lore-discussion-spoilers

[orchid jolt]

one, its not allowed in this channel.
Two, if you are going to do it anyway, which you shouldnt, at least be curtious and say that the message is about beta stuff then spoiler the rest of the message

[stark marten]

Some of the screenshots are from the beta version of a quest that has not been released in live yet though, that shouldn't be posted here yet. Even if it has changed, we wouldn't know that technically because the quest cannot be done in live right now that makes it still beta content

[analog vapor]

Ahhh ok forgot about that heheh

[orchid jolt]

agreed.

[feral leaf]

Oof I think it's best you delete it now rear

[analog vapor]

I did already

[orchid jolt]

thx!

[feral leaf]

Don't wanna be mean but if I scroll up I can still see them might wanna double check 😅

[analog vapor]

Oop

[thin dirge]

Its the early version of the Seasonal area tho... Is talking about outdated versions of beta not allowed here now?

I thought its fine as long as its not future content, and talking about outdated stuff in beta is alright...

[orchid jolt]

The thing is, something about a quest was mentioned, and since the end of the trailer has that dark theme to it, it's possible that the early version will be the one used later in the live version. I'd say it's wise to talk about it after the season ends or tell people you want to talk about beta stuff in the beta general channel (or something) and to join you there if they want to talk about it.

[thin dirge]

Oh, ok

(Huh, no wonder this chat is krilled so often, its because of that annoying 1 minute cooldown... Whats up with that? Its been like that for ages!)

[fluid robin]

This looks like the spirit we first relive in Isle. The one in the tutorial?

[neat flint]

Their hair is different

[orchid jolt]

The hair is from the saluting caption but the body matches base game whisperers and some other spirits, one being candle maker. But no spirit that I found has both that body and that hair.

[thin dirge]

Probs a random spirit

[hushed steeple]

its almost 12am and I feel so tired so im just gonna say my theories if thats okay WhAT IF- all of these seasons... are leading up to a final season.. or maybe not season but the end of the story like y'know how most games tend to have endings within there stories? what IFFFF every season of sky is slowly directing us to the final piece of knowledge. Like in cave of prophecy you can see ||a known elder and another unknown elder. who are they? they've been in cave paintings|| season of sanctuary paintings, and I believe in some other areas aswell but it seems as if ||they're fighting, or something..|| hohohoh

[shut musk]

Is this a reference from an animation that was on netflix? I forgot the name and a movie but I do remember the character and this type of style.

[feral leaf]

The last season is entirely based on the book le petit Prince as it was a Collab if thats what you are refrecning?

[shut musk]

No clue I was just trying to figure it out

[half shadow]

The Netflix thing you’re talking about is a movie based off of an old book called The Little Prince. The movie is a lot different from the book.

[thin dirge]

I could see some inspiration from the movie itself too
btw, I missed out on the whole season :D

[rigid mural]

I think the TLP theme we hear is from the movie.

[thin dirge]

Hmm, considering how Sky is based off of TLP, I can see some inspiration from the movie ver. in Sky's concept timeline/story

[neat flint]

The fox backpack is inspired from the movie

[thin dirge]

Well, its a collab, but I mean the game as a whole.

Like how in the movie the Prince grew up and forgot being a child and needed reminding while in the Sky concept, its the same thing we do for the Prince who became corrupted King, as we save them in Eden

[rigid mural]

Sky itself isn't based off TLP, at least not only. Raider did point out that the crossover expanded the horizon of what we could compare the game to (stories and children's books), but it doesn't mean that they are the same.

In the game, TLP spends his time questioning adults and mourning the Rose, feels less like a story about adults being children at some point too. We could parallel that with us living in the ruins of "adults" (ancestors) and feeling a sense of loss as we thread among ghosts...

I also don't think the little prince is comparable to the King or Prince in sky despite the titles
At least, not the way we know them right now.

[feral leaf]

It's butters interpretation but I agree with Vela here

[harsh pecan]

It’s most likely the King

[harsh pecan]

It’s called The Little Prince, the style used resembles the one in the movie (I think)

[cedar sun]

Uhh I have a question, every since the season of flight was released I get to see different breed of birds in sky, but what ever struck me the most is the paper plane birds in bird's nest. I'm just wondering if they're actually paper or were brought to life? That's all

[feral leaf]

I am not sure however all light creatures are a manifestation of light coming together to form those creatures

[hushed steeple]

I don't think paper exists in the world of Sky

[wraith flower]

We write on de wall (I mean DRAW)

[hushed steeple]

Yes, but paper as a medium doesn't exist in Sky

[boreal nebula]

Hello LORE, I've not yet explored the season Flight area but I'm curious

How many entrances to Flight have you spot on the 6 Realms?

[neat flint]

6

[bitter crag]

Wait there are other entrances!?

[boreal nebula]

I know of the main entrances:

• from Forest Social area
• from the Cave Of Prophecies (the sunny area among clouds at the top of the cave)
• from underground cave below Sunny Forest
• from Enchantment Ark

which else did I miss?

[neat flint]

There's one at Sanctuary, Hermit Valley, Forgotten Ark and Starlight Desert

[hushed steeple]

It connects all the seasonal areas, interesting Do you think the previous seasons will play a part in this season's quests? Or the storyline in general?

[boreal nebula]

So are they all connected to Seasonal Areas?

[bitter crag]

[neat flint]

It's like Aviary but connected to seasonal areas

[boreal nebula]

So we should seek one entrance in Sanctuary too?

[hushed steeple]

…maybe…? I think I need to see the trailer again to be sure

[neat flint]

Oh yeah sanctuary too (near the waterfall high above the clouds)

[bitter crag]

Oh wht of the blue force field thingy….or is that meant to be discovered later

[boreal nebula]

Underground cave
And
Forgotten Ark

[boreal nebula]

Do you have any picture of that?

I was there last night but I must have missed that

[hushed steeple]

There might a pathway around Sanc too Also I got an excuse to see the trailer again

[neat flint]

A close look

[hushed steeple]

…blue…force field…?

[boreal nebula]

..no signpost there? Sneaky devs

[neat flint]

Yeah there are only signposts at Cavern, Hermit Valley and Cave of Prophecies

[boreal nebula]

And to think my original idea from months before 1 YEAR AGO (actually) it was announced was that the wind signpost above the Sanctuary Bells was pointing to somewhere

[neat flint]

But its design is different from Flight ones

[boreal nebula]

Yes, but since I discovered Sanctuary (I was a moth) by following the signpost ... the only one I couldn't connect with anywhere was that single singpost 🔔

[boreal nebula]

Is there a singpost in Starlight Desert too?

[feral leaf]

Were is the one in cave of prophecies located?

[neat flint]

Fly up and there's a cleft

[feral leaf]

Ty!

Do we know if there's one at assembly's treehouse area or does the only wind path connect to the cave under sunny Forest?

[boreal nebula]

It could be interesting to take a look, but I now that I think of, there is no guarantee that all Seasonal map will be connected

After all even the Caves on the left side of Prairie once were a seasonal from Gratitude, but back then maybe the seasons were just scattered among the realms

[feral leaf]

True If nobody else is on rn I'll check

[vagrant fjord]

What do you think the sky kids are made of?

[boreal nebula]

Maybe Rythym was the last scattered season and Enchantment the first main area

Although there were the Elemental Lights

[feral leaf]

Yeah I generally see rhythm as the last scattered season

[arctic spire]

if u see theres a tunnel that haven't open yet on top cave prophecy where theres bench on midle sky. u think it will connect to this new season?

[feral leaf]

Weve noticed were trying to figure out if ALL season areas are connected cus alot of them are :D they have the blocked of wind paths

[thin dirge]

Except, the devs said it themselves. When they released TLP, they said Sky is based off of the feelings of TLP, and you could see a lot of things about Sky that's somewhat based off of it

[boreal nebula]

Rock, very solid rock, and maybe even with a certain electro magnetic capacity, to store alot of energy inside and to able to repel minor hit without a scratch even if Eden rocks hurts us, without breaking us ( sort of like atoms hit with each other,but not really, unless a very big and fast hit☢️ )

[thin dirge]

If I were to recall, when it was getting released, I think in #news at the time, it said Sky was based off TLP in a sense
(Im gonna have to find it again)

[feral leaf]

So I've checked and I think we can rule Assembly treehouse out I do not think there is a wind path here although other can feel free to continue searching

[neat flint]

On their Instagram, they have a series that explain why they chose the little prince to collab with and why it is important

There are also many concept arts of the season

[feral leaf]

Someone said that there is a flight path in the starlight desert anyone know where it is the area is big and I have no direction lol

[neat flint]

It is near the Beckoning Ruler’s island on the right

[vagrant fjord]

Yea, but which rock?
My guesses are pomice rock or obsidian, cuz both have a strong termal resistance. But, one is less denser than water, which make it float and the other, is very resistant to impacts, respectively.

So, I still don't know

[feral leaf]

Not the most logical option but I've always imagine were made of clay lol

[thin dirge]

Yeah, watched the first part and Jenova said that TLP is a fundamental piece that Sky took inspiration from

[neat flint]

So butter still got a point tho.

[rigid mural]

(and @neat flint)
Well my bad then. I don't really watch streams or follow the devs on social media, most of what they say, I learn secondhand here lol.

[rigid mural]

Spirit in lumberjack's memory (that can be found in tearful light miner's as well) has a book.

[boreal nebula]

Beckoning Ruler, you say? Around the little lamp among the clouds??

[neat flint]

It’s close to the little planet tunnel and also the island

Wait I can get a pic for better explanation

[feral leaf]

I managed to find it I've got a pic with me if it's taking you a while!

[rigid mural]

Beckoning Ruler is the one whose island looks like a crown !

[boreal nebula]

That yellow hole there?

[neat flint]

It’s pretty hard to notice

Too many clouds

[boreal nebula]

Okay, sadly I cannot spot the lantern/lamp among the clouds anymore, relatively to my pic it should be looking down in front of me, sometime popping out of the clouds for some seconds

Has it been patched out?

[jade river]

this confirms that the starlight dessert is indeed canon to the sky lore...?

[neat flint]

This season is like a lore addition to the past seasons

[boreal nebula]

Mmm idk, Sanctuary had some cosmetics more Modern like IRL because it was a pause to take us away of COVID-19

So not all is canon... Also remember that Vault is dreamscape/filled with memories so...

It could be similar to something in real sky, but more dreamlike

[feral leaf]

I think that the area and the spirits are canon but the prince and the main quests aren't, that's just what I believe tho ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[neat flint]

This makes me have a theory about the starlight desert

[quick terrace]

speak

[boreal nebula]

The area could be a memory of the same distance area we saw in the Switch trailer, those desertic lands with just rivers

But since Vault its about the growing old stage of aging, almost ready to dying, it could be the reason it's all barren and spirits theme gloomy and dark

[neat flint]

Starlight desert is a dream like my last theory about the vault
The desert we’re experiencing is an illusion. I can imagine the desert being like wasteland

[boreal nebula]

Though it seems the farest from that Eden mountain view, wasteland should be more closer. As I said it remind me of the distant lands from that cinematic trailer

But drid out by the time of the senile age

[quick terrace]

Should also be noted that the tagline for it “Where dreamlike worlds collide” really adds to that whole dream thing

[boreal nebula]

Yeah, where planets/asteroids turns into a "islands"

[boreal nebula]

Oh, I didn't notice till now, beside the broke gian pipe below the barrack in Eden (the exit of the first area) there are 2 pipes too on the right side in the background

[nimble ingot]

is the oob there the same area as the rest of eden?
Just asking

[jade river]

i had a theory that states that the starlight dessert is a realm with anomalous properties, related to the prince's storyline and sky's storyline could be seen as a sort of "mental prison" in which the greatest weaknesses of people are the jails of the spirits

aside from that i cant fit the area into the lore xD

[boreal nebula]

I just realized, that if it will ever be a tunnel leading to Assembly Treehouse, even if it's not an official Social Area, it will become the key nexus, the most connected map

[celest spoke]

the lore timeline is gonna get complicated in terms of the cloud tunnels being retconned into the seasonal areas— it would be tragic if the Ark crew could’ve gotten out of there if they could only fly… though possibly similar issues wrt the original ferrybost from main GW— who set that up and when? Why didn’t they escape with that?

[thorny folio]

interesting, maybe since the lore teaser ended with the paths becoming corrupted, that's why?

[rigid mural]

I think it's fitting forest got a network of tunnels as shortcuts to different places, but getting lost is easy. Perhaps it was meant to be misleading after all...

[orchid jolt]

Guys, you know how Eden is in ruins? Well, It's gotten more decrepit...

[soft oxide]

You guys, are you talking about the end part of the trailer for this season? Its scary

[orchid jolt]

(this was from the isle cutscenes lol. Probably some weird bug tho)

[orchid jolt]

There are several ideas, some think that it's opening up a way to get and letting a krill in. I'm betting on it being Eden. The light creatures do need a path to Eden, even if its dark and scary.

[soft oxide]

Ooooooooh.. eden would be a great idea.. then when you travel to the eden tunnel, you are spotted by a krill rightaway.. hahaha.. i’d get a heart attack

[thorny folio]

I just wrote something up about how it could relate to the time stasis theory

[thorny folio]

oooh

[neat flint]

The first pic looks like cave of prophecies

[thorny folio]

mountains maybe? for the last one

[orchid jolt]

It's from the wind paths. I think it's the dark filter they may use as evidenced by the end of the trailer
Edit: accidentally said aviary so I fixed it

[thorny folio]

ohh ok

[orchid jolt]

Woops, not aviary, meant the wind paths

[flat mist]

I found a passage entrance in cave of prophecies at the top. i wonder when its gonna open?

[neat flint]

When it's time

[hushed steeple]

I just followed a wind path into Sunny Forest underground

[rigid mural]

Could simply happen with the Ark tunnel. There's a krill around here after all.

[hushed steeple]

I hope theres gonna be a wind path to ark because brbrbr I hate flying there and taking the stupid slow boat and doing the stupid slow flying across the dessert.

[rigid mural]

This whole wind tunnel thing... I'm gonna need to update and refine my map, but the position of the wind paths on the right of the social area places it very conveniently within reach of a good chunk of the kingdoms...

What I mean by "within reach" is that it's on the inside part of the spiral, so you could draw paths going to and from this place without huge detours. I wonder if these would be more like trading routes then...

What if the wind path islands drifted with the winds ? Not so drastically as to change realms altogether, but enough for the place to be elusive enough (as long as clouds hide it) to avoid more forceful attempts at industrialization or even submission if the spirits that wanted to use darkstone were in power ?

That could explain its... sudden appearance, since there was not even a cloud there before the update lol.

[orchid jolt]

there is, you can see it in ark. just explore some areas and find a currently closed tunnel

gonna repost something

Guys, you know how Eden is in ruins? Well, now it's gotten even more decrepit...

(this was from the isle cutscenes lol. Probably some weird bug tho)

[hushed steeple]

Visual bug I do believe!

[rigid mural]

Yeah, it was reported.
Isle isn't the only place the castle is missing too; you can see that from Valley too. Eerie...

[hushed steeple]

And in the wind paths too haha.

[rigid mural]

I think it's pretty much everywhere, I just don't want to double check.

[hushed steeple]

||Minecraft World border|| 😅
(It’s a bad joke I know)

[hushed steeple]

Maybe TGC pressed the big red button that made Eden go kaboom

[orchid jolt]

if you think about it, do the wind paths really count as part of forest? I mean, they have tunnels to all of the realms, just because the first one we find is in forest it doesnt mean its all just part of forest...

[hushed steeple]

That is true. Maybe the island in general is above forest. And then the wind paths stretch out into the different realms.
Makes me question how the wind paths were created.. were they all clouds, or did the clouds come to cover the paths after the wind stopped?

[half shadow]

The Wind Paths seems like it’s more of a middle point between many of the realms, I wouldn’t call it apart of the forest myself. I also think it’s possible that the tunnels we can see and fly around today aren’t the exact same way they used to be back in the Ancestor’s days. Someone mentioned the flying Valley Race and how everything looks all ruined and janky even with the clouds still set up as a kind of “track.” I think it’s probably the same deal with the paths, and they’ve eroded and warped time. This explains why we can’t enter them all yet.

[thorny folio]

I think the proph caves were in the teaser!

[thorny folio]

I think they’re just between realms, possibly forest and prairie? The area seems to combine the two aesthetics and the quest giver used to be Ayin’s apprentice

[half shadow]

I don’t see their entrances appearing throughout the world as a retcon either. I’m fairly sure in at least one promo for the season it’s mentioned that the wind paths have now “opened up” for us to explore. I’d bet that with the restoration that the skykids have been doing the world itself is starting to heal - which is kind of obvious - which lead to the old paths revealing themselves again.

[half shadow]

Also this ^^^ Considering whats been hinted at with our QG taking the Flight spirits to live on the island together on their own, I think it’s plausible they were attempting to escape the rapid technological industry boom due to the invention/discovery of dark stone.

[thorny folio]

It could also have been a measure when the wastelands started to become corrupted, since it’s possible it could spread to other realms. In the teaser the gate and wind paths turned dark, maybe it was spreading that way and they had to shut them down/they shifted closed?

[thorny folio]

The apprentice could have had a disagreement with Ayin and the other elders and that’s why they left

There’s a lot of traditional prairie technology in the Paths, and an emphasis on harmony with the light creatures

[half shadow]

Ooooh those are both good points. I think that another obvious sign is the Tinkering Chimesmith’s spirit memory; they’re holding a nervous, uncertain stance and looking through one of the stone arches into the clouds in their final memory point, almost like they’re aware of something out there that’s worrying them.

I have to wonder though, since the Paths connect to every zone, there’s surely got to be one that leads to Eden right? Considering it seems to be a place of high importance in the kingdom, it would make sense.

[thorny folio]

Probably if it was the capital, but they might not have a passage to it/might have closed it when it uh. Exploded

[half shadow]

I wonder if the ending bit in the trailer was a look into the past instead of a future event. Like, could that be a snapshot of everything going wrong? though god i do hope it’s something we get to see in present game

[thorny folio]

that would be so dope tgc pls it could be, and it would be more a hopeful story since that means the skykids are actively helping/healing, rather than this being a time in the past in stasis

[hushed steeple]

Off topic-

Anyone remember this?

I miss it so much

[flat mist]

wait whats thats from what when was that in the game

[half shadow]

Is this from Beta Sky?

[nimble ingot]

Nope, this was for a while up to a certain update. Around May

[half shadow]

Oh??? What’s the context?

[hushed steeple]

It's the old intro!

Did it come with the Season of Assembly patch update?

[nimble ingot]

Somewhere around that time, yes

[hushed steeple]

Yup! The old intro
https://youtu.be/VXnhn-s7UBw

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, I think it might’ve been for the switch release!

Anyways, how has everyone’s day / night been?

Common factors in new and old intro:

1. Thunder and lightning like in Eden
2. The symbol with a dot, a circle, and 6 spikes

A few differences:

1. With the new intro, it's easier to tell who's speaking. With the old one, I just figured it was the Megabird.
2. The question of where did the stars fall from, and where did they fall to?
3. In the old intro, all the constellations are shown. In the new one, the Isle constellation is the only one. I really think the Isle elder holds a key importance.

I'm attaching a pic of the portal from Orbit after the new update. It looks…very familiar

[nimble ingot]

all good, the new season area is exciting.
Though I am a little bit disappointed that the wind tunnels do let you fly through them yourself. You just dive in and hope the wind catches you and drags your skykid through.

[hushed steeple]

I've been pretty energetic today and exams start from tomorrow
It's almost 1 AM here so I'm in the middle of my bedtime routine
Thanks for asking!

Yay everyone’s doing well.
||Meanwhile I’m done with typing class and wants lore ||

Typing can be really useful! I know someone who really benefits from it ^^

[nimble ingot]

Food for thought.
If mantas had different looks as they grow in size. Would this also apply to butterflies, birds, whales and Jellyfish?

[hushed steeple]

I mean how much bigger can a butterfly get
But yes for the others. They all have life cycles, so it's not a stretch to believe so

Maybe not butterflies, they seem to stay the same, ||jellyfish however, they seem to grow up to be kings ( quite literally||

I wonder what a baby whale looks like then?

[nimble ingot]

bottom right looks like baby fish.

[hushed steeple]

Awwww

[nimble ingot]

and butterflies in this concept art either suggest butterflies are baby mantas, or related, or just a side idea while working on the growth stages.

[hushed steeple]

||Then that means we have butterfly call ||

[nimble ingot]

what in the new season?
hmmm...
I thought it was a variant of the bird call, as in a light bird?
But the creature the light whisperer worked with looks different from the typical manta

[hushed steeple]

Doesn’t one of the concept arts say Pygmy manta or something as such?

[hushed steeple]

Wait where are the babies going?

[nimble ingot]

on an adventure! (I have no idea, lol)

[hushed steeple]

You know what, I did wonder what those flying creatures are that were sent off by the Isle Elder

You can see them near the Elders' temples

1. Prairie when you summon the mantas
2. Forest when you stop the rain
3. Valley flying race
4. From Graveyard into Battlefield
   Not sure about Vault though
   But you do see them after death in Eden!

Does battlefield summon krills

And does vault do spirit mantas possibly?

Vault has spirit mantas, yes
But I don't understand the question…?

I actually don’t know where I was going either

[nimble ingot]

did you mean that cosmic mantas are just magical creations in vault?
Something like a spectral familiar?

If cosmic mantas were real spirits, then that would be an interesting detail since they are the only ones that can do this.

[hushed steeple]

Yeah like if isle elder summoned it like the mantas in prarie or the krills in battlefield

[nimble ingot]

Just to add, I am not a fan of how the cosmic manta elder is nothing like the elder manta in sanctuary island.
They are either a different species, or that there is something else the devs did not clarify on with those supposed elder mantas.

[hushed steeple]

It looks like a caterpillar and a sea worm

I wonder what that line spirit manta in the starlight desert is there for

[nimble ingot]

The one that only appears when you did the first quest in season of the prince?
No idea, but I love it.

I wish that the manta and the krill in starry desert stays in the area and not just disappear after you did all of the quests

[hushed steeple]

The manta stayed there

[nimble ingot]

I sometimes don't see it, and assume it only appears if someone else summons it by doing the quest.
Same thing with the krill that exists in the out of bounds of the desert, so it is not even a threat. 😦

[hushed steeple]

Interrupting here, sorry, but I noticed something else about the old intro – the music playing is the same music as the Forest temple area

[thick plaza]

Isn't it those small cute mantas that go around the bells in Sanctuary Islands

[hushed steeple]

Yessss exactly that

[nimble ingot]

I have to take a look and compare them. though they are both tiny and cute 🙂

[hushed steeple]

Ok I got pictures

[thick plaza]

Didn't the one in the memory have a diamond on it?

[nimble ingot]

ok, then yes, they match.
I remember what the new season one looked like, just not the sanctuary ones as well till I got a fresh look.

[thick plaza]

I'm fairly certain the new one in season had a diamond on it, can someone get a pic?

[hushed steeple]

I will try!

[hushed steeple]

Is it this, or are you confused with the icon?

[nimble ingot]

maybe it is a baby manta call.
We got the normal manta, the cosmic manta, and now we got the pigmy manta call.

So, the game calls the babies, the light. And then the normal mantas, the elder manta, then cosmic manta and then elder cosmic manta

[hushed steeple]

||We just need elder manta call ||

I notice that the calls work too! You deep honk and the creatures communicate back! It’s so cute

[nimble ingot]

(bruh... why...)

Imagine a skykid with elder manta call

[hushed steeple]

Lmao.. actually I don’t know if I’ve ever heard an elder manta call

Wait a minute..
what kind of manta is gonna carry a boat this huge?
manta abuse

[rigid mural]

Ok I checked and no, I think you might have mistaken with the midway point where they're only fixing bells on the topmost arch of the main island, but on their last memory point they're just looking at the bells on their island while tilting their head... kinda cute.

[half shadow]

Oh dang you’re right! My bad

[rigid mural]

Elder spirit manta in Vault perhaps ?

[thick plaza]

Oh, I must've been lol, my bad

[hushed steeple]

Well, time for a 45 minute commute home

[thick plaza]

Ripppp

[hushed steeple]

Thanks everyone, again, you’re all the best

[thorny folio]

there are king jellyfish in eden, so reasonably those are huge, evolved version of the jellys we see

[rigid mural]

Anyway ummm I noticed a recurring thing in Valley... look at this then at the portal in home.

[hushed steeple]

Dark stone keeps things floating?

[flat mist]

It looks like a flatworm

[rigid mural]

Try again
Nah It's about how some of the architecture that has "twin" elements, including the portal, seem to be assymetrical following damage in very similar ways...

[hushed steeple]

Hmm, it still looks cool hehe

[hushed steeple]

Clouds

I have a creepyish secret for Halloween 👻
||ive been watching lore chat all this time for about 1 1/2 years and have been playing sky for 3 ||

[nimble ingot]

oh, so you are a vet?

[hushed steeple]

Sure am if you count me playing since gratitude hehe, hbu?

[nimble ingot]

I consider anyone who played since beta a vet. I am not sure if that is accurate.
Though are definitely an seasoned skykid

[hushed steeple]

Hmmmm

Could have the Tinkering Chimesmith created all the bells in Prairie? Cause I don’t see any others who create bells. HOWEVER I do see people like the talented builder building ships.

[nimble ingot]

Remember that waving spirit and clapping spirit were also working on bells.

[half shadow]

A “chimesmith” might be a specialized job title held by them is what I think. Bells might not be the same as chimes.

the minute cooldown i’m dying

[cobalt palm]

Early flight lore theory:
The ancestors used chimes and bells to attract certain light creatures to allow them to power their boats before the discovery of darkstone diamonds to power society.
Similar to horses in human society prior to engines.

As the need for power became more and more in the ancestors society, and power things which couldn't be done by creatures, such as lifts and bridges, they distilled the "light" power from the creatures in some (currently undisclosed) way, though there are theories in "raw materials" from the forest in the diamond forge concepts.

[hushed steeple]

I need to write a sky lore book one of these days
“The holy sky book”

[cobalt palm]

In the timeline, this feels like it comes before the likes of lightseeker and enchantment era, so we are getting different "layers" of the ancestors society.
My theoretical timeline:
Stars fell and started building a society
They started using creatures and learned that they were attracted by bells and chimes, hence the bells in prairie and forest.
They started using creatures to power, and allow them to fly in boats.
They learned to distil the light power as a power source and imbue them into power diamonds.
Logging and industry started, and slowly became worse, using up all the light.

At some point the child of light is sent down to the Isle of Dawn to overcome the trials, and taught the ancestors the way of controlling the elements, and so the elders become more powerful than other ancestors.

Lightseekers were sent out to discover new sources of light, and alchemists began to forge the light into different forms and create blessings.
Time passes and the world becomes more desolate and wasteland like, and darkness, now imbalanced to the light starts to take over.

The wasteland becomes a battleground to defend against the darkness.

More time passes and eventually as a show of power, a giant diamond is created at the heart of Eden.
The child of light ascends to The Light, but becomes trapped in the darkness.

In a similar way to a nuclear reactor overloading, the diamond held so much light it caused a massive imbalance in light and darkness, causing the storm.

Many years later the child of light, trapped mid ascention is able to form a vessel for light, but is balanced with the darkness to recall the spirits back to orbit.

That vessel is us.

As we distribute light back around the kingdoms, we are given the ability to shepard the trapped ancestors back to The Light, and so let the child of light finally ascend to the stars.

[hushed steeple]

so uh @pure umbra about the third eye thing

it could be possible, then again with no mask there is no diamond on the child’s forehead. potentially it can be simply a mark on their head with no actual significance, or it is a way for light too seep out of the child’s body without too much of it escaping, as too much light can be overwhelming and detrimental

reason why the child would need that part of their body is so they can probably see much better in dark areas, considering this kingdom is infested in it.

[pure umbra]

Wow. This is a very interesting perspective. I loved it

[hushed steeple]

thank u C:

So much knowledge

I love it

diamonds are a very prominent symbol in this game and i feel it has to do with a little bit of math and socio”economic” power (or environmental power, if you will)

can i go off on a rant abt it

[pure umbra]

Actually, that might make sense, even if the devs didn't mean it. I think that sounds pretty logical. Wow you are so creative

[hushed steeple]

alright here i go

any diamond, found on a vault of knowledge lantern or a child’s mask, if rotated 45 degrees will look like a square.

a square has 4 sides of equal length and each of its corners measures up to 90 degrees. you may be wondering how the hell this is related to power.

a square can represent equality. a diamond can represent a star. if a square is tilted to look like a diamond, wouldnt it resemble a star of equality?

simply put, diamonds are a symbol of longing for the power of light to be even and proportional across all the realms. my guess is that there was an improper balance of the light/dark harmony that constitutes a healthy kingdom in this sense, making it the desolate kingdom we see today. The star being us, we can fulfil this ancient “SOS” in the form of a diamond by bringing light back to the kingdom

ok thats all i had to say

QWQQQQW- idk actually :c

[pure umbra]

Delish!

[hushed steeple]

FINALLY, CONVENIENCE

NO MORE STUPID BOAT TRIPS TO ARK-MART

[pure umbra]

Wow thats great!!

Hımm. It'd be like the sound of the wind, something shrill but lightly

~Some cultures say that butterflies are actually fairies. We can also walk from here:)

[hushed steeple]

thank you C:

thats so convenient tho

[hushed steeple]

idk i feel this theory is too far fetched. it couldve just been a simple insignia instead of an SOS

tru

[nimble ingot]

Lol, Ark-Are-Lost!

[orchid jolt]

darkstone instead.

[hushed steeple]

Oh haha

[sharp lichen]

This will change Sky any% and ng+ speedruns forever!

[nimble ingot]

Oh! I forgot to show this. I am sure this was already shown in the lore chat. This is somewhere in Forest, I think. I think it was part of the season of Assembly. I have to look for this again to confirm.
I still find these tiny diamonds very interesting though.

[hushed steeple]

Assembly kids getting into some mischievous behavior.

[lofty totem]

I’m sure the assembly kids are trying to make a gate

[upbeat rampart]

I wonder if the new update about the home shrine is to basically tell that the home shrine stone is connected to the Elders. The qg friend was told by them to give quests (to Skykids) after their death--so that the skykid could master their powers and become ready for something big by regular practice.

(so the elders hadn't truly died yet, knows skykids exist and gives them a constant task to do something after every run on Eden, so that the Skykids make themselves better for the upcoming and more harder times).

[rigid mural]

I'm too salty about that update to justify it with lore in a constructive way.

[main finch]

i was so confused with the home shrine thing-
like i was trying to get my daily task from the usual spirt guy but i couldnt so i thought it was a glitch

[feral leaf]

They barely have a purpose now standing infront of portals

[abstract badger]

I think it’s because people were complaining about how distance affected the button

They may be trying to separate the quest mechanism from seasonal activities, since seasonal quests are a whole thing now. Because questgivers have a new kind of quest to give, they’re probably going to phase out the nonseasonal qg

[heady sequoia]

NOOOO

[slender jasper]

Idk if this was mentioned before but I just realized it the other day, but the stone things in the social space in each realm looks like grave stones. So I wonder who buried them and if that's part of the lore somehow?

[abstract badger]

I think concept art labels them as graves. Personally, I don’t think they had bodies to bury since the og lore had them return to megabird and such, but the graves could have been set up by the spirits themselves simply as a marker of their presence. Or maybe just magic, idk.

But good question...

[upbeat rampart]

I get what you mean by the home shrine--initially it kinda was scary but now it's tolerable for me (and probably even fascinating-ish, given that the eyes could be anything but specifically white, and that the eyes are then connected to the Elders, as if to mean something)

[jaunty tapir]

When i first saw the grave stones in valley, i thought "wow so many spirits here!" But then i realized they have no spirits

[hushed steeple]

But do you realize there are grave markers along the walls in the Valley races and temples
Like a posthumous hall of fame?

[worn maple]

Maybe it’s not the stone thing in home that is a grave stone, maybe it’s the stones in eden that originally had the same function as the home shrine

[hot bane]

so what your saying is

[feral leaf]

Ive been thinking but maybe it makes more sense if the wind paths were how the spirits use get around their kingdoms and not the way we now use today because of how traveling in a straight line doesn't feel very organic?

[half shadow]

Yeah that seems to be pretty much canon, considering that boats travel through the clouds

[covert fulcrum]

question
where do claps come from in the races

[jaunty tapir]

Memories? Probably haha. Since you "meditate" at the start of the race.

[hushed steeple]

Er-
Maybe…?

[feral leaf]

Memories seem interesting but it could also just be non diegetic sound

[hushed steeple]

I like this. I can get behind this.

[hushed steeple]

what do the diamonds on the sky masks represent

[icy spruce]

Idk, there’s some theories about it being power and all or its just there for deco

[hushed steeple]

Any idea what this purple string really means when u ride a manta?

[hushed steeple]

Maybe it's a tether? Like it indicates that You have now been mantanapped?

[hearty bramble]

Mantanapped ahahah-!

It does looks like a tether though, reminds me of the blue Avatar movie where you kind of connect with the creatures using the end of your hair strand?

[hushed steeple]

The credit for coining that word is not mine, sadly
You are now attached to this manta and shall be subject to its chaotic cuteness from here on out
This manta is your manta now

[hearty bramble]

Sadly, they really likes to throw us off their back into the sky

[quick terrace]

launched like a cannon

[hushed steeple]

Deep inhale
Neck cranes back

Yeeet

[swift plaza]

Anyone had difficulties getting through the main doorway of Wind Paths? I lost count how many
times the wind pushed me off from the island and to the clouds below😭
Also after we "unblocked" the wind pathways prior to the first quest, it was kinda hard to navigate
around the area. The only path available right now was the one that
connects to Sunny Forest underground tunnel right?

[feral leaf]

Yes we've only opened up the one that connects to the sunny Forest cave

Wait if it's confirmed that spirits could not fly like how we use our capes to fly does that mean that the flying race in Valley pas the Citadel was actually a boat race for the spirits if that how they got around when they were alive

[analog vapor]

TRUE

[boreal nebula]

ooh... yeah... After all I don't think our skykids hear a music, it's a music we here...

But what if it were meta and also our skykids could sense it, the cheers and the soundtracks too , like a 6th sense... ||After all, they already see dead people ||

[hushed steeple]

Manta pets

[feral leaf]

Like I like the memory idea but thinking about the possibility they put it in for the atmosphere from a different pov

[boreal nebula]

for a second I almost was ready to tell you "There is no Avatar movie" but I realize you mean the blue alien smurffs one

[rigid mural]

spirit rides a manta in their memories. Make of that what you will...

[boreal nebula]

It's a bummer indeed, but I like to take a look at the bright side:
"oh no I'm in Sanctuary and I want to reach the candle cake at the top.... let's use the manta's yeet as advantage"

[boreal nebula]

It could be as Vela said, and maybe only the thrillseekers dared to do that 🏄‍♂️

but it could be a boat race, after all in the Prophecy final mural there are two boats close to each other that seems to be the Twins fighting with thei sticks/oars

[feral leaf]

True the kinda look like they are standing in boats

[boreal nebula]

zoom the full picture

What it gets me more curious is that the Flight boats are exactly like the gondolas in the skilift from Village of Dreams

Since theirs are driven by mantas and the one in the ski lift are not.. it came natural to me to think about the Thresdrals in Harry Potter.. are those gondola dragged around by invisible mantas we cannot see ?

[sharp latch]

I think the gondolas are diamond-powered?

[boreal nebula]

I know, but the random idea popped in my mind

There are invisible skeleton mantas dragging gondolas 🎃

[feral leaf]

Pfft

[boreal nebula]

Anyway, this new season proves another old idea I had back, then with Dreams..
the ski lift line only seems to end where we get stopped on that landing platform, but there is another giant powerline pillar ahead

meaning the last stop wasn't the Yeti's hut, but something beyond in that direction
||Now its' confirmed there is a windpath behind that hut||

Also, maybe that tilted pillar is not broken as I thought, maybe they slowly build the skilift to create an automatic transport line to Flight Season map (perhaps after they met the Yeti, who was an hermit cut off from the society, dodging skypep)

[nimble ingot]

oh!
I like that idea. That is very good observation, @boreal nebula.

[boreal nebula]

Or maybe Yeti was against destroying his hut

Now it's confirmed, the Yeti is Shrek "Get off my swamp Peek"

[neat flint]

[feral leaf]

Just thinking about the fact that spirits could not fly and seemed to use boats and/or light creatures to navigate is interesting and there alot to think through and add this knowledge to other things we've already known or theorized

[sharp lichen]

Then did they just use capes for fashion purposes? I’m not complaining, capes are amazing

[feral leaf]

I suppose so it possibly be something like traditional clothing for or fashion ye

[sharp lichen]

Normalize capes: they look amazing on everybody!

[boreal nebula]

I still kind of hope to finally see if some of them could use it to glide at least

Since they're not holding light energy as our skykid I doubt they could do a "long" distance flight as from the 4 islands to the central island in Flight Map

Plus, it's called "Flight" , it should be mandatory they show us something

[hushed steeple]

All I can say is

Edna Mode would be disappointed.

[rigid mural]

QG seems to be happy seeing skykids with flight powers; perhaps they can't cross that distance without boats.

[boreal nebula]

Itdoes look very happy, she move around too

[hushed steeple]

Ghost ping

[orchid jolt]

I actually have a theory where the peices of light we collect during the races are actually spirits, possibly ones who are to weak to create memories on their own for the sky kids to relive.

ACTUALLY, to add to that. the lights are collected in a flame, we bring the flames to the elders and then the elders send the flame to the skies, perhaps the flames they send are the spirits we brought to them so that they may help the spirits ascend. Some elders encase the flames to protect them, or maybe so that the spirits can activate a mechanism as they are ascending (since its darkstone with flame it should activate some mechanisms) ie vault and forest.

oh, but the isle elder uses the flame we bring for their mask and powers, they dont launch the flame up, hmmm mybe disregard that last message i sent

[flat mist]

Hm maybe the wax in orbit is from the spirits because we left before they could give skykids their change from purchases

Also the wind paths area is in a perfect spot to reach the seasonal areas. i drew on @rigid mural ‘s map for this

[rigid mural]

Honestly considering to redo that map tbh, it's just a handful because I'm the kind to put a lot of details if I don't force myself not to
Might also do some adjustments like placing the isle a bit farther away from prairie since the distance is a bit larger than I thought.
Might make Eden smaller too.
I also have an idea to rearrange vault, starlight desert and the end of wastes to make the view we get from the starlight desert make sense.

[distant turtle]

It's already quite wonderful even if there are scale adjustments you would like to make

[flat mist]

yeah isle is a bit farther away from prairie and ark is farther away from main GW bc theres the boat ride and stuff

and valley and forest end are a bit farther apart than that. and ice rink is farther from the entrance to valley and you didnt account for hermit valley in village of dreams

[tacit briar]

I have a theory the summonable corgi is evil and that it was the one who corrupted the crystal in eden

[rigid mural]

I won't support this Oreo slander

[tacit briar]

Its evil 💥💥

[hushed steeple]

Apparently there's a bot command that krills Oreo
Not that Oreo actually gets krilled, mind you
Oreo is probably the purest bean in all of Sky
Sky would fall without him

[orchid jolt]

well the thing is, oreo's goodness power overloaded the diamond, so technically oreo caused it but it wasnt on purpose or anything
/s

[coral delta]

[orchid jolt]

[coral delta]

the way it should be

[hushed steeple]

Nooooo

[orchid jolt]

try in memes, skybot will have some words for you

[hushed steeple]

Haha yeah, I've seen it happen

Anyone know the lore of ||the spirit that meets us after eden? ||THE ONE WHO ALWAYS CHILLIN AND BE ASKIN FOR HUGGO’S?

[onyx sphinx]

why do yall think the flying race looks like ||orbit||

[hushed steeple]

I call him Funky Franky

[orchid jolt]

many peeps think its the sky prince (NOT petit prince). I think it's ourselves, would you like me to link to the posts explaining why?

[hushed steeple]

What do you mean? Like destroyed?

[onyx sphinx]

who's the sky prince

[hushed steeple]

Please do!!!

[onyx sphinx]

mhm i think? mostly the big floating rocks and toppled building and lots of light creatures

[orchid jolt]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[hushed steeple]

Hmm I think it’s a symbolism for something. Uh some of the bigger lore chat people might know.. sorry

[mellow nacelle]

ahem sky kids are sun that a godly figure magically turned them to moths 😎

[onyx sphinx]

HAH its alright :)

[hushed steeple]

Something about the twins equality or something 😅

[orchid jolt]

i think i linked some other theories i had by mistake lol

[hushed steeple]

Ah right here!
(Sorry for ping)

we just change souls real quick 😗 💅

[worn obsidian]

One of the creator on YouTube made a video explaining the entire full story of Sky, detailed with timeline and such. It's in Vietnamese so if you want to understand what they say, turn on Subtitle (Closed Caption).

Link to the video: https://youtu.be/y3y9MfP-mDw

[orchid jolt]

Alright, here is just the links to the glowey boy theory:
#lore-discussion-spoilers message (This directs you to some links that then direct you again to previous messages I sent about this theory)

#lore-discussion-spoilers message (and this one just directs you to a peice of evidence)

[hushed steeple]

THANK YOUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!

[orchid jolt]

haha, no problem. sorry for the previous one containing my crackpot theory instead of just the glowey boy one lol

[hushed steeple]

also, i know the deer mask isnt really the mask of a deer. its in the same family as deer, but i cant seem to remember what it actually is. You know?

not an elk.. not a deer.. nobody? ill keep lookin. I used to know this.

[orchid jolt]

why does it have to be a specific one?

[hushed steeple]

mostly just looking for IRL pictures for artistic reasons.

[orchid jolt]

ones that match the horns? Do you remember there ever being one (dont have to remember what it was, just that there was one)

[hushed steeple]

yeah i remember being corrected during gratitude when i called it a deer mask, by another player. I googled the type they said, and it looked very very similar to that mask.

I come bearing a teaser from a fic I'm writing:
"It may be understandable why the Elders of this realm were in their youth: at an age where competitiveness and energy are also at their peak.
It easily escapes notice, then, that once a civilization reaches its peak, there’s nowhere to go but down…"

[orchid jolt]

Ooh a fic, i made a server for that stuff (like fan seasons, stories, other stuff). Dm me if you want the link! (that also goes to everyone else dm me if you want the link to the discord even if you arent this person that I'm replying to)

[hushed steeple]

...reindeer? Black buck?

[orchid jolt]

i looked up close relatives to deer and found this image, does this look like the images you remember?

[half shadow]

HI THAT LINE GOES HARD AS HELL GOOD WORK

[orchid jolt]

like @hushed steeple suggested, I looked up a reindeerand this is one of the images i got (I was pleasently surprised that i didnt get any christmas stuff)

[hushed steeple]

THANK YOU I'M VERY PROUD OF IT

[sharp latch]

I’m not sure if they’re related but is if antelope or gazelle

[orchid jolt]

do you want me to dm you the invite? (asking since you reacted with and i have no idea what you mean by that lol)

[hushed steeple]

Oh! Umm...
Super proud of you for running a server. That's why
But umm...I'm actually having a lot of trouble keeping up with Discord while preventing it from interfering with my mental health and real-life performance. So I'll have to decline. I'm really sorry!

[orchid jolt]

dont be sorry. take care of yourself. It's fine not to join, and real life is more important. Dont worry about it lol.

[orchid jolt]

was it this? (its called a Chital)

[upbeat rampart]

Ok so it's kinda lateish and getting up an old theory for discussion to see if there's any new opinion of it, why do we have to pray for summoning levitating spirit in Vault? Why do they have two graves?

(Writing a fanfic and torn whether to make them a good person or no)

Only spirit where you use another emote to get up a spirit I think

[hushed steeple]

To be honest, you see that trend with a lot of the Vault spirits, don't you? You need to know how to levitate diamonds to reach the praying spirit, you need to have the Valley manta call to get the spirit manta call...
Could it tie into the fact that Vault is dreamlike/projection of a memory? So you need old memories to unlock new ones?
I don't know how to word it exactly, but...it's kinda related to going deeper and deeper into your own mind and that means finding memories that are already there to unlock deeper parts of your mind

[upbeat rampart]

Makes sense that way!

However, these are real world previous vault spirits I'd say, and none of the spirits have that trait. It's kind of odd that levitating spirit requires it

[hushed steeple]

I think Vault is taxing on the mind the same way Wasteland is taxing on the body (what with the getting krilled and stuff)
It's a bit of a mind-bending experience.
First, you need to learn to pray (ground level spirit). Prayer is an act of getting in touch with your thoughts and emotions, and channeling them a certain way.
Then you need to learn to levitate inanimate objects. When the target of levitation is inanimate and separate from your own being, that's the first step to levicorpus (I couldn't resist! )
And then finally when you have those two acts mastered, you're ready to learn how to levitate yourself. So your pray and you summon the spirit, and go "Look! I have strength of mind now!"

[flat mist]

you need butterfly spirit to get the spirit in the 8 player puzzle

[rigid mural]

I got sick of it, here’s my attempt at the map redo. I should probably stick to blobs featuring one or two notable scenery features...

[hushed steeple]

It looks good! Keep going!

[half shadow]

Yoooo Vela that’s DOPE!!!

[half shadow]

Here’s a thought. I feel like the spirits in the Vault, like, the main ones in the base game, are themselves apprentices of the Vault Elder.

[hushed steeple]

Every mural in the Vault cutscene shows a few spirits along with the elders
Maybe they're the apprentices?

[regal phoenix]

are the candles in the first quest you give to spirits a new type of candle we've never seen?

[half shadow]

I have a sense that the Vault was much like a school of learning, with the Elder being at the top.

[hushed steeple]

Library of Alexandria vibes?

[regal phoenix]

sky college au skid's go through crisis

[ocean quail]

honestly yea i've always thought that child was us, a sort of metaphor for accepting what has come to pass ||(we've died), and that acceptance is what lets us return to the stars in orbit||

[sharp latch]

I hc it’s a different skid who’s come to save us like we saved so many other skids. Gameplay messes it up a bit but that’s my theory

[rigid mural]

I don't really want to, this is exhausting. Point of that map is to be simple and annotated; too many details would make it pretty but unusable...

[sly lake]

You may be thinking of Gazelle.

[boreal nebula]

I think it's add-up, even with the Isle Elder, after all it's like you said, pieces of memories that are not strong enough to get a "solid" shape

And all this warm feeling, even if just sparks, together can get strong enough to become a valuable energy. And all the emotions they bare could have the power to heal someone

About the flame enclosed in the diamonds, I long thought about them being a vessel for a soul somehow, after all both Lamed and Teth Vault and Forest Elders seems sad when you couldn't push a diamond to ascend... And all the tombstones in the realms are sortof shaped like a kneeled person (more visible by looking at the Elders ones) with a hole in the chest.
To me a symbol of the body is a earthly bound, but the heart is the core of the soul

Instead of a power driven Sky Kingdom juicing/grinding mantas in factories, as many see it
I think more likely the Sky Kingdom was driven by the aim of being able to ascend as many souls as possible, nurturing nature and mantas (as the new season seems to imply too)

[boreal nebula]

I like this stye

Also, I'm curious, what's the thing between Eden and GW Temple?

[rigid mural]

Starlight desert on the left, and the lil bit at the bottom of Eden is the top of Vault

[boreal nebula]

Idk if someone pointed out already, but there are the 3 skykids in formation we see in Orbit Stars on the new rock pad in HomeSpace

Pictures for reference

[boreal nebula]

I wasn't sure because I was expecting to see the Lighthouse to be bigger, thanks by the way

[rigid mural]

My art is chicken scratch

[feral leaf]

Oh yeah I've never noticed that before

[hushed steeple]

Isn’t it a thanks or something to people who played in the original beta?

[boreal nebula]

Idk, maybe

Btw, here's a closer look at the constellation in Orbit with TLP

[wraith lynx]

Hello everyone
Did anyone notice there's something about the introduction of the flight season guide

Former apprentice of Daylight Prairie Elder

In the prairie cutscenes (I think), you can see prairie elder kept that little butterfly in the jar instead of giving it freedom

While flight guide and the other flight spirit give the light creatures freedom by creating a big map for them

Both of their opinions on the light creatures are different, that's why flight guide is not prairie elder 's apprentice anymore

[floral plank]

Greetings everyone. I am quite new in the Sky Lore community. I would like to know who is King Resh? What was his role in the Sky Kingdom? What did he do and how did he become corrupted?

[main finch]

king resh is the eden elder,, tho i dont remember seeing him at all but maybe i missed him in some cutscenes,, if i recall i believe he was the one who became so power hungry over smth and caused corruption in eden? idk correct me if im wrong but that's what i remember

[hushed steeple]

Not the biggest lore person but look at this chain that ship had to be... MASSIVE like 10 or more times bigger than ark!! :o

[patent marlin]

The chain is bigger than the sky kid XD

[harsh pecan]

Resh is the monarch of the Sky kingdom, we’re not really sure if he’s the Eden Elder. There’s also another character, the Prince, who might be the King, it usually depends on your theories. Statues of the King can be seen in Wasteland and he is referenced multiple times. We don’t really know what his personality is but given the references I’d say he was very influential or well liked. He’s also responsible for the production of power diamonds (aka the things you light in forest and valley to open doors etc). Since Sky lore is vague we’re not too sure of anything at the moment. Many people say that power diamonds and some other factors caused the fall of the kingdom, it’s commonly believed that the King is currently in the Eden diamond.

The first pic is what he looks like btw

[patent marlin]

Honestly this is a bit off topic but i wonder how tall was he? 🤔

[harsh pecan]

very tall

[patent marlin]

Daaaaamn
I bet if he was on the wasteland social area he would go through the clouds and end up in an oob area

[icy spruce]

He was prolly short, just tall cause turrets

[harsh pecan]

Wait so did he just become bigger when he got corrupted or…

[neat flint]

Like you said we don't really know

[patent marlin]

I dunno,we have only small bits of lore so anything is possible i guess..

[patent marlin]

I have to admit,that drawing is EPIC

[harsh pecan]

If we know how tall the skid is, I think we can calculate how tall he is this photo

[patent marlin]

He could pick us up

[icy spruce]

eat the skid.

[slender jasper]

He taller than blow kiss emote spirit

[harsh pecan]

Yes

[floral plank]

Oh thank you

And who is the Prince? Was he the first Sky kid as some theories suggest?

[harsh pecan]

Some theories say so, he might be the kid in Ushering Stargazer’s memories or the figure in the Prophecy murals

Also we don’t know if he is the younger version of the King, a part of the King or an different individual

Also also he might be the kid he hug after we die in Eden

[patent marlin]

I'm pretty sure the one in the Prophecy murals it's him tho,i mean the season even has the symbol of his mask
About the kid who we hug after we die i never thought about that but sounds good too!

[harsh pecan]

Yes, I personally I think he’s the one in the murals, but some other people might say it’s someone else so yea

[patent marlin]

I see
Honestly it would be interesting to have a season in Eden,like the place shouldn't be a problem,maybe the entrance a crack in the mountain with the flying rocks (first area) should be good enough
And there wouldn't even need to be anything too detailed to the king, actually Eden is the only realm without any spirits so it would be interesting to find some there as well!

So i think we can have a little more lore

[harsh pecan]

I agree

[patent marlin]

Oh yes something i've noticed that is maybe just a coincidence..
The anubis mask from season of prophecy was an.. interesting choice
We know that the realms were based by the day periods and stages of life (Isle- birth,praire-childhood,etc)
And Eden was death
Also the season of Prophecy at least for me is based around the prince wich later became the Eden king
Anubis was an egyptian god wich judged souls to go to "heaven" or "hell" (it wasn't like that exactly but you get my point) so anubis is also related to death somehow

Maybe it's just a coincidence tho
But it's what i noticed
(This is just my thoughts)

[icy spruce]

Yeaeeee, that’s what I also think

OH WHAT IF IT ALSO SYMBOLISES THAT LIKE ONCE THE PRINCE BECAME KING IT BECOMES THE ‘DEATH’ OF THEIR INNOCENCE SO THEY BECAME MORE CORRUPTED MORE WHEN THEY’RE KING OR S,THN

[hushed steeple]

I think that the ones in the season of flight are people who rebelled against that way of life as they came to this land in search for a better life ( if that makes sense hehe )

[livid valley]

the j

[hushed steeple]

The j?

[main finch]

hey uh this is random,, but i remember being a doc about lore in here? i used to have somewhere but i cant find it,, does anyone still have it by any chance?

[hushed steeple]

Manta murals in birds nest

Just a thought..
what if the theory on the flight group being rebellious against the dark stone technology was a big thing? Idk how to describe it
I see all these windvanes of the flight symbol on them and wonder if the flight group were trying to make the whole kingdom see what they see.

I don’t make any sense at all so I?

[compact pine]

i think its just us, like our new life. Cuz their height changes depending on your height so if youre chibi theyre chibi too.

[jaunty tapir]

(Sorry for ping) odd it used to be in pins here's the lore moff doc though! It has helpful links inside it too https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

[main finch]

aaa tysm!!

[orchid jolt]

Over 100 years ago, a natural predator of the spirits appeared: the Elders, giant humanoid but mindless monsters whose sole purpose of existence seemed to be to devour spirits. There was an insurmountable gap in power between them and the spirits, and as a result, the spirits were rapidly exterminated to the brink of extinction. The survivors responded by constructing three concentric barriers: The Eye of Eden, The Vault, and Golden Wasteland, which graced them with a century of peace. However, one day King Resh, far larger than any other Elder seen before, breached the outer barrier, allowing the smaller Elders to invade the spirits territory and forcing the survivors to retreat to the inner walls. The Sky Kids, children whose mother watches from the heavens, vowed to wipe every last Elder off the face of the World of Sky, and joined the military determined to exact their revenge.

[icy spruce]

Attack of the Elders

[orchid jolt]

well, we also did see one of them repairing a boat that looked to be powered by power diamonds

[harsh pecan]

Lmao nice one

[ornate moon]

Hey umm so I am new here but I always wondered what happened with krills and wasteland. Can someone share the lore about krill and wasteland to me please? I need reference for my drawing 🥺

[orchid jolt]

well, sadly, the devs confirmed that krill are in fact corrupted... (still salty about that)
but they also said that what they were before corruption remains to be seen...

[ornate moon]

So originally they're not creatures that like to attack skids right?

[orchid jolt]

thx lol

[orchid jolt]

but they also said that what they were before corruption remains to be seen...
Its technically possible they were even more aggresive as whether or not they would've attacked us wasnt said. Its likely they would be less agressive tho

[crimson forge]

i made up a whole group of sky kids that were born for the first time there 👀 they can speak to krill and stuff

[tight pecan]

So it's been shown that spirits still have lives even though they're dead right?
But perhaps that's just temporary / memories / timespace thing
But if they do have lives,
How could they be dead?

[harsh pecan]

When we relive spirits we just go through one of their memories

[tight pecan]

I'm talking more on the stuff we seen in the Flight quest
Or Assembly quests (during and post completion)
Like after we complete some assembly quests we see an Assembly spirit do stuff in the treehouse

[half shadow]

My personal theory is that it depends broadly with each spirit. The designated quest givers being more interactive with the player is, I think, largely a gameplay thing to consider.

[worn maple]

I think the spirits with capes could fly but those without capes couldn’t. The proud victor spirit, the one with the red cape, and the thrill seeker spirit, the one with the pink cape, both have capes and I think they used them to compete in the flying race

[hushed steeple]

A spirit in valley rides a manta. Yipee! But yeah even the ones with capes drive about in boats. Yesterdays (dead civilization) fashion is todays (new generation of hybrid star children) useful pair of usable wings.

[worn maple]

But we can fly and yet we use a boat to get to the forgotten arc

[hearty bramble]

Yeah, back then I thought spirits with capes can fly, but since season of flight came I doubt it

Well, we use it to get across a sea of corrosive water, so I guess that make sense

[rigid mural]

It's that or we run out of flaps and drown in dark water tbh

Theory on symbol
It's often seen on windvanes, correct ? And that pattern is seen on the early temples (isle and prairie).
What if it was a symbol of the path to Eden as a rebirth point ?
Light Awaits said that elders were in charge of light and spirits going from all corners of the kingdom to Eden.
In a way, is the way to the ultimate, the endpoint, the place where this life ends and a new one begins.

No wonder it faced competition fron the king's ..

[orchid jolt]

i made a fanfic-type server since this official discord doesnt have a fanfic/fanseason channel. DM me if you would like the link to it (same with everyone else, dm me for the link)

[orchid jolt]

there are two versions of it actually. We can see both in the new area. one is used for wind vanes and has that hole filled in along with some other stuff and one is well this:

[drowsy glade]

Wild idea you not collecting other spirits memories your collecting your own it makes sense at Eden that’s the last of your memory so when you complete it the game just resets and you become another spirit

[orchid jolt]

actually... that's an interesting take on it... so what your saying is that the reason we are reborn is actually because we are just reliving our own memory?

[drowsy glade]

Yes and the winged light is the parts soul of the character

[orchid jolt]

you mean the fragments of our "spirit" memory?

[drowsy glade]

Yes and that would also explain why when you get to eden they turn into candles for customization so the character can use that to rebuild them selfs

And why the monster soul eaters take the fragments

[orchid jolt]

well, i dont really know about that part, but if we think about the glowey boy at the end being ourselves, that would be like when a spirit shows us something after we burn their statue.

like, "please, listen to us, you're trapped in purgatory! We can help you escape!" only itdoesnt work, as we are trapped in a black box with a normal wl, lol

[drowsy glade]

I think it’s that the character is reborn as a candle angel and they can free the souls of everyone while also trying to free there own soul

[orchid jolt]

i meean, they just knock em out of us. they themselves dont take em. but still, good point, especially considering that crabs can knock a spirit memory fragment causing the quest to start over (happened to me with the pleaful parent carry quest, i was so far away but could still see inside the skull as the crabs hit the fragment. but I also dont blame the crabs, im pretty sure the pleaful parent was the one to put those 3 clean, likely dead crabs on top of the fire. in their memory cutscene they even chase one that looks clean) (clean as in not covered in dust, its a sign that they are friendly. office crabs and 2 crabs on a small island in sanctuary are friendly and dustfree)

[nocturne rampart]

in the valley of triumph pond, theres some candles that are burning underwater. can all candles in the game do that? is it because of their extreme temperature or something else that means that they can burn in water?

[icy spruce]

Sky logic is weird

[harsh pecan]

Ikr

[stone cargo]

good evening lore chat 😎

[harsh pecan]

Good evening!

[icy spruce]

How’s lunch

[icy spruce]

I just wanted to know how’s lunch :(

[hushed steeple]

Dang sorry
It's noon and there's supposed to be an exam rn

[icy spruce]

Oh sorry, and same got a test after lunch

[harsh pecan]

Lunch is good

[hushed steeple]

Imma have lunch now
Then another exam

[fading bear]

ajfhfd yesterday I saw the particles on the crabs are the same as on the sitting body things that appear when you relive a spirit's memory (the ones you "clean" when you finished the memory)

[lean kayak]

We dont swim in there either like in other bodies of water

[patent marlin]

That's a good one! :0

[primal verge]

Came to drop a topic for conversation

symbol can be seen in sanctuary a lot

But with the new season they are in many more places. HOWEVER they are not quite similar.

Why?

[feral leaf]

Perhaps the reason why it is seen in sanctuary alot is because light creatures perhaps migrate to the island so maybe the sanctuary spirits are the one that watch over those creature for the flight spirits once they migrate to the islands

The singular posts with that symbol that you see at cave of prophecies, sunny Forest cave and Hermit Valley seem to be there to indicate where a wind path will open up

Someone willing to discuss this with me or am I just going to keep coming back to my own thoughts

[quick terrace]

Oo I really like this, especially how we also see the weather vanes in bird nest, though it’s near sanctuary, very light creature-y places indeed

[feral leaf]

:D I also just remembered we have the bell tower in sanctuary that seemee to call on different flocks of migrating light creatures throughout the quests and..... It is canon that the chimesmiths works with creature migration by placing around different wind chimes that create different sounds that different light creature react to

[quick terrace]

yaya! the ones in village too

[jaunty tapir]

Oh how are they different? I didn't notice :oo

[feral leaf]

Ignis is right they are different hold I've got images for refrence :D

In order we have Birds nest weather vane, Sanctuary bell tower weather vane, Flight guides pendant and Sunny Forest (cave ) wind path marker

[hushed steeple]

So I was tired last night and didn’t know what I was typing.. what I really meant is
|| king vs flight propaganda?|| idk I’m tired this morning too 😂

[calm ingot]

am i allowed to talk about eden?

[feral leaf]

Yes I'm pretty sure you are here if it's lore related although don't quote me on that

[hushed steeple]

This area is marked as spoilers so you can post stuff like that here. ( just not beta )

[jaunty tapir]

Thank you for the pictures yeah you're right it's somewhat different :o

Huh, what if they symbol is universal but the builders are different?

Or, they were made at different years/eras. Kind of like how logos change irl over the years!

[feral leaf]

Perhaps but it interesting that they possibly are still connected because of the similarities and links

[trim belfry]

Season of flight... This season by itself is a big theory...
I'll tak a bit about this season
First... The spirits cosmetics and the caves they used for a lot of things tell us that this story (season) time is so old... Maybe it's the oldest seasons in sky (?)
Also the relationship between the light creatures and the spirits seem so close... And light whisperer spirit hairstyle, maybe she is the one who created this hairstyle and learnt it the childrens and she was like a teacher or something like that for them...
There are a lot of bells... And a few buildings... Kinda old story when they were living freely and in more peace...

I forgot something...
This area connects between all realms... And has doors for them too... Which mean it was one of the most important areas for a long time... Maybe... The first area which the other realms branch out of it

[dreamy vine]

I don't know if this counts as a lore based question but what are these stones meant for?

[icy spruce]

You meditate on it and you get a heart, basicalky it idk

[dreamy vine]

WAIT WHAT

[rigid mural]

On phone it asks you to rate Sky afaik

[dreamy vine]

It's not working so I'm confused

[trim belfry]

That means You already did it before bro

[harsh pecan]

Yea

[dreamy vine]

But I never interacted with these things before?

[harsh pecan]

That’s strange

[trim belfry]

R u sure? You maybe were a moth and don't remember... Did you rate the game before?

[hushed steeple]

You’re only able to do that once

[dreamy vine]

Ohhhhhh wait I remember rating the game 5 stars on the play store after I started playing without using the stone

[trim belfry]

Hmmm

[hushed steeple]

Might wanna move this to #questions-and-help

[trim belfry]

Lore why r u dead

[icy spruce]

Wdym, it’s a normal Thursday?

[hushed steeple]

Apparently Lore chat does this thing where it's only active when I'm supposed to be sleeping /j

Skybot, what--

[pastel brook]

Fineeee, gather around the bonfire, I'm going to play a lullaby for you!

[upbeat rampart]

Well...somewhat yes?

I imagine them to peacefully rebel and try to show others that way and Prairie Elder banishing them (perhaps) and that's why they're in Forest intro--they're not in "Forest" or "Prairie". They don't belong anywhere, and they're hardly recognised.

Probably the apprentice of Prairie Elder was secretly in favor and visited them (and Prairie Elder didn't mind, they kind of just. Tried to limit it, but didn't outright ban because I imagine them to be somewhat kind and individualistic). It was as long as they continued to work on powered tech it was okay

Also speaking of powered tech, in forest gate intro cutscene (where you open the door to the Elder shrine), it seemed that powerstones were made of 1/2 mined from ground (the boat had carried it, the blue part of it) and the yellow one is the light that we give/light creatures give and that's how darkstones kinda worked? (Never thought of that much up until I ran forest today)

[civic atlas]

Hello lore chat...... I was wondering, is the forgotten ark is facing the wind path or back onto, cause that'll be another big story about the ark.... Like the ark got wreck before it reach the path or the ark got wreck after it went through the path

[upbeat rampart]

Well it didn't release live yet so we're unsure as of now (we = live). So maybe later quests could reveal that [or well, we can probably see the end result path]
(Or I don't know if they told in live--sorry if yes)

I just assume it does connect with Ark tho. Have to see if there's any holes in somewhere, I'll update you later after running there

(did they reveal where the tunnels would be officially?)

Ok there

[civic atlas]

There's a big gapping hole in the cloud near the ark

Edit: thank you

[upbeat rampart]

I'd assume the path is something like this

Looks like it's behind the landing imo, judging by the path we enter

(Actually raises a question, what is a ship doing in the middle of nowhere? Where's the water? Surely it didn't get sucked off completely? And if there was water, then what is the cloud doing there?)

[civic atlas]

That means it crashes after it went through the path

Maybe due to the strong wind the ark lost control and take the wrong path, dunno

[hushed steeple]

But on the murals it shows a krill so maybe the krill knocked it down?

[civic atlas]

Maybe after they went through the path the krilled attack them?

[hushed steeple]

Maybe it was the krills home and it got mad

[hushed steeple]

Maybe it was trying to travel to eden. Or to a place before?

[civic atlas]

Wasteland was a warzone, maybe they were carrying supplies to support the war

[upbeat rampart]

What would they find in Eden? Maybe to do basically forgotten ark but bring resources there so that they could do it efficiently?

[hushed steeple]

Maybe they were bringing dark stone to Eden?

Some of the old concept art shows this, as it shows that this is what caused the storm.

[hushed steeple]

Strong winds?
We have to get a certain light just for the wind to return tho.
Maybe too little wind

[civic atlas]

Possible

[upbeat rampart]

Possible, but ark doesn't seem to have strong winds past it--or even a proper landing. Could it be that terrible?

[sharp latch]

I think that they were trying to un-pollute wasteland

[civic atlas]

But they clear only where the ark is,.... Maybe since wasteland was too barren, could also be possible that they went to brought supply and to cleanse it

[boreal nebula]

I like to think that is just a too narrow path, and maybe some other stream was they're route, after all, even the whales/manta arrive without us knowing it clearly

[boreal nebula]

I don't think they cleared it after all

The Ark crew crashlanded and probably lost all their elemental lights (we are the one that finally bring them back to fulfill their wishes), and lived barrelly with the little water they tried to use on the crop field

Also notice the Alchemist wasn't able to clear the water in the far cave, meaning they only had little elemental power left

[boreal nebula]

Are you sure you didn't used the other rating stone in Eden Orbit, it's on a Bright of star on the right, after the rock pads

[icy spruce]

O, what’s the topic

[boreal nebula]

It could be that the season is somewhat old, but the sole fact that they are good craftmen and that they have same boats as in Dreams gondolas or reparing a big boat of transportation, I think it might even be just their choice to live with more connection to nature

After all they even seems to have a complecx system of navigation signals to regulate the traffic. That seems unlikely in a "primitive"

Plus there are more than one examples of season spirits leaving together in the same time

[boreal nebula]

There isn't I just trace back some theory😅

[icy spruce]

Ohh okay

[boreal nebula]

There is painted pillar with yellow tint near the 1 Quest Spot, I think I might have a picture

Here it is, and near there are squared vase with the yellow paint.. there are in more spot around Flight

Bonus: I kind of like this prop/instrument(?) too shaped exactly like the emblem/ weather vane

[hushed steeple]

Lore chat’s birthday is coming up soon

It’s 2nd birthday I think.

In 3 days

What is mr butterfly doing?

They're playing like a little child

[rigid mural]

An adult the little prince would be proud of.

[half shadow]

I miss the little prince

[hushed steeple]

Same ||rip||

[hazy rover]

I'm curious what other people think the age range of skykids is. like has it ever been confirmed that they're all actual young children? 'cause they're clearly tiny - if the assembly kids, who are clearly supposed to represent kids by the kinds of clothes they wear and such - are still so much physically larger, who's to say tall sky kids aren't actually teens/young adults and skykids are just a small species?

[hushed steeple]

Well - actually are we allowed to talk about the secret areas here?

[half shadow]

I believe it’s been confirmed that Skykids, along with every being in Sky, is genderless and ageless. “Ageless” in the sense that they don’t have strict numerical ages besides the vague descriptors of Old and Young. The Ancestors are clearly Older than the skykids. Skykids are kids, so they’re Young. Some of the Ancestor spirits look to be youthful as well, like the Boogie Kid for example, but young Ancestors are not the same as skykids. Skykids are an entirely different creation, seemingly made to resemble the Ancestor race.

[hazy rover]

well, it does say lore spoilers.... i guess you can just spoil tag your text, probably. people have already been warned!

[half shadow]

You’re allowed to talk about secrets and spoilers yeah, just no beta content. Anything in Beta and not in the game yet isn’t allowed here. But out of bounds secrets, concept art, and that sort of thing are fine!

[half shadow]

To clarify my point a little more: Yeah, theyve been confirmed to be kids multiple times by the devs in here. A number of times when people have made slightly innapropriate remarks, they’re quick to swoop in and remind people that skykids are, in fact, kids. I can try to find an example of that but it might take me a while.

[hushed steeple]

So I'm thinking about the office, which is apparently a replica of the actual office in California. How those structures seem very large especially in comparison to our Skykids. It's a good size comparison template, and the Office is actually huge. So that implies that we're really tiny. The tallest of us might only be, like, desk height, I think.
Then there's a spirit in Office that's a hooman, and how tall are they!? And the game spirits are that tall too.

So Skykids are babies and they are dwarves, is my headcanon. And given the gameplay...honestly I want to say that they are like 10-ish years old (in human years given mentality and such), but the horrors of Eden prevent me from doing that.

[half shadow]

I’ll say that the Office isn’t reaaaally a canonical place in the Sky lore, I don’t think. So it’s kind of difficult to theorize things based off of it. It’s more like a giant easter egg that sometimes has little fun hints in it but doesn’t actually have anything to do with the lore I’m fairly sure. Sky kids are def very little though compared to the Ancestors. They seem to be modeled directly after Ancestor children; if you look at the Switch release trailer, you can see two Ancestors and one is very obviously a child that looks almost exactly like a skykid does.

[hushed steeple]

Not in terms of lore, just kind of like a size chart. A way of thinking, "Well, okay, we want to gauge Sky kingdom sizes but we have nothing to compare them against. We have no information about a 'standard' value that we can measure it against, except - we have to replicate a human-scale structure into the game. What scaling factor do we use?"

And then you can work backwards from there.

Obviously to replicate real-world dimensions into a game, you have to think about a scaling factor. So that's how I'm thinking about it.

[hazy rover]

now see that's a good point about trailers, I haven't watched any of them. Time to go do that methinks.

[half shadow]

True! The world of Sky is very different to the human world which is neat. Littol skids

[half shadow]

Check out the Switch one! I think it’s the best example of how the skykids are meant to be children. The little ancestor kiddo in the trailer looks just like one.

[hushed steeple]

I had a vision (and if anyone wants to draw this out, feel free) about Skykids in the actual Office

One Skykid peeks out from behind a cubicle
They're playing hide-and-seek with another Skykid who's at the other end of the aisle looking for them
One Skykid is sitting piggyback onto a game dev's shoulders, watching their screen along with them

It's not a complete vision yet, and I'm not skilled enough to draw it out as much as I want to. So...yeah

[half shadow]

Oh that’s adorable

[main finch]

okay this is weird but i just realised smth about season of assembly

[hushed steeple]

First off, "The boom boom from Eden" sorry that's immature of me
Second - ...kinda makes sense? I think Season of Assembly is just Skykids being Skykids. They make hangouts. They have fun with friends. So...I'm not totally sold on this.
Third - regarding that scene I envisioned - would anyone want to draw that with me?

Lore chat snorping

[bronze chasm]

Maybe you can pay someone to do it in the art channel? If you want lol. I mean in a private server

[hushed steeple]

Sneep snorp
Sorry for ping 😅

[hushed steeple]

I notice these manta shrines here and in forest. Any background lore that anyone can think of?

[patent marlin]

Manta? I thought it was a bird-

[fair reef]

Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

[nimble ingot]

faction of the light

Also, the stone in orbit is also similar to that symbol.
Perhaps it is the symbol for the light of megabird?

[fair reef]

That symbol also appeared in the light engravings before being updated, they were the representation of the fallen light

[nimble ingot]

In the old intro, these symbols would represent stars.
My theory, they are like stars, like magical sources, light orbs and similar to the head light of the king's symbol.
So these would collectively represent the light.
Which may be easy to classify the day and wasteland elders being on the side of the light.

Which reminds me.
I was bugged with how the wasteland elder's shield did not match his constellation and mural art. The art showed him with a diamond shield.
What if the wasteland elder used to serve the diamond faction, and then converted to the light at some point?
This may add a new side to the elder either as a rebellious soldier, or a man that did what is right, no matter what. Still going to think it over.

[tepid veldt]

I bet most of us have seen this pillar when going/in sanctuary. Coincidentally, it also happens to point to the portal that leads to the wind paths (flight area). Both the sanctuary islands (and i think the bird islands before) and the underground forest are seasonal areas. I haven’t looked at all the seasonal areas yet but im assuming the pillars are there to guide players to the wind area (meaning that if the wind paths go to entirely different realms, the prairie wind path will be in sanctuary islands

Sorry if that was confusing, i kind of put it together during my forest cr

[distant turtle]

My skid is 1 year old. Canon lore

[fair reef]

Factions? The closest I've seen to factions is that certain realms were guided by certain elements, you could see in the light engravings of the cave of prophecies.

[nimble ingot]

Factions is my name for the two sides from the shields in battlefield.

[distant turtle]

I feel like they had the idea of factions with the two shields but didn't follow through to make everything consistent. Which is fine. Everything is supposed to be lost to time and the elements.

[fair reef]

Another thing about the cave that few discovered is that if certain objects of the place are illuminated, you can observe a story, it turns out to be the origin of that being that summons the Sky Kid (the players) to return the lost light of the constellations, will this be the king?

[nova widget]

If skykids are golems, why do we have a heartbeat?

[icy spruce]

Skids r golems is a theory

[nimble ingot]

yes, how can a human be fireproof, hold their breath in ice water, carry a lit candle in their chest, and not get smushed by flying rocks in a hell-storm?

[icy spruce]

Idk, that’s how they’re created ig

I mean, you gotta create someone that can withstand a rock storm to save the kingdom or smthn

[nimble ingot]

in theory, yeah.
We are like Pinocchio. kids that never grow up and are not true living children

[icy spruce]

Ye, it’s sad

[nimble ingot]

atleast there are no circus ringleaders to spirit us away and turn us into donkeys.

[icy spruce]

And extort us for money

[nimble ingot]

lol, what money? We dont need food, but sure do enjoy it. We can get tired, but recharge at the start of the next day.
Heck, we are using candles for trade! We live in a world where gold is more valuable as a decoration than a tradable currency.

[icy spruce]

Oh, I thought we were talking about Pinocchio still

[nimble ingot]

I got caught on a tagent.
Pinocchio did not have a lot of money, did not need to eat or drink but enjoyed doing so, and did not grasp the worth of money just yet.

[nova widget]

We turn to a faceless stone statue in eden and when we lose light

[hexed pewter]

This conversation reminded me of a question. How come the color pallet is the way that it is for the sky kids? Like the legs and arms are noticeably lighter than the face, or the vise versa sometimes, like what inspired the idea to make certain parts of the body different shades

[fair reef]

More than golems, they are beings of light, Every cosmetic we carry is not reflected in the shadow, that is because they are not there in truth, they are made of light, and the candle is only the physical form that is given to the essence of the soul.

In other words, it may be a peaceful world, but we constantly risk our lives.

[nimble ingot]

All is peaceful and fair until a krill shows up, lol.

[feral leaf]

Apperantly during the development of the game the Devs were thinking of also making the kirlls take your emotes, They Where going to steal your emotions

[sly lake]

Hi there! Does anyone have an image of the Sky runes that we see on Vault Elder's headdress?

[distant turtle]

🔻🔺♦️🔻

[icy spruce]

Lmao

[hushed steeple]

I can take a close up shot of the mask if you would like!

[hushed steeple]

Yeah they’re just random shapes.. have fun with you research tho! 🌚

[orchid jolt]

Wait, the ones on the sky kid version are different

(at least I think)

[orchid jolt]

they are different to the version we get from a vault spirit.

(im getting these from tara's videos)

[half shadow]

They’re still not anything I don’t think. Not that I recognize. Just kinda neat looking.

[orchid jolt]

yah, but thought id help show the difference lol

actually, now that I think about it, dark plants sorta have blocky "symbols" on them. They move quickly when your burning the plant. likley not meant to mean anything and just more for looks

[cedar sun]

Have you guys seen the trailer for season of flight?

I'm kinda nervous for quests

[analog vapor]

U know in one of the assembly treehouses there is a. DIAMOND

[feral leaf]

We will most likey open it up Ina later quest but it is still a flight path, sanctuary and starlight desert have wind paths but no markers

[cinder tapir]

https://twitter.com/sk_evi_/status/1446420882763575299?s=19 the prosthetic arm that one of them has is quite interesting 🤔

it makes me crave for more elder lore, i am just SO interested as to if thats a prosthetic arm or its just something that the model has

[patent marlin]

I'm pretty sure it's a prosthetic arm,both of them have it actually!
Gloating narcissist (seasonal spirit from the season of the little prince) also has one!
And the face and clothes and even his personality matches the valley elders..
I'm pretty sure they also had the thing that the twins carry too in the concept art! (You can see it in tgc's video when the season ended,it's on the last seconds)
(One was from seacuppy's story on insta and the other one from skybee0922 also on Instagram)

[quick terrace]

How come I just noticed-

[echo horizon]

hey lore chat, if bells are used to call creatures, and different bells are used for different creatures, do the statues with the thing on top also have a role? for ex it has something to do with the wind?

[jaunty tapir]

woah nice catch! i didn't notice that :oo i wonder if that's a warrior thing haha do they have to sacrifice an arm or something

[quick terrace]

is here too

[patent marlin]

No idea,but considering his apperance and all maybe he is (or was-) a secret triplet? 👀
Poor elders tho
If twins aren't easy to take care of just imagine triplets

[rigid mural]

I think just one of the twins would suffice to win a popularity contest against narcissist.

[cinder tapir]

whats up with the athletes in sky having prosthetic arms? nevertheless, its super cool

[rigid mural]

What if narcissist was like those players with spiky valley hair, rythm pants and black/white capes whose names are forbidden here, and wore these cosmetics to get praise ? It's realistic because I did exactly that but with forest hair.

[cinder tapir]

i wonder what the sports is like in the world of sky, super interesting 🍞

[patent marlin]

I dunno,but it is possible too

But one thing that made me discard it,it's his face
It doesn't looks like any of the spirits we saw,they usually have eyes and a simple face
But oddly enough narcissist doesn't has it,so maybe he's different from regular spirits

[rigid mural]

Traded eyes for a more defined nose

[patent marlin]

👀

[cinder tapir]

i guess hes just built different

[hushed steeple]

One of the Valley twins also had that arm, right?
…Guys I think we just found another apprentice of the Elders

[patent marlin]

Both of them has it actually ^^

[hushed steeple]

Speaking of little prince spirits..
Why do they have chains on them?

[jaunty tapir]

All of them have chains? :oo

Then they're probably prisoners there...

[hushed steeple]

Chained by adulthood

[hushed steeple]

Still, could we say that Narcissist was an apprentice to the Valley Elders?
He's vain, will take any praise, loves putting on a show…

[patent marlin]

Well maybe,i guess it's up to your interpretation 🤔

[jaunty tapir]

I'm thinking exiled actually not apprentice! :oo the prisoner narrative also work since (s)he has no audience...

[hushed steeple]

I'm beginning to think that the Elders may have alienated all their apprentices because they were too set in their ways and not willing to let in any new ideas
Implied by the Flight Guide this season
Firefly's assumption regrading Narcissist

[gilded spoke]

I heard it’s actually pouldrouns

[patent marlin]

What is that?-

[gilded spoke]

An arm piece where you keep knives and stuff, he prolly has them on because they look cool

[icy spruce]

Lmao

[gilded spoke]

like these

[patent marlin]

Oooooooh
Never heard of it

[naive wave]

Do I look cute?

[patent marlin]

For sure! But i think it's better if you took this to #screenshots-and-videos channel instead!

[rigid mural]

While the theory stands its ground, I feel like it's too soon to assume flight guide and ayin (prairie elder) stopped getting along. We're barely at the start of the season, and I feel like flight guide could have gone farther away if they really wanted to desert prairie

It's also kinda out of what little character we saw of the elder to go against the protection of creatures; it seems like it was their job after all, they're almost always depicted with butterflies.
Perhaps their hands were tied by duty, and their disciples had to either stay and obey to orders they didn't want to, or leave and keep their freedom.

_ _
Another thing, all those pots we see around the area must have come from somewhere; a group of BBFs settling here wouldn't have the means and boats to bring so many supplies ! They probably got help, which requires some vulnerability if you're AWOL and intend to stay that way.

[hushed steeple]

…hopefully we find out more over the course of the season

[half shadow]

I feel the most gentle vibes from the Prarie Elder/Ayin. Also, I had assumed at least that the Flight GC was a “former” apprentice in the sense that they obviously aren’t anymore, considering they are now a spirit, rather than having some kind of falling out. But I suppose both could be true! I’m excited for the next quest even though I utterly despise having to wait for sooooo long

Also, does anybody else assign little nicknames for the spirits sometimes? Even if just to make theories easier to type. Here’s what I have for Flight:

1. Questgiver is just QC or “Flight” themselves

2. Lively Navigator is Nav

3. Tinkering Chimesmith is Chimes

4. Light Whisperer is Whisp

5. Talented Builder is just Build or “TB”

[nimble ingot]

Thanks to you, I am going to call the light whisper a wisp, lol.
Now I am more determined to get the hair and paints.

[hushed steeple]

I'm drawing rn and having a hard time of it but I have nicknames, yeah

[nimble ingot]

oh? Would like some help or feedback?

[rigid mural]

Ayin feels more accidentally gentle to me just by virtue of being slow and probably half asleep

[half shadow]

As somebody who is both slow and half asleep I agree and felt seen

[rigid mural]

Ayin, who just woke up and is being swarmed by skykids wanting to cuddle:

[restive mantle]

Hello, lore chat!

[hushed steeple]

I just started Still feeling out the positions of the components, if that makes sense?

[half shadow]

Here’s my unofficial masterdump of silly Flight spirit headcanons:
QC is the designated Mom Friend of the group and sometimes overdoes for their friends without caring for themselves, so the others will group up to plan nice surprises for them for time to time. Whisp on the other hand is everybody’s younger sibling and they milk that to their advantage to get the others to help them with creature-rearing tasks like brushing giant light chicken feathers. Chimes prefers to work by themselves most of the time and can get lost in tinkering for days so it’s routine to stop by and check up on them. Their hearing is very sensitive due to their work so they prefer quiet, low-energy hangout sessions and gift the others lots of handmade crafts. Nav and TB have history together as Nav was a sailor and TB’s from a long line of boatmakers. Nav is a little immature and likes to play pranks but is extremely protective of their friends. TB is just the glue that holds everybody together and it’s impossible to not get along with them; tells the best jokes, lets the others (mainly Nav and Whisp) just kinda hang off of them for fun.

[hushed steeple]

I'm calling it a night with the drawings

Names for the Flight spirits, let's go

1. Baby manta honk spirit - literally that, or the veterinarian
2. Talented Builder - The "Tada" spirit
3. Lively Navigator - air hostess
4. Chimesmith - Twinkle, twinkle worker
5. Flight guide - A fren

[hushed steeple]

I just saw the name list of the TGC staff and the latest letter from the devs and now I'm tempted to change my nickname to Larrychaeologist

[jaunty tapir]

Yes, we are all Larry

[hushed steeple]

There we go

[icy spruce]

[fickle tundra]

i just tought of something.. why do skykids have a heartbeat if they have no organs at all?

[tame grotto]

oh my god

[fickle tundra]

lol now you cant unsee it

[cloud prism]

You know the gems you light to open doors and stuff? They're tourmaline. It can be both blue and yellow, can be found in desert, forests, etc (supporting lore), and can be used as a power source when provided with heat. (Not a ton of power, but there are also flying stone boats. "Sufficiently advanced technology" for the win!)

[rigid mural]

So how are we feeling about our realm/elder/TLP spirit parallels

[raw crypt]

i was incorrect abt my connections BUT AUGH

[rigid mural]

Lamplighter for forest is... interesting if you want to correlate with the elders 👀

[dry ivy]

Sup homies what I miss

I haven’t been here for...like a week?

[rigid mural]

The theory that all our cosmetics are light magic stands some ground, the fact that we see flames right before becoming bald and featureless when our flame goes out could be a hint our shadows not reflecting what we wear aren't just to save storage space.
Kinda justifies the clipping too lmao.

[hushed steeple]

Question, could these towers shoot objects? These are king statues above the temple in the battlefield. They have pipes feeding directly into the canon shaped pipes.

If so.. that would make an unfair advantage in the war.

[dry ivy]

Oh WOAH I never noticed that!!! Cannons???

[naive sequoia]

Weren't those cannons in the concept art? They were supposed to shoot at us

[harsh pecan]

Ye

[neat flint]

My theories about each little prince spirit represents an elder/realm are kinda true

And Samantha

[opal briar]

Dimond around our light also when we pull out our candle the light varnish’s , that IS our candle . Got the little detail from a Reddit post

[half shadow]

Yo hang on what’s this? 👀

[rigid mural]

@half shadow same thing as this

[hushed steeple]

I can't unsee this

I'm also on the hunt for spherical objects in the world of Sky because the Eden elder is shown with a circle close to their mouth in the Vault cutscene.

So far I only had the cores of spirits to go on – black spheres that can sometimes give candle wax.

But but but
Valley Citadel has those giant floating gyroscope-things. And I found a solid sphere at the centre of the central largest one.

What are other objects in Sky that are spherical?

[arctic sequoia]

The sun 🥺 /j im sorry

[hushed steeple]

The planets/asteroids you can visit with the big green cape

[rigid mural]

Lightseeker orbs; three are on a miniature boat in the isle tunnel (where you get the piggyback spirit).

You could also look at the wall paintings on the second tower... perch... thing, the one next to which you find the troupe greeter. Has pictures of spirits in boats holding up sun things.
Should probably check if it appeared during the lightseeker season or if it was here before; in the former case, it could represent the boat orbs in the piggyback tunnel...

Anyone knows what the lore of lightseekers season was besides "funny rain spirits chase light orbs" ?

[hushed steeple]

I've seen the murals you're talking about. They're in-game paintings, not related to a season.
And yeah! I didn't even think about the Isle underground boat
Now that I think about it, the lights we're supposed to catch – whether colored of just the "catch the light" quests – are also spherical!

Makes you think
Was the Eden elder just bent on consuming light!?

[upbeat rampart]

Prisoners of their own mind representation, imo

[fierce elbow]

I actually have a pretty dark theory about light whisperer
tw: ||su1c1d3||, death

||i think light whisperer committed su1c1d3 because of the rope here, it also could've been drowning because their right next to a pool that could've been deeper but got drained out||

[harsh pecan]

||Did they do it somewhere else? It’s not that high so I don’t think they could’ve done it there, if they did||

[fierce elbow]

||it could've have been that they removed the corpse and hung the rope somewhere else||

[harsh pecan]

||Tbh if I were them I’d dispose the thing that was used to kill my friend||

[fierce elbow]

||they'd could've kept it as a memorial of light whisperer ||

[harsh pecan]

||I see, I still wonder why the Light Whisperer would do it though||

[fierce elbow]

||i have no idea, it could've been they would have depression or some sort||
||or that they accidently k1lled a bird while giving them medication and did it because of all the guilt||

[harsh pecan]

||Dang…they were even the youngest of the group…||

[fierce elbow]

||and maybe that the tinkering spirit found the corpse first and they became tinkering spirit||

[harsh pecan]

||I kinda feel bad now||

[fierce elbow]

[fierce elbow]

the crying spirit's canon story is sad too tho
cuz them and their friends were stuck in a cave and they all died 1 by one
and the crying spirit was moarning over their graves
and that's depressing

[harsh pecan]

Yes

[fierce elbow]

It's 9 am, wanna do quests?
I'll add you

[harsh pecan]

I can’t do quests rn, but we can still be friends if you want

[fierce elbow]

alr
I'll send a qr code later

[fierce elbow]

||this also could've been their coffin||

[merry grotto]

Hi idk is this a lore or no but spiky valley elder have a smoother leg than their twin!

[fierce elbow]

just post it in #screenshots-and-videos

[merry grotto]

I kept thinking about this for no reason, the valley elders cutscene also prove that mushroom have pointy leg. Idk is it bevause they use the same model and it's just an error, or it was intended. Idk should i take this seriously or not😭

[harsh pecan]

Oh wow

[harsh pecan]

Might’ve been intended imo

[merry grotto]

I think im taking this too seriously

[hushed steeple]

I think so too i mean there's a lot of little details in sky

[harsh pecan]

I usually overthink things too so dw

[merry grotto]

What if their leg has some of the uhhh twin connection? Like, mushroom valley elder have a smoother hair but pointy legg, and spiky elder have a spiky/pointy hair but smooth leg👀 btw smootb leg elder so cute

[harsh pecan]

Wow

[thick plaza]

Storms normally move, so why does the Storm of Eden stay in one place?

[fierce elbow]

hmm.. maybe there's a kind of force field protecting the other areas
it could also be that the eden storm is sort of magnetic, so it only stays attached to that one area

[stable flax]

Guys where can I go to start getting into sky lore? I am looking online but its kinda confusing without starting from the beginning

[icy spruce]

DO YOU NEED SOME DO C S

[calm ingot]

I always wanted to know about the dark whale in the beginning of golden wasteland, any theories?

[stable flax]

YES SEND ME EVERYTHING U GOT

[icy spruce]

Lore Moff Doc (credits to Bricky)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing

The Canon Lore Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing

The Theory Vault
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing

Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing

I HAVE MORE BUT THEY’RE THEORIES DOCS

[stable flax]

SEND THOSE TOO AND I CAN READ THOSE AFTER

[icy spruce]

OKAY

[stable flax]

Wait see i’m already confused, I thought the valley had elders that were twins which is why u can get two hair cosmetics

[icy spruce]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BdMPoH0kRZOYDKvl2g5eQSH0h6JlvMHgBFs7P5Lg9NE/edit

Skyshop poems (OUTDATED)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YwQ4EKsPLyhk9VN5hw43XqFX-7xTdoBE0nGGCnn51L4/edit

Nat geo sky script (it have some theories ig)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16e0YHxMtV3PWiOOWnADU_-dylDurpnuR1NzvmZh94DA/edit

Spirit info based from the devs

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Iz8D_RX3DFQ_fI07ZmjM6eFCWR-0ELhOC2nUKBdYAqg/edit

This has no use but ig ya’ll are interested in this (FAN scientific names)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OIg6CWiP7jX5d9oQECNbGlPwJE5ID_M4IJEWRlWauMc/edit

Fan timeline

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-WO5oE6SJBu162y6M5L3qRG3Ld1eGjIuAHTLzsZMBc0/edit

Never got finished but ye (Anthropology thing)

[cinder tapir]

according to the sassy drifter hint, they have good skin healthcare

when was the spirit info doc made?

[icy spruce]

Uhhh, last-last week I think idk

[rigid mural]

That last line is

[rigid mural]

Seen someone on tumblr say the Eden storm could be volcanic in nature since it's dry with lightning, which makes sense to me !

[random narwhal]

eden light beam irl formed by a meteor falling near the volcano. i imagine it might produce a similar but more violent effect if it landed inside? (for instance, causing volcanic lava and debris to spew out?)

fun factoid: the colour of the ‘tail’ indicates the composition of the meteor; in this one, the green indicates the presence of high amounts of nickel.

[spice eagle]

I wanna ask about your thoughts on the boat with the 3 light orbs in the isle tunnel/cave?
what does it resemble ?

[thick plaza]

Maybe it was for worship?

[thick plaza]

There is a spirit located there, maybe that could give some clues?

[spice eagle]

I'll see what i can find

[icy spruce]

Its an enchatment thing, Inthink u can get spells from it during enchant

[spice eagle]

but it's in isle (?)

[icy spruce]

Ye, Grattitude-Enchant had their spirits scattered among the 6 realms unlike today’s seasons where they stay in one place

[spice eagle]

I seeeee!!! tytyty

is there is some sort of lore about isle? a back story or smth it represents ? i mean I have an over all idea but i would like to go thru detail

[lilac stone]

Why is their a skinned/made of sand turtle infront of citadel

[rigid mural]

Lightseekers actually !

[spice eagle]

oAh

[jaunty tapir]

Isle with grass was shown in switch trailer!

[hushed steeple]

In the concept art, isle represents birth.

[spice eagle]

Thank you guys!
also about the concept art, where can i find those

[hushed steeple]

You can check pins and also search up “ Tom zhao concept art”

( And by search up, I mean in a search engine )

[boreal nebula]

What do you think could be .. this?

[hushed steeple]

Forget the name.. the front of the ship? -.-

[boreal nebula]

Finally realized, all these cloath strips are used to a rudimental yet useful weather crane, to point the direction of the winds

Since he is responsible for the navigation signals he checked them and tight the knots

[nimble crater]

Is the reason the flight spirits have mantas attached to their boats while the ones in valley dont, since valley is... More advanced?

But in old beta didn't isle have boats too and it had padels at the bottom like the boat that takes u to forgotten ark

[neat flint]

Maybe they’re against using power diamonds

[hushed steeple]

This opens the possibility for: Giant manta with a ship deck on its back.

[fierce elbow]

A probability is that the flight area is just a home that all of the spirits made so they dont have advanced technology
kind of like the treehouse

[boreal nebula]

This baby manta close up with a tiny horn makes me wonder

Does it gron into a small to regular manta (without horns) only to become a doublewings mantas (with horns)

Or this baby is the infant of the doublewings mantas, thus meanings there are different species of mantas (wings, doublewings, multiwings and "elderly mantas")

After all multiwings in Vault have their babies too

[fierce elbow]

Its kinda sad that there are child spirits, and spirits are mostly dead
That means some children died at a young age and that's depressing

[hushed steeple]

Do the flappy pancake mantas that circle around the bell tower in sanctuary have a horn?

[boreal nebula]

Let me see

[hushed steeple]

Last I remember some of them where frozen in place baha. At least in switch version.

[boreal nebula]

Yes, they do... Have the horn, I mean

[boreal nebula]

Maybe it's just a personal choice, but since the Builder repaired that transport boat it means they don't impose their way of living

[upbeat rampart]

Quick drop, sorry to interrupt, but they also drop what I assume is darkness. The (minute) rock like things down. Does that mean they have light inside but coated by rocks like stonekids?

...wait would that mean that corrupted skykids would, in a sense, have their light extracted and needs wl? For that?

[fierce elbow]

yeah or maybe they dont have the technology or just dont use it because mantas were used to power the diamond factory
and theres mantas at flight area

[boreal nebula]

As I pointed out earlier they use cloath strips as wind markers even if the Chimesmith could build their own masterfully, so maybe the choose to appreciate simple solutions

About the powerdiamonds = mantas, I think that theory doesn't stand with the current Temple we have now that are slightly but different after all to the Factory concept art

See, she could build one exactly as those in Prairie and Sanctuary

Plus I think they were easily accessible even from more modern mean of transport, like the skilift to Yeti's Peek, which points into a windpath to Flight (opening after a new quest, if I had to bet I would say even thr next one too)

Because the next signpost in the mist seems to point towards a pinky light opening, as the already revealed one point into Underground Cave in Forest

[hushed steeple]

Ooo then they are the same species of pancake!

[nimble ingot]

The first image looks a bit spooky with the kid in the mist.

@pastel brook umm, ok?
Standing in, I suppose.

[uncut scaffold]

Ty )) & Sorry wrong chat 😅

[nimble ingot]

oh, I was wondering why you asked for it.
No worries though, lol.

[rigid mural]

spirit being a king. Looks like the way a surfer stands on a board, so this feels more like a short distance/leisure transport than something the ancestors did on the regular.

[hushed steeple]

Well, they are the "Backflipping Champion", aren't they?
They have that privilege

[hushed steeple]

@nimble ingot @rigid mural
May I DM you guys?

[astral swift]

Heya! Just wondering if anyone knows if the Valley Elders have names? Or if they are simply called Elder of the Vault, etc.?

[hushed steeple]

In the concepts they do (I don't keep track of them, but they're all named after Hebrew letters)
But in the live version they don't
The Valley Elders are counted as one (Someone mentioned something about Siamese twins, I think?) and called...Samek? I think? Again, I'm bad with the Elders' names 😅

[rigid mural]

...sure ? What is it about ?

[hushed steeple]

I mentioned a fic I'm writing – that

[rigid mural]

Also the concept elder names are:
Daleth
Ayin
Teth
Samekh
Tsadi
Lamed

[nimble ingot]

sure thing

[hushed steeple]

Thank you!

[shy brook]

Ok so I usually don't go to this channel since I go along with most theories but I have a thought that's been itching me for some time.

I noticed that Forest shares a similar theme in it's season and that is reconnecting and building paths.

In Belonging, your whole goal is to reconnect a family that's lost.
In assembly, you open up pathways that lead to other parts of the forest.
In flight, you open up wind paths that lead to other realms across the skyworld.

I wonder what it means...

[hushed steeple]

Maybe it’s just that the Eden explosion just wiped everything out so you have to fix these things for the spirits so that they can ascend and be happy.. idk

[shy brook]

But in forest the theme of reconnecting is much more prominent than in other realms.
I wonder if forest used to be a checkpoint or something for travelers and you have to rebuild the paths that lead to other realms again.

[rigid mural]

I feel like the point of forest was to be misleading and have an almost labyrinth-like map, with all these shortcuts. Perhaps it's the lost and found of the kingdom.

[shy brook]

I remember in the concept art the whole idea of forest was to mislead skykids from the right path. So it might not be too far off.

I also remember that one of the ideas was to create a fake skykid that would lead you and get you lost.

[hushed steeple]

Not me losing my stars in the rain because I lost my way as a moth

[abstract badger]

Anyone else find it interesting that, in a land consistently threatened by some strange darkness, there are some places where the light is so overwhelming that you’re just constantlt charging? The Citadel, the Wind Paths, and the Bird’s Nest are what comes to mind here— you never run out of cape energy. I understand that a constant recharge is necessary for the design of these bottomless areas to work, but even the Valley Coliseum made you fall into the clouds to recharge (before they gave us a ground to skate on). Heck, even the Bird’s Nest has its limitations, and you’ll find plenty of areas where you won’t recharge. But the Citadel? Light magnet. Wind paths? It’s like the air is made of light. I’d contrast this to Eden, where you are constantly losing light. I think it’s interesting. I like to think that these are the places are untouched by darkness, so maybe all of Sky was once like that— filled with an abundance of light— and the dark crystals drained it to the point where, even in the safer and more natural realms (like Isle and Prairie), we have to store it, conserve it, and recharge at every opportunity.

[hushed steeple]

That’s a really cool thought!!

[rigid mural]

I like to think Citadel's abundance comes from the element of Air we see was given to the twins in Prophecy

[hushed steeple]

...but then what about Earth and the draining water of Forest?
And Wasteland is literally light-bonking-away realm

[hushed steeple]

Yo I have found a website which u can find people's (both fictional and real) and things' personalities, including Sky

And there's more but most of them are empty

[nimble ingot]

First off, please can you share the link?
Second, I guess my skykid could be an elder's apprentice, lol!

[hushed steeple]

https://www.personality-database.com

[feral leaf]

LMAO kirll are infp pfft

[nimble ingot]

yup,
fun fact, according to the personality site (not the one linked), William Shakespeare also has this personality type.
Now I see the krill take to hunting skykids like poetry. Sometimes, there is no rhyme or reason to why they target skykids.

[half shadow]

LMAO I’M INFP

[nimble ingot]

so, you are a bookworm, lol?
Also a dark dragon!?
There are a couple of more matches.

[half shadow]

visibly sweating

no comment

That site is definitely people just making things up for fun but I think it’s hilarious

[nimble ingot]

Definitely, is it fun to kill time browsing over 🙂

Though some of these might give some insight on the character.
Even though, it is harder to pin down as lore evidence, because these are personality tests for character that do not speak, or have other interactions. So it is mostly well meaning fanon.

[hybrid kestrel]

Not sure if this really belongs here, but why exactly is it called Eye of Eden?
Nothing really resembles an Eye, it’s more of a heaven
And who is Eden??? Was it a spirit who died venturing there? I suppose the “Eye” could be the door you get reborn from, since it somewhat resembles an eye
And also, why does Eden have so much darkness surrounding just that one part? After you get past it it’s just light, all light creatures and no dark ones, it’s very strange to me, almost like they’re making a border, but even then, the abundance of Krill could easily take on a single whale, and even the Mantas and Jellyfish, since it seems as if the Jellyfish and Mantas don’t have any defences

[nimble ingot]

This might be a reference to the old name of the realm, given it has always kept the Eye part.

Eden's old name was Storm. So, it would make sense to call it the Eye of the Storm, since it is the centre of the massive and relentless storm in Eden.

[hybrid kestrel]

Ohhhh I see, that actually makes a lot of sense

[nimble ingot]

Some of the old names still have relevance to their realms.
Ex. Hidden Forest used to be called Rain.
I wonder how it got its name, lol.

[hybrid kestrel]

Lol

[nimble ingot]

You are on the right track.
Since there is so much Darkness in the world. The history of the game gives hints that something went terribly wrong in Eden.
The Elder is missing, the realm is, as you said, nothing like its name should suggest and unlike the other realms, your skykid does not make through Eden in one piece.
There is theoretically, an endless cycle that the world is caught up in. A time loop, as I like to think is happening, where time seems to reset every day or every week in places.

Eden is also a place where the very first sin took place in Christianity, so this might be a parallel to how Eden is the place where the darkness started spreading. It is also the only realm that has a clear biblical connotation and not a name that literal such as island, prairie, forest, valley, wasteland, vault or orbit.

[hybrid kestrel]

I wonder what Eden looked like before the Darkness, and what the Elder looked like

[nimble ingot]

Probably epic looking since very few parts of it survived floating on the ascension route to Orbit.

[hybrid kestrel]

True true

[nimble ingot]

Have you seen the Blue Eden?

spooky, right? 🙂
especially the floating statues.

yup. I sort of wish the old dawn level returns. It looked so much better than the blank beach of current dawn.

I get it is a moth tutorial, but still...

[hybrid kestrel]

Blue Eden?

Shadow Kid???

[harsh pecan]

Eden was blue before launch

[hybrid kestrel]

Ohhhh I see

[harsh pecan]

It’s probably because Light Awaits was the old version of Sky

[hybrid kestrel]

There is so much stuff I’m discovering just now in this chat

[harsh pecan]

Yea, they actually revealed some lore there

[nimble ingot]

Shadow kids were what skykid used to start out as. Children of darkness all the way back in beta.
Here is the stream that shows this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS2Ep_ml24s&t=7s

[harsh pecan]

Nice 👍, also have you seen the lore moff doc?

[hybrid kestrel]

Yoooo that’s sick, I wonder if that version of Sky still exists somewhere

[nimble ingot]

huh, my message did no send?

Blue eden was in the beta, light awaits, very few players managed to reach it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbE6Q816RcE&t=24s
Here is a youtube of it and a link to another video that showed the floating statues.
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[harsh pecan]

I heard somewhere that there were many dead skids on the beach

[hybrid kestrel]

Nope lol

[harsh pecan]

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

credits to Bricky

[nimble ingot]

I doubt it, unless staff at TGC keeps backups for the old builds of the game.

Also, welcome to lore chat 🙂
(see pinned messages for more docs)

[hybrid kestrel]

True, it just looks really cool though, a lot better than the full release version of Isle imo (if it’s supposed to be Isle)

[harsh pecan]

Isle looked so good back then…

[hybrid kestrel]

I agree

[harsh pecan]

._.

Ye

[nimble ingot]

If only there was a reason why this did not stay in the game.
This is practically BEAMING mystery and adventure!

[harsh pecan]

Yea…

[nimble ingot]

yeah 😦
I'd like to know why though....
Even after a year, the realm is still a favourite because it hold so much potential, and even more so knowing how it looked like in the past.
Hope this does either return or make an appearance in a season.
Season of Remorse or Revival

Season of Antiquity

[rigid mural]

Show ???

[wooden crypt]

It was so pretty back then
Our new isle looks terrible

[harsh pecan]

It’s not too bad imo, it’s just really plain…

[wooden crypt]

I mean
I never have the motivation to go back to it
I would absolutely go back if it looked like that

[barren ruin]

i think skykids are made from clay and stuff

mostly bone clay and red clay but they probably have other stuff inside them as well

on the inside theyre probably like the smoke waterfall device things w a bunch of ledges and stairs and stuff, and a room in the chest for their flame to go

[feral leaf]

I assumed they were made of smth similar to clay as well

[hybrid kestrel]

I always thought they were made of wood lol, their masks at least
Dunno why, it just makes sense to me

Yea

[neon wyvern]

The regular masks might be unglazed clay
Colored ones or the dark ones are different types of clay or painted clay

[barren ruin]

yknow whatd be the cutest thing. a mask cosmetic thats obviously handmade and kind of lopsided 🥺 with little handprint marks and everything

[nimble ingot]

some in game mask do look painted.
If I recall correctly, the masks could be made of stone.

[barren ruin]

i love all the sky kids so much
theyre just children and theyre doing their best
i want to hold one

[hybrid kestrel]

I know this doesn’t relate to Sky, but you reminded me that I got a hug today for the first time in over a year and I almost cried, highlight of my day lmao ngl I feel a bit embarrassed to say that

[neon wyvern]

Mememememememsmdmsmdmsmdmsmmememememememe
ME

[rigid mural]

Got a story where painting your mask means you're a fully fledged member of an explorer guild

[dense folio]

as in, paint the masks onto their face or paint the existing masks to decorate them?

what do you guys think skykids’ masks and bodies are made of?

[olive steppe]

I want a cape where you can paint your own cape and add decos on it

[icy spruce]

#wishlist-and-ideas-archived

[dense stream]

I imagine their bodies are like tightly packed kinetic sand with their masks helping to hold in their light and keep their bodies together

[icy spruce]

I can see it made of a clay-like material, except it’s unbreakable

[golden sparrow]

Me: goes on a long rant about krills and getting krilled
The rant: gets deleted
Me:

[icy spruce]

Rip

[abstract shard]

Aren't sky kids stars?
I thought they were stars, if yes, then they need to be made of energy. Or plasma, maybe? Stars are made of Hydrogen and Helium plasma.

[nimble ingot]

skykids are possibly hybrid, a combination of light and darkness.

[abstract shard]

However, other sky kids, whom you meet at the orbit are like stars in a humanoid form. Sky kids are probably only made of light, flame, plasma, energy, when they're in their true form. But when they were sent to the planet of sky, they became more human like.
Sky kids in the orbit don't have masks either.

[nimble ingot]

true.
What may support the hybrid angle is at the end of eden, are a darken version of the skykid and you hug a light kid (headcanon nickname). These two halves seem to make up the skykid.

[abstract shard]

Yeah, probably.

[nimble ingot]

you are not wrong about the star theory.
The lore channel is mostly fanon in any case.

Fun fact, the winged light used to be called stars in the game.

[neon wyvern]

Maybe skids are stars in a clay shell?
And then the fire thing, because you need fire to harden clay, once they run out of flame they start to fall apart

[icy spruce]

I think of that too

Tho I also think that skids are like a pure diamond or smthn (since they can absorb WLs and WLs are light after all)

[neon wyvern]

Maybe

[abstract shard]

They might be like that when they're on the planet of sky. But when they're in the orbit, they are made of pure energy.

[abstract shard]

Diamonds aren't the only things capable of storing energy.

[icy spruce]

Ok

So uh, what are the other things capable of syoring energy?

[abstract shard]

Every object is capable of it.

[nimble ingot]

light creatures, candles, flames, clouds, intense sunlight and skykids can charge and supposed store light (depends on the source)/

[abstract shard]

Frozen, or cold objects melt by absorbing more energy.
There is a big flaw here
[What]
If sky kids are made of energy, like H2 and He plasmas, then they must have a very powerful gravity. Or else they'll just fade away.

[nimble ingot]

the world of sky may have some things that do not make sense.
ex. the ice rink water is basically using the same water law as in SpongebobSquarepants.
You can walk and fly in that water, you dont need to hold you breath, flames can exist under the water and jellyfish can float down there.
Still dont get why that particular pond of water is like that, by every other water source in the game does not let skykids use there candles and swim on the surface.

[abstract shard]

Yeah, that place is one of the most strange places in sky.
Most of the things do make sense.

[hushed steeple]

That pond is said to have one of the purest mountains water.. maybe since it’s so pure we can be under there..

[nimble ingot]

true, would holy mountain water allow candles to burn in it though?

[analog vapor]

Have you noticed the diamond ♦️ symbol is everywhere in in vault of KNOWLEDGE

[hushed steeple]

Yep.. even in the lanterns.. (I’m just trying to show off a horrible photo of me )

[analog vapor]

In vault there is obviously high tech. Are the diamonds used as a source of energy to power up their inventions?

[hushed steeple]

Yep.. and it is hypothesized that the diamonds are what caused the destruction of the kingdom x)

[neon wyvern]

So I visited the flight island thinking about yesterday’s discussion about how Light Whisperer may have died and well
I noticed that Flight Guide and Whisperer have a tunnel connecting their two areas, so Guide could check on them
Which further cements my belief in that theory

[analog vapor]

Has anyone noticed the text when you go in the flight area. It says rebuild the path of an ancient kingdom or sumthin like that

[cursive galleon]

Happy lore chat Birthday! (if my memory of that one message somewhere is right)

[hushed steeple]

Ohhhh I forgot even tho I said that..

[analog vapor]

Happy lore chat birthday? 🎂

[hushed steeple]

Lore chat was first created in October 10th 2019

[analog vapor]

Oh. Yay. Hmmmmmmm. I want a season about lore. Yummy scrumtios lore like this cake I made for lore chat’s birthday. Ok so.... You know the new trailer right. At the end of it gave me chills. Maybe tgc is giving us clues about an upcoming season?

[hushed steeple]

Oh my god I’m so dumb
I didn’t watch it all the way through.. that looks so cool tho

At the end I heard krill noises 👀

[analog vapor]

Ok so I made some theories while killling my brain... Maybe eden was once a great place like a uhhh spirit world? Where people end their adventures. Ok so... It was ruined by darkness and the elder is either evil or ran away cause of the darkness. And uhhhh is religion allowed here. Like a tad bit. Prob not imma check the rules

[cursive galleon]

At the end of the Flight trailer it shows the corruption so maybe we get to see uncorruptded krill! Ooh what if we get to uncorrupt the krill and it becomes our friend!!! And accidentally causes a minor apocalypse at the wind tunnels but who cares.

[hushed steeple]

wait what flight trailer im confused

||I think it was just showing a future quest ( from a beta player hehe)||

[cursive galleon]

Season of Flight had a trailer on Youtube. It's really cool!

[hushed steeple]

So do those murals show only while candles are lit? Because it seems when darkness came the murals receded so I assume the darkness made the candles go out.

[hushed steeple]

This makes everything a lot more interesting

[hushed steeple]

Quick theory: I think the entire ancient Kingdom was called Eden, with the darkstone being the ‚forbidden fruit‘. What we call Eden is called the Eye in game, isn‘t it? Either Eye of Eden or Eye of the Storm.

[nimble ingot]

Today is the reset day for Eden.
While me, @rigid mural their friend and another friend embarked on the Journey, I could not help but notice 3 statues were inactive (dead) and did not take to wl. I did not activate them yet and wonder why 3 were inactive. Has this happened to anyone else?
One dead statue is not an issue, I though it was just a bug since the little prince's quest, but has this happened to anyone else too?

[rigid mural]

You tagged the wrong Vela bud xD
But yeah it's not the first time I see inactive statues.

[sharp latch]

Before the point of no return or after, because there are a couple statues that I’ve seen before crossing

[rigid mural]

After, of course.

[sharp latch]

Kk

[hushed steeple]

Maybe they’re past skykids.. I did Eden today too with like 5 other friends..

[nimble ingot]

That aside here is an interesting detail in Eden.
Once you lose all of your winged light, the diamond shines brighter and gives off a flash of white light, turning your skykid into a stone statue.
During the Little Prince's quest, there is a cutscene that shows how the little prince is also turned into a stone statue after the diamond flashes white.

What if the diamond can only turn skykids into statues when they do not have any winged light to protect them?
What if the statue kids were skykids that did not survive because there were not any winged light for them to gather? Then again, how would they be able to make it that far out?
Either way, I think that flash right as the skykids turns into stone is important and something I will write down as something that particular red diamond can do.

...could this have been used as a weapon? 🪶

[sharp latch]

I can find the pictures if y’all want?

[sharp latch]

Yeah! My theory is that statue kids are skykids who gave up all their light for other skids, and that it’s sort of a never ending cycle

[rigid mural]

Next time, I will take you with me as well and will try to record that.

[restive plover]

As someone who barely started tge game an obly went through eden once (solo),
that is what I got from it vibe wise. When I finaly turned to stone I just become one with the other statues

[mental pond]

But then again, you are reborn at the end. Do you think that someone else revives you and you just... don't recognize the time skip or do you think there is some reason that the others could not be reborn on their own?

[sharp latch]

I think the former option

[restive plover]

Yeah like Buggo said, first option and you just got lucky.
Never ending circle has to start somehwere

[sharp latch]

And for gameplay reasons you can’t be actually waiting for that long

[restive plover]

time skip ftw!!

[mental pond]

XD yeah

Furthermore, what about the spirits? were they sky kids who didn't die on eden? Some have capes.

[nimble ingot]

skykids and ancestors may be different kinds of characters

[sharp latch]

I believe it is confirmed by the creators that ancestors and skids are different species but in the same family or something like that (correct me if I’m wrong)

[sand cedar]

My own hc is that sky kids are hand made vessels of sorts before everyone died out

[hot bane]

some speculation of sky's evolution

[icy spruce]

Ooo

[harsh pecan]

Interesting

[rigid mural]

I love how the ancestors have birds as their evolutionary cousins

[harsh pecan]

Lol

[hushed steeple]

Eh.. evolution works in mysterious ways

[harsh pecan]

Wait….the Jellyfishes used to have antlers???? Noooo 😭

[smoky pebble]

Hmmmm... I wonder what are the food staples in Sky? And how they vary across the different kingdoms - any thoughts?

[harsh pecan]

I’m not sure, I don’t even know if they actually ate food

[smoky pebble]

Well, there's a crab spit roast in Golden Wasteland. I'd feel that implies food is a thing in Sky

[harsh pecan]

Oh yea

[hushed steeple]

I noticed the inactive satues

[hot bane]

Yeah biped squad

[civic atlas]

Hello lore chat, do you have any idea what are this?

Are this coffins or tables?

[harsh pecan]

Probably a table

[civic atlas]

That's one weird table

[spice eagle]

omg i can't unsee that! it's a quite interesting

[civic atlas]

There are 3 on the main island where light whisperer's spirit kneels

[hot basalt]

Krill tricks? Or are we doomed now?

[lethal jasper]

HOLY CRAP EDEN IS SO HARD THE SECOND TIME GOING UP-

[quick terrace]

To me they’re more like the benches that you see at the vets

[civic atlas]

But light whisperer perform her/his treatment on his/her own island