New Elder System

[covert ocean]

oh

yeah blitz is thirstyy

[gusty delta]

I had 5% eldering which isnt too bad considering i got lucky on the geodes but still,

[last minnow]

im doing my rotations the more i start to memorize where they are, so far i have around 10 or so in my rotation path

[gusty delta]

Save yourselves lmao

[cosmic river]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-in-black-shirt-thirsty-overflow-hexen-so-gif-11884310

[quaint ice]

Bruh I just typed that whole thing out and it said dont send the same message more than once and deleted that -.-

[covert ocean]

the bot can be very rude sometimes

[quaint ice]

2 asd activated green during the day clear skies

4 asd activated green during the day clear skies

[covert ocean]

do you know their elder percentages?

[quaint ice]

The 2 were over 50

[covert ocean]

oh 👀 that's interesting

[quaint ice]

the 4 were a mix from 10 - 60

[covert ocean]

and not helpful for my theory that green is good for low percentages 😂

[quaint ice]

Yeah ;-;

[covert ocean]

that's so weird... on media branch, i had a 16% blitz that couldn't make green resonate

Then immediately after my IR could, and he was like 2.5%

[last minnow]

but that doesnt debunk the day/night crystal colors actually

[quaint ice]

We have about 4 fs around a red crystal during the day clear skies and only 2 got a tick (36% & 60%) I was 50% and did not get the tick

[covert ocean]

But blitz could resonate green earlier..

so what changed, if not elder %?

or is it different per dragon?

[last minnow]

what about the time of day?

[covert ocean]

that's true, I was thinking about the elder % influence thing

[quaint ice]

There was a green crystal in ravine and an fs 1 called at it waited and it turned red

[covert ocean]

did it glow after the 1 call?

[quaint ice]

during the day clear skies

Yes

[covert ocean]

if you stop 1 calling while it's glowing it'll change color

[quaint ice]

Ohhh ok that makes sense

[covert ocean]

basically a 'failure', it won't deactivate but odds are of course that the new color won't work for you

[quaint ice]

we had a few blitz and an ss around a dark blue crystal during the day clear skies and only the ss got the tick (44%)

Havent been able to get any of the other colors to work other than green, red, and dark blue

[covert ocean]

I got a green one here that won't resonate for my SS, but it's dawn

gonna wait and see if I can make it work when it goes to morning

[oak goblet]

do you need a passive growth tick to make use of the crystals i wonder?

[covert ocean]

no, I heard people who got ticks at 0%

[oak goblet]

ok, good to know

[covert ocean]

yep no need to wait, can get going right when you hit adult!

[oak goblet]

very nice. Ive found a couple glowing ones, but none that reacted to me

[quaint ice]

Yeah you dont have to have a tick before activating a crystal

[chilly iris]

This purple gave a tick to my Blitz, but not to my Friend's SS

It's in the cave at Arch, night time, and clear skies (if that helps any)
Friendo's SS is at 3.7% while my Blitz was 0%

[quaint ice]

Strange

[covert ocean]

that's so weird

nighttime/clear skies checks out with the purples I found. those were all at night and with auroras when they worked

But why not the ss..? and blitz at only 0%

mindboggling

[quaint ice]

I like trying to solve this but Im worried its going to be boring once its figured out :(

[covert ocean]

i feel exactly the same

I love trying to figure it out

[quaint ice]

Like we are getting the crystals to activate but not being able to repeat it

[oak goblet]

what if there is no actual pattern, and its completely random?

[covert ocean]

but I hope it won't just be dull after that. 'oh it's that color. yeah that won't work. next one'

[quaint ice]

Its a bit frustrating I wont lie

[covert ocean]

that'd be horrible game design

like actually horrible 😂

[quaint ice]

Im uninstalling if thats the case >:(

[oak goblet]

i mean it would, yeah hehe

idk, was just a thought hehe. Im sure there is SOME kind of system for this

[last minnow]

very, cus i got purple on my ss at night😭

[quaint ice]

This makes no sense :')

[chilly iris]

Sorry the picture is dark and I forgot to take a shot of it glowing, but this is the Crystal at BR (roof of the cave)

This purple gave a tick, again, to my Blitz, but not to my SS friend

Night time, Rainy weather

[quaint ice]

Interesting

[worldly blade]

ive noticed nobody talking about bios yet, can bios elder?

[chilly iris]

Nupe they can't

[quaint ice]

I dont think so

[worldly blade]

interesting

[mortal ocean]

Bios don't have elder stage

[worldly blade]

do you have to be a certain class to elder?

[quaint ice]

Anything can elder other than bio

[mortal ocean]

don't think so. it's just bios don't have elder

[covert ocean]

I think it's class 3 and up?

[chilly iris]

An other purple, but it reacted to no one

Daytime, clear skies

[naive otter]

class 3 and up can elder
class 2 and lower cannot

[naive otter]

hey look! its my face! 🤣

[chilly iris]

Hi lmao

This Dark blue at BR, once again responded to my IR

[white path]

have we cracked the code yet

[quaint ice]

2 fs activated red at night E line and A line 6% and 16%

[chilly iris]

This purple, no reaction (daytime)

[brittle vortex]

day time dont activ for me

this is for?

[bright onyx]

How to use crystals?

[gusty delta]

aim at them and roar

[tough talon]

What does the weather need to be like for IR? I am trying on a blue crystal and aiming and roaring and nothing

[chilly iris]

So far all three times were clear weather for me

[bright onyx]

does the core have to glow there?

[chilly iris]

To add... I can't recall for sure whether the first time was at night or day
But the two others were day time (for dark blue crystal and IR)

[gusty delta]

it will start to glow as you call

just keep spamming roar

[quaint ice]

Just activated a dark blue crystal with an fs at night while raining

[spark cloak]

Ok guys, when you find the hexagonal crystal, how do you activate it?

And which dragons need what crystal?

[quaint ice]

A blitz activated a green one on the ceiling of a cave and didnt get the tick?

[fringe spear]

How can i activate a Crystal?

[spark cloak]

I keep roaring, all 1 to 4 calls and nothing works

The crystal isnt shining

[bright onyx]

I yelled at the crystal for 5-10 minutes, nothing happened.

[gusty delta]

Did it have a color on it?

[bright onyx]

Yes, blue

[turbid comet]

so these when they are purple will work for ir?

[tardy perch]

Greetings fellow dragons! What have we discovered so far?

[urban nova]

Magic

[chilly iris]

This one for IR in Daytime has worked all the time so far
It's a dark/deep blue 💙

[turbid comet]

okay! Ive tried two different ones and havent gotten anything

[cosmic river]

this did not respond to me on a different server on any dragons whatsoever
same as magenta, nothing after screaming at it with all species

[turbid comet]

^^ same

[cosmic river]

twas daytime*

[copper elm]

For those that got the crystal to "pop" did you do it solo or in a group/others around?

I've been on for 3 hours and have never seen a crystal glow after yelling at it for a couple minutes

[midnight blade]

have you tried different dragons?

[blissful beacon]

Changing to a different dragon is a risk right now lol might not get back in 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

[copper elm]

Don't have any others full grown yet

[naive otter]

I believe i can confirm this one requires nighttime... i found one at night. it activated MAYBE?

[quaint ice]

We've been doing it in groups of 4 ish and have gotten it to work sometimes where some of us will get the tick but not all. And other times nothing happens no matter how many of us are there or what dragons we're on

[dreamy dune]

theres one in the arch cave

[cloud hare]

two under the pillars of arch as well on each ledge

For those who got it to work, Are you all on officials? Maybe private servers arent working?

[surreal tundra]

So what do you need to do to get the tick ?

[tropic grove]

rmb aim at the crystal and 1 call at it

[tropic grove]

seems like very RNG luck based so far

[tardy perch]

There's got to be a pattern somewhere to what color does what.

[tropic grove]

Somebody said each color means something we just have to figure it out

[tardy perch]

Indeed

I just watched a Blitz activate a green geode till it exploded. But they claim they didn't get a tick. I'm not adult yet so can't test. Working on it

[tropic grove]

My friend also said they screamed at a white with fs and ss and it exploded

[tardy perch]

The explosion is what gives a tick. But how much or to which dragon we'll have to find out

[tropic grove]

perhaps 1 stone color can do multiple dragons at a time?

i mean multiple species

[tardy perch]

It should. That's what it did in testing. Multiple dragons around the geode could get a tick. But it still had limits to which dragon got it.

If a dragon could activate it though, that dragon should get a tick. I'm wondering if people are thinking they didn't get it when they actually did and it just takes a moment to get the actual growth bar tick

[high cloud]

Id have a wierd theory but maybe the colors are cordinated with the compass and directions u look at it?

[tardy perch]

Good gosh I hope not lol.

That would be so arbitrary of a method. I hope it's just either based on your dragons species, element type, or dragon type...

[high cloud]

just a wierd thoughti got rn while trying to get at leat one to work for onec xD

[tropic grove]

im camping on BR rock

does it have to glow by itself?

or do i just scream and hope for the best?

[high cloud]

we just had a purple crystal react to a blitz

[last minnow]

blitz and blitz only for that one

so id like to edit my statement on purple working for ss, it was dark blue not purple

just got my 2nd crystal which was the same color as my first one

and its looking like 2 different species cant get the AOE tick from x crystal that was activated by a different species

[last minnow]

theory CONFIRMED, it only gives the AOE effect to any of the same species that activated it

[cyan halo]

so a bs activates it and all bs around it also will get a tick?

[last minnow]

yea, if a bs activates it then the bs that help will get it

no other species will work if it activated for just bs

[cyan halo]

help? like also calling at it

[last minnow]

thats 2 times now where if i activated a crystal with an ss, only the ss around helping got it

yea

[cyan halo]

oh interesting

[woven isle]

is it same colors for all dragons or is it specific colors for specific dragons?

[last minnow]

specific colors for specific dragons

[woven isle]

kk, i've seen that green is for blitz, but does anyone know what colors are for the other dragons?

[last minnow]

dark blue works for ss

[wide canopy]

cough

colors DONT matter for the geodes

[tropic grove]

purple?

[wide canopy]

Purple worked for blitz
blue worked for fs/ss
green worked for blitz/fs/ss/
red worked for all of the above
yellow none

And orange? I honestly dunno and im not gonna personally research it but safe to assume the colors its a Pattern.

Or tick %

[last minnow]

this was debunked, the % is the 12 ticks

[wide canopy]

What

[last minnow]

its the same % you get from the passive ones

for every dragon

[wide canopy]

im still confused wt ur sayin

[last minnow]

the tick % is the same as the passive ones😭

[tropic grove]

anyone know of a few locations?

[last minnow]

pinged you in the locations thread

[tropic grove]

thank you

you’re LimeLion right?

[last minnow]

yea

[tardy perch]

There isn't an orange geode color. The Colors are Red, Blue, Yellow, Cyan, Green, Magenta, and White.

The tick you get from geodes so far is the same amount of % you get from a passive tick.

[high cloud]

about this theory can it be that Ir are bugged with crystals? even standing close to ones going of i never got a tick from em

[ionic trench]

isn't purple supposed to work on blitz?

[last minnow]

if it was an IR that activated it, you should have gotten one if you were standing right infront of it

[last minnow]

yea

[high cloud]

hmh well im into the whole crystal hunt about 12h now and didnt found a single one responding to IR

ig im just hella unlucky?

[tardy perch]

We'll figure out what's working properly and what isn't in the coming days. I'm sure Jao is fixing the Snapper bug first before he looks into stuff like this

[high cloud]

true gohst shouldt be deadly xD

[ionic trench]

I had a bad angle but figured it out
the crystal went off but i did not get a tick :(

I don't understand why it let me activate it and did the boom but it did not actually give me the tick

[frozen oxide]

purple just went off for SS

[last minnow]

that dark blue one?

cus purple is blitz

[frozen oxide]

it was purple

a few people saw it

[last minnow]

this?

[heavy ridge]

Each dragon can activate multiple colors.

It's not the same system as mushrooms, where one color=one dragon

[last minnow]

ive seen that bright purple only work for blitz

[ionic trench]

yeah but why does being able to activate a crystal =/= getting a tick from that crystal

[last minnow]

but the dark purple for ss and not blitz

[frozen oxide]

yee i just asked a few others and they all said purple too incase im blind xD

we had like 7 blitz trying and then the SS came and activated it

[last minnow]

it was this one, which is misleading

that one has worked on my ss 3 times

i cant get bright purple to work on ss cus it works on blitz

[frozen oxide]

🤷‍♀️

[heavy ridge]

Some won't work for a dragon, and then will work for the same dragon 15 minutes later.

Something changed in those minutes. Some folks are saying time of day, I'm thinking it might be health/hunger/thirst/stam related

really don't think it's linked to species. Or at least, species isn't all that major of a factor.

[tardy perch]

Also there isn't a Purple geode. That's Blue you are seeing there

there is a Magenta one though

[high cloud]

magenta blue and yellow i seen so far <-<

[tardy perch]

I saw a green while I was growing.

[hot ferry]

Does anyone know if the geodes aren't working in non-officials?

[tardy perch]

Pretty sure they are, but there are reports of some not giving the tick. So we aren't sure what's going on just yet exactly.

[wide canopy]

Purple has ignored blitz, multiple times.

[hot ferry]

Ok, thank you Ulta ^^

[knotty pulsar]

Can you only get 1 tick per dragon from the geodes every x hours or so? Because I can't activate some of the geodes that I should be able to activate when they already got a tick recently

I also activated a red geode 2 times and let it deactivate and after the second time, it changed to green.

[languid trout]

Is there a list of the locations yet?

[heavy ridge]

Yup, one mo

[heavy ridge]

https://discord.com/channels/576933363672285186/1286563504114892810

[languid trout]

Ty

[woven isle]

do u need to do something special to activate the crystals? i have found a ton of em, but none of em have been active

[heavy ridge]

💕 we don't know yet, so far we've just been finding them glowing and humming at random.

[woven isle]

hmmm cause i found a blue one humming earlier, but i'm blitz soo that didn't help xD

[heavy ridge]

Dragons can use multiple colors, and sometimes a color will work for one dragon, and then not work later.

I don't think it's connected to which species you are

[white path]

have we cracked the code yet or

[woven isle]

oh well, if i ever see a blue one i'll try and get it, but if it's like in the roof of a cave or something, will it still work or do i need to hover?

[midnight blade]

ive only seen dark blue so far?

and ever single crystal ive screamedd at they dont work >:((

[cosmic slate]

Were they active? glowing and rumbling?

[midnight blade]

nope. nothing has worked

[white path]

okay so, news

the same crystal that sploded on me at arch won't respond to me

its blue, again

[midnight blade]

i havent seen any other color crystal

[white path]

im on flaming falls rn if anyone wants a bio spotter (searching for glowy crystals)

[midnight blade]

ive gone to every crystal and 1 called, and it haasnt worked.

do they have to be glowing?

[white path]

has to be glowing, and they seem to have certain requirements

[midnight blade]

makes sensed then

[white path]

some kind of elder %, time of day, type of dragon

etc

[heavy ridge]

They need to already be glowing, you need to aim (like you're breeding), and call several times.

[cosmic slate]

I also have seen (not activated, didnt try) a glowing one. It sounded like it was rumbling

[white path]

or like you're shooting

yeah

its supposed to

[midnight blade]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh okay makes way more sense

[woven isle]

figured out any requirements?

[heavy ridge]

Oh no, that'll take dayyyyyys XD

Appreciate your faith in us.

Mela unlock took 3 months to figure out

[cosmic slate]

Weeks or months, I dont care, its science and I will help how I can when I can

[woven isle]

oh okay xD

[white path]

i feel like we should make a map with all the crystals + screenshots of their locations

like i didn't know where in the waterfall it was until now

[short obsidian]

Have we figured out what crystals the ss take yet? Or are we unsure on that one still?

[white path]

i mean a blue one worked for me

but it didn't work twice

[short obsidian]

Gotcha. Must be somewhat color matched to elder shrooms in a way.

Ohhhh

Welp lol

This is gonna be awhile before we figure it out but that's okay. Put all our heads together and we'll get it

[lost totem]

Maybe an order thing? Start with blue, then purple, then red, etc?

[short obsidian]

Possibly? I have no clue. I haven't even been able to find one yet. Couldn't get on sanctuary all day till recently lol

[lost totem]

I've got the AU server practically to myself at the moment, been to about 10 of the crystals so far. None are glowing

[merry yarrow]

tried magenta and green - no reaction to my blitz

[woven isle]

any specific loc u found those crystals at?

[short obsidian]

I can help with figuring it out tomorrow for sure. Had to get off for the night.

[merry yarrow]

one at the big tree past the waterfall (magenta) and the green was on a rock formation right of BS when looking towards island

[lost totem]

See the Elder Crystal Location thread

[woven isle]

ik, i've checked most of the locations but i haven't found a single active one

[lost totem]

Me neither

[merry yarrow]

are they inactive in pve - rp-pve?

[woven isle]

noted, i'll check them right away

no, someone on this pve server i'm on found a green one earlier which worked on their blitz

[merry yarrow]

this new system seems really inconsistent

[woven isle]

agreed

[merry yarrow]

im not a massive elder grinder anyway so i dont really care - but it just seems a lil off, more than likely its just that we dont understand it yet XD

[latent meadow]

Surely it's bugged... Tell me it's bugged, because RNG should have no place in something that takes this long with even consistent drops...

[merry yarrow]

i sorta feel like its rng.. XD

[woven isle]

probs xD

[gusty delta]

I had a green one with a glowing white centre give me 3% on blitz

[woven isle]

where exactly did u find that one? cause i've found like at least 20 but none have been active

[gusty delta]

arch

[woven isle]

hmmm have checked that location several times with no luck

[gusty delta]

its the one to the top left of the crystal cave entrance

[woven isle]

this one ye?

[lost totem]

Ye

[woven isle]

well i've checked that one several times, it has never ever glowed

[wide canopy]

Same

[heavy ridge]

P sure Jao was saying for a while that the new system, multiple dragons could get the tick from the same event.

It "explodes" and any dragon in range ticks up.

[white path]

what color?

[lost totem]

That's the only colour all of mine have been

[maiden island]

i can confirm, more than once me and my friends have gotten ticks while being different dragons as long as the correct one is activating the crystal

[white path]

okay, weird. it responded to a bio

even though bios can't elder

[maiden island]

that is weird cause it doesn't look liek it even has a color > _>

[white path]

it was humming though

n started glowing

it exploding didn't do anything

[maiden island]

well if you did it with a bio that'd make sense

[lost totem]

Wait what if you have to activate them with a Bio? And then other dragons just need to be nearby?

Would make bio's important to have for clans, other than just looking pretty

[worldly sail]

NAH CUZ IN THAT CASE Bips being exclusive to ks would mean technically eventually there could be no bios

oops caps

[maiden island]

they mentioned adding npc's that'll give bio eggs after a quest

[worldly sail]

also fairly sure the point is you are supposed to be able to do it alone

[maiden island]

jazz hands can get it alone

[naive otter]

this is an inactive crystal
you'll see White, Yellow, Blue, Cyan, Magenta, Red, or Green

[white path]

it was humming

and it responded

[naive otter]

could have been white? its hard to tell

[white path]

yeah

but it was making noise and responded, but to a bio weirdly.

[latent meadow]

Please leave the ping on when replying to me otherwise I'll never see it until it's irrelevant, I put it in my name so I don't miss conversations I'm in. Q-Q
Yeah, I'm fairly certain clans are going to abuse the growth AoE system on PvP servers... Sad times. :[ Great for PvE where everyone is singing kumbaya and skin crafting, but I can see where it will get ugly elsewhere.

Have we verified if the gems colour match to specific dragons? Or is it a case of "there is one crystal on the map that is yours" every time you burst one? The more I hear about it, the more it sounds like that's the case.

[ionic trench]

Has anyone found any rhyme or reason to this system?
I've found 1 magenta that reacted (but didnt give me a tick)
I've found at least one of every color, excluding white, but including magenta, that did not react

all of this done with the same dragon (male blitz)

The only crystal that reacted as magenta did not react later as blue

[latent meadow]

The more I read up on experiences, the more I'm inclined to believe that the colour doesn't necessarily matter. Someone had a green and a yellow on the same dragon, and another had two blues and a magenta on their dragon.

[ionic trench]

in all honesty , at the moment, it seems like a worse version of mushrooms :/
i adore this game, but i just.. eurhg.

I'm hoping that if we can figure out what exactly the crystals need to be triggered, then it'll be less painful

[latent meadow]

I'll try tonight when I get home, see if I can verify if colour even matters or if it's just to look pretty... We might be overthonking some things. lol

...Know what? I'm leaving that typo. lol

[ionic trench]

cyan on the back of snowy, male blitz, heavy rain at night. No activation

i wonder if we had a spreadsheet with categories like crystal color / species / weather / time / etc
could we find a pattern through raw data

[latent meadow]

Top tier reporting, I'll do the same.

[wide canopy]

I did a massive rave on dk.
Ss
Blitz
Fs
Ir
(No asd)
We did every color. Yet NONE responded DESPITE. BEING. ACTIVE.

[ionic trench]

if there is a pattern, it should be possible to find it with enough data points

[latent meadow]

Having a spreadsheet would be the most clear way to see if there's a pattern, but I'm not seeing one from the getgo, so it might be wasted effort.

[gaunt stream]

For those who haven't seen yet:

#1286563504114892810 message

[wide canopy]

Im going schizophrenic ladies

The colors dont matter 😭

[latent meadow]

There's the verification, then.

[ionic trench]

i feel like they oughta mean something but probably something we're not paying attention to

[wide canopy]

Red? NUHUH
BLUE? Nah.
G R E E N? Nope!!! STINKY

All

Cyan

Purple

Name it!! Scouted all possible geodes of the 28 i mapped circled map for em until last color!

[ionic trench]

but, since the crystals can stop humming if not interacted with, it can't be daytime/weather, since there's no point in making a "nighttime only" crystal spawn in the day and then stop working by nightfall

[wide canopy]

None worked at night nor day. Nor weather

Did it during storm, daylight, fog. 😐

[latent meadow]

From all the reports, it sounds like there is one crystal in a set that's yours, and it apparently has to be a clear night when the moon is high, and once you find it, gather everyone around while you explode it so you can get the tick.

[gaunt stream]

There's multiple potential reasons they work:

• Specific DoD Species (Shadow Scale, Acid Spitter, Flame Stalker, etc)
• Specific Dragon Species (Dragon, Drake, Amphithere, Wyvern, etc)
• Specific Elements
• Time of Day
• Elder%

[wide canopy]

Whatever the system is its too much for my mind to understand.

[wide canopy]

Elder % seems to go into play

Note. NOTE RIGHT

[ionic trench]

that's it im making a spreadsheet

[wide canopy]

My ss. 10%=accepted BLUE and RED to 15
My asd? 25%=accepted green Only

My fs at 10? Nope. Called ME crazy!!

[latent meadow]

Would you like us to ping you in this channel with results when we're hunting?

[wide canopy]

Sharing is caring

[ionic trench]

I was thinking i could use google sheets from a questionaire thing and everyone just adds in their own

[gaunt stream]

Definitely sounds like Elder % and maybe either dragon species orrrr element type

[wide canopy]

eLement type?

[gaunt stream]

Fire, Acid, Frost, Plasma, Lightning

Etc

[wide canopy]

So youre saying.

I have to do another rave with species again

And flame, shoot, spit the crystals

-# deep inhale

[gaunt stream]

No, 1 call them when they're active goofball

[wide canopy]

buT i dId thAt

[latent meadow]

That wouldn't explain why some dragons have multiple different crystal colours. If anything, I would think the crystal colours would change down the spectrum in colour as their voices get deeper (age).

[gaunt stream]

[ionic trench]

give me like half an hour and i'll post the form

[wide canopy]

I feel like jao wanted it to be pretty princess crystals

But again

YELLOW hates everyone

[gaunt stream]

We can test elder percentages. Since any dragon seems to be involved with green

Maybe Yellow is the last one before full Elder?

[wide canopy]

Yk what

[latent meadow]

That's what I'm thinking. Colours probably mean nothing and they're just pretty.

[wide canopy]

Theory

Theory

Who has the color list

Drop it for me rq

[latent meadow]

Nyoom. lol

[gaunt stream]

[ionic trench]

okay what are all the variables
I have:
Dragon elder %
species
element
gender
time of day
weather
crystal color

the more the merrier

what if there's somehting to do with point allocation? the mutation points? hmmmm

[gaunt stream]

That would be cruel

[wide canopy]

cough

Blue:0-15
-red same%
Green:15-25
Cyan: 25-35
White/yellow 50+

Stupid theory

[latent meadow]

Might be too many variables, but we can err on the side of caution.

[gaunt stream]

Problem is a fresh adult Blitz can activate a green Crystal

I did it

[wide canopy]

Then im out

[gaunt stream]

[wide canopy]

Peas 🫛

[latent meadow]

A sound theory if the colours mean something, could have something to do with the type of crystal reacting to voice octave with age.

[gaunt stream]

Our dragon's 1 calls change pitch each time

[latent meadow]

Audibly, but maybe not enough to trigger the crystal after a certain percentage.

[gaunt stream]

So, maybe? I don't know though because some crystals can be activated by dragons that don't even get a tick from it

Shrimp activated one earlier and got no Elder tick

[latent meadow]

Entirely possible that each dragon breed has a different "call pattern sequence" when it comes to the colour, if it matters at all... If I see one dragon go like blue-green-blue though, that idea is flushed.

[gaunt stream]

I know Acid, Blitz, and SS seem to activate the green crystals

[latent meadow]

Oh yeah, I remember Ragnar did the same on his once and we were all confused...

[gaunt stream]

I also wonder if it has something to do with the dragon class.

What class is Blitz? And Acid Spitter?

[latent meadow]

Dragon/wyvern/etc?

[gaunt stream]

No, like Danger

I know SS is a 5

[latent meadow]

Oooohhh, gotcha.

Maybe.

[stark leaf]

ASD is 3

[gaunt stream]

What about Blitz?

2? 3?

[stark leaf]

uhhhh

4

[gaunt stream]

So, low class dragons

FS is 6, right?

[ionic trench]

anyone know every time of day the ingame thing can say?

[stark leaf]

FS is Class 5

[gaunt stream]

It goes by the 24 hour clock

[ionic trench]

No i mean like
is it sunrise / dawn / morning / day / whathaveyou

[gaunt stream]

So, 0000 through 2359

Ooooh

[latent meadow]

I've got a few more hours here at work, then I'll hop on my FS and start yelling at rocks on Sanctuary to see what I can learn from them.

[gaunt stream]

Thank you

So, we know that Blitz, SS, and Acid can apparently activate Green crystals

And SS and FS can activate Blue

[stark leaf]

We've had all dragons around this red one here and nothin...

[gaunt stream]

But one thing these dragons do is when they elder they jump to a higher dragon class

[stark leaf]

We tried all at once, tried all seperate, etc etc

[gaunt stream]

Maybe it's for a class or species/element not in-game yet?

[naive otter]

so far all the crystal locations found have not been Acid spitter friendly for most of them at least

[gaunt stream]

Orrr it is just Eldering% and I'm hopping around for nothing

[stark leaf]

Another thing is we have actively changed the colors

Had Person A yell at a blue crystal, not call again, then Person B yelled at the same one and it turned green

Then red and now we can't activate it again

[gaunt stream]

Cool!

Even though it wasn't what was wanted

Also if you yell once at a Crystal and then stop it fades in color

[ionic trench]

What classes are the dragons again?
I think bio 2, asd 3, ss 4, fs/ir 5
what's blitz

[gaunt stream]

4

[ionic trench]

thankee

[gaunt stream]

[ionic trench]

Ok i've got
Species
Class
% elder progress
Crystal color
Dragon Element
Body plan (wyvern/drake/etc)
Gender
Time of Day
Weather
Mutation Points

what else

[gaunt stream]

Hmmmmmm

[latent meadow]

Wait, hold on... The crystals can spontaneously change colours after bursting?

[stark leaf]

it wasn't after it burst

[latent meadow]

WHAT?!

[stark leaf]

it just changed color after being yelled at

[latent meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-kneeling-soldier-kneeling-after-battle-soldier-defeat-gif-7355864552800915857

[ionic trench]

Ok I've got the form set up
with a comments section for anything else noteworthy
The more data the better
Edit: Pruned to 4 questions

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd-rcVjhxuYhsrz3bLQlP2P2-ZdNJECmWDZcYn_0GNJyBlsQA/viewform?usp=sf_link

[latent meadow]

If that's the case, then colour does matter, otherwise the same asset in the same location wouldn't have changed...

[latent meadow]

This is beautiful, thank you, you absolute royal...

[dense current]

my blitz is almost adult in islecrest will add to sheet when/if i get one to explode xD

[ionic trench]

I'll check the results every few hours, once they start coming in, and i'll update if any sort of pattern emerges

[compact lava]

can you make the time of day not obligatory. Say it happened hours ago and I can only remember it was daytime but not the exact name of the time

ideally the detailed time, but you may loose potential answer from people less confident about the exact time

[ionic trench]

Right lemme edit the time and weather to maek them not mandatory

ok try refreshing

[compact lava]

thanks!

[ionic trench]

I edited it a little because my adhd butt forgot the most important part. Form now includes whether or not the crystal activated

Responses where the crystal ignored you are also important to help figure out what the pattern isn't

[clear pebble]

maybe staring at the crystal helps

[gaunt stream]

Politely waiting~

[lime igloo]

guys is this cyan or blue?

not works for my 92.5% ss tho

[naive otter]

Cyan

it worked for my SS. i got it to activate

[lime igloo]

strange

not works for my fellow ss too

[naive otter]

||you are aiming and 1 calling|| yes?

[lime igloo]

yes

[naive otter]

hm i did infact get it to work for SS and not blitz so im not sure

[ionic trench]

it's not very consistent yet
i've had three greens reject me and one work, on the same dragon

[lime igloo]

yea i find green in other place and it only works for bs

[naive otter]

i also had magenta work for BS

[gaunt stream]

Tea did say they were at this percentage Maybe it is based off Elder%?

[lime igloo]

I'm thinking the same thing

[naive otter]

so far i have successfully either activated or seen activation of said colors
Red - had it once happen with an IR
Magenta - once with blitz
Blue - twice with SS
Cyan - once with SS
Green - at least 4 times with Blitz

my colors i have experienced. ask my anything about my experience so far

[gaunt stream]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hitting-head-on-desk-cat-insane-cat-gif-24842238

[lime igloo]

btw we try bs/fs on it too

[naive otter]

there's so many factors that happens. im 100% losing track of it all. 🙃 😵‍💫

[lime igloo]

not working at all

[gaunt stream]

I'm just guessing based off what others are saying, since I can't get online myself (at work)

[lucid heath]

Are there fixed colors for certain dragons?

[naive otter]

we dont know for sure. we're still theorizing

[lucid heath]

Allright

[tranquil cobalt]

Red, Yellow, Green, Cyan, Blue, Magenta, White

[naive otter]

can confirm yellow does work for ASD it seems! Yellow trigger with ASD at dusk with clear skies

[gaunt stream]

wishes we could pin this

[naive otter]

pin what? 👀

[gaunt stream]

This

[naive otter]

ah

[gaunt stream]

In case time and weather are a part of it

[naive otter]

just incase, some members here gave me the idea

i feel like it may be based off dragon and time of day but im still testing

[gaunt stream]

It's hard to tell for sure

[latent meadow]

Okay, home now, gonna focus FS female to see what happens.

[mild smelt]

i made green with my fs earlier

[naive otter]

so @gaunt stream btw! Cyan geode at night. SS failed.

so will need some testing

[gaunt stream]

[naive otter]

it was raining during, so keep in mind of the possibility of weather affecting anything

[latent meadow]

Hhhhhhh, I can't get into Sanctuary where all my adults are...

[ionic trench]

my current guess is that each species can activate 2 crystals, but only sometimes
blitz green/magenta
ss blue/cyan
etc

but i have 17 datapoints right now and 11 of them are me so i can't be sure of anything yet

[latent meadow]

That "only sometimes" bit gets under my scales...

[naive otter]

i have had blue activate at night with SS for me and Cyan at daytime.

[ionic trench]

oooh i got a positive!

[latent meadow]

Oh?

[naive otter]

can confirm that i attempted a cyan at night and it did not trigger

i cant rule out the possbility of weather affecting anything

[ionic trench]

male blitz / magenta crystal / night / partly cloudy

[gaunt stream]

[naive otter]

i was a fem blitz at night with magenta crystal. so i dont think gender is apart of the riddle here

[latent meadow]

Went to Jhrakon, no adults... Is this blue?

[naive otter]

i dont see it glowing

[ionic trench]

i'm just collecting as many bits of info about each dragon as possible
just in case

[ionic trench]

no that one is inactive

[tranquil cobalt]

Looks blue

[ionic trench]

is it rumbling/crackling sound?

[latent meadow]

No, it's not. I just wanted to check and see which colour it was because it's hard to tell the difference withhow subtle some of these are.

[naive otter]

fair

[tranquil cobalt]

There are some suggestions to add a Rune to a coloured crystal do that we can tell what colour they are when in weird lighting places

After all there are only 7 colours

[ionic trench]

we had a flame stalker activate a green at sunrise
and i got a green at noon

i saw a ss activate a blue at night and fail a blue at daytiem

time of day might actually be the key

maybe a color reacts to one species at night and a different at day?

[naive otter]

this is my guess

[latent meadow]

AHA! Made it to Sanctuary. FS testing begin.

Huh... Same crystal in the same place is the same colour on a different server.

[ionic trench]

is it the same active color, or just purple?

right so i just got another one

magenta - blitz - night

i think that's it

time to prune the form

[latent meadow]

It's still inactive, same colour.

[ionic trench]

Alrighty folks it's past 1 am for me and 12 hours of crystal-hunting has been enough.

I cut the form down to 4 questions (Species, Crystal color, Time of day, and activated yes/no) so it's much quicker to answer now!
#1209681807746801724 message

I'll check back tomorrow and say here how many responses i got and what the trends are. Happy eldering, everyone!

[azure pulsar]

how do I view the already send informations?

[ionic trench]

You can't, they're in a spreadsheet
I will be sharing updates as information comes in

[azure pulsar]

okay

[gaunt stream]

I wonder if the yellow crystal can be activated by fire breathing dragons at midday?

Just a thought

[latent meadow]

Hmmmmm...

[gaunt stream]

Either that or sunrise and the white one is midday

Curse having to work three nights in a row....

[eager heath]

this is what we have gotten with my group of 5 SS, 3 Blitz, 3 IR
first green gave tick to 3 SS and 1 Blitz
blue gave tick to an IR and SS
second green gave tick to 2 SS, Blitz and IR
yellow didnt do anything, so did third, fourth and fifth green and cyan

the whole group always spammed 1 call at the same time xd

[gaunt stream]

I didn't find them, other people did. I've only seen green, blue, and magenta with my own eyes

I think that's the point

Jao made a complex system on purpose to keep us entertained

[latent meadow]

I don't think it's complex as much as it is kinda... Redundant.

[covert ocean]

Just need to keep checking. It’s random (or seems random)

[gaunt stream]

Yes

Hold on a moment

https://discord.com/channels/576933363672285186/1286563504114892810

Yep!

We're up to 46 confirmed Crystal locations

Yep!

That means more opportunities to elder!

[azure pulsar]

activate:

[azure pulsar]

activate:

[azure pulsar]

activate:

[azure pulsar]

activate:

[naive otter]

<@&577129575423672322> (nvm)

[azure pulsar]

?

[naive otter]

i thought you were spaming

[azure pulsar]

I am just collecting them

[naive otter]

sorry

[gaunt stream]

You're pinging multiple people for no reason

[azure pulsar]

oh, sorry, I forgot to get the @ away

[naive otter]

that was mostly the issue was the @ which confused me personally! so forgive me

[azure pulsar]

sorry, all good xD

[latent meadow]

I think I'm the only one who likes pings. lol

[compact berry]

[naive otter]

im okay with pings it just heavily depends on what it is!

[naive otter]

this is for me btw i'll do it myself here 🗞️ (on myself) 🤣

[compact berry]

[gaunt stream]

I'm ok with pings, just not when I was literally just talking

Also, I wonder if red crystals can be activated at sunset or at dawn...

[naive otter]

-# I'm also very Tired. it being 2:32am and i been doing elder stuff ALL day

[gaunt stream]

If I wasn't working 3 twelves in a row you bet your scales I'd be online hunting for the way

My only contribution to this is the list of coordinates provided by myself and others

[naive otter]

here's been my day lately "find geode, test dragon, Write down notes, repeat. occasionally the geode would refuse to work" 😭 its a pain but i also love it

[gaunt stream]

Same, my inner rock collecter is happy~

[azure pulsar]

NOO, why did my message got deleted??

[tropic grove]

gonna run around a bit today and see about them. I want ASD ticks but RNG is not kind

[azure pulsar]

I got all infos, spend many min. just now and then it got deleted, cause "you already send that", which I did not

[cyan halo]

i feel like the geodes are mostly inactive at night

[naive otter]

next time copy because mee6 likes to delete messages if they repeat words a lot 😭

[cyan halo]

flew around for a while at night at all spots and they all were inactive

[tropic grove]

some of them are only active in thunderstorms also

[azure pulsar]

I got all infos together, which crystal, dragon and daytime and weather it was

from all chats in this server xF

[cyan halo]

never got to trigger one

[tropic grove]

one in arch cave was active while there was a storm

[cyan halo]

good to know

[cyan halo]

it always says "Youre Calling to the Storm" the whole time

[gaunt stream]

So there are weather based ones?

[covert ocean]

Try differentiating between nighttime where it's super dark and cloudy vs nighttime with auroras. the 2nd one seems to do much better

[naive otter]

i know i only get this when 1 calling as blitz during raining weather. related to geode? no

[naive otter]

we been testing but im not 100% sure.

[covert ocean]

in my eldering video from a few weeks ago, I mentioned a purple crystal that ignored my blitz. 20 min later I came back (didn't really do anything in the meantime) and then it did work

I later found out that during the first time, it was cloudy and pitchblack at night, then the second time, the clouds had cleared and there were auroras

[gaunt stream]

[covert ocean]

I do think something plays a role there. I was thinking maybe daylight/moonlight; e.g. if it works during the day, it doesn't matter that much if it's morning or noon, there's always plenty of sunlight, even when raining

however at night time, the clouds block the moonlight almost completely

[naive otter]

keep brainstorming you awesome people! i'll be back tomorrow so far so good dont you think?

[covert ocean]

it would also be simpler than "this color likes morning with clear weather" which would be infuriating lmao

[naive otter]

could possibly be Match up dragon to color depending if its daytime or nighttime. but this is only my theory

[latent meadow]

I've found a lot of geodes, but not a single one of them were active...

[covert ocean]

I did find that for blitz, greens (and later light blue) worked great during daytime and purples during nighttime. yet red and dark blue never worked (and yellow, that stupid color)

maybe each species has a preferred color for daytime and one for nighttime, which are most likely to work?

although green seems to love everyone

😵‍💫

[covert ocean]

bad luck! keep looking and I'm sure you'll find an active one

[cyan halo]

standing infront of a purple one ig i come back at nighttime xD

[covert ocean]

yeah give it a try!

[gaunt stream]

Maybe all colors like all dragons, it's literally just dependent on the time of day/night, and the weather

[latent meadow]

Headset's dying and it's 5am, I'm calling it for now. lol Better luck next time.

[covert ocean]

tomorrow then ;)

or.. well, not tomorrow, later.. today? ;p

[latent meadow]

Yeah, that. lol

[naive otter]

so far here's what i can confirm if this is true
Red is for IR at Night
Green is for Blitz during the Day (possibly??) while magenta/purple at night
Cyan is for SS during the day and its Blue at night
Yellow is for ASD during the day so far this is what i got...

i have at least either seen it or done it around that i've noted above

[gaunt stream]

Green works for Blitz during the day

[latent meadow]

I've got an adult FS I'm testing, but it involves having an active crystal. lol

[covert ocean]

green also worked for IR during daytime

a low % IR

[naive otter]

could test higher IR's if possible to see if Elder % does matter

[cyan halo]

[latent meadow]

Allegedly, bio can activate yellow.

[cyan halo]

you can manually activate them???

[covert ocean]

they mean make it glow

[cyan halo]

yea yea i meant that

[covert ocean]

active = has a color
resonating = active geode starts glowing and humming and eventually explode

at least that's how I differentiate it

otherwise we have 2 things that 'active' could mean

[azure pulsar]

okay

[latent meadow]

I'm clarifying now.

[azure pulsar]

can an admin please give me the power to send this message, that got deleted for 6 times now? I can send it per dm before

[cosmic river]

cyan

[cyan halo]

Crystal activation:

SS:
Blue at night
Cyan at day
Green at ?
dark purple at ?

FS:
Blue at night while raining
Green at ?
Red at night while clear

ASD:
Yellow at dusk while clear
Green at day while clear

IR:
Green at ?
Blue at ?
Blue at day while ?

Blitz:
Purple at night
Green at day

[azure pulsar]

omg, you got the message trough!

nice

it got deleted for me

[cyan halo]

well

yeah credits to space fan btw

its his list wich gets deleted the whole time it seems

[azure pulsar]

thanks xD

but only for me, lol

[cyan halo]

weird

[cyan halo]

not for that ^^

[azure pulsar]

IR seems to be buggy with colours sometimes

[eager heath]

hm couldnt active green at day while clear on asd 🤔

[cyan halo]

ok the pruple one i was at deactivated ...

[latent meadow]

Okay, so the bio was able to resonate the geode, but got nothing from it, obviously. Seems like bio can just "give" a tick to surrounding members around a yellow.

[covert ocean]

so bios have a use now

yellows are quite common. bios can activate it - probably the only ones who can - and give others a tick

[cyan halo]

i have a theory

if a geode is active and for example its a purple one and an ir approaches to and interact with it will deactive itself bc its not meant for them

[covert ocean]

it could've been coincidence, they deactive after a while on their own too

[cyan halo]

hm

[latent meadow]

I never saw a single active geode... Next time. lol

[cyan halo]

could it be the server?

or ur just hella unlucky

[latent meadow]

Possibly, my RNG is infamously bad... Either way, both my headset and I are calling it for the night.

https://tenor.com/view/captain-price-call-of-duty-gif-2044578432353085527

[merry yarrow]

i think its just broken atm

[cyan halo]

is it always one active geode on the whole map, or can multiple geodes be active?

[covert ocean]

multiple can be active!

[tranquil cobalt]

Jao said all of them can be active at once, just next to impossable to happen

[cyan halo]

k

[gaunt stream]

[hallow mountain]

Ohh so now crystals do something

[gaunt stream]

These are different crystals

Not the big ones like we've been seeing

[bleak bridge]

i had a thought to these colours. arent they the same as the pearl colours?

some were saying it might be certain colours effect what % of elder you are? could it be linked to the rarity colours of the pearls?

[gaunt stream]

They were talking about the crystal's colors at that time 😅

Affecting the Elder %

[gaunt stream]

This is the most recent thing we've got

[mild smelt]

i checked a blue with rain and night with my fs 5 min ago nothing

[gaunt stream]

You might want to reply to the person who made that, not me 😅

[bleak bridge]

this is an out of the box theory
just for testing sake does anyone know the rarity tree for the pearls? i know red is cosmetics (maybe you have to equip a red pearl to use the red ones?)
im just spitballing some ideas in hopes it might help.
id ask people to track what %elder they already were when activating each colour or if they had any pearls equipped.

[gaunt stream]

Fair!

[mild smelt]

i checked a blue with rain and night with my fs 5 min ago nothing

[gaunt stream]

So far with every Crystal I've tried I've done with no pearls equipped

[white path]

im willing to run around on my asd to try diff crystals btw

IF you look for those crystals cause hunting the glowing ones down is eugh

[gaunt stream]

Hopefully someone will be able to help you, I'm still at work

[gloomy sand]

So far Red has only worked at night. My strong hypothesis is that there is RNG attached to each dragon (each person's personal dragon, not species) working with a specific crystal in addition to conditions being necessary. For example, green has gone off for every dragon, BUT two IRs activated it but only one of them got the tick. One had high prog, the one who didnt get the tick had low prog. But other times, low prog dragons got a tick from green. What could possibly be the explanation for that, other than RNG? And if this is an RNG based system in addition to needing to find the correct conditions, that's really irritating

these are only my findings so far

[white path]

white has ticked bio i think!

[gloomy sand]

Bio can elder?!

[white path]

no

but it responded to me

for some reason.

[gloomy sand]

-_- Welp... okay then

[white path]

this one

someone says its cyan

i think its white

[gloomy sand]

that is white

[white path]

yeah then it responded to my bio screm

[gloomy sand]

Time of day seems to matter for some crystals, not for others. So does weather. I need more data to definitively say if that is the case or not.

A red crystal gave a tick to a 60 prog and a 30 prog FS at the same time, but a 40 prog that was with them did NOT get the tick. So that would mean prog doesn't necessarily matter

It strongly implies that there is indeed RNG and that you may just simply "not be worthy" of that tick in that moment

OR the game is bugged

[gaunt stream]

So Green does respond to all dragons, nice

[merry yarrow]

on a server entirely on my own - gone to a bunch of the listed crystals none react to blitz

[gloomy sand]

time and weather matter

my data so far

[merry yarrow]

its sorta ridiculously complicated now - makes it nearly impossible - also im at a green, its morning, and its clear XD

[cyan halo]

maybe its for everyone standing around it bc white is neutral colour

[white path]

heres the thing

it didn't respond to a blitz

[cyan halo]

[covert ocean]

apparently bio can also make yellow resonate, which so far I don't think any other species has done. so it seems that bio can play a supportive role by making some geodes resonate so other dragons can get a tick from them. especially with yellow which hates everyone

[gloomy sand]

did other dragons tick off yellow once the bio started it?

[covert ocean]

Can't confirm or deny - I don't know of someone who has tested that

[cosmic slate]

Wait- Elder Stones/Geodes whatever- are an area effect? not just for the dragon who activates it?

[gloomy sand]

Everything I've seen indicates you must be 1 calling/participating in the activation to get a tick

It isn't just 1 person sets it off and anyone chilling there gets a tick

more than 1 person can tick at a time sometimes

[cosmic slate]

That brings another question- what is the window? not just that the dang thing is active, but for when all dragons need to scream at it? Does it matter?

[gloomy sand]

but we arent sure what decides who gets a tick and who doesnt when all conditions are correct - why did out of 5 fs 1 calling the crystal, only 2 got ticks?

[cosmic slate]

Sounds like our best bet is to elder normaly. The system currently is so complicated and unknown.

We'll figure it out though

[gaunt stream]

We got a small chunk of it figured out

I wonder if the dragons it didn't give a tick to were farther along in Eldering, which is why they didn't receive the tick?

[covert ocean]

See the good thing with this system is, even if you have no clue what any color does or means

you can still get ticks

[white path]

we tired it with the white one, it didn't give my buddy (a blitz) a tick

[covert ocean]

all you need to do is fly around, visit geodes, and yell at each one of them

[gloomy sand]

I've seen a 90 prog get a tick

[covert ocean]

which.. really, isn't so different from what you're doing when you're trying to figure it out

[gaunt stream]

I mean, when they're all grouped together, the Crystal might sense elder progression?

[gloomy sand]

Right, I thought so... but of the 2 IR who got a tick from a green crystal, 90 prog got tick, 26 prog did not

[gaunt stream]

Oooooh

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hitting-head-on-desk-cat-insane-cat-gif-24842238

[gloomy sand]

BUT with the flamestalkers on the red crystal, 60 prog got tick, 30 prog got tick, 40 prog did not. all together in a group

which is why I think you must have right time of day, weather, and a dragon that works on that color, AND there is a chance % that it works. RNG.

[cosmic slate]

I think imma check back in a week- my brain is starting to melt and i got work in a few hours X_X

[cyan halo]

so ive just managed to let a geode explode

Dragon: BS
Time: Night, clear sky
had a 1.3 Passvie Elder Tick already

Geode was green

[gloomy sand]

youre positive it was green?

[cyan halo]

i arrived, called at it and it immidiatly reacted to my call

[cyan halo]

positive

[gaunt stream]

That reminds me

[gloomy sand]

Again, I really think there must be RNG involved. I've had blitz not work at night, then it did

what other explanation other than "sometimes you may just not get it because of luck" is there

[gloomy sand]

ty!

[gaunt stream]

It was daytime mostly cloudy when I activated this one with Blitz on the smaller Snowy peak

[gloomy sand]

I've set green off in total clear conditions :S

[gaunt stream]

This one went off in fog with Blitz and SS

Toward evening, I think

[cyan halo]

the geode i had was at 17s and 595w

[cyan halo]

ouf fog is rare on my server

[gaunt stream]

The only things I've had to change weather on manually was snow and sandstorm

I've gotten rain like nobody's business, same with fog

[white path]

chat. is this us?

[gaunt stream]

[merry yarrow]

i kinda like that - gives the lil guy who cant elder something to do after reaching adult

[white path]

tbh i gotta redraw it with a dragon

which dragon should it be

[merry yarrow]

do the new guy.. everyones tryin to elder it

[gaunt stream]

https://tenor.com/view/sheldon-studying-bigbang-big-bang-gif-5021398

[cyan halo]

bs

[gloomy sand]

fr I was up 24+ hours

[cyan halo]

xD

[white path]

YEAH REAL

[gaunt stream]

I'm just happy I've been able to contribute via compiling crystal locations

[white path]

im so sorry i read that as cyst at first

[woven isle]

we just tried 3 ppl on a purple one with all types of dragons, nothing happened

[white path]

any elder%?

[gloomy sand]

im foaming at the mouth

light blue: morning, clear weather, IR with 26 prog got tick, IR with 90 prog did not

BUT

earlier: green crystal. day, fog, 90 prog IR got tick, 26 prog IR did not

[covert ocean]

[white path]

INCH RESTING

[gloomy sand]

maybe we are looking at this wrong? maybe YOUR DRAGON only works for certain crystals, instead of "CERTAIN CRYSTAL is for XYZ dragons"

[covert ocean]

like dragons can have a set of rules specific to that individual?

[gloomy sand]

yes

[covert ocean]

I gave up on the puzzle so I can finally log in and play now so time to properly dive in

[gloomy sand]

and its up to you to figure out what your specific crystals and conditions are

[covert ocean]

could be. it would also mean that for any new dragon you want to elder, you have to figure out which 'set' you have this time

we can learn the rule sets but need to first figure out which one our dragon got

it would mean that the system isn't boring/dead once figured out but retains some challenge

[gaunt stream]

^Jao watching us trying to figure this out

[woven isle]

one of us were 2.6, other 2.7, even tried with like 10%+ and 100% elder

[covert ocean]

100% elder won't get a tick / be able to resonate geodes

[woven isle]

well i was just trying to see if anything would happen

we even tried with bio

[covert ocean]

not a bad thought, cuz apparently bio can make some resonate lol

just can't get ticks. but likely a support role for other dragons

[woven isle]

ye well, i did read that someone made it explode with a bio, but we tried, we had all sorts of different dragons with different elder % and nada, now we're looking for new active ones

[gaunt stream]

It was a yellow one(?) But until you're able to see it for yourself take it with a grain of salt

I'm hopeful though as it would be nice for Bio to have a very helpful purpose

[woven isle]

got a green active, aim for it at any specific angle and 1 call? or just any random spot on it?

[gaunt stream]

Aim at the white geode part

And 1 call

[woven isle]

kk

[gaunt stream]

That seems to be the most effective spot for trying

(At least from what I've experienced)

[covert ocean]

yep I always aim at the white crystals to be safe

if it doesn't work, it's also worth getting a bit closer and trying again

[cosmic river]

cyan just reacted to an IR

[covert ocean]

so cyan also likes blitz, ss and IR

[cosmic river]

it didnt react earlier to any dragons whatsoever though

[covert ocean]

starting to feel like species doesn't mean poop lol

[covert ocean]

did time of day change?

[cosmic river]

IR got to 22% afterwards

[covert ocean]

or weather?

[cosmic river]

weather was the same

time of day was day

[covert ocean]

wot

did it initially ignore this IR too or was it the first attempt

[gloomy sand]

cyan just now wouldnt react to any dragon at evening time

[cosmic river]

initially a cyan at another location ignored all species

[gloomy sand]

but previously it did work at day

[woven isle]

we got both asd and bs and nothing is happening

[chilly iris]

(Likely a bug) Red geode at Night usually gives my IR a tick, but this time it activated and went off, though I didn't get the tick afterwards

[gloomy sand]

were you alone?

and close to it?

[chilly iris]

Yup just me

[gloomy sand]

I think the one on the ceiling in the crystal cave beneath the giant tree is too far away from the ledge to give the tick

[chilly iris]

Tbh I was at the usual range but, I'll keep trying see if I run into it again
If so I'll just make a report to be sure

But hey at least it went off :'D

[gloomy sand]

if you light the crystal, you should get the tick

that def seems buggy

[woven isle]

well we just tried on a green with asd, bs and ss nothing happened

[covert ocean]

I just got a tick from a red geode on my IR (2.7%) that ignored me earlier during dusk. now during night it worked

quite cloudy but still some auroras visible

[woven isle]

we got a bright green one, aimed at the white spot, it lit up, kept yelling at it with bs and it exploded, got 3%

[chilly iris]

Dark Blue once again worked for my IR, this time at Dawn (the other times were Day)

[white path]

hey chat

[gusty delta]

Alright so

I found a red gem last night, wasn’t activated, swapped between my dragons, when I got to FS, I was able to roar and activate it first try, i kepy spamming roar afterwards and every roar made the geode hum louder until it exploded giving me a 2.7% tick, it won’t tell you if you’ve “gotten stronger”

Just pay attention to the elder bar and you’ll notice the tick goes in after a few seconds,

[white path]

what % was your elder

[gusty delta]

It was also at dawn when this happened and I already had 15% eldering done before activating.

All my other dragons have Elder started or are done,

With that being said , a green geode reacted to my Blitz at 0% elder giving 3%

[white path]

hm

we

we really need to compile all these accounts somewhere

[gusty delta]

The last geode i was able to activate before my FS was the Green one on my Blitz and it was thunder storming when i was able to do it

took a few calls to activate too,

alright, just signed in, found another green geode, went up to it on my 0% Blitz and called while aiming at it, instantly started to glow inside and hum, every roar made it glow brighter until it exploded givving 2.7&

2.&

2.7%

Green geode confirmed for blitz eldering,

[covert ocean]

wait, multiple calls before it started resonating? did you change anything between calls, like where you were aiming or where you were standing? or did you call multiple times without moving the white crystals started glowing at all?

[gusty delta]

I am directly at the darkest part of the geode (middle) did 1 call, inside lit up and resonating, every call after made it brighter until it popped giving me the elder tiicks

aim*

[covert ocean]

I understand that, but you said it took multiple calls before it started glowing?

or did you mean multiple calls until it exploded

[gusty delta]

I did 1 call to light up the geode and then spam called afterwards to pop it

[covert ocean]

okay so it did start glowing right away

just making sure because if it only started glowing after several calls that would've been new info

[gusty delta]

Sometimes I need to reposition and look at it before it will glow, seems like theirs a “money” spot to aim at, which would be weird or its just server desync

[static mesa]

what i know so far is that green can be activated by any dragon and multiple at the same time

[covert ocean]

it should be the lightest part with the crystals in the middle

[heavy ridge]

I apparently dont have a screenshot from past devstream saved, but pearl rarity goes
Green>Blue>Purple>Yellow>Red
Like many RPG systems.

edit

Have a guide up now ❤️
https://discord.com/channels/576933363672285186/1287064491510730773

[gusty delta]

So far ive only been able to activate green with my blitz,

And if theirs more people on the rock calling before it pops everyone who called gets a tick

[covert ocean]

yep and the same dragon can resonate/explode multiple colors

[gusty delta]

Unless you aren’t the same species the geode requires

[static mesa]

i activated it with my SS

[covert ocean]

yep green works for all

[wide canopy]

Works for ss

Nighttime no weather

[hallow mountain]

Okay how do you find these?

do they spawn randomly?

[dense dome]

blue doesnt work on my bs

[gaunt stream]

They don't spawn randomly, but they glow randomly

[woven isle]

green is confirmed blitz, red is confirmed fs

[covert ocean]

green is everything

red is also IR

[maiden island]

I haven't gotten it to work with red

[woven isle]

no, we tried ir on red, we tried everything on magenta

[maiden island]

IR I mean

[covert ocean]

species may have some sort of indirect connection with the colors but it is not 1 to 1

[covert ocean]

there are more conditions

every dragon can make green resonate

and multiple people including me resonated red with an IR

[maiden island]

Yoy gotta say all the conditions m8 lol just saying that a dragon works does nothing XXD

[covert ocean]

it's not straight forward - we need to collect alll the data. it's complex

[woven isle]

we're making a list

[gaunt stream]

^What we have from Hanner so far

[woven isle]

seems like i just got a 2nd tick on blitz?

[blissful beacon]

Can add a yellow to that for ss and it was evening

[hallow mountain]

Am I the only one who can't see crystals? my friend is trying to show them to me but I legit can't see them

[blissful beacon]

clan mate said they saw one at fallen log but its not there now.

[gaunt stream]

For anyone joining the chat and wondering how the crystals work~ (Also I got the tick)

[static mesa]

how much was it ?

[gaunt stream]

3.5%

[blissful beacon]

"That's a ridiculous amount of screaming for a few ticks." - my kid LMAO - he's 10

[sweet forum]

Ok, so this crystal turned off, it hummed for a good 20-30 min (And glowed). In the server we got around 16 different people to yell at it for an extended period of time. some switched dragons too. We tried fs, ir, asd, bs, ss. None worked on this one. It was clear weather, daylight too. It eventually shut off. This is the crystal at BR under the rock. cords in the screenshot.

[covert ocean]

what color was it orignally?

[sweet forum]

same color, just glowed.

[covert ocean]

huh. it should have a distinct color compared to inactive ones

maybe it was a blue one

[sweet forum]

It was the purple/magenta one

[covert ocean]

ahh

it looks to be day, and purps don't seem to enjoy daylight much

[sweet forum]

Ahhhh, yeahhhh. Again we tried 16 people with different dragons per person. It seems purple hates daylight

or we're all just insanely unlucky

[edgy mulch]

this looks so gatekeepable by clans so far

didnt they mention specifically trying to make it more solo friendly???

[wraith flame]

mhm

[covert ocean]

there's likely ~50 geodes on the entire map, it'll be hard to gatekeep all of them. and most of them are inactive, meaning they'd just be protecting geodes that might not do anything for them for hours

they'd be wasting their own time more than anyone elses. you can just go to a different spot

though soloing anything in pvp with big clans is probably, kinda by design, difficult

[sweet forum]

Shame the crystal didnt work for all 16+ of us. I really wanted to see if it'd give multiple people ticks.

[covert ocean]

better luck next time hopefully 😄

[edgy mulch]

still seems even worse than elder shrooms because these are even easier to locate especially once all the locations are mapped out. big clan gets a group of 15+ people do a quick route around the map to find all the active ones and just sit on them for hours

[covert ocean]

they're only active for probably max 40 min. and others can and will become active while they are camping those

[wraith flame]

it seems like only two get active out of all of them at a time

[heavy ridge]

From the perspective of a small-to moderately sized clan, you can maybe lock down a few in your "territory" nest around them so someone's keeping an eye on it. But there's too many and they're too random to try and gatekeep others out. You'll get rolled by another clan for even trying.

[covert ocean]

Jao apparently said that they could all be active at once. just near impossible for it to happen but there's no limit

[wraith flame]

oh wow seems pretty rare then :c

[covert ocean]

the entire system is designed around travelling around looking for active geodes and then hoping you can use them.

Sitting in one spot is the opposite of that. Can you do it? Yeah. Will it be effective? Not quite. Will it bother others much? Not really. The map is huge and there's way more geodes

[heavy ridge]

I could see an "eldering pack" flying circuits, 10-15 dragons at a time. But that's noticable and you'd have an opportunity to slide in before or after they arrive.

[wraith flame]

indeed

[covert ocean]

I actually kinda like that instead of making it impossible to camp something (which would kinda just require the method to not involve anything on the map), they just made it a huge time waste to camp it

much better lol

[cosmic slate]

Guarding would definitely be redundant

[gloomy sand]

I've only gott purple to work at day 😦

[covert ocean]

I hope Jao considered the scenario that if we all go insane trying to figure out his little system he won't have much players left

[heavy ridge]

Agreed, additionally, you start getting eldering packs? The clans are going to start ambushing each other on the routes.
"Quick, [other clan] has a eldering pack on, let's all log in and try to wipe it!"

glorious

[gloomy sand]

Two answers. Either there's RNG luck/chance that it won't work for you. Or each person's individual dragon has crystals that will work for them and they gotta figure it out per dragon. Not per species, but per dragon. Example: my fs might work on red crystals but not with dark blue. but your fs works with dark blue.

like every time you grow a new dragon you gotta figure out what crystals work for your dragon

and then ALSO the conditions of time and weather have to be right

it cannot be as simple as "red crystal at night works for fs" because we have seen evidence that this isnt the case. that some fs get the tick and some dont.

[covert ocean]

I also like the idea that the chance scales based on 'how' right the conditions are. like let's say green works best in daylight. that doesn't mean it'll never work at night, but it's just much less likely

[gloomy sand]

I just hate that chance is involved.

[covert ocean]

an RNG factor, but more as a flavour on top rather than "it's just RNG"

[covert ocean]

it'll keep us busy for ages to figure it out lmao

[heavy ridge]

Or it could be a scenario, where specific dragons can get night activations on a color, and others can get a day activation

[covert ocean]

has any blitz been able to resonate green at night or purple during day?

reds seem to do best at night for FS/IR

💩 https://i.imgur.com/j68II7Z.png

[cold summit]

purple + ss + evening + clear + ~45% starting elder percentage gave a tick

[covert ocean]

nooo 😂

[heavy ridge]

I'm seeing a lot of SS-at-night activations, I'm thinking this might be the method to encourage players to use the "nocturnal" dragons at night.

[covert ocean]

that does sound cool, but it'd be very species specific.. don't think the others are very pronounced nocturnal or otherwise right?

unless each species has a 'unique' condition like that

[woven isle]

have anyone figured out which dragon that can activate yellow?

[heavy ridge]

It night not be "only the nocturnals resonate at night"
But if SS have a lot of night activations, and Mr, Natural Advantage Against SSs, the FS, has a lot of night activations.

I might be barking up the wrong tree, but there might be a pattern there.

[heavy ridge]

Bios

[covert ocean]

apparently bios out of all dragons can

and someone said asd though that would be a first I think

[woven isle]

oh

we tried asd, nothing happened

[heavy ridge]

I'm just spitballing, but it could be x dragon resonates a,b, and c crystals. a&b when it's dark, c during the day. And then we get the horrific to track overlap we've been getting so far.

[woven isle]

IR activated yellow

[naive otter]

what time of day? what was the weather like?

what elder percent was your Derg? etc

[heavy ridge]

(Recommend taking a screenshot when you get a crystal to resonate)

[maiden island]

people please, don't just tell us dragon and color give us everything, Day - Weather - your current percentage

maybe even your dragons gender though i doubt thats anything lmao

[cold summit]

yet another purple + ss + evening + clear + around 46%

my 2.5% ss got ignored twice

[blissful beacon]

SS activated yellow as well - was evening and I don't remember the weather

[slender arrow]

I don’t think so the glowing only last about 20 mins and the crystals that glow from what we have observed are random And even when they glow they sometimes don’t work

[heavy ridge]

Uh oh. Could you estimate how far into the evening each attempt was?

[cold summit]

i think this is early evening right after dusk. The second one happened 5-10 mins after

[heavy ridge]

Kay, that might be a not dark enough yet
Or might be confirmation bias.

TY

[cold summit]

nah wasnt dark at all, sun barely set..or probably didnt

[lethal lion]

Haven't found a single one that worked yet

Can someone give me some luck?

Spend more than 4 hours flying around, nothing.

[covert ocean]

Could’ve been dusk still?

[maiden island]

it'd be nice if they didn't pomf randomly and deactivate themself

[covert ocean]

Dusk and evening are separate in the info panel

[cold summit]

i double checked

[woven isle]

oh okay, forgot to pay attention to the weather, but it was day

[cold summit]

saw dusk and then evening, during evening it popped

[covert ocean]

Got dawn, morning, noon, evening, dusk, night iirc. If daytime is related I would expect to to stick to those

[covert ocean]

Ahh okay no that’s good

[lethal lion]

So.. SS their crystals activate at night?

[cold summit]

I mean to say that I was on a different one nearby during dusk which we couldnt figure out how to make it work (red), then when we moved to the purple one it was already evening

[covert ocean]

If it went from dusk to evening then by evening you mean night I think?

Either way, I also had an IR who failed to resonate a red geode during dusk and later the same one during night it worked

[lethal lion]

This the case or?

[covert ocean]

Most of them it seems

[gray ocean]

I activated Green at Night on Blitz Clear weather at about 5% elder prog

[cold summit]

by the way, red wasnt activating during dusk with ss + bs + fs. Not sure about the others' percentages

[sweet forum]

HOLY MOLY ok fellas i got somee news from a lil experiment we did.

[lethal lion]

How did u guys find and active one
All the ones I visited were dormand

[maiden island]

any news on the Cyan? cause we've gotten NOTHING to activate it so far

[cold summit]

Unlucky I guess, I'm not sure if random or..

[covert ocean]

Just keep searching. For now atleast it’s just luck

[sweet forum]

This crystal, at pride rock, was glowing purple. Me and an ss, 2 blitz, and an fs yelled at it for a good bit during the day, it didnt react. we asked an admin to make it night, and it had light rain, and it started glowing while the ss yelled at it. It blow up, and 2 people got ticks, the ss and a blitz that was nearby. the rest did not get ticks.

it had to be night, pure night

this night

[cold summit]

wait hold on, did i misread dusk? Dusk happens after evening o.o