lore-discussion-spoilers

[hushed steeple]

I wonder why they are there and why they are so exhausted

[cinder flax]

Random, idea being blurted out: what if the twins are encased in the ice within the ice rink in front of the temple? And the other elders encased themselves in spots within their realms we cannot reach? They sealed themselves away with what little power they had left to try and preserve themselves to be freed and welcomed into the next generation whenever that had happened

[icy spruce]

Nice

[cinder flax]

Grim revelation if that was to be true for the twins: we've been skating over their frozen and probably alive bodies for a while now without a clue.

[balmy ermine]

oh-

[sweet mural]

...........

[heady sequoia]

me with first comment: cool
second one: what the actual AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[rigid mural]

I did not read that.

THE MASKS CAN EMOTE ??? HELLO ???

[stark marten]

Well chibis have been able to blink for a while so it wouldn't be that surprising I guess

[celest saffron]

I have this lore idea of the king that he died in his castle after the destruction, leaving the other six elders behind

[rigid mural]

Yeah but when they blink you can see it's the face behind the mask, not the mask itself.

[icy spruce]

It’s cursed

Why does the mask wink, AAAAAA

[stark marten]

In this case I would probably chalk it up to artistic liberties since it's just for promotional art for the season

[harsh pecan]

So…it isn’t canon?

[sly lake]

Patch moth has winked before, so I think it's a suspension of disbelief case, for the promotional artwork.

[harsh pecan]

That makes sense

[stark marten]

Yeah this artwork is done in a way that's meant to be cute and lively and breathe more life and personality into the characters than we get just from their in-game 3D models. So things like this being canon or not is kind of a minor thing I guess. I would imagine that the spirits would have been able to express themselves more than what we see, but TGC is limited by their technology and not nuking everyone's devices with too much detail

[hushed steeple]

I want blinking skykids though

Again the other places updating before discord gets the navigator’s bio.....harump!

[neat flint]

Lively Navigator was a sailor before

[lethal stump]

perhaps navigator and saluting captain once knew each other

[cinder flax]

What if they were the person sailing away?

[restive cosmos]

hello

[tulip dune]

the existence of an access thanks to the new season to the forgotten ark. it means that the spirits of the season of charms could return home. but that the wind currents Were they very dangerous To go without a boat?

[neat flint]

Season of charms?

[rigid mural]

Season of enchantment you meant ?

[tulip dune]

yes enchantments the translator 😂🤣

[rigid mural]

Just realized but maybe the flight season was planned for autumn since that's usually when birds start migration.

[upbeat rampart]

I just found this from #eden-spoilers [not mine], Gw elder's shield
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602914067044368405/892987549784633404/SKY_20210928_212523_.jpg

[hushed steeple]

Honestly Eden looks so much like the other realms, it's fun to draw parallels between them

The layout before PNR and death looks like Wasteland

During the ascent, a lot of the places look like Valley and even the Valley races

Then you have jellyfish similar to the ones seen in Forest

The door to the second area of Eden – with the krill and rocks – is the Isle door

And I find those parallels really interesting

[real latch]

It is autum here

[upbeat rampart]

I always found the area while ascending being like Valley or when Valley probably had Jellyfish to run around and do sports (or the area being what it was when there was an area between Valley and Wasteland before Wasteland fell)

They probably also used Mantas which are gone out of there mostly for some reason, at least in most parts in Valley

(Also the door out of Orbit seems similar to Isle start door!)

[nocturne rampart]

why does the isle of dawn gate ring on the hour?

[hushed steeple]

To be annoying

But I'm sure there's a connection between Isle and Eden; I'm just not sure what

[high bison]

Isle is the beginning, Eden is the end :3

[undone harbor]

Ahaha whoops the castle broke

[modern cedar]

ok so i think wht im trying to ask is. is starting in isle a thing because of game design (start at easy, move to hard)
without game-canon in mind would it be possible for skids to be born elsewhere or would it still be only isle

ig i just like the idea of a skykid being aple to mistakenly fall into the wrong realm and be 'born' there
or maybe they can, but they wont awaken

[nimble ingot]

There has been one other case where the skykid would eb reborn outside of home.

When you complete the final quest for theblittle prince, you will be reborn in the starry desert.
One can assune it is for the sake of convenience, though I want to believe there is something else at play here.
If anything, what if while the skykid led the little prince throigh the portal, the held on long enough to chabge their rebirth location to starry desert before the little prince when to his home.
If the story of the little prince could be used literally, his planet would be in the visible in the sky of starry desert (as in it is one of the many stars there, not the actual spec of asteroid B-612.

[hushed steeple]

Well, normally we can only see the brightest stars and planets.

The Little Prince's asteroid is too small to be visible in the Desert. Even if you account for the fact that there is little to no light pollution.

I think the place of rebirth is a matter of convenience.

[sullen axle]

Little prince area makes no sense
First of all, as we go further in sky kingdom, we get closer and closer to the eden mountain. And when you reach edens entrance and look back (the door you got out to enter eden) you will see there is the top of a building, which is vault. I think vault is a, kind of elevator that goes way up to eden. Which explains why vault doesn’t have a view of eden
The entrance of little prince area is right at the beginning of vault, there is a corridor, and in the starlight desert there is the view of the eden. But its so weird, like, that corridor is not long enough to go that much far away.

[icy spruce]

Well, there’s the Bault is a dream/hallucination theory and it says ‘Where dream-like worlds collide’ or smthng along the lines so uhh

[sullen axle]

Oo
I thought that was only applied to vault mantas bruhhhh thats some cool lore

[icy spruce]

Yeeeee, and in concept arts the lanterns we see in Bault are projection lanterns

[hushed steeple]

why is they leg cut off

[heady sequoia]

Legs are temporary defying laws of gravity is eternal....?

[hushed steeple]

Can someone explain to me what megabird is? Or refer me to a pinned message explaining this

[heady sequoia]

AAAAAAA

// photo not mine

[hushed steeple]

[nimble ingot]

They are ghosts, so there was an idea of making legless ghosts since they can float.

[barren bloom]

It's like... All living beings in Sky are parts and come from megabird; and they unite back with, or as megabird when they dead, kind of...

Sounds like The Atman concept in Hinduism to me. All creatures come from the creator, has part of the creator, and will unite back with the creator.

[hushed steeple]

Mhmm I see, would explain the whole concept of flight and everything in between. Thank you

[true grove]

The leg isn't cut off they are ghosts its the early concept for spirit memories.

👻

[solar gulch]

I advice you to see this site, if you haven't.
There are concept arts of Megabird too.
https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1

[nimble ingot]

ah, the christian version of the humble angel, but the biblically accurate description of one the types of angels (there are still normal looking angels included in the hierarchy, dont worry).
I think that is an ophanim, also known as wheels.

[hushed steeple]

First time I visited that area, the structure reminded me of a gyroscope…

do the elders regret on what happened to eden king

[nimble ingot]

possibly

[final bobcat]

hold up who’s the eden king? also how did all the spirits die? did they die at the same time?

[cinder flax]

All spirits are dead, and the eden king is sometimes presumed to be the Sky Prince, the golden child in thr Prophecy cave murals. The Eden King was ruler over all of sky

[brisk ore]

Does anyone know what is this thing

[wanton nest]

Oh think that’s a miscolorered spirit manta

[heady sequoia]

miscolored spirit manta, the elder one

[hushed steeple]

My headcanon is that that's what the krill looked like before it was corrupted

[brisk ore]

if it's the miscolored spirit manta is it shy to show itself or tgc just hide it?

Is it dangerous to go near it ?

[wanton nest]

Only one way to find out :)

[brisk ore]

should I go and try to get closer for it for science

[rigid mural]

YES i cried at the little tunnel reminescent if the sliding race, the architecture for valley, golden wastes and Eden is pretty homogeneous too...
The towers crumbling around you,,, 🥺 😭 😭
Priceless relics of the past, spinning endlessly in raging storms. I'd totally do an excursion here to uncover secrets while fighting against the howling winds.

But yeah, back to lore, as a moth I felt like it symbolized that, as much as you can hold onto the remains of a fallen civilization, the past will never truly come back. You can't bring the ancestors back to life, only ensure they are not fossilizing in their own corpse any longer, and you don't have the means to restore the towns and cities exactly to what they were before. You can only move on and try not to repeat the mistakes of those that came before you.

[median topaz]

i love those bits of characterization they're posting for the flight spirits

[half shadow]

Me too! I feel like they’re really leaning into the characters this time around

[nimble ingot]

That is another cosmic whale, the same kind of creature as the one on that floor.

You need to go OOB to reach it.

[half shadow]

The cosmic whale always reminded me of marine flatworms!

[hushed steeple]

Hello can I have a smol summary from the lore from sky? I'm new to understand it can be short doesn't have to be big!

[half shadow]

Check out the pins for the lore documents! It’s a comprehensive summary of the canon lore we know and another that’s dedicated to theories

[hushed steeple]

Canon Sky Lore

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/mobilebasic

This should go over most of it

[hushed steeple]

I’ll look into that!

So I was looking at concept art and the king maybe could have put himself inside a diamond before he became corrupt

Also corrupt descendants Kinda look like the statues in Eden

I mean this was concept art so it could be possible that Eden’s statues are corrupted

[nimble ingot]

true. These were part of the development of the game. So a lot has happened between then and now.
Hopefully the game would elaborate more on that in the future. Since some of the concept art does show that the devs might use them in the future.

[nimble crater]

What if the diamond is the result of his corruption

[half shadow]

I feel like the diamonds and the corruption are inherently linked, I get serious vibes akin to the King/Ancestors reaching too far to gain knowledge and power not meant for them through the power of the diamonds

in the concept art it says that Dark Stone “grants the Acenstors technology power but is also the source of their corruption.” Even though that’s just concept art I still feel like that idea had carried on through to the game.

[brisk ore]

I have a theory where the king tried to do something with dark magic but ending up getting out of control making the sky world into corruption

[hushed steeple]

Would anyone like to look at the lotus boat fanart I posted?

[upbeat rampart]

I theorise his neutral side stays in diamond, this could add on it!

[upbeat rampart]

It's beautiful :O

[upbeat rampart]

The Eden there seemed to be a representative of Eden instead of actually be Eden itself, like a fictional representation of his death area.

[upbeat rampart]

Headcanon but they're now fading off of the Sky world, probably relived, moving into orbit, but coming down to meet you.

Either in the halfway coming down or halfway going up but that's what I interpreted of it lol

[half shadow]

Yeah I feel you too, the spirits are probably only still in the world for gameplay reasons. Logically they’re probably ascended into orbit and perhaps have left a bit of their spirit behind as like, an echo or something that skykids are able to still interact with.

[upbeat rampart]

True...something like a husk of who they were, if you will

I don't think it's anything for lore, I interpreted that as a gameplay reason really

[hushed steeple]

Now that I think about it everyone is dead “-“

Also this is interesting because somehow we’re hybrids

[half shadow]

That’s from concept art that’s not necessarily canon anymore, but yeah. It does seem to imply that Skykids are a sort of balanced joining of light and possibly darkness/dark stone right in the middle

[hushed steeple]

Yup it’s just so weird to me like how it could of all happened

[nimble ingot]

while that is true to concept art that does not make it to the game, or got changed in the mean time.
Some of them can still have validity because some of the concept art might be used in the future of the game.

[half shadow]

Yeah that’s what I’m betting on too Raider

[scenic siren]

Random thoughts about the statues
(Lots of text, sorry bad English)

Every time in the occasional rock zone, my friend always say "How did these kids die at safe zone like this? They go by group and there is even a lamp". Until yesterday I figured something out.

Statues in Eden stay there until someone give winged light to them.
Of course for gameplay seek, we will get reborn immediately. Imagine travelling spirit gonna leave in a few hours, you run out of AC, and need to speed run Eden, but you statue stay somewhere unoticed, between hundreds of other sky kids statues (looking at how big the mountain is from far away, Eden must be actually bigger than the map we play, and more statues)
And then you get reborn you realize 2 seasons already passed.

So if I were a sky kid, when about half of my winged light gone, I will turn back, and try to die somewhere near the entrance, near lamp, so even moths can give light to me. Maybe try to strike some fancy pose to get noticed! The ones die too far away can only be saved by few strongest kids, and take much longer to reborn.

Story-wise, maybe there is no travelling spirits, but the statues in Eden may not stay forever. Statues we lit still have a bit of light left in their cracks. But if they stay there too long, with all the darkness around, they may have nothing left but the empty shell. So the farer a kid die, higher chance they can never be reborn again.

[nimble ingot]

Here is proof why I can say that some of the concept art can be used in later updates.
The elder manta in this art (April 2017) was added in the season of Sanctuary (July 2020).

[cursive galleon]

Hello everyone I exist again. Anyway time for some color theory concerns!

Why are most of the candles around Sky red? The only things that are red are your candles and hostile darkness. Neither have good implications just stranded around the realms.

[nimble ingot]

That is a good point. I am not sure why it is like that.

[idle rune]

Anyone know what this means? Idk if this is the appropriate channel for this but i keep seeing it and wondering why its there 😭

[wanton nest]

That’s exactly what I think happened in Eden

I feel like the Eye of Eden is itself the diamond. The king and people tried to use its power as a power diamond to collect more light, or maybe even lift them up to the spirits in the sky/Light/Megabird. It was sucking up all the light in the region, and started tearing the mountain apart

[hushed steeple]

I think it summoned an old spirit I’m not entirely sure tho
||pls correct me if I’m wrong||

[idle rune]

Omgg thats so coolll thank u sm!!

[rigid mural]

Eel constellation from light awaits ! There's a turtle one in the village and a sparrow one in the bird nest too.

[half shadow]

Red has a lot of different meanings in other cultures! In China it means luck and joyfulness, and in Japan it means peace and is often used to ward off evil spirits.

And in India, specifically Hindu culture, red can mean like innocence and purity. Babies are given red marks on their forehead when they’re born or during festivals.

[nimble ingot]

That used to be an old quest during the beta of the game.
The quest was an early version of a spirit memory, but instead of a the ancestor spirit, that one would give you a spectral eel.

There are 2 other stones like that one in Daylight Prairie. The one in the village area would have given you a sea turtle and the other in bird nest gives you a bird.
@hushed steeple was on the right track.
@rigid mural is correct.

[half shadow]

I think that because Sky so obviously takes after a lot of different cultures, among them being Hinduism and Bhuddism, so it makes sense that the aesthetics would call upon those meanings.

[idle rune]

I seee thats so cool!! Thank u so much, i love thatt
@nimble ingot
@rigid mural

[rigid mural]

The red of the crystals are probably meant to fit with the overall scheme of Eden while standing out; it is wierd it doesn't fit the warm tones=safe and cold tones=danger thing, but maybe it's meant to trick the player.

Though when you lose energy, the cape indicator gets red as it lowers, so perhaps it's that.

[half shadow]

I think it depends on the context. Red as a color can mean a lot of things, it’s really versatile. It’s associated with the candle cakes, but also with the krill. It’s associated with light, but also with the crystals in Eden. I think that the concept here is that it doesn’t have one distinct meaning, rather, it’s interpreted different depending on the environment that surrounds it.

[hushed steeple]

The thing is they used visual language for concepts than then got cut, but the visual language is still there.

So I still think skykids are like an hybrid of all that came before and that the society forgot mega. I don’t think skykids are half dark though. Only part ancestor and Elder, who have similar dark glowy colorings

[worn forge]

Everyone, I have an idea for some Halloween Sky lore.

[steel wigeon]

"former apprentice of daylight praire elder" I love this ultimate spirit so much

[sly lake]

https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1444097296732278786 Lore chat! Flight Questgiver spirit lore just dropped!

[worn forge]

How about there should be a graveyard. Hear me out.

[steel wigeon]

I wonder what all they know
Considering the 'apprentice' part

[worn forge]

I am trying to find its location.

[regal phoenix]

APPARENTLY ELDERS CAN HAVE APPRENTICES

[nimble ingot]

that is the new season area

[agile vector]

BRUH, just read the news! Elders can have apprentices!!!!!’

[worn forge]

Sigh, I’ll try on my own.

[regal phoenix]

I will now make a million elder apprentice ocs :)

[nimble ingot]

what!??

[rigid mural]

ELDER APPRENTICES ???

[regal phoenix]

theory : prophecy were all collectively isle elder's apprentices ( or perhaps only the trial leaders or whatever they're called )

[worn forge]

I wouldn’t doubt now that the elders have apprentices .

[regal phoenix]

leaks(idk if they're allowed here) ||but apparently we'll get a valley season yet imagine chaotic valley apprentices||

[rigid mural]

We do see the elders with smaller spirits in the Vault cutscene so... questgiver could be one of the ones we see of the Prairie constellation !

[agile vector]

Yo, now I’m excited

[worn forge]

Me too.

[regal phoenix]

apprentices : exist
Lore chat : I HAVE BEEN FED

[rustic nacelle]

this is a good day for the lore community

[regal phoenix]

imagine if elders aren't always elder but it's kinda secretive that they aren't always seeing as the general populace seems to see them as gods imagine if flight qg was next in line to be prairie elder

[neat flint]

Actually this week is a good week for lore seekers

[sour stream]

I was just about to say that LOL

[rigid mural]

We're like pigeons and TGC threw crumbs

[rustic nacelle]

oh no, you’re giving me ideas to draw

[regal phoenix]

If I could draw rn i'd draw flight qg but elder sized and more grand

[rose gorge]

!!!!!!! elder apprentices omg !!!!!!!

[hoary violet]

opening the lore channel after the new announcement

[worn forge]

The hype is here and it’s staying.

[sly lake]

That sounds really cool! What height do you think they would be?

[regal phoenix]

i'm imagining forest mom body type but more fit for adventure

[worn forge]

Hmmm, I am recalling the lamp that you measure your height with.
Go by that but that’s just my guess.

[harsh lake]

I never talk here but, I’ve literally been imagining the Elders having apprentices for so long and seeing the flight guide post brought me instant joy

[regal phoenix]

i'm excited to be a bird

I wonder if there's some condition to being an elders apprentice? are you like chosen at birth as some sort of destiny or something else like general skill?

[worn forge]

The apprentice’s hair reminds me of another spirit’s hair.
Which one, though. Can’t put me finger on it.

[sly lake]

In game its a vault spirits hair, if you're asking for the specific hair used.

[regal phoenix]

levitating adept ( that's the hair they use I believe )

[worn forge]

Yeah, I believe it’s that. Thanks.
Wish I had that hair style.

[hushed steeple]

Lore nugget tastyyy

[rigid mural]

5 hearts

[worn forge]

I don’t have enough. Me broke.

[primal hornet]

ohno, "former apprentice" ohnoohno this chat might go crazy

[regal phoenix]

neat thing i've noticed, compared to the other flight spirits flight qg has celestial like hands? could this be a affect of being an apprentice / was an apprentice

[rigid mural]

All spirits have that starry skin

[feral radish]

So like,,,,, how to become an apprentice of an Elder? I think the elders would do is to call a prophet (either any of the elemental prophets), and ask them if they would have an apprentice in the near future before "the disaster"

[worn forge]

I like the birds.

[regal phoenix]

ohh i've never noticed thank

[feral radish]

So that the apprentice would continue their work as an Elder if they somehow pass away?

[regal phoenix]

we don't really know if elder's are actually gods or false gods yet tbh

[feral radish]

The biggest god of them all is The King I believe-

[hushed steeple]

I consider them like demi gods. Fell to ‘earth’ and have some powers, showing ancestors how to do things and getting praise. But still have someone who created them. Even King.

Elders having students of their own....is really fascinating. I wonder if all guides had some tie to elders. Odd Flight seems to be starting as a forest season, when the guide is a student of Ayin. granted I don’t think a random child making a tree fort and an actual flower count for being diligent students.

[regal phoenix]

prophecy leaders and qg seems to make most sense as another apprentice thingy

[neat flint]

Theory: Seasonal Guides' job is to help Elders taking care of a small area of their realms

[half shadow]

OHHHHH an apprentice!! I think this leads into the idea that the Elders weren’t strictly all-powerful godlike entities, but are able to have relationships and interact with the Ancestors on a personal level. The Prairie Elder has good vibes especially. I feel like it’s akin to a demigod-like role like Kamilico said.

[sly lake]

Chimesmith, navigator, and builder have it too! It's a spirit thing.

[regal phoenix]

qgs ( minielders )

[half shadow]

That’s one little detail that shows up in official art but is hard to tell ingame.

[sly lake]

When you're dead in the Sky world, you sparkle.

[hushed steeple]

The stars on the in game spirits move across their models when the camera moves like the clothing in Chowder

[neat flint]

Well it starts at the social area so I'd considered it as between Forest and Prairie

It's also near the temple too

[hushed steeple]

Its between forest hub and forest in my books

[sly lake]

Hidden Prairie, or Frairie, you could say.

[clear glacier]

bursts in
HAHA MY THEORY THAT ELDERS HAD APPRENTICES IS TRUE

[hushed steeple]

Looking at her again the clothes are kinda elder-y

[opal briar]

So are skykids eyes open with a mask on and if so ,why

[regal phoenix]

if valley elder had an apprentice they'd have the twos hair combined and they'd see the valley elders as their idol

[nimble ingot]

(Joking here)
It would be a priest that looks similar to the geographer with his hat, and would be like the referee that cannot keep up with the twins

[opal briar]

But were the current elders ever apprentices?

[sly lake]

The patterned front of the Flight Questgivers outfit looks like the front design of Prairie Elders outfit!

[hushed steeple]

Being an apprentice of Prairie....maybe of farming?

Elders came from orbit....fell from the big ol birdnest in the sky.

Most elders have a white stripe down their chest though. Yep.

[opal briar]

How long has the cycle of elders and apprentice Been going on ..spirts age?

[regal phoenix]

if you count animal breeding/keeping a type of farming possibly ( flight does seem to have alot of relations to light creatures )

[opal briar]

So we kinda know the origin of elders

[hushed steeple]

That makes sense! Since shes running the operations, and it seems to all be about helping, calling and leading light critters.

[regal phoenix]

know how prairie elder has a butterfly supply another thing to add is flight could also be the ones breeding so many butterfly

[hushed steeple]

But he can make them just by smooshing.

[regal phoenix]

wait he can

[hushed steeple]

In his cutscene he takes the flame in his hand. Does some smoosh magic, and presto! A butterfly!

[regal phoenix]

" ☁️ Has a better vision of a more harmonious life " also this part adds to my thought that early forest/prairie areas tried to stay out of the whole war thing or kings diamond stuff

[hushed steeple]

Thats such a vague and wispy statement. OooOoo~ a harmonious life~ so I like your explanation better.

[clear glacier]

And thus a paradise retreat in the clouds for like the fallen wariors?

[cinder flax]

The apprentice stuff reminds me of the talk a bit ago about public representatives for the Elders.

[half shadow]

Prairie seems to be involved with the creation of the light creatures, as evidenced with the butterfly jars. They seem to be able to manifest them, so perhaps an Apprentice would learn to do same as well as learn how to tend to them properly. They’re clearly not like real wildlife as they’re made out of light, so I think this makes sense

[rigid mural]

Sounds like a character from pokemon black&white tbh 😂

[cinder flax]

Those who have masks similar/exactly alike the elders were their apprentices maybe?

[hushed steeple]

Maybe trying to set up conditions perfectly to create more light creatures?

[regal phoenix]

OOOOOO BRAIN MOMENT : Perhaps 'former' apprentice could be because flight qg and prairie elder were first all for protecting light creatures but then prairie gave into the kings orders to give light creatures to forest to be used to be sucked of their light so perhaps flight qg not agreeing with this took her people to a new land?? ( sorry if this is messy i'm not good at making things sound good )

[opal briar]

Season of animal reserve

[hushed steeple]

Season of animal reserve 2

[sage lava]

Is it? TGC really gave us a real lore???

[regal phoenix]

they're like " should we stop bullying lore chat with interpretation lore and give them canon lore, WHY NOT LMAO "

[hushed steeple]

For ages devs had to swoop in at times im not on and vaguely hint they have come up with details for the spirits. Is Yeti really a retired axe juggler? The world may never knoooowww~ but coming up with facts without a way to show em off was.....well kinda vicious!

[half shadow]

I have a hunch this is gonna be a more kore heavy season

[neat flint]

Reason of migration?

[sage lava]

"That was all I wanted - Viserys Targaryen"

Now, looking coolly at the Tinkering Chimesmith lore, is this the reason there are bells in the sanctuary? To tune with the Mantas.

[neat flint]

L o r e

[hushed steeple]

TLP said as much “these must be for the creatures, only children would know that” -said about bells made by adult spirits that knew how to summon creatures.

[regal phoenix]

me drinking my lore smoothie :

[final bobcat]

APPRENTICE??? TO AN ELDER?!!

[regal phoenix]

prairie : tale of two sides of the same coin ngl

[harsh pecan]

:0

[clear glacier]

Now then, if we follow the logic that the seasonal guides were apprentices, who do you think the others were apprenticed to?

[regal phoenix]

prophecy people = isle apprentices

[neat flint]

Enchantment-Vault
Prophecy-Isle
Lightseekers-Forest
Rhythm-Valley
Dreams-Valley

[clear glacier]

Rhythm and Dreams would definitely be valley people

[sage lava]

Thinking about it is interesting, but I don't see how it can be applied to all guides. For example, the dream guide was just a regular mother trying to fulfill her child's dream.

[hushed steeple]

Mr Anubis to Daleth is the first to mind. Belonging granny was a long time friend to Teth. Knew her when she was little too. Assembly guide is just a kid Forest looks out for. Dreams mum studied under the twins before becoming a mum. That makes her also a retired mentor. Enchantment was just Tsadi’s favorite vender salesman.

[clear glacier]

Perhaps she used to be the apprentice but then gave up to start a loving family? Then owl snagged the position sgdfhgsdf

[hushed steeple]

Rose was Lamed’s favorite table centerpiece >:)

[sage lava]

So we can assume the elders could walk among the others beings (Inhabitants of Sky)?

[regal phoenix]

Did you know Lamed's favorite snack to give to skids is rose petal chips?

[neat flint]

The little prince:

[regal phoenix]

the little taco

[hushed steeple]

“Here little darlings, have some rose petal tea!”
“ohdearpleasesaveme”

[clear glacier]

I see Season of Dreams as a means of sacrificing your own dreams to help another so Dreams guide being a retired apprentice makes sense

[neat flint]

That just makes it more meaningful 😭

[regal phoenix]

lamed forcefully making tlp drink rose tea

[sage lava]

I wish TGC could make the cards of past season spirits too, just for fun ( ；∀；)

[hushed steeple]

Then we can finally know if Yeti really is a retired axe juggler.....

[raw crypt]

i cant believe ive never talked here before (well actually yes i can im shy abt my ideas) but flights card is making me think so hard

[hushed steeple]

I have a slight feeling some of the early season spirits are....well. Not much more than they appear.

Thinking of Sassy drifters memory.....shes walking......and shes walking and.....shes not walking anymore. And done.

[regal phoenix]

do we have an explanation for why isle went from a grassy place to a sand desert like place

[hushed steeple]

woah sky discord icon changed to flight guide

[sage lava]

They were a apple stealer that took a moment to rethink their attitudes (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞

[thin dirge]

Ooh, Season of Flight Guide is the former apprentice of the Prairie Elder? Thats some big lore dump right there

[neat flint]

[thin dirge]

In beta, Eden was actually blue, matching with the color tone of blue=lack of light or loss of light. However, this became too misleading for players because a lot ended up thinking it was a safe zone rather than it being dangerous or risky. (or at least, it didn't give the "DANGER!" vibe it was supposed to give off) So the colors of Eden got changed to red

[raw crypt]

honestly the

Has a better vision of a more harmonious life

note has me looking so hard, because a bit back i analyzed seasons and their main colours and noted the use of blue and yellow dominating flights palette, specifically lighter blues (not darkstone blue), it’s a mix of technology/ambition (blue) and nature/community (yellow), they tend to have a pretty harmonious mix of the two colours, mixing the civilizations growing tech and creatures well.

But the note implies the questgiver strives for even more harmony, they believe they have a better idea, but they dont state whos vision they have a better one of, prairie elder? Eden elder? Is this why they are a former apprentice? Feeling that the harmony will be disrupted if we lean too far into technology (which is what happens seeing darkstone)?

the beef...

[rigid mural]

Beef ?

[thin dirge]

Hmm, maybe I should lurk a bit more often. I still remember a lot of the lore tidbits that newer ppl didn't seem to know. (Oh yeah, my pinged comment is above Slink's one)

[raw crypt]

BEEF. like contradicting viewpoints especially with the whole. light creatures being used as power thing that happens at one point

IDK HOW TO EXPLAIN sorry this is why im not here often HFBFBBF

[thin dirge]

Yeah, don't worry, I knew it was an expression, lol

[raw crypt]

HHDHFH
im jusy so interested and wonder if the quests will have lore, im so excited

[thin dirge]

Im just surprised they gave this big lore tidbit about the QG tho

[raw crypt]

YEA
we are getting fed today..

[high bison]

“OMG WOW SO MUCH LORE”
The lore: Talented Builder is a great hugger

[half shadow]

We are STARVING FOR CRUMBS

[hushed steeple]

Builder being a shipwright family (thus maybe being related to slumber) and whats his face being a sailor are cool. But anything to do with elders we starve for. This may be a only a crumb. But its an ELDER CRUMB.

[oak axle]

“Oh… that’s…. That’s the lore-“

Flight QG: Daylight Prairie Elder’s Former Apprentice

“EXCUSE ME???? ”

[oak axle]

I feel like Talented Builder is related to the Enchantment Ark….

[hushed steeple]

Forgotten ark gang, I took to be mostly merchants. But at least one to be a shipwight, make sense. Its just how they used the exact word shipwright that I feel connects slumbering too.

[oak axle]

With my theory that Seasons connect to the timeline of the Sky realms, Season of Flight is placed before Enchantment, I can tell (and is part of the Silent Era)

[high bison]

Anyone know why the Isle is so full of nothing?

[harsh pecan]

The Rhythm spirits just walk too

[raw crypt]

i have ideas on the gratitude group but for rhythm theyre just. theyre just having a good time

[harsh pecan]

Ye

[harsh pecan]

I thought of something similiar but your analysis is just- wow

[raw crypt]

WAA TY! id love to hear ur thoughts too!

[high bison]

My theory was that the Isle was the settlement of the ancestors before they established the sky Kingdom. Once they harnessed the light and left for the clouds, the Isle was left behind

But I wanna here your thoughts
||(also there’s probably something in the established lore documents I haven’t read )||

[harsh pecan]

Nice theory!

[harsh pecan]

Personally I think it became what it is now after the fall of the kingdom

[high bison]

But if there were buildings, they’ve all eroded away…
Why weren’t the other parts of the kingdom subjected to that kind of erosion?

[harsh pecan]

True, but if you watch the trailer you can see that the ‘buildings’ were tents so it makes sense that they’re gone now, unlike the buildings in other realms which are made from idk

[high bison]

WHAT THE?!?!
I need to watch the switch trailer

UNCORRUPTED KRILL HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS

Dude I got that lore buzz now

[hybrid kestrel]

does anyone have like, a pdf or a book or any text of sky's creatures and their lore?
if it even exists

[thin dirge]

Oh, there was a time lore chat just decided to make up scientific names for all the sky creatures for fun

I didn't participate on that, so I dont remember if they kept a doc or something

[livid valley]

I participate in it and we did keep a doc though it's been long enough I didn't save it

[hybrid kestrel]

oh lol

[gilded spoke]

If flight guide is the apprentice of prairie elder, does that mean Mr Rhythm is Valley’s apprentice????

[swift plaza]

Not related to the lore but oh my god Discord's pfp looks so ethereal ahh I'm stanning Flight Quest Guider

[icy spruce]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YwQ4EKsPLyhk9VN5hw43XqFX-7xTdoBE0nGGCnn51L4/edit

Sky animals theories

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Iz8D_RX3DFQ_fI07ZmjM6eFCWR-0ELhOC2nUKBdYAqg/edit

FAN scientific names

[high bison]

Probably not…
The Valley Eldars are athletes, the Rhythm guide is a performer/director/not to sure he’s definitely not an athlete

[gilded spoke]

Flight guide doesn't store butterflies either

[high bison]

Well we don’t know what the flight guide did

[harsh pecan]

We can wait a few days to find out

[hushed steeple]

[[big shot]]

[hushed steeple]

WoW !!

[jaunty tapir]

Is it really an uncorrupted krill???? it does have that "light" though!

Also speaking of switch trailer, the child there looks like the "point" spirit in isle! He was pointing in the trailer too haha so cute

[high bison]

Maybe it’s the point spirit as a child

And yes it is an uncorrupted krill and I want it

But what would we call it… ‘Dragon’ sounds too impressive…
Hmm
Well from a certain angle it Kinda looks like a wha-
DOLPHIN
IT’S A DOLPHIN AND I WANT IT

[hushed steeple]

I'm sorry but I love the way this is worded

…So a krill is a corrupted dolphin?

[hushed steeple]

Hey, lore chat?

So I actually came here for research regarding a fanfic I'm writing. The fanfic is basically my interpretation of the lore we see in-game and stuff that's confirmed canon. There have been many amazing conversations and I've learned a lot.

Now I'm worried that when I go back to my draft, I might accidentally end up using someone else's interpretation and that might count as plagiarism. I want to write my story from a moth's perspective – I want to avoid going deeper than what can be seen in-game so that a reader might relate to it.

I guess what I'm getting at is…would anyone like to help? Like beta-read or something?

[real stratus]

do we know of other spirits who are "apprentices" of the elders?

[true grove]

Nope

[rigid mural]

The lore as we know is crumbs and a bunch of interpretations in a trench coat, if I were you I wouldn't worry about plagiarism since what we do here is offer a theory and tweak them a bit.

But I'm interested in reading what you got
I myself am planning a story about a guild of skyfolks exploring the realms in search of lore in the near future where the realms are restored enough to be even more alive... might have extended the area elders can influence

[obsidian cloak]

who's Karen the Krill?

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, so that's why I'm writing a story based on my own interpretation. If I went to incorporate everything, it would be absolute chaos

[wanton nest]

👁👁

[wanton nest]

:DDDDDDDD

[nimble ingot]

sure thing.
If you are worried about plagiarism, you can make notes of where you get the material and who to give credit to.
Other than that, you can also say your fanfic is based on the theories of other people.

[thick plaza]

Yea who is Karen the Krill?

[nimble ingot]

personally the one above the tunnel in Eden is much like a Karen. Always wants to see the person in charge, does not care while cutting the line and would kids that dare breath in their presence.

[livid valley]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Iz8D_RX3DFQ_fI07ZmjM6eFCWR-0ELhOC2nUKBdYAqg/edit?usp=sharing oh well i found it read as you want im the Bates guy if ur wondering

(the scientific names of creatures blah blah time really have passed)

[rigid mural]

I like to think the candles we give ancestor spirits represent time spent talking to them since we use our currency candles to activate benches outside that context.

The hearts are probably more akin to real gifts since we give them without any other intent but to make a gift in their intended use.

[fading tapir]

Hello, i would just like to ask if there are any season of prophecy lore ideas with the drawings on the walls after completing every quest, i have a few ideas but i would like to know if there are any other ideas? (I will try to explain my idea if you want too )

Prophecy drawings idea: From what i could infer the 4 elements of the season (air, water, fire, earth) original came from isle where the cave is, and the isle of dawn elder gave it to 4 other elder, prairie had earth, forest had water, valley had air, and wasteland had fire. This may be why each of the realms have something specific to do with the element (I got this information when you could see the 4 elders get each 4 different colours representing the elements). It seems from the drawings that the vault elder wanted to ascended in a way as seen the elder and some people going up a mountain (this could show that they were looking for something else that was higher but had to stop as the reached the ||beginning of eden||. (Just an idea and too bad i could not get the photos from the cave, i will probably come back with the screenshot)(Sorry is you already knew about this )

[hushed steeple]

@nimble ingot @rigid mural
Thank you guys! I'm actually not too far into my story yet because I don't get a lot of free time.

Are your DMs open? Can I send you a doc separately when I get a substantial part of it done?

[nimble ingot]

you can whenever you are ready.

[rigid mural]

Of course ! looking forward to it

[stark cedar]

Hi. I have a question about The Office / Secret Area

[nimble ingot]

Go ahead :)

[stark cedar]

As you know, there is the toilet inside the office, and next to it there's a big dark cloudy mass. What happens if you interact with it?

Does anyone know?

[icy spruce]

Wait, can u pls send the pic because I never visit office

[stark cedar]

I'm not in the office anymore

[naive star]

it's related to days of mischief, which starts on the 18th

[stark cedar]

What happens if I interact with it? I know that the days of mischief is in about 2 weeks...

[icy spruce]

Idk, interact with it

[hushed steeple]

Dint they mistakenly put the portal there pre maturely?

[stark cedar]

Too scared to do it

[nimble ingot]

oh...
That is a suprise by the upcoming event.

I cannot say what happens when you step into it, because the days of mischief event has not started yet.

[icy spruce]

Prolly accidentally put a portal there like how KTJN is in home

[nimble ingot]

yup.
Some of the staff in the game might have gotten overexcited, lol.

[stark cedar]

I wanted to see if I die or lose winged light if I interact with it and I am not brave enough to do it...

[nimble ingot]

Do it.
Do it for science!

[stark cedar]

Too scared...

[icy spruce]

How many WLs u have

Enough to not loose a wing, go there for lore

[stark cedar]

127...
But I'm not brave to interact with that thing. I should rest...

[icy spruce]

That’s enough to not loose ur 10 wings, go

[hybrid kestrel]

Yooooooooo thanks

[icy spruce]

Np

[swift plaza]

I got a clear shot of it but I screen recorded the whole thing so sorry for the low quality

I thought its a dormant krill since they told me you can activate a hidden krill under the toilet. Tho my good friend Foxalyne explained it's a portal for the upcoming Days of Mischief

[pure plaza]

I’ve long thought this sacrificial bird was interesting, and was thinking that perhaps it represents all of us Skykids. During the Isle of Dawn Elder cutscene, the Elder seems to guide a flock of birds into the sky towards Eden, just as the Elders guide us to Eden where we are sacrificed to return the fallen stars to the sky.

In which case, it’s an ominous piece of foreshadowing to those who are on their first run through the world of Sky.

[thorn flame]

ded borb lore

[lament marsh]

how do sky kids see under their masks?? if their eyes are closed--

[nimble ingot]

Their eyes are normally open. Maskless skykids may have their eyes closed, though that might be for the sake of the cosmetic in the game, because if their eyes are open, you see to glowing eye dots on a darkened face.

[lament marsh]

AND WAS THIS THE ISLE OF DAWN BEFORE?????

[lament marsh]

oh alr!

[nimble ingot]

Just a random thought.
What if the flying creature is a variant of the bird creature from season of Rhythm?
Even though the heads are different, it could have been placed on the creature's head that can act as a bridle and blinder.
Still not too sure about that idea though.

[rigid mural]

for the love of megabird, please don't open the second spoiler, future reader. That's some pretty big one.

AZTA, the content you're talking about is still exclusive to Beta since the season isn't even out in live...

[subtle rock]

Wait where foes that ship bird come from

[rigid mural]

Season of Rythm ending cutscene !

what are they doing in the valley oob lmaooo

[nimble ingot]

This was from Season of Rhythm.
The final cutscene of the season shows this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rozpvn71g7Y

[lament marsh]

I have big question

where all spirits living?
but they all died because of eden ?

or just died

[nimble ingot]

If the quest giver of season of flight could be an apprentice of Daylight Prairie.
Would it be out of the question for the Quest giver of Season of Rhythm to be an apprentice of Vault?
The song the plays with the quest giver going through the portal is similar to the music playing with the vault elder.

[nimble ingot]

Not sure, all the spirits are dead though. They are very likely to be ghosts that have not passed on until the skykid helps them.
It is also uncertain how they died. It could be form a cataclysmic event (explosion), or an illness brought on by the corrupting darkness.

[rigid mural]

Why vault ? Their shtick is being a performer, fits much more with valley imo. I feel like associating them with vault just based off the sound is a bit of a stretch 😅

[pale egret]

Question, are we actually sure the spirits ever lived?

[nimble ingot]

Very likely.
They had lives, professions, family and friends.
They did live in buildings, rode on boats, had food and drinks.
They used to pray at the temples.

There are plentyvof sings that they used to live in the world. Though now, all that we see of them are the things theyvleft behind, their memories and their spectral forms.

[pale egret]

I guess I formulated my question wrongly, I agree that someone lived and left the spirits behind. But how sure are we that the spirits are the direct leftovers of those beings (and were not, for example, created by whoever that was and that someone died out)? Maybe to explain a bit what I mean, the way I understood things in here there's the theory we were created by some kind of mega bird, what if for example it made the spirits to educate us?

Sorry if I come up with questions that have long been decided...

[rigid mural]

You see depictions of the spirits drawn on walls; i'd be against your theory by saying they wouldn't bother doing that if their sole purpose was to teach us skykids emotes, but one could always argue back that megabird could have made them do that to make them seem more natural...

[trail oyster]

yalls and so it turns out daylight prarie elder my man does have apprentices i wonder who else is an apprentice

[pale egret]

Thank you! I'll stick with my theory that the spirits we see are left behind for teaching us about the history of us and similar things, I think... I mainly chose the mega bird (by the way, is it a big bird like the one in the announcement for the spirits of flight or in the rhythm cutscene???) because that would make sure the spirits didn't create themselves.

If I ask too obvious things or make too crazy theories, please tell me...

[hushed steeple]

Vault cutscene.

Prairie and Forest elders both have apprentices.

One could also make a case that GW and Vault elders also had apprentices

(In GW elder's case, more like a general and the soldiers under their training)

[nimble ingot]

For Wasteland, I doubt it would be slouching soldier, lol.
right??

[rigid mural]

slouch has depression, leave him alone

[hushed steeple]

They're a traumatized bean
They fought in the war, fermented the Wasteland's dark plants, and got that poison water drink.
Then they made themselves home in the evil prairie temple in Starlight Desert.

[rigid mural]

evil prairie temple

[hushed steeple]

That's what it reminded me of the first time I saw it

[lament marsh]

was the krill acctually a krill before?

And where sky kids just stars before??

[half shadow]

1. Krill are confirmed to be corrupted beings, so likely they didn’t used to be krill.

2. Jury’s still out on that one. The creation of sky kids and what exactly they are is up for debate. We don’t have any clear answer.

[hushed steeple]

I notice that in Eden there are a different shape to the spires? Than in valley. Any ideas?

[rigid mural]

HUH did they change that in the update ? i dont recall that, it was a star shape in my memories...

[hushed steeple]

I think it was like that before. I vaguely remember staring at the top of the spire......and thinking it was nothing special.

[hushed steeple]

I do believe that they changed it when they updated the whole castle to be in shape with the sun dog ( if that makes sense )

[harsh pecan]

Maybe the architecture is just different

[upbeat rampart]

My take:
Red ones are symbolism to blood, and therefore most of the red candles have wax to them.

This was our past skykid giving their wax to almost every red (only red btw) candles so that when they forget their memories and be new to the world once again, they would get their cape filled to some extent, and candles so that they could be with a friend and together can go through the realms.

Not all red candles have wax, mind you, because they probably were losing their memories by then and/or thought it was too risky (like the red candles before you go past the gate in wasteland).

Or it could be that Megabird kept most there for us.

(Also it doesn't hurt much I'd say)

[hushed steeple]

So I just realized that Eden always had that beam of light coming out of the mountain?

Idk if I make sense it’s 12:00 in the morning and haven’t slept yet.
Me needs sneep

[upbeat rampart]

I always thought it was the ascension part.

It's visible from mostly other places too which shows eden

(Also go rest)

[hushed steeple]

So maybe the sky kingdom was the capital of the sky? Hmm
And you could see Eden from all around

[upbeat siren]

He/she/they doesn't/don't need sleep, he/she/they needs/need answers!!

[upbeat rampart]

:0
That actually does make sense!

You see both eden and the beam of light, probably it's that visible and skykids have an idea as to what they're going through

[upbeat rampart]

Sleep = better answers (sometimes)

[hushed steeple]

Now I’m starting to understand the scale of the explosion and how much it wiped out

[upbeat rampart]

I thought the isle cutscene in the beginning was like right after the explosion judging it's state

[upbeat siren]

I think it's also interesting that isle of dawn is the only realm from where you can't see eden

[upbeat rampart]

And Vault until you reach the end

[hushed steeple]

Maybe it’s to keep transportation only to be able to pass through there. And not to be able to go anywhere else. So that it could pass inspection of some sort then go off into the kingdom. Just a thought. 🤔

[upbeat siren]

Well technically you can see eden in vault when you go to the season of.. the little prince section

[upbeat rampart]

Tho do you see it in forest? Not sure of gw because I try to exist there more than see eden

[upbeat rampart]

Ah yes, TLP
You're counting seasons in?

[weary robin]

I’m pretty sure you can see it in the broken boat area if you look past it (not forgotten ark, the other boat)

[errant juniper]

Might just be the heavy rain at forest, you can't see really far when it's raining

[upbeat siren]

No, I said technically.. But I think the placement of the seasons is interesting - vault is most likely in GW and the only part of vault we get to see outside is also in a desert

[neat flint]

Forest is under Prairie so we can't see Eden and Valley is on top of Forest and Wasteland is under Valley

[upbeat siren]

I'm confused now

[upbeat rampart]

Will have to check on it

Also Rue, that is true but before the rain perhaps? Or when it stops at end cutscene

[hushed steeple]

The starlight desert cutscene says “ where dreamlike worlds collide” so that Eden may not be real but only of a dream.

[upbeat rampart]

Forest is over prairie, is it not? We run from Prairie by butterflies and then fly up

[harsh pecan]

Sky geography is confusing-

[neat flint]

We fly up and at social area we go down

[weary robin]

Sky is confusing

[harsh pecan]

If Vault is right beside Eden, and the Starlight Desert is beside Vault, then why is it so far away

[errant juniper]

Ah I see your point
I never really pay attention to it before I just followed the light

[hushed steeple]

Dreamlike state?
||I hate this countdown||

[neat flint]

Vault is the most confusing place

[upbeat rampart]

That eden is probably a symbolism to death of Prince being around rather than actual Eden for me. The quest where he is going there on route there while crying and krill staring at him is symbolism that he's decided to die and the krill finds no light in the Prince--he is just empty, like he has to leave his friend skykid and probably might just never be with his rose.

I went off topic

Baseline: Eden is a representation that he's dying

[upbeat siren]

Wow that's an awesome thought

[upbeat rampart]

Should see though! Thanks for your insight ^^

[errant juniper]

Speaking of confusing vault, is the final area after the cutscene still first floor? Or is it top floor? Did we even go up with the elevator

[weary robin]

Should probably spoiler that in case some people didn’t do the prince quests-

[hushed steeple]

This place is marked as a spoiler, the only thing that shouldn’t be here is beta

Also I think that the vault thing is on the top floor.

[upbeat rampart]

This is the lorechat, it's okay hhh

[weary robin]

O my bad

Imma just leave since I aint got anythin to say other than dumb stuff- see y’all later bye

[upbeat rampart]

Topmost floor, really

We did go up the elevator imo, it's just really dreamlike different, because it's from memories

[hushed steeple]

We start out as low as gw and rise as high as the ground floor of Eden Not sure how the elevator works tho.

Where thatskybruh command for sneep?

[harsh pecan]

Same

[upbeat siren]

What's even the point with the white candles on the pedestals of the elders? Why do they contain different amount of candles? (isle 1, vault 6 I think etc)
And why is the isle elder kinda a outsider? I mean he ain't even on the door to eden

[errant juniper]

Or maybe we did go up, just as the awkward elevator music starts we fall asleep from the long elevator ride and when we woke up we already arrived at the top and missed everything that's actually in between

[hushed steeple]

Time to sneep snorp
Happy lore chatting everyone!
||And happy pride history month||

||you guys are the best <3.||

[errant juniper]

From the old concept art before I think isle elder is retired

[neat flint]

I just noticed that the elevator after the cutscence is smaller than the one before it

[upbeat siren]

Man that games lore is more confusing than darksouls

[neat flint]

I have a theory about Vault now but it's so hard for me to describe

The cooldown help

[harsh pecan]

Try

[upbeat siren]

You can do it! I believe in you!

[icy spruce]

Why is the cooldown 1 min anyways, that’s longer than #general-sky-discussion ‘s cooldown

[neat flint]

Theory: We're actually at Eden already and The top of the Vault is the bottom of the Vault, here's why:

The whole Vault we know is just a dream this whole time. We've been lucid dreaming. Many dreams are based on memories. It explains that we've been to Vault before but as someone else (the prince to be exact). We're going through his memories in the dream but dreams can mess up things sometimes that explains why the Vault looks un-real through each meditation. And the shrine at the end of Vault is like a way to escape the dream.

After the Elder cutscene, we return to reality. With the Vault in a broken and abandoned look, that's the real Vault and it's just the first floor. The rest of the Vault was destroyed that's why we see another Vault Elder shrine when we ascend to Orbit.

Please help me correct if there are any mistakes , my English is bad so I can't describe clearly 😭. My head hurts btw

[upbeat siren]

That could explain why the different levels in vault resemble the different realms (lvl one isle, 2 prairie, 3 forest, etc)

[neat flint]

Overall, we're just playing with our minds

[harsh pecan]

Yo thats a really good theory! Just a question, is the “first” floor of Vault also a hallucination?

[neat flint]

Y e s

[harsh pecan]

Wait but we can also see the “first” floor in the Wasteland Temple, right? so how does that work?

[neat flint]

After we enter the gate at the end of wasteland we kinda get to the real Vault but fall into the "first" floor

[hushed steeple]

Ok so

Im always gonna rally for memory > dream

[harsh pecan]

Ohh

[thorny cipher]

Isle dosent even have any daily quest and candle cakes tooo when i started playing i thought isle would have daily quests

[thorny cipher]

Another vault elder shrine in orbit ? Where

[upbeat rampart]

Vault Elder Shrine? In Orbit?

Two, it's not a dream per se. Would that mean that all those people were a part of the dream too? The spirits?

Personally it's a good theory but it doesn't suit me ig, but escape from dream...would that mean those lanterns were trying to keep skykids in dream?

What I do (or can) agree here (which you didn't mention but-) is that Memory Lanterns ensures that we're trapped in our memory instead.

[neat flint]

Screenshot from ginsy

[thorny cipher]

Ok

[neat flint]

My theory is they died from the real vault but their memories are kept in our dream/memory

[upbeat rampart]

I-
I didn't ever see this before
Before those valley races like things with jellyfish, from color theme?

[neat flint]

The part where we ascend to Orbit

[upbeat rampart]

How is real Vault like? Just curious

[neat flint]

I don’t know but I think this is the real vault

Screenshot from yash1352

[high bison]

Ight you have me hooked on the ‘vault is an illusion theory’

[upbeat rampart]

They did mention it in canon lore docs that the upper floors of Vault was somewhat of a dream I think

[high bison]

Probably like the vault we see in game, but a little more grounded

[high bison]

According to the theory, the real Vault was largely destroyed and the Vault we see in game is one big vision. The spirits were real, but they were real inside the real vault. But they come to us inside this ‘dream vault’

[upbeat rampart]

Grounded as in more light and less memory lanterns, perhaps?

[high bison]

I mean like… less big open spaces with no walls or floors

[upbeat rampart]

Oh, I see. So that was Vault before the explosion/downfall, but then downfall happened, they got wiped up and then they're more dreamlike?

[high bison]

I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hushed steeple]

Wait, maybe this helps – First time entering vault vs. after the Elder cutscene

[neat flint]

It matches

[upbeat rampart]

Just noticed the similarities apart from the crumbled diamond 👀
Also then we just went up and then upto the Sumit, then the elevator [powered by memory lanterns] just fell back and landed onto Eden's gate?

But why isn't it on the ground floor in the first place, then?

[neat flint]

I think the diamond creates a hallucination effect

[upbeat rampart]

Hallucination effect? Now I'm curious because I've thought it was solely the memory lanterns

[neat flint]

Diamond also reflects memory ig? In the vault elder cutscene

It looks more powerful

[hushed steeple]

Well, here's an idea.

You have to meditate at every level. The more you meditate, the more you get inside your own head, detached from reality. This is shown by the fact that Vault gets progressively more dreamlike in the upper levels.

Also, one unique thing about the entrance to Vault is that there's a small cutscene with the tagline "Climb the Vault…"
You don't see that with any other realm, other than – wait for it – in the temples.

And it's the only thing left after the cutscene?

Maybe we want to leave open the idea that the ground level of Vault is the temple itself, and the rest of it is the memory projected by the diamond.

On a different note, I just did Eden for the first time since the update and I have so many thoughts

[boreal nebula]

Sorry if I intrude, but I think that is separate from Vault. Once I thought that could be the top of Vault was ripped by the storm and that's why there are the same Elders' Tombstones in both Eden Castle and where we met Vault Elder

But in the Isle Temple murals we can see the 6 temples and the Tower of Vault has a distinctive sphere on the top of it

The same tower can be see after we exit Vault if we fly up high enough in Eden Lobby/Social Area

Another thing is that if you ever land on the Elders' Tombstone in Eden Castle, they look alot more bigger than the ones when we met Vault Elder (maybe a hint that those were hes memories of that place, after all Vault floors get more and more dreamscapes as we climb)

Here my screenshots for proof

Btw with the upcoming season I kind of hoped devs could add the symbol in the Assembly Treehouse HQ maps to point at Flight locations 🔰

Screenshot is old by I recently checked after the update but, nothing

[upbeat rampart]

Makes sense!

Also got a small idea of initial try being of the dreamlike state when we enter--interpreted as right after gw.

Our tiredness from the last realm and the need to relax as well as a memory play from so far (the background and music there seems to fit the introspective vibe) so our Skykid gives in and thinks of their journey so far in their head.

The spirits are real but thy finish before gw constellation because from that point (and Vault itself) is just more memory than actually happening. It was originally wiped off but to give a sense of "completion" it's there but...more barren. Because what more can an illusion do?

And after getting to Vault Elder's shrine (which was actually never finished, it was too late, but it somewhat exists and the memory lantern + diamond helped) which makes us skykids go through our journey one last time before Eden.

[boreal nebula]

See nothing new recently, just got minor texture error

[upbeat rampart]

Looks like a map of forest of some sort (with golden being areas where you do quests. I really just realised that)

[boreal nebula]

The only mistery on that map for me is the tiny house drawing (bewteen the textures glitch lines)

I have 2 interpretations about it:

-Either it's a gazebo in the broke area aswell as the 2nd hut marked with the eyelike icon (even if it's not so close enough as it should be)
-Or it's a fireplace, like the one in Sunny Forest, where the Season of Belonging took place (maybe I root more for this idea)

[upbeat rampart]

The first quest area? It kind of looks like that

Or Treehouse location? (this prob makes more sense than previous suggestion)

The one in sunny forest seems like a great addition tho, I think it could be that more

[harsh pecan]

Woah

[neat flint]

Well we have one ig?

So i think there won't be any more of them to be added

[terse prism]

drops down hey hey! Quick question, do we have lore about how power diamonds are made?

[hushed steeple]

in a piece of scrapped lore they're found in and mined from hidden forest by the prince

[hexed silo]

tho it probably is canon based off on the hidden forest stuff

[upbeat rampart]

Red candles: actually a part of skykid? This actually just just adds up to this theory, I'm not so sure but at least it makes sense a bit

(It could be a symbolism of time but why red in specific? Not white? Makes it clearerish)

[oak axle]

About the whole Elder’s Apprentice thing

Which spirit is which Elder’s Apprentice/Former Apprentice

[quick terrace]

I thinking possibly spirits that possess head pieces that resemble the elders? Not sure

[oak axle]

I mean you aren’t wrong… Flight QG (I call them Windy) does have hair accessories that resembles Daylight Prairie Elder’s hair

[quick terrace]

Yaya, but I think that’s more so related to the fact that they resemble wings more but definitely an interesting point 👀

[oak axle]

Wait I’m curious if Belonging QG shows that Elders are immortal beings (because QG is a grandma)

I wouldn’t be surprised if Grandma QG (Belonging) is Forest Elder’s Best Friend

Also what do Elder Apprentices do even????

[quick terrace]

Well probably learn to be the best at the specific like, areas that each realm manages, Forest being production and mining, Wasteland being fighting, Prairie probably something in relation to the light creatures

But that feels more like jobs they’d have, so I’m not too sure

[rigid mural]

The elders are confirmed to be ageless and genderless by the devs in an interview or stream, so they're probably immortal yeah

[icy spruce]

Ye

[livid valley]

Ye

[neat flint]

In sky: light awaits there’s a part where sky kid learn the ability to burn and a candle appears from their chest or sth I forgot

There we go
https://youtu.be/XZBePGk6UqY (at the 4:21 part)

[icy spruce]

Oh hi Meow

[rigid mural]

The elders do seem to be defined a good chunk by their job;

Isle is likely a kind of psychopomp figure associated with boats, who, in real life, have a transitional property like most methods of transport. Noteworthy: boats are also strongly associated with water, a sacred element in Sky according to concept art.
Isle Elder probably watched over docks and ships, and their realm seems to have been an area travelers stopped by (hence the tents in the switch trailer).

Going off the QG lore, Prairie seems to be a protector of creatures of some sorts. Their cutscene shows them being able to create butterflies from your offering of light. Noteworthy that it's where you first interact with mantas, who follow you through your journey.
Prairie Elder probably watched over animals and livestock, their realm looks fertile and it seems like it lived off exporting products grown or raised here (judging by the number of pots with light, butterflies and plants in them).

Forest makes me think of those blacksmithing/engineering entities that forge magical weapons for heroes; they do seem passionate about their job, enough to kinda ignore the skykid after they got the light offering lol
Forests are appreciated by blacksmiths for the abundance of wood too.
Forest elder probably watched over technology, yes, but also general crafting. Their realm has among the most mechanisms and it wouldn't surprise me a lot of creative spirits respected them.

(to be continued, somehow exceeded character limit)

Valley immediately made me think of ancient Greece with the mountains, sport themes and architecture (my greek architect friend looked at my screenshots and thought of african buildings, interestingly). This was only reinforced by the twins making me think of Castor and Pollux. Fun fact, those two are based off sumerian twin gods who guard the gates to the underworld... and both sets are often depicted on doors.
Perhaps they have a transitional nature as well ? Janus, a roman god, also has similar themes... The next level does amp up the difficulty and drastically changes the tone.
Valley elders definitely watched over sports. I don't really need to illustrate it, the candles you light before a race are probably an echo of the ceremonies of old that could have been in their honor.

Golden Wastes elder is pretty obvious, they're a soldier. War gods in the general consensus are like Ares and Mars, a personification of violence and horror (Ares has charming offspring...) but our Elder looks pained themselves by war... Perhaps they're more like a patron of their realm like the Morrigan (tripartite war goddess that's a patron of Ireland) or Teutatis (gaulish war god that's the personification of a tribe), which could mean they reflect the realm's overall destruction.
Golden Wastes elder probably watched over most kind of military stuff, kinda like the archangel Michael in christian lore (idk if jews and muslims see him as a military angel as much as christians do tbh).

(to be continued, bis)

_ _
Vault elder's job is also pretty obvious, they're a kind of scholarly storyteller or teacher. The entire vault is a callback to previous realms, which sets them apart as well since their job is much more lowkey. They're probably akin to the wizard gods in DnD that conveniently aren't aligned and dispense magic, knowledge, yadda yadda.
Vault elder probably watched over scholarly matters and were revered to by savants and spellcasters, kinda like a library cryptid you gotta pay respects to. They probably won't do anything if you don't but you might get wierd looks and defective memory diamonds. Software engineer rubber ducky ?

[upbeat rampart]

Wait, woah I just saw
That's beautiful!

Funny how in the updated version you get the white candle out and then your soul bit just goes

Also that Isle is making me so jealous, but Aviary more

[rigid mural]

Me on all the other elders: serious
Me on vault elder:

[compact shale]

what is that?

[rigid mural]

Candy placed on top of electronics so they work. I recall someone saying their name means "well behaved".

[compact shale]

o hh h h h h

[thorny cipher]

You can find more of these :-
Cave of prophecy . Where the second candle bunch is
In the sancutary islands . But u think there is only the wind path and not the statue
In hermits valley behind the cave
In forgotten ark it also dosent have a statue
In starlight desert in left side of the king place it doesn't have a statue cause it is in the air

[neat flint]

Yes i was referring to forest only

[zinc idol]

Hmm how do the skykids multiple when they are genderless?

[compact shale]

Skykids don't reproduce, they fall from the sky

[icy spruce]

Ye

[solid dove]

Theyer stars that fall

[thorny cipher]

They are stars that take humanoid form to help the elders or i think the elders made them humanoid with there last bit power to help them

[compact shale]

they're stars in clay bodies

[solid dove]

Wait has anyone questioned why sky kids have eyes open when there’s a mask but the eyes are closed when you aren’t wearing a mask

[thorny cipher]

dont ask questions its terrfying

[solid dove]

Well I asked a question accidentally so do you know why

[thorny cipher]

Dont know

[solid dove]

Aight

[hushed steeple]

Guys, the new seasonal spirit descriptions in #news contain lore!

[icy spruce]

Yes, we’re getting crumbs everyone

[sharp latch]

Ik! It’s so cool the Questgiver’s info reminded me of a sanctuary theory I saw a while ago.

From the other character descriptions they seem to live on a travelling hospital for light creatures, with chimes that work like Sanctuary’s. And as the questgiver was Prairie Elder’s former apprentice, and sanctuary is in Prairie, we can assume that sanctuary and the new area have the same purpose, and that sanctuary was made by Prairie Elder or another of their apprentices

And the old theory I mentioned earlier (idk who made it) was that Sanctuary was made to save light creatures without the other elders knowledge. The new area seems to be an extension of that in Forest, where the captured creatures were freed and rehabilitated

[ashen granite]

Suspicious that the krill didn't attack the prince. What if the krill used to actually be good but when a darkness came they got corrupted and started attacking mantas, so the elders (since they're made of the same light us skykids are) tried to stop them and that's why they attack us because we give off an aura or something of the enemy.

[orchid jolt]

genuine question, why dont the sky calls that the whispering spirits give us sound like the actual sky creature?

[violet sundial]

I think it’s because its more like a loose impression of it, or tones that the creatures will actually respond to

Id say a good example is the jelly call vs how jellies sound

The jelly call still imitates the sort of undulating sound that jellies make but its not as. Chime like. Which is probably because skykids are simply doing impressions from their normal voice (base call)

[lament marsh]

on the wall drawings in sky,what does isle's one and forgotten ark's one mean?

[hushed steeple]

Could you share pictures?

[nimble ingot]

I think they are referring to the cave drawing at the very start of the isle of dawn. The one that sort of replaces the opening cutscene that explained what happened to the elders and spirits.

And the drawings of the forgotten ark with the spirits carrying orbs on a ship, that then crashed.

[hushed steeple]

Oooh
It reminds me of something I should share so we could talk about it
Long story short: it's about the symbols often associated with Skykids

[nimble ingot]

ah, please do tell 🙏

[hushed steeple]

Well, uh…give me a few moments

[hushed steeple]

I had to write it out because otherwise it would've been too long

Oh, I forgot
Used to receive and give Winged Light

[nimble ingot]

First off, I love your drawings, so cute!

Second, it is very interesting how the star symbol (number 3) and the the isle symbol (number 1) can be combined and form the light symbol (number 6)

[rigid mural]

Oh my god we need an illustrated symbol dictionary here, this would be so cool

[hushed steeple]

😮 Nice observation!
(Thank you for the commendation )
Did I get the Prince symbol right? I get confused between the Prince and the King
But what could that mean?

[hushed steeple]

I feel like that's what the concept art does
But yeah, illustrated dictionary would be nice ^^

[narrow anvil]

i love your hand writing

[hushed steeple]

Thank you! My default is cursive so I just wrote in all caps here so it's readable

I also think about the circle/sphere quite a lot. In the Vault cutscene, the Eden Elder is seen with a sphere close to their mouth, as if eating a forbidden fruit.

The cores of Skykids and spirits are spheres. (You know, the core you light up to relive their memories?)

Not much else is spherical in Sky, so what could that mural be depicting? I'd share my thoughts, but they're too dark

[nimble ingot]

Sky lore can be as light and wholesome as the birds and the mantas, and as dark as the dark water and krill at times.
Surely your theories are not that bad, right?

[hushed steeple]

It's so bad that it got automatically deleted

[nimble ingot]

lol, I was wondering what happened.

The one on artworks!?
Oh man, ok, that dark. O:

[hushed steeple]

Yup, and now I'm deleting it

[nimble ingot]

no, please dont-

aww (darn it, the cooldown)

[hushed steeple]

Please talk me out of it I don't know how that got there

…you know what, maybe they got hungry and ate winged light
Yup. Sticking with that for now.

[nimble ingot]

welp, If the game did use some Greek mythology for inspiration, this would be a interesting development lol.
Should I relay some parallels here for the lore-mongers?

[hushed steeple]

You could, but I'm logging off now
Will check pings in…8 hours, so

[sharp latch]

Could someone pin this?

[nimble ingot]

The Greek god, Cronos, is a cruel titan god and king of the titans.
He ruled in the mythological golden age, feared of being overthrown by his own son, Zeus (god of sky and thunder) and imprisoned in Tartarus (where the wicked are sent to be tormented and punished after death).

There is more to this guy than just this. Though I will leave this wiki page for those who want to read more into it.
Note that the links leads to info that is not for young/sensitive users.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus

[boreal nebula]

Wow, even down there?

[hoary violet]

learning about the downfalls of civilizations and now I’m thinking about what happened in sky

[half shadow]

Fun fact! There’s actually TWO deities named Cronos/Chronos/Kronos. One of them is the father of the Olympians (Kronos), the other is a seperate figure who is the embodiment of time itself known as Father Time (Cronos/Chronos.) They get merged frequently across history.

i’m a massive mythology geek so whenever i see this stuff i have to ramble about it sorry lol if anybody wants to talk Greek myth in relation to Sky I am always happy to 👀

[forest vector]

I think that it’s also worth mentioning that the golden age was a time of peace and prosperity for all. When Cronus was overthrown and Zeus became ruler of the universe, it became the silver age, a time when harsh weather, sickness, hunger, and more started to plague mankind. He also ruled during the bronze and iron ages, where things got progressively worse. We are theoretically living in the Iron Age right now, so take that as you will. (Seriously, both versions I read aligned a bit too much for comfort in both versions of the story I read, especially for stories made several thousand years ago give or take.)

There is also a version of the myth where Cronus (implied to be father of the olympians Cronus but could be both or either), ruled over heros who, instead of dying, went to live in kingdoms much like the golden age at the far ends of the world. These hero’s being the ones from the time of the Iliad and the Odyssey. So if tgc based anything off of this stuff then that’s pretty interesting.👀

[haughty talon]

Sky probably had giants at one time... Some stuff in game look like they were meant for giants and not little sky kids... Like who rides that whale/slug that's as big as that floating castle 🏰 we get to see in ascension... And not to mention stuff like temple doors, some pots, axe/hammers. Swords and spears etc being so big

[harsh pecan]

Tysm

[untold notch]

so we have our first person connected to an elder other than the skids

[balmy violet]

Do you guys think the elders all have apprentices?

This has been nagging me for so long.
I want to make a fan fiction about it.

[wheat cypress]

well we have solid evidence now from the little infographic that TGC posted in the news channel, about the Flight guide being an apprentice of the Prarie elder

And many ppl were apprentices of the prophets during season of prophecy, it's definitely not out of the question for the elders to have had apprentices also

[icy spruce]

True

[balmy violet]

I wonder what happened.
If the light fell sometime after the apprentices of the elders were elected

Bc the Flight guide looks like an adult or in the early adulthood

[wheat cypress]

huh, good point

[balmy violet]

Late teens.
And if the elders already had some apprentices they flight one mightve been the youngest and the
Last probs

[rigid mural]

spirit rides a manta, how could I forget this legend.
Does that mean the Valley races could have indeed been done on manta back ???
That would be so cool, explains why a group of them follows us through both races.

[hushed steeple]

why do sky kids have masks and why do you have to pay to take it off

[harsh pecan]

Because the no-mask is a cosmetic and all cosmetics cost something? Idk

[jaunty tapir]

Flight guide description says "has a better vision of a more harmonious life"

Any theory on who's vision is being compared? :oo I'm thinking prairie elder or the king?

Ahh so excited for the season!! Hoping for lore crumbs

[upbeat rampart]

I thought it was Elders in general (minus Vault, or probably with them--I just have a soft spot for them aa)

[pallid matrix]

Maybe, the Elders/King or their vision is just better in general.

Which is probably why Prairie Elder took interest in them and made them their apprentice.

[hushed steeple]

i wonder why the spirits have diamond eyes

[harsh pecan]

It might be the King imo

[hushed steeple]

Maybe they're estranged from the Prairie Elder because they have a better vision?

Also, I'm happy my drawings/annotations were well-received
But if we want something like this to be pinned, maybe it should be more complete. That was off the top of my head; there are symbols and objects that I missed.

[cinder tapir]

hey lore basement dwellers? can someone fill me in on what the megabird is and where was it first mentioned?

[hushed steeple]

This is Megabird.
You can see them on the ceiling in Orbit.
Supposedly they are the supreme god being of the world of Sky. They give Skykids their cape (according to a theory), IIRC.

Megabird in Orbit overhead
(Previous pic is from the credits)

[sharp latch]

Megabird is o old lore concept that can still be seen at the end of the Eden rebirth credits. In the concept art they were the Deity of light and protected (?) the kingdom of Sky

[cinder tapir]

ah so THATS what the thing was in the credits, interesting!!!

[harsh pecan]

Ye there’s also a bunch of different characters that a lot of people don’t know about

[icy spruce]

Thanj you

[lime gull]

i don’t usually do much lore BUT WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT ENDING IN THE TRAILER

[icy spruce]

Which trailer

Ohhh, WAI TI HAVEN’T WATCHED IT

[thin dirge]

WOAH, LORE CRUMBS

[lime gull]

For the new season. It’s on tgc’s YouTube channel

[icy spruce]

HOLY CRABS, LORE CRUMBS

I DON’T KNOW BUT DAKRNESS IS SPREADING AND IM LOVING IT

[thin dirge]

WHAT'S WITH THAT ENDING!? LORE CRUMB AND CLIFFHANGER???

[lime gull]

I suspect this is the darkness’ doing since the clouds became similar to wasteland

[icy spruce]

ARE WE FINALLY HAVING ‘THE FALL’ LORE???

[lime gull]

Btw has it been confirmed what this “darkness” specifically is?

[harsh pecan]

WAIT LEMME WATCH

[icy spruce]

BET SEASON OF FLIGHT HAS MORE LORE THAN PROPH

(Okay, maybe not but like YOO???)

[thin dirge]

Is this a lead up to an upcomin season focusing on GW?

[lime gull]

Who else wants a story mode for sky?

[neat flint]

Quest 1: the questgiver has been waiting for someone like you so Prince or King has been to the wind paths

Well more lore will come through each quests

[icy spruce]

lorelorelorelorelroelorleolreolrollorelorelorelorelorelorelorleolorelorelorelorelorelorleolre

[neat flint]

Lore seekers are getting fed too much for this season

[icy spruce]

That’s good

[median shale]

SO MUCH LORE CRUMBS AND THINGS REMINISCENT OF IDEAS PRESENT IN THE CONCEPT ART THIS SEASON IS MAKING ME SO HAPPY ALREADY

[harsh pecan]

lore crumbs :D

[raw crypt]

this is killing me im so scared and excited hohhhhh

[median shale]

Yeah, especially the season arrival Twitter post,, in the last few seconds OHH man

[harsh pecan]

Hopefully the next season will have more lore too

[median shale]

Yeah, it does seem that they’ve been incorporating more direct lore lately from what I’ve seen.

[jaunty tapir]

That trailer gave me the chills wow but what do they meaaaan

[solemn barn]

Interesting

[cinder tapir]

we are EATING so much this season my god

[solemn barn]

So the darkness eventually invade the seasonal area
They came from past to revenge

[thin dirge]

Hmm, that part in the end may have been showcasing an event from the past tho

[median shale]

Seems likely to me too, like showing how the area fell into darkness and why we’d need to restore the windpaths. But it would be intriguing if it were showing a future/present event in sky

[analog vapor]

Hmmmm I’m speculating that darkness has taken over the world and a season in eden to gw to stop the darkness from spreading... Or it could be cause of days of mischief no one knows

Any beta players who has seen this map before. The dark version of the season of flight map. Was it before or after the days of mischief was released?

[median shale]

Ah yeah I saw you say this in general and I think that’d be a really cool thing to see

[analog vapor]

IMMA DO SOME RESEARCH.

It could be just days of mischief decor

[high bison]

Ok what season of flight lore do we have so far?

[neat flint]

Time will tell

[analog vapor]

We’re talking in dms :)) just for lore
Maybe there’s something in prophesy cave or ark?

[median shale]

Ouuu

[stable agate]

is there a google doc of lore and theories that are considered canon? I'd love to catch up for the lost time where I wasn't actively reading through everything here TvT

[hearty dune]

Wait wait so there was once many wind paths but they one opened in somewhere dangerous like graveyard instead of ark or accidentally in gw in general

I’m thinking darkness came through and ruined the wind paths or it’s the king thingy I’m not caught up on

[raw crypt]

I am thinking so hard and I need to get my thoughts out,

I believe its all in the past as future/‘days of’ events would not make sense of future players and newer story seasons are meant to be enjoyed whenever

So I believe that later/last quests of Flight is what will be seen in the last seconds of the trailer. From what we’ve seen of flight there is a heavy emphasis on light creatures, from traveling to caring for them to using bells to talk with them, light and the harmony with the creatures is vital for this civilization

But it’s abandoned
Abandoned crossroads

There was no longer a need for it, and that’s because boats and such became powered by technology (see the dreams boats), technology became the center of attention, but its also what caused that downfall with darkstone and such in concepts and so like.

I think flight will display that shift? It gets dark and green like wasteland, maybe its during the era of darkness, or that one war concept or maybe its before the fall, I DONT KNOW IM SCARED AND SO EXCITED TO FIND OUT

finally 🧪 lore season

[median shale]

In pinned there are many!

[stable agate]

sweet, thanks!

[analog vapor]

Or it could just be days of mischief decor and we are killing our brains for nothing

[median shale]

I hope not.

[odd cloak]

Lore lore lore lore like dsmp but this is sky lore lore lore

[raw crypt]

ID CRY IF TGC FAKED US OUT WITH THAT? it just doesnt feel right to derail a trailer abt a season with a ‘days of’ thing if u catch my drift

[icy spruce]

canon doc was unpinned so uh

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit

[cinder tapir]

ーーTHANK S

[median shale]

Also I think its placement right at the entry of forest is quite symbolic as the transition between the care and cooperation between the ancestors and light creatures to the exploitation of the light to fuel dark stone happens right between forest and prairie,,,

If we’re assuming those ending moments were eluding to any of it

[high bison]

@analog vapor LOOK

[analog vapor]

Uhhhh

[raw crypt]

YEAH YEAH, its right between prairie and forest which has that wild variation in the treatment of light creatures
sorry i had nothing to add but agreement i am jsut so intrigued

[median shale]

Same I’m so excited for the possible lore implications

And I will also be upset if the end part of the trailer was a doop (idk how to spell that bfbfbf)

[terse nest]

What happening in the ending trailer? The wind path become dark like GW and i hear a krill sound?

[median shale]

Oho I didn’t have sound on—
That adds another layer to it (idk why but it does)

[icy spruce]

YES, ITS DEFFO KRILL SOUND

[terse nest]

I AM SO CONFUSED😭

[analog vapor]

Wait aren’t spirit memories are just... memories. Does that mean for example the season of flight came first than dreams because dreams has highly advanced tech like floating boats while in flight boats are carried by mantas

[raw crypt]

it feels so weird to get (potential) sky lore like this..
IM A MOTH SO I STILL CANT SAY MUCH FOR PAST SEASONS BUT YKNOW

I think whats got me thinking abt it technology vs creature thing is because of note on Flight QGs thing about having a vision for a more harmonious life, if society were leaning to far one way too hard (tech) than that harmony may be disrupted and well, they have their own visions of what would be best for the society

maybe im reaching im new in town (this chat )

OH MY GOD I DIDNT NOTICE THAT, oh my god are we getting creature corruption ark?? oh my god

[pastel brook]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[icy spruce]

OOHHOHO, A LORE MOFF- EVIL LAUGHTER

anyways, do you want a doc that might help u in lore

Yes, they are memories sadly

[analog vapor]

Can anyone confirm that spirits that we relive are just memories TwT

[raw crypt]

Yes that’s what I believe timeline wise! Especially since iirc flights area desc says its an ancient civilization!

AND IM NOT NEW TO LORE I am. so invested AHA, just don’t usually comment here is what I meant!

[icy spruce]

Oh sorry, anyways lorecrumbslorecrumbslorecrumbs

[raw crypt]

lore crumbs my beloved, i am a simple pigeon and tgc is an old lady in the park tossing breadcrumbs

[median shale]

ALSO mentioned that questgiver was a prairie elder apprentice
So they’d be extremely intent on balance and respect towards light creature while still using their powers of flight/flame.

It’s just so interesting the placement of the area.
And then the reference to wasteland
There are definitely pieces there but I’m just not sure at the moment how I’d put them together. I could jump to some things but I hope they expand on this more throughout the season,,,,

[analog vapor]

Maybe the seasons aren’t in order for example TLP season then Flight but TLP maybe had come after flight. We need a person to figure out the season timeline. Also some of all season entrances are on the right. And and the questgiver for flight was once an apprentice for the priarie elder

[median shale]

See but I’m not sure yet whether to consider TLP as canon in sky seeing as it’s collaborative. It’s iffy but interesting to think about

But besides that I understand where you’re coming from in the whole out of order seasons thing as it’d make loads of sense

[analog vapor]

Maybe there was a war?

[raw crypt]

YESSS, im very excited to see future quests and piece more together!!
but also omg the two week wait

[harsh pecan]

I just remember a list on which seasons were before power diamonds and which ones came after

[analog vapor]

Maybe it’s just.... Decor. Also in the world of sky there are diamonds everywhere. In vault for example or the forest elder cutscene

[median shale]

A war like the one between the creatures and ancestors that caused the storm, or the first one, or one separate to those or just excluding the war theory and referencing something entirely outside of that?

[analog vapor]

Maybe a war between light creatures and technology or dark vs light or something but there’s a low chance there’s a war

[median shale]

Yeah. That’s a large speculation and some references to that happening in concept art

In one concept art resource there’s a full concept timeline of events but then there’s the fact that that’s only a concept art

[raw crypt]

I’m gonna hop off since its late but I’m very excited for flight is all i have to say HDHFFH

[harsh pecan]

I remember seeing something about protecting the holy land idk i forgot

[analog vapor]

It’s definitely something about darkness. Imagine it just being days of mischief decor

[median shale]

Also,, are beta spoilers avoided here cause if not there’s something really interesting regarding days of mischief I’d like to bring up

And yeah the whole holy land part,, in the timeline from what I can remember they built a large ship to protect from light creatures that I think was made from darkstone and since the ship was approaching the holy land (eden) the elder creatures sacrificed themselves by ramming into the ship and destroying it and the aftermath is what caused the storm and trapped the king at the summit of eden.

[analog vapor]

Put a spoiler tag

Any more theories. I like hearing ur guys theories 😊

[icy spruce]

Beta spoilers are obviously not allowed here, beta stays in beta channels

[analog vapor]

...oki

[median shale]

Oh never mind then,, I’ll hold that thought till the event starts then

[icy spruce]

Chat got krilled

[pastel brook]

A quick advice from wise ol' Skybot: remember to take a break every once a while and take care of yourselves please, fellow Sky kids

[analog vapor]

Ik he’s a bot but thank you

[median shale]

Also just the detail that light creatures are all things like birds, mantas, jellyfish, whales, even softer fungi that all have soft outsides and are (mostly) based off ocean creatures
As opposed to dark/corrupted creatures that are crustaceans (or in the case of plants they are more spiky and brambly looking) which kinda relates to a dark stone corruption/shell 0_0
I’m sure this correlation has been made multiple times before, but I just wanna appreciate it

[analog vapor]

Anyone have some theories bout the new trailer ending. I’m happy to hear ur theories.

[icy spruce]

oh no, darkness is spreading anyway

[high bison]

Maybe it isn’t as significant as we think…
Maybe it’s around the tunnel to the graveyard and… it just looks like that

[echo cave]

YO THE LAST PART OF THE NEW TRAILER ..

[high bison]

Then again… it is an awful lot of green to just be a decorated entrance…

[icy spruce]

Krills, darknes, chaos

[analog vapor]

Ok so it’s either a decor for days of mischief, a new season about darkness and light, or lore.... We need to rule out some things to know what the ending of the trailer means. A season, decor or my favorite LORE

[icy spruce]

Deffo not decor for mischief cuz why would they put than in SEASON OF FLIGHT trailer

[analog vapor]

True let’s rule out decor. Now there a high chance it’s a season. Or maybe a secret something in the quests that were not in beta?

[icy spruce]

Its deffo season quest, prolly 4th one

Since last one gotta be solving the darkness problem

[hushed steeple]

I have a headcanon.
All seasons show like a "slice of life." An episode of "Meanwhile, in this region of Sky…"
A glimpse into what Sky was like before its fall.

Skykids train in the Cave of Prophecies to survive out there.
They retreat to Sanc when tired.
A child has a dream to fulfill and an entire village pitches in on that.
This season, I think we might see a slice of life that comes very close to the descending darkness.

[analog vapor]

Maybe tgc is giving clues on what the new season could be. Remember the season is all about rebuilding wind paths that CONNECT REALMS. That something big.

[icy spruce]

Or that, anyways I bet 4 candles that the darkness spreading is on 4th quest >:)

/hj

[analog vapor]

I think 5th >:)

[icy spruce]

Well then, let’s see it in a few weeks or so

[hushed steeple]

ayt bruh but how do you get that winged light inside the cave that keeps blowing u off to the stratosphere bc it is annoying as heck

[analog vapor]

Cave under the island

[analog vapor]

Also if u need help the go to #questions-and-help

[night tulip]

Have you guys seen the ending of the seasonal trailer in youtube?

[hushed steeple]

Yessssss!! They rly did a great job lmao I can't wait for the season after flight

[median shoal]

IM SCARED

[hushed steeple]

Im in love with the last 13 seconds

[median shoal]

< kwjsksj, i dont like it

[hushed steeple]

Given the last few seconds of the trailer and what I saw of the area, I wonder if the residents and Elders even saw the darkness coming.

Eden looks like a storm and and an explosion. Generally speaking, you really can't predict explosions. You only know when it strikes.

So maybe the reason that intro line "Darkness came and the stars fell" is vague because even the spirits and Elders don't know what exactly happened.

What they do know is that they've documented a lot through murals and by preserving their memories. They just need someone to look at that and decipher what happened.

So they awaken a child with sentience (a Skykid), who can go around the realms, fly, explore, and try to get closer to solving the mystery.

[lilac stone]

I don't think only a sky kid like us had sentience, the elders and the spirits before had sentience I think except for the light creatures

[hushed steeple]

Bruh poor flight spirits had to wait their whole life and longer for us to free the light paths

[lilac stone]

Anyway, if it rains toxic in forest, how come the clouds aren't toxic? How did the people of flight season build their civilization? Dark stone?

[undone cedar]

I don't expect the end in Flight teaser though
That was a jumpscare

[wintry skiff]

i don't think the forest's rain is "toxic" in a literal way. It more like saps your character's light or warmth.
Since worldmaps are meant to represent stages of human life, the Hidden Forest is associated to that transition of teen days to adult life. The rain in there are the bittersweet you'll live through and that will sap you, but every now and then you'll find beautiful moments too (like the meadow in Sunny Forest section)

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, what could it mean?

[haughty talon]

Did lore chat pick this up? A spirit in the talented builder's memory :

[lilac stone]

Theory but what if we accidentally open a path to a dark place and the flight area and other wind paths get corrupted

[terse nest]

Guys! You know the ending in the trailer? It might be that hint for final quest or something i think ||(My theory)||

[quick terrace]

If I remember correctly, I think the rain is supposed to be a metaphor or literal example of acidic rain as we see lots of mining and deforestation in forest. Which can both contribute to acid rain irl

[hushed steeple]

Wait what’s at the end of the trailer?

[quick terrace]

Everything going dark 👀

[high bison]

Green
Wasteland green

[mossy rune]

krill noises as well something bad is coming

[obsidian locust]

For some lighthearted comments, I ship builder and navigator I mean look at this prolonged gaze when they flagged them off the island

Also, navigator and light whisperer are siblings. My proof? They have similar hair and their islands are near each other

Would any of this hold up in court? Absolutely not. But that’s what headcanon is for

[hushed steeple]

those wind tunnels bruuhhh uugghh

[quick terrace]

I think the fact that light whisperer’s hair looks so similar to the default moth hair adds to the idea that the hair style may have been popular among children back when the civilisation was around and booming. especially when we’re told that the light whisperer is the youngest of the group

[obsidian locust]

Ooh true

[hushed steeple]

There’s this area in vault, looks like there’s a table and 6 chairs....hmmm

[scenic pelican]

Hey guys! Do you think the upcoming new areas - after season of flight - will also be connected to the new Flight zone?

[rigid mural]

Seems like it. Also MANTAS PULLING BOATS,,,
I think it's both super cool and adorable to see the boats in action up close; I feel like the absence of dark stone technology (due to the boats not being powered by it) could mean the ancestors were suspicious of it too and might have founded havens to escape it. It's interesting to see the possibility of a conflict between ancestors about how their society should be powered...

[orchid jolt]

Anyone have any clue what happened to the butterflies?

I feel like it's been to long to be a bug anymore...

[rigid mural]

Noteworthy that the area is pretty similar to bird's nest and sanctuary; perhaps it's technically a part of forest but is closer to prairie in lifestyle and environment.
I also really like how the guide isn't just awkwardly standing and waiting for you to tap them, perhaps spirits can do their own thing while waiting for sky kids !

[rigid mural]

If you go to this area before a server merge, you see dark plants growing there. Perhaps this could confirm that butterflies can turn into dark plants if left... unnatended for too long.
See the prairie pots in the exhausted dock worker area that grew plants.

[scenic pelican]

Might be even the whole fauna, remember the fish skeleton in Forest, covered by dark plants

[obsidian locust]

Fungi are known to grow on dead things irl so maybe dark plants are a kind of fungi

[rigid mural]

The concept art does say creatures that died unnaturally/before reaching Eden left corpse...

[orchid jolt]

the thing is, a while ago burning those plants released butterflies, now burning them doesnt release butterflies

[distant turtle]

When I asked, someone told me it was a creative decision by the devs to remove the butterflies

[jaunty tapir]

someone here gives links but i'm not sure where that person is there's very informative links in the pins though! (i'm new here too so i can't answer your question directly sorry )

[distant turtle]

Favorite seasonal spirit? Light Whisperer Tinkering Chimesmith 🎐 Talented Builder Lively Navigator 🚩 Season of Flight Guide

[jaunty tapir]

i found this lore moff doc in discord search; might help you out!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

[hushed steeple]

Ooh, ooh – the red stones we see in Eden – the ones that jut out of the rock – could that be the Darkstone?

[distant turtle]

Those are known as corrupted darkstone!

Darkstone: granted the ancestors technological powers, but was also the source of their corruption...

[neat flint]

How do we exactly know if it really is darkstone

[hushed steeple]

…so we don't see the Darkstone as seen in the concept art in-game? 🥺 (React OK!)

[distant turtle]

It is usually formed into diamond or tetrahedron shapes and often we sky kids can light them up to make something happen

[distant turtle]

Right, we don't see raw darkstone in game much or maybe not at all. What we see in their mechanisms is known as refined darkstone!

[thorny cipher]

Why is the questgiver only using emotes from season of sancutary

[neat flint]

Actually they use all of the emotes. It's to make them look more lively

[hushed steeple]

It think it's a nice addition that the spirits are using already established emotes that have a concrete interpretation. As opposed to any reactions that could be misinterpreted.

Nonverbal gestures mean everything in the world of Sky ^^

[lone hull]

Something isn't fine with this, probably the lively navigator had a bad day?

[orchid jolt]

D:

[icy spruce]

haha what 😀

[wary obsidian]

Light Whisperer was a moth? A teenager sky kid? Or am I just going wild due to sleep deprivation right now or..? ._.)???? they look very similar,,

[jaunty tapir]

yep, probably a young spirit! people often called it moth hair 2.0 haha and it's been announced that they're the youngest in their group!

[fair reef]

It is known about what the ancient civilization was like before the players, how they lived, what they did, and one thing or another about their culture, we even know the origin of the king who used to rule thanks to the events of the season of Prophecy, But, what remains a mystery is how this civilization was able to disappear without a trace of how

[hushed steeple]

Hey I just noticed something.
The spirits have constellations in them!

[jaunty tapir]

Maybe we'll get an explanation in this season! The last bit in the trailer showed darkness!

[distant turtle]

I won't spoil it but go relive a TLP spirit memory

[orchid jolt]

like in the vault murals

the only spirt/elder without any constellations inside of them in those murals was the prince/king!

[hushed steeple]

They use manta drawn boats thats so cute 🥺

[fair reef]

Maybe, and it's something I really want to know, since how do we not know something as important as the cause of that problem?

[jaunty tapir]

Well we do kind of know that their technology kind of corrupted them

And flight guide had "a better vision" probably in regards to how their society will advance

[hushed steeple]

I like how the guide wears blue and yellow too. Maybe not completely opposed to tech. Just wants balence

[fair reef]

We can say that, or we can end up going for the easy solution: a mess in the balance of things due to the fall of the winged light from the sky

[rigid mural]

Which trailer ???

[half shadow]

which one are you talking about? this is a spoiler chat you can talk about it

[nimble ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS9UW9ObZj4

[jaunty tapir]

Season of flight trailer :oo

That last part gave me the chills haha though I wondered why there's still birds flying despite the looming darkness

[rigid mural]

Interesting difference between boat models; first one is pulled by mantas and used by the flight spirits; also similar to the ones in the Village of Dreams.
Second one looks powered by darkstone, looks like the same model as the ones we see in prairie, forest, and wastelands (and the Forgotten Ark).

[rigid mural]

THIS WAS EERIE AS HONK ???
Makes me think of the sounds krills make.
Tbh there was a huge spoiler dropped here earlier so I got an idea... iykyk

Also fellas, they got PAINT !!!
LOOK AT THESE

[half shadow]

What I think is really interesting is that this basically proves that the ancestors aren’t able to fly in the same way that Skykids are! I think we could mark that theory down as canon by now

[half shadow]

Also HOLY???? I just watched this too oh my god??? also what’s the spoiler 👀

[hushed steeple]

1. Spirits/ancestors couldn't fly (they can drift, but drifting is not the same as flying where you can control direction, altitude, and speed)
2. There is a way to operate boats other than by the Darkstone – i.e. Having creatures of Light pull them along
3. I suspect krill attack

[rigid mural]

I'd rather not spoil you here, just look up beta stuff.

On another note, seems like this is where they made those weather vanes we see in prairie.

[half shadow]

I gotta say I love the weathervane design. It’s like a bird’s face, Megabird, and a mote of light all in one

[nimble ingot]

Strange how the sanctuary island ones are filled in and the season of flight ones has holes in them.

[half shadow]

Maybe they designated lesser locations of importance?

[nimble ingot]

I had to compare pendants to be sure, sanctuary's pendant is a manta, and flight's is a bird.
vs

or light bird?

[half shadow]

Oooooh, that makes sense. I guess different locations would have different styles of decor. Sanct signs might be modeled after mantas more because of how prominently they’re featured in there, while Flight seems to be alllll about birds. I’m on my knees BEGGING for the giant light chicken to be real

[nimble ingot]

I see there are feathers, Big ones! 🙂
If there is not big bird at the end of the season, I am going to have words with the spirits for not sharing the KFC.
…and the bird not being around.

[half shadow]

#GiantLightChickenTruther

[rigid mural]

Hey, now we got emotes for the king and megabird !
I think that this season might yield more lore than we think, Eden is clearly in view from the top of the main island.
And that castle is still broken, smh...

[half shadow]

Oh for sure. It’s gonna be a more spread out season too which I think might be good for more lore heavy content. Especially considering the ending of that trailer that I still am not over yet. Does anybody know what that sound was, or is it something totally new?

Ohhh is there a q&a today?

[rigid mural]

[distant turtle]

I like the description when you return from underground cavern to wind tunnels

Total lore moment

[half shadow]

What is it?

[distant turtle]

I forgot the verbatim description but it is the wind tunnels abandoned routes of the ancient kingdom

[rigid mural]

It changes ? In french, the area (when you come from the Forest social area) is called "The wind pathways" and is described as— yeah that.
So it doesn't change.
Still a big lore moment though.

[distant turtle]

No changes, I simply forgot what it reads precisely

[rigid mural]

Considering the spirit the talented builder helps looks like they are from outside the islands, it might have been a crossroads and maybe even resting stop for boat travellers.

[distant turtle]

The wind pathways seem to have suffered the same decay as the air race

[half shadow]

I’d really like for the Isle Elder to come up, they seem to be all about pathways as they summon the birds and have a lot of boat-themed carvings in their temple

[distant turtle]

I also feel that these 4 spirits were maybe some of the most skilled ever of the ancestor spirits.

[distant turtle]

Yes one of the spirits felt like Isle cutscene vibes. Chime or navigator

Just imagine what the view would be like without mobile game limitations!

[half shadow]

I play on switch primarily myself, I find it a lot easier

I feel like Sky might become more ambitious now with the capability of the Switch and Nintendo partnership

[ivory heath]

i wonder why it looks like that...

[urban rose]

This made me so happy and then b o o m

Sadness

[sharp latch]

The icon for light whisperer kinda looks like that

[hushed steeple]

L o r e

[sharp latch]

I really hope it talks about how they learnt to fly of something like that

Is it just me or does this bird look like the one from rhythm

[open loom]

oh it does

[half shadow]

Probably the same species!

[hushed steeple]

Im thinking the bells ringing is gonna summon more critters like in sanctuary.

Including more rhythm birds eventually.

[ivory grove]

better pics with 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴

[hushed steeple]

So far flight has given us:
•Realms used to be connected by windpaths
•Ayin had an apprentice.
•Ancestors 100% could not fly, and know about skykids hoping that they will aid them at some point.
•They used manta-drawn boats to get around and needed navigators like planes and ships do.
•Creatures of light can be healed with magic light fleck things.
•Birdys

[pale egret]

Who's Ayin?

[sharp latch]

Prairie elder

[hushed steeple]

Sorry. Its the concept art name for Prairie Elder. I kinda just use em interchangeably.

[sharp latch]

• Specialised chimes attract light creatures

[sharp latch]

I wonder what the original purpose of capes were then

[nimble ingot]

I could have sworn it flashes red when the doors are triggered.
However, I never managed to capture this because my mothy assistant is still glaring at me.

[sharp latch]

Ooooooooooo

[nimble ingot]

if you are able to catch it, please do share it.
I will try to do the same.

[hushed steeple]

I never even knew the temple had a wall behind it

[hushed steeple]

O yeah! Im debating on if that was already in TLP and base game: “these bells must be for the creatures” but I don’t think they ever mentioned that its very specific chimes that do it before.

[sharp latch]

Or that different ones attract different creatures

[orchid jolt]

prairie village. Ringing the bells summons the mantas

[orchid jolt]

and in the last part of forest, ringing the bells summons the jellyfish!

And the towers call in isle summon us! (lol)

[rigid mural]

Were these boat remnants here before the update ? Doubt so, I've been looking in this area for boats during LP season and nothing but the oob one...

[orchid jolt]

yesh

[orchid jolt]

well actually, im not sure. They were there before theseason started but i dontthink they were here before the update. I remember noticing a dark patch recently that guided me here

the dark patch was noticed when i was in that large tunnel with a few butterflies that your supposed to use to go up to get out of this area. the patch i could see through the ground and walls. It was apparently something under the clouds on the first pic.

[mental crest]

Beta tester here, (explanation of boat remnant, but spoilers) ||the boat remnant there is part of a Flight season quest||

[rigid mural]

Are you sure it's not just your shadow ? Or the blocked route between the caves and the wind tunnels ?

Beta tester here, (explanation of boat remnant, but spoilers) ||the boat remnant there is part of a Flight season quest|| [@mental crest]
Oh I guessed so yeah.

[orchid jolt]

oh i am 100% sure.

@rigid mural ^ some photos of it

[analog vapor]

Maybe the end of the trailer is something in the quests? I don’t think it’s decor for days of mischief. Maybe an upcoming season about a war or darkness taking over?

[orchid jolt]

Maybe a path to Eden?

[analog vapor]

Ooooo ye probably. Maybe the sky kids opened up a path to eden and u know... Didn’t end up well

[distant turtle]

[orchid jolt]

Or maybe it's opening up a path for the sky creatures to Eden

[analog vapor]

Huh prob

[rigid mural]

Yeah had that as well, I think it's just the shadow model messing up

[distant turtle]

Well now we know how whale-friend gets around

[heady sequoia]

hahhaha i wish

[burnt lynx]

Are headcannons about spirits ok to be shared here?

[orchid jolt]

Well my reasoning is that the birds have been seen flying in the first part of Eden

[analog vapor]

Ye same

[distant turtle]

Always OK

[rigid mural]

Pics by kaomoji on tumblr, but this could potentially mean that where we go through before Orbit is the same place as where we die in Eden.

[burnt lynx]

Ok good to know

[distant turtle]

If it’s a beta image we can’t share that here

[orchid jolt]

Explain 2 and 6
Edit: ok I understand 2, it was in news.
Edit: seriously, where did you get number 6 from? The whole healing with specks of light thing?

[harsh barn]

Hi I'm new to this discord thing. Im in a bit of a pickle ATM. I really would like to get the beta version of Sky.

[rigid mural]

Bro that's not beta,,, 😂
It's the statue in the place you land in after dying & a statue in the very last part of Eden

[icy spruce]

Wrong channel bruh

This aint beta channel

[distant turtle]

lol yeah clearly

[harsh barn]

Oh lol. So this is normal sky lol my bad

I'm so embarrassed

[icy spruce]

It’s okay

[cinder tapir]

thats a nice hc

[rigid mural]

[harsh barn]

@icy spruce k

[icy spruce]

That’s 2017-2018 beta (aka, Sky; Light Awaits)

[harsh barn]

@hushed steeple idk. It's still there sitting saying full so yh Ig it's gone

I thought this game suppose to be relaxing,but after I went to Eden I literally almost died I mean I did die a whole lot from that huge thing ha

[icy spruce]

I mean, Eden is relaxing when you learn how to oob or if you love lore because that place is full of it

[harsh barn]

Yh and That place is scary as hell to me

[orchid jolt]

Well, the end of Eden is probably one of the most calming places for me

[harsh barn]

Oh

[orchid jolt]

The hug feels like the climax of our entire journey, at least to me...

[harsh barn]

I like the hug

[orchid jolt]

tutorial bird

new birds

[rigid mural]

On my first time as a moth, the singing started as the whale destroyed the tower on my way to Orbit, and it was majestic.

But yeah let's push the topic closer to lore, what are your thoughts on that mysterious castle we cross ? Dream version of Eden (kinda like dreamlike Vault) ? Separate building ? Euphemism for ascension ?

[pastel brook]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[harsh barn]

I literally just started playing this game last month yh so I'm still a bit of a newbie

[rigid mural]

WHAT DOES THE KRILL IN YOUR USERNAME MEAN @pastel brook ???
Are we getting a krill in the wind tunnels—

[harsh barn]

I just got some orange wings today. Candles are so hard to get in this games. Especially hearts

[orchid jolt]

no wait, i was about to say something else interesting

old aviary

New way to get around the realms, through tunnels in the clouds (kinda sounds like aviary)

so we have a new TutorialBird-like kind of bird and a new Aviary-like area!

[hushed steeple]

Light whisperers memory. When he heals it theres some dots above it

[harsh barn]

My first account I made last month got messy so I had to start over during this month with my sis. So I have to find all those souls again sighhhhh

[orchid jolt]

hmmm, ill have to recheck that. but it never showed the bird getting healed, just the whisperer putting them on a comfy pillow so they can heal from rest

[harsh barn]

Does anyone here understands the sheet notes

[feral leaf]

There was a tgc stream today they said that the new flight area took inspiration form the aviary as alot of old players liked it

[rigid mural]

That's actually the spirit sparkles lol, stat there looking for the healing sprinkles but I saw the dots right as they dissapeared lol

[hushed steeple]

It might have been....they where kinda yellowy and I thought they stayed there and didnt vanish...

[orchid jolt]

:D Yay i was right!
D: NOOOOOO I MISSED THE STREAM!

[feral leaf]

They spent the stream doing the first quest while telling us a bit about the new spirits :D

[hushed steeple]

And that the navigators favorite ice cream is rainbow sherbert 🌈

[feral leaf]

I remember light whisperer was blue moon and the flight guide was saffron

[hushed steeple]

Saffron ice cream tho??

[feral leaf]

Talented builders was rocky road if I'm not mistaken

What I found really cute is that The said the talented builder is very extroverted and the rest of the spirits look up to them they are sorta a mentor figure to light whisperer

[hushed steeple]

I really loved the light whisperer’s personality tho!
It was so cute. I totally want a friend like that 💯

[feral leaf]

I want them all to give me a hug I think they'd give great hugs

[hushed steeple]

Speaking of the seasonal spirits, there outfits are so warm and cozy

[analog vapor]

Aren’t spirits are just memory? Like we had season of flight come AFTER season of dreams. But what if season of flight had come first... It would make sense cause season of flight doesn’t have advanced tech. They have boats carried by mantas meanwhile in dreams village they have boats carried by... Nothing?

[main finch]

the talented builder and the tinkering chimesmith look like good dads or uncles

[feral leaf]

Well the talented builder I think is the oldest and a mentor figure to all :D

[hushed steeple]

Maybe like some other theories have said, there are two opposing sides people who want to use the advanced tech, or the people who don’t want to use it.
I’m not sure ( and credit to those who came up with the theories hehe )

[analog vapor]

Heheh

[hushed steeple]

Spirits are not just memories. Their memories are just memories but the actual spirit is in current time. Hence: “they waited a long time for someone like you” and them waving and befriending them, and their gazes following you.

[rigid mural]

Can't watch the stream, what did they say 👀
I crave spirit lore
I crave anything lore.... can u spare a crumb

[feral leaf]

Here's what i think from what we know : the flight guide is a apprentice of the Prairie elder , those that live in prairie seem to focus on living life alongside the light creates hence the mantas and butterflies, in the stream today and with Flight guide introduction post on social media they said that flight guide had a vision of a more harmonious life, in the stream they said Flight guide just took their best friends to go live out this dream in the New flight area however in talented builders memories he's seen fixing (or smth like that) a boat that seems to be a darkstone boat and not one of the ones that are pulled by mantas

[hushed steeple]

Lively navigator likes rainbow sherbert ice-cream

[feral leaf]

Adding to this Light whisperer is blue moon
Talented builder is rocky road and flight guide is saffrons I can't remember chimesmiths tho

[rigid mural]

Did they say anything else ?

[hushed steeple]

The lively navigator is a really extroverted and lively person!
Hence the name

[feral leaf]

Yeah :D hold on uh talented builder is like a big teddy bear they are extroverted and all the other spirits look up to them they are a mentor figure to all but especially light whisperer

[hushed steeple]

They also tried to make the new area like the old aviary! They took small details and added them into the flight paths!

[feral leaf]

The spirits are basically a bunch of best friends that left to go live out Their (flight guides) vision of a more harmonious life with the light creatures :D

[rigid mural]

Wish that were me tbh

[feral leaf]

Yeah like imagine going out and living your dream with your best friends that would be awesome

[novel wind]

Wait guys idk if I'm right (not a huge lore person) but did talented builder... build the boat for the pointing candlemaker guy?

[feral leaf]

Almost forgot that the mantas had followed light whisperer to the flight paths :D

[feral leaf]

It might be?

[novel wind]

oh, is it not confirmed? or is the hair like different

[feral leaf]

I am not sure

It probably Is I think tgc tends to use spirits that are already established then throwing In a random spirit we've never seen before

[novel wind]

ah ok, he's my favorite spirit (lmao) so I was extremely confused when I saw him lol

[half shadow]

It looks like it! The hair is the same.

[feral leaf]

My general take is that season of flight took part when darkstone technology was already around it just that the flight spirits choose not to use the technology

[half shadow]

TGC likes to connect the spirits together sometimes. Like in TLP where the soldiers can be seen in the jar scene.

[feral leaf]

Prophecy also had spirits being mentored(?) By the prophets

[novel wind]

oh yeah I heard ab that lol I think it's pretty cool although idk how that makes sense considering the little prince characters are from another universe

[half shadow]

Well either way, spirits show up in other’s memories to show that they are connected. Builder def built/fixed a boat for Pointing, youre right about that.

[frozen halo]

In the official trailer the end credits seem dark with krill noises, what's up with that

[feral leaf]

We don't know we've been theorising that for a while

[half shadow]

Personally, it doesn’t sound like a krill noise to me. It’s less creature-y sounding and moreso reminds me of a storm. But it’s hard to say, nobody knows yet.

[frozen halo]

The few seconds have been going over my mind the whole day, can't wait for TGC to show what they're up to

[feral leaf]

The Devs today in stream said that they know we've been wanting lore and are excited to share alot about it in this and upcoming seasons so..

[frozen halo]

Awesome, good news :)

[novel wind]

dang now I wanna headcannon them as buds although they probably weren't :/ still really cool tho thanks for answering my question (you too Artemis!)

[mellow arrow]

I've now decided to join the lore hype for this season, there's so many things I have to catch up omg-

[feral leaf]

there is a lore doc if you need it has the general run down of canon info and theroies

[half shadow]

You should TOTALLY headcanon them as buds! Pointer seemed very grateful when Builder presented the finished boat to them.

[rigid mural]

I headcanon builder is the skykid's friend

[feral leaf]

Yes i would love to be friends with the big teddy bear :3

[half shadow]

Builder and Nav(igator) are buds in my head. Builder comes from a long line of sailors and ship makers and Nav used to be a sailor.

[feral leaf]

It is canon that Builder and chimesmith work together but the devs today described the group as a bunch of best friends that went off to live together on the islands (paraphrased) so that could be ture : D

[novel wind]

yeah, i feel like every season the spirits are good friends (granted I only started in assembly so uh yeah) except little prince ig but that was a collab season

[high bison]

I think they ended up stranded there bc of the downfall, with caused the storm around Eden and Wasteland, which messed up the wind tunnles

Someone here said the boats are more primitive and pulled by mantas bc the spirits were alive before darkstone and the technology it enabled became more popular

I think because they were stranded, they just had limited resources, and needed to work with what they had (I.e Light Wisperer)

[feral leaf]

I don't really think that's what happened but it's your theory however if you want to read mine :D

[feral leaf]

Here

[high bison]

The two theories could probably fit together @feral leaf

[feral leaf]

True I do believe in your idea that once the storm came that were stuck there hidden and lost to the rest of realms once the flight paths were closed so I can agree on that

[upbeat rampart]

Is it just me or the Saluting Cap'n is saluting the boat which resembles Forgotten Ark one but mini? Were they rescue boats?

[boreal bane]

Has there been any theories about the corrupted wind paths yet?

[feral leaf]

Wdym by that exactly ?

[boreal bane]

In the final part of the season of flight trailer, it cuts off to a clip of the seasonal area but with corruption

[feral leaf]

Ah um some think it might be hinting the next season others think a storm is coming and those that think it's a krill sound they think in one of the quest we open a flight path that allows krill to travel to the flight area or the light creatures to travel to eden or wasteland(that one might be plausible now that I think about it)

Hope gives you some general theories! Uhh feel free to add on your own lol

[rigid mural]

Storm theory is closer to what I think will happen.

[main finch]

maybe flight happened before eden was made? i dont know the general lore about eden,, but i saw someone say smth about rescue boats and i thought that the flight spirits might've helped some spirits get away from whatever's corrupting

[rigid mural]

I think it would be funny if instead of the area ending up being full of life after the quests are entirely finished, we get a snap back to a ruined version of the islands, kinda like Vault brutally snapping you back to reality.

[main finch]

storm theory?

[rigid mural]

This...
Just a big storm going whoosh on all the things we love.

[main finch]

oh man,, that's gonna be a huge shocker for us then fuhbv

[feral leaf]

At least I hope it's just a cutscene man I don't want the new pretty are to be ruined

[rigid mural]

The devs would never do that in a wholesome game, I'm just evil

[feral leaf]

The way you described how the storm would happen I find very funny Vela XD

[rigid mural]

Thank you, I love being funny.

[analog vapor]

Maybe the end of the trailer its referencing the past and how the passageways got broken. Maybe it’s not about a new quest a new season or even. It’s just referencing the past?

[feral leaf]

Perhaps, we can only theorize

[analog vapor]

In one of nastymold’s vid she showed the dark version of the new flight area. Anyone here watches nastymold?

[harsh pecan]

Me

[feral leaf]

Occasionally I have not recently tho

[thin dirge]

Hmm, be aware Nastymold also shares some beta stuff as well. That could either be the old one you watched, or something from the future quest

Hmm, looks like the old version
I still lurked a bit when the first Season testing happened, that looked like the early version

[harsh pecan]

Wait what does the description say?

[analog vapor]

Ye it is. The only full scene of the area. Imma sleep now cya

[feral leaf]

It ends with dissary

[harsh pecan]

Yea that’s the only one i can read

Also into

[feral leaf]

So like uh oh something bad happened during the development of this in beta

[thin dirge]

Pretty sure thats the early version of it... One of the quests would change the lighting of the whole area. But the transition was wonky that ppl thought it was a bug. I think thats the reason why it changed? Seems like this was originally the direction they wanted for this quest...

[harsh pecan]

Oh..

[feral leaf]

Well just have to see where it goes the Devs in stream today kept hyping it up but spoiled nothing not a single bit about what might happen

[thin dirge]

I remember the lighting of the quest got changed at some point due to how weird the transition of the lighting was (it was in the beta notes), but I didn't check back then what it was changed into tho

I think the original plan may have been to have it start all dark and gloomy, like how it was shown in the end of the trailer, but got changed due to technical issues with lighting transition... (Ugh, why does so much good stuff get changed because of technical issues??)

[harsh pecan]

RIP the lore it could’ve had

[feral leaf]

Ah cool makes sense, wait so what does it say now in live

[thin dirge]

Oh, is it the same?

[analog vapor]

Imma check what it says now

[feral leaf]

Interesting, brb U guys can keep talking although rear U said you'd be going to sleep XD

[analog vapor]

,eh I won’t sleep unu. I’ll eat

[hushed steeple]

It gets to be pretty the first time we see it now....

[orchid jolt]

GUYS THATS BETA STUFF

[analog vapor]

I know but that is the only thing we saw about the dark version of the flight area

[stark marten]

Beta content should be kept in the beta channels until it is accessible in the live version. Yes, they teased it a bit in the trailer they posted to youtube, but that doesn't mean that beta spoilers can be posted everywhere without regard for others who don't want to be spoiled

[feral leaf]

This is old beta stuff tho that was changed in live

[upbeat rampart]

I think they were just doing a comparison between current Flight vs Old Flight area