lore-discussion-spoilers

[rigid mural]

Speedrun to find and post buff actor before Ash leaves

[fickle wing]

mellow would drink shampoo cause it smells good and next thing performance gang knows they gotta rush em 2 the nearest hospital or something

[frigid tinsel]

I win

[keen shore]

posting image at the speed of fast

[fickle wing]

actor looks like my dog after a bath in that second bit

[frigid tinsel]

don’t ask why I had that saved

[keen shore]

I cannot believe both of you managed to do it that quickly I am impressed

[rigid mural]

this weeks ts is krii's dog, apparently

[rigid iron]

Your dog with the spaghetti but it's actor on the table eating cheese

[supple sierra]

actor's pointy chin tho

[fickle wing]

the next ts yall

[rigid mural]

BLESSED

[frigid tinsel]

pupper

[keen shore]

looks like hermit

[half glen]

Awww

[frigid tinsel]

inb4 Salem predicts that next week's TS is Yeti

[novel marten]

Wagabond Fluffer

• fluffy hair
• cute mask
• doggy bark call

37636/10 would spend all my candles

[fickle wing]

HELP

[rigid iron]

YEAH THAT ONE

[rigid mural]

Stickman violence

[keen shore]

I’m going to look into the middle distance with a dramatic look in my eyes if true. I can’t keep getting away with this.

[rigid mural]

Salem can you predict a lightseeker TS on my birthday please

[keen shore]

listen I will try. It’s both of our birthdays so maybe we can stand in a circle and chant for laidback pioneer or something I really want the umbrella,
but realistically I do not think that will happen somehow

[half glen]

The best kind of violence

[frigid tinsel]

well now that won't come true

[rigid mural]

Shushing scholar hasn't been there for 2 years, we can manifest them together.

[rigid iron]

YES

[novel marten]

It’s been fun but now I need to sneep I can barely stay awake

[fickle wing]

setting out a stick and box trap for shush using new books and salami as bait

[novel marten]

Skybot warned me about the dangers of no sneep snorp

[pastel brook]

Where do our Sky kids go when we sleep?

[rigid mural]

DON'T HURT SHUSH THEY ARE A LITTLE OVERHELMED BY NOISE BUT THEY ARE VERY NICE

[half glen]

Pov you joined in the middle of Flight:

[keen shore]

when I was a moth I had to relive them as the ts and almost cried so I need to think about this also HEY STOP USING ME AS BAIT KRII

[frigid tinsel]

someone who hasn't done today's sapling quest abduct Shushling Light Scholar

[fickle wing]

HELP

[keen shore]

going to make a dramatic callout post about this… /j

[rigid mural]

If I'm fast enough I can try holding their hand before they ascend so they stay down for a bit

[novel marten]

Plot twist, they take you upwards like a piggyback rocket

[fickle wing]

putting rocks in their pockets to weigh em down

[half glen]

"Gotta blast!"

Friendship ended with cozy,
Now lore chat is my friend
Jk...unless

[novel marten]

[white junco]

one of the last times shush’s tree was on the dailies I managed to snag a hug literally as they were ascending.’looked a little silly in-game but.’thinking

[keen shore]

Trap them under a cup like a spider?

[white junco]

be nice to shush they’re trying :(

[rigid mural]

Update: they just dropped me and I hit a bookshelf

[white junco]

oh wait are we trapping them under a cup and sliding a paper underneath to set them outside bc i am on board with that plan

[keen shore]

Hmmm,,,

• Vela just fell from sky
• Vela is French
• Vela fell near vault

really makes you think

[solemn barn]

Someone talk about how Sky is a "loop" Born, Play, Die, and rebirth

[proud pulsar]

hmmmm

[rigid mural]

I don't use he/him

[solemn barn]

What about this season is kind of the event that breaks that kind of barrier
I already hyped with this blog post

[white junco]

we have no idea we have no more information than the blog post

[keen shore]

I’m losing it at this being the only counterpoint to the joke evidence I listed

[solemn barn]

We can only speculate until beta comes and speculate at that place

[keen shore]

Conspiracy theory: tlp tried to steal velas identity and vela was actually the one who fell. due to some possible communication errors the fact that vela does not use he/him was lost in translation and it just snoebwalled from there

[white junco]

vela is a tlp moth

[keen shore]

tlp uses birds to fly around because vela is obsessed with birds it’s all coming together

[solemn barn]

Birds in Sky is fake.

[white junco]

french powers

[solemn barn]

#conspiracy-discussion-sky

[frigid tinsel]

Ah, someone who believes in the Isle/Prairie Elder spy ring conspiracy

[rigid mural]

You know what, I'm not even gonna bother making counter arguments because your allegations are just impossible to be true. Good night.

Jsyk, I never get lost.

[frigid tinsel]

That’s the third time you say you were going to bed tonight

[keen shore]

You know what, I'm not even gonna bother making counter arguments because your allegations are ||just impossible to be|| true. Good night. - Vela, 2022

[rigid mural]

My mom wishes I was as cute as the little prince when I was a kid, but instead I ate dirt.

[keen shore]

vela says they’re going to bed when in actuality they are going to hermit valley for the third little prince quest. The more you know.

[white junco]

vela may or may not go to sleep but i sure am, gn lore chat 💜

[frigid tinsel]

Can’t believe I’m going to sleep before Vela

[keen shore]

you can be cute AND eat dirt I am a shining example of this smh

[rigid mural]

Aren't you a cat tho

[frigid tinsel]

Salem is a krill

[keen shore]

maybe… but I am NOT. A krill

[rigid mural]

Also hermit valley is one of my hangout spots because it has rainbows

[keen shore]

Or is it because one of your wuests is there hmmmm

[rigid mural]

Actually you know what, I think I'm gonna go back to hating on TLP season.

[frigid tinsel]

Oi

[rigid mural]

TGC's first mistake was trusting french brands

Gn lore chat

[keen shore]

Vela saying goodnight counter: 4

[outer hare]

Have you seen the next season blog thingy I cant help but think Eden season

[half glen]

It did say "season of prophecy"...

[crystal cape]

Season of prophecy elements
Water
Fire
Earth
Air

Season of Experience elements
Void
Mind

[compact jungle]

What if the season takes place in the same realm maps, but it looks and functions.. different?

Like a different view on the maps

Toggle it off, game looks normal
Toggle it on, game looks and sort of functions.. differently

[compact jungle]

Sort of like that pill mechanic in Fran Bow

[trim yoke]

My theory about this season is it's going to be heavily eden related. We may see a seasonal zone in eden with a large open area with spirits and other deco scattered around. What I believe is the prophecy part will be related to post quest and reveal small parts opening up the main lore drop of the season. Likely being of the whole eden and king downfall. I believe the quests will take place going across each realm like with LP

[crystal cape]

*computer: gave 'moth' krill slayer x1
gave 'moth' blaster x1
gave 'moth' ability shock wave shout

[hazy harbor]

Are we going to this lost/dark realm so we can collect the lost light?

[crystal cape]

What if there are more hidden spirit in the shifted mode ? what if those spirits are there but can't be seen until the game mode is shifted

[hazy harbor]

Lost spirit

I mean- a spirit that lost in the dark realm

[outer hare]

Season of deep dark Eden madness-

[nimble ingot]

Comparing yhe performance cast to the rhythm cast.
Admiring actor, troupe greeter, and thoughtful director have true animal masks; while with Ash's blessed bean of an answer helps clesr up why the performance cast masks are animal like, but still count as animal masks.
Even the guide's is still humanlike based on the fact it blinks.

Love it, thanks Ash. ❤

[night pecan]

idk where to put this so: props to whoever designed the sound in sky, i'm playing it with headphones for the first time and you can really hear the heavy flaps when you're going really fast and i like it

[nimble ingot]

Season of Eclipse

[outer hare]

Season of End

[night pecan]

season of seasons

like spring summer autumn winter

[outer hare]

season of everything

[half glen]

season of nothing

Gn sky discord

[nimble ingot]

Season of nihilism ^^

Season of Portals

If we keep guessing, inevitably one of them might be the actual season name.

[outer hare]

season of terror-

[nimble ingot]

Season of Bobbit

[outer hare]

Season of consume

A Season to End all Seasons-

[winged pebble]

Season of no

Season of

[nimble ingot]

Season of Revelations

[outer hare]

Season of ✨*realisation *✨

[nimble ingot]

Season of Storms

[outer hare]

Season of Eyes

[nimble ingot]

Season of Cloud Chibis

[outer hare]

Season of Floor Dust

[nimble ingot]

Alright, change of topic for a moment.
Any thoughts on the possibility of all the realms having different skies?
Dawn in Twilight would be amazing, at least for me when looking at the realm as more a sunrise than the magical hours just before the sun starts rising.
Or a Different Wasteland (I would not say darker) but would love to see more of the concept art in play (such as the monster in the clouds above, or possibly the flying stone creatures).
Heck, even an alternate version of Vault's outdoors.

I wonder if the spirits might be added in the different realms like before?
It would have been since the season of Rhythm when season spirits were added in different realms. And if it would be like that again, it wouldn't be a bad thing to be honest.

[trim yoke]

👁️📖👁️ 🇨 🇦 🇵 🇪 ❔

[dapper pagoda]

https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1527132632924016640?s=21&t=7YQw9xm8DcAA420-SxNIFw hey lore discussion

[nimble ingot]

yup yup

[dapper pagoda]

i honestly think it's gonna be an eden season

[nimble ingot]

agreed, though wonder what the theme and spirits would be like.

If it is like the prophecy season, then it would be lore driven (possibly mention the elders), or let the environment tell a story.

[unreal shuttle]

I’m freaking out I need more answers

[nimble ingot]

while waiting for more lore crumbs, what would you like to know?

[unreal shuttle]

About this new season, if it’ll take place in eden? It’ll involve the elders and the prince/king? I just wake up and see the blog so rn I’m just too excited

[proven oyster]

agreed bro, seems to be telling a few years ago before everything went 'dark'

does this have something to do with the statue of king Eden that oob has to meet?, I imagine it

[nimble ingot]

I see.
Well, one can speculate till the sun goes down, there is not much else we have to work with at the moment.

What we do know is this will be the next season, the teasers seem to imply that the eden mountain is part of the season's theme, the realm might be affected (I am thinking it would change sky colour like in Flight, or more like the Sanctuary island), and the story telling may be similar to how the season of Prophecy was done (in other words, potential elder lore, and possibly more info about what happened to the kingdoms and the King).
But keeping in mind that TGC aims to have each season be unique, the prophecy clue may imply that the season would not have trails, or at least in the same way it was already presented.

The season sure is dark, and Eden would fit the bill. Though we may have to wait and see how the lore would pan out.

Keep in mind that it would be fair game for the beta chat to include what happens in the season while it is in beta (no brainer there), but this channel.
Lore chat, may not include beta spoilers, unfortunately, so proceed with caution.

[nimble ingot]

Which statue OOB?
Is this a reference to an old image?

[proven oyster]

https://youtu.be/724Fd53mzPY pardon me, sir

i don't know if it will have anything to do with it or not but I'm just imagining if it could have something to do with the theme qqqq :))

[nimble ingot]

I remember this video, though still fail to see what it was trying to show.
Either it was a piece of rubble, or stone that happens to resemble the King's mask with its jagged edges. Or there was something else.

Here is an old statue of the King that used to be in Dawn and Valley at one time, during Light Awaits.
Even though it is no longer in the game, it may still be considered to be part of the game's history.

[proven oyster]

if it's like prophecy there is a possibility we will go to another realm like entering into meditation first

[nimble ingot]

True, though season would likely have a new mechanic that may not be like how the season of prophecy was handled.
Ergo, there may not be another cave of prophecies where skykids would undergo trials.

[proven oyster]

hint doesn't explain any except Eden and empty prairie, i don't know in the future there will be more or not, but for sure, do we have to meet the quest giver to go directly to another realm?

[nimble ingot]

That part has been consistent in every season thus far.
Every season has had a season guide with a group of spirits (usually in groups of either 4 or 6), and each season had the skykids interact with the guide to receive quests.
Whether this guide would be in a season area, or possibly a hub like section similar to the prophecy cave with it trails, or the flight season area with it wind path, is unclear.
I do think the devs would include a place for the guide to remain in as this would allow players that joined the game after the season would end to be able to relive the season quests.

Which is not an option for the seasons of Gratitude, Belonging, Lightseekers or Rhythm since the guides either did not have season quests to relive, or have introduced daily quests that is now a daily event and no longer particular to that season (being season of Rhythm to my recollection).

[proven oyster]

qwqqqq thanks for explaining let's see how will it be

[lean kayak]

Whoaa thats so cool

[trim yoke]

Maybe a task like the eden door which would require shrines to be lit to open a gate to access a part of the seasonal area??? 👀
(Imagine)

[regal forge]

Maybe it will be like assembly where you need help of other players

[nimble ingot]

Though please make the quest dynamic.
Meaning if done solo, the quest would accomodate the player. And if done with say 8 players, then the quest can ramp things up to 11 for true chaos.

[trim yoke]

I see that likely with maybe the third and fourth quests... Maybe we'll have to drag a memory of a key aspect of lore in the final quest through eden as part of a quest itself... Maybe we'll get shown sole unique things in eden during this time period... Maybe we'll learn about the diamond?????
We'll wait and see

Also linking back to what I said above, I wasn't meaning as part of a quest, however we may see a section open that won't be available until an update for say the third quest where the area will be added in and available to be accessed?

[rigid mural]

Ceasing Commodore kinda looks like Santa

[nimble ingot]

Santa club spirits.
Wise Grandpa, meditating monastic, ceasing commodore, bearhug hermit, indifferent alchemist

[covert carbon]

I never finished assembly I legit never have more than 3 friends online at once and I’m too scared to ask them for help😔

So if it is a season like that I’m going to cry

[nimble ingot]

Oh and Dawn Elder (that beard should count too)

[nimble ingot]

If you like, perhaps folks on here would like to help.
Feel free to ask.

[regal forge]

I want to have one of the spirits you have to guide the light to…. but in eden
I want to watch that chaos unfold

We should have a season about elders that we don’t realize is about them until quests start getting closer and closer to what we know about current events and the spirits involved either have elders in their spirit memory or slowly look more and more like the elders as the quests continue

[nimble ingot]

I'd love to see more of the elders in the game.

[violet furnace]

aaaa i’m so hyped for the new season!

[sharp lichen]

I wonder if we’ll see else flashbacks of some sort in the next season?

[violet furnace]

i was always thinking about a season where all the issues in the sky world (specifically GW) are resolved in it, but that would work better as a final season being the one where TGC stops directly supporting sky and moves on

[thin dirge]

Damn, was at school so I missed the entire chaos that shouldve occurred here from the announcement. Just saw it now and found myself jumping up and down, squealing like a child seeing an ice cream truck-

[thin dirge]

Would explain the "images and videos on social media that do not feel like what you may be used to seeing."

We have seen flashbacks in some form before, but only in spirit memories. We could see something else if its flashback heavy, of actual events occurring

[sharp lichen]

Yeah- I doubt it’ll be really hype and chaotic, considering that I doubt TGC will leave Sky.

[thin dirge]

I know hype died down by now, but just seeing it now for me is enough to get me PUMPED. If only I could call Bricky and all the others who were here that left. This may be the moment they've been waiting for in centuries

[sharp lichen]

We have absolutely no idea what’s gonna happen- We have no idea if it’ll even tie into the main lore

[nimble ingot]

Summoning the old ones?
um..... I honestly have no idea.

[sharp lichen]

They’re all gone now, unfortunately. At least, most of them.

[nimble ingot]

At least some of the OG skykid theorists are lurking about, but not entirely sure tbh.

[thin dirge]

Its the confirmed to be the same as Prophecy, thats already already major enough. Prophecy was the only one that was really confirmed to be from main main lore.

[nimble ingot]

Just glad most vets do stick around still.

[thin dirge]

Yeah, thats me, though I dont lurk here often, but Im still on discord from time to time. If people really want to ask me about lore, its always alright to ping me whenever!

Thats why I put the "Lore Veteran" title there, lol

Bricky's tumblr is now archived, so I cant send messages to them now through there I think

[rigid mural]

Bricky is still around here I think, just not active.

[nimble ingot]

"We’ve mentioned before that not all of our Seasons are designed to do the same things. Some, like Season of the Little Prince, slant heavily towards direct narrative while others, like Season of Prophecy, are more about gameplay, with story being more ambient in the environment.

The next Season leans more in the direction of Season of Prophecy. We’re introducing a brand new world element that we feel will inject a lot of life into the day-to-day Sky experience, and offer more meaningful opportunities for players to come together to support each other. This will be a permanent addition that will allow us to do some cool event-based storytelling."
[https://www.thatskygame.com/news/preparing-a-new-season-experience]

"The next Season leans more in the direction of Season of Prophecy." But "not all ... Seasons are designed to do the same things."
Meaning the this new season could be similar to the season of Prophecy (as the season to be lore oriented, included the elders in its murals, and featured trails). But will likely have something new to bring into the game as "a permanent addition that will allow us to do some cool event-based storytelling."

[mild valve]

How was sky before prophecy? What change after? Maybe we get the fifth element? If we do quest with the 4 elements?

[thin dirge]

There is a chance they'll come back, probs when beta comes out. Since they did return when they found out about lore stuff going on in Sky last time

[rigid mural]

Honestly I think we don't really need that much fanfare behind lore vets, their experience is greatly appreciated but I feel like this chat can be a bit intimidating to newcomers at times.

[nimble ingot]

In season of Enchantment, there were 6.

Seasons before Prophecy did not mention the Elders.
Seasons before Enchantment did not have a dedicated season area for all of the spirits to be found in.

This season might have spirits that may appear in the realms once more. Perhaps not as memories, though hypothetically, as part of quests or parts in the season's story.

[mild valve]

Yes that I mean. We do evry realm. Something. Fi d new spirits. Etc..

Maybe we get weather and sunsets In Other realms too

[rigid mural]

Sliding TGC a 20 euro bill. More basegame spirit cameos, pretty please ? I want to complete my timeline

[mild valve]

Thatswhy tgc. Brings back old probs...

[thin dirge]

Season of Prophecy was the first of its kind. Before, all Seasons with the exception of Lightseekers I think, had five spirits and a QG. And suddenly, TGC suddenly dropped this teaser of Proph OUT OF NOWHERE and people freaked out as it was the first time that it was released before a Season has ended, and a first time a teaser was just so ominous. Before then, a lot of Seasons were lighthearted and just doing the events, but it all changed when Prophecy happened.

[nimble ingot]

Agreed.
The chat is just that.
It is nearly impossible, let alone impractical to have in depth lore conversations here and still be welcoming to newcomers.
This chat is sort of like Sky.
New players/skykids join the game, learn about its history from the game itself, older players as well as first hand as time goes on. Then they soon become the folks that would be teaching newer players about the game, and the whole things goes on in this cycle.

[mild valve]

If every season has new place.. Sky becomes to big.. For a game.. To much wide area.

[thin dirge]

Well, there has been bigger, but yeah... The old concepts were even bigger. Thats why it took them so long to prepare the game in the first place

[mild valve]

I dont real, use new areas like starlight or abyss. Just for wings.

They pay attention to the main realms.. Thats great. And do something there.

[thin dirge]

Hmm, its also important to note that they're being careful of adding new things without changing anything that has been established AND also make it so that phones can at least handle it.

[tranquil harbor]

Yeah, places like Sanctuary have you coming back because there are events to do, but the other seasonal areas need some zest. Performance may not have this issue, since it has the stage

[nimble ingot]

Season of Lightseekers had 6 spirits, excluding the quest giver
(piggyback lightseeker, doublefive light catcher, laidback pioneer, twirling champion, crab whisperer and shushing scholar)
Basically one spirit for each realm.

Prophecy was the first season to feature 4 spirits instead of the usual 6. Season of Assembly brought back the trend of 6 spirits.

[rigid mural]

Yeah, my thoughts exactly, I come here to be silly or get an idea of what people think of lore drops, sometimes I wax poetic about the game but otherwise I'm not expecting in-depth convos everyday.
I think it's nice to see new faces settling there too :]

[thin dirge]

I once had the thought of inviting all the lore folks here to do a reenactment of Sky's lore with the stage. I think I did a 1 hour session of just narrating only the first part of the lore. Props to the kid who decided to join me and act it out

[mild valve]

I am very Curious about the story behind the game. 😊

[tranquil harbor]

I want more news on the animation. The switch trailer was gorgeous

[rigid mural]

I think assembly got 6 spirits to be linked to each lightseeker; heard the devs justified 4 spirit seasons by saying it's to be able to spend more time working on the season itself, so we will likely see them more and more often, imo.

[tranquil harbor]

Honestly, 4 spirits is a decent number of them. We get an emote per spirit, so if every season had 6 we'd run out real fast. How many emotions/calls/stances can one skid have? Like, 4 seems like a lot at that point

[thin dirge]

Imagine next Season.... having no Spirit at all... just us

[rigid mural]

Oh my god,,, we were the spirits all along,,,

[thin dirge]

Wait, that might actually be whats gonna happen here... Who's the QG? The kid we met in the dark room?

[tranquil harbor]

Honestly, the wording 'it might not look like a season at all on first glance' makes me think 'they're nixing quest giver/spirits/cosmetics/candles' and like, logically that sounds nuts, but the seed has been planted

[thin dirge]

Imagine QG just being this gold glowy sky kid... It'll be like Sky: the Light Awaits all over again....

[rigid mural]

It's really exciting to see everyone's ideas on how this season will be different from the others !

I personally think we will still get a guide and 4 spirits to give us incentive to buy the pass, but who knows

[thin dirge]

For context, originally, we gain our cape back then by meeting this mysterious glowy child in Light Awaits

[tranquil harbor]

Honestly, I think the elders being the quest givers at some point for a season would be cool as heck. Like, they're the closest thing the skids have to adult supervision. I want them to give us tasks.

[mild valve]

The new black tier2 comes out... If it's a dark season

[rigid mural]

You want chores, Ennarcia ???

[thin dirge]

This idea actually seems legitimate, especially if its an Eden based Season... Or the QG could actually be Megabird, and their spirit just appears to us in a for of a glow sky kid.

So... Sky's intro narrator?

[tranquil harbor]

It's different when it's video game chores

[nimble ingot]

Each season needs a quest giver.
Otherwise anyone that joins after the season would not be able experience the season, such as the first 4 seasons (gratitude, belonging, Lightseekers and rhythm).
That and season have always had new cosmetics and emotes. A season without them might not be received as well.

[rigid mural]

[looks at animal crossing] you're not wrong

[thin dirge]

Still could be a glowy sky child, that mirrors us, like the one in the dark room

[mild valve]

Krill sound? What kind of emotes are still missing?

[tranquil harbor]

Yeah like, logically, they should have spirits and a pass to sell us, but still... That wording, ya know?

[thin dirge]

Or maybe it's Megabird, but they appear to us as a glowy sky child (Not literally, as some incarnation of it I mean.) And they'll talk like the narrator in Sky's intro

[rigid mural]

I gtg walk the dog, but those of you that are impatient like me, see you in beta chats when it drops there !

[tranquil harbor]

I hope they're not hyping us up only to have us not interact with the season for 97% of it like all other seasons. Like, how often do you really visit a seasonal area after the first two days? You go do your dailies in an entirely different place and ignore it until the new quest drops. I want to play seasonal stuff during seasons.

[thin dirge]

Honestly, I cant think of an Eden Season seriously featuring normal spirits like before. At least, if its about Eden itself.

[mild valve]

That I mean. Not really usefu new areas

[nimble ingot]

In Light Awaits, it is believed that a certain bird of light could be a representation of the Megabrid, back when Dawn was a going through different iterations.

[thin dirge]

Wait.... There was a comment about something in Prophecy (when it was still recent)

Someone pointed out the Prophets didnt leave after the final cutscene, and then it was suggested they may return in a future as a result. After that, I think I highly speculated that Season of Prophecy might be a "part 1" of some lore series.

Is it possible... that next Season would feature them again??

[white junco]

I know this isn’t what we’re gonna get with this upcoming season, but i’d really like to see another seasonal area like Sanctuary. the amount of wl and wax in there draws players back more often, especially since they added the two wax events

[thin dirge]

Yeah, sadly, that's kinda how it turned out for Prophecy, and barely ANYONE outside of the lore chat understood its significance or what it really revealed, despite being hyped up as the "Origin story of the Kingdom"

But I dont recall Prophecy having this kind of ominous description back then either like this one just did. The main ominous part of it was when the teaser was released BEFORE Sanctuary ended (it was the first time) and how different it was, which freaked people out at the time

[tranquil harbor]

Yeah, like I said earlier, the existing seasonal areas need more zest to them to draw players in. Like, give me a reason to want to run around there beyond to be a sky hipster

[thin dirge]

Prophecy was described to be a new experience as a Season, but it was never described to be sooo entirely new and different that people would even doubt it was a Season. So this one gotta be big, not even the last hyped up lore Season was described on the same level

[nimble ingot]

Speaking of winged light, consider this.
Players that have been in the game since the global release may have collected enough winged light, that if enough traveling spirits with buffs, or the new season with winged light are added.
We may start seeing skykids walking around with 12 wedges.

Imagine that.

[tranquil harbor]

They're about to do an experiment and I hope it pays off. Because gameplay wise, current seasons are rather lacking. Like I said, 'go to the seasonal area when there is a quest and collect candles somewhere else you always go to every other day' is basically the loop I've seen so far. (But I'm an Abyss Moth so I've only been in two seasons)

@nimble ingot I think I saw a chart and the max wing light someone from day 1 can get is like... 180 something? Out of the 200 they need? It's gonna be a bit longer.

[thin dirge]

Also, they said this Season is a new permanent thing. Meaning that its not optional to play through like other Seasons after they were over? Like, I know the other Seasons are also there permanently, but that's obvious to players. They wouldn't have to point that out if it was just the same as the others

[tranquil harbor]

TGC needs to add the scheme emote to the discord. The little goblin hand rubbing encapsulates my feelings

[thin dirge]

"This will be a permanent addition that will allow us to do some cool event-based storytelling.", now that is an interesting description...

Also, another collab soon. I hope it's not gonna be like how TLP started (Where all lore players got jebaited)

[tranquil harbor]

I wonder if collab means something like the Kizuna Ai Collab where we get a pack of items or if it's little prince style

[nimble ingot]

The max any skykid can have is about 196.

You are not wrong with the daily loop in the game, and what the season boils down to when it comes to the grind.
While the new quests are interesting, with the way they are spaced out. The game unfortunately developed a cycle of skykids going on a grind for candles. While the season does offer an occasional activity to refresh the gameplay, it may not do much in the quality of life, even if some quests can be relived.

Personally am not a fan of the inflation of prices to make players either spend more time grinding for candles in the game, or spend more money to afford the cosmetics. Even with the friendship mechanics, there is and always will be a matter of hit and miss to any given player that makes friends.
Either they make friends that form meaningful bonds that withstands the draining experience of daily grinds. Or the player keeps playing hoping to find a friend with that desired bond. Let alone maintain a lasting hold on the game without getting burned out and leaving the game entirely.

[tranquil harbor]

Ooo, 196? I am happy to be wrong, 12 wedges is exciting

[white junco]

i’m excited for when we get enough wl for 12 wedges. would convince me to spend the time collecting all the wl

[thin dirge]

Considering how they teased it, its probs the latter. Also, Sky likes to collab with things that are related to its creation I think (Sky was based off of TLP), and Kizuna AI was more of a side thing, so...
I wonder if it'll indirectly tell us more of how Sky came to be (I learned a lot about the message and purpose of the Sky Prince/King Concept lore from TLP, so yeah)

[nimble ingot]

I do hope that this may help refresh the game play of regular players, while not drastically changing the experience of new players.

It would be interesting if any new content would have to segment off new players to allow them to build up to the new content.
Almost like other games that section off new areas that have high level encounters. That way, lower level characters are able to work their way through the existing content, while higher level characters are able to enjoy new content without worry of spoiling the game for new players.

[royal horizon]

Hello lore discussion I have come here to say I think it’s going to bring day night cycle because thats what the image looks like 🤔

[white junco]

i am really really excited that we might be seeing lighting changes throughout the realms, but if isle gets left out again i am going to scream

[tranquil harbor]

I am still of the notion that newborns should have a separate isle server until they complete the tutorial and step into prairie social area. That way Moths can get the tutorial they need, while isle can get some love without being too distracting/TGC can railroad the babies on the correct path

[zinc oyster]

👀

[nimble ingot]

A day and night cycle would be interesting.
Especially given that each realm represents a stage of life (thus a time of day).

That and a theory I once posted that time being relative to the skykid would come into play. As the realms seem to be caught up in a time loop, and if time is able to move forward once more, it may mean that something big is in the works in Sky.
Something that may be related to the King, or the Sky Prince, as far as that old theory went.

[solemn depot]

[rigid mural]

T-pose Daleth isle summoning circle

[royal horizon]

Imagine a Eden season 🌝/j

[solemn depot]

could be

[soft timber]

This is so cursed

[white junco]

WOOOOO YEAH DALETH

[tranquil harbor]

The skids teaching Grandpa memes

[nimble ingot]

. 🪨 🪨 .
🪨 🪨
. .
🪨 🪨
. 🪨 🪨 .

[white junco]

i’m gonna teach daleth how to dab

[nimble ingot]

Good luck with that

[white junco]

isle of dab

[clear glacier]

Ok but what if mr ghost from the office makes a comeback in the next season
i may miss mr ghost a little too much

[crystal cape]

Added ui because yes

[clear glacier]

oh no

[nimble ingot]

why is the background blurred?

[crystal cape]

I was messing with distance blur like tgc do and i made the strength bit high and did the drawing and if i undo it all the ui goes away so i was like “sigh.. let's post this”

[carmine garnet]

I’m really looking forward to that upcoming season, it looks great

[soft timber]

appears with grabby hands Nom noms!!

[thin dirge]

Ugh, I'm excited for the Season, but I somehow feel like it's major enough that I shoudn't spoil myself. I wanna go into the Season blind-

[rigid mural]

Not encouraging to spoil yourself but I feel like TGC is competent enough for their seasons to be great even with spoilers !

[thin dirge]

I probably could pull it off, since I'm not active on this server that often

Yeah, though I really wanna see how I would react if I went in purely blind. It's not something that happens with me often since I'm always a spoiler-seeker

[tranquil harbor]

My kin
Every time I'm like 'I will not spoil myself' and then I'm eating spoilers for breakfast

[thin dirge]

Happened with me with Prophecy.

[rigid mural]

I managed to avoid spoilers for the Season of Flight, it's completely doable !

[tranquil harbor]

It's doable, just difficult. Especially if you hang out here because as soon as reset hits someone has a paragraphs long theory about the new quests

[rigid mural]

Ehhh people in the community are usually respectful about that.

[thin dirge]

Yeah, and should be easier for me this time since I'm not that active here in this sever, and the amount of time I spent in Discord has been becoming less and less recently

[novel marten]

I just came in here and this is what I am greeted to.

[tranquil harbor]

'Avoid lore chat until I can play sky' is always a fun game

[soft timber]

grabby hands Let me have lore please offers candles

[pliant radish]

I'm imagining this season is like
What the world of sky is really like, darkness everywhere and krills

[thin dirge]

I just hope you guys remember that beta spoilers arent allowed here, even if you filter them... I kept seeing yall with beta spoilers from Abyss before 4th quest released, and I'm not letting you all off the hook this time

[floral knot]

I would cry if krill found me on the spot.

[tranquil harbor]

If they put krills in prairie I swear
@thin dirge look if someone guesses the lore it's not our fault TGC put down good crumbs

[rigid mural]

I like getting spoilers lately because it gives me more time to ruminate on theories until it hits live; got other servers to scratch the theory itch on where beta is allowed in the meantime.

[pliant radish]

Imagine
Getting lore
On how Eden came to be

[tranquil harbor]

Knowing beta can be frustrating. I sat here watching 'do skids eat' discussions, knowing the snack table was coming and I could say nothing. For weeks

[thin dirge]

I mean, people literally kept talking abt the unreleased quest in filters back then I wouldn't call that "guessing"-

[tranquil harbor]

I must have missed those times then

[rigid mural]

Not directed at you since we may not be talking about the same thing, but you could see Quest 4 assets without any glitch or chibi clipping before it even hit live, just not as well.

[pliant radish]

In the news tgc mentioned that this season is going to be more gameplay like prophecy.
I wonder how difficult it'll be

[floral knot]

I heard someone said it's will be a bit more challenging like a maze or something like that ^

[sinful gull]

Question have you guys seen the response to someone’s tweet yet or no

[thin dirge]

Lets see which of those "Diamond theories" back in 2020 turn out to be true

[novel marten]

Fire trial 2

[pliant radish]

Explosion?

[tranquil harbor]

Fire trial my beloathed

[hushed steeple]

Eden run as a trial

[pliant radish]

EXPLOSION

[sharp lichen]

It already did?

[thin dirge]

Hmm, should I do a Lore & Theories Bingo for this Season? On which one actually happens this Season?

[white junco]

eden explosion part 2: electric boogaloo

[sinful gull]

For a second time maybe? I dunno maybe the big rock wasn’t done with us

[pliant radish]

Eden: the game

[floral knot]

now I want boss fight

[rigid mural]

Hits me more like when you go "Can I go to the bathroom ?" and the teacher replies "Can you ?"

[sharp lichen]

I would imagine it to be a large change to Eden- not it actually exploding. After all, the Eden Storm seems balanced/receding.

[hushed steeple]

Imagine having a daily quest: Complete a rebirth cycle 0/1

[pliant radish]

NAAAH

[nimble ingot]

XD
you can thank Alaisdar for it

[thin dirge]

The one who gets a bingo get a free heart (Im sorry, no free Season passes, Im pure f2p )

[tranquil harbor]

I wonder if there is going to be a change to how Eden works

[white junco]

daily quest: die

[soft timber]

Love how TGC's answer to a realm exploding casually went "Is it really now?"

[sinful gull]

I dunno the way they responded to this question is kinda sus 📮

[white junco]

tgc social media is kinda sus tbf

[tranquil harbor]

I'd offer but I'm pretty sure sky bot would come in here about how that's 'against the rules' or something

[sharp lichen]

It doesn’t look like it’s exploding.I still think there’s gonna be a change to it- maybe it got absorbed by the Light?

[soft timber]

Daily quest: Yeet a moth to Eden

[rigid mural]

They got a new social media guy, give them some time. Who remembers the timeline freakout ?

[sinful gull]

Obviously what we know so far is that it’s something about Eden but what are they doing to my beloved corrupt floaty rock 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[tranquil harbor]

Thank god for Ash giving us mercy

[clear glacier]

oh yeah the timeline freakout caused by the tiktok comment
im pretty sure i accidentally started it 😭

[pliant radish]

Someone explain to me what that is

[sinful gull]

So glad I wasn’t here for that…… me and my girlfriend, however, spent an hour freaking out over it,

[thin dirge]

Wait, so this Season will be about the Diamond explosion?? Ohhh boyyy, now all those flashbacks of those theories from 2020 are just coming back to me...

Diamond Explosion Theory... Diamond is Sentient Theory... King is the Diamond theory... etc etc etc

I wanna go back to all those comments, oh god all those peeps from 2020 who left are really missing out, I feel so bad-

[tranquil harbor]

the timeline thing? the tiktok social media said the spirits were from 'different timelines' when what they really meant were different time periods. We had people coming in here for days dropping a photo of the comment like 'discuss'

[pliant radish]

Man sky really do like diamonds..
Looking at season of abyss rn

[white junco]

the real diamond was the friends we made along the way

[clear glacier]

i feel targeted

[novel marten]

On tiktok the Sky social media responded to a comment about spirits, saying that spirits ‘lived in different timelines’

Ash, the concept artist, later corrected this and said it was meaning ‘different time periods’

[sharp lichen]

Us live players will wait a few months, don’t worry!

[tranquil harbor]

Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of your own actions /j

[thin dirge]

Its sad, those people who may have predicted it, but will never live to see it-

[pliant radish]

Oh I see, thanks for explaining :D

[sinful gull]

I CANT WAIT THAT LONG 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[sharp lichen]

If you’re all like this with 2 vague images, I don’t want to imagine this chat when it actually comes

[soft timber]

dances

[thin dirge]

I'm actually starting to feel sad for them... At least have Bricky come back...

[sinful gull]

it’ll explode like eden did 😋

[pliant radish]

Imagine first person gameplay
Random thought, sounds cool now

[soft timber]

The spinning would be so wild in first person

[pliant radish]

HAHA

[tranquil harbor]

On one hand, sky doesn't have the graphics for that. On the other, I want my skid to look down at her lil mitten hands

[thin dirge]

Hmm, I suddenly wanna compile all those theories back in 2020, and maybe even create that bingo....

[sharp lichen]

Seems impossible with Sky’s current gameplay.
These theories are chaotic-

[pliant radish]

Sky iceburg

[thin dirge]

Though, the Vault doc is still there right? They're probs still compiled there-

[soft timber]

Skyburg

[clear glacier]

now if sky turned into a battle game once you enter wasteland
and a health bar appeared in graveyard..

[pliant radish]

Oh my god it's the wither

[rigid mural]

Some time during Flight, there was a graphic bug that caused the Eden castle we see from the realms to look even more like it was in shambles; patch notes referred to it as "floating ruins".

[tranquil harbor]

We do have a health bar actually, and our HP is garbage. It's that little star when we're outta lights

[novel marten]

you have entered a PVP enabled area

[soft timber]

Imagine the chaos of looking at your own mitten hands while a chibi is looking up at you

[clear glacier]

The idea of pvp (maybe aoe idk) in Sky is crazy
But crazy doesn't mean impossible considering we have scattered spears, shields, magic staff, elements (trials) etc

[thin dirge]

Oml... Never grasped how old that Theory Vault Doc was... A lot of the theories there were from 2019-

Should've known that since its main users were most active at 2020-

[nimble ingot]

Matrix style, the skykid starts to believe when they look down at their low poly mitten hands and starts to see individual fingers.
Then looks around to notice that they have toes, there are blades of grass, spirits have mouths and the glyphs on murals can be read.

[tranquil harbor]

I can't imagine the skids being actively malicious to each other, but I can imagine it being framed as a 'war game' or something to the skids, rather than something truly dangerous

[untold notch]

like bonking your friend with an empty cardboard tube

[rigid mural]

These docs are very outdated too I think

[novel marten]

Or what if it’s like The Stanley Parable and you don’t have a visible body, but when you hold items you can see that (maybe a candle?)

[soft timber]

Teams of skids who dress up as certain animals or seasons, maybe even as entire season groups and just start play fighting

[novel marten]

Warrior cats roleplay

[nimble ingot]

Interestingly, it gave some insight to how the game would use its assets and that there are in fact different versions of the Eden castle that makes an appearance in the game.
Even if these do represent the same structure, I am grateful for that bug to have occurred as we would not have gotten the name otherwise.

[thin dirge]

Hmm, yeah, looking back at the top of the Vault Doc, it's only up to Season of Proph. That was where the old guys started leaving, sometime after Prophecy (When Dreams occurred). Including myself actually

[rigid mural]

I never really got to meet someone from the old guard besides Raider tbh.

[white junco]

only actual fighting I can think of in sky would be like, a chibi spamming honk next to a musician and getting tackled. but that’s it

[thin dirge]

"Old guard"? New term?

[tranquil harbor]

Raider is old guard?

[rigid mural]

We need PvP specifically in Vault first floor & Prairie 8p puzzle

[untold notch]

idk I guess technically I'm old but like I don't play

[thin dirge]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FI-

wait, this game is family friendly, nvm

[white junco]

GOD. anyone who tries to light up the whole room instead of helping to complete the puzzle is getting jumped.

[novel marten]

IsleClan
PrairieClan
ForestClan
ValleyClan
WastelandClan
VaultClan

[tranquil harbor]

Look, if we don't have enough people there is nothing wrong with introducing yourself

[rigid mural]

Comes from DnD, Gygax-ian old guard is to DnD players what someone from pre-release beta is to us !
Just means people that were here and active really early.

[thin dirge]

Ooh.

(Not one of those guys who played early, started playing properly during Sanc (Aug 15th 2020), had attempts to play game in Mach)

[rigid mural]

Yeah I play DnD.

[white junco]

no no i agree on that, i’m not that antisocial
i mean when we have all 8 people in the room and everyone is trying to activate the elevator, and then one person goes around lighting people instead of helping

[nimble ingot]

Do skykids manifest a candle when they take out their light. Or do skykids have a hidden ability to store items in something called hammerspace. An interdimensional pocket dimension where skykids can summon objects, candles etc.

Side note about candles, I noticed there is one spirit that does not exactly do the emote that us skykids receive.
The ceremonial worshipper does not do their emote when prompted in their node tree, while every other spirit does even if the emote is an interactive one (ex. bearhug).
I wonder if that is meant to imply that raising a candle, and the ceremony itself are linked and that these spirits had more to say about worshipping the Megabird. Similar to how we never see any spirit ever acknowledge or directly pay respect to the King.
Was the King not a ruler that the spirits and other elders would recognise?
Or is TGC purposefully withholding that part of the lore for the end game?

[tranquil harbor]

I know, I was just playin' around. I considered adding /j after but dilly dallied too long

[nimble ingot]

That is very flattering, though I am a novice at D&D
In a way, I am still very much a moth by comparison of the player base.

[pliant radish]

The fanart and angst people create says otherwise

[novel marten]

Maybe some of the spirits like the Assembly fam were too young to understand it all in their memories?

But also, remember that eye of eden was important to the king. It’s the only realm WITHOUT spirits to save, so…

I also vaguely remember reading something that the Eden elder/king can’t be saved, so if that’s true I wonder if it also would apply to any other ancestor spirits who lived there

[thin dirge]

Well, you know lore, its dark too, and they even had to filter a lore specific term here because it wasnt friendly...

[nimble ingot]

Sky lore is like an onion 🧅
It has layers and the more you cut into them, the more you want to cry.

[white junco]

“i love sky cotl” I say while crying my eyes out

[rigid mural]

You're a sky lore old guard (due to being an enchant vet and prophecy being where lore chat peaked), not a dnd one
Though you're already a pretty good game master !

[pliant radish]

now that I think about it
The raising candle emote is prtaically useless and it's usually accidentally pressed when scrolling through the emote list
But if this season needs like 8 players to use that emote to unlock something else, sounds like a pain

[novel marten]

(Awkwardly raises candle when trying to find another emote)

[white junco]

ok but doing the raising candle emote with friends makes the candles glow much brighter than they would have individually. what’s up with that?

[rigid mural]

Friendship :)

[thin dirge]

What they really said was this in a livestream:

"Is there an Eden Elder?"
"There was one... But now, there's nothing left to save"

It can, however, be interpreted differently since its just really vague. My first interpretation was that it could either mean Eden Elder can't be saved now, or that it actually meant "King was already saved", and with that, there's really "nothing to save" there anymore because they're not there now.

[pliant radish]

8 puzzle in prarie is annoying sometimes when sever doesn't merge LOL

[novel marten]

When you have 8 players but one of them is sleeping

[tranquil harbor]

Oh god no. That emote is glitched on switch. I have to undock to use it. That said, it has uses. You can more easily light someone riding piggy back if their uber is tall

[nimble ingot]

The emote is an interesting and odd one to say the least.

There is even concept art that implies it was once considered to be used as a deterrent to dark creature attacks.
The emote is also limited as some areas would not allow for the emote to be used. And I am not talking about when under water or when one's light is out.

Unless I am not mistaken, the emote would not work in the final area of Eden, nor during some events. I am not sure when or where, nor the reason. But it is interesting how that is one of the few emotes that have a hidden mechanic in the game, albeit it is relatively useless outside of being the emote used to activate spirit statues.

[rigid mural]

I like using it to light stuff that's a bit too high since my avatar is already pretty tall !

[nimble ingot]

Here is the concept art in question.

[thin dirge]

Though, the first part of the answer actually does suggest former instead, but the second half of it can be really taken either way. For now, lets keep it at a neutral stance. After all, Ash did say theyre still kinda "around" (idk what they meant by that)

Def the inspiration of Abyss-

[nimble ingot]

Meaning that they are lurking in the shadows.
They are omnipotent and lies in wait for the perfect time to strike.

One may say that is krill like behaviour.
Though that is also the tactic used by wall chibis, or cloud chibis

(in all seriousnous, they may likely just be reading the chat and would respond when they would like to jumpscare the chat or drop a few lore beans).

[tranquil harbor]

Wasn't there a pic of the skids adding in numbers with the candle. They'd hold candles together until u got 3+ and then they'd raise them and seem to get stronger in numbers

(Ash isn't even online right now)

[rigid mural]

Lore chat is TGC's court jesters

[thin dirge]

Hmm, not around like the other Elders, meaning they're not just lurking around somewhere

[tranquil harbor]

I think Raider was talking about Ash

[thin dirge]

Ah

[rigid mural]

Us when the news dropped:

Fresh out of the theater kid season too

[tranquil harbor]

Oh yeah, we have a jester outfit now

[tranquil harbor]

skids are so cute drawn in this concept style. They're like fat little ducklings or something Also I love u forever for finding this

[soft timber]

Chunklings if you will

[nimble ingot]

Still have not fully weaned off Tom Zhoa concept art.

[tranquil harbor]

It's good concept art

[dusty leaf]

I agree jdjfjfj

[white junco]

question: does the little heart shape still show around the candles when you do this emote now? I have two images from around the same time, one with and one without, and i can’t remember 😔

[tranquil harbor]

I've seen the heart shape around the candles before, but I'm on switch, where the emote is bugged. I would assume it wasn't changed

[white junco]

true, but this screenshot is old enough i wasn’t sure

[novel marten]

I think this still happens

[rigid mural]

From some angles, the heart dissappears, probably due to awkward camera rendering !

[white junco]

yeah that sounds like sky

[rigid mural]

Sky is a game.

[white junco]

i think the candle raise emote was bugged when i was a moth, sky sure is a game

[tranquil harbor]

It's still bugged. I can not use it unless I undock and use touch screen

[novel marten]

To be fair this is an emote most players don’t intentionally use often, but still

[white junco]

ah, we could use it but the extra light effect wasn’t there

[novel marten]

I wish you could still sit down and glitch the candle out. It was so useful for grandma

[white junco]

the good old days of going afk and sitting down with your candle in random places

[rigid mural]

I miss going AFK at geyser and grandma, but at least we can do that in social light areas now even if it's slower.

[novel marten]

The only bad thing about afk at social light areas is that my phone becomes a dying star

[white junco]

i still really dislike the afk mechanic but at least tgc has been adding more wax spots

[novel marten]

It’s just counter intuitive to me. Why have idle wax spots when you also are punishing afk players

[white junco]

but see, they don’t actually want you to go afk at the idle wax spots. they want you to sit around and chat with friends

[novel marten]

I get that part but most of my friends are in opposite time zones for me, so

At the very least a solo player could make good use of these spots for music practice or something and I try to do that, especially with the recent update to sheets

I just feel like I can only go to geyser or grandma because I’m a solo player most of the time

Of course, candles aren’t everything and for me it’s not the end goal of playing the game, but I just like to have options

[frigid tinsel]

Sigh

[white junco]

oh don’t get me wrong, I think it’s absolute nonsense. they added afk for days of bloom 2021 because players were afk farming under the tree, which was apparently considered “exploiting game mechanics.” i think this might’ve even been before the chevron system was added, but even if it wasn’t you didn’t get that many candles from the bloom tree in the first place 😔

[nimble ingot]

oof.
Those are meant to be rocks. 🪨
Darn...

[frigid tinsel]

I’ll see it when I get on computer

[novel marten]

Yes the afk barrier was added right before the chevron system which is kinda bad timing but oh well

[tranquil harbor]

I knew of a way around it but I think they fixed that with the recent update too actually.

[nimble ingot]

How is it now?
I edited it a bit.

[frigid tinsel]

It is shape

[nimble ingot]

ok.
Discord broke my rocks. at least the shape is right.

[nimble ingot]

There we go

[frigid tinsel]

Nah prob my iOS, quite a few emojis turn into mystery boxes

[nimble ingot]

Where is the mr. Incredible meme when needed. lol

Rocks are Rocks.

[random token]

Rocks do be rocks

[molten hornet]

a wonderful meme really

[brisk ore]

Were krills originally light creatures covered in dark?

[tranquil harbor]

Krills are corrupted creatures

[brisk ore]

so they are made of darkness?

[tranquil harbor]

they are corrupted by darkness

[brisk ore]

what I meant is were Krills originally creatures that were not corrupted and were light creatures?

[uncut pond]

We don't know for sure but yeah probably

[nimble ingot]

If they are corrupted creatures, that would mean that they were once not corrupted.

[brisk ore]

it would be cool to see the source of corruption or see the king/corrupted king

[sharp lichen]

Either krills are corrupted light creatures, corrupted light creature remains, or corrupted machines. Those are the 3 biggest theories.

[spark cairn]

What would a corrupted spirit look like?

[sharp lichen]

I’d imagine it would be simple: a weak, greyed out spirit with darkness plants growing on them. No need for edge!

[lime sierra]

Like the ones in tearful light miner's memories?

[pale plinth]

a very sickly person
or maybe a half-statue

[brisk ore]

I would imagine darkness coming out of their body

[lime sierra]

Maybe it looks like blight or gangrene

[simple flicker]

Now I'm thinking about mushroom gore spirits lol

[brisk ore]

i would imagine a corrupted spirit as ;
darkness coming out of their chest
they effect sky kids when sky kids try to light them
They can have a little story of how they got corrupted or left out by their friends
They don't move

[white junco]

i mean, at the end of each spirit memory we break them out of a husk made from the same corruption dust found on krills and crabs. who’s to say we aren’t freeing them from corruption?

[brisk ore]

couldn't some corrupted spirits be against sky kids?

[lime sierra]

But why are all of them corrupted? Was there some sort of big extinction event that wiped out all theses dudes? Was it maybe because of the big red diamond

[brisk ore]

I believe that the majority of them are corrupted because the corrupted king spread the darkness and they probably tried to survive with light but the light ran out so the darkness took over

as we know that you burn dark plants with candles

[lime sierra]

Oooh like I t he switch trailer the candles were actually plants and flowers but then maybe they ran out of those and then they resorted to manufactured light like candles

[brisk ore]

this could be a possibility too

Is there a prince related to the story as well?

[lime sierra]

Idk if there's a prince in the story but there's a prince in the final elder cutscene and in concept art 🤔
Maybe it counts idk

[novel marten]

The king/prince are generally thought to be connected or related to each other

Not to be confused with The Little Prince who had a season

[nimble ingot]

I think there is concept art for it. Though have to look for it.

[brisk ore]

i feel like the prince took form as a king

[lime sierra]

Mecha suit angel Babang whazam
He looks like he's wearing a mecha suit when he's the king

[brisk ore]

Wait does anyone have the king / prince concept art

[strange siren]

What does this mean I'm still a little confused the eden we see in the distance is the same eden as the one we go to?

[white junco]

oh hey, look at that

[lime sierra]

Makes sense because lots of evidence of time passing is shown in the realms I mean literally the official lore is about from baby-old age, birth to death

[strange siren]

Oh so it is different Edens in the distance because we are moving forward in time?

[uncut pond]

What the TGC TikTok comment meant is that it's different points in the timeline

As you advance through the game, time is supposed to advance as well
Why it resets every time you return is probably because, well, it's a game

[lime sierra]

Ye maybe they are all like screenshots of the same realm and that's why they usually don't have a day night cycle

[nimble ingot]

Credit to Florence that had the image in Discord: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

[white junco]

though that would also imply that the realms are each frozen in a different time in the kingdom (aka the isle we see may have been the isle long ago and not the way it was when the calamity occurred) which is also incredibly confusing

[lime sierra]

OMG WHAT IF IN THE NEW SEASON THEY ACTUALLY SHOW WHAT THEY LOOKED LIKE during the catastrophe
prairie looks sus

[strange siren]

We do go through portals to get to the realms, so I could see them also teleporting us in time. What is homespace then if this is the case

[hushed steeple]

The next season is about eden 0-o ?

[untold notch]

we think it will be and it definitely seems likely

[uncut pond]

I stand by my theory that it's just a game thing because permanent changes to the environment based on progress is a weird thing to do in a game where you're supposed to commit NG+ every time

[unreal shuttle]

I think the realms are memories from the spirits and that’s why the time never change

[white junco]

i’m not talking about the progression of time here

[lime sierra]

But I mean they do that in quests
It's kinda weird man because we can replay them again and again
TIME TRAVELLING SKYKIDS CONIRMS?!?⁉️⁉️

[uncut pond]

Yeah exactly

[strange siren]

With the recurring theme of stars, then maybe eden is like starlight. The starlight we see and the state of the actual star can be completely different. We see a young star, but millions of light-years away at the actual star, it could be dead.

If we were able to travel towards a distant a star, we would see it change

[unreal shuttle]

Yeah the elders are the falling stars

[white junco]

who in sky isn’t a fallen star tbh

[unreal shuttle]

Spirits maybe?

[regal forge]

Do you think the reason sky kids are always kids is because stars lifespan is actually millions to billions of years?
Like we just age super slow because of our connections to the stars and things?

[white junco]

maybe. but that depends on your interpretation of the second performance quest

[regal forge]

Speaking of the second quest:
Was the child in all of the different paths the same on or different kids each time?
Do we know who any of them are or just guessing?

[unreal shuttle]

But I think that’s referring elders are falling stars means they came from orbit and sky kids and the prince they came from the skies or the clouds means they came from megabird, she created it

[strange siren]

Are the elders kind of godlike? Were there ever new elders? Or have they always been the same. The flight QG was an apprentice of the Priaire elder, so it made me wonder, what exactly were they doing as an apprentice?

[unreal shuttle]

Wait I don’t remember so I’m a bit lost

[white junco]

SKYKID STAR CONNECTIONS LOVE THESE
that’s very possible! another thing i like to think is that skykids formed like new stars after a supernova: the damage to the realms caused by the calamity left souls and light scattered like a nebula. Over time that light starts to cluster together and reform, and then eventually, we exist.
could explain how skykids seem to be a mix of ancestors and creatures, as well as why we’re the descendants and the spirits are ancestors without the two groups being related in the traditional sense

[unreal shuttle]

Idk, there’s a theory that said valley elders are new elders and they used to be others elders but die

[regal forge]

Which ancestor are you a child of
Buzz feed quiz’s are gonna happen now-

Do you think spirits are aware of us when we relive their spirit memory? They know we’re seeing that piece of their lives?

[strange siren]

We do look like we are made of stone like the elders, but also softer like the spirits we also use their cape tech

[white junco]

that theory might’ve been based on very early concepts depicting a Priestess as the elder of the valley, but there’s also this concept which mentions “unseen Ancestors.” im not sure whether ancestors at this stage in development referred to spirits or elders

[regal forge]

Sky kids who fall from the sky and crash into things are really just shooting stars

[unreal shuttle]

I like to think elders came from orbit that is like an Olympus, and they are like minor gods they got banished to the lands of sky

[rigid mural]

YO I AM GRABBING THIS BC IT FITS WITH MY "Skykids are something born of the ancestors" THEORY

[regal forge]

Sounds like the ‘unseen ancestors’ reference the twins before you meet them
Like they have a lot of statues (like the two we see in the races, next to the temple, etc.) but they aren’t anywhere nearby because we haven’t met them yet

[white junco]

i think it was leaning towards suggesting that there are realms in this world that we don’t visit. either that or just that valley had more people than we meet as spirits

[regal forge]

Do you think maybe all the seasonal areas we’ve seen so far are under watch/care of the ancestors we know and the new season coming shows us a new realm we don’t know of yet?

[unreal shuttle]

Omg that would be crazy another elder

[regal forge]

New elder hair-
Makes all veterans go through the grind of completing a constellation

[unreal shuttle]

Uuuh I would love to see that not gonna lie

[white junco]

i think it’s going to take place within the realms we already have. i’m hoping to see permanent changes to the realm and the goal of the skykids. this would also save tgc the headache of making entirely new seasonal areas, they’ve seemed a bit crunched for time lately

[regal forge]

It seems to be something like prophecy where instead of having things like village of dreams and the wind paths that are pretty and sometimes helpful to run around
Instead of quests and done have things you can still actively play with and interact in like the trials

[unreal shuttle]

I think we can take very seriously this since there’s a early concept and maybe those “unsee ancestors” are an idea didn’t take place since it also talks about a Dark era were the prince/king fight and the dark era I know is the civil war in gw

[regal forge]

I hope to heck relating it to prophecy does not mean more fireworms. I hate those things and they scare me

[white junco]

think by “related to prophecy” they mostly meant a lore-heavy season that changes things up. but i’d love to see them build on the connection between the trials and Eden

[unreal shuttle]

YES, i don’t like krill’s f4rts neither and I think we don’t need more

[regal forge]

Actually.,, more dark creatures sounds interesting. Maybe new ones

[hushed steeple]

Season of fireworms confirmed

[lime sierra]

Dark lobsters

[unreal shuttle]

Yeah plus it may have some mini game likes trial but not the same as trials you know

[white junco]

shadows are made of smoke and fire and darkness. they’re probably unique to the fire trial but ya never know

[unreal shuttle]

More dark creatures YES, but no more krill’s f4rts

[hushed steeple]

Prophecy they chalk up as the gameplay season, but it gave the only lore the game has. If they go the route of very subtle, solid information, im all for it.

And of course its going to drown yall in worms >:]

[unreal shuttle]

Thinking about trials, where y’all think there are place the trials? I mean you go to another realm or where? Cuz fire trial looks like a Death Star

[lime sierra]

Maybe in an illusion like the vault theory

[white junco]

well there are huge parallels between the trials and eden. some think that the trials were part of the skykid prophecy and were originally created to prepare them for eden (ok i just made that up but i think it holds up)
water trial resembles the eden light and requires patience, just like avoiding rocks in eden. fire trial may be preparing you to avoid the krills. and then there’s the flavor text
if we saw just a regular area in eden that reflected one of the trials i’d lose my mind

[regal forge]

Hey speaking of vault what are the star like things floating around?
Through it we can see windows and walls of the building were in but what are the things floating around?

[unreal shuttle]

Yeah but vault look more like a dream and trial line you really get tp to other place

[white junco]

the trials could either be mind spaces or actual locations in the cave. remember, the entrance to the Cave of Prophecies is a portal. we have no idea where it actually is

[regal forge]

The other lore of the trials was a prophecy saying someone would come and pass all the trials
It was said they would be the ruler I believe
So I think the king had something to do with them as well

[unreal shuttle]

Ohhh I see I think I understand and I think I loose it

So mean while the king and the elders where doing their things, it comes a prophecy of a kid that would save all so then started the trials and the prophets. I feel like cristobal colon I discovered something people know long time ago xd

[keen shore]

@rigid mural

[sharp lichen]

I believe so, yes. A TGC dev corrected it, saying that it meant “time periods” instead of “timelines.”

[keen shore]

every time I see that screenshot I am obligated 2 harass my friends with it

[lime sierra]

Kinda checks out bc the realms templss all weirdly look the same and everything

[frigid tinsel]

Every time I see that tiktok comment posted here, I have a digital aneurysm

[keen shore]

I don’t think this is the case, although I would kill for it to be true

[unreal shuttle]

Please someone explain me about prophecy lore I need to catch up for the next season and enchantment the light and element thing still get me confused

[sharp lichen]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message here’s a theory I made:

[lime sierra]

In the walk paint it tells the story of one person who successfully did all trials and a prophecy that showed the elders using the elements to go to eden

[lyric isle]

I hear Enchantment

I would infodump but I have things to do

[unreal shuttle]

Noouu please tell me

[modest basalt]

Hleo people of the lore channel
Absolutely forgot to share this meme
Thanks for the cool person an art of which I saw here

Shared the full version of my drawing in the art channel

[keen shore]

You can hang a picture of it on your wall in order to keep lorechat regulars away. Kinda like fending away vampires with crosses

[regal forge]

In valley there’s two colored flags. Red and blue
This implies two different racing teams
So which elder is which team

[frigid tinsel]

I’d rather have the lorechat regulars here who agree time shenanigans in Sky would be a headache

[hushed steeple]

I refuse to consider alef resh appearance in game. My soul will not be crushed again.

[lyric isle]

how do you keep me away? “all creatures are born naturally into the world” and the thing saying krill are corrupted

[frigid tinsel]

Even tho krill being corrupted is canon?

[lyric isle]

felt. me with

keep your hopes low my soul’s been crushed a couple times I get you

[white junco]

question do you know where that first bit comes from 👀 i’ve been trying to find it and i don’t trust the old lore docs as a source

[hushed steeple]

I did have a dream he was in game and it was a horror. There was a place every few min you had to take cover or something would look for you and one hit kill you, and other times King would appear randomly and turn the sky red, and attempt to catch your skykid.

[regal forge]

Krill before corruption looked like shrimp

[keen shore]

I think they meant like. Those two things both being canon but contradictory I don’t know how to phrase it

[lyric isle]

no but it’s boring……….I don’t like krill being simply corrupted. it ruins a lot of fun ideas on my end

[unreal shuttle]

I think with this and last abyss quest we can agree krills used to be mantas that where used to created power diamonds

[hushed steeple]

Krill are born naturally, then corrupted!

[white junco]

i think krill were those critters we see one of in the switch trailer

[frigid tinsel]

We don’t know what krill were before they were corrupted. We know mantas were involved in the power diamonds production process, but not what became of them

[hushed steeple]

In fact they are prolly just the mantatees. They sure been hyping up mantatees.

[lyric isle]

ya they are natural creatures but uh. ancestor meddling has made them this way

well I believe things like krill breeding existed

[frigid tinsel]

Imagine one of these little things turning in these big lads

[keen shore]

OH I SEE. Although you could technically be like “all krills look like that and the corruption process just changed them mentally” and then the Krill Shows would still be canon… I am still losing my mind over the whole “ancestors being snobs about krill breeds” bit and I can easily see why someone would want that as canon for the hilarity alone

[unreal shuttle]

But the spirit manta in the belly of the big krill

[hushed steeple]

Could be all the light creatures souls look like mantas. Like. The core is always a manta.

I just don’t want the leviathan to be a stupid manta

[unreal shuttle]

Light creatures are like pokemons

[keen shore]

Personally I believe they were groups of mantas beforehand (mostly headcanon based because there isn’t a ton of evidence in any direction) but all the ideas on what they could have been are super interesting to me
Edit: I believe the leviathan is something different, not sure what yet

[lyric isle]

not the krill shows I mean the idea of through the generations them being made bigger and stronger and more fearsome, certain traits being exaggerated

by breeders basically. I like the idea a lot somehow

[white junco]

the leviathan, king krill, Gerald, whatever you want to call it is a weird case. we don’t actually know what it is and how it formed. it’s more than just “big krill”

[hushed steeple]

I still think its a corrupted canth. But at this point, its kamconian fact!

[frigid tinsel]

Presumably swallowed. It’s the same once that gives the diving upgrade

[crystal cape]

My theory for next season is that we might get eden king's minions and we gotta fight it before it ruins the world of sky

[lyric isle]

oh no spirit OC idea

I don’t want to add to the million Krill Whisperer OCs so will go with something else for them but uh
time to take this further

[keen shore]

ancestor posing proudly next to their 70ft long krill who just won a show and has the blue winners bow on it

Krills being taken to dog bathers

[hushed steeple]

krills are overated anyway

[unreal shuttle]

Not swallowed cuz Gerald vomits some light creatures after you finish the quest

[frigid tinsel]

Someone trying to take their fancy well-bred krill through the wind paths and Flight crew shaking their head in horror

[keen shore]

I’m confused, would this not just prove his point further??

[white junco]

it’s like trying to bring your pet crocodile into a store

[unreal shuttle]

I like Gerald

[lime sierra]

He was my ex 😔
I'm sorry

[frigid tinsel]

Also vomits up the upgrade manta — I have a pic somewhere that shows it

[unreal shuttle]

Not cuz it was a manta spirit not just a bird or a manta you can see it was a gosht

[lyric isle]

I think of the words ‘krill breeder’ and half of me imagines some spirits looking after and raising and training krill for the war and the other half sees dog shows

I hate that it makes sense that that may have happened though. not all the breeders would have wanted to do that

oh no it’s canon

[hushed steeple]

I like these more. But the fact they didn’t get used means I can hyjack parts of their designs for my own

[unreal shuttle]

We need more answer about Gerald

[hushed steeple]

Answers? In sky? BAHAHAHAHAAAA!!

[sharp lichen]

TGC is too lazy to make the answers, so we make it for them

[unreal shuttle]

Yeah far enough

[hushed steeple]

WANFO

[lyric isle]

non-sequitur but

👻 <- they are travel buddies now and nobody can say anything against it

[frigid tinsel]

Upgrade/spirit manta swimming up after getting spat out by the leviathan

[unreal shuttle]

Well know my whole theory about Gerald has disappeared, thanks spirit manta, could you stay in Gerald’s belly

[mighty heath]

Lore Theory
Inhales Ok, so I’ve had this theory stuck in my mind for a few days now; not only is this theory geared towards the Elders of sky but in connection with the new season. Since this next season is leaning toward the style of Season of Prophecy, I’m going to assume not only are the Elders involved (somehow) but the prophecy spirits as well, including the quest giver. One night, Prophecy guide was meditating alone and a scary vision intrudes their mind. They snap out of the trance they were in and immediately run to the Elders. The elders look at the quest giver with confusion and brush off their vision as a nightmare. But little did the Elders know that their vision was real. Darkness was looming in the sky, and the balance between the realms and the entire sky kingdom was in disarray. As a result of the Elders’ shortcomings, the prophets and prophecy quest giver are all turned to stone along with everything else. Now it is up to the elders and the children of light to save Sky.

What do you guys think?

[sharp lichen]

Prophecy 2! I need this!

[lyric isle]

if there’s any coloured light or magic lore I will flip

[sharp lichen]

Maybe Prairie is under the influence of red light?

[novel marten]

#sky-memes message

[half glen]

What's new lore chat?

[sharp lichen]

@marble pulsar Short Answer for your question: The stars that aren’t part of the constellation are most likely decorative.

[lyric isle]

nod is invading with a gnome army

good. favourite spirit

[marble pulsar]

Kk, thanks

[novel marten]

Imagine logging in to Sky and see you’ve been GNOMED

[sharp lichen]

But the Season of Performance changes that a little bit. There, it says that stars are bursts of light that can turn into winged light, light creatures, or Skykids. So the extra stars you see in the constellation don’t have any gameplay purpose but are still important for the lore.

[novel marten]

Twinkle twinkle little star,
How I wonder what you are
Will you be a manta or moth?
Will you stay and dance aloft?

[strange siren]

So are the extra stars light creatures that come with us to orbit?

Gerry the manta watches over me forver

[lyric isle]

I'm entering another Nod phase. I can feel it.

[sharp lichen]

The first image lists all the powers of stars. They can illuminate the world, give light to other creatures, inspire others, or multiply. I think there’s an ending that’s not here that shows the star turning into light creatures.
@strange siren

[white junco]

yes, the light creatures storyline was added after that chart was made

[nimble ingot]

I have a thought.
What is the difference between an ancestor and a human?
The reason for asking this is based on a few clues that had me thinking. One, the concept art, be that it is a little dated and intended for Light Awaits, it is still valid to some extend in the current game, Sky: Children of the Light. And second, the concept art for Skykids implies they are hybrids of Ancestors and humans.

Skykids being part human would explain why they can get tired, able to eat (in theory) and can have a soul. While the soul could just mean that they are living creatures, since they are similar to humans, Skykids are theoretically part human.
Even if the game does not hold much water, there is another detail that may help solidify the Human aspect in the game. First and foremost, the environment does have evidence of living human beings once existed in the game. Though all the remains of the once living humans are now the spirits. Take note, spirits are still considered to be ancestors. I am writing this in hopes to explore how ancestors could be equal to humans.

So far in the game, there has been officially only one living human being. The Little Prince, even if the season is part of a collaboration, the existence of a living human child would mean that the Sky world could have had human beings. That and while the post season Little Prince may be an echo (as I like to call it), the spirit version of the Little Prince does solidify the link of a living human and a spirit.

Now Ancestors.
I would like to propose the thought that it could be possible for humans that have died, are still able to interact with the living. But not as spirits, but as ancestors.
What I am implying is the potential that the ancestors were stone statues that can still interact with the living, as Living Golems.
The only ingame evidence I have is at the end of their memories, we interact with a statue. I wonder if these statues could have been where the ancestors did not fall, but faded away.

[keen shore]

Nodding muralist is one of my favorite spirits (I am not biased because of them being a muralist I swear]

[nimble ingot]

This may also in turn be what prevents the spirits from passing on.
Since the statue acts as an anchor to the world, and binds the spirit.
The Skykids breaks the statue after reliving the memory, we are freeing the spirit from the statue and allowing them to pass on.

This may also explain what happened to the soldiers in the battlefield in Golden Wasteland.
These soldiers could have been moved off the battlefield, been buried, or even destroyed in the battle. Leaving no bodies, but potentially the spirits are still around or able to pass on their own.

[lyric isle]

partially biased because them as TS made me feel better at an extremely depressing time
best timing ever. hrngh
that has made me get attached

[keen shore]

We’ve mentioned before that not all of our Seasons are designed to do the same things. Some, like Season of the Little Prince, slant heavily towards direct narrative while others, like Season of Prophecy, are more about gameplay, with story being more ambient in the environment.
The next Season leans more in the direction of Season of Prophecy.

As much as I would Love prophecy 2, it probably just means that the upcoming season will have more of a gameplay focus than anything else, not that it’ll involve the same characters.

[keen shore]

I thought of a headcanon that they painted stars on the side of the ark so that them and their friends could see them even after they crashed, since Wasteland is so cloudy you can’t see the night sky. From that moment on I have gotten ever more attached and now I’m here

• they were already one of my favorites to begin with bc of the murals :-)

[lyric isle]

THAT'S SO CUTE,,,, THAT'S

anyone mean to Nod is not worth talking to. thank you to everyone who said "can you not" to those meanies

[keen shore]

OH YEAH ME TOO. I WOULD KILL FOR A DIRECT ANSWER ON WHAT RED LIGHT DOES AND ALL THE LIGHTS INFOUENCE IN THE KINGDOM AND SO MUCH.

THIS STUFF HAS BEEN BOTHERING ME SINCE ENCHANTMENT I NEED TO KNOW

You cannot introduce or tease magic in something and expect me to not want to know every single facet of it and how it influences the world building.

[lyric isle]

I feel like I'm gonna make something inspired by Enchantment at some point

[uncut pond]

Inb4 the devs say it's just a soft magic system

[white junco]

barely even a system there

[unborn gyro]

The balloon ghost leaving from the ||office|| just got me thinking that they left and might return when the new season start, since it’s confirmed (sort of) that the upcoming season will have some shady spooky vibe

[lyric isle]

yeah right lol
sobs into hands
imagine the character you miss coming back 🥴 👍

[unborn gyro]

Imagine

[keen shore]

I would be disappointed if this is true, especially considering the enchantment spirits were heavily implied to be studying the lights to some degree, implying there’s something to study in the first place,

but it would make sense with how sky in general so :(

[lyric isle]

please I want my lore season about the light sc h o l a rs

maybe we could make that a fan season for the time being

hello I would enjoy as a group project if anyone would contribute t

[white junco]

eh, it’s probably a hard magic system . The lights seem to have very clear purposes and powers, it’s not the type of world where you can just wave your hand and use darkstone or light to just do anything

[frigid tinsel]

yea, that's what I'm thinking – while magic in Sky seems highly variable, there's gotta be rules to it that dictate what it does

[nimble ingot]

Ancestor Golem theory part 2

What if the ancestors becoming golems to serve the Kingdom, as in their spirits are encased in stone to remain among the living and not pass on?

Again, relying on concept art for the backstory, what if when a human dies, their spirit undergoes a pilgrimage to Eden?
According to the Light Awaits timeline, the Dawn elder used to shephard spirits on their journeys, then retired, and now does the same for skykids on their journey. My thoughts are that the Eden Temple could have been the destination for ancestors to ascend, but at some point it became a place to encase the soul in stone and allow them to serve the kingdom.
If that would be the case, then the spirits were not able to ascend to Orbit, and according to the Megabird cycle concept art, the bird of Light is not able to send down new souls. This may in turn disrupt the balance between Light and Darkness, causing the Storm to occur.

What little evidence I have in the game is building off the previous theory that ancestors could become golems. The previously mentioned statues contain a blueish glow within them. This blue light is often associated with the ancestors, which can be seen in the spirits themselves, their buildings, some of their instruments, as well as in the diamond technology.
Originally, I thought that this connection was to link to the technology to the ancestors figuratively. Though if taken literally, then the power of the darkstone diamonds could have been soul power. Especially when compared to how skykids fly, they briefly emit a blue light. Now this may not imply that a skykid has a power diamond within them, but instead that they related to the ancestors, and that they have a soul.

Finally, as a last thought.
What if the King is in fact the Sky Prince, encased in stone?
A giant living golem with an elder soul powering it. Now that is a scary thought.

[pastel brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[nimble ingot]

Glad to see the spirit manta made it.

It is a shame that we dont see the manta in the season area. That, or the manta is somewhere, but the game did not show the skykid where.
Hope it is either happily swimming in the water, or perhaps on its way to Orbit.

[sudden sundial]

What do we think the new season is abt? It kind of looks like Eden is exploding into the other realms

[sacred mauve]

I hope the new season will include some sort of magic system

[frigid tinsel]

as if Sky doesn't already have a magic system. tbf it's been as vague as everything else in Sky

[sacred mauve]

I guess something like summoning butterflies for a few seconds by holding hands with a friend, and the more friends you have the longer the butterflies appear

[bronze ginkgo]

I thought it would be like a time travel back into when the kingdom wasn’t broken

That landscape looks like Isle and remember the trailer we got when it came out on switch??

Actually don’t listen to me because that’s daylight prairie

[keen shore]

Everyone’s initial assumption seems to be an Eden based season (not necessarily a seasonal area there, just a story generally based around it) but also we don’t want to get our hopes up so we’re waiting until it’s confirmed. A few of us are still holding out hope for an Isle season, but I’m pretty sure that even if this season isn’t in Isle the next one probably will be, so I don’t mind that as much.

The next Season leans more in the direction of Season of Prophecy. We’re introducing a brand new world element that we feel will inject a lot of life into the day-to-day Sky experience, and offer more meaningful opportunities for players to come together to support each other. This will be a permanent addition that will allow us to do some cool event-based storytelling.

We haven’t really been discussing this aspect of the announcement, what does everyone think it’ll be?? Since it mentions players coming together and event based storytelling it initially made me think of something like the Assembly quests, but on a smaller scale (like for daily events rather than full on quests)… I have no idea though, because that guess doesn’t seem correct at all.

[untold notch]

only one way to find out and that's waiting for it to release

[uncut pond]

I can already see as soon as the new season releases in beta everyone in lorechat will go see it and then we'll all be here not allowed to talk about it despite most having already seen it

[frigid tinsel]

<< avoids beta spoilers

[uncut pond]

I guess I'll have to avoid lorechat for a good while because I won't have the patience to wait until it comes to live

[frigid tinsel]

I'm honestly hopping with anticipation too, but I try to avoid beta spoilers so I don't think too far ahead or get my hopes up since 1) beta things tend to change before Live release and 2) I would rather explore myself rather than stare wistfully at what others are doing

[keen shore]

I usually have the patience BUT, I will definitely not have it for this. All the mystery and just confusion surrounding it makes me need to know what it is on even the most basic level

[frigid tinsel]

I will (ty to) persist in my ignorance

[tranquil harbor]

Yeah, for this specific thing, because TGC has said 'it won't even look like a season', I'm gonna need some spoilers to get a grasp of what that means like at all

[ember mica]

i had a dream a few weeks ago about flying into that main area of prairie from over the clouds and it being crawling with krill, and it was dark. maybe it was a premonition

[rugged jackal]

Wo

I had a dream a few weeks ago too, though only a part of it was Sky-orientated
I remember falling into a place that looked like Isle, but it was all broken up like an out of bounds spot would kind of be. I kept ascending the patches of land and then landing on a floating rock like in cave of prophecies with a lantern and bench while I looked out over the sky (it had the sky of starlight desert)…

Then it turned back to dream nonsense

[plush mantle]

I'm personally wanting to know how Eden and all the other realms came to look how they are now. Maybe we can get that this season or a later season

[plush mantle]

Also that sounds like a cool dream

[nimble ingot]

Dreaming about sky is a sure way to indicate one is either addicted, or obsessed with the game. Sky dreams tend to be hectic lol.

[white junco]

alternatively, you were playing sky right before going to sleep and your brain was still in sky mode

[plush mantle]

Yep, I can speak from experience

[tranquil harbor]

I want news on the sky animation

[lyric isle]

I feel like this is gonna have a Much larger influence in such a way that deviates from traditional seasons - hopefully on the basegame...finally

[frigid tinsel]

I've had one Sky dream that's stuck with me – was in a realm composed almost entirely of clouds with few but large floating islands. the daylight and colors of the clouds varied depending where in the realm you were. some cloud tunnels were full of krill. there was this one island that was hard to get to cos of said krill but once you got there, it was this Starlight Desert dreamlike chill spot. serene

[lyric isle]

I feel like it's going to have a very wide influence rather than be focused in a single area. Event-based storytelling...that has me excited

[rugged jackal]

I am excited

[white junco]

maybe the daily quests will actually have something to do with the season 👀

[raw crypt]

Ive had a few sky dreams, one was an endless hallway in vault lined with memory cubes with floating boats going through it, theres so many games i like and my own oc story that just
“big library” shout out to big library

[plush mantle]

Well this is the first season that's being held in Eden, right? I'm excited for what they have planned and I do hope that every realm will be affected and nor just Eden

[white junco]

woe, I can never remember my sky dreams but I'm sure I get them

[tranquil harbor]

I just really want a season (multiple seasons, all seasons tbh) to like, have us do seasonal things more than like 6 times total ever out of 2 freakin' months

[lyric isle]

maybe there Won't be a QG. would be interesting
maybe there will Only be a QG

I don't know why but I feel like this either won't have or will only have one

[frigid tinsel]

We don’t know. The Eden implications are strong, but we don’t know if the season will be set in Eden

[uncut pond]

That actually sounds very cool, wish Sky was more like that instead of being about as linear as a modern Sonic game (aside from the Season detours)

[raw crypt]

my best guess is its realm wide and that includes eden

if its tied to daily quests maybe jyst maybe,,, isle quests,,,,,,…

[plush mantle]

Very true, doesn’t mean we can't hope for it

[lyric isle]

I have no idea why I'm having such strong "this won't have a QG" feelings but I am

a season only focusing on spirits we already have rather than introducing any, if any at all. I want more on who we have already. come on basegame gangggg

[tranquil harbor]

I only ever visited Abyss to do quests after I explored for 5 minutes, seasonal spaces are underutilized. I only visit the village theater so much because I'm obsessed with Performance Guide

[fickle wing]

i had a sky dream once where this series of books got released that were like based on the elders n their backstories n their lives n stuff n they were so cool man the titles were stuff like daleth the shepard lamed the scholar samekh the champions etc and stuff and the covers started out w a ton of megabird motifs w daleth but as the books went on there were less megabird things n more. Darkstone and by the time u got to the resh one that was just called king it was all darkstone and GOD it makes me go feral wish it was real but then i got major whiplash in that dream cause right after i found the books i fought a homestuck troll in a horse themed mall

[white junco]

you do need a season guide for a season. They're the ones that introduce us to whatever is going on and manage quests. even if we don't get the same type of seasonal quests that we normally do, a questgiver can point you in the right direction. also I think they're neat :)

[solemn depot]

mood

[lyric isle]

maybe this season could bring back th - gets krilled

sorry I'll try to stop talking about them so much

[raw crypt]

yknow after performance giving me a jester i was like “ok idk what i want now” and then tgc dangles potential lore innfront of me and i just 💥💥💥

[tranquil harbor]

no, I never experienced off season quest giver and I want them

[lyric isle]

same, Slink. same

my clownish dreams have been satisfied. feeling quite miserable about the game rn and hoping this can be a pick-up on that end..........

[rugged jackal]

I’m a little bit worried about the implications of a seasonal area in Eden though, I hope the area itself won’t be set in Eden and only some of the quests— hecc, maybe all the quests. But I’m a little worried a seasonal area might hurt Eden’s vibe. It only, so far, is base-game other than the last TLP quest and I think it really adds to it.

[lyric isle]

me want LORE I want to feel the MAGIC I did during Prophecy again

[tranquil harbor]

I kinda want another quest like TLP where you have to die in eden. That was fun. It made good use of orbit

[white junco]

I highly doubt we're getting a seasonal area for this one. They said it'd look very different from the seasons we're used to

[lyric isle]

Eden quests have potential; I only didn't really like it because it was LP - a shame
genuinely sorry to anyone who does like LP. I like everything but the crossover elements of it

[raw crypt]

me too, it hit hard, i love going to eden but also i dont like recollecting wl, so i like having an excuse AHHGDDG

and yeah im imagining early season 1 thing per each realm which would be so cool too see done with a more up to date take

[tranquil harbor]

Objectively, TLP was a great season I think. I was a dumb baby moth and kept having my friends lead me to areas I didn't know existed, so I felt rushed to finish up my time with the prince, but like, objectively, TLP made use of the entire map in a very good way.

[plush mantle]

I'm imagining it takes place in a sort of shelter in Eden with the guide aggressively beckoning you to the season area as more rocks come or a Krill passes by as a intro to it the new season

[white junco]

tlp was a lovely season I just wish they put some actual music in the desert... quiet...

[tranquil harbor]

I really like content where spirits and elders treat the skids like skids and attempt to help/protect them so I'm on board

[lyric isle]

(also can I DM something as I feel a little worried about sharing a CS message in official aaaaa)

[tranquil harbor]

We had wind paths music thanks to a glitch but then they patched it

[frigid tinsel]

Maybe that’s the point of Starlight Desert — to be quiet, to be off-putting, to be meditative. Perhaps it ties into that area’s mechanisms

[raw crypt]

i love starlight desert, its big and spacious so its slow to traverse but really adds to the isolated vibe, its a melancholic beauty imo

but all the couples r in my SPOTS !!! git git 🧹

[tranquil harbor]

It makes sense to be meditative when it's connected to vault. Tbh, people keep theorizing it's some weird prison, but what if Starlight desert was like, the vault's back yard? Like, literally where the scholars would go to get fresh air

[raw crypt]

I imagined it to be a part of the wasteland desert (especially with wasteland being the adult/midlife crisis realm) but when the hole in vault opened up it spilt all over and now its vault-y, lamed ur purple light !!

[white junco]

yeah I don't think the Starlight Desert was supposed to be like this, things happen sometimes

[raw crypt]

vault is just weird like that </3

[tranquil harbor]

I wonder if Starlight Desert was actually a desert or if it's like wasteland and isle. Horrifically changed by whatever the heck went down

[ember mica]

tgc has said that there will never be an eden season because it makes it unfair to newer players who are unfamiliar with eden and not good at krill dodging etc

[keen shore]

one time I dreamed that I filled the shipwreck area in battlefield with lava by accident. Then in the dream I got arrested irl.

[solemn depot]

mood

[lyric isle]

🚔 THIS IS TGC POLICE

[frigid tinsel]

Where did you hear that?

[raw crypt]

oh? i mean that makes sense, it’d probably just be one quest or event in eden or smth

U PUT THE SHIPWRECK IN THE NETHER?

[white junco]

adding onto slink's fun thing here, there are bones in the starlight desert that look to be from the same type of creature as the ones found in the graveyard

[rugged jackal]

That’s a relief I think having a season in Eden would hurt it’s vibes

[keen shore]

No like. I can’t remember it that well, but I think I went there, and I got mad I couldn’t find a candle cake. Then I accidentally started spawning lava everywhere with my mind. It went downhill from there

[raw crypt]

IHDHDHDHHD

[tranquil harbor]

If TGC is so concerned about moths being able to krill dodge, why is that last krill before the eden safety tunnel a thing?

[ember mica]

saw it being talked about in beta chat, and i trust beta testers for the most part lol

[rugged jackal]

Because Eden

[lyric isle]

oh no starlight desert
you mention starlight desert you get my Theory

[frigid tinsel]

Hmm what I’ve heard of beta testers, my trust in them is a fickle thing

[keen shore]

I think that instead of protecting moths by not having an Eden season, we should just punt the moths straight into Eden from the get go and make them do it alone. For character development

[tranquil harbor]

Some of them may die, but this is a sacrifice we are willing to make

[keen shore]

Back in MY day we went through Eden ALONE as moths and we LIKED it

[solemn depot]

no!!! /nm

[lyric isle]

oops! all purple light!

[frigid tinsel]

Yea, I’ve been thinking of Starlight Desert as a part of the Wasteland that turned into a wasteland by the same sort of industrial processes that rendered the land sterile. By proximity to the Vault, it was transformed by leaking purple light. Purple light does seem to manifest things into exist, so the islands we see there could’ve been unintentionally created by the TLP spirits we see there wafting in the purple light as they wandered about, lost in their muses.

[white junco]

beta tester here, do not trust beta testers, there were tooth and nail fights in beta chat over things like the TLP iap hell and star collector's old name because some folks are hellbent on defending tgc no matter what

[rugged jackal]

What chaos have I been missing

[lyric isle]

my theory is pretty close to that
mine is "vault scholars messing with purple light to manifest their imaginations into physical form and unfortunately messing with willing subjects to incorporate Their imaginations into it but oops it basically flanderised them"

[keen shore]

nothing could have prepared me for the last few words of this message

[frigid tinsel]

Bootlickers and racists in the Sky community

[lyric isle]

retired tester here, can confirm

[tranquil harbor]

what was star collector's old name? They were a merchant right? (I think I heard that)

[solemn depot]

greedy merchant or something

[lyric isle]

didn't notice the issue with Star Collector's name at first but in hindsight Good Lord I'm glad it got changed in the end I hope that wasn't purposefully the way it was but I do hope whatever hypothetical racist dev if it was so has learnt from it,,

[white junco]

it was shrewd merchant. needed to be changed. at least that spirit had a name change

[frigid tinsel]

For context: that name has anitisemtic implications

[lyric isle]

am I the only one who has an issue with the name Gloating Narcissist

have researched NPD out of spite of this but also out of wanting to know for respect and understanding

[solemn depot]

i thought it was a bit "wrong" bit didnt say anything about it

[white junco]

you are not 😔 I don't know why tgc didn't listen on that one, lots of folks pointed out the issues with it

[sharp lichen]

What’s wrong with it specifically?

[lyric isle]

not really a fan of legit disorders being thrown around as loose descriptors
not a fan of their depiction that way either

I call them Gloat because of this

[white junco]

I call them Fruit

[rugged jackal]

Good to know

[lyric isle]

I also call them Mettaton EX but that's another story

[frigid tinsel]

Narcissist Personality Disorder is a highly stigmatized and mischaracterised mental disorder, like DID and Schizophrenia

[tranquil harbor]

They need to come back sooner rather than later. I need their pants

[lyric isle]

just........rubs me the wrong way
this game says to be inclusive but then it does That
yikes

I am So Glad I'm not alone

[keen shore]

that one has never sat right with me and it just kinda contributes towards my. not great feelings towards tlp as a whole?? sigh. the entire trend of using disorders as just vague personality descriptors is really off putting to me, it contributes further to both stigmatization and us not being taken seriously

[lyric isle]

well I kinda learnt about NPD in tandem because of a friend with BPD and I wanted to know more about their condition for the sake of avoiding misunderstanding of things that may happen. and then I wanted to know about the former specifically because of this whole thing

like. I'm autistic and I do wish people'd stop using it as an insult......

[lyric isle]

I want to give Gloat an alternate name for the sake of this...Gloating Performer?
if anyone asks I'll just say "I prefer to call him that bc I don't like disorders used this way"

nah there are too many Performers what else do I
Gloating Show-Off

[tranquil harbor]

Gloating Show-off works really well.

[lyric isle]

if anyone else wants to call him that you can if you want, I don't mind. if anyone asks why then clarify that it's not to make fun of him but rather the opposite

[keen shore]

oh god yeah. if we’re not being used as the butt of a joke we get turned into a full on insult. it really sucks

I know that this is less impactful compared to examples of this issue for other disorders, but it is so annoying having anxiety disorders and constantly having to specify that I’m not just slightly shy all the time because ppl will misinterpret me saying “I have social anxiety” as just me being afraid of talking to ppl sometimes and it just. Augh.

[lyric isle]

yeah Gloating Show-Off is gonna be what I say from now on
I know that's not his real title but it is to me now because yeah

[white junco]

Grandstanding Showman was my suggestion

[keen shore]

Going to weaponize the whole “up to interpretation” mindset by applying it to bad spirit names as well, No one can stop me

[lyric isle]

DO IT

[formal skiff]

did u get put in table jail for ur crimes

[solemn depot]

i thought of that one too!!

[keen shore]

I got put in the pipe 💔

[lyric isle]

I have had an issue with Gloat's name since LP in Beta but I didn't think it could be changed so I didn't really do anything about it

[white junco]

tlp beta was hell, bunch of folks and myself left feedback on their name, it wasn't like no one brought it up

[lyric isle]

ah phew so it wasn't just me after all let's fix it even though it's been ages since the season by calling them something else

[white junco]

a friend started calling them Fruit when the season dropped and we didn't have the spirit names yet and I've just been using that ever since

[graceful osprey]

lore discussion spoilers should be renamed to lore theories spoilers instead lol. but anyways, the new season looks like it can be full of lore and clearer interprerations, or purely more fun/enjoyable

[lyric isle]

re: this
I felt it was off but couldn't place why

just. aaaaargh. I have a grudge towards LP because it's very problematic and these names are one reason why,,

[keen shore]

???? I’m not really sure what the difference is

[lyric isle]

offtopic but I want to use one Spongebob scene as some kinda joke about me being formerly in Beta but idk what the joke would be
let me record the one I mean

[nimble ingot]

personally find the 'discussion' part relevant.
there may be tons of theories, but with the cycle of new and old users talking about the game, it is less of a place to take the lore seriously, and more of a place to learn and discuss the lore.

[keen shore]

yeah :( it’s honestly my least favorite season just because of stuff like this and the ableist theories that have been made about it, that plus learning about all the horrible issues with it in beta and live have just solidified those feelings further

[fickle wing]

the names for tlp
god

[lyric isle]

"What?! Get off of me! If I weren't retired, I'd...I'd......ROOOOOOOAAAAAAARRRRRRRR"

[obliterates feedback with my rage about this]

[fickle wing]

i love fruit/gloat but that name can Go

[white junco]

took a while for me to enjoy tlp because of how rancid the beta discussions got. I've only recently heard about some of the tlp theories and good god...
scooping up the tlp spirits, sorry tgc they're mine now

[keen shore]

It weirds me out so much because I can’t think of issues with any other spirit names off the top of my head?? Did they allow someone completely different to name the spirits this season? It caught me completely off guard when I first started playing the season + learning about the name issues because I hadn’t noticed anything like that in past seasons (although. I do have the worst memory alive so I may have just. missed it entirely)

[solemn depot]

I'm overcome with morbid curiosity

[lyric isle]

we are taking the LP gang to safety,, I have adopted them into fun headcanons to make me enjoy the season more

[fickle wing]

i remember a pal came up w boasting braggart as an alt name for them and man i like it so so so much better

[white junco]

yeah the other guys r normal. sneezing geographer, beckoning ruler, stretching lamplighter, and slouching soldier

[tranquil harbor]

And it's alliterative! Bonus points!

[keen shore]

RIGHT. Whenever people discuss theories about them the asylum theory that I hate so much always gets brought up and it makes me so uncomfortable. I avoid tlp discussions mostly because of that

[solemn depot]

oh

[fickle wing]

its even french perfect for the French boy season

[tranquil harbor]

I know they're 'trapped in their vices' but the idea that Vault just has a prison or whatever right next to it is just so odd to me.

[lyric isle]

I hate the asylum theory so so so much..........
I much prefer wacky tech about their personalities being quite literally drained from them in a twisted experiment they did volunteer for but alas

I am so happy that I'm not alone in feeling super weird about the season because of the many issues around it

[keen shore]

Auhh… the side character-inator…

My favorite is that they’re satirical representations of / parodies of the elders. It makes the most sense and it is heartbreaking if you think about it too long so basically perfect in my book

[lyric isle]

an alternate idea of mine is that LP gang are literally created from thought given sentience

[tranquil harbor]

I do like the elder parallel stuff

[keen shore]

Oh yeah I knew the other tlp spirits were Probably ok. I meant like spirits from past seasons and the base game as a whole, I’ve never noticed any issues with their names personally

[lyric isle]

I don't think it was TGC's fault in that case then
I personally blame the collab people

[white junco]

so many tlp theories come from a lack of compassion for those struggling with mental illnesses, and it really shows when you see people theorizing that the ancestors straight-up didn't know what mental illness was

[fickle wing]

i honestly have no clue what to decide on for the tlp spirits n their stuff ive just been going w something something they kinda just ended up stuck there or something instead of orbit ig

[lyric isle]

so much ableism around. I'm just. yeah.
so happy you guys get it

[tranquil harbor]

'Skids aren't capable of feeling emotions' comes to mind

[fickle wing]

ngl the ableism in sky is insane man

[lyric isle]

tearing up a bit at this conversation because I'm not alone but also upset that it is this way,,,,,,

[fickle wing]

like bro for a game thats supposed to b accepting n all that jazz some folks rlly just. Yikes
theres also this that i yoinked off a post on tumblr (op is riotparty ) and. Oh boy fun

[tranquil harbor]

How is sky not disability accessible?

[white junco]

still not over "the ancestors thought that mentally ill people were actually corrupted by darkness and locked them in the desert" -actual theory I saw someone try to suggest in here

[lyric isle]

yeah there are a lot of accessibility issues and I am mad about them too

h

[fickle wing]

slaps this down https://krillking.tumblr.com/post/681086062954790912

[lyric isle]

yeah that's why I'm reluctant to talk about the season in lore chat

[frigid tinsel]

Oh don’t get me started

[lyric isle]

this is why I love lore chat these days. the majority of people are open and accepting and not scared to talk about heavy stuff when the time is right and don't ignore it

it reminds me that there Is a part of the fandom that's like me

[fickle wing]

lore chat is honestly one of the few places in the server that don’t try and sweep this sorta thing n convo under a rug to ignore and go haha look funny krill joke! beans! moths! crab! or what ever

[lyric isle]

this is my favourite channel honestly
I want to find more spaces like this so I don't have to go to official for it

[white junco]

the one time I creeped out of this channel to go ask a question I immediately got hit with the worst kind of gender role nonsense. no thank you I will be staying here

[frigid tinsel]

I honestly can’t stand the rest of the server with how asinine they all are. Lorechat lads are genuine and respectful

[lyric isle]

i'm legit crying a bit
this place is what i wish the rest of the fandom was like. but i'm thankful that there is at least a portion like this

[white junco]

The one time I had fun outside this channel was when a bunch of queer people took over genchat and we all talked about neopronouns, it was nice for a few minutes. and then transphobes showed up so the mods stopped literally the entire conversation :|

[fickle wing]

lore chat is like a bunch of raccoons going rabid over the scraps of lore we get in a dumpster and r also pouring rainbow gay sauce or whatever tjat 1 person called it all over characters but man the dumpster is better than whatever’s going on outside it

[lyric isle]

i'm so happy that there is a little section of this mess of a community i can call home
i feel so left out a lot of the time but finally there are others like me

[tranquil harbor]

the roads are flooded and the raccoons are floating down past everything in the dumpster

[solemn depot]

i only ever check lorechat here.. Other then the occasional look at #sky-memes

[rigid mural]

Lore theories I can respect: not this

[frigid tinsel]

Wonder if the mood people bring here has to do with this

[lyric isle]

yeah I think it's a lot of us being ND and/or queer is why jefhgbfhrjfhrh
love it

[solemn depot]

I used to be all 3 but now I feel too scared to call myself a furry

[white junco]

sky hyperfixation got me living in this channel

[frigid tinsel]

Yes I’m including furries in this — they get hit with a lot of crap but a lot of them are genuinely nice people

[lyric isle]

i'm crying
there is a larger part of the fandom outside of tiny friend circles i actually feel safe and welcome in waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[rigid mural]

The few times I went to genchat I got hit by people trying to bypass censors and say ableist slurs 💔
One day they will start my corruption arc.

[keen shore]

I don’t want to derail this conversation so apologizes if this counts as it, something I don’t see talked about enough which caused me a LOT of issues for my first year and a half or so is how hard it is to play the game and get a bunch of stuff when you have horrendous social anxiety (like myself).

The heavy focus on community and needing to buy stuff with hearts and all is fine… until lighting a stranger’s candle and trying to talk to them sends me into an anxiety attack. The only sources I could get hearts from were spirits — I bought out almost all the base game hearts super fast, and even with those and waiting super long for TS, many of the base game cosmetics (chibi mask, firework staff, several capes) were just completely out of my reach. Especially with event stuff where it only comes once in a blue moon, and I just had to watch stuff I loved sit there because I’d never be able to afford it unless I just gave myself anxiety attacks and pushed through it.

But that’s not the main issue. What is is how much of a hassle the game is to play on a day to day basis without towing friends around. Multiple player doors. Spirits that are borderline impossible to relive on your own. I couldn’t complete the assembly quests for over a year because they required other people to do. And so on. All my ingame friends come from this chat, because it’s so anxiety inducing to meet a stranger and be expected to friend them in like an hour or less before they server split away and you lose them forever. And then after that you have to interact regularly with them and all… it’s too much.

That isn’t even mentioning how hard it is to play when you have are chronically ill and deal with fatigue all the time, making it so much harder to play every day and get all the candles you need, but that seems more like an issue with games following sky’s general model than Sky specifically.

[keen shore]

THANK YOU SO MCUH <3 I am so used to people making jokes at our expense and stuff that I get shocked when someone is actually nice to furries. I think there’s a lot of overlap with furries and queer/nd people as well (from what I have seen) which definitely adds to it

[lyric isle]

oki. to lighten the mood (not disacknowledge the discussion. pls only move on when you're ready), what are some LP theories and headcanons you have which Aren't bad and harmful

[rigid mural]

Gloat is gay.

[fickle wing]

lamp is gay

[solemn depot]

i have one.. But it's a little sad and more just has to do with my view of sky kids?

[uncut pond]

Furries have a lot of intersection with both queer and neurodivergent people so maybe that has something to do with it, who knows

[keen shore]

Every time I ask a fursona question for TS hints, at least one person will always reply to me with some kind of insult or disgusted remark, or they’ll react to my message with one. It’s really off putting

[tranquil harbor]

Assembly is the wooooooorst now. I don't have a lot of social anxiety in online spaces like sky, and it's still a chore and a half to get enough people to do the quests. Assembly was probably fine during the season but now it's hell

[rigid mural]

And then they kiss.

[lyric isle]

hi what fursona would Nod have

[solemn depot]

can i say a sad-ish one

[outer hare]

What is this chaos

[fickle wing]

ok man this just made me remember a real sappy n kinda cheesy hc thought tjing i had abt gloat and lamp so so tempted to share now

[keen shore]

Now imagine having an anxiety attack with each of those quests, even if you were successful and got strangers to do them with you, and now you know how I feel. The combination of having to find stuff in the rain and feeling like I was constantly messing up around others sent me into panic almost immediatley every time

[frigid tinsel]

I am very curious about Star Collextor’s boat. I don’t fully believe it is something they manifested out of purple light due to the damage and cargo

[white junco]

THIS YES sky's model of "encouraging player interaction" is so uninclusive of people who, for whatever reason, can't or don't want to interact

the larger community is awful about it too, the amount of times I've been told "sky is a social game" and therefore I owe people my time and energy, that I'm being rude for not wanting to light people's candles, that sky "just isn't for me" and I should go do something else if I don't want to interact with strangers. It's exhausting

[tranquil harbor]

I can definitely imagine I don't have anxiety in online spaces, but I get bad anxiety attacks irl

[white junco]

I can confirm assembly was hell even during the season

[rigid mural]

I got insulted in DMs for not friending a total stranger here, honest to god some people need to touch grass and respect boundaries.

[lyric isle]

DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THE PRESSURE TO MENTOR NEW PEOPLE
I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE AND I DON'T WANT TO SHAPE SOMEONE'S FIRST IMPRESSION AS WHAT IF I MESS UP

[solemn depot]

a sky kid that expects the prince to come back and visit at some point because they don't realize he's gone for real.. Sorry it's late internet issues ack

[hushed steeple]

Hi I'm new and just wondering, is there any concrete explanation on what the cave of prophecy is foretelling?

[raw crypt]

furries designs go hard actually and were so cool and swag
also nod gives me canine vibes but idk exactly what is in my brain

also sky needs a do not disturb mode or something to limit player interactions, im really bad at telling ppl i dont want to run especially ppl i only know on sky but i dont want to block either so i jusy.?!.?,!,?, dnd mode please

[tranquil harbor]

We believe what it was foretelling has already come to pass actually

[outer hare]

Thinking that they'll be reborn too-

[rigid mural]

STAR COLLECTOR BOAT MY BELOVED
The area is so so pretty, I love how we see a merchant boat (too bad the spirit has... history).

[keen shore]

OOO let me think. People are saying fox, which kind of fits, but I’m not completely on board… hmmm… I think an animal that’s smart, social, and has a big focus on art. It’s a strange leap but I am going to say elephant (or, at the very least it would be their favorite animal)

[nimble ingot]

To think that boat is more detailed than the live game Abyss ship is a real shame.
RIP beta abyss boat.

[white junco]

seconding this, do not disturb mode pleaseeee, I suck at telling people I'm not in a people mood and just end up candle running even tho I was literally just taking photos for something

[frigid tinsel]

Been wondering if Star Collector stumbled across the boat already ruined and claimed it as their own or if they crashed the boat and became Star Collector over time

[uncut pond]

Doesn't help that when you light strangers there's like, a 50/50 chance that the person you're lighting ends up being some sort of crazy conspiracy theorist who comes up with racist conspiracies (it happens more often than most could imagine)

[lyric isle]

I think part of why I'm having such terrible terrible grief over Ex-Questgiver's retirement/departure is because I feel like I'm being told it's wrong to be attached to spirits
like. I know they existed for mechanical reasons but,,,,,, I love them and I know they technically do still come back but
spirits make me feel welcomed especially when I don't want to interact with randoms. this feels like a stab, "you're playing the game wrong"

I'm getting better and better at coping with it

[frigid tinsel]

Yes, people can’t be social 100% of the time. Some people even like socializing, but need time alone to refresh. It’s not antithetical to respect other people’s boundaries and spoons

[solemn depot]

That's what I'm saying

[fickle wing]

dug this up n slapping this down and scampering off cause i get ridiculously shy sharing romance sorta hcs or whatever
gloat is fruit btw also dang this is. From a while ago oops

[white junco]

man I do not like lighting strangers, I have my own set of rules that I follow for it bc I need to be 100% sure that this person wanted me to be able to see them, and other people just. don't have that boundary. I've had people legitimately chase me because I tried to keep them from lighting me

[lyric isle]

I'm scared of being kissed at. I hate it so much

[frigid tinsel]

Or cissexist and transphobic. “Are you a boy or a girl?” Why is that such an important question that blokes ask that before even asking for a name? And the amount of people who blocked/avoided me when I say “neither” is tiring.

[white junco]

how do we have the exact same thoughts

[outer hare]

My favourite thing is the fact that when there's a quest to make a new acquaintance some people will light and run away and bow once-

[keen shore]

That is me. Sometimes I get too shy to bow

[lyric isle]

I'm gonna answer "a jester" whenever someone says that

[uncut pond]

OUCH
Honestly at this point I don't even have idea of how bad chatting is nowadays, I gave up on lighting strangers long ago

[rigid mural]

I identify as a threat. Start running.

[tranquil harbor]

I'd just answer stranger danger tbh.

[frigid tinsel]

Oh don’t get me started on the blokes who think this is a dating game? Where the heck did they get idea from?

[outer hare]

I would just not talk- I would leave-

[keen shore]

the one time I decided to step out of my comfort zone and talk to a stranger via bench they asked me to be their gf from the get go (did they think I was a girl because my skykid has long hair?? I will never know). which was definitely a failure on multiple counts because I am both aroace and definitely not a girl. because of these facts it is safe to say that I both don’t think I qualified for the job and wouldn’t have wanted to

[foggy lotus]

i always step away and spam honk but i dont think my friends arent getting the message

[tranquil harbor]

use refusal

[solemn depot]

I had a bad experience with a stranger once.. I think they were trolling but I'm not certain

[lyric isle]

would you guys be interested in me posting art of them in here?

thank you

[outer hare]

I don't talk in sky anymore, the benches are just for quests now-

[fickle wing]

i remember when i was hanging w my friend trying to see some moths in the area between isle n prairie someone appeared n was like i am looking for a husband for my friend

[raw crypt]

“are you a girl or boy” questions make me freeze
like man i wish i knew LMAO

[white junco]

it's like animal jam all over again

[rigid mural]

Had someone tell me I'm disgusting for being lgbt (told them to cope), TGC really should look harder at that.

[tranquil harbor]

I just don't get the dating game aspect idea. What about literally any part of sky seems like a dating game? What do they think the lonely feel of the isle and the krills are for?

[nimble ingot]

Spending candles on benches may as well be a scam to moths.
Prove me wrong.

[rigid mural]

Your reply is sending me 💀

[raw crypt]

candles being spent on friendship stuff sucks a bit in general imo but that may just be me GJDHDHDH

[fickle wing]

i heart citrus

[keen shore]

<- uses the assembly torch as a proxy candle to recharge strangers because touching my candle to them make me anxious for no reason. It’s like the sky version of eye contact to me

[tranquil harbor]

The tree is so expensive

[raw crypt]

i dont wanna spent 90 candles to duet dance 💥💥💥

[fickle wing]

why is a game abt friendship making friendship so expensive

[outer hare]

That's why I don't have any friends unlocked to piggyback-

[keen shore]

I think bearhug hermit has the right idea I want to also hide on top of a mountain away from sky’s players forever

[tranquil harbor]

Though, if you actually want to go that high in the tree, you're probably friendly enough to where some of that price is justified (still, 20 candles for dance and hand shake? I'm dead inside)

[frigid tinsel]

TGC needs to better emphasize their queer inclusion and chase off these bigots cos seriously the amount of nonbinary erasure among Sky players is astounding.
there's literally Days of Rainbow during June and you still get blokes being all ridiculous

[lyric isle]

I'm so happy this chat exists I'm so so so happy

[rigid mural]

Sooner or later that mountain becomes a couples afk spot, come with me and stand on the tip of buildings where people can't reach you.

[outer hare]

My skykids wallet was dead in 2021

[white junco]

i'm really close to being able to afford maskless and I've legit been sitting here wondering if that's really worth getting bothered by strangers

[white junco]

just to add onto this I was afk in prairie and they legit just approached me in the butterfly fields. why

[fickle wing]

the only couple that should b at that mountain r post and hermit

[raw crypt]

ive only unlocked duet dance with one person so far, i should unlock it with more tbh
but fr handshake should be free its such a basic expression, or at the bottom, somewhere there

god i love how maskless looks but all the everything surrounding it weirds me out, i love my maskless rhythm pants scrunkly of an oc but dressing as them makes me worried LMSHFNFHH

[outer hare]

I'm happy too 💜

[sacred mauve]

I just alway ask people for their pronouns when I first talk to them

[keen shore]

this. I’m just too tired after recent events to really explain it further, but god it’s depressing. So much of the fandom is so desperate to just hold on to their rigid ideas of how gender works and refuse to question them at all. It’s so alienating. Sometimes even people you think are good will put more energy into defending non-binary erasure instead of trying to understand why it’s bad. It’s a horrible struggle. It’s so hard to enter discussions about it without getting that deep, sad feeling. The amount of messed up and ignorant stuff I have heard from the fandom is hard to count

[tranquil harbor]

I feel like the emotes shouldn't be grouped by emote and level. Like, maybe handshake could be the first emote instead of high five, but instead of level 2 shake being immediately to the left, it be high five. Put levels in different parts of the tree

[lyric isle]

thank you guys for acknowledging how problematic the community is while being a safe group within it. it's not all bad because you people exist and there are many other nice respectable people too, but there is bad that needs talking about and that's what we're doing

[outer hare]

We are always here for stuff like this 💜

[lyric isle]

anyway ye this did get offtopic. what lore should we talk about sorry

[uncut pond]

It's alright. There's no lore anyways.

[rigid mural]

i dont fear a mod writing in there, im right

[tranquil harbor]

Welp, a mod showed up, looks like we were off topic a little too long

[frigid tinsel]

here's a mod to ruin things again

[solemn depot]

uh oh

[outer hare]

Oops-

[keen shore]

Honestly I consider diving into the fandoms problems still being on topic. especially with stuff like nb erasure because it does relate to lore.

[fickle wing]

among us spaghettios should b a thing

[lyric isle]

gendered spirit names bother me and I know it's just a consequence of the languages but hhh

[uncut pier]

What happened here

[livid crypt]

it's important to remember that bad experiences you hear are often amplified in social media spaces. I think there's more inclusion and acceptance in the community in my experience than the opposite. any community, including this one needs people like us to stand up, stay visible, and not let voices of ignorance make us feel small

[frigid tinsel]

pleasantly surprised I was proven wrong

[sharp lichen]

AGAIN WHO IS LIKE THIS

[raw crypt]

sky should collab with among us /j

[lyric isle]

that's very true (regarding what Alex said). there are def more people like us out there; it just doesn't feel that way sometimes

[tranquil harbor]

I still don't know how you got someone else when we added via qr

[rigid mural]

On the flipside I do like spirits being GNC, like Daydream Forester being he/him in my language :]

[solemn depot]

crewmate on head accessory

[lyric isle]

wait really
he/him fem-presenting.....amazing /very positive

[uncut pond]

I have said this before and I'll say this again, the localizations of Sky should use gender neutral language even if it's "constructed" and "not officially recognized as part of the language"

[frigid tinsel]

gendered languages not agreeing on what gender to translate spirit names proves TGC is doing well with the genderfunking

[keen shore]

I am going to be real, this channel and the people from it (and sometimes not even all of them) is probably the only place I have felt accepted as a person. I get not wanting us to generalize, but sometimes we need to express our frustrations

[fickle wing]

iirc in the past some devs have referred 2 prairie elder as he they and she and honestly? genderfluid queen

[sharp lichen]

Gendered language. The enemy (or friend?) of the spirits

[livid crypt]

you guys being aggro to me when I start typing because want to join a conversation makes me unhappy. I hope you'll let go of those judgments and allow me to speak in the future

[fickle wing]

gamer what

[covert carbon]

Where is the pin koid
Kond poi
POID hold on it’s koi ponf it’s

[lyric isle]

sorry for the misunderstanding (saying this in general even if I didn't contribute to it)

[keen shore]

I mean, considering your history with us, can you blame us for preparing for something bad to happen at first??

[tranquil harbor]

I was not aggro, and apologize if I seemed to have come off that way. Mods don't interact here much, so when they show up, I assume they are here to do mod work thingys

[rigid mural]

i feel it's less of a wanting to gender everything issue and more a "we dont have neutral prns that arent neos" issue, cos it's not the first time i see a masc she/her or a fem he/him spirit at all

[outer hare]

I'm sorry hope you enjoy talking to us more frequently sometime soon

[lyric isle]

ye the second sentence is what I mean is all. not intending to assume anything bad, just about that sentence

[tranquil harbor]

tbh I've been trying to give the mods the benefit of the doubt more

[frigid tinsel]

given your history, the lot of here us do dislike you. and while I look forward to you shaping up to prove otherwise, we are still hesitant. if you're seeking forgiveness, know that it'll take time and won't come by demand.

[lyric isle]

............where do I post a meme that doesn't make sense out of context
here isn't really the appropriate place but nor is the meme channel because it needs context and I'd rather it not be seen on a wider scale without context
I mentioned the idea here. it is within the context of something mentioned in this channel

[tranquil harbor]

If it's within the context of this channel and recent, tbh I don't see the problem with stuff like pictures or memes

[uncut pond]

Wait until the topic related comes up again

[fickle wing]

me when i start posting bears and a mod shows up anyways can’t wait for salmon slamming saturday

[lyric isle]

but uh. it's on the joke of me referring to myself as a "retired tester" and uh. the depressing things I've seen and what I've done to try to combat it

[rigid mural]

To be fair, you're also the one that argued with us that the "bear" term was a gateway to suggestive topics, so people are still wary of you when the topic of being lgbt comes up and you're typing.

[keen shore]

yeah, it is a little weird to be disappointed when we dread your arrival, considering there were both obvious reasons that you’d step in with a negative judgement in this context (us being off topic, maybe being generalizing in a negative way towards the community) and a precedent that would make us expect this sort of behavior (like the infamous bear conversation). of course we’re not going to be super happy about it, we have learned to dread seeing you type

[tranquil harbor]

Alexdolly came to be nice, so let's try not to gang up on them

[lyric isle]

only not engaging with this because I’m a bit scared of potentially making things worse so uhh

[rigid mural]

i only stated i wasnt afraid of mods and i was confident i wasnt in trouble tbh

[lyric isle]

here’s the thing I was referring to

...is anyone there

[nimble ingot]

Glad to see that a bullet has been dodged.

[rigid mural]

i resumed my movie

[livid crypt]

another important fact when talking about TGC's responsibility to inclusiveness: in a global game, they do have to be careful in some respects. In parts of the world where law still enshrines bigotry, the game can still be an ambassador to people who otherwise might not have the benefit of seeing the free expression of people's identities. In order to avoid, for example, an outright ban in countries that may take a hard line, or persecution of individuals within the community, I think part of the balance TGC has to weigh is how open and direct can they be in order to protect all its players

[lyric isle]

context: I'm a retired Beta tester
was Big on feedback during then

[rigid mural]

I mean yeah, but also, telling me I'm digusting because I'm not cishet really shouldn't happen without me being able to block and report them.

[tranquil harbor]

You couldn't? The block and report buttons still work even without friending someone tho?

[lyric isle]

TGC isn't really the topic here; it's problematic players

[uncut pond]

They need to be lighted

[frigid tinsel]

you can report other players?

[livid crypt]

that absolutely shouldn't happy to anyone. I hate that it does. and that's a problem all of society is still dealing with, not just Sky

[nimble ingot]

To be universal is not the same as being generalised.
There is not such thing as a 'perfect' game, let alone a perfect artwork, or a perfect image that every country around the world would accept.

What is a fact is there is a world with a vast amount of different cultures.
Some cultures are very open and accommodating to different values. While others are very stringent.

TGC has a good thing on with a family friendly game.

[tranquil harbor]

Oh right, benches don't automatically do that. I'm used to my table doing it for me if all the seats fill.

@frigid tinsel yeah, the buttons seem grey'd out but they're usable

[uncut pond]

TGC should add a feature to report chat messages instead of just players

[rigid mural]

Yeah on that end I'm not really expecting you to have any power since you're not a dev, was commiserating with the others here.

[lyric isle]

I find it sad that it's in Sky though.....I know that no big community is exempt from issues but it's sad that even a game like this isn't

[rigid mural]

I can be thankful to Sky for boosting my confidence to put bigots back in their place at least, thank you Valley Races for making me realise that people don't really think.

me: "i bet that person is making fun of me because i was so far behind, auuuugh"
person i was racing against, when the race is over:
me: 😳

[white junco]

ME

[frigid tinsel]

Sky players sans the bigots tend to be really sweet

[rigid mural]

Sky is so good when you dont unlock chat (or mostly talk in emojis bc your friend does not have a language in common with you). We're just honking little beasts.

[lyric isle]

to ignore several strange subcultures and genuinely nasty people, the community is actually very lovely with the right people

[raw crypt]

racing brings out an evil in me actually

[white junco]

i rarely ever do the valley races they are not really my vibe but man