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yeah that tracks
either all that, or it's further proof for my crackpot theory that the memories were all holograms handmade by people in vault using their memories and thus there is no limit to what is shown/from what perspective
I think they were injured so darkness was able to fully take over them?
I don't really remember the piggy back sadly
honestly I like this theory too. Just finished Owlboy not too long ago so
i've played through owlboy and i don't remember anything lol
I kinda don't agree with hologram theory tbh.
Since the spirits' powers do things
ποΈ π ποΈ 
the elder or something put memoir in hologram to pass on message to the future owls or something
And in many cases you can interact with them too. It's like memories and some consciousness that they left behind
soul inprint
but i don't see why holograms/robots made of light couldn't do that
Holograms in theory would just be limited
I don't get the limited in that sense vibe tbh.
spirits with strong enough emotions, attachment, or regrets
plus if the whole skyworld... itβs , in the sky. βheavenβ
you donβt fall to your death, your fire, or maybe soul? gets extinguished
I want to talk about something but i need to wait till next update

Best of luck waiting

i think only orbit is heaven
soooooo... purgatory then? the sky world
sky to me is earth,
stars! they become stars. Your friends are stars too so... where does that leave us?
Their lights reach us but not like our local star the sun,
Their light doesn't give us warmth.
It's cold and just guides us.
so krill just be angry edgy emo spirits?
Krills are beings that predate sky too since we see them in murals
They seem like the other end of the spectrum
You can't have a world that is all light
where there is light, darkness follows
The holograms could be like the ones in the Fortress of Solitude. They can interact with the person but they aren't emotionally there. They carry information and memories for the next line.
But the thing is, it's their emotions that are trapped heavily
Instead of just info
It's emotion based info
Which makes you wonder if it's something personal
looking at the season of dream and current season, they seem very personal
Holograms- reminds me of the concepts for the vault diamond lamps
Ye s
it being holograms doesn't exclude the possibility of it being personal, like these could be mind replicas/scans
yeah that's the basis for it, vault tech is nothing but holograms and how exactly do they store knowledge into cubes
:V ooo
I thought the same thing to
All the things from the 3rd level is just a spilled hologram image of that level's realm
scholars are the only ones that could prolly read the scrolls
so it being used to store spirit memories seems odd
in the sense that its very out of place
Scroll!!! Oh wait idk if it will add to anything but i the welcome spirit was a traveler in light awaits he had a map too

oh ye
but i havent seen anywhere else that have some sort of formed literature, be it runes or symbols other than vault
which leads me to believe that even that knowledge was exclusive to scholars
lumberjack?
i only remember em chopping the tree down and almost toppling it over on some spirits
Huge ol' red flag
but if u meant the tablet as in the headwear
i think thats just ur old regular headwear
same one the shipwright has or the rest
except scholars ofc
welp atleast he apologized
The one that almost got killed by the tree had a book, yes

ight amma relive
we're discussing spirit memories?
showtime
Spirit memories?
I'm coming
The darkness in the night holds the stars in the sky
While the sunlight surrounds the shadows in an embrace.
The two are the same my friend
β―οΈ
I wanted to ask if someone knows why the Eden portal is different when we're at home normally, and when we return home while being after the point of no return in eden
Like there is one more "mask" on the left of the portal
Moreover, while being at home after the point of no return, all the "masks" have shinning eyes, which are shinning with a color corresponding to the realm they belong too
BUT the daily forest mask wasn't shinning, which is pretty strange
Was it a lag or something about lore?
I think that means that since you didn't return the light the kingdom falls into darkness
Ooh
If you look at it, you can see that there is not an extra mask or an extra set of glowing eyes, just that one of the set, prairie mask, has its glow in the wrong spot. I think its a bug. This happens to me too
and the forest one is the angular one, the non lit one is prairie
Oh yes I said stupid things
its ok
on the portals, the only mask with the diamond on the forhead is isle. However, as you can see in vault, all of the elder shrines (in their realms too) have the diamonds except for valley and forest
also isle doesnt appear on the eden gate
and the door to the elder shrine in isle looks the same as the door that we open to get to the second part of eden
the top of the door i mean
Hi... I see a video about a thing that they call... Tgc's original king and this king use a star shape mask... What is this king?
I saw empetea video about it just now lol
Saw it from definitely not bea
I didn't notice what channel i see, Im confuse
My bad yes from definitely not Bea lol
I had no reasons to go in this channel until now 
Who was that elder ;-;
It's kinda similar to GW elder
Some friend talked me about him I think, he was designed to be in Eden
It's the king?? Something
Ackkk its 4 am and im supposed to sleep. But here my mind became full awake again π
Emptea akfjdlslsdksl
I CUNFUSED THE CHANNELS πππΏ
are we talking abt the king hahaha
Hot dog man
You are an enjoyers
my favorite hot dog man
King Resh hmmmmmmm
sorry, never heard of them, @nimble swan 
π
If we call him Hot Dog King? '3'
First time seeing that auto response from skyscout xD
Lol
Weenie man....
I have read some lore docs but I just have basic lore info on my head but from some old art that they have posted the idea of an king appeared to be since the beginning of the game, ended up "deleted" for the lore but I saw somewhere the king is still out there but not like that.
Woa
Judging from the designs he's like around everywhere like a lot
yasss
There's still statues everywhere and stuff shaped like him
^
Where can we find this statues?
I want his spear xD
Wasteland is plagued of his statue's
Oh its bea?! :0
u can find them in golden wasteland
But any realm you can see stuff shaped as him and well the temples too
I shall go there later
If I was shaped like that, I would also put statues of myself everywhere
I should go too...
And take pictures π€π§
I should probably go to starfield memorial as well
As I tried to show in the video, if your diamond is completely drained they cannot spot you, but the second it refills they finally target you
I am a Bea
You can find statue at the top of isle temple gate too
Woah!
king statues my beloved
And yeah wasteland is full of them
yeah it is
That man another level of narcissistic if he's Literally everywhere π§’
Oh
π
It got censored but anyway
So my feeling of being constantly observated is real? Owo
Anyway yeah there is also the theory that he didn't get the statues made
Glad I'm not the only one ππ§
I mean, you are watching your skid in a place with like atleast 100 other people
Also did anyone spot the home space ghost chibi?
The wha
π€
I saw them yesterday probably someone oobing
Ghost? O3O
I know there's more players around me but like an omnipresent figure is watching me π€
I feel the same...
Why did devs remove the king ;-;
They didn't really
Oh
They just made the king a bit more vague
Oh
He still there but not as you imagine
To make lore chat suffer
LMAO
Kkkk

king trapped in the Eden diamond theory 
π
I LOVE THAT THEORY
Yeah that's a theory
The diamond at the end of eden? That is the diamond?
Maybe... He is the diamond owo
yeass
Ye
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Do we have any info what the king's behavior is like?
Ohh I see I see π§
Im new to these stuff;-;
We know that his statues are rampant in war struck areas of wasteland
I just wanna know where the art was found because I have never seen it before
Hmmm..
Probably is the Eden elder
How did a weenie man video turn into this
The what now
XDDD
Do you think HomeSpace a canon "realm" or some meta?
I think home is just an intermediary thanks to megabi powers or something and not an actual realm
Since home space is where we land after Eden
It is definitely part of sky
Yet not a part of it
Is the king good or bad π°
Just asking, because I was rethinking about the Eden door
It's actually up to interpretation
There are remnants of this elder meaning he has to have some impact or maybe a connection to what happened to the prince. I mean he works in the background maybe the elder does the same too.
Yeah lol this is what I think at the moment nothing else
Cuz idk if he's related to krills lol imma just read the pins
Krills feel like natural beings cause they were already in murals
*Alef
even though i'm a moth with a vast amount of knowledge, these names have eluded my grasp 
I think his get corrupted by darkness and now his a broken and lonely king T^T
There are quite a few theories bout king.
What was Isle Elder name again ? π
They were just really old concept names
Ohk
Not even most devs know them
Do you know the elders name? I've searching them but mostly seems to be fanmade names π I wish there's was an document that has the names
Hence they trigger the bot and mostly banned here
Yeah, I know it adviced to forget them, but I still find it useful
Or maybe he's corrupted and he's just watching us get decked by rocks and laughing like a troll.
Yeah now it's just fanon
I call him Bird Master :v
There weren't canon names. Just temporary placeholders
Yeah like I said, the king is basically your interpretation of the story
The elder with the firework staff π
A story, which, is also your interpretation of a broken world
Any way Isle is missing in Eden door
What even made it to break 
Mostly the isle, is like a prologue
I enjoy the amount of fanon this game has accumulated. It almost makes the game more enjoyable to interpret it in different ways.
And I tink the round shape in the door is a sign to remember him and his staff. He who sacrificed himself to let the other elders
Wait, the prince tho, is he the gw elder?
Kind of like "you shall not pass" Gandalf
no
Prince is commonly the name for shiny boi
The prince is a background character influencing parts in sky secretly. You can see in the trials
He's a sneaky boi
The prince's symbol is the prophecy pendant
He was t he first kid according to some theories
Wah im getting overwhelmed
Ahaha Ik the feeling
Oh my, what a big nice lore Γ§wΓ§
So he probably stopped the darkness to shield the only breach open to in frotn of Eden door to let the 5 escape . This way the 5 Elders could imprint their powers to seall Eden
Just take one thing at a time
Oooo
Ohhh i thought it was a tower, but a mask~
And that's why in my theory I explain Isle arriving to us broken from ... (as seen from afar) Eden Mountain
Also, remember most things are theory.
Yis
Pain 
So canon gives confirmed things but feel free to let your mind loose.
When I look at the pic of the king, there's something that looks like a person at the top? 
I noticed too
Mecha suit probably
Corrupted version looks like the final boss in Hollow Knight
Ahaha
Most likely
It looks like more human person in the mask ....
King may look big but he's actually very small compared to prince
This is great π
Mini moths with tiny spears vs corrupted.
Yeah so maybe that's actually a person and the whole thing is a pedestal to put him on top of
Does the corruption have to do with the dangerous fluids in gw?
I thought the king and the prince were the same person skskswksk
We've come to fluids
There are a couple theories about that
Wasteland was probably a place with a factory/ facility
That has to do like contamination no?
Improper waste management smh mh head xD
Yes
That produced a product (which is widely believed to be diamonds)
Ohhhh
Could explain the mutations that we see as corrupted
The sludge that comes is by something from that process is what many believe
Be it battery juice
That weird spider looking thing in the concept art
Or byproduct
Ahh to be honest, I am a lore moff and fun fact, have not seen any concept art or read any canon material
So I am not the best person to ask that
Can explain the rain in forest tho.....
Looks like the krills like them, but there are no krills on the part where you'll ride a boat to get to the forgotten ark tho
There is
I think its just cold water xD
There's krills in ark
Just one just look up at the sky π
Not that ark, on your way to the forgotten ark
There is krill above the mountain from where the boat passes
Oh
If im facing that. I'm going to draw the line and just rethink so I really want to fight a spider that looks like that with so many arms. I'm no Hollow Knight. I won't be a hollow moth on the pavement.
The giant dragoons that krill moths yeah I don't notice them either
The way they cause so much anxiety and that red light
Lol I just didn't read anything at first so I don't let my mind be influenced
I see a krill I run or hide
If I see something that looks like a 50 foot kaiju (I probably misspelled that) spider no. No. I can't do it.
I couldn't escape them, i just have to be really sneaky and observant or else imma lose the wing buffs;-;
Tbh after playing I have realised krills are just dumb
I thought you said not even 24 hours ago that they can't be outsmarted?
We were talking about Apex predators
Oh they are apex cause of their size
Oh
And environment
And I did say that once the whurtles came in they gonna whack em
And whatever that big thing was that went extinct
Could you imagine if a krill had legs and was on the ground. If we had to do a trial like that.
It's because all of these aren't there that they became rampant
Play an melody to the krills and they leave you alone 
That would give me nightmares
It took me a month to go past the door in wasteland
I am yet to finish it in its entirety
Centipedes with that size. I can already feel goosebumps.
They already look like insects
Tysm guys
but i have to do my business 
Wouldn't have to imagine much
If they did wriggle around like them
The back and forth. No I could feel the crawl on my skin
Okay no lol I need to sleep now and this isn't what I want my dreams to be made of
The krills are actually Krills π they are little creatures the whales eat.....
Dream of the horror krill Resh
sorry, never heard of them, @hushed steeple 
Dream
Wait whales π
Are there whales in sky no?
There are whales in sanc
Oh so that's what the big thing animal was in the sea π€π§
And the creature you see in the sunny forest, before wasteland and in orbit
Is commonly called as whurtle here
Whurtle
Interesting design ...
Not much known about them
They don't appear in any murals I think, I may be incorrect
And there are just 3
Now I'm just interested what happened with enchantment season I love them so much....
I know they were traveling and crashed in that place gahh
As of now
Hmmm
The murals on the ship
Yess
Most likely tell they were hit by a storm
Storms on sky 
There are beliefs that whatever took down the skyverse like the Eden had something go wrong bringing 2012 to sky
Also impacted the travelling ark
Fun fact: Eden means storm
I'll have to Google lol
I see very curious π§
I swear I have heard Eden before but I can't remember where
Like some religious meaning
Garden of God makes sense
Tbh someone else told me about the storm thing so
Anyway I have heard it as a common name of place
That's all
Yeshh, thanks for the talk now I gotta go to explore well the places and take photos π’
This is canon? O3O
idk, I think concept so yes-ish
Bad interned conection here TwT
Just ask whenever. The chat here is mostly dead anyway
I was thinking that one of the most movimented chats
The chat lives on darkness and king propaganda, that's about it
Does that mean we are free to spam
XD

I wish lore chat would have more people talking in it, unfortunately that isn't the case. Maybe more people will join KP eventually.
I have heard stories of its former glory
There was a promo on the day the TLP thing dropped
The lore of the lore chat UwU
By former glory, itβs more like it was a very active channel with lots of discussions
Ye
I was a moth during Prophecy so I didn't get to spectate that 
Depends on the season. Dreams didnβt add too much to lore, and neither had Assembly (in terms of murals and such), but Prophecy did, which is why a lot of the lore people went crazy
As an assembly moff I can tell you it's not that active now cause what even is assembly?
Though even before prophecy the channel was rather active as there were some new people coming in to discuss the runes in Vault and such
Ahhh the sound of a senpai
Dreams and Assembly are more of history of a few specific people and their goals and stuff like that, Prophecy radiates lore and underrated vibes
Yeah, itβs been interesting to see how TGC decides to build the story of Sky with each season and addition
Tho still hoping for lore
Mayben't
I could be wrong, but Iβm pretty sure the second part of your comment is beta only
Yeah
Isnβt that also spoiler?
No
Thatβs beta spoilers, pl- thanks xD
Beta is beta, only beta, apparently
Beta mostly stays in beta channels
Imagine a beta lore channel
Please donβt mention beta content outside beta channels, even with spoiler tags
Wait what is the symbol for spoiler?
The reason is because beta content may not be final, and so discussion of it before itβs released can lead to misinformation and confusion
I thought it was because of the channel name
I tried
You can definitely discuss lore specifically relating to beta information in #beta-discussion
There are a lot of lore people in beta I think
As for your idea of a new themed area, there would have to be an agreement with Sony for such a crossover as TGC does not have sole ownership of Journey
Good
!textspoiler (just for info)
Here are some ways you can spoiler-tag your messages:
β’ Type "/spoiler" at the beginning of your message
β’ Highlight your text β right-click or tap on it β select "Mark as spoiler"
β’ Type "||" on both sides of your text ||like this||
OH
GUYS I HAVE AN IDEA
In Valut there is the office, where you can get in with a tgc supporter cape
|| In Wasteland always at the beginning on the left there is the new zone for switch players, where you can get in with a nintendo Cape || (new beta spoiler)
Next year sky will be released for PlayStation and Journey will have 20 years. So are they gonna add in Valley a Journey-themed zone with a journey cape?
Sorry, beta is not spoilers so you can't put it here
!spoilers
The community generally agrees that the following things are spoilers:
- Anything after the door to Eye of Eden (but not the word "Eden"... might as well spoiler tag "shofgouaoasif"
) - What the 8-player puzzle unlocks
- Anything in the secret level including what it is (||office||)
- Beta content is not allowed outside beta channels, even with spoiler tags. (This includes beta content that is not live or not meant to be accessible)
Does anyone know what crabs mimic? I've been wondering this for a while
I wish we could see bats in the game, then
Same! Would be super cute
Wait crabs mimic something
Yes
I thought they were just.. crabs

Bats are cute... But if they put bats I hope they act like birds and not like a flying crab
The air prophet has a bat mask(I think) so there are bats, just not visible in the game. (Unless they created that out of their mind, which I doubt)
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There are many Earth like creatures masks tbh
Yeah
O yeah

But i thought that was design choice
Imagine massive spiders in Sky 
I know but it wouldn't make sense lore wise for spirits
I love spiders '3'
I respect spiders and am thankful for what they do
If I saw a giant spider in Sky, I would probably die inside
Oh my XD
Spiders don't really do anything. But yeah size wise, I will be scared. Even the huge mantas scare me
With their whale cries and kidnapping tendencies
They are big kidnapers owo
Do skykids have mouths or noses or ears..? (I'm thinking they do)

They have ears and noses, Iβve seen no mouth
Lol
I personally think that was design choice but realistically they would, due to honking and instruments, and uh, potions maybe? Idk, my opinion
This has come up as a question before, especially since thereβs wind and brass instruments in Sky that irl require a mouth to use
Yeah I guess, just saying
Yeah true, they don't visibly have mouths
Maybe they use them differently than humans? I believe their cosmetics are made of light
I imagine how it looks with open eyes
I feel like their eyes are just circles of pure light
Yeah, one theory was that they used some sort of magic power to make the instruments make sound
Or theyβre imagining it
Oh my god yes
but what about honking
This was something I forgot
But had noticed
Wind instruments. Meaning skids have diaphragms
So they only open the eyes when using a mask... Maybe the eyes cant be directly seen owo
Yet the cursed camera angle inside skid head shows nothing
I donβt really like to just say itβs magic but yes if something like that appeared in our world weβd say magic
Yeah the real world logic fails terribly in game
I feel like the eyes could open without a mask, but designer choice.
So take anything you know about human body, and burn it like some dark plants
Skids are flying birb pots
With fire core
Yep, designers UwU, but im still thinking if the kid open the eyes without a mask .. this will be so bright that will make a krill run off owo
I mean some stuff are just an illusion, like most of vault, so it's possible more things are but really, I just want to see some logic
That'd be great but sad for the krills 
Light can be very physical in Sky and Skykids can make creations of light
So they decided not to be naked
Poor krills TwT
I mean sky physics is a joke
another question: can spirits take a physical form?
O I answered this today
Are spirits even real hhh
Well it's yes as in they are tangible and have powers
Depends on their strength I believe ||like irl pleasedonβtcallmecrazy||
No as in they died
I understand you
I guess it makes sense since apparently we can
the assembly QG
Yes
I believe the Elders were able to take a physical form or at least create an illusion of it
Maybe the regular spirits could too but now theyβre all weak and canβt anymore
Though personally I believe only Elders could

I think itβs just pretending we do, we can still go through them
But they have powers like opening gates and stuff
I think thatβs different than creating a physical body
Since TGC hasnβt confirmed it either way, all theories about this are valid!
Yeah but I mean
Go wild
Istilldonβtlikecallingitmagic /please donβt take this seriously 
I believe it's yess and no.
In a way its the same, its different but also the same- (that doesn't make any sense)
I was going to call it something else then i forgot the word
But friendship is magic 
Moving objects is different than creating a body
gasps
So much confusion owo
Like I said, no body cause that will be zombie lol
Yes, but i was kinda thinking if they could move objects, its kinda as useful, despite a few things
Sky is MLP confirmed.
oh yeah it'd be nice for horses in sky
So im rainbow dash now β wβ
Sky is every other anime
Sky is an RPG
dead people revived cause friendship
Skykids being reborn because
f r i e n d s h i p 
Like, no matter their use, theyβre two different things
And if they had the power to be able to actually touch things, theyβd use it
Unless they can do it but it takes too much energy
Friendship is powerfull
Save a broken world with friendship
Skykids: yes
Sky is about friendship, so friendship is everywhere
I mean the point of sky is friendship
That reminds me of this cute moth that probably got jealous of my best friend because I spent time with them 
Geez moff, space. But you cute so you okay
I the only dark kid who run from moffs? TwT
Noooo running
I have resigned to my fate now
Well, not always i run from moffs, I become friend with two yesterday
I am a month old and many don't see me as moff anymore so
Don't worry
jk I am definitely moff
In reality we all moths blind by lights (the lights are the ts with beautiful cosmetics)
looks at how broke she is
Y E S
So... I start to run from moths because everytime I lit they candles they start to use flirting emotes with me, so I feel uncomfortable and ever let anyone lit me again ;w;
I run from chibbs too T^T
Chibiβs are so intimidating to look at
I stare at chibis and hope they will kidnap me.
They are the true dark creatures >.<
Yep, lore!
Hmm... Idk, I only know the basics
And now we know there is a king and a prince :v
As separate people?? Ooooo how??
New evidence? πππ
This what I understand, idk ;w;
But I guess its true... The king get corrupted and the prince trys to save him
wait really?
Oooo
Why tgc make us sufer with all this thinkings ;w;
Ive been wondering about what's the whole situation with the prince and king for a while
I feel like I can't find anything reasonable lol
Just my interpretation of King and Prince
I really did think they were the same person I-
Don't feel bad lol I thought so too
And that could still be the case but who knows lol
My personal thought was something like: ok the prince is crowned but after a while they become the king and go power-hungry, leading up to corruption- I don't know why but this was my first thought
But... If they are the same person... The prince became powerfull and becomes a king, so, he get corrupted by darkness owo
That was my thought too π
We having sincronized thinks?
But if they are the same person, why were the concept names different between them- a h e m, concept names, they could have changed
Btw yall know about these?? And if there are any more designs throughout sky?
The Littol crop circles
I know there's one in the Prarie caves too
Maybe representing larger constellation stars
I think about this circles too
OO
or some ritual things lol, but maybe both-
Ooooo
Ahhh I found something interesting about the Hebrew letters Alef and Resh wait lemme find it again
@hazy cliff who? 
Hebrew Letters
Do they have similar meanings or something?
It's strange tho the one in the caves is just a stick thing while the other two represent physical things we know of existing in the game I.e. Mantas, capes
No something with βWhen Resh is filled withβ something something βof Alefβ
wait, who are we talking about, @hazy cliff? 
LETTERS, STILL 
interesting
What is this bot? '3'
its too bad concept names are abandoned
Well lore chat was active for a bit, that was nice 
Why do they look so different-
The spirit with the hair never appears in any of these things
Hmmm
Also, ive seen people calling the large creatures whurtles, on the wiki they are called whales. Its due to their size, where are yall even getting the turtle part of the name from?
the bones in graveyard
?
arent of the whales
its cus of the skull
?
its completelt different from the bones of the whale in boneyard
and the skull in the graveyard looks similar to a turtle's skull
thats how they started referring to it as whurtles
whale/turtles
Can you post the comparison pics of the one in forest, graveyard, and turtle skulls?
theyre bigger than the whales and theyre different the the whales and have a skull that resembles more of a turtle
Interesting
i guess so?
think it was mentioned that graveyard bones and vault gw tier bones donβt belong to any known creature
oh no
poor bag miner getting nearly killed by the tree was foreshadowing
...later got crushed by rocks
poor guy
our beloved
this is the whale bones
the whurtle
I never even realized that was a skull, even though it's in the graveyard
they look cool
i also thought that this was a whurtle being depicted in vault's season teaser
turned out to be a collab, disappointed
how does that looks like a whurtle
I thought it was an intentionally semi-relevant reference as a red herring but hint
thought it was going to be Prince Time
but itβs the wrong prince, and I feel very mixed about it
βroyal visitorβ got me absurdly excited
were we finally going to see him
well who knows, it has potential to be a balanced crossover
to have stuff from both universes
i mean it shows a skid and the little princr
in a way that blends well with neither dominating
maybe we are prince
ye just main worry is people that donβt get the reference
I am one of them
I'm scared that one will be dominant over the other and-
Y'know
Season just being little prince
And hardly sky
thatd be hyprocritical of them so lets hope not
Yeah
also a lot of people will join then with Switch release, I donβt want a large group of new people to be confused/disappointed
but I trust the devs
cries in poor 
So do I, just gotta wait and see
I feel like itβll have elements and various references to the book more than anything, but that it blends well whilst doing its own thing
thatβs my ideal at least
what I know of LPP works VERY well with the game
I donβt really want too many collabs honestly
out of fear of coherent theme being lost
i feel like theyre experimenting with the idea tho
ye
^ I strongly agree with what you're saying, Vol
actually nvm about a conversation regarding how sentient/aware spirits are; it might go into a Beta thing
will when a certain thing comes
theres really not much content to start creating ideas not made from wat ifs about it
Spirit interaction when please I'm desperate for it
I felt spirits were a lot less kind of...there
until Assembly came along and thereβs spirit interaction
they seem to be a lot more sentient and aware than initially thought
im still speculating that qgs are special compared to the common spirits
they cannot go back now with spirit hugs
they let us one, I require more
its only fair to demand more
I too require more
we all want more
next up, we gonna see spirits walking around...
doing npc stuff
hey you!
I wanna see thrillseeker in action when he comes back as ts again
I guess im coming at the right moment here.
What are spirits exactly? Like, are they the same species as sky kids but "dead"?
Are they just sky kids who grew up? Are the spirits the normal population of the world and are the skykids the fallen stars that came to the spirits? Were the skykids created by them? Theres so many question, I would like to know more about the spirits and skykid relationship
The elders and spirits are probably more closely related to eachother than the skykids and spirits
Yes
spirits/ancestors, however u wanna call em are the former inhabitants of the kingdom, that came down along with it
Whatβs the topic?
Then corrupted by darkness, and skykids save them from it
elders are diffrrent from spirits, infact, spirits worship elders
Yes
so in a way elders are a deity figure for spirits
skykids on the other hand are..
skids
Yeah
So are the spirits alive in a sense?and are the elders kinda dead?
spirits are dead
in a nutshell, were walking clay golems powered by winglights that the prince left
spirit ded
theyβre literal ghosts that walk the earth
So undead?
elders aint dead
all I can hear is The Heavy is Dead in my head...help
but some people thinks its schrodinger's elder
i dont think they ded tho
just in a different plane of existence, kinda like how gods qre
What if the elders looked like skykids when they were alive? Idk if that would make sense bc rebirth is something important to the game, so why dont spirits just get rebirthed again?
nobody knows but u can theorize
True
Yes
Spirits - Different from elders and skykids, dead, but still are in the kingdoms
Skykids - arson babies, free the spirits from darkness, die and be reborn
Elders - aliven't(?) Worshipped by spirits
arson babies
Am I wrong though? 
i mean ur not wrong
Ur speaking facts
Elders are also spirtis
it just sounds wrong tho
Its like wasps and hornets, all hornets are wasps but not all wasps are hornets
All elders are spirits, but not all spirits are elders
At least i think
Cause they're probably the same species
they are called elder spirits
wat
Elder case solved then i guess??
I cant really remember where i heard that
bruh
Well its been a year
I know theres a poster in ||the office|| talking about the elders aswell
might be the case with the assembly kids being referred to as sky kids
Thats just the stages of life and concept arts of elders
I asked Helpbot about that one
but i hardly think that elders are spirits
Spiritkids πππ
asking βwhoβs your favourite spiritβ
mildly frustrating whenever anyone responds with an Elder
not only are elders different in size to ur common spirits, they also dont look dead
they dont appear transparent in anyway
like spirits does
So they're actually alive
only because people often know exactly whom theirs is with Elders, and then go on to talk about them
but that wasnβt the question

No like i cant really remember my moth times since gratitude maybe they changed it? Or am i
oh a fossil
Thx
as an Enchantment moth I have no idea what Iβm considered
shhhhh
Android moth
ah yes, Candlemaker nΓ©e Pilgrim
we dont tell were enchantment moths
Iβm on iOS
o h
I'm a Prophecy moth who was almost an off-season moth
is Enchantment considered veteran by the majority, out of curiosity
if so then I feel old but have a right to
Guys, dumb theory
I'll never be considered a vet because they don't exist imo
Yes?
exactly
I feel the termβs too subjective
Yep
Vol seeing the screenshots: ascends
interesting
SO WERE RELIVING THE PAST OF A QG? 
WAIT
How do they look the sme
rhey dont but its possible when the skater girl grows old
I KINDA THOIGHT THEY WERE SIBLINGS/MOTHER AND DAUGHTER (somehow lets not question spirit biology)
ok but is anyone going to
It doesnt really mean they have the same hair they are the same
was seemingly given access by the scholars...but why
i have those too but nop, the memory is too whack to comprehend
lightseekers are scholars
given access to this passage by the vault scholars
lightseekers and enchantment are scholars
yed
Theyre probably looking at the stars or maybe this is where they died
well we know very well the latter went wrong
But hair can change
very very wrong
lol
In my headcanon the spirit ran in and the scholars tried to stop him to no avail in a funny chase scene
I thought of ponytail candlemaker as being one of the Prophecy students
"Hmmmmmmmmmm sparkly place"
"SIR YOU ARENT ALLOWED IN THIS AREA PLEASE"
And also the prohecy students are dead cuz of the trials
But like look at the body size/shape
they shouldvw placed a "staff only" sign on the door
Shouldve put the beta cape seal
Lol
Blathers would love you
Definitely the same person. Thatβs why I think Pointing Candlemakervis the father
Candlemaker*
If we go by the βsame hair sane personβ logic, then that means that Skater girl could also be the younger version of the Ushering Stargazer. What if...
Skater girl moves to the village of Dreams where she becomes a great skater. Years go by and she retires, then returns to Isle. Since Valley has a lot of astronomy stuff she becomes a stargazer in Isle.
Lore chat hi
Hi
Any opinions on what Valley n Vaults elder concept animals should be if they had them?
guess not
Do you think that when the little scout being a spirit, come back at his scout base and see how his tree house changed by the time, he need help to remake his tree house like when they was probably still not a spirit like in his past?
I think the spirits who had the tree house before made it to adulthood before dying
I donβt think he
was the first to own it
What about the flag who is on but look kinda old ?
can spirits manifest different forms?
It was the trailer cinematic who really give me that kind of question
I think he looks at his pendant like βoh this is just like mineβ
I think it belonged to his family before him
Which is why the icon is the same
Or probably looking at how their tree house changed
Passed down family heirloom or something
I think children spirits died as children.
But its an interesting idea
Probably
Like the girl from dream season
I hope as the story continues we see
The βscouthoods of the pastβ
Or whatever they called it. Prior scouts.
But like what we see in New
Probably the new season will be about the collab with Le petit Prince
I want....pilot clothes.
I guess little prince also rebirths just like a skykid. Not strange to them.
Yea
Another season of rest for lore 
I will probably look later and if something wonder me, I could maybe tell it there like for this one
This is something small that Iβve always thought about, but
Iβd like to think these two were a nice couple and made bells together ^^
Oh probably
Or they are maybe friends or family
Also! I think the Vault elder was originally supposed to be very vulture-y
Aw. Yes I always assumed they cared for the fallen star of isle together like a cute family
Ah. It was Isle who was vulturey I think?
This one always interests me
Like where this one is now if we are watching their memories
One of them is also with the piggyback spirit of lightseekers
Well, thatβs where I get confused because Iβve definitely seen concept art of the Isle elder and it looked. Like a vulture, mask and all. Shrug, this is just stuff Iβve overheard
Xd
Xd
Theres some tasty parts in the concept art. The βpromotional materialβ one has βseven days of skyβ with some animelder pictures n definitions. I love them 
I dub Rejecting and Ushering βParents of Supermanβ
There we go, I knew I still had it somewhere
Actually, i think thatβs concept art for the the megabird?
Iβm not sure tho i could be wrongβ
I donβt remember where I got the image from, shrug. I feel like the Megabird wouldβve looked a little more... mega?? A little more giant and omnipotent /lh
Hmm
Shrug ^^
Maybe concept art for the megabird will never see the light of day
Ahh, neato π
Oooo wait I have seen concept art of the Megabird, something Tom Zhao drew
Thanks man π
There also one of him as like, a white....wyvern thing
πππ
.....you want to see if I can find the wyvern?
Go for it!! :D
πππππ
Well, thereβs this ^^
BIG BOIS
I swear. I SWEAR when they launch that art book my pocketbook will die.
iβm stealing these donβt mind me
It all in the pins of this channel too but.....yeah its a lot to look through
(:000 I keep forgetting pins, the only one I ever remember is uhhh
The one where they tell us not to say the old names of the elders
Doesnt SkyBot get mad?
Iβm not gonna be the one to get on itβs bad side 
same
mood
A collection of concept art, promotional images and early development screenshots shared by TGC on social media
This one is my favorite
It has wild stuff in it like vault being a city
Whoa
Thank you!
And animelders and seven days of sky and concept skykids that look like bird kids
And uh
Sneaky evil kidnapper forest
Teehee eden crown
Theorized to be the ult ultimate reward maybe? Who knows. Maybe it was Princes ult gift.
Huh, neat (:0

has a book


