lore-discussion-spoilers

[supple sluice]

It's an explanation to the TST

[bitter shale]

What is TST

[cold steppe]

hence the "or something similar" 😉

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Which I think makes it part of the TST

[teal orbit]

Sure

Ok imma rlly go

[hushed steeple]

What's the tst about? And what observations started it

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Oh

Okay

[teal orbit]

God its hard to walk away from this place

Lmao

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Okay! Let's begin....

SO

[hushed steeple]

O o p

[agile galleon]

I can help if you're unable to exercise doing things in moderation. The behavior is really not healthy.

[supple sluice]

In wasteland there are two shield groups... One with a sun symbol, one with a diamond symbol. These are often interpreted as two different sides in a war.

Some interesting notes: The two shield types appear in Eden

Wasteland Elder apparently uses both

And that's all we know about the Two Shields Theory!

[grim wedge]

I can't believe I haven't noticed that

[terse siren]

interestinggg

[bitter shale]

So doe sthat mean GW elder is two faced?

[supple sluice]

There are many interpretations and interpretations of those interpretations.

Most claim it's the two sides of a war, a part of me thinks it's for different levels of soldiers in the same army...

But who knows XD

[hushed steeple]

What's with the "horns"?

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👀 👀 👀 👀

[hushed steeple]

Oof I'm sorry for going off-topic

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And why is the cosmetic shrine always the special one

[cold steppe]

no such thing as off-topic!

[hushed steeple]

E x a c t l y

[supple sluice]

That's another interesting one

[bitter shale]

Nah fam you arent'

[cold steppe]

all questions are welcomed here

[supple sluice]

Though

[silver forge]

horns.... It's funny how you walk by that so many times and fail to consider it

[supple sluice]

xD

[cold steppe]

we go nyoom with interest

[orchid jackal]

i haven't put much thought into lore before, but this is really interesting all these interpretations add so much depth to the game, i'm glad i decided to venture into this channel

[terse siren]

i noticed that before and wondered but always forgot once i walked away from it wheeze

[hushed steeple]

As I included here

[cold steppe]

it becomes so integral to the game and our lives that we just... never ask about it

[supple sluice]

That's the sun one!

[bitter shale]

Moff

[terse siren]

maybe because the back items serve another purpose other than just for looks?

[silver forge]

glad to see new people wandering and visiting all channels!

[cold steppe]

until someone brings it up and then we all go "woowwww! I never thought about it!!!!"
that's the beauty of this channel

[grim wedge]

I am too. This channel can be really wholesome, especially when everyone's sharing and building on each other's ideas

[bitter shale]

Me just sticking around since i need stuff for my au

[supple sluice]

Heh... Some people belive that the two shields depicted a debate on the usage of diamonds, which many old loretwisters (new term i made up for the lore group before the gates were opened) believe were made using animal cruelty

Sun being against, diamond being for

[cold steppe]

oh yeah, the ground up mantas and butterflies

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Yeeep

[terse siren]

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And the manipulation of birds

[hushed steeple]

But the thing is, I never saw it as a sun

[cold steppe]

oooo

what do you think it is?

[supple sluice]

A star?

Which the sun is indeed a star XD

Jkjk

[bitter shale]

Sun is a star tho-

[orchid jackal]

does anyone have any theories about deep calling and butterflies? i've thought of it as you giving light/energy to butterflies and them reciprocating by lifting you, but i'm curious to see what other people think

[hushed steeple]

The "sun" looked more reminiscent to these

Plus the uncollected WL

[supple sluice]

So just... Sparks of light?

[terse siren]

maybe it's like calling for help? that's how i've always looked at it

[cold steppe]

I always though deep calls were like you communing with animals

we communicate with the hjonk

[supple sluice]

Though the flare is also coming from the sun I think

[bleak ruin]

what are those light pieces we collect during races?

[bitter shale]

'Oi mate lift me'
'Aye sure mate'

[orchid jackal]

asking for aid from butterflies that's a really nice way to put it

[supple sluice]

Yeah uh

[grim wedge]

Oh- sorry guys I'm almost an hour past the time I was supposed to be asleep It was nice to read your theories! Goodnight!

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Some people belive butterflies are attracted to calls because they were trained to do so

[cold steppe]

night night, wolf!

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.... For easu snatching

[orchid jackal]

aww see you wolf! have a nice night

[bitter shale]

Its kinda sus that the only light creature we can actually interact with is the butters

[supple sluice]

And then shipping off to.... The forest

Yeahh

[cold steppe]

that... actually makes sense
in a macabre sort of way

[supple sluice]

Though uh

That one manta liked us enough to follow around

[cold steppe]

we can kind of interact with mantas with the manta call

[pseudo heart]

Amd jellyfishes too....

[bitter shale]

We can ask manta to land in our hand us, they can only kidnap us ;-;

[supple sluice]

Yeeep

[pseudo heart]

Uhhh when u do a call, they call back

[bitter shale]

And get krilled instead

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YEP

[hushed steeple]

About butterflies, all I can say is I've only seen butterflies in areas where there are Vases (as if wild ones never existed)

Kinda like they weren't wild, then captured, then stored in the jars.
But rather like they were created and stored. They only went free after the fall.

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MAN SKY GETS DARK

[cold steppe]

the light creatures are responding to us even if they got hurt

"hello friend!"

[orchid jackal]

ahhh seeing that every time i go into wasteland makes me sad every time

[supple sluice]

AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOT TO THE "THE PRINCE WAS MISUSED" THEORIES

[terse siren]

oo speaking of mantas, i think it interesting how the devs decided to add that purple sparkle trail connecting you to the mantas you can ride

[bitter shale]

Except whales. Those lads just goes s m a s h

[cold steppe]

there's a theory that the little manta in Vault is the one that was killed in Wasteland

[terse siren]

;0;0;0;

[supple sluice]

Yeah

[shadow star]

Heyyyyyy i just saw sky kids are around 120cm irl
Is there a google doc or somekinda video like clean up these things?

[cold steppe]

whales answer to no man

[terse siren]

that's so cute

[bitter shale]

Smaller mantas does have that too

[supple sluice]

Whales are reveled

Rebels*

Say... Hm.

[cold steppe]

whales don't charge you either

[hushed steeple]

Don't forget "The king turned on the diamond"

[cold steppe]

if you get really close to the one in Forest or Wasteland, it does nothing

just bonks you a bit

same with Eden

[terse siren]

👀

[supple sluice]

Or "King is Insane"

[bitter shale]

Yall purple is result of mixing red and blue right?

[orchid jackal]

:00000 that's such a great theory reincarnated into a spirit manta that makes me feel so much better about poor wasteland manta

[cold steppe]

that one goes "nah fam, I'm just vibing here on my own"

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Or "MEMORY WHISPERER IS DEAD"

[hushed steeple]

Y e

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OKAY UH

[bitter shale]

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MEMORY WHISPERER IS WHACK

[cold steppe]

oh and the "we see the play dead spirit actually die"

[supple sluice]

Why is he the only call guy with a cape!?

(except seasonal ones idk about them)

[cold steppe]

though that one might be less of a theory and more of a fact

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WHY DOES HE HAVE THE CAPE COLOR OF US DYING

[bitter shale]

Wait memory whisperer have a cape?

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IS HE DEAD??

[orchid jackal]

i saw a theory that krill were poisoned whales 👁️

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Oh wait

[hushed steeple]

P f t

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Everyone is

WHOOPS

[hushed steeple]

Bleached I believe

[cold steppe]

they're spirits

they're probably dead

maybe

very high chance

[bitter shale]

They already dead fam

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OKAY UT

[bitter shale]

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Why does he have the death cape!?

Is he like

.... Uh....

[bitter shale]

Double dead?

[supple sluice]

Suffering from terminal illness Drama style??

[bitter shale]

Twice krilled?

Who is Karman-

Shksgsks

[hushed steeple]

Continue-

[supple sluice]

I tried to say k-drama

It didn't work

[cold steppe]

ah, autocorrect

[supple sluice]

I don't watch Korean drama anyway

XD

[cold steppe]

the bane of lore

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Hmmm

[bitter shale]

Tbh idk lol, i just find it interestimg since two team in valley are red and blue

[supple sluice]

Yeah

Hehe

..... Though uh

[cold steppe]

yeah, there seems to be a sort of red and blue thing going on in Valley

pretty neat

[supple sluice]

The lack of Blue in Valley shows a concerning bias

Xd

[cold steppe]

though there's no blue cape available for purchase in Valley

good old sibling rivalry

one sibling handles the merch and the other gets nothing

[supple sluice]

Lol the valley leaders were like "INTRODUCING THE WONDERFUL POWERFUL RED TEAM!!"

"oh and the other team"

[cold steppe]

the dora hair spirit is the one in Dreams (or at least something similar)

no kakashi anywhere to be seen

[bitter shale]

Imo i think asparagus hair is the red team

[icy spruce]

Who do you think like which red and blue is uh which twin?

[terse siren]

asparagus hfdshja

[bitter shale]

Idk man they seems to be more dominating-

[supple sluice]

👀

Good question

[bitter shale]

Asparagus and mushroom

[supple sluice]

Btw

Speaking of Valley

[cold steppe]

I have heard many interpretations of their hair, and have never heard asparagus

[silver forge]

I never noticed that there aren't many blue things in valley either This has been very eye opening

[cold steppe]

I am stealing it

[supple sluice]

Did u know valley and wasteland were apparently one?

[bitter shale]

Yep

[supple sluice]

Idk if it's completely Canon but it was a thing that was mentioned

[cold steppe]

the Valley citadel was also more or less the capitol

in concept art

not sure if it's still canon

[bitter shale]

Imo valley citadel is more like astronomical tower

[cold steppe]

an orrery

[orchid jackal]

this might have been discussed a lot already, but i really like the theory that the realms are one location over different time periods especially the matching structure in forest temple and wasteland solo krill spot. stuff starts to grow in isle and become prairie, and prairie also has some structures like ladders and stuff. from there things keep growing to forest and you see things advance further with the opening doors and moving parts in the temple. valley is an ice age + entire villages/cities. wasteland is a war + environmental ruin, and then vault is perhaps way way way in the future with the archives being a library with information about other realms perhaps? just something rattling in my brain, i hope this isn't too much of a text wall

[bitter shale]

Iirc soemone said citadel have a twin tower

[shadow star]

Heyyyyyy i just saw sky kids are around 120cm irl
Is there a google doc or somekinda video like clean up these things?

[bitter shale]

Shortie

[cold steppe]

oh, there's a chart somewhere

let me find it

Here
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

approximately

[terse siren]

oOOoo yeah i always thought it super interesting how the solo krill part looks like forest temple 👀

[cold steppe]

just search in:lore-discussion-spoilers bafta

there's one theory that Forest and Wasteland were both diamond producing areas

which could explain the similarities in structure

[shadow star]

Thank you!

[orchid jackal]

yeyeye with the same golden thingy and tiered structure ~~that to me looks like wedding cake but thats unrelated ~~

[bitter shale]

Forest is where diamond got invented while wasteland is where diamond got mass produced

[terse siren]

it also looked as if that big golden thing on the ceiling of forest temple fell down 👁️

[cold steppe]

Jayyyy where's your updated diamond press theory

I only have the old one

[bitter shale]

Who is jay

[cold steppe]

someone who used to be in here a lot

Old theory of Jay's
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[orchid jackal]

another reason i like this is because on your first playthrough its like time is progressing as you grow as a sky kid and gain experience + winged light

[cold steppe]

ties into the "light creatures were used to produce diamonds"

[bitter shale]

Manta squisher

Manta juicer

[cold steppe]

that's... an apt description

[bitter shale]

Sorry-

[cold steppe]

it's not wrong, I just don't like it

[bitter shale]

Noted

I mean

[cold steppe]

an uncomfortable potential truth, if you will

[bitter shale]

Manta extractor is more fitting imo

Imagine mantas as wet sponges

Or like an orange

[bleak ruin]

I noticed in the vault, the diamond thing the vault elder has seems to be one side dark one side light?

[cold steppe]

yeah, the elevator is somewhat similar

[bleak ruin]

or is it jist a shadow

[supple sluice]

Yeah

[bleak ruin]

i cant tell

[supple sluice]

Some ppl think diamonds are made of part light part dark

[bitter shale]

Half light half dark

Balanced

[supple sluice]

And it fed my idea that the Eden diamond became destructive when they failed to keep the ratio perfect

:3

[orchid jackal]

i don know if this common knowledge but i really really like how the realm portal/doors are shaped like their elders - blew my mind when i first realized

[bleak ruin]

the difference between stones u give light to and the ones that turn blue to hover the boats and stuff?

[supple sluice]

They're both diamonds i think

[bleak ruin]

the shape of the portal foors has been on my mind all week cuz its every wheree

I wonder if there is a difference

between the ones you light and the ones that turn blue

[bitter shale]

All i can say is that every portals are in candle shape

[terse siren]

i also find this room interesting with the forest temple idea

[bleak ruin]

or if there is some kind of underground system or something connecting it all

[supple sluice]

Yeah...

[bitter shale]

Imo thats where mantas got stored

[bleak ruin]

me toooo

[supple sluice]

Yanno another thing

What else happened in the wasteland temple?

[orchid jackal]

going to hop onto sky and take a look at forest temple and compare 👁️

[supple sluice]

There's so many possible doors....

[bleak ruin]

IGUANA TAKE MEEE WITH YOUU

[supple sluice]

Was it a barracks? Storage for weapons? A factory? A holy temple!?

[cold steppe]

I was hoping that Enchantment would show the doors

[bleak ruin]

can ee have a group lore hunt?

[cold steppe]

Ark is super cool though

[bleak ruin]

we*

lets all goooo

[cold steppe]

of course

[bleak ruin]

omg omg

[supple sluice]

XD

[bleak ruin]

omg omg o.g

[cold steppe]

I've actually done that a few times with people before

[supple sluice]

You know what would be cool

[terse siren]

i'd come but i actually have to sleep now 😔 bye everybody :D

[bitter shale]

Im in onlin3 class rn lol, sorry i cant join-

[cold steppe]

I personally can't do one right now, but I am open in the future

[bleak ruin]

awww sweet dreams stuffy<3

[supple sluice]

A season about how the industry in sky worked

Idk it's bland

[bleak ruin]

yesssss

[cold steppe]

just shoot me a DM with a QR any time

[supple sluice]

But I'd love to actually learn about that

[bleak ruin]

wrenn yess letss

[supple sluice]

O

CAN i join!?

:D

[cold steppe]

EVERYONE CAN JOIN

[supple sluice]

I wanna hunt lore

YAY

[cold steppe]

up to 8

[bleak ruin]

I WANNA LORE HUNT

[orchid jackal]

aww see you moon! good night

[supple sluice]

Oke brb

[cold steppe]

lore hunt lore hunt

[bleak ruin]

☁️💫☁️

LORE HUNT LORE HUNT

[supple sluice]

HUNT LORE HUNT LORE

[cold steppe]

good night, moon!

[bleak ruin]

[supple sluice]

Oh god

Homework gtg bye

[cold steppe]

I will be back tomorrow as I also should be sleeping

[bleak ruin]

Sleeeep tight yall💕💕💕

[cold steppe]

night everyone! thanks for all the theory sharing and building! so much fun!

lore hunt soon 👀

[bleak ruin]

💖☁️💖☁️💖☁️💖☁️💖

YESSSSSSSSSHHHH

add mee so we can exchanghe friend code thinggs

[orchid jackal]

i'm also going to go sleep now this channel is so interesting and all of y'all are so lovely i'll be back tomorrow, see you guys

[bleak ruin]

💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

later love💕

[plain fern]

Oh is anyone doing lore hunt?;;-;; ive only recently started getting into the lore but id love to join

[hushed steeple]

Fun fact: Eden is also a girls name meaning "delight"

WhatifedenisMegan'srealname-

[bleak ruin]

i thought i was interesting too that eden in the bible is where the fall of man happens 👀

[hushed steeple]

Mhm

[bleak ruin]

LMAOOO

whatifedenismegans real name

yukiiii

[hushed steeple]

Btw I'm making a brain-dead theory/timeline/interpretation based on what I've learned so far
(It's gonna have so many flaws)

So uh- stay tuned?

[bleak ruin]

we just started talking about doing lore hunts lets dooooo it

oooooooo sup i cnt wait to heear

[hushed steeple]

How do you lore hunt?

[bleak ruin]

we travel thru sky together exploring hunting for lore clues

[plain fern]

I was asking yesterday in looking for group but was left hanging:D lets do it!!;;-;;

[bleak ruin]

i just made that up BUT it sounds good

[hushed steeple]

O h

W e l l t h e n

[bleak ruin]

omg yuki lets do it how do we add each otherrr

[plain fern]

Yes!!

[hushed steeple]

So should we dm each other friend requests?

[bleak ruin]

YESSSSS

[plain fern]

Ill send yoy my qr. code

[bleak ruin]

YESS

YESS

[hushed steeple]

Aight then

[plain fern]

Do I name you Banish?:D

[bleak ruin]

ima go get cooodes

hehe yesss OR skykage... of the hidden sky village...

lmaoooo

[plain fern]

Is that

Is that a naruto reference

[bleak ruin]

ofc

[plain fern]

If it is - i dig it

[bleak ruin]

it isssss haha

ima get codes

[plain fern]

I just sent mine ^^

[bleak ruin]

Sup cooome

[true grove]

Why yall talk so much when i'm sneeping T^T

[hushed steeple]

Guys remember how there's a "Dismayed hunter"? What was she hunting again?

[gilded spoke]

if mantas were correct, she was hunting them for forest mama who was crushing for diamond tech

[teal orbit]

Hi im back

[supple sluice]

Hi want a metaphor for the dark stuff and also a theory

[teal orbit]

Hmmm how would you explain the natural transition from one realm to another?

Oh wait forgot to click reply

[teal orbit]

This

[supple sluice]

The dark plants are found in every realm, except Vault. Even then they're buried in the souls of every spirit we encounter.

To me, Darkenes is symbolic of hate and like all the yuckiness.

So when the Eden diamond exploded because of (in my version uneven balance of light and dark), darkness looms around all the kingdoms. This leads to hatred that builds up over time in the ancestors, leaving dark plants in their soul...

And that's how Sky fell.

[teal orbit]

Cool

Fits in with the tst ver 2.0 as well

[supple sluice]

Yeee

[teal orbit]

Could u plz explain the uneven balance?

[supple sluice]

Uh, some people believe diamonds are made of 50 percent light and 50 percent dark.

[teal orbit]

Are u saying that the eden diamond is connected to the world's equilibrium and when the balance broke it got unstable and boom?

[supple sluice]

So when I say the diamond was made with an imbalance they didn't get that balance of light and dark.

[teal orbit]

Huh

[supple sluice]

Or that in general it was made unevenly

And when someone tried to use it it blew up

[teal orbit]

Ohhhhhh a construction defect

[supple sluice]

Yeah

[teal orbit]

But the eden elder safely activates the crystal and the ascension beam works well for thousands of years

[supple sluice]

Hmmm

So maybe like

Because it's using an unreliable source...

Or it loses power over time it becomes uneven eventually?

[teal orbit]

Why break smack in the middle of the gw war of alk times?
Or gw training session in your case

Becoming unatable gradually seems canonical

[supple sluice]

Because the diamond doesn't run on a schedule

Ahahaha

[teal orbit]

*unstable

[supple sluice]

Many natural disasters or general catastrophes happen suddenly

And they're deadliest when they're unexpected

[teal orbit]

I see

[supple sluice]

So the diamond broke right in the middle of an average day and from that point on the world fell

[teal orbit]

Hahaha

Well i wouldnt call it an average day

Either there was a huge war or they had a training session that went south real quick

[supple sluice]

Yeahhh

[teal orbit]

But i get your point

[supple sluice]

And Tobe fair

The king was focused on war

[teal orbit]

Lets say eden elder

[supple sluice]

So... That's even more tragic come to think of it

Oh right

[teal orbit]

To be precise

Cuz king and prince are ambiguous

But we know it was the eden elder

Lighty's still stuckin orbit at the time

[supple sluice]

Like... You're in the middle of battle when all of a sudden a loud boom shocks the land, and you can literally see the grand castle of Eden collapse...

[teal orbit]

Oh god thats scary

[supple sluice]

.... Damn that's sad.

Imagine it from isle or Prairie, even...

[teal orbit]

They couldnt see it

[supple sluice]

Oh

.... They might hear a little boom maybe

[queen locust]

Prairie could, from a distance

Not Isle though

[supple sluice]

And they'd possibly only hear from rumors

Which i think is even worse

[teal orbit]

It would be more like u were doing the dishes and u feel al woozy and u start coughing up blood and u die...
At least of u r in isle, prairie, forest or valley

[queen locust]

now that's the fastest case of radiation sickness I've seen

[supple sluice]

Oh

Damn

[teal orbit]

If u were staring at eden at the time of the boom, ig u could see it yes

[teal orbit]

Its sky after all
And a blast that affects not a few cities but a whole kingdom

[supple sluice]

Those poor scholars... Probably became deaf from the boom

[teal orbit]

Before dying

[supple sluice]

Yep

[teal orbit]

From the poisonous glasses

[supple sluice]

Except the elder somehow

[teal orbit]

I mean gases

[supple sluice]

Oh god right

[teal orbit]

Hahahahaha

[supple sluice]

Vault has a door to eden

[teal orbit]

But vault could have been like dresden
Its prolly the most likely scenario
Faster than the gas by any chance

Yes it prolly was dresden that killed all the vault ppl

Not the radiation and gas

[supple sluice]

Ah

.... Hm

[queen locust]

darn if we're comparing the Eden boom to an actual nuclear explosion then i'm inclined to believe that we're either immune to those aftereffects because we're little golem children

Or it really just has been that long

[teal orbit]

Now u ask me what i mean by dresden

[queen locust]

Maybe a mix of both

[supple sluice]

To me the cruelest part is that like

[teal orbit]

Its rlly been that long

[supple sluice]

The people further from Eden died slower

[teal orbit]

Prolly

Yes

[supple sluice]

So.... Yeah

[teal orbit]

Seriously no one's gonna ask me whay happened at dresden?

Or... do you already know

[queen locust]

idk what that is

[supple sluice]

Tell me what happened at dresden

[teal orbit]

They found like green goo when they opened the shelters

React when u read cuz imma delete this in a while ok?

[queen locust]

question- why green specifically-

[teal orbit]

Idk

[queen locust]

I can see they've melted but wouldn't it be like... a disembodied mess of colors

[teal orbit]

Lets... not go into this...

@supple sluice u dont yet?

[supple sluice]

Oh

... Dang

[icy spruce]

E

[supple sluice]

That's....

[icy spruce]

What's happening

[supple sluice]

I... See the comparison now

We're talking about the eden diamond exploding

And how depressing and violent that is

[teal orbit]

So basically vault is a bunker and the eden explosion washuge
And vault acted like a huge pot

[queen locust]

and now I just realized those disembodied mess of colors and flesh are the Vault scholars in your take

[hushed steeple]

(Just a thought) If our favourite friends are placed in our own personal constellation

Could that mean the spirits are actually friends with the respective elder of their realm? (Or at least smthn similar)

[hushed steeple]

O m l -

[teal orbit]

Not likely i think

[queen locust]

i wanna think this- that they had some kind of special relationship with the Elder in question

[hushed steeple]

Hmm

But why tho?

[teal orbit]

The elder friend thing

[hushed steeple]

I just wanna see your take

[teal orbit]

Dresedn,completely likely

[hushed steeple]

?

[queen locust]

Those constellations are from as far back as Prophecy as well though so it'd be kind of weird that those specific spirits would last for so long

[teal orbit]

In my head canon the spirits rebelled after eden boom

Oop i gtg

[hushed steeple]

Aight

[queen locust]

Aight cya Pyre

[hushed steeple]

Bye Pyre

[quiet crystal]

Bye Pyre cya

[queen locust]

anywho- the spirits having a special role in relation to the Elders is an interesting idea tho-

[quiet crystal]

Also I didn’t even talk in this channel today but I still said good bye

[queen locust]

Isle especially

[hushed steeple]

Btw who here has a pic of Megan?

[hushed steeple]

Hmm

But why those spirit memories tho-

That's been bugging me alot

[queen locust]

Design-wise, there's a special reason

[hushed steeple]

A h

[queen locust]

Each Elder is designed how a person would perceive them at that stage of life

Isle Elder is a tall, wise grandpa- like how toddlers view adults

Prairie Elder is chubby and friendly- ideally, this is how a child would view an adult

The emotes are a reflection of this

[cold steppe]

That’s a pretty neat idea

[queen locust]

Prairie is fun and cheerful- so they get fun and cheerful emotes

Forest is moody and somewhat dark- so they get moody emotes

[supple sluice]

Forest has a n g y m a n

[queen locust]

Valley has the show-offy emotes for obvious reasons, and in Wasteland you're going through a mid-life crisis so every emote there is guarded and cautious

[hushed steeple]

We do be livin for the
A n g s t

[cold steppe]

The realms are also a reflection of the stages of life

[queen locust]

Vault is for oldies, so they're more serene

[hushed steeple]

Mhm

[queen locust]

Oh yep

[cold steppe]

Isle is birth, prairie childhood, and vault old age

[supple sluice]

And Eden elder is representative of...

Idk death

[cold steppe]

Then eden is STORM

More like death and rebirth

[hushed steeple]

Floating and telekinesis and all

[queen locust]

THE REALMS AND SYMBOLISM
Isle- Dawn, Birth, Primitive Civilization
Prairie- Daytime, Childhood, Iron Age/Medieval Age
Forest- Rain, Adolesence, Industrial Revolution
Valley- Sunset, Young Adulthood, Information Age(?)
Wasteland- Dusk, Mid-life Crisis, Rampant Consumerism/Downfall of Civilization
Vault- Night, Old Age, Remnants of Civilization
Eden- Storm, Death, Ruins

[cold steppe]

It’s pretty neat how the portals are arranged in a sort of circle to physically show the cycle of life, death, abs rebirth

[queen locust]

Here's the oversimplified list of symbolisms that the realms have through development

[cold steppe]

Oh neat, I didn’t see the version with the stages of history in them. Cool theory

[queen locust]

isle is weird but in Isle you're in toddler stage so pointing, ushering, and rejecting are some pretty basic actions for a toddler

[cold steppe]

I knew the stages of life and times of day were canon

[queen locust]

Kind of? They're more of overarching themes that were used for the levels

So it's less of canon and more just themes

[cold steppe]

Yeah, I meant like officially, these were the themes for the realms

Not like fan ideas

[hushed steeple]

Upwards then crashing back down...

Quite the cycle I must say

[cold steppe]

It’s a fun ascent and then you get dumped back at home

[hushed steeple]

Mhm

[queen locust]

we like assigning the realms some sevens in this chat lmao

[hushed steeple]

Y e p

[cold steppe]

Yesss

[queen locust]

Speaking of realms and sevens once I likened them to the seven deadly sins

[cold steppe]

I think I remember that

[queen locust]

isle... did not make sense-

i'll admit that now akjskajjsk

[cold steppe]

There’s a lot of great theories

[hushed steeple]

I think I now know why the isle elder isn't on the eden gate

Jkjk

[queen locust]

is it Isle Elder talk time :333333

[cold steppe]

It’s always isle elder talk time

[hushed steeple]

Why ofc it is good sir/ma'am

Wait

Are you a sir or ma'am-

[queen locust]

Just call me a they I guess :/

[hushed steeple]

Si'am it is

[rose gorge]

m’theydy

[cold steppe]

Excellent

[queen locust]

In that Isle being representative of Envy thing, I mentioned that 'Envy tears a man away from his neightbor'

[cold steppe]

now beard time

[hushed steeple]

Wait really?-

C o o l

[queen locust]

Actually it had to build upon a lot of pre-existing theories before I arrived to that conclusion-

Stuff like the fallen child being the Prince and him becoming the Eden Elder

It traces back to Prophecy, and the envy may or may not be misinterpreted in-universe

[hushed steeple]

Hmm

[cold steppe]

Interesting

[queen locust]

Uh- would ya'll like the full paragraph?

[cold steppe]

The prophecy murals revealed a lot yet also gave more questions

Of course

Feed us

[hushed steeple]

Btw is there a lore reason why, when you reached the end of a spirit memory, they end up like the eden statues until you light then again?

[cold steppe]

There’s definitely theories

[hushed steeple]

Like, instead of designing the game in a way you get the cutscene without that statue needing to be lit?

[cold steppe]

Something something you need to light them up to free them

[queen locust]

DALETH THE ISLE ELDER AND THE SIN OF ENVY
The Isle Elder is left with the sin of Envy through a process of elimination, though it is likely that while they might have represented such once, it is also likely that the Isle Elder instead has become someone who rose above their sin- entirely dependent on how events may have played out for the Kingdom and what exactly his role was in its rise and fall.
Envy may be described as the ‘desire to wish misfortune on others/ deprive others of their fortunes’- in one case, maybe the fortunes of one Eden Elder. Isle of Dawn is the birthplace of the Prophecy- and, consequently, the person who will reign superior over the Kingdom of Sky through conquering the Trials of the Elements. Assuming that the conqueror of those Trials was the Eden Elder themselves (as either the Prince or the King- or both of them, it depends), it is possible that the Isle Elder may have defected from that rule- from a premonition or otherwise simple malicious envy, it is uncertain. Envy tears a man away from his neighbor- and it is possible that this is the reason why the Isle Elder is not depicted on the gate to Eden.

oh god that's a heck of a paragraph

[cold steppe]

Oh nice

[quiet crystal]

Woah that’s a bit long for a paragraph hehe

[cold steppe]

Actually a pretty solid reasoning there

[queen locust]

Sorry sorry- it was written in Calibri in the doc-

[cold steppe]

It happens

[quiet crystal]

Mhm it’s fine for me

[cold steppe]

Perhaps remaining in the kingdom of Sky as an elder and being blocked from returning to orbit is a sort of purgatory for the elders

If that makes sense

[hushed steeple]

Btw @queen locust

[queen locust]

Ah- ye

[cold steppe]

Like they each represent a sin and are atoning/being punished for it before they are freed to return to orbit

[hushed steeple]

I may need your help when I finish (for spotting plotholes and contradictions and such)

[queen locust]

I might not be able to help much because of how fuzzy the timeline is, but I'll be happy to assist I guess

[hushed steeple]

Or heck I need everyone's help

[hushed steeple]

Arigatogozaimasu

[cold steppe]

Post it here as you go and we can all help out

If you want

[queen locust]

somehow the image of like... a branched timeline popped into my head just because of how divisive we are about certain events

[cold steppe]

Technically anything is possible

[queen locust]

Like when the Eden diamond exploded in relation to the war in Wasteland for example

[hushed steeple]

Hmm should Sky be taken as an actual world, or symbolic?

[queen locust]

The whole Archives break-in thing

[cold steppe]

What do you mean by symbolic?

[hushed steeple]

Well-

Like,

The story is metaphorical and stuff

And so are the locations and creatures

[cold steppe]

Ah, I take it as an actual world

[hushed steeple]

Aight

[cold steppe]

But that’s just my personal interpretation

[queen locust]

For me it's less of a giant finished story and more of a Kingdom of little stories that came together

[cold steppe]

I guess I take it as a combination

[queen locust]

It certainly feels like a world though

Especially with Dreams

In Dreams we see these people interacting- a whole community of people just helping this one girl achieve her dream

[hushed steeple]

Aight Imma go continue that timeline

[cold steppe]

Like you the player are making your way through an actual world with a rich history that is overlaid and shown via spirit memories and bits and pieces of lore strewn around with murals, ruins, etc.

[hushed steeple]

Keep loring ya'll ❤️

[cold steppe]

You’re seeing like a VR version of Sky’s history

[queen locust]

Awe- good luck on the timeline then

[cold steppe]

But physically in current Sky

[queen locust]

Call us if ya need help

[cold steppe]

Good luck sup!

[quiet crystal]

Good luck

[hushed steeple]

Thank ya'll so much

Sknsnsosknsjs

[queen locust]

Speaking of the war and the exploding diamond though, what are your takes on how and when it happened?

[cold steppe]

In short

[teal orbit]

Hello folks

I have returned

DRESDEN!!!!!!!

[cold steppe]

Elders rebelled against megabird, went down to Sky, started producing power diamonds including the Eden diamond, a faction of sun/megabird supporters rebelled and caused the war, diamond faction fought back, Eden diamond became increasingly less stable then eventually exploded and ended the conflict via death

There’s a lot more detail and nuance in there from all the different theories I borrow my headcanon from, but that’s the basic gist of it

[teal orbit]

oh hey thats good

But rebellion against the megabird?
That new

Cool

[queen locust]

That implies the spirits knew of Megabird's existence- and that Megabird was active

[teal orbit]

So in this case, would the megabird be the darkness or would the rebellion be the darkness?

[queen locust]

Depending on how you interpret Lightseekers and the Ark murals, that might actually be the case

[cold steppe]

Personally I think the rebellion is the darkness

[teal orbit]

Yes

Oh ok

[cold steppe]

But I’m in the minority on that one

[teal orbit]

U sure?

[cold steppe]

There was a somewhat lively discourse about it a few months ago

[teal orbit]

As a believer of karen i think megan is good

[cold steppe]

And most people were of the opinion at that time that megabird was evil

[queen locust]

Regarding darkness as part of the war in my opinion it's an outside force

[teal orbit]

Huh...

An outside force?

[cold steppe]

It was near the beginning of the whole “megabird is Megan” thing

[queen locust]

There wasn't any darkness from either side, and the krill being there is more of a last-minute thing brought on by the destruction of Eden

at least in my opinion that's how darkness was in the war

[teal orbit]

Plz elaborate

[queen locust]

asalkaskajk lmao depending on who you ask Megabird is still evil

also is it me Pyre-

[cold steppe]

Lol I completely left darkness out of my summary

Knew there was something I was forgetting

[teal orbit]

Wow, thinking back, in these few weeks, we've uncovered several huge mysteries in lore!!!
We've figured out the location of eden
We've also figyred out where in the timline of sky the wastekand war happened
Plus we cleared away all those questions abt the prince and the king with the introduction of lighty and the eden elder
Im proud of us yall

[teal orbit]

Ik

[queen locust]

technically without dev confirmation none of those are absolute achievements

[cold steppe]

just wait until we get new lore that rips the theories up

[teal orbit]

But its like 98% likely

[cold steppe]

None of it is official. Just very well made fan theories

[teal orbit]

I think thats a win

[cold steppe]

Devs are likely not to confirm it here

[queen locust]

Anyway- if it's elaboration on the darkness in the war that you want to hear from me, I think that darkness had no hand in it

[teal orbit]

Yes

[cold steppe]

If they confirm it at all, it will be in game

[teal orbit]

Yes

[queen locust]

The war in particular has more to do with environmental subtext than the Ascension beam- light creatures being used for diamonds and all that

You know how I keep expressing my doubts that krill could be tamed

[teal orbit]

Currently, no other possible explanations exist tho, so in my book, its good as canon... in some aspects
I wont force this on anyonecelse tho

[queen locust]

It plays a part here in that I don't think either side of the war was representing light or dark- it's more just a clash of ideals than anything

[teal orbit]

Yes

Exactly

[cold steppe]

As long as you don’t claim it as canon, it’s fine

[queen locust]

actually now that Dismayed Hunter was mentioned earlier I kind of have some backing

[cold steppe]

There’s a lot of excellent theories floating around as the lore is so flexible for interpretation

[queen locust]

You know that whale... whurtle skeleton in Forest

[teal orbit]

I would never @cold steppe

[queen locust]

That might have been an inciting incident for the war- not causing it, but a source of unrest

[cold steppe]

double ping

[teal orbit]

There are no whurtles in forest according to canon?

[queen locust]

Whale then- I wasn't sure what it was

But whatever it is it crashed into someone's building

[teal orbit]

Whurtles only exist in the graveyard

And as fissils

*fossils

Hmmm bird kill

[cold steppe]

The coelacanth looking whale

[teal orbit]

But with a whale

[cold steppe]

Call?

[queen locust]

Pretty much- but no one would bat an eye at a bird getting shot down

A whole whale however

[cold steppe]

Oh I see

[teal orbit]

Bird window death but with a whale hahaha
Thats what u r saying viridi right?

[cold steppe]

Ooof lol

Far out thought

[teal orbit]

It would look epic

[cold steppe]

They were shot down to grind up for power diamonds

[queen locust]

That thing could have started some discourse on the whole power diamond thing

[cold steppe]

No evidence
Just fun

[teal orbit]

Whales are lught creatures?

I thought tjose were neutral

They dont recharge u remember?

[queen locust]

Me too tbh but for the purposes of this theory we're going with light

[teal orbit]

Sure

[cold steppe]

They’re most likely neutral but the hubris of the elders/spirits caused them to look further

I can’t spell

[queen locust]

Plus Ascension

which is just- a weird case of a whale

[teal orbit]

Thats just collision damage i think

Proximity flight wont take out your flight energy

Just collisions

[queen locust]

I'll have to visit Eden again to see that thing

[cold steppe]

Either that or the waste from the power diamond plants caused corruption that attracted darkness and dark creatures that preyed on the light creatures/scared them away, causing a shortage of light creatures and a desperation

[teal orbit]

So its not the work of dust

[queen locust]

or just go near enough to the one in Wasteland

Idk smthn might have changed, or I might have missed something

[teal orbit]

That makes sense, wrenter

But what did the shoot it down with?

[cold steppe]

What do you think the catapults were for

[teal orbit]

Hahahahaha
FLAK

they shot it down with flak

[queen locust]

Arrows I think? crap I need to revisit forest

on that note Imma candlerun while I'm at it

[cold steppe]

Lore hunt lore hunt

[queen locust]

see ya both- have fun loring ya'll

[cold steppe]

See ya!

I said I was going to sleep two hours ago

Night night for real. Hopefully

[teal orbit]

Whale skin is most likely too tough for that...
Falling from thousands of feet wont chip off even a bit of the skid's hp yet the whale decimates it

So mangonels werent used to kill the whale

I doybt arrows could have done it too...

[cold steppe]

I see ping

[teal orbit]

Oop srry

[cold steppe]

Do we know for sure that the whale skin is tough though?

Also I wonder if the corruption in wasltenad, if it was there at the time, could have negatively affected them

Oh wait it’s whurtles

[teal orbit]

We crash into it and we lose tons of flight energy
That only happen with huge amounts of Collison damage

The whales

[cold steppe]

I’m just picturing a giant spirit with a spear/harpoon catapulting themselves off at a whurtle to kill it

[teal orbit]

Boink

Bounces off

I think

[cold steppe]

If it’s whale blubber, it’s doable

If it’s turtle skin, it’s debatable

[teal orbit]

Not blubber

Ohhhhh

[cold steppe]

People used to whale all the time with harpoons

[teal orbit]

Whurtles not whales

Ok i get it now

[cold steppe]

And technically they’re not whales in what we know as whales

Hmmm

[teal orbit]

That makes more sense

Yes

Whales are fish like

[cold steppe]

Aim for the eyes

It ded

[teal orbit]

Whurtles are whale like

[cold steppe]

I think the big difference is determining if it was the elder that killed it, a spirit (or a bunch of spirits), or some sort of collision

Elder might be able to do some damage, but spirits are a lot smaller

I’ll have to do some more digging

[spring cairn]

oh if there was a shortage of light creatures that could explain the underground forest? the gate outside of it implies it isn't secret, but maybe a nature reserve since the gate to it can't be opened from outside

[hushed steeple]

Hmm

[hushed steeple]

Aight I've gotten writer's block now

The Wasteland elder

Was zie a warrior from the beggining?

Or did zie only take on that role when the hypothetical war arose?

[teal orbit]

We... can?

Open it feom the outside

[teal orbit]

THEY were a warrior from the beginning

[icy spruce]

most likely

[teal orbit]

Prophecy fire trial mural

Its way before the war

[icy spruce]

but I would say that GW elder was a warrior at the beginning

[teal orbit]

Yes

[icy spruce]

Though, it's upto you on how you interpret it

[teal orbit]

The proph mural depicts them as having a shield and spear

The wasteland war was right before eden went boom

So yeah

[icy spruce]

perhaps

though if you mean like, before they fell down and stuff

prolly not

[hushed steeple]

Oh right-

Pronouns-

[lethal stump]

i’d imagine such, we see them making weapons with the fire element in the proph murals

[teal orbit]

Yes

[hushed steeple]

What about these? Is there a theory on what they are and what they're for?

[lethal stump]

no, but i know what they were when they had a use

[pale geyser]

...Can I know

[lethal stump]

back in pre-launch (light awaits), they were little « collect the light » quests. you’d meditate in the centre of the circle and a bunch of fragments of light would appear, and you had to collect them all in a certain timespan. when you did, you got a candle !

[compact olive]

It was a quest at the beginning of launch

Yeah what Bricky said

They were annoying as heck. They had a similar timed catch the light puzzle at hidden forest and me and my friends once spent 4 hours trying to do it but we didn’t have enough people

[lethal stump]

you were in pre-launch ? damn

i only have experience with them from the bug in beta a little while ago that turned them on

[compact olive]

I’m an old school player remember a while back I told you that the intro used to say “but darkness blinds...”

[lethal stump]

you told me that ?

[compact olive]

Yeah. A long while back

I was “angry” that it changed because it was what most of my theories were based on

[lethal stump]

i see

[compact olive]

I have another theory that I think needs help or needs clarification

[lethal stump]

go on

[compact olive]

Why does this look more like a “fallen” at Eden now?

[lethal stump]

it always looked like that

[compact olive]

My memory must be playing tricks on me. Okay next question

Why do they have fingers?!

Is my memory playing tricks on me as welll here? I don’t remember anyone but Elders having fingers

[hushed steeple]

Unrelated message:

Ya'll have you ever felt the pain of writing a really complex theory and then you suddenly think of another theory that completely contradicts the first one?

[compact olive]

My theory or should I say my idea is that Fallen stars HAVE bones 🦴. We just can’t see them because they’ve been mummified in darkness like these images I provided

Eaten away to nothing by their “sin” or by prolonged stays on this planet. Or something to that effect

They look almost exactly like a child of light in Eden’s storm location. Crystallized and stone like.... ala a Pompeii type of statue crust

The descendants (us) or the fallen look like what original concepts are called “corrupted” by dark stone

And the fallen stars or ancestors look almost exactly the same. They are of course dripping with what Pyre calls dust, but what I refer to as Dark dragon deterioration

The pots in prairie’s underground storage facilities and their manta shrines also are covered in darkness plant 🌱 spore-lings

There isn’t a single realm untouched by darkness plants. Even Isle of Dawn has them.

[slate saffron]

Does anyone know the deep and dark lore behind (drum roll please).....

THIS P O T !?!??!

[compact olive]

It was the scholars oil pots used to help create the fires 🔥 that power their elevated platforms

[slate saffron]

Yeah but it's orange

All bad thing are orange!

[pale geyser]

strange how the King has a darkstone mask even BEFORE he was corrupted-

[slate saffron]

Darkstone back in the concept art was the basis for almost all of the ancestors technology!

[compact olive]

The king’s mask has a larger diamond on it than the other elders’ headdresses so maybe his mask was more corruptive ?

[pale geyser]

thats a pretty large pot, dayum-

[slate saffron]

The king was (seemingly) really big

[pale geyser]

thats actually just a mech-

[compact olive]

If they only had headdresses that covered their foreheads and he would something wrapped around his entire head.... maybe that’s why he became more corrupted than they did ?

[slate saffron]

:O

[hushed steeple]

Those dark stones at the bottom left look like the floor of the entire eden realm-

[pale geyser]

or maybe he wasn't actually a living thing made from light- XD

[compact olive]

The red stones

[slate saffron]

What are the red stones?

[pale geyser]

they drain light

[hushed steeple]

They be in Eden

Pretty hard to miss

[slate saffron]

Are they darkstones? Are they darkstones (or normal stone) that's just been really saturated in darkness? Or are they something else?

[compact olive]

I believe they are dark stones.

[hushed steeple]

Dark stones that ironically produce light

[compact olive]

The pipes all have specks of these stones in their vents much in the way you would filter or sift gold from water

[slate saffron]

Someone just poured a bunch of oil on it to make it reflective

[slate saffron]

It could also be that the red stones are crystals that calcify from the polluted water!

[compact olive]

I think there’s something here...

[slate saffron]

It feels like their soul is trapped inside their body

[compact olive]

Their light is blue... and it’s only when you ascend the the fallen stars/ancestors that they glow orange like butterfly light.
(With ascended candles, light given by the children of light)

Maybe their bodies are of darkness much in the way Christians feel “the flesh is of sin”

[slate saffron]

As I see, the ancestor's bodies are made from some sort of rock/clay and infused with light. However when these guys died their souls were trapped inside their bodies by... darkness calcification? So they need to be freed in order to ascend to orbit

[pale geyser]

l m a o my flesh aint sin tho-

[slate saffron]

It really depends on how you think the ancestors were made and if they're the same as the sky kids!

[compact olive]

no it’s a metaphor for them telling people that only in the human realm can you be corrupted and that the spirit belongs in heaven “untainted” by “the flesh”... the body... maybe it’s similar in Sky. Where their bodies are prone to darkness corruption and the spirit belongs in the constellations (“heaven” meaning stars).... not in bodies on this planet

[pale geyser]

lmao I knew what you meant- my Nana is always saying this

[slate saffron]

Bad and naughty ancestors get turned into Black Rock to antone for their sins

[pale geyser]

Naughty Naughty you'll get Caughty and then turned into a statue

[teal orbit]

Hello

I have returned

[graceful osprey]

I think they actually have extremely tough feathers

like steel

[teal orbit]

You know... there is this dev quote that says all creatures are born from the light and connected to the light...

[compact olive]

Each ancestor, or fallen star, has a corrupted corpse similar to a fallen child of light, or descendant.

[teal orbit]

Yes maybe scales, but there would be no difference in this case as the whale flies thru the sky

[slate saffron]

The fallen child corpses seem widely different from the ancestor's corpses material-wise though!

[compact olive]

How do you mean?

[teal orbit]

The ancestors were made by the megabird and they are like a less evolved species of cotl
At least according to canon

[slate saffron]

Well the ancestor's corpses tend to be covered in darkness, have a crack at the back, etc while the descendent's one are just gray!

[teal orbit]

Elaborate plz

Oh

[slate saffron]

It might be that the ancestors have less licorice on them tho

[teal orbit]

First, i would like to point out the statues in eden are heavily implied to be ancestors as well

[hushed steeple]

How?

[teal orbit]

Second, the statues in eden are covered in dust too

[hushed steeple]

Come to think of it, ascended ancestors give wing buffs which is practically an equivalent to WL

S u p

[teal orbit]

They are the fallen, and while showing clips of eden they say we have to save the fallen stars, the fallen spirits of our ancestors

[slate saffron]

I always thought that the statues at the eye of eden were other fallen sky kids

[teal orbit]

Sky kids shatter upon death

[hushed steeple]

Ancestors are the spirits while they were alive right?

Just to clarify-

[teal orbit]

Encasement in rocks is an ancestor trait not a skid trait

[teal orbit]

Yes

[hushed steeple]

Btw

While we're on the verge of dying in eden

We uh

[teal orbit]

We collect dust

Yes

[hushed steeple]

Get covered in the dust stuff right?

But then

Right before turning into that blue light,

[slate saffron]

WAIT A MINUTE I JUST REMEMBERED THE SOLIDER STATUE WITH BLUE CRYSTALS COVERING THEM AND A SPEAR NVM FORGET WHAT I SAID ABOUT MATERIALS

[hushed steeple]

It all just falls off

Very sus-

Jkjk

[teal orbit]

Ancestors

The fallen stars

The fallen spirits of our ancestors

[hushed steeple]

I used to think skids were like a 2.0 of the original (the statues)

[compact olive]

I think I have a question here

[teal orbit]

The dust realize you are dying and run away... u r a lost cause with no light to suck up

[hushed steeple]

O h

O H

So the dust is smort-

[teal orbit]

Yes

[hushed steeple]

B r u h

[compact olive]

The children with capes and no hair who give you candles in orbit come from the statues

[teal orbit]

The dust are just like parisites

[hushed steeple]

W h e r e

[slate saffron]

That feels more like a game mechanic than a piece of Lore. When you're dying your character sprite become near identical to the statues around you

[hushed steeple]

Imustsee-

[pale geyser]

Dust haves m i n d ?

[hushed steeple]

Aight

[teal orbit]

Not skids ancestors with capes... we gave them wl remember?

[compact olive]

The children with capes and no hair who give you candles in orbit come from the statues

And the children with capes and no hair are the souls of your friends....which are sky kids...

[hushed steeple]

Btw

Question

While flying

[compact olive]

The children with capes and no hair who give you candles in orbit come from the statues

And the children with capes and no hair are the souls of your friends....which are sky kids...

And those souls come from the statues of “the fallen” at eden

[teal orbit]

Do not use that word lightly my friend
U dont toss around game mech everytime u cant answer a question

[slate saffron]

No but I mean they probably shatter because if they didn't Eden would become cluttered

[teal orbit]

We go to orbit when we die

We dont stay there very long after death

And with the server limit at 8

Its not a game mech

[slate saffron]

Because we have one last piece of wing-ed light

[teal orbit]

We dont

We die when it reaches 0

Not 1

[compact olive]

@teal orbit Pyre can you explain why the spirits you save in Eden have your Sky kid friends names?

[teal orbit]

Skid gen theory aint canon btw...
Just saying

[slate saffron]

In the death scene you literally hug them

[pale geyser]

a GAME theory-

[compact olive]

A GAME theory! Annnnd cut

[pale geyser]

AAAAAAAAAND copyright

[teal orbit]

Thats not them

[pale geyser]

pretty sure thats the King or Prince-

[teal orbit]

They dont

[teal orbit]

Yes

[compact olive]

So who has your friends names in ascension ?

[teal orbit]

Those are your friends

[compact olive]

And what do they look like ?

[teal orbit]

Oe at least your memories of them

[compact olive]

Bald kids with capes make of light ?

[teal orbit]

Generic skids... a bit different from the ancestors u save

U go to eden

[compact olive]

Show me an image that shows they’re different

[teal orbit]

I looked fro the difference last time i was there

But u dont have to take my word for it

[slate saffron]

WRONG QOUTE, SORRY

[pale geyser]

?

[compact olive]

But we need to be saved

[slate saffron]

It's the same sprite as all other winged light

[icy spruce]

wh a t

[teal orbit]

Huh...

Thats weird

[compact olive]

But if we need to be saved then I’m certain they need to be saved too.

[teal orbit]

Wait how do u know

[slate saffron]

I compared screenshots once

[teal orbit]

We dont need to be saved

We shatter upon death

So the things in eden arent skids thats for sure

Plz dont pull another game mech

[compact olive]

Lol

Game mech

[teal orbit]

I explained it was a concious decision

[compact olive]

What quote says it was a conscious decision that sky kids explode and don’t leave behind statues ?

Was it a quote or was it some other type of evidence ?

[hushed steeple]

Right after seeing that castle in a blue background, and before seeing all those otber skids in endgame

You pass by the spirits right? And they give wax if you come close?

Alongside them are blue trails of light, shaped like the ones in enchantment. What are those?

[icy spruce]

the spirits you didn't relive

[teal orbit]

The shattering graphics are not glitches nor are they there to help game visuals, do we agree?

[compact olive]

We fall. We are without light. If you do not hug the child of light you think we are saved ?

Or is this a game mechanic to you?

[icy spruce]

H i

[teal orbit]

And by game visual improvement i mean like shadowless capes

[hushed steeple]

Wait...does that mean the season ones?

[slate saffron]

it could also be explained by the winds being incredibly high and as a result your statue is blown away and only the incredibly sturdy ones remain! @teal orbit

[icy spruce]

ye ig

[hushed steeple]

I HAVE BEEN ENLIGHTENED

[teal orbit]

Blowing away graphics look different

Ive seen it

[slate saffron]

BLESS US WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE @hushed steeple

[slate saffron]

Oh

[teal orbit]

Gen 1 skid theory remember?

[hushed steeple]

O o f

[teal orbit]

Boop back me up here

[hushed steeple]

I meant this one tho-

BAHAHAHHAHA

Sorry-

[icy spruce]

I

aaaAAA, so uh

[teal orbit]

We still dont become statues even if we dont hug the eden elder

[icy spruce]

what's the topic?

[hushed steeple]

?

O h

Skid generations?

Idk-

[teal orbit]

Its a non canon theory

But it had the evidence i needed

Boop can ecplain further

[compact olive]

Never mind the statues I only want to currently understand why you think being without light in a dark place means we are saved and in no need of rescue

[teal orbit]

We are in need of rescue...

[hushed steeple]

I n t e r e s t i n g

This makes way more sense than my thought on the skids being a 2.0

[teal orbit]

We do need rescue we just dont turn into statues

[icy spruce]

Megabirb: But they can't even go in the diamond! AAAA

[hushed steeple]

O o p

WhY dOesN'T iT jUst GiVe Us mOaR wL

Jkjk

Btw how does the WL save the statues?

It's not like each statue has it's specific corresponding WL

[compact olive]

I believe it’s the “hug the child scene”

[hushed steeple]

?

O h

[slate saffron]

Actually I just realized something. Since after you break free, all the other statues break free as well! So they're has to be a in-game reason for why eden is replenished.

[teal orbit]

Its a beautiful theory

But here's the thing
Skids are the fallen pieces of lighty
So megan making prototypes is not canon
But issok if u dont want to make canon theories

[hushed steeple]

THIS IS CONCRETE EVIDENCE OF PYRE'S CHARACTER ARC

SJJSNSHSIAJHAH

[teal orbit]

Eden isnt replenished.
We give them wl, their wl gives them capes just like when we first came into the world
And so they finally break free

[icy spruce]

OMG

HAHAHAH

[hushed steeple]

👀

[teal orbit]

My... character ark?

Whats that?

[slate saffron]

So logically since when you die you (for a moment) become a statue, we can assume that maybe there are a number of theoretical sky kids (who don't actually exist beyond lore wise) who don't break free

[hushed steeple]

Come to think of it, one WL is enough to give us a whole cape-

[icy spruce]

oh its a meme, that Pyre is an anime protagonist in a non existional anime about lore chat

[teal orbit]

Haha

Sure

[hushed steeple]

A h