lore-discussion-spoilers

[astral sequoia]

ooooh

[coarse bolt]

Ooh~

[astral sequoia]

the citadel referring to prairie or the large building with the elder in it
or valley and I’m just dumb

[coarse bolt]

It's the place in Valley before the flying race.

With the weird golden circly thing. What is that thing, anyways?

[astral sequoia]

right yes can we get butterfly calls

[lofty rover]

What is popping

[sharp lichen]

Lore chat has finally calmed down

[lofty void]

I think it’s called an Orrery or something, idk

[coarse bolt]

What does it do, though?

[boreal nebula]

the thing in Valley, with the gold rings rotating

[lofty void]

I have absolutely no idea lol

[coarse bolt]

I need to know!!

[coarse bolt]

Just chatting about the Valley citadel.

[boreal nebula]

it reminds of old astronomical tools, used in ancient times to study stars and the passing of seasons

[lofty rover]

Ahh my fav place.

With the astronome? Or something?

[coarse bolt]

Oooh~ That would make sense, since the stars were important to them.

So it's a sort of ancient time telling device? Maybe people could read it like a clock and from that they'd know what the date was.

[boreal nebula]

from the first comment I use in this reply reika started talking about Citadel and slums, but here is the full quote

i can spill some beans on what i was thinking when i made the citadel though
it doesn't have much to do with the actual sky lore itself but--
in my mind, the mountain is kind of like a dormant volcano
or made in abyss if anyone else is also a fan
and the whole tower actually goes all the way down
it's a bit dark, but what you see above the clouds is actually just the tip and its where all the riches live
and the areas under the clouds where the lights dont reach
mainly the inner walls
are kind of like the slum
although there isn't any meshes to show that because its an expensive level HAHA
but yes
its outwardly pretty and extravagant
but it's also supposed to be hiding the slums too
since valley is the peak of civilization
there's also a side to it thats also not pretty
and the tip of the tower that you see
is like the top of the top
so scholars
since technology and knowledge is so valued
and the scholars that reside there uses the the armillary sphere to study the night sky!

[runic flare]

What happened to the grass :’)

[coarse bolt]

It died. (• _ •)

[astral sequoia]

highly suspicious

[coarse bolt]

I hope we get some lore in the fall season. No doubt this season will be useless on that front, since it's about the Little Prince.

[boreal nebula]

~~Attila, king of the Huns, put Salt on it to avoid to to grow back ~~

[boreal nebula]

well, it can give us one thing

the Twins jumpsuit

which means there was a class of athletes like the gladiators

[coarse bolt]

Now you can truly roleplay them. Almost.

[boreal nebula]

We just miss their triangle mask + the whitest wash of that jumpsuit

[coarse bolt]

Do you think they could change the ground of the colliseum? Since it changed after Dreams.

[boreal nebula]

Mmmm. back then it made sense, because the season was in that realm, but after all they recently changed little bits here and there soo, who knows

The intro tunnel in Isle, the passage from Isle to Prairie, retouching something in Eden

[coarse bolt]

Hey, do you think the people during Isle's time were nomadic? Since they had a bunch of tents.

[astral sequoia]

dear god they took the seeds with them

[boreal nebula]

I think they did, many pointed out how the evolution of the civilization can mimic the life-growinup theme showed in the Office walls

[coarse bolt]

In the Switch trailer they also show some of them traveling. Maybe they were making a pilgrimage to the temple? Since it's a place of worship.

[boreal nebula]

so isle is more primitive than prairie, as the kid birth with childhood

It could be,yeah

[coarse bolt]

Wait. Is Forest rainy because teenagers are moody?

[boreal nebula]

Another little lore thing they can give us is the new scholar hat, so maybe we might understand something more about them

[coarse bolt]

Hmm~

[boreal nebula]

I think because they start to find hardships, thus our energy easily drained, but you can have a point too

Sadness was even a theme Assembly, the Lone Scout was left alone after his friends went away (maybe grew ups)

[coarse bolt]

Why do you think the weather is always so rainy there? From the perspective of the civilization. Did something happen to the weather?

Also, crabs first start appearing there.

[astral sequoia]

children dying of starvation and abandonent, yes very sad
that was not sarcasm it was very sad

[astral sequoia]

some people theorize that it has to do with pollution

[distant turtle]

I tend to think that each area is affected by the storm, whether it be just more clouds and wind, or rain and erosion

[dusty iris]

Hi Lore gang what are we talking about

[river tide]

Has the storm always been there?

[thorn flame]

hi i dont really understand the lore of sky but after seeing the nintendo trailer am more interested (ive played the game for a while and have every realm unlocked but i never looked into the story too deeply) so where would i start with that?

[river tide]

I think yesterday we discussed how the boatman looked like an old version of the isle elder and how the manta thing has a spotlight like the krill

[thorn flame]

mantas have spotlights?

[river tide]

Not usually, just the one in the trailer. The domesticated one acting as a ride

[thorn flame]

ohhhhhh

btw do the elders have canon names? ive seen ppl calling them different names so i was wondering where that came from

[river tide]

I don’t think so, some people are pretty certain about a few names relating to the Hebrew alphabet I think???

But that was only included in the concept art

[pale kestrel]

Krill do..

Krill are Dark dragon's, so naturally there'd be light-dragons too. I think of krill as the dark skykid when you lose you energy

[river tide]

Their light version might not look like the krill at all though

[sudden temple]

I'm still catching up on this chat, but I've been seeing a lot of people say that the travellers in the trailer came from Vault to Isle, but I think the video makes it pretty clear that they entered Isle from the same direction we do. They emerge from the same tunnel we go through and arrive at isle looking at the landscape from the same perspective we do upon exiting the tunnel/cave. So that would mean that there used to be a forest in the area where we first spawn into before we go through the cave. That's so cool.
Also, people are convinced that the thing they're riding is a pre-krill, and I like that idea, but I'm not convinced because the size and overall anatomy doesn't seem right to me. I think it's a similar species but not the same.

I'm really fascinated by the bell hermit crabs. They're very unlike current crabs, especially with all of those eyes (if they are eyes.) And the fact that they are carrying bell tops makes me wonder in what order the bells came compared to the crabs. The bells probably came first because hermit crabs pick up a shell to live in, but that raises the question of where they found all of those bells. We don't see any in Isle.

[pale kestrel]

Yeah I think they flew over from another continent

[untold notch]

isn't the text for isle to follow the bells toll or has that been changed

[pale kestrel]

See my theory: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

[river tide]

Or, the sea level used to be lower and there used to be more land before it rose

[untold notch]

love the you are the king theories

[lofty rover]

So was rewatching the trailer and: got some shots and thoughts.

1. We see constellations in the very first scene! That the stars were living in their place in sky properly!
   Hence constellations were defined before they fell! Ans yet we see one constellation rule one realm. So I think there is more to star folk about where they come from. There is a reason certain spirits are in certain constellations and why they chose specific places to reside. (Might have something to do with those giant astroscopes(?) in valley)

2. There exists a deserted area from where the travelling kids come. We see a lamp mid desert set by travellers as they approach a "midnight sun"

3. The kid is riding a flying animal and get is absolutely fascinated by mantas and it's as if the kid wants to reach them/ fly like them. Hence they can't really fly is what I believe and the ambition is foreshadowing

4. (Sorry for the bad shot lmao)
   We see them trying to turn on the lights and it goes berserk. Cause they can't control it well yet.
   The light bugs spill out and scare literally every thing every creature.

Also they look like premature butterflies.

5. As the crab(?) hide we see yellow shrooms but the thing is there are these blue ones sprouting as soon as the butterflies pass

[warm eagle]

(slight interjection.. just noticed from your screenshots that the blue mushrooms are the colour of the dark plants we burn now) sorry sorry carry on Resh this is intriguing

[lofty rover]

What I also noticed is these kids are seeing the new world for the first time.
They have began colonising for sure. But even they show all the signs of "negative" possible things that we expected the star folk to have done

At first I got the impression that these natives were light benders and all and star folk couldn't use light and wrecked it all.
But on second watch I felt they began what starfolk continued.

Yet they are pretty different from starkind. They certainly resemble elders.

So I will still maintain that the elders are from the original race and the star kind fell and colonised a already colonised place.

The ark spirits looked like star kind so yes they were star kind. They were probably the merchants that didn't change much. They sold the items between the two sides probably or went hunting for or possessed the items of older ancestors and traded them

It is also possible that there is a world different from sky.. where they came from and where ark went for supplies. Where the remaining ancestor folk shifted to after stars came and conquered

I maintain king is king of star kind. GW probably was king's strong hold and place of extreme influence which would make sense that ark is there now cause there are no old ancestors there.

I think the last star that fell is probably the first sky kid. The sky kid now developed ability to use the light.
Old ancestors used light bugs which we saw turned to butterflies by star folk.
Light manipulation was evolving.
And by us it's a level where we did achieve flight like this kid in trailer wanted

So even though there exist different species the goal was more or less a bit aligned.
To become like the flying mantas and light creature manipulation.

There methods may have been the cause of rift. Leading to disagreements and wars.
A possible end justifies means vs means justify end kinda deal

So like a nature sustained yet light achieved vs juice the mantas

I also maintain the fact that elders all have reactions to us having achieved the light. And then coming back to them. It's the very thing that destroyed worlds and they saw things getting waay too bad.
Their reactions are to this kid that resembles the other tribe and them a bit and having achieved the very ambition that caused it all

[boreal nebula]

It might be pollution or maybe the Elder a forecast witch (controlling rain and thunders 👱‍♀️ 🔨 ), but it could be perfectly natural
Irl the trees change their microclimate, making it cooler with their shades and rain can usually happen when warm and cool streams meet, as if the trees try to trigger the cloud to feed them, or at least get more chances to have rain (looking at you, Rainforest)

[lofty rover]

Eden is okay meaning things were still in balance. And now my doubts are stronger that they slapped a diamond to fix stuff

Spirits that fell just took their ambitions waaaytoo far

[thorny garden]

Heya people
What y'all talkin bout I wanna join

[lofty rover]

Also low key thinking that kid may be king. (Or atleast an early leader of fly movement)

(I am lore dumping my thoughts)

[hushed steeple]

Maybe the child of light, as foretold by the prophecy.

[thorny garden]

Am level mode infinite confusion
Someone give some large context on what's going on

[lofty rover]

Child of light is us I think. Cause we see all these star folk attempting the trials and not succeeding cause they couldn't control light.

[lofty rover]

It's the switch trailer you can find it in the pins

[thorny garden]

Oh okay

[lofty rover]

I hope that helps lmao cause thats what I am lore dumping on :3

[thorny garden]

Also I have theory on how the game reflects the real life

[boreal nebula]

@lofty rover It's all pretty interesting

[hushed steeple]

True an embodiment of us in this unique journey... to restore the light.

[lofty rover]

The whole thing is .. humanoid things yearned manta powers and light.

And then star folk fell (and ohhhh booooy that is going to be a huge lore on its own I am calling it right now) and they were all.. Kay let's join this party then

What we see is star descendants (?) / left spirits trying to make use of a dying civilisation left to them.
They hope to break from this world frozen in time.

[clear granite]

i just saw the trailer-... BRO THIS IS FIRE

[hexed silo]

ma'am do us a favor and just put this in a funky book because all your theories are good

[lofty rover]

I uh.. thank you (shy)

[clear granite]

not me greedily reading all the theories and taking screenshot to read later

[lofty rover]

Also I sus that the whole realm with specific time of day is a reason why they are like that. They have been deliberately frozen at that specific time.
And uh.. damn it I am blanking out too many thoughts.

I have mild doubts that diamond tech was not native and pretty much star kind trademark. But then again I am not sure since I definitely think the kids and elders look similar. (The long hair kid is practically baby Teth/Forrest unni)

Each realm right now is stuck in a state of day/ mind. Yes they have goods and bads but doesn't change they are frozen in that time spirits included.
Elders are sneeping for sure. And they hold powers to ascend.
Also interesting how seasonal leaders could ascend without temples meaning star folk could gain that power but not enough to elder

Also these people are not pure creatures of light!
Hence they envied the mantas and wanted it.
They played with life and hence the whole chain of life and death (Eden) got off balanced.
The Eden storm or whatever is because they are playing with actual life.
Bet they slapped a factory there to juice the power of ascending creatures or something.
Which wrecked stuff.
They put diamond but it needed a light source which we gave.

Voila baking soda volcano of ascension

Also I think star folk had their own thing going on in the skies. They will have more drama I am calling it right now.

I guess I ran out of juice and I need to cr cause broke.
So that's all for now?
Gonna rewatch it a few times and may come up with something else entirely lmao.
Happy thinking Lore :3

[eternal totem]

There are two different symbols on the shields in battlefield, does that reflect the war between the natives and the stars?

[uneven stag]

i think so

also, have we seen starfolk before?

[eternal totem]

Ah no, that’s more of a theory than anything

[lofty rover]

Starfolk= stars that fell

Probably current spirits or their ancestors

Also yes I sus the two shields are two sides too

[thorny garden]

Wanna hear everyone?

As you can see
Isle of dawn is all about the new players and baby steps and things
Just like when human babies are born, they learn, play, have fun and etc

Next is daylight prairie
Daylight is really fun and cozy (pun intended) thought there are some tiny little dangers (the crabs and the geyser water) but you can easily learn how to avoid the dangers, plus you can meet new friends on the way!

Next the hidden forest
Hidden forest is slightly dangerous cus of the poison rain ( whenever it rains in the real world and people who are out can get sick ) there are crabs and poisonous rain, and if you stand in the rain for TOOO long your wing light will start disappearing (yk what I mean) and it can end us but if you lose only a bit of wing light you will be fine and recover (just like when cold people get recover from the cold )
And there are shelters you can stay in! (And irl if people are hella kind they will let you in they're house until the rain stops )

Next is valley
Valley isn't dangerous at all
It's all fun!
There is snow, races, a friendly yeti and many more!
It's adventures like people in real life who want to explore

Next is golden wasteland..
Everything is sad, broken, dangerous, things that can kill you
Like in the real world there are many things (which am not gonna list) that can kill you, the world might be all fun and games but it's not
Like the real world and golden wasteland have so many similarities like krills
But in the real world
There is sharks, venomous snakes, tigers, lions, killer whales and many more dark things

Next is vault
Vault is about learning and hard work (prob idk how to explain it) just like in real life
You have to work hard for your money and learn hard to get a good paying job (somethin like that)

And the game sky focuses on marine life
In the home space you can a tiny pond kind of thing that has fishes on them and the home space is in a whole entire ocean
Just like Isle of dawn and the trial of water and somewhat ice trial
But in golden wasteland the lakes are black and covered in bad things
Like people throw their trash and plastics in the ocean/lakes and etc
And nothing can live in the golden wasteland lakes
And no marine life can live in such dirty water

Next is.. ||eye of Eden||
One of the most dangerous realms..
Every single human/child of light has died/fallen in ||Eden||
And in the real world people die from alot of things...

Now that's my theory on how sky reflects the real world

Ik ik it's one of the most dumbest theory and longest and boring theory

[unreal dragon]

It’s really nice

[thorny garden]

Eeee thanks @unreal dragon

I hope everyone enjoyed my theory :'D

[clear granite]

we did 👁️👄👁️

i'm really starting to be interested about the sky lore, i think i will come her more often to read a bit

[nimble swan]

I wanna see how the sky switch trailer impacted the lore 👀

[nimble swan]

Woah

[sullen axle]

ok i came to see lore flood because of the nintendo game trailer but i guess im too late huh?

[nimble swan]

Same

[sullen axle]

pathetic

[nimble swan]

Hmm

[sullen axle]

OK OK AAAAAAA FIRST THING CAME T MY MIND IS
the boy in the trailer is actualy saluting firesticc guy in gw

As you see, the kid is a traveler
so does the saluting guy, since he is a sailor

[nimble swan]

rewatches trailer to see haircut

I cant unsee it now

[sullen axle]

sdfghjk
but yea dude, he could be
we can releat the guys in the trailer to spirits since it says "Bfore stars fell", which means possibly when those spirits were alive

[obtuse igloo]

I know our skykids are made of light, but reading upwards in the chat about starfolk does that mean the pre-everything-being-screwed-up kids are biological? Are they the same or diffrent races or maybe a mix??

[sullen axle]

I think spirits were just like us, humans
we can see in vault that they can also die (in praying lady's room)

[sullen axle]

Sky kids are comleetly different race than spirits. First of all, their reason to come to sky kingdom is returning light. So like they are not like humans, they dont grow nor die.

[slate saffron]

The game devs actually based the design of each realm alot on the 7 stages of life (newborn, child, teenage, etc)!

[sullen axle]

They came to fix everything, which means they werent existant before that idiot resh guy yeeted everything

[obtuse igloo]

ALSO ALSO

THIS DUDE

pre krills? good krills? I wanna think that they are krills but our krills lost thier light. Kinda like we do if we stand in the rain, but the krills wanna get back the light but monching on sky kids isnt enough i suppose

[slate saffron]

E x c u s e m e ?

[obtuse igloo]

the fact it has a mouth is so cool and terrifies me

[thorny garden]

So my theory was right after all

[nimble swan]

Mamta krill ;-; or idk. I wanna see it some time in game xD

[sullen axle]

IM NOT SORRY YOU MONARCHIST
WAIT THAT SOUNDED WRONG IM SORRY YK WHAT I MEANT

[thin frost]

i think we named them "Light krills" because they dont look like whales or mantas

[slate saffron]

HERETIC

[nimble swan]

Fair enough.

[obtuse igloo]

reminds me of that longggggggg boi in the high levels of the vault, maybe just the dead light krills spirits v i b i n

[nimble swan]

Light and Dark dragons 👀 i wonder...

[sullen axle]

REJECT THAT KENG
RETURN ORBIT

[thin frost]

yes, that's a possibility

[nimble swan]

What caused darkness anyways... And the fall of the stars

Or is darkness already a given because of light?

[thin frost]

sky kids always exist, but we are like Sky kids 2.0

[slate saffron]

YOU'RE JUST MAD THAT HE'S SO COOL >:(

[obtuse igloo]

did all the structures deteriorate becuase of neglect or the fact that the starfolk fell into them XD

[sullen axle]

HE IS A FRICCIN SIGNAL TOWER

[nimble swan]

Sounds painful falling into those xD

[thorny garden]

Lol chaos

[slate saffron]

YEAH, A SIGNAL TOWER OF RAW AMAZING-NESS AND M I G H T

[nimble swan]

Many words :worryEyes:

[thin frost]

just a question for you @sullen axle @nimble swan @obtuse igloo @thorny garden ... are you from other country that is not england or usa? because the people i met here is mayority from there

[thorny garden]

I'm from India dear

[obtuse igloo]

US

[nimble swan]

Ye

[thin frost]

ok

[obtuse igloo]

I do like the theory that traveler kid became the king

[thin frost]

ok

[obtuse igloo]

but that also means he made things all wack

[thorny garden]

Guys guys should TGC make a new realm?

[thin frost]

ok

[nimble swan]

Depends.

[obtuse igloo]

Thats a lotta work doh

[sullen axle]

im not from usa or england

[thorny garden]

Yea

[hazy cliff]

I think it wouldn’t add up to the lore... but it’d be cool

[obtuse igloo]

new home portal, linking the realm next to it up, adding constallations, d e b u g

[thin frost]

idk. another place in a realm, yes. another realm? for that I think that they would have to close the game for days to have the new realm without bugs and that things

[thorny garden]

Yea but uh anyways
Let's change the subject :D

[obtuse igloo]

proof that traveler kid and sky kids are diffrent races

||THeY hAvE fInGeRs||

[nimble swan]

T h e 🐛

[sullen axle]

they can make an underwater level before isle of ding dong to represent before birth, which can be reachable after first eden run

[sullen axle]

laughs in boogie dance kiddo

[thin frost]

did you read my mind?

[thin frost]

we have fingers too... but they are transparent like the fingers of The Powerful Girls

[obtuse igloo]

on n o

[sullen axle]

Here is what that dude did
ehem
1-He existed, mother orbit mercied all of the spirits and send them to the earth, giving each of them a body so they can be themselves and do the goods
2-He became keng
3-He helped the light industry to grow
4-no matter what

after this, i start to hateing him

[obtuse igloo]

we have h ä n d and then a thumb

[sullen axle]

5-He helped the big diamond thing to made
6-Diamond thing become nucleer bomb i guess and made the time stop, killed everyone
7-He got corrupted (idiot signal tower)
8-He became the stormitself and yeeted everything, and his beloved people (pathetic)

[hushed steeple]

Hum

[obtuse igloo]

bet the red rain is pieces of the diamond shattering

[hushed steeple]

Current theory for King timeline, Kamconian ver.

•Prince is an important part of the elders,they all watch over rebirth cycle
•Someone makes a mistake, and the Elders fall, long before the rest of the stars fall.
•Prince is taken in by two spirits and the other elders begin to continue ascending spirits to orbit from the ground.
•Prince is prophesied to enter the trials, so he does, and wins them, along with their elements.
•Prince gives the elements to the elders, and activated eden beam.
•The kingdom has a King and everything is great.
•Prince begins using forbidden darkstone to boost technology.
•Prince becomes self conscious and builds a false body.
•The realms begin to corrupt as darkstone production sacrifices a lot of light.
•The diamond in the beam overheats/malfunctions/over consumes and explodes eden castle, creating the storm.
•King’s false body is destroyed, he is left small and alone to face his actions and has no choice but to rebirth.
•His soul is used for a new race to rescue the trapped spirits and reinhabit the land for their own.

[obtuse igloo]

oooooo

[thin frost]

so the Prince suffer karma...

[trail oyster]

it was a bug apparently.

[hushed steeple]

I remember that. Its actually part of proph mural, turned on its side and stashed in sanct while they worked on the at the time, new season.

[thorny garden]

Also I have theory on why the trials are important to the player/us
Trial of water is all about patience and trying (all the realm are about trying and never giving up) you have to be patient to complete golden wasteland and finding all the spirits/ts it also looks like the valley races are also about patience

Trial of earth is about tenacity
Like golden wasteland and KIND OF vault

Now ice trial is all about PAIN- jk
Ice trial is about Harmony and heights
Vault and prairie is also about Harmony and heights prairie is full of calmness and harmony and the sanctuary has huge moutains and you have to climb/fly up to the moutain
Vault is about patience (somewhat) harmony and heights
Vault has alot of floors 1 to 7 seven floors and you have to light alot of candle thingys to get up to the top
Isle is also included here
Isle have the mout fuji and it takes patience to get up there and when you get up there it feels like heaven, relaxness and ofc harmony

Now trial of fire is about Bravery
Two realms are added here golden wasteland and ||eye of Eden|| golden wasteland has alot of krills that can you kill you, but if your brave and strong enough to get out safe/or even injured but got out of there you have mastered the skill of bravery and strength
||Eye of Eden|| is also about Bravery many many people have fallen here.. but atleast they were brave enough to enter Eden

And that's my theory it's kind of cringe and confusing so um yea sorry..

[obtuse igloo]

I know what you're talking about, the video is by antlerKid and I saw it in the video. heres a screenshot from it

either friendly vibin or eden and wasteland started a war-

[thorny garden]

And behind the Eden elder are the other elders?

[obtuse igloo]

yep

[thorny garden]

They def started a war for sure
They have hated each other in the past

[trail oyster]

ok. so this is what i gathered. So i think that ultimately there were once spirits all living in the kingdom as people, and after they died (as seen on the graves their souls are around thereish) they'd eventually get ascended to megabird by the spirit elders, as they "shepherded light" and spirits are described as "lost lights", and i will assume "lost" can have two meanings. 1. They are literally lost because for some godforsaken reason the elders can't shepherd them anymore. and 2. They are lost, as in, their lives are lost. they're dead. Anyway, so as the stars fell, as winged lights were previously referred to as stars, the winged lights are stars. If you look carefully in the place before the rebirth gate, in the sky, some of the stars give the same twinkle as winged lights do. I think that we should leave out outfits and also leave out candle wax, because ultimately i think they're just in-game stuff to keep people interested and the cosmetics and yeah we were meant to stay as moths. I think that the reason why we can fly higher as we get more winged lights is because the stars want to ascend and so the force of attraction to megabird are greater. If you observe, in orbit, we have a limit of only 7 wing wedges, which makes sense as without wing buffs, the maximum amount of wings you can get are 7 wedges. Wing buffs, cosmetics, and season OCCURENCES are all not part of the lore. The seasons are not part of the lore in the way that they are called seasons, however i would rather refer to them as things that reveal little snippets of the lore. I won't delve into why the elder's couldn't shepherd the light anymore, but it'd gotta be something to do with "the storm" which basically explains the whole reason why the golden wasteland is as it is and eden too, but that's a theory for something else. btw i'm not done i've just reached the word limit

[obtuse igloo]

That would explain the absolute mess in wasteland

But is it because eden stepped outta line or wasteland found him not worthy to rule

[hushed steeple]

Tsad-uhhh I mean GW elder. Anyway. Hes holding the spear and the sun shield. Both are seen in the battle field, paired with the sword and the diamond shield. Meaning he would be holding something from both sides.

[trail oyster]

so anyway, after the stars fell and the storm came, the corrupt creatures all came and therefore the spirits couldn't guide themselves. In the early versions of the game, you'd lose stars as well as spirits, which would explain why spirits basically were grounded at some point because of all the dark creatures, which by the way can be found basically everywhere in sky. rain counts in this category too and if you look carefully when you're relieving the umbrella spirit if you stay too long in the rain the light fades out. so we were essentially made by megabird to act as a shepherd. Why megabird couldn't do it himself, i'm not entirely sure, but i don't understand gods. About the rebirth gate, I originally thought it had nothing to do with the lore, but now that i think of it, there were essentially thousands of spirits and stars that needed ascending. If it weren't for in game limits, we'd constantly have to ascend them all. And by the way, I'm gonna keep the existence of friends as between theory and game because there's a lot of things to friends on both sides, but for now i'm gonna keep it solo. So it makes sense. Also, get rid of homespace that has nothing to do with the lore.

[thorny garden]

Yes oh and don't forget
The Eden king was really really powerful
Powerful enough to make those creatures
Krills and fire trial creature
Poisonous water
And poisonous rain in forest

[nimble ingot]

Not sure about the that.
Spear and round sheilds are consistent with the temple's side of the fight and then the other side were using diamond sheilds and blades.

[obtuse igloo]

maybe eden elder went insane and the rest were tryna protecc. Remind me of the "who broke it"

who broke eden elder?

[thorny garden]

LOL YEA
But Eden elder was insane

[thorny garden]

The sky Dev's: def not me

[trail oyster]

there's obviously beef between the tank and the eden elder but I wanna know why the elders are just calmly watching and not doing anything. I think they're siding with tank boi here

[broken forge]

“i’m sorry but i saw tank elder near them la-“

[hushed steeple]

That mural is just a piece of this one though

[obtuse igloo]

I dont think they wanna get involved with-whatever the hecc is going on

[thorny garden]

Kay y'all
Am a head out
PEACE

[obtuse igloo]

perhaps defeating the elders in a battle was more trials for eden elder

[somber vigil]

with the new nintendo switch trailer showing off life before the stars fell, it got me thinking that sky is actually just a dying universe and thats why the stars are falling. all the spirits we see and the elders? could very well be from generations ago. we are the dying stars viewing the lives before us

and i was also thinking that before the stars fell, the people couldve viewed the stars in a spiritual way and the sky in general, dubbing the children "sky children"

ik this theory is very Out There.... but it makes sense to me lol

[nimble ingot]

I can get behind that, I recall a mention from a titter post that says the elder are not in their temples now.
So it implies they would be in a version of their temples that a ancestor can only access spiritually, or the elders were in their temples once in the past/future, but not in the present.

[somber vigil]

i think itd also explain why theres so little explanation for lore,, as it has probably lost its meaning through generations of retelling

[trail oyster]

but then again, where is the eden elder. and what is the link between eden and our instruments. They're the same symbol. Actually, no. It's not the symbol of eden. It's the symbol of The Light. If you look carefully, they're the same symbol, except one is more simplified. I think the reason why there's that link is because it sort of represents our individualism, however as i said earlier, this has nothing to do with the lore, and is perhaps just a clue that the devs left. If you look carefully too, the light is ultimately leading to the rebirth gate well that area anyway, which has led me to believe that megabird is both god and the eden elder. I will continue about the gods

[nimble ingot]

That may be true.
It is also possible that some of the lore was changed when the devs decided to head in a different direction and have been adapting the lore ever since.
Also to ensure the lore remains open to interpretation, they had to make sure the mystery persists in the game and would reveal itself as players explore more of the world..

[mint widget]

jacky ur theory is sooooooo awesome and good i love it this is the theory ever so true jacky

[plucky arch]

There's an eden elder?!?!!

[trail oyster]

as you can see in the mural, i will assume that the other elders are in favor of overthrowing the eden elder/megabird maybe. I have a theory that ultimately, megabird has a sort of duality, or even multiple manifestations like brahmin in hinduism. This was his power hungry side, and perhaps megabird exploited the fact that the elders were shepherding lights to THE light (megabird) and decided to use them for his own advantage, hence creating the sort of technology that you can see throughout sky out of souls (if you look carefully the power crystals are the same shade of blue as the spirits, and so are the small diamonds, which are the same shade of yellow as the winged lights). the stars ultimately falling would be megabird putting the ascended lights and spirits back down into the world of sky in the form of power crystals, and perhaps this lack of light and balance is what led to the storm. in the intro "if only they had listened", perhaps this is not megabird speaking, but rather just a third person account of what happened. If only the elders had realised what megabird was doing, then the storm could have been avoided. Ultimately I think megabird was defeated, but this was only his power hungry side, and we can see some signs of regret and maybe forgiveness in the elders, however the bitterness is still there (the forest mama knows we're on megabird's help, but her actions are very reluctant. She snatches the light. Treats it roughly too. same goes to valley elders.) The sun shields are probably unsimplified versions of the eden symbol

[trail oyster]

sort of, but at this point it's kinda theoretical but based on the mural, yes

[hushed steeple]

There has never actually been a story though...just little pieces of something that might have been a hint if you squint at it hard enough.

[obtuse igloo]

wait wait- megabird?

[trail oyster]

basically sky god. What it was originally called. If you see in the early beta versions of the game he was called megabird

[obtuse igloo]

XD best name 10/10

[hushed steeple]

“Prince and king still play an integral part to skys story, just maybe not in the way you might think.” Paraphrased from lore doc. Something like that.

[trail oyster]

yeah, that's why we're here, to piece it all together

[trail oyster]

who made the lore doc though. at this point everything's pretty much a theory

[hushed steeple]

Im here to cherry pick the parts I like to make a tasty highly picky lore pie

[trail oyster]

yeah. I'm trying to piece bits together to fit my theory but there's quite a lot of stuff but ultimately i think it's just a bunch of regret and power hungriness and perhaps selfishness and mistrust

[hushed steeple]

The doc is a compilation of dev quotes. Its as canon as it gets, which is to say, anything in it can be dropped at any second.

[trail oyster]

it makes sense, but there are a lot of missing pieces, so i may or may not scrap my theory along with the others, but this is the best i can make

[somber vigil]

[goes back to dying universe theory] ok what if eden elder doesnt want to die so theyre fighting back and want to be closest to the sky as possible, creating the hellscape that is eden

[plucky arch]

Wait I have 1 question. Are the seasons Canon?

[trail oyster]

hmm yes. But i guess everything is a creation of megabird so technically we are the children of megabird so megabird is king and we are prince that serve the king kinda like the relationship between legolas and thranduil go watch the hobbit if you don't get what i mean we run megabird's errands now because legit noone trusts this guy (last part is based on my theory)

[lofty rover]

Just popped to add before i absolutely forget.
What we see is after the war is done and dusted.
It's just a dying place and it has been like that for some time.
People have adapted to krills. And all there in left.
I will probably expand this later cause too sneepy. Sorry to whoever I am interrupting aaa byeeeee

[pastel brook]

[trail oyster]

i feel like in the natural sky world there wouldn't be seasons by the seasons reveal little snippets of the lore

[hushed steeple]

The seasons stories are canon, but the details in them can be flexible. Like having sunglasses when glass does not exist.

[trail oyster]

they can't adapt everyone's dead

[somber vigil]

glass from golden wasteland sand

[lofty rover]

... before they died and got stuck in that unascended state

[graceful osprey]

i just watched the switch launch promo and i feel dizzy. a lot of juicy lore

[trail oyster]

yeah, we're gonna have to sift through the wishlist and ideas to separate stuff but i think there's no sunbathing because i don't want to see a sunburnt blue person that's cursed

[hushed steeple]

I always took Megabird as the one like, looking at post storm prince “siiigh, ok boy you messed up but you can still be the next generation anyway because you repented or something I dunno”

[trail oyster]

The promo is a bit creepy, but i think it representss the fall very well

I feel like if you look at the tank really carefully you can see that though he's like this big warrior and stuff you can see that he clearly sees quite a lot of regret. His kingdom is ultimately still left in ruins and I guess that maybe he's thinking "i really should have just given megabird a good talking to instead of nearly yeeting him out of existence"

[mint widget]

SOO TRUE YED

[trail oyster]

because so far, while you see all the elders as manifestations i think megabird's physical form has been destroyed but he still exists like in a weird star form

[hushed steeple]

Im not used to Mega being considered the same as Resh. Neat idea but also I keep getting confused, sorry.

[trail oyster]

look at the constellations near the rebirth gate. Idk what shape they are but it looks a bit like a bird

[plucky arch]

Who is resh???

[nimble ingot]

It is cape

[hushed steeple]

Sorry, Resh is the triva name for the King. The Eden Elder.

[plucky arch]

Oh

[trail oyster]

oh yeah. And resh's symbol also looks a lot like the symbol for The Light so probably barricades or ways to mark their territory. Resh's symbol is above eden too (I want a closet shaped like eden gate i'm sorry but I really do) So yeah i think it's megabird

[hushed steeple]

Its not canon name. Just for fun. From concept arts.

[trail oyster]

no i don't mean the skykid constellation i mean the curvy one

[plucky arch]

Where's matpat when you need him lol

[graceful osprey]

wull tell more tomorrow got some very interesting details

[hushed steeple]

Talking about silly things like if mario is a muderer for the 500th time

[plucky arch]

Trueeeeeee

[lofty rover]

I think you didn't mean Brahmin which is a caste.

[graceful osprey]

the realism in the trailer was a little disturbing ngl. makes me feel that sky has changed so much

[coarse bolt]

Realistic is not always better imo.

[pale kestrel]

Extremely late reply lol, I oobed above the clouds then went into the whole leading into this area and fell so fast (due to the wind) that I was out of camera view, also the room was glowing yellow at the time which is why it looks spooky

[nimble ingot]

all good. It just looks different than how I am used to seeing it.
Also, the yellow light thing in the room, I have seen it every now and again. I assume that is a bug.
Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.

[haughty talon]

Yellow light was supposed to be a way to get the attention of the player and kind of make them wanna go there. The light should go Off at some point during ur ascent so that by the time u reach there it is no longer there in that room. Most often the bug happens when players fly directly (instead of walking up) to that room.

[pale kestrel]

Yeah I've seen it like four times

[pale kestrel]

I walked... 👀

[nimble ingot]

oh? Then I will take note of my routes, it happens even if I walked or flew.

There must have been a trigger that I am missing.

[haughty talon]

May be it gets triggered off when we take a particular path that the devs assumed most would take?

[nimble ingot]

What I mean by trigger, there should be a hit box somewhere for the player to trigger things.
I am not an expert though think the one that should turn the off the 'brights' is not in a spot that guarantees the player would have to trigger to progress (even if they were using the intended route), or the light does not go off even if the player triggered it. Either way, it is a minor bug.

[thorny garden]

And am back

Is anyone alive here?
Or am I the only who survived

[nimble ingot]

still here.

I am deciphering the sky language in the old concept art.

[tender scarab]

Ngl there's a lot of lore I really wanna know but idk where to start reading can someone help

[nimble ingot]

start with the questions you want to know.
I stuck around and just read along till I learned enough to add to the conversation.

It is open to interpretation after all.

if you want visual art lore, have a look at the amazing artist, Tom Zhao.
Also the old Twitter posts of TGC.
Here is one I am looking at if you want to check it out: https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1284977315861037057?lang=de

[tender scarab]

Ah thank you okay, I started getting interested cus I heard there's lore in the Nintendo trailer but now I'm just confused cus I don't know what the trailer was showing XD

[dense fractal]

hello lore chat!

[nimble ingot]

Ah, welcome aboard!
Personally, that trailer is the best looking one the game ever published!

[tender scarab]

So what I gotten so far is sky kids have to help bring the spirits back to the sky which is what that place was after Eden right? How did they fall in the first place?

[hushed steeple]

Theres also this. Compilation of dev comments we call the canon lore document. Just some useful tidbits. https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE

[nimble ingot]

Something happened and then skykids were being send down.
One theory is that the megabird is sending the skykids down to help the elders, gather the winged light and then deliver them to the fallen (the statues) in eded so they can ascend to orbit and be reborn to do it again.

[nimble ingot]

Know you dont have to rush or anything. Go along at your own pace. 🙂

[hushed steeple]

We don’t know why they fell yet. The old Japanese translation of the intro included “the spirits that made the mistake” who knows what that means. The rest of the stars falling might have been because of eden exploding.

[dense fractal]

that "something happened" is my most favorite thing to speculate about. when the murals say " the stars fell" some think that the stars simply just fell and corrupted the land, others think it might've been the prince/king eden, some think it was the elder's fault as to why the kingdom of sky was falling apart. it's such an open topic that disucssing everyone's thoughts about it sparks joy in me~ and it's also new every time!

(just had to share eep)

[hushed steeple]

personally I don’t think the devs actually know either, or perhaps just recently decided why, thats our secret ok?

[dense fractal]

i plunged waaay too deep in theorizing about what happened to eden , WE need more content for it though

[nimble ingot]

I said 'something happened' to stay neutral.
my theory, is the megabird or some entity was watching over the elders as they lived in the stars, then the elders fell into darkness and/or the ancestors (the spirits) did not listen (either broke into war, broke their vow or something) and then eden was lost.
Years later, the megabird decided to send down the sky kids to help guide the spirits back to the temple and also find the fallen stars, that are the winged light, and bring them home, which for them would be orbit.

[dense fractal]

for me I'm split between two theories (text wall coming up!!)

[hushed steeple]

Anyway here is the list of 100% confirmed, undeniable, solid completely infallible lore:

     The stars fell.

[nimble ingot]

Eden is now the only realm that has not gotten a season that involved it.
There might be one some day.

I get why they dont want to confuse players with an ending to the open ended lore, though I am starting to understand what long running veterans have to work with.
It would be fun to have a season that seems simple to the average player, though if a player that completed all the other areas of the game before, they get to access a special area that sort of becomes the next chapter or possible ending!
Although that would literally and figuratively be the end game for Sky.

[hushed steeple]

Ult gift Eden Crown

[dense fractal]

1.) the elders (at this point of the story) were already learning how to use the light as fuel for resources and transportation like boats, power diamonds to unlock doors, manta food (far fetch but could be possible) and light so they could ward off the darkness at night. as they gradually took from the light, the stars no longer held enough power to emit it and thus they fell. as soon as the stars fell it led to it corrupting the land, the creatures surrounding it, and the water. the elders knew they screwed up, so megabird instructed them to find a solution to stop the kingdom of sky from falling apart, and to think of better ways to create renewable energy of light than to simply take it out from the stars. so this one was purely unintentional but they still screwed it up.

2.) the elders were killing off darkness creatures. in earlier concept art we see dark versions of children/moths together with light moths. i think that there was supposed to be balance between them, but the spirits/elders hated darkness, which is why they were one by one trying to make sure that they weren't spreading anymore darkness around civilization. the imbalance of nature caused the stars to fall because, as a famous quote implies, stars can't shine without darkness , which could also mean the stars could no longer function properly when darkness was being eradicated.

[hushed steeple]

Arn’t the stars people though? People fell. You gotta put the people back up in the sky.

[nimble ingot]

their spirits get to ascend with you to orbit. The old name for winged light are stars.

[dense fractal]

i hope for an eden season! or atleast concept art and more context about it from devs~

i honestly thought (when i was a moth) that once you've completed eden, you'd get to see what happened to the kingdom, or atleast get transmitted to a world where spirits still existed just to fill in the gaps. to my surprise we were only given the cutscene we now see today. I'm not complaining though, the gray area gives us the opportunity to figure it out and work with the community to decipher possible endings and how everything happened. eitherway i still hope they add more content for eden! i really wanna know (and i assume everyone does) what that place was supposed to be like pre-corruption

[dense fractal]

so the elders were basically taking light from ... dead people?

[nimble ingot]

The best part of a first play through is the message saying, 'The real Journey starts here'
You get this after finishing eden for the first time and you claim the first winged light in the dark room.

[hushed steeple]

THERES A MESSAGE SAYING WHAT

[nimble ingot]

straight up, Strike me if I am a lair:
https://youtu.be/nMrVJMrtkUQ?list=PLOYhTR9CeGo7-vBSRa0hC7TSFxtvHQX_d&t=883

[dense fractal]

YES I SAW THAT AND UNTIL NOW I'M CONFUSED— SECOND JOURNEY??

[hushed steeple]

Oh! I don’t remember that on my first playthrough! BUT I COULD HAVE FORGOTTEN.

[nimble ingot]

light comes from light creatures and the environment, the spirits may have died because of what happened with the elders, though I dont think the elders used spirits for powers.

[stone reef]

Hold up
If light wax originally came from flowers then why does it come from candles now?
How did the candles even get there?

[hushed steeple]

Prolly comes from light based things in general. When light flows through flowers, it gives back light maybe?

[dense fractal]

you make a fair point! that's a good theory.

[nimble ingot]

nope, the game has a way of looping on itself. You being reborn is part of the game's progress, not its ending.
So you experiencing the end of your last playthrough, you can now share your knowledge and experience with new players.
The game focuses on players helping each other afterall.

[dense fractal]

that makes sense.

[stone reef]

the old crab species look like tiny guardians from botw no cap

Also following up on the theory that the realms were completely different than what they are now
I think wasteland was probably a seaside city and incorporated water with a lot of their architecture like Atlantis-y
And the graveyard was probably like a garden or town square
Honestly I'm thinking of gerudo town from botw

[nimble ingot]

ok, it took a few minutes. I deciphered the alphabet in the old concept art for the elders
Here is the link: https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1284977315861037057?lang=de
It is not complete though :/
I am missing the following letters: B, J, P, Q, V, W, X and Z
I noticed D/T and M/N respectively are the same symbol, or similar to each other since I struggled to tell them apart due to the resolution.
This may hint to which language system they use or the time period the language system used may be relevant.
I dont know, my brain is now mush and need sleep.

I can share the drawing done to translate it.

[nimble ingot]

Sorry for the rough look.
It is the only page I saw the language used and I just finished it.

[dense fractal]

that's epic!!

[nimble ingot]

If anyone spots more of those texts, please do let me know. I would love to have a look at them.

[sharp lichen]

What are your thoughts/ideas on seasons after Little Prince? I have 2 that I’ll expand upon later: a gameplay-focused one set in Wasteland, and the opportunity to relive your moth days with heavy story and a Shopkeeper focus

[pastel brook]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[nimble ingot]

hi skybot.

[dense fractal]

a lot honestly, but i shall share my thoughts in a few days because some of the content i found while lurking isn't live yet

[nimble ingot]

agreed. I know some of the season stuff and also know this channel has no spoiler tags, though would wait till the season is live before theorising on it.

[sharp lichen]

No, I meant seasons after LP, or just your season ideas in general

[rain pond]

I came up with a new krill theory

Based on the "corrupted creature" and "technological abominations" theories

[river tide]

I hope the next seasons can move more in the direction of actually restoring the kingdom

[nimble ingot]

oh, after?
Perhaps one that is like a army recruit with spirits doing drills and training. (so a hat and boots, with the jumping jack and militarily stance that also makes the skykid march when they walk).
Then maybe a merchant/nomad type of season where spirits similar to that of enchantment set up their tents anywhere (almost like a boho/hippy type of season with a prop for a trade table and possibly a variant of the yoga pose combined with the floating pose for a meditation type of emote).
And lastly an EDEN season that deals with spirits that faced dark times, but through sheer determination pulled through, those spirits are like the champions that faced danger head on.

[rain pond]

Krill were (note the past tense) just corrupted creatures a long time ago, driven mad by the pain of the darkness ripping into the physical form of the light creature, melting off into motes of darkness. They came across some technology, and the consciousness of the light creature was enraged by it as it was the very same technology that had harmed its brethren.

So it attacked.

The darkness, recognizing that the technology contained some light (all tech is powered by light, and there probably is some residual energy left over,) basically forced the whole krill to consume it, out of a mindless desire to consume all the light.

The technology was thus fused into the krill in the most horrifying way imaginable, with the creature underneath being ripped apart by the darkness while being forced to power the technology, with no control over its fate.

[orchid basalt]

does anyone have a theory for how the water in golden wasteland became dangerous

[rain pond]

It makes sense due to the organic nature of the main body of the Krill while the spines (geometric shapes btw) are probably destroyed shards of technology coated in darkness. If you look into the motifs for light creatures they are organic while darkness in general takes geometric forms.

[river tide]

There are a lot of oil pipes in the wasteland so I assume the spirits polluted the water

[nimble ingot]

wasteland is polluted, the water being poisoned is what hurting skykids and even spirit memories.

[orchid basalt]

so what polluted wasteland

[river tide]

the spirits

[dense fractal]

in that case I'd like to see a season that interacts more with dark creatures, specifically krills. also newer areas (maybe more graveyards) in gw!

I'd also like to see another season revolving around isle, kind of like the reviving the area

[rain pond]

The pollution is the result of darkness that was pumped away from diamond factories.

It's an eerie mirror to the contemporary factories in our world.

[dense fractal]

for me i think it's the stars. the terrain of the kingdom of sky in general isn't suitable for stars at all, so it corrupts the surrounding land around it creating weeds/darkness and corrupting light creatures upon contact. some might even grow those red spikes we see in eden

[rain pond]

I actually have a season idea that revolves around purifying small areas of Eden, GW, Vault and Forest.

Forest - Remove the gargantuan clouds that were a result of the Eden Diamond exploding.
GW - Remove the pollution and the clouds, and save a krill and crab or two
Vault - Clear the air pollution and open up the skies so we can admire the stars.
Eden - Bring back the midnight skies of Eden instead of the horrifying reds and abnormally light blues.

[stone reef]

I like to think wasteland natives were trained to be warriors
Like the oldest would be recruited while the younger ones would work the fields or run the shops with their parents... then when they got older they too would join the army
Idk I just rlly want an army themed season that explains why wasteland got hit the hardest

[rain pond]

I think that before Wasteland was a wasteland it used to be called "Golden Metropolis." Probably the most rich city in Sky apart from Eden. This would explain the large factories and the fact that there is a lot of water. Boats probably would've been able to sail in.

[stone reef]

✨ Venice ✨

[rain pond]

y e s

[river tide]

The wasteland may have been a religious place too

[dense fractal]

i think eden was the religious place and wasteland well.. was wasteland to begin with

wonder what caused the war there though, it seemed like it was all centered by the temple.

[stone reef]

I'm imagining something like a walled in city like gerudo town
But like you see forgotten ark and there's a sorta tiled field near the red light

[rain pond]

Wasteland was probably the sahara desert but with water, and the sky civilisation was like "yep i wanna live in this barren area" and started building 42039560874365978 factories and selling power diamonds for lots of money which meant more money for infrastructure which meant more-

[dense fractal]

it is probably a walled in city or a factory. to me wasteland is probably the center of importing and exporting light, creatures, and basic necessities. it could also a factory where power diamonds were produced, so that's why much of the pollution we see and get from the stars (or by any other possible means) is more abundant than anywhere else.

[rain pond]

Walled city. If it was one massive factory then GW would probably not be navigable.

It was an industrial city, aye. But it wasn't a massive factory.

[dense fractal]

i suppose that could also be the case. but if you also consider how large the creatures were (judging by their skeletons) they must've also needed a massive area to store them (if they actually did, like stables)

[rain pond]

But have you considered: Where would the workers live??? If the presses were functional without ancestors then the one in Forest temple would be functional rn

[stone reef]

What exactly were they trying to protect themselves from tho?
The other realms? I mean they didn't rlly have any reason to believe eden was going to fall

[rain pond]

(btw the large thing in forest was probably used to squoosh light creatures)

[stone reef]

Maybe there's another area to wasteland
Like where you go to get the fluffy grat cape looks like the hallway continues on

[rain pond]

official concept art

[dense fractal]

now that's just scary.

[dense fractal]

outside of wasteland probably, think of it as a marketplace. and since it was already polluted to begin with, it would be a dangerous area to live in.

[rain pond]

I don't think it was polluted before the Sky civilisation but ok

[stone reef]

Wack
But like there's more cities in wasteland that u can see in the distance as well and they look to be much more intact than the city we get to explore (at least from what we can see anyways)

[rain pond]

There's also a massive tank in the distance (the tanks that hold water not the moving vehicles with cannons)

Probably represents the effort of some people to hold the pollution away while they find a more permanent disposal area. But noooo. They had to keep torturing creatures for pretty diamonds and monetary gain.

[dense fractal]

no i mean in the time power diamonds were already in the process, they most likely had to dump out their waste somewhere, as well as store the power diamonds to be exported to various areas of the realm.

[rain pond]

oh

[dense fractal]

i agree with this.

[rain pond]

I love how Tom Zhao was like "King Statue for morale!" in his concept art

[dense fractal]

i haven't seen much of his concept art since I'm fairly new to the lore, where can i find it?

[rain pond]

well technically he didn't add the morale part but it's funny to think of it like that

[quasi steppe]

i just went through eden for the first time . YOURE TELLING ME THE FATE OF ALL THE SKY KIDS IS TO BECOME THE STATUES AT THE END AND NO MATTER HOW MANY WE FREE WITH THE LIGHT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE MORE ??!!

[rain pond]

https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1

[river tide]

Are sky kids the stars? I think the winged lights are different from the sky kids

[rain pond]

Does anyone notice the similarities between the color schemes of the current Eden and the colors of the Krills' lights?

[pale kestrel]

I am now scared of that thing 1000 times more than just hating the cutscene

[rain pond]

oop

[dense fractal]

it's a repeated cycle, so basically we're doing the entire thing again but this time with more knowledge. that's the point of sky, we're supposed to help moths guide more children into the light

[river tide]

I think the winged lights aren’t theoretically infinite, there’s just a lot of stars

I’m still confused about weather the fallen stars are the spirits

[dense fractal]

winged lights were called stars before. skykids however, are more like vessels that can carry infinite winged lights and carry them home aka into the orbit. I'm currently looking into the anatomy of a moth/skykid, and currently i suggest that there is two components in it : the light and a void.

[river tide]

Sounds like a lot of Ancient Greek philosophy

[dense fractal]

true . i haven't really dug deep into it, and those are just my speculations, feel free to add details into it!

[river tide]

The intro says that the fallen stars made a home among the clouds, does that mean they are the spirits?

[dense fractal]

yesss! they're basically lost souls that got mixed up with the kingdom of sky when they fell (possibly) due to

a.) natural imbalance
b.) elders screwing up the system
c.) megabird wants drama
d.) (insert your own theory here!)

and we're instructed to guide them home~

[quasi steppe]

dang this ending cutscene is beautiful

I feel like I’m glimpsing the endless death and rebirth of the universe

[dense fractal]

ikr, when i first completed it i teared up a little it was just so BEAUTIFUL

[river tide]

So are the stars the generation of spirits that died before they could grow up?

[quasi steppe]

I cried when i got to hug the other lightless child

[trim belfry]

GUYS I JUST RELIZED NOW THAT CREATURES VOICE AT TRAILER IS NOT FROM SKY COTL... IT'S FROM JOURNEY GAME

[stone reef]

All the memories we relive in wasteland tho are from after eden falls

Journey x Sky confirmed

[trim belfry]

I know but usually the creatures voice on sky is different... But at trailer it's like journey... And that's make me cry that it's so beautiful

[pastel brook]

[pale kestrel]

Botw? I'm guessing that's a reference to the Nintendo release

[hushed steeple]

Eden fell? I guess there's lore that I didn't pick up on

[hushed steeple]

And the flight to orbit was amazing

[livid valley]

[sage isle]

So, so

When we whip out the red candle to light other people's candle, that's our core? Since we put it away, our sky kid kinda puts/pushes it in their chest.

[stone reef]

Breath of the wild
It's the newest zelda game and a lot of games have coined off of it lol
Like genshin for one

[pale kestrel]

Yeah that's what I guessed

[livid valley]

why BOTW here

[untold notch]

lonk hair

[stone reef]

Cuz I was referencing gerudo town as the wasteland city

[livid valley]

idk any BOTW stuff so

[icy spruce]

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[astral sequoia]

is manta diamond juice drinkable
can moths be blended in the manta juice blender

[open loom]

does anyone know the purpose of the Isle temple, and why there were boats going to and from it?

[river tide]

In one of the memories there is a candle maker using the boat to transport candles. Maybe isle was a big farm land that delivered goods to the rest of the kingdom

[open loom]

switch trailer showed what seemed like a bazaar next to the dock

[livid valley]

well early on Isle is a guide using the boats to guide skids

[pale mason]

Probably a port hub, and given that Isle is the first place in Sky Kingdom territory, most likely this is the “face” of the kingdom

[compact shale]

Being skykid is suffering

[elfin sapphire]

Sky kids were practically only made for one purpose, to die and honk

[sage isle]

When we whip out the red candle to light other people's candle, that's our core? Since we put it away, our sky kid kinda puts/pushes it in their chest.

[open loom]

ah, rght. feels kinda foreign to me tht the sky kingdom isn't the only kingdom since it's where the elders are hanging out

[pale mason]

Most likely? With the heart symbol and it literally on our chest, it also doesn’t lit up if we are out of light. So maybe it’s like a battery?

[compact shale]

Our our soul/heart/star?

[pale mason]

Possibly

[sage isle]

I'm only asking this because I saw an angsty Sky animation

[compact shale]

is it the one where it says "if your candle breaks you cannot get reborn"

[sage isle]

Uhh, nooo. By Starmy Bunny, "[Sky : children of the light] Lovely"

[compact shale]

what's it aboot?

[sage isle]

Basically, estella finds a moth (which are like little kids and they grow up, I'm assuming) and takes them to Eden while another sky kid (Eos) tells Estella to leave the moth. Eos gets told no, and says she won't make the same mistake again. She reaches for the moth and gets killed by the rocks. This happens cuz in the beginning of the video, the creator says, "Skykid die for real when the red candle(core) gets destroyed NO REBORN"

And Eos blames the moth for killing Estella, and I get lost in the middle until Eos gets krilled and dies. But, another sky kid makes a deal with a bad(?) Sky kid and Estrella and Eos come back to life.

[astral sequoia]

red candle as in the glowing bean organ you see if you glitch into the moths?
also cough theory about moths being robots and have a singular irreplaceable and replenishable energy core

[sage isle]

The thing in the middle of our body? Yes.

But, @compact shale, you should watch the video since i suck at explaining

[pure root]

SPILL THE TEA IGNIS

[primal verge]

Y'ALL

[sage isle]

Mh?

[compact shale]

it's ok, i think i know where to find it
i also want to write a dark Sky fancomic

[sage isle]

It's on YouTube and I say go for it!

[primal verge]

REMEMBER THE CREATURE THEY RIDE IN THE TRAILER?

So there was a theory going on that maybe it is pre corrupted krill.

What if

When stars fell there was noone to look after them and feed them so they started starving and got corrupted and started attacking for light.

DARKNESS IS JUST ABSENSE OF LIGHT

[pure root]

THEY HAVE THE FLASHLIGHT EYE TOO IT WORKS-

[astral sequoia]

I mean that’s how things work irl isn’t it
no lömp = darkness

[pale mason]

Altho it’s up to interpretation, i’m not convinced because we can still move with the candle depleted. Maybe we will lose the ability to store light if our candle broke

[sage isle]

...YOU GENIUS

[pure root]

BIG BRAIN

[primal verge]

Insert exploding brain emoji

[pale mason]

Whales also have flashlight eyes, according to a concept art

[sage isle]

MEGA BIG BRAIN

[untold notch]

wait that kinda is how darkness works tho

[primal verge]

[astral sequoia]

krill becomes evil and starts eating moff basically

[sage isle]

I think its a fan animation with their own way of s
Telling the story

[untold notch]

they are hungry for light and thats why they bean your lights out of you

[primal verge]

WE BRING LIGHT TO DARKNESS AND IT FADES AWAY.

WE "BURN" IT AKA BRING FIRE TO IT

FIRE AKA LIGHT

DARKNESS IS THE ABSENSE OF LIGHT

[river tide]

Can we light up krills then

[sage isle]

Because they're desperate to get light back in their body?

[astral sequoia]

In theory if I commit sudoku with krills then they aren’t hungry and become rideable manatees
at the cost of all of my wl

[river tide]

But they are so dark they can’t absorb light when they attack moths

[astral sequoia]

well that’s just sad

[sage isle]

Y'all are geniuses

[pure root]

No more light = Krill hongy = krill go bonkers = krill attacc

[untold notch]

you arent you when ur hungry

[pure root]

have a light

[river tide]

They don’t eat the lights when they attack the lights just fall off the moths and fade

[primal verge]

Maybe we need the special nectar they used in the trailer to feed them? So they are tamed back?

NO I HAVE BETTER IDEA.

EVOLUTION

THEY CANT BE REVERTED BECAUSE THEY EVOLUTED INTO THEIR CURRENT STATE DUE TO SWITCHING FROM DOMESTICATED INTO WILD OVER VERY LONG TIME.... CUZ THE SPIRITS WERE DEAD FOR A LOOONG LONG TIME SO IT MAKES SENSE THAT EVERYTHING CHANGED DRAMATICALLY... I MEAN ISLE WAS PRAIRIE STYLE VILLAGE AND NOW A DESERT

[pure root]

theyre jealous of light people

[pale mason]

I did say sky lore is up to interpretation, i was stating my opinion that I am not convinced and explained why

[sage isle]

Ah. Forgive me then, MabuSo

[primal verge]

HOW IS TGC MANAGING TO EXPLODE MY BRAIN BY 2 MIN LONG VIDEO HOW???

[pale mason]

Funny how the crabs eat the wl instead. Maybe a mutual smth that animals do?

[astral sequoia]

simple, commit selective breeding with the better krills

[untold notch]

isle got desertified we hate to see it

[pale mason]

Issokie issokei

[astral sequoia]

and toss in a few whales and mantas if that’s possible

[river tide]

Crabs eat lights???

[pale mason]

Yes

[river tide]

The more you know

[sage isle]

Oh- wait

[stone reef]

So uhh
What if wasteland wasn't actually a wasteland and rather just an overgrown wilderness of sorts?
Cuz we usually think of wasteland in the post apocalyptic way
But the definition says it could also just be overgrown land

[astral sequoia]

Unused factory?

[sage isle]

Factory for what, exactly?

[river tide]

Artificial stars?

[sage isle]

Maybe- weapons against the krill?

[stone reef]

I mean in the concepts as well it seemed to be a fortified city of sorts
See like the sentries and the town square
And there were factories to produce the light vessels like in the forest temple

[astral sequoia]

manta juice and diamond

[sage isle]

O. Good thought

[river tide]

Manta juice???

[astral sequoia]

an abandoned wasteland and warzone for good measure
always found it odd how the elder is a warrior
manta juice is diamond energy

[pale mason]

Manta juice (or any light creature juice) ingredient (possibly) to create diamond

[stone reef]

And there's a palace there as well so maybe wasteland was a grand sorta castle town before eden fell

[river tide]

Oh

Poor mantas

[sage isle]

There's another thought that krills were guards

[stone reef]

And wasteland does seem to be the last defense for eden besides vault

[sage isle]

Maybe they were rides AND guards?

[astral sequoia]

Sort of like in journey?

[sage isle]

Mh!

[pale mason]

Maybe, considering GW is nearest to Eden, and if we assume Vault is actually an Eden extension

[astral sequoia]

eden extension or not vault is still a pog place

[stone reef]

I feel like the krills were the light creatures and through time just became mindless beasts who only seek out the light

[compact shale]

Or maybe Vault was a Wasteland extension pre-storm

[sage isle]

Isn't vault like destroyed when we reached the end to go into eden?

[river tide]

Maybe Krill are mantas after they were pressed for juice

[stone reef]

In the concepts it does seem like wasteland was connected to vault
As they called it the library and for how close it is to eden it's in really good shape

[sage isle]

It is?-

I mean it being in good shape

[astral sequoia]

Krill:
Corrupted/starved manatees (new name for the krillmantawhale seen in the trailer) ?
Possible suit made out of bones?
Seeks out for light yet cannot consume them
Possible also corrupted whales/canths?
Possible guards/mounts?

[pale mason]

Maybe. Ngl Vault is wonky

[stone reef]

I mean look at it compared to wasteland, you'd expect since wasteland got absolutely destroyed by the darkness that vault would be too

[sage isle]

I like how you make a list

Hmmm...

[compact shale]

My theory is that it's just part of the Vault
The unbroken vault is actually a connected network of towers
Archives shows remains of a bridge leading into a lesser tower
And the Vault we know is just the elder tower
This theory is based on the Artifact OOB but it could work

[stone reef]

There was a theory earlier that the krills were those mounts but corrupted and that since they were attracted to the light that they would seek out the machines in wasteland and sorta... absorb them and that's why they chunky and all geometric

[river tide]

I wish we could read the archives in the vault

[sage isle]

Ohhhhh. I see, I see.

[compact shale]

What if we can, but they're all runes? And the runes are legit, not some kind of gibbberish trolling

[astral sequoia]

I’d say the vault is kind of like a dna and memory bank

[river tide]

That would be cool

[astral sequoia]

In case humanity goes extinct which apparently it did
forgot to mention sky may be set in the future with pollution and all that

[pale mason]

Maybe? But also keep in mind that Vault is the most technologically advanced realm in sky, given that’s where most scholars do their research, and the Tower is protected by a fortress (GW). So the Vault having the least damage, even tho it’s sandwiched with Eden explosion and war happening in Battlefield might be logical

Or maybe a product of memory lanterns leaking

[stone reef]

Maybe the elder spirits are only rlly there because they have unfinished business, or were killed quickly and haven't realized it yet
That could be a reason why the temples for each realm are in really good condition (relatively speaking) it's cuz the elders spirits are stuck till they complete their mission or are able to move on with outside help

[sage isle]

All this lore is giving me a headache

[hushed steeple]

there's a battlefield?

[sage isle]

Yeah! Near the gate and mostly all over the place

[astral sequoia]

yes, ‘fainting’ warrior

[pale mason]

Battlefield

[sage isle]

There's also catta...catta..

[hushed steeple]

ah

[stone reef]

Battlefield is the last location in wasteland, the area before the temple and riddled with shields, spears, and barricades

[sage isle]

Catapults!

So, those were probably used to launch something at someone or...something- er

[astral sequoia]

Wait so I’ve got this theory
Wasteland is a factory and probably in charge of manufacturing most of the diamonds in the sky universe
Opposing faction waged war with them and ‘manatees’ were used as guards (whales too probably, large bones seen and also wasteland masks are based off whale/canth heads)
manatee becomes krill and all that stuff
present day wasteland after being abandoned
also a fort for the kingdom in eden?

[stone reef]

Since wasteland was the last defense to eden it would make sense that they would have the most fortifications

[acoustic nebula]

I really hope tgc makes a prequel game set in the sky verse bc I would be more than happy to buy it

[astral sequoia]

shut up and take my money

[pale mason]

Huh now that i think about it, since Eden pursues diamond making and GW is near it, it make sense that GW is a diamond factory hub, and a fortress

[sage isle]

Mood.

[compact shale]

1. Yeet rock at krill
2. Yeet burning stuff at krill
3. Yeet krill at krill
4. Yeet soldier at krill

[stone reef]

I would assume that those native to wasteland would be a part of the army of sorts
where else did all those shields and weapons come from? And who was gonna use em anyways

[sage isle]

...yeet a soldier?!

[astral sequoia]

Do krills eat spirits or are they only after light beings
IF THEY ARENT HOSTILE TO SPIRITS THAT MEANS WE CAN HAVE A KRILL CALL

[pale mason]

Yeet moff at krills

[sage isle]

I don't think soldiers can fly like sky kids!

[hushed steeple]

seems that they're after light

but i could be wrong

[compact shale]

Yeet krill at krill

[sage isle]

All I can imagine is just a GW soldier just smashing against a krill and just..sliding off, like in the cartoons. Yk what I'm talking about?

[hushed steeple]

yep

[astral sequoia]

We don’t see any spirits in danger
And also I believe they aren’t completely mindless and still know they need to defend the factory, and moths are intruders
imagine how easy the prince’s trip would be when everything was all dandy and there’s no dark shrimps anywhere

also check out the wasteland masks and compare it to this whale/coelacanth

[sage isle]

Imagine if there's a prequel of the prince having a part of Eden falling

[astral sequoia]

beta krills look like they’re whales, maybe a manatee inside bone/machine suits?
Explains the fact they don’t look like krills but still have a beam of light

[hushed steeple]

dang poor things

[astral sequoia]

Starved creatures who are unable to consume the thing that they need to yet cannot die
jesus krills are abused

[hushed steeple]

there are a few parallels that can be drawn between Sky and Journey

[astral sequoia]

first off there’s a large mountain and you die from freezing or whatever

[hushed steeple]

basically the same for the Journey Krill right?

[compact shale]

ded via freezer
instant adult
just microwave and done

[astral sequoia]

might be a prequel set in war leading to nuclear winter before the events of eden or all of the other structures we see today
works with the theory that sky may be set very far in the future

[pale mason]

The scared refugee is fleeing away from an earthquake, the black caped spirit is hiding from a krill, the lookout spirit is raising an alarm about something

[hushed steeple]

i should play Journey again...

[astral sequoia]

welp but let’s be honest who wouldn’t run away if you see your horse suddenly becomes this giant flying shrimp with dark beams of light

[compact shale]

SKY HAS HORSES?!

[astral sequoia]

“Manatees”
The one that the prince rides in the trailer

[stone reef]

I made a horse mount for my skykid...

[compact shale]

Evil Tempura Propaganda

[stone reef]

Tbh the mount I made is like a weird wyvern horse manta thing
Didn't have eyes

[astral sequoia]

Sort of like this?

[stone reef]

No it touched the ground lol I'll put it in #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat

[pale mason]

About krills, I’m a little torn between “krills being corrupted light creatures make sense” and “but i want an original dark creature “

[astral sequoia]

original dark creatures: darkness dust maybe
somebody mentioned they were like parasites, leeching off other beings and corrupting them (eg, crabs without darkness dust on them aren’t hostile)

[hushed steeple]

what even were the crabs?

[astral sequoia]

normal crabs
of course there’s also the hermitspiders in the trailers

[pale mason]

Crabs are crabs that do their hugs the wrong way

[compact shale]

Maybe the Tower Spider krebs are original dark, not corrupted

[astral sequoia]

they normally aren’t hostile unless darkness dust is on them
If it was normal dust, why would they become hostile?
I imagine it’s a sort of symbiotic relationship

[wicked plover]

GW soldier riding a krill, krill hussars

[stone reef]

[compact shale]

Symbiotic? Implying that the dust is alive and needs food ?

[astral sequoia]

yes
they leech off the crabs for life force
or crab meat

[stone reef]

Darkness needs light to survive

[hushed steeple]

lol

[pale mason]

Wait someone is roasting the crabs so are they eating the dark dust too-

[astral sequoia]

crabs are neutral creatures
Darkness dust let them become dark creatures in exchange for food or whatever

[astral sequoia]

you know what screw it, lactic acid

[compact shale]

Maybe fire burns the darkness off
Maybe the darkdust is like a necessary pathogen
And you need to cook food so that you don't get darkness poisoning

[stone reef]

Thought it was more like a parasite
Cook the crab kill the parasite

[astral sequoia]

fire does replenish light after all

[compact shale]

DON'T GET DARKMONELLA! COOK YOUR FOOD TO 180F TODAY! WASH YOUR HANDS!

[astral sequoia]

Also if I’m correct you can see some darkness dust on the whales

[hushed steeple]

interesting

[stone reef]

It's also interesting though that the crab fire was made after the fall of eden
Suggesting that some spirits lived on after everything died
It would make sense too, considering the memories we relive in wasteland take place after the fact

[compact shale]

Well, some people do believe that Team Enchantment survived the storm but their boat got krilled some time after gathering all the lights and they all died

[stone reef]

That would make sense too, cuz you see them all kinda making a home in the ark ruins
Like the muralist and the boo guy working the field

[astral sequoia]

And then the spirit guide harvested their hearts and sold it to the moths in exchange for helping them with setting up LED lights

[compact shale]

w ha t

[stone reef]

Pff

[hushed steeple]

yeh

[pale mason]

LMAO

[astral sequoia]

I mean the spirits become ghosts why do they fear death
or are spirts just hallucinations

[icy spruce]

Ooo, what’s the to pi c

[astral sequoia]

crab and dark parasite and organ harvesting

[stone reef]

I feel like the reason we have spirits is cuz they can't ascend basically so they need us

[icy spruce]

Nice :D

[compact shale]

Yeah, so about Team Enchantment...
Maybe they died of some other cause after their boat got krilled

[astral sequoia]

so the spirits I don’t ascend are left to rot in the mortal realm

[icy spruce]

Starvation and dehydration prolly due to lack of resources

[compact shale]

😄

[icy spruce]

😃 👍

[astral sequoia]

is it just me or did most spirits eat each other
treehouse children were locked in the treehouse, likely starved or are each other (why do all of the spirit guides have hearts for sale)
light spirtis were left in a secluded area with no escape, hearts for sale

[stone reef]

It's funny that we only rlly see birds and crabs in the spirits memories
Besides sanctuary
Cuz you'd think after eden fell that everything got nae naed but maybe it was more of a slow fall
Like Coronavirus

[compact shale]

OH GOODNESS I HOPE THAT ISN'T THE CASE
I DONT WANT IT TO BE THE CASE

[astral sequoia]

there’s no way to escape from sanctuary unless you can fly or teleport, sure, an escape from modern society, totally not a place where the spirits eat you

[stone reef]

Hearts are just an in game currency idk if they have anything to do with the lore..
Cuz as far as I know spirits and skykids alike don't have human organs

[icy spruce]

I mean, they can eat mantas/crabs

[compact shale]

And the assembly kids probably live on plant and crab

[icy spruce]

What if the kids died from the explosion

[pale mason]

Funny thought. The emote levels might matter towards the Spirits’ psyche. At level 1 it is a direct emoji, no decorations, no exagerrations. But as we unlock friendships with them (assuming spirit menus works the same way as friend menus) the emotes levels up, and becomes more “freeform”? I think this implies that not only are we freeing Spirits away from their trapped, physical bodies, we also free them away from trauma they experienced when they were alive.

In short, skykids are comfort pets.

[compact shale]

I think the Assembly kids died because of the storm, like most of the others

[astral sequoia]

moff

[icy spruce]

squish

[hushed steeple]

sure

[stone reef]

I wanna know if the fall of eden was an abrupt sorta explosion that wiped out everything or was more of a slow moving storm that steadily drained resources and spread darkness

[hushed steeple]

I got a slightly clearer picture of Vault King mural off my switch too. The lines are just a little cleaner.

[compact shale]

I like to think that the Assembly QG started the treehouse as a bold youthful decision

[astral sequoia]

oh yeah did you know you can see 8 dead bodies inside the trial murals

[icy spruce]

Imo, I go with the explosion (but the slow moving one is for the Isle, Priaire and Valley)

[wicked plover]

Theres plenty of crab supply at Sanctuary for food but they're very aggressive

[icy spruce]

There’ the non aggressive

[hushed steeple]

i didn't really know that the world we play in was post world ending event until today

Prolly both, every realm around Eden got a lot of people killed in the explosion, but the edges had slow dying survivors.

i didn't know Eden had exploded

[stone reef]

Oh yeah big boom boom

[hushed steeple]

Here he is. Mmm tasty forbidden darkstone.

nom

[stone reef]

Gasp what if wasteland had a sorta sand seal mount instead of those mantatees like in botw

[hushed steeple]

hmm

[astral sequoia]

Basically sky is underwater but not underwater at the same time because sea creatures can now fly but butterflies don’t live underwater because they’re artificial batteries and moths are robots

[hushed steeple]

uhhmmm

how much lore did i not pick up on?!

[compact shale]

My theory is that this is what caused the Eden explosion.
Basically the King had been hoarding divine light (workers offering it to him)
And he wanted to consume it with the intent of becoming godlike (but he told the ancestors that he's using it to make himself the ultimate offering to megabird)
However because of the darkness and greed in his heart, the lightball also got corrupted, and he became the Eden diamond and started the Storm

[hushed steeple]

Prolly not much. most lots is just theory and interpretation.

[stone reef]

Uh k
But in the trailer I'm sure that other realm is prolly underwater or is just unconnected

[icy spruce]

WAIT WHAT OTHER REALM

[stone reef]

The forest like one in the trailer

[dense fractal]

hello lore chat, any new theories?

[hushed steeple]

They went through desert n forest before getting to isle as their first stop.

[pale mason]

Hmmmmm

[icy spruce]

Ohhh, oh ya I forgot

[stone reef]

They have guardian crebs

[hushed steeple]

i think it's just refresher right now

[compact shale]

There was a once-commonly believed theory that Isle was underwater because of the boats and nearby sea and the sand. However Switch Trailer has debunked it.

[icy spruce]

Spooder krebs, spooder krebs

[pale mason]

What if the trailer shows when Little Prince visited real time? Back when everything is ok and no eden boom boom?

[astral sequoia]

he ate the light ball and screamed and the world got nuked because it hurt so much that his scream caused more destruction than a nuclear bomb /j

[hushed steeple]

lol

I take King mural as “eating the forbidden fruit” getting kicked out of the garden of eden. In this cause, using the forbidden stone and getting kicked out of orbit.

[pale mason]

Also his castle is named Eden. Forbidden Fruits

[stone reef]

I don't think the prince in the trailer is the little prince
We mean the prince that becomes the corrupted king

[hushed steeple]

could be

[astral sequoia]

megabird told the king to not eat the sun but some snake told him to eat it

[pale mason]

Ooh what if the ball is actually a microphone head and King is singing karaoke so hard everything shattered?

[stone reef]

Lmao eden

[hushed steeple]

what's megabird?

Haaaaahahaaaaa I love these

[icy spruce]

Deity of Sky/the universe Sky is in

[pale mason]

The world is not ready for King’s singing skillz

[hushed steeple]

so the space light curl?

[compact shale]

One day, the King invited everyone to a ceremony on castle grounds.
He showed a ball of pure light that he had been accumulating for quite some time.
"The divine offering to Megabird has been finished, and I shall become the vessel for it! Behold my ultimate act of worship!"
The crowd was filled with cheering, but also... protest?
Most of the elders seemed to be in favor the idea, except for Vault, who had a troubled look on their face.
The crowd was silent in suspense...

The king took the ball of pure light and swallowed it.
*collective gasp
The king started to feel a throbbing pain...
"F-father? W-what's going on?!" Alef fearfully said, as he watched what was happening. He really didn't know much about his father's plan until now, but something didn't seem right...
The king screamed, and then...

[stone reef]

I like to think wasteland was a seaside city, like venice, and was a hustle n bustle kinda place with a big town square and lots of shops n factories and the castle where the elder resides

[hushed steeple]

boom

[pale mason]

Hair god

[stone reef]

Also maybe it wasn't a wasteland, more like an untamed grasslands of sorts, or a swampy kinda deal

[dense fractal]

speaking of wasteland, i took a couple of snapshots earlier during my run, i might try to redraw the area to check how it looked like pre-corruption

[hushed steeple]

One of Tom Zhao’s concepts is labeled “what was dusk like before the storm” and has concepts of a fortified lowered city.

[dense fractal]

eden, or wasteland?

[hushed steeple]

Wasteland. Hang on I’ll get it

[stone reef]

A big walled in city, a bustling castle town, the center with the kings statue or a fountain, then the factories scattered on the outskirts, small little towns here and there, and the elders temple at the back

[pale mason]

FA is in wasteland right? There are dead trees in there. Assuming those trees are common trees in GW, it looks similar to the trees that grows in Vault 3rd level

[hushed steeple]

i want a piece of the cardboard stuff that my art teacher provided for the prismacolor unit now so that i can draw Megabird

[hushed steeple]

Got it

[dense fractal]

library.. gw has a library?

[icy spruce]

Vault, prolly talking about Vault

[stone reef]

Like the castle of cagliostro

[hushed steeple]

This was still when they had the ark idea. So. Its old.

[pale mason]

The sunken part… might’ve been Graveyard?

[dense fractal]

ah, my bad. so gw and vault are connected, does this mean they're in the same area?

[frozen pivot]

that looks dope

[frozen pivot]

vault's gate is in gw

[pale mason]

Since it’s the lowest part in GW

[stone reef]

Reminds me of this

[wicked plover]

That final part would have intrigued me but Ig it is too violent?

As if the implications of a war wasnt but thats just me

[stone reef]

Yeah in the later concepts they replaced it with tsadi holding the gate

[dense fractal]

then the war was raged to protect the vault.

[frozen pivot]

the war was won but vault crumbled anyway, it was in eden where vault actually sits on

[wicked plover]

Alot of water makes sense for castle defense, it slows down intruders and keeps them tightly packed in a bridge where they're easy spear beam targets

[frozen pivot]

and eden was the first realm to be hit by the boom boom so , fits i guess

[stone reef]

The only reason I could rlly think of that there could be a war of that size is against the dark creatures
But maybe there was another war going on for control of the light factories? And it was already depleting their resources so when eden fell they had nothing against the darkness

[hushed steeple]

I like to think the shields meant diamond and anti diamond

[stone reef]

Considering the attack would have come from the back

[dense fractal]

i see! the portal realms really confuse me, makes it hard to differentiate where two realms meet XD

[hushed steeple]

oh so the factory in eden was a light factory?

[wicked plover]

Pike and shot formations against dark creatures

[hushed steeple]

and light is a manufactured energy?

[dense fractal]

probably. they had these spiked fences to block something around the temples. so im guessing that there were creatures large in size but too heavy to jump over them.

[stone reef]

It's theorized that the grinder we see in forest temple puts creatures light into these diamond vessels for easy transport and use as batteries essentially

[wicked plover]

Spears that shoot waxes how convenient, its like real life muzzleloaders with bayonets

[frozen pivot]

its a diamond factory, the production of diamonds are corrupt in nature, involving light creatures being squeezed of their light dry to charge the diamonds

[hushed steeple]

oh

[dense fractal]

i saw concept art of it earlier. if that is the case then probably the waste was thrown into gw. i think a light creature without light would be like a corpse, there would be no use of them so they had to discard it.

[stone reef]

I'm sticking with my cagliostro wasteland theory

[hushed steeple]

scawy

[frozen pivot]

its fun tho

[wicked plover]

Cagliostro wasteland theory? Im curious

[dense fractal]

knowing that there is an actual flytrap in the forest temple makes me sick. mama forest WHY

[frozen pivot]

they were captured lol, theres even a spirit that specializes with hunting

[dense fractal]

that's so inhumane, so i guess that debunks my theory that the way light is harnessed is through stars.

[severe rune]

off topic (meaning not the current convo) so im spoilering it ||i just rewatched the newest sky switch trailer they put out (the one with the different but beautiful graphics) and for some reason it JUST clicked that at the end where they fly up to the grassy plain with tents and the stone, it's the isle of dawn. i find it so interesting that since they flew there from somewhere else, it implies that the isle of dawn is NOT the beginning of this universe which is so cool to me (please forgive me i know this might seem obvious to some but i love the lore of sky so it excites me||

[hushed steeple]

EXACTLY. We where freaking out big time yesterday and before due to how big a lore bomb it was.

[pale mason]

might not be the beginneng of universe, but start of Sky Kingdom

[dense fractal]

i had a discussion with my partner earlier about this! i think its a tease that their MIGHT be a sub-area/realm that connects two major existing realms already, specifically the isle and either praire, or forest. The way u can enter this area can be through either of the realms, there might be an ancient civilization there or whatnot

[pale mason]

I've always believed that there are more places other than Sky

[frozen pivot]

even if it was a short glimpse, it was clear to be a prologue and boi oh boi was it great

[dense fractal]

also, i dont know if this is debunked already, but there were originally sixteen realms teased?

[severe rune]

RIGHT???? that's what i was thinking

[severe rune]

yeah there's no way they made that without some kind of hint. i was thinking to myself, "whoa this is cool, and i love it, but holy crap this animation and the stuff we were shown were like......oddly suspicious........in a good way....."

[frozen pivot]

even showed live ancestors and wat the butterflies really were

[hushed steeple]

And they blink

[severe rune]

AHH it was so sick.

[dense fractal]

AND THEY WEREN'T BLUE

[severe rune]

i should really talk in this channel more, i do love me some lore

[pale mason]

meaning they alive?

[frozen pivot]

mhh yes, the regulars crave for questions so pls do

[severe rune]

alright, i guess one question i do have is this: was the king (||eden||) a child once? we've seen in i think the beckon spirit from the isle of dawn (in that cut scene) that they found the prince, which is either the king or the first child of light. so if the king was once a child, were the other elders once children?? i wonder how they came into existence.....OR were they simply always there, like advisors to each ruler? (that was a lot sorry)

[dense fractal]

(not our photo) this was the look of home/hub before the global release, can you guys see how many portals/realms there were?! , indicating the kingdom of sky is bigger than we thought, the lore might even still be tidbits of the bigger picture

[severe rune]

to me that looks like the regular amount? although it's hard to see, but the rocks behind the portals look like the broken ones we see at the beginning of sky's gameplay now. (did you see more????? if so YAS)

[dense fractal]

elders were most likely also spirits. season of assembly says that each spirit represented an elder, so we can assume that they were all once children, including prince.

[stone reef]

The castle of cagliostro is a lupin movie where he sets off to find the man behind the counterfeit money he finds
He runs into the princess who was trying to escape the arranged marriage and is left to return her ring to her (which she unintentionally left with him)
He finds out that the princess is connected to count cagliostro because of the symbol on the ring
So he sets out to sneak into the castle and return the ring to the princess
When he's with the princess he learns the reasons behind the forced wedding and vows to free the princess
Unfortunately he's found out and is left to die in the catacombs of the castle which is where he finds the counterfeit money and the secret of the cagliostro castle
Eventually he's able to make his way out and back to the princess
but in the process of trying to escape with the princess he's shot and the princess strikes a deal with the count to spare his life
After three days lupin once again sets out to rescue the princess from the count, but this time he's prepared
So anyways to cut this short, he and the count get in this fight for the cagliostro treasure
The count dies and the treasure is revealed to be an ancient roman city that was submerged underwater until now

[hushed steeple]

A lot of us consider Prince and King to be the same person (see the figure standing in Kings facehole) with the idea being Elders cannot age, and thus he is stuck as a permanent child. Just a common theory though.

[frozen pivot]

they could be the same entity - prince being coronated to be king, courtesy of prophecy. they could also be different entities, idk how but theres some holes that imply that they are

[dense fractal]

same here, but it was my partner who confirmed that there were sixteen (he was there pre-global release, and was also one of the first beta testers for ios) . man home sure changed a lot T-T

[wicked plover]

Ooo

[severe rune]

THAT ART 👀

[frozen pivot]

i wish i was a pre global release moth, imagine all the knowledge i could hold

[hushed steeple]

I saw placement of a lot of realms changed too. Mountain Isle, Aviary tower

[stone reef]

So to connect that all to wasteland.... inhale
I feel like there may have been a sorta political war to gain control of the light factories which eventually turned into an all out war when someone leaks something about a hidden treasure and whoever finds the treasure will gain control of the factories and in turn the economy
Unfortunately it was all a hoax, or so it was thought, because everything was cut short when eden fell

[dense fractal]

ikr I'm super envious about it (this is me regretting not downloading the game pre-global release and learning the lore in advace. this is literally ME REGRETTING)

[frozen pivot]

do u remember the old realm names aswell? names similar to hebrew names of elders like lamed tsadi daleth etc

[severe rune]

SIXTEEN???? ah man that's so much but so cool. i wonder if they'll ever add that amount - i'm assuming not, as it'd probably require more space in the home hub. but i do think adding even two or three more would be so cool

[livid valley]

ah yes

[hushed steeple]

I heard shores of mana for wasteland, have not watched enough to know of any others yet.

[livid valley]

what are you guys discussing now

[pale mason]

Sky'll get chonkier too

[livid valley]

Yes.

[dense fractal]

same. i think the other realms would be sub-realms (realms within realms)

like literally imagine how painful it'll be candle and winged light running, as well as collecting spirits

• storage space. that'll be like 10GB + at this point and your phone would explode

[frozen pivot]

am i the only one that vaguely remembers about cities being called with hebrew names

[pale mason]

which might be bad for ppl with low phone memory

[stone reef]

As for the city itself, it was probably surrounded by water
Wasteland was most likely a bunch of 'floating cities' of sorts with big outer walls surrounded by untamed wilderness and beaches

[hushed steeple]

I never heard of that. Sounds plausible though.

[severe rune]

another thing to add is i think a lot of people see the wasteland as society's downfall in sky, but we see this beginning in the hidden forest. all the failed projects, traps, etc...and then i can only assume that the valley was peak of sky's civilization, as we see grand buildings and all that. and the vault it the last attempt and maintaining all the knowledge (vault....of knowledge.....lol im so smart amirite). even there though we see evidence of destruction

[severe rune]

im glad to have it on switch, because i think it'll be able to handle it!! i have botw so if it can handle that hopefully chonky sky will be fine

[frozen pivot]

it was sort of old fanon names, the cities having an alias in hebrew

[dense fractal]

exactly which is why i think the idea was reworked to have minimal storage space but still keep the lore intact.

speaking of vault of knowledge. i don't know if it's intentional but behind the floating scrolls/lanterns(?) is an empty room you can walk on. i don't think it's considered oob already, but could it be there was an entire room stripped out?

[hushed steeple]

Can we have modern city at night now?

[pale mason]

might be, luci

or maybe it's for background depth purposes

[stone reef]

Also in the secret area you can see posters of each realm with like
Isle- birth, beginning
Prairie- child, first steps
Forest- young adult, Exploration
Valley- adult, glory days
Wasteland- adult, getting old
Vault- elder, passing on wisdom
Eden- death, rebirth
I forget exactly what they say but it's something like that

[hushed steeple]

Also includes precious King/Prince and Megabird artwork

[stone reef]

Yeee

[dense fractal]

i think this means the progression of a moth's life/journey towards eden.

[stone reef]

Well I know that but the realms are also designed with that in mind

[pale mason]

Yes, the realms have themes that represents stages of life. Along with the stages of civilization

[dense fractal]

are we gonna see the birth of society in isle next season after lp

[hushed steeple]

They said the realms all represent three things:
• The stages of life
• The evolution of civilization
• Times of day

which includes rain as a time of day for some reason

[stone reef]

Man one day we may just get a lore season

Unfortunately tho it would have to pertain to new players
But it could still work
Especially considering that the 'lore' is just breadcrumbs strewn about the realms

Oh man imagine wasteland but covered in overgrown grasses and vines n stuff

[astral sequoia]

eden is beans at 3am

[dense crown]

Damnnnnn

[astral sequoia]

the spirit is forest mama right
why is she traveling with the prince

and forest mama is evil yes

[pale mason]

i think it's a Spirit

[warped linden]

Me watching the trailer: "wait, this is supposed to be sky light awaits trailer!"

IS THERE EVEN A LORE IN SKY

Help I'm so confused

I've been playing sky but I still don't know what is the story lol

[astral sequoia]

welp you’re in for a long ride

[icy spruce]

HEHEHWHHWHAAHAHAHAHAH, A LORE MOFF I SEE

[frozen pivot]

the timeline we play on is centuries after the catastrophe, the lore is basically; elders fell, established cities, created tech, king came to play, created big boom boom tic tac, it explodes and voila

[astral sequoia]

nevermind that’s the wrong iceberg

[frozen pivot]

megabird wakes us up, yeets us to do cleanup, the end

[astral sequoia]

megabird is the name of the galaxy
also apparently a goddess who makes moths

[warped linden]

I know this but I want the more explained story and complete lore I'm tired assuming the stories just from the drawings in the walls 😩 I don't speak pictures

[icy spruce]

psst, hey lore moff…wants some docs

[frozen pivot]

welp tgc can provide that, not us, all we do is theorize and believe wat makes the more sense for us

[spare lynx]

Bro yes, like when I was a moth, I studied the paintings so hard bc I wanted to get into the lore, but then I gave up trying to interpret it all pretty quick lol

[warped linden]

Oh god I'm a moff again

[astral sequoia]

Spirits are possibly cough heart dealers

[oak stag]

wait there's something like this?

[icy spruce]

lore moff, but u r prolly not a moff in Sky it seems..

Anyways, wants some docs lmao (about lore and theories and stuff ig)

[astral sequoia]

yes

[warped linden]

Well I only play since Assembly lol I'm a moff, but with an elder hair 😣

[oak stag]

assembly moffs yeeees

[warped linden]

Also yes please gimme ur docs😩

[icy spruce]

Okao

[oak stag]

may i have it too? @icy spruce

[frozen pivot]

theres lots btw

[spare lynx]

May I also have docs pls?

[warped linden]

I rly like gibli movies that's why the new trailer trigger my soul so bad

[lofty rover]

Ayyy assembly moff brethren!

[icy spruce]

Sure, just wait

[hushed steeple]

I got the compilation of dev quotes called lore doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE

[warped linden]

I've been trying to learn the stories from the walls since my first day and I got no clue

[hushed steeple]

Its just useful tidbits. No pressure to read it.

[icy spruce]

Anyways
*dumps the whole lore doc*

Lore Moff Doc (ESSENTIAL, credits to Bricky)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing

The Canon Lore Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing

The Theory Vault
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing

Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing

These are just theories and all, don’t gotta follow them lmao

(No pressure also)

[hushed steeple]

Also I think the two main points of actual hidden lore, are King and Megabird. They not explained at allll.

[warped linden]

So a bird that called megabird exist?!

[astral sequoia]

king propaganda

[hushed steeple]

Kind of a bird? More like a...uhhh

[lofty rover]

Megabirb. Makes for great fried chicken.

[icy spruce]

Yep

[warped linden]

Oh god I'm a moff

[astral sequoia]

fried galaxy legs

[icy spruce]

I love some MFC

Megabirb fried chicken

[oak stag]

Is the megabird the one outside Citadel?

[warped linden]

this player needs guide to the lore, help them

[frozen pivot]

no pressure, lore's not that deep

[icy spruce]

Beta left overs

[lofty rover]

We wish. Cause I accidentally step on it most times (:

[spare lynx]

looks over at tgc

[hushed steeple]

Also theres Prince/King who shows up in real subtle ways EVERYWHERE and “isnt around to be saved anymore” the Eden elder.

[astral sequoia]

tgc employees looking at random people in lore chat talking about things they didn’t intend

[icy spruce]

KING PROPAGANDA

[astral sequoia]

so anyways these things are theorized to be pre corrupt krills
there’s a very long explanation but I’m not bothered to explain it all currently

some people think it’s an elder manta and some call it krillmantawhales
I just call them manatees because it’s easier

[warped linden]

Someone explain the season of prophecy please cuz it's the only season I feel important to know

[astral sequoia]

trials?

[frozen pivot]

its a season focused on the prince's journey

[astral sequoia]

oh so the four elements lived in peace until one day the not fire nation attacked and only the prince can harness the 4 elements blah blah blah

[lofty rover]

I feel it's neither. It has a horse mouth. It's a specie that doesn't exist right now.

[hushed steeple]

The mural is the Prince heading to the trials, winning the elements, giving them to the elders, becoming king maybe.

[astral sequoia]

and then there are cave paintings with 2 dead moths in every trial

[icy spruce]

Starting of Sky

Trials exists to find the chosen one, shiny boi (Prince) descended and speedrun trials, Prince got crowned as the chosen one

(A THEORY, NOT CANON)

[lofty rover]

Speaking of.. pics chesca up.. let's go trial

[frozen pivot]

now as u can see, there is alot of different interpretation, theres no clear explanation to anything lore related cus tgc dont give them out

[astral sequoia]

the trailer was a prequel though, might have gone extinct
or it has its only food source taken away after the stars fall and they try to krill moffs in order to get their light back

[warped linden]

Did the prince use the spin glitch or rocket?

[frozen pivot]

if u want to find clarity, u find it urself

[hushed steeple]

Prince crowned king, darkness is chased away, the elders use the elements to make the land flourish

[astral sequoia]

do you see the krill

oh god there’s a krill

[hushed steeple]

Krill prolly existed forever.

But theres like 500 theories they are robots or corrupted things

[warped linden]

I'VE BEEN WONDERING IN THE CAVE FOR DAYS PLS DON'T TELL ME TO FIGURE IT MYSELF 😩

[astral sequoia]

here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632004389137154048/804720434620792842/SKY_20210129_092637_.jpg look at the dead bodies

[frozen pivot]

ask specific questions lol, thats easier to give thought about

[hushed steeple]

8 fallen bodies.....8 students in the prophets memories......

[astral sequoia]

and one prince

[icy spruce]

Starting of Sky

Trials exists to find the chosen one, shiny boi (Prince) descended and speedrun trials, Prince got crowned as the chosen one

(A THEORY, NOT CANON)

[frozen pivot]

clearly i havent looked at prophecy murals long enough, thank u kamilico

[astral sequoia]

you know that feeling when you type like a large paragraph and then you accidentally type a word and everything gets deleted automatically

[hushed steeple]

There is a kid fallen in “follow” spirit memory too. They found him. That child is theorized to be the same one in the murals.

[icy spruce]

same

[astral sequoia]

sounds like a plot of a certain game with suspicious individuals

[warped linden]

Is Eden in top of vault or something

[icy spruce]

Ye, Eden is the mountain

[warped linden]

My math is easier than this lore

[hushed steeple]

Theres honestly not much solid lore thats 100% proven. Basically the only thing 100% canon is: the stars fell.

[warped linden]

Isle and vault didn't get an element light

[thorny garden]

It does looks like most students have died in the ice trial bc of how windy and slippery it is
And water trial bc of the poisonous water
Fire trial bc of the krill like things and probably starvation (dk if I said starvation right)
And earth trial bc of how confusion and the yk where you get to the end part you have to do some jumping
And they probably also died from starvation

[hushed steeple]

Correct!

[astral sequoia]

The ICE trial?

[frozen pivot]

now the question of why they didnt get an element is wat were trying to figure out

[astral sequoia]

air right
isnt air trial just ice with wind
fire trial is literally just darkness with candles

[hushed steeple]

The trial of water, patience. The trial of earth, patience. The trial of air, geez im running out of patience.

[frozen pivot]

it do be like that tho

[hushed steeple]

Jk I love the trials so much.

[warped linden]

So? Is there any explanation u know

[icy spruce]

All wisdom is secretly Patience, there are no Fire, Wind and Earth all Elders got Water /j

[thorny garden]

Yes
Ice trial has slippery grounds and is hella windy

[astral sequoia]

the trial of fire? patience and the 4th dimension of darkness

[warped linden]

I'm trials average enjoyer

Also a basic questions, can someone explain what is "the stars fell"? Like, the stars in the space?

[hushed steeple]

Forest gets water, uses it for rain. Wasteland gets fire, uses it to power turrets. Prairie gets earth, grows a harvest. Valley gets air, powers windgates. Vault and Isle are unique realms. Being the entrance to skykingdom, and the closed off vault.

[hushed steeple]

The stars are Elders and Ancestors. People. Prolly.

[icy spruce]

Ancestors and Elders (well, Elders are more like constellations)are Stars and they fell into the World of Sky

[frozen pivot]

the only theory that kinda makes sense imo is, isle and vault have a greater role than using the elements to cultivate their respective realms, isle being the sheperd and vault being the knowledge holder

[thorny garden]

Maybe the Eden king was the one who created those creatures (krills and fire krills)
This can explain on how dark and scary golden wasteland is

[frozen pivot]

rather they aint have no time building them cities when they already have purpose

[warped linden]

Oh god so we still have real stars in the sky?

I might make u confused but I'm more confused cuz my mind made me confused more than I made people confused so I'm more confused

Basically, I'm confused

[frozen pivot]

it do be do be do ba do be like that tho

[icy spruce]

Imo, I think dark creatures are just corrupted light creatures

[hushed steeple]

I thought the people stars ARE the night sky stars. But then like. Theres still night sky stars in the game.....

[warped linden]

That's what I thought

[astral sequoia]

wasteland is actually kind of a warzone and factory
I believe it also serves as some kind of eden fortress

Also krills may also be sort of guards as they krill moffs who are intruders

[thorny garden]

Eden king and golden wasteland elder probably had a big war

[hushed steeple]

I think lore wise, it is sky stars that fall. Like in switch trailer. Its like how some cultures believe their dead become stars?

[warped linden]

So originally there's no Eden elder, but the prince became the elder of Eden (?)

[astral sequoia]

There used to be one oob which showed wasteland elder standing over a fainted king

[frozen pivot]

gw is a would-be industrial part of golden valley if u follow the theory of the two cities being one, the battlefield is just an aftermath

[hushed steeple]

That was part of proph mural. It was just stored there.

[frozen pivot]

actually, gw in itself, is an industrial realm. its where tech were cultivated and advanced further

[warped linden]

C'mon tgc look at us! Just release a book or movies

[hushed steeple]

I heard in a dev update video they mentioned an artbook in the works?

[astral sequoia]

Wasteland is the only place we know where there’s a large factory which supposedly makes manta juice to power diamonds
Large bones (whale?)
war helmets based off whale/ coelacanth heads
manatees have lights, were mounts and now don’t have food. Corrupted manatees inside the remains of mantas?

[bitter shale]

release thy artbook

[thorny garden]

Lmao yea father, mother and parents look your children are making new books and movies

[warped linden]

The switch trailer shows the real stars are dead and fell

[bitter shale]

but we got stars on sky in game

[frozen pivot]

forest temple is a factory that makes diamonds out of manta juice

[bitter shale]

wait hol up just a sec

if the game is Sky, and we are children of light... does that mean we are stars on sky?

[thorny garden]

It does look like a manta which is slightly corrupted and damaged

[astral sequoia]

well yes
forest elder may be evil
Wasteland factory also works as fort before eden

[hushed steeple]

It would be pretty cool if the game actually started out with no stars, and as you return spirits, see them again. But that takes continuity, and I don’t have that level of faith.

[warped linden]

Also the lore more makes sense if it's sky light awaits instead of children of the lights

[frozen pivot]

itd be more cool if krills werent so lame too

[hushed steeple]

Forest Elder pin poem seems to indicate she feels pretty guilty....

[thorny garden]

We basically are a food chime thingy
We die, our body gets dark and becomes a statue, we reborn get all the wing lights a.k.a old fallen spirits or maybe us

[bitter shale]

the light awaits for our return, but now we are already the children of light and the light didnt actually told us to return to it-

[astral sequoia]

used to be evil
She keeps a scarred whale as her pet

[frozen pivot]

i mean, she did create the first factory

[hushed steeple]

Bruh, from what I seen of light awaits updates, they changed the story all the time. I honestly don’t believe they got a story pinned down

[frozen pivot]

they only say they left it open ended, but there is actually no lore

[astral sequoia]

ok theory that will be disproved immediately but it’s funny
all realms happen in the same dimension at different periods of time and each elder is a president
yes I know this is impossible

[bitter shale]

maybe it once a mutualism relationship, both need each other company. but then the elder started to egt greedy and now it more into parasitic relationship????

[thorny garden]

But we just wanna create new books and movies
We ain't makin no lore

[warped linden]

Am I the one that thinks they actually have no storyline? It's like look at hiking grouch and tell me if they care with the lore

[frozen pivot]

thats part of it

[astral sequoia]

theorizing about nothing is fun
also why would they make a lore chat if that was the case

[thorny garden]

Yes but actually no

[lilac stone]

The new switch trailer was a huge lore dump, is there anywhere I can find someone discussing about this?

Also remember when we thought isle used to be a sea

[hushed steeple]

Anyway. I was supposed to go bed an hour ago. I should have learned I would be tempted by lore chat! Goodnight yall

[bitter shale]

in here my man

[warped linden]

So they have the idea to write the lore cuz they don't have it really completed

[frozen pivot]

sanctuary was a summer season, they wanted to create smth thatll radiate summer cus of the pandemic raging on

[bitter shale]

imo the sky level actually raising when we arrived

[astral sequoia]

And it worked
Still my favorite area aside from oob places where there’s nobody else

[lilac stone]

Ah, my first season pass

[thorny garden]

Ah my non existing season pass which I never got

[icy spruce]

Ah, the Season I was born to…Sanctuary

[warped linden]

Is the elders actually a Giants?

[bitter shale]

ah yes, sanctuary moffs

[lilac stone]

It was enchantment for me

[spare lynx]

Ye, I think I remember seeing somewhere that sometimes seasons "break canon" or something to help with the season story or smth? Idk correct me if I'm wrong

[bitter shale]

is that tomie? in your pfp?

[thorny garden]

Ah yes rich people who can afford a pass

[astral sequoia]

I’ll participate in any season that includes floaty skills and different honks

[icy spruce]

eyyyyyy

[bitter shale]

tomie my beloved

[thorny garden]

Same

[lilac stone]

Me when I have rich skykid friends

[frozen pivot]

they said that to address the manta glasses having glass despite glass not existing in sky, not specifically for this tho

[bitter shale]

next season gonna be filled with millionare skykids

[thorny garden]

Me when my friends don't give me A pass

[bitter shale]

you guys have friend?

[icy spruce]

Your friends gives passes?

[lilac stone]

remember when we thought isle was a port

[warped linden]

So how will the season of little Prince connect to sky lore

[frozen pivot]

which im conveniently going to bring back, where do the do be do glasses of manta glasses glass tho?

[warped linden]

Is it a canon or not idk I'm confused

[frozen pivot]

its a collab

[thorny garden]

You guys have rich friends?

[lilac stone]

Idk it's just a universe clash

[astral sequoia]

probably not

[lilac stone]

[warped linden]

Is it... A multiverse? Lol

[lilac stone]

Probably