lore-discussion-spoilers

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hello

[icy spruce]

wrong chat

go to looking for group

chat thing

lore chat is for lore

[median wedge]

Ou oukay 😅

[dry temple]

Today, Ms. Bloom smiles at you brightly, waving from the tree.
Have you ever wondered why it can turn red?
Ms. Bloom isn't what she seems.
I know, because I died at her hands.
On the last day, her true colours will show.
She's going to kill you all like she did so many years back.
It's too late for me.
Run.
Please.
Before it's too late.

[Ms. Bloom and the sounds her tree makes forms a great bit of horror lore]

[icy spruce]

lmao

[rapid juniper]

I have tea with her

[dry temple]

the tea…is wasteland water

(I do not know, but it's possible)

[rapid juniper]

Well the bloom tree is same as the tree in vault I call it the spirit tree so maybe the bloom tree is like a spirit tree but with blooms

[dry temple]

bUt it can turn bloodred and that's slightly creepy

[icy spruce]

hehehehehe

what if Bloom tree is like actually from vault

and bloom lady was innocent

the scholars were not

and yknow, framed

[rapid juniper]

For me I think all the scholars are evil and vault elder to E

[icy spruce]

me too

I personally think that they evil

[rapid juniper]

Ye

[icy spruce]

THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULD LIKE KING THAN THOSE FLIMSY ELDERS

[dry temple]

what if the elders are manipulating us into giving their pet gods candles

[icy spruce]

but in all honesty, they're all meanies

[rapid juniper]

Hm

[icy spruce]

especially Mega birb

[rapid juniper]

Yup

The birb

[icy spruce]

that one evil birb

[hushed glen]

Could be, exact same model is used in vault

[velvet berry]

NO

[icy spruce]

and that's why we all should make MFC (Mega birb fried chicken)

[velvet berry]

WHY

[icy spruce]

OH HI TSADI SI,, I MEAN FAN

[dry temple]

the Birb, leaning over us, eyes shadowed, talons outstretched, clawing at the spirits' faces…
"make the children offer you their candles. and give them to me, if you don't want to die again."

[icy spruce]

is the s word still yknow

lmao

[velvet berry]

Presumably 😂

[icy spruce]

okay :(

[velvet berry]

I return and y’all are indirectly trash talking my favorite elder 😞

[dry temple]

this is a theory chat for a reason

[icy spruce]

lmao

but ye, there's lots of theories

I personally see GW elder just doing their job

same with the other elders

[velvet berry]

Doesn’t the Megabird mind control theory imply that the elders are against Megabird because evil anyway?

[icy spruce]

but either way, they're all meanies

especially teth

(aka, forest elder)

I mean, they just grabbed our candle

[velvet berry]

Lore-wise I always found it funny that the elder associated with the trial for patience is the only one who couldn’t WAIT .5 seconds for me to hand them the light

[true grove]

I'm going to pour all my theories at once after the season starts

[icy spruce]

and ngl I think they're that one extremely grumpy boss

[velvet berry]

What happened to you Teth and why are you so impatient with children 😂

[rapid juniper]

Maybe in the concepts vault elder is evil ?

[icy spruce]

I mean, being stuck in limbo for like milions of years

is boring

yeah

[hushed glen]

Forest mama hates children

[icy spruce]

but like, you got ya anifil

*anvil

and hammer

[true grove]

Oh who's the water trial elder👁️👄👁️

[rapid juniper]

Its forest elder

[true grove]

Forest was air iirc ohhh okie

[icy spruce]

ye

nah, Valley is air

[rapid juniper]

No water is forest

Forest is water

[icy spruce]

I mean, it's like so windy in Valley

[rapid juniper]

Ye

[icy spruce]

especially those races

klhfdieorbel

[true grove]

Ye

[velvet berry]

Well ngl the original timeline concept painted the elders in a pretty bad light overall, but I thought TGC said that one’s not canon anymore. I at least think they screwed up but aren’t outright malicious

[icy spruce]

true

I mean, Vault killed lots of mantas

for experiments

prolly

[rapid juniper]

Ye

[icy spruce]

I mean, there's lots of bones in Vault

[true grove]

I wonder what the murals in the cave tunnel mean. I think they are like the 4 elements that created everything theory.

[hushed glen]

Wasteland elder was corrupted according to tom zhao's concepts

[icy spruce]

sad

anyways

[rapid juniper]

They’re giving the elements to tha prince

[true grove]

Prenc

Oh

XD

[icy spruce]

Fremc

[velvet berry]

I think he also died protecting us in that concept and if that happened I would cry
My faves are always the tragic ones huh ...

[true grove]

Now i remember lore moff doc

[icy spruce]

[rapid juniper]

Heh

[velvet berry]

So is the generally accepted prophecy theory that it’s about the price or king? Some people I know say it’s just us

[icy spruce]

rip concept Tsadi

[rapid juniper]

It’s about the prince

[icy spruce]

yep

it's about Prince/King

[true grove]

I always thought it was us. But most popular is the prince theory

[rapid juniper]

👈prince head

[velvet berry]

I always kinda thought they wouldn’t have given us the king pendant if he wasn’t at least vaguely involved

[icy spruce]

well, there's a theory of us being the descendants of Prince/King or fragments of them

[rapid juniper]

Ye I like that theory

[icy spruce]

or Prince/King being the 1st skid

[hushed glen]

At this point skykids are just feral children who do whatever they want

Imo

[velvet berry]

But then again belonging? I think? Had that bracketed diamond emblem on all the elders, so I’m not sure what that season had to do with that. 🤔 Or maybe they just wanted to make that symbol a pendant

[true grove]

Devs must have a basic storyline but they may not reveal anything just to keep it more open ended

[icy spruce]

I mean, imo I think Prophecy is the origins of Sky Kingdom

[rapid juniper]

The symbol for belonging is like a haert y know if you look at our clothes there’s tha symbol in our chest

[true grove]

Ash said diamond symbol could represent a lot of things in sky

[hushed glen]

It does actually

A lot of stuff has it

Kinda like the kingdom's symbol

[rapid juniper]

It’s different

[icy spruce]

oh, I remember while searching in google about what does the diamond shape symbolize and I think it was ascension or smthng

wait, I'll check

[velvet berry]

True, it’s on the elders (mostly when they’re lit), the arches and gates, us, instruments... I always figured either a kingdom symbol or something with the elders/stars

[icy spruce]

The diamond symbolizes ascension, clarity and wisdom. The exact meaning can differ between cultures and religions. For example, Native Americans from Canada, Mexico and North America see the diamond as the butterfly and it signifies immortality.

(according to google)

[true grove]

[icy spruce]

and that would make sense tbh

I mean, skids ascend to orbit

[velvet berry]

OMG, thank you, that symbol has been driving me nuts for ages. Whether or. It that’s their intention, hc ACCEPTED

[icy spruce]

I,,

uh okaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[rapid juniper]

"

What symbol

[velvet berry]

I wonder if TGC based it off any specific culture tho

[icy spruce]

I think

[rapid juniper]

It’s differnt from the other symbols

[hushed glen]

< ∆ >

[rapid juniper]

Ye

Both of them are differnt

[icy spruce]

yeah

[velvet berry]

That pendant looks more like the forest gates now that I’m thinking about it

[icy spruce]

where was belonging again

I forgot]

[true grove]

Yes, The most interesting is the belonging symbol it has been there since the beginning on our chest and on different locations like valley.
I interpret it as a diamond shell that holds our flame or soul. It could also be the symbol for the kingdom like a flag since it's visible in valley a lot and valley was built in golden age

[rapid juniper]

[velvet berry]

Wasn’t it sunny forest? Their tree home at least

I missed it so I dunno tbh

[icy spruce]

me too

[rapid juniper]

Ye we can see the symbol in our chest clearly in light awaits

[true grove]

No, belonging spirits were scattered around realms. The underground area was added in belonging. Also the final cutscene was in sunny forest

[icy spruce]

oh okay

so Forest

well that makes sense

[rapid juniper]

Ye

[icy spruce]

since Forest is also an industrial place

that makes diamonds

[velvet berry]

Ye, pleading parent was PAIN, I remember that much. But they basically lived in forest, I meant

[true grove]

It's still there but it's inside our chest

[rapid juniper]

Ye

[velvet berry]

Inside? Like hidden inside the graphics? Can’t say I’ve looked

[icy spruce]

in fact, there's a theory about diamonds being first found/made in Forest

[hushed glen]

On our clothing

[velvet berry]

Yeah, I think that was from the OG concepts with darkstone? I don’t remember... but it IS interesting there’s a diamond factory there when Wasteland clearly ended up being the industrial realm. Maybe that’s where they first started, I mean

[icy spruce]

ye, ig

[velvet berry]

Oh, I’d have to get rid of my cape to see it probably 😔

[icy spruce]

I think GW was like

lots of

yknow

resources

or space

to make diamonds

[true grove]

It's visible

Lemme find the pic

[hushed glen]

I'll send a screenshot of it
Nvm yash is getting one

[velvet berry]

Well not like the desert would’ve been used for much else, probably. There’s a ton of factory-looking buildings and whatever shipwreck has going on tho

What ARE those gold things? The forest temple has ‘em

[icy spruce]

oh ye

in concept arts

it says that those gold things were diamond

molders

[icy spruce]

thing

[true grove]

Was much visible in light awaits

[hushed glen]

Yep, wasn't on your skykid either

Kinda just

Floated

[true grove]

Also i'm surprised they had a king statue in isle back then why did they remove it

[velvet berry]

Wait, they had a what? 👀

[hushed glen]

Isle is that one realm that changed the most I think

[true grove]

Hopefully they bring him back in future 😔

[hushed glen]

Ye

[icy spruce]

wh At

[true grove]

Look in the background

[velvet berry]

The second pic ain’t loading for me 😭

[icy spruce]

how dare Daleth (Isle's concept name) remove the beautiful, majestical

handsome

KING

STATUE

IN ISLE

[velvet berry]

But man, TGC takes all the statues from us... I heard somewhere that Wasteland Elder/Tsadi had a statue somewhere too

In the OG beta, I mean

[true grove]

The pic is from the beta memories albums linked in pins

[icy spruce]

F

[true grove]

Wasteland elder never had a statue his statue was outside the temple and the temple was part of the vault

Also his statue used to be broken after final cutscene that's why it's cracked in current version

[velvet berry]

No idea where my friend got this, tbh

[true grove]

The statue like we have for the elders

Oooo that

[velvet berry]

Oh, their shrines? I remember his OG cutscene the whole thing was cracked in half, ye

[hushed glen]

I know! One of Tara's sky journey videos

I watch them myself

[hushed steeple]

Thats the mission thing yeah?

[true grove]

That is from the quest shrine it used to give you quests and it gave you some wax after the quest

[hushed steeple]

You did friend missions

It also had statues of sky kids on it

[true grove]

It was in home space then moved to Aviary

[hushed steeple]

And the panels would go down as you did the mission the represented or somethn

[true grove]

Ye

[hushed steeple]

I like home island better than aviary, more cute, more convenient. But I really would love that multi story building back, a-and maybe the nice view of all of sky kingdom.

[true grove]

Here's the beta memories playlist from tara
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKh97ggSLvdxTgYWBAUO7V_Zd4d0Yc1Ad

[velvet berry]

Sounds like Light Awaits had some neat stuff (want that statue back 😂)... but yeah, looked in the album and it had some neat lore
👀 saving that playlist! Thanks!

[hushed glen]

There's a walkthrough of late 2018 of light awaits there too, including winter season

[hushed steeple]

That it had that wild intro. More text, precious text! I think the part about ancestors shepherding light to temples might still be true? Who knows.

[true grove]

The concept of having a separate home space was good but i think tgc couldn't merge it into the gameplay. They played around a lot with when to introduce home space

Ofc it made sense to introduce home space before Aviary but then you stated in isle so you had to go back from isle to home space

[hushed steeple]

That spirit place where you light all the friends was so beautiful......untill I realized it would mean you walk up to each alter to light your friends individually. Eep.

[velvet berry]

Gosh I love those original elder cutscenes... they all seem so much less sad

[true grove]

That was kind of a break from storyline so they removed it

[hushed steeple]

Forest seemed MORE sad

[hushed glen]

One of the cutscenes for the valley elders had them spinning around and stuff, it was so cool

[hushed steeple]

The twins where helicopters. Chaos chaos.

[true grove]

Yes, old forest cutscene matches the forest pin poem much well

[hushed glen]

Now they're just demanding

[hushed steeple]

I like their rivalry now but that was a spectical

[velvet berry]

If open-world games weren’t massive and bad on mobile it would’ve been neat to fly from realm to realm whenever. Just... explore freely. But who knows, maybe the specific path you have to take has a reason

[hushed steeple]

And I like Forest’s snappy-ness better too.

Wasteland politely offering to open the gate though

[true grove]

Idk it seemed like a skip or a break from isle

[hushed glen]

Isle had that bird back then, I miss it even though I never met it

[velvet berry]

I like beta Wasteland’s cutscene a LOT. Less depressed, I guess, and the music and the combat moves are PERFECT
... Then again, if even half the theories I’ve read here are true the new one fits better. 😞 I wouldn’t be that energetic and alive after thousands of years in limbo, anyway

[hushed steeple]

The way the screen shakes too

[hushed steeple]

BRING BACK THE BIRD PLEASE CAN WE STILL HAVE THAT BIRD

[hushed glen]

There was also dead kids in isle in the very beginning of beta

[hushed steeple]

The 11 something hour long one I think lacked the corpses. They where might have been taken out then, or added in later?

[velvet berry]

Because nothing screams ‘off to start a fun adventure’ like a bunch of dead people....

[true grove]

Thanks to all the people that archived la it's a lore gem now

[velvet berry]

0 to 100 REAL quick 😂

[hushed glen]

Ah yes

[hushed steeple]

I kinda thought maybe those ones are just waiting for flame. Not dead. Empty bodies yet to be filled that never lived before.

Which is why you where one of them

But also if sky kids where still miracle friendship hope star babies I don’t know why their bodies would be mass produced and washed up on the beach.

[velvet berry]

Daleth/Isle Elder casually growing skykids in the backyard... isle grandpa wth 😂

[pastel brook]

wait who are we talking about?

[hushed glen]

Hi

[true grove]

[velvet berry]

But seriously good question
Shush skybot I specified 😒

Maybe in that original idea they were like... remnants? That we inhabit. Although us falling as lil stars is way less disturbing at first thought

[true grove]

Old elder names and Megan are trigger words because not all people know what they mean

[hushed glen]

Daleth

Dang it skybot

[rapid juniper]

Lol ye when I first came here I was confused who Megan is

[true grove]

It happens randomly

[hoary mountain]

Wait, skybot is here?

[rapid juniper]

Yes

[velvet berry]

I have never not seen people using Megan tho... and what if my name were Megan? That’d be awkward 😂
“Wait, who are we talking about?”
“ME DANGIT” 🤣

[true grove]

Skybot watches all chats at once

[harsh pecan]

Lmaoo

[hushed steeple]

Its horribly, ironically tragic.

[hoary mountain]

Also,,, thoughts on the voices heard from the blossom tree?

They're less melancholic like Eden, and seem to belong to children

[hushed steeple]

I think its the same noises as in the office

[harsh pecan]

Trapped souls

[hushed steeple]

Office water

[velvet berry]

I know TGC said something about “whispers of spring” but they creeped me out tbh

[hoary mountain]

It's not the same as office. I went and listened to all three portals

[rapid juniper]

Well if you look at the pins seraph said to use the Megan minimum also the elder names

[pastel brook]

wait who are we talking about?

[hushed steeple]

Oh

[hoary mountain]

Eden's is a low moaning and chanting. It's deep.

The blossom tree sounds like a muffled cafeteria full of children

The offices is more conversation, etc

[hushed steeple]

This is an entirely new ambiance?

[hushed glen]

Woah

[hushed steeple]

YOU KNOW I WAS JUST THINKING IT SOUNDED CAFETERIA EARLIER.

[hoary mountain]

But I do wonder a lot about the tree.

[true grove]

Yes the chanting that's the only thing i'm scared of in eden

[hoary mountain]

YEAH ITS LIKE A CAFETERIA

Also right before PNR it's a loud chanting, and voices are more discernible

I believe that's where they sampled the audio though

[hushed steeple]

I wish it DIDNT have cafeteria clatter since Its nice to have your back to it but then your camera (and ears) are super close to it.

[hoary mountain]

The spirits in the blossom tree seem pretty well off.

[hushed glen]

The fallen cry for your help and to be saved

[hushed steeple]

PNR has talking audio? I just hear the music that like “oooooom”

[true grove]

What if bloom guide has been committing rituals under the bloom tree

[velvet berry]

I don’t like the noise in the cave either, after the last krill. Creepy, sounds like breathing or something
I saw someone describe it as “the breathing of the mountain” once (saying it was the king) and I haven’t felt comfortable there since 😅

[true grove]

Yes, i'm talking about that

[hoary mountain]

Yeah.and the closer you get to the door, the more you can hear a low moaning

Like a deep omnious ooooooohm

[true grove]

Also why is there a wall, i just noticed it yesterday

After you pass pnr

[hushed steeple]

To trap you in Eden

[true grove]

[harsh pecan]

Maybe it was to seal off any possible explosion

[true grove]

Yet they all died

[harsh pecan]

Tragic

[hoary mountain]

Yeah. Most likely. But has anyone ever condidere..

[hushed glen]

Has anyone gotten any ideas on why or how the fallen are in pnr in the first place?

[harsh pecan]

I think they were doing the same thing we did

[true grove]

I think those are fallen children that came before us

Yes

[velvet berry]

I mean, I always imagined they were some like fellow skykids. Why we get to ascend right away, and they’re frozen waiting though... I dunno

[hushed steeple]

The first ones prolly went because Vault told em to meet the prince. All after went to save the first ones (and get enough AC for more resize)

[true grove]

Then we give them wing light like we give light to spirits to free them

[hushed glen]

So we're just saving those skykids, purifying the spirits, and rebuilding the kingdom?

[true grove]

Maybe

[hushed steeple]

What if after you die in Eden you actually become one too, and there is a space of time you don’t realize until someone else comes to free you?

[true grove]

Tho the cycle never ends

[hushed steeple]

Do it for the resize

[hushed glen]

My sky storyline ideas are quaking because of this channel

[velvet berry]

me who always imagined that 👀

[true grove]

That's what i believe our bodies turn into stone

[harsh pecan]

Time loop

[icy spruce]

back

hallo

[hushed steeple]

But you free more of them then the one you become. Eh. Some victory.

[harsh pecan]

Hello

[icy spruce]

so, what's the topic?

[harsh pecan]

Eden

[icy spruce]

cool

[hushed glen]

Eden as of rn

[true grove]

Oh-i remember i left a feedback to add more lore like prophecy in the survey

[icy spruce]

what about Eden :0

[velvet berry]

This all begs the question though of, if we’re here to free those trapped skykids, and someone comes to free US... what were the OG skykids sent to do? Something with the diamond maybe? Since we all seem to go towards it 🤔

[icy spruce]

prolly the same yknow

save Sky

kingdom

but failed

[hushed steeple]

Vault shows you King’s mural. She wants you to go see if hes still alive

[icy spruce]

well, bad news

he's not

[true grove]

What if it's all a bootstrap paradox we come to save the kingdom but what if we are the cause of destruction

[harsh pecan]

Well he clearly isn’t

[icy spruce]

arson

[harsh pecan]

._.

[hushed glen]

Vault elder: Okay I'm gonna send some children off to scary land
Other elders: But why
Vault elder: We gotta make sure the king is alive somehow

[hoary mountain]

I mean, we see ourselves turn black and turn to stone

[velvet berry]

Whatever it is it’s pretty heavy for a bunch of kids if ya ask me... I’m not sure what we CAN do to save anything (replayability, anyway, if you played once it makes sense)

[hoary mountain]

It's an endless cycle. I think it might be to keep the king in Eden.

[true grove]

Also bow to them otherwise...

[velvet berry]

Why would Megabird or anyone throw this at some KIDS 😭

[hushed steeple]

Skykids seem like.....a long term solution.

[hoary mountain]

We aren't saving him. We are sacrificing ourselves to.. keelhim there

[icy spruce]

anime

[harsh pecan]

Kill???

[hoary mountain]

Keep him, I mean. Also has anyone ever considered this

Structure in the back. What is it?

[hushed glen]

Wasteland ruins

[hushed steeple]

Multiple unseen factories?

[true grove]

Oh

[icy spruce]

@hoary mountain That's something a krill would say....

[velvet berry]

Those? I always figured more factories

[hoary mountain]

And how come you can see light, coming from it sometimes.

[velvet berry]

With the pipelines and all

[true grove]

THE FACTORY

[hushed glen]

Power diamond factories

Wait

[icy spruce]

ye, diamond factories

[hoary mountain]

It's different to the large factories. But it does look sort of like forest temple.. but bigger.

[harsh pecan]

Did the elders trap the King in Eden?

[hoary mountain]

You can see like, shooting stars sometimes.

[hushed glen]

There's some mantas in wasteland...does that mean
MANTA JUICER IN WASTELAND?

[velvet berry]

Ye, in the broken “temple”

[icy spruce]

perhaps, but imo most likely no

[hoary mountain]

Yeah.. we see a wrecked manta juicer in the first krill location

The king seems corrupted.

[hushed glen]

He probably was

[icy spruce]

in concept arts, he was

I think

[hushed glen]

Yeah

[hoary mountain]

They say the rocks come from a giant manta elder in the storm.

[true grove]

I think that's the old design for the obe krill area

[hushed steeple]

I feel like the loss of the king is something the rest of the elders are kinda mourning over. Kinda like, they knew he was corrupt and it was going downhill.....but he was lil at one point.

[true grove]

The machines look like the factory

[hushed glen]

Yeah

[true grove]

Maybe it's the machine that created eden diamond

[hoary mountain]

So.. you know how every elder shrine has a diamond in the middle. And at the end of vault, you use a giant diamond to summon all the elders.

I've had a theory that the reason why the elders are different is the power of the crystal diamonds

[rapid juniper]

Ye those are diamond factories

[hoary mountain]

And the giant diamond at the end of vault, along with the bringing of all elder shrines together at the top, signified themlockimg the king away.

Or the king Uniting them before.. it all went wrong

[velvet berry]

You gotta wonder what broke all that... I mean, the Wasteland factory is HUGE. Was it the krill or a war or something 🤔
Or could be just over time, but given the condition of Wasteland overall I want to say everything got broken

[true grove]

Ooo yes in the concept storyline the king gave them diamonds that gave all the elders powers like gods and made them immortal

[hoary mountain]

Which is why after the cutscene at vault. The giant diamond, is broken.

[hushed steeple]

O right. They where normy norm spirits picked out to become elders in that one.

[hoary mountain]

Corrupted, you might say. And it loses the surreal, spacelike aura of vault.

You're in a room. The storms raging. The broken diamond on the platform.

[velvet berry]

True, although that one always confused me. Weren’t they not stars in that one? I’d figure being stars they were immortal to begin with, or close enough

[hoary mountain]

I mean. It's shown that everything comes from megabird and is made of light.

Except krills and crabs.

Krills and crab seem almost

Solidified.

[icy spruce]

baaaaccckkkk

I think crabs are neutral animals

the one's that attacks are infested with darknesss

but that's just a theory

A SKY THEORY

[hushed glen]

99% of crab population is corrupt now

[icy spruce]

AND COPYRIGHT

[rapid juniper]

Welp for me they are corrupted

[icy spruce]

yep

one's that ain't corrupted are the ones in sanc :(

[hushed steeple]

There is a whopping two nice crabs in the game

Protect them

[icy spruce]

yes

don't cook them

are else you'll get krilled

and no bugs can save you

[hushed steeple]

Get mantaed

[velvet berry]

The corrupted crab theory (if not canon because of the sanctuary friends) makes the darkness sound almost like an infection tbh 😬
And on that note imma go to sleep... night, y’all!

[icy spruce]

night

[true grove]

Yes, but it could be a metaphor

[rugged jackal]

Scout Wish and Kay scouted out Forgotten Ark today, curious to see what you do with this information...

[icy spruce]

wait what

[icy spruce]

where

[rugged jackal]

Oh sorry did I ruin something

I’m sorry

[true grove]

No lol

Do you have any theories?

[rugged jackal]

I dunno

I suck at this qwq

Btw here’s the pic I missed because of the cap...

[true grove]

All theories are valid

[rugged jackal]

Well, I was just popping in to see what you’re gonna do with this information... for me I’m most interested in the catapult in the water, but feel free to use these pictures to your liking

[wild iron]

Asking this in lore discussions because this where the veterans are at.

There is a small island that lies off the cost of Shipwreck, someone told me this island is home?

[prime sorrel]

Eden never had an Elder change my mind

[true grove]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Just a leftover

[true grove]

Eden had a elder in concepts. The king is still in sky but not like other elders

[wild iron]

Noted. For a long time I thought it was some unreachable with a winged light there. I am still gonna try flying there thought.

[prime sorrel]

There are no traces of its existence not even at the end where u can see all the statues of the elders theres no 7th statue and the fact that it was in a concept doesnt makes it canonical but thats for TGC to decide

[true grove]

Look harder king is in eden too, you cannot escape him in sky

[true grove]

You cannot pass windwalls now. It's impossible.

[mint widget]

king is everywhere if u look hard enough

[prime sorrel]

Give me a headstart of where should i start looking

[true grove]

It's not too hard to find wasteland is the easiest one

[wild iron]

Look at the top of every tower.

[wild iron]

[hushed steeple]

Do you think Thatgamecompany will update the lore in the future?

I wish i could have played the story in the concepts

[solar relic]

that is a possibility, yes, but each expansion a season brings to the realms can be taken as lore too

or rather, fuel for theories

[rocky ember]

Yes! I don’t think TGC is too focused on telling the Big Picture Story aside from some hints here and there at the moment, but every season is a smaller story that informs and is a part of the world of sky. And every spirit is their own little story as well! So I think the lore of Sky is constantly being updated. Who else has been 👀 at the diamond on the desk in one of the treehouses?

[true grove]

those diamonds look like the ones in the gate activation thing in forest. They also have that in that tree house

[rocky ember]

Yeah!! I just think it’s neat that, assumably, the kids themselves are putting together these power diamonds for their treehouse.

[harsh pecan]

THEORY

I just wrote what I meant on the images, hopefully it’s understandable. I personally think the glowing boi is the Prince.

Let me know what you think!

[pastel hollow]

This is probably kind of dumb but the game says we have to bring the lost stars home right?
Did we ever do that or are they just very stubborn and want to stay all the time

[icy spruce]

ASSEMBLYYY

IS HERE

[lyric isle]

Welcome to the "what spirits did for fun" season
that's how I interpret it at least

[opal briar]

Lol new season and all the people break sky and general chat

[hoary mountain]

Hey lorendiscussion

[opal briar]

I know ,I know

Oh hello

[hoary mountain]

Servers going wild

So how is everyone

[icy spruce]

Indeed

Good, you?

[hoary mountain]

Anyone got some wild theories or questions

[pure root]

im here for the lore

[icy spruce]

Idksmfked,

Hmm

We need topic

[mint widget]

mooncow i absolutely love and agree with your theory

[median stone]

Guys... The old bug now is replaced by a new bug that suit its own cave

[rapid juniper]

Ye it changed last update

[harsh pecan]

Omg thank you

[dense arch]

after exam im planning on lore hunting, like searching every little details in sky and re-reliving all the spirits, not skipping cutscenes ||pain|| etc does anyone wanna join or something?

[flint schooner]

New season does give us a topic to ponder about!

Did these children work in the forest mines or not?
Did they run away from the hard work? Or are these their spare moments of peace, outside the darkstone mines???

[livid valley]

Oh the new season dropped?

[dense arch]

i just realized something
so um. since enchantment spirits were delivering orbs to gw elders from vault elder (frmo what i heard ) to restore gws corruption
their boat got krilled > they get stranded > they try to plant crops etc to survive > ended up dying (if they are a spirit when they got stranded and died it wouldnt really make sense for them to die again)
this means gw got corrupted before eden explosion? does anyone know why? im not that much of a lore expert im pretty new so um-
and why did they go from vault to wasteland using a boat? atleast if the vault elder thing is true isnt the boat dock path thing for elites (based on concept art)

[vague thorn]

Maybe they had to use a boat to be able to transport all the load

[shut trellis]

I think wasteland was a sea or something once, then it dried up. I theorized that krill may have lived in water before. On the ark boat, it depicts a krill. There was also clouds and maybe lightning on the murals. Maybe a storm came or something. But darkness and light were on terms with each other before. I’m not sure if they still were, probs not cuz their boat died.In the cave, one of the murals show spirits releasing crabs from pots back into the water. I’m not sure if it was corrupted yet or maybe they just wanted to do something there? the murals depicting what seemed like praying acolytes creating orbs.(miners mined the light then went to acolytes) so definitely vault people for sure. But maybe forest too, idk. I think the boat was because wasteland had water so that was how they needed to get there. Of course, this was just me looking at the murals but idk, never looked at actual canon stuff(murals are canon but just theories In my head)

Also I may have not read everything you said before writing so uh-

[vague thorn]

So I made collages of the masks. These first two parallels are my favourite..

The piggyback mask looks like the two assembly masks merged kinda. So my head cannon is that piggyback could be their child.
And the vault parallel is awesome. Even the names and characters of the spirits are similar.

And here's the rest.. I don't have many theories. So I'll look into the new season more and theorize

[thin dirge]

Now that Season is out, I could talk about the spirits now!

It was stated that they're somehow related to spirits of the realms, but I realised each one is actually a representation of the theme of the spirits of the realm

For example, a lot of spirits in GW have scared spirits and survival spirits

Its the theme of the spirits from GW

Then there's the Scared Cadet, who may represent GW

So in other words, each one represents the realms we know in Sky

Chuckling Scout=Isle?
Baffled Botanist=Prairie
Daydream Forester=Forest
Marching Adventurer=Valley
Scared Cadet=Golden Wasteland
Scolding Student=Vault

Tell me if I got the names wrong-

QG is obviously... a representation of the Prince or something

[lyric isle]

I've been thinking about the fact that spirits' memories are often their 'strongest memories'

and the fact these ones are children

talking with a friend right now and pointing out that
though a generic model, the corpses are clearly not of children

might be overanalysis but

this makes it pretty unclear when they died...unless for the ones that we see do so (Light Miner and Warrior much?)

[fierce elbow]

I honestly think that the chuckling scout has a crush on daydream forester

[fierce elbow]

BUT DAYDREAM FORESTER AND CHUCKLING SCOUTS ARE KIDS

[thin dirge]

Actually, they might even be siblings...

[fierce elbow]

thats illegal

I think chuckling scout and daydream forester arent siblings because their personalities and sizes are different

[left pebble]

Oh no oh no oh. No no no no no

[fierce elbow]

very big difference

[thin dirge]

Well, look above tho, they may be children of Isle Piggyback spirit

[fierce elbow]

You are under arrest

oo

Nice theory

[thin dirge]

Them being siblings would make sense, Chuckling Scout might be older than Daydream

That spirit does give "big bro" vibes to Daydream

[fierce elbow]

or

[thin dirge]

He could be the oldest of the bunch

[fierce elbow]

They can be best friend and chuckling scout kind of has a crush on daydream forester

[thin dirge]

Though, there would be other signs tho? Those two give a more "familial" vibe more than anything

That's just how it seems to me, idk

[fierce elbow]

NEW THEORY

scolding student and daydream forester can be siblings

scolding student is the oldest

[thin dirge]

Well, Scolding Student does seem the older, responsible type

Chuckling Scout seems to be the oldest to me tho

[vague thorn]

But kids grow up?

[thin dirge]

True

[fierce elbow]

o

nooo i dont want them to grow up >:<

[left pebble]

mama forest used to be one of the scouts

[livid valley]

Evidence

[vague thorn]

They could be siblings their masks are so similar

[fierce elbow]

so dont make them have kids

[vague thorn]

Noo don't send the crabs at me

[left pebble]

guys why are you shipping sprits

[vague thorn]

Oh no you misunderstood me i never ship people

I was just making an observation

Of how related these spirits are.. Yall are attacking me for no reason rly

[left pebble]

lmao

[icy spruce]

WHAT’D I MISS

Anyways, halloo

[hushed steeple]

Isn't a pot a human item so how is in sky world the cups too maybe they think it's a hat ?

[icy spruce]

I mean, pretty sure the spirits in Assembly are kids

So they just be like

‘Hey, what if I wear this pot as a helmet lol’

[hushed steeple]

that's funny too

boom new fashion pot helmet

[icy spruce]

Wow, very fashionable

A revolutionary design in uh fashion history

Beautiful

Stunning

Anyways

So uh, what was the topic

Ig

[graceful osprey]

jellyfish or sad face?

[left pebble]

the prince then choses the 4 elders who he gave the 4 sprits/elements to the elders,

The prince and elders explored in the forbidden forest, and they found a dark stone that could absorb the light of fire.

They mine dark stones in the forest to control and drive new technologies, and the ancestral civilisation is elevated to a whole new level. The black stone absorbed too much light and plundered the resources of the creatures, so the creatures began to attack the ancestors. But the creature failed.

In another creature's attack, the king ordered the ancestors to build fortresses and weapons. Some clues can be seen in the GW At the same time, the ancestors used the Dark Stone to build an Ark (the Forgotten Ark ). When the creature attacked again, the ancestors boarded the boat to seek shelter.

Under the attack of angry creatures, the Ark of the ancestors drove to the holy ground to avoid biological attacks. In the end, in this epic battle, the biological elders and army sacrificed themselves and detonated the Ark.

and bla bla bla lots of lore

btw theres also a giant light bird thingy that I don't know what to call

[graceful osprey]

megabird?

[left pebble]

could be

and after the war

the dark sprits cursed the prince

and eden is the leftover of the war/ poulution

krill crab and redstones are the creation of the detnotation stuff

this is the megabird

[graceful osprey]

redstones?

[left pebble]

the red things that kills you in eden'

[graceful osprey]

oh

i was confused

[left pebble]

me too

[graceful osprey]

by another game

[left pebble]

yea minecraft lol

[graceful osprey]

i call them corrupted darkstone

[left pebble]

The mega bird of light also fell asleep after the war The whole sky world was reduced to darkness...

and years after the mega bird woke up again

Creatures moved closer to the giant bird of light(cause thats their hope ), but this world was devastated.

to help this world

the giant bird of light blessed the sky kingdom, and a new descendant race was born.

and that us

sky kiddos

theres a whole different theory on how we were born

like

the 6 different maps are each in different time lines

but im not going to talk about that

I just explained how forgotten ark was made

remember you had to do tasks to rebuild the ark

yea ik

[lyric isle]

would you be interested in hearing about my...many spirit headcanons

[hushed steeple]

would you be interested in hearing about my...many spirit headcanons
@lyric isle

O h. R e a l l y?

Im very interested

[lyric isle]

unsure where to start but
I call the main one the "Wandering Jew" theory

pretty much spirits are barred from the afterlife and forced to walk the earth (basically what that 'Wandering Jew' mythology is), but sort of coexist in multiple planes at the same time
reliving them and returning them to the constellations breaks this sort of barrier, only then they are free to wander between planes (considering, say, the kingdom itself and Orbit separate ones)

the memories are their strongest ones iirc - their bodies resemble themselves at that time, most fond vision of self?

[hushed steeple]

👁️👁️‼️‼️

That sounds real interesting how spirits help each other that way!

[lyric isle]

thus why we can still see them by their graves then also Orbit

they're sort of...semi-sentient, I'd say

aware of surroundings but not really...there, if that makes sense

sort of like a complete loss of focus, but constant

semi-consciousness?

[hushed steeple]

Like-- a dream?

Maybe that could explain how spirits were able to live before the elders fell

What if the spirits were always conscious, but the diamond explosion in eden partially erased their existence

[frozen pivot]

lots of interesting stuff i missed

[hushed glen]

Same

[frozen pivot]

tho ive never looked at isle's mural that much so i didnt notice that it might have connections with enchantment orbs

[frozen pivot]

mooncow's theory is pre good

[uneven grotto]

Assembly kids have chest lights like skids. Devs said that they were supposed to be "related" to each of the main elders or something?

[lyric isle]

Potentially, yes

[lyric isle]

all spirits have that, but oooo

Devs said ‘related to realm ancestors’, not elders

the regular spirits

[vague thorn]

In another photo they have different coloured chest lights that's interesting

[lyric isle]

the Assembly troop are related to realm ancestors, not Elders

[lyric isle]

you know the horribly confusing way they rearranged the emotes?

That might as well be it, with each realm they’re assigned to

[uneven grotto]

Maybe the main kid is GW... Idono

[hushed glen]

Time to stare at the emote menu for 5 minutes straight

[frozen pivot]

time to bring out realm ancestors jailshots

its kinda odd how theres only one kid in assembly that have a proper cape

i think capes do resemble some status

[frozen pivot]

the way they only said 'realm ancestors' and not a specific realm for vagueness is just...

[lyric isle]

I have some big chart of all of them somewhere uh

for reference

[frozen pivot]

and every spirit is an ancestor, wat ancestor do they mean??????
like, do they mean the seasons ancestors

bruuuuh

[lyric isle]

realm ancestors refer to basegame spirits I think

[frozen pivot]

that also includes season spirits too tho

idk anymore

but the chuckling scout is definitely from wasteland

or very likely atleast

[lyric isle]

Why the emote rearrangement?

[frozen pivot]

that imitation for a horned headwear and his role tells me hes from wasteland

[lyric isle]

Do people from certain realms have distinct personalities

I’m overthinking

but why rearrange emotes to not be in THE REALMS YOU SEE THE SPIRITS IN

[frozen pivot]

lol

[lyric isle]

WOULDN’T THAT BE EASIER FOR US TO FIND

[frozen pivot]

i just scrolled for like 2 minutes to find the clap emote again

[hushed glen]

I always thought that people from one realm act differently than those in another realm

[lyric isle]

“this one was in [x] so is placed with the [x] ones”

isn’t that

simple

[frozen pivot]

-or add a feature that lets us rearrange our emotes for ourselves

[lyric isle]

yes

[frozen pivot]

most of my most used emotes are down below the bar so thats not fun

[hushed glen]

Immediately puts my favorite emotes next to each other

[frozen pivot]

i like the chuckling and facepalm emotes alot tho

[hushed glen]

Same

[frozen pivot]

especially chuckling cus i have no business laughing like the laughing emote

[lyric isle]

me putting the spirits together where they should be

[frozen pivot]

mhh yes, like how a lore hermit should do

BUT the assembly spirits are interesting

especially the qg

because he already remembers

and some spirit seems to be attached to certain furnitures

[hushed glen]

I'm so glad that we're able to interact with the spirits though

[frozen pivot]

theyre different from the normal spirits

yes exactly

we can actually interact with em, or atleast the qg

i was pre startled when we high five'd the qg

[hushed glen]

I just went: Oh my god I love this can we please have more interaction tgc

[lyric isle]

my dream is to hug all the spirits

please

unless there’s an actual explained reason why not

[crude olive]

Spirits are dead people

[hushed glen]

I want to hug them so bad

[crude olive]

you can’t hug ghosts

[frozen pivot]

IMAGINE THOI

WHEN THE SEASON ENDS

WE CAN STILL INTERACT WITH THE KIDS

OMG

[lyric isle]

I wouldn’t mind “hugging” them

that is, though going through them it being sort of one

[hushed glen]

Technically yes

[frozen pivot]

we hug them

inside

[hushed glen]

Yes

[lyric isle]

please

[hushed glen]

Petition to have spirit hugging in-game

[boreal nebula]

We are going to hug the Lone Scout (aka Assembly QG) but I guess it would be hard to implement it for all the Spirits

[boreal nebula]

Yeees, the old Hide&Seek (or as I call her, Tall Lady)

She always look taller, because of her neck

Oh and in that chart there wasn't yet implemented the head-thing of Vault Scholars

[boreal nebula]

That's an interesting one, even if I am not sure what if the first fallen star is the prince (I think I have a pic somewhere about seeing 3 trials of stars falling, in your case you zoomed just on one in Propechies Cave)

But I like it.
Side Note: I think we call them the 6 Realms, but ages ago probably Isle and Vault weren't realms, just the border/entrance of the kingdom and the core of the kingdom (the safe lybrary), the most outer and inner part, but not a Realm

That's why the 4 lights were divided to the 4 Realms and why this sculpture might be an hint

Dammit I don't have the picture anymor, the sculpture shown over this door

[median shell]

ok idk if someone else already pointed it out but each of the realms are like different stages of life.

office spoilers || plus in office on the idea wall thingie you can see this one picture with each of the realms and they're labeled like childhood, adulthood, etc||

like even the season events correspond with them. assembly is like childhood stuff, dreams was sort of about this girl growing up to become a skater?

[vague thorn]

Here it is :D

[real tendon]

Technically, Sky is a post-post-apocalypse

[left pebble]

all sky kids have chest lights

iron man

[hoary sigil]

I like this season more lore wise because before it seemed like the spirits were stuck in memory loops..this time you can high five them! So they're more "active" as it were?

[steel wigeon]

Can we say ||eden|| spoilers here?

[hushed glen]

Of course

[steel wigeon]

So
What exactly is the child you hug?

Or well, who/what

[dry oyster]

||Just some lore I made:||

||Chuckling Scout = Son of Laughing Lightcatcher||

||Baffled Botanist = Son of Pouty Porter||

||Scolding Student = Daughter of Confident Sightseer (or maybe sister)||

||Daydream Forester = Daughter of Sparkler Parent||

||Marching Adventurer = Son of Confident Sightseer||

||And Scaredy Cadet = Son of Frightened Refugee||

||My theory to support this? The emotes may have a different animation, but they have a familiar meaning all the same. It's possible that the spirits in assembly, are actually the sons and daughters of the other spirits we have met before.||

[hushed glen]

Sparkler parent has two kids, boogie kid and hairtousle teen

[dry oyster]

O h

Maybe, the confetti spirit then?

[hushed glen]

Season of belonging has spirits who are all related

[dry oyster]

I ' m n o t t h a t e x p e r i e n c e d

[hushed glen]

That's okay, don't worry about it

You can ask any non lore questions in #questions-and-help

[dry oyster]

Well, my points still stand about the chuckling scout being related to the laughing lightcatcher. The emotes just scream familiarity

[woven beacon]

Ok so the spirits... I know they're dead, and spirits, but do you think that on the spirit plane they reside in, they interact with each other every day like we do as players? And do you think they consciously help us along their memories, reliving them with us, bonding with us? Cause that would explain why it says to relive their memories to be their friend.

[sullen axle]

Hi lore chat how r yall today?
I haven’t read the lore of the hidden forest but i think people livin gin forest were, kind of merchats or sth. When you look at the walls of the first area, where has butterflys, you can see many boat drawings with pots. Also the are boats in that area with pots in it. I belive that area was uhhhh kinda used as a place where all pots are accepted. But why they were getting pots? Forest is the light mine of the kingdom, but they also made energy cristals too. But they needed more energy, so they bought butterflys from prairie. Yes, now we can ad prairie to our lore, since everything was all around valley, gw and eden. Their energy was coming from butterflys. AND valley was the source of light for gw! But they were giving more bigger creatures, like mantas. Becouse gw is the main cristal factory. And vault, vault was their tech place. They were trying to find stronger cristals. But that project didnt finished. Becouse king corrupted and storm has began. So that means, vault was tge most important place ever for them, it was their future. Gw was turned into caos and war, just sake of protecting the future, vault.

I swear my last homework text was shorter lol.

[sullen axle]

||i think that orbit is the “spirit dimencion” you are talking about. When you summon the spirits in orbit, you see them in their dimencion. You may question, the door of rebirth in bext to them, why they just dont go? Well, since their body destroyed (in my lore) when king has corrupted and storm has started, they dont have a “body” to get in. So they technically cant rebirth. But maybe the calls like manta or whale call, they may tried to rebirth by an animal. Or they are an animal, which means all creatures in sky can think or talk or sth, or maybe they randomy choose a body to rebirth each time they die and change bodies👁️👁️ srry lol my brain no work at 1 am||

[hushed glen]

This is all interesting Also you don't need to spoiler anything here

[sullen axle]

Ooooo

[primal verge]

 Meet the 6 Scouts (who are descendants of the Hidden Forest ancestors) and follow their past stories and experiences together.

So they all are from forest and not from each realm as we knew previously?

[sullen axle]

Yeah

[lethal stump]

i'd imagine theyre from forest

since theyre descendants from the spirits there

[primal verge]

No i meant way before

The season started

They said each spirit represents 1 realm iirc

Or something like that

[hushed glen]

Yeah

[primal verge]

Lemme find it brb

[lethal stump]

no, they said each kid was connected to a realm ancestor
they said nothing about them being related to different realms

[primal verge]

Each spirit this season is individually related to the realm Ancestors of Sky – with their theme and items a reflection of their personalities.

[sullen axle]

Apparently they were one group but they gone one by one and he is lonely now, so we r fixing there to bring them back

[hushed glen]

According to the emote menu it's

Isle - Student
Prairie - Scout
Forest - Cadet
Valley - Botanist
Wasteland - Adventurer
Vault - Forester

So each scout could be related to any of the spirits in those realms

[lethal stump]

seems congruent with them being descendants of forest ancestors, with "the realm ancestors" being forest ancestors

[primal verge]

Oh ok so it was my misunderstanding

So to clarify each kid represents 1 spirit from the forest constellation?

[lethal stump]

each kid is a descendant of them it seems

[hushed glen]

Probably

[primal verge]

Hmmmmmm

Imagine ||in season finale we see them together with their parents from forest and we discover who's who||

Imma go inspect the constellation and try to look for patterns

[rose gorge]

feel bad for whichever kids parent is the tearful lightminer

[lethal stump]

well, for adult spirits we got

Dismayed Hunter
Shivering Trailblazer
Tearful Light Miner (although imo they look like a teen, but tis debatable)
Apologetic Lumberjack
Whale Whisperer
Blushing Prospector

then the seasonal ones are
Provoking Performer
Laidback Pioneer
(not gonna include belonging bc theyre already a family)
Admiring Actor

and thats it i think ?

[primal verge]

Ok so forest has 8 spirits

Minus hide n seek cuz they're a child themselves
Minus whalecall cyz they're nonexistent

[rose gorge]

hide n seek could be a sibling to one of them

[hushed glen]

Admiring Actor is blow kiss

[primal verge]

She's literally called hidenseek pioneer so most likely

[waxen oracle]

The lone scout is the Prince

[primal verge]

debatable

[uneven grotto]

[sullen axle]

N o p e

[lethal stump]

blushing prospector's memories are related to them being on a date, and assuming all spirit memories take place at the same time, its debatable if BP is a parent to any of the scouts

[sullen axle]

But maybe

[primal verge]

I abandoned my kingdom to go build a threehouse

[lethal stump]

prince: this royalty stuff is boring im going to harass children to make a treehouse with me

[sullen axle]

B r u h this would be my status if the present one wasn’t better

[primal verge]

Spirit memories don't take place at the same time cuz we have seen the same spirits in different memories. For example the no spirit

[lethal stump]

not the exact same time, i mean about the same few years within each other

[primal verge]

So minus blushing spirit

[lethal stump]

like if BP was only just going on a date with someone while the scouts were already around their tweens, its unlikely BP is one of their parents

[primal verge]

What if they're divorced and looking forward to start a new lovelife

[hushed glen]

JCGSICSICG

[primal verge]

[lethal stump]

yes, the likely spirits to be parents so far would probably be:

Dismayed Hunter
Shivering Trailblazer
Tearful Light Miner
Apologetic Lumberjack
Provoking Performer
Laidback Pioneer

although im unsure if AA would be a parent since theyre a travelling actor according to rhythm lore

[primal verge]

Minus whale whisperer

[lethal stump]

why ?

[primal verge]

They don't exist as a person

Their avatar is a placeholder

We get the emote from the bones

[hushed glen]

Yeah Actor is more unlikely to be one of their parents

[primal verge]

We never see them anywhere in forest

[lethal stump]

so that leaves us with 6 spirits and 6 kids

time to find out whos whos children

[primal verge]

Mystery solved?

[hushed glen]

This is where the fun begins

[primal verge]

is a strict parent 100%%%%

[lethal stump]

Assembly Spirits
Assembly Guide
Baffled Botanist
Scolding Student
Scaredy Cadet
Marching Adventurer
Chuckling Scout
Daydream Forester

Possible Parents
Dismayed Hunter
Shivering Trailblazer
Tearful Light Miner
Apologetic Lumberjack
Provoking Performer
Laidback Pioneer

[primal verge]

Matchmaking time

[lethal stump]

imo it seems Chuckle and Daydream are siblings

so i think they have the same parent

[primal verge]

Yes that makes place for the 7th child

[lethal stump]

yeup

[hushed glen]

Or they could be very good friends

Or even more than that

[primal verge]

THEY'RE KIDS

Btw anyone noticing something familiar??

A chubby masculine character saves a feminine character from falling off a cliff

I'm looking at you season of dreams

[lethal stump]

most friends or even more than that dont sleep in the same room with their beds across the room from each other
their room looks like a sibling room, with beds across the room and two halves of the room for two kids

[hushed glen]

Hmm, yeah you're right about that

I think I forgot about the two beds

[primal verge]

Do all the possible parents have their emotes emojis? Here

[hushed glen]

Let me check

[lethal stump]

nope

theres no emoji for laidback or dismay iirc

[primal verge]

Ok they're reflection of their character

wait

WAIT

[hushed glen]

These are the only ones

[primal verge]

What other possible parent has their memories in the forest entrance

[lethal stump]

trailblazer

[primal verge]

Then mystery solved

Wait imma type it

No wait

Is the trailblazer the cold one?

[lethal stump]

thats the shivering one

[primal verge]

I meant seasonal spirit

Wait I'm confused

So anyways hear me out

[lethal stump]

wait you mean assembly kids ?

[primal verge]

No

Parents

So

[hushed glen]

Huh

[vague thorn]

Face palm and scold are first

[lethal stump]

yeah and im saying trailblazer is at the forest entrance

[dense arch]

whats the current topic

[vague thorn]

But why did you say that the spirit memories occured at the same period of a few years?

[primal verge]

There are 3 main areas

FOREST ENTRANCE
this area has 2 kids and 2 possible parent figures
The facepalm
The scolding

Shimmering
Trailblazer

FOREST BROOK
marching
Eww

Kabuki
The angry spirit

And you get the memo

We got the pairs

Now we need to match them up in the pairs

[lethal stump]

laidback is also in forest brook

[primal verge]

Oh wait yeah

[cold furnace]

What is the megabird?

[lethal stump]

its the possible god of the sky universe

[primal verge]

Oh no dis does not help to narrow it down ((

[lethal stump]

often referred to using she/her

[primal verge]

OUR GOD

[kindred root]

isnt there only one spirit in forests entranee tho-

[lethal stump]

yeah

[primal verge]

Huh.?

[lethal stump]

what seasonal spirit is at forest entrance ???

all the seasonal forest spirits are brook and onwards

aside from the assembly kids

[dense arch]

@cold furnace this thing

[lethal stump]

thats an old concept of her, its not really accurate nowadays

[primal verge]

Im so confused rn....
Which is the trailblazer

[kindred root]

the shiver emote i think

[lethal stump]

trailblazer is the shivering emote

[dense arch]

i thought the trailblazer is the one at the very first entrance?

SHIVERING EMO

[lethal stump]

shush /lh

[primal verge]

You know what that means Bricky

New typo

New meme

[hushed steeple]

👀

[lethal stump]

[screams]

[lethal stump]

Who’s Megabird?
Megabird is an elusive character. There is lots of conflicting theories and information from the concepts. Some believe they are like the god of the Sky world, others believe they are a personification of the universe/cycle of rebirth. There’s other theories, but there’s no time to get into it. Reading the concepts would be useful to get an idea of Megabird, their development, and what they may be like in your theory.

[weak robin]

Dismayed = baffled cuz their emoji looks to have the same meaning

[lethal stump]

i had an image of the in-game megabird but im having trouble sending it

[weak robin]

Freezing traileblazer = scaredy cuz they’re both very much afraid of water?

[cold furnace]

Ah thank you!

[primal verge]

Ok possible parents
IMMA USE THEIR EMOTES CUZ IDK ABOUT THEIR NAMES

1. COLD
2. ANGRY
3. KABUKI
4. UMBRELLA
5. SHOCKED
6. DEEP BOW
7. CRY

[lethal stump]

"emote"

"umbrella"

seems legit

[dense arch]

ah yes my favorite emote umbrella

[primal verge]

Don't come at me English is my 3rd

[lethal stump]

if you'd like a short introductory document to lore i can supply it

[hushed steeple]

Here's the megabird that we see after credits in orbit

[weak robin]

Pouty = scolding cuz both of them seems to inherit a family anger 😂

[mint widget]

prety

[kindred root]

oh thats what megabird is??-

[dense arch]

i never knew you could see megabird in game

i always skip the credits

[primal verge]

Kids

1. Facepalm
2. Scold
3. Ew
4. March
5. Bubbles
6. Chuckle
7. Guide

[lethal stump]

thats commonly believed to be megabird, its TECHNICALLY not confirmed but theres little other possibility as to what else the big glowing bird-shaped thing made of stars could possibly be

[bitter kite]

Since when was the guide a descendant? It’s only the 6 scouts right?

[lethal stump]

anyways yall im off to help my dumb pet snake

happy theorizing

[hushed steeple]

Tc 🧱

[primal verge]

NOW MAKE A MATCH

1. COLD - FACE-PALM
   2.ANGRY - SCOLD
2. KABUKI - EW
3. UMBRELLA - MARCH
4. SHOCKED - BUBBLES
5. DEEP BOW - CHUCKLE
6. CRY - GUIDE

[weak robin]

Dismayed Hunter = Facepalm
Pouty Porter = Scolding Student
Shivering = scaredy

[primal verge]

I wrote this at random

[hushed steeple]

So
Have you guys theorized anything about nick saying those seasonal spirits as skykids ?

[primal verge]

Imagine this being actually correct

[primal verge]

Saying W H A T

[hushed steeple]

Watch the dev update video boy

[primal verge]

They can't be skykids because that's what we are

They're kids
Spirit kids
Imma rewatch it

[dense arch]

UHH WHAT

I WATCHED IT ON MUTE

I HAVEEXAM

[hushed steeple]

https://youtu.be/xaUrgrr982k

0:29

[primal verge]

That's probably unintentional

[dense arch]

i think he meant spirit but ended up saying skykids

[primal verge]

They are spirit kids

The gurl who appears in office is a skykid. But the half transparent beings are spirits. Even if they're kids

[hushed steeple]

But again.... None of the spirit can do high-five with us except the quest giver and our fellow skykid friends

[dense arch]

0:56 haha bouncy skykids

[primal verge]

Not everything is canon and lore. Some things are just for gameplay

-ktjn

[dense arch]

i mean i think its because its a scout themed teamwork season??

[primal verge]

That's just for gameplay

[vague thorn]

Facepalm-cry
Scolding-Pouty
Shivering-Scaredy

[kindred root]

maybe it has to do w the fact that theyre kids? smth like that idk

[vague thorn]

But doesn't what the devs said just mean that the spirits follow the overall theme of forest ancestors? Because the forest is teenage angst and confusion but playfulness and joy too

As are our little scouts

[hushed steeple]

Okay i understood but.. but umm I've something to say assuming if they're actually skykids not ancestors.

what if they're actually those who came before us and lived in sky.
What if there were another generation before us but they weren't able to make it through eden and died in eden.. we see some dead kids before eden cave (in the pic below) and they looks more like skykid's ded body not ancestor's .. probably they died there because darkness caught them.. ik those might be left over from old beta .. but who knows ...
Just a theory.

[dense arch]

WAIT I FORGOT ABOUT PING

IM SORRY

AA

[hushed steeple]

Ah i see..

Thanks

It was actually bothering me XD

[primal verge]

Children of light
Skykids
Spirits

These 3 are different types of humanoids in sky

[gilded spoke]

children of the light are the wl children?

[dense arch]

children of light is?

[magic fable]

winged light

[rapid juniper]

Wl are stars

[kindred root]

i think theyre the wl-

[dense arch]

winged light and children of light is separate i believe-

[gilded spoke]

statues?

[dense arch]

i dont think statues count

[primal verge]

Children of light are the ones who came to save eden but failed. They are the winged lights and the statues in eden

Skykids are us

Spirits are the ancestors

Elders are the semigods

[primal verge]

They do

[rapid juniper]

The statues is skids to

[dense arch]

what i thought children of lights are skykids?? what??

[rapid juniper]

Ye

[primal verge]

YEAH THIS GAME ISN'T EVEN ABOUT US

[rapid juniper]

No

It’s about us

[gilded spoke]

the only canon thing in beta is the diamond exploding

[rapid juniper]

Yes its one of the theory’s

[dense arch]

wait so wls are kinda their souls and we return it to them?? like??

[gilded spoke]

yes actually

[rapid juniper]

They are stars o

[primal verge]

Fun fact

Kingdom of sky isn't our home

Neither is the orbit

[gilded spoke]

then which is home?

[rapid juniper]

We are in the sky

[kindred root]

are we homeless-

[primal verge]

We are called to sky by Megan to help save it

[rapid juniper]

The game is about saving the kingdom

[primal verge]

[stone reef]

What if a skykid fell?
Like a fallen angel?

[rapid juniper]

Mega bird just sent us

[primal verge]

Skykids have been here we haven't been sent by anyone

[dense arch]

i read that as megabird sus

[primal verge]

We were just given the gift of light

[rapid juniper]

Ye wait I

[stone reef]

What if we got the gift of darkness

[primal verge]

P. S. Y'all ever wondered why our candles have heart shaped halo

[rapid juniper]

No imsismsjs’nsksmsjsjskjsjsksmsmmsjs

[rapid juniper]

It’s because our hearts are candles to

Smksjsi

[primal verge]

*flame

[rapid juniper]

Ye

[stone reef]

We are candles

[rapid juniper]

No

[primal verge]

The whole world is a candle

[rapid juniper]

Yes

[primal verge]

No actually

[rapid juniper]

I guess

[primal verge]

They show it in the end of eden

[stone reef]

Reject humanity become candle

[rapid juniper]

Well

[primal verge]

🕯️

[dense arch]

so uh
elders (and spirits?) fell/got banished from orbit?
they built sky kingdom
powerstones give them knowledge power and stuffs
then uh some stuffs happened
eden explodes
everyone dies
the end

[stone reef]

Yo wait what are the elders names

[dense arch]

they have no name

[rapid juniper]

They fell because of dakrnesss mega bird is weak lol

[primal verge]

I have my interpretation of the doomsday if y'all would like i can share it with yall

[dense arch]

their names are fanon

[rapid juniper]

Yes

[stone reef]

Oh
So tsadi isn't gws canon name then

[rapid juniper]

Yes

But you should use the elder names and the name Megan minimum said in the pins

[dense arch]

wait why did eden explode?

[stone reef]

You say megan and all I think of is megan from drake n Josh

[pastel brook]

wait who are we talking about?

[lyric isle]

Lore gang?

look

[dense arch]

YOOO

[hushed glen]

Hi

[lyric isle]

confirmed children of Forest gang

well

[dense arch]

hide and seek spirit

[lyric isle]

and probably unnamed ones as well but

hmmmm

[primal verge]

So in the several spirits memories we see nighttime for places that are seemingly always in day for example the yawn spirt and the dreams finale.

Meaning that the planet rotated on a normal speed.

Y'all ever heard about white holes and quasars?

White hole - is impossible to reach to. Repels everything. The opposite of black hole.

Quasar. An intense concentration of energy and matter in a small place

And now sky

Power diamonds - concentrated light aka energy

Eden diamond. A GIGANTIC diamond with concentrated energy.

What happened is they tried to concentrate TOO mich energy which resulted firstly in explosion that destroyed the kingdom and killed its citizens.

Second it slowed down the rotation of the planet by creating a mega earthquake. Right now the planet moves at the same speed it rotates around its core. Meaning its always the same time in different places.

[dense arch]

white hole = the opposite of white hole
what

[rapid juniper]

Lmao w Megan I think is the short name for mega bird

[primal verge]

I meant black sorry

[hushed glen]

Yeah megabird was referred to as megan, still kinda is

[primal verge]

Forgot to add that quasars shine a beam of light.... Just like the eden

[dense arch]

oh ok

[rapid juniper]

It’s from brick tho

[stone reef]

So what's the thing with our lord and savior the corrupt king

[primal verge]

He dead

[dense arch]

so eden exploded because the elders woke up and decided its time for power diamonds

[primal verge]

Imo yes

[lyric isle]

is anyone going to pay attention to the fact that

Assembly spirits are CONFIRMED AS DESCENDANTS OF FOREST SP

[stone reef]

I wonder which one is which

[primal verge]

We discussed this and already made a list of possible parents

Lemem find it

[lyric isle]

how badly did this interrupt

[primal verge]

1. COLD - FACE-PALM
   2.ANGRY - SCOLD
2. KABUKI - EW
3. UMBRELLA - MARCH
4. SHOCKED - BUBBLES
5. DEEP BOW - CHUCKLE
6. CRY - GUIDE

[dense arch]

"umbrella"

[primal verge]

On left is the spirit with their most known and easiest name