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Ima keep reading this thanks!
iirc wasn't one of those quips from the lost livestream saying that skykids and ancestors were "subspecies" or something of the like? so not to quote "the same" but differently different
Where might I ask?
Easy answer to why. Someone on the ark made a bet with the megabird that they wouldnt spite the ark down midway through its journey and megabird taking none of it accepted the bet.
I thought that was about elders and sky kids
I believe the entrance to Cave of Prophecies but I haven't checked in a while so I may be wrong
There isn't anything that looks like the forest flooded, maybe your confusing clouds with water
Ill go check around, I'm not sure where I saw it
I could be wrong /shrug
Yeah, I think the only mural of the Forest in that cave has to do with fire, not water.
It's a lost stream anyway
Lost stram?
Lost stream. We can’t access it anymore.
*goes to r/lostme-
I see the fire now, the first time I really observed them was before I did the trials
Yeah
Think I thought all the runes were telling a story since the first rune is rain
shoves it into my we are elders theory
I really need to see this lost stream before I take anything from it as canon tho
Same since I have connections theories between the spirits and sky kids
what’s up guys. I was given responsibility to guide enn and alasdair through quests and I got us krilled within 30 seconds
I think it was about elders, though I could always check the outdated lore doc at a more reasonable hour...
Congrats
I have a theory based in no truth that the krills love switch players
Simply cause it's easier to dodge on switch
Krills have preferences.
…
Not sure if I like them more or less now.
Are you guys not taking shelter as soon as you're spotted ??? 
No. I didn’t trigger the krill on us, I flew straight into it while it was diving for the manta
Godspeed
BAHHAHA no.
Krills are biased
A lot of people I know like to play around with the Krills. 
I'm surprised you're the only one who got their light eaten
Salem decided to dive in front of the krill as it was attacking the manta
I play with krills too, funni shrimp
They're easy to dodge on wide open terrain, your biggest ennemy will be bonking into stuff.
I thought Salem was gonna drive forward to get attention instead of the manta and then dive for the pillar, but they very much did not do that
I was given back navigation ability and then I got us knocked over by crabs
Ohh dailies, Yeah I won't be doing thoses today. Not enough WL to brave the wasteland
Again, Salem was the only one who got knocked over. The creatures of wasteland really hated Salem today
we had to play the wasfeland elder cutscene to get into vault, and because of this maltreatment I skipped it out of spite. I have an amander complex now (this is a joke I love wasteland elder)
Gotta krill train if you wanna do wasteland
Its Ok Salem, I might've done the same
I am a master of wasteland. If you want, you can send me a link and I can take you. 
I had no idea the krill would do that
You guys don't get it, you gotta be one with the crabs to understand them and not get targeted first.
Exhibit A:
crab whisperer mugged me today.
they knew you were gonna get krilled and took the light before it was lost
Pro tip: when group flying in wasteland abandon your friends when spotted split up and all take cover
Crab Whisperer is part seagull
Filthy sky rats. This is unfortunate news.
Where is that? I don't recognize it
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
SEAGULLS ARE UNDERRATED
It’s at hidden forest temple… what is it?
Wait… do spirits doing emotes mean they had to meet the spirit who teaches them those emotes, like we do? Does them using leveled up versions of that emote mean they’re friends with the spirit who taaughf them?
Crab whisperer 🤝 crab walker
Maybe it’s pigeons I’m thinking of for rats with wings. 
Crab Whisperer and Crab Walker definitely get along
Don't take my word on it, but I think it's an unused asset from the winter season/beta season of rythm in light awaits.
I'll have to check that out later
All birds are angels. Except me but you get my point.
Hmmm? But this is soo new? I’ve never seen this here
It's pretty hard to reach tbh, it was here before I started playing.
You can’t get in but try if you can
I’ve been playing since the beginning…. That’s why I know
if this is true then all of the Lightseekers are best friends with levitating adept for whatever reason
Also for context I mean meeting in the afterlife not while they were alive
Bet I have a veteran friend who probably can get me there /lh
I wish I was Levitating Adept.
Awesome 😎
same… 😔
Their so pretty ]
I'd share a cup of tea with so many spirits...
I'd share a fish with Cackling Canonner
REAL LORE FACT: forgotten ark is based off Noah’s ark, but tgc replaced the animals on it with furries (ench spirits)
AEITHER DIES
I decided to stop my lore of sky fiction for awhile until I fine run it 😮💨
you need help fine tuning it?
Maybe? Can you draw? I might redo the whole WEBTOON
BAHAHHA
wait you have a webtoon?
Yeah…. It’s not hard to find since it’s name is similar “sky the child of light”
i think that'd be a bit hard to find given how search engines work
On WEBTOON.
Oh! You created that?! That's so cool! :D
@frigid tinsel this
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/sky-the-child-of-light/list?title_no=474980
YOUR ARTSTYLE IS SO PRETTY!
Thanks 😊 since people like it I want to redo it. So it’s similar. I might revamp it. So I’m stopping atm
Oh... to answer your question I can draw and I do draw comics but they're all oneshots and my style is very different and more simple than yours
Oh, I love that webcomic! Nice job. 
wait you made that comic wionfdsjfsdbn
as what?
😂 that’s a typo. It’s just “it’s okay”
And yes I do to everyone that asked
Webcomics are cool but I don't have the commitment or skills to make one so I stick to oneshots for now
edit: AAAAAAA IT'S ONESHOTS
Honestly same, and I need to refine my art a bit more
True it’s so tiring…. So I have a hard time. But I actually started the comic to better my art and understanding of webcomics. Hence why the art changes. And since sky is making a show I decided to start my own comic for the meantime while taking a break from sky
Oh cuuuttee! 
would anyone like an Essaypost about the proph/ench lights
okay so the whole implication around abyss, with water [esp the deep ocean] being connected to darkness, really got me thinking. Of COURSE the deep ocean is a place heavily associated with darkness — there’s no light there, and any light that’s brought into it doesn’t reach nearly as far as it does above the surface. It’s cold, and although it’s far from devoid of life, it still feels so… empty. Since the deep ocean is connected to darkness, we can say water in general is as well, for symbolism reasons, and because it makes sense. I mean, water is the entire reason the deep ocean is Like That in terms of light, right?
But this leads to an implication. Red light is obviously connected to darkness, which makes 2/6 lights connected to darkness. If we find one more that is, it’s an even split between darkness-aligned magic and light-aligned magic, which feels like the intuitive course here.
It was a toss up between earth and air, because fire is instantly disqualified, and I chose earth. Just like lots of water being in one place = darkness, lots of earth being in one place = darkness. The underground is dark and isolating. Light doesn’t travel far there either, it seems very barren as a whole, etc.
TLDR: you can divide the colored lights in half between those that are aligned more to light and those that are aligned more to darkness.
enjoy
Sudden realization... Scarecrow is another Propless TS..
M A N 
How lucky I got at least the Orange Orb (Fire Element)
😅
...ooh, good point 
Maybe it's another barack still in GW, after all the "forbidden city" in concept art shows Wasteland to be a huge city of blinding lights... now we saw just 3-4 buildings
Or maybe blue paint has fallen over the time revealing the few symbol we see.
Another option could be that who worken on the new concept forgot a details or experimented a new one. Or maybe this was a draft building from a previous point in development which now is coming to life (simikar case to that sort of "black hole" darkness which ended up becoming the Fire Trial startin point)
I thibk the first one could be an Ancestor while the second one could either be a ancestor's kid or a sky kid
@dapper storm getting inside is not difficult
Whoa 😂
You need to exit from the temple door, but instead of flying into the cloud you need to get on top of the temple, there is a strong wind wall there, so you cannot fly onward, but oddly enough you can easily walk behind the windwall 
Once you passed it you can fly again towards that corner room direction and fall into it (careful, with the new swimming system you risk to dive below the water level and fall at the bottom of the nothingness of the map)
If you have not much wingpower you need to use well gliding to land on top of the temple exit door, then flap a bit vertically to touch the clouds and recharge before walking past the wind barrier
But anyway that secret corner room is barren, even if it's a nice spot 
In an old Sky Light Awaits (Old Beta) video I watched there used to be the Thinking Spirit
analysing a contraption wheel, made of different concentrical disks, each rotating at different speeds so that dots on different rings composed various spiral patterns
I think it was in either a Tara's Sky or Nastymold video on YT
lorechat
why is there a strange blue light in the GW social area?
where exactly?
edit: send screenshot pls?
I think near the closet area
yeah, it's by the closet - idk why there's blue (ancestor/tech/krill) light there
pics pls?
found a good video from Tara's Sky 
https://youtu.be/UaZw_g5JsL0?t=60
we crave for you pic 
Just kidddin, but it could at least help to picture your problem 
Inexplicable blue light?
h u h
mmmm
how does it blue
it could be an unexpected texture bug... or maybe they changed it
I don't hang out on GW social area alot, but I think it wasn't so bright before 
Realistically, if sky kids were to open their eyes it would be like that one mega flashlight, thank you for coming to my ted talk
it is strange it is even visible from afar
also - there's a new buggy lighting thing in Forest - when you look forward from the social area we see the sunset orange-yellow light of Valley in the cloud tunnel - SKY W H A E Y
also the blue light in gw has survived many patches - why
While looking for the corner room footage on YT I also noticed two things
- the Tearful Light Miner had a intact tombstone back then

- In old Forest cutscene the Elder lifted the diamond to insert it on a "golden container" meaning those might have some amplification property for powerstones

it might be that the devs updated a bit the lighting in Forest social area, after all they had to make the ambient perfect for the new guests 
that kinda looks like the thing on the ceiling in forest's temple. im not sure, just saying
yes, it is. If you look at that giant golden "dynamo" before the Elder cutscene there is a big empty slot. Then after the cutscene the golden "container" is on that slot
I wish we had more details in game about their names and uses, instead of trying to figure out most of those.
Maybe we could call it golden adapter
, cause here it's used to put a power diamond (prism) on a slot bigger than it
I just noticed this used to be a mine field
frog
can someone tell me what the place behind the four player door in vault actually is? like, is it actually just a grave? or is there something else?
l no Ionger caII diamonds diamonds, l caII them octahedrons
If you’re talking about the one on the ground floor then ig
I wonder if it's for lore reasons that Days events feature returning spirits now who hang out as a group. Maybe the spirits are a bit healthier now than before, because of sky kids.
Maybe Megabird is softening
Yes, there is a mural showing the mined resources/raw crystals were sent to the main tower/lighthouse, here is a picture near the new Shared Space Shrine in Treasure Reef
It seems a little cemetery, yes. But maybe that room and the tunnel behind the Door you need to open for Rhythm Director had some other roles back then
Maybe only after greeting all the refugees from Wasteland that circular room, which seems to have flowers (a garden, maybe), was converted intoma fitting peaceful spot to bury who didn't survive 
Ooh, that's a nice way to think about them! 
So after the season ends and after a bunch of TS grew stronger (ascension and candles) they could gain new abilities and return to find new ways to thanks the skykids 
🔵
OOPS not this one 😅
We could have got a new Orb as a Prop from this TS
Scarecrow Farmer could have brought us Green Light / Earth Element
🟢 
Teb: gimme,,,,,,,,,,, orb,,,,,,,
I can only give it to you if I could enter Office, I have Orange Light on a shared space (tho I cannot recall which was the TS who brought it.. Sleepy Carpeter or Playfight Witch)
I wish we could get save Shared Spaces on files, I'm kind of affection to the weird badly shaped ones 😅
#screenshots-and-videos message
Here is an old picture of a scrapped shape
OOF REVERSE MITOSIS
LOL yeah
I think back then I hoped to get 2 other colored orbs, so I put 2 more as placeholder
For the record, orange orn are just light, despite its icon showing the fire emblem (back then the flames of Enchantment, now the Prophecy emblem) it has no effect/function whatsoever, no flame or recharging power, not even solid one (I tried to sit, but noope
)
I'm not too knowledgeable in the ways of environmental changes but I had a weird thought. How have the scarecrow farmer's little farming rows by the ark not been flattened out by all the sand and dust flying around?
If not flatenned out, at least covered and leveled. Could this mean that maybe they r more..... Recent?
Probably for the sake of storytelling.
Us skykids are not archaeologists. It is for that reason we have crumbling buildings instead of foundation lines in the ground. The reason we have spirits instead of mummified remains. The reason we have creatures that survived long enough in a cage to be saved, instead of holding cells with animal bones in them.
True true... We don't have shovels and DNA tests 😂
Sky: Criminologists of the Light
Sky: True Crime
Sky: Detectives of the Light
Sky: SWAT Officers of the Light
the game would be completely different, but it actually does sound interesting ngl
Hey lore chat, little question, from where do you get information of what is cannon that isn’t shown in the game?
Sky has a social media presence on Instagram and Twitter! :D
Aw man
Reality is often disappointing 
Sky is like an onion, it has layers and the more you cut into them, the more you can to cry.
But why is that so true
On the one hand you have tiny babies playing with baby mantas
On the other hand you have a corrupt king who led their kingdom to destruction (possibly) with weaponized krills
How was sky kids made? Are they made of rocks?
They fell from the sky (Isle murals, post credits)
But they have unusually durable bodies, yes
theyre made of peanuts
They’re thought to be made of a clay-like substance with light infused I. Them
So sky children are fallen angels?
Not really: they’re angels sent by The Light to accomplish their goals
Never thought of it that way 
They're angels the same way children are angels, I guess 
The goal is to die repeatedly every week
The Skykid’s goal is actually more nuanced than that. If you’d like, I’ll provide a list of potential reasons
Sure
Is it alright if I share the clips of Crab Whisperer being a sorcerer?
How does one learn so mich from skillshare in such a short amount of time??
One idea is that Skykids we’re sent to help the spirits and make them ascend.
Another one is that Skykids were sent to help combat the darkness creeping into the kingdom.
My idea is that Skykids were sent to help repair and rebuild this ruined world.Enchantment, Sanctuary, Assembly, and Flight support this idea.
Indeed they are repairing things
BUT WHAT FOR

to rebuild the Kingdom after it fell
woo
wooooooooo
I pretty much agree with Baudshaw. I think “returning spirits to the stars” are the skykids’ explicit mission but the other two are their implicit missions suggested by what skykids’ presence in the world is doing
This could be a preparation to another war
If you think about it
why skykids repair almost everything but the adults are dead
And darkness stays also
Why do you think there’s going to be another war? I think that’s something to avoid.
We’re not even sure why the ancestors had a war the first time.
There are weapons like cannons and catapult in sky
Why its there
And skykids can use those
Those are likely remnants from the ancestors’ war
If we ignore the "social game" the events of some season can lead to war
Wdym?
The prophecy why does it train skykids to face super hard challenges
The flight why does skykids need faster access to other realms
Assembly why skykids needs to operate in teams
Abyss why is a monstrous krill hides there and skykids almost killed it but skykids doesnt have enough power
Next up, the performance to distract from dire times
I think I'd say that there was never an intention to kill the monster but rather to save it and to free it from the darkness within it
After all, our sky kid getting swallowed by it was an accident on our part, not intentional
but that didnt work ,bc if you go down the big guy is still there
Yes but he coexists and lives with the light creatures down there now... Rather than bothering us and eating us like before, it's passive now
What the Trials train contemporary skykids for is up to debate (if they are “training” us at all), but we see from the Cave of Prophecies that the Trials were originally to find a Chosen One who would unlock the colored lights from the end of the Trials and possibly unite the realms around Eden. Which happened — contemporary skykids follow the Chosen One’s footsteps and see the prophecy come to fruition via the appearance of the murals.
The reopening of the Wind Paths are a sign of the world recovering from darkness. They probably closed due to neglect and the oncoming darkness (see: Flight quest 4). They are also convenient. The seasonal areas they go to are out of the ways and liable to be neglected. With the wind paths, various places throughout the realms are more accessible, which can be used for more purposes rather than warfare.
Assembly simply reasserted a central theme of Sky: togetherness and companionship. With friends, working together, people and skykids can accomplish so much more than they can alone.
Yes, skykids aren’t an efficient means to countering the darkness and some things, such as reversing the effects of corruptions on dark creatures, may be totally beyond their capabilities. But they are able to do small yet impactful things, such as saving people (Cannoneer) and light creatures from being lost to darkness. We don’t know for sure how the leviathan got there in the first place, but the murals around Treasure Reef imply that the ancestors created the leviathan, whether intentionally or by accident in the process of making power diamonds.
Alasdair I love u..... So much reading material 
i agree, i think they're in a more dormant state now
I see I view it in wrong way haha
I really want a war in the game
im geussing gw is ur fav realm
No doubt
We have no business worrying about Sky's future when we can barely make out its past 💀lol
The abyss tower with winglight
I still wonder if its really only a simple tower with winglight
There's gotta b stuff in there I agree
I think it was originally the entrance to quest 4, but they changed it
Did they change it tho? That tower is directly above the door underwater to the void where the leviathan was
But the thing that intrigues me the most is the
Angel statue thing in prairie
I mean what the heck was that angel stone
War is so antithetical to Sky’s main theme — rooted in divisiveness and hostility, leading to destruction and devastation. We see the consequences of the ancestors’ war most acutely in the Wasteland. There’s also a theory that the Wind Paths originally closed to slow down the war effort by making travel less convenient.
Of course, the only thing stopping skykids from going to war among themselves is their innate love for companionship among themselves, but they are not monolith. They are also kids. I doubt they can create an all out total war with devastating effects on the landscape but they could divide themselves into factions and fight by squabbling, leaving all but hurt feelings and grudges
So you guys dont have any idea about the angel stone also?
It's a leftover from Sky Light awaits, iirc it used to be the home shrine, theres one in the forest too
It just showed up in an update without explanation so we’re clueless
The imagery really intrigues me tho, I think it is meant to look like a sky kid
I see
Yeah I tried to go to old prairie oob before and im surprised its beautiful even its only oob
It sure does resemble the Home shrine, but I haven’t heard anything about it appearing in LA. Beta players noticed it first but that was Live beta.
I wish we could go in 🥲
I could be mistaking LA with live Beta forgive me, I don't remember who I heard this from 😅
Based on the lore of sky
Do you think its possible to have a season about machines like in journey?
Maybe not like Journey but I would be very interested to see more of the technology the ancestors had thanks to power diamonds. We see some of it with the flying boats and the orreys and and the gates, implied with the memory cubes we can’t read, but I’m sure they were capable of more.
That is a potential season
Imagine seeing something like this in sky haha
Krill: am I a joke to you?
But more scarier
tbh krill are scarier. The guardians are machines, but krill seem... wild
i think the prairie shrine was originally going to be used as part of a feature but didn’t get implemented quite yet, so the statues just. sitting in live
The rock giant in office
I wanna know its lore
Yeah. Machines have programming. At least they’re predictable, in a way. But as you said, Krill are wild animals. Lore wise, they could change in an instant and do who knows what.
Like, in game they follow a specific path, and since they're technically 'machines' since they're video game monsters, we don't have to worry. But in universe our kids are probably worrying the Krill is just gonna decide to look to the left suddenly, or change their prowling path on a dime. The lore makes krills extra scary
I'm not 100 percent but unless there's a funny story behind, it's similar to oreo, just an Easter egg
An extra huh
Haha
OH MY JAR I ACCIDENTALLY POSTED SOMETHING IN SKY MEMES AND PANICKED A SHORT WHILE WHILE DELETING IT!!!!!!
Anyways, I just realized that these are red buds.
If you see that they’re called saplings, thats probably because (even during their first visit last year) they are typically small, not fully grown, until they are a daily quest.
Fun fact, there is a massive red bud outside my house. And what I mean by massive is its 2 times the size of a regular sized red bud. The sky red buds are regular sized by the way.
The funny thing about red buds is that they arent actually red, they’re more of a purple or magenta. I’d love to have a red bud cape.
I would probably be a sky botonist or something if there were any plants to talk about. Instead we’ve got glowing spheres, giant jelly fungus and kelp, generic grass, and already dead trees. The flowers in the 8 player secret area don’t actually count as that is instead a reference to Flower, another game by tgc.
I see the bobbit worms have returned.
So that was in Wasteland?
Interesting.
oo, and that would also be pre-vault, bc we can see the outside of vault from above the wasteland temple and it is incomprehensibly large
Is this correct Sky kids? :o?
Just double checking!!
king is Resh and Sky Prince is Alef
Thank you so much!
Fun fact, Megabird is also known as the Bird of Light
those aren't necessarily their canon names. The Elders (and king/prince) have names based off Hebrew letters from concept development (hence that reference to Tom Zhao) that are no longer canon, though the fandom sometimes refers to them as such:
Isle – Daleth (ד)
Prairie – Ayin (ע)
Forest – Teth (ט)
Valley – Samekh (ס) (they share a name, though the fandom refers to
as Sah and
as Mekh)
Wasteland – Tsadi (צ)
Vault – Lamed (ל)
Prince – Alef (א)
King – Resh (ר)
It seems the devs refer to the Elders by the times of day their realms represent that's based on a timeline you can find in the Office:
Isle – Dawn
Prairie – Day or Daylight
Forest – Rain
Valley – Sunset
Wasteland – Dusk
Vault – Night
I see! Thank you so much
So here’s something I’ve noticed: in the murals seen in the vault elder cutscene, the constellation that runs along the vault elder looks extremely similar to the isle constellation
oh?
the vault mural in that cutscene is also kind of odd compared to the rest of them, the first thing that appears is the constellations as we see them appear throughout vault, and then the full mural appears. In all of the other murals, that initial constellation goes dark and is replaced by one made of stars when the mural appears (which is kind of frustrating bc they usually don't perfectly line up and you can still partially see the darkened version) BUT in vault, the kind of sharp looking version stays illuminated
SPADE, YOUR MIND ??? HELLO ???
So this further links the Isle to the Vault, the beginning to the end, daybreak and nightfall...
also could link to why the isle temple displays all of the constellations instead of its own.
Vault does not show its constellation being restored (as far as I recall), but instead goes right to the constellation UI with the spirits.
It kinda helps tie all of the 6 realms together (dawn included) and place Eden aside.
Especially with Eden not having a constellation shown in the realm, except for a similar looking one in home, where skykids can access Eden (if they dont want to run through Vault that is).
I wonder if anything's going to change with the introduction of the new friendship constellations in 0.17.0... probably not, but the connection between the Eden constellation and the favorite friends constellation won't be around anymore
Isn't the king apart of the favorite friend constellation?
I think Spade meant that the constellation we see at the end of the Vault cutscene is the Eden one, which is the same as the favorites constellation we currently have.
With the update, this link won't be here anymore.
not to mention the 0.17.0 friendship constellations are based off of real, actual constellations, so I don't see them updating the eden constellation bc that would make cassiopeia canon to sky and have all sorts of weird implications
How so?
Guess it’s the idea that Sky takes place in the same universe as irl which is odd given its fantasy and there’s a lot going on so.
Also our irl constellations are only visible from Earth due to perspective
I don't necessarily think having things from irl in sky has to imply we share a universe. But this is lore chat so who cares about taking fantasy with a grain of salt /lh 
Yea but yknow there’s someone who’s gonna be all “Sky takes place on Earth❗❗
In concepts it did though didn't it? In some kind of afterlife connected to earth
In concepts Sky was an afterlife of the “human world” not necessarily Earth tho. Granted it could’ve been a like-Earth human world cos there are cities.
^ So having cassiopeia doesn't necessarily mean sky happens in our universe, if 'human world' doesn't mean 'earth'
It'd be kinda funny if the Cassiopeia of sky was just a double from sky's prospective, and if seen on earth it'd look wildly different
Like-Earth isn’t Earth, just similar when it comes to human civilization.
This gets into some weird writer stuff my brain isn’t capable of translating into words.
Totally fair, I think I'm having trouble too
I agree that it wouldn't definitively mean that sky takes place on earth, but it would definitely muddy the metaphorical lore water, and not in a good fun way
We really need some canon before we think sky is imploding in on itself from plot holes 
can't have plot holes if you leave the plot vague enough
I would say the Sky world isn’t a like-Earth scenario due to the number of fantasy elements and very unworldly things that happen there. Also the thematic parallels Sky brings about environmentalism and greed and climate change, considering the grand worldwide destruction the ancestors caused and a next generation left to clean up the mess, works in a way because it isn’t directly talking about our irl human Earth but thematically is
I don't think sky is a like-earth scenario either. If we do exist in the same universe, I'm fully on the 'they're definitely aliens' train. But as it stands, I don't think earth and humans exists in their universe at all. Total separation
This is because the paint has already faded, seeing as to how this was built and painted even before the wasteland was ruined and power diamonds were.discovered.
new paint job most likely lines up with the Reshification of wasteland, i’ve always thought this resh head used to be on top of that spire thingie, and we can see that the statues atop the temple weren’t originally there
Yeah, especially considering that there are several things that pretty much break the laws of physics in the game, unless it’s some super advanced technology we can barely comprehend.
There's concept art of Sky where the human world is involved
Just because Cassiopeia is in the constellations doesn’t mean anything. It could be an arrangement of stars that just happens to look like Cassiopeia
I wish I was a Skykid 
Yea this concept art
I highly doubt that Cassiopeia is gonna be the only friend constellation from the real world we see
From Zhao’s timeline
They boyifeid it
|| BY THAT I MEAN I HEARD THAT IT REPRESENTS A QUEEN OK??? TGC MADE IT A BOY BY MAKING IT REPRESENT THE KING RESH||
At the end of the day, sky is a game made by humans. We can only go outside the realm of humanity so much before we just can't comprehend anything else.
That could just be one of the spikes atop the walls. Or some form of other rubble. Not likely to be A resh head seeing as to how all the other resh statues are built with far more detail to the head. And even then, all the rubble is nearly unrecognizable so there really isn't anything we could say. I also don't see any evidence of a refurbishment at all. The only design left was probably carved into the stone. Cloth decomposes fast, and from the spirit memory that we relive there, it seems it was used as a lookout post after its destruction. Now who's to say it wasn't at least reutilized during the supposed war. But in the end, the remains and this art line up one-to-one, and I doubt the building was important enough to receive a resh statue on top, or wasn't worth the hassle since it was already built beforehand.
Now you can stop being completely confused by me
|| I hate that people leave behind
‘s and it bothers me to death ||
No one in Sky has gender. Genderless characters can still use terms that are traditionally gendered but they themselves remain agender.
UMMM I’m a BIT mad
with everything
Yeah, 'king' in this case just means they were the 'ruler', not that they were a guy. You'll find us the community gendering spirits and stuff by our own biases, and that's totally okay, but canonically gender just isn't in the equation at all
why? that's literally the truth 
True
As a non-binary/genderqueer lad, I rather like it
It's one of the few things we actually know
So long as no one tries to stop me from calling Forest Mama that I don't care
To prevent this confusion from spreading any further like termites or silverfish I shall refer to resh as with Resh or The Monarch.
||wait am I allowed to do that||
IM MAD CUZ SOMEONE ADDED A ❔TO MY MESSAGE AND I GET BOTHERED TO DEATH CUZ ITS ANNOYING ME AND DIDN’T REMOVE IT
Even still, it could just be a coincidence that the stars are the same for both worlds
Technically Resh isn't canon either
❔just means they’re confused by what you mean, encouraging you to explain & clarify
True. The titles are gender based (ex. King, Girl, grandfather, granny etc.)
Though not every spirit has a set gender, or identity.
Thid not only give the spirits flexibility and be inclusive and supportive of the player's interpretations.
Yes, but people still refer to them like that.
An Eden Elder is clearly shown in the Vault cutscene?
yeah that was me, hello (I had no clue what boyified meant)
The name Resh
@nimble ingot technically spirits like granny are 'the belongings guide'. So they're not gendered either
Reasonable, but if you have to explain things way too much it gets annoying. Especially with the same thing.
While the king can no longer be saved. They are still in the lore of Sky.
The name Resh isn't canon. The king is canon, but the name is not
But that’s not happening here
Sorry I get mad a rrly smmmmmaaaal details like moth pants being at the knee but no one cares and makes it like s h o r t in their art , but I don’t care anymore
Are default pants at the knee?
I'm very sorry if this annoys you, but I was wondering if you could show me a picture of what you're talking about so I could understand it better. (With the moth pants, that is)
One thing I did notice, coincidence?
I'm not sure if the elders are still weird ancestors. They might be fallen stars like us now
That brings back my theory of the material used for power diamonds being able to hold or trap light inside of them.
There's something about that in the time line too
which elders are depicted here? I can only make out beta ayin and the prince
valley elders are to the left of the prince
The Elders’ designs changed a lot
Thats it, its been confirmed
Im just a frogging prophet and and future seer.
We gotta take concept stuff with a grain of salt
If I recall, prairie, forest, valley, and wasteland get lights, vault and Isle are left as Shepherds
which means eden is also lightless
Yes, but if it lines up so closely with what we can see in game and with theories we make with only those things we see in game, then there is a far higher likelihood that its true.
Also, do you think this is the "child if light", or is that a different entity?
I'm aware. I was just shooting that out before we got too ahead of ourselves
Yeah, I'm not looking for "Canon", just theories
if you wanted to connect this to the game, we do see the eden elder with this weird orb thing
the king is also the only one in these murals who is alone
I hadn't noticed that, but very good point!
aren't there tiny worshipful ancestors below that?
Do not say that I was forcing you to change your art style I’m NOT btw
everyone’s art is beautiful
Amelie we meant an in game picture
I traced
There's this concept art of Resh or "the king" that has the child and the child on the giant king entity. The child's is completely colored with off-white and has a mask and a sort of parka esc thing on. I theorize the king was completely or mostly composed of light, and if the king was always just sat atop a big platform and not moving themself, then the light consuming parasite that is the darkness would find this motherload of food and easily be able to consume it.
my screenshot got cut off, ty for mentioning that!
On that, Eden seems to be above the Vault, who, in concept art, seems to gather the memories of ancestors that passed by here to ascend; perhaps Eden is particularly hit because of that ? Maybe the King is trying to consume memories to mimic Megabird ?
This one?
Your mention of Resh being made entirely of light makes me wonder if he looked something like a Winged at times, since we see him in the cave of prophecies on the wall all golden and glowing and stuff.
very nice topic btw, chat
We have pleased our lord and savior
Just a small child glowing very intensely
Success! Lorechat is finally completed
lorechat speedrun any %
here, upper left picture, vault as a place that collects the memories of those that will depart
Here you go… I hope I don’t get filtered
A few years is the current record. Can we do it in a year and a half? 
Lorechat is never satisfied with <100%
We must go deeper
!HowDeepFam?
Any second now sky bot will chime in with a “Look fam, it’s not that deep”
Until our shovels break.
deeper than this fam
Until we come out of the other side of the planet
Is this Animal Crossing?
Lol, Sky Animal crossing. the ancestors are the villagers and the elders run the shops
And we come face to face with the protagonist of Journey.
How dare you
Traitor

Skybot has become sentient and is taking over accounts! 
🕵️♂️
Credit: Vela
"The Reshification of Wasteland" gold
How would you even attempt it 
HEY I WANTED TO HAVE FUN
Well first you have to bait out a wall chibi with a lovely slope-
Go back in time to when Sky was first released and see how fast we can figure it all out.
Throw a newbie into lorechat and coach them
Ohhh I can do that ** aggressively searches up Sky light awaits on YouTube **
Adopt all the lore moths 
OMG the pressure, I can hear the clock ticking in their heads
At least it would be easier than explaining the story of a JRPG
There is no one more confused in the entire Sky server than a lore moth entering Lorechat while we’re in the middle of discussing…something not related to lore, to put it politely.
Lol what is a JRPG
Ah yes, the crack lore
Lore moth: hey I wanna learn about lore—
Lorechat: snuggling wooly mantas
Japanese role playing game, notorious for their convoluted plots, such as final fantasy, kingdom hearts etc
I wouldn’t be complaining if I saw that first. 
Ah ssooo many twists and turns not even earth prophet can handle it
Why is it wooly? why is it eating popcorn? Why is it so floofy? I came here for answers now I just have more questions
Welcome to lore 
“Came here for answers now I just have more questions” is just Lorechat even when we’re discussing actual lore.
It's the perfect introduction
Answers are like unicorns
You have to combine a horse with a narwhal?
Wanna see SCARY emojis? Ok? O K! ||
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ok before I forget for the 20th time, I outlined the larger constellations seen in the vault elder cutscene to make them really easy to see
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE KING
I found it, and seems I remembered it wrong, my brain got the parka color and the body color mixed up. So throwing out that they were mostly made of light. But they probably die still have light, so the sitting suck for parasites theory is still a bit of an option.
Just clarifying that its pure speculation, I don't have as strong feelings for this one being true as I do for other theories.
I NEVER NOTICED THE FRIEND CONSTELLATION CROWN IN THE EDEN PHOTO IM SO. ODHFJDJFHFDJ 
TYSM FOR THIS
Have some more stuff!||
it’s ya boi or girLe||
Eden is also the only one whose elder doesnt have stars but listen to me... what if the elder IS the whole castle we see there, now, since it DOES have a constellation
ok, moth pants. Here is a picture of moth pants and two of pants without super big shirts to show the difference. All the default outfits that arent dresses have SUPER big shirts basically.
Is it even a long shirt or is it a 3rd piece that's more like a one shoulder vest
Intact version of Valley gateway from past TGC post
FIREWORKS
Is that from the end of winter/rythm ?
Light awaits?
Looks like it by the cape design
AVIARYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!
Look at that cape! It’s beautiful.
And for some reason, too much for phones.
That “Sky at 100 percent strength” joke we talked about a while back wasn’t a joke, sadly. 
I wonder how much detailing is actually on the ancestors clothes and we don't get to see it because it'd junk a phone. Has the idea of detailing just been completely tossed canonically because of this, or would our capes look like this still?
Sorry, its not a shirt, its probably a tunic or something since it wraps around to create a shirt.
The cape becomes more and more detailed as you do more Edens
so no fake moths
Only buff moth
Most likely, yes. Just look at what the Boat in abyss used to look like. Used to have an actual cabin thing and all that, but now it’s just completely open. So detailing and leaving tons of detailed stuff out is definitely a cause.
the abyss boat was also changed to be more in line with the style of boats we already see in the game
-stares at animation- If they add more detailing I get my answer
Yeah... Sky boats always look better in theory
Tara’s Beta Sky vid when she sees the old view of the background behind the colosseum… wow! It looks like concept art with more buildings up in the clouds
@tranquil harbor wait, nope you’re right. Its a third piece. I can’t remember what its called but its a picture commonly used in depictions of ancient greeks.
https://youtu.be/YdSmsjNGICA start at 6 minutes
Toga
YES!!!
Toga for anyone who isn’t aware of what they’re talking about:
The real question is, did they do toga yoga./j
I know I've seen it before, but I still love the scoreboard and the banners changing color
what is that
who is this
I'm in sky and I don't know what to do, is there anything anyone wants me to investigate?
@compact shale its not meant to make sense, the two words just rhymed.
I think it’s Emperor Tiberius.
oh ok
I haven't visited some isle murals in a long time, lets see if anything has changed with a new perspective on the lore.
the isle murals are so good... good food
Ew I bet they taste horrible
|| woah I got filtered
nah jk I’m not happy about it
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sobbing and crying... isle my beloved (/j /j I am /j on the crying bit, I live in isle)
isle my beloved /gen
Oh yeah EATS FIRE BOI MY BELOVED
What is this place for?
IN forest castle we don't have same room

That used to have a cosmetic you could buy in light awaits.
which cosmetic?
- casually roleplays light awaits *
to bring up another isle - vault/eden connection, there’s this carving that appears above the door into the isle temple and several times over doors in eden (eden images are from salem’s mural doc, tysm salem I never would’ve seen the eden ones on my own)
they also both have the boat shape underneath the figures, implying that the opened the same way and might’ve been completely identical doors. not sure about them being identical though, i don’t have full images of any of the doors
INTERESTING how in the last pic, you can tell where a boat much like the isle door was, perhaps this one was forced open and the boat removed ?
could be... I think this is the room right before you get to the first part of eden that has krills? Where you light the two fires? Maybe they stripped the old mechanism for power diamonds/resources in general and added the fire-based mechanism to make sure it still opened
I am still desperately trying to think of why there are two figures in the forest spot
ikr
theory in progress but what if eden was a devastated reminder of all the realms you crossed as well, it's still a headcanon rn but i love finding patterns
excuse the esoteric doodles, tried to represent each area
Dawn: from the beginning to the dawn gate
Day: used to be where eden started, from beyond dawn gate to the first pipe we go in
Rain: the whole mass of pipes we see from afar, with the 3 krills
Sunset: from the top of the pipes to the arch from which we see the final krill
Dusk: the final krill area (brutal)
Night: the whole tunnel thats a link to PNR
OOOOO
i just really like all the nods to the levels in the endgame, i bet there's something like that in the eden castle too since a lot of people pointed out the part where you slide through a tunnel reminds them of the sliding race
it kinda feels like, after a long life, holding onto everything you experienced and repeating them over and over to keep a simulacrum of integrity before you expire and it's all over.
Although the Vault seems to do that in a more meditative way, as if reflecting on one's life, and Eden would do it in a desperate attempt to keep holding on until the end.
Perhaps the ascent to orbit would be looking at that life one last time before letting it go and being on your way to start anew or join your ancestors...
since u mentioned the vault I think it's actually really interesting that the isle floor of vault is noted as such with all the sand everywhere and then the sad broken floor we see at the end also has the sand... we return to isle just in time to start another cycle as we go through eden
I have been thinking about a Headcanon that wasteland was, in order:
- thriving city, maybe grassland biome?
- flooded almost completely, leading to a super high water level. Graveyard and shipwreck areas would’ve been mostly underwater, probably as well as battlefield just due to how low it is to sea level. Other areas are less affected, but still covered in shallow water, with all buildings built on small low islands above the surface.
- water receded drastically later on again, and suddenly. Between this point and the original grassland, the graveyard had become part of the ocean, and this drastic shift killed many of the creatures inside, leaving their bones exposed.
There are some issues with it, esp because of the weirdness it implies with wasteland temple, but Hmm
But Isle was a beautiful grassland before the disaster
possible inconsequential observation but. notice how there are only free floating stars representing light creatures in the first two murals, and the rest are devoid of them, even with valley having many manta
we dont know how long before the disaster the switch trailer was, tbh
It does say centuries before the stars fell, so I would assume it was a pretty long time. Hey speaking of that would you guys like to hear my next idea? I am a bit scatter brained right now so I might have Trouble explaining it,
the sand was also definitely not there while the kingdom was alive... no one's gonna pile sand in their library, no matter the symbolism
But themed libraries sound cool
ok here is my idea. Okay so, what if the king didn’t spawn at the very beginning of kingdom lifespan, but AFTER the stars had fallen and that disaster is what they were supposed to save everyone from.,
Oh no I realized that I can’t talk about a good 20% of evidence for this theory because it’s beta. Nevar mind
awwwww :(
felt
THAT IS SUCH A MOOD I am begging tgc to release things in live
Some parts of it still hold up though. Like if you assume the kid in the stargazer memory is the king, then it’s weird that the stargazer travels over the same landscape that we did, implying it didn’t change that much (even though sand dunes shift places Offen) between our times. ushering stargazer taking place after desertification… more likely than U thin
salem I agree with you so much, maybe the isle intro murals could have been there when the king fell, maybe they were intented for them... u never know
maturing as a sky player is realizing that isle is actually the best realm. the devs had to nerf it by adding no daily quests so that the other realms could compete w it
isle fans out in full force tonight, win
WOOHOO TY FOR HSING MY DOC I GET SO HAPPY WHEN PPL USE IT
Prophecy is just Isle 2
isle is such a good realm! a lot of people say it's boring but they just don't have a good enough imagination 
weong. enchantment is isle 2, prophecy is isle 3, and thats why theyre best seasons
yeah!
lore lore lore
Prophecy came first on the timeline, so it’s isle 2
Isle enjoyers will feast during performance but that's all i'll say ;)
performance pspspspsps
what about it
I bet it won't have an edgy quest
what on earth does this mean /gen
this is where the evidence I can’t talk about comes from. I blame veal for it,
VEAL
VEAL
Flight had a dark 4th quest
Abyss had a dark 4th quest
Performance probably won't have that
What the heck food would I be
pennearcia (like penne pasta)
speaking as a beta tester, performance is a good season, I am excited
I am so excited to be adopted by performance guide -rubby hands-
so excited for performance, i wish jesters were real
I am so excited to recreate treesekai on the stage /hj
each season is really just our mission to be adopted by every seasonal guide we meet
Oh boy, do I have some good news for you
no way
so excited for performance… I wish theater kids were real…
if you or a loved one was impacted by performance beta secrets, I am very sorry to hear that and I hope I am not partially responsible (even though I probably am)
I am partially scared of what Performance will bring
I wanna know stuff tbh but Salem won't spill the beans
I'm scared for what shared memory candles will do, the spirits r real and my friends
im scared of the person i will become when they drop my favourite guys character card
I watched this video that went
"Hey this thing in Performance reminds me of the"
*blasts OYASUMI OYASUMI in the background
Legit it's making me anxious, I got hang ups about not knowin' stuff.
I'm not looking forward to shared memories. The boats already get in my way as a switch player
it will be fun :)
leaving my ghost behind so my friends can collect my lore
so true. everytime a character card gets dropped I transform into a werewolf and howl with glee before mauling everyone in sight
my ghost is too fast none of y'all will be able to catch my lore
IT LITERALLY WAS
why maul
I honestly don’t know much more than you. There are videos of current beta content that you can find on YouTube, though 💛
the ancestors DID know we were coming, if light await holds any grounds here...
Trying to be spoiler free when you get anxiety when you don't know stuff is the woooorst. I always cave before the final hurdle
it’s a fun way to exercise :-)
Thanks to Ash, I actually ate one and it was horrid 💀
maybe if we removed the pepper it would be ok
I vote we just eat the apples
It's probably fine if you get a sweet apple and only add a little.
proof
ash is too powerful
That looks like you dropped an apple in the dirt
PLS
Literally just use chaat masala to season apples- salt and pepper is way too basic
Ash: "Here is a tiny head canon of mine"
Us: "Lore? Ash is a merciful god who waters our crops and cures the plague upon our people"
(Nah but seriously it's really fun)
Ok, everybody remembers the very first set of murals we see in isle, right? And we all know that the reading that accompanies these doesnt make very much sense……
for the ancestors
But after a while of just being confused and trying to make sense of what it all means, a thought popped into my head, “…….the previous batch of sky kids-“ so I went through it all using those skids for context instead of the ancestors and it makes more sense to me. These sky kids were stars, and connected with everything, other stars, ancestors maybe, light creatures, mega bird, they lived in the sky infinitely and always shining. They called the sky their home and “As spirits, we soon became many” the ancestors and stars continued to grow in number. But then the darkness event began and these stars were sent down, (I’ll be adding in the context of their purpose here) they gave themselves up with their light in an attempt to save the kingdom. (Real quick, note how there isnt a comma between their light and we faded.) But now that a long time has passed by, the old stars sent new stars down to save their “spirits.”
This is in the perspective of the previous batch of sky kids, or in these murals, stars. The spirits were refferring to ancestors, they called them spirits because(assuming a sky kid wrote this once they fell or through the prophecies of the prophecy spirits) they’re already dead by the time we arrive. When they say”As spirits” they probablg mean just as ancestors or similar to or like ancestors. And when they say “retourn our spirits to the stars” the old sky kids are telling us to sheperd the ancestors now spirits. That or by spirits they’re refferring to themselves, seeing as to how the last mural has a winged light which is used only for sky kids.
Yeah this is probably the furthest I would go for the sake of silly sky lore so don’t worry abt me 💀
We're so starved for lore Ash's cute headcanons are like a meal
TGC feed us
my fave one is crab whisperer being only able to draw stick figures, because this means that someone asked them to try and i now want to know what they drew
isn't another that small animals make the uncomfortable lol?
Oh yeah I drew some stuff too
(Thank @lusty merlin for the comic idea, we mention the apples.. frequently 💀)
Lorechat is like water in a desert. It’s usually a tiny faucet we’re getting single drops out of, then it rains when a season arrives…and now we’re back to the faucet. 
“Oh Megabird they like it.”
This is really cute
I can just imagine them eating apples with some sky kids and the kids try some because they look up to the elders, only to freakin' stab the elders when the kids question their life choices that lead to them liking this
Kids can be brutal
I’m late to this yet again, but I just realized a few more interesting things.
- elders are depicted as people shaped constellations instead of singular stars
- we only ever save/see the constellations representing their tools, not themselves (if that makes sense) in game
- look at the yellow king constellation, there are five branches, representing every realm but isle isn’t that cool
Hey, this reminds me of h-
I mean
How do you expect us to act when we don't get much else
Ash is our Saint Paul
(rock rats belong to Lotus)
So does crab whisperer make an exception for crabs, or do they actually dislike crabs because they're hostile wasteland encounters
crab whisperer has to travel through wind paths at some point and starts sweating intensely when they see the tiny baby mantas. unfortunately, much like cats, the tiny mantas are attracted to whoever hates them most
Crabs aren't small enough maybe ?
Crab Whisperer: anything smaller than a crab is illegal and shouldn’t exist
Crab Whisperer: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Light Whisperer: Stop screaming at the babies, broken eardrums are birddamned hard to treat
crab whisperer should get real, because insects are dope
maybe isle gets left out of a lot of things because it used to be included in prairie... they both used to look very similar, and boats r daleths thing but the shipwright is in prairie, and honestly I just want to believe that everyone wasn't just leaving isle out of everything on purpose
crab whisperer in great distress as 13 different baby mantas mob them for pets
isle was supposed to be exiled but the prairie elder still kept contact with isle elder because they are not heartless
Crab Whisperer: Chimeyyyyyyyy~~~ can you make me a bell to get those baby mantas away? I'll pay whatever you waaaaaaaant~
Tinkering Chimesmith: O-of course... it might take long though... (understands the concept of unsafe sounds/textures)
isle spirits went to prairie to get trade from the rest of the kingdom to pass the ban on isle, hence the number of shipwrights in prairie
chimesmith decides one day that they are done with the law and begins to commit crimes by replacing all the Hey Light Creatures Come Here bells in and around refineries with LIGHT CREATURES GET AWAU FROM ME bells
ow... my emotions
WAIT THE POINTING CANDLEMAKER CUTSCENE
the spirits in isle could have been the most loyal to daleth, but there might have been a huge migration of isle spirits to prairie
the wind paths also open up to isle as well instead of ignoring it :-)
What if Crab Whisperer’s discomfort around small animals is more due to fearing they may hurt something so fragile?
oh ! kinda like me with really small mammals, they arent as sturdy as beetles
daleth's 4 figures... the isle spirits... I hold them very closely
that is what I was thinking but wasn’t sure how to phrase it. Also beetles, gods favorite children
especially if they keep a crab in their hat or something. the crab could go feral with all those baby mantas around and end up eating one
Granted we don’t know the timeline of Isle Elder getting exiled and whatever sanctions Isle faced before Eden boom
they are comfortable around crabs because they have a rock hard outer shell, so hurting them is almost impossible
thinking even more and that would actually explain why some of the isle murals show it as heavily populated... older murals
Crabs can throw themselves off a cliff and be fine. Can’t say the same for a rat
lore chat where is this isle elder exile coming from is it concept art is it just general theorizing I am going wild over here, I usually stick to in-game stuff bc it's easier to find
Sorry to be “that guy”, but it depends on the cliff. Rats are tough. They can fall over fifty feet and be just fine. 
Oooh that would explain the whole statement with ench spirits being from a “desolate land” when it’s obvious they’re from isle … almsot everyone left the barren desert for the fertile prairie and that’s how the whole ship culture spread there.
Also thinking about how a trade ban on desert isle would be almost a death sentence for them. As far as I know farming in deserts isn’t an impossibility, but prairie is heavily implied to be the agricultural realm, and both never having needed to farm before AND being in a desert would lead to… lots of food related struggles
Depending on the terminal velocity of the rat, the rat might be just fine
isle withered away... crying
I love how crab whisperers uncomfortableness around small animals isn’t interpreted as fear that they mighr hurt them but Outright RAGE at their existence
That is indeed it
Light Whisperer acts all smoochy-sappy around animals but is kind of done about ancestors and doesn't hesitate to talk smack about them
Basically the average quarantined-20-yr-old-with-pets
"you are too small... ILLEGAL" -crab whisperer, probably
based on this life philosophy how do they feel about us. how do we rate on the smallness legality scale
EDIT: OH MY GOD THIS IS WHY THEY BEAT US UP
chibis are on thin ____ ice
@white junco
prairie slipping isle some light to survive with
In part of Zhao’s timeline, there’s a note of “Ferryman Ancestor” — read: Dawn/Isle Elder — retiring during the height of darkstone tech. There’s a quip from a PowerPoint thing(?) that Isle Elder was disliked among the other Elders
what if this is why there are butterflies in isle despite it looking so devoid of other light creatures.,
prairie is probably where the candlemakers are getting their wax... thank u ayin
among
So off topic but I had a rando stare at me while I was "avoiding" fire trial level 3 and it was very awkward. Stop watching me while I'm breaking the law
trading candles because candlemaker is a really good craftsman, for that sweet sweet light
I was wrong about prairie elder releasing butterflies in vault to cheer it up. It was happening in isle this entire time
prairie elder is shaped like a friend
Prairie Elder used Isle as a test run for butterfly bombings
the little bit of grass the isle temple has is probably thanks to prairie
Prairie has enough butterflies to spread jou throughout all the realms
OMG imagine… prairie elder gifting isle bits of green light to keep it lush, staving off the desertification a bit longer
i headcanon scarecrow farmer is from the prairie so seeing them trying to grow things in a desert... the parralels
Scarecrow farmer give prairie vibes just from the goofiness of scaring away the birds like that
I headcanon all the ench spirits as being from isle, so… consider… they learned that from a prairie farmer that was sent to help teach them.
Alternatively they ARE that farmer and that’s why everyone else relies on them for food
Ok, so candle maker has 2 murals, both of which are a bit confusing. But after a bit of thinking, I have some possible answers, unfortunately I’m not very confident in them.
Ok so for the first mural, it shows 6 ancestors seemingly giving praise to 3 candles and maybe also the stars above. Part of this is probably just showing that they hold candles dearly in their culture, but the other part is iffy. I think the mural is trying to show some relation between the stars and the candles and maybe even the ancestors. It could be saying that the ancestors praised the stars and used candles in their culture because the flame looked like stars, it could also be in relation to the spirits of the time, because candles have relation to the souls of living things, especially sky kids though this isnt related to sky kids. But sonce skods are the stars or relate to them, the ancestors could too.
Now the next mural is of ancestors giving praise to the isle elder who is sitting on a cloud, with the stars above them and the isle temple behind them with 4 bouts headed over there. The complicated part of this is that I don’t know when this mural takes place. But it might be when isle elder was the only one, or at least the one in power. But either way, I’ll try to figure it out to the best of my ability. It could be the ancestors giving praise to the isle elder for being a sheperd to the light. I am the least confident in my theory for this mural.
HELLO POINTING CANDLEMAKER MURALS
And now for the last mural I wanted to visit, this one. Accidentally hit the wrong button but ok.
It shows that the isle elder was a sheperd for light creatures, not ancestors. Vault elder handled the ancestors. Don’t ask me why, because I don’t know why, its just how it was.
I love the isle murals so much oh my god can I maybe. toss my silly little hat into the ring. I think the first candlemaker mural is the lightseekers. But not stories about them like we see in enchantment, but predicting them. I think it has major parallels with the little boat with the lights in piggybacks memory. Pointing candlemaker is the only base game isle spirit that isn't confirmed to have been alive at the same time as piggyback lightseeker. what if
WAIT UOURE RIGHT HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THIS BEFORE
OUGH SPADE WITH THE GOOD TAKES
I always thought that the pointing candle maker was teaching what seems to be their partner and child about things. Though Spade made some damn good connections
Iirc due to spirit memories, we can figure out that refusing voyager & stargazer took place at the same time, as well as voyager & piggyback lightseeker, meaning 2/3 isle spirits probably lived at the same time as the Lightseekers. I can’t remember if candlemaker is able to be related back to them as well.
This was another piece of evidence for my theory about the king coming really late, that I straight up forgot earlier. Because if stargazer and voyager and the lightseeker were together, the stargazer found the king, and the Lightseekers were trying to find light in a rapidly darkening world, then…
Edit. I am stupid. Spade literally jsut said this
Since they came together this Days of Bloom, do you think Shushing Scholar and Piggyback Lightseeker are somehow linked ? They are both seen conducting some sort of ritual at the end of their memories, and the only spirit Piggyback interacts with in Forest is... Shush.
YEAH YOU GET IT
lightseekers i love you, you live in my brain rent free 💙
…do we see the candlemaker in any other spirit memories? The obvious conclusion is that they lived at the same time as the other isle spirits, but that might not be the case
Not me thinking too much about lightseekers since writing one into my fic
NO WE DONT IN FACT, THATS WHAT BUGS ME
like ??? every other isle spirit is linked together BUT that one
The lightseeker brain rot virus has infected another…
we do not, the only thing even close would be fire prophet's student with the same hair, but I really don't think that's the candlemaker for beta spoiler reasons but also general vibes
My funny headcanon about the Bloom ritual is that since 2 of them have allergies related to pollen (Piggyback and Laidback)
The praying is them praying for the tree to stop raining angry tree dust
The telekinesis is them pushing the angry tree dust back
The rest of them who aren't allergic are supportive friends :D
What about the prophecy spirits or the candle makers family. And the three things there have very similar looks to candles. That doesn't even look like a boat. And why are there six spirits if its about piggy back lightseekers memory? And what about the stars in the sky? In fact those are definitely candles since this is pointing candle makers memory.
||and why did everyone just instantly go with what you said without considering what I said?||
lol
Not even becoming a ghost-person will save you from allergies. 
the pollen is also in the spirit world
Given those are spirit trees, the pollen might be spirit pollen
ye
spirit pollen
Hey, if you’re gonna take the time to make a spirit tree, you may as well include every last bit.
angry tree dust 😡
Accurate. Source: has hayfever
Itchy eyes
Who would be allergic to the spirit pollen
Can skids be allergic to things?
i dont suffer from allergies, allergies suffer from me
maybe not
Two lightseekers apparently
we can sneeze!
i thought you could sneeze without being allergic
But we don’t have noses-
I kinda doubt it. Allergies are when the immune system reacts negatively to random stuff, and…this just calls into our biology, but if we don’t have a traditional immune system, we can’t have allergies. 
i want to give candlemaker soup
fake sneezing
So like someone said once, skykids are kind of like flutes/porcelin. and Sometimes flutes get dusty, maybe thats why we sneeze
I think this is the more likely answer. Just like we fake faint with the fainting emote and fake feeling cold with the cold emote. We sneeze, but at the same time, we’re just mimicking. Not actually doing it.
Maybe skykids could be allergic to darkness given that they’re beings of light? Say breathing in a darkness flakes makes them sneeze or walking in dark water makes them itchy?
I would also like to do that, we should team up to bring him even more soup
soup for candlemaker !!!!!!!!!!!
Ive had the theory that darkness plants makes you sleepy
What about the prophecy spirits or the candle makers family.
…What about the prophecy spirits? Spade pretty clearly said base game isle spirits, which would probably exclude the other spirits in candlemakers family as well [since we can’t relive them].
And the three things there have very similar looks to candles. That doesn't even look like a boat.
They do look more similar to candles, but it may not be an exact vision of that spirit memoru, but a general prediction of the Lightseekers. Maybe they get light from candles, or are happy when they find it there.
And why are there six spirits if its about piggy back lightseekers memory?
Again, this is not a prediction of that exact memoru, but a general one. Excluding the guide, who we don’t see interacting with the others in days of bloom, implying a degree of separation, there are 6 lightseekers.
And what about the stars in the sky? In fact those are definitely candles since this is pointing candle makers memory.
We still don’t know ALL the stars fell. There could be some left over; they appear in forgotten ark murals as well, which IMO is a bit weirder.
Saying those are definitely candles because this is candlemakers memory isn’t a great assumption; their visual resemblance is better evidence. There are candle making tools scattered around the spirit memory, which is what we would have learned they’re a candlemaker from.
and why did everyone just instantly go with what you said without considering what I said?
Because Spade’s idea makes a lot more sense [to me personally], and because last time I replied to one of your theories with counter evidence, it turned into an argument and the counter evidence was ignored. I’m too tired to have the same thing happen again.
haha you said that skykids breathe
pulling up to isle w a thermos full of soup for em
I’m thinking they don’t need to breathe but they can say as a coping mechanism to calm down. It’s not an automatic response.
and they eat it in the dead king posture
Ultimate Gift of the next Isle season is a thermos full of soup.
I guess Water Prophet's emote does that to us too
But if I ever make a skykid WITHOUT this knowledge, they will scream to calm down
Since no one's saying it "Good soup 👌"
Ok so this probably isn't true, but pointing candlemakers child looks like the skater from dreams. That is the only connection I could make. After all there is no other real connection beside the two look the same
they are members of the Ponytail Gang
migration /hj
they are also about the same height! I checked
assembly guide’s cloning gun strikes yet again
“Scream to calm down”. Imagine you’re a Skid going through some difficult times, you go to a meeting with people that are like you, and when you enter everyone’s just screaming their lungs out.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but this is making me feel very hurt. I shared my own theories about the murals and they were all nearly completely ignored except one where only one person said something and it wasn't even about my theories. And then somebody else stated one line about a vague mural and suddenly everyone is accepting it as fact and having actual conversation about it. I put in all this effort to share my opinions, only to be ignored and overshadowed.
Is it something to do with me, did I do something wrong? Do you guys feel as though I did something wrong? I know my theories didn't get missed because they were big and in the open, and chat had been stopped long enough to see them. People only reacted to my theory about the first murals, and somebody said something about another. I'm sorry if I did something wrong, I just wanted to share theories and ideas.
Why doesn't mine make sense, and why doesn't anybody say anything about that. Please just listen to me and ask questions if you need more to understand my thoughts. I just Wang to enjoy sharing my thoughts and theories. Please, I feel like I'm about to cry, and I hate having to acknowledge this because it just makes me feel guilty and terrible. And I worry everyone will think I'm trying to guilt trip them. And I hate having to do this, but I know that this shouldn't be happening. Somebody help me to explain things better, in a way that everybody can understand because I can't stand this mistreatment. But I know none of you would do this on purpose.
oh hey that’s me
I’m just too tired to engage with one of your theories and have what I described above with all the counterevidence being ignored happen again. I can’t speak for anyone else, but this is why I’m not responding to your theory posts at the moment.
Oh, and also - I just went back and reread the post I replied to again and saw something I missed.
”And then somebody else stated one line about a vague mural and suddenly everyone is accepting it as fact and having actual conversation about it.”
You can express your frustrations with lorechat’s attitude towards you without insulting someone else during it.
the lightseekers are so funky, what do you think is happening on the bottom left corner
opens Google drive
bestie is dying... oh no
It looks to me like a person sick in bed and they’re getting a cure of some kind.
crab whisperer MURDERS a man
light?? gone. stolen. vacuumed. goodbye.
NO !! !! /j
After all you’ve heard us say about Crab Whisperer, you can’t say you didn’t see this coming.
This is probably the darker option, but I interpreted it as gathering? someone’s light after they’ve died, given the top left and middle bottom images :( maybe to guide it back to one of the temples like we do with spirits?
yea, I've seen that one of two ways: using light to heal someone who's sick and bed or, as Salem said, gathering light from the freshly departed
wait hold up hold the phone those guys in the top right corner have capes that look kinda like the dreams skater
I'm sorry I didn't mean to. I didn't intend to do that. Please just stop being angry with me I never wanted it to be like this, I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry.
Am I taking this too far?
They've probably done both, the question is which one is happening in that picture
OH SHOOT YOU'RE RIGHT
PERFORMERS
NO WAIT YEAH THEY DO
lightseekers with a side gig. just cos you're mystic light gatherers doesn't mean you can give up your passion for the arts
concept crab whisperer also had a larger collar like this too tbh
is it just me or like
r spirits w like bird themes or something always some sorta performer or entertainer or related to that sorta thing
looks at. Dreams n rhythm spirits w bird themed stuff
YEAH I POINTED IT OUT LATE LAST YEAR BUT YEAH
Hi so, off topic and this can be brough up later. but why is exhausted dock worker in piggybacks memories
do you mean rejecting voyager?
does bird mean funky performer then like
OH SNAP
i remember looking into the whole animal n role thing a bit ago but was going into specific animals n stuff and looking at this w like
a broader category now w the kind of animal thing (bird) is 👁️👁️
I’m going to honest… I’m not really angry with you, I’m just tired. It’s the point of frustration where I’ve just given up, and for some reason I can’t articulate, the over the top apology is just pushing me further towards that exhaustion.
I feel a bit like I’m interacting with a much younger version of myself, which is what makes it hard to be angry, but doesn’t really affect my frustration at all. Sorry if I’m being too harsh here, I’m just… done.
HEHE THIS WAS SUPER CUTE
Ohhhh yeah, I saw them and my first connection what exhausted dock worker cause of the similar blue head things.
That was a conversation I was here for and I was being dumb
Ancestor version of a turtleneck sweater
omg,,,, ur mind,,,,,,,,,,,
I'm sorry, and its ok. I shouldn't have replied, it wasn't a great time for you.
s'ok! rejecting voyager seems to be there helping piggyback with something related to the light. My guess is that maybe they found the altar boat thing first, or they just arrived first, as they only appear in the memories once you get into the actual cave after the tunnel. Based on their own memories, voyager seems to hold a lot of respect for daleth, and ergo the light, which is probably why they're there in the first place
It is a great time though. I feel fine. I am happy. It’s not me feeling bad or sick that’s contributing to the frustration, but a slow buildup of frustrating experiences coming to a head.
For the time being, I’m going to block you - not because I’m mad with you, but because I just think it’s the best option for both of us, so that we don’t have to interact.
Understqndable
I'll back you up on this Salem. Esther, there really isn't anything we can be mad about that you do. But it's just exhausting. Being over the top and some what attention seeking is off putting. Asking people to look at your stuff just isn't something we do here. It makes people not want to interact with you or ignore you because you try everything you can to lead the conversation towards you. I'm sorry if this isn't the nicest but some things just need to be said. I don't want this conversation to drag on any longer
dug this up bc i headcanon that while their memories may not depict their last moments, the place we find the ancestors in might be their final resting place.
And maybe... Voyager dragged themselves to that mural so close to the temple...
i also headcanon they might have been ill because of what happens in the piggyback memory
Thank you for the support, I really appreciate it 💛
light whisperer thougg
Look at how their sitting! That (coming from a dancer) is a dancer sitting position
Dark Plants!
They make you
-ill
-sleepy
- maybe drunk
oh?
And it’s a guessing game which it’ll make you. What fun. 
yeah, it IS weird that darkness plants sprout from them in 2/3 times they’re shown in spirit memories. It would be cool if darkness plant corruption, controlled but not reversed by light, was like an ancestor version of a chronic illness.
I love me some happy endings but I'd really like to see some darker themes in seasons. It would give a lot of answers
Maybe that’s why they’re tagging along with the Lightseekers - as an attempt to find treatment for their illness. Their uncorrupted appearance in the stargazer memory would either be before they got sick, or after they were with the Lightseekers and found something that would help control (but not entirely get rid of) their illness.
I was running fire trial earlier and I had some good views and outline of the smoke creatures I should've taken pictures and showed everyone (they look very fuzzy)
To clear up the confusion:
Most spirits with bird masks = performers
Flight spirits with bird themed stuff = they just really like birds
thats why the flight spirits don't wear masks
they're not performers they're caretakers
It would have to be delivered very subtly. Obviously, the lore behind Sky is decently dark, but it’s still a kids game, so if we do get darker themes it wouldn’t be too much of it, sadly. Although considering what happened with Fire Trial and the last quest of Abyss…I guess it just depends on how far the devs think they can go. But point is, darker themes would likely be hints, not full blown in our faces. (Maybe. Probably. I don’t know where I’m even going with this.
)
I've been pondering with the idea of ancestors could be infected with darkness, say by getting darkness flakes or polluted water in open wounds that could be as small as a scratch, allowing darkness to leech off of them. it travels through their physical body like a blood infection. if it reaches their inner light, the darkness is irreversible and can sprout into plants, ultimately killing them.
salem wdym by 2/3
what’s the second one
No no I get what you mean. But have you read some old fairy tales???? Super dark. Gravity falls???? Trippy and pretty dark at some times. I think the kids could handle themes of death and destruction but not necessarily gore and all that cool adult stuff lol
Imagining their bird themed stuff causing confusion, and someone interrogating them like “oh you’re a performer? What kind of stuff do you do? Are you into music?” And the flight spirit sitting there like Uhhhh…. I can’t even hum things on key
ushering stargazer, they’re the person the stargazer is ushering over. Drawings of them are also present in prophecy murals, I believe — let me check
Yeah, they probably can't show characters truly dying, which is why the 5th quest ended like it did
My headcanon is that the Abyss Quests are set in the crew's memories and we make them think Cannoneer didn't die there
Gravity Falls was a good time. And yeah, about those old fairy tales, no kidding.
If fairy tale movies were made accurate to the original version, I don’t think there’s a single one that wouldn’t get an R rating.
here they are :-) waving goodbye to the king otw to the trials. They’re the one who looks like they have horns, bc of their mask
I agree with the prophecy mural thing, i think the figure standing directly next to daleth is voyager. i don’t quite remember though, do the darkness plants in their cave sprout during their memories, or are they just there?
edit: oh hey, a prophecy mural. oh wait we see this one differently, cool!
You guys are such archeologist looking at cave paintings and figuring out what it means. Me . . . Yeah I really hated that one archeology class I took, super boring. But that's your thing and I have my own
It’s ALSO a double verification thing for the kid in the stargwzerre memory being the king, further proving my theory about the king being born late and — [my mic is cut before I can complete a 10 paragraph ramble]
It’s ok! I can only barely read murals. The ones I can read are the abyss ones so we’re in the same boat
my dream job is an archaeologist, I feel like I’d be great at it and it seems so interesting… but everything I’ve heard has been like Do not try to become one, your chances of getting a job are extremely low :(
Salem lore!
Yeah, same. The murals are simple in design, but actually deciphering their meaning is another thing altogether. I’m sure that there’s even a few out there we’ve gotten wrong and are assuming they’re something else. We’re all avoiding murals in that boat.
Lots of dirty work and charting. But definitely has different career paths and lifestyles you can pick to better suit you. You can go work for university and look over artifacts or you can basically be a nomad and travel from work sites digging in the field. Never say never!
It took me several months to realize that was voyager do not worry. I am also not very observant, I just went OOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH
i know this isnt lore but i want to emotionally hit this chat with: voyager reuniting with daleth and being so glad they didnt vanish, daleth may feel lonely but they are so beloved by their spirits
my views of this specific prophecy mural r based heavily on this reoccurring depiction of daleth alongside 4 other spirits, which I believe to be the 3 base game isle spirits + the other candlemaker. they show up everywhere. This is what i mean whenever i say daleths 4 figures. I’m not sure if the 4 bearing light on boats are the same figures, will have to keep working on that one.
I like this mural a lot bc, in my mind, it also confirms that those 4 figures aren’t the prophets, which is what I ALWAYS get when I first bring this up
adding Rejecting Voyager to the deserves a hug list
RELATABLE i’m looking at potentially studying anthropology, societies throughout history r so cool
OH I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN. THESE GUYS
not going to lie, I originally thought that the fourth spirit was meant to be Dawn, depicted as a “normal” spirit because they didn’t want to seem above the spirits in their realm, but this mural would make that super weird
Vela i just wanted to see whenever I see ur doodles in lore chat they either make me happy, laugh or be sad depending on the context so thank you for these ;-;
us. credit to alasdair for this image
I try to create a theory by smashing together real world science with sky then I just run into a brick wall with it because "that's ain't it because sky mAgIc". And then a paragraph of incoherent rambling and someone like theoriginal and others is like "yeah no I get it" thanks bros
*fuzzy manta^
Ah yeah I hate when my theory falls apart when I try making a new one , you can miss one detail and it shatters
Okay so you know the general trope of gods’ power depending on how much their followers believe in them? What if the elders are somewhat like that, and that’s why isle looks so much weaker than the others before we restore their light
Oo I really like that idea (explains why valley might be the capital)
Their power overflowed so they had to separate into two…
“To much support” -mitosis activates-
THIS MURAL OMG... I did not know it existed until recently bc I was looking at the wrong pillars during stargazers memories, ty
it’s like the opposite of my idea about them separating as a last resort measure to stop darkness corruption / separating Because of the corruption
I like where this is going
But I also think another thing good go with it
Say you were in the valley working with boats, and transportation then you wouldn’t worship the twin you would worship Daleth
You don’t have to worship the elder that is prominent in your realm. The only elder that I guess would be worshipped everywhere would be the the king
OH THATS SUCH A COOL IDEA.
imagining prairie banning manta transportation in their realm so that people have to build boats to get around instead and help their friend stay alive,
Going back to this,in the switch trailer we basically see isle as a grassland market place, but it’s just a barren desert
Wonder what Daleth did to make almost everyone stop believing in them 
Edit: maybe they made an awful dad joke—
It’s mentioned that Daleth wasn’t real respected by the other Elders near the end, so maybe some of those feelings spread to the people.
daleth was spotted in his cyan crocs and he never lived it down
they were involved in the Sour Candy Incident
Oo I never heard of this, are you cool with explaining it more?
what was that?
Maybe they didn’t share those candies that every grandparent has if you know what I’m talking about, ones with the berry wrappers
The sour candy incident is like the high-five incident. It’s better left unexplained, so that others don’t have to secondhandedly experience the tragedy
started showing everyone the kings embarrassing baby photos
:”ay high five!”
:”High five!”
-one photo taken seconds before disaster-
Like the Pony Club incident. I fear for the therapists after that incident.
Oh
It's the hi-5 ||that obliterated their arms||
in all seriousness, isle might have started wilting once daleth was exiled, and seeing the land fall apart like that led to more people losing faith, which made the land die faster, and you can see how that might spiral out of control
Oo This is my first time hearing about Daleth being exiled
was this confirmed or hinted at ingame?
YEAH! Maybe isle was once prosperous, but after a certain point depended on outside help to not wilt away, and then after the exile, it started falling apart
in all honesty this is my first time hearing about it too but I am so on board
Y'know what, I need to stand up for myself here. This isn't right @amber creek. I've hardly complained about anything here, I just state my own theories and opinions, and have done the best I can to make people not have to feel the way I do. I've been as respectful as I can possibly be. But apparently that still means I'm a gaslighting, attention seeking brat?! I JUST WANTED TO FIND A SOLUTION TO THE FEELING OF BEING IGNORED FOR NO REASON, THE FEELING NOBODY CARED FOR WHAT I HAD TO SAY!!!! I HATE HAVING TO GET INTO CONFLICT WHEN IM TRYING TO STATE AN OPINION THAT CONFLICTS WITH ANOTHERS!!!! And I KNOW I'm not perfect. I have things I need to work on, being open minded, not upsetting others, not being overly pushy. But this, THIS!!!! THIS ISN'T HELPING ANYTHING!!! I wanted to say something sooner but I didn't want to annoy or bother anyone about this anymore. And I don't want people to feel guilty for me, or bad for me. So go ahead, hate me, but you could at least respect me as a person. What you said made me feel like a terrible, awful person, it hurt me. But I know that isn't true.
Though, I doubt you care about that anyways.
And please don't feel bad for any of that, only learn from the mistake you made, and don't do it again.
||this probably didn't even make sense, but unfortunately that's just how my thought process works.||
I like to think the elders weren't limited to their realm, it's just that their realm is where they were worshipped the most or a place they had a close relationship with.
You could be a shipwright saying a prayer to the dawn elder before working on a boat in prairie, or whispering an incantation to the night elder as you look through some archives in forest.
Their temples could be their main hub, and their position in a linear path through the kingdom may be so pilgrims wishing to ascend may visit each shrine for a ritual to do so, tracing the path we winged travellers shall take in the far future.
[student in valley trying to write a several page academic essay] Vault Elder give me strength
relatable
What I do know if the elders were “gods” of certain thinks Vault elder would obviously be a god of knowledge
Wasteland a god of war maybe?
Oh and forest as a god of blacksmith if their hammer and lil anvil and building a diamond wasn’t enough
They’re something Between gods and normal ancestors imo; I feel like each one would have a lot of different associations
Definitely, my brain juice isn’t kicking in so this is all I could come up with
Demigods
Oo yeah that fits a lot better
Valley are like muses of the arts and entertainers
Would ancestors use insults? Either in a joking manner or y’know insulting
Something like this
“Oi! Mantabrain”
Idk, I like seeing if I can create connections between ancestor society and ours
Absolutely. They totally had roast sessions by the fires
You're telling me the elders didn't make fun of each other either???? Isle got ripped on for being an old man (by the twins definitely) twins were made fun of for being theater kids, vault got made fun of for being short. All loving and in good fun tho
I am still waiting for a poet spirit to show up somewhere (probably valley)
They have like a fancy beret hat with like a big ol curled feather
the valley elders were jocks and theater kids rolled into one
we've already had a season full of french people, I think we're good
WHEEZES
As a theatre kid this may or may not be true
I have never laughed so hard about something on this server omg
VELA
But I was getting more Shakespeare vibes from the poet character so that would be British . . . Which is just as bad so /j
awful horrible hell theory the king is British and that’s why he went evil and goofy
Aren't the crabs british
NO. slander
they are! confirmed that the british r dark creatures
THE DARK CREATURES ARE WHAT
"oi mate! Wut you doin in ar wasteland bruv! Get lost then!!!"
Crab whisperer’s honk is jsut the in universe version of a bad British accent
NO.
oh my god
just like the british, they go for the shins
Spade you are absolutely killing me tonight 😂😂😂
Salem I am coming to your house at an ALARMING PACE
for some reason your immediate knee jerk rage response is funnier to me then my original post. tears are running down my face
hey does anyone have a pic of crab whisperer i need it for science and not evil
krill whipping its head around to stare at a skid: oi oi oi whats all this then?????
you don’t have to you are already killing my sides
I AM NOT RAGING
Are krill welsh
Vela hates me because they know I’m telling the truth
all I have is crab whisperer next to a dead body is that ok
Hitting you like this
Crab Whisperer can't be british, they're brave.
BONK
It’s ok vela… it can be hard to learn your role models have done awful things (be british)
Can someone PLEASE edit the crabs with a British flag and a cup of tea and a top hat
Nothing I can say will ever top this tbh, GG, WP.
(crab whisperer is still not british tho)
reluctant hugs from both parties
I am glad you finally realized that I am the best person at stringing words together that has ever existed. And also the best person at finding our secret British people /j
Salem, I am canceling you
The season of British spirits/j
relevant meme
I'm a bisexual and I approve of this message
Love the fact that bisexual are coming together to beat the Brits
bisexuals 🤝 aroaces
attacking the british
that can’t be a real picture of crab whisperer. There isn’t tabasco sauce in their tea
The bell at Home space is replaced with Big Ben. 
No Eden is the Big Ben
for next april fools, everything will become british for one (1) day
In orbit you just hear god save the queen
pride flag edit
I hate you all /j
HELP
revenge
vela villain arc (velain)
Currently wheezing
The animated series comes out, the King appears out of the shadows, and then he speaks with the thickest British accent humanly possible that isn’t even understandable.
if resh is british im going to go absolutely feral and rabid
Thank you to all the bisexuals, aroaces, Americans, other former colonies, and mainland Europeans for coming to bully the British with us today. It's been fabulous
Except you because you're born in a pipe all alone with spaghetti.
you have no proof of this
Vela that was cryptic
And oddly specific.
I actually do, gimme a min.
i wish i had spaghetti
@white junco
I've had the HC of Crab Whisperer having a British accent since I saw Bloom beta spoilers
Now I imagine all of the lightseekers to have fancy accents ☕
I will 1000% be thinking about these British joke at inappropriate times tomorrow and trying my absolute hardest not to laugh at it
FORGED evidence. compare this to a real piece of photographic evidence [#lore-discussion-spoilers message] and you will see that velas has obviously been FAKED
Ok ok ok, who has French accent
every single little prince spirit
idk but someone else suggested Twirl
British crab whisperer is on par with my fanfiction in terms of things that will make me laugh at inappropriate times
Is that… is that the season of French people that was foretold #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Slink HACKS into velas computer and turns on their camera, revealing the TRUTH about their identity…
no way
I want a season of rednecks so bad it will feel just like I'm at a family reunion
We already have season of Abyss.
The snake from TLP hacks all your electronics
I'm flabbergasted but you right
How about this
I would cry.
And original Abyss.. they are not rednecks. I have a family of them.
Abyss aren’t rednecks
I feel like redneck is too bad of a title for any Sky spirit to be deserving of it
why is my brain telling me the gratitude spirits are rednecks,
*punches your tail
Facts tho. They are the fishing family not the illegal fireworks by a jet fueled bonfire type people
UNCALLED FOR
NO.
YOU ARE PUNCHING DOWN
TOO FAR
DELICIOUS
NO
Oh dear.
GO TO JAIL
sliding it closer
OMG?!
SOMEONE BAN KRII FROM THE SERVER
THEY ARE A SWEET FARM GIRL OUTWEST I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS SLANDER
KRII STOP
hey what if i was evil.
There is still time to redeem yourself from this path
The final season will be the Skids having to work together to stop the British from colonizing the land of Sky. 
Like if you think @fickle wing should go to jail.
hope this helps
I don’t know what you’re thinking but delete it from your mind immediately
krii I will confess to italian behavior if you stop
That's literally what we're doing by trying to stop the dark creatures
is italian a fancy accent
Confesss?!
👁️
ANGEL
immovable object (lesbian scarecrow) vs unstoppable force (British scarecrow)
devil's advocate: you can be British and a lesbian
So dark water is actually tea in disguise? Interesting.
Scarecrow can't be British, she's not a parasite
the overlap between skrunkly and british is zero, and scare is definitely a skrunkly, hope this helps
Scarecrow is from the Midwest therefore hates the British and is a home Depot lesbian
the only thing holding me back rn from committing a crime is not having a good pic of scarecrow ingame on hand atm
i couldnt find the opacity option on this app; it was the first one
very happy to spread my lesbian scarecrow agenda
Slink saves us yet AGAIN
wait wait wait google might have a pic hold on wait my crimes r still possible
krii no
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHGHEQWEPTHG
Someone put krii in time out PLEASE
As you can see, the powers of photo editing can be used for good and evil
Britain = island filled with trash
Sanctuary = island filled with trash
Make of this what you will
NO
The true test is if scare would say cookie or biscuit
OK WAIT HEY NO JELLY ISNT BRITISH
NO SANCTUARY SLANDER
The tables have tabled I see.
VIOLENCE IN THE LORE CHAT
Slander, Sanctuary has minimal trash
I am going on the offensive.
NO BRITISH SUNBATHER
“How the tables table…”
I came here for some lore content. Sanctuary being Britain is now canon for me. Ty
Oh, you're approaching me ?
Don’t fall for the Misinformation
Grump, based on their attitude might be British.
good. my work is done. Every time krii posts British scarecrow, I convince someone their favorite spirits are British
Sanctuary is sunny and pleasant literally the opposite of Britian
Welcome to Lorechat. Please enjoy your chaotic stay. 
I enjoy a good lore
Ok you’re right… Britain is always rainy. You know what other realm is constantly rainy? You know what realm the Lightseekers are f-
This is the only flag sanctuary is flying
ok but if there's one spirit who's 100% british it's this guy (image taken from performance announcement news)
The Forest is the most British realm, confirmed.
Slander, Forest Elder is not British
I have many words, none of which would get past the censor
I wonder if you could combine the lesbian and British flags
Forest = filled with trash
Britain = filled with trash
The similarities are shocking…
listen if any of the elders r british it’s isle
Look at what you made me do.
Y’all saying so and so place trash when Golden Wasteland is right here
Vault could be a posh little lady that likes tea
krii I thought you'd know daleth better than anyone but apparently not
Come on dude, they’re bullied enough already
The vault is German change my mind
hang on isnt the new bloom teaset an english teaset
SCREAMING
NO. absolutely not. I am cursing you rn
My grandma was Bavarian I have to firmly disagree
Hmmm… the evidence for British Lightseekers piles up
That's what you get for making Scarecrow british.
OK FINE scare ISNT british but crab call is
It was right in front of us the whole time.
i can work with that
people smarter than me have said they're indonesian and I trust them on that
there is a war in lorechat, but instead of there being two distinct sides everyone is attacking each other
battle royale
LOOK IM ON TV
Everyone around me is wrong and I will fight to defend my wrongness
Then there are those who occasionally throw eggs down from the sky and cause more chaos
this is what crab whisperer thinks when u deny their Britishness (integral part of their identity)
omg pirates (sorry I am easily distracted by pirates)
Just like the Abyss crew.
Hey do you think they killed people?
crab has a b in it and yknow what starts w b? BRITISH
oh my god they made season of abyss real?
Scotland forever 💙
My teeth are gonna become an integral part of your arm
And it even has a giant sea monster as well!
Dying, screaming, laughing, crying
HOW DID I FORGET SCOTLAND EXISTED DROP KICKING PAST KRII RN WHYD U SAY HE WAS BRITISH
AMEN
its ok krii that was the british casting evil spells on you
"OI WHAT THESE WEE CHILLREN DOIN ON ME LAWN"
Good. Every new person that gets assimilated into me makes me more powerful. You threaten me with violence, not realizing that you are contributing to your own downfall
We literally threw 3 Scottish flags at you bestie
i have like 0.008% British in my blood…..the curse…it’s fighting back…..
Irl darkness corruption disease
Me who is mostly British, but the Scot in me is defending my brain
I agree with you conceptually but the implications of that...
i was drawing gay ppl but now im in the goofy sillay mode
The only UK I got in me is Scottish and Irish let's go
darkness corruption = British = resh British?
Of course. He is a King, after all.
what do you think is Sky Ireland. I vote prairie although isle is close second
ok that is a better interpretation than I was worried about carry on
Yea that tracks, Ireland is field
it’s all coming together
i am highly venomous
Hear me out but valley is Scandinavian
Your venomous abilities will only make me stronger once you have been assimilated into the whole that is Salem. you will soon become one of my clones and you will not be able to stop it
Are you British as well, then?
hey guys name a random spirit for no reason haha
I don't trust you krii
NO. TOO FAR
levitating adept
😇
Laughing light catcher
you jest but my spores will overtake your body within a few days
The wind paths are the English channel
Are you a fungus now?
What the frick is going on now. I've been here the whole time and I'm still confused
Sitting here with my head in my hands because I forgot about British prophecy guide
OH YEAH
oh lord
Prairie being Ireland kinda fits given the Troubles
this was your first mistake… assuming I have only one body, and that killing that body will kill The Whole
Prophecy guide in summer will b looking for their baoao wo-ah
Grief
Just go with the flow. Make a British Sky meme.
DONT YOU DARE. blocked and reported to the authorities
salem you're too late 💔
you're assuming i will stop there
No… it can’t be…
I'm so sorry
I’m going to threaten vela later… I have to process my grief first
hey Bea what was going on with that one time you were british 🤨
I should go to sleep, so imagine me sending evil energy to this chat. Also, Crab Whisperer isn't british.
VELA IS SENDING BRITISH ENERGY INTO THE CHAT ?
So currently I have one notable rivalry in this battle Royale set in hell
Salem vs. Vela
Who’s winning, i don’t know I’m scared this is Aether reporting live
Enjoy your nightmares after participating in this chaotic mess of a chat.
There's worse than British out there
Oh no… the Fr*nch
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition
Manifesting all you heathens stub your toe on the door frame
uno reverse
Fool
This is my environment
I will never beat the British allegations