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wait since i missed season of prophecy there was a prophet of fire right?
Yeye
yes there was
Yep
a fine lad
The chonkiest
god I still have to finish his trial
im
Imagine finishing trial of fire
i expected fire prophet to be skinnier
I’ve done the fire trial once
imagine speedrunning trials on a daily basis
I think whales and whurtles are the same
imagine finishing the trials
why would you do trials on a daily basis my god???
When your trial is the hardest, of course you need to be the chonkiest
@bitter shale had what it took to pass these trials 
well-
eyyyy nice job flos
i have reasons lmao
the skull structure is very difficult
Flos lend me your Avatar skillz
so like
No
i think it looks quite similar

Spieit
anubis = spirit incarnation of eden elder with memories but no voice pog
he has no voice, but he does have
DRUM
whelp- time to add 'im to the list-
we can never see the whale properly since it moves so fast
And all that because he has a halo
And that
maybe anubis is just so good and awesome they get a halo
so what is this sticker:

I think they deserve a second halo because they’re very handsome and i love them very much
I could see that they took inspiration from king's halo and since ots a prophecy about him, wjy not?
HOLD UP
Yes yes handsome anubis
Is that in eden??
its either too bright or too dark
The second white one? Yeppers
cursed
it looks like a catfish now
Nah it's looks like green eggplants
what if whurtles are a subspecies
One explanation is that they're light creatures
REBIRTH 
man and all this time I was wondering why the sun wasn't glowing and was spinning
More like ancestors of whales
now I know it's just a chonk
I wonder why the whales look like a mix of cat fish and a big maggot to me
Nice image
WRONG PIC

KSJKAJKSJKAJKS

LMAO FLOS
whurtles have chonk helmet to protect themselces in their environment
c h j o n k
Yes b i g m a g g o t
Maggot lmaooo
so is that classified as a whale or whurtle because it has an armoured head but has horns
so the whale could ram stuff
Ancestors are all bones 
Tbh? Idk either-
What is a whurtle?
we must remember that whales and whurtles also have feathers
Basically the ones that left all those bones in Graveyard
Isn't that a whale?
The creature whose bones you see in graveyard
Hmmm ancestor body are made of charcoal... Does skid body made from charcoal too?
at this point I dunno either
I literally thought before that the whales were big cat fish maggots
how many whurtle bones are their in graveyard?
Nope they are different
aus be like
Many
alternate universes
this is my new favorite sentence
I
Thanks
i see three whurtles on a map
oh my god that quote is almost a year old and I've only been here for like a few months
this could show that krill are whurtles
my back is catching up with me
anywho-
Iirc Reika also mentioned the existence of giant spirits once
that was also back in February and apparently that's why the weapons in Battlefield are so huge
chonk manta
oh thank god it doesn't have a jaw
It seems like only mantas that have golden helmet that have mouth
to this day this message is still surreal to me-
then again giant potions exist
Maybe some spirits were baptized in those
Waste elder
or they drank it for breakfast and went through a Rocky Balboa-style training regimen
so that’s what happened to hide and seek
Dead
like instead of a dozen raw eggs (wHICH YOU SHOULD NOT DRINK RAW DEAR GOD) it's just- two liters of giant potions
I took a resize potion when flying and now im a l o n g b o i
they did the giant regiment then decided they didn’t like it and wore a chibi mask to be normal size
Is that a mouth?
Ye
god I wish I had that problem
Oh my god
why can't you drink raw eggs?
agshashsh yeah same
salmonella
I want back the ten seconds of my life before seeing that image
Salmonella. And a bunch of other ugly stuff. also it doesn't taste good.

i felt the same way buddy- just embrace it-
i thought most eggs are very hygienic and are safe to be eaten raw
And real life manta mouth is like this sooo
S T O P
mantas in sky are more like eagle rays
I think you can use raw eggs if they’re like
I mean I guess? Would you risk the chance of salmonella tho
Why did y'all hate it, their mouth is cute
half-cooked is the best
this shadow thing is a hollow worm but they dont look like a worm for they are S H A D O W
Filipinos: sweats in balut
if
is illusion, that means isle elder is just creating illusions
oh?
his staff
that one thing that was on twt with the fire trial worms just being isle with two staffs
I wonder what the hollow worms look like when they are not S H A D O W
GRANDPA I TRUSTED YOU
I was about to say that you used the concept names
WHAT WAS THAT
would the hollow worms still be S H A D O W or D E A D or just LIGHT................okay ill stop
what if isle elder was one of the prophecy spirits
They'd be worm
which one
Two floating eyes
I actually think the worms are just shadows- either that or metaphysical manifestations of a skid's greatest fear whichever one sticks
What if the prophecy spirits are apprentices of isle elder
oo
isle elder could be fire spirit. When he was young, he could do all sorts of magic. Now he needs a stick
The elder teaches them and they teach the rest of the spirits like we see
what if the isle elder ate a taco for breakfast but the others think that it's a dog
What if we get isle elder broken mask cosmetic?
isle elder worked out and now all his chonk contributed to his tol
but in exchange he had to like
gain scoliosis
isle elder has wide shoulders
and a broken mask-
Thats very far fetched since they're completely different tho, but kool kool
skid: oh my god is that a cryptid
maybe some other elder hit him so his mask is broken
like a big slap in the face
Fun fact one of family members has a dog named taco
which one
Jumping in randomly but does having the orange just kinda exist in Sky add to the lore or does it not count since it’s part of an event?
wait what
Maybe the shattering of his mask is supposed to show how elder he is
Like he's the mega elder
hmm
That rven his mask starts to break
maybe during a certain day they balance oranges on their head??
king slapped him for guiding the children of light to stop him
Maybe it could also be to some kind of power overload? Like, they could be fighting against smthn
Like a hoard of Elders
wow English is failing me
horde
He doesn't look like a fighter tbh, or someone that would want to fight
Not like waste elder
So uncivilised
You don't need your fists to fight if you have magic staffs
stares at firework stick
The only magic we see is fireworks and magic paintings
you knowthat movie with the evil birds that break windows and stuff
and he's an old man I'm pretty sure nobody was expecting him to fight with fists
We have an entire spell system- I think that counts for magic
You mean that really good high budget movie?
to A T T A C K
it's really up to you whether you want to view orange as being canon in sky, but as with a lot of things in the game, not everything is necessarily canon.
#lore-discussion-spoilers message these were ktjn's words regarding the sanctuary items but i think they can be applied here as well
he can summon fires, explosions, and birds
O sit ur righy
Don't know about what u just said tho
man maybe he sent the birds to like... peck out their eyes Cinderella style
B r u h
I mean the uh alfred hitchcock one
He's just an old man stop making him a blood starved killer :"0
He just points a stick at someone and the birds start pecking them
jk jk
Wonder if the peeking postman is a boy or a girl but they can nonbinary too i dont mind what gender they are i just like them
same
Nobody cares
They're called a 'postman' but then again maybe that's for professionalism
also we have wheelie
yeye
ur welcome everyone. your questions have been answered
Soooo
discussing genders like we're on Twitter yes
Rabbit is valid
as a twitter person i agree sadly
Or any social media
I’m once again thinking about that tumblr post that was like “what if for the skykids the genders are the elders”
W h a t
Look we all can agree that genders in sky are human, birb, fish, crab, manta, memory manta and jellyfish
Wonder what it would be like if this replaced the krill

Don’t remember who made the post
gender: 
Teef
whelp- okay then Discord I'll establish that some other time lmao

Everybody stop and lets look at fat krill
Cutie
that's not a fat krill that's a nightmare
oh I forgot the censor
No thats an eel
Whos joe? 
you know they had to do it to em
Not funny for me cuz my mom is in J @ i l
Lucky
jesus christ, im sorry for you 

Its okay
im sorry, but it's better to move on from this topic 
I wonder if we'll ever see concept art krill ever in the game
Or just any dark creature they had made
bro if we were freaked out by a manta's toothless jaw
how do we even take a krill with more teeth than the Osmond family
We don’t
Imagine it smiling tho
we honk and run away
Noob
correctomundo
I may be a noob but at least I’ll be a noob with all four limbs
four limbs and an entire functioning body
Wonder how resize potions work with chibi spell
they don't
Apparently? if you drink a giant potion and a chibi potion it makes your chibi look a little chonkier
i know this because I tried this once and it was a weird move
if you mean the permanent resize, it doesn't work
iirc if you use the perma resize on a chibi its basically wasting it
as far as i remember, i dunno anymore cause i dont catch up with the news like before :)
I thought the chib mask dont affect resize height
man wasting that resize would not be worth going back to hell for
or maybe it will like you're gonna have to go back in there EVENTUALLY
I wish every time you did eden you'd change size even if you used resize spell
Krill: Y e e t u s c h e e l- * smacks krill* moth: NO
...well then i'm never going to eden again
Even greater idea actually
You could choose if you'd like to resize after eden or not
But here its L O R E
thats nice ig
I wish i could do that
Enchantment spirits are refugees trying to find a better future in a faraway land only for them to die because it was impossible to live in such conditions 
o h
and all of it is because crab dance interrupted playfight while they were collecting mushrooms
wheeze
Exactly
Its kinda sad to think they're kinda dead tho and probably starved to death even
A long time ago
And we just see their memories 
yeah :(
I find ironic that enchantment, you could say they were trying to find a santuary to live in..
And next season is exactly that :pWow:
sometimes i wish the questgivers we have now could move on because its. kinda sad that they just have to stand there in one spot for like ever while all their friends move on
but i also dont want them to leave
Tbh it'd be awesome if both creatures existed
Also so they can team up with the krills and then we can go to the clouds and the whales can help us
For me it would be fun
Those ARE dark dragons
Those ARE dark dragons
Yes, im just saying that they could have them as a different creature
They could make them look more like the whales for example
And have them be corrupted like the crebs
Wonder how the rest of the mantas died
Oh wait they got krilled
Or just died of natural things
What if krills had names?
If elder creatures had names then in my theories the Dark dragons would also have names too
Tgc krill: Greg, wasteland krills: sal,sam and mr krill
And the random krills: random krills
I have my own names for them and many others do as well but nothing 'offical'
And ship reck krill: ryan
How to train your krill
And a other krill: toothless

all my head cannon names are based off of the area that the krill are at
I wonder what everyone’s theories for this are. The developers clearly left out the isle elder from this Gate to Eden. Why?
Hmmm guys is it weird that only valley that srems to have different time on its location?
Dream village seems to be in dawn time
aesthetics maybe 
Wasn't it said before that the reason he's not there is because isle wasn't thought of as a realm?
But tutorial area
In beta or something
I think the sun is beginning to set in dream season area
Do you have a quote?
Nope
I've heard of someone that heard of someone
i feel like isle isnt part of the kingdom of sky
My mind: I dont know krill is sus me : i want that to be illustrated
I mean at the age it takes place probably not, since it was the start of civilization
Since there wouldn't even be a kingdom
Of that makes sense
But it’s referenced as part of it
If you want an actual explanation it might aswell be that in the history of sky, isle is prehistory
And he was forgotten
O
well maybe its in the same kingdom but is it in the kingdom of SKY?
its not in the sky
unlike other realms
Shouldn't probably take it too literally but i understand how you came up with it
Also w h a t
I mean.... it seems like it’s in the sky
Ye
hey that's beta stuff emilené
O o p
keep that outa here
This chat does allow spoilers
but not beta stuff
Thank you for the warning 
beta things are only allowed in beta channels
🚪 <—beta stuff 
its at sea level tho
So is Wasteland though
gang, looks like we have a mystery on our hands
maybe isle elder was kicked out of the club or something
like maybe he wasn't contributing enough so he didn't get his head on the door
I equate this mystery of why there is no Isle elder on the Eden city gates and the broken face of the isle elder (while no other elder suffered any damage) AND the battle scenes at wasteland to.....
👀 a war against the isle elder !!!
forest elder "c'mon man you haven't met your quota, that means no head in the door"
He’s the only elder who points you to Eden as his memory. He knows “the old ways” of rebirth and the beacon and mega bird while the other elders are more concerned in their cutscenes with technology and things of “this” world.
spirit vs. technology
who will win?
well from what we see the answer is
it's a draw
So deep, so complex
Are we going by the mug shots or the outcome of the world? Cause that elders face is broken as heck. So I’d say he lost. But...in the long run the civilization destroyed itself so...
Tbh almost all elders just want your light except vault and isle
The first and last area
on one hand
flying boats and automatic doors still work
on the other hand
spirits are just lying around all over the place
so like yeah I think kinda a draw

This guy also makes me think it was a war that cause the isle elder to be “broken” and not on the Eden gate
He’s praying to the Megabird fully armored and in the area that we know the wasteland turrets show down many a creature
But isle and waste take place in different ages the time we go to them
Never noticed there was somebody there. Oof
I think it’s more like.... a metaphor than an actual time line thing
@compact olive How you know isle isn’t on the door to eden? Isn’t it just eden elder missing?
na one of the valley twins knocked isle down some stairs
No it’s only the 5 elders and the shape of the isle elder is not there
When i meant the cloud spot in the first spot i meant these
It has six stars on the door
Top right corner they’re both there facing each other
Imagine if this spawns in wasteland then you have to flee to safety
Where?
Wishlist and ideas mate
O
I guess we're talking about the door frame not the door itself but you still get the idea
I mean everything is interesting
If they wouldn't like him why didn't thwy erase him entirely?
To send a message?
“You mess with us and this is what happens to you !”
“We break yo face!”
I'm lacking context but there are only 5 Elders on that door
And Isle Elder is the missing Elder
If i was like "laldeda ladede" and then this thing spawns and growls and you only have 12 seconds id be like " HOLY CRA-"
The Twins count for one
the king banished isle elder because he tried to restore the light
Wdym restore?
How can I help Viridi ? (I started the whole mystery of the door thing 😂)
good question
Idk I just kinda saw the thing about the door and thought I should reiterate
a theory that i am still theorising
Nice
@rotund crow profanity, even if it's implied profanity, isn't allowed in this server
could you please edit your message?
edit: Thank you 
I just really love talking about Old Man Isle Elder djskdkskdk
this one
He is q mystery
no swearing
Hi, whatchu talk about?
The door doesn’t look like@it has a sixth face to begin with. So it couldn’t be erased. The door was built after isle fell@out with the king
But then it would be weird to include all@six stars in the painting on the door
If the Isle Elder fell out with the King before that door was built, it's kind of weird to see that there's still a total of six shrines at the summit
So that would mean isle elder was lost. And ther was no anger
Sorry i didn't know
What if he just died tho, in isle he was really old and that was the beginning of the world basically
Idk if that makes sense
no worries 
I dunno if any of the Elders can die- or did die, but maybe that's just me
His mask could start to shatter, like most old things
We see waste elder almost defeated
So if they can be hurt..
They can die 
all elders have some trouble.
Could be. Could be.
What are you guys talking about?
They at least thought him dead
Isle elder
The Elders are actually just based off of how a a person would perceive adults at that point in their lives
Elders are all virtually ageless
Like- for example, a toddler would view an adult as these wise old geezers
So while he looks like an old geezer he's technically just as old as the Twins
isle: old and blind
prairie: tired and weak
forest:failure
valley: want to kill each other and one of them is disabled
wasteland:worn out from battle
vault: regret
eden: greed
wait I thought both the Twins were disabled
you can see that the mushroom hair one is significantly more disabled
Hm?
the spiky hair dude always has the flame somehow
Idk- even with the prosthetics those two always just seemed perfectly functional to me
They have prosthetics?
where they got split apart
Isn't there a theory where the valley twins used to be conjoined?
I forgot where I read that from...
but for real what are the hollow worms?
It was here too- all I took away from that theory was that they got cleaved in two by the King
Or the Megabird
I don't remember-
or maybe they chose to just for entertainment
These things I think just exist inside the Fire Trial
Dora: hey you know what would look cool
Kakashi: what
Dora: proceeds to cleave their arm off
I could see this happening
bro their architecture makes zero sense why WOULDN'T they sacrifice limbs to look cooler XD
The future is here
i think that they didnt have those limbs
Thanks to SCIENCE!
It makes sense though. 6 stars fell. Or 7... and the valley was one star. If they are twins they have been one when they fell
Yeah
When i see them attack sky kids im not scared but when i get attacked by hollow worms my heart beats like im running like naruto and trying to have a heart attack so im scared of them
I'm fairly new to sky and especiallly the lore so sorry if this is a dumb question but I've heard people call the forest elder a mother? who's mother is she?
Imo there were always just two of the Twins but they always counted for just one
Two halves of a whole Elder
Also heya, welcome to lore chat Halcyon!
Good question
basically we just call her that as a nickname
Well, most of skids see her as mother figure
ohhhhh that's nice
This is so disappointing lore peeps
Can’t we do better
I mean
She's technically genderless and ageless and I have no clue if she can even reproduce
She's the only mother figure we have
Or if Elders even have the need to reproduce
I guess you could just interpret it as her being the mother of technological advancement
And/or Forest
Well, I consider forest elder as a woman and she's like a mother figure
O
could be a man
Sr pelo....skid....SKID FROM SPOOKY MONTH!
dude- now those are some glorious locks right there-
yep
Sorry i just thought about that
but thinking about it, what about the body shape...
Move over Thor this is the REAL Loreal poster boy
it resembles a woman

ok so what i've gathered from this is that she's kinda like our mother, maybe aunt, maybe just a man, maybe not a mother at all
gotcha haha
has lore chat talked about the megan sky kids thingy in orbit before?
The what?
ITZ SPOOKY MONTH LETS SEE THE STARS!
What do you mean. Just because she has a big hammer she couldn’t be a woman 
Oh yeah
I always wonder about those things
Nah thats jesus
i never said it was because of that
meggie
Bootyful
Mega bird!
the bird-like image is presumed to be the megabird and the three skids are tribute to the old friendship icon in pre-global
I was pulling your leg my friend.
there is just dense black hole
meggieeeee
I'd say that version of mega birb is also to pay tribute to what it was or something, since in the ending we see its the galaxy we live in the birb
Stupid birb
I said it
M E G G I E
we are the birb
oh no now they call it MEGGIE
That explains a lot
humans are made of stardust skykids are made of MEGGIE
:(
I will say again. We are all@made of stardust
Humans, 93 percent
we are made of star
Aren't we stars? Like thw onea we collect
Skids- just... Pure stardust
So uh, something I wonder. What is the place we passed when we went to orbit?
The power of starlight and friendship keeps us afloat lmao
They are kinda castle-like which made me wonder
skids: pure electrically charged plasma undergoing nuclear fusion contained in a humanoid body of clay
By that place do you mean the place we fly up to when we die?
It's also like the stadium but I'm not sure
Cuz I'm pretty sure that's Eden
part of a palace
Giant castle was always my guess- more for theatrics than anything
M E G G I E I S M E G G I E
WHAT IF EDEN CASTLE HAD A STADIUM
Also this reminds me of valley
M E G G I E
start of orbit feels like the races
M A G G I E
I did not got anymore screenshot cuz I was trying to go to the flying castle oob
Which I did not went to...
Im dying by the almighty M E G G I E
The structures on the way to orbit looks similar to valley...
help-
i have a new theory on megabird
H O W
it's eden castle from distance
it is not alive, it is just a wormhole
Jep
How to get there?
megan is a galaxy?
Eden castle before eden crystal poofed
If Megabird is a wormhole, what's on the other side?
i'll dm u
supercluster
I wanna do eden oobs 
the kingdom of sky
Are we not already in that Kingdom wh-
Or are you suggesting that at some point we passed through a wormhole?
When we died, somehow
megabird is in the stars
I can imagine megan had the sky kingdom on megan's back
megabrid is the stars
Reading along, i'm confused. Is any of this lore canon? Or is most of it, theories
I need help- im dying of too much funnyness
theories and headcannons
Oof uh
MEG MEG MEGGIEEE
theories
Is funnyness even a word
This stuff goes deeeeep man
Canon TECHNICALLY exists, but it's secondary to creating theories
Tgc delete Canon
Mostly this channel is for having fun and coming up with stuff
Canon poof
Nothing is definitive in this channel because of that canon fix
So we mostly rely on speculation
canon is only used to back up some theories
now that's a pretty one-dimensional way of looking at things but alright
why are mods not responding to us using unknown nicknames
Mods like@lore@channel
So to answer- we're not encouraged to follow canon
Whatever 'canon' there is though, we can send it on request
Send me! Please
I was peacefully gliding through sanctuary 30 minutes ago but now I'm having an existential crisis about how we are a bird or something idk
The M A G G I E
yep
faint
we are made out of megan
Anyway here's the doc
Bird is galaxy. Galaxy is stars. We are made of stardust. We are part of megabird
Let me reiterate however that whatever is in that doc is not gospel
thanks for this sky bible
If the 'canon' in there does not fit with your interpretation, then it's perfectly alright
kind of a fun fact that calling it a bible was our downfall a few days ago lmao
oh no i'm sorry lol
religious argument?
Nah it's fine, we've moved on and tryna get better XD
bird is a SUPERCLUSTER (in my point of view
what happened?
you don't see many galaxies that look like that
How@many you seen?
because MEGGIE isn't just any galaxy she is THE galaxy she's extra
Can you see the shadow above the castle
Uh, tl;dr talking about canon too much gave the impression that we're too concerned with seeing what's right and what's wrong, so the mods' solution to that one was to remove the concept of canon
I opt for skyble!
starts downloading hubble deep field
yeah no last time that happened we had a chat overhaul
mmmmmmmm potential light dragon, anyone? 
Ozie typing text wall
spoiler
Theres a theme here... every elder on this door to the ultimate city is an elder of technological progression. To an energy source not like the isle elder who’s very implied title (ferrymen) is to ferry souls to Eden’s beacon back to Megabird.
I don’t believe this is coincidence or an oversight of the developers.
I believe it was very intentional as part of the foundation of the story behind Sky and it’s kingdoms.
If there was a war in battlefield and in graveyard in Golden wasteland then why would a person at firing range outside of the fortress walls be bowing to a representation of mega birds ideals?
In concept art it says “creatures in our holy land?!” And “the creatures attacked”
Well who Shepard’s all creatures to the holy land!? Isle elder....that’s who.
if thats beta, can you delete it?
WHAT

ikrrr
they give us light for every hour btw
uhhh its on the news as well
they give us waxes
THE PINK GRASS
Sorry oz that is to complex and linked to a lot of other theories that I can’t follow your thought there.
also Oz I'm having a bit of trouble understanding the wall of text you just sent-
Like what was the oversight- Isle Elder's absence?
i think thats just the lighting from the firework
No no

my candles: adios
The news says home will be turned pink
Its too pink tho skhsjahahs
huh, not the office?
okay but then what was about that person kneeling by a representation of Megabird
's ideals-
oooohhhh
Kinda lost me there I'm sorry aksjkajksjkajks
person kneeling? where
that's what I'm asking akjskajks
Who is that person bowing, and what's their relation to the Isle Elder?
How does it circle back to the door to Eden?
Isle elder Shepard’s all creatures to Eden beacon. (All other elders about tech advance)
Door missing isle elder face
War at wasteland + soldier bowing to mega bird on opposing side of the war against wasteland fortress.
= isle elder at war with other elders ideals
Megabird = natural energy
Elders = tech advancement
“If only they had listened..”
Isle@elder also fell@and did not listen
why are there @s in your sentences?
Because I typ on my phone
And the @ is close to my space
And I hope to start a trend
Working?
@ b c
i'm missing something in that I still don't know who this bowing person is
oh my god it's the catapult eyes guy isn't it
Next to katapult
O
this guy and his tiny nightmarish eyes
Swprd
Maybe his fall wasn’t one of turning directly from the “way of light” like the other elders who chose tech advancement for their people, but perhaps his fall was one of choosing war over diplomacy
👀 ooooooooh
I think that guy's just a statue personally
robot
They use it
Their form is far removed from what we see of Ancestors and even the Elders
“The way of light” is a short hand for rebirth and heading to the beacon for a natural death and ascension back to Megabird meant not to stay on the planet 🌎 but to return to the stars
It’s a statue so maybe they took liberties ?
A we're going fully theorising
Statue is what I think it is ye-
Actually not theorising the othwr thing
maybe they look different because of their armour
They’re still bald....but....they do have fingers
Oh my god!!!! New theory!!
gloves
Humans existed and the ancestors wiped out the humans!!
So Megabird's ideal was for the Elders to stay in the Kingdom?
And like- not go back to the stars just yet?
i theorise that megabird cant have ideas because it is not alive
To guide the stars back through rebirth. But that got changed when they chose tech advancements over the natural course of a life cycle
Ah- so they chose to go their own route instead of sticking to the program?
And Isle Elder was the only devout?
thats a good theory
That’s my theory!!
here me out what if the kaboom set some form of power free like a nuclear explosion and the red rocks are part of the scattered stone
chat got krilled for 3 minutes
Something I always wondered about the theories that have them go to war because of this rigged rebirth cycle is that if this was a thing, do the Ancestors just know about the entire thing, and if they would ever want to go to war because of it
In your version Oz the return to the stars seemed inevitable until the Elders decided they wanted to deviate from that plan
So were the Elders operating behind every Ancestors' backs for this, or were they in on it?
maybe they were brainwashed into thinking that it's a good thing
idk whenever I see that my brain just thinks
Elders: so we're all going to die and be reborn
Elders: why wait
elders:everyone we are not gonna rebirth like this anymore
ancestors: why
elders:umm, its very bad
ancestors:understandable, have a great day
I got another stupid question. Are our sky kids immortal then? since they keep getting reborn?
That's functional immortality ye
so we never age either?
You die, but never permanently
theoretically i mean
Depends on how you view a skid and their situation
Some say we're in a time loop, and some say we're golems simply incapable of aging
It's not actually that clear :'DDD
do you think the eden diamond affected the rebirth beam?
I think it does to some extent? Because we don't know how powerful that thing actually is
Powerful enough to render what was supposed to be a utopia into an uninhabitable ruin and summon rhythmic eternal storms of rocks and pop tart rocks sure but still
Might have something to do with it being powered by what looks like the Ascension beam
Just a thought. Sky is in the clouds. What is bellow the clouds??? And go.... 👉
ocean
Lots and lots of ocean
You can see that there's sea-level realms like Isle and Wasteland- plus Sanctuary
whatever is below the clouds ez
Heaven of sky people
What would the other realm be?
maybe Office... 
What-
Hmmmmmmmmm aight so i just watched pewd's journey gameplay and someone actually explained the whole story of journey in comment section.
Their comment makes me realized something... the fallen in eye of eden, could those be our body? We always thought our body shattered when we died in eden... but what if its not the case?
What if the fallen actually our previous bodies? The birth cycle is infinite, and it is not impossible that when we first start the game we are actually being reborn from previous life as well.
Another question remained : why do we need to give the wls to the fallen? Well, i have speculation for that : whenever we died we leave a piece of ourselfin those stone corpses. Fragments. When we give our wls to them its like calling them to go back to you, the rightful owner. These lads, of course, will return to you in form of ascended candles.
I believe ascended candles are our knowledge of how to access the rebirth cycle. Its like knowledge that exclusively known only for us, since we are suppose to be the successor of the original Child of Light. When we give ACs to spirit, its like giving them knowledge of how to go back to the stars. ACs are what make our sole purpose to bring back the stars to the Light possible
....okay i have rambling these far and yet there are stsill questions remaining-
If the fallens are indeed our bodies from previous life, the what are wls? Are those our 'imprints' of our past self??? our past memory??? Our past knowledge????
MSJSMSHSNA AIGHT I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS FURTHER BYE
Since the WLs are imprints of our past selves, and we give them to the fallen to be soon made into ACs, would that mean that we might be giving part of ourselves to spirits for them to ascend through ACs?
Yeah... thats what im thinking as well ._.
It could be that we giving them permit to ascend to the stars lol
So skykids are picked apart, made whole but then give part of themselves away...
then this cycle repeats? oof
'Yo megabirb calling, yall better go before she mad'
'But we didnt know the wae...'
'No worries fam. take this candles, they will lead you home... somehow'
suspicious stare
'You done staring? Now give me that fancy cape'
The candles have a tag saying the instructions for ascension XD
"ye don't be confused that this kid is giving this to you. yay you're going back to megabirb!"
Good point

Also, one of the statues before the true eye part, the ones with crystals growing out of them, is destroyed by a boulder from the rock rain when you get near it
and, while Im hear, can someone uber me to all of the winged lights? Its fine if not
thx
imo I think we're not the fallen for 2 reasons:
- our bodies shatter when we die, there's nothing left but a soul
- the fallen look different from regular skykids, as we see in the ascended candle cutscene their capes are thicker material and don't have slashes in the bottom like ours (their capes are basically colourless versions of the red belonging cape)
Hmmm good point

i do think we're related, but they're probably not the exact same as us
personally, i split it like so:
The Child of Light: fallen in stargazer's memory, became prince/king
The Fallen: sent sometime after the CoL, likely for similar reasons (bring light to the kingdom)
The Children of Light: us
I didn't know Destiny was part of the sky universe
Wait there something bugging me about this. Because we don’t give the statues just something. We give them the golden bois we collecting in sky. That rekindles the flame that is lost. I don’t think that when we are scattered and ripped by eden that our soul is scattered in sky. I think this statues where@others. And we collect there soils and return them so they can finally ascend. Just like we are reunited with our golden boi after eden and can also ascend.
The golden boi is key to ascension
No boi no ascension
And as a reward the ascended golden bois give us special candle that we can use to open friendships with the spirits. They can ascend before you open up 2ndd tier.
They just fortify the bond.
And that way because now your best buddy. They give you a permanent wl to help you on your reborn.
@bitter shale
I have always wondered: how tall are the Elders?
There are oobs that show their character models
The model size varies tho
Like they’ll be one height in their cutscene, another height in vault cutscene, and another in eden
They are fallen stars. Stars vary I. Size so why not the elders
is there an official name for the statues in the eye of eden? the ones u give light too
to*
i think they meant the individual elders, like height for isle elder is... height for valley elder spiky...
The elders are the leaders of their constellation’s community. Note that the isle elder has few followers and their lives or the memories that we do see are about the fire 🔥 making process and the child of light finding process etc.
As you go up the ranks of the different constellations you’ll start to see a deviation from original (live, make fire, go to Eden, die ) life cycle and it becomes more of a mining for dark stones and catching light creatures and even learning unnatural powers like telekinesis etc. so each Elder was in on their civilizations fall
The only one that’s broken and not a part of it was the isle elder who is not represented on the Eden city gate who also has the fewest fallen spirits in his domain
Good point, the spirit in vault of knowledge can literally float
And is capable of telekinesis
is there an official name for the statues we save in eden?
they’re usually referred to as the fallen but i dunno if that’s an official name
where do we even see the megabird in game?
there’s an image of them in the end credits
oh
“The fallen”
and I think they’re also visible in orbit?
This is supposed to be a bird??
how is that a bird?
you can see a beak
it looks like a flame or water drop
and some wings
what part is the beak??
that hook kinda part
ohhh, and the rest is a tail
what do u mean by out loud?
Poor Megabird threw out its back ages ago
I have a theory
I believe that one of the Forest spirits is actually an orange farmer
they grew so many oranges that they would hand them out to little skykids as they passed by
but skykids don’t know what to do with oranges! They can’t eat them with their masks on, or else it’ll be messy. Solution?
It’s a hat!
thank you for coming to my TED talk 
definitely the Blushing spirit
they love their oranges but get all flustered when skykids compliment their orange growing talents
what about the angry spirit? you can see them carrying a ball on their quest ..... orange
and they get mad the skykids just put it on their heads or something
don't squish my orange
perhaps in a future chapter of sky, someone will unravel the mysterious true purpose of the oranges.....
maybe all the trees in forest are orange trees....
too many oranges? inb4 this happens
what if it were the hide n seek spirit, but they're so good at hiding all the orange it's taken all this time for anyone to find them.
:O and they feed the oranges to the crabs inside the cave!!
bringing oranges
What if all of the Forest spirits were orange farmers
and all of the trees in forest were orange trees
what if the oranges are the source of corruption
:0
hello what is going kn
they got to forest, they grew oranges, ate the oranges
such betrayal 
maybe they ate all the oranges and that's why the trees in the forest have no leaves
and now skykids wear the oranges on their heads to honor the fallen spirits
what if those sphere things dark plants have are corrupted oranges
that's so sweet
i can feel my brain expand 🧠
You’re definitely on to something Giccix, I feel it
what if everything in sky is made of oranges :)
In our hearts we are all moths 
have u seen the shadows of skykids
a theory
do tell
idk how to reproduce but our skykid is made out of multiple balls
skykids are made out of a coat of clay to conceal the inner citrus
hence balls = oranges
shiny bois are just oranges
we are oranges
the skykid shadow was secretly oranges this whole time 
indeed
yes
skykids have become one with the orange
the devs love oranges
why do u think all our seasonal candles have been orange HMMMm?
The orb in our chest is an orange
orbit is a big orange
glowy orange
megabird is actually a megaorange
The one tree trunk in forest has giant mint oranges on them. They aren’t eggs.
we are all 🍊
orange eggs from the orange megabird
when we ascend spirits they turn orange so we brought them closer to the 🍊
si
skykids absorb the orange juice of the glowy bois
orbit is just a citrus farm
crabs are just oranges gone rotten

does this mean the fire trial is the orange trial?
all the stars?
ew rotten oranges
those are just oranges
orange you glad I didn't say 
orange eyes
shadows have oranges for eyes
their eyes are oranges
blood orange
orange trial
did someone say
?
they exist
glad to know we share the same brain
and they taste good too
Yes.
I still think forest has the strongest connection to the oranges. oranges come from where? trees. there is also the orange light in the big area of forest
FLOATINF ORANGE
the light we see when we honk is just a big orange


this kinda looks like my sky kid-



