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They 'guard glories'
crying and sobbing oh my god they r trying so hard despite everything aaah
look at them!!! theyre trying their bestest

ph my god these poems r making my brain go wbfbfbfbnsndmdnd
brain empty and full at the same time… the !!
normal rn
gwaaaaaah,,, knowing they [the lightseekers] somewhat failed hurts my heart
like the thought that wherever Crab Whisperer called home there were just a bunch of crabs waiting for them. Crab Whisperer opens the door and the crabs scream
There is always a time for crab
Hi
TIME FOR C R A B
there's poems???
OH WAIT THIS IS CONFINATION THAT THEY WERE NEAR OR PSOR APOC WHAT
Never a wrong time for Crab. 
MOTHER!!! WE HAVE LONG AWAITED YOU!!!! WE ARE STARVING!!! MOTHER—
IT MIGHT BE,
im surpirsed it mentioned the storm by name i was just “woa”
It says in the Isle pin
"We saw of your return to us"
There was a previous generation of skykids, or we were there before
gasp YOU PUNT CRABBETTE??? YOU PUNT CRABBETTE LIKE BEACHBALL???? JAIL FOR MOTHER! JAIL FOR ONE THOUSAND YEAAAAAARS!!!!
I think there was a previous generation, but they were different and not as “powerful” so to speak. Like, maybe they couldn’t fly like the ancestors and failed. Then we arrived, the “upgrade” and were outfitted with all the qualities necessary to complete our mission.
you've heard of crazy cat lady now get ready for crazy crab lady
Or alternatively…
yeah I’m gonna mention the king theory again here
do it
Near or Psorntoo
Guys please...
PSOR APOC
There are poems in sky???
not in the game itself but attached to the pins sold at thatskyshop
Ohhhhhhh...
their merchandise has a lot of fun stuff attached
The notebook has a thing about sky kids wondering if the Valley Elders would come and skate in the Village of Dreams. (and now I'm writing a fanfic about it)
I may be late to the convo but I am here for it
I dids it
btw some of it has art attached. Like the elders skating in the village of dreams
going wild over isle poem like
daleth ily
THE STORM ??? HELLO ???
LIGHTSEEKERS I AM RUNNING TOWARDS YOU AT ALARMING SPEEDS TO HUG YOU
FELT BOTH OF U
WHERE THERE ARE SOULS
WE SHALL SEEK
me 2 but don’t have w words
I wnat to hug them all esp Forest elder now
- Galloping in the wintery sea,
To the light, they fire a warm breeze.
Gifting guidance with unwavering love,
There, the courage needed comes from above." -
Wasteland Poem, discuss
what is that from, which pin ?
Have you seen the beta version of the Forest Elder cutscene?
WHAT NO WHAT IS TI
COURAGE COURAGE THE THING FROM PROPHECY OMGG AND WARM BREEZE
They wants us to fight but also like they understand if we need help and love and rest and I justttt wanna give them a hug and give them some snacks
Let me see if I can find it! It was different than our current one.
The old shop called it the Lightseekers cape pin, its shushing light scholars cape 
OOOOHHH ??? POGGERS
Courage from above definitely means the Skids coming down from the storm into the Wasteland. Galloping in the wintry sea likely refers to them making their way across Valley towards the storm. The warm breeze is likely the light from their candles that they take out, and they’ve been gifted guidance and love from the previous Elders.
The elders and ancestors my beloved, I want to hug them. They deserve soup and hugs and freaking therapy look at everything
also it seems recent store things tend to have the realm and an associated area (valley and dreams, gw and ark)
starlight desert merch for vault ppease leasplenapdldmdndmfndnd d 💥💥💥💥
I SHOULD SLEEEP SNORP BUT I WANT TO STAY HERE what should I do
AU where the disaster never happened because isle elder made everyone get therapy
VAULT ELDER IS FHE ONLY ONE WHO DIDNT GET A PIN SO FAR… vailt confirmed not real
vailt
Okay, so can someone tell me why is there a shrine-like structure from the Vault Of Knowledge, is there in Eye Of Eden as I ascend to Orbit?
There is a pin to summon oreo without waiting
Go to bed
Vealt
Isle Elder is the one who’s getting therapy
Isle Elder the Therapist Elder
It’s possible there’s two of them. One in Vault and one in Eden. Just like there’s two manta machines in Forest and Wasteland.
Hes been getting therapy and is making all of the other elders get it too
@frigid tinsel (we have the same headcanon)
Your name is literally Restless
Really? 
I’d say go to bed. Your mood can get a lot worse if you don’t sleep and you can even hallucinate if you don’t sleep for long enough.
? I was tagging someone that has the same explanation headcanon for this as I do and who likes to explain theirs
Just because I’m Restless doesn’t mean I can’t sleep, just means I can’t relax. Go to bed
Now fetch another cat (preferably bread-colored) and you have a full sandwich
i am cr uber once again
…Is it weird that I enjoy being the Uber?
Can I come?
https://youtu.be/bQTH0bLyvh4?t=6281 Found it! Hopefully the video starts at the right spot.
It was a completely different cutscene!
Im winding down to go to bed as we speak
I'm slowly clinging into the lore like heck
Welcome to the gang. 
Not even onto, but into. You have joined us
For the record, Isle and Valley also had different cutscenes in pre-launch beta too, if I remember right.
I’m just here to have a good time and give silly but plausible ideas
This channel is a mix of Sky COTL lore stuff and crazy memes all over
Because I saw weird stuff when I first talked here
ok I will explain instead then . ok so @ocean saddle the gist of the headcanon is that those statues summon the elders or have a connection to them somehow, hence why they’re in vault (cutscene where elders get summoned) and were in orbit castle for same purpose.
ALTERNATIVELY, a headcanon of mine that I just remembered is relevant here is that the place we die in pnr and part of where that statue is, was the former top floor of vault and the vault temple just got moved down later.
Unfortunately we don’t have too much info on how these statues work but here are some ideas
Valley OG cutscene definitely makes them look married
Exactly. It’s always fun to be here.
Yeah, I like the playful competitive feeling of our current cutscene more. 
Imagine if that was the original idea, somehow. That the two elders were not twins but married instead, but somewhere along the line it turned into Twins. I wonder how things would be different if that route had happened.
So, Eye Of Eden was the summit of Vault?
I'd be happy either way. I just really like the valley elders
Did math get filtered? I was trying to joke about the 3 day period where this channel was trying to calculate gravity
Apparently not
Valley elders in the OG cutscene were just Peter Pan. 
I can imagine vault elder trying to calculate the gravity of sky (and having more success because it’s easier to do stuff in a world you actually live in)
Here's a clip of the OG cutscene for Valley: https://youtu.be/bQTH0bLyvh4?t=7520
That is one theory, yes. It would make original Vault a lot bigger than it is now, and essentially Eden was not Eden, but it used to be Vault as well.
OOOOHHHHT HENK YOU IT LOOKS SO COOL… interesting it opens up the same way
Goodnight nerds/affectionate 
Mmm, I love that fluid body curl from
It's just so satisfying.
We found out that the Valley Elders accelerated as fast as Toyota Corolla, but it was debunked. Lorechat really is a productive place-
Maybe. It’s a theory thouh, not fact — I’m feeling too tired to post about it in detail atm, but in summary it’s based on how empty the vault temple is compared to the other ones, and how pnr seems directly Above vault
WAIT IT WAS DEBUNKED?!
Vault original cutscene was just a shortened version of the one we see now, although there are some visual changes with the murals: https://youtu.be/bQTH0bLyvh4?t=11402
The problem is that The Valley Elder seems to accelerate instantly. I don’t know the exact speed, but it’s extremely fast and dangerous
Imagine how fast they were when they weren’t split into two people.
FTL vehicles? That's NOTHING! We have FTL humanoids! Two of them!
They actually clock in at about 6 MPH: I calculated it. Sorry
HAHA SLOW
XDXDXDXD
LOL
they can go from 0-6 in 0 seconds, that’s still terrifying
but it's still only 6mph
Valley Elders held hands in the old mural? Setting me up to fail
Also they aren’t affected by friction. They can just zoom around at that speed
oh hot dang
yeah that's useful as frick
The Elders really just say “screw physics” at times, don’t they?
elders can do whatever they want
Benefits of having superpowers I suppose. 
disclaimer: so part of this is headcanon
as Salem explained, the statues seem tied to the Elders. meditating in front of them brings you to their pocket dimensions. after the Vault Elder's cutscene, the rest of the Elders join you, so the circular ring of Elder altars seems to correlate with multiple Elders in that pocket dimension.
note that the altars are around the Vault Elder's statue. perhaps the Vault Elder held some importance than being a mere co-ruler, perhaps being the original Eden Elder before Chosen One / king stole the show. or perhaps the arrangement gives them the ability to summmon the other Elders into their pocket dimension.
I rather thought that Vault Elder's statue is in the center at Vault summit to show that that's their realm, and that if we meditate there, we are going to meet the Vault Elder…
perhaps in their realm it is, but in Eden? unless Eden used to be their realm
I don’t have the images on hand but in the concept art from the animation teaser the vault is suspiciously absent from a shot of the wasteland temple. so that would definitely support that the Vault Elder was the eden elder, their realm didn’t exist for a bit
Are you talking about the broken Vault summit seen during ascent?
yea but that's not the Vault. That's Eden
It reminds me of the Vault summit, honestly.
I have this (unrefined) headcannon that what we see during our ascent is Sky getting destroyed in the storm. Kinda like "life flashing before your eyes".
It's not refined, it's just kinda what I interpret from it. 
part of it may be that the Vault is underground inside the Eden mountain. it would not be visible from outside Wasteland Elder temple.
although there's a theory that the Vault was made later in the kingdom's history. Salem's headcanon takes that the beam of light over Eden was triggered by the Chosen One could've charged inside the mountain, destroying the rock and leaving a vertical tunnel that would be the scaffolding for the Vault
except you can see the Vault behind you just before the Eden gate. that's the top floor from where you left after the Vault Elder cutscene. so what we see in Eden can't be the Vault summit - way too high up from where we started the ascent
That's not what I meant
I don't think those things are actually there physically
It's just what we see, a symbolism of what we tried to save but couldn't. Our lives flashing before our eyes.
that makes a whole lot of sense, the only thing confusing me is that you can see what is probably vault behind the wasteland temple
that might be the Vault or at least the entrance. that could be a barrier. really unclear.
Short Eden elder gets deposed by even SHORTER Eden elder (real lore(
I think it’s really strange, because it’s absolutely huge, like it stretches far beyond the wasteland temple in both directions and goes up into the clouds.
Vault elder got banished to the Eden basement :(
It might be a retaining wall for the mountain?
(Alasdair said to credit so I think it's his, he didn't say anyone else at the time)
I'm very not partial to sudden unexplained dream sequences "it's not real" tropes and all that, so I'm inclined against them. in this case, it doesn't make sense to me – granted we transition from soaring above stormlock to that whole ascent, which makes the geography unclear. there is at least something up ahead that is obscured by the Eden diamond.
it would also be important for an Eden Elder or the king to be able to summon or access all the Elders, so perhaps that ring of altars was made for their purposes.
the path to the ascent also is in ruin, so if it were a flashback to what couldn't be saved, wouldn't it look not as destroyed?
we also have this depiction of vault from an isle mural that confirms it is very tall
Notice the giant Diamond in top of vault temple… is that the corrupted power Diamond? Maybe…
also i found the images i was talking about, i’d agree that vault is inside the mountain but also. why is there 0 mountain in the first one. it’s a pretty big mountain
perspective?
that’s very fair i’m just throwing stuff out here
It could also be a statement of
"Watch the stuff you tried to save get destroyed anyway"
I can't really get behind everything requiring a physical presence because meditation is an important part of Sky. The headscape or whatever you want to call it holds importance – it's how we meet the Elders and how we learnt to swim. So I don't want to discount things happening inside a Skykid's head on the principle that everything should have a physical presence.
Perhaps the presence of all the elder statues in vault is to foreshadow the cutscene and Eden ? Cos I know that the room you're in after the vault cutscene ends doesn't have a single altar, so maybe those were a part of the elder's memory ?
Basically the "real" Vault – the realm not influenced by the Elder's magic – is the tiny room we see after the full cutscene (is what I think)
Kinda sad to think about actually 
Eden is also foreshadowed in Vault mama's cutscene as the crown that takes the shape of a mural
If Vault Elder has the ability to turn one tiny room into a gigantic tower with the use of her magic even after her death, does that mean she's the most powerful of all the Elders except for the King? 
The Vault Elder being the most powerful is now my headcanon. I haven't seen any sort of supernatural abilities from the King yet so I'll just exclude him
we don't actually know if the elders are dead. They might not even be stuck, and that space is merely their 'office' of sorts where they deal with the children
Visual of Skykids overrunning the Elders' offices?
Well they could be somewhat "unlit" in the very least. They look like if Sky Kids lost their flame; white and grey
Yeah, they're definitely weaker than they were before, and our kids are helping them, regardless of their dead or alive status
Ah, perhaps the Light that we bring to them is to help their power regrow?
that's one theory
i know this is late but....b o b b i t.
Since I read you other comment about lightseekers and cycle and spring, by reading this list of seasons it's kind of a let down 😅
I hoped the Lightseekers had taken place on as a springtime, instead it started in September (fall) 2019. Soo that all seasons had a meaningful period assigned to each.
Meanwhile Rhythm (which during Sky Light Awaits was a drafted Winter Season) was the definitively released between winter-spring of 2020
Then how about Flight? Have someone in lorechat figured why and how a peaceful season like that could ve themed to the withering fall ? 🤔
WOW !
This is so bittersweet and wholesome at the same time 🥲
Good idea, Vela, bravo 
pre-prophecy, he was a pilgrim.
Also, never change you kind soul. The doodle has captured the nostalgic mood perfectly. 👋 👌
Any artist spirit gets a golden ticket to my top favourite sky characters. 💛
B o b b i t h a s e a t e n t h e c h a t e v e r y t i m e i l o g i n t o d i s c o r d
Bobbit?
basically
we dead
Bobbit was a creature that a fellow lore skykid had designed, ive forgotten where it came from but now i use it whenever lorechat is just...asleep
#lore-discussion-spoilers definitely needs some SNEEP SNORP 
I got curious, look it up and this confuses me more:
#sky-memes message
look it up in the lore channel ya dingus /lh
I HAS NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE- the one that i use is the bobbit designs that someone in lorechat made. Now it serves as a oddity that uses lorechat as sustenance and a summoning call for fruitzie.
you just happen to say it in my waking hours ya bingus /lh
I did, and still looking through it. The bot saying it only once stood out though.
Your waking hours must be 24 hours a day then

it aint don't worry lol
you've only bobbited 10 times
also
do you think I'm weird?
ok, nope.
Bobbits are bad.
That has to be the worse thing lore chat can come up with.
No i think your amazing Fruitzie! After all not any skykid could be the lore receptionist! ^^ ...and thank goodness you arent awake 24 hours a day. I wouldve recommended chamomile tea TwT. aND BoBbIt
Where did you find it XD, i still havent found the original chat TwT
I haven't tried that stuff
Any lore questions?
Any links in the new project teaser, i feel like there must be so much more from when i left 
Fish's message is the first mention in this channel: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Frankly am not surprised it is fish that first said it.
It is the picture of it from google that made it very clear.
Dear birds the project hype was so fast I couldn't keep up
There was some artwork someone had made where bobbits looked cute, thats where i got it from XD. @compact shale I feel bad for missing it now TwT
Welp, if there is a picture from them. I either missed it in the filter search, or it is not on the server.
I am never going to be able to find it TwT
I've been thinking, and I think Megabird is actually something like Ponyo's mother. As in makes up the sky itself in a way and swims under the water in Orbit. It would be a pretty solid theory considering how the office lake light creatures are spinning in water and not in the sky like most other light creatures. Cause the office lake light creatures are pretty reminiscent of murals and said creatures in there are usually found in orbit or smth
But I do like the headcanon that Orbit isn't as it seems, that the not only is the sky not the limit, but that the ocean below is also deeper. Especially with season of Abyss cause that makes it feel like there's stuff underneath the waters that we haven't explored yet, including Orbit's water.
Maybe our Sky kid just hasn't experienced true death or so and can't go under Orbit's water. Who knows.
Esther Moon created it! :D D:
There it is :D!! @clear glacier can you explain the water, i didnt quite understand fully...
When you see Raider writing for a long time, you know its daily paragraph reading time :D!
Bot, you are getting on my nerves....
Well you see, in Ponyo, Granmammare (ponyo's mother) is the sea herself. So she's beeg lady. I'm thinking Megabird could be something like that too! Most people would only be able to touch or see the surface but then the spirits would be like the fishies in the sea, being with megabird and experiencing grace and peace underneath the surface
Orbit seems like a far away place in outer space, almost how Heaven is depicted and at times theorised to be a separate dimension.
the use of water as the floor in Orbit may symbolically imply the place is Holy and pure.
In Genesis, the story of creation tells of God moving over water, creating the heavens, the earth, the plants and animals; and lastly creating mankind to live in paradise, the garden of Eden.
When mankind disobeyed, they were cast out of the garden and had to live out their mortal lives and the knowledge they gained from the forbidden fruit.
Apologies for the tangent, back to the topic:
The water mural is unique and poses interesting questions regarding the lore. It is near the office portal, which is established to be non-canon, yet Vault is.
I like to think that the mural being at the edge of what is canon and what is not, jmplies that the King and Megabird (the figures in the mural) are the most distant and elusive characters in the Sky lore.
Which partly lines up with the more powerful beings tend to be harder to come by in the game, and them being the divine beings of the Sky world.
I think that's especially true with how this specific symbol in the water mural looks reminiscent of the king from concept arts. So the king and megabird do exist, but they arent as close to the plane of reality that the sky kids reside in.
That name reminds me of the Bobbit Worm... 
PSTD memories 
Sorry TwT
Funny thing is. Lorechat seems to give that water-"mural" much more relevance than what reika (a developer) gave to it in an early interview 
I think it's in the pinned message too 
Yeah Im pretty sure it's from the Osaka qna. Either way, I find it fun to come up with silly little theories with our silly little foil hats
Here is the pinned message
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Here is the transcript #lore-discussion-spoilers message
It is simply mentioned as Orbit
Both autumn and spring have an equinox though !
Considering the
poem in the shop, maybe they were tasked to find and put souls to rest...
I recall linking Flight to autumn by mentioning bird migration ! They leave for the winter...
Any link/transcript for that poem ? 
I support them being the first spirit we see painting but also... some of their supplies might go missing after I pass by 
Third and fourth line... 
I LOVE THIS
I recall concept art talking about water being sacred (which makes the wastelands very interesting...), it would make so much sense that the spirits coming out of the water would pretty much be like these fish !
If you can beat me to it. XD
Henooo lore chat! 
Raider and I making a beeline for the stagehand's workspace when the performance season area opens.
Que Benny Hill scene of two skykid fighting over paint pots and brushes.
Spirit is gonna harshly scold us after putting the supplies away

How we doin!~ 
Then you sneak into Stagehand's secret room and you see them doing exactly the kind of stuff you would've used the paint for, thanks to their cat side.
Stagehand: It's old, dull, paint, I can't let it go to waste.
I mean, their intro card depicts them painting, so yeah, they use the tools as intended !
I can relate to not letting supplies go tho.
lore??
Was everything destroyed after we sacrifice everything or was it just vault that was destroyed due to it’s close proximity to eden? That brings me to my next question, is there a map of everything in sky, how everything is laid out, or is it all just in one straight line? Also, what was vault’s role in sky’s society?
Dangit, I brought TLP high up there, but I dont think I knew that constellation was rewchable this close
Is this in Live? Tell me it's in Live

Finally a T U R T L E ! 
Accents and dialects in sky 
Lantern storage?
And also while the vault is close to Eden, it's also underground so pretty protected.
PONYOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Anyways, I fully support that idea that the Megabird is like the sky equivalent of Ponyo's mother, a being that is the sky itself (in a way) and lies underneath the ocean
I haven't seen that in forever.
Same, but I do remember the fact that Ponyo had so many siblings and that her mom was biiiiiigggg
I always saw the different voices that sky kids can use as different accents/dialects! It just kinds made since considering how distinct they sound and how they're usually exclusive/can only be found in one specific area in the kingdom 
Yes, @patent elk, Sky has lore.
Yeah, that's a real nice way to look at it!
I would like to know more lore plz
There's a lot of things we talk about here so if you want to ask about the lore it's best to ask about a specific topic such as a particular season, something unusual you've noticed that might be important, or a particular theme the game has
You can also check the docs in the pins!
Hoo boy no way are we gonna explain EVERYTHING without you falling asleep at some point
But here's a very abridged version of the main story
||The king screwed up
There's darkness abuse
The spirits can't ascend without our help
and now we're here to ascend them||
These docs may be outdated, but they might help you think of a topic to bring up!
Lore Moth Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing
The Canon Lore Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
👁️ 👄 👁️ 
seasons greasons
grease????
hey strega can I ask a question in dms
It could even be the other way around. The turtle was decorated by Ancestors
I think there was a urban legend or a real fact about a turtle with markings on its shell which dated back to centuries 
anyway, now that we have this light turtle I think there might be another species (who know, maybe more earth base similar to tortoise ) with horns and goatee, like the one we saw depicted by the water prophet mask
HInt, that it could not be just grounded as the tortoise is the fact it is linked to Water
took a while to get all the way up there, for reference the lower light in the first image is the rebirth gate. ended up using 29 instant recharge potions
I still haven’t financially recovered from this.
oh my god you went into orbit two
to infinity and beyond ig
orbit is so swag, i would never do this again but it’s pretty :)
I feel like some influences for this game have to be studio ghibli
I’ve been thinking about the water in Orbit too. Consider
When walking toward the rebirth door, the spirits pop out of the watery surface beside our starry path. Yes we can walk on it, but we can’t disappear into like they do. Perhaps under those waters is the Light and Orbit is merely the surface. If we could dive under the waves, we would be submerged into the Light.
As for why we can’t go under the waves, not sure. I do like your idea that because skykids haven’t experienced “true” death they can’t go in. I’ve been thinking that since skykids’ mission is incomplete — there are more spirits to be saved — that we are reborn and can’t reunite with the Light completely.
I do like to think that touching the water briefly connects one to the Light.
I like to think that ever having the waves touch you, you can hear people within the Light whispering to you or get a taste of their memories
Water can also be thematically tied to connection and universiality. Water is everywhere, found in even the most remote places, and has theoretically been all over the upper crust of the planet thanks to the water cycle (powered by the heat of the sun, a star). All the mass of water has remained on Earth ever since it’s been here. Ancient organisms and species long extinct have had the same water you have, in a way connecting you with the past and future beings to you. So to me the Office mural being projected in water seems to reference that.
Water has been useful for travel, sailing over it brings people and things across great distances to far off lands, for better or for worse. Black American arts often features a sentiment of kalunga
a cosmological system that understood bodies of water to be bridges connecting the lands of the living and the realm of the dead.
to connect with ancestral Africa.
So again the water in Orbit and mural may be embodying a spiritual connectiveness. While skykids cannot truly submerge themselves in the Light, they can still bond to it
I woke up not long ago so if it’s not cohesive as I’d like /shrug
WHATT,? Noo!! you can use the windwall to gently push you higher 
It might take a while to master this but it's the safest way to do that 
safety? in sky? what’s that 
Were these taken on 30 or 60 fps? They looks more beautiful and sharp the time I visited.
Maybe I'll try to revisit it sooner or later
HOld on I think I had a video somewhere about how to deal with windwalls
the highest graphics setting my device can reach is boosted def, which i think is 30 fps but with crisper visuals than regular 30 fps
I love to do that at Home Space. Fly as high as I want without having to flap my wings once.
Something like this #screenshots-and-videos message
Or this
#screenshots-and-videos message
If you fly/flap too fast against a windwall you get pushed away. But if you fly slow and with a gentle swipe up before you touch it you get pushed up smoothly
I found out this technique last year DoBloom because that tree was solid and a perfect ramp to take off and fly way up high up ( SOLO or in group) and without even using one flap/wedge
Im a bit sad the bloom tree is not in HomeSpace. I can fly up high using one flap now and hoped to repeat that kind of smooth take off
ORBIT OOB?!!?? 
idk? does it count as an oob if you’re just going really high up?
On that last part, fun fact, some irish and gaelic mythos say the other world is beyond the sea.
Isn't there also a celtic/gealic myth about stone arches being gates for the stages of life?
Will look it up to be sure.
oh hey, thanks!
👀
In Ireland there was a belief that the souls of the dead departed westwards over the sea with the setting sun (wikipedia)
Im also reading that a lot (not all) portals to the otherworld were water features like waterfalls and crossing streams
Now I’m on a rabbit hole of mythologies. I got work to do
The Valley Elders guarding the westward gates, now-fallen glories awaiting beyond.
Maybe the westward movement of the sun could be parallel to the aging from young adulthood to midlife, which may look glorious to a young and hubristic thrillseeker 
I do link the valley elders to these...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugal-irra_and_Meslamta-ea
Guardians of the gate to the underworld...
The mythology discussion made me realize that orbit reminds me quite a bit of the concept of heaven portrayed in the Divine Comedy. Where space and heaven are the same thing, and everything is brightly glowing and orbiting around a central brightest point (in the Paradiso that point is God, which I don’t think applies in sky but it’s interesting)
I still need to actually read the Divine Comedy, I have it around here somewhere but I haven’t gotten around to it. But based on what I’ve read about it, the shot of orbit we first see where it’s too bright to make out details could potentially match up
just gonna keep digging myself an even deeper grave with the Italian thing huh
iirc the Divine Comedy described heaven as hella bright
I believe Dante completely loses his eyesight at one point bc of how bright it is
Yeah, his girlfriend also gets prettier as they ascend as a euphemism for... sublimation or transcendence ??? I think ???
They are identified with the constellation Gemini, which is named after them
Thinking about the Gemini constellation in the new friend constellations update and how it’s depicted with a grave.
Dante also meets Adam, saints and apostles while reaching the highest circles.
from what i’ve heard that poem is so so weird in certain places so before i actually try to read it I need to find some accompanying historical context bc Dante just casually shoves his personal opinions on historical figures throughout the whole thing
Yea if you’re reading the Divine Comedy, best to read from an edition with footnotes or have Sparknotes open.
Source: experience
Dante Alighieri, father of the italian language, why are you like this
Dante lived his life almost constantly on the run, which is interesting if you see that at first he's refused from heaven and thus has to do a run through hell and limbo first.
Dante was involved in Italian politics when the politics at the time hated his guts so he hated them in turn
@white junco notice the small swipes. You don't need to make a midair twist/twirl, I think it's necessary just to get a good angle to get pushed up
Then (when you start loosing the ground as relative point) you need to orientate in midair where the wind wall is and that's why I advice to train with circular/spiral gliding (so that the trail can help you figure out also if you're loosing height)
OSP did 3 vids for the entire divine comedy trilogy if you prefer someone reads it for you.
ah thank you
i’ll see if i can figure it out
yeah i’ve seen them, that’s why i know anything about what goes on in there
🤝
Btw I used it all the time as a shortcut to Citadel 
Btw, while meeting the Turtle for the first time I spotted a Light Starfish
Ayo (Corrupt)King real!
Hmm?
in the concept designs, the King is a thing, and apparently as well as a Corrupt Descendant
Yeye we know— /nm
Hi! I am so so so late to the convo but!
OSP actually did a short series on the Divine Comedy it’s where I got my understanding of it from!
Oh heck Vela already said this whoops
What?
By the way i know nothing about the lore lol, but i got a question.
Is there something behind the whole idea of the base or its just something with no importance
The base?
Do you mean Home?
They might mean HomeSpace, yeah.
Once upon a time in my language the translation was perfect, but everthing changed when the adaption changed into Base
Ooops, sorry for the ping 
Some think its just a game mechanics or HomeSpace being a sort of HeadSpace/Mindscape where we can meet but without any canon influence. But another theory could be that it is a far away island on the same planet of Sky amd with some meaningful link to lore, despite in Home may appears and disappear things during IRL events which could not be too strickly counted as Lore
What do you think?
Since we see Home Portals mentioned in Isle, I’d assume it’s a real place, possibly either a faraway area or a different dimension.
yeah, I think it’d be a real place, but I don’t think the ancestors would’ve had any access to it. the portal carvings r in both isle and eden, maybe they held some symbolic meaning?
I would suggest that they link to the gates you pass through in some of the realms, but forest is the one that has one at the very beginning and the forest gate on the carving doesn’t look like the regular ones at all
Woahwoahwoahwoahwoe wait a minute. On their chests, they look a LOT like the stones of light sky kids have on their chests. This might be more evidence that ancestors were also sky kids, that we’re the same species.
AHHHH THEY HAVE A SCYTHE!!!!!!
Isn’t that a pickaxe?
I’m talking about the visual glitch on the right, it looks a bit like a scythe so I joked about that.
Ah, okay. Stagehand just brings an entire armful of weapons and tools to the stage, saying “you never know when we might need them for props.”
Stagehand: ominously holding backpacks full of weapons and staring at storyteller without moving
Storyteller: panicked uhhh watcha doing there stagehand…. Heh….
Stagehand:snapping out of the daze huh? Oh I was just dazed.
All spirits have a bit of light in their chests. It doesn’t always show but it glows through any clothing when they dematerialize as a sparkle. In art they’re just drawn as a dot.
Its right where the light stone would be on a sky kid. It still remains a possibility that in life they had one.
they did have one. The switcher trailer family all have lights. Interestingly enough, when the child moves, it seems the light moves with their clothes in some manner, like it's covered instead of an open hole.
Because they’re beings of light, including the ancestors. They all got some inner light to some capacity
Another piece of evidence that can support the soy kid ancestors theory.
the what
Oh no, that is a spelling error that is sure to end disastarly, and I want to see where it goes.
Soy kids are sky kids that are lactose intolerant
Hell no, either say what the original theory was or I'm not engaging. It sounds like all kinds of trouble
sky kid ancestor theory
Also do you guys think that the storm in eden will eventually spread to other realms? Is it growing? Or are the sacrifices of skykids shrinking it
I think people think the storm is receding over time.
I think that after the last batch of sky kids sacrificed themselves, the storm has been calming down.
Yeah makes sense
But if there were no skykids would the storm grow?
TBH, when I'm flying for orbit, it looks to me like the storm straight up broke, and is starting to reform again by the time we get to the top. We're still in Eden when the kids are flying, and suddenly it's peaceful instead of a hellscape just because we're 50 feet to the right? Nah, the storm broke
WE’VE FOUND WHERE THE PROPHECY SPIRITS LIVE, ITS TIME TO PLOT OUR ATTACK FOR WHEN THE GET HOME!!!!!!
I don’t think so. Nothing has infinite energy and will eventually drain itself overtime. The process could be slow but it would still be draining and potentionally dissipating
This is the entrance to Performance, not Prophecy
The doors to the houses are tall even for a spirit. And I’m not being serious about that.
Hmmmmmmmm, what do we have heeeerrrreeeeeee…..
Wish we had gotten this for dreams./j
Is Grandma secretly a skykid? 
Ah, so festive spin dancer kinnies
we’ve been theorizing about this, every spirit as 1 wedge, except for sanc guide grandma and lightseekers guide which have 5. It also appears that they might be sky kids.
can these capes be charged up?
No, because their dead…..
Since? I don't recall see those in these months
it came with the recent update.
I just found this emote, I believe its the performance emblem.


It’s probably a bug. The wedges on spirits
The presentation of the wedges is far too specific to be a bug.
It wasn’t mentioned in the patch notes so likely a bug
there appears to be a similarity among these season emblems.

The Enchantment and Prophecy connection is obvious, but I’m not sure about Performance yet- it hasn’t even come out!
Ooh! It looks like different sides of stage curtains drawings to the side. I really like that.
Agreed. There ought to be something in the quests to help with the connection.
Ash confirmed that the color aura around the emblems is purely a color choice
The emblem is formatted similarly to an upsided down enchantment emblem. And Alasdair I’m not talking about color.
I’m not talking about the colors./lh
If you’re seeing a similarity then spill the tea
They all have a star on the emblem, or light

It might just be because all the spirits didn’t fit in the main logo (so the center star has to be added) but it Is neat
Wow, I just love the non-existent physics of sky.
I personally don’t believe so.(I also genuinely don’t know how the spirits fit.) We’ll just wait and find out later.
So it appears the sanctuary boat first appeared here. But what was this models purpose? I have no clue as to what it is.
oh no not again… the Boat Returns
does anyone have an idea on what eden used to look like ?
one second
top left picture in the background.
For context Esther, that specific boat model has been bothering me for ages, since before the sanctuary one came out, and I still don’t know why it looks like that. It’s in the first room before Eden too, as well as one spot in forest
Based on this, it seems Eden used to be blue in canon just like it was in beta.
I’m going to make a video game villain that is just this boat.
It’s so weird to me because only some of the boats with that model have darkstone slots on them. How did this boat even function??
pulled by mantas, maybe
MAYBE, but the spots it’s in would make that super weird. Plus there’s manta boats in the wind paths and they looked nothing alike
So, the boat definitely looks as though its ueavy and strong, like it’s meant to be reinforced. One slight possibility could be that it was used during the war, but there is nearly no other form of evidence to support that.
also, those other boats you saw might have had the back end sticking out.
To be fair, the ones still flying are ones made out of scraps you found in the forest caves and bought to the talented builder, they don't look like the ones seen in the memories of flight spirits 
So there's probably more than one kind of boat pulled by mantas.
Question, have we ever had a long sleeved skykid outfit?
Because one of the blue crystal shard cover statues in Eden has one.
I assume folks here have theorised that these children were either skykids, winged light, or even ancestors.
Where'd you find this?
A lot of the flight outfits have long sleeves!! I don’t know about non seasonal outfits though
At the very top of Eden, just before the point of no return tunnel.
interesting how the pose isnt the same as the usual clutching chest one
I think we usually clutch our chests by default in Eden, I can’t remember but I feel like I’ve seen spirits do it in memories too??
had to check to be sure. non of the non-seasonal pants are long sleeved. All of them are the same sleeve type interestingly.
Though you have a point with seasonal items like the flight and little prince ultimate pants as an example
The sword outfit has long sleeves, as does the little prince pajamas. As does the flight guide outfit.
They do.
Statues in the final area clutch their chests, iirc.
These ones by the tunnel do not do that. Which is the statue behind this one, and the 3 that were scrambling up the steps.
wait...
5 statues in eden....
Would that have meant a 6th child made it to the next area?
where's the picture from?
Light Awaits, this is an old mural that would have appeared above the doorway to Eden from Vault.
ohhh ok, thank u :)
don't all the statues in stormlock reach out? or they do both?
DM me immediately
one hand is holding the chest, the other is reaching out.
The reaching gesture could be an attempt to shield against wind, or reach out to the crystal.
Usually I don’t see it due to the direction I’m going in Eden but yea you’re right. Luckily I had a pic
Little prince had a different pose iirc !
what's iirc?
if i recall correctly
Iirc is a synonym for annoy 💛 Like “wow, this tiny detail iircs me”
EDIT: DO NOT BELIEVE ME I AM MESSING WITH U. THE REAL WORD IS IRK
I recall them having the same pose, though a bit redder?
That or, they are using the skykid's death pose and did not default to the usual one?
D..did u go to Eden rn to take these pics?
We also do it the entire Eden journey, probably to shield from darkness in the air, although I don’t think we do it in wasteland/Forest where it’s also dark, weirdly enough
I think the darkness particles are carried with the wind, and since the wind in those places isn’t nearly as strong enough as it is in Eden, it doesn’t really affect as as much.
No I take a lot of pics of Eden for aesthetics and research purposes
Extinguished in limbo clutching chest
Going slower than that, gives you a similar animation of them taking deliberate steps, almost limping, while holding onto their chest.
I should take a recording of that next time. It is unique and I love the detail added to that.
You also can’t jump very well
Wasteland isn’t as hostile as Eden, maybe that’s why?
Yeah, I think that’s it. Wasteland is dangerous, but you really have to travel a bit to find direct danger. Eden, however, doesn’t care, and will beat at you every step of the journey no matter where you are.
I like to think the elders hold back the storm while we fix what we can, so wasteland being protected by 2 elders if you count Vault, it is hostile but not as lethal as Eden.
I find Wasteland isn’t as dangerous due to its distance from the center of the Storm. Eden becomes more dangerous the closer to the red diamond you go, especially given the red darkstone rain
Wasteland is dangerous if you don't know the terrain well (moths) or if you're reckless, but it's doable even when you're tired.
Eden needs you to observe and know the rythm of rock rains and enough luck to not be repeatedly knocked down when you get hit.
Wasteland is only really dangerous to those unused to it
Eden straight up kills everyone regardless of skill level, the only difference between moths and veterans is how long it takes to get killed
given that angler likely didnt have mechanical stuff to pull the fishnets back up, they're probably really beefy
YESSSSS
maybe in another life they'd be working in Prairie lifting pots
I want an extension of their memory with the baby krill. The baby krill attacks, but angler grabs it and yeets it into orbit
Is there lore for why the saplings bloom once a week in sky?
they bloom once a week? I thought this was just for days of bloom or the daily quest
yea they only bloom for the daily quest and since the daily quest is every day for Days of Bloom, a sapling has been blooming once a week (approximately)
Is there lore behind that or is it just for gameplay? And like what happens to the bloom tree at the end? Is it also spiritual residue?
GUYS GUYS
THE HIPPIE IS IN
GUITAR
ELECTRIC GUITAR HOW
MAGIC.
I WANNA DO COVERS OF MOTHER MOTHER SONGS NOW
I LOVE THE WAVY EFFECT ON THE STRIBS
THE CAPE 
HOW DOES IT WO actually that would make sense tbh
light magic strings………please
that and power diamonds I guess
“Knows everything shortcut in village”. Wow, this guy is pretty much us.
wait there is a diamond on the guitar that absolutely explains it
not really sure. since it correlates with the daily quests, the timing of their blooming may be just an in-game thing. I like to think that in-universe that they're much like irl flowering trees – blooming at the start of the springtime, maintaining their flowers for a period of time, then the flowers fall off and they remain inert.
as for the wisteria tree in Forest social space, it's prob gonna disappear.
@atomic grove I replied to the wrong bloke.
Diamond powered instruments. I want to see that
Two of them, I think. One on the top and one at the bottom.
was replying to my message an accident
YESSSSS MELLOW MUSICIAN
dammit,s orry
I have a spirit OC with a theremin but I dunno what to do with them as I’m unsure how much sense that’d make
but since we have an electric guitar now (unsure how to feel) they could exist after all
Yeah. Now that we have confirmation that “electric” instruments exist in the Sky world, imagine what else there could be.
toasters
darkstone microwave
ETHEREAL WHISPERER REAL

Is there lightning in eden? Maybe they harnessed the lightning for electricity
tfw your spirit call spirit oc with a theremin now makes sense after all. this is irrelevant but yeah
I mean, we do see some mini darkstones on the guitar. It’s likely they just used those for everything that we would need electricity for.
darkstone washing machine when
lorechat literaly goes wawooga when new character card drops
character cards are big beans
i’m in overthinking mode
ok but what is the kingdom’s music like then
i guess the sheets seem to be spirit music
and the gratitude troupe’s dragon
Okay, but if the Musician got cast by stealth hanging around the Director so they'd be overheard, this means the Director is fully willing to just pull random people off the street like 'I need u to be in my show'. They're eccentric. I need their card right now immediately 
Hello lore chat!
Just 23 more hours! 
Noice
|| does anyone want to say hi to me?
❤️||
Wait is Mellow Muscians' background the vault?
A Vault set, yes
yea, it's the top floor with the Vault Elder
Hii hii ‹𝟹
Heno henooo
mellow musician being from the vault is hilarious to think about, scholar really went "man" and left to become a theater kid
maybe that's why they're so mellow
Bwhahahh
scholar to performance
If you wish, we could talk in dms? :› sorry if that comes off as weird i just wanted to dm you and say hi but it turned out to be that you don't accept requests and all that 
I'm pretty sure that's what the director is gonna do to our skykid
they see you and they'd be like "you. weird flamey kid. i need you for my play. come here."
Hh alas… I only DM people to help me do something in Sky…
cast when they “just happened” to play where the director overheard them
QG is the director ? 
Director: -weird flame child wanders into their theater- Is anyone going to adopt this? No? Free real estate
you keep making me think thoughtful director and i’m getting confused
The director is a veteran sky kid for sure
Adopts randoms
Ahahah 
That's okay! :D have a great day/night my lovely sky family!

didn't the abyss crew also technically go "HEY KID YOU WANNA BE A PIRATE"
The abyss crew shunned us when we came to look at the ship and abyss guide was like 'I'll teach u how to get on their good side'
I joke that they shanghaied us yeah fijddjdhshhs
season guides just hang around and go "psst, hey kid, wanna *insert plot of season here*"
: D D D
Every spirit guide at its core is a depressed veteran that goes "is anybody gonna adopt that?" and not wait for an answer
then they wonder why they adopted the skid in the first place
All seasonal guides are contractually obligated to act like the Skids are their own children, no questions asked.
and this works out for them
it sounds like the Musician wanted to be adopted by the director since they "just happened" to be around
We should rank seasonal guides based on their parenting skills
We should save it for after this season. I have a feeling Performance guide is gonna be high up there.
Abyss guide is last, since they're more like a cool elder sibling
We've all kinda latched onto Performance Guide like 'yeah, parent material' but it's gonna be hilarious if they're not
ooo seasonal guide ranking 
< hasn't seen Performance Guide
me who's seen beta and knows the very predictable reaction people are gonna have:
You liar @frigid tinsel
Vela pls tell me it's not thirst
offseason is just the distant relative that’s rarely involved in parenting but still visits every now and then but is prob the absolute sweetest when they do so is absolutely a great parent
is a grandparent in fact
enchantment qg feels like potential parent material - the mentoring kind, but takes it too seriously and isn’t exactly connected (I call them one of my parents though so)
I think Flight guide would be high on the list, as they’re definitely the kind of spirit to care for the ones under them.
I've only see their back, not their front
liaaaaar
I vouch for Flight Guide parenting
1 - Belonging Grandma 😌
Isn’t weird that all in performance spirit cards they have chest lights? But in-game they don’t?
JOINING IN : all qg are babysitters but forgot about the baby part
Grandma always and forever
She's our only source of food /j
Well, that and the teaset table.
With the bloom tables, we can feed ourselves now
merch wave when please i just wanna see offseason again pleeeeease
yes,, grandma
2nd : flight guide
such cool energy…..😌
idk about in-game but in every promo the spirits have a chest light.
Yea that’s funny 
I mentioned before that all spirits have a sparkle of light in their chests, it's just in a lot of them it's covered up by clothing, but it becomes visible when they dematerialize into the sparkle: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
i’m thinking about merch wave i need a distraction
I think that sparkle is their soul cos skykids have it too – skykids turn into one after dying in Eden (if spectating someone else in stormlock) or when summoning friends from friend constellation (tho that's less visable after this update)
If we ever get an actual Sky themed instrument… 
It's gonna be soooo expensive
…Yeah. And I definitely wouldn’t know how to play it anyway. 
they could go easy and make a kalimba
I'd love more pins that give you in game instruments tbh (ooo, specia pin series. It's the spirit who gives you the instrument playing it)
That looks like the ingame one omg 
it's a dream but if it ever comes out i'll be emptying my wallet
Ennarcia makes a good point in that we probably would have to empty our wallets to buy it.
YES KALIMBAS THOSE THINGS GIVE ME HAPPINESS WHEN I PLAY THEM
i mainly want a merch wave so we can see
again
If it's a legit instrument, it's either gonna be cheap and suck, or high quality and those cost an arm and a leg
kalimbas actually exist btw
I think the only fake instrument is the Bass Harp. I've looked it up and found nothing. A Harp Bass exists, but it's not the same thing
Someone in universe has DEFINITELY written fanfiction about the mellow musician.
New plot twist to your fic: Mellow Musician used to be in Rhythm before they had a falling out
on seasonal guides being parental
Gratitude: adopted gratitude vets, really good at distracting and entertaining kids
Lightseekers: probably the kind that doesn't speak much but lets kids sleep against them while they enjoy their tea
Belonging: a litteral grandma
Rythm: probably not parental but likely really good at entertaining kids
Enchantment: doesnt strike me as being particularly parental but i do see them being a favorite among nerds because they are likely very astute
Sanctuary: the cool uncle that knows some secret passageways to hidden spots, probably popular with adventurous kids
Prophecy: same vibe as enchantment but for stories, probably good at entertaining kids albeit they would probably get overhelmed with rowdy and loud ones since they live in a cave
Dreams: a litteral parent
Assembly: probably would be like a sibling, definitely would play and get in trouble with sky kids
TLP: no
Flight: Similar to prophecy but probably handles loud kids a bit better
Abyss: a bit shy but actually pretty tough, probably can handle rowdy kids better than appearances may suggest, would likely take on an older sibling role
what about event guides and offseason 👀 all the guides
OH MY GOD. YES. There’s a massive fandom war between the mellow musician and rhythm fans. There are memory lanterns that project old concerts of them together, but with angsty music edited on top
crying laughing at the idea of QG adopting skids that started playing during their season, so it's all heartwarming until you see TLP moths in their goth garb awkwardly standing next to the rose
@frigid tinsel you have been adopted by the flower
lol, I totally forgot that the “guide” of TLP season was literally just a rose.
It's a special rose, to be fair. An alien rose
I have this whole headcanonverse that includes guide meetings and uh
sorry to post a meme in here but this reminds me of a very recent one of mine
Belonging guide saw us and immediately adopted us. We didn’t have to befriend them or anything, they were just like “cute child? MY cute child now”
All grandma spirits are the same way. 
The entire family is like this. Even tousle teen
Mellow Musician had a falling out with the Rhythm crew, became a Vault scholar to recalibrate their life, left the Vault to pick up music again, joined Performance theater.
questgivering lecture or something, featuring LP QG being…something alright
[filmed in secret area]
why am I being adopted by a flower? edit: oh wait I see now.
The falling out was because admiring actor framed them for eating jugglers cheese snacks and REFUSES to admit their mistake
Not the cheese snacks. 
The cheese snacks strike again
Skater solves their problems, and they all get along again
what kind of cheese snack
does anyone else imagine the rose like this
just saying the contrast between TLP and flight is hilarious sometimes
We were both LP moths and very much look it
LP felt like a fever dream to me and not in the best way
WANTING TO POST MY FAVE COMIC EVER ABT CHEESE SNACKS BUT PROFANITY
AND YEAH TLP MOTHS MOTHS LOOKED SO FUNNY WAS I UGLY ON PURPOSE /LH
Alasdair (tlp moth) vs me (ench/prophecy moth)
My parents are cooler than urs
WGHAGHSGDAA DM ME IT
When the performance group goes to Valley's stadium to perform but then rhythm is there as well
I liked the season. : (
it was a good season, it's just the emo season of the seasons
Well, the devs themselves literally called it emo.
But like what if. They preform together?
It was one of the best season imo
mainly cause tlp means a lot to me but yea lol emo season
also with the strangest spirit headcanons i have ever had
why is the lord farquad pointing at me ???!!!
amv’s? Never heard of them. Only AMCs here (Animated Music Candles)
how was it emo?
|| legit never had any attachment to any fictional character in years thanks to minecraft story mode lol ||
I just wanna imagine them in a performance battle and the season guides just grabbed guitars and are aggresively strumming at each other while the rest cheer them on
the sheer headaches I have trying to understand how they exist the way they do 
TLP rose listens to MCR
All the black capes and clothing, lol.
just that all the cosmetics were black and shades of gray
I mean the colour scheme makes sense considering the emotional weight it carries
Context: more TLP moths
They probably listen to Good Charlotte as well.
Oh but the the TLP stuff is so pretty in my opinion
and marilyn manson (i know none of these bands)
(Neither do I. I’m pretty sure we’re getting all the names from the same source.)
Fall Out Boy, Linkin Park
It's nice it's just also emo
Horrible thought: I wonder if people are going to try to declare performance non canon because of the electric guitar like they did with sanc
NO
NAUR
You dont know of MCR? 😭 im turning into a pile of dust
That guitar is powered by crystals. If I hear one person try it, I'm not going to be kind to them
They better not!
Sky is a post apocalyptic fantasy, not a medieval fantasy! They had technology!
I did listen to one or two songs because I play Vampire: The Masquerade tbh
I’m sorry but, this opens up a whole new realm of instruments.
But like you know those funky piano things. Yeah thoses
electric keyboard? Don't we have one of those
Cheerful spectator with a synth
A hurdy gurdy
Oh my god… rock music in sky needs actual rocks (darkstone) to work. Literal rock music
Do we? Cause all I know of are the regular pianos
salem you are killing me
The one cheerful spectator gives us is different from the one the pianist rhythm spirit does
Flight guide wearing a t shirt that says “concerned parents against rock music” bc it uses darkstone
That would make sense as to why I do not know. I haven’t experienced many seasons
Pianist carries a grand piano on their back, bless their heart
I may not be into emo bands but you know what I'm eager to see with that electric guitar ? The return of Through the Fire and the Flames by Dragonforce
my revenge.
to be fair, Rhythm is impossible to experience beyond the spirit memories. You need to pay attention to them/other players or look up rhythm seasons
I Need to make a cheese counter… hold on
you cant beat me with cheese, im french
Have much cheese do you even have in your pantry? 
none bc i store it in the fridge
…How much in the fridge?
Probably a lot.
Current cheese counter: 6
I like to think frantic stagehand gets annoyed the others aren't early like them because it gets lonely doing the prep work without some activity around
“Why aren’t you guys early like me?!?”
“You wake up at 2 in the morning…”
“And I’m extremely proud of it!“
dads be like
i cant post the og but
(the og was in ms paint so i drew in ms paint)
I LOVE FHIS SLINK. The framing begins
the barely contained violence behind jugglers smile is killing me
prequel:
OHH RIGHT
HELLP
that's probs why actor was so easy to frame, if they'd committed the crime before
Actor was the one who framed musician, and they refuse to admit their crimes. Rhythm lore
Alright, let’s discuss. What caused Actor to lose all that muscle mass before they died and became a spirit? 
they never had it, that's the joke
Yeah…I was joking as well.
ah
Even if they did have it, starving to death can really trim your frame
WAIT ARE THEY ACRUALLY FROM VAULT DID I MISS IT
EDIT: does this mean the other spirits are from the places in their backgrounds too??? We need to ask about why those were chosen
We don't know if the backgrounds are actually where they're from tho
juggler pointing at their empty cheese snack bag: "Who did this. I'm not mad, I just wanna know."
Musician doesn't even like cheese
Plot twist: it was actually festival spin dancer. Them being lactose intolerant was a lie
or the spirits have medicine for it
Juggler after chaos ensues:
I did it. I couldn't open it and punched it till it burst and spilled on the floor then swept it up. In ten minutes from now I suspect half of them are gonna be at each others' throats. Good. It was getting chummy in here.
YOU GOT IT LMAOOO
Juggler is at fault for everything because of sheer boredom. 
thats what they get for looking like one of those troll dolls i guess
This is like a murder investigation but the victims are the cheese snacks
PDUDHHDHD
now i wanna make an animatic based off that lol
I open lorechat and this is the first thing I see
Thank you. This made my day 
They missed Ash when they drew that
i just imagined a plate with tiny bits of cheese snack left behind surrounded with crime scene tape
not saying if the plate is on a table or not
I can’t decide which is funnier: the cheese snack drawing, or the cheese snack drawing lore
both
I like to imagine it’s on the floor. They just crouched down and ate the stolen snacks right there.
plot twist: juggler was just going to feed their pet wooly manta
Musician is kicked out the Rhythm crew
the birth of buff actor
the typos make it better
That’s the point 
SALEM GOT A TALENT FOR AUTHENTIC-LOOKING WATTPAD FANFICS TBH
That is the weirdest compliment I have ever received, and I am gladly going to accept it
WAIT don’t some of that rhythm spirits show up to watch skater perform… imagining them getting super excited/nervous about that
awww
do you think the memory candle thing could have been used to spread vids like those 2005 youtube ones where they are complaining about not getting why relatives celebrate the new year because another year is another year closer to death
Juggler does
"hi actor" i said flirtily as i started to cry
You light a memoru candle and it projects one of those “if you don’t copy and paste this candle and send it to 10 relatives, a corrupted spirit will appear in your bedroom at night” copypastas
you forgot the ~
"Hey, I'm Krill, dark water bath, princess of the darkness..."
somewhat similar topic. what does everyone think ancestor memes would be like?? memory lanterns and candles PROVE that they had methods of spreading them similar to ours, not to mention murals…,,,
I think dorito wasteland elder is one 100%
ancestor memes truly is the greatest loss the fall of their civilisation brought
They’d probably have memes galore about the Crabs.
“It don’t bite.” “YES IT DO!”
hang on im gonna look up theater kid memes, maybe the rythm and performance crews were like that
There’s a massive hunt for the author of the valley eldars fic, like how there’s one for my immortal. When people find out it’s the famous dream skater they go insane
Okay but my immortal has fake characters. The Valley Elders are capable of finding her fic
Dream skater’s sibling says that can’t true and the skater’s book deal gets pulled
They’d either love it and frame it on the Temple wall or send it to the Vaults forbidden section. Perhaps both.
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS SITUATION
Valley Elders got the power to throw around a special investigation to find out the truth and don’t tell anyone. Suddenly the skater’s performances get huge anonymous sponsorships.
Apparently someone in another discord server I’m in personally knows the author. They’re still writing to this day, and they don’t want people to know they wrote it.
Depends, they might invite her to the temple and give her a reward because the chaos she caused was one of the funniest things they'd seen in forever
Nevermind, Alasdair has the best idea (tho they can be combined)
mellow musician would waterbottle flip bottles onto the lights above (ive seen it)
NAUR NOT THE WATERBOTTLES ON THE LIGHTS
someone broke one of the lights a day before we were to put on the play, do you know how much i struggled because my script got changed last minute
I think Frantic Stagehand would murder them
Someone replaces everyone’s script with the sky version of the bee movie script… the butterfly movie???
they would not be seen on the next day if they were somehow found out
By all the known laws of aviation, butterflies should not be able to-
Frantic Stagehand would bite
outed myself as someone that did theater class for two years back in my days oops, but yeah, i was operating lights and trust me, stagehands and anyone working backstage can and will go beast mode
Vela is fr*nch AND a theater kid? pick a struggle /j
…Dang, I’m actually thinking now of rewriting the entire bee movie but making it Sky themed.
Would anyone here read that if I did?
technically im not bc i only did 2 years in theater, and it wasnt even in france so jot that down
a struggle was picked. I stand corrected
Do you think the ancestors’ version of the Spider-Man pointing meme was the Lively Navigator pointing meme?
HELP
YOU'RE RIGHT
progress of the cheese thing 
"so who broke it"
edit: accidentally made him hot oh nu
protip: the frantic stagehand is faster than you
I did not need to see this /j
Is juggler not supposed to be attractive?
HGHJSDF
ok im lesbian but damn
accidentally or "accidentally"
That makes it sounds like I find juggler especially attractive when I just thought he wasn't meant to 'look bad' Performers look nice don't they?
This is another spirit’s dramatic fanart of the Cheese Snack Duel. It will be placed in a memory candle and sad music will play overtop it
oh dear i turned lore chat into juggler fans
{skybot nerfed the message earlier woop}
I do need his pants for other reasons
nah im a thoughtful director enjoyer, sorry juggler
crab call mama 
I thought you would die for Crab Whisperer
The crab propaganda continues…
Weren’t you lactose intolerant? Lactose intolerant people get sick about cheese and milk
|| or maybe you were just joking ||
well i thought we were talking about rythm spirits
I am in the hospital due to velas repeated cheesing of me and am in critical condition due to lactose intolerance. Like to throw more cheese at me, reblog to throw more cheese at me
eats cheese
throws cheese
Thats one of those sleepovers where sleeping isnt an option, have fun ^^
OMG UR ALIVE
Vela you draw things so quickly and well....literally magic 
KILLING AND VIOLENCE ON PLANET EARTH
Lorechat ecosystem food chain:
megabird -> me -> vela -> forgetful storyteller
HEY LOTUS!! YES IM ALIVE AND BREATHING XD How's your life been??
it's stagehand but

I would happily invite all prohecy spirits but since there are TWO FAST BOIS coming to my house , but I can have a sleepover now
I’m stupit
No you are a BOTAFULL HOMAN BEING AND IM SORRY FOR “ attacking you”
It aint a sleepover no more, its an all nighter for running
I have two cats inside me. Both share a singular brain cell.
No you are a BOTAFULL CAT BEING
they pat it around like a ball of yarn
I’m just imaging two cats doing that cute bum wiggle before they prance
OH CRAB THEY COMIN THROUGH THE WALLLS
Im thinking all out war for who gets to play with it, mini valley elders perhaps
no im the dummy here i have 3 braincells
2 keep arguing
THATS WHAT THE LITTLE DANCE SPIRITS DO WHEN THEY GET LIGHTS REMINDS ME OF
HELP MESH PLAYSE
YOUR ON YOUR OWN dash
the valley elder cutscene is a visual representation of what is happening in my brain 24/7
GLUES TO THE TOILET TO AVOID BEING FAST BOIS DINNER
the fire they bat as a homerun is my sanity
that’s the brain cell
i think it died
Whoever is victorious in the fight gets to watch videos of the skykids pulling pranks on forest elder. @unborn narwhal FAST BOIS GONNA FEAST ON BOTH 
the moth being the smallest bit of sanity you have left, watching the twins bat away the brain cell: 
TG LEFT SAND ALL THROUGH MY HOUSE AND ON THE WALLS AND FS LEFT PAINT ALL OVER THE FLOOR LIKE ITS SPLATOON OR SOMETHING
I TOLD YOU NOT TO BUY THAT SANDPIT
DUDE I TOLD YOU NOT TO INVITE THEM TO THE SLEEPOVER HAVE FUN IM OUT-
MY HOUSE LOOKS LIKE A GLITTERY SPLATOON MESS
get the pepper spray
that one peppa pig episode-
BUUT tg likes peppermint 
AHA- LAST RESORT...get the elders...................not the valley twins tho-
CRAB IM TRAPPED 
XD IMMA CALL THE POLICE
what are spirits scared of
Darkness
turn the lights off
Nah they scared of grammas cooking.
runs over to tisadi and asks him to SMOSH the intruders
HES TOO EMPATHETIC HE'LL END UP WATCHING INSIDE OUT ON NETFLIX WITH THEM FLYING THROUGH THE ROOF LIKE THE ILLUSTRATIONS OF ROALD DAHLS WRITING TwT.
NEVERMIND **asks ayin instead **
who those ppl
Tisadi is 
Ayin is 
Teth is 
AYIN IS BUSY WITH THE BOOTERFLIES TwT
NEEEVERMINDDDD asks teth
YOU THINK TETH WOULD LISTEN TO YOU XD
BURRITO EGG
ASKS TETH TO SCARE TG AND FS WITH HER HAMMER
Okie they gone
But teth was busy untraumatising her apprentice from tsadi's field trip...who did you call??
I call… || vault ||
How did they manage to take care of it?
call the burrito egg
They throw them in the....||drawer||
Oh. I was guessing the ||violence pit.||
To GeT rId Of ThE sPlaToOn PaInT aNd SaNd MeSs
Did you get rid of the spirits too...
but how
did they use permanent paint
ClEaN ( the slappover was actually in vault and vault elder hates dirty stuff)
(Stares at the piles of sand on the ground floor.)
sAmE ThInG...no one talks about the ground floor 
That’s not untrue…
B o b b i t
W O R M ?
Y E S.. T H E O N E T H A T C R A W L S I N T O L O R E C H A T A N D E A T S T H E .............C O M M U N I C A T I O N. B E W A R E
A H H H H H H H H. 
Yes
W H O D I D I T??
But this mess….
midway getting rid of tg and fs
She seems ready to kill....
He already got rid of tg by making him unconscious and Y E E T I N G H I M out of the house like a spooder
im scared now
It ok my house looks ok maybe a few stains here and there but it’s ok
thinking abt concept art hourz
ARE THOSE THE TRIALS
TJE FIRST ONE
unfortunately its tlp concept art bc iam burdened by being a sotlp liker 😔 /lh
OHHH THATS REALLY BEAT. RHE FIRST AND SECOND ONES REMINDS ME A LOR OF TRIAL OF AIR
oh man now i rlly wanna see prophecy concept art
:0… did any get released?? I’ve never seen it before
could not imagine how many desihns and redesigns would go into it
and not that im aware of unfortunately AGH, the mid seasons have lile. no concept art im aware of
Onhhhhhh
man I want to see it so badly now too…
missing the prophecy concept art ive never seen
admiring actor: dont look at me, look at mellow
mellow musician: falls
all this because of 🧀 can you believe it
oooaghhh… and enchanned ment art… slink what have u done
Is the hermit valley the tallest point in sky or atleast one of them? Evidence being the inability to see the mountain summit Through the clouds, I'm not entirely sure thats an indicator however, given a lot of spaces don't have visible sight of the summit
cant believe im working on an animatic because of the headcanon of mellow being kicked out or rhythm, juggler being a cheese dude, and an actor and mellow interaction that just doesnt exist in game
edit: welcome to lore chat ig
Orbit, being in space, is the tallest point in Sky. Or the Eden mountain if you want a place in atmosphere.
I’m So Excited the cheese saga continues
i still dont know who started the whole juggler likes cheese thing but im not regreting it
cause i get to draw juggler in a way that earns him fans ig
No that makes sense. The Scaling is strange to me in this game.
@rigid mural . Theu ha s started many funny shenangings
Would the sanctuary Islands be the lowest point then?
of course it's vela
when in doubt. yes it was them
me @ all of you
vela not this again
iit was afecrionate I look up to u. vela as role model? horrible idea. but true and fun
i've taken root in lore chat like an invasive ivy
yes.,
And we graciously accept that Ivy. 
yeah even as a lurker most of the time i can very much recognise salem, vela, alasdair, slink, and occasionally ash
aww shucks you guys
Why are you excited to be sent to the hospital again /j
OKAY I PROKMISE O AM GOOING TO BED NOW
GO TO SNEEP SNORP 🛏️
retyping this bc i worded it incorrectly
vela ur the reason im doing the little doodles and gifs and sending em here i genuinely enjoy drawing them ydgjhdhgdhsfds
What happened while I was gone? I am scared of cheese now
this happened
they are friends 💛
TJAMK UOU I have just met u but u seem really nice :-)
ready to make a gif
I am the stray cat everyone here feeds
instead of bean, we have cheese
Yeah I definitely did something to juggler cause previously I never did them like this 
edit: yeah i am a fan of my own creation 
They got hit with the hottening beam
megabird possessed me while drawing this and said make them hot i swear
*Juggler possessed u
yeah juggler took control of me and now i crave ice cream too
didnt know sky spirits could do that
This is my favorite cape of the season.
||I am very late to this||
ok but yes
it is very swag
Ok but imagine Mellow Musician and Cackling Canoneer being besties
Mellow Musician actually being able to play cannoneer's sheet
mellow casually gives a stupid dare, then canoneer actually does it
Mellow: So like I dare you to join the Abyss crew
months later
Canoneer: Haha I did it
they followed eachother on instagram when they met during the days of rainbow
I think mellow musician and chill sunbather would get along. vibing buddies
ofc it had to be days of rainbow 🙄
gays that arent attracted to each other but casually gives each other dating advice
i tried 😔
KILLT
cheese
that’s how the abyss spirits died
This is how the King canonically died
So did the ancestors reproduce in the "human way" or do they come from stars or something?

I got recognized 
...yes to which option lol

Understood. Thank you
I can't wait to play Cannoneer's sheet on an electric guitar
okay okay but i expect mellow to be the one that teaches canoneer how to play the electric guitar
and one of the songs is that one tiktok audio where it's run run from fnaf but electric guitar cover 
and canoneer especially plays it when missing mellow
since cannoneer learned their favorite song from angler, and we know angler is a fan of sea shanties, I propose cannoneer sea shanty metal cover on the electric guitar
Yes, then mellow vibes along while canoneer does a solo on the guitar omg
oh no his cheese
it's broken
Mellow Musician would shred it on guitar hero.
Through the Fire and the Flames by Dragonforce anyone ?
rip my eardrums
IT'S A REALLY GOOD SONG
defo seems like something mellow would teach canoneer
like mellow would do electric guitar, canoneer would do drums
I may be an uncultured swine when it comes to alternative music but I love metal and punk so much. Even if I listen to only 3 bands but that's my problem.
Consider this: they both fight over who leads and who does bass.
YES
ABSOLUTELY
they both want to lead and play bass.
ok but who would be the singer
Anxious Angler
darn now i wanna draw the trio just jammin out
yknow what i find funny? like how most of the sky fandom just decided canoneer is together with angler
yeah i think theyd be together too ngl
So Mellow Musician has been released huh
Musician: *makes manta calls on the guitar
Someone who knows: STOP IT!! YOU'RE MAKING YOUR GUITAR SCREAM!!!!
Musician: Dude what
Someone who knows: DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR POWER SOURCE IS MADE OF?!
Musician: Aren't those just magic rocks?
Someone who knows: Dear birds....
Skykid: Okay gang, Mellow's guitar has run out of power. Now... (takes out torch) Angler, Cannoneer, I need to burn one of your capes to power it again. Which one will it be?
Angler: W-why do you need to burn our capes...?
Skykid: Your capes have the power source we need for the guitar.
Cannoneer: BIRDDAMIT, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST ASK?! (detaches darkstone pendant from cape and yeets it to skykid so hard they fall over)
The visual in my head for the second one 
I wish I could animate it
What's a megabird?
Saw it's mentioned somewhere and it said it's like the Force or smth smth
as in, The Force from Star Wars?
Yeahhh... not sure if that's what it is...
some think of it as a god, some think of it as the creator of life, etc, etc.
It's the galaxy supercluster we see at the very end of the credits. Just like what Fruitzie said, some think it is the god of the Sky universe. Others think Megabird is a manifested cycle as everything that dies goes through him to be reborn
Here's Megabird. Fun fact, our galaxy belongs to a supercluster called Laniakea and it looks like a Sky manta 
It occurs to me that our capes – the lil teardrop shape at the top of the screen with our wedges – it fills the negative spaces of Megabird's silhouette 
He could be the "Light" that shows us the way when we honk and the one in the game title. If Sky Kids are the children of light/Megabird, then that means Sky Kids are like the direct descendants of Megabird which explains the teardrop shape of our capes fitting almost perfectly in Megabird's empty space. As if he had to sacrifice a part of himself in order to create Sky Kids to save the Kingdom of Sky 
Either that or he's just one wacky manta-looking creature with a large wingspan with a bunch of strips for wings 
I see. 
guys explain eden n the king my dad is confused
Is it just me or has TGC removed all king related stuff on sky
Don't worry there are still King statues/turrets in Wasteland
Not super lore related but
days of bloom 🤝 days of rainbows...
The bloom guide (and possibly lightseeker qg) is nonbinary.
Aren't they all
You're right but especially them for that cape.
sleek
so progress on the cheese animatic is on its way
while i edit it with the audio have this pic of every frame together like a beautiful monstrosity
oh darn dear
Abstract art.
the extract of chaos caused because of cheese
Spotted in the news 
ooh
we're getting a new coat cape eh
hair
Confirmed spirits can't wear coats the normal way.
Dancing Performer, Bumbling Boatswain and Performance Questgiver:
I wonder if they're actually coats or if 'cape that looks like a coat' is just popular fashion trend for spirits (for skids at least, it might just be that they're channeling their winged lights into an object to act as wings) Would it look good if they wore them properly?
There is concept art of the Boatswain cape being worn properly
I feel like it's to more easily visualize how they look on skids and some spirits can wear coats properly.
share please I am begging u 
Literally all the spirits who wear coat capes are exactly the kinda spirits who'd wear a coat as a cape to look cool
We have a performer, a pirate, and another performer
I mean, coats as capes are cool
especially tailed coats
feast your eyes
also
I think Boatswain just at one point forgot how to put their arms in things /hj
Seal pubby my beloved 
cackling cannoneer just wasnt a thing exactly oof 
I think it's because Cannoneer's cape isn't something that normal Wasteland citizens wear
after all it appears to be made of fishskin
either way, sky devs put their whole soul into making cannoneer so gender and gender noncomforming at the same time i wanna be cannoneer
Cannoneer appeals to all
Do you think Cannoneer was specifically built to be loved by the fandom so that everyone would get shocked at their fate?
They've got the edgy looks, the arson, the hammy personality that attracts the crowd, a weapon, the look that appeals to all genders...
TGC knew Cannonneer would be popular, I bet hearts on it.
I mean, I didn't actually like cannoneer until right before the final quest. Either way, when the final quest is 'save this person', you want players to want to save them
(I would've included the OP name but it's a name that WILL get me beaned)
Yes very much agree tumblr op whom i know because i constantly search up stuff about the cannoneer
A: Now get out there and do (dangerous mission that requires getting past Cannoneer)!
B: Alright!
(5 minutes later)
B: I CAN'T!
A: WHAT?!
B: CANNONEER SEDUCED ME!
A: I SAW IT THEY LITERALLY STARED AT YOU!
B: I KNOW!!
A: I THOUGHT YOU WERE UNSEDUCABLE!
B: SOMEONE HELP ME!!
No wonder they have a big ego
They can definitely carry me
Cackling Cannoneer hit them one to many times over the head lol
(Just a headcanon of mine that the Cannoneer likes to hit Boatswain get into fights a lot, so the captain has to break it up)
How did I not notice the similarity before?
And the Forgotten Ark does have the Megabird on its murals… maybe the Enchantment Travelers loved and worshiped Megabird
Omggggggg❤
I see lorechat is talking about god and being too queer to function again
hello dair
I headcanon that Cannoneer is a Megabird atheist
ah yes
so the animatic about juggler liking cheese, mellow being an exmember of rhythm and friends with cannoneer alongside cannoneer being with angler based on regular lore chat shenaniganes is done but i cant post it in #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations yet because i just so happen to be dumbdumb enough to send the message without the attachment 
OH NO
CAN YOU SEND IT HERE
OH YEAH I CAN LET ME JUST FIND IT IN MY MESSY FILES
This animatic is as chaotic as lore chat and is a gift to lore chat as a lurker (now more active) member 
edit: forgot to change some subs but it's still funny
This is awesome
Let's see how long until we forget that Cannoneer exists
Cannoneer may have ascended to the stars, but they will forever live on in our hearts. 
Live footage of orbit
HDHDKDHDKHDDJHDHDHD
Skykid: man I feel bad for the spirits stuck in orbit… it looks really empty and lonely…
Orbit:
More possible evidence for them being isle refugees… hmm
The usual. Chaos more like gayos.
Storm (Beta Eden) used to have giant statues of the Elders
Cannoneer is the best character 10/10
Old message but I felt like there's another explanation for why we can't see
when we honk in Valley:
It's supposed to represent adulthood. And to me, that's a time in one's life when we're just finding our own path and shaping our future. We pave our own path...
...and so there's no objective in sight.
Perfect
Starfish.. or maybe something else?
A shuriken

What was Eden
I know like castle of King but
It doesn't look like a Square in front of the castle
More like Factory
This huge tubes
And what the kind of house is it?
Mine
Now that all the spirits of Performance have been publicly revealed by TGC, does that mean we're allowed to discuss the lore implications of the darkstone guitar ?
Powered instruments go brrrr
Also I wanna talk about the implications of a darkstone instrument being able to imitate the calls of light creatures because I found that to be specially interesting
i really love how the guitar is divided in two yet still is one item
also why are you pitting two kings against eachother, they go to pride together !
good point
Also yeah I found it very cool how half of the guitar is literally floating
maybe it implies darkstone indeed makes stuff floaty 
It would make sense
You can be friends with both Cackling Cannoneer and Mellow Musician if you’re not a coward /j
we all too soon forgot lively navigator 😔
I can't argue against that
I want their goggles but beside the point
Which Valley Elder is the theatre kid
Floaty talk made me realize that oh right it is in two pieces and connected with some electricity-looking biz
This completely changed my perception of how darkstone works when I first saw it
I wonder how you would tune an powered diamond guitar. Does it just automatically tune itself
maybe it depends on how much light is in there ?
Possibly just how real life resonance crystals are tuned
By carving them into a very specific shape and form
Also makes sense if you consider darkstone energy to be an equivalent to electricity
I really like that this shows darkstone itself or its use isn't evil, but that its mass production probably was a huge part of the problem.
Look at that guitarist with their funky darkstone instrument...
Can i make request here if i want something for the story i want to write for sky.
Wdym?
I want to write a story of sky...my way...n how i percieve the game....for that i need the starting video of game...not sure if i can get it on you tube. 🤔
it's your story, you can do whatever you want with it. don't gotta have permission to write your own story
If it's a summary of the lore you seek, you might be dissapointed to know we're looking for one as well 
But i need the first video of sky...dont know where to get it From....i wanted to write a prologue or something
wdym by "first video?" there's tons of videos on youtube from full playthroughs to tutorials and Light Awaits stuff
You want a video of the intro ?
Yeah, just look up a playthrough on Youtube. You can also just go back through the Isle of Dawn, the experience is pretty much the same as when you were a moth save for a winged light placement.
Okay maybe i will do that.
Honestly the intro is really beautiful. I rewatched it recently and got so much nostalgia
Prolouge...then first chapter...
that one intro is unused now but you can easily find it on youtube
https://youtu.be/3RvmarBWfl8
here
there were a couple brief periods where newborn skykids landed on the Isle instead of Home and as someone who falls into that category, I still stand that this is true in my ficverse
My english is not that good....but i will try my best....to produce what i imagine through my words.
writing is difficult but fulfilling, especially in one's non-native language. from one writer to another – godspeed ✨
Thank you very much.
My speed be like 🐌
But its gonna be awesome...i promise. As i myself am one of the characters.
same, tbh. I'm a slow writer, being a college student impedes on my WIPs unless I tie it in with my assignments
intro cave wall paintings weren't always the way i knew them, huh
praising falling stars? 
looks like stuff that we can nowadays find drawn on the Ark
what ended the lives of the spirits?
What if spirits can’t have children and they rely on the falling stars that end up being children
i know beta secrets that would get me in trouble
if they are spirits that means they were alive at one point
Maby
But then why just some spirits? Like in valley it’s a city and there are very little spirits we cans find
there's prob more spirits in-universe that aren't depicted in game cos that'd be hell on mobile devices
Maby the abandonment of the fabrics?
- Diamond technology caused corruption
- Corruption spread (possibly from Eden to the rest of the kingdom)
- There was a war??? (Wasteland)
- Spirits with unfinished business need our help to ascend - it's not practical that everyone in the kingdom would have had unfinished business, so (this idea was mine)
Ooo I like it
this would make sense. good job!
But what do you mean by unfinished businesses ?
meaning things they wanted to do before they died
there's a trope that ghosts of the dead don't want to or can't move onto the afterlife without completing some to-do list of things they wanted to do on the living world before dying
but if the corruption spread why is daylight not affected?
Lol, so some spirit whanted to feel cold before leaving.
There's this common belief that ghosts are dead people who haven't been able to cross over because there was something in life they couldn't do. So they haunt places and possess people. (These are not my personal beliefs.)
To free ghosts, it becomes the job of the living to find out what the ghost is missing and return it to them - do it for them, etc. And then they can be free of the limbo.
we don't know how far darkness spread in the initial stages of the Storm, if it ever receded or continues to grow. do consider that there are darkness plants on the bells in the Prairie village just below the Elder temple
Oh thanks for answering😁
It is though?
The mold on the Prairie bells
Crabs in Sanc
maybe the worlds are the stages that the world went through?
hey fellas im just putting this here since ash seems to have said all the intros that went in live were relevant
That is also my idea especially based on the Vault cutscene - all the constellations show how a civilization progresses
- Isle - finding new land
- Prairie - learning to coexist
- Forest - using the land to your advantage
- Valley - Peak of civilization
- Wasteland - civilization falls to war/famine/disaster
- Vault - trying to retain knowledge to rebuild and get better, learning from the past
i also thought of the same thing
also maybe there is a reason the seasons are each in their worlds. like isle has prophcy
the realms are associated with stages of life and stages of civilisation yes ! trying to find the picture showing that
Prophecy has new, strange content in the Trials. Sanctuary is coexisting with the mantas. Assembly is about finding objects to build a Treehouse. Dreams is about celebration and festivities. Enchantment and Abyss show something ruined.
where we cants use our capes to fly. so they didnt know of wl then.then is daylight we have sanc which representing peace bc it was the great start to the civilisation . then in forest assembly was them finding the objects to build with and flight was them learning to use the wl and capes. valley was the peak of their civilisation when they started focusing on entertainment (preformance) and passions (dreams)
as the person above me says both a abyss and enchantment show the fall of the world as it crumbles down and krills take over. then the little prince which was in vault might be showing how the spirits left their land just like he left his planet
https://youtu.be/fWjd7R-GykY
2017 BETA STUFF WOOOOOOOO-
My lore theory: A long time ago, before the spirits discovered eden, they lived happy lives. Prairie was very peaceful, isle was mostly deserted. Forest had no rain, valley hosted races charging candles for admission and got their food and supplies from wasteland, which was a trading post. Vault was like the community library. Then, they discovered eden. And many moved there. It was paradise for a while; the biggest city they had. The king used the crystal to power everything and his castle was humongous. Then, he got greedy. He used the crystal’s power for his own gain and benefit. However, he was corrupting the crystal as well and soon it blew up. It cast shards of itself all over the realm, blew boulders from their place and started a huge storm. Everything became uninhabitable and the darkness took over the realm. The darkness spread to wasteland, where a huge war was held. Mantas we’re corrupted and turned into krill. Butterflies turned into crabs. The spirits lost the war, but in their last moments, sealed the corrupted realms off, allowing the others to live safely. However, the elders saw a dark future. They called upon the start for help, and the stars sent us. However, minimal amounts of darkness leaked into the other realms, putting crabs into prairie and starting the poison rain in forest. Valley was unaffected, but since they lived on a cold mountain, they got their food from elsewhere (wasteland) and after wasteland collapsed, they starved. Isle was not affected in any way, being the farthest portal from eden. Others tried to restore light, but didn’t make it. So now we have to return their light to them. Every time we go to eden, the crystal’s dark energy drains and it screams in pain. When we ascend spirits, we allow them to return to the stars to have a peaceful afterlife.
this is also a very good theory!
noticed something about eden, maybe its true state is what we see in the realms, then in hell (red eden with krills) as it gradually breaks down, but what we see in orbit is dreamlike, much like the vault, to give us an idea of what the place looked like in the past
I have a headcanon that the person we hug in orbit projects the “former” Eden for us as a thank you when we give them their light back. I’m not super willing to declare it as anything close to canon because it’s just a cute/sad thought on my end, but it might be relevant here.
Talking of Eden, I just went back from the start of orbit, and discovered this, the same diamond that forest and vault elders use?
HUH ??? wym went back from the start of orbit ? that doesnt look like it should be here...
I know, I've never seen it there before, and by "back to the start" , I mean I called down the elders, then went back to where the ones we saved ascend and give us ascended candles
HUH. well im planning an eden run later this week as well so... will try
I'm literally in Orbit rn, I can go check
I'm thinking it's a leftover from the Forest Elder's previous Eden cutscene cos apparently they reassembled a diamond there too
could be that !
oh you called down the Elders, I haven't completed any constellations hmm
OK now I'm on a fact finding mission, it's not there at the very start before calling elders down... Now for the long run research
Did you call them all down, or just 1 or 2? Was Forest Elder one of them?
All of them, but research was simple, call down forest elder, run back to the start skipping the cutscene and the diamond assembles
Now I wonder what other elder assets assemble around orbit....
You gotta check not Forest Elder
I'll do a vid
Interesting!
tgc ur assets!!