wave-audio

[solemn wyvern]

Right so, the 2.0 beta is what you’re using so… beta gonna beta, is about all I can say there.
The Reddit thread is where devs are present to be taking feedback reports on that.
If you want to uninstall and install the latest retail release, feel free.
Being two instances of wave link in the mixer is a little odd, but wave link itself won’t be making any sounds anyway so that’s just an artifact of how windows doesn’t really do audio mixing well, and many apps have multiple entries with no description of what they are for. (Eg, voice vs dings, for an app like discord)

But in the second pic I can see that you’re routing your audio around the wave link mixer instead of into it. Use a wave link channel as your default output so sounds will go to the mixer and you can control and hear them; and microphoneFX as your default input, so apps that ask for a mic will get it after your effects.

[crude cosmos]

Ok. So now I have to do more thinking. Is there a way to minimize latency (I'm waiting for the wave xlr dock to arrive) while keeping the stream deck + & XLR dock combo connected to the stream PC? Could I use the headphones out to line in on game PC while still hearing audio from stream PC without having the stream deck/XLR combo on game PC?

[azure wing]

Strangely, it's always been routed that way with no issues, so Lord only knows. Frustrating.

[solemn wyvern]

It just means that any app you didn’t manually route, was going straight to your headphones without being controlled by wave link, and any app that used a mic (without you specifically selecting the microphoneFX device) was getting your raw mic with no effects.

[azure wing]

Ok so I changed to the FX mic, but what about the speakers, that should be fine, no?

[solemn wyvern]

That’s what I was talking about in my last reply. It’s all signal flow.

[crude cosmos]

Oh lol sorry I misunderstood. I thought the way that's set is by having the stream deck on the game PC instead of the stream PC. Ok I got lots of tinkering to do once my xlr dock arrive. Thanks
I just prefer to have it all on stream PC because simple setup and controlling everything on stream deck +

[solemn wyvern]

Umm you will probably hear it… but again, you’re routing directly to the headphones so that audio isn’t going through wave link so it isn’t being controlled in wave link.

[azure wing]

How amI directing to a headphone? I don't see that

It shows speakers

Funny enough, I can hear all the sound from everything except Zoom

[solemn wyvern]

It’s like, either way.
If headphones are on stream pc, then game audio is latent. If headphones are on game pc then you have to get the audio of anything else (alerts, voice chat, anything) back over to game pc to mix into your headphones.
Probably the best way would be to have a mixer with connections from both pcs and mix your headphones with that.

[azure wing]

This is very confusing, why it got so messed up 😦 I don't know, but it's very frustrating

[solemn wyvern]

Speaker/headphone. doesn’t matter, the point is you aren’t routing it to wave link.
Select a wave link channel for all audio to route to. Then all audio goes to wave link.
In wave link set the monitor mic to whatever speaker/headphone you want to listen on.

[azure wing]

SO which Wave channel should it be?

Freegin stream deck keeps losing it's connection to wave audio.

[solemn wyvern]

For default I use game (so I don’t have to route ever game individually) but many people use system or something. Doesn’t matter, just chose one.

[azure wing]

The sound is very low now going through system channel

I'll have to test zoom now, as it was the one that lost sound completely

[solemn wyvern]

Not surprised, your faders are almost all the way down.
I would suggest probably having the level in the windows sound routing panels all the way up, and just mix with the faders in wave link. Will be very confusing to have level adjustments in two places.

[solemn wyvern]

For any app that has its own internal controls for input/output device (like zoom and discord) … prefer to use the apps controls over the windows panel.

[azure wing]

Ok, So I'll crank all the Window's Volume Mixers to 100%, THEN route to System as the Output, and WL Mic VFX(as it is now), THEN use the Streamdeck to control all the sounds? Does that seem correct?

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah stream deck serves as a hardware controller you can touch.
Wave link software is the mixer. So that’s the thing to keep in mind. Sound goes into mixer, and then goes to the outputs. Monitor mix to your ears, stream mix to the audience, and microphoneFX is a mic-only output, so apps that want your mic only.

[azure wing]

weird that Wave link is still showing up twice as is discord in the window's volume mixer???

I will say, I can't touch the System on streamdeck as it creates feedback.

I also have an audio switch

Does that look correct? Or should it be my speakers for the primary? I'm assuming the System as I have it

I used to ahve have it the speakers, and the headphone and it worked well, but since these changes I've made, probably different?

[solemn wyvern]

Is this changing the monitor mix device?

[solemn wyvern]

So the switch would be between whichever devices you want to listen on. Not wave link channels.

If you route the output of wave link…. Back into one of wave link’s channels… then it will feed back…

[azure wing]

Ok, so I'll "switch" those back to what I had, Headset and Speakers to switch between and NOT the Wave channels.

[solemn wyvern]

Yes exactly. The monitor mix is an output. From wave link; a mix off all the channels.
So if you set that to be sent to a wave link channel, you see why that would feedback.
Which is why those channels aren’t available in the menu. Haha

[azure wing]

Well, no the feedback was coming when I used the Elgato channel input, which doesn't show on my Stream deck, as I'm assuming that's how it would work anyways.

I mute that usually(not in the pic obviously)

I'll eventually learn how to use this properly LOL

Oh the other note, any idea why I can't apply the effects?

[solemn wyvern]

No.
Let’s get the details there: what happens when you click the effects button on the mic channel?

[azure wing]

which one is the mic channel? The Zoom?

[solemn wyvern]

All the way on the left. Wave mic or wave xlr or whatever you have

[azure wing]

In this case, it shows the fx

[solemn wyvern]

Oh I see. The switches to apply effects to either mix are disabled.

[azure wing]

It gives me the option to turn it on or off at the top right

[solemn wyvern]

And on the mic they are on. So there you go

[azure wing]

AWWWWW ok

DOH

You're awesome, sorry been staring at it too long

[solemn wyvern]

Effects can be optionally bypassed on a per-mix basis… per channel.

[azure wing]

got it

Thank you SO much for being patient with me

[solemn wyvern]

So I see you have a lot of effect on the audio coming from zoom.
That’s pretty usual. You’re wanting to use those effects on the other people on your zoom calls?

[azure wing]

Hasn't been a very good day. I appreciate peeps like you that are so helpful, and patient.

[solemn wyvern]

Sure, that’s why we are here!!

[azure wing]

Yeah, it helps with the sound

I noticed I sound more like sir mixalot, well, Al Green at least

[rough sedge]

Does it matter whether my stream deck and wave xlr are plugged into usb 2.0, 3.0 or 3.1? I've been having all my usb devices crash so I turned off xhci hand off to reduce it to 2.0 and increased the pch voltage to see if that fixes it...the event viewer says elgato is crashing

[solemn wyvern]

2.0 should be more than enough speed for both of these devices, though the tech specs page doesn’t specify about the wave xlr

Stream decks don’t like to be plugged into hubs.
But I have my wave xlr in a hub and it’s totally solid.
I do use a hub with external power, though. It’s the current —not voltage— that would be an issue if a usb bus is overdrawn with too many devices.
I have seen not enough current do very strange things before.

[rough sedge]

thank you! I will continue T/S'ing

[proven raft]

So having this issue in wave link where i am not getting sound output from my capture card from the monitor mix, but when I switch from monitor mix to stream mix, sound starts outputing to BOTH the monitor and stream mixes, or at least i hear 1 but see two. See attached video. Any ideas?

Note: Looks like the video outputs sound the entire time, however I cannot hear it from my headphones, but seems to be outputing to the stream mix regardless what mix i select, i only am able to hear it myself via headphones if I select the stream mix as shown in the video

[solemn wyvern]

Hmmm, do you happen to have the monitor mix device disabled?

[proven raft]

nope i use monitor mix all the time even not streaming

and it works fine for my pc capture card and every other sound input, its just external capture card my console is on

[solemn wyvern]

Weirdness….. if you haven’t yet, could you try deleting that channel from wave link and adding it back in? And I presume you’ve restarted and everything like that already. @gritty jackal what do you make of this one?

[split crane]

Decided to reinstall my VSTs and properly placed everything into the wave link VST folder and that seemed to have fixed it.
I guess your first guess was somewhat right haha
Thank you for the help!

[pure wing]

And you made sure the device your listening to is correct in the dropdown for monitor mix?

[proven raft]

correct, as i stated in my reply to @solemn wyvern, ithe monitor mix works fine for all of my other audio inputs in wave link, just not that one. I was able to fix it by removing the device completely from wave link and re adding it, ive fixed it that way before, was just hoping someone know of a way for it not to be something I have to constantly do, but im kinda used to quirky issues with wave link at this point lol.

[pure wing]

have you ran the repair tool?

omg not yelling.

[solemn wyvern]

A couple of times this has happened with one of my channels, and the only way to bring it back was remove and re-add to wave link.

[azure wing]

So this happens every morning on bootup:
I have to shutdown streamdeck and restart in order for it to "see" Wavelink.

[solemn wyvern]

I bet they are starting up in the wrong order. If you’re launching at startup, try delaying it or something.

[tepid yew]

Hi

[azure wing]

❤️

[solemn wyvern]

Did that work?

[azure wing]

let you know in a few. I'm barely awake.

I'm not sure how to change the order

startup.bat?

[solemn wyvern]

I don't know. I've never had to do this. I bet a bat file could do it.

[strange hill]

Hihi! So, i've been streaming an no problem with the audio. popped in today to stream and there is no audio going to obs. There was a recent microsoft update, but i checked to the input and output settings and they're the same. Any advice?

The mic is picking up just fine

Figured it out. it was actually OBS.

Just had to remove the old stream mixer and reclick stuff.

[wild vine]

help

its all connected

[naive totem]

Restart PC or reinstall wavelink worked for me

Hello guys... i have a problem with wavelink. ive rolled back the software to an old version BUT my Game audio STILL doesnt work :( any ideas?

[placid eagle]

Hey guys

Could someone tell me how to stop the mic from cutting off my voice when I’m yelling

I noticed my voice disappears when I’m loud

Is there something I have to change in voice effects?

I don’t really know much

[naive totem]

okay if it cuts out while ur talking in discord.. this might be a discord thing bc it starts cutting ur voice if its too loud for other ppl.. IF u use wave link (and i think u do) u might wanna check if u have somethink with ur clipguard?

[placid eagle]

And one more question, if you using a mic that is connected with a USB cable, the wave link effects cannot be applied?

[placid eagle]

Nope not discord, my streams

[naive totem]

u can only use the wave link with a wave 1/3 or with an elgato audio interface :)

[placid eagle]

I unticked clipguard

[placid eagle]

Ahh ok

Well I got the XLR dock

I thought unticking clipguard will help

[naive totem]

XLR dock with stream deck +?

[placid eagle]

But still when i rewatch my streams

My voice disappears when im yelling

[placid eagle]

Yup

[naive totem]

then u have access to wavelink with every mic

The streamdeck+ is ur software key

[placid eagle]

My friend has only streamdeck and her mic connected with usb but in her streams i can hear her background noise even though we used noise removal effect on her mic

[naive totem]

u mind if we discuss this via DM?

[placid eagle]

Ok sure

[solemn wyvern]

If this is happening at a fresh instal, You probably connected it at the wrong time. Leave it disconnected until the app tells you to plug it in.
If you didn’t just install and it was previously working, you may have issue with your computer’s usb ports being overloaded, underpowered, or check usb selective suspend.

[solemn wyvern]

This is probably a noise reduction plugin.
(It’s not clipguard, you should be using clipguard to make your gain staging easier.)
If you’re using any kind of machine learning noise suppression, and you yell into it loud enough to distort the sound, it can read that distortion as noise.
Use a compressor and clip guard and set your gain staging correctly to prevent distortion when you yell, and this should reduce.
If it’s still not liking the sound of your yelling even if you aren’t distorted (check by disabling the noise suppression), then it’s a matter of “you get what you pay for” with free noise suppression. There are better plugins out there, but they aren’t free.

[placid eagle]

Could you give me their names please

[solemn wyvern]

Clarity VX from waves is the only one worth considering. It’s the best of the ones that are fast enough to use on a live mic.

[placid eagle]

Ok thanks

Elgato website doesn’t accept paypal payment righf

Right

[placid eagle]

I didn’t find it?

Nvm

Damn $50

[solemn wyvern]

It’s been on sale for as little as 30$ before. With Black Friday coming up….
If they offer a bundle as they often do, “maxxvolume” and “silk vocal” are the other two I would check out.
That’s my entire wave link mic chain right there.
You can try them for free also, to make sure it works for you.

[placid eagle]

So I should wait for black friday?

When is it?

[solemn wyvern]

They all stark long before the actual day now, but see what it is when they say their Black Friday sale is live.

[placid eagle]

Ok ty

[wild vine]

Tried that

didn’t work

[placid eagle]

What do you mean by game audio? As in Game channel on wave link?

[wild vine]

Could it be my version of windows? Bc I can’t use like any versions higher than 28 on obs
And I can’t download the latest Spotify version

[solemn wyvern]

??? Are you older than windows 10?!

[wild vine]

No no no lol

but I can’t update it

[solemn wyvern]

Then you’re fine. I’m using windows 10.
If you’re having trouble installing and running various apps, there must be something more generally wrong with your computer.
Maybe consider updating your bios and reinstalling windows fresh. Maybe you have accumulated some interfering junk and weird settings

[wild vine]

Like the version
Is windows 10 enterprise 2016 LTBS

Idk I’ve never seen that before this pic

[solemn wyvern]

Ok I don’t know what that is.
Enterprise version is a weird thing for a user to have on their machine. It might have specific changes made to it. Win 10 home is fine for normal use.

[wild vine]

Hmmm

[wild vine]

it was my brothers pc
Got it from work or something

[naive totem]

yup

[placid eagle]

@naive totem I keep my game audio on System, never added Game channel. Gna try doing that and see if it works. Now what is NOT working with me is the SFX. I added it and ticked the MicFX box and tried to choose it in COD MW3 and BO6 to be able to use the soundboard, but it seems like it is not working dno why. It does work on Discord

[crude cosmos]

Just out of curiosity, anyone has the stream deck + w/XLR dock connected to a powered USB hub?

If so, any issues? I only ask because I'm debating if I should use my last remaining USB port on my laptop or just have it on a powered USB hub (XLR dock arriving today).

Currently using my thunderbolt 4 Dell monitor (usb4 with windows).

[solemn wyvern]

Regular wave xlr works fine on a powered hub. Seems like it should be fine.

[crude cosmos]

Ok. I keep reading that it should be plugged into a PC directly. But I use a windows laptop for streaming and such. So I figured it's easier for cable management and simplifying my setup.

But it's running fine on stream deck + and wave xlr dock combo connected to my thunderbolt 4 monitor hub

[solemn wyvern]

I think they try to avoid some support calls because many people will try woefully insufficient hubs and wonder WOT BAD WITH MY ELGATO

[crude cosmos]

It looks beautiful from the back...

[spare oyster]

Is there a VST or some way to get it to reject audio from other audio tracks on my Wave XLR? I dunno, so my soundbar when in voice chats doesn't sometimes pick up other people's voices and put it thru my mic

[solemn wyvern]

No sir! That’s what headphones are for.
Microphones hear what’s in the room with them.

[spare oyster]

I'm beginning to lose trust in headphones in general. They keep breaking in a year or less even when I'm very gentle and careful with them.

[solemn wyvern]

Shrug. I’ve had the same ones since 2003… replaced the ear pads several times as those wear out…

[placid eagle]

@crude cosmos What is that white XLR cable? May I know the brand

[solemn wyvern]

I don’t know for Brian, but this is what I use and recommend. Many colors, lengths, and right angles available.

https://a.co/d/agtUeyL

[placid eagle]

Ty

[late jackal]

huh?

[silver knoll]

Make sure your Wave Link is updated. Then try completely closing Stream Deck and Wave Link and then relaunching them. Looks like the plugin lost connection

[gritty lagoon]

Can I Use an XLR Splitter to Connect One Microphone to Both the Wave XLR and Stream Deck+ for a Dual-PC Streaming Setup?

I have the wave xIr and I also have a stream deck + by purchasing the wave xlr dock accessory. Can I connect the same microphone to these two devices using an xIr splitter cable? This would be for a 2-pc stream configuration.

[gritty jackal]

Generally a bad idea, and if the mic needs 48V phantom power, very likely to cause damage - the two interfaces aren't expecting to be on the same electrical circuit, nor are they expecting to deal with the reduced split output from a mic.
You'd want a mixer with dedicated dual outputs, or to split your audio once it's converted to digital at the PC, generall.y

[cloud coyote]

If I buy the xlr attachment for the stream deck +, and a wave Xlr, with a di box, will I be able to have my guitar and wave dx separate in Wave link? I tried the Scarlett 4i4, and had nothing but issues with it. At first it was mixing the guitar and my mic on one channel, then when I plugged my guitar into the 1/4 inch jack in the back, I couldn’t hear the guitar, but I was getting raw input from the mic on the guitar input, so I ended up sending it back, and I’m now looking for a way to have both guitar and mic show up in wave link and windows as separate sources.

[solemn wyvern]

Two interfaces will work, but the the guitar interface should not be an Elgato one, since wave link will already be authorized by the xlr stream deck and a second wave device won’t be recognized.
Something like a hi-z guitar input from shure would do the job just fine, or even the Scarlett if you already have one, I think.
You can use any audio hardware as an aux channel in wave link, it just won’t recognize multi-channel from it. Get what I mean?

[cloud coyote]

Yes, I get it. I ended up sending the Scarlett back, but I may pick up a 3rd gen scarlett. Do you know of an interface that has a gain setting for the 1/4 inch inputs? The Scarlett 4i4 only had gain adjustment for the 2 front inputs, not the rear 1/4 inch ones. Ideally I'd want one device that would allow me to plug both Mic, and Guitar in and have them as 2 audio souces in windows. The other question I have is, does Wave Link Use ASIO or just the Windows devices?

[solemn wyvern]

The rear are line inputs on those, which is something you wouldn’t normally expect to have a gain adjustment. Nor can they connect a guitar anyway because it’s totally the wrong level.

Wave link does not have an asio driver, and again, it CAN NOT use multi-channel from any interface. You can add your audio device to wave link (replaces an aux) and it will receive the sum of the channels.
So this is why I suggest a guitar interface that is just a hi-z input and nothing else that you don’t need and won’t use.
Then you’d add the guitar to wave link by adding that device, and your mic is the wave device.

[cloud coyote]

Alright. Thank you for that. I'll look into something like that.

[solemn wyvern]

You could get some multi-channel interface with its own monitor mixer suite, that may have effects which might even be DSP, which is great for music as they aren’t host-based so there isn’t an input buffer latency to deal with.
… and then feed the mix from that into wave link where it can be mixed with other audio from your computer and streaming… but wave link won’t be able to see the individual channels.
Wave link isn’t focused on music production so they don’t have the asio driver with the sample-accurate timings and latency reporting that comes along with that for working in a DAW.
(I do audio production for my day job and I have and use devices like this is my studio, but not with wave link)

[cloud coyote]

Ahh ok. I was using VoiceMeeter Potato, with a VST host, and It got a bit complicated, not to mention I'd like to only use one program for VST and routing, if possible. I will try the Guitar interface route.

[cloud coyote]

Do you have a recommendation on a guitar interface? I've not been able to find one by Shure.

[solemn wyvern]

Hmm I thought they made one. Apogee was sort of the original so that is probably a decent choice.

So yeah I guess I’m just wrong about shure making that product. Don’t know what I was thinking.
But apogee jam is a good one.

Oh I see now. The shure things I was thinking about was the motiv line. Which seems to be discontinued.

[topaz flicker]

Hello, i would like to report that I when I launched Destiny 2 after upgrading to wave link audio 1.11.1, the game was stuck on a infinite loading screen. Downgrading my wave link audio to 1.10 fixed the issue.

[gritty jackal]

This is a community help channel - if you're looking specifically to report a bug, you'd want to go through #official-tech-support and the link there.

That's definitely an odd issue though. I can't see what would trip things up there unless Destiny's sound engine is oddly picky, in which case a restart might be enough to clear that after upgrading.

You might want to check out the 2.0 beta instead too, to see if it works there.

[silk lake]

Please watch the video Problem with Wave Link on OSX 15 Sequoia

[next fiber]

I will try this to fix my echo. Thank you for sharing!

[placid eagle]

Sometimes you need to go to Sound settings of the gaming PC and in the PLAYBACK disable the capture card then enable back. This is apparently a fix for my friend with his HD60x or whatever that one is called

[cyan widget]

i'm using wave link on a laptop, when i take the laptop out i don't bring my wave 3 lol, is there a quick way of routing all of my audio back to my laptop speakers? without disturbing my wave link config, so if i disconnect my wave 3, everything goes to my speakers, but if i connect the wave 3, it goes as i had on wave link

[solemn wyvern]

Everything will default to a device that exists, so it should all go back to that when it’s disconnected.
For restoring back to wave link, you can backup and restore mixer configs under the left click of the tray icon.
For routing apps, I’m assuming that won’t go back easily. I’d generally recommend setting windows default output to your preferred wave link channel, and then hopefully you’ll only have one or two apps that you want to go to a different channel.

[tribal lance]

It’s a glitch that Wave Link has with the new MacOs Sequoia. Elgato just released a new beta 2.0.2 wave link on their website under downloads, then pick beta and install that. It’s not perfect or glitch-less, but at least u can use it again. I’ve posted the link here, I hope that helps.

https://www.elgato.com/us/en/s/beta

[wispy sun]

Germany ?

[opaque shale]

Why does my Wave Link software not show presets? I even downloaded the Beta and they still aren't there, and there's also no plus in this menu either

Not sure why it's like this, but any help would be amazing since I'd like to be able to use presets and such

[solemn wyvern]

Update the plugin.

[opaque shale]

Wave Link has plugins?

And how do you update them if it does?

[solemn wyvern]

Yes, the eq you are looking at is a plugin you got from the marketplace. Go get the updated version

[opaque shale]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-facepalm-oh-no-gif-17961054

[solemn wyvern]

Hahaha! Don’t stress; it’s one of the very common questions so much that I knew just from the preview of your images! I think marketplace still doesn’t alert about plugins updates.

[opaque shale]

It doesn't, so I figured when doing an update it didn't give any notice I was like "What plugins? I don't have any updates."

[thorn magnet]

Anyone know how to fix this? This only happens with the Elgato EQ. It doesn't size properly to the window and you can't adjust anything. Once out of every 10 times I open it will it size properly.

[solemn wyvern]

I think that’s going to be same as above.
You can try toggling the gui resizing option in settings, or maybe delete and redownload the plugin file from marketplace.

[thorn magnet]

I've played around with the compatibility settings. The only way this works makes the program itself gigantic, lol

[terse glen]

how can i get Wavelink not to turn off my EQ and noise supression everytime i open the app?

[solemn wyvern]

Not sure what that means. Are you closing wave link?
It disables effects on muted channels, so if you mute the mic it will not be running the effects until you unmute.

[terse glen]

i have three

when i turn PC off and back on they are turned off

[solemn wyvern]

As I said above, the effects disable when you mute, so your mic is probably booting up muted at windows launch.

[thorn magnet]

I have this same issue. On PC start up I have to turn effects back on. Mic is unmuted. Effects do not turn back on by themselves.

except today, lol they were on.

[solemn wyvern]

Wave link is supposed to dissable effects when muted and they come back on when you unmute. My mic boots up muted and when I unmute my effects come back on.
In versions past there was a bug where this wasn't working but it was resolved by v1.9 that I'm still on. (And there are a few versions now past me, but these don't have features I need and some people have a few bugs with them, so I haven't updated)

[vestal mist]

Can not log into account on wave link.... not able to download anything from marketplace. I completley uninstalled the app including %appdata% data and all registry files. re insatlled newest version still cant log in to my account

[solemn wyvern]

can you log in on the web site? browser?

[flat thunder]

Hi all. If I'm using a single mic (wave 3) and strem deck plus (with wave link) on a 2 PC setup, should I connect everything to gaming PC or Streaming PC? Does anyone have an opinion on which? I currently use it on gaming pc side

[solemn wyvern]

I prefer wave link on the Game PC side, because you need things like voice chat to work right, and the low latency and mic-only output isn't needed on stream PC. But you might want your stream deck on the Stream PC, depending on what you want to control, if you want to control wave link with it, then you might go that way. In which case you have to route voice output back to the game PC to use voice chat in games, and note that your game audio will be a little bit latent that way, since you're hearing it after the capture card.
Or you can add a small analog mixer between the two PCs, to mix the game audio from game PC and everything else from wave link... into a headphone output for you. To solve the latency issue.

[solemn wyvern]

missed the ping

[vestal mist]

yes, and my stream deck is logged in and camera hub

[flat thunder]

So I can either duplicate the setup which would be ideal as stream deck isn't that much (especial black friday deals) and grap another microphone for audience so I can control OBS and other apps on the Streaming PC side. Like discord chat and apps and recording. OR put everything on the streaming PC side and just grab a mic for game chat and an analog mixer?

The way I have it now is everything hardware and software is on the Gaming PC side and I capture with my elgato to the streaming PC. So i would set up all my scenes in OBS on the gaming pc and then that goes to OBS through capture card using wavelink to the Streaming PC OBS in a simple scene and then out.

[solemn wyvern]

so... download from there?...

[solemn wyvern]

so, all the compositing is being done in OBS on game PC, stream PC is just encoding? Seems like a waste of processing, but ok. I don't run OBS at all on my game PC; main monitor is captured by the capture card and obs is running on the stream PC, getting the stream mix from wave link over HDMI. Alerts are routed back to Game PC over a 3.5mm cable.

And no, you don't need two mics for any of these setups. You just need to route anything that's needed back to the computer it's needed on.
If all your stuff is on the stream PC, you will need to route your mic (microphoneFX) over a 3.5mm cable to the game PC if you want people to hear you in game voice chat.
And if you want your game audio to not be latent, then you get a mixer to combine the monitor mix from the stream PC (leave game audio out) with the game audio from the game PC.

[flat thunder]

So for the 1st part the efficient way is to capture the monitor with the elgato and set up everything on the stream pc? Someone needs to make better videos on this as all the videos I've seen led me to set it the way I have it. I've been wanting release the resources on the game pc to just GAME. I've already followed the steps in the elgato guide to get the stream mix to the elgato capture card. My alerts are in botrix so i can set them up as browser sources on stream pc when I set up obs over there. Now I just need to remove obs on the game pc and run everything on stream PC.

The last part, I'm lost but will try to research routing the stuff back to the game pc

[vestal mist]

I can access the marketplace page to download the apps for wave link, I click on the download lets say "equalizer" or noise removal" click on open in wavelink and it does not apply it to my wavelink cause i cant log into my account on the wave link app

[solemn wyvern]

Your issue is you’re wanting to have stream deck control wave link, and the stream pc.
That complicates things but it’s not impossible. Just have to route some voice back to game pc.

[flat thunder]

ok, that's what I need to look up. If I put stream deck and wave link and mic on streaming pc then just find how to route that back to gaming pc

[solemn wyvern]

Line out of stream pc motherboard, to line in of game pc motherboard. 3.5mm cable.
You will need a ground loop isolator for that connection or it will get a loud buzz. (Because you are constructing a ground loop by connecting the computers more than once.)

[flat thunder]

🤔 I wonder if the chat link Pro cable I have will work?

[solemn wyvern]

That does have an isolator built in. But it’s a y cable, isn’t it? I don’t know. Isolators are like 8$ of that doesn’t work.

[flat thunder]

yes it's a Y cable so to speak. It has 2 ends and a break off for plugin in your headset

[solemn wyvern]

You need a cable with 2 male ends for this

[flat thunder]

@solemn wyvern Yes it has...So condensed. 1-Just put OBS and all your scenes and sources configured on Stream PC>
2- In OBS on stream PC setup Elgato Capture card as the source to capture you game from the Gaming PC. (Connect USB to capture card to stream PC and HDMI IN to Game PC
3- Connect 3.5mm with ground loop isolator 1 end to game PC input and 1 end to Stream PC Output
4- Connect Wave 3 | Stream Deck + to stream PC
Install discord and wavelink and app to stream PC
5- Setup wavelinK Stream Mix for audio as device in audio mixer

Lastly figure how to monitor audio from stream pc on the gaming pc via the 3.5mm cable I installed

Thank You Much!

[spare oyster]

I just got a steelseries arctis pro to replace my broken Rode NTH-100s. How do I configure its hardware with battery charger to work with wave link?

[solemn wyvern]

Oops, not quite, the 3.5mm cable is a return meant to cart your voice back to the game pc for game voice chat.
Set the microphoneFX device to “listen to this device on” the line out.

[solemn wyvern]

Those are known to be incompatible with wave link. Cause lots of problems and are sometimes difficult to fully uninstall.

[spare oyster]

hmm... the rodes sucked tbh. they sent me two units that both broke so I no longer trust rode for headphones

[spare oyster]

is there no way to get it working at all, or is it just long and convoluted?

[flat thunder]

On game pc right?

[flat thunder]

Sorry on Stream PC

[spare oyster]

I may have gotten it working somewhat, jn. I'll have to fool with it more tomorrow after work, loonnnggg day been out of the house for like 14 hrs

[flat thunder]

Iputs mentioned not lining up. So Do I need the Mic to stay on game pc. I moved everything to stream PC, So line out on stream pc, or go to microphone fx and listen to...?

[copper siren]

Hello, if in the audio output I set wave link system the volume does not work no matter how much I change it, does that mean that the audio output I should always choose the speaker I use or the headphones every time?

My keyboard has the volume button and I try to use that mode but there is no change when I am using wave link system output

Is not compatible with keyboard volume?

[solemn wyvern]

Their software has some mixer things in it that interfere or at least make things complicated.
Double mixers isn’t good usually.
But the headphones should work fine without their mixer stuff; just as a speaker output.

[solemn wyvern]

Yes with everything on the stream pc, we need to send just voice back to game pc. So we are repeating the microphoneFX device into the line out of the stream pc.

Properties of microphoneFX, listen to this device on,… set to line out. .

[solemn wyvern]

You’re correct to set you windows default output to a wave link channel, but your keyboard buttons probably won’t work for this.
Use your stream deck to control wave link.

[flat thunder]

So I need an empty channel on wavelink?

[solemn wyvern]

What?
MicrophoneFX is an output from wave link, with just your mic. It’s for voice chat. That’s why we are routing that through the line out to the other pc.

[flat thunder]

so just pluging the 3.5 and set the input to listen and that's it

[copper siren]

Thank you~

[solemn wyvern]

In the microphoneFX properties. Yes.
Then on game pc make sure windows is using that line input as its microphone (default input) so games see that as your mic.

[flat thunder]

ok. Thank You. that solved it. I just have to keep OBS open when I'm playing games

[solemn wyvern]

This has nothing to do with OBS. OBS doesn’t matter to this. Only wave link.

[flat thunder]

Ok. I couldnt hear sound until i opened obs. Not streaming. Just playing a game

[solemn wyvern]

Wave link monitor mix: select your headphones there.

[flat thunder]

The old elgato legacy software for hd60 capture card had a sound software for this stuff lol

[flat thunder]

Gotcha👍

[solemn wyvern]

Wave link is still the boss of your audio world.
If you were monitoring through OBS you set something up wrong there.
The only sources that should monitor in OBS, are sounds that OBS made, like alerts.

[flat thunder]

For obs i only need on stream pc now so thats a plus

[flat thunder]

Ok so in obs set my botrix alerts and stream mix and thats all? Well thats easy!

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah and only your alerts are set to monitor. Everything else should be output only. Because you don’t need to hear the stream mix

[flat thunder]

I think i put the wrong end of the gound loop isolator in the wrong pc. Let me swirch them because i hear feedback on the stream mix and not the monitor mix

[flat thunder]

Alerts are monitor and output and stream mix is input and set to monitor

Thanks for helping. Its huge!

[solemn wyvern]

No…. Only alerts are monitored stream mix in output only

[solemn wyvern]

The isolator doesn’t cause echos, anywhere between the two pcs will make it work. It just lifts the electrical ground.

[flat thunder]

Sorry i said that wrong typing

[flat thunder]

Ok. Then i will need to get a different isolator. I had an old and didnt try the chatlink cable since it was late and that cable was burried

I will get the isolator and try again. Should i mute anything in my wavelink in stream pc with this setup

[solemn wyvern]

It goes on the 3.5mm line from stream to game. Because that’s the analog connection you have.

Just make it sound the way you want. The mixes are up to you.

[flat thunder]

I meant so audio isnt doubled

[solemn wyvern]

You will need to add the capture card as a channel in wave link or you won’t hear game audio.
But no, there is no audio loop.

[flat thunder]

Understood. Doesnt matter which in just input to output correctly

@solemn wyvern Thank You so much

[spare oyster]

Ah, yeah I'm still using wave link as the primary mixer.

I did end up having to change wave links monitor mix to the steel series to get it to play audio.

Would I still be able to use the spatial audio feature though? Or would that mess things up again

[rain goblet]

Sonar WILL brick pretty much anything

so don't

[solemn wyvern]

I’m pretty sure the spatial stuff is the main reason it interferes with wave link.
Highly recommend you use the thing as just a dumb headset. You can send the monitor mix to it! Just don’t put sonar on the computer unless you’re not planning on using wave link.

[spare oyster]

seems I can enable "Windows Sonic" in the headphones properties window, I dunno if that'd enable it without their GG software?

[spare oyster]

yep sonic seems to work, so yea I can remove GG from startup so it doesn't run

[gritty jackal]

Should just be find disabling Sonic inside GG too, in the settings too. But whichever works

[dull rover]

None of my game audio will come out through any of my channels. I thought is was a problem with my Razer Synapse software but then I realized after Uninstalling the software I was still not getting any game audio UNLESS I would start the game on then go into the SOUND MIXER and then change Output to one of my WaveLink inputs and then I would no longer get any audio EVEN after I would change it back to DEFAULT

[dull rover]

Browser Audio and Music Audio, Including any Audio from my Microphone and Discord Voicechat Audio works fine but then the only Input and applications that dont work are Game Applcations and Game Input from WaveLink

[urban umbra]

Elgato microphone frequency response graphs when

[solemn wyvern]

Make sure by testing the game device in sound device properties first.
If it doesn’t play noise during that test, then some users have had a bug with the game channel in the latest version and we are recommending going back to 1.10 or you could try the upcoming bare version.

[solemn wyvern]

Don’t understand what you mean, here.

[somber patrol]

Hello, I'm using Wave Link, but I'm encountering an issue. I can separate my tracks and adjust them for myself or for a stream, but the overall sound on the stream is quite low. I have to boost the audio track of Wave Link by +20 dB in OBS for it to sound right.

Is this normal, and is there a solution to this problem?

P.S.: Note that I don’t have this issue when not using Wave Link.

[solemn wyvern]

Make sure all the wave link devices are at 100% in windows sound device settings. Both the recording and playback devices.
The levels won’t be the same for anything that isn’t at 100% there. Basically you want to feed full level to the wave link mixer and then do your mixing in wave link, this will be the easiest to understand and keep track of, rather than adjusting levels in more than one place.

[somber patrol]

Thanks for your reply

Everything is already at 100% in sound device settings, even the global sound of the computer 😦

[solemn wyvern]

If the sliders in windows sound settings are at 100%, and the sliders in wave link are 100% then the volume will be equal, with or without wave link.
Another thing to check might be windows audio enhancements on the properties tabs for each device. Things like any kind of Spatial Audio or isolation or other processing.

[urban umbra]

Was waiting for someone to get back to me at one point with the frequency response curves for some of the mics

[dull rover]

How can I go back software?

[main mantle]

download old version

[solemn wyvern]

Uninstall and then install the version you want. A whole version history can be found if you look. Google is your friend.
Note that if you have other interactions like stream deck, you will need versions that are coincident with each other for them to be compatible.

[violet lodge]

is anybody experiencing weird crackling in the sources connected to Wave link? including the microphone?..

It is definitely Wave link having some weird interactions, because as soon as i remove music / browser / voice chat sources from their respective programs, the crackling stops in the audio.. but i can't really do that with the microphone.. so my mic is essentially useless

[rain goblet]

Crackling happens when there's a mismatch in bitrate and frequency of the audio, or when your buffersize is set incorrectly. So I suggest checking those first

[flat thunder]

Hi if anyone can help answer a question or 2. i want to make sure my 2 pc stream setup is correct, because if it is I would need to research what could be wrong with my audio. bare with me it's my 1st Dual PC setup.

Streaming PC - Elgato 4K X | Stream Deck + | Wavelink | Speakers
(ignore Game Channel, I will record somethimes from this PC)
I put a channel for my elgato 4K X
I conntected HDMI to Graphics card on Gaming PC, other end to INPUT on 4K X
USB C to Streaming PC

Gaming PC - Wave 3 Mic | Wavelink | Heaphones into Wave 3
AUX 1 Channel is for Analog Audio
In Audio settings in Recording Tab I went to properties on the Wave Link Stream and Selected Listen tab and checked "listen to this device" and Chose Elgato 4K X (Nvidia High Def Audio)

Additionally the Aux 1 channel in wavelink:
I connected a 3.5mm cable with ground loop isolatior set to ON (Tried OFF but was terrible) to the input (blue) in back of motherboard and the other end to streaming PC out (green).
Then in sound settings on Gaming PC in Record tab The "Line In" properties I chose "listen to this device" and chose the Aux 1 Channel since nothing uses that channel
*In Wavelink at the bottom I selected my Headphones (Elgato Wave:3) for monitor Mix & Elgato 4K X under stream Mix. **I Also muted the AUX 1 (Stream mix)
This Aux 1 channel is for my Alerts to come in from my Stream PC

Is there anything else I should do before I proceed to setting up OBS?
Is there any channels on EITHER wavelink that I should Mute (Stream Mix or Monitor mix)

Thank You!

[rain goblet]

whoa wall of text xd

[flat thunder]

I thought I'd try to be thorough with exactly what i am in need of Help/Confirmation about

[rain goblet]

I'm completely lost when it comes to dual setups, but I need to learn eventually because that's my plan too. But it looks correct?

[violet lodge]

Changed buffer to every option available under the wave link settings but there is no change, still hear the crackling, is there any way i can see where this mismatch is?

I am using a FiiO e10k with the system audio routing through that

[rain goblet]

It's this window, and then properties and check the Advanced tab

woops

this window

and then this

Try changing settings around, make sure the bit and hz matches everywhere

[flat thunder]

Im getting weird audio. Everything set to 2 channel 48000, but speakers only let me output 2 channel CD 41000 so im assuming that my audii issue

[rain goblet]

Could be yeah if that's the only mismatch

unless you're mixing bitrate also, 16 vs 24 etc

[flat thunder]

And i cant set system as the default for some reason on the stream pc with speakers as main output so yea

[rain goblet]

I use Game as the Default output because some games don't follow the rules, and this way I don't have to route new games I wanna try either 🙂

[violet lodge]

i can go to 32 bit 382Khz via my amp, but setting everything to the same 24bit 48kHz doesn't change anything sadly

[flat thunder]

Happened after i plugged in analog cable

[rain goblet]

Then it's probably a groundloop you're hearing?

like buzz

I'm going to bed, it's midnight xd nighty

[flat thunder]

Ok

[solemn wyvern]

What does “main output” mean here?

Yeah ground loops are when there is more than one connection between the two devices. Its electrical.
The ground loop isolator floats the ground across that connection with a transformer so it can’t electrically loop.
The buzz will be much, much quieter with that in place.

[wicked veldt]

Hi guys, i've just gotten the Wave XLR and shure sm7b, when i open Wavelink, i dont see any input, theres no green bar rising.

[flat thunder]

meaning here. If I set it yo System then I get a yellow mark in wavelink under Monitor Mix at the bottom

And i understand your point on the isolator. I'll try moving away from everything

[solemn wyvern]

Gain up? Check xlr cable.

[flat thunder]

I got to a better play @solemn wyvern. sounds a little better. The lag between what I hear and what the stream mix isn't so bad

[solemn wyvern]

The yellow mark might mean you’re routing system default into itself. Monitor mix might also be set to system default?

Show wave link

[flat thunder]

I had both at the same speakers. I'm an idiot. Now I'm wondering if I really don't care for game chat if I should move the mic back to the stream PC to remove the lag

[solemn wyvern]

That’s how I have it. The issue I think for you is you’d be giving up stream deck control of either wave link, or OBS… right, because the stream deck has to be on the system of the thing it’s controlling. …so if you split wave link and OBS onto different systems you can’t control both.

But I don’t have a stream deck on my gaming/streaming setup.

[flat thunder]

I have my stream deck + on the streaming PC and I moved the mic over to the gaming pc so I can heave wavelink on both system, but I'm wondering if it's worth it now. It's about 1/2 second delay

So either put them both on the streaming pc and have no wavelink on gaming pc and no game chat (could care less) or get another stream deck or another mic

[solemn wyvern]

So if the mic is on game pc, then your headphones need to be on game pc to hear game audio without delay

You never need two mics

[flat thunder]

the mic wave 3 and my headphones plugin into the back of them and it's a delay when I hear the actual game without headphones through my speaker that are on the streaming pc

So when the game is playing out the speakers on the stream pc it's faster in time then what I hear in my heaphones on the gaming pc out the back of the mic

so i just need to turn off the pc speakers🤣

[solemn wyvern]

So… turn the speakers off…. You don’t need to monitor the game sound on the stream pc; that’s just for the audience

Haha

[flat thunder]

that's what I said. I was checking how far behind it would be

[solemn wyvern]

You’re gonna be an expert by the end of this.
Any of 4 wiring diagrams you’ve tried them all

[flat thunder]

Was I supposed to mute anything in wavelink other than the channel on the game PC

the stream mix on aux (the alerts come through there by way of the 3.5mm jack

[violet lodge]

slight bump on this, if anyone is familiar with the issue

[solemn wyvern]

Well the important thing here is the two mixes.
Monitor = mute what you don’t want to hear.
Stream = mute what the audience shouldn’t hear. So that will include the alerts, since they already hear those, and maybe system sounds. You get the idea.

[wicked veldt]

Gain is up, all is up, i can hear myself, just no green bar.

I've also tried setting google's output to browser, when i start the video, it doesnt even run

[solemn wyvern]

As Och said earlier, crackling can be buffer errors, or bit depth mismatch that isn’t correcting fully.
Try making sure all your devices are on the same sample rate and bit depth, and make sure your buffer settings aren’t too low for your system. (96khz sample rate will make this much harder, just use 48 as there’s no point to 96 anyway)

[solemn wyvern]

Seems like you might just need a reinstall.
Or try removing the channel(s) from wave link then and re-adding it.

[wicked veldt]

This just worked @solemn wyvern

[violet lodge]

setting everything to 48khz didn't change the issue unfortunately

[solemn wyvern]

Ah, starved for current. Yup

[flat thunder]

@solemn wyvern I had an epiphany. NOT really. But... When I am not streaming I listen to spotify from then streaming PC on my speakers. AND. When I am streaming put an input track for music in obs and that way I can listen in real time with the audience and just not play music from my gaming PC

🤣 solved. Now I just got to get obs setup and that as as simple as setting up scenes and choosing the default audio as the stream mix in the scenes I want anything to play. No need to st up mic since it's all coming from the Elgato 4K X

Too bad I loose Game Capture. I have to remember to show anything on screen

[solemn wyvern]

Right.
And anything you play on speakers will be heard by the mic if it’s loud enough. Which won’t be exactly in time with what the audience hears so. Depending on how loud you play it…. You might check out what that sounds like by making a test recording.

If it’s quiet enough it might not matter

[flat thunder]

oh, I don't ever use my speakers during a stream

well unless I mute my mic, but very rarely

now I have to figure out what is supposed to be the default input defvice on the stream pc, since there is no mic there, although I don't think it matters. In discord, I can use stream mix i believe

[solemn wyvern]

Doesn’t matter. Yeah

[flat thunder]

thank so much again!

[wicked veldt]

After i've done all of my eq's and stuff, which input do i choose?

For the applications

[solemn wyvern]

MicrophoneFX.
You can set that as your system default input, too.

[flat thunder]

@solemn wyvern if i have a video on my streaming pc what audioo source do i need so everyone can here it

like i dont know what to use as a monitoring device or how to ouput since everything comes through the capture card

[solemn wyvern]

As it to OBS as a media source. It will be video and audio. Set the audio to be “monitor and output” and it will play to the audience and to your monitor device, which you routed to the line back to your game pc so you can hear it. Same channel as the alerts

[flat thunder]

👍

[wicked veldt]

Youre a great help, one more question.

I have my audio settings pre determined for music in WaveLink, when i choose, a audio output source, i choose the wavelink_music. But it is SOOOO loud, when i listen its so quiet.

[solemn wyvern]

I’m slightly confused by the way you worded this, but I’ll try to clear up what might be the confusion.

If you add “wave link music” as a source in OBS, then your OBS is hearing the source of that music, not the output from wave link. So the volume faders in wave link won’t control the volume that OBS hears.

If you want to use wave link to control the volume of things in OBS, you need to add the wave link stream mix to OBS, not the individual channels wave link uses.
Then you’ll be able to balance the mix to your liking in wave link stream mix, knowing that is exactly what OBS hears.

[wicked veldt]

I will get back on this tomorrow, again thanks for the in-depth answers!

[solemn wyvern]

Ok!
Yup, because this picture, I see individual audio things added to OBS. That means wave link has no control over those levels. You’ll have to control the volumes the audience hears with OBS if you add them like that.

[dull rover]

anyone experiencing issues where the Wave Link Game not able to make a test sound is just overall not working?

[solemn wyvern]

Some are in the latest version. Recommend rolling back to v1.10 if that happens to you. Or you could try the beta.

[plush pendant]

Hey folks! Just picked up the Wave XLR and downloaded Wave Link. However it doesn't seem to open (I'm on Mac), does anybody have any suggestions? 😄

[solemn wyvern]

Check the compatibility chart to make sure you have a version that is tested against your macOS version.
After that, did you connect the device too soon during install, try installing again and only connect when it tells you to.

[twilit marten]

any mac users here use wavelink?

[fringe blade]

I still can't for the life of me figure out how to fix the GUI not showing up for audio effects. I have my graphics drivers up to date. I have uninstalled wave link and not saved the settings and reinstalled probably 10+ times. I have completed removed the VST's and resinstalled like 10+ times

[solemn wyvern]

Have you toggled the gui resizing setting off and on again to see if that wake it up?
My go-to move for this is deleting the vst DLL files and re-downloading them…

Are you using a mismatched version of wave link and plugins? Like a beta with an old plugin? Or an old wave link with a new plugin version?
Throwing out everything I can think of.

[fringe blade]

The files that I'm getting from the marketplace for the audio effects I have completely deleted and reinstalled

In my VST3 file is only two items

I can open the Reaper plugin windows just fine

[noble maple]

Hello, I very recently have invested into the Elgato ecosystem. I have a Wave XLR, Stream Deck + and the XLR Mic. However, I need some help as my Audio is really choppy and distorted when Wave Link software is open (with no VSTs Installed, I already tried deleting them just in case), I have also increased the Buffer size to Large but to no avail. Could someone reach out to me to assist?

[solemn wyvern]

If you’re set to 96khz, drop that down to 48.
Check your windows sound device properties to see if anything is turned on in the audio enhancements. Stuff like voice isolation or whatever windows calls it, or maybe even spatial stuff. Anything like that… windows likes to turn that crap on when it shouldn’t. (Which is almost ever)
If none of that is the issue, check task manager to see any thing looks like it’s sucking a lot of CPU resources. If you see high utilization anywhere, or on the individual cores if you see a really spiky graph or one core that’s consistently high.

[mental yew]

i experience the same when I use nvidia broadcast noise removal (the VST). I already set nvidia control panel of wavelink to prefer maximum performance but there's an post processing artifact in the end of every sound I made. Using nvidia broadcast app solve my problem, but is anyone experience the same with vst version?

[solemn wyvern]

That nvidia noise reduction plugin is notoriously buggy. It works fine for some but if it doesn't work for you, I know of nothing that ever solved it.
For me it worked fine excpet that the process uses about 3 time as much GPU resources as if I do the same thing with nvidia broadcast. So it doesn't seem like a solid implementation.

I use a better noise reduction instead.

[noble maple]

Thanks and thanks for your previous comment. I will certainly try them. I’m not using the NVIDIA plugin just the normal elgato one atm. So thanks @mental yew for your comment too.

@solemn wyvern What noise reduction are you using instead?

[solemn wyvern]

Waves clarity VX.

[oak dagger]

#stream-deck message
i think i can kinda put this here since its wave related too

[unkempt oak]

Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'm trying to download the equalizer program from the elgato site and it's just stuck on loading after selecting 'GET' on the product page

[solemn wyvern]

Is the browser showing the “open wave link” prompt? Probably try signing out/in to marketplace in wave link. Maybe check if the DLL file is making it to the vst3 folder and just the browser is what’s getting hung up?

[unkempt oak]

no its just shows the loading ring after pressing the get button

ive tried it on multiple browsers

[night tide]

so im looking for audio stuff for a dual pc setup i was wondering if its worth getting the wave mic and XLR and a used elgato capture card. would it be easier to setup beacuse they all have the same manufacturer

[solemn wyvern]

Wave mic and wave xlr aren’t compatible/overlapping products; those are one or the other. Either get a usb mic like wave 3, or a wave xlr to use with a xlr mic. (Wave dx is elgato’s xlr mic)
With regard to capture cards, elgato’s are premium like all their products, but there isn’t anything about having your capture card and audio interface from the same company changes anything there.
They work great, but don’t work any less great paired with a different capture card.

[sick pelican]

I would not say their cards are premium. I have an Elgato 4K60 Pro and a AverMedia Live Gamer Ultra along with an Elgato 4K X and a AverMedia Live Gamer 4K 2.1. I have done back to back comparisons with each. AverMedia had better colors in the shootout of the HDMI 2.0 cards and with the 2.1 cards neither company's cards can properly capture 120hz 4K passthrough recorded at 4K60, the Elgato has significant color banding and AverMedia has slight color banding but microstutters in the recording. So @night tide if you want to play 120hz games then capture on a single PC without a card or if on consoles... Just don't as there is still nothing on the market that does the job.

[fallen dagger]

Hi, Do anyone know the difference between wave panel bleu & wave panel white ?

[solemn wyvern]

One is blue, and the other is white.

[fallen dagger]

That all ? because the bleu is 50€ (without discount) and the white 120€ (without discount too)

[solemn wyvern]

Are you sure you aren’t looking at different size kits? (Number of panels)

Stock and prices might be different for different variations and regions might also vary. In the USA as I look right now the blue starter pack is $60 while the white starter pack is $100

[fallen dagger]

no both have 6 wave panel in the box apparently

On the US store blue one is 60$ and white one 100$ so i supposed it's only the color that change and my contry that loose their mind xD

It's only because i don't know what to choose between the mic arm LP or the mic arm Pro
I look over and over and i can't decide myself which one to choose

[solemn wyvern]

Could be a stock issue, could be that blue are older and they are discounted

[night tide]

I play in 240 hz on a resolution thats under 1080p (strech res)

Would that be able to run smooth

[sick pelican]

Then I think the older cards can do higher refresh in 1080? Pretty sure the 4k60 pro MK2 can do it, just steer clear of the 2.1 cards for the time being.

[fallen dagger]

Okay thanks

Did anyone have a opinion about th mic LP or the mic LP pro ?

[solemn wyvern]

As I understand it the main thing with the pro is the gas piston spring. So it’s steady if you move it around, without needing to tighten down the nut.
Where the original needed to be tightened down and was less mobile, or maybe just made more noise if you did move it

But considering the deep discount for Black Friday, go for the pro. It’s a very good deal compared to other boom arms of similar quality.

[fallen dagger]

Yeah you are probably right, even if in my contry they're is not a discount on the pro itself yet (only on the bundle) it's still a good deal to have the panel with it (and the faceplate of the wave xlr is not a thing very necessary for me)

Now i have to choose either the black or the white stream deck +

[fallen dagger]

Well, the XLD bundle LP pro is order, i hope i will succes to have it this time, apparently my ordering problem has been resolve, can't wait to receive it

[past furnace]

Hello.

Does anyone with the Beta Wave Link software experience the issue of only one slider being effected when output is set to all for the streamdeck+ dial?
This does not appear to be an issue on the non-beta version of the app

[solemn wyvern]

Do you have the beta streamdeck plugin and software to go with the beta wave link?
If so, betas gonna beta…

[fallen dagger]

Wait, they're is a beta and a no-beta version ?

[pure wing]

yes

1.11.1 is the current, and the beta is 2.0

[fallen dagger]

omg, how can i turn this on ?

[pure wing]

what are you trying to do?

[fallen dagger]

Having the beta version i supposed ? usually it's more buggy but more complete

i don't know if it"s a good idea

but i must be something to try ? x)

[pure wing]

https://www.elgato.com/de/en/s/beta

[fallen dagger]

Thank youuuuu

so the 1.11.1 is a beta too, but the 2.0 is more beta ?

[pure wing]

No, official 1.11.1 and Beta is 2.0

[fallen dagger]

Oh ! okay ^^
And what do you think about beta ? Is that a good thing to try or too buggy ?

[pure wing]

I've been using it. as for buggy, expect it to crash from time to time. I think it's better to wait until it releases as many people have already tested it, and some lose a game channel, etc. and the bugs are being worked on. however, if you dont' care, proceed.

[fallen dagger]

Okay thank you, i'll wait the releases if you think it's better, don't want to loose things in the middle of a live of a class

[pure wing]

yeah, that wouldn't be good. best to wait. 🙂

[drifting summit]

hello! I have a question. I use this software on my desktop and just got it for my laptop to use with the stream deck +. However for some reason when audio plays it only shows through the "stream mix" and no actual audio happens at all.

The bars above the "browser" or "music" tabs dont move and the monitor mix shows no sound happening. The stream mix indicates that sound is happening but I get no sound

can anyone help me troubleshoot this? I am sure that its something minor and silly like I am forgetting a button but still .

screenshot showing stream mix finding the music thats playing through the "music" link but I dont hear anything and obviously music and monitor mix show nothing happening

nm needed a restart

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah that looks like a turn it off and on again...
Sometimes this can be fixed by removing and re-adding the channel

[past furnace]

I am using the beta plugin for Streamdeck+

[lusty spindle]

Hey all have a question if anyone has an answer! Hopefully lol! Been looking all over but can’t seem to find an answer yet.

I have a dual pc setup. Stream pc has the internal 4k mk.2 capture card. I have wave link running on the game pc to send audio to my stream pc. On the game pc I have all my audio channels set up on wavelink (game, chat, music)

When using streamlabs obs on the stream pc all the audio comes through under 1 audio source (the capture card)

So yes it does pick up all audio and i can hear everything from my stream pc through my IEM’s that are plugged into my elgato wave 3.

Question is!!! I want to separate the audio on streamlabs obs so i can use their “audio tracks” feature so when I have recordings/clips I can remove audio that i don’t want included.

How do I go about setting this up properly :(?

Hopefully my post makes sense lol! Thanks in advance

[rain goblet]

Stream Mix that you can send to your capturecard as I suppose you already have it set up, so it's just 1 audiotrack from your gamingrig to your streamingrig, so the way I would do it is to mute the Music channel in Wave Link so I can play music without it going to the VOD. There's currently not multiple outputs, but it's coming "sometime".
Let's also shamelessly tag @gritty jackal which is great at capturecards

Ideally you only want the Game audio from your gamingrig going through the capturecard anyhow and have the rest of your audio on your Streamingrig

[lusty spindle]

Im referring to this btw guess i should have mentioned

[gritty jackal]

Once things are mixed into the stream mix, that's it, there are a sinale audio stream and there's no separation. Likewise anything passing through that 4K60 Pro Mk2 is going to come out as a single audio feed.
What you'd have to do is send the specific audio sources you need separated over to the other PC as a different output. Eg you could run one feed via an aux cable from a Line Out to Line In, or you could use a third party app like Voicemeeter Banana with their VBAN network transmission to send over multiple feeds.

So this isn't really something you can do via Wave Link between two PCs. If it were a single PC it's partly possible by using Audio Output Capture to grab the Wave Link inputs (this bypasses any processing on them like volume control, but does let you use them as multiple virtual channels to workaorund input for OBS)

[rain goblet]

On a Single PC, I have Wave Link Music muted for the Stream Mix, and using an Application Audio Capture of Spotify so I have it as a separate audiotrack in OBS so I'm able to have it on Audio Track 2 which is sent to the VOD so I don't get DMCA'd

[gritty jackal]

Yeah, if you can move the other audio source over to the streaming PC that does make things easier

[lusty spindle]

Yeah noticed in sound control panel all the different “wave link” audio channels that i probably could have figured out on single pc setup lol. I did see ways in all my searching online that people can do it when they have a “GO XLR” in their setups. But im not spending that much money for one 🤣

[rain goblet]

Ages ago I wanted one, after I discovered Wave Link I no longer want one xd

[lusty spindle]

Yeah definitely, wave link is awesome for that for sure.

[lusty spindle]

So say for discord chat, my wave 3 mic and headphones are connected to my game pc, but if i were to use audio sources from stream pc to be able to seperate the tracks. How would I be able to chat on discord?

I “love” audio….. said no one 😂

So on my game pc i obviously have my game audio, am currently using discord on the game pc cuz i have the elgato 3 pedal foot pedal

On the stream pc that is where i do play music

[gritty jackal]

Audio gets to be a headache because it's what people think is going to be the easy step. But there's so many things you can do with it, and so many ways to do it, that it gets really complex quickly if you're not careful.

As for the Discord, that's going to be tricky.

Unless you're moving both Discord and the mic over to the stream PC

[lusty spindle]

100% it does! I have had so many headaches trying to figure it out hahah

[lusty spindle]

If i were to do that, then no way to do in game chat to trash talk the ppl i pwn on warzone then eh?

[rain goblet]

[lusty spindle]

Too bad can’t have wave link on both stream pc and game pc, and have them showing exactly the same thing, so you can do all changes on the stream pc 🤣 that would probably solve so much

[gritty jackal]

If you can get another feed from the gaming PC to the streaming PC other than the HDMI you could use Windows "Listen to" option to send the mic feed over to the other machine, to be able to use the mic on both

something like the 3.5 mm aux

or VBAN

[lusty spindle]

Hmmm now we are getting somewhere haha, ill have to take a look at my setup, pretty sure i have a 3.5mm aux going from my line out (stream pc) to line in (game pc) to be able to hear my stream alerts and anything on my stream pc

[rain goblet]

Once I'm ready to deploy a streamingrig I think I'll pick up a used Wave:1 or Wave:3 mic so I can use Wave Link on StreamingPC aswell xD

[lusty spindle]

Yeah at one point i think i was using a wave 3 on my stream pc and my headset mic on the gaming pc haha. But now I have IEM’s so no headset mic

But yeah maybe in the future they can come out with an elgato wave link update to be able to run wavelink on both pc’s to have the available for audio tracks on a stream pc lol

[solemn wyvern]

The one thing you’d have to do if you still wanted to separate music is to run it over on a 3.5mm analog line. You can use “listen to this device on” in properties of the music channel device, to mirror it to the line out.
You’ll need a ground loop isolator if you set that up.

[lusty spindle]

Kk sounds good! Thanks everyone for all the quick replies

[gloomy fiber]

Hello, every time I turn on the PC the Wave XLR configuration is lost
I set up the 48V, the colors of the lights, the effects, the gain of the microphone, I click on save in the Hardware and when I turn on the PC again nothing has been saved
I have deleted the WaveLink folder in AppData and saved the profile manually and it still does nothing, that is, it is not saved and I have to configure it every day
Is there a solution I have had the product for a while and this has happened to me from the beginning

[solemn wyvern]

Your firmware is wrong (it’s tricky because some new units have been shipping with the wrong firmware, appearing to be newer than the latest)
Hold ctrl and click the mic channel name, you’ll see the update firmware button.
Do that update, then you’ll be all set with the correct firmware. (You may note the lower version number)

[outer fulcrum]

Hi @polar flume moving your request for help over into here:

nooms — Today at 4:52 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/1h13n93/high_cpu_ram_usage_constant_network_connections/ does anyone have any insight?

Wavelink connects to the Elgato Marketplace, which might be accounting for some of these network connections you're wondering about. Equalizers, VSTs and other wave link plugins can be managed through your Marketplace account and directly installed into the Wave Link software.

I went ahead and forwarded your reddit thread to the team so they can have a look about the memory leak. If you keep running into more issues I would also recommend opening a support ticket, as that team can also help assist with error logging and passing that information along to our devs.

[polar flume]

I appreciate it. I expect it to want to connect for some things like you said (marketplace & updates) I've just never seen a program try and make so many connections all the time (thousands per minute)

[solemn wyvern]

do you have any vst plugins on?

[polar flume]

Yes I'll go boot up the PC in a minute and let you know which, I assume if they're not being actively used it doesn't matter? Otherwise I'll just upload the full list of everything installed

[solemn wyvern]

While your mic is muted they will be disabled. But that doesn’t mean one couldn’t misbehave.
Point is, those will appear within the stack of processes that your app there lists as wave link.
Click the arrow in task manager to expand it. Might give you more info about exactly which process is running up all the ram.

[polar flume]

https://i.ibb.co/WNCMhYT/VDz-RJ29h0-K.png

https://i.ibb.co/wh9p6Vv/Taskmgr-2-Oh-Li-ATvm-I.png

unfortunately task manager doesn't really show any extra info

[solemn wyvern]

Oh… well I thought it did. Oh well.
So, time to start removing those one at a time and see what changes!

If anything. Might not be a plugin, but that’s a good way to tell

[polar flume]

fully uninstall or just remove from the active pool?

[solemn wyvern]

I think just take it off any channels. Probably need to close and reopen wave link.

[polar flume]

Disabling them/removing didn't work but I did find something but I'm not IT savvy enough to know the meaning

https://i.ibb.co/Y85QV2w/System-Informer-qtbta-EYJ5-Y.png

When I terminate the Qt6Core.dll all is fine, CPU usage is low and doesn't prevent my microphone working.

Now I just need to find out what it does

[solemn wyvern]

Is that DLL in any of your plugins folders?
I’ve not heard of it. Plug plugins are DLL files

[rain goblet]

QT6 is a framework used to make the Elgato apps afaik

I just know it says it inside all the apps but not really sure what the framework is for really

So perhaps deleting all the Elgato programs and files and installing them from scratch can fix it in case something went wrong with it

[frozen helm]

are risers available for the mic arm LP? I know it was introduced for the mic arm LP Pro

[full chasm]

Hi there, just an FYI for those who have high CPU with Wave Link software even if you're not using the elgato nvidia noise suppression. What finally worked for me after communicating with elgato engineers is this:
``
The dynamic port range was not correctly configured in Windows in my case.

You can check on the commandline with

netsh int ipv4 show dynamic tcp
The result should be:

Protocol tcp Dynamic Port Range

Start Port : 49152
Number of Ports : 16384
If there is another range defined you can set the correct one with:

netsh int ipv4 set dynamic tcp start=49152 num=16384

'`
source: https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/t4ap71/comment/ipyizy1/

basically windows was giving incorrect dynamic port range, which ended up wave link having high CPU and not being recognized in stream deck software (in stream deck it says "please launch wave link" when it's already launched)
hope this helps!

[lost stream]

Anyone ever try painting a wave 1?

[hard crown]

anyone here use Rvox compressor?

[small edge]

i cant download wavelink from the website

anyone had the same issue

[solemn wyvern]

I use waves plugins in my mic chain.
R comp is great but what you should be looking at from waves is maxxvolume, which contains the rcomp compressor in a simpler to use form, along with a bunch of other great dynamics control features.

[small edge]

this what happens when i try to download wavelink

[small edge]

i just got the stream deck + with the XLR dock

the Wave DX

but it wont let me install the software

[solemn wyvern]

I can’t tell what’s happening in this video. What is there audio here but it’s not to do with your issue?
Anyway, have you tried turning it off and on again?

[small edge]

ive restarted my pc

no fix

and i was watching a vid

but when i click the windows installer

it pops up for less then a second

then closes itself

[solemn wyvern]

Is your device connected to the computer? It shouldn’t be for installation.
You might have a corrupted installer downloaded, or something on your system is interfering with the installer. Delete and get a fresh installer from the official site, the retail release.
Restart a few more times, close or don’t open any background apps (some RGB software that auto launches can do weird things, for example)
Stuff like that.

[frozen helm]

Should I get a foam windscreen for my wave dx mic? I've noticed that I can still hear some explosive P's when i speak right at the mic

[gritty jackal]

It may help a bit, but you can also consider getting a third party pop filter to put in front of it - the ones on a gooseneck that clamp to your mic arm tend to work fairly well.

[frozen helm]

oh is there one that you would recommend?

[gritty jackal]

If it's only very mild plosives you're getting you can try the windscreen.

Also consider looking up mic technique and positioning, as these can help too. Generally I keep my mic around 45 degrees to the side of me - that way it captures audio from my mouth, but the main rush of wind when I make a popping sound goes to the side of it, instead of into the capsule, that that goes mostly forward.

Not offhand - personally I'd check local music stores to see what they have. Most of them are fairly similar.

[frozen helm]

the pop filter for the wave 3 wont be compatible with the dx?

[gritty jackal]

It is not - it mounts to the Wave:3 via the side screws. DX doesn't have those.

[frozen helm]

i see im going to look into the positioning of the mic, i think adding the windscreen might make my sound more muffled which is decreasing the voice quality?

[gritty jackal]

It can affect the tone of voice at times, yes. It shouldn't make it too muddy, but can make it deeper in tone as the foam muffles more of the high end, for example.

It'd be a very subtle change though, unless you have a really dense or thick windscreen

[frozen helm]

sounds good! thank you for your input

[gritty jackal]

No problem, good luck with it!

[solemn wyvern]

To add to this, Technically, The foam covers aren’t for plosives they are for mild wind at most. A pop screen needs an air gap behind it to work right.
I’d suggest trying to just move the mic off to the side a little bit and see if that takes care of it. Make the puffs of air just miss the mic!

[frozen helm]

do high density foam covers affect sound quality?

[solemn wyvern]

High density will definitely absorb high frequencies. Yes

Wind covers are very low density, open cell foam. Those are fine to use but might not be as effective against plosives as a real pop screen, or just moving the mic a little off direct path.
Position: the most effective pop screen!

[frozen helm]

sounds good, thank you!

[solemn wyvern]

Omg Elgato is asking just $70 for the dx right now?
That’s wild. Great mic for anybody and at entry level prices.

[gritty jackal]

Am debating adding one to my setup for the work machine. So many things I want to buy - so few I should actually be buying

[solemn wyvern]

Isn’t that the way….

[gritty jackal]

Prompter sits in my cart, taunting me. But I'm out of USB ports

And already have multiple hubs

I should really upgrade the PC first

[solemn wyvern]

Haha!

[solemn wyvern]

Waves always does a Black Friday freebie and this one might be another great tool for use in wave link. (like silk, from last year) this one is a compressor with some intelligent auto-frequency stuff in it. They said there is a low latency version which is what we would care about here.
(I haven’t put through paces yet but free is free)

https://www.waves.com/black-friday-2024/free-plugin

Their demo looks like it would get a lot of people to where they want to be maybe without any additional eq.

[rain goblet]

Bunch of stuff i want, plugins, prompter, keylight, capturecard, sd pedal, xlr dock...

i wish i could win the lottery xd

[twin parrot]

I just got a Stream Deck + and I'm really struggling trying to setup individual audio channels. I'm sort of bottle necked at recieving my own mic audio and I can't find any tutorials with what I'm working with. Could anybody help me setup Wavelink and potentially linking my Stream Deck+?

[solemn wyvern]

Do you mean monitoring your own mic in your headphones?
That’s something on an audio interface can do. If you got the xlr dock then you can monitor your raw mic audio.
If you just have the software, it can’t monitor mic audio without latency so you’ll want to use your audio interface to monitor your mic.

[shy token]

can any one help me with set up

[solemn wyvern]

Only if you describe your problem in detail!

[dull rover]

does anyone know why when Im listening to my game audio in my monitor Mix its coming out super staticy but when I listen to it in my Stream Mix its clear?

[dull rover]

using a Logitech Pro X Headset btw

[turbid summit]

anyone recommend using the beta of wave link or not really?

[viscid fern]

Yes

It's been stable for me

[turbid summit]

guessing to install it i need to remove the current verison of wave link. Do I also need to install the stream deck plugin beta for it next to the download button if I own a stream deck?

[viscid fern]

You shouldn't need to uninstall the current one

https://www.elgato.com/us/en/s/beta will have the software and the plugin

[turbid summit]

cheers

[solemn wyvern]

Look for Andy windows audio enhancements in the sound device properties.
Check sample rate and bit depth of all devices for mismatch.
Any plugins that are set to run only on your monitor mix?

[small edge]

tried all of this

non works

still doesnt want to open the download for me

[gritty jackal]

If the installer is still failing, I'd generally reach out to #official-tech-support to see what's going on at this point - though it's also possible to view the installer log like you see them doing for Stream Deck here: #stream-deck message

You could also try a previous version from here https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/sections/4913442828941-Wave-Link-Release-Notes
Or the beta version from https://www.elgato.com/s/beta

[small edge]

done both beta and old and it still does the same thing

and i cant look at any log because its crashing before the install even happens

[gritty jackal]

It should log WHY it closed

That's why you have to run the installer with specific instructions that make a log

[small edge]

closes that fast it doesnt log it closes

[small edge]

but the installer dosent do anything other then open for less then a second then close itsself

i have no "specific instructions" to follow

it may as well not even open

i dont have anything odd open that could stop a download

its not on my pc already

i have unplugged the mic

i have unplugged the XLR dock

nothing works

i have tried everything that i have been asked to try and nothing works to even get more then a second out of the downloader

[gritty jackal]

?? Did you not click the link that would take you to the Stream Deck channel and show you an example of how to invoke the installer to generate a log?

[small edge]

thats what this is

thats what i did

it closes so fast that it doesnt even log a close

[gritty jackal]

Okay, if that's all the logs are giving you you're going to have to reach out to the official support team to have them look into it. You also tried the previous versions like 1.10?

[gritty jackal]

Then I would reach out to support to take a look at this point

Only other thing I could suggest is try installing something else to see if the whole windows installer service is borked

But if it's just Wave Link, I'd go through support

The empty log makes me think Windows installer service might be messed up here, but that'd be a more general tech support issue if it is

[small edge]

any msi file i have tried to download just now from the website

nothing works

but i have things like cam hub

stream deck

control centre

they all downloaded for me but that was around a year ago

[gritty jackal]

Yeah, if no MSIs are running the Windows installation service is likely broken on that PC. I'd probably try System File Checker https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/use-the-system-file-checker-tool-to-repair-missing-or-corrupted-system-files-79aa86cb-ca52-166a-92a3-966e85d4094e

If it's Windows 10 or earlier there's an installation service troubleshooter to, but I'm not aware of a Win 11 version. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/fix-problems-that-block-programs-from-being-installed-or-removed-cca7d1b6-65a9-3d98-426b-e9f927e1eb4d

[small edge]

yeah im on win 11

[gritty jackal]

Yeah, try the sfc scan then

[small edge]

did the scan

it said it found some corrupt things and fixed them

but the file will still not download

[gritty jackal]

Don't forget to reboot the PC after that

[small edge]

oh okay

[gritty jackal]

If it still doesn't work you might need to run a repair on your Windows installation

[small edge]

yeah idk how to do that

would ihave to fully reinstall windows

and do like a fresh wipe

[gritty jackal]

It's pretty much installing Windows over the existing one to repair any services. Some apps like VPN and security tools might need to be reinstalled after. If you'r not already familiar with the process it might be better to take the thing to a shop though - this can break some apps like security apps or VPN

[small edge]

could i not just do a clean wipe of all my files

and do a fresh install

[gritty jackal]

If you'ore willing to do a completely fresh install and have your stuff backed up that's probably a better option, yes

[small edge]

okay

i dont really have anything on my pc that i need to keep

it would ghet rid of old clips and vids and my editied photos

but i have most of them on a sd card

and i can always relog into apps to get back games

[gritty jackal]

Sounds like a plan then - a fresh install should give you a working installer service

Can rebuild it all from there

[small edge]

i do have a drivers and windows update

do you think any of that could change anything?

[gritty jackal]

It might

for example if it's the 24H2 update it replaces a lot of system files - could fix the installer

Doesn't really hurt to try except maybe some lost time

[small edge]

is 24H2 is broken for tabbing in and out of fullscreen games?

or did they fix most of its issues

[gritty jackal]

Most of what I've heard was audio issues so far, so I'm not familiar if that one was fixed or not

Wait they broke Alt-Tab entirely?

What on earth

[small edge]

yeah

when i was in a fullscreen game

[gritty jackal]

10 second delay on it on some sysetms while the screen is black

[small edge]

it would make both monitors go black and have a huge delay and freeze

[gritty jackal]

Ugh, I though macOS 15's update broke some stuff. How do you even break Alt-Tab

[small edge]

even when my desktop was 1920 and the game was 1920

everything goes black

and then a freeze

[gritty jackal]

It looks liek disabling Windows Game Mode fixed it for some folks

[small edge]

then a mouse inmput delay/lag

i rolled back my 24H2

because of that

but i might go to it when everything is fixed anf good

[gritty jackal]

looks like it's supposed to have a fix now https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/october-24-2024-kb5044384-os-build-26100-2161-preview-5a4ac390-7c7b-4f7f-81c2-c2b329ac86ab

[small edge]

second settings

that could work over a clean wipe

[gritty jackal]

Worth a shot, yes

[small edge]

.exe files work fine

i wonder if elgato are going to swap at somepoint to .exe files

[gritty jackal]

Typically companies go the other way from exes to msi files if they're going to switch

[small edge]

exe is just better and newer tho

idk why they would swap to MSI when its older

[flat thunder]

Hi all. I'm back for more questions on 2 pc setup.
I noticing that although I thought the lag wouldn't bother me by having my mic and stream deck + on my streaming PC, but the delay in the game is getting to me in shooters.
I also can't use game capture in OBS

I've been told here and noticed a lot of videos show having the mic and stream deck + on the gaming PC and installing OBS on both PC's.

For anyone that use 2 instances of obs on both PC's does the Projection method work for you?

[lime yarrow]

i had to update wavelink recently (to current, 1.11.x) due to some issues and the issues got resolved, but now wave link loads incredibly slowly after reboots. it seems to take a couple minutes to finish loading in, setting up all the virtual channels (they all have the little yellow caution sign and 'activate' one or two at a time), and then the very last thing it does is actually hook into the proper output. prior to this it'd usually load so fast that even the windows startup sound would play through a wave link output. it's livable just... weird. need to make sure i turn speakers off so the default volumes don't blast through suddenly until it settles down. i've tried a full uninstall/reboot/reinstall/reboot and nothing changed, has anybody else run into this?

[gritty jackal]

EXEs have been around since DOS, they're definitely not newer

[glad glacier]

in my setup of wave link i mostly use my headset as output, well i recently got speakers that connect to my pc via USB how can i intergrate that into wave link and switch between the two with my stream deck+

[gritty jackal]

Assuming you're set things up to run thourgh Wave Link monitor output, use the Wave Link "Device" action. Set it to Toggle Output Device and chose the speakers and headset as the two options.

[glad glacier]

thanks! i guess i keep trying to do it via a dial insted of a button so it wasnt showing up to swap between the two.

[dry rock]

what is the latest wave 3 firmware

[solemn wyvern]

@twin parrot this is the place to ask questions about elgato audio stuff. Not DMs, thanks.

By setting your default input to monitor mix, you are telling windows to use monitor mix as the microphone for apps.
Your default input should be microphoneFX.

[rugged cedar]

How can I apply a VST to the full Stream Mix output from Wavelink software? Specifically, I'm using iZotope products, and I'd like to use Relay so I can carve out space for my vocal within my full stream mix. When I try applying one to the input in OBS it doesn't show on my Microphone's iZ Nectar interface as a selectable Relay, whereas when I apply Relay to a single source (eg browser) in Wavelink, it shows up just fine. I want to apply a single Relay to the entire signal and be able to have those mapped together live so I can automatically ensure my vocal is always present and not cluttered.

[solemn wyvern]

There is not feature for plugins across the mix; only individual channels.

[rugged cedar]

Why would that not be added? It seems like a pretty useful feature to omit

Disappointing, but understood.

[solemn wyvern]

The long- requested feature we are still waiting for is sidechain connections within wave link, which is typically used for what you’re trying to achieve here, while being compatible with the intended typical workflow of wave link, where your mic is included in the stream mix. …which also makes it compatible with 2pc setups and doesn’t require a specific 3rd party processor to have created that workflow.
So never say never! But yeah we have been requesting side chain for years and it’s still not a part of the upcoming v2.0 (if the current beta is any indication)

[rugged cedar]

Great, glad to hear that it's at least on the radar albeit by the sound of it not actively being worked on

Thanks for the swift response!

[wanton sparrow]

Anyone have issues with wave link plug in for stream deck, both software are up to date . but my wave link controls keep dropping connection for some reason .

[proven needle]

Does anyone else notice a significant metallic resonance within their microphone monitoring while using the Elgato Wave:3? I am also noticing latency in the monitoring compared to my $20 Samson microphone.
It's almost muffled yet metallic, the monitoring sound.
Makes me sound like.. a robot in my own ears actually. It's like a robot filter.

[solemn wyvern]

You’re routing your mic to the monitor mix, which is latent since it’s going through the host buffer and the mixing with the direct monitoring, which causes comb filtering.
Mute that and just use the direct monitoring

[proven needle]

I have my IEMs plugged directly into the microphone?

[solemn wyvern]

Is this in response to me?
That’s got nothing to do with it.
Mute the mic from the monitor mix. Headphones icon on the mic channel.

[proven needle]

It has been, if it were on I would be doubling and that is even worse.

[solemn wyvern]

Right so, doubling is what causes the sound commonly described as metallic. Comb filtering.
If you have it muted already, where is the doubled monitoring coming from?
What if you mute it from the stream mix?

[proven needle]

I don't think it's doubled then, not sure. I am glad you know your stuff, good audiophile sh*t.
Still getting that robotic droning monitoring tone with a touch of latency. I do not have "Listen to this device" box checked in the "Additional Sound Settings" under the sounds tab in my system settings.

[solemn wyvern]

Ok one more thing: what happens when you turn the pc/mic mix all the way to the pc side?
Or does it sound any different all the way to either side?

[knotty fulcrum]

Hello ! I got a litle probelm with my new Elgato Wave 3 can someone help me ?

Like when i plug the Wave 3 i dont have any sound
i followed some guides and videos
but
nothing is working

(I got a wireless headphone )

[solemn wyvern]

In wave link, pick your headphones in the monitor mix dropdown box.

[proven needle]

Leaning it left does yield a bit of an improvement but it is still not great, I have the gain set to three on the microphone.
It seems to almost be alleviated when I turn the gain up on the microphone and turn the mic mix to favor PC over monitoring, though still loudly due to the gain being higher.

It still sounds near-thin.

[solemn wyvern]

So, I’m thinking something is up with this…
Because all the way on the pc side you should have no mic what so ever.
And all the way to the mic side you should have only direct monitoring, with nothing else mixed in.

So unless something isn’t working right, it shouldn’t be possible to hear your mic at all when it’s on the pc side.
Know what I mean?

[proven needle]

Oh, it's not all the way to the right- sorry.

I just have it leaning more PC side.

[solemn wyvern]

With nothing else changing, the sound of your mic monitoring shouldn’t change when you move it from all mic to the middle. (Maybe the volume, but not the sound)
Does the metallic sound change when you do that?
And don’t hear your mic at all when the slider is all they to pc?

[proven needle]

I do not hear my microphone when it is all the way to the right focusing PC side, correct.
The sound doesn't really change, it's quieter so it's a bit more.. tolerable?

[solemn wyvern]

Ok, so it seems to be working right in that sense, and now I’m wondering if you might just be hearing a flutter echo in your room or something. Large flat surfaces in your room? Or is it acoustically treated at all?
Or if this is some artifact of your particular IEMs sound?
Can you connect different headphones to try?

[proven needle]

My room is not treated and there are not large flat surfaces in here, not echo either. I do not hear this when using my Samson Go Microphone's monitoring on any pattern, especially cardioid.
I connected a pair of Astro A10s and that robotic noise is still present. I don't think it's a power issue either.

Where do I increase the volume of microphone monitoring without adjusting output volume in general?

[solemn wyvern]

The pc/mic mix controls the balance between direct monitoring and the monitor mix from the pc.
Then you have a separate headphone volume control overall.

I’m just not sure.
Is there any other apps open? Anything that could be doing something with sound, like OBS?
I’m just not sure. Normally when people say metallic thin sound it’s comb filtering from double monitoring.

Could your wave link install be messed up?

[proven needle]

No other apps that would be causing interference at all, install could be wonky? I talked to support and they said to reinstall it.

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah uninstall, and just to be sure, wipe out the $user/appdata/elgeto/wavelink folder between the reinstall.
This feels weird like maybe corrupted settings or files so want to be sure those are really gone.

[proven needle]

Reinstalled it, I still sound like I'm in a box.

The actual microphone quality is great, unscathed. The issue is the monitoring, music still sounds normal through here, just not the monitoring.

[solemn wyvern]

hmm.. it has to be double monitoring and comb filtering, then... Just can't see where it's coming from

[proven needle]

It does sound like a sort of double monitoring but I can't find where it's coming from either.

Is there a way I can reset the on-board firmware on the mic?

[solemn wyvern]

hold crtl and click the mic channel and you should see a firmware update button. I suppose it's possible that was mixed up...

[proven needle]

WHAAAAA

[solemn wyvern]

Ok well at least you know something changed! haha! The software belives it's a different device now. So disconnect and restart

[proven needle]

Had to close the program and re-open it

Still sounds thin. What a weird issue.

How does yours sound?

[solemn wyvern]

Mine is always normal, unless I turn on software monitoring to the monitor mix. I have a wave XLR but that doesn't matter.
And I actually don't use the direct monitoring at all anyway.

tell me this. does the latent copy you hear get more latent if you put a bunch of effects on the mic? Because it should. See how many you can stack in there and if the sound changes at all.

[proven needle]

The thing that's throwing me off so much is, I can't really discern whether or not its a copy. Usually I can tell instantly. Are you talking like compression and things of that nature?

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah if what’s happening is that it’s software monitoring to you even when that’s muted, the software monitoring will contain any effects you use. So you’ll be able to hear those effects.
Also the effects will add a small bit of additional latency so the copy will get more and more latent the more you add.
But this might tell you something.

If it’s working as it should, the effects won’t change anything in your ears if the mic is muted from the monitor mix.

So if you put an eq on and do something really big in the eq. And you can hear that change in your headphones…

[proven needle]

Maybe it's not that it's latent it's that weird sound I am hearing that's disturbing me

[dry rock]

what's the latest wave 3 firmware?

[proven needle]

1.2.2

[dry rock]

ty

[dry rock]

hi guys when i stream my screen on discord people can hear themselves is there any way i can fix that?

[solemn wyvern]

Is your monitor mix set to “default”?
Try choosing your output device directly. Discord will use the windows default device as its source for screen share audio.

[solemn wyvern]

The latency would be imperceptible on its own, but enough to cause comb filtering, as I said.
Test if you can hear the plugins effects to know for sure.

[rain goblet]

Disable the 2nd one in Audio/Video settings in Discord

because Screen Share makes Discord capture itself also

[dry rock]

thx

[hollow crater]

Turned my computer off last night, everything was fine. Turned on my computer this morning and all my virtual inputs/outputs are gone (and all the custom plugins I had -_-)
v1.11.1 (2824)

How can I return my settings as they were before?

[gritty jackal]

Restore one of the auto backups - https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/articles/23241485123213-Elgato-Wave-Link-Backup-and-Restore-configuration

[hollow crater]

I'll give that a try. Thank you.

Any reason why the program may have done this so I can make sure it doesn't happen again?

[gritty jackal]

Windows updates seem to have triggered a few resets recently, if there was one pending when you shut down that'd be my bet

[hollow crater]

Hearing my music with my custom equalizer is making me significantly happier. Thank you!

[gritty jackal]

No problem, glad you were able to get it restored!

[hollow crater]

[solemn wyvern]

I bet windows is changing the unique identifier for the virtual devices.
Just a guess but I think it’s a good one.

[proven needle]

I can’t unless I listen to stream mix, is that what it’s called?

[solemn wyvern]

Or if you unmute the mic from the monitor mix?

[placid eagle]

Hey guys

I have an issue with Geforce Experience recording my videos with no sound, only my mic. I chose "Wavelink stream" as source but there is still no sound

Any idea how to fix it

Ok it doesn't even record my mic, no sound at all

[proven needle]

Unmute it where?

[solemn wyvern]

The sliders with the broadcast antenna icon is the stream mix, then you’ll see the total sound level of the full mix at the bottom where it says stream mix.
You can audition (listen to) this mix temporarily by clicking the green ear icon for that mix, to verify if contains what you want.

[solemn wyvern]

The bottom of each channel is icons for monitor mix (headphones) and stream mix (antenna)

[proven needle]

That boxy noise I am hearing only applies on my voice, no other sounds. Perhaps it's just the way my vocal timbre interacts with this microphone? I am not sure.

I have muted both and I still hear myself

[solemn wyvern]

Could be.
If it doesn’t record that way, then it’s only in your monitoring so I can’t hear it and diagnose any further.

[proven needle]

It is 100% only in my monitoring

[solemn wyvern]

If things are working correctly, that’s because of the direct monitoring, which is on-device and doesn’t pass to the computer at all

[proven needle]

The microphone sounds 40% worse on the monitoring than it records, which is completely opposite to my other microphone, I hear how it records.

That's why I asked if there was a way to reset the on-board firmware but that doesn't seem to have done anything.

[placid eagle]

This reply wasn't meant for me right

[solemn wyvern]

Yes, It was for you if I pinged you.

[proven needle]

Is there any way I can stop listening to the monitor mix? I can't deselect the green ear at the bottom.

Or- perhaps I wouldn't want to do that.

[placid eagle]

Ummm but what does that have to do with geforce recording my screen with no sound? Everything in wavelink is fine but for some reason geforce acting weird

[solemn wyvern]

If you turn the mix volume all the way down then you should be hearing nothing from the computer at all: only direct monitoring

[proven needle]

👍

[solemn wyvern]

I’m describing how you would check that the mix is as you want it to be.
I can’t just take your word that your mix is fine, when you came here with an issue. Show me your wave link, please.

[solemn wyvern]

For purpose of checking it.
If you can still hear anything from the computer when the monitor mix is all the way down, then something is routed wrong. And that might be your issue.

[placid eagle]

My streaming PC getting all audio as it should so I assume there is no issue in Wavelink

[proven needle]

I hear nothing from my computer when that mix is all the way down.

[solemn wyvern]

Then it might just be that you don’t like the sound of direct monitoring?
I’m not sure, because there’s no way to demo what you hear

[proven needle]

Right, that's what I was saying. It sounds nothing like it records and I find that peculiar.

[solemn wyvern]

Why are we talking about a stream pc when before you were asking about gforce experience?

[placid eagle]

I meant the sounds are there working fine so I assume Wavelink is working fine @solemn wyvern

[solemn wyvern]

So there is no problem?
If there is a problem please describe it fully, because I’m not understanding it.

[placid eagle]

When I try recording my desktop of my gaming PC with geforce experience, it records video with no audio

Or maybe it’s because the audio is being sent to my streaming pc, therefor it is not being sent to geforce experience?

Like the stream mix cannot be sent to 2 places at once?

I turned my streaming PC off but now my gaming pc monitor is off

[solemn wyvern]

Oh yeah, if you select a hardware device for stream mix, then it won’t send to the virtual device.
(This is to avoid latency)
So if you want to record the stream mix on the game pc you can simply toggle that mix back to “no additional device”

[placid eagle]

Aha ok, makes sense, thanks

Ok my gaming PC monitor won’t turn on

Nvm

It was on HDMI and not DP

[proven needle]

I can't imagine why they'd have made the microphone monitoring sound so thin and unlike it records.

[solemn wyvern]

Probably don’t turn it off. If it’s mirrored the pc might change to a different primary, or it might change modes like that.

[solemn wyvern]

They don’t. It sounds totally normal like the raw mic. Direct monitoring just doesn’t contain any effects.
Unless something is wrong with yours.

[proven needle]

Do you think I should try to exchange for a different unit and see if that is the issue or is that not really worth it?

I ordered mine on Amazon and I know Amazon products sometimes have lower quality standards than if you were to just order it directly from the storefront's webiste.

I tried two closed back headphones and two in ear buds and it still sounded as I had described.

[solemn wyvern]

Amazon doesn’t make or QC the products or get a different production line. If the seller is Elgato then it’s a new product just like any other. (Who told you that?!)
Anyway, I don’t know. Since it’s only in your headphones I really can’t verify what you’re hearing.
I guess exchange and see if the next one sounds different. Could be you got a dud!

[proven needle]

I have ordered things from storefronts websites then the same thing on amazon and the quality was lower, there's also a plethora of threads discussing the same inconsistency on the internet.

I'll see what I can do.

Also if you want support with some products you purchase on amazon and you go to the company's support they redirect you to their Amazon team for support as if it's a whole different branch that deals with Amazon stuff particularly because it.. might be different? Maybe?

Sounds doable Dre, there may be some noticable latency.

[solemn wyvern]

I use Amazon for the easy returns, you can still talk to Elgato support before using the Amazon return.
Anyway, they get the same products.

[proven needle]

Affirmative. I've emailed Elgato support and had one response two days ago, emailed them right after, and nothing since. Granted, it was Sunday yesterday and it is around the holidays.

[inner locust]

can someone help me

im having trouble with wave link on my mac

[inner locust]

nevermind i got it to work

[worn flax]

So I was working on some things regarding EQ and Compression on my Microphone, and when I went to stream I realized that the actual audio is being affected by the EQ and Compression as well. I am not sure why this is, and if it's ok for me to send a clip I can send one to explain.

(I don't have any audio filters on anything but my main mic input. Game and other audio inputs do not have a filter.)

I was going through a recent vod when I noticed it, and I don't know how to fix it.

[solemn wyvern]

If the effects are on the mic channel, then most likely you’re wrong.
But to confirm it you should make some quick recordings with the effects on, and then another with the effects bypassed.
But to get to what might be set wrong, what is your audio source in OBS?

(Wave link doesn’t have the ability to add effects to the whole mix)

[worn flax]

My audio source is the Wave Link Mixer (i.e. Stream Mix). I dont have them separated due to having the Elgato VST being used on Wave Link and not my old VST.

I can send a photo of what my Wave Link looks like, as it's just the effect icon that's green on the microphone and all others do not have an effect attached.

[solemn wyvern]

Ok, yup. So that’s all correct.
The effect is only applied to your mic.
If you have some effect on the audio source in OBS, that could be the culprit.
But wave link is not able to apply effects to the full mix.

[worn flax]

I might have to double check and see if the VSTs are removed on the OBS end. I could've swore i had them removed. This is why I don't do stuff while sick

[worn flax]

I found out what it was... again this is why i don't do stuff when I'm sick. Thanks 🙂

[solemn wyvern]

I assume it was in OBS, right? Since that matches the behavior you described.

[worn flax]

Yeah. It was OBS.

[real yacht]

On MacOS with latest Wave Link software - suddenly my MicrophoneFX channel isn't working anywhere, and Wave Link isn't showing any waveforms when I speak into the mic. The OS itself and apps detect the mic, and are detecting incoming sound when I switch to it directly, but it appears anything Wave Link related is just... dead? I did an uninstall-reinstall to no effect.

[solemn wyvern]

Which macOS version? Are you using the beta wave link, or latest retail?

[real yacht]

latest retail - OS 14.7.1

I'm trying another full uninstall and going to beta to see if that gets anywhere

[solemn wyvern]

Hmm. Don’t know then.
Sorry. I guess no harm in trying the beta

[real yacht]

it was working for about a second then it stopped again

[wet briar]

I read on reddit that if my wavelink isn't saving settings to roll back the firmware now that I did it my wavelink app isnt detecing my wave xlr and its not turning on

[solemn wyvern]

Is it saying disconnect device? Like there are two?
Normal troubleshooting stuff like restarting and unplugging everything, reinstall wave link…

[wet briar]

it says connect a compatible deivce

its all hooked up as u can see

[wet briar]

nvm it fixed it self I guess? I click the knob on the wave xlr, and then the app prompted me to update firmware and I did then it works just like it used to

and the firmware is 1.3.1 which i think is the one that doesnt have the issue of saving settings, cuz initially my issue was that 1.3.4 would put my gain all the way up to 20 instead of 12

where can I find the json settings file I can probably just adjust it there and it will save for good

[solemn wyvern]

Yes some of them seem to have gone out with an incorrect, future firmware that causes this and a couple other issues.

If your firmware update failed the first time I’d be a little suspicious of your usb port being on top heavily a shared bus, or if it’s a hub make sure it has external power.

… there is a button in the mic channel settings pane which saves settings to the device. No json needed. (Nor would it probably work, since the service doesn’t reference a file on your computer, but rather settings are actually saved to the hardware)

[wet briar]

I clicked that button every time I made a change but it literally switches back to 20db everytime

its like that buttom doesn't actually save

the USB is connected to my PC directly, which has a mosue a kb a camera and the wave xlr, so no heavy bus'

[solemn wyvern]

That’s the bug with the future firmware. Once you have the correctly updated firmware it saves to the device.

[wet briar]

what the "good" firmware

I currently I am on 1.3.1

[gritty jackal]

1.3.1 is the latest good one

er

that's the wrog reply tagged sorry

[wet briar]

these are the settings from the json file

mixer configurations

[solemn wyvern]

Hold crtl and click the mic channel, then click update firmware. That will fetch the correct one.
I suspect yours didn’t update correctly the first time.

(And cameras use a lot of data and we can’t be sure how much current your motherboard is providing, so don’t assume that’s sufficient)

[wet briar]

what is that gain lol

[solemn wyvern]

Mixer configs are in software not hardware.

[gritty jackal]

Floating point number, likely converted in the app. Not really meant to be human readable in the settings JSON

[solemn wyvern]

Hahah there is nothing you want in that json file, man

[wet briar]

I have a 850W psu and a z790l, think I am more than good besides its a webcam that isn't being used (elgato stream cam)

[solemn wyvern]

Your psu has nothing to do with it

[wet briar]

so I should be all good with 1.3.1

also for the firmware, it prompted me to pick a dtfu file

and there were 4 in the elgato file

I picked one of em and thats when it bricked

[gritty jackal]

That is not an expected step

[solemn wyvern]

Mmmm it should be fetching the firmware from the internet. It shouldn’t ask you for anything

[gritty jackal]

Do you mean a dfu file?

[wet briar]

These are the current version

[wet briar]

yea

[gritty jackal]

Wait, Wave:1? Did you rename that?

[wet briar]

nope i just say that my self lol

[solemn wyvern]

Oh boy….

[wet briar]

??

[gritty jackal]

Wave:1 is a different product - you may have flashed the wrong firmware. You held CTRL down when you hit update too for file selection, didn't you?

[wet briar]

yea

that's just a name tho

back then i changed the name to just blue sona

[solemn wyvern]

Totally different device.

[wet briar]

which is the mic I am using

[gritty jackal]

Which file did you use? If this is Wave XLR you should have used wave_xlr_firmware.dfu

[wet briar]

OH NO

I might have clicked wave 1 lmaooooooooo

[gritty jackal]

I'm surpised it let you, if you did, tbh

[wet briar]

I mean I ended up removing the app completely

and reinstalling

[gritty jackal]

I'd go thorugh it again like jnTracks suggested earlier, use the Wave_xlr file this time to be safe

[wet briar]

then I moved my elgato folder back to appdata

which I guess is why it let me in

cuz I jsut installed it

and then I returned the file

and it basically just over wrote the settings with my old ones except the firmware

hmmmmmm

so what I do now

[gritty jackal]

Reflash the firmware again with the proper file

[solemn wyvern]

I think you might be confusing wave link and the device hardware still, but ultimately we need wave link installed in order to flash the correct firmware.

We think you need to do it again and this time select the wave xlr firmware. Right @gritty jackal ?

[wet briar]

how

cuz if I click ctrl on the firmware now it doesnt do anything

[gritty jackal]

Even when holding CTRL down?

[wet briar]

yea

[solemn wyvern]

Hold crtl when you click the mic channel. Then hold crtl again when clicking the firmware button

[wet briar]

it opened this

when I clicked firmware

also what file back up should Isave to not lose my settings before i do this

[gritty jackal]

go to C:\Program Files\Elgato\WaveLink\Firmware

[gritty jackal]

use wave_xlr_firmware.dfu

[wet briar]

before I do that

what files should is ave

save*

[gritty jackal]

Are you trying to back up an effects chain or all of wave link?

[wet briar]

EQ settings, compressor settings noise gate settings and uhh

all the configurations

[gritty jackal]

Effects chain would be your plugin settings, go to the effects list hit add effect and export the chain

Then you can backup everything else with https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/articles/23241485123213-Elgato-Wave-Link-Backup-and-Restore-configuration

[wet briar]

I have these

[gritty jackal]

I suggest backing up the effects chain on it's own though because you're reflashing the firmware

[wet briar]

should I just copy this file elsewhere

[gritty jackal]

Flashing the firmware won't move your backup files, they're fine where they are

[wet briar]

kk

what is the effects chain

[gritty jackal]

It's a "chain" of all the plugins / effects you have applied to an audio input/output

Since it runs your audio thorugh those effects in a chain of steps

[wet briar]

import?

[gritty jackal]

If you're making a backup, export

[wet briar]

created one for today

[gritty jackal]

That's a full app backup not the chain though

[wet briar]

uhh

Where is that then

[wet briar]

Done saved

now to reflashing

Fingers crossed it doesnt brick

name and firmware are still the same

Mind u I renamed it back to my mic

and then back to that name

[gritty jackal]

Yeah, rename it to something you recognize

We know you're on the right firmware now at least

[wet briar]

how do I know if it works now

like if I did the right thing

[gritty jackal]

Basically just test it, best way to be sure

[solemn wyvern]

Set your gain, low pass, clip guard…. And then reboot the computer.
If it keeps those settings, it’s right.

[gritty jackal]

This is the way

[wet briar]

Restarting

Whats clipguard btw

I dont use it

[solemn wyvern]

You probably should.
Google it for their video.

[wet briar]

oki it kept the settings wooooooooo

actually nvm I apparently use it

what is wave gain lock

[solemn wyvern]

Prevents apps from changing the gain on the mic preamp without permission.

[wet briar]

oooooooo

thats cool I will use that as well

Thank you both for your help really, it doesn't go unoticed, I appreciate it

[gritty jackal]

Glad you've got it sorted out!

[wet briar]

❤️

Also one more thing, hope I am not bothering you

So i have a YETI studio (formerly known as blue Sona) it's just a better version of the blue sona with couple of things updated. Essentially its supposed to sound extremely close to SM7B, with less Plosives. I personally LOVE how it sounds, So essentiallyI added (a dumb amount of bass but what can I say I like it) it's at 90HZ 9.0 db (i know that's an extreme, but when recording my self on obs (using microphone FX) It doesn't sound like it, but when i apply the same EQ profile on system sounds it sounds how I want it to sound

is that due to double profiles or

Thing is I dont wanna increase the bass more cuz it sounds bad choppy and there's popping noises

[gritty jackal]

If you're trying to get it to sound the same everywhere, try using Wave Link's MicrophoneFX output. It'll let other apps use just your mic and it's effects in other apps

No need to mess with other things like system sounds then

[solemn wyvern]

System sounds, as in, not your mic but a different channel?

Yeah if you apply your eq in wave link, you don’t ever need it added anywhere else….

[wet briar]

I use MicrophoneFX as an input cuz it's my mic, the eq noisegate and compressor are applied on it

yea system sounds is the channel in the wave link app

[solemn wyvern]

Why would you eq system sounds the same as your mic? It’s not your mic…

I don’t understand

[wet briar]

so harris heller made a vid explaining how to best eq ur mic

he said to record on obs

and watch the vid while applying said eq on system sounds

so u listen to ur self with them

and change how u like

[solemn wyvern]

Oh oh!!!

[wet briar]

these are my current settings

[solemn wyvern]

Yes he is telling you to record your raw mic, play it into system channel, eq it there

[wet briar]

ohhhhh

that eq is on my mic

this is my discord input

does this mean its using my eq ?right?

[solemn wyvern]

So what you want to do once you’re happy with it, is save that effects chain from your system channel,
Import it onto your mic channel. Then you can remove it from the system channel. Now it’s on your mic. Job done

[solemn wyvern]

Yes

[wet briar]

Okay so I am good then

so what it was, it was double profiling

reason i heard more bass is irecorded with that eq on mic fx, and applied that same eq on system sounds when I was listening to said clip

Got it

[solemn wyvern]

Right. The recording you play into system sounds should be raw with no effects.
Then you set up all your effects…
Then copy the effects settings back to the mic channel and remove them from the system sounds channel.

[tired mason]

Hello everyone, new to the discord so there's probably a thread already created somewhere about my issue... I have a Wave Link XLR, Stream Deck+ and a Shure mv7x microphone.

I randomly decided to check if my wave link needed an update. Don't remember what firmware it was currently on but 1.11.1 was available to download. I updated my Wave Link, now literally ALL my audio is messed up. Plus my microphone does not want to work.

Ended up downloading 1.10.1 firmware to see if the issue would be fixed but it didn't. Ended up redownloading 1.11.1 firmware because I've read different reddit threads about the audio and other stuff being fixed. Still nothing.

[tired mason]

Also, I've tried changing my sound mixer outputs on my pc and the only time I get audio is if I revert everything; my browser, game, discord, etc, back to default settings.

Also my microphone is not working still. On my wave link, I see the level of my microphone moving. It's just within games and discord, my microphone is not getting picked up

[solemn wyvern]

If you were using a version earlier than 1.9, the virtual devices all got refreshed so they have new unique identifiers so will need to be reassigned one time.
That’s probably all it is.

[tired mason]

I believe I was using an earlier version. I have reassigned all my different identifiers but I still get no audio. Only time I get audio is if I revert my pc output to speakers and put my browser back to default

With that screenshot, I have my output as Wave Link System, then changed my browser to Wave Link Browser and I'm not getting any audio. Once I put my output back to Speakers (audio will go to my headphones) and my browers back to default that's when I get audio back

And would the 1.11.1 firmware also effect my microphone from not working? There's not input from a mic detected on discord

[solemn wyvern]

Firstly, we are talking about wave link versions, not firmware.

Right now your default input is set to mic in, which is the raw mic. To use the mic feed from wave link select microphoneFX.

As for the other sound, I assume you’re using headphones connected directly to the wave xlr headphone port?

[tired mason]

My fault, versions.

I switched to MicrophoneFX and discord is still not detecting my microphone. Even switching the input to all the different options; Wave Link MicrophoneFX, Default, Realtek, etc.

Yes I'm using headphones but not connected to the xlr headphone port. It is connected directly to my pc. The way I was always doing it before updating to 1.11.1

[solemn wyvern]

The headphone port on your wave xlr is the device currently selected as your monitor mix.
Change this to whatever you are listening on or you won’t hear anything from wave link.

Specifically about discord, it has its own settings for input and output; for apps with their own settings, prefer using those over the windows routing settings since they will override.

[tired mason]

I just switched my monitor mix to Realtek. Hear audio just fine, but once I switched my browser output to Wave Link Browser, audio disappears

[solemn wyvern]

Do you see the meter moving on the browser channel?

[tired mason]

Yes the meter is moving on the browser channel, monitor mix and stream mix

[solemn wyvern]

But nothing on your Realtek audio jack….

[tired mason]

Correct nothing

I reverted the output back to default and my audio comes back

[solemn wyvern]

Ok, we maybe should uninstall and reinstall wave link.

I’m starting to think we might just be screwed up from some version flipping earlier.

[tired mason]

Okay, I will try that now. I'll be reinstalling the newest version yeah? 1.11.1?

Should I uninstall streakdeck or that doesn't be effected

[solemn wyvern]

Streamdeck shouldn’t matter for this

The theory here is, audio routed into wave link, mixed to the mix outputs, route those to your headphones.

If you hear things when routed directly to your headphones that is routing AROUND wave link, so it seems like it was set right but not working so, here we are at this step.

[tired mason]

Ahh I see. Okay I am reinstalling Wave Link now

@solemn wyvern Still the same issue. Output is Realtek. Output for browser is Wave Link Browser. No audio through headphones. Only works when I revert output back to default for browser

[solemn wyvern]

Can you show me your mic channel settings? Click the mic channel title.

[tired mason]

Would that be the same as the ones I screenshotted earlier?

[solemn wyvern]

Click the mic channel title in wave link

Then screenshot the wave link window. It’s so settings for the wave xlr that I was a peek at

[tired mason]

Hope thats correct lol

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah that’s right, but I don’t see the problem I was looking for.
Do other channels work? Just put on a YouTube video and flip the browser around to different channels.
Also let’s try a different app, besides edge. Get sound from other apps into wave link.

And all your led colors are red… that’s not very helpful since you can’t tell the difference between muted and live. Did you set that?

But that wouldn’t have anything to do with not hearing audio

[tired mason]

Lol tbh I think that was just default? I just never changed it

[solemn wyvern]

It’s definitely not default, so that’s weird.
Default will be white red and blue

[tired mason]

I changed the browser to the different channels and I get movement in the meter but no audio through my headphones. Only time I get audio is going back to default or realtek.

I opened up Spotify and same issue. Movement on the meter on different channels but only time there's audio is if it's back to default or realtek

It's crazy how the newer version of Wave Link just completely messed up my audio lol

[solemn wyvern]

Ok so, far as we can tell things are working right except the monitor mix doesn’t play through your selected device.

What happens if you select the wave xlr headphones and connect some headphones to it?

….i think there is something else going on here. It’s just the refreshing of the devices that triggered it, but I think windows may have done something stupid. 95% of wave link problems are some windows changing the properties of an audio device without permission.

I’m bundling up to walk the dogs in the cold but I’ll be back later.

Another thing to check: click the greet eat by the stream mix fader to audition that mix… if the issue is with the monitor mix device, the stream mix will will work and that tells us something.