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pffft!
my arms are soooo so full of megabird headcanons actually. mostly about her just being a very good mama. i look at this pile of spaghetti and i think "yeah she'd be a good parent". I look at this pile of spaghetti and wonder how many skykids she could hold at once with her many many tendrils. i look at this pile of spaghetti and care about her deeply
Great, you've grown attached, time for me to kill off another character.......
i actually grew attached long before i joined this server lol
Anyone else notice how forgetful storyteller and modest dancer literally just performed Romeo and Juliet in the first quest.
I think it was musician and dancer !
Maybe. Though I do remember making the connection between their roles and their friendship shown in their memories.
IS THAT A - WOOOOOLY MANTAAAAA
🤌 ✨
IM HAPPYYYYY LOOKIT ITS A MANTAAA A MANTAAAA AND A WOOOOOLY ONEEEE!
I have Ver the bobbit worm. Anyone excited to see them?
I think i unleashed it sorry 
But.... I thought I did. Ver's house even had their name plate on it.......
So.....
Who did you.... release................
I- sorry

AAAAHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-
...................
TwT i dont know- my serotonin level has drastically decreased goodbye 
No, I'm sorry I was kidding.
TwT i know that- its just feelings anyways thanks!
No problem!!! And may you keep you sky garden eels away from darkness so we don't have anymore bobbit worms!
Ok! Thanks for the tip! ^^ hope you have a great day !
People are saying the season of rhythm guide and the season of performance guide are canonically twins, is this true? :0
Yes. ^^
Where was it mentioned??
News ^^
Oh! Somehow I missed that, that’s awesome! I knew they looked similar

I wonder why XD
How does a twin emerge from one fallen star
ig the star just splits into two
Can you imagine this game having a parallel or mirror world? What do you think it would look like?
Clouds will be at grounds and ground will be in air ? 😂🥲 Sorry for lame jokes
Lol but Maybe we would be made of Darkness while light is the thing that hurts us.
Oh so emotional 🥲🥺
Ground:Adults of the Dark
The krill would be shiny and Manta will be dark creature
Its not dark dragon...its light dragon TwT
😂
It wouldnt be megabird....its minibird
Opposite Day on Sky? 
or maybe is a tgc excuse to take back the owl hair!
Ahm... I'm gonna assume sky kids aren't made of flesh? Sleeping on a campfire and I feel just fine.
Some people think they're made of clay or other 'stone/earthen' materials like golems. Either way they're definitely fire proof and sturdier than humans. Given this is a game however, this does not mean they're not made of flesh.
Yeah, even when you crash against a wall or something it’s sound like a lil crack
The little ping sound they make is very cute
HJONK
When they hit the wall, Alex
I read somewhere I don’t know if it’s true or not that we (Sky kid) were supposed to broke when we crash too hard but they abandoned the idea cuz valley would be too dangerous
Oh, we used to lose winged lights by crashing too hard yeah. The cave down Valley's first slope was lethal
oH ThAt nOiSe- im so happy they scrapped the idea of the wall bonking or i would be here with no wl
Yeah The Valley of Triumph where? I only know valley of death xd
Moths would be the ones losing the most light and they don't have many in the first place. Tbh it might have scared many off flying in the first place, if failure meant losing their limited shinies
Poor moths they’ll be more afraid of a race than krills
Valley more lethal than krills TwT
Krills will be sad too they loose they reason of live, scare moths to death
Otherwise theyll be kicked off the tgc job TwT
Hmm I see 🤔
Nooo poor krills they are without a job what they will do know?
Eat crabs-
Not cozy talking about murderous geese because of my name TwT-
True.
Cannot recall when it changed. But during season of Enchantment at least,skykids can get hurt if theh hit a wall too hard.
This made sliding down to valley's ice rink result in you losing your light from scrapping against the walls while sliding.
These days you instead hear a loud PING when you hit a wall.
PING-
Well we have a lot but I think crabs wouldn’t like the idea
Skybot would have to protect his creb pastries-
Is that a new statue in last forest area?
Oh, thank goodness I slept through the night
Hehe colorless Dancer mask. Maybe the crew painted theirs themselves ?
Not sure if I missed this before, but more Tom Zhao images explaining the extraction of light in factories such as forest temple.
Forest and wasteland get darker every new lore reveal
Also is that the king commanding the abyss creature?
Since it's been going on that the Valley Elders have prosthetic arms I did a bit of exploring and found out that the narcissistic spirit at Starlight desert has the same 'arm' as them. So I believe these are like paddings on their respective arms since they seem to be used a lot of time and they need protection.
I think narcisist straight up uses
model save for the head and chains
He does wear the same clothing from valley Colosseum that's for sure.
In the discussion of Valley Elders and them being one being before(says some) what would have they looked like as one? Minus the concept design and using the current one as reference? 🤔💭
My personal theory is they look like they do when they pretend to be one person before doing the fancy shmansy in-sync routines. Also possibly have two eyes
I would love to see the Valley Elders as one whole being ngl
To the hydraulic press they go
On a serious note, I like to think that they would be lanky. The merged Valley Elders outfit could have something like a blend of a warrior's armor and a commoner's outfit. I think they could be axe-wielding too because I like to think that their paddles are just the two blades of a two-sided axe split in half and also because of the axes that Yeti has in his cave. If the axes aren't for fighting or chopping, then they could be ornamental and would be somewhat of a homage to the Valley Elder/s
I don't know, I'm just rambling 
Hey remember when we were talking about flooding valley
Imagine wing light had social anxiety. That's why they didn't move until you help them reach the Sky
we can do that now
Valley floods = Sky equivalent of climate change??? 
Or like if it snowed in Wasteland
Or Prairie just experienced a really
summer
Instead of the Megabird, we get the Miniworm
is there a lore to this game?!
yeah, quite a bunch actually but devs made it pretty vague so you could interpret it whatever way you want
interpretting lore your own way is pretty fun but sometimes you just want the juicy answers

My sister and I agreed to the conclusion that Home is what remains of Earth, or the landmass anyways. If you noticed that tere aren't any land for miles and miles. And the concept arts did indicate that it is Earth and it is flooded--yes climate change. It gives you the impression of how long ago has passed to get to this point of gameplay. Any land structures we have are connection to realms via the doors. 🤔💭
Yep! I love to make up my own lore but at the same time Grabby hands at devs Please devs, I like some lore snacks
Question, do sky kids have separate toes and fingers or no x3x asking for the sake of art
I don't think they do
they have little thumbs but the rest of the hand is like a glove. no fingies. no toes either
Yeah that's what I said
Ah thank you so much!
willdefinitelymakethingseasierformetodraw
Including those islands
I tried reaching them but there's an invisible wall (also I think they are one island)
those islands are reachable through the table drive trick! they are just assets used over from the old intro i think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckp-M1tp0O0
Omg wow ty
HAHAHAHA
Yes, there is lore
i first thought that the preformance guide was the grown-up version of the girl from season of dreams. still cool that rhythym has a twin sibling tho
Oh
I'm kinda clueless
what do you mean? about what?
...... I forgot
Ceremony Whisperer, Manta Whisperer, Memory Whisperer or the guy who give Prospector Pioneer an umbrella?
It’s the manta whisperer, the one from citadel
Magic
Ceremony Whisperer, Manta Whisperer, Memory Whisperer or the guy who give Propsector Pioneer an umbrella?
Why Discord doubled it? 
Do know something about this ThatSkyBot? 
What kind of magic
Are you sure about that? I have a feeling there could be more spirits from other realms after new quests 🤞
He could be anyone 🕵️ 
I did a iq test the results were 37
Manta Whisperer cos they do the manta call when you interact with them
I think he’s the ceremonial guy
When I post art this happens too
Yeah when you interact with them it’s the manta call so manta whisperer
Cual es el disx en español :(
We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @grand bone. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.
Ceremonial worshiper
It would be fun if those 3 Whisperers shows up 

@hushed steeple @lucid egret @frigid tinsel @native shoal
LMAO
Btw, since the new QuestGiver is the twin of Rhythm QG
And since the new Ultimate Cape looks like "twin" version of the Dreams Ult Cape (Blue + Gold vs Red + Gold)...
..do you think this season will show us something about the closed twin door in the Stadium? (On the BlueGold side of the bleachers of the Stadium)
How do you get these stars? They are super cool. Some stranger put this one here
its a prop from a previous event, not sure which one.
yes, the star prop is giving off the speckles. it's from the season of the little prince!
also sky totally saw all those feedback requests for hoodies, i know it.
Oh ok maybe it will be available again in the future
it will, once the star collector returns as a traveling spirit
TLP was based off of another IP (a book), they had to change a lot after the season due to legal stuff (iirc, i could be wrong)
does that exclude those spirits from the TS pool? no? i hope not.
yes, it was a collaboration with the little prince. i think because the spirits were inspired but not directly copied from the book, that they will return as traveling spirits like any other. since the quests (albeit changed - the prince no longer looks the same as when the season was active) and starlight desert are still available after the season ended, i have no doubt that they will return ^__^
The IAP’s are gone for good, however, even more so than other IAP’s, since they came directly from the book like the Prince. 
;3; such is life
I want the stretching lamplighter to come back, I want his hat and cape
Just curious but has anyone talked about this Tom Zhao abyss concept art yet? Maelstorm posted this in memes and provided to the og image and I just think it’s pretty cool. Considering this is like the newest resh concept art in a LOOONG time
that's not Abyss concept art, though it is Tom Zhao's. Zhao hasn't worked for TGC in years so he wouldn't be involved in any recent seasons. this is supposed to be the top of the Vault.
They are dabbing
That’s pretty cool.
Do they not do a manta sound for you ? I think that's what gives which thin bald spirit they are away.
When you complete their constellation and summon them in orbit, the item they carry is not a paddle, but blades that look similar to the ones in the first winged light room in Eden !
Make of that what you will 
Oo I see thank you for clarifying, Malestorm mentioned it was abyss related so I assumed it was
They did say the travellers shall return at the end of this season as well !
Considering their hair, this is what The Valley Elder(s) hair look superimposed at the beginning of their cutscene.
Ahhh, so why does clean rainwater in the forest hurt you but seawater that's not blackwater or polluted doesn't?
Huge spirit crowd in the front of the theatre. 
it's thought that the rain in Forest is diluted with darkness, hence why it drains your light but other bodies of nonpolluted freshwater don't. think of it akin to acid rain
hm. maybe the seawater in ex, prairie is purified due to the amount of light creatures that live there? for example in forest there isn't as big of a manta population as in prairie so the water could get toxic? could also be a reason why abyss area water doesn't hurt, due to the amount of light fish there is!
ohhh, might explain the dark mushrooms in the forest thriving in the rain.
And the light fish does kind of make sense as well. I guess the trees and fog covering the place from sunlight makes it harder for light-related creatures to move around as well.
Funny thing, from the daily quests, we know the mushrooms that recharge you are "light blooms" while the black spiky plants you can melt are "darkness plants" !
:o oh I thought they were mushrooms. They remind me of wood ear mushrooms (and unrelated to sky, but everytime I burn them away, I just imagine eating them like in hot soups xD)
some do refer to them as darkness fungi. kinda not sure if they're a plant or a fungus
i was going to tie in the battery farming in forest temple to the acid rain mentioned earlier but would that contribute to it if the batteries are made from the energy of light creatures?
Ok wait, how do the quests go again, "Melt 10 darkness points" ? Or is it just called darkness ? Either way they are related to darkness.
It’s melt 10 darkness plants
it's melt 10 darkness
Well biology-wise, mushrooms are fungi and fungi aren't plants. So I guess they really aren't mushrooms 😔
And some actually glow. 
The ones we melt make me think of nettles and flytraps. They don't work like either but they can be a bit scary to some !
that's what those plants are called – nettles
suppose it makes sense cos these are deadnettles
there's a bunch of deadnettles that grow in my backyard, that's why I got excited
Nettles are cool, you can actually make useful stuff with it like food, toothpaste and all.
It's just that it's a plant that ALWAYS grows in the specific ditches you stumble and fall in as a kid. Hence why I thought about them as things sky kids would burn away 
One thing that reminds me from the dark plant things are the round parts. They remind me of "sporangium" from fungi I used to study in class.
😏😟😟
This will be your expression in 2023.
But seriously, do you have any questions/ideas about the lore of Sky?
They be blades??? 
Proposal: What if, when light creatures die, they turn into this essence that, as in my theory as to why the forest rain is hurtful, clears up water? Like, think of it as chlorine for now- a pool is all dirty and disgusting = wasteland water – you put in a lot of chlorine (=light creature essence) and wait a day or two and BOOM! pool is clear = water is less toxic. and in prairie, this immense amount of essence left by deceased light creatures, because there are so many in the first place, supports their ecosystem for many decades to come and the abyss area water stays clean aswell because of fishing!
I love these to bits but did you really go to Eden to clarify??? 😂
Beautiful
Aha aw no I didn't, this is from when I unlocked the valley ult

Also something I noticed in the broken temple in the wasteland.
When the krill emerges, they make a bell like noises, the same noise is made when the krill enters back into the area after the temple
OHHH I NOTICED TOO
I thought it was part of the BGM though. This is really interesting 
What are u talking about now
my question is, what is the lore for sky?
I’m kinda new to the game so I need to know this stuff!!
Most of us have 4 basic ideas:
||There was an Eden Elder.
This Eden Elder screwed up, causing Eden to look the way it is.
The power of darkness was used and abused.
The spirits can’t be saved without our help.||
ohh ok alright
may I ask who Eden elder is 😅😅
He’s known as Resh or the King. I’m finding a perfect picture to show you
Ok ty I appreciate ur help!
This is an extremely famous extremely canon picture of the Wasteland Elder marrying Resh (who is on the right) you must see it do you like it
we don't really know who the Eden Elder is. they might be King Resh, they may be their own thing. not sure whether the Eden Elder was considered the king or not or ever if that position changed hands overtime
Just realise performance guide got a star/ wing symbol on their cape
Is this the first time spirit got this on their cape?
😭
Some people also believe in the theory that we are the King or Eden elder. So that’s there too
wl ?
all the spirits with capes currently have stars on their backs. thought to be a glitch rn cos it showed up in the last update and wasn't mentioned in the patch notes
Looks kinda cool tho
Oh i didnt realise other spirits got it now too
they can fly now😲like flap their cape one time hhh
I've been pinged 
Probably not. the ancestors couldn’t fly, capes seem to be a purely decorative attire. The most spirits fly is when they dematerialize into a sparkle to go to Elder temples or to ascend.
I was kinda up in the air about posting this here instead of #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat , but I think it fits better here just bc we talk about manta variants/biology a lot and this was inspired by a convo here :-)
So, here is my sketch interpretation of a manta used specifically for racing. Kinda like how the wooly manta would be used specifically for wool, they would be specifically for valley races. I based their anatomy a Lot off peregrine falcons, because I wanted them to 1) be able to soar and 2) dive really fast. I also put extra effort into making them look cool in ways that didn’t require me to sacrifice speed, hence the ornate designs and feather frill. Because, let’s be real, racing mantas would HAVE to look cool.
Here’s a short list of things I added:
- Body covered in small, soft feathers to keep them warm
- Wings covered in feathers to aid in lift and keep them warm as well - shaped like falcon wings
- Feathered, fan shaped tail aids in soaring. An ancestor made sail is attached to the back that can be spread out/folded in, allowing for the soaring boost while also helping navigate sharp turns and right areas.
- Harness along chest and back attaches to sail and keeps it in place
- Bridle and reins so that it can be directly guided by the rider easier
Sorry for off topic text wall, I just feel like If I wait to post this I will forget
That is amazing
Wow your work is beautiful salem
I do wish there is a season more into the races in valley
l.like a pancake???
what was this boi doing in the Village Theater?
Crab Whisperer’s Apprentice
thank you!!! I really appreciate it :-) you too as well @final mist
🙏

🎨
🖌️
Also, I adore everything about this. The art, and the idea behind it! So amazing 
is it true that the rhythm guide and performance guide are twins o.o i think i'm missing out
yeah! on performance guide's intro card it said something along the lines of "twin of one of the past season guides"
thanks for the confirmation ;; but where can i see the intro card??
beep beep
I totally see these diving at 180 mph at that specific point of the flying race, where you enter the area with the floating rocks and second winged light on the map.
I wonder if these or a cousin breed could also be used by performers for aerobatics !
YESSS TY SO MUCH! I was having lots of fun imagining them folding in their wings and plummeting like a falcon in the parts of the flying race that require you to dive. The aerobatics variant… you are tempting me… I’m imagining those looking like flycatchers because of how fast/quickly they can maneuver
THANK YOU !!! I HAD TONS OF FUN DEAWING IT AND IM SUPER PROUD OF IT
What about swifts and swallows ? Imagine the tail variations, maybe the ancestors bred some with really long ones to gracefully move as the manta flies like dancer ribbons !
YES… MANTAS WITH FORKED TAILS. THAT WOULD BE SO NEAT. I NEED TO DRAW THIS
Like this
https://youtu.be/0LCJNBn3qTw
Imagine peacock mantas bred for show/competitions…
I don’t believe it’s a bug, doesn’t performance have a star on the back of their cape in the season art? Also, grandma has 5 stars on her cape, which feels like something that would have to be manually done
Maybe they add ribbons around their wings because the Valley ancestors can and will be extra 
I LOVE FHIS SO MUCH. I am totally drawing the aerobatics mantas tomorrow , they sound so pretty and I am excited to go ham on the decorations
I’m imagining the decorations on mantas to be themed after where the rider is from/what they like, which is why I themed the racer manta’s sails after the dream ults. Im thinking a
theme for the aerobatics one
Pride flags.
No star
Is this in the help menu for the season pass ? I am running there at very fast speeds to check.
They haven’t released any promo images except character cards on their social media, so these are in game for the season pass
Kinda gender ngl
YES. HOW COULD IFOGER
I want that cape so bad
ifoger- add that to the dictionary too please 
Here’s the other one
Looking at the Performance questgiver respectfully.
Before this season, I would’ve thought rhythm guide was the fashionable twin. I was wrong
Performance guide looks at Rhythm guide and sneers, "fool."
"who are you"- "im you but cooler"-
i feel like performance is more fashionable and more playful, while rhythm is more serious and secretly jealous that they didn't get the good fashion sense
do you think rhythm guide has fancier clothes for performances, or do they look like that all the time? What if they steal their twins clothes when they need it
Maybe they share a closet. Rhythm guide just unfortunately died in their more drab wear for traveling
WHAT IF they had to do a parent trap situation where they have to act like each other for a while that would be so funny.
Rhythm guide thinks they share a closet. Performance guide disagrees and wonders where their clothes are going
that is a very sibling thing to do, i keep stealing my sister's clothes.
rhythm has to call performance to help them beat a difficult level of mario because that's what siblings are for 
Do spirits have like a spirit clothes store that they have to go to if they need to change? Can they just manifest clothes out of light like we do? What solutions do they have if they die in a really silly outfit like idk a maid outfit? Are they just stuck in it forever
dunno, look at Storyteller
This is mean and slander. Storyteller dressed like that on purpose
imagine dying in your jester costume and being unable to change it
Performance guide is so much more reactive than I anticipated, with their cheering on the spirits and you during the quest, and spirit card makes it look like they are kind of emotional ("💔 Can’t let go of that review from last year") so I like to think they are intimidating only in looks and are actually quite approachable.
If Rhythm questgiver is a bit more on the calm side, the maybe Performance questgiver is the jolly sibling 
They pretend they're proper but I bet they still climb stairs on all 4 when no one is looking.
i assume when they were alive they handmade their own clothes and had marketplaces n such. i think they may be able to change their clothes after death because the skater from dreams donned the phoenix outfit (unless that was just a memory. otherwise i dont think there's been another instance of spirits changing clothes yet?)
Forest elder was THIS close to appearing to us in a fursuit
I think that performance just wanted entertainment, made a theatre now watches all the skykids and spirits run it- so they can watch 
Oh dang
Could’ve sworn there was a star, guess I imagined it 
I started headcanoning them as the other spirits’ teacher (like a drama class or something idk) and now I can’t stop because it’s such a cute idea
i like to think performance was part of rhythm troupe with their sibling for a few good years and eventually split off to do their own thing. while rhythm was more of a circus of varying talents, performance had a flair for the dramatics and an eye for the theatre. so while the rhythm group traveled around bringing their act to everyone, performance settled down and built their own life; creating a community of friends putting so much love and care into their small theatre.
I mean, if their clothing in spirit form is made of light, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to change it, but we don't see spirits changing their outfits, so who knows if they're able to change their appearance at will or not or if it takes some degree of effort.
there's a trope/thought(?) that one's spiritual form is a manifestation of your soul and personality, a reflection of your self. the rules around that vary a lot – could be a reflection of how you lived, your true self you couldn't express in a mortal form, whatever.
it's really unclear what rules Sky operates under. though when I think about spirit memories, their appearance in their memories is always the same as their spirit.
NO YOU GET ME
I WAS IN IMPROV FOR A YEAR AND THE TONGUE TWISTERS THING IS SUCH AN IMPROV TEACHER THING
This is a well thought out and very true post, however I started giggling halfway through at the implication that storyteller’s jester outfit was part of their soul. Poor guy, they just can’t win
Storyteller lived, died and felt like a clown.
assigned silly little goofy guy by their soul
Storyteller embraces the jester look, no shame. proud of them
ESPECIALLU WITH HOW SMALL RHE OTHER SPIRITS LOOK NEXT TO THEM IN THE ART. I can’t tell if it’s just me or weird perspective tricks but they look younger
The spirits are described as young, though I really don't see them as assembly spirit kinda young either.
You raised them or something? 
proud that they're able to express themself however they want to be despite social pressures otherwise
oh the assembly guide is supposed to be young. i thought they were just a short king
I don’t think they’re kids either. I want to say teenagers, maybe? Like 15-16?
No. assembly spirits are just toddlers TwT soon you know it that sanctuary guide is also a child XD ( im just kidding about this dont take it seriously
)
It’s just really cute to me imagining the other spirits being performance guide’s students, and that’s why they’re so supportive of them/hoping they’ll succeed
Performance guide addressing all skykids as “students”
Stop making me feel like a fossil, what do you mean 15-16 isn't a kid
/hj
T POSE
That's just how theater folks are, look at dancer with the Jojo pose and whatever Shakespeare trick storyteller is pulling 
Old
you saying that makes me feel old
Is the Prophecy guide young or old? They’re both short and tall
everybody is bulling the seniors today 

To me they’re younger than the prophets but def not s teenager
Elderly
I swear, was talking with someone and the topic of age headcanons came up for assembly guide and they said they saw them as young but on the older side so I went "oh yeah, they def look in the 16-18 range since they managed to have some authority in here, managing stuff and all"
And they reply
"I was thinking more like 12"

I bet both our ages are represented by the Valley, it's ok, we're winning.
I’m taking your side here. 12-13 is still young (I imagine them as maybe idk 13-14?).
For anyone confused, everyone younger than me is a baby, and everyone older than me is elderly. Hope this helps
I have this 12 year old niece and she quite literally runs the their house- She does everything for them except for the income. Maybe there are rare specimens out there-
I was joking with that Shared Memory. Since the we previously discussed the Whisperer Similarity more than once here I wanted to just share a little bit drop of Lorechat into SkyLive
(I saved that and hope at least my friends will play it)
But in all truth, beside dropping that joke, no, I didn't notice, I could just visit the theater today for the first time and in the haste I didnt listen carefully. Thanks y'all for point out this details 
Weird thought — if the Assembly spirits are in Forest which represents teenagerhood, then maybe they’re teenagers (13-19)
I'm not saying kids can't have responsibility mind you, but as you said, such a situation is out of the ordinary.
YALL KILLING ME, when the news said young i was thinking like
young adult for the performance crew, 19-24 age range, yknow those kids that leave highschool and enter college and just go HAM on the self expression bc who give a damn in college compared to highschool? performance, if someone says 19-24 is old ur going to kill me for real
SLINK I AM BACKING YOU UP ON THAT
I DON'T WANT TO INFLICT MY STAGE FRIGHT ON SOME POOR TEENS
FIRST YEAR OF THEATRE COLLEGE ENERGIES
My question is: Did they sky society have school?
Anyone at any age can have anxiety and stage fright. I’ve been hella anxious since 11
Yeah but when you're a kid it's more appropriate because you have a lot of room to mess up, whereas an adult is expected to at least try to keep that in check.
Reminds me of this:
NAUR
Evil
Reason why Club Penguin shut down
@rigid mural Btw, if the upcoming Days of Earth introduce the white turtle cape, then what makes the Water Prophet cape? A Polar Turtle cape? (Since it has a furry tail and Water Trial is deadly cold)
So if there could be a furry turtle... the chances for a wooly manta are growing

this hurts
Wait wasn’t that cos penguins live on average 20 years? Uh oh
WOOOLY MANTAAAA????
Maybe the cape is based off a penguin ? I know someone refer to it as such.
Maybe just a wild wild wish for our Lorechat masquotte
Woooly mantaa :D!
Here’s my ages for all the guides:
Enchantment is 27-35
Sanctuary is 35-40
Prophecy is 15-20
Dreams is 20-40
Assembly is 10-18
Flight is 18-25
Abyss is 16-20
Performance is 25-50
I wish to be as unknowable despite jolliness as Performance, that age range.
Guys I found something to find out about
You pfp is cool ^^ i dont think ive seen you before so hi ^^
Hi
They could be 25 or 50, I legitimately have no idea
I imagine Performance guide with that showy, flamboyant announcer voice, which is timeless to me.
Oh my god.
The current amount of wl levels is 11
And maybe we can reach 12 in the future
I’d imagine them to be like a teacher to the Performance spirits, who are all like teens/young adults
LOL, I love like the community comes up with new interpretaion of oddly shaped things (like Dismiss Mask or that rock under Village OOB 🐷 🐑 🦬
)
Penguin seems a nice idea, but I think turtle could fit better for the mask shape. Anyway, a furry penguin would still be perfect to prove the possible existence of furry creatures
"flamboyant" just goes straight through me head- ( you get it if you get it ) I imagine them with a mix of the vioce your suggesting and with a hint of buster moon ( from sing 2)
Idk abt furry penguins but I know the new season has several penguin furries.
well I can't exactly say their voice is gay
requirements to join the performance crew
- penguin fursona
They're very fruity tbf
i couldnt say that either but you got it 
I have a question witch is what is the maximum level of wls u could get for now its 11
about the water prophet - i looked into it and didn't see any similar looking turtles with the little tuft at the end of the cape (side note: do not google "furry turtle". mistake on my end) but i still do think that it is mostly inspired by a turtle, but maybe another animal as well? which either means there's a weird kind of like. mix of a turtle and another animal that actually existed in the sky kingdom or the water prophet couldn't decide on their fursona.
The latter would be hilarious.
man i absolutely adore how in the sky world bird themed stuff = performer cause hey in a way irl birds r also performers
like they sing and do (sometimes real goofy looking) dances to impress other birds and r even dressed in funky plumage sometimes
YEAH
Gotta say this channel is kinda dead
it's chill
bro if this is dead then there’s skeletons running around
You think this was bad? It was so much worse in 2020/2021 
I'm one of these messed up crow skeletons with bone wings.
gender
Ok I agree don't google furry turtle I saw enough
the bird thing opens up so many ideas tho for spirit ocs who r performers currently thinking abt peacock themed cape like hmm
peacock isn't a banned word?
PLEASE WE NEED MORE BIRD CAPES
Light whisperer cape + rythm bird masks is the combo ever.
It's some kind of bird
I am 100% down for a peacock-themed cape cos omg that would look so glorious
We need a spirit even more flamboyant than gloat.
And that drink named cocktail
Imagine a peacock mask too, so cute
It really depends on things like the season, new announcements, and time of day/ day of the week. I do agree that lorechat is one of the lesser active ones in this channel, but its only because we're at the VERY BOTTOM
I like that this chat is not too active either, backreading is fun and it's not as overwhelming as genchat.
oooough hold on im thinking. this is off topic but now that we have abyss and all the underwater species imagine if we had like. cambrian explosion animals. can you imagine a sky trilobite
That weird bug not gonna say it cuz it may be sensored
Also being ‘slow’ isn’t bad, i don’t get stressed here with the pace of chat
mini story
in a server i was in 4 a game there was a peacock emoji based on this and the bot sniped peacock so anyone who used the emoji got insta muted so ppl started saying peaglock and the emoji was renamed that and it was rlly funny
Gloating Narcissist is only flamboyant in behavior. if they were flamboyant in appearance, they put on a black & white filter for dramatic effect. they're muted in color. I want rainbow flamboyance
i can only imagine they’re adding more sky animals yknow, the ocean is VAST
I'm not sure if the quantity of messages was different in the past compared to now, but i will say that lorechat has far better people in it compared to 2020 and early 2021
Abyss 5th quest restoring fish diversity.
i see ppl calling spin dance a peacock sometimes but like
consider
royal flycatcher
OH MY GOD ???
YOU'RE SO RIGHT THEY DO REALLY LOOK THE SAME
I rlly gotta make this as my pfp sorry for the off topic but I might forget about this
OH HES FUNKY, I LOVE HIM
and 4 pianist
crested duck
thats y they got the crazy hair

I love the bird themes, but i really want the bunny mask 
I'm going to cut his hair and transform it into a weapon
Do you think bots can think?
yes
YEAH
royal flycatchers r so funky looking
I think actor mask was a kind of corvid, fits with the romantic/dramatic themes.
No ur coded
SO BABY TOO OML
OH!!! THEY ARE TINY !!!!!!!!!!
I have a theory about golden waste land, anyone want to hear it?
Quoth the raven 
random but can we get an oreo themed outfit
Quick question popped into my mind! Do we have any idea why devs stopped releasing Props with TS? It seems they stoped the trend, but is there any statement about ?
i know there’s corvids outside of crows but my first thought was the crows i sometimes see in the McDonald’s parking lot horking down fries and now im thinking of actor doing that sorry
No you're right, they would do that.
actor sees a seed on the ground and starts pecking at it
i can’t unsee this now
One of the last one was PinWheel Prop, I think 
Wish I could ask Ash
oh i forgot they did that, i took such a long break
I have a theory that golden waste land used to be a thriving city and there were guards called dark dragon/ krill hunters that protected the city but one day they disappeared mysteriously and the city went into ruins overrun by krill. Making what we know as golden waste land.
@calm jay @fickle wing discreetly bows ... just to pick/pecking seeds 
Do you think the Wasteland Elder was a famed krill hunter? I’d like to imagine people would just watch them swiftly kill the krills 
I do, he could also be the last one to remain after the others disappeared
In my oppinion it makes sense as to why the wasteland spirits seem more careful and scared than the others.
hey question! since we're talking about wasteland, does anybody know what the two fighting factions were? I see a sun/star which seems to represent the light, and a diamond, on the shields.. the light and power diamonds/darkstone respectively, right?
does anybody have theories on what happened?
[stares, entranced, at burd for a minute]
[saves to art reference photos]
Ooooo maiby as u talked about the big guards maiby that’s who trapped king krill in his cage
Most likely, anyone have a theory on shipwreck?
Ok there were traveling traders that went to wasteland expecting it to be a big town as it was but turns out they got attacked by a krill and then boom ship crashed that’s my theory on the forgotten ark but idk about ship wreck
That makes sense for forgotten arc, it explains why it sells spells.
Yeah I didn’t think about that I just kinda yeeted a theory out lol maiby that’s why they look so foreign then the other spirits too
That’s okay, yeah. Maybe shipwreck was a ship that sailed around looking for krill or was a mode of transportation from the main city to other realms.
Yeah that makes sense but how did it crash though
The krill that watches it attacked?
I guess yeah
And how u said that wasteland was a thriving city that also explains why there is soooooo many ruins of like buildings
That’s a big part of the theory, the bones are harder to explain though.
For the bones they were mama krills and the baby krills are living right now and slowly getting bigger ;-;
Ah, makes sense, the mamá krills where probably all slain by the hunters but there where too many babies.
Yeah that’s a good point
Krills probably attack sky kids because they think they’re krill hunters and want to take revenge from them killing their mothers.
Awwwwwwwwww noooooooooo that is so sad I didn’t realize that ;-;
It is sad
, but it does make sense.
And the bones are there for a reminder to the baby krills ;-;
To avenge their mothers.
NUUUUUHH IM HEART BROKEN FOR THE BABY KRILLS ;-;
Same, poor baby krills
What about the hidden coral? There’s no explanation for the trapped underwater krill.
Time to yeet out another theory ( The guards trapped him for testing and to see his characteristics for the scientist spirits)
That poor baby ;-;
Makes sense, also the giant weird looking fish is probably a mamá krill.
But it just looks so different thoe and it doesn’t attack u idk anymore
It litterally eats you on the last abyss quest
Oh that thing I thought u was talking about the one that dives in the clouds yeah the thing that eats u is called king krill that’s who I was talking about who the guards trapped
Ohh, I didn’t know the name of it and make’s a lot of sense.
Yeah a lot of people call him “king krill” it’s fine though
Alrighty, you know the free wax area in graveyard?
Yes the crab cooking spot?
Yup, it means the spirits ate crabs, probably roasting them.
Yeah I wonder how they tasted
Crab but smoky
WAIT THATS WHY THEY TURN RED WHEN U PUT THEM OVER THE FIRE IN SANCTUARY ISLAND
Ya!
Lol
Just remembered something a friend said about the hidden forest, they said that it was possible that all the weapons/bells/props where made there at the forge enfused with light majick.
Ooooooo yeaahhhhhh
Why does that make sense?
Have a wonderful day! It was fun talking!
So we have a dusty and inverted version of the modest dancer’s mask. Neat(?)
(I also don’t know if the mask is dusty, it just looks dusty.
That is the modest dancer’s mask.
OK OK OK I FOUND IT (yeah I’m back) THE FORGOTTEN ARK FOT TRAPPED IN A STORM IT DIDNT GET ATTACKED BY A KRILL YOU CAN SEE ON THE ARK THE WHOLE STORYLINE
Welcome back and ahh, makes a lot more sense and you can?!
yeeahhhh that’s wat all the symbols are
Oh, I never got what they meant
Ok just watch nasty molds (how did the forgotten ark end up here?)
Alrighty.
It makes a lot of sense and now I gtg for ciya ;-;
Have a good one!
Queston: did ancestors have schools?
That is possible
Afaik, there isn’t anything in the lore to suggest that they have a western style school system. In Vault, we see terms such as “acolyte” which implies either a teacher/student or master/apprentice relationship, which would technically be school. Along the same vein, the water/earth/air/fire prophets taught their disciplines to others, which is another form of schooling. If they do have a western style school, my guess is that it existed in Valley and the realms beyond
That’s a good explanation, western style schools don’t think would make much sense, but the teacher/master and student/apprentice relationship makes a lot of sense.
The mask belongs to Modest Dancer's evil twin: Immodest Dancer/j
it’s why the mask is dusty, had to make him modest
I agree with you, but Consider: manta schoolbus
That would be precious 
So like this?
AGHSGSHHAHSH THE TIMING
Now I need a Nemo crossover season
add on to Sanctuary or Abyss let's go

wait I just had a thought... the fact that Eye of Eden is one of the Performance stage backgrounds with effects means that the spirits might have gone there... 
Oh dear
Maybe they had the equipment to observe Eden in detail but from afar. Maybe telescopes or binoculars because if they did go to EoE, they wouldn't be able to draw a stage background for it because they would have most likely died
hello internet strangers- someone pointed me this way for help with something? so i don’t know if this should go in one of the other discussions but does anyone know if there’s somewhere i can find (if there is one) a site for sky’s alphabet? trying to find it for a project
Sky has an alphabet? That's cool. I thought Ancestors had always communicated with drawings as the ones found in Prophecy
i saw a post on instagram featuring it and the creator/artist of the post told me it was the sky alphabet lmao
also yeah i think they mainly communicate/show with the drawings
People in lorechat have attempted to translate the sky alphabet before. I think the success level was: Complete Failure
oh jsjs. fun times
Tumblr successfully translated the concept alphabet tho.
Where do we find a list of its letters?
They did?
There was an entire language expedition lead by @wheat cypress and I haven’t heard anything
Oh.... But this is still not an in game text
@sharp lichen im afraid the expedition we went on was not for linguistic purposes, I apologize for the misunderstanding
Ah ok
Who on earth wrote this omw I must speak to them and team up
.... Fyi I am your local Sky language nut
It looks like they’ve moved away from Sky. Their name on tumblr is lidrens, how about you go contact them?
Perhaps.... I'd hate to bother them tho, especially if they don't play anymore. It is hard to do these research projects when you don't have that vigor for them if that makes any sense... But this is the kind of critical thinking and genius we desperately need
Does this script appear in any other concept art images?
The kind of brain cells i cant acquire are running through lore right now 
There was a post (which im having trouble finding ) that had a kind of language/script written on (some kind of ) a building in sky. Ill continue to look for that picture but if i cant find it i can tell you that that script-ish thing had big block like letters, the kind that you could make with the same shape of square legos, but no diagonal lines- only straight lines. if this doesnt help dont mind it-
Journey ?
No it was from sky- but i cant seem to find the screenshot, it was from another persons post 
Hollow Knights are just relatives of skids with dark eyed masks and needle accessories....
SkyHighFive
No thats clearly Ground:Adults of the dark 
oh god, Hollow Knight is basically Ground: Children of the Dark
psssttt
Inspirations for this one were swifts and resplendent quetzals :-)
SALEM I LOVE YOU
We could go on that line and do a regional variation/breeds thing with mantas like some artists did with pokemon when alola/galarian/hisuan forms were announced 
I realized during this that swifts and traditional mantas have a near identical wing shape, which is really neat. I wonder if that’s on purpose, considering how much both animals stay in the air??
THANK UOU IM SO GLAD HOU LIKE IT. OT WOULDNT LEAGE MY BRAIN SO I HAD TO DRAW IT
YOUR ART IS SO GOOD UR SO TALENTED MAN
THANSK YOU SLINK!!!!,,,.!!!
NO THOUGHTS HEAD FULL OF MANTAS
Imagining a corvid based manta, that the scholars in vault train to grab specific items for them and rely messages (this is just an excuse to draw corvids let’s be real)
On Tom Zhao's concept art, the picture of a dove can be found near art of mantas 
Also CORVID APPRECIATION
Oh my god. Now I’m imagining manta wings chattering when they fly like doves do
Alternatively, you could use a carrier pigeon based manta for something similar. They’re great navigators. I would expect these mantas to be bred to be smaller than average so they are more agile in the air. 
And more easily transported too !
Maybe ancestors using mantas for so many things is why these creatures are so prominent in their art 
I’m thinking of making a transportation/carrier one that’s a carrier pigeon + ox inspired
what if baby mantas served as carrier pigeons
Do you think you could use a crab as a messenger?

Funny thing in my fic, some sky kids use light birds like carrier pigeons ! Should I dig it up ?
I still can’t get over the idea of little raven mantas flying around vault and relaying messages. Like they learn how to modulate their honks to sound like ancestor voices and then run around imitating people
your fic 👀 
I fold a message boat and place it on a crab as a hat, and send him off to deliver it

This is told from the POV of a skyfolk (grown skykid).
[...]
However, we cannot train any random bird to become a messenger; the ancestors tamed a particular specie that can be recognised by its yellow head and tail tip (as opposed to the more common pure white ones).
We call them Light Birds, and feral populations of them are uncommon but not unheard of.
Their specificity is that they seem to know where to find their flock with a single call no matter how far they may be, thus ensuring they stay together during their Journey. I do not know if it was something that always was, or another legacy the ancestor spirits left us, but we know that ability comes from them gifting eachother some of their light.
Sounds familiar ?
It works just like our candles.
Unfortunately, there’s no way to tell a bird to go to a specific area; they will follow the skyfolk they befriended as if they were their flock, possibly landing on them if they are stationary. [...]
The bird uses the migration routes to reach the realm of its friend (the skyfolk that gifted it light) at first, before separating to look for them when they feel them near.
However, if its search is fruitless, then the outcome is in its... wings. What we hypothetize is that it depends on how close to the final stretch of the Journey it is at that point. Either it is far enough and goes back to the Wind Paths, in which case it will idly circle the area until it feels the presence of its friend again or we lead it back to our flock, or it is too close and completes the Journey.```
Yeah. The fic I meant to update for Abyss. 
think I know what fic you're talking about. this is well-written and well thought out 
I got a case of "bit more than i could chew" when it comes to Sky projects lol. But YEAH. Very proud of how I made this work with a constantly migrating wildlife.
I LOVE IF A LOT. I feel like it’s very on brand for you to go on a tangent about light creatures in the middle of a fic (saying this in a positive way)! I also see sky’s birds as being naturally migratory, and the idea of birds gifting each other light is incredibly adorable. Imagining it as a little ritual they do to pair up (I get the feeling I can’t say te actual word for the type of ritual here…) like how some birds dance and sing and gift each other things, these birds gift each other Loght
Oh no. No no-no. This article is written by someone talking about and explaining the bird post of their guild, I did this on purpose because I'm evil and people are going to hear about birds when they consume my content whether they like it or not 
Rhythm Guide:"Sibling, sibling..."
Performance Guide:"Sibling, sibling..."
Both:"SIBLING DANCE!!!"
OH ITS LIKE.S A BIRD MAGAZINE ?
The articles are put together so newbies to the guild get their bearings, so it goes from the discoveries they made this far to how stuff works !
Greetings lore chat
But yeah, back to light creatures. I am of the theory light creatures are all born from the agglomeration of motes of light (laughing lightcatcher memory) !
Hi, I think Ver got out again.
So they’re made out of little wisps of light that belong to a collective mass and a flame is the central point?
I want to read the bird manual so bad.
The devs once said that mantas came from clouds so maybe light/flame + clouds = manta ?
That makes sense, but how would the light/flame be forged with the clouds?
I like that skykids can read in your verse
I think that light creatures are made when something specific happens. Or maybe its a fluid something./j
Serious time:
I think light creatures might have many different and varying ways of being born, made, created, etc.
They made their own language and alphabet !
good for them
That makes sense, maybe some creatures of the light are forged in a forge to fly around the realms
Some could come from the clouds.
Some from the seas when its foggy.
Some from light nodes.
Some from relationships.
There are so many different possibilities./lh
I could be wrong but I don’t think it’s light — if it was, we’d make birds every time we flew into a cloud. I’m not sure what else it would be then, hmm,…. Maybe one of the specialized colored lights? Like a light (so that they qualify as light creatures) that we don’t have
Birds are born out of the sun./j
That makes sense, like the different lights in forgotten arc.
what if it's specifically sunlight? though it seems sunlight counts as neutral light. on the other hand, all light could have some magical properties ot it
Wouldn’t that run into the same issue as us hitting clouds and not creating birds? As in, every time sunlight hit clouds, the clouds would turn into tons of birds, which doesn’t seem to happen
That’s the answer that makes the most sense, maybe wind light (green light) makes birds?
Maybe bird and other light creatures are concentrated light?
I don't think it would be just light. Its light with specific factors at play to create a new light creature. Or sometimes it might not even be light that they come from.
I vote it’s green light (earth). Tje only time we actually See light creatures being created is in prairie elder cutscene, and that’s the only unique trait I can think of that that scanario has. Relevant to this conversation is cyan light being involved with bells somehow to make them work
Did isle elder summon or create a bunch of birds?/lh
I agree, maybe some light creatures are created when a specific ritual or spirit is done or present?
Or like one of the examples I gave, something similar to thick fog covering the seas.
Not exactly similar for each situation of course.
That’s possible and a likely answer
It could also require conscious manipulation of the light, as opposed to some involuntary thing. I’m remembering seeing it happen in the switch trailer too, and it doesn’t look like green light was involved
If the elders wanted could they transmute ancestors and/or us into butterflies? Discuss
This is valid too.
The production of light creatures is a quite fluid topic. The answer is that there is no exact answer, only a small set of rules.
It could for some specific light creatures, but not all, some lights like cyan light could be involved to forge a light creature.
Maybe that’s where alll the spirits in the prairies went. They turned into butterflies/j
But that’s is a really good theory but also what if bird and other such light creatures were concentrated forms of light?
Could a skykid learn how turn other skykids’ inner light into butterflies, and just do that to others whenever they get mad
Valid theory, there are endless possibilities
Possible, but wouldn’t that make our inner light turn into light creatures as well, along with the globes of light we see floating around the realms?
Then that's what they are. They were formed as concentrated light. No artificial flavoring either.
Orange light is used to summon light creatures around the ark !
If light creatures are concentrated inner light, then what about dark creatures?
The idea of an irked skid butterflifying their afk cr partner is very funny to me 
corrupted light creatures
I don't have the energy to try and explain so I'll leave it off at this. I am fairly certain that the two things and exist together without having to be the same things./lh
Valid point, they could be concentrated outer darkness?
I have to wonder… is that because orange light is used to make creatures (possible) OR, alternatively, the loophole where you could technically control every light being if given orange light?
I’m leaning towards the first, bc imagining wasteland elder repeatedly trying to fill the wasteland with light creatures to make it less of a wasteland and failing is :( and I Love it
I like to think it's because orange light is fire, and the flame is a pretty important symbol of life, even just within the game !
My current theory is that, dead spirits and light creatures mixed with rocks and building materials and wasteland water made the krills
Let me explain about the loophole part, because it’s really interesting. Ok so orange light controls fire, right? If we have an inner flame, could someone with orange light control us by proxy? Even if they couldn’t, could they theoretically take away all our flame at once and instakill us?
Fear playfight herbalist.
Valid point, if you scroll up a lot, I and another person where discussing wasteland theories and why it’s a wasteland.
I don't think that the orange light could control fire, and instead it could only create fire.
Playful herbalist is approaching at immense speed
Who’s that?
An herbalist that playfights.
Season of Enchantment spirit who manipulates orange light
Wild.
Alrighty, thank you.
I like discussing the elemental lights’ powers and loopholes and whatnot, because they get underestimated despite how scary they are. Here’s another one:
If ancestors were really similar to humans in terms of makeup, forest elder could probably use blue light to control them similar to how I mentioned orange light works, because they’re mostly water. If they work like skykids, the ability to control them goes to wasteland elder instead.
Alternatively, I have a Theiry that blue light doesn’t control water, but helps purify it instead. This doesn’t help much, though, because it still means that, if ancestors were more human, you could point at someone and say “purify their blood into pure water” and also insta kill them
Trust us you do NOT want to create etherial fire soul butterflies.
I have a feeling it would take more than an ancestor to wield the power of fire in such a way they can do drastic and horrible stuff like this.
An elder, however... maybe there's a reason Dusk sought it as seen in Prophecy.
If the light that makes up butterflies and the inner part of a skykid is the same, could a group of butterflies inhabit a discarded skykid shell and pilot it around? Like a bunch of butterflies wearing a skykid shaped trenchcost
No, it’s too dark.
gestures at Eden
So many of the elemental lights come with instakill switches and it’s oddly funny to me. You can use orange light or blue light to just pilot people around and steal their light. You can use cyan light to steal all the air from around them, suffocating them, or manipulate air pressure and crush them to death. Use purple light to just manifest an object inside someone’s lungs, or a piece of darkstone inside a light creature. And so on
So there also might be different forms/levels of light
- Concentrated light, birds and light creatures
- WL (out light, light that only we can touch)
- Corrupted light
- Natural Light!
Hey Salem just asking, did you watch ATLA
No I keep forgetting to. Why, does stuff like this happen?
This is very interesting, but this game should stay wholesome and atop with the Atla and Lok references.
yea the airbending one's air out of their lungs thing happened in Legend of Korra multple times
Maybe not in avatar but definitely Kora this would happen
‘Wholesome’ is not one of the words I would use to describe Sky lore in its current state. Everyone is dead.
My personal take on the lights is that they can't necessarily control things(it gets a bit iffy with purple light) but instead they use their magic along with the resources they find or detect around them to essentially "create" things or purify other things. Like blue could use the hydrogen and oxygen atoms in the air to make H2O and create water. Or it can separate the water from excess molecules like darkness.
the game has a lght wholesome side and a grim dark side
Sky is wholesome with the fact it doesn't have gore. It's just depressing and has really dark topics with shiny art work
The game is wholesome in its tone but it’s undertone is darker, way darker. Like makeup
I get your point but the horrors of violent premature death are indeed in the game, albeit not so detailed.
On the other hand, yeah, not sure I'm gonna add much to a convo like this, so that's my cue to tap out, peace ✌️
Stay hydrated and don't overdo it, chat.
Also, I get that you probably didn’t mean anything by it, but the way this is phrased sounds like you’re trying to shut down the conversation because it’s too dark. Dismissing or silencing ideas because they’re too dark and/or wholesome is rude at best, and comes off as a little funny given the lore
I wonder if there's a word for something wholesome in a bittersweet way. That's what Sky is.
Valley Elder(s) def used cyan light to cheat at races
That’s what I was thinking too… I feel like wasteland would be the best candidate for the instakill switch, but also that they would hate using it :( ow
Nope not at all, I’m really interested in the dark aspects, just trying my best to make sure no one gets uncomfortable.
I am here to stop the slander
They made a bet with Isle elder once and cheated there too. Since no one had proof of that or even knew of it, Isle elder lost the bet. Thus the Isle of Dawn began desertification at the hands of the twins.
I'll be honest, I get squicked by long descriptions of blood. It's interesting to think about but sometimes I'm just not in the mood to talk about how to maim with an orb 😅
This theory is very cool, i see how it can be too dark for people though
Melancholy
I get it. I wasn’t trying to go super dark with this discussion, was just trying to show how scary the lights would actually be. I got too carried away/excited with talking about it, bc they’re one of my favorite subjects, but I can stop :(
Theory that just popped to mind, what if the light creatures where all ancestor spirits who where turned into light creatures after someone killed them with light?
Are sky kids orphans?
Found family, but probably
hey no worries, no one is hushing you just some don’t like darker topics
depends on how you would define an orphan. without parents? yea, orphans (unless you count Megabird as their parent). without family? no, not orphans, skykids befriend each other and love each other, building thier own sort of family.
megabird is absolutely their parents... spaghettimom!!!!
we HONK too violently to be alone
Enchantment makes me emotional bc you got the midlife crisis realm that's hostile and miserable, and this season is a glimmer of hope in the mud, like a hobby adults have that gives them hope, or something they indulge in where they can feel vulnerable.
These spirits are struggling but in the end it pays off, their ark is a pearl in the desert. A place safer than the rest of the realm.
A shelter in a hostile world...
Megabird is an absence parent to the sky kids. They sure aren't paying child support either lol
Found family! The Best troupe in my opinion
it was my first real season and GOD i love it for this reason
megabird is trying her best she's the god of death those arent usually known for hangin around the mortal world!!!! /LH
Ancestor/spirit: Oh Mega Bird, please tell me, am I being reborn?
Mega Bird: Yes, but since you sucked at life it may not be exactly what you're hoping for.
later
Ancestor/spirit/ now manta: really..... Frog you Mega Bird....
I'm trying to remember if sanctuary or enchantment was my first season I don't remember the order
Ghost manta rays made me sad when i first played
Enchantment crew going thru it. I hope scare got lifetime supply of flowers during DoB to bring back to the squad in the Ark.
The ones in vault?
Those ones are most likely artificial.
If anyone is interested, there’s a whole convo about wasteland and theories to why it’s like that and the different areas.
yeah, but moth me was crying for them
This makes a lot of sense.
That’s not what I’m trying to say. I don’t feel like I’m getting hushed or anything, because I’m stopping on my own, not because of other people trying to stop me. Was just a little sad because the lights are a really interesting topic to me that I barely get to talk about beyond enchantment, is all.
The implication that Megabird is death is a bit weird but if you think about it, it makes sense
Megabird isn’t active in the world they created, they don’t need to. They know that in the end everyone becomes one with them.
But also Megabird did create us
Surprisingly serious though otherwise silly question (bc this sorta stuff is actually pretty good for characterization) : do you think megabird would fall for updog? i personally think she would, and then just... not get the joke!
Megabird seems more of a monotheistic god type thing. Creator of all, brings life but also responsible for death and destruction
Like old people who don’t get jokes but are ‘hip’
Don't worry, you got your point across ! Elements truly can be scary when wielded in a smart but malevolent or uncaring manner.
I think I'm gonna go play Min-craf.
BYYYYEEEEEEEEE!!!!
The deity of creation and destruction, the one of balance.
Megabird has the experiences of everyone and everything who has ever lived and died before you. Skykids do not.
Conclusion: Megabird would be the one telling us the updog joke and then having to explain
they MADE updog pffff
Anyway goodnight lore chat !
Technically dog isn't really a true species in sky so . . . What's uporeo?
I-
see, on a serious, "this is how it canonically probably is" level i completely agree! This makes sense, this fits the lore. however i still can't help but be drawn towards the idea of megabird just sorta being "very good mama who is trying her darned best to give all her kids the attention they deserve"
The next time the skykid dies, they go up to orbit smirking. When asked why they look so smug they say “hey, doesn’t it smell like upbird in here?”
UPBIRD
There’s a dog in prairie that you can unlock with 7 players
Yeah, oreo
Counterpoint: skykids are only orphans (in the definition of without parents) before they meet belonging guide
So moths are younger siblings?
oh- is it okay if i share a headcanon about Eden right now? its a screenshot of something i typed earlier today in another server but i checked it over to make sure it was fine to post and i just. dont particularly want to type it allllll out again
Yeah !
(the blank space in the last line was bc i had to censor a swear, like i said i checked it over as well as i could)
I love this theory, bug zapper has me in tears
OKAY THATS HARSH BUT COOL, I LOVE IT
i like it except well, if we're just giving light to dead things which might not need it, then ... what about the ascension
The power diamond, it’s like a black hole? Sucking the light in?
Wow this a pretty original theory for Eden. Most of our theories are just "they love each other so they go through Eden to save friends :))))))"
Well, your skykids already dead by then- Maybe the winged lights you see in that cutscene is just what they think is going on! after all, these are kids, and kids are known for having fairly active imaginations
It's a worm hole that takes them to the after life and they get spit out again
Also hi! Another add on from me
I have a similar theory, mostly brought on by my own WL theory, but the calling starts earlier, by the isle elder
Maybe the statues are sky kids, but maybe they’d be ascended without us anyway? Because we know how many we saved based off of rewards BUT we don’t fully see how many in cutscenes - right?
fun fact: if you die in Eden without ascending any winged light, you will get one glowboi in the cutscene in Orbit. have fun with that
i feel like theres quite a few points in the game where whats actually happening probably doesnt match what you see, soley because you're seeing it from the Skykid's perspective. They're young, they have a big imagination, they think they're a big important main character, all those things that kids just do that could effect how the story is shown. Like, surely the elders didn't all gather in the vault elder's Purgatory™️just to say thanks to this one specific kid out of the hundreds that pass through their temples every day. Maybe they were there already and you just sorta barged in on 'em and they decided to humour you!
oh WOW okay, that’s good to know!
I haven't been to Eden in a hot minute I should probably consider doing that again yikes
oh oh oh- i never even mentioned my skykid statuefication headcanon here did i- here goes bc i think this ones neat
i headcanon that the way skykids turn to stone in Eden isn’t just an Eden thing- It’s sort of... a built in defence mechanism? You see, normally what would happen is that, when they get critically low on light- Lower than they're able to exaust themselves on their own through flight, meaning something would have to be actively draining their light- A skykid will turn to stone to protect the rest of their light, sort of like how a possum plays dead or a turtle hides in its shell. Theyll stay like that for a while, usually either until someone comes along and helps restore their light, or until their light returns on its own- Since they're completely petrified, no light can (usually) get out, meaning itll keep building up until they're at a safe level again. It's a completely involuntary response, though, so its probably terrifying when it does happen.
Now, Eden is a different story. The darkness in Eden is impossibly thick, almost tangible, and this... messes up their petrification response. the darkness can pierce the stone like it wasn’t there, meaning that a skykid that turns to stone in Eden will just die. But that's the exception, not the rule, and it usually works very well.
and that is my headcanon about why skykids turn to stone in eden because i like thinking about how fictional species work and the statue thing was really interesting to me
Apologies for that wall, i just really like... is speculative biology the right word here? i dont know if its the right word i just like taking these funny magical fictional species and just figuring out how they work. i like to take the fictional species from games i like and push them away from just being "humans, but Not"
for example, i also think that you can scruff a skykid like a cat. I think you can do that. Do i have anything to back this claim up? No. But i will not change my mind
It’s cool! Sometimes lore chat is sneepy
Maybe skybot is hinting us something about moths
I'm too tired to ramble about skykid physiology but oh I am so with you on this
Wait, that’s an amazing idea because only light - the safety net for us is why we stay from being petrified/being reborn
YEA i think when megabird made the skykids she knew she wouldn't be able to help them if things went terribly wrong... like the ancestors later did. she made sure they could stay alive and care for eachother without her help even if she so dearly wanted to be involved with them
Yeah, she doesn’t want us to become memory spirits - well I would assume
Defense mechanisms don’t always work or are the smartest, we see that with many species in our actual world
Something i think about often related to all this is that... if megabird wanted people, she already had the Ancestors, she couldve made more after they wiped themselves out. Instead, she made a bunch of silly little kids. Silly little kids who honk and fly and play and help eachother and care for eachother even in such a quiet, old, dying world. Did she really want people like the ancestors, or were the skykids just... her kids?
What if Ancestors were a generation of sky kids, a different type that grew and,,, this is what happened. war,death, etc. each gate symbolizes the paths through life right? so we go through each and get reborn UNLIKE ancestor spirits
We stay kids as to prevent what happened to the ancestors, it’s why we have their memories. learn from history
also sorry if my ramblings have been confirmed or denied, i want to know more lore but i don’t remember/know it all since so much happened since i joined during enchantment
Lore chat isn't about being 'correct/canon' so no worries! It's all about fun
Thanks :) I just realized i may sound dumb 
I gotta sleep in a moment but the fun with headcanons is... it doesnt have to follow official lore! Heck, half the time i actively ignore canon lore if it doesn't vibe with me! The lore is like silly putty in your hands! go! Create your ideal version of the story! make skykids scruffable or the same as ancestors or literal bird people if you want! the lore is your oyster! /genuine
oh okay, that makes me feel better! sleep well though :) i love all your theories!!
can someone tell me the lore kinda off
We don't have a lot of 'canon' but we still have enough lore to where you need to be specific about what you wanna know
who are like the elders whats their storys and like what happened for us to have to give our light to spirits in eden
We don't know a whole lot about the elders. We know they were the leaders of their specific realms and there was a king of all the kingdom. We also know there was an apocalypse of some sort. We currently theorize it was the big red diamond going out of control.
Ok so in the dreams theatre. Eden is shown how we see it. Y’all things there might be an implication behind this?
https://sky.163.com/m/news/official/20220413/26689_1012705.html
NetEase (company that runs china server) just released an interview with TGC’s artist Yui on Abyss, with loads of concept pic
There are more in the link
(Hungry lore gang appears)
I wonder if TGC will release these on international server’s platforms
QG and commodore were father/daughter in tgc’s brainstorming process
wow
WE WERE ROBBED SO HARD OH MY GOD THOSE CONCEPT DESIGNS
RAVEN MASK,, BEETLE MASK, KRILL THEMED MASK
krill themed mask honors the enemies they fight
they fought bloody krills and lived!?!?
Thats some hardcore spirits
Thats some Ground: Adults of the dark stuff there ( please excuse me im in a weird mood today-) This is the group cannoneer wanted to be in 
In the interview, Yui said the stories in the old murals concepts is quite different to the final ver.
At the end they decided to not to say much abt the monster on mural, and leave it as a mystery.
I do wonder why abyss spirits are carrying/ decorating their costumes with small power crystals.
( thinking what those small crystals can do)
bracers with small power diamonds
(diamonds maybe augment fighting strength?)
LIGHT LOSS
DARK POLLUTION
SPIRITS CAN LOSE LIGHT
DARK POLLUTION REAL
why do I keep predicting things with my fanfiction?
(context, this happened a lot when I wrote Minecraft fics)
Good food 
we've been given a feast
Brief translate :
“In the end, we decided to use a group of "treasure hunters" as the main characters for the story. And let them have basic tools they needed to survive the harsh environment.
We imagined that they may fish for living, but they wont overtake from nature or fight others for resources. As scavengers, their resources were gifts from the nature, and they respect nature.”
In early concepts, we imagined spirits sailed in flying boats, got hit by a storm and crashed onto Treasure Reef, where they explored the area and repaired the boat through scavenging
Other paragraphs in the interview are similar to wt u see from the english captions of the concept illustrations^^
That's very nice of you to provide a translation, chinese is hard.
Going mental over my headcanon spirits are light creatures too getting another crumb.
And dark pollution............
Lore gang is well fed today 
My friend found the lightseekers article, I am,,,
Im pleased you have the brain cells to have thoughts - unlike me
Grabbing and shaking the lightseekers in my hands, they are on my mind whenever.
me with floppy plushies-
Abyss crew
me fibding the tlp article
What lightseeker article👁👁
This one !
https://sky.163.com/news/official/20191008/26689_836105.html
Do you see anything interesting here ?
Ummm i dont see any lore info 👀, it is a very official and poetic promotion blog
Aw :( thank you for checking out for me !
Could someone please explain where is Eden elder or what happened to them?
hmm....
Making up lore for you own character would make it fan lore, right?
It is a fun idea, though the chat is more focused on the lore found in the game and from content around the game from official sources (ex. dev quotes, posts, concept art etc.).
A better place to talk about OC lore could be the #cozy-sky-discussion chat or the #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat channel
about what?
Got a spirit theory (pardon me if there is any spelling mistakes i’m dyslexic)
Maybe the spirits are the other childrens of light who got stuck in a limbo after eden and can only get in contact with the mortal world when they recently die, get summoned or have their light (the blue floating thing forgot the name,) placed in some kind of tombstone. Like when an event happens it’s their memories we unlock to get in contact with them or when a TS comes they either spawn next to something that symbolisez them or what concept they’re in or get summon on the stone thingy that is covered by water
The Eden Elder is believed to be Resh and Alef, the King and the Sky Prince respectively.
These characters were features in early concepts for the game, during Light Awaits, though upon the global release (Sky: Children of the Light), the focus of the story line changed.
While the King can no longer be saved, he is not gone from the world of Sky. According to dev quotes, these character are present in the game in another form.
The focus of the current lore in the game seems to be more about the relationship of the spirits and the skykids saving them instead of the skykids meeting the elders and Sky inhabitants (spirits)
I’m actually dumb, just into lore n’ stuff.But thanks for the compliment!
The spirits are the ghosts of the Ancestors that are not able to pass on to the after life.
The skykid save them and help them do so, while spirits stay to help the skykid in return.
I am not dismissing your idea entirely though, seeing I am not certain about the possibility of an ancestors can be a skykid, or a skykid can become an ancestor.
The ancestors could have been children at some point in their lives, but the age they appear to us might be an indicator that some of them died young. For instance the Abyss questgiver is young, and the group from season of Assembly are the youngest group of ancestors we have seen so far.
That’s a better theory ngl, my theory is kinda off too
perhaps work out a short introduction and ask if there are other folks interested to hear the character.
Most importantly, it would be the purpose of the character.
If they are part of a story, then it is the character arc and development you would need to focus on to help drive the plot.
If it is roleplay dedicated, then leave room for the character to grow as you interact with other people through the character.
If it is a personal project, then it could be anything.
I have a question!
Besides the krabs. Why are there no other four legged creatures in sky?
Can someone give me all the Elder names in sky?
no worries.
I do something similar to that just for fun with my ingame skykid.
While the majority of the skykid is just projecting my personality through the player character. I like to keep a few tidbits as canon lore for the character.
Just as an example, the skykid would commonly wear animal masks (preferably a bird mask) with the bird call to match. This just ties into the character being a flyer. As for the adventurous part, the skykid goes to Eden often and would not shy away from danger. That does not mean they are fearless though as they would voice their concerns at times.
The skykid is also nomadic because they enjoy exploring the regions and would not like to be tied to one place to return to each time.
I like to think of the skykid us players get to play as, help players express themselves in a way that they might have had trouble doing so irl, before playing the game. They help build confidence in meeting friends, and learning how to deal with situations.
The game is emotional and uses that theme to drive the plot.
There were concept art for deer.
Perhaps since the majority of the creatures in sky are aquatic animals, including land animals would stand out.
At least in the game, we can include the turtle now as a 4 legged creature.
My sky kid is me but committing arson.
Why there shield and sword in the entrance of the eden? Any theories?
You're gonna find the two shields theory in the wastelands interesting !
I have a little theory in my head that i believe, it involves the first sentence-ish of @stone portal 's beautiful theory- Mine here is that spirits were essentially ancestors which never got the chance to make the pilgrimage to eden ( which i believe is was a temple ), and died during the explosion ( or after due to explosion suffering aftereffects.). Hence these ancestors ( with many of them dying out altogether due to not having a strong connection to the land- ill explain this if you'd like ) left behind their memories and abandoned their bodies, becoming the spirits we see today. ( Forgive me for me pinging you- dunno
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Oh and Raider- Not sure if you'll see this BUT YOUR SKYCRAFTING CHALLENGE SUBMISSION✨ - you deserve some tea ^^ 🍵
Unfortunately, there’s no tea in Sky. But still, your submission looks really good Raider!
The days of bloom table say otherwise
OH WAIT YEAH.
This implies that there are tea leaves in Sky, and thus tea farmers. We need a season of Tea
you can make tea out of more than just tea leaves
Season of flowers- chamomile tea and jasmine tea have risen-
I'm going on a spree to screenshot every single mural in sky that I can find amd sort them from start (isle) to finish (eden) to try and piece together the lore. should i include or exclude seasonal areas?
Include- Seasonal places have even more lore ^^
seasonal areas can be part of the lore, as they give more info of what happened in the world of Sky.
Wait, there’s already a doc for that!
there is?!
Salem's doc?
are there more docs like this?
As in, more mural docs or more lore docs in general?
More as in the ones beside this specific mural one and the other stories doc in pinned messages
Yes! There’s a list of them in a separate server, but I’ll DM some of them

Thanks, so the lore doesn't tell or any theories where the king went or why, just as here you are saying he "can't be saved" - from oblivion caused by tgc decision but in lore - from what?
It’s believed that he can’t be saved by or from anything- no Elder, Skykid, or creature can save him. A theory is that the King became a part of the Eden Storm
WOAHH hoping to see them in future seasons!
Ok does it elaborate how or why he became part of the storm?
The theory goes according to the old lore (Light Awaits), that there was an ark of spirits and elders trying to get away from corrupted creatures attacking them. There was an explosion and then came the restless and chaotic Storm.
Since the current lore (Children of the Light) has deviated from that plot, it is uncertain what has changed and what remained.
Not exactly, unfortunately. We can only infer. if most creatures die, they simply ascend to Orbit. Since we can’t find any evidence of the King in Orbit, it’s assumed they’re still in the Sky world, as the Storm.
I still think there's a giant shipwreck atop Eden
For what it is worth, his body could still be in Eden.
Since we never see his spirit, one can only thoerise that his spirit could be somewhere else.
This might be what lead to the appearance of the children of Light (winged light), or some other form of the King that prevents his soul from coming to rest.
Yeah, there’s also theories that we are reincarnations of the King, or that Winged Light are the King’s soul shattered into pieces.
Ah yes.
Vela has made a compelling observation that the wreck at the very top of the mountain, but under the floating part of the castle, is the fable Eden Ark.
While the season of Enchantment introduced a location called the Forgotten ark, it is unclear if this vessel would be either part of the fleet, or perhaps a representation of what happened to the other flying ships of its class.
Agreed,
While being objective and open not theories about the winged light, there is very little solid evidence about them.
There seems to be no pattern, rhyme or reason to where they appear of why. Yet they are vital to the core plot of helping the skykid in their journey of saving more spirits and the statues in Eden.
What is certain, all of them appear as children, have no cape, hair, or accessories, wear standard skykid clothing, may take on different poses (though this is mostly apparent in Eden) and are likely made of stardust based on the starry form that remains in their place and the twinkling sound the make.
I suspect they might have differing heights, though I may be wrong as most encounters with them are of consistent heights, albeit it being they are a bit smaller than a standard skykid.
Found the image that I meant to attach to the reference to the King's body in Eden. This also mentions the Prince being here as well.
The mention, Bird of Light, is another name for Megabird.
While there are theories implying these characters are one and the same, or two entities.
it is uncertain if in the current lore, there is in fact a King and a Prince to meet in the game.
Adding to the king in Eden part, there was someone that managed to find out that in the game files, there name for the sound/music playing in the void/limbo state in Eden, where you hug the light kid, is called King Hug.
I assumed they’re vessels of light sent to help us.
I'm part of the nerds that see boats everywhere. Boat vision.
Once you see it, you can never unsee it XD
Tom Zhao boat. Looks like candle cake.
It's a bit deepfried because it's a screenshot of a screenshot taken on android.
enhancing.....
muralising.... XD
😳
It does look like candles on an Ark.
The details line up pretty well.
Pretty certain thats Yui Tanabe’s art, not tom zhao’s fwiw!
Does that mean the assembly spirits did not make it to the Arc so they tried living and surviving in the sky world making a place to call 'home' till they die?!
Mant of the pen and ink drawings we’ve seen are Yui’s art 
The mural was cropped from this image on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1284265052481056768
I am not sure if the Tom's, since it does not mention the artist.
But seeing he was the lead concept artist of the time, it would be safe to assume it is.
The other image is from TomZhao's website: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5cf9836e9d1c5200018df596/1582059389689-8VVFCJVTZVFNN20KLTL6/133b_Sky.jpg?format=2500w
if you can source it, I will admit to being wrong. 🤝
The first link you shared is Yui’s artwork! Theyre all the pen and ink drawing style. Best source i can grab at the moment is this art piece (which is the same style) which is done by Yui Tanabe who is the lead artist of Sky
https://www.thatskyshop.com/blogs/designer-insight/ocean-meets-sky-canvas-bag
“YUI TANABE is the Lead Artist and has been with thatgamecompany since 2012.”
The timeline image from Tom’s website seems to be a mixture of both Yui’s and Toms concepts-you can tell by the art styles!
I only share this info incase it may help you source images 

Also moment of appreciation for my fave concept sky creatures, moosatees, the early concept version of mantas! (image from link above)
imagine them hopping around
ok, had to look up a few things.
The styles are similar and the drawing was collaged (combined) with other drawings with varying art styles.
It is possible that different artists' works were combined with Tom's drawings on his website. Though I had trouble finding Yui Tanabe's work posted online to compare directly.
TLDR; I was wrong to assume every drawing on Tom Zhao's website was his own. I do hope we can find out who were the artists that made these drawings, seeing if not every single one was not done by one artist and credited accordingly.
Apologies to @icy pewter
Oh its all good! Concept art for games and films is often a collaborative effort, so there can be a lot of mixing going on that can be hard to decipher!
I wish yui posted more of his work online, he has such great stuff 😭
Agreed.
Any artist deserves their name to be with their work.
Even if it was a collaborated effort, it would be greatly appreciated if the contributors were at least mentioned.
I think he does show some work however in the 2020 (or2019?) Gnomon talk he did with Aaron, Cecil, and Trev! Link is somewhere in the pins 
Thought: The skykid is made of a body, its soul and light it obtains
There is only the body and soul at the beginning of the game
Winged light should be pure light, in that case
(eden and ending spoilers)
||When a skykid dies in Eden you lose your light and the soul separates from the body||
||The statues could be a skykid's body and soul trapped in darkness (you give it light so it can go into orbit)||
||When you fly into orbit, the skykid has no body, it is just the soul and light it received from the winged light in the "eden void thing" (???)||
||Then when you are reborn, you get your body back with additional light||
Reminder to anyone writing long texts to copy and save your work.
lest the bot gets triggered and deletes the whole thing without warning
I drew a tiny moth
#sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat message
Very cute ❤️
In my math notebook as well. Tiny
I have found that the 7 worlds represent the realms in Tibetan Book of the Dead, and which are which is based on colours but also the Elders and themes, these represent the remedies for those realms... so that Isle = human realm - blue but also the elder has the staff, so does the buddha of human realm; Prairie = deva realm (beauty, all is well, flowers, floating palaces); forest = hungry spirits (water kills you, shivering); Valley= skygoers' realm (they climb towards sky, hermit is a practitioner, carnevalism,) GW = asuras (green, battle), Vault = animals (buddha of that realm reads books + remedy colour is blue), Eden = hell realm
{ 👀 }
Please say there is a link 🙏🙏
Link please, this is interesting
No, but you can get Tibetan book of Dead anywhere
Ah
Also look at Wheel of life
hey is this the right place to go if i have sky lore headcanons 👀
i had an ||eden|| headcanon 👀
what if ||the eye of eden was actually the calmest realm before its corruption bc the eyes of storms r normally strangely peaceful||
|| and what if the wind paths all connected at the eye and the reason they stopped being used was bc the strong winds and storm walls/clouds were dangerous to fly in||
|| i also headcanon the storm in eden was once spread all throughout the realms but has been contained in eden and (potentially) wasteland for now, i want to say some energy was left in the clouds but not enough to be dangerous since it charges your wings||
I owe you my life
Man, I'm going to have so much fun making up names for the spirits I already have a Beth from Isle
As long as you clarify who or what you give headcanon names or nicknames to, then sure.
Ex. Daleth - Isle Elder/ Dawn Elder, or Percy being the nickname for the quest giver from season of Performance.
bursts in
omg i heard someone use my hc of refering to performance guide as percy
I like the name, should I give credit when I bring it up again?
oh no need unless you want to, i just find it really "woah" when someone brings it up 
Just for kicks, shall the rhythm quest giver have a nickname of Cassandra?
Just checking the responses here.
Cassandra?
sounds pretty epiv
for me personally i call them Rhys
Rhyseus and Perseus (Rhys and Percy haha)
The reason for cassandra is because Percy reminds me of a character in a story.
If anyone is interested, feel free to look up, Percival Frederickstein von Musel Klossowski De Rollo III
Now I'm imagining the King/Prince using chibi fall when approached with kingly duties
sniv here with her daily dose of "sky headcanons with little to no canonical backing aside from the simple fact tbat they bring me joy and might be of interest to others as well"!
I think skykids can have wildly different physical traits. not even in just the way humans do- im talking, like... some of them have tails, or horns, or their knees bend backwards or they have claws or feathery ruffs or any of that sorta stuff!
as an extension to that, and also since i headcanon them to be skykids- i headcanon that the valley twins have feather ruffs like some birds of paradise do. the kind that would lay flat until theh raise it, sorta like this
Floofy
Dw about the ping, and it sounded rather accurate
Do you mean digitgrade legs by saying “knees bend backwards”?? If not that might haunt me for a bit- (no offense i’m kidding)
Also, that’s some skills you got there!
OH yeah thats what i meant- forgot the word lol! thanks
hey, lore chat! i have a random question. so, can the memory boxes (is that what's it called) be read? or is it just skids who cant read? if it can be read, how exactly can it be read?
sorry if that is confusing 
ping me if someone replied pls :)
incredible.
wait the Abyss concept sketches and ideas are amazing, but maybe it was too soon for us to get that deep lore? I mean darkness pollution??? FIGHTING KRILL?? CAN WE ONE DAY FIGHT KRILL?
Sure! Beth being the Pointing Candlemaker
Yes it's just baded on 1+1, not that it's anywhere like a planning blueprint or smth
Only my ideas - me putting 1+1 together
what if krill taste like chocolate. i wadna lick one
Oh that’s where that’s from. I started calling Performance guide Percy for some reason and knew it wasn’t my idea but it stuck in my head. It just works so well for them — the vibes, yknow
Imagine if they present Percy as shorthand for the stage name that’s like a drag name, say “my name is Prince Percival the Precious but yall can call me Percy. My parents had great taste in style.”
(somewhere in the audience Rhythm guide shouts “nah their name is just Percy” and Performance guide shouts back “shut up”).
canon
OHHHH THIS IS SO COOL WOWOOOUOOO I AM GOING TO RELIVE THEIR MEMORU TO CHECK FOR DARKNESS PLANTS
yeah but still epic tho
canoneer concept designs are showing me how gay i truly am , thanks canoneer for the reminde
What’s the second word? I can’t read it… embernation??
ultimate celebration
(Alef/Resh)
It doesn’t look like celebration. The b is in a weird spot without an l in front of it
Hmm true
THIS REMINDED ME OF A HEADCANON I HAD WHWRE, IF YOU GAVE FHE ELDERS ENOUGH LIGHT, THEY COULD START PROJECTINF REALLY VIVID COLORS/PATTERNS/SIMILAR TRAITS. I MDE THE TWINS BIRD THEMED ANS VELA DREW IT LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT
Embarkation…??????
I’m pretty sure it is embernation but it’s really hard to tell. if true , new word for Sky kingdom :0 ?
Embernation isn’t a word but embarkation is
IT IS???
HEHEHEHE i think the twins deserve cool bird traits tbh. After everything that happened they deserve to be Weird Birds™️
YOOOO DOES THAT MEAN THATS THE ARK BEING LOADED WITH PASSENGERS???
OHHH THIS MIGHT BE RELATED TO THE ARK CONCEPT
HOLY MOLY
random, but does anyone have any theories over why seasonal spirits leave and then come back only for 2 days when theyre traveling? and why does the season of assembly guide still give out rewards?
assembly guide still gives out awards like every other guide since enchantment guide, yeye
not much behind this thought but I've been thinking that ascended spirits can only be separate from the Light for so long, hence why spirits descend for a set period of time.
They just come back to say hi :-)
moth: I thought we were supposed to ascend the sprits? why are they back?
vet: oh they come down sometimes to pay us a visit
moth: but we can visit them in Orbit
vet: do you want to die every time?
moth: ...no
Hey does this mean spirits that like… practically never show up just don’t want to say hi to us 
I don’t feel like I did anything to deserve that— 
maybe they’re cautious given the darkness in the world could still petrify them. or Megabird only sends a few spirits at a time for the same reason.

Or maybe they don’t like us
I don’t think so. why would they dislike the cute children who saved them? also they give gifts before the ascended and wing buffs when we’re getting reborn so they obviously like us to some degree
I had some lore ideas about this old thing... so many of my lore ideas are based on things that aren't in the game anymore:
#screenshots-and-videos message
Looks like Office mural
YOU BWAT ME AGAIN. this is what I get for rambling about Latin I guess. Smh
yeah it appeared on the mountain when you forged a candle... before it became the office thing
I tend not to think of anything office-related as loreworthy, other than that image
Elaborate? I'm curious.
OH, okay thank you
i just find it odd they come for awhile and then only appear back for 2 days,, and it hasnt ever been a season guide as a traveling spirit has it?
no, guides don't come back, either cos they didn't ascend (debatable) or cos their ult gifts aren't coming back ever (gameplay mechanic)
gotcha! i thought so but it would be cool
Flight guide ascended in the final quest cutscene so I imagine they come back every once in a while to check on the wind paths
oh that would be cute
Wait wha? Flight guide ascended??
Could be something of their apprenticeship with the elder (do elders ascend in any sense?)
if you replay the final Flight quest cutscene, you see them ascend with the rest of the crew
do you think skykids also turn into the light essence before they're reborn? (refer to acid rain theory) And what exactly is IN the big Eden light? is it the sun? a star? Essentially a way to paradise that skykids aren't able to achieve due to the fact that they have a destiny to fullfill in the realms of the skylands? Are the creatures we see in Eden also reborn? Do skykid minds get essentially factory reset once they are reborn? What is inside the light? Why does it take us to orbit instead of a beautiful paradise like how it is described by many? (no matter how one may percieve it, why isn't it like that?) Will our skykids one day be able to finally rest in paradise and not get reborn?
I gotchu fam
wait is the first pic from light awaits??? or are those just old things and quests that were scrapped?
Yes you’re right. It’s an old screenshot that gets passed around. But both things you said are true.
This is a really weird question, but has anyone here not ascended spinning mentor OR any of the base game spirits? If so, can you call one of them down for me and record them for a few seconds? I just noticed something and I want to see if it’s true.
I saw the first picture Alexdolly linked. The second is Zhao’s concept art, not in game.
WHY do you have a breathing animation. (Edit. Hold on, mentors recording isn’t that great, I’ll get a better on)
nobody told them they’re supposed to be dead
they are dead but uh. they do carry over a lot from life I guess
can choose to do stuff they did to live but no longer need to to survive I think
It gets even funnier. Performance guide doesn’t have a breathing animation in home, but they DO have one in the village theater. Maybe they’re just doing it to mess with us??
My question is- is that a breathing sound effect or a windy sound effect?
Most likely wind considering the location
Wait, i mean what if breathing is a habit?
There was a theory ( most likely on reddit but probably wouldve been mentioned on discord) that the king built the enchantment ark to take his followers along with him to megabird ( forgive me if this is incorrect
). The little white figure we see before the orbit pathway is called king hug ( i once again might be incorrect ). Perhaps the king still wanted all his followers to go to megabird. hence destroying himself using ounces of power to send us up into orbit. Maintaining the look of a white skykid, because he is pure. ( im sorry if this is incorrect
)
^^ i thought this was fascinating
that's been that way since the TS system was introduced. spirits from the previous season won't enter the TS pool until the next season passes
So you’re saying it’s possible for my favorite spirit talented builder to show up within this year?
given it took one Dreams spirit over a year to show up, very unlikely but possible
Yes, but probably not 
I just want lamplighter to show up I want that hat and cape
i want the dream spirit with the bunny mask 
I want to snatch double five's hat 👒
i wonder when they will bring back the season guides as TS
probably not
By the way.....your pfp is cool ^^
oh thank you!! i love high rise invasion
oh i thought that TGC said they would incorporate their gifts some way
I never heard of such. since ult gifts are time limited to the seasons, I doubt they'd make bring those back
:0 oh okies
TGC actually did state in the 2nd anniversary live stream that they want to find a way to bring back the previous season ults, but its just teally difficult to find the balance between veterans who already have it and new players who want it and don’t have it. Though at the moment I wouldn’t expect to see any return for A WHILE.
there's no need to post screenshots, you can just drop a message link to the beginning of the conversation
Also, if we were interested, we’d go back and read it. You don’t need to post it and mention it over and over again; the conversation has already happened. It’s getting a little annoying at this point honestly
Happy?.
Thank you for deleting them! Helps keep the channel from being clogged up :-)
Alrighty, I can be quite an idiot sometimes.
There was nothing idiotic about that, thank you for accepting salem's request

I was trying to respond to a post… sorry for the confusion
Thinking about Abyss concepts of what looks like corrupted creatures, leviathan designs
Looks like those cute giant isopod things at the top
I’ll post this in the fanart sketches channel in a minute, I just wanted to share this concept here first. I mean, this is the first place I shared some of my concepts at, so I thought some of you would enjoy it. Now I need to explain them.
NOTE: The quality in this photo is worse than the real picture. There are a fair amount of details that you cannot see here.
Image 1. A massive sea of clouds where a once highly populated big prairie village lay. Each house is close to 15 or so laying skids apart(most likely more), the area is so massive, you’ll likly be discovering new things months later.
Image 2. An area of isle that hasn’t been seen in maybe a century or so due to a cloud flood(blockage)that has stubbornly decided to stay. Traces of old isle tradition remain intact, but feels kinda off inside this desert.(its pretty much the land forms from the background of old isle from the switch trailer)
Image 3. The Twilight Dunes, an morbid, lifeless desert and massive graveyard. A place where memories are repressed and killed. Full of horrors that shouldn’t be there, or sometimes even exist. The sands reflect blue light into your eyes, with a slight hint of purple alongside it.
Image 4. A spire from The King’s grand castle in eden, that has become exposed to the light and is at last unaffected by the storm. While none of the damage can be undone, life has a chance to once again take root within these soils
NOTE: Eden spire is MUCH bigger than it may seem
A grumpy lil guy.
They look like dandelion leaves!!! I really love top right guy, the stubby little legs are so adorable
You’re right, the long jagged stretches
YES!!!!
Salad creature
[chops up the leviathan and makes tea with it]
Did you wash it before preparing it ?
knowing Salem, no
YES I DID. SLANDER. I WASHED IT THREE TIMES
I'm putting the leviathan in this and spinning it rapidly.
That’s how you get all the corruption off!!
we did it, lorechat, we figured out how to reverse corruption
Megabird's gonna need a bigger one for the kingdom.
put the Eden diamond in a rock tumbler, should do the trick
AOEADSFGJFAFJKL
Comes out egg-shaped...
[sees corrupted spirit] [places them in salad spinner]
The abyss spirits probably need a nice long shower, so it might work.
Put Cannonneer in a salad spinner.
Flight guide would do this
HELP
Abyss crew tries to bully flight guide into letting them use the windpafhs. 5 minutes later they are being fed and given baths (like with a garden hose) like stray cats
Puts them in the dryer
The flight spirits have to have like a setup for bathing and shampooing mantas, right? Like the people who do that for dogs (I can’t say their actual name here…) imagine them using that on abyss spirits. Like, putting them in the bathtub, hosing them down with the nozzle,
Are you suggesting we use the veterinarian's animal bath for the Abyss crew
YES. that’s exactly what I’m suggesting.
I’m imagining Girl with the Dogs dealing with cats
YES THAT IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. putting the abyss in one of those astronaut globe head thingies so they can’t bite
Cannoneer gets muzzled
You know that meme of someone being like “found this stray dog, don’t know why it was so scared of me, gave it food and now it likes me more” and it’s a picture of a coyote? That but with the abyss crew
Isn’t there an idea somewhere that it rains all the time in forest because it reflects the forest elder being really sad all the time or something?…
Because I was thinking about how it doesn’t rain near granny’s table of belonging
…
Forest elder looks at granny giving little balls of darkness to skids:
. . . (:
please don’t put the leviathan in a salad spinner—
The forest elder pin poem might interest you 
If the flight spirits and abyss crew met, they would fight for like the first 10 minutes. The flight crew would win and then put them in the veterinarian animal bath while complaining about how much they stink. Abyss spirits are confused the entire time because they don’t know what soap is.
Canon
They're also confused a bunch of wind loving hippies beat them
Commodore cries cos the get podiatry
Light whisperer ever so gently pushes cannoneer off the island when they get too rough with a single bird
…
Oh what was that about they can’t fly—
The flight spirits have manta backup, also flight guide lifts pots up all the time. No one expects them to be that buff but they are anyways. Also they’re used to beating people with darkstone boats up
A manta prob stole Cannoneer’s harpoon
OMG manta With a gun
You think Talented Builder is the one you should fear, but that big guy wouldn't hurt a fly even if it bit him.
The guide however... You should know better than to threaten the place that's epitome of their dreams and ideals.
their pants are so under rated though.
Referring to talented builder.
They’d just chew on it or whack it on the chimes for nice noise
I vote on light whisperer secretly being absolutely feral and terrifying the whole abyss crew
I actually see the flight crew being really peaceful and avoiding conflicts, but it would be a huge mistake to see that as weakness. The Wind Paths managed to stay a bastion of light in the face of the storm after all...
Something about the mental image of flight guide hosing down cannoneer in a manta bath is sending me to actual tears. This would 100% happen if they were alive at the same time you cannot convince me otherwise
I find the Flight crew really, really good at conflict descalation
Who says they weren’t?
I just picture cannoneer accepting it—
I don’t know why but I can’t see them fighting-
Oh I'd 100% give the flight spirits water guns to run around on the main island with.
Every time the abyss spirits say a curse word, flight guide squirts them with a water bottle like you do with misbehaving cats
YES
EXACTLY
Abyss crew gets back at them by telling light whisperer about all the cool light creature fish they’ll never see
Light whisperer has yet to stop ranting to anyone that’ll listen
Light whisperer has definitely seen more light creatures than the abyss crew ever will
That's kind of sad...
I doubt light whisperer knows what an ocean is and you can’t convince me otherwise—
Isn’t there an ocean underneath the wind paths? + they seem really close to/ connected with sanctuary
There’s an ocean under the wind paths. They prob ride mantas down there to swim
isn’t that like- SUPER far down
I feel like that’s just a no return zone if you go down that far—
Not if you got flying creatures
Canon: abyss crew sanctuary vacation is how the polluted geyser was created. All the dark water in there is just what came off their clothes
Oh dear—
Cannoneer does a cowabunga in sanctuary, years later skykids flock to the area every other hour
The manta bathing hose isn’t strong enough, they had to resort to geysers to get all the dirt off
How many sky kids do you think it would take to hold cannoneers harpoon gun
2
The amount that takes to beat the valley twins in a fight-
Thats 58 and a half per elder 🤌 ✨
How was this calculated???
TRIAL AND ERROR??
I say 2 cos it’s about 2 skykids long
Someone told me.....in exchange for tethys hammer
What do u think the flight spirits would do if they saw the harpoon gun
Cannoneer turns around to two skids pointing their own harpoon gun at em
Good news is they’re very uncoordinated together
Look at the hair on the ancestor in this concept art, and look at the hair on yoga guru. Its strangly discolored, I wonder if this is some sort of genetic mutation, like albinism(creatures being albino.)
Try to confiscate it- but the wooly mantas would get to it anyways ^^
Skid hair can take on an orangish glow if in dark places
Colour changing hair ✨
Yes, but that picture is clearly in the light.
You’re in shadow
Can you get a pic of different hair in the same light to compare?? I could be missing something but the guru hair looks normal to me
Color changing hair but it works like those heat activated color changing cups
Sky kids hair: G L O W
comparisons from me making outfits earlier.
You should move into better lighting
ok, I am
I think a lot of hairs have slight hues to their shading to them if I’m not mistaken, or i heard something like that
Oh god prairie lighting 
Reminds me of that time Alasdair and I found out pants change your skin color slightly !
Gloat hair from
has green details while Rhythm hair
has blue ones !
As you noticed, it seems skykids’ skin changes color depending on what they’re wearing, though it’s always a dark color. I’m thinking that whatever color light their outfits project as can glow upon their dark skin, making it take on the hue of their outfits but not actually changing the color of their skin.
I’m thinking that the extinguished look — dark gray — may be the true color of their skin
I’m thinking something similar may happen with their hair. It’s white but can easily appear to change color by the glow of other colored objects.
Daylight parairie lighting alongside comparisons of other hairstyles.
Skin color in memory candles is gray. Worth a shot to see if there's shade differences or not.
Erythrism (excessive red coloring) or xanthochromism (excessive yellow coloring) maybe? It would be cool to see ancestors/skykids with color mutations, but it might just be the lighting
I’m sure skykids’ hair are definitely light but ancestors it’s debatable whether they’d be affected by genetic mutations
I like to think ancestors had dark skin with lighter freckles, like stars 
You remembered 
I THINK THAT TOO (gray being the actual color of their skin and their inner flame making it look brownish)
I just searched up the times I said “skin” and picked the message I sent before
i was looking through different hairs for the use of different coloured shading and why is mellows hair is so green/yellow-green HELPFJDKFBJ???
oh 
Just to be sure that the important video was seen, I’ll post it again./lh
I’m very sorry if you did see and this is iust a bit annoying, I’m really not sure if anyone saw it.
Ancestors with piebaldism/vitiligo… oooohh
Would be fun to see it with pants that change the skin color!
Canon lore fact: after their string cheeses kept getting eaten, juggler resorted to hiding them in their hair. This is why there’s a yellow streak
Guys, sad-ist is releasing a sky cotl animatic
we got white eyelids with yeti pants, id like to see more stuff like that with having unique attributes to pants
…. Ancestor hair dye…. Mellow musician would totally dye their hair wild colors
They're not basic.