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The French version of Sky genders some Sky people
For example the crying spirit is a female
And the spirit with the red cape in Vault is also female
Wait no not Vault
Hhh I loose myself in translation
Well anyways
These two spirits are female in the French version
I don't think it's a very important info but good to know
Well, not in the French version, apparently
It was not to pass off things as canon or that they should be (insert gender), it's just a random fact I noticed in the French version of the game
so i went to the forest temple and found these structures on the side
It's most likely different in the English version because English is MUCH less gendered as a language
I think thats the extension of the temple you go in to go to Valley
Um a french version of sky?
Ok
Hey guys, what r u guys talking about?
/yooooo this is quite an interesting find
I thought ppl have always seen that ????
uhm king
Ohohoohohhohoohohoho
/im seeing that the first time!
so, what about K i ng
uh he's all over the game and haunts our every move
of course
Gonna bring back my majestic art from last year
ooo
I
/amazing ali
It's totally what happened
shush, Megabirb fan
/he was defeated by rocks, we are rocks in a way
noooooooo
That's why the king isn't anywhere in the Eden castle
He fled because there were too many boulders
this is false, lore moffs cover ur ears
i mean technically if you go with a theory we are rocks so
Yes
Doesn't change the fact that he probably tripped on rocks with that giant mecha of his


So did the King got defeated by Valley Twins? There’s a huge stepping stone at their temple entrance
They probably made that ledge to make the temple king-proof
YE SHALL NOT PASS THIS LEDGE
No
I mean King was powerful
Twins no
I was joking 
I look back at some of the sky concepts.
If it really was like that I think the game would be so much better
Definetely
Its not his fault he forgot to install knees 
Definetely
I think we might actually be in the second phase/story arc? First phase ran from Gratitude to Rhythm, then the seasons from then on were very different.
Actually, Assembly may be the finale of the second phase?
Indeed, I am also interested 
Perhaps
Because the lication of the spirits?
Location
Gratitude to rhythm spirits are scattered on the 6 realms
While sanctuary to assembly got centered on their own perspective realms
Kostas im sorry please continue-
Hey guys, what's the topic of the day?
How we doing with the new isle intro that's most likely a bug and shouldn't be here yet
Hello!
Hallo
Does anyone have any idea what does the new starting cutscene in Isle mean? What is going on?
Uh havent seen it yet because everytime I try to see it, it yeets me to the ground
So uh, do you have screenshots if that’s okay?
:D
No, unfortunately I don't have any :(
(If I sound passive-aggressive, I’m so sorry)
Oh okay, that’s okay
Time for YTube
YOUUUTUUBBBEEE, I NEED YOOOOUU-
But it looks like a remake of the old 'wake up child bring our lost stars home', but now it's about spirits and now I'm confused
It's like everything we knew, or we thought we knew until now just poofed into nothingness 
Ohhh
Ye, still confused
hmmm
Ohhh
I’ve seen a vid about it
Ye, now that’s just
Uhm
Confusing
isnt it the wls telling us to save the fallen spirits in the new intro sequence?
Maybe. But wasn't the old one more about 'the stars' aka wl?
which when combined with the theory of the wls being like part of the prince and
=
would mean the prince leads us there
no, werent the stars the spirits?
I thought that stars = wl. Even in sky lingo we commonly name them stars. Just what I knew, dunno though
I know the wls were once called stars, but I mean the stars in the intro refers to spirits , right?
its like how we sometimes refer to the elders as "Resh" and whatnot
huh, who's that, @orchid jolt?
In this new one, yes. Which contradicts what we knew or thought we knew until now. Or am I the only one confused here?
in the beta before realease, wls were once called stars i think. Once the game was released, they were already named winged lighst
Yeah, and since we all commonly referred to them as stars.
But since the new sequence was introduced it seems like not makes sense anymore
they were never called stars in the official game
just in the beta
ALEPH, BET, VET
GIMEL,
DALED,
HEY,
That is true. Yet, krills are called dark dragons and no one calls them that.
Yes, but lore-wise they are not krills
its like a nickname
people call them that but its not their actual name
I know... that is exactly what I've been saying. Just like they are called winged light but some people unofficially call them lights and they're known as that stars in sky lingo
IM SAYING THE INTRO NEVER MEANT WINGED LIGHTS WHEN SAYING STARS!
Either way, we're getting distracted by terminology here. The point is, what do the new murals in Isle mean lore-wise?
It literally showed a star falling which grows wings and a child forms around it...
YES BECAUSE THE STARS WERE THE SPIRITS, ELDERS, PRINCE, AND US SKY KIDS!!!!
Wait what
The winged lights are literally skykid souls/essence, thus basically skids
BUT THIS DARK DRAGON IS SAYING THAT THE STARS IN THE INTRO REFERS TO WINGED LIGHTS! SORRY IF IM BEING RUDE!!!
They seem to know that
i explained that they may have BEEN called that, they arent called that in the official game
i explained how its similar to resh and daled
@orchid jolt who? 
Uhm... I was just trying to make some sense of the new cutscence. No need to get offensive about it
mkay mkay, let’s all calm down
Yeah, new intro... what is it about?
Uhhh cause the ancestors fell down first so maybe they slowly build the civilization?
But then elders came next
And they progress more quickly
And then Prince
Stuff happened
Explosion
Darkness
Now
Idk
one sec
ok, the new intro has a part where it seems to be the winged lights talking
if the winged lights are indeed the prince (in some way) this may confirm the theory that the prince is guiding us, also evidenced by
=
it does haave a part where it seems like the wls are talking to us right?
ok, yeah it does
Ok... so stars falling down and a trail leads to a skykid hmmm
but before that it also says to return our spirits
oh wait
i forgot about the statues in eden we save
the "our spirits" could refer to how bring them to the stars
wait no then that would mean the wls are imprints from many different people
insteaad of just one
hmmmmmmm
Is there something hidden below ..
..Isle of Bug?! :eyes:
Ican see a long rectangular shape burried under the water!
||Probably just a visual bug||:SkyLOL:
This is my ruff translation of the murals I can see with the current bug in Isle intro cave/tunnel
8 A long time passed. Now I appeal to you.
7 Go forward. Bring back our spirits among the stars
5 The darkness came, making the stars fell...
6 ...and with their light, even us dimmed
3 Since we are spirits, we became alot...
4 ...and we created our home here among the clouds
1 When we were united, our light was infinite...
2 ...and together, we lived in harmony
These in different order, because thata how I could see them, backward, but the numbers should the chronological order
I saw other messages too, not sure what is their place/order, since the bug is a mess
It has come the time to go
Start by answering the call of the Temple
#screenshots-and-videos message
In another screenshot by this user there is even another piece:
At last, my child... You are ready
Is this the confirm of sky kids being sons of the deity of Light, once calle Megabird
??
Isle Of Bug
Murals... With captions👀
Part1
Isle Of Bug
Murals... With captions👀
Part2
Hiya guys... I have a question. I'm kinda confused as to why the Rejecting Voyager is "rejecting" the Isle Elder. Check the video to see what I mean. Does anyone have any ideas or an explanation?
Thanks so much! 
They aren't rejecting the elder but the miner
The... miner?
So that picture is NOT of the Isle Elder?
Why do they have a staff and birds then?
Ihmo the that spirit is telling the miner to stop the escalation in that direction. 
If you ever oob in there, you can even see the last bit of that tunnel is perfectly aligned with the hall of the door above, if that miner would have continued it would have break in
No, that seems indeed the Elder (even if in Prophecy murals it seems represented with the horns/boat mask)
If you relieve that spirit you will notice in the various step of the memories that the Rejecting Voyager is with a labourer with a pickaxe
Finally found my old screenshot
I wonder what the Star Field Memorial is. Is it a leftover from Light Awaits?
I'm also wondering why part of the area is damaged. What do you guys think?
Found at the Valley OOB I don't know the name of
the twins played sports ball too hard and broke the arena
bridge
sounds like something they'd do
honestly they probably got too competitive and broke the bridge during a fight or something... so yea
!commands
I command you to sneep snorp
!commands
I command you to sneep snorp
I spotted that too, but I am not sure if that was always there
From what I know that was supposed to be the old Colosseum, before global release.
When I was a moth, till the preceding weeks before Season Of Dreams, the end of the races Stadium was much simple: no gold spinning thingies, no vip seats, no lateral doors. And no giant soldiers statues (the same there are near the Star Field Memorials)
OHHHHHHHHHhhh, that makes SO much more sense. Thank youuuuu!
The Star Field Memorials is still there? It appeared in beta first and were told that it was basically a leftover from a scrapped concept 
Although it resurfaced recently, since Dreams
I think it’s called the Twilight Stadium
yep, still there
what if the spirits were always spirits?? they never had a solid form
and they only died because of the Storm blast
Highly doubt it, but it’s still an interesting topic to look into
Why did they call themselves “spirits”?
because thats what they were
What you’re trying to say is that they were nonphysical souls?
I doubt they were just souls, after all we always free their corporeal statue at the end of every relieving memories.
I think maybe they and their passed away relatives/friends were still i harmony after death, but when the dakness came that dimmed their connection with the spirits
Who now are wanderer and lost without out help to ascend them
Ye
After all, even in Tearful Light Miner we see 2 of the original mining crew dying under a cave-in
Then the last friend is never explained why he died too... Depression? Infection? Noone knows
Or committing it...
Wait I was talking about the tearful light miner
wouldn’t be surprised
Damn, i thought he was marked by their loss, but to even committing it... I never thought..! That would be even sadder
She knew there was only one way out, and that was up. Sadly she could not ascend that easily...
...good lord, if you just watched two people you love get crushed and be unable to save them, then watch the only other person with you slowly get drained by some parasite
and you bury them
and...I really wouldn’t be surprised
That’d be a hard pill to swallow
when I go into the cave I often pray in it momentarily
if they all die and turn into spirits where would you bury them?
maybe they were always souls, just semi-permeable?
as in like some stuff can pass through them but some stuff cant
makes more sense
Anyway, has anybody witnessed the english captions?
I tried my best to translate them, but I might have missed the original depth of meaningful words chosen by TGC
disagreeing but ok
just on the basis of my theories that all rely on them having been physical once
aaaa
yeah nvm im delusional
Me?
no it ok
i wont continue if im gonna be rebutted
no continue
I’m interested
clearly theres a better explanation and evidence contradicting my theory
nono its really okay
I had done that too for a long while
there are graves and lethal things that show they had physical bodies so like why would i ignore that in pursuit of my theory
Don't undermine yourself. After all having solid gravestones could be a great git of them being corporeal
but then “all creatures are born naturally into the world” destroyed my belief of that
now I believe them to be sort of like war elephants, or cyborgs
selectively bred
wait no the Prophecy mural probably destroys that too
You or anybody
as we see krill separate from stuff
???
well they existed before but were then modified??????
I mean, I guess that if they have gravestones they were probably actual living beings with normal bodies, but were killed and buried, with their souls remaining 
And of course, where are the bodies of those who weren’t buried? They were probably decomposed, and buried naturally over time.
but I’m not the best lore speculator so don’t take my words for granted
since we're talking hundreds of years that would be a good explanation of where their bodies went
I don't think the way up as an escape path I would consider it those sort of stairs as solid path which only one Spirit couldn't have built on her own.
Maybe that little mining cave was digged from above to the bottom and those blocks of the stairs were already there. Meaning the 2 survivors of the cave-in were never trapped down there
That..that was a figure of speech, to go up means to like die and ascend
The spirits must be able to still sort of interact with the world around them
so maybe miner never died in the mining accident but actually died visiting them?
like if there was a way out then maybe she got out
Visiting the place that killed your friends was a dumb idea
Or else there isn’t a way to explain how the crabs that are cooking on the spit in gw got there
and then while she visited them the Storm blast n stuff
the cooking crabs also present the idea that they had to consume to live
I’m pretty sure she died alongside them
or at the very least it was a function
B u t
We don’t see much food anywhere else near other spirits
And you can’t convince me the butterfly charmer eats butterflies
Same
Maybe I starting to understand less and should sneep snort 
The crab spit looks too new to have been made before skids
How would they consume food anyways? They don’t have mouths
That’s good for your health
But anyway, I would like to know if anybody witnessed todays Isle Of Dawn's bug
Me!
3-4 times actually
so it was an optional function to eat food, not a necessary one?
they probably thrived on photosynthesis
P l a n t s
B u t
There were new murals on the intro tunnels and it would be anice to read the original captions of the murals, instead of my ruff translation
That’s not what I got though
Because from those captions I got the feeeling it wasn't the winged light speaking
As some stated before
But maybe, ihmo, maybe it was the voice of Megabird m
It’s a spirit
It may have been that they used to originally eat food, but upon being killed and turned into spirits, they don’t need to.
The crab roast in gw could be because it’s still in some spirit’s instinct to eat, such as we saw the scardy cadet sleeping. Not a necessary action, but one to make them feel happy.
In the one I got it said, as spirits we soon became many
Yea good theory
Or sometimes (by what Ive seen from the nastymold's YouTube video) it seems the captions talk in 1 plural person
Uh what?
"with the stars united, our light was infinite"
Spirits seem to have their own brains
cool
The person who drew and narrated the murals obviously knew that skids were gonna come, that narrows it down
I think
But megabirb isn’t a spirit
Hmmmm probably
the Prince is though
and tbh i think the King and Prince had different ideas about how to run the kingdom
so like Prince cant save themselves from their demise now, but hopefully there will be someone in the future to set things right
Mhm
and the fact he made a point to say if they had listened also suggests there was a way to stop their end but in the pursuit of something else the King didnt stop
Ooo
Prince really said "Ya'll we're gonna die" and everyone else was like "no" so he wrote a will
like pfff
Lol
Well I think it’s megabirb it said a long time has passed the king is already dead how can he draw the murals
And also it can be his fault that the kingdom got corrupted
Wait that’s not the intro in live is that in beta ?
The new isle is in live now
i think the prince wrote it before they died
as like a call to help
message in a bottle from the ocean?
The prince isn’t a spirt
A skid
Hm
oooo that also makes sense
It's their constellation that was mostly depicted
Ye
And they're supposed to shepherd aren't they
Elders are also spirits
if prince is a skid why hasnt he rebirthed yet, like skids do?
Well there’s a thoery on new gen skids is us and old gen skids who don’t rebirth like in eden and the prince
It's now first-person
i'd love to read this theory if you know about it
What’s the topic?
I like debates
Ye I know I think there’s 4 gen skids but I forgot it so like the old gen skids were sent in the sky world to save and then they failed because they don’t rebirth and the new gens skids didn’t fail to save the sky world but darkness is still in the sky world lmao and then we sent spirits and elders to orbit to get our elder hair
Yes
And if you notice the prince has a different body
He does
||
The spirits of this realm have long-awaited your arrival… and your light.
With the stars united our light was infinite… and together we lived in harmony.
As spirits we soon became many… creating our home here in the clouds.
But darkness came and the stars fell… and with their light we faded away.
A long time has passed… Now we call to you.
Go forth child. Return our spirits to the stars. ||
goodbye now
Bye tehn
Bye!
Nice
Hm the placeholder intro since gratitude looks like it’s drawn by megabird and the second intro still looks like it’s by megabirb but the new intro really looks like it’s drawn by a spirit because it’s in cave where spirits can go in not in some place where there are reset walls and wind walls
What happend
Do yall think the cutscene island still has the murals—
Hm no we can’t really go there like I said reset walls and wind walls
I think they’re still there. I saw a recent YouTube video where they were visible
So it can be there
Yes, the new opening confused me tbh. It really does sound like spirits talking? I feel like there are too many we’s.. it’s confusing to get a grasp what each we is referring too… spirits, sky kids, stars?
Lmao ik but I was just curious because a way to OOB there might arise and I'd be vvvv disappointed if the murals are no more
Yes
PLUS
Wasn't the isle elder the one who welcomed the shiny boi
So, i keep encountering the whole sky kid generations idea and if prince is gen 1 and the eden statues we save are gen 2 or 3 and we are gen 4. There is one generation missing, the sky kid statues before the sacrifice part of eden could fill the gap, but there are two kinds, the ones covered in crystals and the clean ones. I think this would mean 5 generations instead of four. Also, gen 1 has 1 member (prince), gen 2 has 2 members (crystal statues), gen 3 has 3 members (clean statues), and gen 4 has 63 members (sacrifice statues). Gen 5 has a limitless amount of members (us). Im considering the statue generations of 2 through 4 by furthest from the red diamond to closest to the diamond
And whats with valley seasons and birds?
WAIT IS THE NEW STUFF LIVE?!
Idk, the new intro thing was a bug
Mm so I can’t talk about it yet?
The bug was reverted, so everything in live should be how it was before the bug. Don't mention anything if it's not in live right now
Mkay. I am worried of missing lore chat when it happens I want to be there to yell
Most companies when doing an event that takes place in a cold environment: parkas and other warm clothes.
TGC: TWEET TWEET MOTHER DUCKERS
I just mean the seasons:

So uh. Whats this about a placeholder intro? Is it just the swirly with the fishes and boat guy?
Ah you read my message
The placeholder text was I can’t remember lemme search in yt lmao
Yep. Early early LA stuff seems to be the stuff that escaped
I can find no video of the manta cage rescue and theres only like 3-4 pictures of eden crown
Video of what now?
Apparently early early beta had a cut manta rescuing mission where you free mantas from cages. And thats what the clock on forest temples stairs are for. BUT I CANT FIND ANY VIDEO TO PROVE IT.
Ohh
So, i keep encountering the whole sky kid generations idea and if prince is gen 1 and the eden statues we save are gen 2 or 3 and we are gen 4. There is one generation missing, the sky kid statues before the sacrifice part of eden could fill the gap, but there are two kinds, the ones covered in crystals and the clean ones. I think this would mean 5 generations instead of four. Also, gen 1 has 1 member (prince), gen 2 has 2 members (crystal statues), gen 3 has 3 members (clean statues), and gen 4 has 63 members (sacrifice statues). Gen 5 has a limitless amount of members (us). Im considering the statue generations of 2 through 4 by furthest from the red diamond to closest to the diamond
What's not allowed?
A silly word thats not even a cuss
I don’t really consider more than 2 gens if you consider Prince an entire gen as his own. Like with the statues before having friends names as if they where people you met in current game world. That idea carries over with the orbit angels having friend names.
And the comment that got deleted: but that might just be myself -poofing- everyone elses fun.
Well, the ones u save dont have names in official version, even in orbit. U see ur friends in orbit but its not the ones u save
Plus I believe it was an elder rebirthing that caused skykids. And elders are supposed to be like demi gods and not rebirth. For one to do it is an anomaly with odd results and reasons. In personal headcanon at least.
also as to why they would come back every week in lore
I think the prince isn’t on his own well if pyre was here I heard the gen skid theory from him
Aw, yeah.
O
Do you think Wasteland is cold :0 it's after the Valley and Vault has some snowy sounding stuff on its floating islands
To me it looks like it would be not so cold in there, maybe even warm. But thinking about how the realms positioned there may be something cold in the Wasteland but how cold tho 
Like it gets progressively colder like Isle, sunny and bright Prairie that shifts to chilling rain in the Forest and then it's just snow so maybe the Wasteland is legit colder than I imagined
Ye prolly
The vault is cold because it's underground I think
Or because we go up
Shouldn’t it be hot
Vault is inside a mountain of course it’s hot also vault is really closed
I guess since the new murals are now on Live, even if it’s unintentional, I guess I could talk about them here now!
I feel like the narrator who talks to us may be Megabird itself
I had this whole theory that the Megabird was actually just all living beings (stars) together as one
In a way Megabird is pretty much all life itself
And as far as I know, the narrator in the new intro most likely isn’t “one” being. They say “we” quite a lot, hinting that it’s not one person.
Then, at one part it says “As spirits, we soon became many”, implying the narrator are the spirits.
But at the same time, they aren’t because the first line the narrator says is “The spirits of this realm long awaited your arrival”, as if the spirits are also seperate from the narrator...
Air conditioners
The narrator both speaks from the spirits point of view, and also from outside their point of view. The only thing I could think of that explains this is Megabird itself
Yes
Hmm, don’t think it’d be the Prince, as I said before the narrator talks in the spirits perspective, and also outside their perspective, meaning this narrator is the spirits/ancestors but not at the same time
Does this look like an essay..?
Nothing beats abdjjoi tho
Chesca,set up the chat got krilled
Yes
Fineeee, gather around the bonfire, I'm going to play a lullaby for you! 
Typing for 10 hours
Imagine typing for 10 hrs only to say “K”
Wuhwhejsjsjsnns
Pfff
Okay, that’s not far off then! 😆

I also had that theory that all living beings in Sky are actually some form of incarnation of Megabird
Like that “We are the universe trying to understand itself” kind of thing
Idk, maybe they just appeared
And what happened before the spirits
Well, we don’t see anything else rebirth except our skids
spirits are the original inhabitants, they were there before the elders fell
Hmm, we don’t know that tho
it can easily be interpreted as the other way around
would it make sense tho
Hey does anyone happen to have that one very old concept art of the spirit "cleansing ritual"?
Hold on
thank youououou
You're welcome !! 
@pseudo heart 
chat looking for wl
Oh that's cool 
Ikr
I see that a fight almost happened 
But it's understandable
ahem
Anyways, what would eden and golden wasteland look like if it wasn't so..
Chaotic
For me i think it looks like a steampunk version of Gerudo Dessert
Hold on I'll search that up
with a military too
golden wasteland looked like some sort of factory/port
since there are boats scattered everywhere
Really? I thought it looked more like a monument of sorts
it also happens to be home to the two biggest explorable boats
I only saw boats in Shipwreck, and FA
that’s interesting too
Eden has big pipes, I think that'd be the factory one
Eden might be the main factory (or is having a separate one) but GW has factories everywhere which makes me think that realm is the center of industrialization
Now I'd wanna see that
boats in graveyard
pic credit to @spring blaze and @exotic berry
The first krill area is a factory, and the rest are far in the background
Oh yeah, i forgot about Graveyard
It would be nice to see what they used to look like 
The factories?
Yea
Pfft
inhales
imagine tgc just un-wastelands your golden and the graveyard bones become alive
The closest factory u can still find is Forest Temple
that’s probably the most intact one
correct me if I’m wrong,I’m lore moth
Yeah, that’s what I mean 
Lore moth.. 
I’m a lore moff too dw dw
If it was a factory what would they sell, yes probably weapons but other than weapons what else?
Power diamonds
The most theorized ones are diamonds, like what Ali says
I'm more of a moff who questions lore
Wonder how those work 
Pretty sure Tom Zhao’s website shows it-
Yeah that
OOOOOOOOH
This is the same mechanism as in Forest Temple factory and Golden Wasteland's Broken Temple
tasty
and that makes power diamonds fruit rollups
Ye, smth like that lmao
yeah it gets deeper and darker sorry
Oh uhhh lemme just write the instructions of that illustration
Yeah
So it is true
Lore gets pretty dark at times
They do kill sky creatures too 
Yeah
lore chat is where the mind gets blown and the braincells shared
Why am I surprise?! We humans do that too!
Exactly
that’s true
Man..
if you think about it, Sky is just a reflection of real life
Told in the eyes of a child
a cautionary tale
the moral of the story is if you don’t want burnt shrimp in your dried ocean,be nice to the environment
Diamond Press 101:
- Raw material goes in.
- Start press stamps raw material into artificial star
- Artificial star is imbued with energy inside this chamber
- Finished artificial stars come out of the troughs
By "raw material",, light creature essence
Actually it does make sense considering how would they make wax to make candles
Raw material might be a mix of manta juice and darkstones or smth
Ye
not quite
despite how dark and hopeless sky’s lore is,we skids still hold on to each other and persevere
But it's got smth to do with those creatures
the power of friendship rings true even in death since the way we pass is by saving the lost ones

YOU'RE NOT MAKING THIS ANY BETTER SKY BOT! 
Let the bot sneep, at least we can do chaos
Me?
Oh i c
Tbh I want to know more about king-
here goes-
The King is a figure which was prominent in the concepts and they look like this
it’s said that they are the ruler of the sky kingdom and some theorise them to be the Eden elder
Is it because his head is at the top of the gate 
maybe,not too sure
We don't know what they actually do in Sky but TGC does confirm that there's a Prince and a King who plays an active role in the lore of Sky
There are theories that they are the shiny child on the murals in the cave of prophecy
Wait a sec
i’ll get you a pic dw
King pics ?
the mural i meant
however if you’re looking for king imagery i can pull up some other pictures
here’s some slightly closer pictures of the graveyard king statues
lore field trips with pals
My mind just can't stop imagining king with wings on the sides of his head
i mean he could’ve
He'd look like a wing light 
there are also theories about king/prince being the first child of light and megabird being their mother
this is megabirb ala orbit cutscenes
they’re a cluster of stars,believe what you want lol
I thought they were strands of hair as well 
It just goes to show how I get everything wrong about the lore
oh don’t worry
most of lore chat are just headcanons
Oh good
most of the things are based on concepts,but that doesn’t mean the lore is set in stone
please feel free to ramble and share your thoughts,because in terms of lore,there kinda isn’t any
Oh okay
Is there anywhere where I can read the explanation of the murals of the prophecy cave
Or can anyone explain
i’m heading there soon so I’ll get an explanation with pics
I found this doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14uVgsmI5GTpanqaXUdLWZLg2ZLiP6FfGr44fZYi6Zww/edit?usp=drivesdk
Also remember there are no correct theories and you are free to make yours :)
I'm sorry to interrupt anything that's going on but I'm thinking about how Juggler spirit is the only Sky person ever with a colored bang of hair
Thanks a lot 😄
The cosmetics of rhythm were designed based on birds, tho lore wise idk how they dyed their hair maybe it's a hair pin? Or mayby a dye that was used in ancestor's times.
Maybe!
Though that raised another question, even though it's not directly related to Juggler, how would albinism look like in a Sky kid, or what would be the alternative for their species
Maybe a naturallack of warmth in their body which makes their skin looks duller or their hair darker
Like a burn out candle
Maybe there's no albinism we don't know if they even have skin or not or what they are made of 
Ah that reminds me if the concept
Hold up
You guys still drop that around?? Dang, I REALLY need to update it sometime... 
Oh it's yours?
i found it in my docs app he he someone shared it here
Yeah, its mine-
I just made it sometime before Prophecy came out, while it was still in Beta
Since I may have accidently ran myself into spoilers
Well, more like I did it on purpose cause I couldn't stop myself anymore.
Some of it is wrong, since those parts were things I assumed about the trials, that I didn't check and confirm
Who remembers that time when the TLP teaser got posted? The Lore chat was on f i r e

Coming back to this
Sort of; Season Of Rhythm also introduced the TS system
It's also the last season before the Android release
Enchantment also had its own area
my bad i forgot enchant 
Wouldn't active mean that they are still doing things in the present of the sky cotl timeline?
Like I get if its meant to say that they play a major role in the lore, but to me active makes it sound like a current event
at least to me, lol
Hmmmmmmm
Guys...
Met a capeless newbie/moth
few days ago at home space...
I have dragged through the force-field of ||eden||
Once we got through, it just went poof
Question:
The capeless thing with a help of a friend does not work anymore 
It really isn't a lore question..—
**#questions-and-help **
😅✌🏻
Ahhaahhaha ;; you know what I meant ;;; English is very soup rn
Oh its ok. I understood that it was probably meaning that the prince/king played a major role in lore. Just wanted to check to see if it was anything more
I was shocked what is this 
Looks like a platform to sacrifice the birb or something
from light awaits. Used to have a quest apparently
You can see it working in this video
https://youtu.be/JP8bjfxnR-c
It was a quest in pre global release sky
Ahh flying quest. And here I thought the birb gonna be sacrificed 
i mean dont u want to? 
Yesss and the storm strikes down and uh
The game is supposed to be calming and nice, but
following GT's minecraft theories, it really do be that popular to hide dark lores on seemingly peaceful games
the player character (sky kid) gets excited to die on a weekly basis
all for those sweet red candles
all hail the king.
🗡️ 👁️ 👄 👁️
S h u t
Megabird supremacy
it do be like that, but regulars doesnt talk either
PRINCE IS LORE! KING IS LIFE!
judt waiting for lore moth questions
Lore chat needs some new fuel 
doubt that
since the incident it just, well, died more
it was dead before, now its deader
what incident?
Yes?
welp there was a tirade of misfortunate events that took place
we are listening
trials?
only the prince, master of all trials could stop them
but when the world needed him the most, he vanished
I don't understand anything 👁️👄👁️
countless years passed and skids found themselves with a mission
oh, its still going
and although they were resilient, they still had alot to go through before they could save everyone
Keep going 
is there more?
ok
does anyone think theres a lore related reason for why the seasons that were especially tied to valley had an emphasis on birds?

everything have an emphasis on bird
not really other than the citadel is filled with them
its an ever occuring theme especially with the masks
think a name for an oob in valley in a different language is literally translated as thousand bird city
what other seasons have bird masks?
fellow dreams moth 
i dont think gratitude, sanctuary, enchantment, assembly, or prophecy had any bird masks
well only rhythm and dreams
exactly
O what is happening
but its pre dominant enough to assume that it has something jn the works
and arent those the only two that were tied with valley? And i dont just mean one spirit of a season being in valley
although i guess u could connect the appearance of masks in the season to its story content
the point im making is the seasons that take place within valley have an emphasis on birds
rhythm and dream have a theme about dancing, dancing can be metaphoric to idk, freedom i guess, similar to the movie Rio
birds dont have much to do with dancing. I mean there are bird songs. But why valley?
wym
is it just coincidence or something more
birds love to dance
im not good with my words and i cant explain things clearly but what im basically trying to get at is
not everything is on a surface level
same
ok.
some are metaphorical, and tgc have a pattern on that
citadel
think of season of dream similarly to a bird's growth
there’s a giant bird right in front of the gate and it seems important
wait a second kitsuu
the chick stays on the nest but is curious about the bigger world
but why valley?
i guess it could be about having to leave like in migration
becausr
since valley is a cold climate
valley doesnt have a proper season yet
and it needed an overhaul of new features
it was stale
bland
until the changes courtesy of dreams
thats whu
its also to build story
to add to valley's lore, wat was once were
wat was once have
so they may be trying to make valley have something to do with birds? Like how isle is butterflies, prairie is mantas, forest is jellyfish, wasteland is krill/crab, and vault is spirit mantas?
hmm
i dont think so, but thats a nice observation i havrnt thought about
its to maintain theme
now that i think about it, the realms slowly shift the creatures
isle starts with butterflies and shows a few mantas while going to the entrance to prairie
prairie has a focus on butterflies before the village section
then it shifts to mantas
forest has mantas guide you through the areas and in the end introduces the jellyfish
valley is weirdly lonesome...
we see some crabs in forest and sanctuary
so
wasteland starts with crabs and then moves to the krill
vault starts lonesome and then shifts to spirit mantas
and vaults starting area
its a methodological introduction for a better emotional journey, the game slowly opens itself from the playful beauty of prairie, to the solemn forest rain, followed by the triumphant beat of valley, i dont think the placement of the creatures have that much relevance on the bigger picture
theyre just there
has areas only accessible by a group of sky kids so you could say vault starts with sky kids and then goes to spirit mntas
its just something i noticed
its something that seems unintended but worth bringing up i guess
well ye, i didnt notice that until u mentioned it
regardless, i still believe its just to maintain theme
imagine krills in prairie
even as a moth, ud know its out of place right?
or feel its out of place
oh so a protagonist’s typical childhood
sorry for ping lol
i keep seeing people in wishlist saying they want mega krill when we already have two kinds of krill
not many seem to mention the existence of mega crabs and the possibility of seeing a live specimen.
its basically just an equivalent to the elder creature orbiting sanctuary islands
but ye thatd be cool
we have an advanced krill already people!
the ark murals just show a krill, no indication of larger size to my knowledge
portrays a krill seemingly more chaotic in appearance than the common ones
how?
more horns, or spikes iirc
..
and larger
so like how they portray creatures like mantas being softer and spirits being more circular in the drawings
i seem to be forgeting something
can you post a pic of the mural ur talking about?
in the meantime, ill share the evidence of the mega crabs existence
the crab caves in forgotten ark near the ship show a mural with 3 crabs, one larger than the other two
the crabs over the fire in graveyard are larger than normal crabs
and im done
and take that same knowledge and apply it to the krill im talking about
I dont remember much about the krill mural
i better get paid for this short expedition tk take a pic of the mural 
all i know is it is on the other side of the ship than the guide and near a ladder
oh
u dont have to go on an expedition
WHO PINGED MEEEEE
||no one||
this is the last one that should have pinged you:
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Ok, prolly ghost ping
oh
3 sets of horns, longer appendages
oh well here u go anyway
see
Uwwahh i miss this channel
Hi chesca

Yuhhh
someone with a made-forbidden name
I
Heh heheh
anyways
try saying ur name
Prince
P sure it was
is it alef
@frozen pivot who? 
Alef
sorry, never heard of them, @icy spruce 
Yuhh

The fact is my name is Alif... Then... I changed it like people usually call me
ye
I mean, ye main account’s name is Alif
What story now
Idk
guess it is a regular same old lame bland krill
Hmmm?
i was hoping it was an elder krill atleast cus atleast that isnt as lame
Why dont we just imaginate that
Hmmm he live in Eden
true, canon is bery vague
meanwhile elder crabs have at least two things going for them
Basically the Abyss Mage that corrupt The King
ye they grow
but we never see a large one alive
Waut this one in.... Sanc?
or moving
Ahhh
careful with hebrew letters, might awaken the bot
You also one of older fam here right?
Hahahaha
even though i'm a moth with a vast amount of knowledge, these names have eluded my grasp 

E
shh
time to name an elder Vuv
dont let em know
Owaighty
also, there are advanced krill in the game
Ehhhh
they are in eden
you know how when u get close to a krill in wasteland, u can keep ur flame if they dont charge u?
Ye
well, get near one in eden and you get extinguished
Naniiii
O
Ohhh
what words did u use?
Prolly there’s a censored word
sound em out
Do u remember with one question
theres censored stuff
yes
ah ye
that is censored
What happen to that
Wh
Also, please don't bypass chat filters
Ta daa
Hmmmm


