lore-discussion-spoilers

[nimble ingot]

there is corruption, if the concept art has some validity.

But other than that, the closest to being sick would be sneezing or shivering for skykids.

Other than losing their light and shattering that is.

[vestal merlin]

Thanks for answering! I‘d agree that the boats would break if they fell from the sky and these crashes might be fatal, but I‘d imagine them, like, shattering in a lot of small pieces? A possible cause for the crashes could be if the power diamonds (the “rowing” boats seem to function because of them, and other boats also have some at the top) don‘t work properly. As for the crashing during the Eden calamity: Absolutely possible. But also the boat statues on the middle island seem to be put there in some sort of espalier and they stand with their bow upwards and look like they‘ve been put there by someone who put at least some effort to make it look… nice. 🤔

[tranquil harbor]

It might be because the boat workshop is there. Like, it's a sign, literally, of the service provided. A restaurant might have a big frying pan or some food on their signs. Those boats may be lined up like that to go 'Hey, there is a boat place here'

[rigid mural]

Entering Boat Zone

[tranquil harbor]

Boat crafter: How do I advertise my workshop? I know, I'll arrange some boat pieces all pretty!

[sharp lichen]

That’s like a tech support service advertising “error” messages

[nimble ingot]

the narrow boat do not seem to be as common as the wider and flatter boats, if that is the proper description for them.

Perhaps the narrow boats were put there to commemorate the past of the smaller boats, and the newer, bigger boats are being made to adapt to the bigger loads for the boats. I am not too sure, though rowing boats seem like the norm when it comes to water and air travel. And then floating boats seem to need guidance such as the towers to follow a set path. Like a cart or a rail, or a cable car.

[tranquil harbor]

I don't think so (that was at baudshaw)

[compact shale]

Like a tech support advertising the monitor, the motherboard , the graphics cards, the cooling fan, etc? AHAHSHDGSGDGGSGE

[nimble ingot]

Imagine if skykids can steer boats.
I know they dont need them, but ever since I saw the old Light Awaits scene of a flightless skykid riding a boat. It looked so call, and exciting! It looked like a special moment that any first timer would cherish and reminisce about.

[compact shale]

TGC refuses to give us boating licenses

Instead we just use our mind

It's not as fun

[keen shore]

Maybe they just keep all the boat parts there in order to use them later? Pre disaster they’d be maintained better, but now they’re half buried in the ground and dirty.

The Boat Zone idea does make sense though because of the way the boats are arranged on the shipwright’s island, leading up to the bell

[tranquil harbor]

Sky kids may not need boats but technically we don't need cars. We can walk after all. Riding a boat would probably be fun and novel to them

[nimble ingot]

Boat sails man: *Slaps boat * This baby can work the whole day, no problem!

Then the boat drops like a stone

Boat sails man: Dont worry, that is-is just a security feature! ^^'

[nimble ingot]

Should skykid keep trying to take a test like Spongebob now? XD

[tranquil harbor]

Now I'm just imagining some spirits adopting a sky kid, and they go out to do something together that requires a boat, and the sky kid is just as excited to ride a boat as their actual spirit kid, and they were not expecting that

[compact shale]

If an unauthorized entity, such as your mother, your debt collector, a krill, or some other eldritch abomination attempts to enter the driver's seat, the boat will promptly disassemble itself.

[tranquil harbor]

That's a fast way to get disowned

[keen shore]

Ohhh that’s what happened to the ark

[nimble ingot]

This boat will self-deconstruct in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...

[rigid mural]

We do ride boats to enchantment and abyss areas, but not in a way we can steer them

[keen shore]

It would be hilarious if we had to summon a spirit to steer the boat for us

[rigid mural]

Home qg coming back ?

[keen shore]

We call them down from the sky and look at them with baby doll eyes until they steer the boat towards treasure reef for us, because we can’t drive

[formal skiff]

I hope sooooo

[queen forum]

…Fiato!

[tranquil harbor]

I am here to present the theory that table glitches are actually canon:

1. Sky kids normally need to fork over candles to talk to others (implying they need to share their light to better understand other individuals but that's another thing), but tables bypass this limitation
2. The first table is received from a spirit at the vault, which implies tables are technological in some way.
3. There is a spell to summon tables, implying they are magitech.
   Conclusion: Table glitch is the result of sky kids using the magic creatively, but in a way that they're really not supposed to (and possibly spirits hadn't even realized it was possible)
   Discuss

[keen shore]

Spells are jusr manifesting objects into reality suddenly right, so if theyre canon table glitches may be as well

[queen forum]

I always had a theory that none of it was magic and it was always just super advanced technology, because of Clarke’s third law and all that. Like, boats could some kind of anti gravity thing, the Sky children themselves could just be super advanced androids or whatever, and spells are just some kind of nanotech. Need a table? The bots will turn into one. Protect you from dark dragons? The bots form a shield around you. So could be similar. It’s like kids screwing around with a tablet or whatever. They don’t know what they’re doing, but they’re doing something.

[sharp lichen]

Are all glitches canon? That’s an interesting discussion, especially to me, who thinks that everything is canon.

[tranquil harbor]

Honestly I don't believe stuff like chibi fall is canon, because the way you get it is just 'pose and break through solid hilltop'. But table glitch as some evidence that you can use if you wanna be whacky

[sharp lichen]

@queen forum You know, that’s similar to an extremely old theory I had

[nimble ingot]

If glitches are canon. Then chibis are gremlins that can burrow through the ground and leave not a single trace.

If krill can do it with flying through walls, then why not skykids?

[compact shale]

Chibis didn't skip leg day

Their legs are extra dense to compensate for their size

[tranquil harbor]

Chibi mask makes u short, and half mole (!!! Half krill!)

[sharp lichen]

This but genuine

[nimble ingot]

That and skykids are mega trollfaces with the rocket glitch being them fighting to be on top of each other.

[queen forum]

Ooh, tell me more.

[sharp lichen]

My very first theory in Sky was that I assumed “the stars falling” was actual, real-life stars, and so they went supernovae.

[tranquil harbor]

It's possible they're also using magic in some way. But rather than a specific spell used incorrectly, the kids 'overload' one/both with their light and them fyoom, they rocket off when they try to do a flap

[queen forum]

Basically physics and magic colliding with the physics saying, “screw this, I’m out”.

[keen shore]

didn’t the valley elders do this in an old cutscene

[tranquil harbor]

Video tutorial on skytube: "I turned my friend into a rocket, not clickbait"

[rigid mural]

chibis

[queen forum]

Imagine soaring through the Prairie and then you see some dude walking in midair.

[rigid mural]

WOULDNT BE THE FIRST TIME TBH

[compact shale]

We've discussed this before and things like this are why we can't just make areas that get flooded after a certain quest

[queen forum]

True. That’s classic Sky right there.

[nimble ingot]

Last one, because I am running on fumes here. (And braincells the more I think of it)

Skykids with alt accounts are skykids that managed to split their souls and manifest another skykid that will help them with candle running and testing mechanics.
If that were to become canon, then the alt skykid would be like a clone or a blank slate that will be dependant to the host.

[rigid mural]

valley twins

[queen forum]

Question remains, though. If one of the Valley Twins split their soul, which one do we think did the split?

[tranquil harbor]

Sky kid learns to build a robot, more news at 11. Alternatively, yeah, they're just 'twins'

[compact shale]

"You pushed yourself off a cliff"

-Alasdair, probably

[tranquil harbor]

I'm of the belief that they originally looked like the 'single' person you see when you first meet them before they do the fancy footwork and reveal 'that's not just really interesting hair'.

So they've become two different people, rather than one is the OG

[queen forum]

Combined Valley Twins hair when.

[tranquil harbor]

Do it TGC, we need more stuff on the elder shop trees

[compact shale]

99 AC

[queen forum]

…Yeah, I could see it.

[rigid mural]

i think alasdair pointed out the superimposed twin haircuts did something similar to the symbol

[nimble ingot]

Skytube sound much cooler than Sky Internet

[tranquil harbor]

Did spirits have internet? They weren't a primitive civilization, and that kind of thing wouldn't survive the test of time I don't think

[nimble ingot]

It was joked in ts hints (I think)

[queen forum]

If they did, I don’t think the internet they had is anything close to ours. We’ve never really seen any screen like stuff in the memories besides the projectors, but I think those were more for just storing information, not communicating with others. So maybe they did, but if so then it likely worked very differently.

[tranquil harbor]

I mean, the office is a thing but it's not canon. Most of the ancestor tech wouldn't survive the passage of time, and we're not allowed into spirit houses to see if say, someone in the village of dreams has a computer

[queen forum]

Maybe they had some form of television, going back to the projectors again.

Just streaming news and other sorts of things all across the Kingdom.

[uncut pond]

Maybe they just had some form of radio, after all transmitting and receiving audio is much easier than images. And I'm pretty convinced that ancestors very likely communicated using music or calls similar to that of a skid's, although that's just a random theory I have no real evidence for

[tranquil harbor]

they can do both

[compact shale]

Hey quick question

Does this thing Ash saidimply that Ash's TS hints aren't canon

I mean the meta ones and the food ones definitely aren't but not all of the TS hints are like that

[keen shore]

WHEN WAS THIS
what was the hint

[compact shale]

Oh no this was when she revealed that Yeti was an axe juggler

[keen shore]

OH!! I knew it was a while ago because date

[queen forum]

Dang. Yeti likes to live life to the fullest.

[tranquil harbor]

axe juggler or axe thrower?

[compact shale]

Good thing it was just the horn and not the hand that got lopped off eventually

[tranquil harbor]

Vela really just goes 'I am going to water lorechat's crops' on the reg

[carmine garnet]

So I’m thinking the color choices for the prince are grey with gold (with a yellow glow). Thoughts?

[compact shale]

Vela is the lorechat muralist

(salem is the muralist RECORDER, that's different)

[carmine garnet]

Moff have teeth, very sharp teeth. Cause they like to nom

[harsh pecan]

stop reminding me of that thing 😭

thanks

[carmine garnet]

I mean I mainly headcanons this cause of little nightmares and all the stickers implying they eat crab

[harsh pecan]

do crabs taste good?

[carmine garnet]

Who knows, probably very crunchy

[harsh pecan]

do they eat the crabs alive?

[carmine garnet]

Nah. That’s cruel. They humanly kill the crabby (aka toss it from a high place) before cooking it

[harsh pecan]

ohhh

[queen forum]

…Can I see this “thing”?

[tranquil harbor]

Our kids are seagulls confirmed lol

I would assume eating crabs is like a crab boil. You don't eat the shell, you crack it open for meat

[carmine garnet]

But considering sky kids act like kids, I feel like they would be bity. Like the wasteland elder trying to teach the baby moffs and haft of them are chewing on his armor

[harsh pecan]

wait im trying to find it

[tranquil harbor]

Kid behavior: Everything is touched with tiny hands. Everything is put into their mouth to check if it's edible

[queen forum]

Wouldn’t the fire in the Wasteland with the Crabs being burnt over it show that they’re cooked with the shells on? First kill it, cook it, then crack it open to get the cooked meat. Dinner for three.

[fickle wing]

moths eating fabric like actual moths

[carmine garnet]

Yeah. Makes a lot of sense

[tranquil harbor]

Exactly. In a crab boil the meat is in the shell too. You crack it open on your plate with special tools. It's a really messy way to eat tbh

[queen forum]

Thinking back to the literal hammers people use to crack the shells open. You’d need a sledgehammer to do the same to the crabs.

[harsh pecan]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[tranquil harbor]

I would assume they'd pre-remove the meat if the ancestors had something like crab cakes, but unless the spirits are around to do it for them (Granny implies yes), I don't think the kids participate in such fancy cooking

[queen forum]

Thanks.

[queen forum]

True. As mentioned before, they’re children. If it looks edible they’ll eat it. Which…probably didn’t bode well for some of the light creatures on their first encounters.

[carmine garnet]

I meant just more sharp teeth. Like this

[tranquil harbor]

little nightmares crossover when please no

[harsh pecan]

we'll probs get eaten

[gilded socket]

When y e s

[queen forum]

Sky kids are so durable the Guests teeth would probably break against our skin, so win for us.

[carmine garnet]

But little sharp teeth made to tear off stone.
But they bite when also annoy, but also to see if it’s edible

[harsh pecan]

what about Six's teeth?

[twilit meteor]

Hello lore chat I don’t really talk here but
I am a theorist, and it's pretty quiet here
Now if only I had questions to look for answers to

[queen forum]

Considering the Sky kids would likely be a lot bigger than her, we’d liked just shake her off as an ankle biter. ||That or she would use her darkness powers to suck out our soul/light.||

[carmine garnet]

Can you imagine a baby moff sticking a dark crystal in their mouth, meanwhile their vet/elder is freaking out

[tranquil harbor]

What's stronger, our light or ||the darkness powers||? Tbh, our light might be a weakness for that. We can burn dark plants and stuff

[tranquil harbor]

-shakes baby moth violently- "You spit that out right now!"

[carmine garnet]

Or trying to pry their mouth open while the baby moff keeps trying to chew it

[tranquil harbor]

Baby moth is a dog confirmed
"what are you eating?" And then they let go of the vet's hand and run

[pastel brook]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[queen forum]

I’d say ||darkness powers, if you’re talking about LN. They gave the Lady the power to teleport, steal peoples souls, turn others into Ghoms, turn the spirits of children into tiny Golems with masks to fight for her, float, immortality (presumably), and I imagine a bunch of other stuff. She’s definitely deadlier.||

[carmine garnet]

I feel like chibis would be more bity then others

[tranquil harbor]

We already know chibis are mischief gremlins, that's just facts

[foggy lotus]

tempted to go here and try and find any useful info

[tranquil harbor]

I will not stop u

[carmine garnet]

Good luck.

https://lyvia-arts.tumblr.com/post/644018534065881089/another-contribution-of-little-nightmares2

[foggy lotus]

there was no info

[rigid mural]

considering the last gratitude TS we had, headcanon that whoever told them these stories is...

[queen forum]

…Can I have a link to that server?

[keen shore]

AWWW SOCUTE

[tranquil harbor]

Wasn't a gratitude spirit the guide for days of love?

[rigid mural]

yeah but they weren't the a TS tbf

[lofty void]

JAJDHHWHXHDH 😭

[keen shore]

I like to imagine it was sassy drifter because they know us the best

[rigid mural]

sassy drifter will probably visit us for the PC port tbh

[cloud apex]

what are the crystals supposed to do?

[compact shale]

But they're still a good candidate for The One Who Told Them

[tranquil harbor]

which crystals

[cloud apex]

Like the ones that is found throughout sky (boats, temples)

[tranquil harbor]

they're batteries. For powering things

[cloud apex]

oh oke, I see

[foggy lotus]

pretty sure that's what we're collecting in the abyss quests

[cloud apex]

yea, I was just wondering because not all doors require those batteries

Like the praying acolyte one that make the whooshing sounds

[queen forum]

Oh, I thought the ones in the quests were just shiny rocks. I didn’t make the connection.

[compact shale]

Don't we levitate the batteries in tho? JDFHSD

[foggy lotus]

i mean...the big guy's door opened after we took the big diamond

[cloud apex]

Yeah, the door inside that only require flame

[queen forum]

I suppose you could say the rocks are batteries and the flames are electricity, then.

[cloud apex]

lol you channel the electricity straight to the door 😂

[tranquil harbor]

The 'batteries' use light, not electricity. Our kids are essentially super mega batteries by nature, so we can use our little candles to power stuff

[cloud apex]

this was what i was talking about earlier

Arguably the 2nd coolest door the game lol

[tranquil harbor]

hidden battery, obviously. Fancy light switch.

[cloud apex]

maybe, I just can’t think of another door that follows this design. Maybe this is old tech?

[tranquil harbor]

perhaps

[cloud apex]

I’m probably over analyzing the concept of doors in sky lol, it’s just a door… right?

[tranquil harbor]

A door that leads no where

[compact shale]

where is that door

[cloud apex]

it’s inside the praying acolyte cave

[tranquil harbor]

yeah, it's hidden along the left wall, where the big nightmare before christmas ramp is

[undone trench]

Could I kindly ask where, I must see it

[rigid mural]

where what ?

[undone trench]

The post, I got curious,

[rigid mural]

general chat, look for ash's messages !

their username is ashen#3703, if you need to recognise it on the dropdown menu of users

[sharp lichen]

Should I give you a question for you to answer?

[sharp lichen]

Hello eggyog!

[royal wagon]

you know how the abyss spirits are .. spirits? I keep thinking we're acting out what the abyss guide wishes that happened when they were alive. we're in place of abyss guide gathering gems and ||saving canonneer||.I'm not sure if the latter actually happened when they were alive or just the guides wish fulfillment
oh hi!

[sharp lichen]

Oh, I’m really not sure about that. In my interpretation, i think that what we see is what’s actually happening in the present.

[royal wagon]

they do be ancestors though but valid

[compact shale]

In my interpretation, we went into the crew's memories and made them think that we were part of their crew and that we saved Cannoneer in the past. However, since Abyss Guide was told of our plan before it started (and thus they helped us become "in" with the crew), they can't ascend because they still know the truth and haven't dealt with it yet.

[tranquil harbor]

the only downside is that the resources are real and would have had to be returned to their places. Also, the leviathan and krills were free because of our actions

[royal wagon]

true, haven't really have an area with that drastic change in the past seasons

[queen forum]

But how does that work? If we were the one who set the Krills and Leviathan loose, then how did they get set free in the past? Unless…we’re reliving the memories of just the quest guide and what they did? Every quest we did was just their actions the whole time? Like Eggyog suggested?

[tranquil harbor]

but if they already did those things in the past, we wouldn't be able to do them now

[queen forum]

That’s true. Unless someone else put the Krill and Leviathan back in the cage.

[royal wagon]

my thoughts are we are reliving the guides action
but if they did release the krills then they would have been out since the first quest. heck

[compact shale]

Hmmm... what if instead of altering their past memories, we're actually going back in time to help them?

Abyss Guide helps us blend in and keeps the crew from noticing anything wrong with us, we do what we did in the quests, and when Cannoneer gets... er, lost, we find them so they get rescued in our timeline instead of dying there in the original.

[tranquil harbor]

Yeah, with seasons like dreams you can just believe you're watching a memory (except during the final dance) but abyss really out here like 'this is MODERN baby'

[queen forum]

I had a similar thought. It does feel like there’s some kind of time travel shenanigans going on with all this.

[keen shore]

I have this idea that spirits project their memories for you as you relive them so that you can help them move on, and that’s why you need to touch them with your candle to project each stage in the memory, to give them the light necessary. The abyss quests could be a more complex version of that

[compact shale]

Isn't the finale a memory too? We "witnessed" it

[royal wagon]

would they allow a baby on board tho /j

[tranquil harbor]

We have to dance with her as part of her show. The spotlight follows us and everything

[compact shale]

They allowed Abyss Guide on board

[royal wagon]

yeah! i always thought spirits linger if they have unfinished business (sanctuary guide and no manta on the island, enchantment guide and the wrecked ark)

[queen forum]

Wait wait wait wait. Can spirits summon a candle? Because if they can’t, then this couldn’t have been the guide quests memories we’re reliving and we somehow did alter everything. Because if they got swallowed by the beast and had no candle to free themselves…did that never happen? Or did they die and that was how they became spirits and their deaths have been what we were supposed to fix the entire time? Could be something like that.

[compact shale]

Yeah, my thoughts that we either altered their memories or the timeline because the original had them die there.

[tranquil harbor]

There is also an issue with them being eaten by the beast in the past. The manta gets covered in plants. If they were eaten, their spirits shouldn't be available to us at all

[queen forum]

I mean, it’s possible that getting covered in plants might have just been the monsters method of digestion. They might have ended up like that if they stayed in there for too long.

[royal wagon]

actually the more I think about it the more I love the idea. the implication that we can time travel (I mean we already can reborn) how did we travel into the past? how did sky children figure out time travel. what technology was made or was it just in our stone and light properties

[compact shale]

Maybe it has something to do with their memories? I would LIKE to assume that we're just altering their memories but the diamonds and creatures are real

[queen forum]

I assume it’s the same tech that allows us to relive memories and for the spirits to show themselves, just on a much grander scale.

[uncut pond]

Who knows, maybe the manta wasn't literally covered in dark plants, or at least not physically, the manta might be just the beast itself overtaken by darkness... But that would imply that skids have the potential to cure Krills and honestly I think I'm opening a whole can of worms here

[royal wagon]

I dont think they can summon a candle. tearful miner died by darkness plants
el Michi are you implying mantas can be overtaken by darkness

[queen forum]

If that’s true, and the same logic applies, we’d have to go inside the Krills as well to cure them. And…I think they’d tear us into chibi sized chunks before we managed to force their mouth open.

[royal wagon]

darkens your manta it floats around you and instead of recharging they drain your light

[uncut pond]

I'm implying that the beast as well as Krills are darkness-corrupted mantas

Oops I replied to the wrong message

[keen shore]

[un lights your creature]

[queen forum]

I always assumed the Beast was a corrupted version of this guy:

[tranquil harbor]

the leviathan is not cured at the end of the quest. It's still in the abyss, and u can go down there and look at it

[royal wagon]

maybe krills and shrimps are more suspectable to corruption compared to mants and jellies? imagine the biology classes in sky

[keen shore]

Maybe the idea is that we only cured them a little - enough that they’d stop eating light creatures and attacking us, but we don’t have the capability to go further?

[uncut pond]

Oh, I didn't know. I haven't finished Abyss yet because I can't get past the fourth quest...

[queen forum]

Yeah, like sorta training an animal not to attack.

[foggy lotus]

what if light creatures act differently when they loose light?
like the manta guiding us at the start of gw straight up dissapeared when it got krilled

[queen forum]

I thought it just got nommed and died. Or whatever the heck counts as “dying” in this universe.

[royal wagon]

reminds me of zombification in media
it's eaten or get turned

[royal wagon]

id like to think ||they reborn with us in eden||

[uncut pond]

I think mantas (or possibly whales(?)) don't get corrupted by losing light but rather specifically because of the process of using mantas to create diamonds, since that would fit Sky's theme of environmentalism

[compact shale]

Yeah, we've definitely theorized that before

It was a gory time for lorechat

[royal wagon]

oh god
I'm gonna think of mantas eveytime I gotta light a door

[uncut pond]

W... Why was it gory...??

Actually no I don't want to know

[queen forum]

Because we’re talking about turning mantas into crystals through factories like some kind of light creature slaughterhouse.

[royal wagon]

is the vault elevator diamond.. is that why there are whale carcasses in vault and ghost/cosmic mantas..

[uncut pond]

We don't know the specifics of the process so we can't know for sure...

[queen forum]

Mm, probably.

[royal wagon]

why is there grass/sand in vault

[queen forum]

That’s true. Sky can get dark at times, but I don’t think the devs would make it that dark. Probably.

[uncut pond]

Nah, I'm convinced that it's because every floor of vault represents an specific realm you went through before, and that floor happens to represent wasteland

This also sorta answers your question of why is there grass

[tranquil harbor]

places have indoor gardens. I'm sure the scholars get tired of being cooped up inside all the time

[royal wagon]

true

[queen forum]

I thought the sand was the projectors turned to dust, having been destroyed for whatever reason. Just specific projectors thought. Perhaps someone like the King, trying to erase things that make him look bad.

Or am I reading into that too much?

[tranquil harbor]

it depends if you think the king is evil or not. I certainly don't

[royal wagon]

maybe they were about manta crystal technology

[sharp lichen]

Over analyzing is the name of the game in lorechat! Don’t worry. I do think that the King did some pretty bad stuff, but he was pretty young and immature

[queen forum]

I meant it happened after he got…mostly corrupted.

[uncut pond]

I still believe that the king was just a very tall skid that honked at the ancestors lol (see: the prince/king is a proto skid theory)

[royal wagon]

the depictions on the prophecy cave?

I'm thinking about the message at the start of isle. bring the stars home (which I'm certain is about wl). what made them fell in the first place?
if they were on the murals does it mean the spirits knew about them and could see them??

[sharp lichen]

That’s a good question: I really haven’t thought about it, but I’d assume it’s Megabird sending down their forces of light to help the Skykids?

[uncut pond]

Perhaps those murals were just another prophecy? And in old versions of Sky, WL were called "stars", but in an even older version before wl was a thing, ancestors were the stars instead

[gilded socket]

It could simply be something immersive, we aren't actively involved anyways

[compact shale]

Funny headcanon but

what if Megabird sent birds to write those murals to educate us

[queen forum]

I mean, if the megabird can control all light animals like some kind of hive mind, it could be possible!

[gilded socket]

The question is

Can they?

[queen forum]

The answer, like most answers:

Who knows.

[uncut pond]

Foolishness, it is a canon fact that Isle Elder controls all the birds and therefore megabird itself /j

[queen forum]

Imagine if it was something like that, though. Like, the megabird was one of the Elders in disguise to see how we’re doing on our quest.

[uncut pond]

Considering that at one point all skids wore animal masks and some elders were animals... I can imagine it lol

[rigid mural]

Spirits using the ruins as stepping stones... could they have been living in a post apocalyptic world too ?

[queen forum]

Perhaps, or maybe those aren’t even ruins, just stepping stones and that’s just weird architecture.

[keen shore]

Maybe that’s why we have to free These spirits specifically. They were all living after the disaster, struggling to survive, and they couldn’t

[harsh pecan]

yea, either that or the ruins were there before the eden explosion

[queen forum]

That could be possible. Similar events have happened on Earth. Just look at Egypt. The pyramids were already ruins by the time the last Pharaohs left the scene. Super ancient.

[royal wagon]

maybe that was built when isle of dawn looked like that in the NS trailer and the spirits we see now are descendents of them

[compact shale]

At least some of them lived in the post-apocalyptic, like Team Abyss and possibly Team Enchantment

Has TGC ever projected the unruined forms of a building for a spirit to walk on? That would establish the spirit being pre-apocalypse without making them float randomly for no obvious reason

[rigid mural]

Yeah ! the bells in some memories in the prairie village are an example ! baffled botanist also features a bookshelf that isnt there anymore

Unfortunately I feel like such a thing might be hard considering the game is already overheating some poor android phones, but i'd be eager to see some buildings being "repaired" by memories

[queen forum]

I mean, does that giant tree we saw getting taken down for that one spirit in the Forest count?

[rigid mural]

Lumberjackkkkk

[queen forum]

🪓

[foggy lotus]

dude, we still need to talk about the tree in the vault when relieving polite schoolar

[rigid mural]

magic. next question /j
I feel like it's interesting, shows us ancestors may still be able to affect the terrain 👀

[foggy lotus]

do spirits count?

[queen forum]

I presume so, unless the apocalypse came and they’re all just hiding in that cave to get away from it.

[compact shale]

the memories show the building's past so that spirits don't just randomly float over stuff fhsfhso;hSHO;hH;SFSH

[rigid mural]

???

[uncut pond]

The performance hit might not be as bad as you think

I don't know for sure, but I believe most of the performance gets obliterated by the clouds and not the actual geometry, and abyss has already shown us that Sky is totally able to add stuff onto areas without significant performance hits (for me, at least)

[compact shale]

Like if you saw a spirit randomly levitating over a building and the building wasn't reconstructed with memories you'd wonder what the heck was going on

though if you assumed what was in Guru's memories was just a normal thing any spirit could do then maybe not but aydsdhfsdhf

[hushed steeple]

Bah.

[tranquil harbor]

I mean, we can levitate. And I always assumed guru was jumping

[compact shale]

JUMP LIKE A FROG GURU GO FOR IT

[queen forum]

Boing boing boing.

[rigid mural]

I mean yeah that's the gameplay explanation, but this is lore chat and we spin theories out of... [checks sticky note] spirit altitude in their memories /nm

[restive cosmos]

what if whenever we meditate we time travel
Megabird has a plan set out for the spirits but they fail to follow that plan so Megabird sent sky kids to go to set the spirits on the right path by making them time travel to the past at the temple to show the elders how to use light thus making them follow the plan

[harsh pecan]

Oooo

[restive cosmos]

I'll find more evedence... when i return to sky

[compact shale]

sweeping unruly heckers back onto the straight and narrow

[restive cosmos]

what?

[compact shale]

The spirits are the unruly heckers and we are sweeping them back into the straight and narrow path they were meant to take

[weak osprey]

Does that mean we're a firewall system?

Hackers vs Firewall

[compact shale]

a...

[restive cosmos]

that's not what I meant
it's supposed to be like this
alright spirits, you are supposed to use those sticks to make fir-
WAIT DON'T EAT THE STICKS
alright I guess I'll have to send the skykids to show how it's actually done

[tranquil harbor]

why did no one tell me lighting the torch pots in cave of prophecy expanded the murals

[compact shale]

DEAR FRICK

[restive cosmos]

because u never asked what they do

if my theory is correct, the realms must be eras

[cursive mauve]

A question then sleep. And im probably way off course and lore.... actually realms are stages of life like isle is baby then childhood and ect it shows an example in the ||office||
||If we give soul/star/wl ect to the statues in eden are we basically giving birth to new moths?||

[harsh pecan]

but we see spirits from different realms interacting with eachother. If the realms were eras, then wouldnt those spirits be older (or buried)?

[restive cosmos]

wait when, sorry i havent played in about 3 months i kinda forgot some stuff

[harsh pecan]

some wasteland spirits were in the dark water enjoyer from tlp's memory and in the final flight cutscene

[grand vigil]

Hi~ can someone catch me up with the sky cotl lore? I'm extremely bored in class rn

[restive cosmos]

oh yea right

maybe it's not an era that long but a decade instead

[harsh pecan]

Do you have any specific questions? Sky lore is too vague

[compact shale]

There's a lot of things we talk about here so if you want to ask about the lore it's best to ask about a specific topic such as a particular season, something unusual you've noticed that might be important, or a particular theme the game has

You can also check the docs in the pins!

Hoo boy no way are we gonna explain EVERYTHING without you falling asleep at some point

But here's a very abridged version of the main story

||The king screwed up
There's darkness abuse
The spirits can't ascend without our help
and now we're here to ascend them||

These docs may be outdated, but they might help you think of a topic to bring up!
Lore Moth Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing

The Canon Lore Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing

[gilded socket]

Welp
I guess that somehow sums it up
And yes there's a lot of unclear things due to it being open-ended, so have fun creating your own ideas

Megabird more like Megahair-

[compact shale]

HAIR-

[quick terrace]

You’re telling me all the megabird depictions are just long locks of hair?

[harsh pecan]

Y e s, really big locks of hair actually

[boreal nebula]

Eye of Eden
aka || Pipe Land ! *SuperMario Pipe Theme starts*||

If you do, consider leaving the pixel strokes
|| I know.. I am probably the only one liking them 😅 ||

[copper saffron]

Hi lorechat
Is there a canon reason eden resets every week?

[naive sequoia]

I think it's mostly a gameplay thing, but there is a theory that the skid statues from last week are not the same skid statues this week

(someone double check me, I'm crusty at sky lore now)

[tranquil harbor]

I mean, they're probs in the same places because of gameplay. It's easier if they just have set spaces from a programming prospective, probably. But logically, they're probably not the same kids (though considering the kids u free flying to orbit have your friends names on them, it might be the same kids, if rng decides to make u feel bad)

[naive sequoia]

Imagine being reborn and going back to Eden, but then you meet that one skid again you saved a few weeks ago

[tranquil harbor]

Like "hey, guess what, your friend Wuxojupi sucks at eden lul" (tho in the end it's not the real Wuxojupi)

[naive sequoia]

Yeah, they just copy paste the names of the people in your list and plaster them onto random enlightened kids on the way to Orbit

[tranquil harbor]

yep (hurts more when it's someone that isn't a rando name. Though I have one friend named 'Small Yeti' for reasons and that one would be funny)

[naive sequoia]

Makes me think, are skids being printed by Megabird en masse or is there a set number of them?

[tranquil harbor]

There are at least 71 canon sky kids. There are 63 statues in eden, and 8 is the server limit. So you can have 71 sky kids on a map at once

[naive sequoia]

Yeah but like,without game limitations, what would it be?

Another HC mayhaps?

[tranquil harbor]

Depends by what you mean 'en masse'. Like, mega bird gave them a mission, but do you mean 'mega bird is just churning out an army' or 'mega bird means for us to be the new dominant species'

[naive sequoia]

"Megabird churning out skids to save other skids" en masse

It's a cycle right? Like someone said in lore chat a while back: Even if you did manage to save all 63 statues, you still get left behind, so it's never possible that every skid can be saved.

It's like a Catch-22

[tranquil harbor]

WRONG
(Hold on I'll explain, I forgot about the timer)

[copper saffron]

Time loop curse?

[tranquil harbor]

It's not quite a catch 22. If all other kids manage to be saved, and the final kid is able to inch back towards the exit, the kids can keep doing this, until the last kid is close enough to save and then their hero turn back and get to the exit.
But tbh, I'm starting to think the kids are mentally around 5-years-old, so this kind of problem solving may be too much for them. Kids aren't dumb, but 5-year-olds generally don't think like this

[naive sequoia]

I don't understand? By giving out all WL you don't have some sort extra source for light which means you turn into a statue and another skid comes along and gives you their WL and then the other statues as well then they turn into a statue then you get reborn then cycle starts again. What do you mean by "If the skids are able to keep doing this until the last skid is close enough to save then the hero turns back and heads into the exit"?

My literacy skills aren't too bright rn forgive me

[naive sequoia]

Something like that, yes. Not a time loop necessarily, but a cycle loop

[tranquil harbor]

• All statue kids are saved. Final child, who is all the way at the end but still alive, turns back toward the entrance and gets as close as they can.
• Another child gets prepared, gets all the way to where that kid fell, and turns around toward the entrance, getting closer than the other did.
• Repeat until eventually, the final child who goes in is able to safely return to the entrance after saving the statue. No one is dead. Cycle ends.

[naive sequoia]

Can you specify what is the "entrance"?

[tranquil harbor]

entrance to the final area. the point of no return

[naive sequoia]

Also, we have another issue: The quantity of WL available in Sky

Eh? But to be able to get to the last skids you'll need to go into the unending rock rain? By then, you'd be all out of WL unless you have 150+ WL in you, but that's gameplay? What about the lore perspective?

Even now, we don't even know what a WL is

[tranquil harbor]

Who's to say the gameplay isn't canon?

[naive sequoia]

How is a WL made? Is there a set number of WL? Why do they come back each time we die? Are they also diff WL but in the same place?

Yes, but not all mechanics is lore. For now anyway, since we don't have any confirmation.

[tranquil harbor]

Why does this gameplay not count though?

Why do I even have to defend it? I said 'if the kids managed to do X', that's literally it

[naive sequoia]

I didn't say gameplay doesn't count, I meant that not all gameplay mechanics can be lore. If anything maybe they started making lore through mechanics, I don't know

[tranquil harbor]

I'm sorry, I'm getting towards the time where I need sleep, so I'm getting kind of crabby

[naive sequoia]

I feel you :')

That was the main reason I didn't talk much on lorechat

[tranquil harbor]

Don't let catching me at an odd time of day discourage you. The people here can be really fun. I can be fun, when I'm not sleepy. (But try to make me explain or defend anything while sleepy is likely to make me an angry cat)

[naive sequoia]

I'm sure of it, don't worry. I know how cracked and insane lorechat can be

[tranquil harbor]

What the heck has langodan been working on, they're writing a novel

[naive sequoia]

Shhhh let them take their time

[nimble ingot]

Gameplay can be excluded from lore where applicable.
For instance the fact that the skykjd model has no fingers.
Or the Little Prince seems to be using a skykid's animations and code to work in the game (which may NOT imply he is a skykid, but he xan act like a child!).

[tranquil harbor]

No rush, but still, I'm curious
@nimble ingot but is winged light applicable?

[nimble ingot]

Langodan, if Eranica is right about you writing a lot of things.
Best be copying it, just in case it gets deleted without a warning.

Save the text

[tranquil harbor]

The censor bot is real, and it has some weird words it censors

[naive sequoia]

Yeah, sometimes you gotta remember they skip meticulous game mechanic reexamination because they intend sky lore to be more up to interpretation

[nimble ingot]

It is.
It plays a crucial role in the lore (at least to my understanding), even if there is little info on them.

All we know they are possibly fragments of light. Since they were once called STARS in the past.

[copper saffron]

I was more thinking its a timeloop because the statues remain in the same position
If that's ignored as a gameplay thing, (which i try not to do but), then the statues could very well be anyone who's been through there and died.
But this does leave a slight hole. When you die and are turned into a statue, you're reborn immediately. So what purpose does lighting your statue do?
That's why i presented the timeloop theory. The statues you light are the same skykids every time. They were trapped in the curse and are forced to die and be reborn each week. WL are 'imprints of the children of the light', quoted somewhere idr rn. Perhaps they're 'marks' these children left on the world, places where they had such an impact that they left a fragment of their light there. That's why there are more WL than there are statues. That's also why spirits can give you wing buffs, because they had an impact on the spirits' memories too.
These might have been like, the legendary skykids, the first group to venture into the eye of eden and attempt to rid the curse, which triggered the time loop, trapping them.
Not sure what put the curse there, but theres a lot we dont know.
We're then destined to venture into eden like they once did, but even lighting them all wont break the curse. Then, our progress is reset again next week.
Perhaps theres something that's still missing.

(Yeah i copied it dw)

[tranquil harbor]

I've heard they're 'imprints of the sky kids where many of them gathered' (paraphrased), and tbh that'd make a lot of sense. They're in incredibly finicky places. The one in hidden forest, right after the social area on the wooden planks in the tree? Like come on, how many of us would see those planks even without the light and go 'I wanna land on that'? They're in places that make you go 'hey I wonder what's up there. I'm gonna find out', and in the corridor leading to eden's final area? They're in resting poses. They're not just standing around like normal, they're sitting or leaning near the lamps, as the kids who made the trek rest and recharge.

[naive sequoia]

There was a theory that in our irl time, it may just take seconds for you to be reborn but in time of the kingdom of Sky you may have been trapped there for hundred of years before you got saved

[tranquil harbor]

Or the bones in the vault. You can't see the light from a normal angle. You have to look at those bones and go 'teehee, I wanna see if I can climb on that' and then you can see the light as you fly up.
Plus just the ones that are right in the middle of the straight path. Forest has several, and the ones in isle

[sharp lichen]

What about the ones at the end of the trials?

[copper saffron]

The skykids chilling there after the trial
Tired

[pastel brook]

I'm here to tri all the trials!

[naive sequoia]

Not to mention that the WL pose feels like they're going "Wooooow this is gorgeous/cool/amazing [insert more positive adjectives]

There's a sense of wonder, is what I'm saying

[sharp lichen]

You are here to miserably fail at the trials. Go home skybot, you’ve been drinking too much cave water

[tranquil harbor]

Besides the 'king is a sky kid theory' you have the possibility that our kids find the trials easy because sky kids are just built differently, and thus, you get the kid loop of doing the trials for funsies. Or it's trial magic the same way trials work. Our kids like winged light, so the prophets can make that our reward somehow

[copper saffron]

Theyre all looking around in awe, such innocence, these poor kids ;-;

But yeah thanks for coming to my ted talk that was my headcanon

[naive sequoia]

I mean, I feel exactly like that everytime I play Sky or IRL so bonus immersion for me

[copper saffron]

Yeah
Every time i get reborn, i still get shivers. When we finally soar through the clouds and the choir kicks in, shivers man, all down my back

[tranquil harbor]

Winged light locations fall under two categories:

1. Literally on the straightest possible path to the next story point.
2. Where indulging in childish desires and whimsy take you

[naive sequoia]

Also, singing with AURORA in the way to Orbit? Never fails to make me cry

[naive sequoia]

Maybe both?

[copper saffron]

Defo both

[sharp lichen]

What about AURORA singing at Orbit? The Light Beyond is such an amazing track, my second favorite in the game

[tranquil harbor]

I said both

[naive sequoia]

But you said two categories which means you placed the two in different groups?

[tranquil harbor]

Both groups exist

[naive sequoia]

But what about the possibility of both happening at the same time? Skids being amazed and whimsies by the straight path

[copper saffron]

Same
Flight might be my favourite, both from post eden lmao
And the credits too

[tranquil harbor]

No. While that's theoretically possible, they are two different things for the point of the point

[naive sequoia]

I even sing irl going "auuughhh hu AUUUGHUHGUHUGH HUH HUUUUH WUHUA"

[copper saffron]

BRO I CAN READ THIS TO THE TUNE WHAT

[naive sequoia]

And then the credits "Nee hee EEYIEEHHH FAADALAAA AUUUN NAAAA HEEE SOOOOOOO LAAA EEE EEIEEE EEEEH HEEE SOOOOO LAAAAA"

[tranquil harbor]

Category 1 is essentially where you expect the kids to end up. They're all going to the elders, so u expect some winged light along the way because they show up in hoards.
Category 2 is where you go 'yeah these are a bunch of kids' because sky kids like to explore and they go to the most curious places. but there was no 'guarantee', because sky kids don't technically have a reason to go off the beaten path

[nimble ingot]

I like this theory.

Oerhaps the best way to confirm this is if the game would be able to show shooting stars. Because that can imply that stars are still falling down.

That, or as part of the time loop, us skykid can make small changes to the world, but these changed ar enot permanent. That is unless we have spirits to help us.

Since Eden does not have any spirits in Eden, we skykids are not able to change what happens to the statues.
The inly proof we get that the change too place at all are the ascended candles.

The ascended candles proves we are doing something, but it is not enough. Which keads to the next step where we give ascended candles to spirits.

Maybe that is what us skykid are meant to do.
I have written a long theory in tbe oast about us skykids acting as a bridge across time, sinilar to Cooper the astronaut in Interstellar.
We may not be able to make this change yet. But in time, a change will occur, with the help of the spirit and our efforts that made it possible.

I really hope TGC actually have taken the time to research their themes as much as us theorists are able to draw connecrions to.
Otherwise, the "open to interpretation" statement may be the straw that broke the canel's back.

[naive sequoia]

Maybe I just need to separate my experience from my skid, I basically felt both at the same time when I played the game. Being in awe and exploring the base story further, as well as the beaten path.

[nimble ingot]

This is also a bot in thatskybot

[tranquil harbor]

I think you're just not understanding what I'm trying to say. But I'm too tired to say it better (if I even can)

[naive sequoia]

Yeah there's most likely a barrier between our understanding due to both being sleep deprived

[copper saffron]

Good take.
I really want to know what happened to eden, and what it'd take to get there. I understand that it has to remain there for endgame purposes and AC, but imagine how cool a season set in the past would be? We could visit the locations as they were before the collapse, visit eden castle, see the night sky full of stars.

[sharp lichen]

To me it’s the morning, so what I’m thinking is that whoever sent the WL down sent them with both reasons in mind- yes, they wanted Skykids to become more powerful by upgrading their cape, but they also want Skykids to explore the world

[copper saffron]

I think ennarcia is trying to say that WL come from both types of experiences

[naive sequoia]

The day I see the kingdom of Sky intact is the day I ascend

[tranquil harbor]

Category 1 is: The straightest possible route to the story points. As in, sky kids are required to go here in large numbers. Thus, there are going to be many of them experiencing the same thing and leaving impressions. You expect this, because being in these particular locations (like the isle rock before the elder temple) is what they should be doing.

Category 2 is: In a place the sky kid was not required to go at all, but they're kids, so they saw a place or an interesting thing and went 'I want to go there' and so they did (and thus u get winged light on top of the vault bones). IE: 'A place that you're rewarded for thinking like children think'

[sharp lichen]

I mean, both of those could exist at the same time? They’re mutually inclusive, since there’s so many WL

[tranquil harbor]

They do exist at the same time. I literally said 'wing light falls under 2 catagories'

[naive sequoia]

Yes, but what I'm saying is maybe there's a third one where both categories were mixed into one.

[copper saffron]

Thats what they've been trying to say the whole time lol

[naive sequoia]

I can't successfully articulate my thoughts I give up

[copper saffron]

Ennarcia im sorry i think im the only person that understood first time XD

[tranquil harbor]

Apparently I can't either

[naive sequoia]

Spare us some of your coherence please

[sharp lichen]

Does it look like we have any?

[tranquil harbor]

I feel like people are hearing 'rewarded for being in aw/giving in to whimsy' and 'it's the story so it's their job' and conflating 'job' with 'boring' when they shouldn't be.

[naive sequoia]

Wait what , now I literally can't understand anything, I'm outta here until I can absorb information properly again

[tranquil harbor]

I just don't get what's so hard to understand. I feel like I'd be explaining this exactly the same if I wasn't tired which just makes me more frustrated because I know nothing would change

[copper saffron]

Lemme attempt a tldr.
Skykids are curious, but understand their role. They go along the obvious path to complete their mission.
However, they also frequently stray off the marked route and explore around the place, curious about the world and everything in it.
Thus, you get WL in obvious places, and some in places you'd never think to look, unless you too are curious and explore.

[naive sequoia]

Yes, but what about the WL in the obvious path? Maybe they were made because the skid who left them both knew their role but were also amazed and got more curious to explore the kingdom (because this might be their first time arriving)

aaaAAAAAAAAAAA

[tranquil harbor]

It literally does not matter how they felt on the obvious path

[naive sequoia]

Then how is a WL made then? I thought it was because of a sense of wonder?

Did I just circle us back? If you think I did just give up on me to save some headache

[tranquil harbor]

You're getting too caught up in this 'sense of wonder' thing! Yeah, they can feel a sense of wonder on the main path, but it's not about that

[naive sequoia]

Then what is it about?

[rigid mural]

The "wl is sky kid desire paths" theory isn't canon; it makes sense but there's no way to confirm that

[naive sequoia]

Lmao yeah, WL lore is extremely scarce/nonexistent

HOw is WL MAAADDEE

[copper saffron]

I see it simply as a place they once visited that had an impact on them or the world.
It could be wonder, yes, but it could also just be places they visited frequently, had a affinity for, or enjoyed being in for example.

[rigid mural]

I'd like to point out ascended spirits visit you in orbit to give you wl; it's the same animation as when we give wl to a statue

[tranquil harbor]

It's not about how winged light is made, the categories fall under how you, the player, finds them

[naive sequoia]

ooOOOH that's the info I was missing

[tranquil harbor]

We finally put this topic to bed and Vela comes in here with a 3rd category

1. Direct path to next story point
2. Rewards for behaving/thinking like a child and exploring certain places
3. Ascended spirits

[copper saffron]

I think this is the imprint the kids had on the spirits themselves.
Damn lorechat be chaos

[naive sequoia]

sigh

[rigid mural]

If you don't mind, I have a headcanon I voiced a while ago on wl that I'm just gonna copy-paste here

[copper saffron]

Sure lol

[naive sequoia]

Yes please

[rigid mural]

Interesting ! Also that's just regular lore chat lol. I like it here when it's not too crowded, like this

[naive sequoia]

Also there was this bug fix in beta where the WL in GW apologized and was very lonely from being hidden away from sight but was thankful for the skids glitching in just to see them

[sharp lichen]

Are big fixes canon?

[naive sequoia]

I know it's most likely just usual bug fix humoring but it's just food for thought

[naive sequoia]

No, I don't think so, but it is interesting if WL are a different species altogether

[tranquil harbor]

Winged light: -gets hidden by accident-
Sky kids: -literally bend reality to get to them- No one gets left behind!

[naive sequoia]

Ohanna means family, and family mean– wall is strong bUT FAMILY IS STONGER

[copper saffron]

This is probably the last game id expect to have this passionate of a lore chat
So tempted to get the switch trailer and make one of those lore memes

[rigid mural]

The ancestors giving you wl in orbit... the old generation giving the new their hopes and dreams as a legacy.

Most places you find winged light in are rather scenic or emotionally charged, perhaps they're like memories of the places you visited that you take with you.

Maybe "returning light to the fallen" means rekindling their hope and helping them move on ?
I like to think the winged lights symbolize our hopes, dreams, strengths and stubbornness in the face of death. 

So losing winged lights = losing hope, strenght and will
Giving winged lights = giving hope to others, your legacy being how much strength you showed through what you endured, inspiring others to take wing once more...```

[naive sequoia]

Oh! I remember this, very beautifully worded btw

[tranquil harbor]

I remember it too

[rigid mural]

Aw ! I'm pretty proud of that one, people like it and it fits with Sky's themes, with cycles and helping others.

[copper saffron]

Its a v good one

[rigid mural]

Well, to be fair, one of the goals of the game is to "explore the fallen kingdom", so we're following instructions here

[compact shale]

The ancestors have their dreams that they pass on to us

don't say this contradicts Last Wish Theory don't say this contradicts Last Wish Theory don't say this-

[copper saffron]

The WHAT

[rigid mural]

Why would it contradict it ?

[naive sequoia]

Interesting how it's explore and not anything else, like the age of the kingdom isn't gonna be jumpstarted again, or maybe I'm just drilling too hard again

[naive sequoia]

This contradicts— //slapped//

[copper saffron]

I havent heard about this one lol

[naive sequoia]

I absolutely adore Last Wish theory when I first read it! Gave me the right amount of desolation and somberness of a kingdom left to ruins and being found again by inhabitants of the future

[compact shale]

Don't worry I don't really think so

@copper saffron the Last Wish Theory is the idea that the quests are about helping the spirit(s) or maybe just the guide do something they didn't/couldn't do when they were alive

[rigid mural]

This is from Light Awaits (pre-release sky); seems like the ancestors days are truly over and it's now our turn to inherit this world, here...

[naive sequoia]

Yeah, imagine doing the things they weren't able to do and them being able to live vicariously what they wanted to do through our experiences

(Like some irl parents or something except none of the bad parts and high expectations)

[naive sequoia]

I really wish I played Light Awaits, I am absolutely rabid when it comes to the topic of the lore in it

[rigid mural]

There's a full playthrough somewhere on youtube !

[compact shale]

I really want to someday be able to figure out a possible wish for Team Gratitude

[naive sequoia]

I haven't have the time to watch the all

I only watched the Eden part because juicy Eden lore

[rigid mural]

The first 4 global seasons save for lightseekers seem to be about reuniting spirits scattered around the realms; confirmed in belonging and rythm. Perhaps it's the same for gratitude ?

[compact shale]

I guess so but at the same time

Internal Fruity: THATS BORING

[rigid mural]

Hmm ! Some realms didn't change much (prairie) but others can be completely different (isle).
Light Awaits also has alternative elder cutscenes for Dawn, Forest, Valley and Wastelands elders.

You can also finally see the constellations drawn on the stone slabs in some realms being used, the eel spirit had you run around the prairie caves gathering light like the manta spirit for example.

[naive sequoia]

Aww I remember Dawn!! Why'd they have to remove the shadow children sniff AND THE TURTLEEE even in the Season of Abyss they removed it

Old Isle was better imo, if only it didn't make phones explode

[rigid mural]

Perhaps it was a bit too crowded for a realm meant to represent the the alpha of a journey where everything is still just ideas written in the sand. I wish there was a way to get that sleepy desert charm with the exposition of LA dawn

[naive sequoia]

Also the path to Prarie was 👌 and the Wasteland Battlefield area was supposed to be the last area. The tension would've been nice but I can see why they move it to a safer spot

"It" being the elder meditation shrine

[stable veldt]

good day lorechat

[naive sequoia]

I can see how new players can be overwhelmed, especially the trials but oomph I hope we get another area like it one day!

I live for the ambiance

[rigid mural]

I know the Wind Paths are inspired by the Aviary from Light Awaits, so possible ! Maybe suggest that for an Isle season ?

[naive sequoia]

I can't help but feel that the Wind Paths falls a bit short compared to old aviary, then again Kingdom of Sky is supposed to have this sense of loneliness. Aviary looked sooooo much livelier, dynamic and colorful

IF ONLY IT DIDN'T MAKE PHONES EXPLODE

[stable veldt]

You know it's an old tradition for me to cook popcorns on the phone while playing wind paths just because it's very serene

[naive sequoia]

You could cook a crab on my phone

[rigid mural]

Ah... I really like the Wind Paths...

[naive sequoia]

Oh! I'm just saying it falls short for me

Please don't let my opinion define what you enjoy!

Oh! And the old portals felt more like shrines than a portal. It had a holy feel to it, I wish they kept it

[rigid mural]

Oh no I just thought that people liked them as much as I thought; the season finale was soured by the absence of the elder bird and the cutscene-skipping bugs that made you miss context, but I feel like the area itself was exactly what I wanted from Sky lol

[copper saffron]

I looked up light awaits and O-O the playthrough is 11 hrs long

[rigid mural]

Could use a few wall paintings here and there to cement the elder's influence but otherwise I can spend hours here.

[naive sequoia]

The elder bird in the promotion art? Yea :(( I wanted BIG fluffy bird but I guess small one on my head doesn't hurt to have

Yeah and more beautifully decorated wind chimes! Aviary felt more like a personalized home but Wind Paths is more of a highway so I can see why they had to remove the sense of home-ness

[rigid mural]

It can be a home by bird logic ! Got pretty good nesting sites.

[naive sequoia]

Imagine if an island on Wind Paths was a business oriented hub

profit

[stable veldt]

Most of these requests unfortunately would be pretty hard to implement, since TGC also have to think about graphic optimization and stuff. The current windpath already made phone explode, imagine every realm cooks your phone. Having detail as much as Sky: LA would be great, but tech limitation

[rigid mural]

Well, the spirit islands are, in a way; I'd see Talented Builder's being a stop for boats in need of some fixing.

[naive sequoia]

Something like a shop/trading center of sorts! Like Forgotten Ark shop but ISLAND and BIG

[rigid mural]

lbr android phones overheat just having the internet tab open, i don't think it's all Sky's fault

[naive sequoia]

Sadly, yes

One day... one day...

[naive sequoia]

What kinda android...??

Get some rest grandpa, it's time for an update

[stable veldt]

I do wonder how the hay they optimize all of that in genshin. Sky already has low res option, but still cooks phone. They should up their game

[naive sequoia]

Probably in code. Unoptimized code can lead to endless bugs, overheating, and phone lag

[uncut pond]

The clouds. I'm VERY sure it's the clouds that cause Sky's performance problems.

But fr tho, I've seen myself how absurdly expensive cloud shaders can be performance-wise, and on top of that Sky also makes the clouds change their forms as skids touch them and sometimes because of the winds (this is noticeable mostly in citadel, although you spend the whole time flying so you don't really notice it)

I'm just 101% sure the clouds are to blame for the performance problems.

... Oh wait this is lore chat...

[native shoal]

It’s too late the idea is already here

Welcome to lore chat lol

[boreal nebula]

It seems the flock of TriangleFish swim in a particular arch formation

[queen forum]

Hmmm, I just thought of a new thing to discuss. Is there a canon reason for how seasons work in the Sky universe? I mean, we know they’re coming cause there’s tons of buildup from the devs, but to Sky kids it would just seem like these new areas open up with no warning. Presumably the areas have always been there and just haven’t been accessible before now, but why is that? Does it take a certain number of Sky kids to exist? A certain number of kids saved through Eden? Or is the Megabird controlling it all and is unlocking these new areas whenever they feel the kids are ready to see more of this world?

[formal skiff]

Iirc the current theory is that as the storm retreats more areas become accessible, but that’s just a guess

[nimble ingot]

Triangle fish.
Interesting they looked like spades, hence why I called them spade fish ♠️

They could be similar to angelfish if we would like to compare them to real life fish, J am sure there are other similar candidates. 🐠

[nimble ingot]

It could be a matter of the clouds parting slowly and revealing new areas for skykids to explore.
Wheter it is the megabird or just a matter of how the climate is shifting is up for debate

[boreal nebula]

It mmay be a bit far fetched after all I dont see how the darK storm could have even affected non gloomy areas like Sanctuary or Wind Paths (Or Starlight Desert which as a door inside The solid walls of the Vault )

[queen forum]

I think Starlight deserts very existence and the little prince stuff is all like, level 2 canon. It may have happened, but at the same time, the desert could be another world in of itself, not completely connected to the outside one and it’s rules. Presumably, you could say someone like the little prince himself opened it up for us, which would bring in dozens of questions with no answers at the moment if we treated his character as fully canon in the Sky universe.

[boreal nebula]

Spades ... mmm m that would be very interesting name afterall ♠️

Spades Fish, then there are the long KnifeFish (Which look like salmons but coincidence is that me and another fare scholar there in Lore chat made the same meme with the Season of Abyss promotional art with Commodore holding Sword )

[boreal nebula]

Random Thought.. . what if it is all made up by Sneezing Scholar who - by reading/theorizing too much - didn't realized a purple light spell created this pocket dimension

[queen forum]

Turns out sneezing scholar is the most powerful spirit we’ve come across so far.

[formal skiff]

Yeah idk anything about that theory and I certainly haven’t looked into it, I was just passing on something I’d heard people consider

[native shoal]

I usually play with the sound off and I wonder if deaf skykids are a thing?

[soft timber]

It can probably happen, but it could be a personal preference for the player

[queen forum]

I once read a fanfic about a blind sky kid. Imagine trying to make it through an area based only in sound and your memorization of it alone.

[boreal nebula]

Working so hard
Drops a flask of purple spell from a shelf
🌌
Kept working

Picture uploaded by mistake

[compact shale]

It's also plausible that Lamplighter may be important to the realm's survival. If Starlight Desert is an elaborate illusion, it may be held together by the big lantern, which is why it has specific on-and-off protocols. (my HC is that the illusion can linger for ~30 when the lantern is off, and the lantern needs to be off sometimes because of overheating)

[queen forum]

Refuses to elaborate.

[compact shale]

PFP smiles creepily at you

[queen forum]

[thorny zealot]

I just see it as some sort of side story or quest, not related to the main part of the game.

[compact shale]

I guess so

the argument is whether it actually exists/is canon or not

HAHFHHH

out of all the "up-to-interpretations", the entie TLP is the most "up-to-interpretation" of them all

I think I'm biased based on what would look good in my fanfics HAHAHAHAHAHAH

[queen forum]

That makes sense. As I suggested, kind of a pocket universe.

[thorny zealot]

Mhm, it's own thing just for that little prince experience.

I really wish they would bring back things from light awaits or at least start using all this lore and concepts that have lying around.

[queen forum]

I’m sure they will…eventually.
Eventually.

[compact shale]

Some theorize that Flight did the former

[hushed steeple]

Still not as rich as aviary

[compact shale]

OH AVIARY

OH
OHHHHHH

[queen forum]

Did you have a revelation?

[carmine garnet]

Some sketch ideas for the prince.

[queen forum]

I like the lower sketches you made. It’s cool to imagine that they had that ring/crown on their heads at all times, and how it would make them look. Maybe one day we’ll even get a cosmetic like that ingame.

[carmine garnet]

I mean the closest thing we have is a special mask but I always like the look. And I really want to play into the star theme, thought still debating if it should float behind or right above the head

[soft timber]

How old does anybody think the songs given by spirits are? I realized how prominent music is to some of the spirits and they are willing to give us those pieces

[uncut pond]

Afaik there was an unused/scrapped cosmetic that was the King/Prince's crown, and the floating things were around and above the head iirc

[compact shale]

I don't know but I have tried to think about why the song is so important to them that they know it to heart

Edit: I slipped

[nimble ingot]

Either as far back as in Prophecy's time (as part of storytelling and/or rituals, as much as real life music has originated from).
Or as far as valley when it comes to orchestral music.

Come to think of it, would the instruments found in the season also corelate to the time periods?

We got a drum in Dawn, which ties into the primitive civilisation?
I may need to look up the instruments and compare to real life invention time periods.

[soft timber]

I do think the music and instruments would tie into both storytelling/rituals as well as time period that said music and instruments are from

Especially since we can see the progressiveness of the instruments, like how the earlier ones are more "primitive" than lets say something like a piano

[nimble ingot]

In African history, the bush people used to play instruments as a part of telling stories, for entertainment and also part of rituals.
By rituals it can be about a coming of age ceremony, a marriage, or an important event or means to speak with the ancestors (the dead) or god

[queen forum]

…Are we allowed to discuss beta stuff here? Cause if so, I have a point to add to that.

[soft timber]

True! In my grandmother's culture, there is a special kind of drum called the the pan drum that reflect the gentle yet joyful sound of the ocean as they parade around the country (it's a small island called Barbados) for Independence day and Harvest season

[nimble ingot]

Rather not, in passing a mention is more or less tolerated.
But discussing religions is a minefield in a generalised chat. Especially one that is not meant for serious discussions, there are younger users here as well as users that may take offence if any statements come across as offensive.

TLDR, be very careful when talking about real life topics.

[queen forum]

Well, there are also instruments that would be difficult to tie to any time period, like the new one introduced in flight. The Kalimba was a pretty modern instrument by most standards, but the one in Sky seems to be a pretty modified version. So stuff like that would be difficult to nail down.

Also, understood.

[soft timber]

Understood, I just want to know what other people think about the music and instruments used in Sky. I don't mean to take any offence, nor really touch up on religious topics myself

[queen forum]

Hm. Well, what’s the most modern instrument in the game at the moment?

[soft timber]

I wouldn't be able to tell as most of the instruments I know are relatively older, such as piano, harp, and drums

[nimble ingot]

The Kalimba, interestingly has some origins in Africa, as a modernised or alternate version of the mbira. The mbira is an instrument that two rows or metal prongs instead of one (which seems to be what the sky version is. a single rowed kalimba).

[queen forum]

So all the instruments seem to come from hundreds/thousands of years ago. No real modern ones yet.

[soft timber]

Most likely, tho the most modern looking one would be ones like the piano

[nimble ingot]

I may have to look that up real quick, though the most modern may be the winter piano (or the piano in general), the steel pan, or the kalimba.

[queen forum]

Pianos was invented by a guy in the 1600s.

The Steel pan seems to be discussed about, coming from either the early 1800s or sometime about the 1930s.

[soft timber]

Most likely yes, as I know they were around in the 1900s in Barbados

[queen forum]

The Kalimba…modern also comes from that time period, but the oldest versions seem to be from almost 3000 years ago, made of bamboo.

So it seems the Steel pan is likely the most modern, based on what you believe.

[soft timber]

Debatably yes, as since Barbados is a relatively new country

[native shoal]

There’s a rather modern looking acoustic guitar

[queen forum]

1830s.

[native shoal]

Yeah that makes sense, thought it was more modern

[uncut pond]

The piano in Sky seems to be a portable one, so probably not a real piano but rather an electronic(?) darkstone keyboard that emulates piano sounds

[queen forum]

It’s okay. A lot of these were olde than I thought as well.

[queen forum]

I’m now imagining the piano not being a real instrument but we just stumbled upon a toy for children like those electronic piano toys you see that make all sorts of sounds real pianos can’t. Would fit perfectly for Skids.

[rigid mural]

The cheerful spectator does seem to be a musician themselves, they hang out with the leaping dancer

[nimble ingot]

ok a rough time line of different instruments:
hand drum, nearly every culture made one in circa 6000 BC
Kalimba, circa 3000 years ago
Bells, the first bells documented were in west Africa circa 1000 BC
Xylophone, first mentioned in 1511
Piano, first invented in 1655
guitars originated in Spain in the 16th century
Ocarina, invented in 1853
Bugle, circa 1825
steel pan 1930s

Seeing the kalimba in forest and the steel pan in day have vastly different times of when they were invented, that pretty much obliterated my hypothesis of instruments existing in time according to the realm, which correlates to real life evolution.
Meaning, the instruments and their invention times do not match that of the realm you can find them in.
Especially with the steel pan being the most recent invention compared to other instruments, and the pan is found in Day (the second realm).

[sharp lichen]

Wait, isn’t the Kalimba found on Prophexy, the oldest season? Also, the steel pan was invented in the most modern-looking season,

[rigid mural]

Kalimba's from Flight iirc

[nimble ingot]

The kalimba is found in season of Flight.
The season of Prophecy is the drum

[queen forum]

So…does that mean that there is no correlation and there’s nothing to fine?

[sharp lichen]

Oh, I’m thinking of the long drum

[rigid mural]

I think the designers chose instruments that fit the vibe of the realm or season instead of chronologically fitting ones
Kalimba makes metallic noises like bells (we already got 3 of these from gratitude) for example.

[sharp lichen]

And remember, the Sky world’s technology does not have to exactly match the real world’s. If ANYONE says that sanctuary isn’t canon because 1930, I will eat a crab

[rigid mural]

The harp in prairie can be heard in the village's theme too, and the handpan can be heard in the sanctuary theme outside the caves.
Perhaps instruments fit what song plays in that realm ?

[queen forum]

Sanctuary isn’t canon because 1930.

[queen forum]

That would make sense. The songs of each realm could correspond to what kind of music was popular there.

[rigid mural]

Or it could fit the mood; the horn instrument and the wasteland's mournful songs do fit battlefields

[queen forum]

I wonder the horn served numerous purposes than just a instrument. Like, it could have been used as a war horn in the wasteland before battles.

[rigid mural]

oh, definitely, lookout scout uses it to warn whoever is behind them that they saw something

[native shoal]

I always saw the horn as a war horn/whatever it’s called when it’s used for warning that the skykids just looked at and went ‘instrument!’

[rigid mural]

I find it kind of poetic it is also one of the best instruments to play the meme part of careless whispers (even tho the song is about cheating but the meme is for romantic stuff so...)

[nimble ingot]

yup.
If the realms were to present different time period in chronological order (from oldest to latest civilisation), the instruments do not follow this exactly.

The realm may still follow that trend, however it may not apply to every aspect in it, such as the instruments one can find in them.
Regardless if the spirit represents another realm, or may have brought the instrument from another realm, the time line of instruments being invented may not apply to the time periods the realms may draw inspiration from.

[queen forum]

Well.
Even if it didn’t turn out to be the case, at least that’s that question answered.
For now…

[final mist]

Technology wise, i also want to mention that sky’s weapon technology jumped 600 human years from using catapult in wasteland to cannoneer’s cannon in Abyss.

I was a bit confused on where season of Abyss is in sky’s timeline.

Abyss area’s facilities are also a lot more advanced in technology compare to other realms i think

[carmine garnet]

I think abyss is suppose to take place way after, considering their search ruins for the gems

[rigid mural]

i feel like cannoneer is using a harpoon

[nimble ingot]

With the fact there is a flying stone boat in every realm, we can pretty much toss out most of comparing sky to real life on a one-to-one basis XD.
Even if we factor in these objects can be transported around the realms, thus making it nearly impossible to pinpoint when what was made.

Like 0506 (I think that is your name?) said, the catapult also shift things around a bit.

[final mist]

Haha yes that’s me

And agree

[queen forum]

Yeah. Basically scavengers in the apocalypse sorta feel to it.

[queen forum]

If we count the cannon as a harpoon gun, those were made in 1731…still a big difference between catapults.

[nimble ingot]

You made me look up the difference between a spear gun and a harpoon.

while a spear gun is used to fire small barbed spears underwater, the harpoon can be used above water and used in hunting down large marine creatures like whales.

The cannoneer may be a hidden nod to the white whale called Moby D-[censored name] by Charles Dickenson.
Seeing they were either after or destined to tussle with a large beast of the sea, and has a weapon known to be associated with hunting large sea creatures.

Canoneer is the sky version of Captian Ahab!

[rigid mural]

I like to think they were both a harpoon wielder and a cannoneer; in life they may have operated cannons for an army or pirates, but now they are being a menace with a harpoon.

[final mist]

Cannoneer’s spear gun/ harpoon thing can strike into rock😹

[queen forum]

It all makes sense now. Canoneer wasn’t hunting after resources, they were hunting the Leviathan, just like Ahab was chasing after that big white whale.

[nimble ingot]

In a clip of forbidden beta (you know what I am talking about), it was once considered that a canon would be in the Abyss area, and likely would have been used to blow open the doors to the tower.

[nimble ingot]

That or so determined to get the diamond resources to win the favour of the captain.
Either way, it is a very on the nose reference once it has been revealed XD

[queen forum]

Gods, that would have been days of endless discussion here.

[native shoal]

Maybe the only reason there’s more advanced stuff in Abyss is that it survived underwater? And you don’t exactly have any strong water currents wearing away at it so it was preserved?

[queen forum]

Perhaps? Unfortunately, that could only be speculation at the moment, since we don’t really have any other underwater area ruins to base it off of.

[final mist]

I thought it was flooded, but when i looked into the murals, it seems the site had been built underwater from the beginning?

(I am sorry i changed the topic from music!!!)

[queen forum]

I think some of it was, at least. Take the drop off into the abyss part of the area. If it wasn’t underwater, then that would be a giant cliff just sitting there that any fool could come too close to and slip in.

But.

[rigid mural]

cannoneer pretending that their sidecut is because they fought a bear mermaid but the truth is probably far more dumb yet still as wild and miraculous of a survival

[queen forum]

There are stairs in numerous places in the underwater area. And if it was all meant to be underwater, then those stairs would be pointless as you would just be swimming everywhere anyway. So I think it was partly underwater, partly above water.

[final mist]

Maybe thats the reason why every crew member’s mask are cracked

[final mist]

Maybe like it was built underwater, but no water inside the facilities.

Like sea tunnels

[queen forum]

They did a little William Tell with harpoons instead of arrows.

[nimble ingot]

I had a theory that the island used to be floating and was above the water (if not on the surface), then when the dark stone was mined out, the island started sinking.

[queen forum]

So it was all naturally above the ground at some point?

[final mist]

I saved this pic from the channel because it was very well captured, but i forgot who took this🙏🏻

I think it was underwater when the mural was done from the ^^^^

[queen forum]

Oh, they’re standing! Good eye.

And the manta cages have bubbles in them but nowhere else does. For that confirm it?

[final mist]

Manta cage got water in it, and bubbles to let mantas breath( they need to breath!?

[queen forum]

I think they do need to breathe, considering we see them primarily above the water.

[nimble ingot]

In theory, yes.

There are floating islands in the realms, especially in Day.
With the fact that we know ancestors are not able to breathe under water and the interior of the structures have stairs, and are now flooded. One can theorise that the island used to be above the water.

It is still a rough theory and needs more evidence to support it outside of what the Abyss season has provided.

[final mist]

And seems they can survive even without food, and wont age, they have been held in cages for a very long time till skykids arrive

[final mist]

Interesting

I am about to go to bed. It has been a pleasure chatting with you guys:)

🐠🐟🐡

[nimble ingot]

Sweet dreams, and may the long whale never haunt your dreams.

[queen forum]

Hmmm…okay, I think I have it figured out. Not just this, but the whole Abyss story. So originally, like Raider suggested, the islands were floating on the water and were there. The people came, built the underwater structures free of water, and did their thing. But they left the places with the coral and the grass full of water, because otherwise why would that giant door to the aquarium be there if there wasn’t water around it to get the Leviathan in? Basically, everything natural and green we see was flooded, everything built was dry and they likely had some kind of mechanism to keep it that way. But then the apocalypse comes, everyone dies, those mechanism fails, and the whole thing goes underwater/is flooded. Whoopsies daisies. It’s the consequences of our actions.

Anyway, a while later the Abyss crew arrives, some survivors of the end, to mine the remaining dark crystals still under the water for energy and all that. They go around, so some stuff, and the quest spirit goes the way we did this season, accidentally releasing the Leviathan and all that. (This goes back to our discussion yesterday.) Cackling Cannoneer wants to find more resources and goes super deep to find them. They get trapped, guide quest goes to find them, but the big boi eats them both, and they’re digested/taken over by darkness and die. They crew mourns, but eventually have to move on. Sad times all around, but that’s the cruel reality of a post apocalyptic world.

Enters us, a long time later. We gain access to the Abyss area and do everything guide quest did, only this time with our trusty candle we change their memories, free the spirits, and banish the Leviathan back to whatever ditch on the side of the road it crawled out of. The spirits, now free to reunite, are finally able to ascend, and do so hastily now that we’ve freed them all.

The
End.

[final mist]

Hahaha i love this, good night everyone

[final mist]

My brain crashed by spirit and skykids timelines

[queen forum]

Hehe. But does this all seem likely? I think it fits with what we’ve come up with so far.

[final mist]

Yea it makes sense

[queen forum]

Yay.

[native shoal]

I wonder how flexible skykids are?

[nimble ingot]

As in, can they do the splits?

[native shoal]

Just in general, I imagine they aren’t too bendy

They can probably touch their toes

[queen forum]

I guess that depends on how you think their body works. We’re limited by how far we can stretch our limbs by our bones and muscles, so…do they have bones or not? Or is there something else?

[native shoal]

I imagine they’re limited by their shell, don’t wanna bend too far and tear it

[carmine garnet]

Yeah, i mean their pretty active and can do splits in the air, but i don't think their main torso can bend as much

[rigid mural]

Festival Spin Dancer does teach us some sick moves tbh, so Sky children probably have the potential

[native shoal]

I hope spin dancer comes back soon, that was the TS when I first joined and I want the leveled emotes

[queen forum]

Sky kid yoga, held every day at noon in the center of the Valley ice rink.

[rigid mural]

Stretching Guru rn:

[nimble ingot]

I think Skykids are pretty flexible if they can do splits like these.

[native shoal]

True

[queen forum]

Does any wackiness that happens to their bodies with a glitch near other people count? I assume it wouldn’t…

[native shoal]

What I was mostly referencing was flexibility in the torso, like how far can they turn to the side without moving their legs

[rigid mural]

sorry but this is such a cute idea

[nimble ingot]

As funny as it would be. Yeah no, broken skykids with scoliosis, owl syndrome or the more common twisted torso bug does not count.

[queen forum]

Without bones, I imagine they could turn turn as far as their skin would allow without it ripping, like you mentioned with the “shell”. Probably a little more than what a normal human could do.

[nimble ingot]

we need an emote with more yoga exercises.
like the up and down one, the balance poses and even that pretzel one would be funny.

[rigid mural]

pro fingers, anti mouth and anti bones

[formal skiff]

This. Out of context.

[queen forum]

“Come on, kids! We need to get big and strong to fight off those nasty Krill! One, two, three, four!”

[native shoal]

Imagine wasteland elder teaching sky kids how to work together to take down Krill

Also I noticed with the giant spell you don’t seem to grow that much if you’re already tall? And the spell description says you become an adult so do sky kids max out at like 4’6”?

[queen forum]

They open their mouth and there’s just dozens of bones stored inside. Moths hide many secrets.

[rigid mural]

there are spell descriptions ??? also you may have been using a max height spell instead, giant spells are different

[native shoal]

You talking about Teeth? Teeth are bones

[queen forum]

More like they used their mouth to store all kinds of bones like something out of Junji Ito.

[formal skiff]

Oh no

[queen forum]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[queen forum]

I really wish that spell was more common.

[native shoal]

See? Not much difference, second image is with grow spell and third image is without

Someone nearby thought it was an actual height spell and started clapping

I guess skids are just short by nature, that’s like a half head difference I think

[queen forum]

Megabird wanted to make us as adorable as possible, it seems.

[rigid mural]

so max size skids are almost done growing up ? thats hilarious to think adult sky folks are still really small

[native shoal]

If someone can get the actual height of that it would be nice

They’re under 5’0”, probably 4’4” by estimation alone

[queen forum]

I wonder if there is an actual purpose to us always being small, though. Is it just to reach everywhere since if we were too big some places wouldn’t be accessible? Or is it because kids are more innocent than adults and we wouldn’t make the same mistakes they did?

[native shoal]

I think it’s because small=easier flight

[rigid mural]

sparrow shaped

[formal skiff]

I think it’s because smol = cute

[nimble ingot]

"Sorry, you have to be this tall to ride this ride"
Imagine the struggle of skykids wishing there is a mask to bring them to max height, similar to there being a chibi mask.

[native shoal]

That is a good idea

[queen forum]

I had a similar idea! My friends and I called it the “Titan Mask.”

[formal skiff]

“Big Kid Mask” lol
Ride person: you’ve got to be this tall to ride
Skid, livid: I’M A BIG KID NOW!!!

[native shoal]

It would cost about the same as a chibi mask? Maybe 5 hearts more?

[nimble ingot]

Mega-Mask

[native shoal]

Maybe it takes you over max height

[nimble ingot]

It would 200% likely be a season thing. If it was exclusive, there would be 300% be riots.

A big mask will have to be included for a very good reason though.

[queen forum]

I assume it would cost a lot more, since it’s easier to become chibi with spells than gigantic.

[nimble ingot]

That or just bring you up to the max height, or adult height.
It may as well be a crown, so that it can be paired up with different masks, since the chibi mask tends to take up the spot for other masks.

[queen forum]

Ooh, you know, a classic crown would actually make sense! Since the giant jellyfish we see in Eden have crowns on them.

[native shoal]

A neat penalty story wise would be that it requires a wing wedge to wear? So you have 11 and out it ok so you can only use 10, this would work especially well if the crown is made of darkstone. All the spirits with text who think you’re an adult comment that you’re short lol

[queen forum]

The Season of Size!

[nimble ingot]

Season of Heights

[carmine garnet]

I saw some fanart and i don't even think the king grew up, i think he still stayed kid size but was built a different body to poilet to act as king

[native shoal]

Maybe that’s the flashback season people have mentioned wanting that shows the kingdom in it’s prime? You gotta look like an adult to blend in maybe

[queen forum]

Basically like a mech suit, then?

[carmine garnet]

Concept art, and I’m upclose of the king

[nimble ingot]

@carmine garnet beat me to it!

@rigid mural Thanks! XD XD That made my day. ❤️

[keen shore]

Alternate to this is that the trials are clearly built for someone our size, implying that unless the trials changed for us specifically, some spirits were jsut too tall to enter them

[native shoal]

You must be this short to ride this ride

[carmine garnet]

so yeah, king was really a mech and a chaotic sky kid was control it

[queen forum]

That would make for an interesting “final battle” of sorts. We have to fight the corrupted King, but after we reach him it’s revealed that he’s just the same size as us, nothing but a child, and maybe we hug him like we do our soul in Eden after dying, and that’s how we heal him. Or something along those lines.

[rigid mural]

barbie cars

[nimble ingot]

Of course, something along the lines of what the concept art was hinting at and what little info the Light Awaits version seemed to be heading towards.

[carmine garnet]

yeah either that or we free him, sense we never see the princes mask corrupt, just the adult king mask so maybe he's trap in the king as the darkness ravages eden

[queen forum]

Mmm. But that wouldn’t happen now, right? I believe it was said that the Eden Elder, assuming they are truly the same person, can’t really be saved anymore.

[nimble ingot]

Why do I get the image of the car chase in the Boss Baby? XD

[carmine garnet]

I'm sorry, this world is angsty enough, i want everyone to be saved

[rigid mural]

ok ok but

[nimble ingot]

A very valid point XD

[sinful crystal]

are those the abyss gems lying on a counter in one of the assembly cabins? (the forest brook one)

[foggy lotus]

mayhaps

[nimble ingot]

those are power diamonds, or "resources" as the game dubiously calls them.

[dapper star]

sky lore is WILD

[quasi wigeon]

ooooo

[quasi wigeon]

Sky "resources" Chaos Crystals Confirmed???

[nimble ingot]

so far, the game calls it 'resources.'
In concept art, it could have been called Batteries, power diamonds, crystals or even darkstone.

[spark cairn]

I can only assume the assembly kids got that from the door thing they took

[nimble ingot]

huh, that is interesting....

[keen shore]

is this the sky version of stealing road signs off the side of the road
edit: thankyou vol for the confirmation

[nimble ingot]

Did they try to make their own door with a diamond switch?
Or did they take one and taken the diamond out?

[keen shore]

Oohhh neat, more possible confirmation that abyss and assembly take place at roughly the same time!

[rigid mural]

ancestors living in a post apocalyptic world themselves theory intensifies

[keen shore]

The moth looks so angry… I am in tears
Also I love the implication that the rhythm spirits bring around a wooly manta just for people too short to ride the eagle… is this why the rhythm guide wasn’t riding on the eagle in the final cutscene? they had to put them on the baby ride because they were too short?

[dapper star]

yo what if time has stopped in the sky world lol

[spark cairn]

The real question is how'd they not get caught dragging that thing around

[nimble ingot]

Same way kids get away with stealing shopping carts and turning them into racing trollies.

[keen shore]

No one can catch you for your crimes if everyone but you and your small band of scouts is dead

[rigid mural]

not a size thing but it was their turn on it ig; silver lining is that it's dyed rainbow

[compact shale]

Today I came in and learned that the Assembly Kids have committed crimes!

Wonderful!

[keen shore]

You didn’t know this already? /j

[compact shale]

I knew they had diamonds, but not HOW

[rigid mural]

sky children commit arson all the time, i thought we were over kids commiting crimes /j

[queen forum]

Sky kids are pyromaniacs confirmed…which isn’t even that much of a joke, it’s practically canon.

[keen shore]

I have been Thinking about this theory, because it works for an odd amount of base game spirits, I will get my thoughts together and post about it when more energy and motivation

[sinful crystal]

ooh maybe

[hushed steeple]

There is a map inside of the main tree house, its of the entire hidden forest(or at least the main path. It had all three other tree houses marked on it, this is the symbol for the second tree house.

[carmine garnet]

Would sky kids squeak or honk if you hugged them to tight?

[queen forum]

Squeak like squeaky toys.

[native shoal]

I think they would honk

[carmine garnet]

Ether way they make a noise?

[formal skiff]

Yes

[tranquil harbor]

honk. Possibly squeek if they had a voice like baby manta

[formal skiff]

Squeak-honk. Squonk??

[carmine garnet]

They would also make that noise if you surprised them

[queen forum]

I wonder if hugging one would actually burn you. Would they be warm like an electric blanket or something? Or actually super hot to the touch? Considering there is fire inside them.

[carmine garnet]

I feel like they would be warm, tho not super hot. Whatever their body is made of has to be somewhat to keep the heat in. Otherwise they would immediately lose all their light stepping out into ran

[queen forum]

That’s true. Plus if they were that hot, the second they dove into water it would start to visibly boil.

[carmine garnet]

Yep. The fact they can drive proves it keeps their light protected but considering they have a light glow they likely fall under the warm idea

[compact shale]

The fact we can drive...?

[carmine garnet]

Dive, ignore the autocorrect

[compact shale]

Fruity is going to test your car to see if a skykid's proximity melts or burns it.

[dapper star]

LMAOOOOO SKYKID CARS

[queen forum]

Skids driving abilities would only extend to bumper cars at amusement parks, I imagine.

[compact shale]

I feel like if there were multiple species crossover, and it was cold, everyone would hug the skykid, much to their delight/chagrin

I think skykids have the potential to be as hot as radiators

[queen forum]

Like that scene in Big Hero 6 where Baymax heats himself up and literally everyone just walks over and leans on him. Sky kids becomes the communal pillow on cold nights.

[carmine garnet]

Like even crabs like them because their warm

[compact shale]

I was thinking of a scene I saw about the reverse

A bunch of characters are in a lava planet, so everyone hugs the one with internal aircon to cool down

[queen forum]

The true reason why Crabs ram into us. Their shells protect them from anything, but that includes heat or cold temperatures. By ramming into us and stealing a small sliver of our light, they can feel that warmth they usually can’t.

[compact shale]

Creb: I WANMA FEEL SOMETHING *bonk

[queen forum]

Exactly.

[carmine garnet]

If only creb was smarter sky kids would adopt them and they can feel all the warmth

[queen forum]

Well…at least those three being roasted above the fire are getting all the warmth they want.
…
Ba dum, tss.

[carmine garnet]

They were very mean crebs. Imagine some elders going to check on some baby sky kids and a group of crebs have cuddled on top of them

[queen forum]

A Crab blanket!

[carmine garnet]

Like how cats do sometimes

[rigid mural]

the idea that followed reading this was too precious

[carmine garnet]

Yesssss. Maybe that’s why so many can stay in the cold valley, the just radiate heat

[queen forum]

Ah, it’s adorable.

[compact shale]

Where'd you get the disturbing dream from

[rigid mural]

TS hints

[rigid mural]

kids DREAM of a creature they can magically tame with the power of their love, i bet some skids would successfully tame some crabs if thats the case

[keen shore]

are the skykids hugging them to calm them down, or do they all pile on top of the current ts to sleep for warmth and they are just waking up?
both ideas are 💛

[rigid mural]

honestly, both

[queen forum]

Pet Crabs would be the best thing ever. The emote actually being a thing would be amazing.

[rigid mural]

i think players would grief eachother by flipping them, so we need sky kids to learn how to flip a crab back on its feet

[sharp lichen]

Pet Crabs would be cool until you realize you can sic moths with them

[keen shore]

I can totally see skykids piling on top of each other to sleep in order to conserve heat and light… one of them wanted to cuddle the spirit and then the rest just saw their friend and piled on top of them

[rigid mural]

but that would be the best part, i love going to the forest temple and grab the crab there, if you wait long enough it flips back up in your hands, so the rest is a matter of aiming right...

[queen forum]

Reminds me of something I saw at Petsmart. It was puppy day where they present a bunch of puppies to give away, and when they wanted to go to sleep they literally all got in a giant pile on top of each other. Cutest thing ever.

[rigid mural]

crab sniping is such an hilarious way to surprise randos (please dont do it more than once or twice on the same player tho)

[keen shore]

we should be able to crab snipe the elders I think. Out of love

[queen forum]

We snipe the King and that’s how we “defeat” him.

[rigid mural]

i want to crab snipe the dawn elder, they'd crumble to dust i think

[sharp lichen]

I’d rather punt crabs, they’re mean

[queen forum]

Yes, but the Crabs we’re talking about are sweethearts inside, and all they need is a little love.

[rigid mural]

trolling grandpa

[keen shore]

this is why all the eldars are dead 💔

[rigid mural]

resh got obliterated by a crab

[keen shore]

Bold of you to assume resh isn’t the one doing the crab obliterating

[rigid mural]

Resh can't govern a kindgom right, i dont think he can handle crabs well enough to accomplish this

[fickle wing]

adds crab to the reasons why daleths mask is cracked list

[queen forum]

It’s the Crabs world, we just live in it.

[keen shore]

I think there is only one option left for the crab obliterater then… I don’t want to say who it is because I know they will send the crabs after me

[rigid mural]

i would never !

[keen shore]

HEY WAIT A MINUTE

[queen forum]

Resh just sends out Crabs to smite people he doesn’t like from afar.

[keen shore]

it’s why there’s crabs in the valley temple and nowhere else in valley (the twins got crabbed)

[queen forum]

They must have been ambushed.

[boreal nebula]

@queen forum Took my time to draw that random "What If..."

I hope it in clear enough : ||a flask of Purple Light (Mind / Imagionation) resonating with Sneezing's thoughts/dreams||

[jade bone]

Maybe they were to busy fighting against each other that they didn't notice the crabs

[queen forum]

And what were the fighting over? Ironically, who got to defeat the Crabs first.

[keen shore]

it’s what the catapult in wasteland is for… you stick a crab in there, aim it for the direction of whoever you want to crab, and let it fly

[queen forum]

Oh, it’s beautiful.

[queen forum]

Imagine the mathematics involved so that the Crabs they launched hit the person they were aiming for at the exact right moment.

[keen shore]

The other crabs were the scouting system (to make sure they got the timing and aiming right) this is why there are so many crabs near the ark

[hushed steeple]

Happy for lack of crab pile to catch your kid midair

[queen forum]

The Crabs were actually controlling the whole Kingdom from the shadows like the Wizard of Oz or something.

[rigid mural]

birth of the desert cosmic manta

[formal skiff]

What people think happens in lore chat:

• philosophical debates
• huge daily lore realizations
• all the answers
• big brain

What actually happens in lore chat:

• salami
• furries
• crabs
• wooly mantas

[keen shore]

@rigid mural is this true

[rigid mural]

no comment

[keen shore]

Correction: both of these lists happen, sometimes simultaneously

[hushed steeple]

You actually do eventually get all the answers but after that everyone is bored of answers and does whatever they want instead.

[queen forum]

Yeah. I’ve been talking here for only a day or so, and I’ve seen both craziness and conversations straight out of a college lecture room…happening at the same time, like Salem said. It’s fun.

[rigid mural]

im not crab whisperer

[tranquil harbor]

sure you're not

[boreal nebula]

Idk how Vela's drawings make me think my randoms ideas are simple... And yet I took hours to draw that

And I'm kind of stuck to my Egyptian silhouette style. My original idea was about pushing the flask with elbow... And anatomy is completely out of my league 😅

[foggy lotus]

i have come up with another stupid lil creature
light cats (i am so sorry)

[compact shale]

Creepy PSA version when

[boreal nebula]

PSA?

[queen forum]

Public service announcement?

[queen forum]

Don’t feel sorry, it’s adorable.

[raw crypt]

KITTY

[native shoal]

Small mouse light creature, I just think it would be neat

You would be able to see them scurry in the grass and they would slowly recharge your light if you’re grounded.

Imagine little desert mice in wasteland near the structures

[keen shore]

l…light ferret…

[tranquil harbor]

We have rats and they're called crabs

[carmine garnet]

… sky kids are so drawn to light they want to pounce on it…they are cats

[keen shore]

miaow

[tranquil harbor]

I really love rock rat, but for serious, I think crabs are the 'rats' of the sky kingdom. You see them everywhere you expect to see a rat. It's fully blown theory for me

[queen forum]

Sky kids with cat ears…

[carmine garnet]

Elder gets a laser pointer to entertain sky babies

[queen forum]

Haha. You know, even if they weren’t cat-sky kids, I’m sure they would chase after the laser pointer anyway.

[compact shale]

laser pen? HONK HONK HONKHONKH ONK

[pastel brook]

[queen forum]

Eyes widen.

[carmine garnet]

Ok. But the valley elders would throw the other at the window to get that lazer

Like ‘it’s mine!’ Type fighting

[uncut pond]

I tried

[queen forum]

Yes.

[carmine garnet]

I mean yea. Cause also sky kids continue to honk to get you’re attention, much like cats and their meows

[queen forum]

Catkids!

[compact shale]

I think the baby manta call is the most meow-like we have so far

[tranquil harbor]

we sound like a kitten

[foggy lotus]

Finally, something good from my furry phase (can draw animal ears easily)

[queen forum]

It looks perfect! Very cute Catkid.

[native shoal]

Thought that was fully a screenshot for a second

[foggy lotus]

you wish/j

[uncut pond]

TGC needs to add more animal themed cosmetics... No, a whole season about animals! no gratitude doesn't count

[compact shale]

Propheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[tranquil harbor]

I want to see more animals than mantas, crabs, jellyfish, and butterflies. And fish I guess. Like, give us stuff

[compact shale]

Yeah

the range of animal masks we have implies that those animals existed before, WE NEED THEMMMM

[uncut pond]

Prophecy doesn't count either
I'm talking about one where we also get stuff like pants and hairs themed around animals
Masks are cool and all but I want more stuff like the Dreams ults

[sharp lichen]

Considering how they upscale krills, I’m horrified to see how they would adapt tarantulas into Sky

[undone trench]

New season idea, it's on forest and its a swamp, the enemies is a giant spider, Goodluck

[cobalt palm]

Earth prophet wants a word

[tranquil harbor]

For real we need more pants. Dream pants are the best pants because they have a variety of details and colors. We need more pants like dream pants

[foggy lotus]

that mask gives me nightmares

[native shoal]

Giant Enemy Spider

[uncut pond]

I want the default pants that Cannoneer has
And also the ones spirits like fainting soldier has

[queen forum]

The new area is just a cave covered with spider webs…and the darkness spiders spawn in randomly and there’s no telling when.

[tranquil harbor]

I'd commit a crime

[compact shale]

Fun fact! There's actually concept art of a giant spider being in Sky! It was supposed to be an elder!

[foggy lotus]

OH GOD

[tranquil harbor]

Wasn't that when the elders were boss monsters though? (I wonder how we would have defeated them... Would we have been able to attack or would it have been 'run away and solve puzzles during openings' type combat)

[cobalt palm]

I see no problem here 🤣

[compact shale]

I have no idea but it's so cool

[queen forum]

Found it!

[foggy lotus]

WHY HUMAN ARMS AND LEGS
JSNXBDCHUHIECJHKJDEIHIED

[compact shale]

Bonus: the origin of the furry teth joke

[queen forum]

It’s from this tweet! https://mobile.twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1284977311209492480

[cobalt palm]

Spider hands, spider hands, it's a spider, but with some hands
Watch out it's spider haaaannnnddddssssss

[queen forum]

Seriously, though. Some of those concept arts look like they would fit in a Silent Hill game.

[compact shale]

OH NO

[undone trench]

It's dark, you see two arms and think " oh hey, an elder " you take your candle to see around and boom, it's that spider

[cobalt palm]

Also the far left one reminds me of depictions of the elder things from mountains of madness

[queen forum]

Also, on the bottom left, we’re going inside a blue whale for some reason. I guess it was a form of transport?

[uncut pond]

Judging by some of Tom Zhao's concept art (I believe), I would assume they would be defeated in the same way as the leviathan/king krill:

Commiting arson

[compact shale]

There's an entire concept art of what is basically whale-shaped flying trains

[cobalt palm]

OMG whale says "teths friend" on its label

[queen forum]

Early Sky really was just:

[raw crypt]

i remember seeing concept art of the crabs we see in the switch trailer resembling more of spiders/concept tsadi (down to arms for spider legs) but! i do not have instagram and i lost the link

[native shoal]

Crebs

[undone trench]

Wish we had some more strong fragments of the old sky concept art and things, it all looked soo cool

[cobalt palm]

I like the idea of one of the temples standing up and being a lion

[uncut pond]

Don't worry, all the old stuff seems to be slowly but surely coming back

At this rate we might have a season in Eden someday

[sharp lichen]

Will an Eden season even be a good idea?

[queen forum]

Yeah…and now I have a question for everyone. Based on what we’ve seen in these concept arts, would you guys have preferred the current version of Sky, or this earlier version where we full-on confront the King and have bosses and all that?

[undone trench]

Old sky version, I want to see the king

[uncut pond]

They're two completely different vibes and stories, I wouldn't say I prefer one over the other

I just wish we had both

[sharp lichen]

That’s a good question: we’re not sure how well the old Sky concepts are executed, but there is something exciting about the King. However, I find it more interesting that the King is a figure who’s already passed

[queen forum]

Yeah, I guess I have to agree. I love what we have, but all this concept art has made me so dang curious.

[tranquil harbor]

I like this version best. Our kids are kids, they shouldn't be fighting monsters and constantly running for their lives. It's refreshing to have kid heroes not actually fighting a war. Hell, 'Eden isn't in their job description and they went there for their own reasons' is a plausible theory, so they might not have ever been supposed to experience danger at all

[compact shale]

I have work on a Sky combat system jfhdsfhan

:3

[cobalt palm]

I kinda like the king and some other elements being implied by the architecture and environments, if they were just a character, idk feels like there would be less to speculate on

[queen forum]

Show us, pls.

[sharp lichen]

A Sky combat system is interesting: do you have it planned out for Sky itself, or a ficverse?

[foggy lotus]

Little Nightmares, Sally Face, and other games i cant think of atm:

[uncut pond]

Sky combat really would be just commiting arson with candles lol

[sharp lichen]

It depends. For example Ancestor combat would look different from Elder combat, which wouldn’t compare to Skykid combat

[compact shale]

Ficverse/alternate game

@queen forum lol

[tranquil harbor]

The more I think about it, the funnier the Eden cycle not being something the kids are meant to do gets. Megabird and the elders are just like 'wait, where are they going, no, stop, that's dangerous' at increasing volumes of worry

[undone trench]

Thinking of a skykid throwing hands with a full on krill makes me laugh

[cobalt palm]

I like the idea of tying krill in knots by flying rings around them, that's my kinda sky combat

[queen forum]

Ooh, I like it. And I like all the “bonk” attacks.

[tranquil harbor]

summoner class? 👀

[sharp lichen]

To me: Skykids should be defensive and non-fatal, using their spells and tools for distraction or disarmament. Ancestors, on the other hand, are free reign- I’d like to imagine the Prophets as being powerful magic users

[soft timber]

I really like this!

[compact shale]

you can summon creatures to be your allies

[queen forum]

I had a fic I’m writing include a Sky kid fighting a Krill one on one…and they somehow won.

[uncut pond]

Flight-based combat? Now THAT'S some really cool concept

Imagine you summon spells by creating drawings with your flight trail, similar to how you draw your attacks in Okami

[cobalt palm]

Imagine being able to summon a giant manta like in season of flight to clear darkness

[uncut pond]

YEAH

[tranquil harbor]

Things I like:

• Implications that the fireworks staff is the sky equivalent to a flare gun, but the kid's unique relationship with light means they can (and do) turn it into a toy
• Sky kids realizing they can use it to bonk things that are mean to them

[compact shale]

Sparkler level 4 can also be used to draw

[queen forum]

Sky kids: See stick like object. Their brains: Immediately goes to bonk.

[uncut pond]

they honk
they bonk
but most importantly:

I don't know what else rhymes with bonk and honk lol

[boreal nebula]

By Sky combact system you mean moves from Offer Candle to Piggy Back & Piggy Rocket ? All used to get stronger bond with your friends

Till you pierce through their heart "hard shell" and you become BFF

[undone trench]

If krills only had a heat based or light based vision a skykid could well possibly win a fight with only a firework staff, use the staff itself as a hitting tool and use the fireworks as decoy

[compact shale]

crab summoning

[tranquil harbor]

Krills seem to prioritize the thing with the most light though. Which, is probs game mechanic but still

[undone trench]

How many fireworks would it take to make the strength of a skykid light

[boreal nebula]

They Hjönk?! ||No idea where it comes from, but I saw in sky-memes ages ago||

[queen forum]

Yeah…which reminds me of something I’ve been wondering about. Krills are totally deaf or just uninterested in noise, right? Because no matter how much noise we make, they never care if we’re not in their light beam.

[tranquil harbor]

Considering our kids are super batteries and the firework staff cooldown? too many

[cobalt palm]

Yes, crab cosmetics... Become crab... Be accepted into crab society

[tranquil harbor]

It's possible they're deaf ye

[queen forum]

Crab People, Crab People…

[undone trench]

Well, if we can't distract a Krill with a single normal firework staff, we just need to get isle elder's one

[sharp lichen]

Isle Elder’s staff summons birds, not fireworks, doesn’t it? It’ll still work

[cobalt palm]

I still want a prairie elder butterfly pot

[compact shale]

it would be an ultimate summon weapon, not an ultimate warrior weapon

[queen forum]

Summon the birds to peck at the Krill and distract it. It could never fail.

[undone trench]

With enough birds we can make krill's system go haywire

[uncut pond]

Even better, birds are light creatures so they'll actually get Krill's attention

[queen forum]

And next time we summon a Whale that smacks the Krill into another Realm entirely.

[tranquil harbor]

Sacrifice the birds to the all mighty krill lul

Summoning kids would need the ability to summon their creatures outside of just where they are

[uncut pond]

Krill vs whale top 10 epic anime battles

[boreal nebula]

It exists already A crab themed cosmetic. Spoiler because it was in an Event I don't know if will repeat ||There is a crabtrick hat cosmetic spell, you have "crabstone" on the head and can bury yourself with it... Till you can jump out to surprise someone: ||

[foggy lotus]

i apologize

[queen forum]

[cobalt palm]

Yes I still have a few of those spells left over, just waiting until everyone has forgotten so I can pull them out

[undone trench]

I wish those spells where in ark

[stable mauve]

what season you all think that has the best contribution in the main lore?

[undone trench]

Prophecy or ark

[sharp lichen]

Prophecy or Abyss!

[tranquil harbor]

Prophecy

[queen forum]

Yeah, Prophecy gave us so much with the paintings on the walls.

[boreal nebula]

It will never be forgotten (I hope)

[sharp lichen]

The thing is: Prophecy’s murals aren’t definitive, while the murals on Abyss give so much information on power diamonds. Both are equal contributors to the Sky lore!

[stable mauve]

oh prophecy? tbh, i didnt understand prophecy’s lore cause I didnt pat attention to the walls ( i dont clearly understand the paintings ). all i know was, they inspired other Spirits to cAlM dOwN

[undone trench]

Abyss has more murals than the ones at the entry of Big Guy's observatory?

[sharp lichen]

The spirits died!

[tranquil harbor]

Prophecy gave us the basic background of the lore. It's vital. Abyss just gave us some 'there was a light factory here' and we been knew they existed

[sharp lichen]

It also definitively gives us info on power diamonds and light/dark creatures

[livid pelican]

What is?

[sharp lichen]

Season of Abyss!

[cobalt palm]

3 of them

[stable mauve]

Did the darkness starts and spreads first in the abyss after they opened the big door?

[boreal nebula]

I don't see Abyss murals as much informative.. in Prophecy there were so many, one for every new weekly quest

I wish there were more murals in Abyss. We see diamonds in the B4 and B5 floors, but still no news on what they were and what they do

Even the aquarium could be either a rescue center or a zoo/cage with as little as we know

[tranquil harbor]

That's a good idea actually, that the krills and leviathan were in there to see if the ancestors could cure them.
Everyone always goes for the worst possible 'ancestors were immoral' take. It's boring sometimes

[queen forum]

I mean, we only ever saw dark creatures in there. There wasn’t a single light creature in the aquarium. I think it was definitely more of a cage.

[cobalt palm]

The positions have changed a bit since I took these but the murals are the same

[livid pelican]

No I mean't that what do you know about the power diamonds

[foggy lotus]

What is the purpose of the tower in the abyss area?

[undone trench]

I miss when the lighthouse was important to abyss season,

[cobalt palm]

Seems a store of the mined resources by the top mural

[tranquil harbor]

Originally it was gonna be the entrance to the 3rd (or 4th) quest.

[boreal nebula]

Where? In beta?

[queen forum]

Maybe it’s like…a battery. Like there was a giant dark crystal inside the thing and it gave power to the rest of the area, and the resources are now just the remains of that crystal.

[sharp lichen]

It’s a material that is activated when coming into contact with light, similar to an electrical circuit. We now know that they’re directly made with mantas

[tranquil harbor]

It could have been a lighthouse. It certainly looks like a lighthouse on top

[undone trench]

Yeah, it used to be important there but they just removed it, perhaps they forgot some murals behind inside there still

[livid pelican]

Hmmm... I see.

[cobalt palm]

Extra sad for those we free in the forest temple

[queen forum]

That’s true. But if so, then does that mean the light was inside the tower, and the two crystals on top that presumably open the hatch up lifted the lighthouse bulb as well? I assume that would be the case…

[tranquil harbor]

yeah, that's why I think it's a lighthouse. Floor opens, light pops out

[queen forum]

Mm. Shame that the crystals don’t even do anything anymore.

[uncut pond]

It can get boring, but it's what fits Sky's theme of environmentalism the most

[boreal nebula]

I entered there in 14th February

Nothing Much to see

[queen forum]

: (

[undone trench]

I remember there being murals inside there, must've been seeing things then

[tranquil harbor]

Yeah, but the lore is 'vague' so when all anyone ever does is go 'clearly the ancestors are just immoral monsters who thought nothing of the consequences of their actions', you get literally one answer to everything. The creativity is lost. Even when a theory is blatantly wrong, you can get ideas for correct ones in the minor details.

[boreal nebula]

Any link to Some of those beta murals in a beta cheenel?

[compact shale]

I have the headcanon that that's exactly what Megabird thinks of the ancestors... if Megabird can think

[undone trench]

Megabird?

[tranquil harbor]

Then Megabird is a moron because the spirits are so varied. The confident sightseer literally takes her kid to a great view and piggybacks him so he can see.
Like, if that's Megabird's take, they're a worthless god unworthy of being followed

[compact shale]

Well that's very bold

[tranquil harbor]

I don't take kindly to gods unable to see the nuance of life

[livid pelican]

Then there's those children

[boreal nebula]

Looking of this a Second time

[queen forum]

My personal opinion is that the spirits are just, you know, like people. Did they make stupid decisions? Absolutely. But we’ve seen they’re capable of being kind, and loving, and generous. They’re not all bad or all good, more…neutral, with a series of unfortunate decisions that led to their downfall.

[uncut pond]

I mean, I don't think it was megabird who decided the Eden incident had to happen, as far as we know megabird might be just a hivemind of ancestor spirits even

[compact shale]

We don't know if the ancestor spirits were sent down from the sky intentionally or accidentally

[livid pelican]

I think they were just sent down as normal people.

[tranquil harbor]

Which is why the 'they were always immoral' takes bore me so much. Why can't that big fish tank have been a rehab like Tebkanlo said? It took forever to get one positive possibility for that tank, and it opens so much to me

[queen forum]

Well…if the traveling spirits count as canon, it’s probably more on the intentional side.

[livid pelican]

Maybe the tank is to keep the dark dragons at bay and study them ye?

[compact shale]

That isn't really an assumption I have. It's more of a game mechanic to me. but it seems like it might be important.

edit: the last sentence is regarding the question if the ancestors are there on purpose or not

[queen forum]

That’s fair. It does seem like a sort of thing that’s more for our sake than the Sky kids in game.

[sharp lichen]

Even still, it’s good to think of it fitting in the Sky lore. For me, TSs are sent there intentionally to try to give their items to as much Skykids as possible

[queen forum]

Hmmm…maybe giving everything they have to Skids helps them ascend?

[livid pelican]

Or they could just be a sectioned group of spirits that existed in the events before we came along

[compact shale]

freeing themselves of their worldly possessions /j ofc not they still keep their cosmetics jfhasdhah

[native shoal]

Ah yes worldly possessions including their HAIR

[tranquil harbor]

Traveling spirits fit perfectly into my 'the spirits return to the kingdom and 'live' like normal' theory so I don't have to worry :p

[compact shale]

there's a reason why monks shave

@tranquil harbor I have a headcanon where there are skykids who dream of this too but don't or can't work towards it

[queen forum]

All spirits return to the afterlife completely bald and lacking clothes, having been bought out by a horde of children.

[tranquil harbor]

explain, the thing towards me

[compact shale]

The monks or the other part

[livid pelican]

Travelling spirits is are just guys trying to check up on you and grant you blessings for saving them.

[compact shale]

It's the kind of stuff you don't like, yknow, Megabird and angst?

[queen forum]

I could see that. An extra way of saying thank you by coming back.

[tranquil harbor]

I'm fine with talking about it. Calling y'all angst machines is just me poking fun, I'm not '100% never talk megabird or angst to me EVER'

[formal skiff]

I like to think TSs are just spirits who get bored and wanna come chill with the skids for a few days

[livid pelican]

I 100% agree

[queen forum]

And it’s nice to imagine that they don’t regret visiting either, since there are a bunch of have returned multiple times.

[tranquil harbor]

Like, the only thing I am '100% never speak to me about it' is a debate on weather or not sky kids can eat.

[compact shale]

Basically, skykids CAN make a civilization where they coexist with the spirits as if they're alive, but they have to overthrow Megabird first because it wasn't their job to do so

Well I have this headcanon about the future of Sky which is apparently more horrifying than I think it is

Megabird may be a god made from a galaxy of stars, but not even stars are infinite for them. They will eventually make their last star into a skykid. What happens after that...?

When skykids were made, they were bound to a purpose "Bring our spirits back to the stars." Megabird said. When Megabird uses their last star, they won't disappear, but their power will be fully dispersed. When this happens, skykids will be unbound from their initial purpose and will be free to create their own.

What will they do? Will they destroy this world again? Will they rebuild it? Make it their own? When enough skykids unite for a cause, their linking stars could literally give them godly power!

[tranquil harbor]

I can't believe you thought I wouldn't find this completely wicked awesome

[queen forum]

Well, with the help of the spirits, they would hopefully make a world that didn’t repeat the same mistakes as the previous one. And with this “godly power” they could fix places like the wasteland and wipe the darkness from existence. (Assuming it’s not part of the natural order and actually necessary.)

[livid pelican]

A new generation that would heal the world. NIce

[undone trench]

Question, what is that so called "megabird" ?

[compact shale]

That bird-like constellation in Orbit. Supposedly.

Commonly regarded as the creator of skykids/light creatures and/or the god of Sky.

[undone trench]

Oh, should've looked up last time I was in orbit, that sounds interesting

[queen forum]

You can also see a drawing of it in the pool around the office entrance.

[undone trench]

Oh that thing! I always wondered what it was, I thought it was some sort of tree at first

[compact shale]

Megabird's name was mentioned in concept art, which is where most of our theories about Them are based on.