#lore-discussion-spoilers

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cobalt herald
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I have come to ask the lord of this game

rapid juniper
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Uh what

somber swallow
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the lord you say?

verbal cairn
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Hello

gleaming mango
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I don’t think they need to breathe because Skykids have been shown to survive being underwater and in the vacuum of space

gleaming mango
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Maybe they get their energy and required nutrients just by absorbing the energy of light itself

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As for blood, what if they have some sort of liquid light or something?

queen locust
restive cosmos
gleaming mango
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However, you can visit the space station while still alive without succumbing to the vacuum of space!

queen locust
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Pretty sure that office doesn't count for most things

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Especially not this

bitter shale
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Because we seems to be not alive nor dead-

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Anyway wassup

queen locust
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Office itself is a giant easter egg

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Oh heya Flos

bitter shale
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Its rare for a mobile game to have big easter egg like the office haha

hushed steeple
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I agree. Plus, even when skids have their masks off, there is no mouth or nose.

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They don't even have gills

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There is nothing on them that could make it possible for them to breathe

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They're just.... Tiny little golems that survive on pure light

gleaming mango
queen locust
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If they were constructs- like golems, their locomotive structure could be akin to that of a doll's

queen locust
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As for the heartbeat, under the golem interpretation- it could be their core

gleaming mango
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Makes sense!

dreamy adder
hushed steeple
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Candle wax LOL

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I don't think it would make sense for them to have just as much of a complex circulatory system as we humans do

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I think their internal anatomy is rather simple

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Their skeletal systems might be made of something like metal wires

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Because clay figures internally have metal wires

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And sky kids are very clay-like

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They're like clay dolls

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...kinda

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They're harder than clay and don't shatter

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Literally can bump into things and be perfectly fine

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So internally, maybe they have

A flame for a heart
Metal wiring for a skeletal system

gleaming mango
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Yeah!

gleaming mango
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So basically, light constructs given physical form?

wheat cypress
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That would make sense

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I feel a long paragraph coming

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👀

civic minnow
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I have a theory. Just a theory. And I hope this is the place to share theories.

I believe that the “Children of Light”, used to be like the guardians of the stars. But because of a lack of needing them, they all fell into say a slumber. Now a few thousand years in the future the stars are in trouble. They became “morally wrong” and caused the downfall of their kingdom, separating from each other, and fell from the sky. While this is happening, one of the guardians called out to the “Children of Light” (hence the beginning cutscene) and they were awakened. The stars made a home in the clouds, but it soon crumbled and fell just like their previous home. Then the “Children of Light” came to help, by experiencing some important figures (hence the spirits you find everywhere) memories and putting their souls to rest. Then, they meet the even more important people (the elders), and the elders gave them these lanterns, that would open the gateway to the most broken place of all, Eden. Eden is basically the centre off all the chaos, the beginning of all their troubles. The place is heavily guarded, because somehow the stars evil kind of got a conscience. Or at least didn’t want to get destroyed and put up its own self defence mechanisms. But you manage to get past it, as did many children before you. The statues you see, are previous attempts of other children trying to free the stars, but failing. Once you give them some of your life, they will eventually break free from the shell they are trapped in. Finally, when you die, the world decides to give you another chance. It basically gives you immortality. You return to your home in the sky, and live happily ever after...? (Sky 2?)

Just a theory, and my opinion, but I’ve nearly exceeded the word limit and I forgot some things, so I’ll quickly write some more

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I’M FINALLY DONE

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Some things I left out:

The weird glowing children are unaffected stars. They didn’t fall with the rest of the constellations, but instead decided to try and help anyone who wanted to help save the stars by making them stronger.

When the spirits are supposedly giving you their hair or cape or what-not, they’re actually passing down their knowledge to you. They teach you how to put your hair up in a way that it creates a bun or whatever. Same with the cape, but it’s instead what kind of fabric to use and other important details.

The seasons are other constellations of stars who have temporarily fallen down and need saving.

In every constellation there is something trying to stop you from getting to Eden. In the isle they have a very scarce supply of winged light and a lot of land to cover. In prairie, the bells have been deactivated so no stars are around to help you get to high places. In forest, the rain comes all of a sudden to try and diminish your energy. In valley there are large races held to try and stop you from getting to the finish and not be disheartened by losing. In wasteland there is lots of polluted water, large beasts and difficult landscapes (this is when they start getting serious). The vault is mostly unaffected by the evil, since it’s a place that’s so old and pure it’s mostly unaffected by everything going on outside, but it still has some influence, like putting in difficult puzzles and disabling the lifts. And Eden is just. Eden

I can’t think of anything I didn’t include, let me know. (Just to clarify this not a theory supported by lots of evidence, just small things I noticed while playing. I’m happy to have a debate as well :P*)

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Ight imma head out this was a lot of work

true grove
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He he you can share your theories here whenever you like :)

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Interesting theory pPopcorn

civic minnow
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Wait I just realised that I covered a lot of what was already said .-.
Oh well. At least I can say I thought I was being original C:

true grove
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Lol a lot of time people add small bits

wheat cypress
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This is actually pretty rock solid, and evidence based, bravo 👏

limpid basin
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What if the Light at homespace was just the Eden Constellation and you’re filling it with your friends because the original spirits, like the Elder, got destroyed?

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I mean at the end of the Vault Elder Cutscene there is a crown-shaped Constellation from which a mural of Eden’s peak emerges

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And it looks very similar to the one found in Homespace

kind musk
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Yeah I've thought it too, the first time you enter in the game, in homespace there's a storm, very similar to the one when you go to home from the point of no return

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So maybe, we are the habitants of the eye of eden

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But in a new generation

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That would explain two things: Why there are kid-shaped statues near to the entrance of the corridor

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and why there aren't spirits in eden

kind musk
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Or maybe.. (crazy theory warning, made just for fun)

In Sky, we can find, Light Creatures (Butterflies, Mantas, Jellyfishes, the Whale and Birds, used to replenish our energy) and we can find Dark Creatures (Crabs and Krills [Dark Dragon], used to drain our energy.

Following the theory, Sky kids were one of those creatures (not ancestors or others)

They weren't light or dark, they were in the middle.
The darkness (plants) affect Mantas. And our honks (possibly a shock of light) affects carbs.

The kids weren't affected neither for light or dark, they just were there.

Then something happened (the darkness came, eden explosion, etc, whatever you want)
And the darkness, which lived in peace with the sky, took over the light, corrupting almost everything.

Some creatures of light survived, the elders survived (Although damaged but alive), and the kids survived.

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Isle or Vault elder decided to modify the kids, blessing them with a cape like the ancestors, with a torch to burn the dark, they blessed the kids with the friendship. But that made them very vulnerable to the dark.

(all of this happened THOUSANDS of years after the Darkness takeover)

And then they released the kids in a little island in the middle of the nothing, under The Light constellation.

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It should be noted that this is definitely not my theory of where the sky kids come from. I made this one for fun, or maybe it have some good details for the final theory that explains everything.

Even those theories made for fun have a little gold coin

nova tiger
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yucky water has oil

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probably

kind musk
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And where do you think that oil came from? pThink

graceful osprey
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darkstone

kind musk
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Mhmm

graceful osprey
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darkstone krills

kind musk
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Wait- darkstone? You mean the darkness plants??

graceful osprey
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the darkstone specks are also present on the dark plants

kind musk
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Ohh, as the light creatures are made of light you think that the dark creatures are made of darkstone/darkness?

kind musk
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That's a good one

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But i think that the darkstone itself doesn't exists really... I believe it was what we know as darkness plants in the Pre-release beta (Sky: Light Awaits)

graceful osprey
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what about the refined and corrupt forms of darkstone?

kind musk
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You have pics of it?? pEyes

graceful osprey
kind musk
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I think there are things that I have missed

graceful osprey
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the diamonds that you light up on the doors and power everything are refined darkstone

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and the red crystals in eye of eden is corrupt darkstone

kind musk
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Mhmm pEyes

graceful osprey
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what

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what happened

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oh maybe people used that word inappropriately

kind musk
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I've always thought that it was normal stone

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And the red crystals, crystals, corruped ofc

graceful osprey
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also, the dark stuff that falls of krill and krebs are normal darkstone

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i think

kind musk
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I see

kind musk
graceful osprey
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huh.

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i guess that can make sense

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what is pipe sludge made of

lyric isle
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am I allowed to bring forth a new topic of interest, or is that ‘too useless’ as someone here once genuinely said to me

graceful osprey
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we're waiting pSkyPeek

hushed steeple
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I forgot about this, but I went into an out of bounds place with my friend and saw them. I thought they were Megabird but im not sure

trail oyster
trail oyster
# nova tiger yucky water has oil

I agree. In fact, I think the oil may have either been the cause of much of this darkness or it could have been a result of the darkness. For example, if you look at a dark plant/tree the large things thats what i mean, you can see at the bottom they're sort of rainbow. Similar to yucky water, not to mention that also i think this may have been a glitch but the water just appeared more....rainbow. Like oil. And also, irl, if a bird falls into oil in an oil spill, it's ability to fly is affected. Our light is affected by this dirty water so that would kind of make sense

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ok i'm confusing myself

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I'm thinking this game may also be about staying eco friendly

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what is wrong with me, lol

icy spruce
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if it was oil, then GW will be on fire /j

nova tiger
nova tiger
nova tiger
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wheeze

narrow gazelle
solemn barn
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So that's why IRL have krill oil's

slate saffron
graceful osprey
trail oyster
trail oyster
nova tiger
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~~you obviously don't know that i'm magical 🙄 ~~
just kidding just kidding SkyLOL you slowly use the step to step one by one starting from the shallow water and go to the bottom. or you can use a table/swing/etc to glitch your way in with a friend c:

trail oyster
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oh cool thanks

hushed steeple
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Hi

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Hmm😅

kind musk
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Hello, new here?

hushed steeple
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Yeah 😊💝💖

kind musk
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Let me quote a message that will help you

hushed steeple
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Thank you 😊

kind musk
hushed steeple
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Okay, I'll do it😇

kind musk
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:)

hushed steeple
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:))

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I just want to ask😅

kind musk
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Feel free to ask anything

hushed steeple
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Okay 😋💖

kind musk
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Oohhh no, sorry

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In this server ask for this type of things is against the TOS

hushed steeple
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Oh, well, that's okay🤗💖💖

kind musk
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But feel free to ask in other servers

hushed steeple
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Oh, okay🥰

pseudo heart
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Howdee

kind musk
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:)

pseudo heart
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Anyone got lore?

kind musk
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No, you got something Ali?

pseudo heart
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Nope hh

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Was hoping the chat was alive..

kind musk
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Aoow

silk stag
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Do you guys think the elders still alive or?

why did I ask this ಠ_ಠ

pale path
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why do skykid swim but no like rain

icy violet
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@pale path great question

bitter shale
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Because they are not swimming in forest elder's tears

bitter shale
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Jk jk-

trail oyster
pseudo heart
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They're in limbo, they're not dead nor alive

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They're uh

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Vibing

trail oyster
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their souls are there

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they're lost spirits

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on a whole new level

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they're like.....

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they're like sauron after he lost the ring for the first time

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sauron became bodiless

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and then got finally destroyed after frodo destroyed the ring

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actually no

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he became an evil shadow of malice

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nononoooonono

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the elders.....

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are like....

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morgoth

pseudo heart
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I don't..

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Get the analogy

trail oyster
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wait no never mind morgoth got thrown into the abyss

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sorry

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lotr mind

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too much lord of the rings

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i was trying to say that their physical form was gone

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but they're just shadows of the spirits and power they used to be

heady locust
trail oyster
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yeah sorry

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i went down a mental lord of the rings spiral

pseudo heart
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My head

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Isn't working dang it

trail oyster
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no it's a lord of the rings thing

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unrelated to sky

pseudo heart
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Nono

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I want to say smth

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But I can't put it into words

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My brain too fried

trail oyster
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when that happens i kinda want to crack my skull open with a mallet and let the thoughts pour out so people understand

pseudo heart
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Okay so

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Elders right

trail oyster
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mhm?

pseudo heart
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Elders

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Ye

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Tshwebebwjejwjw

trail oyster
# pseudo heart <:sqwarlockDed:664551101567336462>

when my alarm wakes me up, and i try to get out of bed, but then I can't be asked to lift up my arm so then my mom h as to yell at me, but even then I don't get up and then I realise that at this rate i'm gonna be late for school, but I still don't get up because my soul has fused with the bed and become one inseperable being of comfiness and warmth

pseudo heart
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Very,, very familiar feeling

trail oyster
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if you squint, it kinda looks like two glowing white eyes underneath black blankets

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the krill emote i mean

pseudo heart
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Yes

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Okay so elders right

trail oyster
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lol yes the elders?

pseudo heart
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I still think they're not dead nor alive,, they're just vibing in limbo

« The locations of [their] cutscenes are somewhere beyond space and time »

And

« It's not that the elders are in the temples now when skykids visit there. The elders are deeply related to those places but they are not there now »

When we meditate in their temple, we get temporarily transported to limbo interact with the elders. They're like.. ghosts in a way that they're very much tied to their temples

I also think that the area where we hug the shiny boy is the same area where the elder cutscenes take place which is somewhere beyond/in the middle of eden (death) and rebirth/life (orbit)

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Does... This make sense

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Also

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I wanna point out

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Are the calls that the spirit memory fragments release supposed to be similar to their actual calls?

trail oyster
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and yes

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i think it does seem sort of possible we may be getting mentally tranported to.a higher place

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when we meditate

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I think we ultimately are elevating our souls to a higher state of conciousness in which we can see elders

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but lol

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i remember a youtube video

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this guy

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picked up a crab

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meditated

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and this happened

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would the crab get elevated too?

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imagine the spirit actually smacked the crab

pseudo heart
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Okay so jsjwndn

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First of all

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Cute

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And also

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When we meditate

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We do get transported

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AAAA I GIVE UP

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My brain is too fried

distant turtle
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At the end of the day we're all just a bunch of visionaries on a desert island sitting in a circle around lit candles, having visions of our ancestors

distant turtle
solemn barn
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Kreb

trail oyster
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someday i'll do an animation

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with dark crabs

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and crab rave

hoary violet
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if the skater is a kid as a spirit, does that mean they died as a kid stickerHuh

true grove
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Just realized today that the pillars are king's statues

hoary violet
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yuh

true grove
hoary violet
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the king was kinda self centered

hoary violet
true grove
frozen glade
wild iron
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I am the only guy who wants to believe the king of eden wasn't evil? 🥺

frozen glade
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I feel sad about the wasteland spirits tho their memories seem pretty painful

true grove
true grove
molten shell
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Didn't, like, something go wrong which corrupted him or whatever?

wild iron
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It's all theories. No proof.

hoary violet
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maybe we get the privlege/curse pf being reborn forever because we're not real people

true grove
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In concept arts he builds the ark so people can hide if creatures attack

Not the wasteland ark eden one

wild iron
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There is an ark in eden?

bitter shale
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Maaaaaaybe

hoary violet
bitter shale
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We might need ro look closely haha

true grove
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Dunno what was ment to be ark SkyShrug

hoary violet
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maybe eden is an ark pFIRE

bitter shale
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Maybe the ccastle was meant to be the ark?

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Maybe

wild iron
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I saw a Vietnamese video about the lore of sky and he did a really great job Explaining stuff. Can I share?

hoary violet
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theres lots of pipes and rebar scattered around so maybe it never finished construction

bitter shale
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Uh like if the purpose of eden diamond was as a battery for a massive ark that bring the whole kingdom people back to orbit...

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Who knows

hoary violet
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so was the king tryong to force his way into orbit

true grove
wild iron
true grove
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Do you know them ?

wild iron
true grove
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It's not ok to ping someone

wild iron
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The person who uploaded the video? Nope

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Ohhh

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Sorry ig

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I am not well versed with discord social etiquettes yet.

true grove
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Lol they should've gotten the ping

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It's just that they might be in a different timezone so

true grove
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It's the storyline concept

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Very vague lots of things have changed

real tendon
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All the spirits died a long time ago, so how come they’re both able to talk to us and have their memories relived? Do they have actual consciousness or is the bestowing of emotes/ etc. prerecorded, so to speak?

I like to think that they are conscious as spirits, and they just like to relive their memories with skykids as a sort of pastime.

true grove
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Reliving actually has a purpose

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It to gain knowledge about previous generation and what happened to rebuild sky

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I think that reliving again and again is part of game play
And actually skids could only relive the memories once

azure flower
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A civilization falling in their own hands,
So like isle is like the birth of the civilization, they are new and like the pointing at a way to continue and stuff
prairie is like then discovering that they can use magic so they start using it. Its still the beginning stages where they found the use of it. The spirit in the cave is like the opposite of the ancestor in the sanctuary islands. They found out about the magic power the life gives and different uses for it. They start dividing, the spirit in the cave wants to contain the magic butterfly and the spirit in the sanctuary chooses to let them free. You can see in the prairie elder cut-scene in prairie they chose to imprison and use the magic as the elder contains it in a pot
im sorry my thoughts just goes spilling out ;-;

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Forest is like where they start abusing the magic power given to them as said in the last, prairie elder cut-scene decided to contain the magic. They started to gather the magic in large amounts, you can see the cutting down trees and mining . Notice some platforms that looks like like the light mushrooms but they don't give off light, prolly bcs they taking the energy out of it. I speculate because they were destroying their environment like that the damaging rain started. also i think the ships in the beginning of forest are the pots that contains the butterflies. I think that the krill is the polluted version of the whale, big guess but like it sorta makes sense, the whale bones prolly bcs the ancestors polluted and killed it and so that's why krills attack us

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again pouring my thoughts out im so sorry

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I don't have much on valley but i think its when the separation shows more between like the ancestors that believe they shouldn't be taking all magic energy and the ones that think they should make use out of it. Like the both sides getting competitive.
Wasteland is when everything break out into mess, probably war wink wink
First its attack of krill as you see the building being destroy in the dropping down spirit ducking from building and probably hiding from krills. Then they start fighting the krills in the 4 krill map and they probably got rid of some krills bcs of the bones (omg roasted creb)

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hold on'

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In the last map you can see there are fallen shields and stuff but you don't see the krills, weird, huh? So like you can see that there are 2 types of shield so the ancestors prolly began fighting each other, and when you reach the end and activates the temple the krills comes in prolly signaling the end of the war everyone poofed and the krill can live and swim here,

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Vault prolly just the aftermath survivors recording down the history, each level resembling each realm, each stage they went through that lead to their fall

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ok im done

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im not spamming i swear

wild iron
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Oh it's not spam if it's relevant

azure flower
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idek if its relavant or not fr

wild iron
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I think you should edit your message and fix the grammer, it's hard to understand what I am reading.

azure flower
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i was planning to do that lol, i jjust dumped everything her im so sorry

hushed steeple
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:00. Holy crap that is a good story of sky history like y e z

distant turtle
real tendon
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But then how come we can still interact with them in their realms and re-relive their spirit memories after we ascend them?

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Do they get reborn along with us?

distant turtle
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I suspect there's no lore reason why we can re-live spirit memories and there's still a husk body there. I think that's just a game mechanic for daily quests. The spirits are rescued if they are in your constellation and in your Orbit. That's one of the limitations of MMOs, that the quests stick around forever after your player completes them.
I don't think they get reborn, because they would be standing around alive. They probably didn't come into existence by falling out of the sky like we do.

trail oyster
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i think at this point we should eliminate what we think must be there for daily quests, and focus on the things that map out an actual story

azure flower
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Realized; The sky kids are just mimicking the physical actions of the spirits, not the intentions of the spirit? Idk what that contributes but i think it has some relations to what y’all taking about? 👁👄

distant turtle
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I like where you're going

hoary violet
fresh scarab
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I suppose that when we follow the spirit memories we end up finding their bodies to fully see their expressions, that means...

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Was he tired or that memory is this spirit dying?

rapid juniper
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Well

distant turtle
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He isn't tired. He clutches his abdomen and slumps over. (I didn't remember so I watched again)

rapid juniper
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Hes called fainting warrior tho

icy spruce
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Personally, I think something bad happened to GW

rapid juniper
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All realms aren’t abandoned our ancestors just died there

molten shell
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Yeah. Cause while Sky isn't earth, most of earth would recover if we all yeeted. So, it seems more or less that most of the lands returned to however they were before, but they messed up GW beyond repair, or at least, it will take quite a bit of time to recover.

icy spruce
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yeah, well imo GW was ruined cause of a war (battlefield) and adding to the Eden explosion

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uhhhh

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that will take a long time to rehabilitate it

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true

rapid juniper
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Nah its ok

naive stratus
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The goal of the game is to "Revive a dead kingdom" as said in the desc. so does that mean skids were only created to revive whatever kingdom the domains are???

icy spruce
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I think so

hushed steeple
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And sky kids are kids

gilded spoke
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we as skids are experiencing childhood trauma

hushed steeple
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Pretty much

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That's why sky kids deserve all the hugs

icy spruce
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yes

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smh smh, Megabird watched too much animes that they expected children to save the world

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smh smh /j

hushed steeple
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Megabird after watching sad magical girl anime such as Puella Magi Magicka Madoka: "hmmmm I'm gonna make some little children sacrifice themselves to save a kingdom because I'm bored"

gilded spoke
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whoever says "megabird is not canon" listen here.

molten shell
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Fortunately, I'm like 90% certain that megabird is confirmed canon

bitter shale
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Imagine that when you reach orbit and look up, the birb constellation suddenly got into a shape of a big light birb that land in front of you and tell you 'good job kid'

wheat cypress
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Uwu

rapid juniper
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Isn’t that our only purpose in the game

icy spruce
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guess so

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I mean, I heard that the goal is originally go to the diamond (not sure if this is true) but we failed cause we're too weak or smthng

rapid juniper
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Well there’s a wind wall in the diamond

icy spruce
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yep

rapid juniper
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Lamo

icy spruce
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smh Megabird, should've remove the win barrier or smthng

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smh, the skids should have fried chicken today

rapid juniper
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Lol ye

icy spruce
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forget about tempura, fried chicken is good

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oh yes

rapid juniper
icy spruce
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okay lore

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so uh

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what about lore

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hmm

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hmmmmmm

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okay byeeeee

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/lh

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aaaaaa, I remember a convo about this last year

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sadly, I forgot the contents so E

hushed steeple
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Maybe home space is just where a sky kid can port their soul in

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Like home space is probably uhhhhh idk how to explain

icy spruce
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uhhhhhhhh

hushed steeple
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Uhhhhhhhhh

icy spruce
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thinking intensifies

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uhhh, maybe portals are like uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. yep, don't know

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SEARCH BUTTON I NEED YOU!

hushed steeple
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It seems like skids can meditate so hard that they experience a spiritual form of derealization, so maybe home space is like a spiritual area that skids can go to by derealization

icy spruce
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oh

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that's actually

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good

hushed steeple
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Thanks

icy spruce
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that makes sense

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so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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what now

hushed steeple
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Idk my knee hurts

icy spruce
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oh why

hushed steeple
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Idk lol

icy spruce
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I

hushed steeple
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They probably are in another dimension

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A spiritual dimension

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Maybe they're still in the sky world but not in the same dimension that skids are in

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Or they're in a heavenly place similar to orbit

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Actually

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Maybe they are in orbit

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We see them when we go to orbit so

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And orbit is like heaven

icy spruce
#

ye

hushed steeple
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People go to heaven when they die

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So yeah

icy spruce
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E

haughty talon
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Visited the cave paintings after a long time. Snapped this

gray timber
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Interesting

magic gust
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yes

gray timber
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I'm too lazy to type my thoughts about it so just stare at the thingy

shrewd plover
grim nebula
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Is the gold part in the middle of the painting meant to be... orbit?

wheat cypress
#

How have I not seen this before 😳

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Where is this????

grim nebula
#

I definitely didn’t see it before. I kind of wonder if it only appears after you do Eden after doing the trials

wheat cypress
#

Is this in the cave of prophecy?

grim nebula
#

It looks like cave of prophecy- I might go and check

wheat cypress
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Wanna come with? 🤣

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Archeology expedition

grim nebula
#

Totally!

wheat cypress
grim nebula
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Thanks!

stark marten
#

It is in the Prophecy cave, the murals show up a bit at a time after you complete the trials for the first time. There are some extra golden parts though that show up when you fly up to the rock platforms with torches on them. You have to start on the one next to the water trial and go from left to right to show them all

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They reset when you leave the Prophecy cave too, so if you want to see them again you have to activate the cutscenes again

urban lily
#

anyone have the link for the lore document etc? I need it asap

hushed steeple
#

@urban lily There's all kinds of documents in pinned messages in this channel

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or wait

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I forgot they unpinned the canon google doc

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And stuff

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Which is prob for the better

slate saffron
#

Does anyone know what this symbol might mean?

true grove
#

As with most things in sky we don't know what the symbols mean

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Most theories are that they represent some sort of diamond device or something related to diamond

lucid bridge
#

I assume that it is a symbol of reverence/respect for the power diamonds and how they help move civilization forward.

naive stratus
#

why are skids so depressing-

bleak ruin
#

Heyyy I was wondering if anyone had theories on this cutscene/area?

queen locust
#

This wasn't updated right? Cuz I think I might have one

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everything about the Ceremonial Worshippers is sus and it's been driving me nuts

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But I remember sharing this once about them and it's a little far-fetched- but maybe they could have been the Whisperers

lucid bridge
#

Maybe they’re worshipping Oreo

queen locust
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The dudes that we get the calls from I mean

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...oreo memes notwithstanding

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I have a quiz coming up tho so I'll probably have to write something up on this later

bleak ruin
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It’s driving Me nuts tooo

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I’m like they look ghostly spirity already in the memory..,

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She looks like she comes out of the gravestone thing and then there’s that light and a portal to the temple like..

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The whole 8 player elevator

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And then they do the butterfly stance? Like tgc gimme some answersssss

queen locust
#

plus there's that whole matter of who exactly it is that they're worshipping

bleak ruin
#

Exactly

queen locust
#

Implicitly it implies the existence of a deity

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Megabird perhaps? But who isn't to say they weren't worshipping something else

bleak ruin
#

And like is it related to the portal technology? Or the elevator things in vault cuz it kinda reminds me of that

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Probably the mega bird

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Like I wonder how much the ppl of Sky knew about the mega bird

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I kinda felt like they worshipped the creatures of light because all the statues and how they helped them travel and stuff and they got light from them

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But idk or even like what’s their relationship with the ancestors? Did they see them as deities at all or just like leaders/teachers ?

gray timber
queen locust
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Specifically the relationship between Ancestor and creature

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Which is kinda why I said I think those guys were the Whisperers

bleak ruin
#

Ohhhh that’s interesting

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Super interesting

true grove
#

The 8 player spirit seems most unfinished still

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It seems like it's just enough to give you the emote that's it

queen locust
#

that was the fastest I've finished a physics quiz holy-

true grove
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Lol

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The way the second spirit appears used to happen in light awaits

queen locust
#

Actually-about that second spirit

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It makes me doubt if what we're seeing is a memory

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Or something that actually happened

true grove
#

Also the way second spirit looks is same as unfinished spirits looked in light awaits

queen locust
#

Notice that there wasn't any preamble for us to get this emote, nor was there any indication that we'd be reliving a memory

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It just kind of happens

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It's kind of convenient that they're next to what we think are their graves too

true grove
#

After we light the candles in front of the tombstone the glowing lines appear over it also same as light awaits
It was the way to summon spirits then

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So that leads me to believe that there should be 8 spirits

queen locust
#

Maybe we're doing the same now? Summoning them in spite of reliving them?

true grove
#

But it's still unfinished

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I like how tgc is going over old stuff and fixing it

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Like the new spirit memories

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And hidenseek spirit

true grove
#

Ahhhh now my brain is hurting

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Finish it tgcccc

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That emote has been there forever

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Oh

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Wait

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It was never finished

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It has been the same way from beginning

queen locust
#

Six spots for six calls was what I had in mind when I realized we don't see the rest of them

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And then it's like 'wait Crab Call exists' and so naturally it brings up the question

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Was there a Krill Whisperer

gray timber
#

:0

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but they died before the big wipeout thing

finite belfry
#

Does anyone know if there's any evidence of the ancestor spirits or skykids eating food?

gray timber
#

the roasted crab thing in wasteland

queen locust
#

There's that one crab spitroast in Wasteland

finite belfry
#

Oh I forgot about that

queen locust
#

And idk maybe the bottle from the Bipa guy in Dreams? could have been drinking from it

finite belfry
#

I kinda wonder if they were omnivores or carnivores or what

queen locust
gray timber
queen locust
#

I think even before the blowout they could still have existed

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We have some indication that krill might have existed before the Eden disaster- or even before the pollution in Wasteland

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And that's right here- if we're to interpret Prophecy as the origin of the Kingdom, and that this mural depicts the Kingdom at its peak

gray timber
#

oh okay

true grove
#

Oof wrong links ahh

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This is the right one

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From 10:40

gray timber
#

Hmph...
it's barely changed

broken basin
icy spruce
#

hmmmmmmm

broken basin
#

This means Dreams took place before the eden beam was present?

icy spruce
#

likely

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since the ancestors are still alive

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well, in their memories

bitter shale
#

Yeah dont go to orbit in high resolution SkyLOL

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It looks like noodle ngl

graceful osprey
trail oyster
#

ok

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so i watched the da vinci code yesterday

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i'm gonna find a deeper meaning in everything now i'll try

livid valley
#

What

acoustic nebula
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anyone alive

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asdfasfsafsafsd ;-;

queen locust
# bitter shale

Artistic rendering of string theory maybe? idk that's all that comes to mind whenever someone brings up space noodles

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Space noodle concept Megabird also counts I think

gray timber
#

meganoodle

pastel brookBOT
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wait who are we talking about? stickerHuh

distant turtle
true grove
static seal
#

The emote that you always click by accident when scrolling through the menu pFIRE

wet quartz
#

Nooby question, but do the elders have names?

rapid juniper
#

Yes

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And i think they are fanon ?

wet quartz
#

AH right

lethal stump
# wet quartz Nooby question, but do the elders have names?

Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They were never canon, they were placeholders, and now they are fanon.

wet quartz
#

tysm!!

azure flower
#

does anyone know why and where they started calling the valley elder Alef and Daleth 👁️👄

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wait do they have names now and im just short informed

hushed steeple
#

Anyone know the height of the skykids (default) and/or the cape measurements

lethal stump
lethal stump
lethal stump
hushed steeple
bitter shale
hushed steeple
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So short

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And then chibi makes them even smaller

lethal stump
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chibi is 2'7 ft/79 cm uwu

hushed steeple
#

What about the tallest height ( not the giant ) SkyThink

lethal stump
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3'11 ft/119 cm

bitter shale
#

How about giant height

hushed steeple
#

They’re so short I-
stickerGloomy

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Which is honestly adorable

lethal stump
fickle onyx
#

i just realised that the broken temple of wasteland look like the one from forest pThink

lethal stump
#

yep, its theorized they're both power diamond factories !

fickle onyx
#

... i have no idea what it is ; i need to catch up with the lore XD

lethal stump
#

this can help ^^

wind bone
fickle onyx
#

no worries, i'm fine with that

wind bone
#

It’s fine that you were ok with it, but it can be off putting to others

tired vault
#

Sky occurs on Tatooine confirmed: 2 suns spotted in Hermit Valley

azure flower
#

looks like a box with wallpaper

azure flower
#

oke uh i think the realms represent a big timeline of one single world

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like they arn't individual places, they technically are but like they are to represent the timeline

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oop i got another idea- Its just big guess but some elders worked together to create the portals in the means to teach or leave some sort of monument or a way to show what happened

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like

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idk

left pebble
#

the prophcy elders gave the four sprits to rainforest elder-water, wind to vally, ground to praire elder, and fire to wastland

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thats why the vally has so much wind so we don't need to fly alot

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can seen in this picture

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and also created the chosen one I think like us the sky kids

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after reciving the power of light wings

wheat cypress
#

I hadn't noticed the little element colors in this mural wow pEyes

left pebble
#

yea its like avatar

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...

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wait a SECOND-

lethal stump
left pebble
#

Yea

lethal stump
#

imo i disagree, i think the shiny boy gave the elements to the elders since in the air trial mural we see him with the elements, then the elders with them, so i think he gave them to the elders

left pebble
#

mhmm

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but don't you think that looks like when a sky kid level up a wing

lethal stump
#

perhaps, although it looks more like orbit imo

left pebble
#

maybe they have made the prophcy that eden will exist

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it was meant to be

ivory heath
#

does anyone know what this is?

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is anyone alive-

lethal stump
hushed steeple
#

Wait are the profercy elders hybirds?

molten shell
#

Alright, so, you know how the one growth portion makes your height 'adult', thus confirming that there are sky adults (I'mma call them skadults) somewhere in the game. However, where are the skadults, then?

I brought this point up in a different server and multiple people pointed out that near Eden, it kinda sounds like screams. Perhaps that's the skadults, and they weren't reborn or something.

Okay, but if we then know that the skadults are dead, it's still possibly that skids can grow into skadults. Do you think their fate is to die without rebirth once they hit that age? Or did something wipe out all of the skadults and near skadults (skeens?), only leaving the younger skids, none of whom have grown up yet?

Hopefully that made sense, I'll reword if necessary.

hushed glen
#

i always had the theory of there being grown up skykids

lethal stump
# molten shell Alright, so, you know how the one growth portion makes your height 'adult', thus...

growth potions don't age you up, they just make you taller and make you an adult size
adult in this context probably refers to how it makes you near the height of some spirits, most of whom are adults (aside from obvious children like hide n seek and skater)
the existence of growth potions alone doesnt mean adult versions of skids exist, especially when skykids dont even naturally grow and require magic/potions to change their appearance (hinting that they're inorganic)

lethal stump
hushed steeple
#

Yes

lethal stump
#

hybrids of what, ancestor and animal ?

molten shell
lethal stump
#

because adult is a colloquialism meaning "large"
for example, im tall for my age, i wear adult sized clothes. im still a teen. im just lanky, so i wear clothes that are for adults i.e., larger
if it was a game where we grew into an adult, why would it be called children of the light ? why not call it a non-permanent thing that can apply to all stages of development like creatures or beings of light instead ?

molten shell
#

No, logically that still wouldn't make sense to use adult there. Many who I know don't use that as a colloquialism, so it seems unlikely they'd use a not-often-used term to compare to tall.

While it is called 'children', that doesn't necessarily mean that they wouldn't grow eventually. You play as a child in the game, but you can play as kids in other games as well and you aren't going to grow up. That's just the nature of video games, and something unnecessary to code in unless it's a main focus of the game (such as with things like the Sims where growing is necessary). Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Children just sounded better than creatures or beings. There's got to be some sort of other stage out there.

lethal stump
#

assuming we can grow also assumes we're organic beings, which i highly doubt
we make clinking noises when we walk, as if we're made of some stone or metal (also iirc some sound effects for skids interacting with the world were made with clay, but dont quote me on that), and our hearts are legit candles
im unsure if you have knowledge of the concepts, but in the concepts we arent really organic either. we're a mix of light and dark, almost like an engineered being to save the kingdom. i dont see why an engineered being with such a purpose would have to grow up if we serve our job just fine in our current form

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anyways i must go

somber swallow
#

im actually incorrect! these lanterns can also be found at the forgotten ark

icy bison
#

hello lore chat

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yeah, i mean we turn to stone too.

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note how once we die in eden, we turn to the same stone as the forgotten spirits and the children in eden

neat glen
#

Dosen't forgotten ark have these?

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Lol

somber swallow
#

a h a h a

rapid juniper
true grove
normal berry
rapid juniper
#

Uhm

gilded spoke
#

we were talking about the downfall of the kingdom i think

wispy parcel
#

Do sky children really need to eat?

I remember hearing something about us eating crabs but idk

gilded spoke
rapid juniper
#

The dont go spirit didn’t eat crabs he just want to burn them

wispy parcel
#

Do fish exist anywhere?
I know we have the light creatures who are airborne sea critters but I mean fish in the actual water

rapid juniper
#

In home

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And in ark

wispy parcel
#

There’s fish in home?
I never noticed that

rapid juniper
#

Idk what happened in home the fishes lamo

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Freezed I guess

rapid juniper
wispy parcel
#

I joined in late November or so
I didn’t really look at the scenery though

rapid juniper
#

Ah ok 👌

frank rivet
icy bison
#

Maybe the reason why we are kids, and not adults, is because megabird doesn't want us to make the same mistake that the adults, aka the elders did.

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adults are known for being independent, and thinking they know what's best.

icy bison
gilded spoke
#

the cremated remains is because the plants come from the spirits that die
they also feed on despair when they die a plants finds its host and plants itself
in its host and sucks out their energy

icy bison
queen locust
#

The pots in the Underground Cave would imply as such too

icy bison
#

i imagine something happens to light, after it's been kept in a dark pot for so long..

queen locust
#

We do know what happens though, because we free the contents of the pot after burning away those plants

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Those butterflies still function all the same, but maybe some of them were lost to the dark plants

#

And apparently this can happen to them even without the pots- because there's a bunch of them in the Graveyard that we free

queen locust
#

Unlike an adult, a child who starts out knowing nothing would have an easier time wholeheartedly believing in their mission

rapid juniper
molten shell
# rapid juniper Well we don’t really become stone we’re kinda saved

Belated but the beta version of Sky before release had the names of our friends over the statues at some point, apparently. So I mean, I guess we could become this stone but it def doesn't stop us from being something organic. Perhaps it's not stone per say, but something more fossil-like. Calcification.

That probably made zero sense and seemed rather irrelevant but I wanted to mention it.

rapid juniper
#

It’s from the beta only tho

gleaming hemlock
#

i think we're like golems

molten shell
# rapid juniper It’s from the beta only tho

I think a large part of it being removed was because it was a lot of clutter while in the level, but either way, that doesn't necessarily mean its completely irrelevant to the story.

rapid juniper
#

Beta things isn’t allowed here since it’s just a testing version

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But uh

icy bison
rapid juniper
#

Its a testing version

lethal stump
#

light awaits isn’t testing beta lol

#

as long as it’s not current beta content it’s fine

rapid juniper
#

Oki

lethal stump
#

light awaits and old beta content (stuff that’s not relavent) is fine

#

like i can tell you guys about the pink prophecy obelisk bug we had in september bc it’s been gone for ages, it’s not like i’m spoiling anything

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but beta testers can’t come running talking about the new season or anything

rapid juniper
#

Whats the pink obelisk bug

lethal stump
#

the obelisk turned hot pink

molten shell
#

Pffft, I'm a big fan of the random pink bugs.

Yeye, though. I know theres several folders of beta stuff literally pinned here (like, Light Awaits/Pre-release beta) so I did think that it belonged here. While it was beta, it was part of the storyline at some point and considering, from what I heard, it was removed because it caused visual problems instead of being out of place (though I could be wrong) I def wouldn't count it as a breach of the potential lore.

lethal stump
#

it was removed because it caused too much distress to players iirc

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some of them thought their friends were actually dead and gone

livid valley
#

never heard of the pink obelisk bug

molten shell
#

Makes sense. I would probably cry if I entered Eden and found all my buddies 'dead'.

lethal stump
#

it wasn’t a big deal, dw about it dreo

livid valley
#

alr

molten shell
#

I'm curious, was the cause of the pink obelisk similar to why the citadel trim of the valley elder oob is hot pink as well, lmao?

lethal stump
#

im guessing hot pink is the texture for « missing texture »
the bug is basically that the texture is missing

molten shell
#

Yee, would definitely make sense.

lethal stump
#

kinda like the pink and black in minecraft

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anyways

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i gotta go

molten shell
#

Cya Bricky!

lethal stump
#

back to lore instead of bugs

molten shell
#

The krill have this very...bass roar right before attacking. I wonder what that means for their...build. Like, how hollow are they to make such a deep sound?

tender trail
#

I am wholly convinced that the maze at the end of Valley is a crypt for the past champions

molten shell
#

....I like that theory

celest spoke
#

Maybe krill attack roar is release of internal compression for forward launch— they sit up and scrunch, then foom

iow “roar” really coming out back end haha

molten shell
#

Pfffffffffffft

late shuttle
#

eh?

#

why did my message

#

uhhh

#

👁️ anyways, can someone give me an explanation as to what happened at the ending? My little brother came in my room bawling in tears and when I asked why he said it was because of the game I showed him (sky)

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I've only played the tutorial so im pretty much clueless asndfjkaf

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he's like 5 btw so reading abilities aren't 10/10 + had trouble explaining why

river urchin
#

The ending of the game is essentially (in a very short explanation) collecting light fragments around the game's world and sacrificing yourself to save others using those light fragments.

molten shell
#

It's not a permanent sacrifice but without wingbuffs (which you can buy with the reward candles) you lose all of your wedges and need to get the winged light back, which is probably why he was crying.

#

Little kids don't like feeling like they've lost progress.

river urchin
#

When in reality, dieing is progress with wing buffs. SkyTada

late shuttle
#

oo he also mentioned that he needed 20 friends to cross this portal?? and his homie didn't have 20 nor did he have any extra candles to offer

also cried over not being help the homie cross this portal??
im sorry if that didn't make any sense 💀

molten shell
#

wheeze The Stargate? No, no, he needs to relive 20+ spirits to get through to the final stage.

late shuttle
#

my initial thought was : ) ey this is good for kiddos

molten shell
#

And you can't drag others into Eden because it's dangerous so they've gotta have their spirits relived and all that too.

#

Hah, great for kids until you get to GW and realize there's still threats out there.

late shuttle
#

omy

river urchin
#

I thought it was 20 winged light needed, hence the cape symbol in the gate. pThink

molten shell
#

I always thought it was 20 spirits but I could be wrong tbh

#

I thought you needed a minimum of 60 wl to enter Eden, though.

late shuttle
#

thank you uzephi and krilled, XD ngl im lost but I kinda get what's going on

river urchin
#

Nope, I go in right after rebirth when we test stuff in beta and I definitely don't have 60 wing buffs.

#

Yeah, the ending is... A little advanced for some with a younger mindset.

molten shell
#

Double checked and yee, was wrong, sorry.

Yeah. It's great for everyone but the ending is a little...traumatic.

late shuttle
#

bruh he was devastated

#

I feel so bad

#

he's still spacing out a bit;; ima just give hugs and some candies lmao

molten shell
#

Yee...give him hugs for me, lol. It's tragic.

Anyways, this is still the lore discussion, so perhaps such a conversation should be scooted on over to #cozy-sky-discussion #general-sky-discussion or sent to DMs :)

late shuttle
#

oo

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sorry

river urchin
#

Eden is sort of optional it just means you won't get ascended candles which are used for ascending friendships and getting what's called "wing buffs" which makes your character stronger in a sense.

gilded fossil
#

/okay i heard someone said the white boi in black room and us are connected- does that mean the white boi gets stronger along with us

queen locust
gilded fossil
#

/imagine they go full dragon ball-

queen locust
#

Every time we're reborn, we're told that we get stronger- but we don't know what ultimate purpose it serves. Sure, it gives us more flight energy, but there has to be some kind of end game for that

#

Wing buffs from ascended spirits become a permanent part of us- and every spirit is part of a constellation

#

Constellations- 'stars united', maybe?

gilded fossil
#

/oooooh

#

/wait didnt they say sth about the united stars in the intro?

queen locust
#

Yeah- but it was also mentioned that the stars that fell in the Intro were the Elders

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Not the Ancestors

#

However

#

Each Elder has a corresponding constellation that can be completed- and this constellation can only be completed through reliving and ascending the spirits who are part of it

#

Stars by proxy

gilded fossil
#

/i still dont get it really--- like sometimes you go farm and run around and have fun but then you really look into it why the elders need a finished constellation to complete

queen locust
#

Maybe it's their own form of Ascension?

#

We don't exactly get true indication that we've truly freed them from whatever hell they've found themselves bound to because I don't think they're dead when we meet them

#

Or at least- not dead in the same way as the Ancestors

#

Tbh I don't really get what the in-universe connection those specific Ancestors have with their respective Elders- design-wise it's easy to tell

#

Since there's other constellations that exist and all and they don't have Elders

gilded fossil
#

/and why dont the other seasonal emotes have an elder assosiated

#

/also we feed them candles

queen locust
#

Mostly I just chalk up the seasonal constellations as not having an Elder because their bond was enough to warrant them their own constellation

gilded fossil
#

/is it bcus the qg countss as an elder?

queen locust
#

Imo, I don't think so

#

Questgivers are weird outliers, but I don't think they count as elders

gilded fossil
#

/okay but consider the anubis dude

queen locust
#

Actually now that you mention Anubis dude

#

This'll be far-fetched but I wonder if Prophecy took place in a time before the Elders fell too

gilded fossil
#

/is he the first elder- the pre elder

#

/the elder before elder was a thing

queen locust
#

They're depicted in the murals, yes- but if they were adding those murals back then as the events unfolded, there was a time were the Elders don't enter the picture until later

queen locust
#

and because I like to assume that the glowy kid who passed those Trials was the Eden Elder this causes a few problems

gilded fossil
#

/wait i like that-imagine a power conflict

queen locust
#

Between who?

gilded fossil
#

/the anubis dude and the elders

queen locust
#

How do you think that would go down? cuz I think it'd be pretty awesome-

molten shell
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Perhaps Anubis/Sir Prophecy + his merry team of Prophets predicted/prophesied something about the fall of the Elders, which the Elders didn't appreciate at all, fighting back against him.

I feel like, while Prophecy cave is a 'mystical, holy place', per day, it also seems like a prison, perhaps though, it wasn't always.

The elders, maybe, forced the Prophets there eternally with their trials to watch the others suffer in penance, and the Prophets created the murals to still tell the story.

Far fetched but eh, Sky is vague enough that far fetched theories seem okay.

queen locust
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that- I agree with that-

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With one little deviation on my part

molten shell
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It doesn't feel like it was always a prison, but it eventually became one instead.

Ooh, tell?

queen locust
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I believe Isle Elder in particular was on the side of the Prophets for this one

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Him, mostly because of the implications of the Eden gate

molten shell
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That's possible! I could definitely agree with that. Isle elder does seem like an outlier compared to the other elders, and there is the implications there.

queen locust
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Everything took place in that realm, under his temple- I find it difficult that he wouldn't have played some ind of hand in that

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When the jig was up- that could have been the moment Isle was cut off from the rest of the Kingdom- alongside the warnings of the Prophets

molten shell
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With all those crashed boats, yeah...and if we consider once more some of the original isle designs, there were the potentially dead skids on the beach, which could kinda hint at the fact that he was cut away, thought of as a betrayer by the others for allowing such a thing to occur in his realm and given no help when anything grew awry.

queen locust
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I wonder if this could have had any bearing on the war

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Or Isle was perceived as traitorous enough that people just left them alone

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It's a long way to Prairie after all

hushed steeple
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👀

molten shell
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...what symbols are on Isle and the temple? I've never checked but it could clue us in.

I wouldn't be surprised, though, if the reason there's no implications of any war on Isle is because it was completely sliced away and almost forgotten.

hushed steeple
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Do you think the trials were a training ground for the war?

queen locust
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Prophecy notwithstanding, there were a lot of murals depicting stars falling

molten shell
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They could have been, but I feel they were more of a...spiritual thing? Not really a training sort of thing.

queen locust
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And idk if they knew at the time that there would be a war?

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I mean- training could still be a thing for the Trials- just not for war though, because they're more of a test than anything

hushed steeple
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True true

queen locust
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Their purpose was to determine who was worthy of the Elements that awaited them at the end- at least that's what I think

hushed steeple
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Or maybe that's what they want you to think 👀 /j

queen locust
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I mean- it was at the start of the Kingdom, and I don't think they'd get into a war so soon after that

molten shell
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Pfffffffft.

But yeah, that's possible. The trials could be to determine these inner strengths and whether or not the trial-taker could handle the element...or a deeper understanding of said element (patience, etc) as the elements could be more symbolic than physical. Perhaps they were intended to determine the next generation of Prophets, since it seems to be pretty agreed upon that any spirits we're reliving are dead, so we know they can die and would probably want heirs.

queen locust
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Hm- adding onto that I actually don't think the Trials killed those who haven't passed them

hushed steeple
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Yeah maybe it's similar to eden in a sense

molten shell
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I moreso meant that the Prophets themselves would eventually die, not any trial takers, lol. I think those who failed to pass probably just...failed and were turned away.

hushed steeple
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Yeah

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Maybe that's why we have a whole village (of dreams buh-dum-tis) perhaps those people who failed just decided to live near valley in order to at least experience second hand achievement(?)

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A bit of a stretch-

molten shell
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Ooh, maybe! And perhaps those who did good but weren't the ones who definitely had heir potential ended up choosing Valley as athletes, because they knew they had the potential skills, even if they weren't worthy of prophethood.

hushed steeple
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Yes!! Over generations of building the village perhaps we finally get to see from the village's pov in which how our main character ( the skating girl) was able to successfully go into performances and such since the village was originally composed of people who were turned away

queen locust
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the game mechanics behind the whole thing kills this thought of mine- but those students we saw in the Prophet cutscenes- I think they might have been some spirits we already saw

hushed steeple
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Yeah!!! I was just going to mention that haha

molten shell
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OOOOOOH perhaps! I wonder if anybody took some good screenshots of them, we could compare.

queen locust
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Oh hold on I think I have smthn like that

hushed steeple
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I know some Rhythm spirits were there in the recent season's cutscenes

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Perhaps the whole Rhythm group is another prime example of showing that you dont need to be a prophet in order to be talented

queen locust
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Credits to Wolf for this

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By virtue of Ascended Spirit game mechanics, this has been debunked- to some extent

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Because you know how Ascended spirits- next time you relive them, they're shown with a golden hue?

hushed steeple
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Yeah??

queen locust
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There- debunked

hushed steeple
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Hahaha

molten shell
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Rip

hushed steeple
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Damn 😔

queen locust
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I've ascended all of those spirits- not a speck of gold in the cutscenes

hushed steeple
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Maybe that was them when they themselves were students

queen locust
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Holding onto that thought mostly because Candlemaker being a student is too much of a coincidence for me-

hushed steeple
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Notice how nearly those who have capes dont have them

molten shell
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True. It's best assumed that all of Prophecy takes place before anything else, so, because of it being so far in the past, they may not count as being relived.

hushed steeple
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By the time you've made them golden, theyve already gotten their capes and such

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Damn and Bell maker is skinny too-

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Hahaha

queen locust
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she and light catcher became fun-sized-

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more space for hugs

molten shell
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...I'm just now realizing that Survivor is wearing a dress

No wonder they're stuck in graveyard, how do they expect to outrun krill in a floorlength gown?

queen locust
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To be fair on them that dress is loose

molten shell
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I smell comic potential.

hushed steeple
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If this is before everything we know present day, this was before gw possibly became a thing

queen locust
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I'd imagine it'd be relatively easy to run in that- so long as they were being sneaky about it

hushed steeple
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Then again back to the war later on

queen locust
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The name 'survivor' makes me think otherwise actually

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There's the possibility that the memory takes place in the aftermath of the war

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a brief, very very short aftermath

hushed steeple
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Perhaps!!

molten shell
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They'd really have to hike it up though to avoid tripping. And they don't touch it in any of their memories. How did they not fall on their face?

Theyre dead, they clearly didn't survive in the end, lol

hushed steeple
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HAHAHA nO

queen locust
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I'd think if anyone was gonna be good on their feet even in a floor-length dress, it'd be them

hushed steeple
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Maybe that's why he's hiding where he is haha

queen locust
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anyway-

hushed steeple
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Pfft

queen locust
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Assuming they're one of the students from earlier

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It looks like they were assigned to Air Prophet

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And Air is associated with Balance

hushed steeple
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(Maybe that's why he can sneak around in that gown I-)

queen locust
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time to add that to the little nods of why these spirits can be the vanilla spirits too-

hushed steeple
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wheeze

queen locust
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actually remember Candlemaker from earlier

hushed steeple
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Yes?

queen locust
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assuming that's him in the Trials, he's training under the Fire Prophet

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That his spirit memory was updated after Prophecy was a bit sus to me because it's a bit too perfect

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When Prophecy dropped, he was still called Pilgrim

hushed steeple
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That's right >:000

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I didn't realize that until now

queen locust
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and because I'm a sucker for making up stories about these very dead people we know basically nothing about- I like to think he and the Courageous Soldier were classmates

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Because notice how Fire is associated with Courage

hushed steeple
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Aww right before Soldier became well- a soldier

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✨ah yes the war✨

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Hahaha

queen locust
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So that's one student that embodies the Courage part of it, and the other student who works with fire through his candles

hushed steeple
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Y e s

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That's adorable haha

queen locust
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Lmao- I'm having trouble tryna connect the others with their elements too tho

hushed steeple
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Same ahha

queen locust
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We did the Survivor from earlier with the dress thing- but Bellmaker is harder to account for

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Did they have to carry around heavy bells?

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Because I kinda forgot some of the cutscenes aksjkajska

hushed steeple
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Since Pointing pilgrim is training under fire, his pointing emote could be a link to what he learned during those lessons :0

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Hmm i didn't see any bells

queen locust
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...and I just realized we have two Bellmakers dARNIT-

hushed steeple
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HAHAHA

queen locust
hushed steeple
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Yeah!!

queen locust
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and before the cutscene was updated I kind of thought he was supposed to be pointing us toward the Cave but ajsjhjshja

hushed steeple
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In his new cutscenes he apparently has a family or returning to one

queen locust
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Like there's a lot of things in that general direction

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The spirit gate, the Isle Temple, the Cave- Eden

hushed steeple
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Y e s

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Eden is probably the final trial

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For all of us in sky haha

molten shell
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I mean...fire (the rocks break red), water (toxic water everywhere), air (it's very windy), earth (again, the rocks flying to hit you)

hushed steeple
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EXACTLY

molten shell
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...What if the trials were to prepare others for rebirth?

queen locust
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Given the origin context though I doubt they were training people for a disaster they won't live to fix

molten shell
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To ensure they'd be as successful as possible.

hushed steeple
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THOSE TRIALS WEREN'T FOR THE WAR THEY WERE FOR EDEN

pastel brookBOT
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You can do it @hushed steeple, I believe in you!

hushed steeple
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hahahaha

molten shell
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And then, maybe, while the original meaning was for Eden, they were still watching for their heir. Or...one of those may have been the first reason before the reasoning had to change.

hushed steeple
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And the murals in the cave!!!! If you've unlocked the little part of a child glowing and such maybe that symbolizes the rebirth

queen locust
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I don't doubt the parallels in danger between Eden and the Trials, but I think those Trials would have been repurposed instead of that being their original purpose

hushed steeple
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The one thing that the prophets probably predicted

queen locust
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training for Eden I mean

hushed steeple
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But then that leads to the question, what was the original purpose? (i mean i know we've discussed them probably becoming a prophet but now it makes you think 👀)

queen locust
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Selecting an heir to the Elements imo

hushed steeple
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Hmmm

queen locust
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And I don't mean one for each one- I mean all of them

hushed steeple
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Maybe :0

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Maybe to become the next elder/season guide?

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Like Sir Anubis??

queen locust
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Prophecy and it's murals as I understand them basically depicted the selection of a leader among leaders- one worthy enough to best and control the Elements would be one worthy enough to lead them all to prosperity

molten shell
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...what if Sir Anubis was not the leader, but instead the one who succeeded in all four trials.

hushed steeple
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👀

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Maybe he was a student

molten shell
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I mean, Dream guides memories are from her past...

hushed steeple
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He looks young

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Yeah

molten shell
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His hair is very similar to courageous soldier, so that may have actually been him on the end of the row.

hushed steeple
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Sir Anubis could've been the one kid that became a prophet but instead chose to warn future students about the trials

queen locust
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But if he was the one who passed those trials I find it strange that he'd submit himself to the military as a mere soldier

hushed steeple
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Maybe thats why the end goal for each trial now becomes similar to eden's conditions

queen locust
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Serving under an Elder no less

molten shell
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Because he isn't courageous soldier. He just looks similar. Courageous soldier may not have been there at all.

And ye, perhaps there's something dangerous about possessing the gifts of the prophets, enough that it shouldn't continue on and he wants the gift to die with him for the safety of others.

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Or, at least, it comes with enough of a price that he doesn't want it taken lightly.

queen locust
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See the thing about the Elements was that they seemed to have played quite the role in building the Kingdom up to it's peak

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Being able to control them is no small feat

hushed steeple
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Well im guessing in war you have to contribute nonetheless, and plus, if Sir Anubis mastered all of the trials, he could be considered as a sort of military leader or at the very least a member to fend off krills and such?

pastel brookBOT
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It's dangerous to go alone! Take some friends with you SkyGoTeam

molten shell
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Ya know....I sometimes wonder...his mask...

Anubis is God of...judgement of the dead, right? Or the dead overall? I wonder if the mask decision ties in anywhere.

queen locust
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A psychopomp as I've seen most people in this chat describe Anubis

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Basically a guide and judge for the dead in Egypt

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Xolotl from South America serves the same role and has more or less the same appearance

hushed steeple
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Ah yes back to him being a guide instead of a prophet

queen locust
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I mean- he could be both

hushed steeple
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Maybe!!

molten shell
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If something has the strength to build a kingdom, it has the strength to topple it. Perhaps he was trapped away in that cave in fear that he would turn against them.

Oh, interesting! Yee, I need to look into Egyptian myth more.

hushed steeple
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Yes!!

queen locust
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Self-exile?

molten shell
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Could be either.

hushed steeple
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Yeah

queen locust
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Anubis is overrated but at least the way he hands down his verdicts is clear

hushed steeple
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Yes yes yes

queen locust
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Depending on the weight of your heart you could be sent to heaven or hell- lighter than a feather, and you go to heaven

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He's also the god of mummification- just to stick it on there

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< death, mummification, embalming, the afterlife, cemeteries, tombs, and the Underworld>

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and there's the list of other things he's the god of according to Wikipedia-

hushed steeple
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Do you think the reason as to why it takes so long to reach the cave is because it's possibly just an old ruin? If this has taken place years before how we see sky today, these were all of his and other prophet's memories.. They probably went down with ths place.. Maybe they quite literally caved themselves in

molten shell
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Hmmmmmmmmmm

I feel like it wasn't self-exile, then, but instead forced if we're considering the two comparable.

Anyways, it's late so I fear I need to crash,but I'm having fun theorizing with you two!

queen locust
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why is it with Egyptian mythology they're never god of just one thing oh my god

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Oop- nighty night then dude

hushed steeple
queen locust
hushed steeple
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Maybe!!

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Like the pyramids almost

queen locust
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The clouds are receding at really weird intervals and revealing places hidden away bit by bit- if there's a story-related reason for it idk what it is

hushed steeple
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Idk either but yes >:D

queen locust
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Like before this we had some expanded areas- I think the first of these was from Belonging, showed us the Underground Cavern

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Plus Archives

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akskajskja if there's anything else expanded before this idk lemme check real quick

hushed steeple
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Oh oki

queen locust
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yep it's Belonging-

hushed steeple
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:0000

queen locust
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Archives and Underground Cavern I think were shown to us first to show us that there's more to the Kingdom than we initially thought? Like Archives especially, because we still don't know what kind of secrets they're keeping down there- or what broke in and stole what

hushed steeple
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Oooo

queen locust
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Oh yeah- Belonging also had that area to the side of the Isle Temple where the Boogie kid was

hushed steeple
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Perhaps Vault has everything but then again if there was something about prophecy we would probably see it beforehand

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Oh yeahhh

queen locust
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assuming it was building up to tiny reveals then if it was shown before Prophecy I think Archives was more or less meant to stir us up like

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'hey there's this entire section of forbidden knowledge that we can't read because skids are illiterate'

hushed steeple
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Rewrite history 👁️ 👁️

queen locust
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There weren't any areas added for Rhythm were there-

hushed steeple
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Hmmm no i don't think so

queen locust
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Enchantment's next then and I think this definitely meant to set up Prophecy

hushed steeple
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Ooo

queen locust
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It isn't a coincidence that the colored orbs remind us so much of the Elements- or vice versa anyway

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Plus it introduces a larger magic into the scene- and a new set of murals

hushed steeple
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Yes!! That is true!!

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Maybe the boat that Enchantment has is a boat from Prophecy before Isle's downfall

queen locust
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Sanctuary I know is supposed to be a get-away, lighthearted Season- but lore-wise I think it's crucial because of the abundance of light creature diversity it has

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huh- always thought the Enchantment boat came from the likes of Vault

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I've seen people argue that it was from Wasteland too- sometime when the pollution started to become a problem

hushed steeple
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Hmmm in Isle there is a little section hidden in the sand that once you enter its like a small cave path and at the end it has several orbs like what the Enchantment boat has in order to get merch and stuff

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Maybe its connected to that idea that the boat is from Prophecy/Isle??

queen locust
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Idk what section that is? around which part tho

hushed steeple
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Hmmm i believe before the pointing pilgrim(?) Or around that area

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There isnt anything to do there but just look at the orbs

queen locust
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I'd like to see pics of this- I haven't seen anything of the sort so far XD

hushed steeple
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Oh hang on lemme see haha

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Right behind the pointing emote

queen locust
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I actually meant the orbs lmao

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Hang on-

hushed steeple
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O h aksjsjjsjajshahahaha omg im sorry

queen locust
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Tis okie tis okie XD

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wh- nOBODY'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SPOT WHAT THE HECK

hushed steeple
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HAHAHAHA

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SEE????

queen locust
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WHAT IS IT JUST D O I N G HERE-

hushed steeple
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EXACTLY

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WHICH IS WHY I THINK THE ENCHANTMENT BOAT IS FROM ISLE/PROPHECY

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The orbs are just there???? They must be a side experiment of sorts??? The relate to the elements so much it must be from Prophecy way back when.. What if isle wasnt originally a huge desert????

queen locust
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I don't think it wasn't originally a desert either- but there's something about Enchantment that I forgot to mention

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And that's that they were likely working alongside the Lightseekers

hushed steeple
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Yes!!

queen locust
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wait actually

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it's peculiar that there's only three of these light orbs

hushed steeple
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Yeah!!

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Right??? It must be a test of sorts from the Prophets

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Its in a secluded cave area

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No one really sees it and its underground just like prophecy 👀

queen locust
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Wonder if it's part of an update or smthn

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Or if it's been there since the first global release

hushed steeple
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Dont know but its been there for a while now

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Yeah

queen locust
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i'm not over how ominous this place is aksjkajska

hushed steeple
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Hahaha

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Very haha

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That's why im linking it to Prophecy and the idea that the Enchantment boat is from there after a long time of working on those little orbs

queen locust
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wait- there's other sets of three from Isle that I'm kind of suspicious of

hushed steeple
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??

queen locust
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darnit it's not in order

hushed steeple
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!!! Woah that's right ajsjdjs

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Hahah no worries

queen locust
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And funny you mention Enchantment

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Because those first three show up in the Ark as well

hushed steeple
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And im guessing that boat is from isle

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The people of Enchantment were once from isle

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Maybe they were under the prophet's trials and such

queen locust