lore-discussion-spoilers

[hushed steeple]

True

I'm bored now, so I'm gonna head out
Be sure to cancel valentines day!!!

[frigid tinsel]

Isle Elder cutscene

[rustic heron]

The models shift after some amount of time so that they are standing.

[maiden fog]

Thats convenient, i vote that you get the image of them sitting snd standing....if thats okay

[rustic heron]

I’ve been meaning to redo the height calculations for the Elders. Sure, why not.

[maiden fog]

Yay!!!❤️ 🎉 thankyou

[keen shore]

Best of luck with those!! The finished calculations would be really useful

[maiden fog]

Im gonna head to bed. Goodnight!

[keen shore]

Somehow managed to forget I had a picture of the four diamond symbol we were talking about earlier?? New thing I noticed is that it has the same amount of diamonds as darkstone crystals have visible faces (when they’re inset into something you can only see 4 faces) although who knows if this is important

Also note the massive and unexplained crack in the door

[tulip aspen]

rip us.Android users

[compact shale]

I'm about to see Sky on the big tablet

considering what OOBs yall have been discovering that might not be a good idea

[wooden cedar]

[hollow egret]

🤦🏻‍♀️

[tulip aspen]

[rustic heron]

King when the Elders close the meeting room:

[frigid tinsel]

That emote name 😂

[compact shale]

BATTICHUBBERS

I NEVER NOTICED THAT TIL NOW

[rustic heron]

What is a big tablet? What is battichubbers? Has God forsaken me?

[tulip aspen]

there's:

and then there's

[willow prawn]

I have a question. In the 4th floor of Vault, there's one platform that got diamonds into it and just one

This is one of the moving platforms near the Gratitude spirit

Do you have any idea why they're there? Other platforms move but don't have them

[main nest]

I've never noticed that before. But it seems like an important observation :o

[livid pelican]

I find it weird too

[tulip aspen]

not all platforms have the diamonds in them?
i thought they did hm

[main nest]

my best guess would be they are somehow tied to the spirit's memory? The way they are arranged could mean some sort of screen or barrier?

[tulip aspen]

oh you mean the one with MORE diamonds, i thought u meant no other platforms have diamonds lol

hm, well that one goes up and down
maybe it needs that much in that order to have that verticality?

otherwise, id give it the "it's just for gameplay" bonk due to if the up and down one didnt have those crystals marking it like that id get absolutely lost and dizzy trying to platform on those darned elevators lolol

[compact shale]

Diamonds are probably also what keep Valley race structures afloat.

[willow prawn]

Oh not the diamonds below, I mean that one specifically because it got a lot around the upper border

[tulip aspen]

yes, we see the diamonds sticking out of them actually, similar to the wooden obstacles from assembly

[willow prawn]

I think there are others doing up-and-down motion though! I always thought it was just to signal the path but maybe it's related to the spirit?

[rustic heron]

It's curious to note that the platforms in Vault are all perfect octagons.

[compact shale]

Speaking of the hexagon hoops, I'm still kind of scratching my head on what exactly they used them for, because even if ancestors COULD fly Scold and QG are the only ones with the capes (and QG's cape is ripped so idk if it worked for them)

Considering that we see Daydream sit on it in the finale so ig they're just wee fun air seats but geez those must be a pain to get on and off those without breaking several ancestor-bones

[rustic heron]

They climb trees, or throw each other up there. To get down, you need a designated catcher.

[compact shale]

Awwwwwh

[main nest]

and if... the hoops were just there so that birds could fly through?
Maybe to power the crystals that way?

[tulip aspen]

yea that's what my "just for gameplay" thing means; it shows you where you are ig

[compact shale]

passive charging

casually sucking the excess light energy you're molting

[tulip aspen]

i think they're for us lolol, not everything has to be connected to the past (canon) about assembly tbh, so id say the scouts designed them for us AS SPIRITS NOT WHILE ALIVE

[tulip aspen]

ooooooooo

[compact shale]

I guess if you're the children of Lightseekers then you'd get inside info about flying souls falling from the sky

[rustic heron]

Heresy. Everything has a lore reasoning*.

[rustic heron]

Was that confirmed? I'm a prince/flight moth, so I have 0 knowledge of anything prior to those seasons save everything about the King, the prophecy, and lots of other stuff about other seasons maybe.

[compact shale]

Ash has confirmed that there's a connection between Lightseekers and Assembly, the "children of Lightseekers" part is just a popular assumption

But yeah, I guess stupid questions lead to stupid answers ehe

[rustic heron]

The connection is that they all died.

[compact shale]

Thanks for the rousing speech. /lh

[rustic heron]

Here's a question. Dismayed hunter is a Forest spirit. What were they hunting?

[compact shale]

Good question. Not sure why they didn't show what was being hunted. "Game limits" sounds kinda dubious.

But plausibly? Probably birds. Maybe crabs but that isn't as likely.

[rustic heron]

They hunted krills. That's why there are not krills in Forest.

[main nest]

good luck with that tiny bow...

[compact shale]

Hrm... whale bones... nah, I don't think dinky arrows could possibly kill a biggol whale. Unless the tips are made of darkstone. But I don't think ancestors want to eat corrupted flesh.

[rustic heron]

You aim for the eye, and the whole thing goes down.

[main nest]

thought you aim for the knees not a bad idea actually 🤭

[compact shale]

do krill have knees?

[rustic heron]

16 knees, to be precise.

[compact shale]

O H

[willow prawn]

I can't imagine winter for them

[compact shale]

does winter break your knees?

[main nest]

That's why they died out in valley

[willow prawn]

Real reason why krills stayed until wastelands and they're not further in the realms is the cold

Cold is mean on injured knees, and have you seen the twists they do? They gotta have broken at least once

[rustic heron]

Grandma has experience breaking kneecaps

[willow prawn]

BUT speaking seriously though, if we assume krills are cold-blooded after their corruption (maybe?), they wouldn't be able to get past Valley because they would go into hibernation/die from the cold I think

[rustic heron]

The Krill in the mountains just before Forgotten Ark begs to differ.

[willow prawn]

Those mountains are frozen?

[main nest]

I also think they're at least somewhat cold resistant. Look at the krill memory in Abyss

[compact shale]

Valley doesn't have water. Krill need to stay moist so...
___
🥤

[rustic heron]

Today I learned snow and ice isn't water. Darn.

[main nest]

They're water bound? Ist that confirmed? :o

[compact shale]

Krill can't go into radiator mode and melt the snow and ice tho

[willow prawn]

To a certain level, but Valley is frozen lands at a lot of altitude, to boot

Eden has altitude too but there's raining rocks, I'm not sure it's "Valley cold"

[rustic heron]

You may be on to something here. What if they can?

[compact shale]

krill microwave noises mmmmm beeep mmmmm beeep

[rustic heron]

Why do you think they make that noise when they spot you? That's when the microwave starts.

[willow prawn]

So we're just a grain of corn and our wings are the popcorn?

[rustic heron]

Life is a grain of corn, and one day you get popped.

[compact shale]

poetic /lh

[tulip aspen]

what does lh mean

[willow prawn]

Lighthearted

Also, that means Eden is a cinema and we're just giving snacks to every kid before the movie starts

[silk hinge]

aa sorry for the late reply, tysm!

[pastel brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[harsh pecan]

Wonderful quote

[sharp lichen]

You have become increasingly unfunny!

[trim belfry]

I posted this theory before but I have nothing to post other than it hehe
It’s about what gw was looking like in the past
I believe it was a big cool country connect the realms...
I think you relized that it have similar places with forest and valley... Every realms built something indicates to their existence... Also at the end of valley we see something like houses before flying to gw... So yeah... All of that was before the storm

+they maybe use gw basicly for trade...

[tulip aspen]

it definitely was industrial, and valley and wasteland seem to used to have been one realm together....

[lofty void]

oh my god. that comic

[maiden fog]

I think krills hate light as in the sun. I mean yes forest is shaded by the trees but to get there you have to go through valley, an incredibly bright and sunny place. Also I have a question about krills. They don't have wings, how on earth do they fly!?!

[late wasp]

I don't think wings are that important for flight.
Sky Kids fly even when their cape/wing is short or just a scarf.
Ancestors can

[lofty void]

Yeah

It’s either some corruption magnetism effect stuff (though i doubt it) or they can just fly because they can

[late wasp]

Oh right, there is also the whole crystal power shenanigans, like how it can make boats fly. Maybe Krill have mechanical parts too (or just crystals)

[rustic heron]

Interesting bit of lore there. But I have to ask: where is the Diamond powering that screen?

[rustic heron]

The power of flight is not in the cape, but the arms. That’s why when you stretch out your arms, you rise, and when they’re folded against your body you fall.

Krills have 4 pairs of arms, each with two elbows, translating to 8x the amount of flight power. This enables them to float.

I just had a thought. ||King Krill|| has ridiculous numbers of limbs with even more joints. That effectively means they are the equivalent of an ICBM in Sky.

[lofty void]

ICBM?

[tulip aspen]

we still dont know what the text on the scholar headdresses mean huh

[tulip aspen]

w h a t

[late wasp]

it is interesting how they have "crystal eyes". like some form of high-tech glasses/lenses.

[lofty void]

“UwU”

[tulip aspen]

imagine if they didn't always have crystal shaped eyes, and the influence of the diamonds and crystals made them like that

[weak dust]

What

[keen shore]

The crystal eyes are totally ancestor glasses I’m calling it. I mean they refract light (pretty sure this is the right term), they go over the eyes, and we haven’t seen any other form of glasses. Also vault of knowledge is extremely dark — try to read anything there for extended periods of time and you will totally need glasses

(Also very much on board with the idea that being around darkstone crystals for extended periods of time crystallizes you from the inside out, but this is probably a less likely explanation canon wise)

[frigid tinsel]

Hmm, some spirits have round eyes, some have diamond eyes

[late wasp]

eye colors
eye shapes

[weak dust]

So would you people of the sacred realm educate me with the knowledge that you have?

[rigid mural]

No branches tho. Contact lenses.

[late wasp]

How about you give us a summary of how you understood the story so far? Maybe you might help us see a new perspective. And it will also help us to find some good conversation points for us to tell our shared understanding of the lore.

[formal skiff]

Was gonna do homework but
Sky lore discussion > schoolwork due tomorrow

[weak dust]

What I tell you wouldn't to be clean because I watched some theory videos

From the antler kid

[boreal nebula]

I think we are made out of clouds not wax /j

[weak dust]

To be honest I would have liked it if there was more direct storytelling instead of this

[formal skiff]

I like the vagueness! It allows us to come up with all sorts of cool theories

Plus, I think the mystery is very appropriate for the general feel of the game

[formal skiff]

Wait how the heck do you have that many candles and hearts what witchery is this

[weak dust]

I mean yeah I like theories too I'm like an absolute lore enjoyer for genshin impact and the lore that game goes pretty deep if you look into it
,Ehh I get what you're saying But I don't know my guy

[compact shale]

Nanachi

Good taste

[weak dust]

I would have appreciated if there was like some lore text is there of the game that you can or anything I mean you guys seem to enjoy it so who am I to talk about it

[boreal nebula]

Ehm, 1 year of playing with income of 10 candles (counted out candles spent for friends/spirits) + a couple of bonus from seasonal candles convertion (into regular white candles at season end)
Recently there were a couple of TS already met

[formal skiff]

I believe there’s a Google doc of all the canon lore confirmed by devs if you want to check that out!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing

[late wasp]

problem is mostly how there isn't much of a story. there is a lot of lore /worldbuilding. but the story is fairly simple and short.

[half shadow]

Anybody get a chance to watch the latest livestream? I was gonna comb through it to check out the comments on Abyss so far

[late wasp]

Nothing of interest lorewise. Sadly. ||I love Alice, but she is not good directing "interviews"||

[half shadow]

Ah well, I still might check it out just because of how much I love Abyss

[compact shale]

I tried asking some questions. Nope.

[weak dust]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

[formal skiff]

I watched it. Mostly the devs chatting about their jobs and being excited about the game. They didn’t drop any lore but everyone was so clearly very passionate and invested in the game it was so wholesome

[keen shore]

Hoping they give us more prestorm lore, I am very hungry for it and curious how everything worked

[late wasp]

Yeah, it's very interesting for the technical bit and the future of the game.
Like I didn't know how the relic hunting in Abyss is unique mechanically.
If you do the quest Multiplayer, then each member of the team has to collect their own relic.
You can not just be dragged by a more experienced player. You actually have to play.

[formal skiff]

Mm yes I will eat all the lore right up

[rustic heron]

Intercontinental ballistic missile. It’s a land-based nuclear missile that enters high atmosphere, and then lands.

[half shadow]

I desperately hope we get another drawing “profile” like we got of the Ceasing Commodore recently

[formal skiff]

YES THOSE ARE THE BEST

[rustic heron]

Basically, it’s ancestor cavemen bonking each other with candles. The King invented fire, and then everything fell apart 2 days later.

[keen shore]

We’re not getting more because, while we do not know this, the other abyss spirits are just commodore in various costumes

[half shadow]

They’re very talented

It wasn’t Ash who drew those was it?

[formal skiff]

Or maybe commodore IS one of the costumes

Maybe they’re all costumes

||They were Oreo all along||

[late wasp]

Oh right, this stream and the previous confirms TGC are all Cannoneer stans.

[tulip aspen]

glasses or contacts?

[keen shore]

Do contacts work by refracting light?? I have too much paranoia about putting things in my eyes to know

[half shadow]

How could you not be? They won’t give you a choice

[late wasp]

I'm not entirely sure, Ash preferring to talk about Flight is kinda suspicious.
We know Yui Tanabe was the lead artist for this season at least.

[tulip aspen]

you should see ancient beings like sky hikari

[tulip aspen]

kinda?

all of the lore docs help very little tbh

[formal skiff]

Yeah I have severe gender envy for that spirit

TGC, how could you do this to me

[half shadow]

I think the canon one should def be updated

[rustic heron]

Yup. Glasses doin the same thing. Basically, something is wrong with the natural lenses in your eyes (squished to much in@one direction or another), and the natural refraction they provide doesn’t hit the light sensing nerves correctly. Glasses and contacts refract light even more to compensate.

[formal skiff]

Yeah, I still found them interesting though :)

[rustic heron]

They have to be. Canonneer is the@biggest threat to the lore bible’s security.

[rigid mural]

TGC crossed a point of no return when they started giving lore outside the game tbh.
Journey too is vague, but unlike Sky you don't need to go through a hundred pages of dev log to learn all there is to its canon.
Whereas right now, we're constantly waiting for whatever lore drop or retcon comes next. Which is cool ! It gives people a reason to continue paying attention to the franchise. But in that case, it gets really frustrating because the theory TGC wants us to do needs solid bases.

[late wasp]

I agree 100%, it's tiresome having to try and collect bits and pieces of lore all over the place.
I wish they just publish a lore bible and say: "This is canon. Anything before this? Not canon."
like making a clean slate.

and then they can be more organized in how they reveal the lore

[rustic heron]

I really like the way Dark Souls handles lore. Instead of publishing a lore bible, all the lore is present in item descriptions.

TGC could easily do the same; drop lore bits as cosmetic descriptions. It makes it easy to ignore for the ignorant sheep uninitiated, but available for lore aficionados.

[rigid mural]

Yeah. Not asking for everything to be told to us, but we need solid bases. From then on, we can link these to the new seasons.

[late wasp]

Dark Souls is a mess. We had to develop a shared Google Drive of all the out of the game lore info + translations. LOL

[rigid mural]

Unfortunately they're trying to keep the interface simple so I don't see cosmetic descriptions, but perhaps install a system of collectibles that we can randomly find in the wild. Maybe something from the flight area can finally tell us within the game that the guide was the elder's disciple !

[rustic heron]

To be fair, at least it’s there. Right now, we’re floundering on the premise that “nothing his concrete, make your own headcannon “.

[frigid tinsel]

every once in a while, lorechat turns into lore-vent

[rigid mural]

Don't we all love commiserating.

[rustic heron]

I blame Megabird atheism for the lack of a lore bible.

[late wasp]

Megabird atheism is canon

[frigid tinsel]

what Sky lacks is a solid lore foundation

[rustic heron]

The lack of faith is punished by having the truth hidden from us. We are bereft of lore, of direction, all for the vanity of Megabird Atheism.

[late wasp]

unshackled by canon, ancestorkind is free, allowing for Robot-Vision Vault Elder to become a reality 🤖

[rustic heron]

Well, why don’t we make one? We have the knowledge and drive.

We have the technology.

[willow prawn]

Sky is too visual instead of fully concrete, which is fantastic for inmersion but makes everything harder

Maybe we need to start having more animated murals for explicitness but that speak of the crisis Prophecy 2.0

With harder trials

[late wasp]

the problem is that lore is a selling point for TGC. lol
they know this, and they never answer a question without adding 2 more questions. or adding paradoxes.

I know there is a "lore bible", but imo this is just the "base lore". recent streams said how the Abyss Team was simply asked to "go wild". Meaning, as long as it doesn't goes against the canon of Lore Bible, they can add whatever they want.

Doubt there is an overarching narrative or lore-plan. It's more like different teams adding what they think would be cool and work in the setting, respecting the base canon.

Sorta like D&D.

[rustic heron]

Ancestor-kind doomed themselves without direction. Unfettered and ungrounded, they were left loose to ruin the world and themselves.

Just look at the destruction wrought by gender currency, and tell me that the unchained masses had the wisdom to guide themselves.

[formal skiff]

If this comes to pass I will rely on my friends to lead me like a moth through the trials just as much as I do during the current trials

Have I been playing long enough that I should be self-sufficient? Absolutely. Am I? N o p e

[rustic heron]

Cosmetics are a selling point for TGC. Lore restricts the artistic freedom to create attractive cosmetics..

[late wasp]

I mean, in the menus, the main goal of the game is to "Uncover the mystery"
let me get an actual quote

[rustic heron]

The answer is to play Journey.

Hot take, but I think Journey did much of this so much better.

[formal skiff]

How would it restrict that? /genq

[late wasp]

Gameplay Tips

Unravel the mystery
Explore the land of Sky to uncover the history of this world and its people.

Save the spirits
Return your ancestors to the sky and complete the constellation for each kingdom.

LMAO
Even the Menus has retconned lore holy moly
The plural "kingdoms" is such a mess

[rustic heron]

Sunglasses are cool. It’s a popular cosmetic.

Nowhere in the technological abilities of the ancestors does it show they were capable of manufacturing plastics, or even glass.

Yet they exist. Same goes for the metal on the current season’s coat. Most weapons shown in-game seemed to be made of stone, as does all the technology.

[keen shore]

I think it’s safe to say that each realm is probably not an independent kingdom considering how weird it would be to have a kingdom that’s just Basement Library

[formal skiff]

Ah I see, ty!

[formal skiff]

TIS I… THE GREAT LORD OF BASEMENT LIBRARY. FEAR MY WRATH!!!

[keen shore]

• I think lore would be a much more logical selling point (although I am biased) just because collecting cosmetics gets boring fast and you’re guaranteed to make unpopular ones at some point or another, just wish we actually got more visible in game lore in practice yknow

[rustic heron]

It would make sense if they were somewhat independent. The Elders likely disagreed fundamentally, which caused the “stars to fall” aka they split up to do their own thing.

The King@likely forced their cooperation upon his return as the CoL.

[late wasp]

Still, in a 386 THOUSAND server, I see at most the same 20 faces here. LOL
only the devs and us care about the lore. the difference is that the devs have access to the lore bible and we don't.

[formal skiff]

Lol true, I’m just a humble loremoff but already I can tell the lore base is small yet dedicated

[keen shore]

Yeah, the numbers difference is a little surprising to me, + how slow this channel moves is not something I would expect (although I’m not complaining. If there was a lot more people I would probably be too shy to say anything) but I guess if lore became a more obvious focus of the game, might attract a different player base demographic or make already existing players curious

[rustic heron]

That’s the contention. We are a minority in every fandom. Lore requires intense focus from any creative team, and is often boring for most.

We like it, but go into general and see how much attention these theories will gain.

[keen shore]

Lorechat expectation: massive lore hub with tons of people who know everything hidden in the game
Lorechat reality: There are ten people here and none of them are entirely sure what’s going on. They keep talking about gender money for some reason

[formal skiff]

THIS IS AN AMAZING AND PERFECT MESSAGE AND I GAZE UPON IT WITH GLORY

[late wasp]

each x is 100 people
we are the red circle.
(that's even considering there are 100 of us)

[formal skiff]

Can someone explain gender money to me or is there nothing to explain

[frigid tinsel]

Don’t forget the lurkers who never or seldom say anything. We don’t know how many folks are silent yet curious

[formal skiff]

I just silently watched this channel for a few days before deciding to get slightly more involved

[keen shore]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message Gender Lore

[rustic heron]

Strap in, my little moff. It’s a wild one.

Either Salem or Sophia came up with the theory that belonging family got rich@by exploiting gender as a form@of currency. It spiraled out of control, becoming the only explanation for any economy in Sky.

[formal skiff]

OH I SEE
I LOVE IT

[frigid tinsel]

Megabird saw the chaos the ancestors did with gender thus decided to avoid that crap in the descendants by making skykids genderless

[rigid mural]

"your ancestors"
👀 👀 👀

[rustic heron]

Sky kids are adopted.

[keen shore]

They’ve been adopted by at least 20 different spirits at this point, so they just count everyone as their ancestors to make things easier

[late wasp]

"My ancestors are smiling at me, Krills. Can you say the same?"

[rigid mural]

So... sky kids as actual descendants of the spirits ?

[frigid tinsel]

editor voice: “your” could refer to the ancestors you saved or the fact that in Zhao’s concept art, skykids are referred to as “the descendants” meaning skykids were modeled off of the ancestors to some degree, therefore not biological descendants but figurative

[late wasp]

i think that menu is super old, but yea, at one point we were

[keen shore]

Considering the sky kingdom was the only civilization and group of people skykids have ever known, and once again half of them have adopted them it makes sense that they would just identify with them as their ancestors.

More interesting interpretation is that the ancestors are also nonbiological like we are, so descendants would just mean “later wave of people sent down” and not genetically related descendants

[rigid mural]

yeah but tom zhao's art is concept; this quote is live. Which is funny because it's probably not what TGC intended but also 👀

[frigid tinsel]

Alternatively, skykids could be considered the descendants of the proto-skykid who landed in Stargazer’s memory, implied to be Chosen One and maybe king. Either the descendants were modeled after Chosen One, arguably “descended” from the original skykid.

But this doesn’t directly answer why ancestors are regarded as “your” ancestors

[rigid mural]

tbh there was a time bonk damage was a thing; you'd lose wing power if you hit stuff too hard, so it's possible sky kids aren't golems either

[frigid tinsel]

They could still be golems, just not impervious ones. Like iron golems in Minecraft — they take damage, crack, and eventually break, dying

[late wasp]

||it might be that, jokes aside, like ancestral species||

[rigid mural]

i like to think skykids have something coming from ancestors, whether they are their reincarnated children or something else
personal headcanon is that ancestors that died and got reincarnated normally (so not the ones we are rescuing) became skykid in their newest life

[hushed steeple]

Im removing my shoes to try and test the token theory, hold tight everyone.

[rigid mural]

we probably would need to ask a dev if every ancestor is in the same predicament as the ones we meet, or if these are just unfortunate and got caught in the wrong place at the wrong moment by darkness or whatever killed them

[hushed steeple]

OH MY JAR WE ARENT MADE OF FLESH!!!!

That or we have really tough calluses on our feet.

[frigid tinsel]

Skykids’ physical bodies are prob made of some magic-induced earthen material such as harden clay, stone, or ash & charcoal

[rigid mural]

that would be so cool, i love how the abyss masks can be interpreted to mean a sky kid has malachite patterns on their body

[compact shale]

The implications of that are heartbreaking

Imagine if you're one of those successfully reincarnated ancestors and you find that your best friend didn't make it, and when you rescue them you can't convince them that it's you

[formal skiff]

Noooo omg that’s so sad

[hushed steeple]

Or maybe these are the lucky ancestors, if we are to look at some other theories, like the creation of dark stone, or even my memory manta theory, it could be that all the other spirits are trapped inside of something else, meaning they don't began get the chance to be ascended.

[rigid mural]

maybe the skykids themselves forgot they used to be ancestors

imagine remembering a memory on your own, feeling a sense of loss but not understanding which ancestor this memory came from

[wise rampart]

so basically like Guardians in Destiny

[formal skiff]

This is my new favorite headcannon simply because it absolutely breaks my heart

[keen shore]

Imagine if the reason there’s no dead bodies in wasteland is because they all kind of merged together into krill and now they can’t break free, and no one can get close enough to help

[wise rampart]

In destiny, risen, or guardians, are protectors woken by the light to defend the people and push back the darkness. They wield incredible power and are capable of wiping out legions of the toughest foes. They have no memory of their past life, at all. When they wake, they have not even a name.

[hushed steeple]

Are you implying that the missing ancestor spirits split apart and those pieces merged with pieces from other spirits and thus created sky kids?

(im not speaking seriously about that)

[frigid tinsel]

Given that the spirits seem to be from different points in the kingdom’s history yet all now petrified statues, I’ve been considering that darkness has always been present. Less so in its early years, but still a threat to spirits. When an ancestor dies and becomes a spirit, darkness has a chance to petrify them, preventing them from journeying to an Elder temple or Eden to ascend.

This is why there seems to be more spirits from the latter end of the kingdom’s history when darkstone tech was present and creating darkness pollution — more darkness around to petrify spirits. See also Golden Wasteland spirits all appear to have been living when Wasteland was a wasteland rather than before.

In the earlier stages of the kingdom before darkstone tech, less darkness was around thus more spirits from that time were able to ascend rather than get stuck.

[rigid mural]

more like sky kids got the soul of an ancestor but not the memories that go with it. The idea of sky kids not being entirely blank slates is
if you mean the memory thing, it's more like the ancestor part not being truly gone and reacting to some stimuli that used to be associated with strong emotions maybe ! like a memory you used to have, know is there but are not sure is yours anymore

[hushed steeple]

This ancestor tragedy is all due to the Valley Twins' rambunctiousness during meetings, they accidentally hit the "tragic mass death" button whilst fighting.

[keen shore]

Like if the smell of fire fills you with irrational fear but you can’t remember why

[frigid tinsel]

Who even made a “tragic mass death” button in the first place? Who’s making these decisions

[hushed steeple]

I was kidding

[rigid mural]

YES YOU GET ME
or feeling a sense of thrill you KNOW isn't yours during the valley races

[hushed steeple]

Don't ask me, ask the people who make the buttons.

[rigid mural]

slink i was about to get your attention

[raw crypt]

HUH

[formal skiff]

Omg my OC Finch was adopted by the Butterfly Charmer and the Sneaky one, how much more wholesome would this be if those two were actually their parents when it was an ancestor

[hushed steeple]

I understood perfectly well, im just playing around with the way you worded it.

[rigid mural]

Wasn't it you that had a headcanon close to that ?

[rigid mural]

yeah im just reacting with a single emote because it's not even a problem lmao

[hushed steeple]

The fact that all spirits are referred to as "ancestors" when the context of talking about them also has to do with our sky kids is something I think we should look into.
Remember what master Oogway said before dying due to a common "peach tree attack"?
There are no accidents.

[raw crypt]

close to what, the skykids have ancestor souls, or smth else?

i was popping in tho bc i got reminded of an idea i had that could add to this lil hc, in spirit constellations theres often tiny stars that are just. there, empty, no spirit attached, perhaps that could be a soul/star reborn heho

[rigid mural]

the ancestor soul thing yeah !

[formal skiff]

Or maybe spirits that successfully ascended

[hushed steeple]

It is entirely plausible, but I also feel that there are too few stars maybe?

[raw crypt]

ahhh mightve been someone else! unless i talked abt it and forgot HDJDHDH

and it wasnt a fully fleshed out idea just an observation of not in use stars GDHDHHD

[frigid tinsel]

wonder if those not in use stars will be new base-game spirits someday

[hushed steeple]

Isn't it wierd how there are randomly place stone blocks on top of the hidden forest wall, right before the rain?

[formal skiff]

I sure hope not, it takes long enough as it is to complete constellations

[hushed steeple]

How could I forget the friendship constellation
Sorry, I take back what I said

[formal skiff]

Perhaps the wall used to be taller and some stones have fallen off over time and those are the remaining top ones

[hushed steeple]

Im going to submit contest pictures and do some homewrok, byeeeeeeeeee!!!!

[formal skiff]

Byeeee!

I should do hw to but shhh we’re ignoring that

[frigid tinsel]

devs have retconned spirits before. Ushering Stargazer used to be Ushering Migrant and had completely different memories before Season of Prophecy. while that doesn't explicitly suggest that devs would add more base-game spirits, it shows that they're not shy on altering the base-game.
see: https://youtu.be/Pk9PTe_mSBA?t=164

[sharp lichen]

It would be really interesting to see more changes to the base game. For example, the current parts of Vault could use more improvement

[frigid tinsel]

yea, the Vault is very empty. there's a lot going on that isn't of much substance (hence the debate whether the Vault is real or not). in concept art, it's clear they had plans for the Vault to be a great lore dump with many projections illustrating the kingdom's history, even an Eden mural in Vault Elder's cutscene with all the other realm constellations, but none of that made it to Live.

[formal skiff]

I think it would make sense for lore to be revealed in-game in vault- a reward for making it to the last realm. I agree that murals and projections would be a good format (reading the script doesn’t quite fit with the vibe of the game imo). Maybe in an upcoming season we could see some murals/projections depicting history and the nature of life before the disaster.

[sharp lichen]

If I’d remake Vault, I’d add side-rooms on the higher floors that, when entered, show cutscenes of life before the Storm. I’d also make the theming lore consistent, with there being clearer nods to past realms. Finally, the last room would be far larger, which would make for a grand exit.

[frigid tinsel]

according to Zhao, the memory cubes may store a lot of history about the kingdom. unfortunately we can't open them.

[formal skiff]

Maybe meditation to see the cutscenes and a clear implication that the vault elder is showing us this, if we’re going with meditation = enter some mindspace or something

[formal skiff]

Ohh I wish I could see thoooooossssee

[rustic heron]

Sky kids are made from the ashes of Megabirds cigarettes.

[frigid tinsel]

off topic but i know yall were talking about the floating platforms in Vault earlier and I just uncovered this

and here's Zhao's depiction of "the secret door" to the Elders' meeting room(?)

[formal skiff]

I LOVE THESE

[frigid tinsel]

top of the Vault

[sharp lichen]

Emergency meeting room (IM SORRY)

[formal skiff]

Are these the original constellations?? If so this implies a strong connection between Valley and mantas

[rustic heron]

You know, with the recent seasons expanding upon the lives of spirits, I’d love a season in vault that makes this a feature.

Maybe we help the scholars make or restore a memory cube, and our reward is that the cube we restore is actually a memory of the King, but it’s a tease.

[formal skiff]

YES YES YES YES YES

[frigid tinsel]

top text reads:

Night Story Layout
Maturity – Belonging, Wisdom, Sacred, Revelation, Hope.
bottom text reads:
-Story Beats (orange)
-History (light blue)
-Mechanics (green)

see, Vault was supposed to be the mega lore bean at the very end of our journey

[rustic heron]

I thought that was Teth’s umbrella.

[rustic heron]

That’s what it was in Journey. At the end, the tower replays your Journey for you.

[frigid tinsel]

yea looks like Zhao's renditions of the realm constellations. I think they're Isle, Prairie, Forest, Valley, Wasteland

[formal skiff]

??? is forest right? And it’s darkstone I assume

[frigid tinsel]

oh hat makes sense. I'll fix that

[rustic heron]

Which realm are you?

[frigid tinsel]

you can browse all of Zhao's concept art for Sky here: https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1

[boreal nebula]

Good finding, I didnt notice it was called differently back then . And thanks, I was wondering if there was a recording somewhere but I didnt know how to find it

[wise rampart]

eden

[rustic heron]

Eden:
Scenic storm.
There be dragons.
Child murder.
Hugs ❤️

[hushed steeple]

Are journy and sky connected, lore-wise

[wise rampart]

I prefer the mountain over orbit

[rustic heron]

Journey is Sky’s older, better looking, and cooler older sibling.

[sharp lichen]

That’s a subjective matter

[hushed steeple]

That didn't really answer the question

[frigid tinsel]

i read that tidbit off the wiki, had heard Stargazer's memory had changed with the Season of Prophecy, decided to see for myself.
if you want to find old Sky stuff on Youtube from initial release, check out tutorials that are 2+ years old like this vid.

[boreal nebula]

I am the powercrystal ! /j

Joke aside I wonder if new quest will tell us more about this sockets over the gates in Treasure Reef

[frigid tinsel]

TGC produced both Journey and Sky. however Sony owns the copyright to Journey, so TGC couldn't make a direct sequel to that game. devs have said that Sky is a "spiritual successor" to Journey so it's not farfetched to see the connections between the two.

[rustic heron]

Sky’s general story and game progression is modeled off of Journey, which is licensed by Sony and thus no other works can be made off of it because Sony owns the rights.

Sky is a recreation, with additional elements and a focus on the multiplayer aspect. It also has more customization to fit in with the newer model.

[sharp lichen]

They are half-brothers, to be exact. Although Journey was made by TGC, Sony has some rights to it, which means they legally can’t be connected. Some see Sky as a spiritual successor, but I seldom see any sense in seeing them as the same.

[boreal nebula]

Like, will uwe activate these doors with the " Resources" ?!

[hushed steeple]

Ahh I see thanks @sharp lichen @rustic heron @frigid tinsel

[compact shale]

Have you figured out how to steal "the resources?"

[rustic heron]

Journey has better graphics, a more cohesive and impactful story, and a better multiplayer mechanic.

[frigid tinsel]

given that pulling "resources" out of the manta cages freed the mantas, power diamonds that weren't present before the quest was available, there may be power diamonds that show up next week with the new quest that'll open the big door. it's gotta open eventually, we saw that in the trailer.

I'm banking on a quest that involves stealing the "resources" back from the scavengers to fix things.

note: I don't know any Beta content, this is all speculation.

[sharp lichen]

Interesting.. I don’t see Sky vs Journey being discussed a lot, but I’m wondering if Sky has carved its career into a quite cool carving to show its kinfolk, or if it has careened and crashed in this chaotic clash.

[rustic heron]

I see it like a money grab. TGC makes some very impactful games. To give anecdotal evidence, I waited 8 years to play Journey, and I had watched play through a of it multiple times.

I was still overcome with emotion upon its climax, and played through the game twice in a row when it released on Steam.

Sky is fun, but it had nowhere near the same impact for me that Journey did.

But emotionally overwhelming games don’t bring in cash. Even if micro transactions in Sky are done as ethically as@possible, it’s still represents a clear need to make money.

[sharp lichen]

Huh! Good points. (MODS DONT KRILL US ITS TECHNICALLY LORE IF WERE TALKING ABOUT PAST GAMES)

Because this chat has been krilled, let’s talk about the origin of krills. When did they come into existence, how were they made, and what similarities do they share with other creatures?

[stable veldt]

passing by
While the devs confirmed Krills to be be corrupted unknown light creature, other theories also include it was a war machine in GW that hunts light

[cobalt palm]

I think people who theorized journey and sky being in the same "universe" if not in the same "world" most consider that the story of journey came before that of Sky.
I wonder if it is actually the other way around, the children of light successfully shipped all the spirits to the light, and so ascended the now completely wastelanded realms.
At some later point the cloth creatures came to be, discovering the Graves, but the spirits and memories have long since moved on,
and the darkness became hardened into war machines (armoured krill descendants).

Though theory doesn't explain who created the murals we see in journey, unless that is also at the end of an era of cloth folk.

[compact shale]

Since it's confirmed to be a corrupted light creature, based on its appearance, it's probably a reincarnated skeleton. We know that animal bones can hold consciousness/soul in Sky, as there are whale bones that honk in Hidden Forest.

[boreal nebula]

I like how in Vault I started to orientate with stars, like old sailors did even before the invention of world maps

For example in Vault Floor 5 you need to catch the mutliwing manta coming from Prairie Constellation

[stable veldt]

either the whale that honks in forest, or the huge manta in sanctuary or whale in eden

[boreal nebula]

I bet next quest will be at the littlehouse / tower top, but hope we can start to officially see inside that door too

[compact shale]

It's also been speculated to be the Switch trailer creature

[cobalt palm]

That does look like a smaller sanctuary bigboi

[boreal nebula]

But are we even sure krill is Corrupted also in shapes?

In a way even crabs are corrupted by dark dust/spores and become aggressive, only some of tbhese are not aggressive and maybe not 'corrupted'

So what did devs mean? Corrupted or corrupted‽

[compact shale]

Corrupted crabs and uncorrupted crabs are a thing. Corrupted crabs are the dark creature crabs, while the uncorrupted crabs are neutral. The friendly crabs don't have dark dust on them if you look closely.

[half shadow]

New Theory: Journey and Sky share the same world but happen on different continents at the same time

[harsh pecan]

Maybe, why didn’t they locate each other though?

[static meteor]

where can we see these friendly crabs?

[compact shale]

There's an island in Sanctuary where they live.

[boreal nebula]

Sanctuary, behind there are very little islands in a row, there are 2 there
Some one is friendly in GW too, near the rolling/roasting BBQ

And even if it's an easteregg map, in office too

[static meteor]

oh huh!

oh wow I didn't know that

I would love to see an un-corrupted krill sometime, I really hope they add them in

[compact shale]

We take down a krill and scrub it good

boom

[orchid jolt]

Is it just me, or do these look similar to the elder masks on the realm portal frames?

[rustic heron]

They do, but I think that’s because Elder symbols tend to be a bisected diamond, or other shape, with eyes.

[orchid jolt]

i know, but like, this is on what looks like a temple, there are two of them, i feel as though this was purposeful

[rustic heron]

Which temple is this? It could be meaningful, but I feel it needs more context.

You’re right in that it’s more than coincidence that this particular diamond is bisected in such a distinct fashion.

[orchid jolt]

eden, first area. the thing with that one winged light

Not sure if this helps, but heres an uncropped version

[half shadow]

Oooh, huh. How long did it take you to get up there lol

[orchid jolt]

not very long

[orchid jolt]

just had to flap a few times, be a chibi, and hop onto the ledge. (this is part of the area before the krill appear)

[karmic ledge]

I drew the flight spirit intros! Our new 2D artist @/thatskyemily#9009 is drawing the Abyss spirit artwork for the intros! (Although I did the abyss teaser images!)

Her linework is so good

[compact shale]

We can't wait for the new Abyss intros, Ash!

[orchid jolt]

hey, so since you're a dev, do you have any knowledge on what these are supposed to be? they are from the first area of eden and are on the entrance to that small little temple thing with that one winged light. They remind me of the elder's faces on the realm portals.

Edit: woops, sorry, hadnt seen that message from Ktjin saying not to bombard devs with questions

[formal skiff]

^^^^^ /lh

[orchid jolt]

and thank you for pointing that out to me! i didnt know about that message lol. sorry Ash!

[formal skiff]

Np!

[compact shale]

This is just a one-pass, Ash isn't ready for beangiving yet

[karmic ledge]

All good! Although Fruitzie is correct, I'm still pretty busy at the moment with some deadlines for ✨ things ✨ so I'll have to give that question a raincheck for now.

beans for the road

!bean 638508856044945414 bean!

[gentle mauve]

Happy Ameoba#1288 (638508856044945414) was beaned. Reason: bean!

[karmic ledge]

!bean 831788853999566859 beans!!

[gentle mauve]

FruitzieChan#8290 (831788853999566859) was beaned. Reason: beans!!

[karmic ledge]

!bean 785641061711478846 and one more!

[gentle mauve]

GayBirdChild#0611 (785641061711478846) was beaned. Reason: and one more!

[formal skiff]

did you hear that guys
✨ things✨

[compact shale]

Thank you, Ash! Also, (Mega)birdspeed on the work!

[frigid tinsel]

we have thatskybot and Fearbot terrorizing this channel? ahh /j

[formal skiff]

Oh no I’ve been beaned, woe is me /j

[orchid jolt]

probably for the best anyway, i havent made any memes to annoy lore chat with, specifically memes that compare Ash the concept artist for sky to Ash Ketchum from pokemon,

[formal skiff]

Oh, no beans 😔

[orchid jolt]

......🌱.......
🟫🟫
🟫🟫🟫
Thank you for the beans! I've planted them and will water and take good care of them!

......🌱....... ......🌱....... ......🌱....... ......🌱....... ......🌱.......
🟫🟫 🟫🟫 🟫🟫 🟫🟫 🟫🟫
🟫🟫🟫 🟫🟫🟫 🟫🟫🟫 🟫🟫🟫 🟫🟫🟫

[sharp lichen]

Didn’t even bean me smh

[formal skiff]

BEANS FOR ALL

[rigid mural]

ash is there ???

[orchid jolt]

[rigid mural]

lmaooo i missed it

[compact shale]

Too busy to lorebean, sorry

they give road beans tho

[formal skiff]

Yummy road beans

[rigid mural]

oh yeah i just saw, that's understandable

[frigid tinsel]

snacks for the trip

[white tangle]

aye beans

[formal skiff]

I saw that

[compact shale]

GONNA CATCH EM ALL

[orchid jolt]

leaked photo of ash the concept artist: ||/j||

[harsh pecan]

LOL

[orchid jolt]

i realized i forgot to add a "/j" and spoil the image for added effect lol

[formal skiff]

The Great Bean-er has come and gone

[keen shore]

The pain of wanting to talk about something here but not have any ideas on what to talk about

[compact shale]

what happens if i stick my finger into a skykid's eye /j

[keen shore]

You now have 1 less finger

[formal skiff]

Your finger glows for the rest of the day bc you get eyejuice on it

[formal skiff]

Because the skid screams and a krill comes and instead of knocking off wl it knocks off a finger

[harsh pecan]

Or the Sky kid has 1 less eye

[pastel brook]

[uncut pond]

Counter argument: Sky does have a rather strong story and narrative that easily stands on it's own two feet without the need of the deep lore, the issue is that it's not the kind of narrative the mainstream is used to.

Most media relies on plot-driven and character-driven storytelling.
Sky has none of that, it's a theme-driven narrative, in which the plot and characters take the backseat in order for the themes of the game to shine in the spotlight. Because of this, a lot of people are naturally not gonna get it, because we're too used to only ever seeing plot and characters, while sidelining or ignoring themes.

The lore of the game is just flavor, something extra that the narrative doesn't really need to be good, that's why there isn't so much attention put into it from a marketing (?) perspective.

[sharp lichen]

If it’s a flavor, then where do I get my lore ice cream

[uncut pond]

harass the devs to get lore /j

[formal skiff]

The flavor is ||beans ||

[harsh pecan]

Dang, does that taste good

[compact shale]

sprinkled with eden pop rocks

[orchid jolt]

Here you go dev-caped kid ||im still going by that stupid theory i made as a joke where the dev caped kid is skybot. i know its not canon and can't be canon, but the theory was made to sound really dumb and it fulfilled that purpose.||

[orchid jolt]

peas are closely related to beans apparently

[rustic heron]

This is a threat, @pastel brook . I will make you into a minion OC and post it here.

Try me.

[rigid mural]

man.
anyway

[orchid jolt]

D:

[harsh pecan]

Lol

[keen shore]

You can see tons of chipped and faded blue paint on various stone structures, so that art isn’t too far off from what we still have. Off the top of my head the flight arches are supposed to be blue and both forest and prairie temples have a lot of blue detailing, but it’s practically everywhere. Not sure if just a design thing or actually important and notable for lore

[tulip aspen]

i mean, yes, the concreteness of the game, of the emotions we feel as we journey to Eden, that is all theme driven

it didnt matter who we were or where we were or what we were doing, because what we see are themes, themes of friendship and determination and hope and color and bringing light to dark situations and being reborn into a stronger wiser being than we were before

we dont need a narrative surrounding those themes, just simple, beautiful, images, and (launch-game) Sky is very good at that

however, there was a narrative, and though TGC removed most concrete existence of that narrative, the notion still exists

and that notion is why this chat exists.
because there was a half-finished, half-integrated story behind this notion; a dead ghost of a narrative

whatever Sky is now doesn't matter after we have played the game enough, because it's not like TGC intended for the game to be driven primarily by themes: this story originated from a narrative.
We're here in this chat to address the dead ghost of that half-dead story

some people like to make up their own continuations of that story from the bits and pieces.
some people just like archiving what we know about that story.
and i want to see what they their story supposedly is now

that's basically what lorechat is
(ig idk lol my spurt of passion is gone)

[uncut pond]

Oh, I had no idea it used to have a more concrete narrative

[orchid jolt]

what are you talking about? thats's what lorechat SAYS it is. in reality, lore chat is a bunch of random nonsense and an occasional good point......... wait no thats me

[fickle wing]

thinking abt how the story literally can b broken down to alien kid found a cool rock but took it too far

[tulip aspen]

oh yea, i recommend looking at the tom zhao archives, there's some pretty cool concept arts and timelines

here's one that i have on hand, enjoy! https://preview.redd.it/30j8jhecfae61.jpg?auto=webp&s=640347c793b27fefca6be29d349ffabbd233e1b8

[keen shore]

I just want more characterization and a full on narrative seems to usually stem from that, although me just answering “yeah, but I want to know more about everything” to the original post about theme driven narrative sounded a bit childish. It’s hard for me to phrase anything about this subject without again feeling like I’m being childish because all I can add is what I want to see yknow

[orchid jolt]

https://www.tomzhao.com/sky-all
and
https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1

[tulip aspen]

even the "king divorced" thing falls into that first category of people i mentioned at the end of my weird rant

[uncut pond]

Tbf this chat came up with gender economy and the idea to bring Sky to MatPat's (ew) attention so
Yeah there's a lot of nonsense here lol (I mean it in a light hearted way)

[tulip aspen]

that's all pretty new memes el michi, there's much older and scarier lorechat community memes, like the one i just mentioned

[keen shore]

What do you mean gender economy is real lore /j

(but, in seriousness, you can’t disprove it because we don’t know which currency the ancestors used. not only does this make the joke funnier it is also a shining example of a useless but neat piece of information I want to know for some reason)

[rustic heron]

You can give up your allegiance, or burn with the heather machines. Your choice. Also, huge /j

[orchid jolt]

yah, there are also people that cant spell their own usernames correctly!..............||wait, no. that's me again||

[fickle wing]

daleth being the one to raise the prince/king rlly feels like something a lot of lore folks or whatever forget a bunch but im sitting here w that like

[keen shore]

This is how I feel/what I imagine when people talk about me to others (I am the cat)

[fickle wing]

it lives rent free in. My head constantly and is my explanation as to why he’s not on the eden door along w the rest of the elders poor dude didn’t wanna lock away his son

[tulip aspen]

WHOA THX

[rustic heron]

I thought that was a rabbit.

[orchid jolt]

I will become one with them. I have saved the fake nitro links and now my account shall become a true bot! ||/j||

[uncut pond]

Oh yeah, just like Tails always forgets to ask Sonic where does he store all his rings, I always forget to ask this chat an important question

Where did the elders' names come from?? I guess it must be concept art?

[orchid jolt]

pretty sure it's a drawing /j

[tulip aspen]

oh no ive actually been pondering it a lot lately

we could write/animate a million headcanons on that lol, and id actually love to, but headcanons will never be a priority for me lol sad

[orchid jolt]

correct, its from concepts. but those concept names were from the Hebrew Alphabet:

[keen shore]

I want to see an animation about it, but animation is so much work and so time consuming that the thought of doing it myself fills me with dread

[rigid mural]

I like the themes sky has tbh, my fave parts were the emancipation of Valley and how we plunge towards the wastelands. Symbolizing the freedom that comes with young adulthood, and midlife existential crisis

[fickle wing]

it’s not rlly a hc tbh it’s. Right on the character info card thing 4 isle

[rustic heron]

No. We must sieze the means of production, steal the Sky source code, and make our head canon into canon, period.

[orchid jolt]

technically, its a widely accepted theory. we dont know for sure

[fickle wing]

points at

[orchid jolt]

me resisting the urge to pull up an image of flower eden because the person who made it litterally did just that which breaks the sky tos: MUST RESIST! MUST NOT UPSET MODS! MUST NOT GET BANNED

[uncut pond]

Screw that, we have to completely remake the game from scratch using an open-source engine and our own 3D models!

[fickle wing]

sobbing n crying n banging my fists on the walls over how they feel responsible for the downfall n seek approval from the prince/king again n has hope 2 heal em

[orchid jolt]

those are CONCEPTS not canon to CURRENT itteration of the game

[fickle wing]

half of the stuff pulled into this chat for evidence is concepts too so this. Has as much basis as those ngl
like that timeline someone pulled up earlier so

[rustic heron]

DM me please.

[orchid jolt]

dangit, i cant resist the urge. see you all on the other side...

[rigid mural]

Tbh Daleth isn't on the Eden gate, what krii sent could give a reason why.

[uncut pond]

Wh-
What's that???

[rustic heron]

Flower Eden.

[rigid mural]

[uncut pond]

What on earth Sky is Eden Flower...?

[fickle wing]

also looking @ how it says they became less influential n lost the respect of the ancestors
maybe at one point daleth became separated from the elders too so even if they did wanna like. Help w sealing the king they prob couldn’t

[tulip aspen]

remember children, if you answer questions about this image, you get banned

[uncut pond]

WHAT

[orchid jolt]

i heard it was because isle was planned to be more of a tutorial level

[fickle wing]

source?

[rigid mural]

Daleth is the only elder who looks absolutely disheveled before getting the light offering, maybe they didn't get sealed in the gate but had to withstand the storm ?

[lofty void]

wh whay

[uncut pond]

I have no context for any of this Eden Flower stuff please somebody explain it to me 😭

[harsh pecan]

Oh really?

[orchid jolt]

the person who made the flower eden thing broke sky's terms of service, we arent supposed to talk about it but i had to bring it up cause i have... i have no reason, pretent I had a good readon

[hollow acorn]

I'm curious about the answer

[compact shale]

the urge of getting Matpat on the case increases...

I think it's fine because even if they completely mess it up it can be an inside joke for lorechat when it comes out

From what I can tell, there were many attempts to bring the game to their attention... only to fail.

[fickle wing]

eden flower looks 2 b hacked content since the person that posted it did say whoever made it broke sky tos so

[tulip aspen]

i mean
why source, its literally a tutorial level physically and even theme wise

all the spirits there are supposed to be caring and nurturing, telling you gently where to go and what not to touch,

[rigid mural]

Light Awaits

[uncut pond]

Oh, that makes sense

[rigid mural]

Daleth is one of my faves, they like birds.

[tulip aspen]

you shall now be abnned

[rustic heron]

The reason why Daleth isn’t on the Eden door is because he puts the cereal first, then the milk.

[uncut pond]

Monster

[orchid jolt]

the flower model can be seen in the umbrella spirit's memory. they likely changed out the models of the flower and the eden diamond [how have i not been banned yet?]

[fickle wing]

shoutout 2 daleth my fav geezer
they rlly need more love tbh

[lofty void]

valley elders like salt and pepper on their apple slices, why are they on there

[rustic heron]

Daleth double dips.

[tulip aspen]

because the mods dont look in here when it matters :D

[orchid jolt]

who the heck uses milk? use saltwater like a normal sapient being.

[fickle wing]

such a funky fella

[lofty void]

sorry WHAT

[raw crypt]

geezer swag

[harsh pecan]

Who uses saltwater instead of milk

[rigid mural]

BIRD FURRY DALETH IS SO GOOD

[rustic heron]

Indeed. Electrolytes are necessary for complete cereal nutrition.

[fickle wing]

THROWBACK TO WHEN THEY WERE FULL BIRD

[lofty void]

Who the hell eats cereal with anything? i just eat straight from the box 🤨

[rigid mural]

YEAAAAHHHH

[orchid jolt]

and replace the cereal with ketchup

[hollow acorn]

I miss that vibe from back then.

[rustic heron]

I seriously wish we had gotten these as the Elders. I love their designs so much. Real Shadow of the Colossus vibes.

[fickle wing]

these old masks 4 em r so so so cool

[uncut pond]

Headcanon: all the elders secretly have fursonas and roleplay

[orchid jolt]

throwback to this form of theirs

[hollow acorn]

Dang FREAKINGLY COOL

[orchid jolt]

hebrew letter

[rigid mural]

Dalet

[lofty void]

why does this look like a honkpost

[raw crypt]

this was probably before bird masks = performers since early concepting but daleth performer history real? AHHDHDHD

[orchid jolt]

you mean a crap post?

[rustic heron]

REAL FIRST concept ART of DALETH:

[fickle wing]

gotta love how with a lot of the elders u could tell who was who even in old concepts
like with this you can still sorta tell it’s supposed 2 b ayin teth n daleth
ayin was just Round
teth n the umbrella stuck around for a while in development
and daleth just. Bird

[raw crypt]

I LOVE THAT ONE
(3) bell

[lofty void]

Don’t question my censorship methods, joyous single cell lifeform

[fickle wing]

shoutout to (3) bell

[harsh pecan]

Gods?

[orchid jolt]

and ayin, chonk. also the whole pole with a hole in it stuck around for awhile

[tulip aspen]

huh, i thought the pointy thing was a beard, but now i cant unsee it as a beak

[lofty void]

WNJSHSHDHSAHSHHS

[frigid tinsel]

this is slander, i demand an apology

[orchid jolt]

joyous [misspelled] single cell lifeform ||i misspelled amoeba in my username||

[fickle wing]

lgbt friendgroups going out to brunch

[rigid mural]

Concept daleth
WRONG PIC

[harsh pecan]

yes

[frigid tinsel]

tag yourself, I'm the chad with the zweihandler

[lofty void]

concept… valley… elders…

oh and wine mom teth

[orchid jolt]

NO. BAD. WE DO NOT ACCEPT THAT CONCEPT FOREST ELDER INTO OUR FRIEND GROUP.

[tulip aspen]

UR SUCJ A LIAR YOU MEANT IT

[rigid mural]

COWARD

[fickle wing]

why not they’re such a girlboss

[lofty void]

ISJXHHSSHHXHAHAHAHAHHA

[orchid jolt]

THEY SEDUCED CHILDREN

[frigid tinsel]

Forest Elder needs to be more unhinged like Teth was

[compact shale]

want some CANDY

[harsh pecan]

What’s wrong with that concept Forest elder?

[tulip aspen]

umbrella teth yelling "git gud" out in the fog

[fickle wing]

im just saying if they stuck around w their og idea of teth luring u down wrong paths in the forest n leaving u to die i wouldnt get past forest

[lofty void]

it was more like “hey i have candles follow me”

[compact shale]

seducing you with sky drugs /hj

[harsh pecan]

True…

[frigid tinsel]

tbh that's how it would actually transpire

[keen shore]

The issue with current teth is the fact that their furryness is debatable. You look at old concept art and then it becomes impossible to argue against

[rigid mural]

You guys are assuming teth seduced moth when really they just left a trail of candy that led deeper into the forest

[orchid jolt]

Y'ALL, THEY SEDUCED CHILDREN AND KIDNAPPED THEM! THAT WAS THEIR LITERAL LORE AND STUFF!

[rustic heron]

What we could have had:

[tulip aspen]

she had multiple possible mechanics planned, one was to lure your skid into traps that would damage you, or to trick you with illusions and shadows into going the wrong way and getting completely lost in a maze of trees in deep fog you couldnt fly in

[harsh pecan]

Yea but they still look cool so y’know…

[lofty void]

oh fun! death!

[compact shale]

teenagers aren't too young to die

[rigid mural]

Teth stole my gender, they still are a trickster

[uncut pond]

These designs were so freaking cool why did they have to change them 😭😭

[frigid tinsel]

that sounds epic and I'm sad this isn't in Live

[harsh pecan]

That’d actually be interesting to have in game

[keen shore]

This happened to me as well. I’ve never gotten it back. Please someone bring them to justice. I still don’t know where they put my gender or what they’re using it for but it can’t be good

[orchid jolt]

we actually have something in eden that seems like a mechanic from concept forest

[fickle wing]

fun fact if u put the mask thing on their shrine upside down it’s just
funny animal

[rigid mural]

CONCEPT TSADI LOOKS SO SAD ??? LET ME HUG THEM

[frigid tinsel]

concept Tsadi was gonna be half corrupted, of course they're sad

[lofty void]

i would say something about a certain individual whose name starts with M and ends with M but I’m not gonna go there…
at least, not yet

[orchid jolt]

look at the top of the forest temple entrance.

[harsh pecan]

Mem

[compact shale]

is ded

[rigid mural]

Mom ?

[frigid tinsel]

thanks for the memories, even if they weren't so great

[tulip aspen]

the way they described it, you're supposed to follow her at first, but then at some point the environment gets eerie and impossible to see in, and she just l e a v e s

after that, you'll keep seeing shadows move in the trees and hearing her calls in the distance, all intended for you to follow her towards the edges of the massive map away from the temple

[compact shale]

WHY DID MEM HAVE TO D I E

[uncut pond]

I'm seriously too new here to know half the references y'all make but I need to know
Knowledge is power and I need more power

[fickle wing]

spare gender ma’am

[rustic heron]

Dommy mommy.

[tulip aspen]

tbf i dont know who mem is either lol

[uncut pond]

W h o

[lofty void]

again with the honkposting

…imagine if you opened up sky one day and when you got to the elder cutscenes there were just. herbrew letters

[keen shore]

Laughs in aromantic and immune to Teth’s charms

[hollow acorn]

Holy-WE NEED THEM IN LIVE

[compact shale]

Oh that's eerie.

If we had that we'd probably know why Sky has such a high turnover rate.

[harsh pecan]

Anzu give them the Mem explanation

[rigid mural]

So I get censored for 🐱 girl but you can say this in front of my salad ??? /lh

[tulip aspen]

calm down lolol

[orchid jolt]

...if only...

[lofty void]

mem was a fanelder I helped make, here in lore chat

abyss killed her

[keen shore]

Someone else has discovered the censors’ catoppression.

[harsh pecan]

Ayo???

[frigid tinsel]

Mem was a fanmade Elder who murdered skykids for fun and jinkies

[rustic heron]

I can’t help if Teth slays. She’s a damn queen.

[compact shale]

ground em up for the beauty

[uncut pond]

H o w

[lofty void]

jINKIES?:!,!!2!!/ JWHDHHAHAHAH— ok but she had an adoptive daughter
who totally didn’t die and fuel her despair to the brink of insanity

[rustic heron]

Demeter in a nutshell.

[fickle wing]

thinking abt how
you’ve got that rainbow in forest
n teth is. Very fruity ngl
and how a handful of basegame spirits there r leaning on the feminine presenting side im just saying 🏳️‍🌈

[orchid jolt]

y'all are frogging lost causes... i swear, yall probably would've been on tiktoks side with freeing that serial killer because "hE wAS To CuTE tO ComMIt MuRDEr" (that was an internet hoax right?... i know it wasnt... i just want to have some hope left for you humans...)

[lofty void]

we made a whole season and stuff based off Mem and it was gonna be underwater

abyss beat us to the punch

[compact shale]

So the next quest comes out on Feb 14 aka Valentines Day

Ah yes, delving and slowly feeling yourself being squeezed and your light being abandoned you is totally valentine-y

[fickle wing]

what the hell r u talking abt what

[orchid jolt]

yah, that situation has been bothering me the longest time. i just had to vent lol.

[rustic heron]

Smother mother.

[harsh pecan]

Are you saying that because concept Teth seduced children?

[keen shore]

It would be so cool if there were krill style corrupted monsters in vault who’d gained the power of the purple light/Mind and created illusionary spirits and elders to try and lure you towards them.

Like … you see something that looks like a living ancestor and makes you question EVERYTHING, so you run after it, and before long you realize you’ve entered a tight hallway with little room to fly. Slowly, the door shuts behind you

[orchid jolt]

https://www.popbuzz.com/internet/tiktok/cameron-herrin-sentence-jail-justice/

[frigid tinsel]

tumblr banned tags be like

[tulip aspen]

i reject your giant women

i just need commodore my beloved

[fickle wing]

friendly reminder this is a sfw server 💀

[rustic heron]

It’s the lady in the red dress scene in The Matrix, but in Sky.

[orchid jolt]

...yes?

[tulip aspen]

fruity is asking me in dms if there's context that saves me from this image

well ill just say that

[rustic heron]

Daleth had a better beard. Fight me.

[harsh pecan]

This?

[uncut pond]

Ok but consider this:
Cackling Cannoneer

[rigid mural]

Lumberjack is a he/him lesbian canon

[frigid tinsel]

Cackling Cannoneer stole everyone's gender

[orchid jolt]

broken mask club. isle elder and vault elder are the leaders of it. marching adventurer and pretty much all of the abyss spirits are members

[rustic heron]

Yup. The Krill distracts you with Vault illusions, then eats you.

[fickle wing]

inchresting how director was w the rest of the troupe in the light awaits winter season but didn’t show up in live

[compact shale]

CRACKLING CACOONER

[frigid tinsel]

CACOONER

[orchid jolt]

they shot a symbol of the prince. thats a no dog from me

[fickle wing]

SO TRUE

[rustic heron]

Fool. Cannoneer is above any concept of romanticization. They only need their gun, and an insatiable@urge to shoot the universe.

[lofty void]

“I totally don’t have a favorite character type” she said nervously, as she hid her 50 drawings of Cackling Canoneer and every other chaotic alignment character she had taken a liking to

[tulip aspen]

would i really want some crazed lunatic

or would i want a caring family guy

[frigid tinsel]

Cackling Cannoneer is a bad influence on my skykid and that's a good thing

[orchid jolt]

headcanon: spirits and elders never had a concept of genders. the skykids did tho, the spirits dont understand but still want to support the children and so, days of rainbow.

[keen shore]

Me with fire prophet

[rustic heron]

I’ll be honest. When I first saw this image, I thought I was staring into the face of God.

[compact shale]

My headcanon about Crackling Canolaner is that they're the Horrifying One

[frigid tinsel]

this is the face of god

[fickle wing]

my hc is that every ancestor in sky is fruity as hell there’s like 2 cishet spirits

[harsh pecan]

Cool

[keen shore]

Once again… there is no gender. Cishet people aren’t real

[orchid jolt]

ahem, its triangles vs manta symbols. thats it. look at their hair and the symbols, and its obvious that the hair with manta symbols is better than the one with triangles

[frigid tinsel]

the two genders of Sky: triangles and mantas

[lofty void]

No seriously this is me and it’s scary

[rigid mural]

Fruitiest spirit is gloat

[rustic heron]

Your Sky kid: honks adoringly at Canonneer

Cannoneer: Shoots them, continues to eat their lunch

[tulip aspen]

yee great observation, it shows that the guide staying behind while the rest ascend became a concrete narrative they wanted to keep @compact shale 👀

[lofty void]

Honorable mentions: Thrillseeker and Blowkiss

[rustic heron]

You forgot diamonds and stars.

[fickle wing]

i was gonna. Say it was because they stayed behind w their gf (praying acolyte) but ok

[compact shale]

I have written a headcanon piece about this

TLDR; the guides think Orbit is boring and they'd rather stay

[white junco]

love wins

[keen shore]

Saw a headcanon that blow kiss is blowing kisses at the forest elder (it’s in the direction of their temple) and the idea is so funny that it hasn’t left my mind since

[frigid tinsel]

Jam & Fruity: serious lore discussion
the rest of us:

[lofty void]

Yknow what? Every spirit in Sky is fruity and you know it. You can’t hide from the truth

[harsh pecan]

Atleast that’s better than the guides being forced to stay

[rustic heron]

Valid and true. Who wouldn’t?

[uncut pond]

Chaos rocks

[rigid mural]

King how could I forget director... 😔

[keen shore]

Please no! Trying to list and add more genders is how the disaster happened in the first place!!

[fickle wing]

diversity win! the troupe director is dating an acolyte

also cute thought here one of directors hints was that they enjoy stargazing im just saying director n acolyte stargazing

[tulip aspen]

remember what happens here in lorechat at any given moment in canon to me

all of this is amazing

[compact shale]

And it's better than me pleading on their knees to ASCEND GOSH DARN IT

(because we can't just think that their staying is just a gameplay mechanic to have for people to replay quests and the yada of yadas afdsjfdngsdng)

[lofty void]

They’re all gay 🏳️‍🌈

[rustic heron]

Prarie Elder is in love with taking care of butterflies and making skykids stone toys.

[frigid tinsel]

everyone in Sky is queer, including Megabird. made in god's image

[lofty void]

We’ve cracked the code folks. All the spirits are queer icons

[hushed steeple]

Lore is oatmeal. It was dropped on the floor.

Geez we need something actually real to be revealed

[frigid tinsel]

lore is bean soup

[rustic heron]

What if Daleth was a bigot, and that’s why his mask is broken?

[lofty void]

lore is soup i am fork

[uncut pond]

Cannoneer is the classic queercoded unintentionally likeable villain

[fickle wing]

no
he’s trans and gay sorry

[rigid mural]

Credit to Slink-a-Dink for this masterpiece

[hushed steeple]

There is no greater proof that its not that deep then the state of lorechat.

[keen shore]

Resisting the urge to challenge you to a duel for even suggesting daleth is homophobic

[white junco]

there's a folkloric concept in several cultures of the first person buried in a graveyard has to stay behind to guide the following souls to the afterlife. Maybe it's similar to that?

[lofty void]

nah they have that giant rainbow in their backyard, cant be

[rustic heron]

That is true. Approved.

[compact shale]

Oooh that could be cool

But wouldnt they go when everyone's been guided with our help?

[rigid mural]

YOUR BRAIN IS THE SIZE OF A GALAXY, KING

[frigid tinsel]

i was there the day Slink blessed us with this image. highlight of my week.

[sage isle]

very dumb question

[fickle wing]

welcome to sky where the ancestors are
gay
furries (animal masks)
or both

[rustic heron]

???

[lofty void]

ask away my friend

[sage isle]

but, sky kids can't understand each other either, right? Once we light each others candles, we still can't understand. all we hear is the honks, until we give another candles to the friendship tree-

[harsh pecan]

Ye

[uncut pond]

We have emotes

[frigid tinsel]

all we, the players, hear are honks. but the honks are skykids' language.

[compact shale]

Honks are its own language that we will never udnerstand.

[sage isle]

OHHHHHHH

[rustic heron]

On the contrary, honking is a very expressive language, far too complicated for human minds to comprehend.

There are 10,000 ways to express love via honking, for instance.

[lofty void]

they’re ✨communicating✨

[sage isle]

so they communicate via emotes and honking! :0 thank y'all!

[frigid tinsel]

of course, when words don't suffice, they use their body language accompanied by fancy lights

[compact shale]

yes intonation is very important. emoting is a language too, a bit easier for humans to understand but the nuance comes from honk

[lofty void]

fumky little wax/clay creatures speak using honks. and its beautiful, nature is beautiful, gordon

[keen shore]

Whether chat itself is canon is a weird can of worms debate that I don’t have a full opinion on, so this is a mostly headcanon question. Since skykids can’t seem to form any sounds more complex than honks and their faces don’t let them make a huge range of facial expressions, the logical assumption is that most of their communication is via the emotes, and that’s why the mini light show is added - to emphasize what they’re feeling even more

[pastel brook]

Calculating the needed amount of sneep snorp for #lore-discussion-spoilers...

[rustic heron]

So now that it’s established everyone is queer, who’s in a relationship with whom?

[lofty void]

[pastel brook]

munches popcorn

[sage isle]

....could sky kids, platonicly, marry other sky kids?

[fickle wing]

prime example of a gay furry (they live in a cave)

[compact shale]

I have a headcanon
The light emotes show us that skykids have a fairly extensive lightbending ability

With enough training, a skykid can temporarily warp a small amount of light into a different color AND it would inherit the colored light's functions

[umbral sonnet]

i like to think that the piggyback glitch is canon in the lore and u can just do that to get around

[frigid tinsel]

there's no need for the institution of marriage in skykid society. skykids don't get tax write-offs when they marry

[rustic heron]

No need. They all love each other very much already.

[sage isle]

awwww

[harsh pecan]

That’s nice

[lofty void]

resh x prophecy guide /j

[frigid tinsel]

actually i love this reasoning better

[rustic heron]

Sky kid commits tax fraud.

[compact shale]

Skykids are the new tax evaders after Yoshi dies.

[sage isle]

now I shall disappear

[white junco]

skykids are unemployed, propertyless minors. they have no taxes to pay

[lofty void]

also i saw an angela pfp get back here /j

[keen shore]

I imagine the closest things to romantic partnerships as queerplatonic partnerships. Where it’s not quite platonic, not quite romantic, but somewhere outside the bounds of both definitions in a way that’s really hard to explain to anyone who doesn’t already know what I mean

[frigid tinsel]

they're not unemployed, they're child laborers. saving a whole kingdom of dead people is honest work

[umbral sonnet]

AAUGH HI

[sage isle]

they also go marching to their deaths for like $5 dollrs-

[white junco]

???? what did I do

[harsh pecan]

Yes

[rustic heron]

Sorry, I made a bad joke. You’re fine.

[fickle wing]

speaking of skykids check out these neat fellas

[white junco]

FUNKY

[compact shale]

What is it like
Outside person: How would you describe your relationship?
Inside person: Well um erm I um aghssifudufg um it's kind of like this but not quite erugh beurwrwughgghb and I um-
Outside person: What?
Inside person: Basically only (partners) and I know the answer to that question and can't explain it.

[frigid tinsel]

legs

[sage isle]

what the HONK is that red one

[rustic heron]

The chosen undead.

[fickle wing]

skykid red edition (now with horns) (and hole thru their chest)

[compact shale]

Sky: Children of Satan

[white junco]

gender

[umbral sonnet]

im ngl i thought some of them were penguins without looking closer

[frigid tinsel]

so the antichrist?

[sage isle]

wh-

[rustic heron]

Antibird, you mean.

[compact shale]

Sky: Children of PenguinLord

[sage isle]

that's some answers I wasn't expecting but here we are-

[frigid tinsel]

the child of Satan is supposed to be the antichrist, destroyer of world by bring world peace– oh no, the skids

[raw crypt]

i got out of bed to make this to spread the truth

[uncut pond]

Isle Elder: Evading taxes is a crime, child of light!
Skid: IT'S AN OBLIGATION

[white junco]

WIN

[fickle wing]

STRAIGHT UP FACTS

[rustic heron]

When Skykids take off their masks:

[frigid tinsel]

i'm speechless

[keen shore]

REAL. TRUE AND UNDEBATABLE

[sage isle]

also. I remember a member saying there could be other sky kids- like advanced sky kids-

[rigid mural]

[fickle wing]

love the trans daleth hc so much so funky to see older trans folks

[sage isle]

imagine if the next season is outer space themed

[keen shore]

Can you elaborate? Like, Sky kids who fell way before we did (we know there’s at least one) or something else?

[rustic heron]

One day all trans gold will be old trans folk.

Trans folk, but gold works too.

[sage isle]

and we get to meet different sky kids

[frigid tinsel]

the only thing that comes to mind is Chosen One, the proto-skykid who fell in Ushering Stargazer's memories, thought to have completed the Trials in the Cave of Prophecy and became king. in one way, they were "advanced" but they also led the Sky kingdom to its destruction so

[sage isle]

I'll try to remember what they said, but, sky kids that are just generally taller or more different lookin? they come from a different universe or different planet- (I remember them saying the word planet)

[sage isle]

the chosen one is the beta and the current sky kids are the alphas /j

[compact shale]

who said that? mod or dev?

[white junco]

sky into the multiverse?

[rustic heron]

It’d be funny if the Eden crystal actually worked, but someone tripped bringing the King’s tea and cakes and spilled it all over the crystal, causing the catastrophe.

[sage isle]

it was just some random member here. it was like a month ago- I think we were jokin around at the time

[white junco]

love that we're still in the skykid testing stages

[compact shale]

O H

but yeah there are jokes about "okay sending in a prototype... bruh stop worshipoing the prototype... OH NO THE PROTOTYPE CREATED AN EXPLODEY CRYSTAL"

[fickle wing]

with every new ability skykids gain its judt megabjrd making updates like
skykid patch notes

• added ability to swim

[rustic heron]

Sky Kid v1.0:

[compact shale]

CHOO CHOO PROTOTYPES! MY MANTA HAS A NEW UPDATE TO DELIVER TO YOU!

[sage isle]

"yo, did we patch the blinking bug?" since sky kids can blink now apparently

[frigid tinsel]

t'was Jam: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

[keen shore]

Skykid patch notes

• removed love for stealing things,.. not sure why that was there
• removed gender
• increased candle forging efficiency
• can now blink
• can now breathe (Update: due to unforeseen backlash and widespread horror we are now discontinuing this feature)
• short versions now fall through the world at will. This wasn’t intentional, we just don’t know how to fix it
• No longer crave collecting cool and shiny rocks (this is a precautionary measure, please understand)

[harsh pecan]

Nice

[frigid tinsel]

short versions now fall through the world at will. This wasn’t intentional, we just don’t know how to fix it
real reason why chibi falling hasn't been patched

[white junco]

I think my skykid is broken, they still love stealing things

[keen shore]

Oh no. Please send them to Eden so we can attempt to fix this

[compact shale]

how big actually is the unforeseen backlash? is it actually more than 3 peeps? (me, Jam, and Voluntary)

[frigid tinsel]

don't forget me
why does these clay inorganic beings breathe

[sage isle]

sky kids breathe? 🧍‍♀️

[compact shale]

Maybe

[rustic heron]

Patch notes: Added back breathing mechanic. Now every 10 steps, Sky kids stop, take a deep breath of air, and exhale.

[keen shore]

I instantly just assumed the bubbles were boiling water because of how hot their flame is, am still concerned about blinking and heartbeats though

[frigid tinsel]

but why are the bubbles coming out their mouths, they don't have mouths

[compact shale]

The heartbeats is the sound of our candle/soul light pulsating

[sage isle]

that. that would make 100% sense

[rustic heron]

It comes from their tear ducts.

[keen shore]

I keep getting this answer, but why does it do that. Why does it vibrate I need answers

[sage isle]

water. flame hot. whadda get? bubbles :D

[frigid tinsel]

apparently you can make candle wicks so as the candle burns, it makes noises. closest thing I can think of

[compact shale]

For those who don't believe that skykids breathe, the simplest explanation is "fire needs oxygen." The idea is that we have orifices (chest hole and eyes) where water leaks through and starts extinguishing our fire slowly. That's the no-breathing explanation on what the heck skykids need air for.

edit: According to Jam, the bubbles used to come out of your chest hole. Just pretend that's still canon, I guess...

[rustic heron]

Light has a resonant frequency. This causes vibrations, and vibrations in the air create sound. Red and orange have low wave lengths, so the sound is a deeper heartbeat.

[frigid tinsel]

could be light being forced out by the sheer amount of water trying to force it's way into an empty space, but why does it look like bubbles

[compact shale]

Yeah, the bubbles could also be light slowly noping out of us.

And why? no idea.

[rustic heron]

How sky kids eat:

[frigid tinsel]

"it's fantasy, it doesn't have to make sense!"
the science nerd in me:

[keen shore]

Additional patch notes: we have received anecdotes about various spirits attempting to use skykids’ flames to cook various foods such as rice and pasta. With no way to stop this we have decided to lean into it fully. Skykids can now manifest a packet of any seasoning or spice they desire in the same process as they manifest their candle, to give a better cooking experience. They also come with a timer so you can conveniently tell when your food is ready!

[compact shale]

Thing is, if Ash told us we could smell, I wouldn't mind too much. It gives us a way to somewhat appreciate food without having a mouth

Note: my headcanon for now is that we see, hear, and smell all through our eyes. We have ear-like and nose-like protrusions, but those don't have the orifices needed to actually function.

[rustic heron]

Better explanation: Sky kids use telekinesis to form spheres of water around air. It helps that the bubble is closer to their heads so they have more control.

[compact shale]

I mean, we can create things that look like bubbles. (Thanks Daydream Forester)

[rustic heron]

Emergency Patch notes: cooking is permanently disabled. Please wait while Hidden Forest is reconstructed. Our deepest apologies for any inconvenience this has caused anyone.

[frigid tinsel]

Forest Elder put water on a gas fire. very bad results

[harsh pecan]

Yep

[rustic heron]

It was on purpose

[keen shore]

Combining this with my boiling water idea, where the telekinesis needs a lot of effort to actually hold and slowly lets small quantities of water in, but since our flame can boil water in small quantities it becomes water vapor and doesn’t actually harm us much until the entire field gives out and water immediately attempts to flood inside us

[harsh pecan]

And then Teth gets arrested for arson

[frigid tinsel]

so who's gonna drown their skykid for research? remember to write it down or it isn't science

[rustic heron]

You can also boil water by lowering the@pressure. Creating a vacuum where only water exists could do the same thing.

[compact shale]

A thought in the back of my head
"wouldn't it be really cool if we could use Daydream to transfer lifeforce to other players"

Obviously this was not thought by lorebrain Fruity

[raw crypt]

wait what do u need a drowning skid for / what do u need recorded

sorry sometimes i am just “ill take picture for u” guy and dissapear

[keen shore]

I guess for what happens when they drown? I’m not sure we need it that badly or at all, though

[frigid tinsel]

when the breathing mechanic first dropped, people were drowning their skids in tables but no one actually committed to it and went all the way through. this is a gap in the research that must be amended.

[raw crypt]

like all wl lost all the way?
bc i have this still

[compact shale]

some of you may die but that is a sacrifice lorechat is willing to make.

[harsh pecan]

I applaud your bravery

[sinful anvil]

wondering what happened with the sunchildren (in enkanomiya) is vaguely similar to what alef went through

[rustic heron]

I will do it.

[compact shale]

and the comparisons between Sky and Enkanomiya never stops...

||what happened tho||

[tulip aspen]

what

i find it hilarious that I was the one who originally pioneered in diving into the prototype concept (that alasdair invented) when these days im trying to move away from the prototype theory, at least from affirming it too hard
(it's still extremely viable, but we shouldn't see it as absolute seeing as resh could have very well just have been a normal ancestor child)

[lofty void]

reappears

[tulip aspen]

ehe

[tulip aspen]

yes, in beta, before the dumb beta people complained that it should come out of their faces cos they're dumb

[frigid tinsel]

no to all of the above

[tulip aspen]

you've never seen a Light/Energy/Magic source/thing pulsate?
it's extremely common in fantasy and sci fi media

[keen shore]

They don’t need to do anything except go to school, but no one teaches them how to read so that need remains unfulfilled

(it took me a whole minute to type this because I couldn’t remember how to spell unfulfilled)

[compact shale]

IT WAS A COMPLAINT?!

EDIT: i wanna cry

[tulip aspen]

unfulfielfed

[harsh pecan]

Here

[rigid mural]

[keen shore]

Oh! those are fanmade names, though an elder named Sextus would be extremely hilarious to me
I’m pretty sure the artist named them Hex instead to avoid this

[compact shale]

how did you send this message

[harsh pecan]

Oh I thought you were talking about the Daleth, Ayin, Teth, Samekh, Tsadi and Lamed

[rigid mural]

Forest elder told me they go by they/them tho

[frigid tinsel]

the Elders have names from concept development that's no longer canon but a lot in the community use them:
Isle Elder – Daleth
Prairie Elder – Ayin
Forest Elder – Teth
Valley Elder(s) – Samekh (they share a name)
Wasteland Elder – Tsadi
Vault Elder – Lamed

[keen shore]

True I need to make it gender neutral. Sextum

[compact shale]

HOW ARE YOU SENDING THESE

[harsh pecan]

[keen shore]

I don’t know, I was fully expecting them to get eaten by the censor

[rigid mural]

HELP

[harsh pecan]

What are you confused about? The names?

[frigid tinsel]

there's a censor in this Discord server and it's a pain

[rustic heron]

Hey @tulip aspen , what was the company that made Fortnite?

[keen shore]

Shoutout to Romans for literally naming their kids numbers for some reason

[tulip aspen]

Hey @rustic heron, w h y?

[rustic heron]

Seems like a loaded question.

[keen shore]

each other

[tulip aspen]

my question or yours???

[frigid tinsel]

the Valley Elder(s) like salt and pepper on their apple slices

[harsh pecan]

Ayo

[rustic heron]

Yes.

[keen shore]

Everyone is misunderstanding me. I mean fruits like gay people

[frigid tinsel]

i think i understand quite well

[tulip aspen]

im still misunderstanding you 🤣

[keen shore]

I thought I did but I guess I’m too ace to understand the… other? interpretation

[harsh pecan]

Thank god they don’t like eating eachother

[tulip aspen]

is that really how ace works tho-

im burninh

[rustic heron]

The term is fruitcake.

[keen shore]

It sounds like everyone reacting to my original no context message thought it was an innuendo so maybe, although not sure

[frigid tinsel]

i get it but i'm ace too just it was a trip finding that out so i understand too much

[tulip aspen]

ohhhh then yeah we're misunderstanding you, your first and second comment absolutely look like innuendos fam

im saving this because it's funny btw

[keen shore]

I couldn’t tell what everyone thought I meant so I couldn’t explain it in a non cursed way ESPECIALLY in an sfw server

[rustic heron]

This is like watching two excellent pilots dogfighting, They're both aces, and they both keep missing.

[lofty void]

HAHAHHXHSHAHAH

[tulip aspen]

could you explain the actual intention in dms or something cos I'm genuinely interested in spite of the innuendo i immediately dove into the gutter with

[rapid arrow]

Hello, so I am very interested in everything with the vault of knowledge anyone know anyone fun little lore? Tidbits

[rustic heron]

Mindspace theory is a lie. Dimensional Space theory is a joke. /j

[keen shore]

“Fruit” used to be a common slur for gay people, now it sounds so ridiculous very few people take it seriously hence the jokes, it’s not inappropriate in the least

[harsh pecan]

You stay here and learn, or read the docs

[tulip aspen]

oh
i
i wont explain my version of the sentences you said

[harsh pecan]

But useful

[frigid tinsel]

earlier i shared some concept art of the Vault that may pique your interest: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

[compact shale]

that's why I changed my username to Fruitzie

[tulip aspen]

[frigid tinsel]

wait, you're not gay?

[compact shale]

Nope, check my bio

[rustic heron]

You can still use "Fruit" as a name. It's the only word in the English language to describe edible plant uteruses.

[frigid tinsel]

ayo, aces represent

[rapid arrow]

Ooo thank you, the Vault of Knowledge brings me much comfort so I want to know everything about it of course

[lofty void]

HOW DID THE BOT NOT—

[rustic heron]

I am God here, child. Not really, I'm just slightly more lucky.

[frigid tinsel]

before the censor (and a mod) was beaning Lapis so hard I made a meme out of it

[tulip aspen]

salem and lapis be winning

[rustic heron]

It'll happen again eventually. I have a knack for ticking off the censor.

[compact shale]

LAZULI-

[keen shore]

Update: the word lapis has been banned /j

[lofty void]

where did yall get the immunity, the censor bonked me for posting a meme that was of me spinning around my friend in sky as “deja vu” played in the background

[rustic heron]

If that happens, I'll have to revel the forbidden knowledge.

[tulip aspen]

via the mindspace theory
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B5N140v47F1FLuWHHRITYwEiLbptLZQFf0Lph-57XDE/edit?usp=drivesdk

whenever we sit at the white circles, we are meditating, and are then given visions.
these visions range from small hallucinations in the real world, such as the confetti at the races, to entering a dreamlike stance where our conscious goes to a "pocket dimension" of sorts, such as when we meet the elders

vault, the infamous library and elevator up to Eden, seems to be a mixture of both however.
the crystal above us doesn't seem to just power the elevator, but might also either create hallucinations in our mind, or power massive projections throughout the floor
after the first floor, it's completely unclear which floors are real or not

floor 2 very likely may be real, but some features of 2 persist into floor's 3 and 4.
perhaps those platforms seen closer to the elevators are still actually real? they are visually brighter and more concise than the floating structures and islands further off...

.
a stretchy hypothesis could be that from floor 2 it's all either in our head or all hallucinations, but that the crystal above us gets weaker and weaker until the illusion isn't realistic anymore

or perhaps it gets stronger and stronger every floor, either warping reality around us harder and harder every time we meditate under it, or sinking us deeper into a lucid dream happening in our mind until we aren't even getting up anymore but think we are because it's happening in the dream

personally, id like to think it's at first just an illusion, and floor 3 is happening in a normal room with the trees being hallucinations, but floors 4-6 being completely within dreams, but at the same time this isnt that realistic

[keen shore]

I have a mental list of confusing censored words and I am adding to them daily

[compact shale]

NOOOOOOOOO

LAPIS MEANS PENCIL IN MY NATIVE LANGUAGE

[lofty void]

pencil lazuli

[rustic heron]

Isn't that lapiz?

[compact shale]

I'm Filipino, not Spanish or Italian.

[frigid tinsel]

I stopped playing Sky to make this

[lofty void]

HAHHDHXHAHSVXHHAHAHAH

[keen shore]

Catperson is fine but neither gendered version of it is. Found this out the hard way attempting to call the valley twins catpeople

[compact shale]

Catelders?

[lofty void]

cateLDERS-

[keen shore]

This censor may attempt catoppression, but we will always find new catterms in our catrebellion /j

[lofty void]

JAHHDGXHWHHAHA THIS CHAT IS GONNA KILL ME

[rustic heron]

I think you mean Catrabellion:

[tulip aspen]

the mods are going to murder us all you fools

[keen shore]

They may try to kill me. But a cat has 9 lives and I will always come back

[rustic heron]

We'll distract them by causing undue chaos in gen chat.

[compact shale]

you fools. we're gonna get oofed.

[frigid tinsel]

we may not be able to swear in this server but we know the Valley Elder(s) teach skykids curse words in exchange for a light offering

[lofty void]

JAHHDHSHHWHAHAHHSHS

[keen shore]

I know, trying to make it clear that I’m not serious in this and just messing around

[rustic heron]

Watch me swear:

[frigid tinsel]

tbf we can say hell and damn now but at what cost? can't even say gendered cat persons

[lofty void]

JHAHSHXHSHAHHAHA LAPIS YOURE GONNA GIVE ME A HEART ATTACK I SWEAR TO GOD

[rustic heron]

I call dibs on your Sky account.

[compact shale]

GayHECK? rainbowHECK? what am I looking at?

[keen shore]

I wonder if saying nya is banned

Edit: it is not. Our catbattlecry has been found

[lofty void]

clearly its not

[rustic heron]

No swearing Fruit 😦

[lofty void]

nya~ catelderz

[rustic heron]

I HAVE A STRONG NEED TO SEE TETH DOING CUTE CAT POSES AND SAYING "NYA".

[compact shale]

DRAW IT YOURSELF

[keen shore]

I have been considering drawing teths hypothetical lynx fursona in order to practice digitigrade leg anatomy

[lofty void]

…ayo bet

[frigid tinsel]

someone made art of that on tumblr I can guarantee it 100%

[compact shale]

oh boi

[tulip aspen]

pls no

have you all finally tired yourselves out?
usually when chat dies im supposed to flood it with important thoughts and theories for us to discuss or old ponderings about how our efforts worked in the past

but feels weird making it go from fun to boring again

[rustic heron]

I will murder the lore chat with one phrase: Nyaleth.

I desperately want a lore-filled season. Something that gives us something concrete.

[compact shale]

not enough for you?

[violet sundial]

No season will be enough until the Season of Miku

Goodbye 🚪

[rustic heron]

I'm a Prince/Flight moth, so I missed the good lore seasons. I really want something that expands on the Elders a bit more. Or something with some excellent pants.

[compact shale]

SCREAM

[lofty void]

nyamed

Nyayin?? Nyeth??? Nyamekh? Nyadi?????

n-nyesh…?

immediately gets yeeted out the window

[compact shale]

yeets you off a second window

[half shadow]

Nyalef

[pastel brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[compact shale]

Credit to BariBJam

[tulip aspen]

no
i dont want it laid on thick tho via just murals or god forbid text either

i want to see characters in the past struggle in their own cinematic story, but in a way that helps us understand a lot more about what happened around them

[compact shale]

Ah, cinematic... darn that rarely happens

Dreams was the closest to that

[tulip aspen]

about the elders
we could have gotten a real juicy one in the LITERAL ARCHIVE OF THE KINGDOM THAT DOCUMENTS IT'S ENTIRE HISTORY, but nope we got to go to a psychiatric ward to meet an alien that talks in poetry and has beef with his ex who's also a plant

[tulip aspen]

bare minimum of closest, and we'll never reach that again (for now ig)

[compact shale]

Yeah... WHAT HAPPENED TO OPENING MEMORY CUBES ARRETEURUEGUWEGHWHWR

[tulip aspen]

THEY COULD HAVE BROUGHT MOON GLYPHS BACK

YOU HAVE ALL THESE ASSETS FROM LA TGC

[compact shale]

TGC
GIVE US LORE-REVEALING ITEMS

MAKE THE LANTERN PROJECT SOMETHING DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU PUT IT

[lofty void]

… what

edit: took me 1 min to realize you’re talking about the Little Prince

[green obsidian]

hopefully next season we get more lore, maybe like a sort of ethereal greenhouse in vault where the memories of the long extinct plants of sky are preserved in the form of ghostly trees and fields

tgc please we need more lore there are so many unanswered questions pleas-

[thin dirge]

I still remember it as clear as day, when theere were screams of pain and despair when ppl here realized it was a collab season

[compact shale]

THERE'S NO LORE IN , OUT WITH YOU /hj

We know that the location of Starlight Desert is real, and that it has a wind path, meaning that the ancestors found an actual purpose to that place

Sorry If I'm beating a dead horse, but WHAT ON EARTH COULD IT BE

[crystal cape]

This channel goes beyond my brain

[compact shale]

Yeah, it does that

[thin dirge]

Wait, we can reference real life history here, right?

I was typing about something for a while, lol

[compact shale]

What's the topic about?

[thin dirge]

A certain part of Sky's history possobly paralleling "Roaring 20's" and the "Great Depression". Which are represented by Valley and GW

Hmm, Ill finish my essay, I was typing for a while about this

[green obsidian]

wait, this might be dark but,

maybe the starlight desert is like a prison

we only see four spirits in but they all never seem to have met eachother in the desert and are isolated in their little spaces, each absorbed in their own thoughts and not caring about anyone who visits (apart from drunken dude who might've cared before drinking a hundred pints of dark water)

what did these spirits do to end up having to be contained in their own personalised space with little to no contact with anyone for the rest of their lives?

edit, wait sorry, I mean six spirits

[thin dirge]

Oh yeah, speaking of lore, there was something I realized about Valley and GW....

I have this long standing theory that the realms and their order represent progression of the timeline of the Kingdom of Sky. Since they represent stages in civilisation as well as stages of life.

This gave me more of a rough understanding of what the Kingdom went through just making it based off of what realm you're looking at and what's in it, sort of reflecting what happened.

With this assumption, is it just me, or does there seem to be parallels here to ours? Valley seems to be Sky's equivalent of the "Roaring 20's" Era, with GW kinda representing the "Great Depression" and "WW2" afterwards.

Think about it. If the realms represents specific points in time of Sky's history (symbolism, but not literally), Valley is clearly meant to represent the peak of civilisation. And with how Valley is focused on races and competition, it seems to kinda reflect something like the "Roaring 20's" in our era. An era of great prosperity and ppl just did whatever fun they wanted.

Afterwards, "The Great Depression" hit, which was kinda caused by the "Roaring 20's" previously, and WW2 also happened during that. And remember... GW is a battlefield, one of the most common theories about it back then was that there was a civil war that took place there.

So could there be parallels here?

[harsh pecan]

This reminds me of another theory 👍

[harsh pecan]

This is pretty interesting, if we look at the years before and after those two eras, does that mean Eden is ww2?

[thin dirge]

GW seems to be both WW2 and "The Great Depression". Because GW is clearly a battlefield, indicating some conflict or war happened. At the same time, how it seems to represent "Mid-life crisis" and the collapsing of society. (but not the total destruction yet, thats Eden)

GW seems to kinda fit "The Great Depression" and "WW2" because both events kinda happened very close to each other irl. And GW seems to depict both of that. Plus, if this is the case, it would be interesting if the degrading resources or maybe lack of jobs was what fueled the "war" in GW in the first place. It seems interconnected.

[harsh pecan]

Ohhh yea

[thin dirge]

If we make these parallels, maybe the prosperity during the Kingdom's peak was what eventually led it to its downfall

[harsh pecan]

Yes

[rustic heron]

Damn, I've never heard anyone do LP that dirty before. Brutal.

[compact shale]

The deader the author, the easier it is to roast.

[serene cradle]

Because you're not worried about them catching wind of what you're putting down.

[tulip aspen]

i only speak the truth my friend

[median stone]

Wait

Does chesca got hacked? That guy always send me nitro thingy, i dont want to open it... I find sus.. Coz they always said the same word...

Take it bro...
Take it bro...

[compact shale]

Chesca's account got hacked. They're banned now because of that. That's why they're not here anymore.

[tulip aspen]

chesca got hacked, please dont click on links like that from anyone

[median stone]

Uff... Nice... So, wheres she now

[compact shale]

In King Propaganda headquarters.

[median stone]

Its been too long i left lore chat

What headquarters?

[compact shale]

Would you like me to send an invite link? It's a server

[median stone]

Yeah why not

[tulip aspen]

the actual desert (the dunes we follow the prince into towards eden) seems to be the path poor ancestors had to take to climb up the mountain towards Eden

after all, vault was likely only accessible to VIPs, royals and nobles, and elders, so the only way up the mountain was either via boat... or on foot....

[compact shale]

Oohh, so it makes the pilgrimage easier, got it

That makes sense

Man I wonder what Edening yourself looked like back then

[quick terrace]

A much less rocky journey perhaps..

[tulip aspen]

what do you mean by edening?
dying?

[median stone]

Yeah i guess

[compact shale]

"Finishing the pilgrimage and getting exported up to Orbit"

[median stone]

Basically offering your soul = Edening?

Lol what happen now, this cooldown

[compact shale]

Yep, lorechat needs it now so that theories don't die in 5 seconds due to lack of acknowledgement

[median stone]

Huhu i miss Brick's era in lore chat

[compact shale]

🧱🧱
🧱🧱

[median stone]

Emmm that one King of lore at that time?

[lofty void]

bricks

[tulip aspen]

hm, i still speculate that the intended purpose of the Eden diamond was for the prince to "send everyone home"

so it would be a massive space elevator that shoots beings of Light back into the Sky

that's what I've been thinking the prophecy means anyways

[compact shale]

Why didn't space elevator work?

[rustic heron]

Here you go:

[tulip aspen]

i mean it kinda
exploded

[tulip aspen]

lapis you monster

[compact shale]

Lapis has resigned to their fate. They are now perishing as bubbles escape from their... idk

[rustic heron]

Science doesn’t reward cowardice.

[lofty void]

Dang yall really said “i’m ready to get myself killed for science”

[compact shale]

That's just lorechat!

[compact shale]

Of course, rebirth helps compensate for the erm... repercussions of this

[rustic heron]

I just finished my weekly Eden run, so that's why I decided to do it.

[compact shale]

Anyways... your sacrifice will never be forgotten.

Here's a candle and a heart. Use it to send your bird to therapy, I don't think they liked participating in this experiment. 🕯️❤️

[tulip aspen]

i think it'd be inadvertent parallels if anything, which would not make it one of the first times Sky has amazing metaphors and game mechanics that should be applauded but TGC never actually intended on

very poetic how similarly they do match up, that really does indeed show the worldbuilding parallels the writers of Sky's story subconsciously made to real U.S. events

[tulip aspen]

yes, we've concluded it either was

1. a prison
2. a ward
3. a dangerous no-man's land due to hallucinatory-diamond pollution
4. a no-man's land like #3 that was turned into a prison or ward

[rustic heron]

Or maybe it's just a nice desert with a flower garden full of roses.

I doubt Vault is any sort of prison. You wouldn't lock up criminals next to the entirety of your civilizations history.

[tulip aspen]

well, vault isnt a prison, but starlight is technically it's own realm, similar to abyss, enchantment, and sanct

also maybe flight too idk

[rustic heron]

I mean, GW is a desert. It's not a stretch to imagine that Vault is surrounded by desert too. Starlight desert could likely be another projection emanating from the Vault. The four spirit in the desert somewhat mirror the Elders; Gloating Narcissist is even wearing something akin to the Valley Elders' clothing.

[tulip aspen]

starlight in general is far off to the side of the mountain, no one would find these people, they're isolated

[thin dirge]

Wait, YALL HAVE A LORE SERVER!?!?!?

[tulip aspen]

yep, all of the spirits were actually intended to have clothes mimicking each of the elders, was really cool to have

and yeah the idea of vault affecting this place is where my "hallucination pollution" term comes from

[tulip aspen]

I'm sure there's a million lore servers lolol

[rustic heron]

I can't believe I missed it. I really like narcissist's pants too. My regret is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.

[tulip aspen]

yep narcissists pants are a direct copy of the valley elder bodysuits

[thin dirge]

Lore doesnt seem to be noticed by a lot of players tho. Those who do seems most likely to drop eventually. A lot of ppl Ive seen here kinda dropped out of Sky, at least seems to

[compact shale]

Uhh, it's more of a "Lorechat's inside jokes" server

Or a "Lorechat's break room" server

[rustic heron]

Wait, that means potentially we can still have a season with Teth's pants, since it hasn't been done yet. Or event better, Vault's dress.

[tulip aspen]

yeah they all go eventually

[thin dirge]

Oh, lol. So thats where all the jokes in this server went

[tulip aspen]

where they came from, more like

[thin dirge]

Im probs one of the last few people who came here during Sanctuary and is still here

I did kinda drop out at one point, but I never forgot Sky's lore

[rustic heron]

I was playing MHW during Sanctuary, and was not aware Sky existed.
So basically I'm a lore veteran.

[thin dirge]

Wait, how old is the server?

[rustic heron]

2.5 years or so.

[green obsidian]

I first started playing sky during enchantment, I started getting interested in the lore when prophecy came along, and then joined the server probably near the end of tlp

[thin dirge]

Ah, so thats where they came from then. Idk if I heard of that server while I was here tho. I may have, but it may have? I dont remember, oof

[tulip aspen]

lapis, we're talking about KP not skyfficial

[rustic heron]

Ah, so closer to 1000 years old. Gotcha.

[thin dirge]

....Im starting to miss Bricky now

[compact shale]

LAPIS-

[lofty void]

LAPIS

[rustic heron]

Invite me to lore server so that I may destroy it participate in insightful lore discussion.

[compact shale]

That channel isn't really active in KP...

[rustic heron]

Today keeps getting better and better. I had to run through Eden with one wing, I learned I missed Valley pants, and now the lore channel in a mysterious serer I just learned about is already dead.