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I think that was a glitched manta but I can’t remember for sure??
tgc stop leaving your assets lying around out of bounds challenge
boop
Bro that ain't fair they drop hints like that then "oops sorry if we take out that random statue the game will crash don't pay attention to that"
OH THAT BEAST, yeah its just a glitched manta
wait what's wrong with it
Dude where did you find it!
Lighting error is my best guess and sometimes itd fold in on itself
Its just above chimesmiths island!
oh I thought it was just funky oob lighting lmao
also why r so many mantas just. folding in on themselves r they ok
Idea, skids are called descendants because they descended from orbit
tgc ur mantas!
Like in the light quest they did become a bit darker!
It would make more sense than saying skids come from the ancestors
oh my god someone help this creature
this happens with the trapped mantas in the boneyard too </3
TGC fix your mantas challenge
casually approach beast
what the.#.. creature.s..,,
We’re not gonna talk about the fact you have a friend named “Creachur”
: WHAT IN THE NAME OF THE ELDER BIRD ARE YOU DOING-
: Hehe funni flyeeng fiire go brrrr
who doesn't?
btw that manta showed up after the fourth Flight quest released and lorechat was panicking about angels of death and corruption in progress and it turned out to be nothing but man did lorechat panic.
Also my friend made this meme
Sephiroth-looking bugger
Skeen (Sky Teen)
“Ugh Dad (Candlemaker) go awaaaaaaaaaay I’m busyyyyyyyyyyyy”
they're going through some character development
Sky teens are just maskless Rhythm pants skids who shall not be named.
I’ve finished my Vault run and I’m curious what y’all think about how we can see things that aren’t there/are invisible through cosmic mantas
Yooo thats so cool 
oh my god I need to go to vault immediately
That’s like being able to see the bottom of the ocean through glass in Minecraft
is the official Skeen emoji /hj
cosmic mantas are so pretty... they look like they're painted
I thought everyone knew about the cosmic manta looking glass thing 
Imagine a blind ancestor has a cosmic mantra support animal to help them kinda like glasses
that’d be so cute. Could be the tiny mantas that fly with bus manta
That is possibly a render bug. A similar, though lesser, effect happens with calls too.
I'd like to think it's canon.
Also I totally don't use deepcalls like a bat using echolocation.
I do too
Skykid looking through manta membrane: "I can see, EVERYTHING."
Pitch me some season ideas, y'all, and I'll make icon ideas.
ok ok I got this brand new idea. never before seen. you're gonna love it. bird.
OH MY GOD
SKEMO
|| SKY EMO ||
Season of Transparency. Based in Isle, a small group of artists who work with glass. Glassblowing, stained glass, light artist studio, glass beads jeweler. QG has a giant paintbrush as a permanent flying trail kind of prop 
Okay I got 2 ideas
That sounds like it has the potential to be a lore season. Gonna be transparent about lore as pristine as this glass for a telescope you make for a quest
and we can finally stop arguing about chill sunbather
random but what’s the flag in your icon? ‘tis very pretty
Isle of Dawn pride flag
isle of dawn pride flag :) I made it a week or 2 ago. i’ve been thinking about making it an actual queer pride flag bc I really like the colors
I genuinely confess that I have a spirit xenogender because spirits are very gender and I wanted to steal theirs because I can legit kinda see myself in what they give off. They have the gender I want and now I have it
slightly embarrassing confession but
spiritluxiem poggers 
Honestly there are at LEAST three spirits I want to steal the gender of, plus almost every outfit my skid wears. No judgement here.
Season of Transparency icon progress
I want whatever the honk Perf’guide has bc omg they’re beautiful
hell yeah! steal any gender that isn't nailed down 
And the ones that are
@white junco I found a competitor 
it’s genuinely a label I have. requested someone to give a name and flag to it so uh
‘tis a thing now
I mean I believe gender can be absolutely anything as long as it isn’t harming anyone but it does feel embarrassing to say that this funny flying game has influenced how I describe myself but there’s nothing inherently wrong with it anyway
Gender is a confusing thingy and all I know about mine is I’m not a boy or a girl, not sure if I even have a gender but idrc lol. I know as much info as I need to know and idc beyond that

and that’s okay!
grabs a nail remover Those are going out too 
no gender is safe
Can we see the flag 
THERES A SUCH THING AS A NAIL REMOVER 
confession that I’ve kinda wanted to coin genders for the Enchantment lights of all things
this feels so silly but it’s entirely harmless so what am I scared of
Honestly fair. I am agender and every time I look at a spirit I’m like yeahhhhhs…,,, that’s me >:3
I beg your pardon
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I read it as nails on hands remover
today is the day we drop amazon links in lorechat
I cast ray of transgender on my favorite spirits. sometimes even by accident
those are also a thing 
ok let’s take this mention as an opportunity
thinking about the uh. trade and stuff
waving bellmaker’s cutscene, the existence of postman and the first flight quest and
how did this trade work and what methods were there
Ikr, I did that with a Sky kid oc even though Sky kids don’t even have genders
so they can’t be canonically trans but fae does give those transmasc vibes…
I have no arguments against this I love it so mcuh. I almost want to make a pride flag but it would just be the 🏳️🌈 let’s be real
travelling merchants and i think there's to many opinions to not change the current conversation. 
if you see me joking about a character being cis and then a week later tearing up at trans thoughts about them no you didn't
if you think abt it, not having canon gender makes it so they can have any gender you want, be it agender, trans, no binary, fae, cis, or anything
enchantment light icon colours go brrrrrrrrrrr
these characters are trans. these characters have no AGAB. these characters have no gender. hope that makes sense thank you for coming to my ted talk
Ye true, but they also- nvm Spade beat me to it 
Here’s what I think: trade was used by on-foot (but rarely), flying boats, or creature-pulled. The items traded were usually butterfly pots in the early part of Sky and darkstone in the later part, although other items were also transported. However, it is quite difficult to traverse the realms normally, so the Wind Paths was made, which was a shipping hub used to transport items throughout all the realms.
I will admit the argument of “spirits don’t have confirmed genders so you can make them cos” does make me uncomfortable, because they are confirmed agender, and that fact already gets erased so much within the fanbase. That being said, there are lots of ways being agender can present, especially in terms of pronouns and gender presentation, so go wild
I meant with the kids
YES COSGENDER. TRIGONOMETRY FLOWS THROUGH SKY 
i am going to hit pointing candlemaker with the transgender beam. he's avoided it for far too long
Wait… if they have no AGAB. And they have no gender. Are they cis agender by some convoluted logic???
I think we have to make a difference between being Agender and Not Having a Gender
everyday is a good day if you see more than 2 people typing in lorechat 
Singender, tangender, cosgender.

wait isn't agender not having a gender. no gender. i'm confused
SinGender, CosGender, TanGender, SinosGender, CosasGender, TanosGender....
yes
but no
Those are synonyms. That’s what being agender is.
those are literally synonyms
abs(-sqrt(3))gender
Arcsingender, arccosgender, arctangender! Let’s see some love for those inverse functions!
random fact that if you asked my main skykid if they were a boy or a girl it’d answer “a jester”
I wouldn’t agree with this I believe a differentiation can be made
Agender exists bc we live in a society with gender
No gender exists on a society with no gender
I tried to make a paintbrush tip.
I like it! 💕 May I add it to my concept doc?
the word "gender" wouldn't even a word in a society without gender but we as people in a society with gender can point at said society without gender and say that they are all agender because they are all agender.
you're arguing wonky word play here
I so got distracted from this post, but my idea is that the floating boats we see around the realms were used to transport and trade stuff (there’s a forest mural with this). I imagine valleu as where all the big fancy markets are, where you can go to buy stuff from anywhere in the realms
Sure! (I was about to ask you to ask yourself permission.
)
yes I AM arguing semantics
you're arguing semantics over words that are literally synonyms, there's no need to argue about it
Thank you!
I mess around with the season in my free time occasionally so actually having pictures is fun haha
I don’t really get the distinction or why it’s needed either. If a society was all female (like some animals) we wouldn’t need a separate word to describe their gender just because it’s homogenous within their society, we still just call them female. Same thing here
I used a pink glow because it's not a color you typically find in nature, flowers or otherwise, and it gets me in an artsy mood.
Any other Season ideas y'all want me to make icons for? 🪣 🎨 🖼️ 🖌️
Season of flowers please
Ive had an idea but if you could help me out on the icon 
I have a season angst idea
season of hope, a season based in eden (accessible through vault/starlight desert) where the spirits are dying and you have to restore hope to them
the end is bittersweet, the last cutscene is where they die happily knowing it's not the end
if we ever get a big finale season I desperately want to see daleth in action. let the ferryman complete his duty. let us return the spirits to the stars permanently
themes of sacrifice can be brought in - maybe one of the quests is sacrificing a winged light to them so that they can feel genuine warmth instead of the constant cold?
opposite process but same energy as grounding them all
ok but
should Momentarily return to work to sign the game off if there were to be a big final season. the qg to end all qgs
is the mascot of spirits. would be a cool thing though this is just completely nonsensical thought
this isn't me yearning this is something that I think would make sense
Thats actually really cool 👀 💜 now i need to see that
Did i say something wrong 

something something "with their dreams fulfilled they come to encourage the skykids on their final duties"
h. i doubt i'll be playing by then but that'd be a cool sign-off
I would cry acrually I think
We need a season dedicated to explaining
. I ALREADY MADE A CONCEPT. HAVE THIS HAPPEN.
I want spirit fren back
me consuming all the skyshop art
@formal skiff they visit when merch dw
Why? What did i do? why are you doing the eyes? Did i say something wrong
? WHAT DID I DO? I GENUINELY DONT UNDERSTAND?
ok but here's the thing. Here's the idea. lots of headcanons ahead.
my idea for why the spirit memories stay in the realms is that we're returning bits of the ancestors souls back to orbit, piece by piece, but we never seem to completely restore them in the Light. We basically need to be able to approach the diamond. you work with the new season spirits to calm the raging darkness so you can approach the diamond. maybe the quests r related to gathering items from the elders to do this. daleth breaks the diamond and then boom. spirits r permanently ascended. Their memories? gone
but memories are their imprints on the world, not the spirits themselves. In their place we see new memories: our memories, from when we first relived the spirits. we inherit the world in every aspect, including this one.
Now this wouldn't actually happen for a long long list of reasons but I like to think about it sometimes
Yess they are boat spirit too? Nice.
Still want them back to give us quests because
they’re so much more charismatic than that statue
i'd say don't count on it
doing that for my sanity
i'm sorry, i don't want it to be this way either but don't count on anything
I do NOT wanna spoil the
🌺 Season of Flowers icon.
But be prepared to be impressed.
give them time. they're doing what they've wanted to their whole life rn
Could you please ping me because im going to be logged off for the next hour or so ^^ Thanks :D!
I was doing it as an "I'm lurking hello Alex" as you tend to open book react to me all the time 
absolutely loving every word of this
@lyric isle I FINALLY FOUND THE PICTURE here have fren with my oc Finch
Oh- Ill make sure to understand next time- this time it just looked like you were trying to criticise me 
SHOOT VOL THAT REMINDS ME, IF AND WHEN I SEE THE DOOD IN BETA ILL MAKE SURE TO SCREENSHOT SPAM FOR YOU 
(Old QG I mean ^°^)
only reason I'm completely okay with this (in-universe that is) now is seeing some new skyshop art today that made me super happy and reassured
I saw it is really cute <3
I realised yesterday that I received an email about my krill shirt progress and seeing the little QG there made me smile a bit :D
anyway can we change topic as I ended up directing it to this for the thousandth time
Ye, it’s very sweet and I hope they love traveling the world in their little boat

Yk what would be awesome but not gonna happen, if we saw them boating around in water around the kingdom sometimes. Or if they were in some OOB in their boat. I’d love that sm.
All i want. Is a hug from them ^^
that's what fanart is for
Season of Flowers
Show???
wait are twitter links allowed here
if anyone wants it dmed say so
Oh guys for anyone who didn't know, there is a huge wind border in PNR so like.. there is a boundary that MAY potentially be expanded to get closer to the diamond in the future but as of rn there is a barrier - unsure if any lore or anything can be thought around this but just something to think about ^^
I don't see why they wouldn't be!
AHHHH- its so cool 👀 ✨ can i steal
?
I do but it’s not an appropriate conversation.
pls react if you want it as I feel like it'd derail everything
Yes, I literally made it for you. 
Thank you T^T
💜
OMG PARALLEL FLOWER GARDEN REAL!?!?!?1/1/!?!!one!!?1!1/1?1?!/
snatched gently
Anyone have a Season idea they need an icon for?
(Only 1 submission can be done at a time, so please be patient if I choose someone else!)
good afternoon lore chat 
If you just want to draw more I have another concept. Pastry/candy making themed season in Prairie. Or you can ignore this! 
Let’s let other people ask first, I’ll do yours if nobody steps up. 
And I’ll let everyone know when submissions are closed and I’m busy. 
I have a whole idea, but the gist is that’s it’s called Season of Resurgence and it’s Megabird-themed.
Topic that I have been wandering about for a while. How common do you guys think minor elemental light powers were in ancestors?
Confirmed:
- Every enchantment crew member except the guide
- Sanctuary guide (cyan)
Personally Speculated:
- laidback pioneer (maybe Lightseekers in general, personally I see them as having more general light powers)
- flight guide
I’ve always thought that you could just use the elements if you had the light?
OMG WAIT
If Flyguide gets confirmed to have elemental light powers, and we learn if Perf’guide does, then that gets us one step closer to figuring out the ultimate question- who is Perf’guide’s twin?
Not super common but not uncommon either? Like 1 in 20 or something like that I’d think
My perception on this is that you have to absorb them to understand how to/be able to use them. It leads to a whole convoluted headcanon/theory about enchantment and possibly the elders as well, and I could use the enchantment quests for it as well,
ok but questgivers could be potentially using orange/purple light if the whole candle giving out is canon
The idea is that long ago, the shopkeeper (
) traveled to a distant land beyond Home called the Aviary. It is similar to the LA Aviary, with some minor adjustments. When you arrive there, the Shopkeeper puts on a new style, with a wand resembling Daleth’s Elder wand and a headpiece. There are 5 portals, which open up as the season goes along. In it, you find Faux Realms, which are smaller past versions of the current realms. There, you can relive the spirits trapped there, and let them ascend. Finally, the Shopkeeper themself ascend, as the Aviary turns into an area filled with candles and benches.
Oooh I remember this and you’re right,… I wonder if purple light is infused into the statue or something and that’s why every guide after a certain point had to use it, but the ones before could make the candles easily
The shop-boat guy/old neutral questgiver gets lore relevance??
Sign me up!! 
silly idea to go along with the world travel thing
maybe references to the various implied regions? where the different season groups from abroad came from
they provide stuff from these different places because these are places they've been visiting and give us moRE CONTEXT TO THE
I WANNA KNOW ABOUT THESE PLACES
did I alreadu post my enchantment/sanctuary quest theory here or do I need to. I know vol has heard it but I can’t remember if here has too
i mean the merch waves make a lot of sense for this travel narrative
is probably currently either now in or just was where the enchantment crew came from judging by that and hhhhh giv us the lore tgc
I think you have also heard my theory on where they are from (isle) so I will not post it as a big long thing again
tell
i mean i have a very silly headcanonverse that involves stuff such as how managing quests works but that's entirely within headcanon and imaginary concepts
Season of the Other World
Oooo :o
(Psst I left an idea involving old QG in DMS
)
okay I will try to summarize
I mentioned it above loosely with the whole needing to absorb elemental lights to use them. I believe that the enchantment crew and sanctuary guide did this, first either to survive or just because they were studying them, and the second to help with the bells.
I also believe that the inner light of those who absorbed it would be influenced by the colored light they absorbed, and that they would imprint on each other, meaning that the colored lights we find for enchantment have fragments of the spirits’ souls in them and that they are necessary to gather in order to ascend them. This also holds true for sanctuary, since we have to gather fragments of the cyan light to help the guide regain their memories and ascend.
Basically, the enchantment quests revolve around us gathering the lights of each spirit and bringing them back to enchantment guide in order to “complete” their ascension and being the two parts together. The sanctuary quests do the same thing on a more fragmented level
Here’s what it looks like with the hues reversed.
Explain please
The icon or the idea of the season?
The idea of the season
Idea for a future season with a play on season; season of starseekers
It's a space themed season linked off of Starlight desert:)
Maybe the season could uncover some lore of winged light and Eden potentially? 👀
Sky x Fortnite. Goodbye:
- dies *
The first thing that my mind went to was lightseekers remake except they love saying “far out” 
ok the last season of the year will be a collab but mischief will happen during then and hopefully that'll be super enchantmenty so if I hate the collab with every fibre of my being at least it'll have a great distraction and lore food
I have a deep hope and desire for days of mischief To be like days of bloom but with enchantment
I love the idea of light elements being absorbed by ancestors !! 
I could see perhaps belonging guide having orange light, for the food, chimney at forest and also a cozy place when day of feast was here 
imagining me potentially being on break for it but then resurfacing for mischief
If Fortnite ever dares get anywhere near Sky, and Sky lets it happen, I want my money and time and love back 
My idea is basically, doorways pop up near a place of notice in every realm.
(Per example: The Candlemaker’s Cave, the Sanctuary, the Campfire, the VIP seats at the end of Valley, the pipes by the end of the first area in Wasteland, and the end of Vault.)
These lead to a parallel world version of that loading zone. (e.g. you’d not be able to leave the area without leaving the parallel world). What these worlds would entail, I don’t know. But I have ideas.
OH THAT IS SUCH A SWEET IDEA. orange light seems to be very healing and community based given context of Sky so :-) fits belog
mildly salty that I doubt we'll get any other coloured light props but at least it makes sense for us to Only have orange as skykids so it's not bad
FN x Sky won't happen, it would introduce weapons to the game and we'd get some messy cross over skins-
Like I wouldn't Wana see some Jonesy moffs running around 😭
throws orange light quote at the chat again
"They offer warmth in times of cold."
Would the dark dragons become light dragons
I'm heavily anti-collab-season but one is confirmed so I think if I despise it I can just not come on then
except for Mischief
One is confirmed?
I have a suspicion that it’s not collab with another piece of media but collab with other players. A bit like more extreme assmenly
Guys who's excited for the "Days of...." Events for the remainder of the year? Like I hope we get some cool items for mischief and the likes of feasts as well- maybe we'll get some cool pants or hats or new capes and stuff? 👀
"Though it’s almost show time for Season of Performance, we're still hard at work on what’s coming next this year. As you may have heard in our Developer Update at the end of last year, we’re building towards a special collaboration for players. Be sure to join us at the end of the year as we present this collaboration in the final Season of 2022 in celebration of the Sky community.
These are still in development, so names and other details are still subject to change before they’re released to the game, but we can’t wait to share these with Sky players once they’re ready!"
I’ll be fine with whatever “Days of” so long as I can get the summer umbrella 
as long as we have no more Sanctuary events I'll be fine
there are too many
EXTREME ASSEMBLY complete with LASER TAG
OH WHOOPS-
What if the new season is the mini games we’ve all been begging for~
it was March's idea for laser tag I'm sorry we shouldn't have suggested it to them heLP
ok it doesn't say it's a crossover collab so it could be. tolerable
LP was too weird of an era
Like the entire quote with “celebration of the sky community” and “collaboration” and a pic of Eden underneath reallu made me think,
Parallel Isle could be a more lore heavy area and would require solving the puzzle/problem in all other areas before opening.
Parallel Sanctuary could make the water purple and behave like the goop in Wasteland (but you can swim in it if you wanted to…) and you have to activate some things around the archipelagos to finish the mission.
Parallel Forest could be like Fire Trial, but without the dying from darkness. You again have to activate a few things around the area but these also double as your only light replenisher. And yes, there are Shadows.
Parallel Finish Line could be the second to last quest in which you have to think fast, dodge a chained krill attempting to krill you, and defeat it by getting it to attack a wall with a big rock on it a few times. (Don’t ask who supplies the rocks.)
I’ll do Parallel Wasteland and Final Point (Vault) later.
I was nervous going into SOTLP but damn they sure did pick a piece of media that cleanly meshes with sky's themes and also breaks my heart
SOTLP is the best thing to come out of Sky. If you’re in wooly manta, you know that 10% of the members are just Prince alts. I LOVE 
can I join wooly manta?
this scrunkly
But in all seriousness, we know extremely little about him. Some say he caused the Eden Storm, some say he was involved with Prophecy, but nobody knows.
Will ask
Anyone “in” wooly manta?
What is that,
And can I join
It’s a separate server designed for more casual/unrestricted Sky lore. Stuff like the synonym for Kind-of-sexual-identity Financial System (if you know you know) I will ask.
Anyone can 'join' the wooly manta movement
Credit to @night pecan
forgetting Cannoneer with their cackle emote
. granted, not sure if they really do have fire/orange light power or if it's just a gimmick with the emote
Wooly manta !! I love this creature
Can see cannoneer trying to be like they know how to use powerful light, but they don't really 
Or this is how they could use their weapon (i forgot the name of it) , maybe 
OH THATS TRUE HOW COILD J FORGET
the orange light. might explain personality a bit but
I imagine they can't control it completely but pretend they can
this is why they use a stone boat. tried to use wood at some point and it ended in disaster
just fic thing
wax turning blue when near water has made me Think
is wax technically tiny coloured light? can they be converted to one another under certain properties
I WAS THINKING SOMETHING SINIMAR hmmm maybe,,,,,,…,, that would mean we are almost entirely orange light
Wax is the community term. In game, they are referred to as “pieces of light.” So it’s just light, not actual wax
I think that too ! Light and natural element together !
I have no idea what everyone think of places, like wind path or sanctuary, but i can see many of them having strong elemental power naturally or even light creature
Just that ancestor use light to have these powers ( this is how i see it )
Wax collected from candles: orange
Wax collected underwater: blue
Wax collected following the sunset turtle: green
Wax collected from prairie social area: yellow
Wax collected from forest, wasteland and vault social areas: orange
Wax collected from valley social area: white
Wax collected from the fortune fireworks in february 2022: yellow, orange/red, purple, blue or green
Wax collected from the bloom tree in march 2022: purple
oooooooo thank you….,,, I wonder if the bloom tree got purple lighted into reality
I would assume green light might be a sanctuary general thing or is somehow connected to their moss
We do get that orb of green light from the mantas in bird’s nest.
Isn’t green light connected to the element of Earth?
yep! seems to be about growth/plants mostly but could involve animals
Also there is grass before earth trial, if i remember correctly
There's grass on the final altar of earth trial too !
Spider child really made good use of it then huh
Also the scarecrow farmer was the one that need the green light , to grow vegetables or wheat
Maybe the turtle was having moss and maybe plant that could grow on the back, sadly there is darkness pollution and end up with dark plant growing 
Green light could be connects to flora & fauna as a whole
wonder If prairie making butterflies and green light r linked
I think that Green Light symbolizes, from most to least important: earth, nature, plants, fertility, animals.
It could be linked ! Flight guide was prairi elder apprentice and now, looking at wind path, it is floating island with many birds and mantas, also green area and flowers, like sanctuary or bird nest ,,, weirdly no butterflies 
Parallel Wasteland - Maybe some kind of parkour course with clouds that you can stand on and sandstorms/dustdevils that throw you around to prevent you from activating some kind of marker.
Parallel Vault - Mostly minigames, like memorizing things, throwing/placing harmless crabs to make constellations, timed lantern lighting in the Vault (share your high score!).
Idc about the butterflies as long as they’re not ORANGE.
Here’s all of the Parallel world icons (had to improvise for a few of them)! (Original versions for comparison.)
Also I have an idea for what Parallel Isle would contain but SPOILERS FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN’T EXIST (End of Season)
|| You have to fight a giant, monstrous version of the Otherworldly Guide, using either cannons that shoot you/friends/crabs/rocks at the foe, or by using the markers that I proposed earlier. It would attack you with krills/crabs/rocks that disappear and if they hit you, you lose 1
Winglight. Defeating it gives you a L O T of wax/Seasonal wax, and if you do it all by yourself without getting hit, you get some Ascended Wax too. Not a lot, maybe just like, 1 or 3/4 worth. The monster itself would be called the Parallel Otherworldly Guide (or, with my abbreviation system, Parallel Otherguide). ||
If you read it, what do you think?
Oooh which one do you guys like better? This one or the first one?
Ohh those r both really pretty, I think I like the second one more?
Yea that’s understandable, I like the 2nd one more because it looks more like rocks, and the gloves are more defined.
(Side note, I’ve been screwing around with the image.)
For the parallel idea ||Haha i like it ! Fighting a giant monster ? I'm in !
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||throwing your friends at the boss sound funny
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Also the second version is indeed nice !
Maybe if we make a petition and ask people in the server we can get it to happen. 
MY EYES 
Edit: I was gonna post the Parallel version but uh
No I will spare the world
Omg the rain in Parallel Forest can be pink like this!
Can someone help me fill in the blanks?
The red light symbolizes ???
The cyan light symbolizes ???(my guess wind)
The green light symbolizes flora/fauna/earth
The blue light symbolizes water
The purple light symbolizes ????
The orange light symbolizes ??? (My guess fire)
The yellow light symbolizes ???
The white light symbolizes ??? (My guess is all light bc science and also ||the orbit is colored white|| )
Do you mean symbolizes or powers? I can help you with the second but I’m not really sure wjat you mean wirh sumbolism
I’d wager the blue symbolizes water and the yellow symbolizes earth.
If it’s powers, then
Red - deletes/obscures things from material plane, similar to how darkness does. Things can be returned to material plane at will. heavily related to darkness
Orange - fire, like you guessed
Yellow - seems to be a “blank” color. Possibly general light, or how light looks before given a specific elemental color
Green - earth, specifically control over plants and possibly creatures — not the ground
Cyan - air
Blue - water
Purple - manifestation of things into reality, basically opposite of red
White ?
All of the above?
Probablh, I’m just struggling to figure out how that would work in terms of power
I was thinking that the lights were sort of like elemental powers to the spirits bc they seem to have specific functions in the arc. Red light brought back the murals. Blue purified water. Green brought grass, and cyan brought wind currents, etc
Yep! That seems to be the general consensus :3 the elders have one each as well
I’m making a grid.
Huh, the devs were addicted to the red/blue tones for a bit there, weren’t they?
They do?
yep! this propehcy mural shows 4/6, vault is purple and isle is red :3c
Huh, I never noticed Performance's icon had a brown-ish aura (or it looks brown to me at least), all the ones we have seen so far seem to be exclusively red, green, blue and colors in-between almost as if those colors meant something... Or maybe not idk
I think there was someone here that theorized that the colors of season icons signified their place in the timeline, does anyone remember that?
assembly really is the only true green
I think the brownish color is supposed to be red.
As for why all the colors are red, blue, green, or purple, it’s most likely to distinguish against the yellow/gold of the emblems.
I’ve always thought the colors of season icons represented some part of the season. Like they’re the main color and stuff
Yeah that's probably it
but I want there to be m o r e
mhm! like the abyss one has turquoise, like the little darkstones(?) the spirits wear
HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU WANT
Maybe the further along the rainbow the glow is, the later in the timeline it is?
Starting with Performance, being a red so red it’s brown.
IDK I JUST WANT THOSE COLORS TO REALLY MEAN SOMETHING 
well that's an idea!!
wait no that wouldn't work- performance clearly takes place after the kaboom, but dreams takes place while the colisseum was presumably filled with an audience, ergo probably before the kaboom
is it possible to see these with a white background so we can see the color better?
Or maybe the performance spirits lived well before the kaboom
didn't Ash say they picked the color around the pendants to reflect the season, no other deeper lore reason behind them?
oh did they say that? 

By this theory:
Performance, Belonging, Gratitude, Assembly, Abyss, Sanctuary, Flight, Prophecy + Lightseekers, Rhythm, Little Prince, Enchantment.
Don’t the seasons take place during the present?
yeah, asked because it was bothering me. it’s just color palette
Oh god, Enchantment being last is actually really dark, considering what it is.
Yes, however, their inciting incident happened at different times.
Technically yes but we don't know when were those spirits alive
Also there's Abyss and Dreams which imply there might be something else going on with some seasons
Idk but abyss and dreams taking place in the present just feels... Weird?
The seasonal events with the spirits take place in the present. The time period the ancestors lived and died in likely differ
Y’know what, honk you.
*parallels your season graph*
Dreams and Abyss still feel off... Or maybe it's just my brain being weird, idk
Changing the hue of an image actually reveals a lot about its color detail.
So does saturating it.
I can double down on this with the new image.
Let’s see how it looks against a dark BG!
Hello @tough coralWelcome to iconchat, filled with icons such as
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(Lets hope this sends) i made a fun lil slideshow thingy of some sky creatures, written from the POV of a spirit i sorta made up on the spot and got unreasonably attached to. pause the video to read the stuff. It moves fast. There is a lot of words
lore chat i am almost back to being active again i promise
my big exam is tomorrow and then im home free
Yo this is really good 
Amazing work
Thank you!!! I'm really proud of the vulture i made for this- I felt like vultures would fit really well with the Sky lore, but I didn't think they should be a darkness creature, yknow? Vultures are respectable animals. I wouldn't cast them off to the Evil Zone just for eating dead things and looking spooky.
Sometimes I look at Sky concept art and I just think to myself, were they trying to make a souls game?
||Take this with a grain of salt||
A souls game with furries. We were this close to greatness.
vultures are amazing animals. they deal with carcasses that would otherwise allow diseases to fester and spread. they're perfectly adapted to their niche in the ecosystem. They're beautiful, fascinating birds that do so much for the world around them. They live in countless environments, from searing deserts to frozen mountains. And, with Sky's themes of death and rebirth, vultures would absolutely be holy, respected animals. Sacred, even- I could imagine them being considered messengers and servants of Megabird themself!
YEAH!!!! You might know this but isle elder used to be a vulture in early concepts which cements it even more!!! fursona
This is so true and fits in so well! Vultures have a bad reputation overall but are great birds!🖤
I actually based the Deathkeeper vulture off the Andean Condor specifically- which, if i recall, is one of the largest birds in the world
That’s very cool and a great bird to base them of off!
Would you mind explaining this a little?
I think it’s the color inverse of the season logos!
IM LATE BUT THIS IS SO GOOD IM DYING
I think red symbolizes the destructive side of flame - red light burning red-hot(glowing) carvings into stone, the flame within the krills being put to use only for destruction, the sky of eden being red a symbol of flame going terribly wrong and destroying everything, even the red crystals in eden being destructive towards beings of light
oooo
Do skykids produce the flame?
Orange light, the kind that the candles and the player give off, symbolize warmth. This is backed up by the game's description, that "they offer warmth in times of cold."
interesting
reminder to drink water n take your meds!
also hi lore chat 

Also haven't had the chance to say this, but I love the woolly manta drawings 
sameee
WOOOOO- WOOLY MANTA
✨
WHOSE EGGS ARE THESE??? Mantas are too small to lay eggs this big, and birds??? nah. ARE THESE MEGABIRD EGGS??! lorechat do we know anythibg about them??
i have no idea about these eggs but remember that random theory-ish that salem said about the upturned triangles being able to float-
wait wh.
Im pretty sure it was just one message that got overturned by another conversation going on- but i remember it
.
Where can i see WOLLY MANTA ????
DO YOU WANT SPAM IN YOUR DM'S I HAVE A COLLECTION-
YESSSSS PLEASE, SPAM ME WITH WOLLY MANTA WISDOM
The triangle motif is only ever used on spirit-made things - clothing and buildings. Ergo, I think these are just rocks carved into eggs, but for what reason?
to trap mantas into the temple perhaps
by using fake eggs- ( at least perhaps?)
yeah but mantas don't lay eggs that we know of, so IDK if it works
but perhaps all the manta eggs got turned into dust by the explosion, there isn't evidence for or against them having a use
I think reika (a dev ) once told us they are here just as literal eastereggs
But I think you are free to have your own theory/headcanon about them 
bobbit-
Hey lore chat! I've been gone a while, any theories about the last two seasons i missed?
Yes.
Abyss is a darkstone refinery that eventually got flooded, and the Leviathan was contained.
Performance says that either we or the Prince are the Chosen One mentioned in Prophecy.
Hold up
Performance says what??? 👀
I thought I could escape, but the Royal has me in their trap.
🤌 ✨
On the second quest of performance, you tell a story of branching paths. You either tell of a “Star” (which is likely to be a part of the Light that guides you
) or a “child” which has been debated over to decide whether it’s us or the Prince.
... Hold up what quest you guys on
Like which number
Cuz I'm on the Chinese server
The second quest;2. I have absolutely no idea what the Chinese server is doing: it’s almost like they have a completely different lore.
My opinion is the Prince because it says he found a cave maybe referring to the cave of prophecies in wich the Prince got all the trials done
Don’t stop believing!
No, our gameplay is exactly the same, we're just about to weeks behind you guys and the devs release maps and stuff
But Skykids also complete the trials… it could be us as well.
Okay but I raise you: that one theory that we ARE the Royal, shattered.
That’s quite a popular theory! And it has a lot of evidence, even if I don’t personally agree with it
Oh? I'd love to know why 👀 /gen
It has a lot of evidence: The symbol for the King appears everywhere, including our constellations. Also, the King is absolutely nowhere to be found in the game. Maybe that’s because we’re actually reincarnated versions of him
?
Oh
Oh yeah I meant why you don't agree with it lol
ohh that one
I’ve always thought the King/Royal was completely destroyed by the Storm or absorbed into the Storm. I personally doubt that a being so connected to the Eden Storm could escape it.
interesting
On a different note, is it just me or are there no (farmable) candles in the village theatre? Why is that?
maybe they just dont put candles in certain areas
Also anyone happen to know what the flippy darkstone thing is? The one under the reaction levers
Hmm
I guess, it just seemed weird that a theatre, which you would pay for, has no money in the area
you mean the one youre standing on or...
The stick above the stage, supported by the two pillars
I think that’s just structural support
oh- its probs just to support the levers
Maybe the flipping lights are like a metronome ?
Something to mark the time so the stagehands can coordinate
I think ur right
You are def right I counted and one row pass is two counts of eight
it is a metronome at 3/4 beat i believe… could be wrong about the timing though
helps with playing music
Here's my theory on the Season of Abyss, in case y'all need lore seeds
It has to do with my Season idea. I'll find the message for you.
It starts here, read your heart out!
Hi lore chat, any cool theories you wanna share?
Maybe the reason we don’t see vaults realm (if there is one)
Is because it’s extremely lore packed with murals and spirits and WL but our sky kid doesn’t want to share that knowledge with us so they just BLIP look at that we’re in the elder temple how’d that happen
Also those blinking lights above the stage in the performance area do tick like a metronome so I think that’s what it is. Especially with the bigger lights that usually mark the starting beat
Or is it the end beat
I haven’t used a metronome for a while
Hi-Hi.
Someone know where i could understand better all the spirits. I wanna know best Clacking Cannoneer for example.
Very little actual lore exists for the spirits. Lots of headcanons happen in here, but you might find the intro cards in #news helpful
Hello!
Anyone have any theory’s about what the world of Sky was like before the Dark Storm?
I mean even the game tells you a bit.
I mean like we’re there civilizations and things like that.
Sorry if this question doesn’t make sense. I’m kinda a moth.
Yes. Sky itself is a large kingdom and subsequently a civilization. Eden seems to originally have been the capital, if you will, with the rest of the realms fanning out as other areas/possibly provinces under each of the elders. Especially as you get deeper into the realms, the evidence of civilization is irrefutable. Co-dependent bell towers, darkstone mines and doors, the blatantly civilized urbanization of Valley as a whole, Wasteland with its many buildings and technology, and Vault is definitely not something that would randomly occur in nature. Even Orbit seems slightly civilized with the giant stone circle and sparkle bridges. All of the areas are collectively referred to as the Kingdom of Sky 
Ok thanks!
There is missing Clacking Cannoneer intro card.
Every questions is fine to ask !! 
And if you didn't know, TGC posted a teaser about an animation project there are working on, and it look like it is about before the storm ! If it can help https://youtu.be/KevTXLvpmVI
Oh yes ! Some cards was just show on twitter
No problem!
It can be a little confusing at first, but it’ll make more sense the deeper you look!
It also tells you in the beginning of the game in the Isle Cave
I misread cannoneer’s as “joined their first expedition on a date” and ngl I wouldn’t put it past them XD
They would definitely do that 
On a date ! I can see that
“Hey babe wanna go on an incredibly dangerous expedition with me?”
“Sounds romantic let’s gooooo”
(ignore my bad attempt at imitating flirting lol idk how it works)
||it’s gonna be thin slices of dark rock I shouldn’t eat like crackers. Maybe a little Crystal rain for the cheese||
Crystal rain cheese 
Extra crunchy
Like those leaves ya step on in fall
Now I need you to explain how we make crystal rain cheese lol
Trial and error
Starts with discovering if it’s possible to hold. Since skids only seem to lose winged light when getting hit hard enough to knock them down, simply picking it up or catching it should suffice
If it doesn’t all they’d need is some gloves or a bucket to put it in
Then we just take it and either slice it if it falls apart as easy as we see in eden OR we use the ye’ old method of making sharp objects by hitting the rock until a thin piece falls off
And boom. Forbidden cracker and cheese
Maybe there’s a way to soften the rock to the right consistency
Someone get a geologist over here
Is there lava in sky
forbidden nachos
I haven’t seen any lava but there probably is somewhere
I bet the sanctuary islands have it
That's a metronome
Actually if lava was a thing I bet sky kid would be able to touch it
They probably could if they’re completely fire resistant but I imagine they couldn’t linger too long
Eden salsa
Not allowed to have Eden salsa unless we get a fiesta season 🌶
eden salsa?! 
Me, presenting eden salsa to the wasteland elder:
: who keeps letting you back in
I'd like to think that Wasteland Elder would be grateful 
: so hard to find good help. Captain!
: yessir!
: who’s on duty?
: Sneaky, sir!
: is literally just admiring their reflection in their sunglasses as they try different ways to wear their hat
Best idea ever:
Sprit swap with the realms
I want to see chill sunbather face a dragon because I just know the dragon wouldn’t win
let’s put a valley spirit in vault and a vault spirit in forest
A typical forest spirit in the wind paths for whatever reason
Butterfly charmer in isle
||Isle sprit in eden||
Now that's something I wanna see!
(Either as a conversation or as a comic)
Noted 
Thrillseeker live-streaming in Wasteland 
Question is
Do some of the spirits stay in their respective realms
Do the spirits from one realm all go together to another
Or is it a wild mix in each
Also Valley spirit in Vault: What do you mean I have to study!?
Vault spirit in Forest: How can you think straight in this freezing rain I- 
Assembly scouts are alarmingly not moved at all and just watch the chaos unfold and tell other sprites they’re actually from prairie
Vault spirit meets scolding student
: Is that child really…handling light in an unsafe manner?
: It be like that sometimes 
Meditate gets sent to Valley and immediately becomes a sensation because they can float anywhere
Scaredy cadet watching them float over the river, not needing to walk in the icky water: 
WHY DID I READ THAT A FOREST
The doctor was right about my glasses
Or with the competitive chaos of Valley they lose focus and go down with a thwunp
It's all right, but that's still a very real thing that would happen
Meditate learns how to ride a manta and discovers the joy of flying around instead of floating in place
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the scholar finds out the meaning of Bumbling Boatswain's expression
Admiring actor standing in the middle of wasteland very confused as to how they got there: 🧍
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.
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Frightened Refugee chilling in Prairie where there’s nothing to fall on them 
Pleaful parent teaching moths in prairie that it is totally safe to walk in front of those big creatures in wasteland. Don’t worry about it’s fine
They would think the krill are spotlights and blow kisses like nothing's happening
And the krill actually settle in for the show
Narcissist might do something similar
Little prince spirits having a breakdown at suddenly being stolen from their daily routine of pain and suffering
Lamplighter in Prairie: kisses ground I'm so happy that I don't have to worry about lighting here! 
Love how they would probably be in the most peaceful place in Sanctuary and all of them are just having breakdowns like there is nothing
Cannoneer accidentally sets Hidden Forest on fire but Candlemaker suspects it wasn’t an accident
Abyss spirits would have a ball with all those diamonds 
Hide and seek pioneer having the time of their life in wasteland as the krill actually play along
(They’re not but they keep moving out of the way in time so as long as someone stops them eventually they’ll be fine—)
Oh, they would be an expert at Wasteland
Someone you can count on to guide you through
Lamplighter on one of the little islands in the archipelago: WOAH IS THIS WHAT WATER LOOKS LIKE HERE??? IT'S SO MUCH!!!!!
Lamplighter is somehow in every realm and no one questions it
They’ve discovered the world and now want to explore everything as fast as possible
Makes the most friends on their adventure
Monarch makes Eden their home 
(Because king?
)
Truth, like if you don't hold their hand for any longer than 0.0000001 seconds you could be in Isle of Dawn and they would already be in Valley exploring the Performance area
Dream spirits are horrified where ever they land because there’s no ice and want to go home
They want that speed that they don't want with their capes
Boatswain discovered the cozy hideaway in prairie and won’t leave. Cannoneer keeps getting kicked out because ‘no fish allowed’
chat
can more people provide opinions on what abyss was? I'm interested
Enchantment crew is very concerned about the amount of spells now left unprotected on their ship.
I have a very odd idea of abyss if you want to hear it—
My ideas sorta go in circles in some areas cause I’ve never actually talked about it-
Please, I'd love to hear it. Abyss is the most enigmatic area thus far imo
Ack this is gonna take a while to put into words so give me a bit-
When you need to find an abyss mural and realize you can just go over there-
daily orb delivery
Alright I’ve been typing forever but I’ve given up because jeez I hate my writing.-
I’ll come back when i can form theories into words that make sense
Thank you orb bringer 
thank you
i'm going to ponder it
Their city now !
That platform thing we took the BIG diamond from has symbols on it like those from that vault area
Unfortunately, we cannot read
There’s so many diamond symbols on doors, platforms, the ground, pillars, etc.
do we ever see those anywhere else?
I'm trying to see if I can get a screenshot of them in the actual game, because the only clear shot rn is from Nastymold's beta vid
We need Season of Literacy smh
I took many screenshots of the stuff down there just now I can post later
they might be the same, so I'll go with the beta version
anyone know the sky language runes?
We can’t read them, no. Alani is trying to decipher them but hasn’t yet.
I could help? 
But I'm also up to my neck in studying 
I swear someone did do an alphabet thing for Sky
As usual, I want to know the alphabet of Sky
I will write the alphabet of sky with my aggressive need to search every corner of the world for every weird thing to look at
I will find all the words
It doesn't resemble Hebrew
What if we translate and it’s just
“Sike. There is no lore”
It might just spell out "CONTAIN" or "DIAMOND" or "SKYLORE"
“Big dragon”
Yes we know that’s a big dragon we just freed it—
They look like the patterns on bells ! Like the ones in prairie.
Trueee
They share a language, and knowing unknown/undecipherable languages they use placeholder text
Do you guys want my bad screenshots I brightened of the symbols-
It's like the vs XGaster FNF mod where the XGaster was just random text, Skydevs wouldn't just do that to us... right?
screenshot here
also @regal forge sure!
an 11-letter word, 7-letter word and an undiscernible one in the 3rd screenshot
The 7 could be DIAMOND or CONTAIN
so what is the 11?
How are you certain those are single words?
It could be some really short 2-3 letter words but "an an an a" doesn't even indicate diamond
Most common letter in ANY alphabet is E guys!
If we compare all the symbols everywhere and find any that show up more often it’s probably E! It gives us a start
Thought: the Sky language may not correlate 1-to-1 with English
either that or it's various instances of keyboard spam from oreo stepping on the keyboard
There’s 300+ languages in irl world
Ah, the google translate challenge. Let’s put it through 300 languages
What is lorechat doing?
I found it, this may be the stand-in for E
How did you just do that so fast—
Double check with other areas that have the writing
Like bells, chimes, vault, etc.
i will do a very big Tally later because I have too much time and no self control
What if it’s in French guys—
_E_______E_
_E _____
How do you know that’s an E?
It's the most common letter and we have nothing else to go off of
It could be Romanised Japanese put into SGA for all we know
If it doesn’t have a way to translate to English and is instead closer to another language more difficult to translate over
We will get to that conclusion when we get there through the scientific method
I am unable to access sky - all I can do is provide computational power from my little corner
It’s the most common letter in English.
It could transliterate into another language that uses Latin letters. It may not transliterate into another irl language at all.
Sure, while we're at it let's throw in Dothraki for fun. English seems likely considering that TGC is based in America.
And in many others that can translate over nicely :3
It’s good to have a starting place. If we fail from there we try again with a new language that has others based off the same source.
Maybe all the symbols are words and not even letters
If it's akin to a pictographic there is no hope
What you’re doing is akin to finding out the gravity of the Sky world: impossible without taking stuff from the real world.
In concept art, there was an alphabet (that got deciphered on tumblr) and the original language was english, so it makes sense to use it !
But that’s concept art that isn’t present in the base game at all.
it's so different to the one in-game that it is unusable sadly
I mean yeah but it gives some grounds to the idea the devs may translate stuff from english and don't actually Tolkien their way into creating an entire language 
Concept art shows us how the devs worked after all.
no further transmissions were received
then that means our existence is a lie
But what a wondrous lie
it could be placeholder text, skydevs wouldn't pull an OldRoot on us
Hello lore chat what’s happening 
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
thanks sky bot I was really wondering
I am not going to even attempt to translate the Sky language because
- I have no idea how it works and even if it’s similar to English (as stated here), it could use an entirely different language(s) as inspiration
- I have no idea how to decipher fictional languages to begin with. It is not my level of expertise and it would be a lot of pain and confusion
- theres very few instances of it in game. This makes translating a lot harder since we don’t have anything to compare it to, and means that even if we ARE successful, we’d barely get anything out of it
- We have no clue if it actually is a coherent language and translates to something, or if it’s just random symbols meant to make the environment more immersive feeling
I would only participate in it if we got confirmation first that not only is the language translatable but it’s within our level of knowledge to do so, otherwise I don’t see a point
I am inclined to believe that they may be placeholders that mean nothing lore-wise
Yeah I think it’s mostly just there to make it sound like their own language but I don’t think it has anything to do with lore
But Elder's names are Hebrew letters, so counter argument there? 
Those are concept, not current names :-) the closest they have to canon names atm is times of day
Counter-counter argument: maybe they are meant to be names in that context, kinda like a kid named Amber can be from somewhere that doesn't use english often.
I means like
There's no way to tell those inscriptions are English because Hebrew names have also been considered
Worst case it's gibberish and Skykids are illiterate
Guys I actually noticed something about Sky's lore. I've always wondered why it was always rainy in Forest, and I think I know why now. In the cave of Prophecies there's this painting showing every elders with Elemental powers. Prairie's elder seemed to use this power to cover the land with grass and flowers, while Valley Twins used the air power to levitate buildings into the air. I don't get it but the Desert's Elder used the Trial of Fire's power into some towers? And the Forest mama made the rain drop into the forest. Once again I don't understand why, but does it mean Elders actually created each trials or they just successfully completed them?
This might be just because I just woke up.
But are you talking about the murals leading into the cave or the murals in the cave once you’ve completed the trials?
Yes!
I’m sorry, that doesn’t fully answer my question. So your speaking about both murals?/gen
Oh sorry, I mean yes the murals painting after we completed every single trials at the end!
That shows mainly of thing King completing the trials and by some sort of connection, us completing the trials. The stuff that spawns in after we complete the trials I’m not sure why it happens
It clearly shows Elders using the exact same power, so basically they also completed the trials just like Eden or even us
I’m sorry I’m not a season of prophecy expert but I do believe they were conversations about this before
Probably yes, I'm not often on this channel
Yep! It’s hard to tell if they got the powers from the trials, created the trials, or what. [theyre jsut… not mentioned/shown in relation to them?? it’s really weird, so you have to guess at that part]. the thing dusk elder is putting orange light into are the towers with star heads you see around wasteland. in concept art they were turrets that would shoot fiery beams at you that you’d have to avoid, similar to krill. this mural implies that that is still their purpose but they are no longer functional
May I ask for the symbols to compare to?
One theory that I is that beating the trials give you the Enchantment light associated with each trial. So, completing the water trial would give you blue light, which can be given to other people.
My theory: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
But the TLDR is that the Prophecy dudes gave their elemental lights to the Elders. Forest Elder did it to create rain (possibly for defense), and then passed it on to the Enchantment Crew.
Oh something I noticed that may be irrelevant is that after I did the dreams season quests (mid-mothhood) my skid started doing more acrobatic stuff when flying
It could be a coincidence?
Maybe but it was cool
My skid has done some acrobatics when she jumps before but I dunno how to trigger it
Something I noticed today. From Crab Fields, the tallest tower had a ring around the star. From walking into the next area right out of Crab Fields, the star has no ring. I recognize the symbol of the star itself, but I don’t recall seeing a ring around it anywhere else?
I think it's an artefact of an old design that TGC could not change for technical reasons, or because they wanted to keep it - probably not a lore reason imo
Why is it never a lore reason… 
the thing with Sky is that if you notice weird models like this there’s like. a 90% chance that it’s what corn said just Bc of how many assets are stored Oob
go into the prairie villages and then look back at the butterfly fields. looks like an older version there too
Ngl I thought of different names for groups of skids in various kinds of actions and realms, like a flock, mischief, and even a tumble of skids
a mischief of chibis
I think I may have accidentally found a misplaced oob object in Dawn
It looks like a piece of fabric flapping in the wind attached to a ring and it's underneath and to the right of the very large pillar before the ledge you fly off of to the temple, am taking pictures of it to document it
I definitely found some more oob stuff in Dawn, I'll show later
I may have found a new hangout spot in Dawn I wonder how spirits feel when a skid pops through the floor
Ooooh that sounds super interesting! I never thought about Enchantments orbs so far!
honking minutes
relatable
I wonder the old concept of sky: is sky world related to the human world?
That’s up for debate.
There’s theories on that, but the main answer is yes.
The king is real, but we don't know if they were a sky kid or not
I am trying to write a sky story which using some old concepts
The king is very tall in the old concepts, they are far taller than elders
The king is just a chibi on stilts/j
u jest, but they really might be on stilts and the true body is actually only in the 'head'
Maybe, they have been depicted as a bit to way taller than the elders.
I know, I’ve seen that art. Really cool but I mean massive circus stilts
Cant see anything
Very cool
Yeah, might not be canon now tho
Canon?
What is canon or not is decided here.
I am confused now
You mean not exist now?
Prince and King are not physically found in the Sky world, meaning that they’re technically non-canon. But their impact on Sky lore still can’t be understated. They are so important to us that they are unofficially canon now.
The king is straight up canon, as confirmed by a dev. Like, they're a thing.
When I said 'this concept might not be canon now', I was specifically talking about sky kingdom being some kind of afterlife/limbo.
I know we joke a lot, but we really don't decide the canon here. Canon isn't something fans decide Baudshaw, it's literally facts about a work
Even still, I have to imagine that lorechat has some influence in Sky lore.
I really doubt the Devs are actually watching lorechat and going 'write that down, write that down!' (In fact, it might cause legal problems if they did)
this would be hilarious
But anyway, the king will exist in my sky story :)
Yep! This was a thing in old concepts. Basically in the picture you showed souls would cycle through the human world and then through Sky and back to Megabird. This is most likely no longer true, but if your story is entirely based on old concepts, that probably doesn’t matter to you.
I am really interested to see where you take this, I love the concept 
Yeah, canon doesn't matter in fan works. People should have fun with it
I love it actually
hubris
Are you going to include other old concepts in your story, or just base it around that one? Iirc the concept elders got a Lot more written down/easily accessible [instead of just implied] development than the current ones
Ah okie, I finally manage to reduce the size of the pics and video so I'll post my findings of the oob object in screenshots
My story:
a descendant of ancient sky spirits, which the spirits died after a war between spirits, elders, and light creatures; is trying to save the king's spirit and the cloud realm
Btw she is a human in real world and she's not a sky kid in the sky world, but a new creature
I kept editing, my grammar is not good
will you publish it in a fanfiction website? I want to read it!
I am still thinking the story, I want to write it but I don't have time
I will try my best to write it :)
Btw the 'new creature' is actually a mixture of elders and sky kids, I mean, sky kids (humans) soul in elder-like (similar to valley elders, forest elder) bodies
I find the quests like 'catch the light of Valley', which we need to catch the yellow flying spheres. Are they the same as the lightseekers ones in the Isle cave?
That time even the sky kids got corrupted too, so the hopeless Megabird made a new kind of humanoid creature
They SHOULD tho /hj
I am imagining them opening up lorechat hoping for a cool headcanon they could use, just to sigh in disappointment when they see us theorizing about which characters would have a fursona and what they would be
Us: -debating on what Megabird would taste like and devising recipes-
The devs: -long suffering sigh-
What about the performance second task? ANdin doubt theories would cause legal problems?
stretching guru having a crane fursona sent me tho
ME TOO every time a spirit fursona is confirmed, 5 years are added to my life
Stretching Guru: sees a crane stretching. My people
I can’t decide which is funnier: all the spirits in gratitude are furries and guru is just the sneaky one, or that the only one without an animal mask is a furry
Us as an audience understanding the source material and picking up the crumbs they're laying down isn't them stealing our theories, it's them being good at writing.
As for the second thing, there is a whole thing about authors not really being able to read fanfic, because if a fan makes a similar fic to something they wrote but have not yet published, ironically they can be messed with for theft and it's a whole mess
Fanfiction has always caused shaky legal trouble
From what I understood that was more about the way the information was presented than the info itself
stretching guru i would die for u
Their fursona is a crane with those exact colors named Candy Corn
They run a gym called Candy Corn’s Fitness
candy first name corn last name
Whenever they are offered candy corn, guru will joke complain about how they can’t eat it because that would be them eating their fursona, but the entire bag mysteriously disappears whenever they’re alone with it
They are a flamboyant diva on pride parade floats
the venn diagram of ancestor theater kids and ancestor furries is a circle
The “I am going to wear this animal mask to play a character” to “I have a fursona now” pipeline
YEAH
Forest Elder’s plans coming to fruition
if this is true then there are a disproportionate amount of bird furries in the Sky kingdom which I really love,
I bet most of the flight spirits have one
#ForestGrindset rule #7: You must have a fursona. This is not a suggestion it's a threat.
Saving this for later
there are 2 distinct furry factions in Sky: cat furries (nerds) vs bird furries (theater kids)
postman:
okay but who's fursona is a krill?
Dusk
Postman is like a mercenary between the two sides. They lean towards whoever they choose
Tsadi.
That’s awesome
Both of you are wrong, their fursona is clearly a duck and I have evidence
No you don’t
I just had a terrible idea
Day elder having a very edgy wolf fursona despite being seemingly nice on the outside
Prophets are on another level
Tsadi’s would be a creb
duck elder…
Shush
Welp, Alasdair's word is law. Dusk Elder's fursona is a duck
The prophets are otherkin
duck elder
oh my god I love them
DUCK ELDER
No, I’m a speculative fiction writer, nothing I say is lawhjgjgg he xhkuh
too late.
tase him again
It's too late to take back your words now. It has been made (head)canon.
*salt and peppar him
Alasdair provides the canon now
SALT AND PEPPAR ALASDAIR

Like black and white hair or
Like salt and peppered Apple slices
Can’t even salt & pepper someone correctly smh look at those emotes
That’s a thing?!?
there’s no ground pepper emoji and also it’s all pepper anyways
its a good thing you dont know restless
there is no ground pepper emote, so we're makin' do
@native shoal it is, and Ash jokingly said the Valley Elders like their apple slices this way
@keen shore black pepper is different from red chili pepper
sending alasdair to pepper dimension as we speak
Please, my allergies
coping for being salt and peppared
A fate worse than death awaits
Tissues and Free clean?
I want to post the skyshop art in here but I have brought up the topic of that Particular Spirit quite excessively and I want a rest from talking about them tbh
but it has given me lore ideas……….where do the lanterns come from
how does it feel. How does it feel to be transported to a food dimension full of things that make your allergies flare up? huh? huh? please tell me I would I have no idea / j
I like salt, I used to lick it up like a horse.
Sending Salem back to the cheese dimension
@lyric isle please share the art
salt is nice
?????????
You put blocks of salt in the pen with horses (and cows too I think)
this week's TS lore nerd ||has a horse fursona||
So when I was really sick one time, I got immense salt cravings so I would pour salt in my hand and lick it up.
Salt is bad for horses, you put it for bisons and cattle.
this makes me wonder if the lanterns originated from somewhere with trade to the kingdom
if this is them showing us stuff from abroad
yes I am analysing some cute one-off art. what of it? we do that all the time
alasdair what
Oh okay this makes sense. I have chicken broth that’s like 90% salt when I get sick I was just very confused
I used to do that as a kid, I just liked salt
Are we sure sky kingdom isn't the culture where the lanterns originated in the first place? If they celebrate 'Days of fortune' it might just be their holiday rather than a foreign holiday
almost chocked on my spit laughing at this
I still get salt cravings from time to time but now I just eat cheese
I know this is promo art but it’s made me headcanon that the lanterns come from elsewhere but got adapted
and QG came across where they came from here. and bought a hell of a lot of them. to show us the origin perhaps
[tears running down my face as I turn my head away dramatically and sad music plays in the background] must be nice… /j
Eat cheese. Embrace deliciousness. We'll bring nice flowers to your funeral
have gotten fascinated in the other lands quite a lot
h I didn’t want to talk about them again for a while but that art has been making me think a lot about its implications
the lanterns. (assuming this is them visiting or something)
Apparently you can get salt cravings from just being stressed out and yea makes sense (college student)
if I had to guess where the oanterns are from I would say isle :-) this is 90% me being biased because it’s my favorite realm though, and the other 10% is just because it’s the most isolated one, so if unique traditions developed anywhere within the kingdom it would be there. I also imagine the gratitude spirits to be fro m isle as well and it fits
why do they have so many lanterns how do they fit on the boat
how
They may not be stone lanterns like memory cubes are
home depot lighting section
What if I’m a bird nerd
Ok hear me out. You put a big sail across the top of the boat, kind of like a hot balloon dome. You release 10,800 glowing lanterns underneath. You now have an improvised hot air boat and that is how the traveler gets around
I don't know the official lore. What is the lore?
lantern air balloon
We don't know -shrug-
oh no
OFHHFHFHF
Can you tell us when you find out please?
Skykid with mouth oml
:(
Which characters? Wdym which? Isn’t it just all of them?
lore nerds seeing One piece of promotional art be like
The lore is as follows:
Stars fell from the sky apparently
There's a big diamond
That's actually all we KNOW
@keen shore Or the Traveling Spirits crash down from the heavens like when do when reborn
Blessed image 💛 I love it so much and am crying tears running down my face
Then why is this a spoiler?
“giving away some of my 7435374443737463247373648446 lanterns to random skykids!”
but seriously why do they have so many and where is the land they came from
well we just answered
it’s just cute promo art it doesn’t mean anything
The channel has spoilers for Eden, Orbit and secret areas in it that don’t have to be spoilered here. Sky lore is mostly up to interpretation, although there are a lot of solid theories here that make sense and I could see Beinf canon. There is a canon, we just don’t know a ton about it yet
Because there are things in the game that you're meant to find on your own
And the thing is, everything is up to interpretation in terms of lore, there's no official "canon" that we know of
I've always assumed they came from Isle and sail to Home during Days of Fortune
seeing the variety is so cute, giving us room to interpret our lantern 💙
I dont really want to think iaps are anything more special than buying cosmetics ingame, but the retired questgiver selling lanterns is 
? Why did you tag me for this ? It’s a neat thought I’m just confused
yesssss the variety of lanterns has me Thinking
What are lanterns and why are they important ?
@keen shore oh my bad. Didn’t mean to tag it to specifically you. I think it was the person before your comment that I meant to tag. Sorry 😖
We don't know

They light stuff up
I see, but why?
Days of Summer Lights IAP, they're not that important but it's cute to see a spirit sell them (forget about it being super expensive)...
I mean, as beings of light, lanterns are rather important to skykids, ancestors, and Elders. You’d like to see in the dark, right?
Lanterns in general: they glow and are pretty. Might be important for ceremonies/celebrations in Sky,
Memory Lanterns in vault: project various intangible illusions. Are currently non functional and we don’t know how to open them, which is infuriating
Ah, Alrighty.
*laughs in broke* yeah don't mind that price :')
they’re not particularly important, just that sleepy traveller has an absurd amount they’re selling and that’s caught my attention because 1/ content that’s made me stop fearing them being forgotten about 2/ the implications are interesting to me
for the lack of any content I take this as canon
I see.
Shiny bois
I’m also trying to figure out the symbol on the front of their cart. It looks like pi but that would be weird so I don’t think that’s it?
It looks like the portals in home I think
nah it’s just a ribbon
OH I THINK I SEE THE RIBBON like tied around the handle?
also this art has basically made some comfort headcanons I wanted to have about them visiting every now and then but was unsure if they were ‘too hopeful’ become Pretty Much Strongly Implied so that’s super cool
Nvm I'm just blind
It actually is a ribbon
I also questioned that lol
Traveler is a math nerd????
@sharp lichen your time has come
wouldn’t be surprised; would need to know some mechanics to make a lantern powered boat hot air balloon
The cart design is very interesting 2 me. I wonder if they pull it around themselves or if they hitch it to a manta, that would be really cute
I mean
Mantas like kidnapping skids so
maybe they like carrying stuff around voluntarily?
loving lore chat. we just see one illustration that isn’t intended to be that deep and then get completely absorbed
Lorechat is starved for content
Blame TGC 
/Lh
Luckily quest 3 is in two days (or 3 days. The game says 2 but it's gonna do some weird '3 hours left' thing)
me being very starved for both content of lore and ex-qg so the two ending up going hand in hand is natural tbh
it fed the latter so well but the former demanded to be fed too so I am Appeasing
the weird hour counting thing you mentioned was the bane of my moth existence when it came to being excited for wuests
Ey wassup lorechat 
What did I miss this time 
Brings me back to my days of being an SU fan waiting for new episodes
Stretching guru has a fursona
Dusk elder is a duck
Old QG sells lanterns
a l o t of lanterns
There’s a dusk elder?
I can never tell if we have that many days left or if I should add an extra day to my calculations
aka Wasteland Elder
I also have a really weird question about the ex qg hairstyle. Quite a few spirits habe it and it’s always confused me, because the hood covers the ponytail — is there a hole in it for the ponytail or something??
yeah I believe there’s a slit in these hoods by design for that
I wanted to talk about that art so badly I apologise
Huh! That’s really cute. I wonder what the hoods are for :-) could be to protect their heads from the sun or something? And do not apologize we liked the art !
Is it fine if I write fanfics with the existing old sky concept?

it’s been gradually turning into a positive fixation rather than yearning so I’m gonna still be talking about that damn spirit a lot but at least in a good way
team rocket intro but it’s my biggest brainrot spirits with nod and high-ten and ex-qg respectively
The emote is called SpiritFriend 

👐
good friends are like stars. you may not see them but you know they’re always there
Oh no I’ve never seen them in game I’m relatively new. It’s just the name of the emote
hold spirit friend gently like hamburger
of course! nothing’s stopping you
spirits are friends and I am fixated on them all. just that particular one in the emoji especially for uh. it’s a very long story
🤝 what is in the fists..

👐
Are you comfortable/willing to tell the story?

ok but I noticed that spirits without hoods up still have them on their shawls
OOOH LET ME CHECK ONE SEC
would rather not. it’s not something I really want to discuss in-depth somewhere like this
have done it before and it’s not really turned out well tbh as it’s gotten me irrationally upset and caught in a loop many a time
Hoodies are cool
Ok, cool, I understand that 💙
but the negative feelings have been slowly becoming positive ones as my attitude changes is why I’m k now
I’m glad to hear that… I’ve had things like that before- yearning in a negative/unhealthy way- and recently it’s turning around and becoming positive… which I’m happy about
getting caught in a loop of grief is no fun
imma only say that
but uh. ya spirit hoods
Yeah it isn’t… not easy to get out of either… but it’s really a relief to get there 💙
Yes spirit hoods
random Prophecy QG picture as they’re the first spirit with this particular model I can find in my gallery
notice the kinda. collar looking thing? I assume that’s a collapsed hood
also meet my main skykid/persona Nafis
hair on top of hood
they're coming
OHHH I NOTICED THAT ON HIDE AND SEEK PIONEER I WOJDERED WHAT IT WAS
yeah I allude that to funny modelling rather than trying to make sense of it
though why are we assuming the limits of our world should apply? we don’t know what went on
maybe hair-on-hood was a massive fad for ancestors
I am trying to hold back laughter imagining prophecy guide struggling to fit the hood over their mask ears
also hi Cannoneer has one on their cape and that has me obsessed as I want to see it up so badly
Gimme a sec
please…with its hair trailing out of the, ,,
please
Maybe there’s a hole at the top of ancestor hoods for the hair to poof out of 
what if it isn't a hood but a headwrap? then they could leave however many open spots in the fabric for hair to pop out. see the Laughing spirit has two afro puffs when most spirits with the headcovering have one singular ponytail
adjustable Hair Hole (TM) for your shawl
contact your local seamster
oh no my spirit OC who’s a seamster in Prairie
yeah that would make infinitely more sense
OOOH, like modest dancer’s would be a more detailed version of that? Like one rendered where you can actually see the fabric overlapping and the folds
since it was mentioned, Cannoneer's cape does seem to have an actual hood hood
yeah I said
I want to see Cannoneer with it up so badly
I will repeat
hoodies are cool
literally wearing a hoodie right now
Hoodie gang.
FINALLY. MAYBE TRAVELER CAN HELP. THEY KNOW SKY GRAVITY SO THEY CAN HELP ME
HUH… DOES ANYONE KNOW TRAVELERS NUMBER??
Lore chat, is robbing banks as skids morally okay?
everyone who could've ran a bank is dead for I'd say go for it
But is it okay?
I would say yes. Technically since the ancestors are all dead, it doesn’t belong to anyone, so scavenging rights would apply
The only hiccup would be that the ancestors might protest
Alrighty.
Tysm for requesting this I had SO MUCH FUN and am very happy with it :D enjoy!!
Would that technically be archaeology
screw the ancestors, they're dead– omg Bird that is hella cool
BIRD THATS SO COOL THE ARTSTYKE IS SO GOOD :0 :0 :0 WOW
Hey! Here's a number you can calculate :)
how much debt do you owe?
TY ALL OF YOU :D
Would definitely be archaeology 
WOAH THAT LOOKS INCREDIBLE AAAAA

ikr that's so well drawn
This is epic
have you done any other spirit drawings?
Hm- I have some yeah, many of my drawings are of ocs but I’ve done a few spirits- don’t have them all saved on my phone though so if you want to see more probably search my user in #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations
Pls give more drawing ideas that was so fun and yes it’s 9:50 but I’m going to make a poor decision and stay up drawing because screw it, it’s Friday
EST gang
Who should I draw nexxxxttttttt?
Can skids have black hair?
prob not – their hair is made of light
Unless they glitch lol
Can skids be made of shadows or nope?
What about a spirit with like ankle-length hair? 
Oh I meant more like hcs/thoughts for specific spirits
No, a skid cannot be made of shadows. They’re quite literally Children of the Light. Darkness is the absence of light, so by definition, it would be impossible
By definition, they’re made of light, so no
Moth beat me to it sorry
Alrighty, one more question, can they corrupt?
That goes into the realm of hcs and aus. Canonically I don’t think we have an example of a corrupted skid. But many people make corrupted ocs.
laughs in fanfiction
Alrighty, trying to see if I have to change a skids design.
In-universe I would still say no. Again, darkness is the absence of light. In order to become corrupted with darkness like you usually see in fanart/fics, they’d need to complete alter their entire being all at once. However, at that point, they would cease to be skids and become something else. Now could they become corrupted as in morally corrupt? I would say yes. But that wouldn’t manifest as darkness flakes. Of course, out of universe, anything goes, so at the end of the day it’s up to you 
Alrighty!
Let me answer your question with a question: how do you divide by zero?
Oh my gosh please no. It’s like- nothing and infinity and chaos
Easy. You just put x over 0 like this x/0
the answers are irrelevant
You might have to get a negative number first before dividing by zero.
??? explain your logic
College debt.
I’m only more confused, clarify?
Debt, usually leaves you in negative, then you devide by zero and you get x number.
Ok but- that still doesn’t solve the problem of dividing by zero
I am also equally confused at what you are going for here
If you divide a negative number by zero you allways get 1.
Who taught you this?
No body, I’m just fooling around.
x/0 is always undefined, isn’t it?
Yes! Because it breaks math!
Yeah ik it’s more complex than that but boy is it a handful to try and unpack
Yea
you can't divide by zero because zero is nothing.
debt is negative numbers or, in regards to money, an owed amount. a something can must be fulfilled
I had to check to make sure I didn’t confuse it with anything else. I’m decently okay at math, I’m just bad at remembering small things like this
Isn’t x^0 the one that always makes 1?
I think so
Yeah it is. Maybe Map got them mixed up?
I don’t know, my brain hurts
Fix it with duct tape
I’VE SOLVED IT
x/0 = Crab Whisperer and their army of wall chibis
lorechat can only do math within 9-5 business hours
Exactly. That’s what I’m sending to your location right now, Strega.
X/0 is undefined
Just like for how much longer you're willing to let your debt rise!
now pay up
It’s impossible and unneeded to solve X/0. Just like paying my debt.
No no no
It's impossible & unneeded to let you continue your debt-ridden existence!
Which can be swiftly fixed with on easy payment of 198 hearts (interest reduced) 
Unfortunately, I’m paying my debts to no-one. You’re not the legal successor of the debt. You have no power here.
Incorrect. The debt was placed up for auction upon the original owner's departure. I won said auction & will be collecting your debt in their place 
There actually are many instances in which x/0 must be defined and in such instances it is often "simplified" as x/0= ♾️ (if I remember correctly)
I AM IN YOUR WALLS HAHAHA NOTHING CAN STOP ME
Pay your debt
Pay your debt or I'm burning the house down
Oh yes I do
The message doesn’t exist anymore!
That means the copyright accusation is irrelevant, and that I’m debt-free!
Nope, you still haven’t paid those hearts
I DONT NEED DO WAAH
The damage has already been done
I have served lorechat for well over a year now. I am the ruler of it. My ego’s the only thing that’s higher then my debt.
Not even you can escape the debt
I do not fear anything. Not even the SkyRS. I have spent hours and hours here, I am not letting this be
2950 hearts btw
HOW
It’s been 295 days, and 10 hearts were added everyday so….
Almost a year
How the mighty fall
wdym?
The entire section above me
Baud is indebted to pay for the lore bible
I don't like reading, since when do we have a lore bible
the devs have one. we want it.
We should pull a national treasure on the lore bible
btw here's Baud fleeing into the ocean if yall wanna track him down.
Traitor trying to jump ship. Turn around and sacrifice yourself in Eden like the rest of us
I’m still convinced that that is what the abyss spirits should have done at the end of the ffifh quest it would be so funny. Instead of letting u ascend them they just run
Excellent. Your services are valued. You will be spared when you inevitably go into debt.
granted Cannoneer went off and got eaten. maybe that experience made them realize "oh this world is a mess, guess we better ascend and get the hell outta here."
Nothing gives you a dose of reality like being devoured by a freaking Armageddon demon fish 
if I wrote abyss I would have made them just sail away after the third quest and then the rest of the season you had to just frantically track them down . granted the canon quests are better but can you imagine
Strega is on the hunt
inevitably?
I mean, you’re American, inevitably is a pretty fair assessment
you know my version of the Abyss quests would've been multiplayer
I expand my debt collecting business through imperialism
👍
I should be writing but I am procrastinating by staring at a discord channel that is nearly devoid of life. Why am I doing this. Who placed an anti writing hex on me
Salem 🤝 Alasdair
should be writing
I can no longer harass you about needing to write . I know your feeling now
me: wow I got done candle running an hour early tonight. I could write a little–
brain: what if you practiced Stagehand's finger-killing music sheet?
me: also a good idea
The world becomes twice as full of alternate things to do when you need to write
I am now pestering AFK players
Heeeheeeheheeheee
even if the Abyss crew had fled off into the sea, what would be there for them to do? all the ancestors are dead and their spirits are likely petrified, which the Abyss crew cannot undo.eventually they're gonna run out of resources again. worse case scenario, they get stranded and they petrify again. all that effort for nothing. what else would they be doing?
You are correct but counterpoint. My idea is very very funny
it is funny and I can honestly see them doing that
Do you think Isle grandpa's face is the way is it now because when he crash down from Megan he landed with his face like a moth that doesn't switch flight mode?
Their face breaking prob happened later in life
i like to imagine he accidentally tripped on his robe and fell onto his staff
- Moth /
- Pointing Candlemaker /
- Flight Guide
: What does "A" stand for?
: Arson.
: What does "B" stand for?
: Barson.
: *laughing*
: What does "C" stand for?
: Commit arson.
: Oooooooh!
: What does "D" stand for?
: Don't come near me...
||
: **I'm going to commit arson. **||
:What about “E”?
: Enjoy Committing Arson.
F stands for "fire" and G stands for "going to commit arson"
do y’all think that the valley twins make the team rocket speech and make the skykid be meowth
Yes
Omg yes
Has anyone ever thought what that ding noise when you accidentally fly into something is?
Your skull and every other bone in your head breaking immediately on impact.
daily orb delivery
Oof
y’all have bones?
I thought the ding was an ow or something like that but in skykid language
bobbit-
i thought so too! it’s very funny
Thinking about how both the rhythm/performance twins and the valley elders have a twin with messy/spiky hair (
/
), and a twin with swooshy/tidy hair (
/
).
And like, someone even pointed out there was a twin pattern in Valley (bowing medalist & backflip champion, base game spirits, also fit the spiky/swooshy hair thing) and theorized it might be because there's a higher twin birth rate, perhaps because of the influence of the elders. I think it was either Krii or Spade 
That is very interesting
Just had a thought that destroyed me; Sky children ingame did not visibly form a society yet, so when they relive spirit memories, could some crave being part of something bigger ?
Browsing through a busy marketplace with friends or being part of the coliseum crowd cheering for racers will be experiences they will never personally have (in this state).
The world of sky is teeming with life, but not the kind that makes abandoned streets less lonely.
With the village theater being something sky kids can collaborate on to make something bigger than anyone could individually make, perhaps it could scratch the itch of being part of a project that isn't starting from scratch (the theater is still functional) and have another way to express themselves while forming bonds
I can't describe it well with words, but it's basically the closest thing to having what ancestors had, a part of society that isn't abandoned or in ruins.
Anyway, Performance guide being almost giddy at the idea of witnessing the first steps of skykid theater. They probably would love that they left us something to use and feel fulfilled with.
Velaaaa
that’s so sad but also really sweet
No it’s them swearing
But in skid language 
*blink many times*
Sky kingdom have connection with modern earth.. that's apart of the lore (?)
Also hello everyone : )
We must pull a heist on the lore bible.
Maybe? One idea I had was the Sky world and real world have merged together, almost like planes in DND. I’m not entirely sure though.
I don’t know what the ‘ding!’ sound is when we crash, but I headcanon it to be like a xylophone. It makes a pseudo-bell sound, similar to when the mallet hits the bars of a xylophone. The base masks seem to be made of wood, and as we pretty much all agree, skids are probably hollow. So when a hollow skid faceplants into something with their wooden mask, it sounds just like the instrument and reverberates in the skid
There are several documentaries that have spotted wall chibis purposefully faceplanting into objects to create beautiful musical pieces, especially Carol of the Bells
//shoot, I forgot to turn ping off
sorry…
this is why sky reminds me so much of breath of the wild. in botw, you’re wandering through a nearly forgotten kingdom, full of crumbled buildings and the whispers of someone who once lived there. every now and then you stumble upon some sort of village or safe haven, but other than that, it’s just you and the open sky.
by the end of botw, you know that you’re going to rebuild hyrule offscreen. but sky doesn’t offer that kind of solace. you’re stuck in this melancholy loop where you know the world around you will never change, and that the only impact you will have is saving the people. you can’t move these mountains or rebuild these towns. you’re forced to sit and watch nature crawl over them and reclaim these ancient structures until you’re left with nothing but prairies, forests, and deserts.
Uh, deviation from Sky Lore: Is BotW set in Zelda 1 era, maybe on parallel timeline?
botw is canonically set in a convergence of all three zelda timelines! so, at some point in the timeline, the child timeline, downfall timeline, and adult timeline all converged to make the botw era 
Wow plus it seems to be at a future point from other major games too! That makes it like Sky in a way
I have beta designs if anyone would like to converse over them
we’ve all agreed to turn a blind eye to the mess that is the sky timeline LMAOOO someday we’ll figure out all the time shenanigans outside of the backstory
I think it’s not that melancholy. What we see in the present is the ending of the Sky kingdom. Nothing changes here on out. It is in perfect balance, and we are only there to prevent it from changing.
I like Sky backstory. I like that it’s partly unknown. If you relax in Orbit, the music that plays feels like the same as the feeling of Sky lore.
The music there is like washing away of a past age and now a feeling of wonder and distant connection in the modern era. It’s kind of like the answers are as far away as the stars.
i love games that are post apocalyptic but leave a majority of the questions up to the player. that’s why games like botw and sky are my favorites. you can sit in a wide open grassy field, listening to the wind, and wonder if anyone ran through these fields a hundred years before you, and wonder where their grave is. and sometimes just wondering that fills you with the warmth of wonder
https://youtu.be/x_d5prGh3hg skip to 2:20
It doesn’t really have it. Orbit has a tune that stretches out and repeats just a few bars from this song, the 👇Mi 👆La Ti Do Ti… with a high La that comes in too. Then only when you enter the door does this part at 2:20 continue
Cello I think
Seasons of Prophecy and Abyss but omg Adamn stop torturing these images.
God can you imagine going through all of the trials while the screen is deep fried?
Or going through Abyss lookin’ like THIS-
the valley duplication ray…
Skid wanders into Valley temple…
Sunset move to take the skid’s candle.
Skid clutches candle: noooo please it’s my only friend and Rain already hit it. 
Sun has a moment of realization and looks at Set.
Set grabs the ray and uses it on the skid.
Skid and twin skid stare at each other.
Sunset, in unison: now you have two friends! 
I had this thought at one point during season of dreams, and it made the whole story a lot sadder <\3 at least the assembly guide kinda adopted us into their group
Wonderful what great lore observations
Hey lore chat I found some art a few days ago (I can’t remember the name of the artist) but opinions on this theory?
that's an interesting idea! Skeletons fusing with darkness.
Hshxhxhs the names remind me of my fic
that's what it reminded me of too lol
I wonder if their time of day names were more popular, who would be Sun and who would be Set? Like how when regarded as Samekh,
is Sah and
is Mekh
they're often numbered 1 and 2, with
as 1 and
as 2 (you can actually see that in the emoji names lol). so probably
as Sun and
as Set
tho the numbers confuse me to no end because you have to buy
's hair first but. yeah
maybe that's their place on the podium
That would be so funny
“Scuse me, twin, but I’m Sun today 😏”
if they win with a tie, can they say "we are [number] 1" ?
Sorry to interrupt, but was taking a closer look at the forgotten arc murals and saw this, good bye.
I see water, air, fire and earth but the rest idk what means
I think the diamond could represent knowledge and the spiral could represent darkness, since they have the same symbols as red and purple lights.
swirl also resembles the eyes of the fire trial shadows
That makes sense.
Yep! The one that looks like a diamond shaped eye is purple light <•> and the spiral is red. The other symbols are fairly obvious, they’re alternate symbols for orange-blue
I think the symbol shown here for earth is an actual alchemical symbol irl lemme check
oh I thought it was like, prairie temple or smthn
[the only reason I know about these symbols is because I used them on my fursona design don’t tell anyone]
I was wrong though, the one shown here for earth is the air symbol irl. Maybe it’s resembling a snowy mountain here
That’s a rune for energy .
Wdym? Can you elaborate on where you got that from?
maybe the one shown for earth is the earth symbol upside down?
Yep, it is! Weirdly enough, although it might have an alternate meaning here
It’s a rune used in witchcraft to represent energy or light to say. I just zoomed in and took one of my books.
would you happen to have an image 👀
me and the boys on our magic trade trip about to get a free go on the drop tower ride
No. It’s a book that’s more personal.
that’s understandable
runes are often associated with witchcraft and I have no doubt that these specific six are also being used for magic in Sky, but they see a lot more usages and meanings over different places.
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@keen shore is right, the symbol for earth in the game is the symbol for air in real life alchemy
@uncut fern unfortunately with modern witchcraft, for a lot of books you got a case of verbal telephone where some things taken out of context are mingled together, which can sometimes more than edge on cultural appropriation (see the whole discourse on white people smudging) or mixing celtic, hellenistic and jewish cultures together...
I see, but the book I was talking about is one I made myself and was talking about the diamond to clarify sorry if I confused anyone. Good bye.
Fair, sorry for assuming.
It’s perfectly fine, assumtions are made sometimes.
Noticed this in the Golden wasteland temple 
I got a lantern, if you give me a better idea of where in the temple, i could get a pic !
Also had started research for sky, I ended up stopping cause finding 2 parts of the boat then feeling lost on how to write it down, either as it being into one structure, aka a boat split in half, or if it's 2 separate boats....yeah confusing from there
Sure thing I'll head there now!
Oh I meant like, is it on a wall, or on the door perhaps ?
It's on a wall!
Allright, I will go and take you some screens !
I'll go see where exactly it was at cause ngl I don't remember
ehhh it's not an area that's too big either