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I would think there’s a load of them in, oh, I don’t know, Sanctuary 😅
The parts of the kingdom we restore are for the spirits who find it significant, and we do interact with the spirits, but they're not alive, and ascending them is our duty
unfortunately it's been a vague but long amount of time since the kingdom was alive
depends on whether you mean the kingdom as all the people living in it or the Sky world itself
It’s possible that some did escape the initial disaster, but died later anyways. We’d still be too late to save them :(
It’s strange because you never really know about what the disaster really was. We know it has to do with the king, the darkness, and the Eye of Eden, but there are areas that look perfectly un-ravaged in the outskirts of the kingdom
keyword "outskirts." the closer to Eden you go, the worse it looks
Not really. A bunch of kids flying around and a full fledged kingdom aren’t really the same or comparable. And with the seasonal spirits part - rebirth in this context would mean getting reborn as a living ancestor, not being summoned down as a spirit
the only realm completely untouched by the darkness is isle of dawn, and even then its got its own problems to deal with (being a desert)
A living ancestor
With a. solid. body.
@white junco the Switch Trailer proves that Isle was once lush. The darkness might've turned it into a desert.
Auauuuuuughjhjjj I have evidence against that but I can’t post it for a few hours >:(
HOURS????
I don't think it was the darkness, there are no dark plants and no crabs in isle, making it the only realm to have neither. Isle probably wilted over time, we don't know how long ago the switch trailer was.
actually to bring up a bit of a tinfoil hat theory, maybe the isle was originally a desert and they terraformed it with green light.
I also can't post all my evidence rn rip 😔
There are dark plants in Isle, but they're all the way at the end
the darkness's effect on Isle could me more indirect in that without living ancestors to maintain it, the Isle became adesert
Perhaps the Eye sucked all the light away from people over time, with its original goal as a light-harnessing power diamond having gone terribly wrong
oh no I forgot about those. um. this is kind of awkward now
I was thinking that with isle and wasteland too! (Being terraformed by green light) but,.. I don’t know how reasonable it is, considering they don’t seem to have much connections ro it otherwise
How does a meadow (or whatever it was) turn into a desert over time?
Wouldn’t it become like.. overgrown?
Running out of nutrients
edit: the second quest isn't out yet???
Counteridea: the ancestors left because it was becoming a desert 
augh I can post my full theory once the second quest comes out hhhh
The second Performance quest comes out tomorrow?
The second Performance quest seems important, I wonder why
eye twitches uncontrollably Don’t worry about it.
are we allowed to talk about the second performance quest the minute it comes to live or should we wait for people to get the chance to play it first
I don't know with you but I'm gonna mute lorechat until I play it
I got spoiled on what it was based on thumbnails I’m excited 
do the first one honestly. If people checked lorechat before they did the actual quest and got spoiled, that’s on them
I want to be in chat when the convo happens but unfortunately reset is at 3 am for me and I tested positive today so staying up past 3 am is a very very bad idea
eh I'll figure it out
??????????? Unexpected member of est gang?
now I'm really curious where did u think I was
Any CST-er’s in the chat?
hell
in many many ways, you're not wrong
(I'm in a discord server with hell in the name I'm not in the worst place of all time)
but yeah Spade EST gang, I've only intentionally stayed up til reset 3 times: New Year's fireworks, chill sunbather, and scarecrow farmer
Oh I just assumed you were American and that was the joke
OH YOURE NOT WRONG THERE EITHER
Alright, if I may, surely there have to be descendants of the ancient kingdom somewhere in the world of the sky
I mean, there's us. We inherit the world from the ancestors. But if you mean direct biological descendants, then no. The apocalypse happened at least a couple hundred years ago. Everyone is gone
I love the dynamics of the ancestors
my blorbos... they're all dead...
it’s ok though. In the sky universe that doesn’t matter too much :-)
I have very important questions for praying acolyte, why are the constellations not visible in there
I stood in there looking for so long today and nothing
I have an important question for praying acolyte
WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT US-
praying acolyte 
I feel like they watched all their friends slowly die
fun fact, when you finish their memory sequence, before they do their emote, acolyte looks over the edge of the ledge they're standing on
I believe it’s a bug, i’ve seen it happen with a couple other spirits
So becuase I am currently drawing, i wonder how skykids clothing works
yeah :( :( :( when I noticed this my hart broke
Poor acolyte. Why are the saddest spirits stories always my favourites
Innate desire to give hug
Yes
But going on the topic of my clothes ramble
In a lot of the base game pants we see this sorta wrap thing going on. Is it like a weird coat? Coat shirt?
And what is the weird neck thing we have going on? Is that an accessory on part of the weird coat shirt 
Why do we have a 3rd eye
saw two of these today, one of which was in a different spot. I think they might be connected to the wise grandparent memories bc the first time the player reliving the memory got to the next one and the particle crab disappeared before i could snag a screenshot. this one only appeared when the floating lantern lit up the area, and then disappeared once it moved past and wouldn’t reappear. Lore or bug?
Third eye?
Also I’ve seen the floating particle thing too
i’m assuming they mean the third glowy thing
also i find it interesting that the yellow diamond is painted on with the scarecrow farmer mask
It’s not an actual eye, if you use the maskless cosmetic you can see that skykids only have 2 eyes. Though i’m not sure what the glowy thing in the forehead of some masks is
I know people were talking about masks being related to a profession a bit back, so what if it’s related to that
could be. we only have confirmation that the animal masks correspond to specific professions, but it’s by no means a stretch
Maybe painted or plain masks (like the tan mask we get) are symbolizing travellers
oh wait hold on i just realized. every spirit with a tan mask that looks like ours is not, in fact, wearing the exact same mask as us. their little forehead diamonds are all painted on (sanctuary and flight included bc they’re the best examples)
Hmmm, interesting
Ya din’ know? Default mask.
Perhaps back then the diamond represented something- now along with skykids, it shows our inner light ^^?
In a bit of trivia it was revealed what was it? Rhythm guide’s mask, was once considered for being the default.
sometimes you just don’t notice things for a while. it happens
hiking grouch’s mask is kind of bothering me tho. mx why do you have a glowing white stone on your mask
Aesthetic
No but seriously, the spirits seem to lack a good deal of pants based fashion, and go all out in areas like their masks and capes instead
has anyone found out anything abt the murals in season of abyss map?
i saw someone talking about it(smwhere else) and if yall hadn't, i could share their ideas here
yeah the light thingie is in the same place as it appears on the default mask but this appears on the actual spirit. which i don’t think happens with many others if at all
Basically that it was a place used for mining out the “treasure” (whether that was the treasure we see in the season or dark stone or something else, im not sure)
oooo masks
It was used before the flood. The spirits we meet either discovered it or were survivors. (At least this is my theory)
Wow It’s been a while since I left the chat a few months ago
Praying Acolyte x Therapy
oh the murals as in some of them has mantas- so they collect these "treasures" from them, right?
and some idk if they are mutated- has extra wings, and under those conpartments has the "king krill" we speak of- but perhaps the creature didn't originate from krills but from mantas instead? idk
Phantom crabs in Vault?
Performance act 2 Seasonal quest is out!
I look forward to piecing these stories together with you all, seems there is some Prince / King lore in there to be extracted too!
Possibly even a bit about who we are, and the winged lights as well
HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
I'd advise caution since it's a story and not a history book, but Storyteller my friend... I would "borrow" their scripts.
Oooo thanks
Yes, everything, including the murals have to be taken as an internal history, so skewed by the spirits who made them, so there can be inconsistencies depending on point of view
I think this one is nice as being told as a form of legend, passed down from spirits of Isle, possibly through others to the performance spirits.
Murals sound more accurate imo, this is a story that was likely made more pretty for audiences.
There's some dark and tragic stuff in there too, a star shining so brightly that they can no longer see anything when they look out to, I think there are hints of the Eden ascent there.
I do like that this is set in a desert, meaning these ancestors indeed may have known the fate of Isle (and possibly Eden ?), placing them later on the timeline.
I like how there appear to be 4 children in the mural as well, it's all tying up together quite nicely.
YEAH and there's 4 trials in Prophecy as well !
4 figures in a lot of Isle murals
Maybe those 4 became the prophets, and the 5th was the Prince
Yes, they are the stars that the intro talks about, pretty much confirmed here.

I'm glad this kinda confirms my theory that ancestors went through the same cycle as light creatures & were rebirthed as spectacularly as us.
Even the light creatures are from the stars originally
YEAH I LOVE IT
Birbs-
I like to think ancestors had kids falling from the sky, and groups of ancestors that felt they were ready to care for one just... picked them up and adopted them.
That sound a little- kids falling from the sky
, but then again T^T
do y'all ever think about how essentially skids were created by the megabird to bring the spirits n such back to the stars/sky
like yes we're children but we have, very important jobs
hm, makes me think of hollow knight again, tiny creatur, big important job/is very powerful
Maybe skykids were a last minute creation- like a drawing. Quick ones arent always amazing-
OMG.... this new quest LORE is all about ||the fallen skykid who entered Cave of Prophecies and completed the trials as they were fortold to be the Chosen One !||
My moment of feeling like this Avatar Legend of The Last Airbender moment
I am glad I taught this theory to my friend the other day😃🍀
Mmm my theory is that we were made by the dawn elder instead of the mega bird, why do you think the mega bird made the skids?
lore?
That feels like something said in passing, without so much thought behind it
yup.
Supposedly the realms seem to be set in different times.
Ergo, if you were to look at the eden castle (floating ruin) from Dawn, it would be a bit different than in say Day, Valley or Vault, in Eden itself.
Performance giving us a multiple choice past is fun, but with the darn tiktok 'timelines' thing is giving me vibes I do not like
LOOOOORE, thanks Season of Performance
agreed.
why must one look for lore in comment section on Tiktok, in the posts of Twitter, in the metadata of concept art, or in passing in live streams that may be lost to time?
Can one not have one official place to present canon lore?
why are there two of you suddenly @boreal nebula ? Where did u obtain the chibi
Those are murals of the cave of Porphecy, for those who may have recently joined.
Apparently not, tbh I have given up on lore long time ago & just focused on my own personal canon
Personally I think this means more like they're in different points in time, not like in different multiverses
That is a moth of mine, who I was excited to tell her about what the new quest means 
||But then I discovered She cannot stand on floatking rocks... meaning She had never completed the trials or even have any idea about what I was telling her
||
looooooool @ that spoiler
Quitter talk, I am procrastinating putting it all in a single doc /j
https://tenor.com/view/yes-happy-sponge-bob-squarepants-gif-12024010
Reenacting about me, after the last quest!
our mission is to bring the spirits back to the light, the megabird is the light, and we are reborn through her
@compact shale if you're free and you know megabird lore can you explain in a bit more detail 
Oh, sorry! I had this chat muted because I haven't done the Performance quest! Good thing I scroll pretty fast!
Well... Megabird probably created us.
As the lore moth I am I’m ready to listen
Earth has the birds and the bees.
Sky has the stars and the flames.
Megabrid, Bird of Light. The Stork of new moths XD
But instead of bring moth with comfy clothes with the beack as strok
Megabird send us on the world of Sky as fallen stars ☄️
Megabird is a bit like the King in the way that they're important figures who are mostly shown in concept arts.
In-game, they look like this (1st and 2nd image)
There's also a mural of them in Office (3rd and 4th image, 4th image is clearer)
What is Megabird?
Megabird appears to be a being of light composed of an immense amount of stars, which may possibly be the souls of light creatures such as mantas and skykids and such. Megabird creates and rebirths these creatures. Megabird's personality (or the lack thereof) is debatable because whether or not they are truly a sentient being, an instinctive force, a hivemind, or something else is also debatable.
What is Megabird's role?
Megabird creates and helps with the rebirth of light creatures. They are commonly believed to have created skykids in order to ascend the spirits from ascension, though whether or not we are created with other purposes is debatable.
at least she made us fire and fall damage proof
Good parent in that case
edit: I have dispensed Megabird info, I will go
Except rocks proof
/j
Thanks for sharing... then I was very lucky to get the Theory storyline on first try (bottom right ending
)
Oooh, so one story meets the other... I just read to quickly and thought it was about The Candlemaker cave

I dont understand the 3rd ending of the right column
Curios rock formation > Patterns begin to glow > 3 figures on boats, the child was destined to become the 4th?
Those drawn figures are Ancestor by the look of their tunics, not sky kids, right?
Could it be possible these are not just skykids?
Vela has suggested this in a different server.
megabird making skids.png
be not afraid
i'd like to imagine that sky kids don't remember megabird, or where they came from, but after going to eden and visiting her a few times they remember how they were made, who she is, kinda like a "i'm home... mom..."
XD
Did dad come back yet? 👑
no he's busy 
eh, she use to not give kids fall damage poof (remembering back to my bonk damage in valley day)
Wow.. seeing Megabird with these many eyes... it's... something ! 
LOL now I really know what’s mega bird I feel like Colon (I discover something people know long time ago) Same thing happened to me when I discovers about the King/Prince
fall damage yes! (we never lost light from falling) but she didn't make us bonk proof, she quickly learnt after taking a peek at new moths in citadel 
i remember being a moth and sliding down valley and get bonk around in the tunnel and lost one of my wl
That used to be but they change it cuz then valley was to deadly
Oooh, so after all live in Sky is all "children of the light", somehow

If an ancestor is born from stars? How would they become one instead of a light creature or skykid?
Would it be the constellation tables?
What gets me thinking is the “highest sand dune” part. They’re talking about Isle, but it has to be later Isle, when the desertification already happened
I am still figuring out where the 'valley' in Dawn is?
Good point from Baudshaw. If this was when the stars fell, then would Dawn be a desert, or would there be another area that was a desert?
I’m thinking it’s something small, like maybe a small space surrounded by 2 walls. But then it says night as well? I’m not sure if this is about us, or the King/Prince.
Hello ^^ Can i hear your theory :D! I believe the same (ish)
What I do know is that the Prophecy Guide can’t be the Chosen One. It’s either us or the King/Prince:
Based on this, I think that the “shimmering star” is the mark we see when we call: 
Yes I'm a bit torn by them being called "child", maybe reading that as "young spirit" rather than "child of light", but they are also a child of "Light", as they came from "The Light"
Makes a little more sense, so just, young spirits not specifically, beings like us
It can also be that that dune is no longer inngame.. dunes can change alot irl
Are there any videos covering sky lore? 😭 I want to understand the lore but have adhd so I can't read large walls of text explaining it
wooly manta making.png
I really want to do some, I started writing a script, but it became very long, so it would need to be a series.
Well if you ever end up finishing it or making a series, I'd love to watch it!
to cut things short:
- megabird, light entity/god/something
makes light creatures, light creatures grow old and migrate to a place where they die and get reborn through megabird - people arrive and start domesticating light creatures, making buildings etc
- there's a prince and he gets crowned king but ends up making bad decisions leading to eden turning into what we know today as eden
- there's more stuff that happened but they found out abt dark stuff and went "ooh" and now things are bad
and also you are tasked with bringing spirits back to the megabird (the world of sky was very connected to the megabird but then they got disconnected from megabird and now no longer get reborn or smth)
Also, there are clear references to Isle as a “desert”
Because of this, I’m thinking the shimmering star is a part of The Light (or the connection between the Light and the Sky world) so maybe “the stars falling” mean the disconnection of the 2.
Illuminating a cave, the
star led the child to
refuge...as the prophecy
Within the ominous
chambers the faced
many challenges. It was
fortold that they would
be first to succeed.
The prophecy cave angle has been expanded a bit in this season at least.
We finally get lore crumbs
Ahoy people of the Lore channel 
(Was a bit shy to appear before, so here we go now)
I was thinking, we have a lot of canon facts about the Season/Traveling spirits, but what about the Elders? 
We do know that the Elders were the leaders of their respective realms, and that they specialized in some sort of power/quality.
Yup, that’s clear
But- I bet a lot of us are hungry for some interesting facts we don’t know about them heheh
And that they were given that power by the Prince after the Prince completed the trials
The four elements and the four Elders yeah
Well except Daleth and Lamed
Isle (Daleth) and Vault (Lamed) do appear to be ushering on either side of life, Isle for birth, and Vault for death and rebirth
I wonder what kind of funny facts TGC would give us about the Elders
I have some ideas but I’m not sure they might work
Also boats, lots of boats, carrying light, possibly in darkstone
Butterflies (Or other light elements) being carried away in jars to the top of Eden
That’s just a theory, although a good one
True, the cave murals don't explicitly state it, but they do show a shinyboi entering the caves, completing the trials, having the 4 lights, then the elders have the 4 lights,
maybe they stole them 
did you know there was going to be a king bossfight 
Lore is lore
Matpat must make a theory because my idiot brain said so
(oh man my message is getting too big wheeze)
Imagine when Matpat finally makes a theory on Sky lore.... And it turns out to be the same theories that the whole community had abt Sky lore

I need matpat to talk about sky lore
I need a lore season about the elders/Prince/King/megabirb that takes place in Orbit. Would 100% run Eden more than once a week for that 
I'm not ready for the onslaught of MatPat fans that would make a beeline for this channel 
Not to mention his theories are meant to make clicks and not... be super interesting themselves.
Would be fun to watch SuperHorrorBro talking about the “Forgotten King of Eden and his crimes”
nsdfjksdf
that’s true, what kind of crimes do u think the eden king committed?? i know it’s theorized he used light creatures to experiment with darkstones but like. what else :0
It would be fun entertainment, though the flux of new players would be chaotic to say the least.
For instance, the moment new fans enter the channel, most of them would expect to find good lore, not a dumpster dive of what is canon and what is technically, theoretically, evidence back but not confirmed canon. That and the swarm of headcanons that floating about in the channel.
Well, he kind of murdered some of the unfortunate sky kids if I’m not mistaken (I’ve seen that on some murals but I don’t remember where-)
He corrupted the Light. (headcanon theory)
I have not visited this channel in a long time what chaos have I missed
they would be expecting serious lore and then walk in on us discussing what fursonas the season guides would have
Would you be thinking of this one?
Trigger Bot.....
Please go on a marathon on the world's shortest pier, that was unnecessary.
Well lore chat explain me about the mega bird so I reconsidered my theory, but I used to think that voice at the beginning was the dawn elder, since it’s the only elder who didn’t use darkness and the one who raise the prince I used to think they (Dawn elder, cuz idk if it is he or she or if they even have a pronoun) made us as same as prince
Is that concept art or
This need to be pin 📌
That is a screenshot of what the top of Vault used to be. This mural used to be right about the door to Eden.
Ooo I see
On the matter of ThatGameTheory
On the one hand:
Sky is haunted and kids are traumatised
The elders are doomed
How to cook a manta
Meme reaction compilation
The dark side of the elders
Death of the King
On the other hand:
Austin's math analysis on the krill's mass, what makes a skykid fly, the spirit science (how do ghost work), Sky's biology, and the world's gravity.
Mural analysis
Uncovering the history of Sky, the game. All of the content that may have been lost to time.
A timeline of seasons and series of events
What are skykids made of
And What are winged light to the lore
Theory, what if the King was like a Sky kid? Like the first Sky kid? I really believe in this
Anyway, here are my random headcanon ideas (I’ll use he/she pronounces, but only for this one message dw) 
— Daleth: Likes to spend some time with young sky kids, teaching them everything he knows
— Ayin: Sleeps a lot (logically); a bit timid and not really good at socializing with people, but feels himself really well with creatures (can heel them for example, understands their language); probably likes drinking tea; is really afraid of dark creatures but feels sorry for them too
— Teth: Really kindhearted even though she seems a bit harsh; likes spending her free time in the Pink/Sunny Forest; never takes an umbrella with her; doesn’t like hot weather; her favorite snack is probably sushi; likes dancing when no one watches her, else she gets embarrassed and angry
— The Twins: Both are “clowns”, but can be really serious if needed; afraid of the dark; often fight with each other but will cry if separated; can’t play musical instruments normally; early birds; love to sneak out from their Temple and stalk the ordinary people; good pranksters
— Tsadi: Really sleep deprived; probably doesn’t really believe in the Megabird anymore; loves helping absolutely everyone no matter how tired he is; his dream vacation would be a trip to the Sanctuary Isles; likes hot springs; might unwillingly make a little child cry because of his appearance and loud voice
— Lamed: Taciturn, prefers being alone ,ost of the time; happens really rarely, but she can gossip about someone; dwells on the past; always wanted to be a teacher; likes pilaf
Oof, that was long (dum dum headcanons heheh)
I like this
Mmmmm... Pilaf sounds delicious.
I'll be right back 🥘
I suppose he really was
The Prince fell from the sky (as a “gift” from Megabird) and was found by the Isle Spirits and then raised by the Elder (Daleth)
Then he was trained by the Prophets and after that finally “got” all the power of the four elements and then “gifted” it to the new Elders (which he probably brought together)
Then he and the Forest Elder discovered a powerful energy source — dark stone
It was a huge breakthrough. The life of the spirits was now improved thanks to new inventions.
For that, the Prince was crowned King.
However soon, something strange started happening…
That make sense, since the king come from the mega bird who is the light it self and they start using the darkness to get powerful, it has consequences, like some secondary effects that get worse and worse until eden go boom
Yup that’s right
mmmmmmmmmmm we need to see at least a small cutscene, TGC, please bless us with this

They used darkness as we use oil, gas or carbon, literally they contamine they self (like we do)
on the new quest, here’s one story I found very interesting
“Once upon a time there was a shimmering star. Every night it grew dimmer, until its light had almost faded from the skies. But before it completely disappeared, it split up into countless motes of light, gently descending to the ground below. From its echoes fluttered beautiful creatures of light. The end of one sparked the new life of another.”
I don’t think this is referring to all light creatures, as we know many of those came from the ocean. But this could be the explanation for where butterflies come from, as they’re the only creatures of light not based on an ocean creature.
This could also explain why butterflies come to us when we deep call, or fly alongside us: there’s a deeper connection there, because we both came from stars
Or maybe it’s the megabird, before she died she made all the light creatures to continue livening through this creatures and ascended to the megabird we know now
THATS THE STORY I TOLD BC IT MAKES ME FEEL A WAY, i do like the idea of it being specifically butterflies, especially with the wording of fluttered!
Plus potentially the connection of our flame and butterflies/light creatures in general with prairie elders scene
weeps, the creachurs
creachurs 
Cuz plus the butterflies we have birds, they also doesn’t come from the ocean
forgets about the birds I think in one sanctuary cutscene we see birds jumping in and out of the water, but i’d have to double check. the birds could also be stars yeah, both birds and butterflies show up in isle
"motes of light"
That sounds familiar to an old concept art where light creatures would carry motes, balls of light energy.
I wonder if this is trying to imply that light creatures were once meant to go about Sky to gather light and bring it back to Orbit?
And birds !
prairie elder beloved… they’re also the only elder that really interacts with the light with their hands and not a tool
Wait so we got
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And THEN we hit the aquatic creatures with the darkstone realm...
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Butterflies are the only creatures that seek you out to restore your light
Like they will follow you and restore it instead of doing their own thing
some mantas will actually do this too! very frustrating when you’re trying to lose light for a recharge quest
dropping this here
eden you see in prairie??? 
The view of the mountain from prairie
when you fly in, you can see the eden mountain
so, you're telling me that the building where you meet the first krill in gw COULD be the forest temple
Oh I'm pretty sure it's different realms are different places in different timelines
Tgc really seems to be about to take my entire lore theory and shatter it
same here
tgc pops in like "what lore??
That’s why I’ve had the theory that when Eden exploded time got displaced
Oh? That's actually a cool idea
The thought of Eden's explosion just shaking the balance of space and time is fun
No please don’t go the route of the Zelda lore you won’t be able to turn back 😭😭😭😭
Now time to rewrite my sky oc's lore 
(aka just replacing a few bits lolz)
Time is weird and funky. I don’t understand it :)
but imagine time being all over the place and you drop your bread and it get's teleported to another timeline heeheehoohoo and you go "oh no my bread fell into yesterday"
sky has a child timeline, an adult timeline and a downfall timeline confirmed /j
I would think that all these branches pretty much confirm isle used to be a bigger place. I’ve tested it myself and it takes only 6 minutes to run around the perimeter
Isle was probably a costal town, those things can be large or very small
TRUEEEEEEE, it could have been 
My idea is that Isle used to link to every part of the Sky realms
Like how the Hidden Forest area is like
Yeah, in the switch trailer, we don't see the sea when in Isle. It's possible that the entirety of the trailer takes place here even !
yeah, current isle is not big enough to march through the desert for days
So if you find the right gateway, you can easily travel on whatever flying companion you have to your destination
Takes some days but it won't be some months anymore
Maybe the ocean came after Eden went 💥
The wind paths?
Maybe, I mean like a lot of destruction happened and places went boom
OMG TRUEEE, MAYBE WIND PATHS USED TO BE FLOODED AND THEN THAT LEAKED INTO ISLE?
water levels definitely rose at some point in the past. a friend of mine also pointed out that the shore isn’t a very good place for a graveyard, and the isle graves probably weren’t right next to the water before
Oh ! Yeah ! Maybe the tiktok comment explains why some ancestors got graves but not seasonal ones ?
My idea is that while Isle used to be wayy bigger. maybe borneo size in comparison or so. there were wind paths that could take you anywhere in a manta boat or whatever gargantuan was in the switch trailer.
that was until perhaps the eden explosion shook not only time and space but also the gravity of things in general, including the moon (bear with me). so due to higher pull from the moon, the water level rose as well as the clouds condensing into water due to little stirrage of life
We do see the moon starting from the Wastelands...
We do??
So there is indeed an existence of the moon! Either it's gravitational pull got stronger, or it came closer due to the Eden explosion which I think is more likely
Edit: @rapid arrow in forgotten ark! above the clouds
Golden Wastelands - Forgotten Ark, look through holes in the clouds.
Vault of Knowledge - Starlight desert.
Eden - From the top of the giant pipe after the area with 2 krills, try looking into the hole in the clouds where the beam goes. Same for the stormlock area.
does anyone knows the whole sky cotl lore because i forgor the full lore of sky
Also in the dreams finale
Eden explosion
kaboom
time and space is funky
tgc destroyed my perception of the lore and im rebuilding it from the ground up
😀 ❔
Hold on, this actually could fit in with Aether's theory as well.... You guys know how the waters in Ark dropped last season and now they're all gone... Maybe when eden exploded ... It altered climates, maybe GW used to be a foresty or meadowy area that was once an ocean, over time sea levels dropped and eventually became a blossoming area that's why we see farms and stuff... But due to Eden's destruction, things destabilised and the nourished lands of GW dried up and became a warzone and a dried land. We do see water pools around the flight islands and the small bits of rock too.. so maybe.. some of the water was taken from the desolate land and taken through teh windpaths with those alternating climates? 
( I just thought of something else I'll add as well )
remember when I said this last night? yeah that other piece of evidence was that the isle was a desert when the trials were first completed
mmmm,,,,,, so rain in forest reduces our light yeah
how come the water there doesn't
Now my question is, if someone from Isle's timeline traveled to Eden while still in Isle's timeline, what would it look like? 
my theory: the work in progress castle for prince, soon-to-be king
Soo... Reefs (
)... Krills are underwater.... I have a feeling... Eden was once an ocean... And maybe had some land there too? Krills maybe once roamed vast oceans and as the explosion caused a total destabilising, that caused the oceans to vanish. I mean it would be reasonable to think this with how jagged the land is in eden... It's jagged and not as mountainous either, it's like a deep ocean trench in a way?
Linking to this, maybe GW was flooded as well, krills maybe we're passive along with crabs and as eden exploded those oceans drained and the wildlife and waters became corrupted with darkness, the plants also seemed to become poison to the land spreading across realms, however the elders gave their light to save some of the land so that it wouldn't all die off?
The powers of chopping a whole forest down and then production of power diamonds
bro i still dont know the whole lore of sky pls help
oo, this lines up with my thinking that the ark area was once mostly or completely underwater
nobody does
emo yummy fishy was too stunned to speak
Exactly, and how people realsied that the remaining water started to drain last season, now the caves are... Dry....
it’s weird, bc the sea levels went down in some areas in gw but went up in others, like abyss
WAIT I HAVE A QUESTION... so we all know valley of truiphm (whatever it is called) so the question is.. why the whole place is covered with sand?
it’s snow
the parts of sky that have the MOST water are currently:
- sanc islands
- treasure reef
- village of dreams (if you melt the snow n all)
- daylight caves
Exactly, however maybe the reefs of abyss were much further away though, maybe the two areas have no real connection at all besides a means of travel?
It’s snow!
But mostly because it’s in a cold region
Oh! Thats cool! I thought it was a sand
abyss intro does say the scavengers found a faraway island in the golden wasteland…
its confirmed to be snow with the existence of ice, ice skating, and snow particles in village of dreams!
Hmmm true.... But it seems a much distant area... Like shipwreck (or for those nerds "cRaB FieLdS") seems to be a dried area and yet there's an ocean however it's corrupted and dark.. so to me it's seeming that the reefs are MUCH further away than some may think
hm wait forgot to ask this. Was golden wasteland used to beautiful before the darkness came and ruined everything or it was always like that?
we don't know but assumedly so!
and then they industrialized stuff 
We can only assume so from Ark
Why would there be farms if there wasn't once nourished lands?
There’s a lot of theories. Some people thing the wasteland and valley are connected
we also have this from the animation teaser, left image is the relevant one
Does anyone have a full script of every possible line for today's quest?
Probably somewhere
🙇♀️🙇♀️.... Thanksss
i can't stop thinking about uncle high heels 

Oh shoot, well observed 👁️👁️
There were photos a bit back that showed connections being both the wasteland and the valley and the wasteland and the forest temple
first one is from here: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Oh trueee
Then again the gates at the start of GW and the end of Valley seems likely similar as they do lead on from one another? So it could just be worn away from the wind and sand particles
My theory about Wasteland is that while it was industrialized, that didn’t immediately equate to the absolute desolation we see in Wasteland. Pipes could be buried in dirt and could even have thriving, lush landscaping living on them. The bridges and walls could be strung with vines. If the broken pillar paths we see in the first area do indicate a civilization built by where the water leads to the lush plains that are irrigated by Valley’s melting snow, it could be almost tropical. That kind of climate would make sense given the fact that there’s the reef
Hold up guys, this is the wasteland, but not a single king statue on the buildings..
Probably destroyed by krills or just wore away due to the changing terrain and climate? 
🤔
Hmmmmm
No this takes place a long time ago.
oh good point, no turrets, no King Propaganda.
There is grass, so it had to be before it became a wasteland. So possibly before the King changed things
Maybe?
I didn’t know what a mote was at first , looked it up and
coincidence?
OH TRUEEEE!
AND it sorts links into the thing about the three spirits in boats?!!
This one^
Where is this?
mmmmmm orb,,,,, [CRONCH]
piggyback lightseekers cave in isle
They might be the first attempt at spells?
Where carry spirit is in Isle, there is a candle cake there as well. Most people tend to chibi in 👀
also, with all the prophets running around in isle, i think maybe this scene could’ve been predicted by this mural
Granted, this concept art looks very early, though it might be the precursor to the orbs of light we see in the game.
Both are orbs, both have great value. true enough Sky's orbs glow and the ones in the drawing look like jade, but here is the link.
Megabird takes in creatures that carry orbs, as seen in the water mural and other concept art.
These orbs of light are important as the ancestors took great care of them, put a lot of value on them, and the colours correlate with white/golden light being holy or sacred.
So, if these can be confirmed to be motes, then the lightseekers, the enchantment group, the spirits that took in these orbs, were working with MOTES.
@tender mural
Sk chldrn f th lght
Either that, or the child was walk 
Lore chat lore chat lore chat
Today's quest is like "choose your story"
And I accidentally led it to a series of events that explained the…
The cave of prophecies 
Same thing here
This proves that whoever the child is (either the prince or us, the Skykids) is the Chosen One
Yeah the first one to pass the trials! 
Does that imply there were none before them that could pass the test?
we have many trials ahead of us
This also shows that the Performance spirits know about the Prophecy, which probably means it wasn’t as hidden as I thought.
Wouldn't the residents of Sky learn about their history?
There seems to be a lot of emphasis on it… 
is there any specific lore behind eden?? asking for a friend out of server ^^
It exploded and causes mass destruction(?)
Had a look at Ecnhantment murals.
I wonder if the ancestors were taking fallen stars and doing some alchemy to turn them into an elemental orb?
Following the tiktok comment logic, it had to be after prophecy. If so, then the prophecy elements being stars is interesting.
As if the realms were using the prophecy elements, then they changed when Enchantment's elements were made.
Just spitballing here.
but why did it explode? like ehat caused it and why do we go there to give light back to everyone again and again?
do we know??
We don't have any idea, that's why this chat exists

Eden is a realm of chaos and darkness.
It is a place that has been theorised to have been the centre of the Storm, the centre of the corruption, ground zero at the top of the mountain.
Looking at the Little Prince, the place is either very windy, or cold (or both) as he was shivering when he was turned into stone.
I like to think the reason why it happened is because the Little Prince did not have any winged light to protect his body and soul. This may also be the case with the skykids, as they only turn into stone once they are out of Light.
Trueeee.... and he did come from a distant land as well, so like... Wings may not have acted the same with him 👁️👁️
ohhh okay!! tysm that really does explain a lil =]
I’ll answer this when I get out of class ^^
Get back to class, you don't Wana miss important information Aethy

I think the prophecy lights were naturally-occurring phenomena, the murals leading up to the prophecy cave show their great potential for destruction. The ancestors probably gathered the lights and left them guarded in the cave to prevent them from being misused. I think the enchantment lights were weaker versions of those elemental lights, artificially made later in the timeline, and with two new colors: red and purple (assuming the fire light is orange)
Time has passed and either the climate changed, or the land was being affected by the darkness.
You know how all the spirits are, well, spirits? A species who died ages ago and we are only now seeing glimpses of their memories?
Well what if why they all wear masks is because that was the death mask they were buried in?
Their souls are bound to their burial clothes so what we see is how they were buried?
(As for the vid showing the life of the spirits when they were living maybe it’s seen through the eyes of the Lights Children as they read the ancient stories so they see them how they know the spirits, in their burial masks)
I think they did wear the masks when they were alive, abyss spirits such as the Anxious Angler and Cackling Cannoneer both have damage to their masks through a dangerous lifestyle, plus the facepalm level 3 emote from the Baffled Botanist spirit physically moves the mask, and their memory takes place before they died
What if an ancestor used to be all white, but then lose their light in some way. Determined to keep what little light they have safe, they wear masks that help their eyes glow, as well as hide the shame they had of losing their light?
Just a though based on the ushering stargazer's memory showing a child being born from the stars, and the child is light, yet the ancestors are dark.
The skykids may be a similar case, though they are not the same as the ancestors. The masks are simply a part of their identity, not their position or status in society. While a skykid is not light, they become light when they meet their light half in the void, when they are enlightened.
Food for thought.
going from order of release?
Gratitude
Lightseekers
Belonging
Rhythm
Enchantment
Sanctuary
Prophecy
Dreams
Assembly
Little Prince
Flight
Abyss
Performance.
In order of their respective realms?
Gratitude (assuming they are based in home as the first season)
Prophecy
Sanctuary
Lightseekers
Belonging
Assembly
Flight (unless it goes to day for the day elder connection, then before Sanctuary)
Rhythm
Dreams
Performance
Enchantment
Abyss
Little Prince.
Ok hi I’m out of class
So Eden has the biggest power diamond, it requires so much light, that no manta or light creature could suffice. So this King having the most light and wanting his kingdom to thrive, sacrificing his light to the diamond. Now as time went on the king as per giving up his light became corrupted. Soon as all light was given the diamond imploded or exploded haven’t decided which one yet. That’s what I believed caused last destruction
Woahhh that's cool 
Thinking about it I feel maybe an implosion setting out a catastrophic shockwave may have caused the damage but you'd probably think an initial blast shock would have done the same too?
I think I've seen some theories about the ark made to counter the explosion? Is that right? I'm still confused about some parts of Sky's lore 
I’m pretty sure Ark was to escape the explosion, not counter it necessarily?
Just did the new quest what did I miss 
Feel free to ask the forgetful story teller.
Or have a look at the script a bunch of skykids have snagged from their desk.
(Credit to the Sky Infographic)
Dang I got the “beaming with pride” last message I got the least lore filled ending didn’t I
first time I did this I was aiming for a prophecy ending and I got a pointing candlemaker one. I went wild
It depends on if you think the seasons take place in the past or the present.
Naturally, what the spirits do with the skykid would have to be the present.
The premise/backstory for the spirits up to when the skykids join the season would theoretically be in the past.
Whether this was a time they were alive, dead, or dormant is up for debate.
what would be the best way to catch up on like realms/elders/gods lord is there a google docs or some direction i can be pointed in for someone wanting to get into sky lore more
@lime lava this can help you!
Nick??
This is pretty sweet! I had a lot of fun working on this quest. I specifically thought of you all!
A wild Dev appeared!
This is from a group of people that enjoyed the game and are kind enough to spend the effort to help other players.
Thank you, Nick for the wonderful work; and thanks to the staff and their parts in the game. ❤️

haha pokemon joke go brr
Don't thank ME, thank YOU for supporting Sky! Honestly you're what motivates me and the rest of the team to do our best. I'm pretty happy with how Season of Performance ended up and am glad we got to do some fun storytelling with this last quest!
It was super-effective, trust me. 😜
Sky has got to be one of the best mobile games I have ever played. No ads, great community, amazing lore, and meme potential.
Mobile game ads can get krilled.
especially the evony ones.
Now then, who wants to hear some nicknames for the krill in golden wasteland i made up?
The world of sky has a charm I hardly see in games.
I do see it though in the fun games of children playing pretend on a summer day in the park.
The adventure, the excitement, the heartfelt moments, the pasion and the whimsical nature of one's imagination being shared among friends.
Sky, no matter if it is the past or current version is amazing.
I am just glad that there is a story that ties everything together. One that continues to exist in places like this lore chat for so long.
From the jokes made to lighten the mood, to the in depth analysis of every nook and cranny.
From the creativity of players and their fan theories, to how much of the canon lore one can uncover if you know where to look and read in between the lines.
Me!
Also heylo, looks like I missed a Dev 
But I can barely keep my eyes open, so night night 
For the the first krill, Harold. Or maybe Shrimp. For the four krills in the Graveyard, Harry, Larry, Jerry and Terry. For the three at the Elder's temple, I call them the three amigos. get it? there's three of them!
Meeting a dev in lore chat must've been similar to the ancestors if they were to meet an elder in person.
Besides, we know that Nick is not the only dev lurking in the chat from the void.
You never know when I'll pop in again! Enjoy your night! ❤️
very true
Is there a compilation somewhere of all the spirit reveals TGC has done? Its really hard to find the more detailed information about the spirits wothout scrolling for days
You can look it up online, such as Twitter.
The furthest back you would get though is Season of Flight.
I just did the new performance quest and I am shook...... Like dude the implications 
Which story did you do? I think there are different story paths
I read all the prompts lol.... Like evErYtHinG...

Do you think the path/stories are actually stories?
Sense most of story telling are myths of stuff that happen or peoples way of explain stuff?
Oh my god... For the companion path, with the elder, I thought the skid was just lonely, and the elder becomes that companion. BUT having the elder be radiant ends with the child learning the fate of the companion. They're looking for a specific person in that version. I wonder if it's the king. I wonder if the skids are friends with the king, and keep going to Eden to try to save them, and that's why it's an endless cycle. So close yet so far, when their friend is no longer there to be saved (or at least in a way they can be)
Also, I like that the skids have the option to tell their story. The other companion scenario is just them going 'this happened to me'
Yeah. That would make sense
At first I didn't "get" this quest, then I played it again, and I saw a different story, then I played it again.
This is now officially my most played seasonal quest and certainly most thought provoking.
Now I love it ❤️
Their are so many paths to this story, they me about the lonely child, and another about the star
Getting adopted by the candle maker family
Like yes, thank u TGC for enabling my 'all the spirits want to adopt us' nonsense
Rookie mistake: chose the Approachable and Nice Cave over the EVIL AND FOREBODING CAVE
THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT GETS ME BECAUSE IT IMPLIES THAT THE FOUR FIGURES ARE IMPORTSNT ENOUGH TO HAVE A DESTINY OR SOEMTHIHG. WHO ARE THEY. THE ONLY THING INCAN THINK OF IS 
THIS IS ANOTHER QUESTION THATS BEEN GETTING TO ME. WHO IS THE CONPANION. YOUR EXPLANATION MAKES MORE SENSE THAN ANYTHING I CAN THINK OF
WERE WE CREATED TO BE THEIR COMPANION OR WERE WE ALREADY ONE AND GOT REBORN??? SO MANUQ EUSTIONS
Wait can I play the seasonal quest from today more than once???
OOOOHHH THE ORBS BEING MOTES WOULD BE SO COOL AND MAKE SENS
Both quests so far have had portals. I think they're all gonna be replayable. Which would make sense. You can put on more than one performance irl
yesssss
Now to play it a million times and do all the options
further adding on to my maybe theory about the whole king thing happening comparatively late in the timeline AFTER things started going bad. like, it was their job to fix it kind of thing
yeah essentially. If anyone wants to know about how lorechat works this is how
side note:
There are a ton of devs online at the moment. 
Wonder what they are up to?
Secret Dev meeting
I’m easily drawn to nice caves 💔
judging the caves by their cover I see. You fell for the pro Candlemaker cave propaganda 💔
Propaganda my foot, accept your adoption u feral gremlin. Become a house cat
Considering there is a child in candle maker's memory, and the prompt says 'a couple' of candlemakers, I wonder if our skid is telling that child's story
No. What I’m saying is. Why can’t we be adopted by the EVIL cave people. Judging a cave simply by its description in a play is wrong and bad, and the pro candlemaker description is propaganda /j
you can be adopted by the evil cave people but they'll make you do deadly trials
ok. fair,
is there like a good cave people? we have neutral and evil so far. we need like a cave people alignment chart
are the candlemakers not the good cave people?
It says unassuming cave. I don’t know whether to interpret it as evil or it
Some of these stories definitely give the vibes that our skid is not telling a tale, but actually letting the Performance crew tell their story, or stories they've specifically learned while on their journey.
If our skid has done prophecy, they probably got told more about it by the guide than we get by murals. The candlemaker could have told their story to the skid. The elder is straight up just our story. etc
Yeah I vote the second one!! (Stories we’ve learned) Some of these do Not sound like what we’ve personally experienced at all, and sound like they have different people as their main characters
you start the quest by meditating next to the directors chair/narrators chair whatever it's called, which is made of memory cubes
No, I meant both happened. The stories our kid have learned are still ours because we've learned them during our experiences
I misread it… I thought you meant the performance crew was the main characters of one of the stories. I get what you mean now
Hello, if anyone needs something specific ilustrated for a theory I don’t mind drawing it, bye.
The game does say we gotta help the Forgetful Storyteller to write a story on the Isle of Dawn...
Okay so I have a question. So a while ago we were having a discussion here about the meditation circles. One of the theories we were discussing is that these circles bring you into a dream like state. Basically what your seeing is not reality. For example: the platforms in the vault that bring you up through it, or the circles we sit in to do our meditation. And my question is; does that mean that since we take portals to go to the home area, when we are there we are in a dream like state? 
Thoughts so far:
Good cave people: pointing candlemaker and friends, piggyback lightseeker, prairie cave spirits
Neutral cave people: vault of knowledge
Evil cave people: prophets
there's also piggyback lightseeker and the spirits in the prairie caves
I feel like those would both fall under good cave people
It’s not a person, but I’m debating adding the wind paths WL to evil cave people because it’s such a pain to get
wind paths shiny boi is absolutely an evil cave person
Cave People Aligment Chart:
Lawful Good: piggyback Lightseeker
Neutral Good: candlemaker and friends
Chaotic Good: jellyfish whisperer
Lawful Neutral: every vault spirit
True Neutral: chilling sunbather, indifferent alchemist
Chaotic Neutral: hide and seek pioneer, crab walker
Lawful Evil: cave of prophecies
Neutral Evil:
Chaotic Evil: wind paths WL
Why are the prophets evil 
prophecies is lawful evil
their cave was assigned EVIL AND FOREBODING by performance quests. (they are not evil but the cafe is)
What about Crabwalker & Alchemist caves?
They are cave people but I don’t think they’re evil. I’d put them in true and chaotic neutral respectively
I’ve always thought the companion was simply a representation of a random Skykid just like them. If Skykids are retelling stories, then it would make sense to include the multiplayer aspect as well.
It depends on what route you take. Getting candled by a stranger who may become a friend but is definitely a guardian seems to be the multiplayer route
Prophecy Cafe! Get your amazing Shadow Coffee right now! 2% chance of death
Imma drop this here after doing the new performance quest, I find it super interesting so here’s my take on it. (Sorry for any grammar mistakes I gtg soon)
The one about the falling star and the lonely child makes it feel like our skykid can tell the stories that we have learned, though it might not be 100% true.
As all stories face aginst time and are retold some details are bound to be changed, or be forgotten. Maybe this is why we have the option to choose between the two dialogue choices, because even our skykid is not entirely sure what happened either, we get murals and hints like prophecy but to our skykid how don’t have acess to the internet they’re probably there wondering and trying to piece everything together on their own.
Ofcorse the quest was to help forgetful storyteller write a story about the isle of dawn, not exactly retelling a moment of history that happened, so I also think our skykid is just having a good ol time writing a play
Tl;dr skykid having fun writing a play by throwing lil things that they picked up over time
they do say 'write what you know' so it could be both
On another note: I realized that the multiplayer option calls the person a 'guardian' lmao is it moth adoption ending?
"the cafe"
The stories do seem to include the multiplayer aspect (a stranger coming to help us with a candle) but I don’t think the companion is. This is because we learn their fate, and it seems like we’re looking for a specific one. The stranger we find isn’t mentionedas the companion and. With them being our friend constellation it lines up…
Oo yeah that’s true 
help write a story?
Interesting, so it is partly a retelling of the past from the story teller, and the skykid filling in the blanks?
Sounds about right when it comes to sky lore. 😄
cafe of prophecies? I guess we finally found out where the tea parties are held
I think 'looking for a companion' changes depending on what option you pick. In the 'strong elder' ending you learn their fate, but I think in the other endings the child is lonely and looking for any friend.
I think this isn't one story with multiple choices, but many different stories
Cafe of Prophecies is where Fire Prophet hid last year.
"welcome to Mug and Lore Beans, how may I server you?"
of
Let's go to StarBucks for candles and a light meal.
Haha light meal get it
That’s what I think too!! The fact that there’s a companion ending that does seem to describe what you’ve mentioned earlier is really interesting to me. It seems too important on that specific path to just be a random guy
I demand a strawberry pastry!
Season of prophecy coffee shop au?
Betcha the Twins would be all over it with the steamers and Coffee grinders.
I mean, there’s probably one form of predicting the future that relies on latte art or something
Someone better make the forest elder the mascot of the SkyBucks logo, or I will. 
Tea leaves. It's tea leaves 
YEAH LIKE THAT BUT A COFFEE VERSION
coffee grinds
"hey, why is there a bean in my coffee cup?"
Gets Krilled right outside of the shop.
I need it
Y'all are sleeping on Prophecy VS Performance rivals play AU
(Actually, them meeting and getting along would be nice)
Enemies to lovers ?
Fire Prophet has a lover already
BEAUTIFUL. this will be part of the coffee shop Au as wel. Like. One of the performance spirits visits the cafe and it snowballs from there…
Fanfic parody, after sold to the valley elders, Prophecy×Performance coffeeshop AU enemies to lovers
one of the prophets falls in love with performance guide but because of costumes they don’t realize they’re also their rival actor. Drama ensues
BLESS
you could even have a love square like that ladybug show
this is happening in the background of the valley eldars fic as a B plot
My only question is who would write this in universe
Modest Dancer
Forgetful Storyteller
Air Prophet
Yeah like… the dreams skater (author of original fic) learns that mellow musician used to have ties with rhythm. So they write their character as helping sort this issue out for their friend and then using it to get closer to the rhythm spirits somehow
my heart is telling me that if dreams skater wasn’t already the writer this answer would be correct. Maybe modest dancer is the fic editor or something
they're doing a colab
They're both writing separate fics but keep mentioning the other's so both plots are the other fics B plot
Ok so like here are the dynamics
Dreams skater & confetti cousin: write the fanfic together.
Modest dancer: supposed to be editor, does not help with grammar. Instead sneaks subplots about people they have crushes on into the story, when the other two realize massive dramatic fallout happens
Why can't they just all enable each other like little fanfic goblins
We need it to be like my immortal where the drama seeps into the actual story. Eventually they allow modest dancer back into the group only to get efen more angry when the same thing happens again and being dramatic teenagers
Forgetful Storyteller is a regular commenter
I've never actually read my immortal the heck happened
when the fallout with modest dancer happens they comment like “I have enjoyed this fic ever since it came out, but I can’t believe you’d do this to the editor. Their subplots were so good and you just don’t appreciate them. I will never leave another comment here again”
This entire scenario is so funny because it’s completely feasible in universe
unironically I've always imagined the spirit tea parties in prophecy
they had to put it there bc prophecy guide is too tall to leave the cave without hitting their head
If I get a candle for every time I see this I’ll be stinking rich
@keen shore
Help me
I should never have let you out of those pipes
The person who falls for performance guide but they don't recognize each other because costume needs to be Prophecy guide. The fact that they're a giant and neither connecting the dots is just too funny
You're just jealous because Crab Whisperer is my roomate and not yours.
You know what? I understand crabs now. I understand why they’re so angry and attack everything,
Foaming at the mouth rn
not for long…
also… how???
it's fine, child. it happens 🫂
Asked the memes chat, does anyone have the lore iceberg?
No It melted 💔

that's why the sea levels went up 💔
global warming 😔
hmm, performance guide has a star in-game, but not in the art that appears in the season pass menu thingie
stars on capes might be a glitch
(that pic of performance guide standing alone in the snow is very powerful to me and it always gets me)
Oh hey, that's me !
They collected us like a WL
That's the number of children they adopted
OMG performance guide? I’m a big fan :0 /j
That or it was added afterward.
It is though odd to see spirit with stars on their capes tbh. Especially with no reason given.
I WISH I HAD PERFORMANCE GUIDE'S GENDER
i’d send a bug report just in case but it takes so long, i still haven’t reported that daily quest typo
I wish they'd fix the tea table bug. I wanna hug my friends, not look at my table
I can tell this by your shared memory candles it is not new information

payback for timelinepicturing me
O:
they're gonna cheese u again
and there it is
I Have Preoared for this
A plot twist?!
I have been waiting to see this XD
Get back in ur prison cell
no u
WHY DID SPADE SAY SEALED XD and how did you get vela there-
sealed
I’m going to do this to you tonight while you’re sleeping
A true plot twist!
I have so many questions-
I didn't send all the pics so get exposed instead
vela get back in the tube
Yeah and? What did I say here that is exposing me? Exactly. Your feeble attempt at blackmail has fallen short
NOOO MODS THEY ARE TUBING ME LIKE THE CRAB
Canned Veal
how do you replay it??? I want to SO BAD
Mmm… time to make some tasty pasta!
Oml- this is the reality of Lorechat
@nimble ingot Hello sky adventurer ^^ no longer tired :D!
WRONG INGREDIENT
USE SPADE INSTEAD
Not for a bit.
Still got work to do. 👍
:0 BETRAYING YOUR FRIEND LIKE THIS. EVIL EVIL EVIL
Seasoning you with oregano.
Oh
Hope tired adventurer will go away soon- in the meantime you can entertain yourself with the pasta making in the background ^^
forcibly seasons you with oregano
[pours pasta sauce on your head]
Head out the area and back in, then sit at the same spot behind the stage. I found it faster to home, return
[eats it as it pours]
Vela is in jail. Like this picture to put more things on top of their prison and trap them further. Reblog to set them free and cause the apocalypse
Vela, you can’t set yourself free, that’s not how it works
Quitter mentality.
this is what we call kids... chaos-
and just how it started the pasta making holiday mall activities has finished-
Yep
WHEEZES
Pretty much yes. Sums it up well
"It was a great day here at the free mall activities, two kids tried to make pasta with themselves ^^ these kids have a bright future ahead"- the creb whisperer reporter
SCP reporting on SCP, we love that
I had to go clean up a spill what on earth is happening
I call crab whisperer weird for teleporting out of reality and levitating, meanwhile I am imprisoning my friends inside of pipes and putting tables on them. Hypocrisy
was the spill pasta sauce ?
The holiday activities have ended and your pasta will be right here [bowl with salem and vela in it]....well interesting pasta you made-
no
don't u just sit in the glowing portal again?
ah, pasta
you can replay performance quests at any time by sitting in the meditation circle you used the first time! (for each quest)
bobbit-
I got the “fading star dies but it splits into motes which create new creatures” story. I like that it kind of proves that all light cycles through the world, each light a piece of Megabird that falls to the ground in the form of a creature of light. When that creature “dies,” the light simply returns to Megabird and becomes new creatures. At least that’s how I interpret it.
Hold up…. “the first to succeed.” Does this mean that the “silent child” is the king?
could've been. with the introduction of multiple children I'm not 100% sure who's who
Yeah same, but the main character child might be….. now the question is if it’s the same character in each storyline, because if it is… we could potentially learn a lot about the king…..
PROBABLU. Which leads to a headcanon that I’ve been sitting on for like a month almsot of them being mute
(I’m not sure what to tell? I mean all the evidence is right there. How do I describe this more)
pointing candlemaker canonically adopted some random desert child what a king
(how it leads to that hc because my interest is piqued)
The alternate way you could interpret it is that they’d never had any contact with People before that point and didn’t talk bc they didn’t know what words were
Wait which version of the quests are you talking about?
I love candlemaker so much. This doesn’t surprise me at all, they have massive dad energy — probably saw an unattended child and went “My Time Has Come”
The one you got and just posted abt! With the cave of propencies :-)
my interpretation of the quests is that both of the candlemakers were fallen children themselves and so they saw some kid going through the same thing and immediately adopted them
I’m not following, I’m very sorry- how does it connect? Quotes?
here where they are described as the silent child :-)
I interpreted it this way bc we tell the story out loud and storyteller has to hear us, because then they successfully complete their act afterwards
Ohhh for clarification am talking about the king not us :3
So this potentially confirms that the kid in candlemaker’s stargazer’s memory is the king? And that they’re a Sky kid too?
the kid in stargazer's memory is most likely the king
Oh that’s what I meant sorry. I’m not super familiar with that bit of lore.
I mean maybe, but I interpret them being separate kids. Like each path in the story is a different person
yeah I have no idea who's who I've just been sitting here staring off into space like omg... candlemaker lore...
oh fhen YES!!! although tbf has been accepted as probablu csnon for a while now
Ik it has, but the more evidence the better!
do u think maybe stargazer is one of the figures mentioned in the stories? idr which path specifically
I wish I could efficiently play out all possible stories. But going home and back to reopen the quest is a bit of a pain.
Maelstrom compiled a list of the different storylines if you'd rather not play each of them yourself #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Prophecy guide has one of these too!
TY
Goodbye I’m going to go read those
so do dream animal mask spirits, sassy drifter, leaping dancer and a few other animal masks i didnt check 
sassy drifter's looks painted on, I'm talking about spirit masks that glow. but most of them have some type of diamond shape on them
For anyone that’s was curious about the other storylines in the 2nd quest I found this sheet made by the Sky cotl infographic database discord, looking at all four of them it seems like the falling star and the lonely child possibly connect 
all the base game masks have a little glowy thing on their forehead, with the exception of waving bellmaker's, there's a white diamond but it doesn't glow
not to be extra with lore chat screenshots but. prophecy mask. definitely glows
I have a theory that may have been proven with this quest.
I think that, while spirits/ancestors are completely incapable of speech. Sky kids are capable of speech, and that speech ismade with honks.
Let's discuss this... thing. Early concept of Dark Dragons.
Spirits honk at us :+) all the whisperer spirits do it in their memories, plus manta whisperer if you greet them outside the Stage, and belonging ancestor does as well when they come to give us food
If these were the Dark Dragons today, how would they be able to detect a player? Noticing they don't appear to have eyes, my theory is that the player would probably need to use their call as part of the objective in a realm.
#completed-sky-fanart-and-creations message
Told you I would draw it:
Forest elder SkyBucks
The beta dark dragon reminds me of that one worm from spongebob
I wonder if their diamond glowing like ours means anything? Or if it’s just a fancy addition
forgetful storyteller makes light creature calls during the 2nd quest when they are on stage !
Imagine how much more terrifying these things would be?
I do wish there were more creatures, and the beta dark dragon would be amazing
Every story teller would try to use voices.
Not all of them have to be good.
Storyteller though can do voices 👍
Waving bell maker’s diamond is actually more orangish(probably a lot more orange in daylight) and matches the orange color of the eyes and othe base game mask diamonds. I think it might be meant to show its for decor or spmething of the sort.
You know that meme about speaking in a horse accent? Forgetful storyteller
See all those hairs? They’re probably quite sensitive.
default, bellmaker, and scarecrow masks. only the default mask is actually glowing
Ah, I guess I didn’t think that. (And in all honesty the original theory was that the spirits/ancestors could too but I forgot those other bits of evidence and story teller never honked, but thats besides the point, everythings been solved now.)
I think originally, even if there were no plans yet established on how the early concept Dark Dragons could detect and attack a player, just by looking at the early sketches, it seems as though the first concept that comes to mind about how they could detect and attack a player is through their hearing instead of their eyes, seeing as they have none.
Could you imagine needing to stay more quiet the closer you are to these things to the point where you'd need to stop moving entirely?
Yes, but how would the hairs contribute to them noticing and attacking a player?
They also appear to have moved around inside the clouds.
jumpscare
I don’t know, it was just a thought I had.
Yeah, Golden Wasteland would be far more scary to traverse. Just thinking... when you enter the Broken Temple, imagine the place is dark, but not too dark. You see the first Dark Dragon that looks exactly like the early sketches, and the manta in there is making loud calls, drawing the Dark Dragon to its location and eventually attacking it.
Ho boy...
IT WAS AN ALASKAN BULL WORM
Has anyone spoken about those golden pots we see in forest, sanctuary and abyss yet? I have a theory but i wanna make sure it wasnt already said
I don’t believe so.
Then you go into Graveyard, and see a bunch of these things too. Just imagine a few of those things getting close to you to the point where you could literally not move at all until they flew away.
Imagine skykid hiding behind them for protection, just for the spirit to leap behind them.
skykid: excuse me, they asked for no pickles
im just imagining the creature calls being like accents since the card says they are good at it
I don’t think they’ed fit actually. They’re FAR bigger than krill. And probably lived inside clouds.
Golden Wasteland's Graveyard would be much bigger than it is, then if these early Dark Dragons existed instead. And more expansive.
TGC trying to make an area for the creepy dark dragons to live: “It’s about to melt my iPhone 12, but I think it’ll do.”
I totally didnt forget the fancy paragraph i had in my head uhhh
I feel like if the early Dark Dragons used hearing to attack, it would be so much harder to avoid them because unlike the ones we have now, you could not tell you were spotted or not, unless there would be some kind of visual cue that the early concept Dark Dragons made when alerted to noises.
So the golden pots, they seem to be powered by the power diamonds or vice versa
And we see that on the manta light absorbation stuff
So with the two combined, does the diamond absorb the light/energy?
It shot a disco like spot light out of its mouth, somehow aimed right at you./j
Imagine instead of being Metal Gear Solid with the krills, it was more "red light, green light" with those early concept ones. This would actually make the experience so much more fun and terrifying.
AND IF SO
does that mean the abyss crew is trying to make those light catcher things? They have golden pots and are scavenging for diamonds
Thinking about Dawn...
I feel the tall figure in the temple mentioned here is Isle Elder.
I ABREE WITH THIS yes
daleth... beloved
Yeah same here
I think this storyline is a case of our skykid telling their own story. matches with what happens in the isle elder cutscene
With the storyline you have to select the silent child option so tecinally that means our skykid sees isle elder as a companion/friend
isle elder is my friend... sobbing
Aaaa would this apply to the other elders too? Our skykid seeing all the elders as their friends?
what I find interesting is the line "together they would reunite the stars." if the child here is the skid, then they're accrediting more to Isle Elder. Isle Elder is stuck in their pocket dimension, only appearing elsewhere in Orbit after completing their constellation. at most, they create/summon the bird path that leads them throughout the world to Eden. personally I don't find it much toward "reuniting the stars," but it is helpful, especially to a new skykid.
I think it relates more to how the skid(s) view Isle Elder on an emotional level rather than a practical one. viewing Isle Elder as a friend, a companion along for the journey, even if they're physically apart.
tgc when can i hold isle elders hand
Ty for this imma sob at this and hold this close /hj
even more heartfelt considering that Isle Elder, during the (latter end of) the kingdom's era, wasn't viewed so well among the other Elders according to that slideshow quip. instead, Isle Elder finds favor back with the skykids and perhaps through the Megabird for sticking with their values (to the Light rather than darkstone)
What if a "voice" (subtitles) in Isle cut scenes belong to Isle Elder?
oh now i want that to be true. so badly. running to tgc to make that canon
isle elder…
Also, Candlemaker is usually the first spirit Skykids relive, so it’s likely they hold them to a higher regard than others?
candlemaker and voyager are the favorite children of the isle (sorry stargazer)
Don’t forget prophets
I do think that if one of the isle spirits was held to a higher regard, it was rejecting voyager, us reliving candlemaker first seems to be coincidence
How so? I’m not too familiar with voyager
not a dev but i can help
skids definitely go to Dawn for advice
theory that the spirits who wear the same masks as their realm elder were closer to them. Voyager’s memory also includes them protecting murals of daleth from a spirit looking to mine materials underneath the temple. And they show up in piggyback lightseekers memory, helping them to try and restore the light (that last bit is my own interpretation)
This theory is one I believe in too, because we got levitating adept being a magician, fainting warrior being a soldier and exhausted dock worker being responsible for boats that carry pots
and then we get to apologetic lumberjack
forest elder HATES trees
I didnt realise the quests could be replayed. You have to go home and back to Theatre?
proof the lorax doesnt exist in sky
Ok. Hear me out. Bright orange and pro environmentalism? Hates the destruction of the environment and speaks out against it? Tinkering chimesmith is Sky Lorax
arent sky kids themselves associated with orange and restoring the light tho 
Shhhhhh….
Skykids give off a yellowish glow
salem, theres mustache masks
WE are the lorax
Guess who loves nature and has a beard… 
not orange enough
orange you glad I didn't say 
If the theory that the Elders are in grayscale cos they don’t have enough light to illuminate themselves in color, maybe Dawn’s clothes were orange 
<3 <3 <3 FRIEND
My cute headcanon will NOT be co-opted for Lorax purposes this is illegal /j
who loves animals and nature, has a large mustache, and ends up in the ruins of a once beautiful natural landscape? That’s right, pleaful parent is the lorax
this is why i'd probably be banned from the wind paths
CAN I SAVE THIS IMAGE
Okay but in all seriousness. I can kind of see that because of the whole orange being a sacred color thing, and it’s a headcanon [I just call it one because I mean… what evidence would we be able to find to support it?] that makes me very happy because. you cannot look at the valleu elders and tell me they would accept looking that boring constantly
IM SOBBING WHY THE BREAD
Wonder bread oml
SPADE NO WAY
TETH ONCELER TETH ONCELER
oh I just… noticed the bread… ☹️ vela…
They would be the ones to just wear an amalgamation of flags to pride as their clothing
im not sure which is worse, a mod seeing this or a dev seeing this
THE BREAD WHHWHWHH
psychic damage
hm huh what
how am I supposed to explain the reasoning behind the wonder bread in this server.
I’m sure some mods or devs are on tumblr
you dont know wonder bread ???
i am… vaguely aware
Dev. And they make it cannon. Actually, that is the best-case scenario and i would cry with joy.
You can tell who in this conversation Knows and who doesn’t with ease
SCREAMING
YOU'RE RIGHT
Keep it that way Bird
i just didn’t know what it had to do with the oncel-
oh
it's... best left unexplained.
I'm going outside, I can't handle this
Let me guess: wonder bread is cheaply made and a sign of industrialization, which fits with the in onceler?
Please I want to know
Only sort of related, but whenever we bully an elder why is it always forest. What did they do specifically to incur our wrath
was confused by the “spade no way”
the Snatch
obligatory Forest Elder is a furry
PLEASE eleborare. Like… snatching gender?
the cutscene but... works with gender too
they’re a little silly. a little wacky
oh my god how did I forget about the cutscene.
The Lorax converted us to their side, that’s why.
They can’t snatch our gender because Sky kids have none. The only creatures in Sky with genders are Oreo and the Office Cat.
Forest Elder baking bread
like actual bread or like what cats do
HELP
The context of this message will make me decide whether or not I will support it. Is it related to the Bread above? Then no. Is it about actual bread, or about cats making biscuits? Then I will support wholeheartedly
addendum: Forest Elder kneads the bread and Wasteland Elder bakes it
velas cursed this chat tonight
Ok yes but also Tsadi baking bread is better. Forest elder would try to make it and then get frustrated halfway through and literally throw it out the window screaming bloody murder.
Welcome to breadchat
baby i am the curse
they bake bread together
Counterpoint: Bread is extremely easy to make and forest elder is probably super patient if their entire Thing is crafting and making stuff. They would love bread
i am going to bake you into bread
curse this bread
VELA IM LOSING IT
consider this: prairie elder being good at making bread because their whole thing is agriculture
Countercounterpoint: this is the first craft-related thing they’re bad at and they’re a complete perfectionist so this makes them very upset. As revenge, they swear to never eat bread again.
ok fair I can understand that reaction (me with ceramics)
who is the worst baker in all the realms and why is it the gloat spirit from sotlp
You think they make their own food?
currently? would they have a choice in the matter?
but in the past no ofc not
wasnt sparkler mom ts hint saying the cookies arent that good
</3
wait which TS was the second one, Fire Proph ?
interesting how Ash is referring to them as sparkler spirit instead of sparkler parent
Ash: Sparkler Parent’s cooking, my beloathed
It was rallying thrillseeker I think
OH I FORGOT THEY CAME AS A TS TWICE
rally confirmed for not being a picky eater
I know I do 🥲

if the muffins are mediocre i’d eat them. but if they’re bad then no
Rallying Thrillseeker would eat Sparkler Parent’s baking when no one else would.
Oh btw what's the ts hint this week 👀 do we know or r we talking about last year
i think the fruity spirit from TLP would only be good at making crepes because he's used to moving fast to pose for pictures
rallying thrillseeker would eat from a garbage can
AFAIK there’s been one: likes to decorate
these r previous ones but this weeks Ts hint is that they like to decorate!
i hope it assembly ts, dreams and assembly back to back would be hilarious
can you imagine if it was scaredy cadet
sassy 4
If it's the one with the guitar from belonging I'm going to
bc I'm broke and I desperately need that guitar
CADET BELOVED BEST MUSIC SHEET
Strong desire for green butterfly cape. If so, I’m gonna be officially poor.
sassy four for pc port be patient
also omg cadet pls, hammock <3
hammock at sunset is so nice
I’m excited to ask about this spirits fursona,
It took them this long to bring us a dreams ts... I'm not expecting assembly ts's anytime soon 💀
Sorry to distract a bit, but can I find any statement/info about the spirits using they/them pronouns? 
Idk about the spirits but the quest today used they/them for the silent child.... Exclusively iirc
every spirit is referred to with they/them pronouns in the game. the devs have said before that our skykids do not have gender and the ancestors don’t have gender as we know it
Every single time tgc refers to the spirits or elders, they always use they/them. I don’t think there’s an official statement beyond them being all genderless (which is confirmed)
Not to cause any sad-ist ptsd but what a wonderful world
.... Having grown up in a very different environment, I'm just glad to hear pronouns being respected and gender non-conformance not being looked down on for once 🥲

All beings in Sky are genderless. Many nonbinary people use they/them pronouns to emphasize that they are nonbinary (though they can use other pronouns). Since agender falls under the nonbinary umbrella, the spirits are referred to by they/them
Valley elders salt and peppar your wonder bread
dont be too loud, i dont want to get a slap on the wrists from the mods 
(thank you
)
Loud and clear!
Extremely cursed combo
Moths coming in here thinking there are spoilers for the lore, cause there must be actual lore somewhere, and finding us being nonsensically pumped about caveman drawing 
Tiktok TGC gets slandered by youtube TGC
Wait, I just finished reading everything here so far, and
You can relive second performance quest?
idk it felt more like the usual "feel free to imagine whatever you want :)" to avoid having to elaborate too much
HAHA they got called out lolll
Ok, I just want matpat to try to make a game theory with sky lore, cause oh boy
Cause this lore, so complex but with only breadcrumbs
Sky lore is like a house of onion slices. If you peel back one layer, there is a risk of it all falling down
Tbh that’s how I see this unraveling — they’re not gonna clarify what they meant by that comment or if they do, they’re just gonna “the lore is open to interpretation” on us. Nevermind that blokes are gonna be coming in here with a screenshot of that comment like they have for the past couple days all “you see! There are multiple timelines! Dev said so on a TikTok!” even if the lot of us explain how it doesn’t make sense or rather how it makes things even more complicated.
Curse TikTok
You can replay it as much as you'd like, yes. 
oh my actual god
Dev statements on the matter
I didnt screen it but I clarified I was not asking for less lore as someone thought, but that a complaint in lore chat was that we gotta dig through youtube, discord, twitter, tiktok and whatnot to get crumbs, which gets really exhausting and confusing.
Wait… someone thought you were asking for LESS lore??? Is it even possible to have less confirmed lore for this game and still have it exist?
I tried scrolling backwards but could not find the discussion about the tiktok quote. Is there a SparkNotes version of it that I could hear? 
Yea that’s the thing — we shouldn’t have to be playing archeology all over social media for canon information that should be present in game.
I didn't read it as you asking for less lore. 
what confirmed lore ???
There could always be less lore. We could find out that it was all a dream or something ridiculous like that
My thoughts on the whole TikTok comment natter
alasdair you dropped this 👑
Do you not agree with the different timelines, or is this about TGC sharing this information on tiktok and not in a blog, or in the game of some kind? I apologize, I am a bit confused, I think I missed some conversation that I can't find. 
I can totally see this happening and it infuriates me. It’s such a simple yes or no question. Like, if they’re avoiding answering because we shouldn’t know that information, why did they post it on tiktok in the first place???
We are the authors of the lore bible. It makes sense to erase this fact from it 
I think getting upset at the person on the Tiktok for sharing a lore fact is a little excessive, but I do hope it means we can get more content shared in an official way. 
It doesn’t matter what’s technically canon if we speak so loudly over the 3 crumbs we are given that no one can tell the difference
The more we talk about this, the more tempted I am to come up with a reasonable multi-timeline system 
What would you propose? 
pls dont /nm
I desperately want to write a lore Bible 
We're not getting upset, it's just such a huge bomb to drop on tiktok comments of all places, and it kinda turns what we know on its head so we're puzzled it didnt get more fanfare
TGC if u want us to work every lore crumb into our theories then pls give us more than crumbs. Actually loaves of bread that aren’t conflicting or terribly vague would be great.
it also highlights the problem of sky lore being scattered across all social media platforms, which is a pretty tiring and unrewarding scavenger hunt
Ah, I see! I wonder if it's more of a common knowledge to TGC devs that they didn't think it would be a big deal? 
TGC bake sale when
I hate that I could see multiple timelines being a thing but only in the age of skykids and not before. However. It’s like the most tinfoil hat explanation that could possibly exist — all the stuff it would explain is so much more easily and logically explained by game mechanics
I've dedicated a year of my life to being a sky anthropologist and I'm going insane so yes please more 
It makes its way back to lore chat eventually at least.
I would love to see another lore blog, or a series of posts like the old concept threads on twitter they did for the first anniversary.
The possibility of this fills me with rage
i would go beast mode if sky was just a dream
I would just like pass out
The thing is, it shouldn’t have to make its way back to us, a chat platform outside of the game. It should be in the game in the first place.
Ik! Maybe we’d mind the disparate scattering of crumbs SLIGHTLY less if the crumbs weren’t so small and vague. If they actually helped us piece things together!
Ideal scenario is they continue to put the lore IN THE ACTUAL GAME like they did with this quest! That way every player can access it, and it’s built into the world so that it feels relevant and real.
If they go “it’s all a dream” imma post that reaction image every time somebody pops in lorechat saying so
That may not be TGC's style, if you look at their past games, Sky is the 'wordiest' game they have. They may be trying to harmonize between the TGC game style and lore hungry players.
I think if it became canon that Sky was just a dream I would leave altogether
I would cry
Ideally with a game like this, players would expect small lore hints every new release or smthn... Not like a crumb every millenia 
You can put lore into the game without it having to be written. Murals are a great example, as are showing things through clues like different architecture styles, cutscenes, etc
that wouldn't happen, nothing is canon here
We've gotten more lore heavy seasons as time goes on, so I think there's an optimistic chance we may see more as time goes on. And there is that mysterious animation project as well that we don't know much about yet. 
Yeah, like, a huge chunk of the community isnt even on discord, I have access only to tumblr and twitter, and only a few of my friends are on tiktok, so it's near impossible to get the complete picture without following tgc on every platform
can we go back to putting lore in the game
You don’t even need to have text to spill lore and tell a story. We got the murals, for instance, spirit memories and cutscenes. Even environmental storytelling is powerful
RIP i wish i could argue with u
Lore chat during Prophecy was angry that TGC didn't provide them with lore, just murals. 
It's like a massive multi year long escape room 
there's no escaping the lore room
Oh sheesh that’s the opposite of what lorechat was like when we got the Abyss murals
This!!! We shouldn’t need to be on social media platforms to know the lore.
However. I will say something. As someone who’s been playing Sky for a while, I’ve noticed that roughly from the start of abyss, the lore has started to both be more obvious and still be seamlessly woven into the game. The abyss murals are a great example of this, along with the crew being scavengers, implying that they’re struggling to survive, and so on. It’s a trend I’m really hoping continues
I'm optimistic about lore in seasons too, don't get me wrong ! The devs see us and if they pushed what we got in today's new quest to give us food even if this season isn't entirely a lore season, then there's hope imo !
I can't even begin to imagine what it will tell us 
Yes, it was refreshing to see the difference honestly. 
Honestly, from what little I’ve heard of prophecy era lore chat, theyre not something I would touch with a 30Ft pole — much less agree with
the prophecy murals r so tasty... what even
Yeah!! And that trend is continuing in this season. I’ll be really excited if this is a new direction that seasons are heading in: each not only adds a new area, but reveals new lore, big (history, for example) and small (lifestyle and culture, etc).
Lore chat before was rather, well intense I would say is a good word for it. It's been much more welcoming recently, I've enjoyed sharing thoughts with you all here. 
The devs have shouted out lorechat in videos and livestreams lately as well as a new face earlier today — Nick. I’m glad we’re getting noticed and fed. Just wish it was more coherent
I saw that with flight too, albeit the link to the prairie elder could stand to be in the game (mural ? huge pot with butterflies ?), it's stuff like that that makes me hopeful.
And from what I heard, last season of the year, we might feast 
So do I! It would be fun to collaborate to write an epic (or a series of poems) that explained Sky lore in a fun way!
I have that gut feeling that the last season of the year will be a feast too. (I also have the gut feeling it’ll be mostly about Eden too but… let’s be real that’s much less likely)
Yeah, Nick saying that they thought about us while designing the quest made me feel like lorechat actually gets heard by the devs, and like because they now know what an audience there is for Sky lore, they’ll actively start to weave it into the game more!!
You have made accurate predictions before
I think it is good to keep in mind that the core story arc of Sky I believe is still pretty obvious to those who don't have social media. I joined discord in 2020 months after I joined Sky, but the idea of a kingdom abusing resources until a cataclysm happened, and now Skykids are the new hope to return the light to the stars, still felt obvious.
But I am hoping as well for more details to be shared. 
Wait what they have???
They have???? It’s surprising, considering we’re tucked away at the very bottom of the server 
We are smol but MIGHTY
could be a vault season accessible from a higher floor, judging from the implementation of the warp mechanic to season questgivers (and "days of" spirits) !
I'd like to think we're very entertaining
i mean, are we not, we got ash jumpscares
We’re the court jesters…
There was one dev livestream during Abyss iirc where one said something about how hungry the people of the lore channel were, followed by “we see you.” I’m sure there was another but I can’t remember right now
putting on my silly little clown hat and jingling into lore chat every evening
forgetful storyteller ^^^
I am dreaming of a Vault season. I've been wondering what is inside those library archive lantern memories since the first time I went through Vault. 
I first realized the lanterns were archives of memories when I experienced the vault cutscene for the first time. I believe vault elder added memories of our journey to the Vault memory library. Maybe this is even how we regain knowledge of our past lives after every Eden trip?
I heard TGC bake sale and I wanna know
Channeling Forgetful Storyteller vibes in this channel tonight. Hopefully we don’t get their forgetful energy
me, continuously forgetting birds exist
macbeth
Me continuously forgetting whales exist in sky
You have NO IDEA how much I want a non collab vault season. I would corrupt the Eden diamond to get one
<-- isle fan
<-- forgets about the isle light creatures
Nothing more lorechat than planning the apocalypse
PLEASE I already have awful brain fog. I don’t need more of it :-(
Enchantment's murals are also a treasure trove too. And not just the ones on the boat, but I also think the one in crab walks cave are important too. Doesn't it show crabs emerging, maybe the creation of how crabs were formed?
I think it depicts how the area used to be underwater! but that's just my take
The crab walker cave shows ancestors and crabs coexisting, ancestors polluting the water, crabs getting in the water and coming out to chase away the ancestors. Very curious
you reap what you ***** sow
I guess it explains why there's some nice crabs in Sanctuary, as far away from the Polluted Geyser as possible.
I wonder if those murals existed before the Enchantment crew crashed upon the dunes from a previous group of ancestors who were chased out, or were drawn by one of the spirits in the Enchantment group.
this happened to crab whisperer too that’s why they’re like that
drank the bad water
Umm....... Does the candlemaker's kid look like the dreams skater???
..... Or have I lost my mind
Well about tha-
(for legal reasons i am kidding its not all just a dream
)
Oh thank god.
Hello Ash !
Do you think you could confirm whether the timeline thing is a mistake or not? Am desperate
🙇♀️🙇♀️ THANK YOU FOR THE CONFIRMATION

Oh bless, I can breathe easy now
do you mean timeline or time periods?
I’m asking if them calling it timelines was correct or if it’s actually time periods! Ty for response
Context:
“Timelines” and “points of time” are often used interchangeably when they aren’t synonyms, hence the confusion
ahh!! i think they mightve meant time periods!!
THANK YOU
Oh thank god
OH THANK GOD.
OHH
yup, sometimes words can be evil 
Really putting the L in timelines there huh tgc staff /j
OH THANK GOD I WAS ABT TO JUST
Surprise! Sky has 42 different timelines!
EVIL
Oh my birds
SCREAMINF
yeah we're changing the story now, going to give the nintendo Zelda timeline theory a run for its money
The mass confusion that resulted from seeing such an unexpected lore bomb on a tiktok comment was. It was something and I’m glad it’s over
wheres the timeline with light creature cats </3
Two devs in the chat, wild.
I'm afraid of neither of you.
Lore discussion solving out the case 
"I was inspired by the clarity of story in Kingdom Hearts"
like i said b4 if sky dips into timeline shenanigans it dips closer and closer to homestuck
This also implies dark creature dogs
thats Sky Universe #2456, of the Sky Multiverse
you thought it was just timelines? well, let me introduce you to the sky multiverse
What do you think krill are? they are funny dogs
sky string theory is real
We getting deeper into the topic-
gratitude spirits are from universe 24-C
Which one of y’all are the Doctor Strange of TGC keeping track of all this?
hey what's that mandala-lookin gate over ther-
looking for the universe where air and earth prophet are actually jsut batman and spiderman
Rhythm guide is actually Stagehand but in an aged up timeline on a universe where Rhythm guide was an artist
you are looking for universe MV-7SNY
I have a deep hatred for alternate timelines being part of media (I can’t explain why. They jsut fill me with rage) and now I am filled with relief that it’s not the case for Sky
Thank you Sky for not being Pokemon or Homestuck
what if we put pokemon sky and homestuck in a blender
I can deal with multiple planes of reality. I cannot deal with time shenanigans
you'd be going in there with them
worlds worst smoothie
Oreo having a gender was a timeline glitch that was never supposed to happen. It’s hushed up by the spirits in that timeline because it could cause mass chaos. In fact, in another similar timeline, that’s exactly what happened: how did you THINK granny got the idea to invent and have a monopoly on gender?
Granny is actually a future seasonal spirit come back in time as a seasonal questgiver of course
ok ill stop goofing lest someone screenshot these messages and use them as #lorefax in the future 
Bold of you to assume they haven’t already been screenshotted
Hey, what's your favorite spirit from the new season ?
Granny is a time traveler 
I suppose I've forgotten the salt and pepper apple slices legacy 😭
I'm gonna spray Ash with a spray bottle of water like a naughty cat
Each of the stories that you tell in the Storyteller's quest are actually incarnations of the penguin, you are the penguin's long lost nephew and all of the Spirits this season are Mantas in disguise. They're working with the Assembly Guide to make sure you don't reincarnate "The Great Light" which is documented in plain text in a secret OOB and guarded by a krill that will quiz you candle-related trivia.
never letting go of the salt and pepper thing it’s opened the gate to ancestors n elders getting into food crime shenanigans fire proph boils their froot loops and this is a FACT(to me) now
One of the quests in this future season is us accidentally discovering genders via Oreo, then, unsuspecting, telling granny, who then travels back in time to get rich on it in ancestor history. We caused the gender economy.
you're spoiling the final season of Sky what!!
Finally, answers! 
bold of you to assume food crimes dont happen regardless
Wonder bread
trying to stop myself rn from bringing mayocake into another game server after the great feral disaster of 2020
krii
The onceler could be in a parallel sky timeline and we wouldn’t know
“Great fera disaster of 2020”?
crab whisperer puts cheese in their coffee. I’m still considering this as canon unless proven otherwise
Someone very briefly reacted
to this and then instantly regretted it and took it back. I almost want to know who but I’d also be concerned.
hey who in sky would put mayo and bbq sauce and cheese on coconut cake asking 4 a friend
crab whisperer
yes.
Somebody in assembly should never be allowed near a kitchen
Crab Whisperer 🤝 Valley Elder(s)
food crimes
i mean yeah crab whisperer is british makes sense have y’all seen british food
BUT YEAH taking a look at different time periods on the timeline is possible. like the comment said, some seasons etc might not necessarily be linear in how you experience them compared to how they occured on the Sky Timeline ™️ . but theres not a Kingdom hearts/Zelda/etc sorta crazy timeline spaghetti you guys have to sort out 
dont make me pull up the british jelly whisperer pic
Thank you
You have given us mercy
The end of the year collab is with kingdom hearts
They’re like different levels of food crime. The apple slices one is awful, but anyone could think of it. It’s not too weird of a leap.
On the other hand… no sane person could possibly think of crab whisperers food crimes. The twins look at them and scream in horror
this chat went straight to food crimes so easily 
The twins are laughing until crab whisperer clips into their temple.
nick we gotta do a season of food crimes I suppose
It’s basically our default actually. All conversations end up here eventually.
i love food crimes they’re tasty have y’all ever had a s’mores cheetos salami sandwich
I think this chat is perpetually hungry. Do you know how often we wonder if we can eat the big mega bird?
I'll also say that, just like in real life, things aren't always what they seem. Stories get told, retold, retold, retold, etc. Just because I was told that somebody told them that somebody told them that they saw on a wall that something was going to happen, doesn't mean it will. Or DOES IT?
can crab whisperer be the ts during that season ?
just add a cooking pot and a fridge to the cave of prophecies and it would happen naturally
How dare you slander chocolate so
dont do it, itll make your mouth tingle
So what, everyone is actually allergic to the mega bird? lol
TAKE ME OUT OF THAT SANDWICH NOW. PLEASE.
I gorge on sour candy, I can handle it
I was reminiscing just the other day how awesome the food shots in all the Ghibli films are
also I saw someone asked what my favorite performance spirit was and honestly I cant pick 😭 i'm adopting them all
random fun fact it took me years to realize kiwi shouldn’t make ur mouth tingle
stagehand was the kindest though by far to concept for though
testing something
well wah wah woo woo to you too
musician has a little bit of Nick influence 😛
I imagine their design notes like
- Round body
- Kind face
- CAT EARS
- hug
All the skids wearing their cat hood
STAGEHAND THE BELOVED
You’ve tried it??? I can’t decide which would be worse: this being a privilege reserved for TGC staff members, or your crime being even more blasphemous because you’re a TGC staff member.
the bacon, eggs and bread slicing scene in howls moving castle lives in my brain whenever i cook breakfast
They have a cat hood, and their pants can give you a neato wizardy vibe. Stagehand was just a full success of a spirit
I think TGC staff should be allowed to taste test the gods they make
oh my god when my girlfriend saw stagehand she loved them so much, shes a huge catpetson and stagehand is a kitty cat 
im a sucker for jester characters so storyteller is my favourite, their quest today was so sweet 10000 blow kissies for them
storyteller is so sweet, i wanna hug them
My favorite is Performance Guide. The adoption papers have been signed and there ain't anything they can do about it
these seasons spirits are so scrimblo blorbo
have you tried replaying it!! nick put in a bit of a choose-your-own-adventure style with it that I absolutely love 
Their gender…. I know they don’t have one but if they did. I would steal it.
Performance guide is my favorite because Alasdair had this headcanon they have a show host voice and I love that so much.
Haha there are already charts that have the various options out there! So cool!
ok thats fair, please make sure not to listen to them when they ask for coffee after dinner, they already have trouble sleeping
Yes I have! I’m very glad the quests are replayable this season! It’s a great feature and I hope it continues going forward 
mourning unreplayable tlp quests i miss my boy
So they're that kinda hard worker huh? /j
Yes please continue to make them repeatable!! They’re so fun, they deserve to be replayed- both to catch things you missed the first time, and just for the nostalgia 
I'm gonna dip out but I just wanted to say thanks again for your dedication <3. Honestly the Storyteller's quest was super inspired by all of your awesome excitement for Sky's plot/lore.
performance guide gives me elegant yet slightly scruffy vibes, love them
That reminds me of the memory cubes that’s next to the start of the quest. Did we use them? Filtered through all the info they stored before deciding what story to tell?
you very much got our intense love of isle of dawn correct
they'd definitely be the type to be lying in bed just about sleep until their brains like "hey i just got a great idea for this project you've been working on"
THAT’S ME ASH
Mood oml so many things I scrambled into my notes app or Google docs while laying in bed.
PLAGUED WITH ART IDEAS AT 3AM </3
FELT
omg that makes me happy because that was actually ended up being one of the keywords in mind when they were in concept phase! haha
Entire songs. And I’m not even a songwriter.
That happened to me, and then I had to wake up at like 2am to draw forest elder UwUing because I was scared I’d forget
furiously scribbling down the coffee and trouble sleeping thing in my little notepad of hcs under the performance director and rhythm are all siblings hc cause directors ts hints said they have too much caffeine AND w director n rhythm having the whole owl bit and like night owls and stuff yknow PLUS another hint said director acts like an older sibling cause hey what if. They were actually
sorry for the ramble but
taking these crumbs and working w em
omg, you just designed the ideal gender
