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Uh

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Shhh

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NEXT

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Where's earth

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Jk jk

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XD

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If

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Hhold on

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Orbit is risky because like somethings aren't actually to be take literally?

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First

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scenario time

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And are just there anesthetic imo

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Oke

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This is 1st person

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Like

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You are the skykid

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Ok

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At a certain time

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POV, I'm skykid

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You go through a frickin magical portal

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That built itself

restive cosmos
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If eden is named after the garden of eden does that mean we can draw bible parallels between the lore of sky

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Its a certain time period (season of dreams)

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WOWZA LOOK AT THAT

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NEW AREA

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Now explain

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HOW

queen locust
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i sure hope it's that Garden of Eden because they also have the Vault mural that tells as much

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You can but it's not really... Advised per se

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Cuz Eden in Sky is a castle

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Not a garden

queen locust
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I mean yeah but the Garden part isn't what makes it Eden

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The fact that it was meant to be a paradise was

fierce torrent
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I put all my bad English into that scenario

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Hmm

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Okay

queen locust
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A paradise- as well as ground zero for the Original Sin

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giggles in rejected

queen locust
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The sin of shoving kids into diamonds and blowing up your kingdom

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WAIT WHAT IS THAT ORB

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MAJSJJS

queen locust
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This right here is what leads me to believe it was indeed based off of the Garden of Eden tale

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symbolically that orb is the proverbial 'forbidden fruit'

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Kids souls

queen locust
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You know that thing where Eve eats the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge

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Yes continue

supple sluice
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Hmmm ok

queen locust
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nah that's just it for me- I'm just as stumped as you guys are as to what that could be

fierce torrent
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So-

queen locust
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In a non-symbolic sense at least

supple sluice
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It could be a diamond

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King is body snatcher

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Case closed

supple sluice
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Or an element orb

queen locust
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Basing it off the Eden story it'd be safe to assume it has something to do with the fall

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Not the fall fall

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Just the beginning of the end rather than the actual end

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at least that's how I see it-

fierce torrent
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My 2 Asian Canadian braincells

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What-

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I barely know lore

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And English words being repeated makes me more confused

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Elaborate

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But verbose

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But a summary

queen locust
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Ah sorry- when I say beginning of the end, I mean it could be something that triggered a chain of events that would lead to the Kingdom being destroyed

restive cosmos
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Ok so Eve is the elders

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Based of another theory on sky discord

queen locust
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It's not the same as saying that the orb is the actual cause, more like... It's the snowball that turned into an avalanche

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OHHHH

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Like uh

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The domino effect?

restive cosmos
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The power diamonds are the fruit

queen locust
restive cosmos
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And Adam is the king

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oop wait wrong reply

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Hmmm

queen locust
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Domino effect is what I meant to reply to XD

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so everyone was married to the king

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JKJK

queen locust
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XKSKCKSKXK

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I-

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HUH

restive cosmos
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KING OF HEARTS

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JJSJEJDKODOOFF

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JCKSJDJSJDD

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UH ANYWAY

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Everyone is kings pog champ

restive cosmos
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Ok anyways the diamond explosion is them getting banned from the garden of eden

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Wait

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Huh-

true grove
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ORE?-

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Im-

supple sluice
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I've... Never seen that

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I have

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Bad graphics

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To me it seems too pixelated to fit in as a not-bug

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Not graphics necessarily

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More like

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Bad rendering

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Happens to everyone

true grove
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Ye but it's cool SkyCozy

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He he

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Sorry to divert from the topic

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Imma head out

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HèË hƏè

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Hm

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I mean

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...... Oh god almost said the m-name

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Morgan?

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The Messiah?

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Megan

pastel brookBOT
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wait who are we talking about? stickerHuh

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Xf

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MAI FROM SEISHUN BUTA YARAO BUNNY GIRL SENPAI ANIME MOVJE?

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.... YEAH

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Oh

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YEAH I GET IT, MEGAN BAD. ONLY MEGABIRD.

pastel brookBOT
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wait who are we talking about? stickerHuh

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Megabird is the uh

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"bird" we see in the end credits

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Oh

queen locust
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basically they're the concept god of the game

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I didn't see

bitter shale
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Basil???? aaaahhEyes

true grove
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Btw king's story is the most open ended there might not be enough clues in game to understand what happened pSkyPeek

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I'll re-watch

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Back to lore

queen locust
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Hmmm

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What if

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Skykids

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Yep

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Are

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King kids

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Reborn from pure destiny

queen locust
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It wouldn't hurt to type these out in full sentences

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(Just to honk at each other excessively)

true grove
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SkyLOL seraph pspspsps

bitter shale
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who to heckers said pspsps

true grove
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^

queen locust
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We can't test our luck here with that XD

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Hmmm

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I'll take one for the team

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COCA COLE ESPUMA

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COCA COLA ESPUMA

true grove
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Seraph believes in the theory that we are part of the king like when king died he divided into a million part and those parts fell on earth as skids

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HMMM

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Earth?

bitter shale
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I have two possibilities of what skid is :

  1. Skid are created by megabirb after the kingdom fell, to bring the stars back
  2. Skid are created by sky people, in case if their kingdom fell someday in the future skid can revive those who got stuck on sky world and bring them back to stars (like a backup plan)
true grove
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Hmm

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E a r t h

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Wait

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WAITTT

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HOLD ON

queen locust
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aight time for me to commit class cya'll-

bitter shale
queen locust
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Have fun loring XD

bitter shale
true grove
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Floshie that t2o is hurting my brain
I just tried to read it like 5 times before realizing it's two

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Im sorry lmao i didnt even realize that-

true grove
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IF THIS IS THE SOLAR SYSTEM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

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Where's the other planets

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Would they be affected by orbit

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WHERE IS THIS HAPPENING

true grove
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We see other planets in the credits and they all are part of megabird so-

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They might be having there own life cycle

upbeat void
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Hey πŸ‘‹ im back

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Wait

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I know I know the answer

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But

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The explosion/bad bad chaos

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Would it have affected said planets

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Oh also what about the shy monster

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Yknow

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Fish looking thing

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In sunny forest

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And I think on the way to orbit

restive cosmos
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Yes

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There's 2?

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Thought it was just one

cold steppe
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there's 3

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there's a theory that it's the same one in 3 places though

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I mean

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That would make a little more sense

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The shy monster hides bc shy

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(πŸ‘‰πŸ‘ˆ)

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And

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Its species slowly dies out

small dawn
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Does anyone know what purpose does the abandoned place in butterfly cave in hidden Forrest it was created

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Hmmm

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In underground forest?

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Yeah

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I'll have to look into that

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Nothning therer

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Empty

queen locust
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Tis empty but that goes for Underground Cavern as a whole I think

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An abandoned mine system of some kind

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But it IS weird that the place with the butterflies isn't more developed considering it's next to an entrance/exit

hushed steeple
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Your pfp-

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Could it be...?

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*O m o r i F l a s h b a c k s pFIRE

white bough
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Are Sky and Journey connected?

cold steppe
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Sky is considered Journey's spiritual successor, which can be interpreted as you will

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but TGC has not officially linked the two together

bitter shale
vestal lichen
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Maybe Journey is a sort of Mythos in the Sky universe

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Wait wait

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You know that one 2 player door at Vault with the symbolck on the blocks and stuff

bitter shale
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Lemme tell yall soemthing. In the credit scene, we can see another planet that got color pallete of journey

bitter shale
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YALL I THINK THERES SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH JOURNEY AND SKY

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Ok yeah theres alot but here

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The one area in vault

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The 2 player door to the right when you get there

bitter shale
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Yea

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That one

vestal lichen
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THE SYMBOLS

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The purple light area you can see in these symbols on the walls

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Lemme take a screenshot of it real quick

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Nope

glad galleon
vestal lichen
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But im gonna assume that Journey is basically a mythos in the world of Sky

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Since the both look similar

graceful osprey
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the runes look very similar

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on closer inspection, you can see that the runes in journey have 4 quadrants, and all lines must be horizontal or vertical

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whereas in sky, they can be diagonal as well, and they don't have to be split into 4 squares

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So where is the location of the ts?

graceful osprey
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there are a few reused letters

graceful osprey
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It is the crab walk

celest violet
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Ah crab πŸ˜‘

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TGC tricked us

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I can't believe this

graceful osprey
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I've been waiting tthe whole day

graceful osprey
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so i'm gonna check

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dont fall for it

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It's a trap

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Hope they will fix it soon

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If they said they delayed the respect spirit I'll literally die

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What happened to the duck?????

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its a miracle for me

shadow star
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Hi lore guys can you guys help me with find thing with tgc says no nationality and equal thingy about?

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Gnonim, streamings, or google doc, anything will be ok!

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Something something like this will be okey! Anything related to he equal will be glad!

celest violet
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Hmm chat broke

shadow star
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Place dm me if you found anything related about it!

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/there was an article stating who sky kids are designed

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/interview with jenova chen?? i dont remember

shadow star
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Interview with jenova chan has it too?

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Oh i never khow that! Gotta check! Thx!

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First one is the pic the yui tananbes words! Tysm!

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I love crab dance

restive cosmos
median stone
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It's sad... ||that someone can misread the meaning of these cosmetics and this game culture..... Even make it like they wanna make it like a demonstration to reject the idea of sky||

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**sus

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My headcannon is that they both bought pants from the same store one late summer's afternoon in the year of our birb, 245 stickerPlease

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After meeting for the first time they would grow closer together until eventually they started dating! Sadly however, they would end up splitting up after a heated argument...

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birbs together strong

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WEBEBJDKERND WHY DON'T YOU HAVE AN ICON!??!? @gray timber

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WHAT SORCERY IS THIS!?!?

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iconless mask

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it's only 9999999 hearts

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Theory: I believe the spears in sky were versatile in that they could be used as melee stabbing weapons or ranged projectile weapons. The golden wasteland elder is the only Elder to shoot this type of energy projectile from his item. It may have a limited number of firing rounds and needs to be charged by light in order for it to be used as a projectile weapon as the Elder can’t shoot it until after it is given light and then the handle or stick part of the weapon is charged with light.

Please vote OreoYes if you believe it was also used as a projectile weapon or OreoNo if you believe it was only used as a melee and throwing spear.

distant turtle
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Melee only

true grove
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It could be used as both depending on situations but all of the shields and spears suggest that those were used as projectile.

hushed steeple
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Ok guys from now on

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I shall call our "homespace", as
"The light"

distant turtle
hushed steeple
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Jkjk

graceful osprey
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there was definitely a diamond spear. but were there any sun spears?

hushed steeple
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Idk-

graceful osprey
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are there any weapons in eden?

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why would they be there. who were they fighting

compact olive
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Also the pants of winger pianist is same as QG

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Winger pianist-

Im sorry i cant help but imagine that guy with chicken wing cape

compact olive
# hushed steeple Speaking of spears... The Wasteland elder had a spear and Sun shield right? So...

I have come to the conclusion that there was no difference between weapons βš”οΈ or shields πŸ›‘

I only think this way because a spear is thrown into a sun/star shield and the golden wasteland Elder has both. Which could mean several things:

  1. there were either traitors if diamonds and star shields represent two opposing sides.

  2. the civilization has a civil war and both sides originally using both emblems and weapons had a battle without changing visual queues as far as the weapons and shields goes.

  3. there were two factions split by diamond and star shields πŸ›‘ but a diamond soldier somehow got hold of the enemies spear and used it against the star soldier

hushed steeple
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O h h

compact olive
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I tend to use the occum’s razor method of approaching things.

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The idea that has the least amount of assumptions is most likely the true answer to me

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It is less of a leap of logic that spears attacked Star shields and the elder wields both, so there was no difference between the weapons and shields πŸ›‘ other than a Spartans phalanx method of fighting verses their sword and diamond shield grunt infantry.....than it is to assume infiltration, subterfuge and or betrayal of two different factions.

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Also the fact that the golden wasteland Elder has a star shield is very telling that there was no difference as he was a loyal subject of the king and built the wasteland fortress for the king. So having the star shield would mean the star shield represents the king and the diamonds don’t. But....

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The diamond also represents the power source that was used and abused by the king to cause the war with the creatures in the first place

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Manta juicer and all

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Again this is only my line of logic

hushed steeple
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Ok but what is happening on Twitter

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Ah....

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cultural dissonance.

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Long story short people can't agree on if the dancing performer's hat is Korean or Chinese

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And it's exploded

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To be fair a similar thing could be said about the pipa/maybe-not-a-pipa

fierce lagoon
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As a korean myself uh, yikes

supple sluice
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Yeah sadly I don't know enough about either culture to make an educated guess

fierce lagoon
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This happened in a different game before so;;

supple sluice
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Ah....

fierce lagoon
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Hence why twitter is a lot more sensitive this time

hushed steeple
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Yeah-

supple sluice
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sigh I've never seen something so heated before in this server

fierce lagoon
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Same.

supple sluice
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Except for when the mods suggested we stop using Fandom terms in lore chat and stop enforcing canon-

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But that's besides the point.

fierce lagoon
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In the other game, the company basically did the same thing and claimed a hanbok outfit actually was chinese

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And then uh, chaos ensued

supple sluice
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Yikes.

fierce lagoon
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So I can see why k-netizens are more angry this time

supple sluice
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Man, that's rough

fierce lagoon
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Yeah, China and SK got pretty bad tension between them which kinda sucks.

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I actually came back to the chat today after about a week or so?

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And then I realized that general chat was locked

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so was kinda confused but when i realized it involved koreans it kinda made me feel a bit er

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sad-ish

supple sluice
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Ah....

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.... I'd rather not discuss it here, honestly, but I feel sorry for you guys, that this is an issue

fierce lagoon
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Yeah I should drop this haha;;

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But happens, 'ts fine

supple sluice
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Yeahh....

zealous sedge
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Do share your thoughts and feelings in #live-feedback , but given the very real potential for arguments and bad feeling, we really need to try and keep this topic off the server for the time being. stickerLove

spring blaze
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^^

supple sluice
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Mhm.... Yeah

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It's an important discussion to have civally, but this isn't a place for such

zealous sedge
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dust needs to settle, thoughts collected and organised, before a calm and effective discussion can be had.

supple sluice
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Mhm....

normal berry
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woooooowee I came back to quite a show, how's everyone doin today

fierce lagoon
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pffft

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Decent, hbu?

zealous sedge
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Also, I've just realise this is lore channel, and not the place regardless. lets do our best to stick to appropriate channels for any and all discussions that need to take place.

graceful osprey
hazy stone
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Maybe we should speak about lore again.

graceful osprey
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yay

fierce lagoon
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yes lore

normal berry
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mhm lore

hazy stone
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Thought it might contribute to lore.

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The timing of the messages

graceful osprey
sacred rapids
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what's more believable
even was dug around the diamond
or
eden is in a volcano caldera

untold sun
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Maybe a grave for someone? Or something DUN DUN DUN

hazy stone
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Ooo! Cool.

supple sluice
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Pfff

lapis notch
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Maybe a clock??

supple sluice
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It's a clock for a rainbow

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Apparently when the dots line up a rainbow shows up or something

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I haven't seen it myself, sadly

untold sun
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Ooo really??? That sounds cool!

sacred rapids
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am and pm

spring blaze
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yes! every 5am/pm pst, a rainbow appears in the area stickerPlease

untold sun
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Wow

hazy stone
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Also, another thing. When you click a friend they just, jump from the sky looking like stars.

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Then you see what their sky-kid looks like.

supple sluice
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Yeee

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Hehe

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I think we're all stars

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.... Though... Are we the only creature to return to the stars whenever we please?

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Cuz we can die and go to orbit, and when we boot up the game our sky child sorta just appears from a holy beam

untold sun
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What about the mantas? What are their purpose besides taking us to our destinations?

supple sluice
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Oh!

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Come to think of it like all light creatures return to Orbit-

zealous sedge
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There used to be a quest in old beta to rescue mantas that were locked in cage type thing ... there is another clock still in the level somewhere on the temple walls that used to tell you when the mantas were there for saving.

untold sun
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Ooo that sounds interesting!

supple sluice
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Oooh!

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Interesting...

spring blaze
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technically you still need to rescue mantas in current sky pManta

zealous sedge
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the purpose of the temple and the contraption inside was to extract the light from mantas or other light creatures in order to manufacture the power diamonds. It is very interesting to note that we as sky kids are instructed to rescue the mantas.

supple sluice
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Yeah...

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We're undoing the messes our ancestors did, huh?

untold sun
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A bit of rambling here, I apologize

What if krills were the evolved version of crabs? Think about it, crabs damage light but not strong enough like the krills.

supple sluice
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Like.... We're trying to keep peace (which goes against the war in Wasteland), free butterflies (which were harvested I guess), and trying to help save everyone, even at the cost of us....

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My question to that would be how would the crab krills get the ability to fly and grow so much XD

untold sun
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Metamorphosis??? πŸ˜‚

supple sluice
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Xd

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They wake up one day going " Hm. I crÀvè chïldrén"

zealous sedge
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if the concept arts were anything to go by, there was a battle between the spirits and the light creatures in the lead up to eden explosion. when eden ultimately exploded it flung corruption out and any living light creatures within close enough reach (but not so close they just died) were transformed in a way. big manta or light creature elders became krill, small ones became crab

untold sun
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Woah

zealous sedge
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You know what? That all made sense until I typed it. But... what happened to spirits? Were they not affected by the corruption that transformed the light creatures? I see holes in that theory. SkyLOL

untold sun
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What if it infected them like a plague and they all died?

grand swift
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darkness is corruption

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so imo when they got corrupted they became the darkness

lapis notch
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I mean we see light too

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Are*

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See you! Good luck!!

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But all those spirits and Elders died an unnatural death, no? Since we don’t see them reincarnating and stuck in limbo.

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I read somewhere in canon lore or theory that all creatures reincarnate no matter what, unless they were killed I guess?

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Besides when we die we become statues. So maybe they too got petrified and, with time, became dust

gilded fossil
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/wait do we become statues?

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/or do we turn into that blue light thing

hollow sparrow
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What is lore

distant turtle
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The in-world history and backstory

willow shoal
bitter shale
tender apex
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umm

compact olive
willow shoal
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Interesting

tough marten
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I believe i've seen it on the back of a cape or the back of a capeless moth before.

bitter shale
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Hmmm its kinda liek the dot on our chest

tough marten
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I'm like 90% sure I've seen the exact same pattern on someone's back

hushed steeple
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GW elder’s cape

tough marten
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oh....

hushed steeple
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All elders got it on their chest I think

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But only sky kids got a glowy point in the diamond

tough marten
hushed steeple
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Forest, Isle have chest covered, twins seem to be missing the two side lines

tough marten
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ya, but the shape is still a tiny bit different.....it doesn't have the curly line on the two sides

hushed steeple
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The <> are easier to see on Prairie

lethal stump
tough marten
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but i'm like 90% sure i've seen the exact same pattern somewhere

hushed steeple
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Its on some gates too I think

willow shoal
half pier
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SkyThink i dont think i should talk about this even tho im completely not sure tell me if i should delete it

I heard some ppl saying there well be another verison of sky but without light about eden and the eden king is this true? Tell me if i should delete it pEyes cause im not sure

true talon
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what? All there is is an old concept art for eden that had the king

half pier
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SkyShrug dunno but saw alot of ppl talking about this

willow shoal
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||Skykids are Saviors ||

viral meadow
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Saviors or what?

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ooh more theories yet to come

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Of not or*

viral meadow
hushed steeple
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Oh finally the poems.

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It really does seem like Forest elder feels guilty

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Pffft β€œlet love and compassion deeply within”-YOINK! HAND OVER THAT LIGHT CHILD!

coarse dune
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What's this difference between regular manta and ghost manta?

graceful osprey
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ghost manta is dead pCosmicManta

true grove
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I have something

rugged oyster
true grove
rugged oyster
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I have to come more to this channel pWow ... I love the lore and hcs...

minor wadi
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I DO NOT like the look of that krill AT ALL

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Jesus it looks so much scarier than the ones in game

distant turtle
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Golden Wasteland wow. Imagine what was there before it was built, when it was just Valley and then Vault

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So long ago

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The Golden Age

quiet crystal
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Hehe I think Wasteland was a nice area like Isle or Prairie, then it got very polluted and green, becoming a wasteland

kind musk
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Heyo Seeker-Lores!

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Wait

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Lore-Seekers*

minor wadi
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Lmao seeker lores pPopcorn

limber coral
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Are there any lores about the trapped manta's? pManta

compact olive
distant turtle
distant turtle
supple sluice
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Yall sky light awaits was... Something else

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Apparently the elders helped bring everyone back to the sky??

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And light falling was a normal thing??

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I-

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I wonder how much of that changed

pastel brookBOT
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what mods? There is only skybot

supple sluice
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Huh

viral meadow
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So what’s the topic of lore discussion rn?

queen locust
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We have falling lights depicted in the Ark Murals and the fact that the Lightseekers exist must imply that stray lights are something to be coveted

supple sluice
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True!

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Another thing is recovering spirit animals... Which I'm jealous of. That's dope.

viral meadow
viral meadow
supple sluice
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Pfff

wind bone
#

Light awaits isn’t really that different from what we have now, it was just unfinished lol

compact olive
rapid juniper
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So maybe I think the elders and spirits are the ones we see in the intro and now they fell and made new home after that skids fell those are the stars we see in the Isle cave mural

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Ok wait a min

pseudo heart
rapid juniper
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Lemme fix my grammar

pseudo heart
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From the murals in Ark and Isle, the people of sky seem to pray to the stars, maybe for some sort of answer/solution for the growing darkness that was spreading across the lands to which was answered by Megabird sending down skykids

rapid juniper
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Yes

pseudo heart
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Iirc Skykids and Ancestors co-existed at one point

rapid juniper
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I can see that the ancestors of enchantment came to gw and try to fix it

pseudo heart
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I think like that too.. Maybe they're merchants from another land coming to sell their land repairing goods to Sky but then uhh

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looks at the ark

hushed steeple
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I just realized both the ark and that shipwreck are both found in the same direction

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Towards here is the ark

compact olive
#

What are your thoughts on using Light Awaits as a reference to fill in some blanks of the sky mystery ?

I’ll give you this very example to explain what I mean by fill in some blanks.

You see at the very end of vault of knowledge we get a piece of ruble on the platform leading to Eden.

But only by looking at light awaits do we know that what is was before it was a pile of stones was a stone statue of the vault elder.

hushed steeple
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And using a mental map, you can see so is the shipwreck

wind bone
hushed steeple
pseudo heart
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I don't rlly agree with using LA,, (tho it's up to you if u want !!) Since most of LA was just unfinished, it saw drastic changes in a short span of time, etc. It's just,, it's also so different from Sky today so uh SkyShrug

hushed steeple
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What's LA?

pseudo heart
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looks at the dead kids that were supposed to be at the start of Isle

hushed steeple
#

A h

compact olive
wind bone
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I don’t think it’s completely real

compact olive
wind bone
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Just vault in general

devout shadow
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So i just realize that the secret room in last place at forest is from LA
It was a great room though :SkyCozy:

compact olive
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So do you think they went from the doors to vault straight to Eden ?

wind bone
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Like the way the vault is accessed I think is using a special technology

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And once you reach the end it breaks completely

compact olive
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Like a portal ?

wind bone
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Meditation is a big thing in sky and I think vault is just one big meditation

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Like even though the elders are dead and gone they can still interact with us and the world when we meditate

compact olive
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This is true

gilded spoke
compact olive
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But how do you rationalize the actual travel. Like at what point in wasteland is solid ruined buildings and from what part do we climb the mountain to Eden’s gate ?

wind bone
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Idk pain a lot of things in sky don’t make much sense

compact olive
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Hmm I

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πŸ€”

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There’s gotta be some sense here to make

wind bone
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Maybe vault is a literal tower

compact olive
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I mean we understand that meditation is what happens and that’s us making sense of the trippy illusions

wind bone
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But what we see isn’t what it actually is

compact olive
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We do all agree that the sky child is on solid land in wasteland and then again at Eden’s gate

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That they are getting hit in the face by real solid red rocks (ark remnants?) in the storm

pseudo heart
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We're going back to "vault is an illusion" theory pThink

wind bone
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I think it’s partly an illusion

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Take the archives for example

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The tunnel seems to come from seemingly nowhere

hushed steeple
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Ok so uh- I learned the hard way that Krill can go through walls-

Especially gates

wind bone
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But the space goes on forever

pseudo heart
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They just clip through

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I think it's game mechanic

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Limitation, whatever

hushed steeple
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Not to mention when we first see one come out even though there was clearly solid ground underneath what was actually shallow water

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Idk-

gilded spoke
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i think the end of vault after the cutscene
we then realize that vault is an illusion

hushed steeple
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Oh we're talking abiut the vault?

pseudo heart
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I don't think illusion

hushed steeple
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Lemme say my thoughts later when ya'll are done

pseudo heart
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Just projections

gilded spoke
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also why would vault elder give the diamond to us just to lift it up?

compact olive
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Well the lanterns can emit light and store and emit memories.... what if the entire building is one giant lantern. Not the shape or purpose but the mechanics. Like it can emit the projections of what vault was/is ?

hushed steeple
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I think it's called the vault of knowledge because those "stones/books" that were stashed away on shelves were like time capsules or memories of other ancestors (kinda like stored versions of the memories we relive) and the vault is divided by realms also because it's a form of organization of where each spirit was from

Jkjk

pseudo heart
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Actually,, yeah..

rapid juniper
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Well we did see it in concept arts

hushed steeple
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Oh really?

hushed steeple
rapid juniper
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Oki wait a min

hushed steeple
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Arigato-

pseudo heart
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I also have a theory that vault's floors tie-in to each realm and as that realm changes, the floor does too

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Maybe GW's floor uses to be teeming with life

hushed steeple
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Hmmm

pseudo heart
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And Valley floor's buildings used to be one piece

compact olive
hushed steeple
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O h h h

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E p i c c

rapid juniper
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Oh lol

pseudo heart
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I think the elevator is also supposed to be a projector

rapid juniper
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It can be

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I also realized our light can make a small diamond

pseudo heart
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Brb class vsjsjwiosd

rapid juniper
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Oki byee

compact olive
gilded spoke
# compact olive

the closest thing in the final version is the moving lamps in vault's secret area

rapid juniper
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Well in forest

compact olive
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Show me!! pFIRE

rapid juniper
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And the village

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Ok lol

compact olive
hushed steeple
hushed steeple
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Jkjk

compact olive
gilded spoke
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anyways why aren't there darkness plants in vault?

compact olive
white shell
compact olive
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It’s most likely because there’s no living creature there and darkness plants usually are where living creatures are sort of

cursive mist
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Maybe because Vault is where skykids learn their fate before sacrificing themselves, that seems to be the last safe place before the storm ?

faint bolt
gilded spoke
cursive mist
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The darkness didnt go in there yet

pseudo heart
gilded spoke
faint bolt
compact olive
faint bolt
gilded spoke
rapid juniper
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Here ye ho

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Oz

faint bolt
rapid juniper
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Theres more

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We can make smlaal diamond

pseudo heart
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Also this isn't a place to ask about oobs hhh

rapid juniper
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I aslo realized that diamond tech is like wireless redstone

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Is the village

compact olive
gilded spoke
faint bolt
gilded spoke
compact olive
rapid juniper
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Yes

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Yes

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Teh small diamond we can make in the village

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what happen

hushed steeple
rapid juniper
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Uhm

gilded spoke
pseudo heart
hushed steeple
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Going down-

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BAHAHHAHAHAHHAH

pseudo heart
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Those are drafts hh

rapid juniper
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Yups it’s wind

gilded spoke
hushed steeple
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O o h h

rapid juniper
#

What kind of bug

gilded spoke
rapid juniper
#

Ah it’s just

pseudo heart
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Oh then it's not for this channel hh

gilded spoke
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oh ok

hushed steeple
#

I feel pretty bad just watching all these people get krilled for lore even though I'm supposed to be a guide-

rapid juniper
#

Sad

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I also realized that krills head butt us because there heads are solid not there bodies

faint bolt
hushed steeple
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Eyeball headbut

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E y e b a l l b u t

rapid juniper
#

Lamo

rapid juniper
hushed steeple
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Aight

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Jkjk

compact olive
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Because they were lifted with the aid of telekinesis

quiet crystal
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Actually why can’t we lift more than one item like what the Levitating Adept does in the cutscene? Or can we?

compact olive
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Because we don’t have enough dark stone in us

hushed steeple
#

I completely forgot that skykids are canonically psychic

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What if that how emote effects work too. Its psi sparkles.

compact olive
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β€œThe dark stones are a path to abilities many would consider ....unnatural”

hushed steeple
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Ooh where was that?

compact olive
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In Star Wars

hushed steeple
#

O

compact olive
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But it’s the same premise

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Dark side light side. Darkness and light

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Telekinesis by dark stone and telekinesis through light

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A once chosen one (prince) becomes a tall dark figure (the king)

compact olive
#

You thought I was joking ?

rapid juniper
#

So they have telekinesis

hushed steeple
#

Vsisbsibjsksisnsjsons

compact olive
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Big mama jama mother forest elder uses telekinesis like three or four times

hushed steeple
#

A h

compact olive
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In concept art the β€œdark stones made them godlike”

rapid juniper
#

Yeah

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To much of it wil corrupt

compact olive
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They destroyed the king

fierce torrent
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A genuine question

vast latch
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Yeah, those are graves

fierce torrent
#

Oh shoot-

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I new it

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Knew*

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Jesus my english

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But why are there graves in a racing area-

vast latch
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To honor previous racers?

fierce torrent
#

Was there and accident or something

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Ohh

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Makes sense

vast latch
#

Who knows how long the elders have ruled over the realms

fierce torrent
#

Eh

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Wait have we discussed the seasons yet

rapid juniper
#

Uyes

fierce torrent
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Because I feel like they link to the lore sometimes pSquint

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Oh

rapid juniper
#

They do link to the lore especially prophecy

fierce torrent
#

Yeah thats what I was thinking

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It was the names for me

pseudo heart
#

Some do

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And some are linked

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Lightseekers and Enchantment

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By some I mean two

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While some are just,, there

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Sanctuary didn't really have anything to contribute, story wise

fierce torrent
#

Eh

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It was just nice

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Even though I missed it

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My friends say its their favorite

pseudo heart
#

It was.. fun sqwarlockDed

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looks at hiking grouch and chill sunbather

distant turtle
distant turtle
undone harbor
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sanctuary was "these kinds of mantas exist in sky world ok" and "yes we do have holidays"

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crab that doesn't attack people as well

distant turtle
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Fun times!

hushed steeple
#

Also Sanctuary was like "Hey help us get mantas so we can breed and skin the adult mantas to make capes and clothing"

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I hate Sanctuary guide

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Just leave the mantas alone pCry

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Idc go be naked pCry

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Sanctuary has a nice sweet crab

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I refuse to believe the nice sweet crab is not canon

gray timber
#

where's the nice crab?

hushed steeple
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On one of the archipelagos on sanc isle

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It's probably because they are exposed to sun but i could be wrong on that

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Since the crab cave aka jelly gorl cave is exposed to sunlight

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And the crabs still attack

rapid juniper
hushed steeple
#

It is pCry

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Our capes are made out of light

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Their capes are cloth

exotic shuttle
#

TGC developers have confirmed the manta cape isn't literally made of any sky creature

gilded fossil
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/no animals were harmed in the making of sanctuary cosmetics

rapid juniper
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No shells were harmed in the making of sanctuary cosmetics

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L

fierce torrent
#

Nice

slate saffron
#

What are the clothes in sky made of?

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They're fire resistant, can be used to heavy winds with no issue, and are also very stylish pWow

rapid juniper
#

Uhm

exotic shuttle
#

some people think the capes are made of Light itself SkyCozy especially since your cape appears after discovering your first winged light

hard minnow
#

That would have to be a really big butterfly for the cape lol

short owl
wild grotto
#

who knows, maybe mantas shed their skins as they grow bigger pSkyPeek

hushed steeple
#

Good i was about to push sanc guide off a cliff

exotic shuttle
#

the specific quote from TGC developer Ktjn:

The capes are Sky creature friendly, made to resemble them, not made from them.
(<#general-sky-discussion message>)

hushed steeple
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If sky kids got light inside and the capes are also made from light. Maybe thats how they make them express? Because its blood light.

rapid juniper
hushed steeple
rapid juniper
#

They i mean

icy spruce
#

O

deft lintel
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They mean by all cap are just made like normal cap
Not with animal skin
Imagine an artisan create an outfit and decide to make a design of an animal he like

restive shard
#

wo

hushed steeple
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I think in some of the arts they call the little lantern dealies in vault memory cubes or something. For projecting memories.

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Maybe the multimantas are memories of some wobbily seamonkey manta that existed at one point

deft lintel
#

They are manta ghost
But all lantern had tiny diamond
They need onky fire for to project the story and information or maybe map they made
Like a giant library

queen locust
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I don't deny there's a connection though

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This same mural from the beginning cave in Isle shows up in the Enchantment Ark, for starters

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Might just be me but I find it difficult to see children falling- namely, sky children- frequently back in the time of the Ancestors

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Not saying it's impossible- just that I find it weird that the lights of Lightseekers and Enchantment and the lights that we know fell were all the same

hushed steeple
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I never thought of the lightseeker light as being fallen. Hum. I thought the fallen stars pretty much consisted of only elders and spirits allll the way up until sky kids started falling.

queen locust
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Imo the sky kids are fallen lights- just not stars, or the kind of lights that the Lightseekers end up looking for

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entertaining the thought for a minute though- I'd interpret it as the Lightseekers coming across some kind of sentient or at least powerful light- if they were lights in the same vein as the skids, it could be a skid without a vessel

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The snag that this interpretation hits however- is if those really were skids, what were they doing there? Lightseekers looked like it took place in a time that was near enough the peak of the Kingdom, where there isn't anyone for the skids to save just yet

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idk I always just thought that if skids were to exist- they'd exist for a purpose relating to Eden

plain fern
# queen locust

I thought those were birds or some creatures of light πŸ‘€

queen locust
#

I don't think they were? They look like stars

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Far right of the one from Isle, you can see one of the stars falling

plain fern
#

That’s what i thought at first too, but the elders were referred to as stars, so the little ones seemed to me more like birds or something

queen locust
#

Here's two murals to help compare- Isle Elder who we know is related to birds

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I guess I can see where the distinction came from with these

plain fern
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Yeah, so those look more like birds than stars xD

hushed steeple
plain fern
#

The ones in the ss above look more like smol mantas

queen locust
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That's what I'd think too if they weren't also plastered all over Bird's Nest

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which I really need to take pics of

plain fern
hushed steeple
queen locust
#

It looks different yeah- but you can see it falling- which would lead me to believe that those smaller marks are also stars

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Only depicted as being in the distance

plain fern
#

It’s kinda hard to judge what they are considering we don’t really get to see stars like that in the game apart from the murals ig

hushed steeple
#

Hmm

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The fact the symbol is also for accessories is still throwing me off-

queen locust
#

I remember once someone having a really long discussion about that specific symbol-

hushed steeple
#

O o p

queen locust
#

I think it was Lime but it's been a while

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hold on let me check-

hushed steeple
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Question, are there murals of the other elders?/indication the ancestors really knew of them

queen locust
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There's Vault and the Prophecy murals

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Other than those ones though Isle Elder is the only one who has extras all over Isle

frank rivet
#

Hi

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Why do you guys think chibi eyes are so weird with wise stance sit pEyes

livid valley
#

how?

frank rivet
queen locust
#

dear lord-

livid valley
#

oh

frank rivet
stark marten
#

Chibi eyes are weird in general, I think that's just a case of chibi mask being buggy and not really a lore thing

livid valley
#

for me id just call it clipping

plain fern
frank rivet
#

Chibi are scary SkyCozy

livid valley
#

two textures interact each other creating that eyes

frank rivet
#

Big eye bag

hushed steeple
#

HHhHHHhHHHHhHH

frank rivet
#

Imagine if there was a mode where we can turn our sky kid’s eyes β€œoff” SkyCozy

hushed steeple
#

Sun symbol also kinda looks like the head of the lil dude in the middle of the opening and the stars the constellations revert into also in the opening.

#

Sky kids got headlight eyes. 100% agree.

#

E h e

hushed steeple
#

The trials involve all 4 elements-

#

PLOT TWIST: WE ARE THE AVATAR

#

Jkjk

bleak ruin
#

LMAOOO

#

istg i was like oh yeah we were frozen for thousands of years and then woke up... now these trials... we are fa sho the avatar

hushed steeple
#

I could be wrong-

queen locust
#

We don't know what exactly it is but there's not a lot of other thing that it could be

hushed steeple
#

Hmm

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The people below the wasteland elder looks like king clones-

tulip dune
#

It's 2:00 AM, I was thinking
the crystals? Will they have memories of the dead citizens in the sky?

hushed steeple
#

Which crystals?

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The blue or the red?

tulip dune
#

No, those vault things

hushed steeple
#

Oh nvm-

tulip dune
#

I forgot what they are called

queen locust
#

Ohhh- the lanterns-

tulip dune
#

That are on the walls

queen locust
#

at least we think they're lanterns-

hushed steeple
hushed steeple
tulip dune
#

Wooooow ✨

hushed steeple
#

Hmm... so each elder had a corresponding element. Except for the Isle and vault.

Still doesn't explain why the isle elder wasn't on the eden door

queen locust
#

Consider that Isle was the birthplace of the Prophecy I guess- at least I think Prophecy has something to do with it

compact olive
#

It’s the class of elder

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Both isle and vault elders are teaching elders. Elders of knowledge

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Every other elder is an elder that helped the people master an element

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The twins teach them how to reaver the winds/air and forest elder the rain and water, and the prairie elder the land and the wasteland elder fire and fire and war

queen locust
#

Oh heya Oz-

compact olive
#

Hiya Viridi

queen locust
#

I do agree with the Vault and Isle Elders being the teaching Elders actually- Vault could have been monitoring everything and Isle could have been the everyman who knows the Elements equally

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I say that mostly because the Isle Elder is depicted as helping transport the Elements, as well as the Elements likely having been from Isle

hushed steeple
#

Jkjk

gray timber
bleak ruin
#

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

graceful osprey
#

About the topic of vault a while ago:
I think that the vault was once real. However, in its proximity to eden, the top gets completely blown off in the explosion. We can see in orbit in an OOB that the vault summit is there for some reason. We can also see that there is a brek on the 3rd floor of vault. So now the knowledge lanterns are the ones which make it seem like the vault is there.

bleak ruin
#

^ I was thinking something lime that because after the cutscene ur in like a room with everything in ruins still... except now there is a portal to eden and a portal to home

#

like that*

bitter shale
#

interesting

bleak ruin
#

yessss

#

also that the door shows the dark stone being made from the trees

#

πŸ‘€

#

where do you think the gold comes from tho?

graceful osprey
#

i was about to ask this soon

graceful osprey
bleak ruin
#

Forest mama is a savage

graceful osprey
bleak ruin
#

dead stars?

#

im hearing u say star zombies

distant turtle
#

Is there lore for the winged light children? They're just helpless versions of us, I guess. Descendants of the light trapped in Sky realm. Whereas we are fresh creations of Megabird, originating from Orbit.

#

Our job is to restore the cycle of light between Sky realm and orbit, which halted when the storm began

#

They are our counterparts originating from stagnant Sky realm light whereas we originate from a stagnant Megabird

hushed steeple
#

Then again they could just share the same seat-

#

Jkjk

pseudo heart
hushed steeple
#

A h

pseudo heart
#

Also how bold of u to assume that one of them wouldn't just sit on the table

hushed steeple
#

P f f t

pseudo heart
#

Maybe the elders got tired of that so they just threw one chair completely

hushed steeple
#

A h

#

Btw speaking of the twins

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I looked up and-

pseudo heart
#

Yes yes hh

#

Snow !!

hushed steeple
#

Tfw when even the snow loves your twin more than you sqwarlockDed

#

Jkjk

pseudo heart
#

JEJEJJWJS

hushed steeple
#

Oh btw

#

Altar number of white candles

Isle: 1
Prairie: 3
Forest: 3
Valley: 3
Wasteland: 3
Vault: 6

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Ok so uh-

#

I'll leave the reasoning why up to you-

distant turtle
#

Their rank

#

Those 4 areas' elders are the ones in prophecy cave. They are of equal rank, (with the twins always in competition for who shows up to the table)

pseudo heart
#

Oh oh speaking of elders

#

I think the reason why Isle and Vault have a light was because they have a different task

hushed steeple
pseudo heart
#

While the other four were tasked to take care of the elements, Isle was tasked to shepherd something, the new generation? Us, skykids? And Vault was tasked to preserve the knowledge for whatever the Isle Elder was shepherding

hushed steeple
#

O h h h

#

Like a past present future thing?

#

Jkjk

distant turtle
#

Ferryman Elder oversees the light and entities returning from Orbit, and wasn't personally involved with the delivery of light up the mountain. The others all were.

hushed steeple
#

Ferryman...Elder...?

pseudo heart
#

Isle elder hh

hushed steeple
#

A h

distant turtle
#

At some point, either when darkness began or the storm began, the cycle to and from Orbit ceased, and Ferryman had no job. He loses his identity, represented by his missing mask. Until we arrive much later.

#

We give him purpose, to ferry light from Orbit onward into the Sky kingdom

hushed steeple
#

Was Eden was created after all those other realms?

#

Or at least the gate

distant turtle
#

We ourselves are part of the light, and the winged light and candles we collect as well

hushed steeple
#

Hmm

distant turtle
#

I would imagine that Eden was created concurrently with the more modern settings, Valley and Vault. Forest is older. Prairie is older still.

#

Wasteland is probably the newest but I'm sure it was prettier before it became ultra fortified

hushed steeple
hushed steeple
distant turtle
#

Isle temple is super old and the butterfly temple in Isle is that age or older, and Isle caves including Prophecy are oldest areas of all

distant turtle
#

Maybe that door is very old, but the destroyed holy castle is newer?

hushed steeple
#

I have a video of the cutscene itself, but gosh-

distant turtle
#

Wow what is it from?

celest palm
#

The oldest beta Sky shows where the skykid landed

#

On a shore

hushed steeple
#

Its from Isle, ushering migrant I think it's called

#

Ah-

celest palm
hushed steeple
#

Yeah sorry I forgot

#

(':

distant turtle
#

Cool I never relived any Isle

#

That first day I was so lost "Is this Zelda?"

hushed steeple
#

The thing that catches my attention most is the shape of the falling star

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Pointing pilgrim

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No problem

graceful osprey
#

sorry for giving anyone depression or anxiety

hushed steeple
#

H u h

distant turtle
hushed steeple
#

They were probably alive when it happened

distant turtle
#

Is it a winged light kid?

hushed steeple
#

It's just that the look of the falling star reminds me of the prince/king

#

I feel like it is a winged lighy

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Light*

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Which are said to be fractions of the prince's light

graceful osprey
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I wonder how spirits die

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Do you think they age?

distant turtle
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Well if you've heard about the prince, the king is the corrupt version, i think. So essentially what happened is the Prince split himself into these children of light which give us, the player, the vessel, power to restore Eden.

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This isn't canon but I heard it being spoken about here a longgg time ago

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It makes a lot of sense

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It makes sense, except that I would argue that the King made no willing sacrifice, but was rather destroyed against his will

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No no, they are said to be the same but the king is corrupt, i believe the prince made that choice before becoming corrupt

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Nowadays I just think of it as a game mechanic sqwarlockDed

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They look similar to memory fragments though

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And once you have already collected them, they go grey, like a spirit

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They could be spirits who were destroyed in the blast of eden!!!

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They are called spirit gates, yes

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how do you think the spirits flied in the flying race pEyes

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wat

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These are interesting ideas. My own humble idea based partly on yours and partly on the Tom Zhao timeline is that the winged light kids we collect originate from the Prince, but we are something else, originated from a decision made in Orbit, not in the Sky kingdom

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Though I belive that some spirits have fragments instead of memory scenes because they were animals (manta whisperer)

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i dont see any evidence of boats

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Idk if boats can fit through the speed gates

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so the spirits cant fly with clouds and winds?

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They kind of fly in orbit but that is probably the only exception

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or can they?

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Im not sure

graceful osprey
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orbit has some beam which helps

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The manta whisperer pHypeKid

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Jkjk

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the beam blasts you up

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