall

[dense birch]

Wish there were good ground types for f2p, or maybe i am unlucky haha

[old orchid]

you missed Naomi

[cinder summit]

Naomi (Sightseer) & Sandslash

Acquisition:

Event Reward

Alternates:

None

[old orchid]

she is pretty solid for ontype

[dense birch]

Yeah dang, gotta wait for a rerun

[lusty wagon]

Did your team

Can be done

And you can survie sync nate and kriss if have unova passion on when main sync

Would more easy if kriss have rain mp after main sync

My parameters

[rose ermine]

[old orchid]

did you sync with Lance?

also i dont see he is at +6 atk

[rose ermine]

Next part

I hate the sides

[old orchid]

you picked Initial Injured Ferocity on Lance's grid, didnt you?

[lusty wagon]

You have more chance whit nate do it then lucas since he sync hard and b move hit all

[rose ermine]

yes

[old orchid]

weird, this image shows Lance at +2 spatk despite having used his TM once

and damage on sides is low too

please recheck the grid

[rose ermine]

Mk

Found the problem

Somehow lance does not go below 50% after using tm cuz I used kris tm first

[old orchid]

the tile is activated when below 60%

[rose ermine]

Yeah

[old orchid]

maybe because of ally hp down on entry?

[rose ermine]

Yeah

I tried tm first move

Didn't even activate

[lusty wagon]

Did vid for you extreme james copium. Do same and you will get it.

https://youtu.be/yfV-mixFCZ4?si=Sn6tYbgPj5eQrCBE

Have all sync grids itc in lucky skill kriss or lance can be diffrent

Nate should have his

[silver dirge]

If you're starting at 50% HP cos of the half HP param, Mini Potion or Potion Turn 1 and use Lance's TM turn 2

That'll trigger it

[rose ermine]

Ive resetted 40 times now

The aoe is spamming earthquake BEFORE SYNC

[old orchid]

Do you have SS Morty?

[rose ermine]

Yeah

3/5 EX

But he won't help cuz regardless of defence with striker damage up param he'll be one shot anyways

[old orchid]

I mean SS Morty & Ho-oh

[rose ermine]

yeah

Also beat it

The solution was using NATE

The whole damn time

Godamn

He blasted both sides first sync

Now for the ultimate challenge

Petrel Vs Cynthia 3k

Except for emma,who'd be a good partner with petrel?

[trail smelt]

I’m not familiar with what petrel does, but Oleana is always a solid pick for poison weak stages

1st turn Poisons everyone guaranteed and -6 offensive stats by 1st sync? Yea please.

[cobalt nacelle]

F Iris' Poison Zone is also always useful

[old orchid]

both outperform Petrel

[versed meteor]

Oleana + Emma + a piece of wood

[rich needle]

Eugh

[keen jasper]

I'm not sure why, but this time, with all the current and previous weeks I've done, I've always done Lucian on R4

[hushed sorrel]

The luxury. Watching drama and doing CS.

[rich needle]

drama

[wide adder]

How likely would it be for Feb datamine cs schedule to give us a peek at start of march types?

Cause I’m hoping for a clue on possible anni pairs and cs tends to like to line up with big releases afaik

[silver dirge]

Super hard to say for sure, it may line up or it may not

There's not really a hard & fast pattern

[wide adder]

So there isn’t a minimal count of cs weeks per datamine or anything?

[silver dirge]

Not that I am aware of, would highly doubt it

[wide adder]

Alright. Thanks anyway.

[dark osprey]

Does the AI know that I'm queuing obstruct with Piers? Flint keeps throwing fire punches or condition shields when I do. If I don't Obstruct, the one shot fire blast has high probability

[old orchid]

Nah they dont

You are just unlucky

[dark osprey]

Ah crap. Thought so

He's got fire blast and flamethrower and still using the other 2 moves

[toxic cobalt]

This half sync round is killing me

[dark osprey]

Burn stall Aaron?

[hushed sorrel]

Just pull out your masters fairs

Stop using your level 121 cyndaquil and chikoritas(lolol)

[wide adder]

Ngl I’ve been playing poma since anni2.0 and I STILL get weirded out a tiny bit seeing levels over 100 associated with a Pokémon

[hushed sorrel]

Lols

Leveling some of these psychic units for HS. I was expecting more dmg from Caitlin

[old orchid]

did you click her sync move when there is 6 gauge bar?

[hushed sorrel]

Yea

That's why I took off the param for gauge lol

[lean lion]

Got 3k R1 Lucian with 1/5 EX SS Blue 1/5 Cerena 2/5 Sidney. Thanks to Jo for telling me to build Sidney!

[wide adder]

Stored power doing just as much as the sync is just insulting to see personally lmao

[hushed sorrel]

O it did have some smun stack though lol

[wide adder]

True, didn’t notice the +5smun before now but still bit goofy to see

[hushed sorrel]

Giovanni looking more promising. Only with -4 sp def no rebuff same param.

[left storm]

Well she has kinda bad csmm multipliers tbh

[lusty wagon]

Lol why you striker hit 1 oponet naruto?😅

[formal vigil]

Not exed

[lusty wagon]

Giovani? How

Its free🤣

[sick inlet]

Probably didn't get the chance to do VE which gives EX stuff

No mega as well

Hopefully the even runs before the HSE or lots of new players will have a harder time using Mewtwo

[sick inlet]

Caitlin is a beast though, don't sleep on her

Definitely will be on a team from top players next hse

[lusty wagon]

Hard tell if dena give befor it or some new units can change befor alot

[manic kiln]

Caitlin will be the tank

[sick inlet]

Dps tank sounds good to me

[frozen fossil]

Is there a recommended order for this week?

[old orchid]

just be careful with anyone you fight on R1

[keen jasper]

Depends on your units

Aaron or Flint seems like the easiest on R1

[dark osprey]

How do you make regular Grimsley work? Don't want to EX him but honestly Nanu is miles ahead of him in terms of utility and damage

[old orchid]

make sure he has max offensive stats + the target has no positive buffs

these are minimum requirements

he is totally not worth using unless you want to meme

[keen jasper]

If you have SC Zinnia, then she can help him

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Been snatching the buffs and buffing him but it's just deplorable. SC Zinnia at 1/5 does much better dps wise and nuke I think

[old orchid]

ofc she does

Grimsley is the worst Dark type

[dark osprey]

Yeah she overshadows him to the point he's dead weight. He has one multiplier for his sync with an attack stat of 250 or something. At least they gave Nanu 2 multipliers for his sync

Plus relentless is the best multiplier for a debuffer

[old orchid]

Free multiplier

[silver dirge]

Zinnia is the 2nd strongest dark nuke in the game Grimsley is an absolute deadweight there

[left storm]

Worst "accessible" pair

In the game

Imo

His bulk is so awful +6 evasion doesn't compensate remotely in 9/10 scenarios

His offensive stats are a joke

His nuke is barely passable, but the base stats kill it

[calm marsh]

And Dena gives him AG1 despite Karen has AG2

[dark osprey]

Oh yeah lol. Karen is the most techy striker I feel. Flinch, poison, -2 aoe sp atk debuffs, sync countdown reduction as well

[rose ermine]

Will I be fine for Monday?(left is 15k,right is 5k)

[old orchid]

Seem good

Tho i would replace Sawyer with someone ramping up Silver's multipliers

[frozen fossil]

Anyone have tips for dealing with 🅱ertha on Round 3? These are my only Ice-types.

[silver dirge]

Hard mode or Master Mode?

[frozen fossil]

I'm playing on German, so I don't know the exact name, but it's the mode that lets you increase the difficulty at will.
The name translates to Hard Level 1

[old orchid]

Thats indeed Master Mode

Ghetsis/Kyurem + Winona/Pelipper + a good tank who can help Ghetsis buffing his offensive stats should be able to freeze Bertha to death

[frozen fossil]

Yeah, that. The interface is a bit confusing, since it states "Hard Lvl. 1" at the top and "Elite Mode" (translated name) further down next to your score.

[old orchid]

The pins have many recommended param sets, please go check then out

[old orchid]

Hard level 1 is a bit confusing yeah, given how we still have had lvl 1 for 3 years

[keen jasper]

Why the hell do you have Pal. Marnie on Lucian?

[rose ermine]

Attack down

Duh

[sick inlet]

Nano is not to be taken lightly.

[left storm]

Especially on a 180 spa Mon Vs a 400+ spa mon

[silver dirge]

Who taught Cynthia's Togekiss Fire Blast

And here I was setting up sun for her with SS Ace

[paper summit]

[hushed sorrel]

Don't you worry. I exed 11 units for grass, I only need to ex 10 max for psychic. So caitlin is def getting some love 😂

[manic mica]

This is certainly one way to beat Aaron this week

[brave halo]

So how much fear will I be with cynthia this time cause ngl I'm pretty terrified

[left storm]

GG Shake my hand

(the Eevees were all 3 lvl 1)

[manic mica]

[versed meteor]

That flint looks

[brave halo]

Anyone know of a good speed dropper for this team to replace hop with?

[hushed sorrel]

Sst red

[mellow linden]

Doesn't SC Diantha lower Speed though?

[versed meteor]

SS

[brave halo]

But I need it to be even faster

[mellow linden]

NC Hop does it too

I don't think there's any problems debuffing Speed

Unless you wanna have -6 Speed on the opponent before even your 1st Sync, but if that's the case then it's Dojo Gloria/SS Silver or bust

[versed meteor]

Gordie?

Hes got grid trip up

[mellow linden]

I guess, but I don't think he'd provide more to that team than anyone currently on it would

[hushed sorrel]

Courtney is pretty fast too

[mellow linden]

Like, unless you want -6 Speed immediately I don't think that team has any issues with Speed debuffs

[brave halo]

The other issue is that both diantha and hop are gauge devourers

[mellow linden]

You have NC Hop for the initial burst of Speed debuff and SC Diantha for keeping it lowered/finishing it off

[mellow linden]

Even with the Speed buffs from Hop's Trainer Move?

[brave halo]

And even worse is this bs

Pretty much every other move is gonna miss now

[hushed sorrel]

Do you have to use this team

[brave halo]

Keldeo, yes cause the stage is meant for it, but hop and elaine, no

But elaine has both attack stat drops and even swift for ignoring the accuracy drops

[mellow linden]

Can just use Aura Sphere on SC Diantha and have her nuke the center

[brave halo]

Wait I think I found someone when trip Up was mentioned, being Eve

Swift debuf shenanigans

[mellow linden]

Eve is a big downgrade for that team

You are fine for Speed debuffs

[brave halo]

But then how about gauge?

Plus accuracy drops cause they wanted us to suffer

[mellow linden]

Worst comes to worst use Aura Sphere on SC Diantha and use her as the nuke while Hop deals damage

[hushed sorrel]

I'm pretty sure you don't even need a support for that team

[brave halo]

But won't hop miss literally every single time?

[left storm]

?

[mellow linden]

If you’re that concerned about accuracy debuffs bring Aaron or Maylene gridded with Precision Pals as the Support

But tbh I don’t think they’re nearly as big of a concern as you’re making them out to be

[brave halo]

Remember if a move isn't 100% accurate

It will miss 95% of the time

[mellow linden]

Outside of the -1 at the start you’ll probably only see 1 or 2 debuffs actually happening in the fight

Which while not ideal, considering the overall team you should be able to pre-Sync the center no problem with a nuke from SC Diantha and then have lots of time to finish up the sides thanks to the sustain Elaine gives to the team

You can also grid Team Pinpoint Entry on Elaine to offset the initial accuracy drop

[brave halo]

She already has it but yet Cynthia's passives will be an issue

[mellow linden]

Again, it’s not guaranteed and only happens when she attacks

So they’re multiple layers of RNG for those accuracy debuffs to even happen

[brave halo]

Given its the ai doing it, and it's 50% chance, that's auto 100%

[mellow linden]

Don’t overthink it, just try the Elaine + SC Diantha + NC Hop team and if you struggle any more than a couple resets you can workshop it

The only thing you have to lose is the time spent on the attempt(s)

[brave halo]

Tho gotta admit, kinda funny that aura cynthia never got a free "moves never miss" in her passives

Granted I can't use her yet but damn she has like so much other stuff and that's the one she doesn't have, could've used her for support

[mellow linden]

SSA Cynthia would work fine as the Support if you wanted, if you’re concerned because Move Level then the only major things (IMO) she misses from 3/5 are Focus Group and Impervious, neither of which is vital

[brave halo]

Impervious tmk wouldn't even stop ripple anyway

Plus she doesn't have vigilance, meaning she be dead by hit 2

[mellow linden]

It would stop the Ripple Effect because if the debuff doesn’t take effect then it can’t spread to AoE, but with all the bulk SSA Cynthia would give the accuracy practically becomes a nonissue.

She also doesn’t need Vigilance. While it’s nice as an insurance policy, she has insane bulk to handle the occasional crit and I personally roll with Adrenaline on her

[brave halo]

Eh given my experience, not having vigilance on the tank is just asking for trouble

Cause it'll be crit city

[mellow linden]

Statistically the crit chance is actually quite low. Even if you don’t have her as your primary pick I’d recommend keeping her in mind as an extra option

[brave halo]

Dammit I had the gears turning in my head of trying ssmorty over elaine but forgot he is weak to electric

He has stat drop immunity in sun

Wait I'd have to use him for Aaron anyway

[versed meteor]

Well i did an ss steven + holi jasmine run that made me reset so it feels weird that a team like that can clear

[brave halo]

Best to say it's sinnoh cs

[hushed sorrel]

Lussamine is built for ontype. With terrain it won’t be behind ss Steven with seun by all that much. Plus almost all of CSMM can be cleared on 1st sync by limited pairs anyway.

[brave halo]

OK hopefully this all works

[dark osprey]

Not sure why Adaman is there on that team but sure. Also the fighting team concerns shouldn't be much since you could grid Penny for accuracy buffs, Hops B move never misses, Hop gets free move next after using TM and so on. If you've got leaf EX, could bring her for more accuracy buffs and gauge as well

[brave halo]

Adaman for defense drops and status change

And penny/Leaf are also not ex, I am working on raising more supports as we speak but it'll be a while

[dark osprey]

If you pick gradual healing parameter, you don't need the status change but guess the defense drops with zero gauge and master passive are nice

Plus, Penny can raise accuracy without syncing though

[brave halo]

But she still isn't ex, meaning I can't support ex

She's not even 20/20 yet

She is on the backlog tho

[old orchid]

With these op pairs EX support is not needed

[brave halo]

Given this is sinnoh cs tho

I just panic naturally so most times I need that support ex, unless I'm kinda forced to ex with someone first, like victor for ghost cause expansion zone

[mellow linden]

The only thing you can lose on failed attempts is the time spent trying them. Your roster is a lot stronger than you give it credit for, don’t get too hung up on the what-ifs

[undone brook]

screw flynt.

just

screw flynt.

[old orchid]

do you need help clearing his stage?

[undone brook]

i'm gonna try with one more team then ask for help

like

everytime i face flint in cs it's a nightmare

[old orchid]

yeah all Flint stages have offensive pressure

[undone brook]

this should be possible right

just slightly alter params?

[old orchid]

what params are you using? i think a Psychic Terrain setter is better than Lucian because Giovanni has 50% debuff chance

[grand trout]

Man i want ex ncrosa just in time for fighting weak

Given how she's 9/20 atm i don't think that'll be possible

[old orchid]

good thing is she doesnt need EX to enable other Fighting types

[grand trout]

Yes it's just a compulsion of mine to have the exes be support lol

It looks weird in the HoF otherwise

[undone brook]

i was trying this team earlier with these params + 6 strength up

the earlier team used these params

is there an easy way to show params

[grand trout]

There's one, but it'd be harder in your end

Typing it out manually

[undone brook]

a h

i should probs add yhat yhe next time they send out a survey

[grand trout]

Nah i think the interface of poma is fine as is

We just need a better way to show params server-wise like the tracker

[undone brook]

ok i swapped lucian out for pal!dawn

it worked

[old orchid]

replace Atk 1 and 5 with Strength 2

that decreases the pressure of dangerous attacks

[grand trout]

Paldawn is a debuffer right

[old orchid]

do you mind showing your units' grid? by using the team builder feature on pomatools to show all of them at once

yup she is

[undone brook]

o h, noted

[old orchid]

also, despite Sabrina being frailer to physical attacks, i would tank with her

Flint has 50% burn and if he burns Bianca, you have to be extra careful with using her moves

Sabrina mostly clicks TM to heal

[undone brook]

how do i show multiple pairs at once on pomatools

and can sabrina actually tank fire blast?

[undone brook]

notedooo

[old orchid]

Menu -> Team Builder

[undone brook]

rt

ty

[old orchid]

tbh i would another spatk support than her

[undone brook]

besides overkilling with nc blue bc i need to save him for bug weak sometimes, who would you recommend?

[old orchid]

do you plan to use NC Blue this week? also its better posting your support roster here

Sabrina works but her spatk buffing being tied to healing move is a bit wasteful to me

and her healing isnt strong either

[undone brook]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010200051800&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AAECAwQFBggLDhAVFhkcHg&v1=011400006500&s1=5&l1=140&r1=5&p1=0&a1=0&t1=1111&g1=AAECAwQFExYZGhsdICEmKCks&v2=014001015000&s2=5&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=1111&g2=AAECAwQFDA4PEB8iKCsuLw

[undone brook]

i tend to hope and pray on mprs 😭

[undone brook]

gimme a sec

cs2 on gio

vigilance sabrina

uhhhh

no lucky skill on bianca

i should

probably change that

filtered to spatk up

i have caitlin at 5/5 too but idk who's better beteeen her and gio

[old orchid]

Giovanni is the better choice

for Giovanni's grid, i would remove a sync tile and get Psychic On a Roll 2 for more reliable spdef debuffing

[old orchid]

NC Blue is excellent. are you gonna use him in another team this week?

[undone brook]

idt sooooo

[old orchid]

Plan your remaining teams ahead first

[undone brook]

alright cleared cs

ty for the help!

[old orchid]

[wide adder]

Anything I should know in advance for fighting weak Cynthia? Main thing I see so far is accuracy debuffs and speed debuffs

Dunno if I’m missing any details there

[old orchid]

thats all

Solgaleo surely gives Cynthia a nightmare

[wide adder]

im tempted to do solgaleo + gloralt + ssac, but im worried that'd not have enough gauge unless we have fast gauge param next week...

wait, fuck, i cant do solgaleo anyway

its steel weak

need solga for bertha

so back to square 1 on my last slot of fighting team

[old orchid]

Bea then

Even 1/5 Bea does wonder

[wide adder]

Rough draft atm, might change the supports on ghost and ground, not fully sure if I’ll stick to Bea or not just yet for fighting

i just know i wanna try using gloralt on fighting here cause piercing gaze seems very nice to have when theyre gonna spam acc debuffs

[old orchid]

Be careful when running weather less team on Aaron

[main crow]

Ready for tomorrow

Been a while since I last used Kris

Also hoping we get a new ghost type sometimes soon, Fantina kinda struggling 3k

[wide adder]

oh, right. does that mean i should put Ingo in that team? it kinda slipped my mind that aaron fight wanted weather

[old orchid]

yes, ofc

[wet gate]

can i use nc marnie against lucian

or no because of wise entry

[old orchid]

she brute forces through it without trouble

[wet gate]

ok

i have nc calem and serena as well so should be fine

who cant i fight round 1

[dark osprey]

Based on your roster can use one of the OP teams to clear even on early sync

[frozen fossil]

Finally cleared my first run of Master Mode. 🅱ertha was a 🅱ain in the ass. She might have been easier, had I not used two of my best supports on Flint.
As for Lucian, I used Garfield + Rat + Electric Terrain.
Cynthia was ridiculously easy. I was planning on using Janine to apply Poison and Accuracy↓ with Cross Poison, but she died almost instantly. Even so, Drasna one-shot the side Pokémon and also handled Togekiss with ease.

[rotund lagoon]

Congrats! But remember you can make a post in #1010274591601598555 as this is better suited there!

[frozen fossil]

Thank you!

[glass valley]

Trying to beat Hard 1 for the first time, here’s my team builds. If I level everyone up to 110 or 120, will it be enough to be able to clear the stadium today?

Also added all my other sync pairs if anyone sees a better team comp

[hushed sorrel]

I’d choose slightly diff dmg dealers. Flint surge brolly

Fire use Hilda and silver (free)

Hau is better than surge

If you are using psychic use Giovanni

Brolly - not sure you got Bea already

[glass valley]

-Swap Flint for Hilda or Silver
-Swap Surge for Hau?
-Swap Tate for Giovanni

Wasn't 100% sure about your suggestions but is this right?

[hushed sorrel]

Yes

You need to complete all legendary pairs upgrades first

[glass valley]

I picked Brawly for Brick Break to remove damage reduction and Surge for SpAtk down, but not sure how effective that is in practice

Not 100% sure why to switch Surge w/ Hau, unless it's for paralaysis instead of SpAtk down? Or just generally more damage

[hushed sorrel]

Hard mode you prob don’t need Debuff

Just more dmg is fine

[glass valley]

ty

[hushed sorrel]

Generally speaking. You want to check your teams have max attack or special attack (+6) and max crit (+3) so you can do a check yourself

For your main dps

[mellow linden]

Water weak Flint tomorrow woohoo

[brave halo]

Kris being ex better work or I swear

[mellow linden]

As long as the team and parameters are well put together I see no reason why Kris wouldn’t work

[brave halo]

Sinnoh cs despises my guts

[mellow linden]

It’s definitely got a few outliers as far as restrictive gimmicks goes, but Water weak Flint’s thing is mainly “I lower Sp. Atk.” and “I will Sync nuke you if I am not debuffed or KOed by then”

And Water being the stacked type it is…it’s not exactly hard to KO him before he Syncs

[brave halo]

I have Cerena but given my luck the game will find a way

[mellow linden]

You’ll likely have better odds of success if you don’t assume you’ll fail before you even try

[wide adder]

another thing to note is the damage reduction walls are already ignored by Crits, brick break is kinda...

[mellow linden]

Yeah, the 50-point Physical Damage Reduction and 50-point Special Damage Reduction parameters just set Reflect and Light Screen, which are ignored by critical hits

So as long as your team is properly built they’re a free 100 points total

[crystal notch]

What's steel weak Bertha doing here?!

[sharp willow]

terrorising the playerbase, i presume

[crystal notch]

I didn't realize the hs1 granny was back

[sharp willow]

idk she wasnt that bad when i fought her last

[crystal notch]

Nah, she wasn't that bad for me too

But she certainly terrorised this channel

To bits

Do I slot in Stoutland to Bertha, or to Lucian?

poor SSR Cynthia suffering with three uses of phantom force only

[sharp willow]

i used him to boost up Rose last time i used him i think

[paper summit]

nothing but skill issue, let's be fr

[crystal notch]

Fr fr

[keen jasper]

The reason why she has HS is because flinch haxing is encourage

[crystal notch]

I guess I'm gonna sleep hax with meloetta

Yeah I'm slotting stoutland with solgaleo vs Bertha then

And ssr Cynthia can get the funny sync accel shenanigan with mayziken as support

[toxic cobalt]

Noooo not steel weak Berthaaa

[main crow]

Who's ready for 3k steel week Glacia

[cold tusk]

1/5 rose just doesnt do it for me had to use ol reliable steven

[toxic cobalt]

Ah evasion Cynthia, I vaguely remember you

[silver dirge]

Me

Decimate the playerbase with your blizzards queen

[main crow]

I should EX Kimono Grims atp

[manic kiln]

#1009554906568462476 message
1/5 rose is enough

[wide adder]

Me, cause I have a team I can just reuse this time around

[swift swan]

my 1/5 non-EX Raihan is finally gonna have his CS debut

(i'm gonna cry because he's so slow)

[main crow]

Skill issue just bring Lucian

[wide adder]

Man I’d love to use Zacian but I just can’t afford to do it against that monster when Zacian only 1/5

[main crow]

Team viral hustle 9

[wide adder]

My strike candies are gonna be eaten away at too

Cause I finally see a major fav that wants them

[old orchid]

For me Solgaleo gonna eat Glacia alive with Pal Marnie's help

[noble plaza]

Who should i do for r2?

[wide adder]

For me it’s sstred for debuffs and accel with hop and solgaleo stealing the show

[main crow]

EEWWW why are we getting half sync again

I feel like this month has like 3????

[wide adder]

The pins aren’t updated yet for the params of the week. What we got, can’t open game right this second

[main crow]

Oh phew

[wide adder]

Food about to be ready to take out of oven

[noble plaza]

This week doesn't have half sync

[main crow]

Haven't opened the game bc I was cooking

[silver dirge]

Idt nov has updated it yet

[wide adder]

I’m cooking too

[noble plaza]

Is there a pasio stadium coming up? Glacia isn't a part pf this week

[wide adder]

Making loaded potato sticks snapps

[crystal notch]

[noble plaza]

It's almost 2 am where i am

[wide adder]

Same here Nyla but I’m hungry

[main crow]

What about r5?

[noble plaza]

Use stat lowering effects

[swift swan]

....i forgot it's monday reset

on my way changing the pins LMAO

[noble plaza]

[main crow]

Oh sweet NCHop gaming

[wide adder]

Does he answer -acc -speed spam too?

[noble plaza]

Who should i r2?

[wide adder]

Cause Cynthia do be like that

Always dena and making focus blast be more like focus miss lol

[undone ether]

okay time to tackle this

[noble plaza]

Focus miss is in the main line games too lmao

[swift swan]

updated

[wide adder]

Yep and dena leaning into the meme

[swift swan]

whoever doesn't need quadqueue

[noble plaza]

Not 100% sure how to determine that 😅

[old orchid]

All except Cynthia and Flint use physical moves btw

[trail smelt]

And Sinnoh beat whoo!

Thought steel weak Bertha was troublesome… until I checked my parameters and realized I turned on physical damage reduction lol

[noble plaza]

Solgaleo is struggling vs Bertha. He's weak to ground so he can't do post sync

[trail smelt]

Mine survived. She’s paired with max Hop and 1/5 Gloria

I had to get lucky and max get Hop’s MP refresh though

[calm marsh]

Love Hop SEUN

[lean lion]

Having a tough time poison stalling Lucian on R2 with Janine Lucy and BP Morty. Mid takes too long to die.

[old orchid]

Is BP Morty 3/5?

[lean lion]

Yeah and gridded with synchro heal and potion MP refresh

I have Fantina 2/5

Will she work instead?

Or another on type dd?

[toxic cobalt]

I think Lucian wise entry

[lean lion]

Yeah

Wait ill see if I have any physical ghost types

[old orchid]

Fantina can brute force through WEx2 with heavy support

[toxic cobalt]

My stall team from last run

[old orchid]

3/5 Morty should be enough to keep the team alive until mid dies

[toxic cobalt]

Is Fantina much better than Shauntal?

[old orchid]

Yes

She has more multipliers and SEUN from TM

[toxic cobalt]

At 2/5?

[old orchid]

Ah i assumed you asked about Fantina in general

iirc 2/5 Fantina only gets MG2

[lean lion]

What do you mean by heavy support Gakon?

[old orchid]

I mean op supports, like Iono's level

[toxic cobalt]

Try stalling again

or offtype

[lean lion]

Should I off type Lucian with SST red and on type Bertha instead?

Problem is I only have non-ex or pb Solgaleo for Steel

[toxic cobalt]

What are you ontyping Bertha with?

[toxic cobalt]

What level is your Hilbert?

move level*

Alternatively, do you have anyone who can help with crit and speed?

[lean lion]

Don't have Hilbert

[toxic cobalt]

Solgaleo can do it, but you need to give him crit and speed

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message may I interest you in some flinch lock

[lean lion]

2/5 Kiawe

And I can EX Kiawe

[toxic cobalt]

What rng, i couldn't even get Acerola to flinch consistently for last week

[lean lion]

Was gonna choose between him and Shauma this week anyway

[swift swan]

luck is a skill and you have skill issue

[toxic cobalt]

Kiawe raises speed slowly

hmm lowering defence is nice though

Okay he gets mpr at 2/5, he could work

[lean lion]

What if I bring 2 supports

Skyla + EX Kiawe

[old orchid]

that works

[toxic cobalt]

Worth a shot

[lean lion]

Okay so I did Aaron R1, plan was R2 Lucian R3 Flint and R4 Bertha. Now I'm gonna do R2 Flint, R3 Bertha R4 Lucian.

Lucian sides have wise entry. Should I bring Hau with SST Red regardless?

[swift swan]

are you sure you want to R3 flint?

he's the only special elite four this week

[swift swan]

why not ontyping?

[lean lion]

No good ghost types

[swift swan]

fantina? giovanni?

[lean lion]

I was going to now I'm doing R2

Wise entry

On Lucian

[swift swan]

it's not a very huge deal

people overthink x2 entry

it just means your ontype damage dealers will be hitting as if they're offtyping

but they don't lose out potential super effective multipliers

compared to actually offtyping and not being able to pick standard dmg reduction, which means you have to compensate with more bulk

[lean lion]

Should I give Fantina a shot then? Mine is 2/5?

[swift swan]

try running her and giovanni with a good gauge and sp atk support

[lean lion]

I'll give Gakon and Aurochs suggestions a try, this is my first clear this week anyway

Then I'll grid Fantina and try running the team you suggested

Need the power ups to ex another support will get it done quickly

[lean lion]

Bertha is impossible with the eq spam

Just one shots either Solgaleo or SST red post sync

And I've given her no atk params

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message may I offer flinch hax in these trying times

[lean lion]

I don't have Sonia who else can work?

And my mc Solgaleo isn't ex

[grand trout]

Do we know what next cs is already?

Oh hoenn

Imma brace myself

[undone ether]

Hoenn next huh

Glacia... and Drake too.

[hushed sorrel]

What's the gimmick for cynthia

[lusty wagon]

Easy:)😂

[hushed sorrel]

Once I get it to low health it doesn't die lol

[lusty wagon]

Cynthia low acu only play

[old orchid]

you let Cynthia debuffed accuracy too much, right?

[lusty wagon]

On start low 1

And 50% for 1 each hit

And its apply for all off sync pairs not 1

[hushed sorrel]

Perhaps I did. I just adjusted the param for lower hp and it was fine

[lean lion]

Guys help me optimize these teams further please. I got 2k, 2.8k, 2k, 900, 2350 in each stage. Aaron and Flint were easy. Bertha is hell can't stay alive. Red was good can go without 2 supps. Guage was an issue with Cynthia added Melony to survive sync.

[brave halo]

OK am I going crazy or is the game updated to use side aoe early cause I swear it is using icy wind and yet none of the opposing side is down

And icy wind is supposed to be labeled as a ko aoe

[keen jasper]

Sometimes the enemy sides will know if mid gets KO-ed

[brave halo]

That's just straight up bs

As if I need to rage on sinnoh cs even more

[manic kiln]

It’s your execution. Team building > choosing parameters > player’s skill > rng.
I can use the same team as you with lower move level and still presync clear

You have OP pairs, there’s no reason you can’t clear

[brave halo]

There is a reason

The game is that broken

I'm using ren cynthia and annilillie

They can't kill in time

[keen jasper]

Against a Wise Entry x2 stage

[old orchid]

they can brute force just fine

sounds like gameplay issue here

[keen jasper]

Oh Renegade LMFAO

[calm marsh]

Yeah, that team should be able to clear

[brave halo]

Well it's not cause the game is just that broken beyond belief

[manic kiln]

Learn to quadqueue, it’ll change your life

[calm marsh]

Just play better

[manic kiln]

No I’m serious, quadqueue and deny turn are valid strategies, you can’t always rely on brute forcing

[old orchid]

especially on hard CS like Sinnoh and upcoming Hoenn

[brave halo]

It's hoenn next? I.....

I hate this game sometimes

[old orchid]

nothing to worry about if you are willing to improve

[keen jasper]

Hmmmmm, how do I brute force steel-weak Glacia with striker Perrserker?

[trail smelt]

Oh man Steel Weak Glacia next month

[keen jasper]

In 4k pts

[brave halo]

Finally ugh

Can sinnoh cs just not for once

[lean lion]

Anyone please? I've since improved to 2k, 3k and 2.3k (moved Red to R3, replaced Shauna with Kiawe). How do I tackle Bertha and solve guage issue on R5?

[swift swan]

Bertha, try flinchlocking

Instead of Skyla

At least to prevent Solgaleo from crumbling to EQs

Considering he dies to EQ anyway, I'd just take strike x3 lmao

And flinch sides accordingly

[old orchid]

Be sure to pick Endurance tile

[swift swan]

What move level is Courtney? At 3/5 she has a lethal nuke. Otherwise, and if you don't have bertha, it's better to offtype

[versed mural]

Btw Can Courtney / Bertha / Sonia all at 1/5 beat Aaron 1.5k or higher

[old orchid]

Better posting your clears in #1010274591601598555, and please dont post flex in the middle of helping

[versed mural]

Okay

[swift swan]

Do you need both Melony and NC Rosa on R5? Maybe try Maylene instead of Melony and grid for TM Pep rally?

[swift swan]

Worth a try

[versed mural]

K thanks

[lean lion]

I don't survive sync without Melony's sp def buffs/max move

[swift swan]

Presync it

[lean lion]

Do I need Solgaleo's power boost for endurance tile?

[swift swan]

Postsyncing sinnoh is hell

[lean lion]

Pep rally is accuracy buffs on Maylene grid?

[swift swan]

Rosa also has sing, try to deny the opponents' moves as much as possible to prevent them from syncing for as long as possible

[swift swan]

Speed

[lean lion]

Who would be good for flinch locking Bertha?

[swift swan]

If you can also afford precision pals that would be great

[swift swan]

Any cheap 1 bar flincher. BP Morty for example also provides healing and defensive buffs on top of that

Hopefully gauge is fine

[lean lion]

Already used Morty for Lucian

I'll check what I have and try

[swift swan]

Acerola ig

Astonish is the cheapest

Or ig sleep also works. Elio has good gauges

[lean lion]

I got only 900 on Bertha vs 2k+ on everyone else

She's something else

[sick inlet]

Me post-syncing Solos and Duos

[sick inlet]

What's your Bertha's team?

[swift swan]

#1011675077764456519 message this can be a reference for bertha

[lean lion]

Hop Solgaleo Skyla

[sick inlet]

I am guessing no expansion for Solgaleo

You don't need double support
You want a debuffer, a flincher, or a sleeper

You only need hop (for Crit, since skyla won't give you crit unfortunately)

[lean lion]

Had her there for some speed

[lean lion]

Right no pb

[swift swan]

Instead of Hop, try Hilbert then

As long as he's 3/5

[sick inlet]

Yeah, but speed and you can't survive sync anyways means you will die while being fast

[lean lion]

Don't have Hilbert

[swift swan]

Oof

Yeah then for now ig we can try Hop/Solgaleo/Elio

[lean lion]

I can add Serena for sleep or a flincher

[swift swan]

Elio's cheaper, try giving him troublemaker lucky skill if you can afford it

[sick inlet]

Elio might be better for turn skips

Because you can control who sleeps and who wakes up

Kinda

[swift swan]

I'm afraid you can't juggle serena and solgaleo's 2 and 3 bar moves with Hop as the support

[sick inlet]

That too

[lean lion]

Don't have Elio either

😦

[swift swan]

Elio has that propelling move

[sick inlet]

Sadge

[swift swan]

Ouch. Okay last option. Agatha, grid for sing MGR9

[sick inlet]

Is your skyla 3/5?

[swift swan]

Wait not sing... Hypnosis

I'm mixing up my sleepchainers

[lean lion]

Yeah

[sick inlet]

If skyla 3/5 we can grid for flinch

And hope for flinches on 1 bar move

Wait wait

Ramos?

Sleep powder is 2 bar?

[swift swan]

Staggering 💀

That's such a low af chance i wouldn't really count on it lol

[swift swan]

Yeah

[sick inlet]

Sadge

[swift swan]

And idt his gauges are any good

[sick inlet]

Who has high chance/guarantee flinch/sleep on 1 bar

[lean lion]

I could use Melony if I'm replacing her with Maylene on R5

I decided to r4 Bertha cause you can kill sides to debuff all opponents

[sick inlet]

What's r5
I haven't looked at my game yet today xD

[lean lion]

Cynthia fighting

[calm marsh]

Better Debuff

[sick inlet]

The EQ will take you out too

Do you by any chance have colress?

[swift swan]

And you need debuff for what?

The debuffs are only -1, it's almost irrelevant

Focus on mid

Presync the hell out of bertha

[sick inlet]

Bertha has HS1 which makes presyncing harder than your usual presyncing

[swift swan]

That's why denial is very helpful given her head start 1 means you can't do your usual 2 syncs before hers without your own sync accel or denial

[sick inlet]

We can try to brute force with too many debuffs or flinch/Sleep

[lean lion]

Should I try nanu make her squishy and try to pre-sync?

[sick inlet]

I guess they should try Serena
Or Melony if there are no other real solutions

Melony and turn deny using Sing

[swift swan]

If the gauges allow

Yes

[sick inlet]

But you need troublemaker 1 as lucky skill

[calm marsh]

Do you know how to turn denied with Sing ?

[lean lion]

On Melony?

Yeah

[sick inlet]

Yes

[swift swan]

On most sleepers

[lean lion]

Isn't Melony's sleep guaranteed though?

[sick inlet]

Is it?

[calm marsh]

No, sing base accuracy is 45%

[lean lion]

Ah right just checked

[sick inlet]

Yeah no guarantee
Even with trouble maker
But it makes your life easier

[calm marsh]

Melony can have 100% Sing

Her grid has Sing + Acc

Unlike Elio

[sick inlet]

Isn't troublemaker *2?

O

Good point

[lean lion]

I'll try Nanu first then Melony

[sick inlet]

Nanu with crits has higher chances to flinch

[swift swan]

I don't quite remember how good Nanu's gauges are

[sick inlet]

2 and 2

[swift swan]

With screech he has charging infliction or sth?

[sick inlet]

I can't recall

Yes

[calm marsh]

But idk if Nanu better here, bc he will be busy with flinch and debuff

And 60% flinch too

[swift swan]

Nanu will be very busy mhm

Prioritize the flinch

At least enough for solgaleo to sync twice before bertha can sync

[mortal dirge]

Rhyperior is hard to kill huh

[lean lion]

Okay

Yeah he is

[mortal dirge]

Im using metsgross, Kiinklang and Hop and I’m getting hammered

EQ post sync kills metagross from full health

And he doesn’t flinch

[wide adder]

1/5 gloralt does more than I expected to fighting. Huh…

[mortal dirge]

Any suggestions?

[wide adder]

Expected to need to change third slot around to make that work, but redlax, gloralt, ssac worked…
Hm? Have you tried Solgaleo, Hop, plus either a +3 accel unit or a flincher? If you have hop and solgaleo exs

[swift swan]

Problem number 1, postsyncing is hell

[wide adder]

Cause if you have those that’s a presync team right there

[swift swan]

Is your Colress EX'd by any chance? He can almost kill Bertha after first sync, then it's just a matter of DPS with Steven

Use presync params

[sick inlet]

Me not starting my mm because I saw Bertha be like:
Yeah, screw that behemoth

[mortal dirge]

Yeah she is EX

[mortal dirge]

What are this params?

[calm marsh]

You can use Colress Sync to kill left side to denied enemy turn

[sick inlet]

Then die to mid

[calm marsh]

And 2nd Corless Sync should be able to kill mid

[swift swan]

Pins has a 2.5k presync params guide

For 3k, we also have a short guide

[calm marsh]

Corless shouldn’t have any trouble to kill bertha on 2nd Sync

[mortal dirge]

Colresss gets OHKO on the sync

[calm marsh]

My Hop oneshot Bertha just fine

[sick inlet]

Colress is a bit bulky

[old orchid]

You dont let Bertha sync, thats the strat

[manic kiln]

What’s your steven move level. Sync both time with him, 1st sync should deny both sides with -6 def, just need to flinch 1 time after that to sync the 2nd time before they sync

[mortal dirge]

Steven is Max

[sick inlet]

Everyone 1 hp

[calm marsh]

Endure baby

[manic kiln]

Post sync because flinch missed but can clear either way. Full offense parameters

[swift swan]

Steven tanked that like a champ huh

[mortal dirge]

I got lucky and got it

Somehow

[old orchid]

Well, he is a champ, after all

[swift swan]

[mortal dirge]

I feel like ghost pairs are so weak

[sick inlet]

They good enough

[mortal dirge]

I always struggle in ghost CS

[trail smelt]

What’s your ghost roster looking like

[trail smelt]

lol exact same team I used last time

I mixed things up this week and used triple legendary steel beasts team

[old orchid]

Do note that Lucian has double spdef than usual so special Ghost types have harder time dealing with him

[lean lion]

Melony worked guys thanks so much! Got 700 additional points. Can do better now that I know the move denial strat. Post synced it, survived with Melony's max move

[sick inlet]

Noice

700 more pts

I bet you can 3k it

Especially if you get to expand your Solgaleo soon

[lean lion]

And added Maylene without grid with NC Rosa and Bea, easy pre sync 2.6k. Thanks so much everyone! I can get 12.5k for sure and match my best score at least. R5 could have gotten 3k honestly.

[steel kelp]

I also used nc rosa with bea but also with ssa Cynthia and probably could’ve 3k too

Who cares about accuracy debuffs when bea just nukes

[lean lion]

Yeah 2 moves kills mid wtf

[steel kelp]

Pmun goes crazy

[lean lion]

You can definitely 3k with fighting zone + pmun

I'm gonna grid Maylene and try to do it too

[sick inlet]

You can 3k without fighting zone

[undone ether]

ahh, done.

Bertha needed a bit of rng 😮

[versed meteor]

[somber bay]

I just unlocked master mode any tips? I might now have enough units to actually do anything yet

[old orchid]

have you checked the pins yet?

[mellow linden]

Hoenn CS next, huh

Another round of Poison stalling Steel weak Glacia

[turbid geyser]

i am getting so pissed over ghost weak lucian and steel weak bertha

[wicked junco]

Why can I never use SCShauna in monotypes, steel weak content always have ground moves

Do you guys have any monoteams for R2 HS1 Bertha?

[mellow linden]

Why do they always cut Poison weak Wallace for Hoenn CS

[mellow linden]

Are you requiring monotype for challenge run purposes?

[wicked junco]

Yes, my first aim is always 3k monos if possible

[mellow linden]

I guess something like Hop + Steel damage-dealer + Palentine's Marnie or Colress, then? I think you'll have better team performance by not restricting yourself to monotype though

[wicked junco]

No doubt, but if possible, I enjoy doing them monotype, at least for a few shots. I've been trying with SCShauna + PalMarnie + Rose, but gauge is cringe, and it's not enough damage to do it presync with HS1, I'm just 1 cycle short

But reseting for no ground moves is starting to tilt a bit

[lunar meadow]

I hate ghost weak lucian

[verbal karma]

I...have no idea who suggested that Bertha can be a makeshift support, but...she kinda sucks at tanking tbh

[mellow linden]

She's able to act as a tank, though if you're running high amounts of offense-boosting parameters then she may be less effective at it

I personally used her as the tank against Aaron this week

[verbal karma]

well, she instantly dies to Aaron's crunch

and Cross Poison takes more than half of her health away

[mellow linden]

Sounds like max offense parameters then

What's the team?

[silver dirge]

Is Sandstorm up in this scenario?

[verbal karma]

Bertha/Naomi/Courtney

[verbal karma]

yeah

[mellow linden]

Can try rolling with a Sp. Atk. + crit Support instead of Courtney and see if it works out, Naomi may not require Zone to clear

Especially if running low amounts of bulk-inccreasing parameters

Alternatively you can replace some offensive parameters with some Strength or Max HP and see if that helps

[verbal karma]

sadly, Naomi's sync hits very weak without zone

[steel kelp]

Is she even fully buffed

[mellow linden]

If she's gridded for Sync nuke and Sandstorm is up then it shouldn't

[verbal karma]

she is

[mellow linden]

So if both those things are true, and you're making sure to get her Sp. Atk. as high as possible and max her crit, you've either set your expectations far too high for damage output ("not uber-tier damage" =/= "wet tissue") or you have bad parameters (either too much Defense and Sp. Def. increasing ones or accidentally turned on Special Damage Reduction 8)

If Naomi isn't at +4 Sp. Atk. and max crit when she Syncs then that would very much explain low damage

[verbal karma]

ah, shit, new problem

there is SOMETHING in this Aaron team that prevents me from quadqueueing

like, the opponent straight up gets to queue before my sync animation even starts

and if I can't quadqueue, that means I can't do two syncs before the opponent syncs

[sick inlet]

Zone is ending, shields, weather etc

[verbal karma]

nope

[sick inlet]

Skill proccing

[verbal karma]

no zone or weather ending

[mellow linden]

What round is this

[verbal karma]

Round 3

[sick inlet]

Skill procc'd?

[mellow linden]

When is Bertha resetting Sandstorm?

[verbal karma]

the only skill getting procc'd is Lessen Trap on Aaron

[verbal karma]

right before the first sync (which is when Sandstorm is still active)

[mellow linden]

So very last action before 1st Sync?

[verbal karma]

yes

[mellow linden]

So still have her reset it as her 3rd action, but try having her be the 1st or 2nd of the team's final 3 actions

So the order goes "Bertha -> teammate 2 -> teammate 3" or "teammate 2 -> Bertha -> teammate 3"

Rather than "teammate 2 -> teammate 3 -> Bertha"

[verbal karma]

okay, I did

and it STILL happens

and this time, there really was NO skill getting proc'd either

[mellow linden]

What's your move order for the team?

[verbal karma]

well, my current move order is Naomi -> Bertha -> Courtney

[mellow linden]

I mean what moves are you using on each pair for your 1st sync cycle

[verbal karma]

oh

Sp. Atk (Naomi) -> Sand Trap (Bertha) -> Earthquake (Courtney) -> TM (Naomi) -> Sand Trap (Bertha) -> X Def (Courtney) -> TM (Naomi) -> Sandstorm (Bertha) -> X Def (Courtney)

[mellow linden]

Don't use any of Courtney's attacking moves in your 1st Sync cycle and have Bertha's 1st move be Trainer Move

Switch Naomi's 2nd Trainer Move use with an X Sp. Atk. and gamble on the 1st Sync's crit

[manic kiln]

Ditch naomi, use bertha as nuke, courtney to clear sides and use proper support

[mellow linden]

The team should work fine, let's fix the gameplay issues 1st and see what we have from there

[manic kiln]

I use rose shauna and marnie. All 1/5 and cleared easily, just reset earthquake lol
Oh just saw you use the same team. I only attack with rose, marnie zone and filler moves,same for shauna

[mellow linden]

If it still fails then yeah, can switch things up to Bertha nuke with Courtney Bulldoze or something

[mellow linden]

And also, make sure Courtney sets Ground Zone as her 3rd action each Sync cycle

[wicked junco]

First sync with Shauna, I assume? I'm always 1 cycle short of damage, maybe my parameters are messed up somehow

[manic kiln]

yeah, but they should be dead even with HS, you don't need 2nd sync

[wicked junco]

Was flinch necesary for your win?

[manic kiln]

i use full str + some atk

i don't think so but you can rely on flinch to get the 2nd sync

[wicked junco]

And did you manage with a single Steel Field, or should I ditch half MP?

[manic kiln]

yeah I only need 1 zone

[wicked junco]

They sound similar to my attempts then I'll give it a few more shots

[sharp willow]

Man i love doing "oops all ground weak" vs a ground type boss

[verbal karma]

FUCK

it ALMOST worked

but then the left side survived Earth Power with literally one pixel of health left

and then the Heat Wave killed me

I hate this game sometimes

[manic kiln]

So you need max move to crit, and use iron head 2 more times, it’ll be close tho, the 2nd iron head was use after their physical shield, gauge was tight but doable

[lean lion]

Yes, it's possible!

[mellow linden]

Sounds like you've basically got it and can just keep at it, then

If you haven't done so already you can squeeze out bits of extra damage via Stealth Rock

[lean lion]

3k Cynthia and pb 13k!!! Thanks to everyone who helped. Getting closer to 15k every week with y'all teaching me something new everytime! Only day 42 of playing.

Got 2.5k Aaron, 3k Flint, 1.8k Bertha, 2.7k Lucian and 3k Cynthia!

[wicked junco]

Dunno where you get the damage or the gauge, but this is how all my attempts end

Just 1 iron head short

And this is saving all of them in Steel zone

[manic kiln]

maybe try to squeeze an iron head from marnie, but you're close

[wicked junco]

Wait, but you are using 2 fields then, right?

[manic kiln]

did your zone run out

if so you need to replace it early

[wicked junco]

No, but the 2 first iron heads are outside Steel zone, then I start with Steel field and max move after Shauna's sync, then spam iron head

[manic kiln]

also you want to queue a move from both shauna and marnie before they use their last move, they will stall long enough for gauge to refill and you can use another iron head

ok only my 1st iron head was without zone

[wicked junco]

Yeah yeah, I do that, but it's still not enough

[wicked junco]

I tried even resetting for MP refresh on Rose for more gauge + PhysUp, but it's still 1 Iron head short

[manic kiln]

you'll get even less speed if it's too much you can use steven with the other 2

[wicked junco]

But 1/5 steven damage is cringe

[manic kiln]

oh 1/5 or replace shauna with registeel, or you want to keep her

[wicked junco]

Guess I can try with Regi, but still kinda infuriating that I can't do it with the same team if it is supposed to work

[manic kiln]

i'll try to record a vid, i don't think rng is that bad tho, earthquake probably still better than 2 crunch or highhorse power

[wicked junco]

It doesn't feel that rng heavy tho, I just can't make enough gauge to work

[manic kiln]

gear? do you have full steel gear

[wicked junco]

Yep

[manic kiln]

so if they use tm shauna use tm, if they use atk move shauna use potions

rose just tm 1 then iron head, max move after support sync

marnie just zone, tm, growl if you can afford

[wicked junco]

Ok I've been using basically same parameters and strat, but my gauge and dps is WAY smaller than that, I didn't know 150 lvl could be that big

I need 1 more iron head just to leave rhyperior at that same health prior to their sync

[mellow linden]

It’s more likely to be a difference in gear than it is level 150

Or some other factor

I could be wrong though

[wicked junco]

Didn't they make it with 3* steel gear as well?

[manic kiln]

yeah i used 3* steel gear

[wicked junco]

Closest I've been

But you manage to even got her at still 1 move short from sync

With no speed steals

[manic kiln]

probably with some flinch you can stall a bit more

[wicked junco]

But I'm running no interference parameter for less bulk tho

[manic kiln]

oh

[sharp willow]

i feel like going for slightly more bulk and the ability to deny moves is far more useful

[wicked junco]

It is in most scenarios, but what good would be flinching with no gauge to double queue?

They still have enough TM to reach sync

At least with HS1

[keen jasper]

I wonder if eggmon striker Perrserker and eggmon striker Magneton would be enough to do 4k pts. on steel-weak Glacia

[lunar meadow]

1/5 Mawile, 3/5 Klingklang, and 3/5 EX Copperajah is a super easy clear

[wicked junco]

All of them are at 1/5

[lunar meadow]

Ah, Copperajah was an instant 2 candies for me.

He's an amazing high damage unit, worthy of it

Klinklang works as a support, but he needs 3/5 to become basically a free gauge battery.

Copperajah is so gauge hungry, he needs a battery buddy lol.

[keen jasper]

Is Gloria better than Rose in terms of sync nuke?

Assuming 5/5

[wicked junco]

He is the slowest MF I've had the displeasure to work with

[lunar meadow]

At 3/5, Klinklang basically spends 0 gauge, increases move gauge speed, and has MGR on screech lol.

He spends negative gauge

[manic kiln]

most steel units are slow

~200 speed

the free Solgaleo and Zamazenta are decent tho, 300+

Gloria has great speed but she sucks at low level

[keen jasper]

You mean at low move level

[lunar meadow]

Lol, Slowgaleo being called decent on speed 😅

His grid expansion did a lot

[manic kiln]

yeah

[wicked junco]

Free move on sync also did wonders for them

[manic kiln]

well both him and hop with free move are great, without that they're just decent

[fiery canopy]

ghost type cs is always so annoying bc my ghost units are Lacking !

[mellow linden]

Your Ghost roster is most likely fine for most Ghost weak content, Ghost weak Lucian is just an outlier because he has Wise Entry x2 when the accessible Ghost damage-dealers are all special

[fiery canopy]

blegh
how do i get around that

[crystal notch]

Off type physical

[mellow linden]

Can just off-type or Poison stall, yeah

[crystal notch]

Or get ssr Cynthia/other limited ghost phys

[fiery canopy]

WAAAAAH
this sux

[steel kelp]

or if you’re bold off type special

[fiery canopy]

bertha is also being very annoying
seeing as solgaleo is weak to ground it gets Killed upon bertha sync

weh. who r some good units to pair with hop/sol

[crystal notch]

Why are you letting Bertha sync

[manic kiln]

double dps is good, grimsley for example

[crystal notch]

You can deny left with solgaleo sync

And buy yourself another sync before Bertha syncs

[fiery canopy]

alrightie ill try grims

wow idk how i keep fucking this up

should i send a vid

[mellow linden]

You can if you want, sure. Gameplay recordings can always help with pinpointing any issues that can be fixed

[wicked junco]

I gave up on trying to make SCShauna work.
My deadass completely forgot that Hop got EX already, and this was a first attempt.
Oh well, it really seems that I'm never going to get use from SCShauna on mono

Also is it me or does the "more special moves" Round sucks for everyone this week?

[crystal notch]

Off type special aaron

That's the only usage

[wicked junco]

I also used it for Aaron, but still did it with SSGio

[paper summit]

eh, I'd use it for Flint, because water can demolish the guy fast enough for it to matter

[nocturne pawn]

i hate steel bertha

[turbid geyser]

Same

[verbal karma]

Okay, I don't get it

I just don't get it

Why can the opponent always queue an attack before the animation of my first sync even STARTS?!

[mellow linden]

Which e4 is it this time

[verbal karma]

Still Aaron

The quadqueue worked for me once

[mellow linden]

Do you remember the suggestions I gave you?

[verbal karma]

and then never again

and I don't even do anything different

[verbal karma]

Oh, looks like I missed that part, lemme try that

[frozen fossil]

Which order are y'all doing the battles in?

[mellow linden]

The order doesn’t matter a whole lot outside of maybe wanting to avoid Flint on Round 3 since he’s the most special move-heavy of the e4

[rain turret]

I need teams for bertha, I tried going off type with the grass team(ss erika, acerola and lyra), but it didnt do enough

[mellow linden]

Rose + gauge Support + Defense debuffer will probably work fine

[rain turret]

I tried colress but he dies to the 1st earthquake

[mellow linden]

Good thing Colress isn’t the only Defense debuffer out there then

[rain turret]

dojo gloria Im saving for flint

[mellow linden]

There are more options than those 2

[rain turret]

how can I search on pomatools for defense debuffers?

[tulip python]

Please tell me that Steel Weak Bertha isn’t a tank this week

[mellow linden]

Her stats and kit didn’t change from the last time she showed up as Steel weak

[tulip python]

😭

[rain turret]

she sets physical shield b4 syncing, so steel special hitters might be easier to deal with her

[mellow linden]

Physical Shield is ignored by critical hits

And the sides have Wise Entry x3

So physical is better than special

[tulip python]

Guess I’ll have to use that combo again

Rose, Hop, and The dude with gears

[rain turret]

colress?I tried that trio, but earthquake kills klinklang even after 1 def boost from hop

[tulip python]

That’s a matter of quad que

And also spamming the hell out of screech

What’s the ideal round for big ole Bertha this time?

[mellow linden]

Doesn’t matter all that much

Round 2 may have marginally more benefit in terms of your team’s survivability, I guess

[tulip python]

Might try to knock it out round 1

[sick inlet]

How to deal with Bertha? Just don't let her attack at all.
This was half ally hp parameter
She couldn't get a single hit in

[tulip python]

I love that you used the

Celebi cheese

[sick inlet]

She deserves it.

[tulip python]

Truth

Did you solo that with Solageo and Celebi

Wut

[sick inlet]

Ye, I do Duos/Solos

I have a thread about it, but I shouldn't be promoting it here unless I am helping someone

[paper summit]

shameless plugs, smh

[north crown]

Heeyyyyyyyy……… speeEeCcCccsSsss?!?? /j

[daring osprey]

Bertha be p hard

[fiery canopy]

Bruh

[mellow linden]

Lack of consistent triple queue is an immediate issue

Consider using Screech more on K. Grimsley if you’re gonna run a team who has that poor gauge use

[rain turret]

I tried hop, colress with mc solgaleo instead of rose(since solgaleo is 5/5 and rose is only 1/5)

[wicked junco]

I felt like the most optimal order for this week was Lucian -> Bertha -> Aaron -> Flint , but tbf Aaron was there just by elimination

[mellow linden]

Pretty sure 1/5 Rose is better than Solgaleo in every way except Sync nuke

[wicked junco]

I liked Flint as 4th since the stage kinda asks you to get rid of side Rapidash soon

[mellow linden]

And Rose has AoE Max Move to compensate

[wicked junco]

And Phys shield for Bertha since I find it to be the heardest one for this week

But that may be just a roster thing

[fiery canopy]

should i just switch grims out for someone with good gauge

[mellow linden]

You could try something like Skyla + Solgaleo + Defense debuffer since your Solgaleo is Power Boosted

[fiery canopy]

alright lemme try that

[mellow linden]

Make sure to grid Solgaleo for Critical Eye and Sharp Entry

So that you can max Attack and crit

[fiery canopy]

whos a good def debuffer Lol

[mellow linden]

Colress, K. Grimsley, and Nanu are options with Screech, Kukui is an option with Leer

[fiery canopy]

gotcha

[mellow linden]

Dunno if you joined after Bugsy + Scyther or not, but if you have him he’s another Leer option

[rain turret]

oh, then I might be having a parameter issue

Im on R1 btw

[fiery canopy]

oooooooog

[mellow linden]

Could show your parameters and we could see if there’s anything that would be best adjusted

[rain turret]

ok gimme a few mins

parameters

grids

[fiery canopy]

tried ncred and irida on bertha and even that didnt work

Pain

[crystal notch]

...what? how?!

that's definitely something wrong with your params/queueing