lore-discussion-spoilers

[teal orbit]

wouldnt it?

[queen locust]

i think the better way to describe it is that it's a cannon-

[icy spruce]

turreeett

[queen locust]

that's quite the huge gun- like holy heck

[icy spruce]

king turret ads flashbacks

[finite vine]

Ever try to overfill a battery? >.>

[teal orbit]

ohhhhh

[queen locust]

Heck and doesn't it depend on what it hits the skid with

[teal orbit]

BOLTERS!!!!!

[glad galleon]

so powerful my skid go poof if it was on

[teal orbit]

sky needs bolters... there is no question abt that

[finite vine]

^

Wish I could talk more here, but all of my theories are old and just kinda

Wrong

Well

Not wrong but

Changed because of new seasons

[teal orbit]

more like "ssszszsszzzzzzzzzzz" as your ashes scatter into the smoky sky

[teal orbit]

thats ok! fire away~~~ if there is one thing im good at, its reshaping theories to match canon

[finite vine]

Man its been a while since ive talked about one but uh

My thoughts on shipwreck in wastes. Any cemented theories already or?

[teal orbit]

nah

[finite vine]

Because to me it seems like a flagship for a military, the statue, what seems like krill damage, and its large scale

Basic but like I said been a bit hahaha

[teal orbit]

good one

the statue is prob a multi melta turret as well...

[finite vine]

Can always go get a quick screenshot

Im not up to date on the large turrets

[teal orbit]

and given that all the sailors were armed and wearing uniforms, it WAS prob a battleship

[finite vine]

Yeah

[queen locust]

A battleship carrying diamond molds and stone graves?

[teal orbit]

basically, if it is a king statue, its possibly a turret, maybe not
but who knows...

[queen locust]

I find that peculiar

[finite vine]

They could be an armed transport of sorts then

Maybe wasteland ships are armed incase krills attack

if krill existed back then which im sure they did

[queen locust]

That they were downed suggests to me that while krill existed, they couldn't have been commonplace

To this day we only ever see that one krill

[teal orbit]

yeah thats the thing... it couldnt fly either, as it has no power diamond holders... so it was not a front line fighter much less a flagship of an entire fleet...
which means it was an armed transport, like fenzzar said or they were an old battle ship, in the process of being phased out of service...

[finite vine]

Hm, true

[queen locust]

actually something about what you said earlier kinda confused me- why do you think that the king-shaped thing was also a turret

much less multi melta

whatever melta means-

[teal orbit]

why would they put a king statue on a ship for any other reason than armament?
before u say propaganda, remember that it was a back line transport and there were no other things that has even the slightest potential of being offensive on that ship other than the statue...

[teal orbit]

just think laser lol

[finite vine]

It could be used as a way to discern different shipping companies?

Like a red right hand

[queen locust]

It could be less of propaganda and could just be purely decorative, that's not impossible either

[finite vine]

^

[teal orbit]

its too big... why not have an insignia then?

[teal orbit]

again, what i just said

[finite vine]

True

Guess it wouldnt be the first time they would of used insignias as well

if it had one

[teal orbit]

it would have tipped the balance of the ship severely, like the bridge on an aircraft carrier... i cant believe they would have put such a heavy slab of metal on a ship thats supposed to be planned out and practical if not for a real purpose

[queen locust]

There are other factors that could be at play here that we don't even know of- like firstly could it have been war times when that ship was downed

Secondly, if they aren't at war, that would suggest they put that there specifically for krill

[finite vine]

Theres signs of a krill attack though, so it wasnt downed by an opposing militant

[teal orbit]

krill were most likely weaponized during the war

[finite vine]

Or that

[queen locust]

Most likely isn't convincing at all to me, because I still believe it otherwise

[teal orbit]

it was prob war... its crew were armed to the teeth with anti personnel weapons, which were useless against krill

so it was prob war, but they were surprised by the krill...

[queen locust]

I can see that through your view if those krill were weaponized

The shipwreck is a circumstantial piece of a place with too little context to it so forgive me if I'm being a little skeptical about it

[finite vine]

Hm, thinking about it isnt there something similar to a lighthouse by the outer edges?

Could it of shipwrecked because of low visibility?

The krill could be explained by the escaping crew being seen on the top deck

[teal orbit]

no no thats a good thing

[teal orbit]

maybe... the water there IS shallow and rocky...

maybe there were multiple reasons, like the ark

[lucid bridge]

Sorry to interrupt, but does anyone know why this golden pot is here? Is it just for decoration? Layer 1 of the Vault

[queen locust]

Oh - that's another beta leftover, but I haven't seen too many theories about it

[lucid bridge]

Oh I see. Thank you

[finite vine]

Well it was fun theory crafting again, might come back later but I need to sneep now

[pale geyser]

Lmao that stance, it always makes me laugh

https://tenor.com/view/nickelback-nickleback-photograph-laugh-gif-5516520

[tawdry dune]

So going off of the glyphs of ark, a krill was the cause of it crashing yea?

[past mountain]

not only the krill

I think they crashed because of the storm

if you see, there's lightning around the capsizing ship

and perhaps the krill guarded the entrance, resulting in their inability to escape

to get from valley to wasteland you need to cross the storm

[queen locust]

I kind of wonder if that storm appeared around the time of the Enchantment crew- because I doubt that was always there

And even after the Enchantment crew landed the storm never subsided

[teal orbit]

hello im back

[queen locust]

Oh heya

[pale geyser]

Hi!

[teal orbit]

here`s my theory on the storm and the ark

the ark was a government funded inter-realm operation so it was VERY well funded...
so there was prolly a way for them to evade the krill (cuz after the war the krill were everywhere in wasteland and everyone knew that)

it would be foolish to send a multi million dollarcandle ship to wasteland without any anti-krill mechanisms

back then the world should have been still recovering from the debris and environmental pollution caused by tsadi`s reckless industrialization and then the war even more than rn, so the weather must have been more harsh with frequent storms and darkness rain...

[pale geyser]

the rain in forest is acid?? wait what

[teal orbit]

so the storm in the ark mural must have compromised the anti-krill mechanisms
and when the krill attacked, they had nothing to use against the krill and they crashed...

[teal orbit]

oop srry darkness rain

[pale geyser]

ah ok

[proud fable]

I love those theories!

[teal orbit]

there we go all fixed lol

[pale geyser]

but what is your evidence, btw?

[teal orbit]

so, avis wut dya think?

[teal orbit]

the murals

they show a storm and a krill

they both affected the ark somehow and i was trying to figure out how the 2 complimented each other to crash a high tech science vessel

[pale geyser]

is it high tech?

[teal orbit]

for its time, yes

[queen locust]

I like your takes while the war is happening, but I can't help but think of what the whole thing would have looked like if the war wasn't a factor in it

There's always a chance of it having happened before the war

[teal orbit]

think of the shipwreck like the enterprise and the ark as dicovery

[pale geyser]

they should put dates on murals smh

[teal orbit]

i was thinkinig AFTER the war, but your concern is valid

but the ark must have been deployed in the days AFTER environmental pollution

cuz it was sent to restore the wasteland (thats canon)

and all im saying is that it must have been worse back in the day

even without the war and the debris

[queen locust]

So in your take their motivations for carrying out the experiments were born out of concern for the worsening environment?

[teal orbit]

currently wasteland has had thousands of years to purify itself with no sentient intervention so back in the day it should have been way worse

[teal orbit]

well... thats what they said at the start of the season... i think.. so yeah...

[queen locust]

Could you quote that start of the season- I wasn't around for that time unfortunately

[teal orbit]

ohh it says prosperity

they were trying to get rich

but if they were to settle in GW they would have to first purify it

they were searching for a new land

[queen locust]

man imagine them having landed on pretty much perfect experimenting grounds

barren, detached from society and undisturbed

[teal orbit]

so no matter the intention, they must have been planning to purify the land, hence the lights

[teal orbit]

3 mile island lol

[queen locust]

I mean- the caveat was that it was maybe a bit too barren and oh that minor issue of them having practically no way back

[teal orbit]

ok changing to a new device now

please wait a bit...

[teal orbit]

They were explorers... they were taking risks...
Plus, the plan was always to settle there
And return on the ark if the plan failed...

And being barren was a good thing... they woukdnt want to try to settle on a war zone if they could have a clear space...

[queen locust]

They were there long enough that they started farming

on sand

i still want to know what it was that they fARMED IT'S DRIVING ME NUTS

[teal orbit]

They planning to settle there remember?

[queen locust]

It still doesn't look that it was meant to be a permanent thing to me but I'm more curious about what it was that they were planting

[teal orbit]

When they ceashed there, they didnt panic remember? They were prolly like oh what the hell lets get started

[queen locust]

and yeah I know the easy answer is crops but like- what cr o p s

[past mountain]

how do we know what they did when they crashed tho-

[teal orbit]

U want the scientific name?

[pale geyser]

Jellyfish, get a clue.

[queen locust]

Uh no- I don't even know what it was they were planting

[teal orbit]

The murals...

[past mountain]

do murals depict panic

[queen locust]

Not to mention we have a limited assortment of flora

[past mountain]

we don't know anything about what they did when crashing for sure tho that's what I'm saying

[teal orbit]

And the spirit memories, dreamacorn

[queen locust]

and the ones of which we've seen already look barely edible-

[past mountain]

the spirit memories could've come from a later date

they may have not panicked but it was unexpected

[teal orbit]

Sure

[queen locust]

Muralist seemed pretty chill when they landed though like- at what point do you just get up and draw all over the crash site

I realize the painting might have taken some time after the crash though

Who knows maybe they did actually lose it for a brief moment until Enchantment guide was like 'oi do you all want to starve stop freaking out'

[past mountain]

perhaps at first they tried to escape/avert the destruction but couldn't, and then decided that yes, we can't escape, so let's brighten it up a bit

[teal orbit]

The only farms we see in sky are in the ark... so it rlly isnt surpsing the flowers on the meadow dont look edible lol

[teal orbit]

That seems abt right

[teal orbit]

Haha yes lol

[past mountain]

my point is that the story of sky is intentionally vague, so we can't enforce a general theory on things that we are not sure about

[teal orbit]

Sure

My theory was pretty vague yk...

Only sticking to stuff most of us agree on

And im not one to force theories on ppl... just canon

[queen locust]

force is kinda subjective and I'll say right now that you come off that way sometimes

But I'll leave my grievances there

[teal orbit]

Oh?
Srry it i do

[queen locust]

the ark farm does suggest that there's a wider world of agriculture in the world of Sky and the nature junkie in me wants to know more about it-

[pale geyser]

Lmao repressed artist vibes

[teal orbit]

Ikr???

[queen locust]

And there was a SkyShop Poem that outright said that Prairie had f a r m s

[past mountain]

i didn't accuse you of anything, I said "We"

[teal orbit]

Ikikik

I get defensive sometimes

[teal orbit]

Ikr?

[crude olive]

Wasteland spirit got a yee yee a** haircut

[queen locust]

I know SkyShop poems are only like dubiously canon but I've got nothing else everything is just submerged in cloud

[queen locust]

i dunno what the heck that means but that's probably accurate-

[crude olive]

Maybe if he got rid of it he’d get some winged light in his cape

[pale geyser]

[past mountain]

so I read about this theory of the sun and diamond shields, it was quite intriguing tbh, if anyone would like to discuss it

[teal orbit]

Sky shop poems are prolly canon... are they not?

[queen locust]

oh shoot it's Two Shields Theory time

[teal orbit]

Haha ive retired in that field

[pale geyser]

Replace one of the shields with a sword and done, the equation is balanced

[crude olive]

Sky shop poems are adorable

[queen locust]

Note the 'dubious' because I haven't actually seen too many people outright say that those are canon or not

[teal orbit]

Oh...

[queen locust]

But they're useful as heck

[teal orbit]

But its a description of the world of sky BY THE DEVS~~~ i think thats like the definition of canon...

[queen locust]

Also ye Acorn we can talk about the Two Shields if you wanna

[pale geyser]

lmao the beta is also a description by the devs, but that's not necessarily canon

[queen locust]

You might have already seen the lengthy section but just to recap the Two Shields Theory basically has the sun and diamond shields found in Battlefield

[teal orbit]

Its not a description of the LIVE version

[queen locust]

Suns face outwards, and diamonds face inwards

[teal orbit]

The world of beta and the world of live are 2 separate places...

[past mountain]

ay aye

[queen locust]

Who was on which side is very much debatable and unclear and is breeding grounds for heated debate

[teal orbit]

It is?

I never really cared...

[past mountain]

the fact that the suns face outwards probably means that they had taken over the temple/been trapped by the diamond allies

[teal orbit]

My main focuscwas always how they fought lol

[queen locust]

that... is a blatant lie you have an entire version of Two Shields Theory to yourself Pyre-

[teal orbit]

Ik

[pale geyser]

W A R

[teal orbit]

Most of the tsts i make are based on armament and how the war went and how far it spread

[past mountain]

I don't think that's as important as determining e.g. the cause of this war, the ones that participated... but anyway

[queen locust]

as you may have noticed the how's and why's are the main focuses of the discussion but where it ultimately differs is what the motivations for the war even were

[crude olive]

If I hugged a skykid

would I get burnt

[queen locust]

Probably not-

because I would cry if I couldn't hug a sky kid-

[teal orbit]

I dont care as long as its detailed packed and full of unnecessary bloodshed

[queen locust]

A notable thing about the Two Shields Theory is that GW Elder uses both shields- the problem with that one being that we don't know from which side he defected to and from

[pale geyser]

Probably a revolution of some sort. I mean, societies in sky all seem to follow trickle-down economics-

[queen locust]

ah yes- the big fat corporate lie that is trickle-down economics

[past mountain]

yeah, the spear has the diamond symbol and the shield bears the sun as the primary marking

[queen locust]

i'd go to war over that

i legitimately would-

[pale geyser]

Oofers, my dude. It also seems to be based on a caste system, so...
When does that ever hold up

[queen locust]

Other than the basics tho I can't relay much- there are a lot of versions of this theory and they all have their own takes on how things went down

Pyre for example has their own whole version of it

[pale geyser]

lmao yes, for sparta

[queen locust]

And I can't recap it for the life of me sorry Pyre-

[past mountain]

so perhaps the diamond represents industrialisation and mass production/undermining of the diamond's value and the sun represents purity and light?

[teal orbit]

Tsadi could just be using 2 different insignias as a symbol of peace and unify between the 2 factions after the war...
After all... what kind of war keeps going after one side's leader crosses over to the other?
And what kinda army lets a defector use their original insignia?
And what kinda defector wants to use their old side's insignia?
Defectors have to prove their worth and loyalty so defection is a highly unlikely theory...

[queen locust]

That's one way to look at the diamonds and suns symbolism

[past mountain]

what is insignia

[teal orbit]

Haha...

[queen locust]

A symbol basically

[past mountain]

sorry I suck at military terms

[teal orbit]

A sym- yes that

What virdi said

[pale geyser]

Symbol or logo i think

[queen locust]

And war is pretty much out of my domain of expertise so Imma leave this to you guys

[teal orbit]

Hahaha its my world now

[queen locust]

I need to clean up my homework-

cya'll in a few hours

[teal orbit]

Aaand everyone leaves...

[past mountain]

we do see multiple signs of heavy and greedy/reckless industrialisation in the wasteland and eden, (the latter perhaps confirms the theory of the king's corruption), and maybe the vault also required them for storing memory/knowledge?

the diamonds

[teal orbit]

Plus the most diamonds were consumed by the wealthy ppl in valley

[past mountain]

c-consumed?

I'm sorry what-

[teal orbit]

I was trying to say used...

The meaning differs with context

[past mountain]

o h

I thought you meant "consume" literally owo

[worn shore]

Sorry to suddenly jump in here. But I'm quite curious as to what exactly the Sky is. Seeing that we have a cycle and we have to release spirits and stars, is it some sort of realm before the ascension?

(I've only been playing for a week or more but I've been kinda taking my time looking around for lore pieces after a few eden runs)

[livid valley]

You look new here's a startup pack. Lore Moff Doc (ESSENTIAL, credits to Bricky)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing
The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :))

[worn shore]

Oohh ty ty this will help a lot

I rlly liked Journey which made me get this game, so I figured the story speaks louder than what it is initially seen so I'm wondering if I'm missing the bigger picture

[livid valley]

Indeed

Devs dosent provide much canon lore for us so we can imagine any theory we waned

[worn shore]

That's always the fun part tbh

[livid valley]

Yes

[pale geyser]

Mom: Why is their homework file 36 gigabytes

[queen locust]

because they're all filled with physics solutions

36 gig just to understand physics- I'm dum dum

[icy spruce]

I hear

w a r

And late

again

aaaaaaa

Anyways, welcome back to:

CHAT GOT KRILLED

Our, uhh 4th or 7th??? Contestant is Viridi

Who currently has a score of 3 mins

[cosmic quiver]

Hello again everybody!

Finally, I completed writing my theory!

I'll publish it now

[true grove]

[icy spruce]

Anddd, Viridi's score is about 8 mins :D

And that's all for this hour or min or so

Stay tuned

cue theories or ads

[true grove]

Why are you keeping records

[icy spruce]

:)

[true grove]

[pale geyser]

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[icy spruce]

E

[cosmic quiver]

Ok, sorry everybody, my theory can have some text issues due to the copy paste from notes to here, but here it is

Well, the word limit on discord doesn't let me put the entire theory here....

So I'll make a doc

Here it is!

Everyone who wants, please read it and then say what you think

[icy spruce]

Oooo

[onyx lagoon]

Who is that girl in dreams

[cosmic quiver]

Also, please don't change anything, I'll correct the mistakes when the discussion finishes, and share the final version

[pale geyser]

Speak of the devil.

[onyx lagoon]

Devil is here

[cosmic quiver]

All I know is that she is a villager

[onyx lagoon]

Lol

[cosmic quiver]

The new hope of a dying village

[onyx lagoon]

Let the village die then

[cosmic quiver]

Anyone who ever lived in a small village understands

[onyx lagoon]

Spirits are already ded

Aren't they

[pale geyser]

She has a glamglam

[cosmic quiver]

I'm talking about the story itself

If they are dead or not I don't know, it's hard to say

[onyx lagoon]

Spirits are ded

Aren't they?

[icy spruce]

ye

[onyx lagoon]

Just memories of people who lived there once

[icy spruce]

ye

[cosmic quiver]

Right now they are light ethereal beings, we don't know how they were in the past, but I think that what we see are still living beings

[icy spruce]

hmm

anyways, chat got krilled

welcome back to

CHAT GOT KRILLED

Our contestant of the minute is Triskel

[cosmic quiver]

Yes, and now that I was hoping to have people commenting my theory!😭

[icy spruce]

Who's score is currently more than 1 min

[icy spruce]

Have a King Turret :D

[cosmic quiver]

😅

Ok

I'll go off now, I'll come back later to see if anyone said anything

If anyone says anything about it, please mention me or reply to a message of mine, so that I can see it clearly

[icy spruce]

Prairie connections with Earth element can be cause they prolly manufacture pots? And they gotta be strong? Or it's just they like earth like animals uh you get me right?

Sorry for ping

Also, I like your theory

Kinda agree with the yin and yang concept

[cosmic quiver]

Oohhhh, those are cool hipotesis, I'll ss the message. I'll see if anyone else talks a oh it and then I'll try to see.

[cosmic quiver]

Thank you! Anything you think should be changed?

[icy spruce]

Also, Eden wasn't built by the King. Since in the Prophecy mural you see the shiny boy (prolly King?) on top of a mountain with a beam which pretty much resembles Eden (Just, the big diamond isnt there since prolly wasn't there at the original)

But uh I guess that's all.

Nice theory still!

[cosmic quiver]

Wait, but that argument isn't in favor of eden being created by king?

[cosmic quiver]

Thank u!

[queen locust]

Mmkay- I really like how you put a lot of thought into this, even if it was a little hard to understand at time because of the misspellings. I like the yin and yang concept a lot too- balance is always important to consider

Tiny little nitpick on my end but Earth is green, not yellow

On that note, a possible connection you could use for Earth and Prairie is that Prairie is an agricultural realm- one of the SkyShop poems defines it as such, and even without the agricultural aspect you can see that in this realm, barely anything is automated, and they have professions that are done manually like Dock Workers and Shipwrights

It's probably a little much to say that the respective wisdoms are the only ways that the citizens could survive in their respective realms, but I can see where you're coming from

[cosmic quiver]

Thanks for the feedback

[queen locust]

If I'm understanding this right btw, you interpret the Eden Elder as an overwhelming force of yin?

[bitter shale]

someone said prairie?

[queen locust]

JKJAKJSKJAJSJK

WHERE EVEN

[bitter shale]

[icy spruce]

HI THIS IS A ROBBERY

HAND ME OVER YOUR MEME

[cosmic quiver]

I'm really sorry about it. I'm not a good English speaker and my phone's corretor turns my words into a mix of English and my native language. And I also hadn't reviewed the text properly, sorry

[cosmic quiver]

I'm robbing it too hhahahhahaha

[bitter shale]

its not mine fam-

[queen locust]

Ah- it's okay, at least I get where you're coming from a little more

English is a nightmare lmao

[icy spruce]

WELL HAND ME YOUR ITEM THAT YOU STOLE

[bitter shale]

im so r r y

[queen locust]

WAIT WHAT ARE THOSE L I P S

[bitter shale]

MANTA LI P S

[cosmic quiver]

The light in cave of prophecies is yellow, the air is the green one. As for the connections thanks, but and for the connection with the resilience?

[icy spruce]

AHAHHA

[queen locust]

Oh- Air is Cyan actually

[icy spruce]

Ye

[bitter shale]

air is light blue or cyan

[icy spruce]

Aqua

[livid valley]

It's something

[queen locust]

Here's a mural with yellow in it

[cosmic quiver]

Yes, I see, this is just one way of reading it, but I know that to survive in each realm there were more knowledges/powers needed than just the one said

[queen locust]

It's subtle, but the Earth Element is different

[bitter shale]

earth is yellow orange green

lime

tbh idk

[icy spruce]

I

[queen locust]

l i m e-

let me be extra and say it's chartreuse

[cosmic quiver]

No, the eden, or it's elder, is an overwhelming force of yang, the destructive power

[icy spruce]

what the Megan

[cosmic quiver]

d is the yin power

[queen locust]

Ah- so whoever completed the trials isn't the Eden Elder in this take or am I missing smthn

[lean stratus]

there's an Eden Elder? '-'

[icy spruce]

Ye

[queen locust]

Oh yeah- they're not around to be saved though

[icy spruce]

Eden used to have an Elder

[queen locust]

Exact dev words-

[lean stratus]

so we actually never saw him/her

[queen locust]

Nope- but we do have a few guesses as to who they might be

[true grove]

Doesn't this belongs in #sky-memes

[queen locust]

Guesses being the Prince and the King

I take it that you're new here, Blue?

[lean stratus]

i'm so lost in that part of the lore is there something that i can read abt that?

[cosmic quiver]

The one completing the trials was d, the one I guess that could be the king

[true grove]

Yes

[queen locust]

Oh definitely

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
HELLO NEW LORE MOFF- credits to Bricky
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit
CANON SKY LORE
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit
THE THEORY VAULT

[lean stratus]

i actually talk abt lore a lot with @cosmic quiver but never came here with much attention

[queen locust]

Here's some docs to get you caught up- I recommend starting with the lore moff doc XD

Ohhhh- whelp- welcome to lore chat then XD

[lean stratus]

ty! gonna try and save them sjsjs

tysm! ^^

[true grove]

Also check out all the pins they are great

[queen locust]

There's more in the pins if you want them- concept art, old beta Sky- what have you

[lean stratus]

uuhhh nice!

[queen locust]

Tis very okay to spoil- so long as we're not talking about current beta

Current beta is forbidden in this chat

[lean stratus]

oh np i don't know much abt current beta so i wont talk abt it xD

i just think that @cosmic quiver moment of greatness was thrown away by me unintentionally 😅

[cosmic quiver]

Oh, no, np, I wasn't a moment of greatness, I'm just discussing

[lean stratus]

yeah but was your theory right xD

[queen locust]

Aw hush- you put a lot of effort into that theory

[bitter shale]

yes

[queen locust]

It's alright tho- we can keep talking about that if you wanna

[lean stratus]

anyway i will absent myself bc obviously i don't know a lot abt the lore theories so i'll inform myself first and then come back here sjsjs ty for the help @queen locust ! ^^

[queen locust]

Aight see ya then- hope you enjoy the read XD

[cosmic quiver]

Well, yeah, I like it, since is the only theory that makes sense for me. But it's a very fluid theory, I changed it a lot thanks to @lean stratus , who constantly disagreed with everything I said...

[icy spruce]

I

[cosmic quiver]

However... I think you can be right. Another possibility that matches is that d, after the creation of the yin and the enchargement of elders to maintain it, became the eden/eden elder, ruling over the yang part by themselves. With this, the destruction known would be a try of d to restore the sore equilibrium.

[cosmic quiver]

You what? Sorry, I'm a bit slow thinker

[queen locust]

Oh that's a quirk of Chesca's- she really likes the letter I

and h

actually chesca you say it-

[icy spruce]

I

ok

[cosmic quiver]

Oh ok

[icy spruce]

So I like saying 'I' (with dash but my key broke so :( ) and 'h'.

Well, hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[queen locust]

oh oof- dashes are life-

anyway-

[icy spruce]

Thank you for sacrificing your dashed Viridi

*Dashes

[queen locust]

Wait I'm a little lost though, what exactly is the yin part of this Kingdom that you're referring to- and which one is the yang

Is the yang just Eden, and yin is everything outside of it, or?

Because all this time while I was reading the theory I just assumed the balance of yin and yang was offset somehow by d

[cosmic quiver]

The yin is what I call the d power, the power of unity between the entire race. It's the creative power, so it's everything outside eden

And the yang is eden itself

[cosmic quiver]

Eden could be probably created by d, but the balance need was already there, existed before this happenings, just like in the real world, the yin-yang is a natural law. If Eden was created by d, then they did it so that the other kingdoms could live, because with this yang power the yin would have a peaceful live in equilibrium.

[queen locust]

Ah- and here I was thinking the creation of Eden was where the balance broke- mmkay, gotcha

I gotta go get myself some dinner tho- I still really like the take in this theory even if I'm a little confused

brb gotta eat

[cosmic quiver]

No, the creation of eden was to maintain the balance, when it broke the yang power overwhelmed the yin and caused the destruction we see. After some time, the two forces found a way of balancing the world somehow. But the scars are still there, because every perturbation of the balance, even if it can be repaired, leaves scars.

Thanks for everything @queen locust, and good dinner!

[willow shoal]

[cosmic quiver]

So everyone, since this chat is now krilled, I will repost my theory tomorrow, in another hour, so that other aficionados can comment. Until then I'll try to make the text easier to read,and I'll add the opinions from @queen locust, @icy spruce and my own new possibilities in the end of the doc, so that the new readers can also see what was discussed until now. You two, please, if you don't want to be mentioned or just prefer your thoughts to be anonymous just say.

[icy spruce]

[icy spruce]

I wouldn't want to be mentioned.

[queen locust]

I'm down to be mentioned I guess but no guarantees I'll see it- I have a lot of catching up to do in school

[compact olive]

Theory... the diamond in the center of the mural at prophecy cave is not in reference to the diamond ♦️ above the 6 altars at Vault of knowledge..... but instead it depicts the arch ways in Vault and the diamond actually represent the diamond ♦️ in the belly of Eden (which it’s skyline is drawn right above it.)

[grand swift]

There are clouds right under it tho

In the mural

[cosmic quiver]

Can I talk about your ideas as anonymous then? Same for @icy spruce

Because I guess they should be mentioned too

[icy spruce]

wait what, I'm sorry but I have a tiny brain. uh, what do you mean?

[pale geyser]

Hello, and welcome tooo Chat Got Krilled. I am your host, Avis. Today, our contestant is Chesca, who is now a regular contestant on the show.

they now has a score of about ten minutes or so.

Well, that's um, IT. Make sure to tune back in after the break!

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[tender dune]

can u stop avis? this isnt #general-sky-discussion or #sky-memes

[compact olive]

The clouds under the mountain 🏔 in the top portion is to signify the mountain was high up close to orbit. But that mountain 🏔 was the foundation for the vault of knowledge and Eden city

[cosmic quiver]

I want to add what you said to the theory doc, so that other people can see it, do you want me to say it was an opinion from an anonymous person?

[queen locust]

Technically they aren't just mine so do what you like with them I guess

[teal orbit]

I am back

[queen locust]

man I had to scroll up for that one

also heya Pyre

[teal orbit]

What r we talking abt now?

[livid valley]

hi back im not dad
cough

uh alright whats the topic

[queen locust]

idk but there's a compilation of... something above that Oz sent

[teal orbit]

Link link linl

[queen locust]

Just scroll up a little, chat hasn't been active

[rugged barn]

Hi

[teal orbit]

Debunking is on the horizon...

[rugged barn]

So whatchu guys talk about?

[queen locust]

whatever this is now I guess- the diamond in Prophecy? the one in the last mural inside the mountain

[teal orbit]

No wait thats actually what i was thinking

Good job oz

We agree for once lol

[pale geyser]

oofers

[teal orbit]

Its not anymore

If we look down during ascension, u can see the top of vault

[queen locust]

With how the diamond's placed I'd agree too

[teal orbit]

So in game evidence supports oz's theory

[livid valley]

very nice

[compact olive]

Right at the summit of the beacon

[bitter shale]

this got me thinking. the ways of all elder statues surround the diamond... its like showing that the diamond is what unite them...

[teal orbit]

Omg this could be one of the most successful theory debuts of all time lmao

[queen locust]

But wait- those shrines were way the hell above where we find the diamond though

[teal orbit]

Nah

[queen locust]

Earlier Oz said that the diamond was in the belly of Eden right?

[bitter shale]

hol up hol up

my brain broken

[compact olive]

Viridi I have a theory about that

[bitter shale]

the diamond was in the belly of eden, right under the castle

[teal orbit]

We have been all thinking of vault as a tower cuz of Journey
But its IS a vault so i bet its like gringotts!!!

[queen locust]

Unless ya'll were suggesting that this thing WASN'T in the summit

[compact olive]

So when you hug child you fly through all of vault and Eden isn’t even there is blown to pieces in the sky

[bitter shale]

ohhh

oooh

i think i getvit now

[compact olive]

So when you first go through vault it’s the dream “perfect in tact” version but after the hug it’s the actual blown up in the Sky version

[bitter shale]

so the room when we hug the shiny boi is somewhere under the vault?

[queen locust]

I... don't, I need more context for that

Are you meaning to tell me that where we die isn't Eden or am I just interpreting it differently from you all

[bitter shale]

oh right, vault was located under the eden castle. when we fly up we got allusion that the six elder sttaues were the eye of the storm, but it actually didnt

[teal orbit]

Not so sure abt that one... tho i think the hug room is in orbit not vault

[bitter shale]

iirc it was located not exactly on the summit

[queen locust]

If it was on the summit we'd see the rest of the iconic Eden tiara

[bitter shale]

....man im not good at taking photos

[teal orbit]

Seecthe windows of vaylt's top level?

Dang typos

[queen locust]

Are we sure that the shrines were really Vault's to begin with, by the way?

[teal orbit]

See the windows of vault's top lvl?

[bitter shale]

yeah, it got the same architecture

[bitter shale]

....i give up

[teal orbit]

Yup

[queen locust]

That's not what I meant- what I meant was that were the shrines really in the Vault- the real one

[livid valley]

it does have the same design and stuff

but i dont think its connected to vault

[tender dune]

The square is where you see the storm / the big shrines before heading to orbit. enjoy

[icy spruce]

oh sure

Anyways, hallooo

What's this hour's topic?

[compact olive]

I believe there are two versions of each place. Eden and Vault. The dream state version and the real blown up version

[livid valley]

it maybe was the main throne at eden in the past but something occurred that make them move into vault

[teal orbit]

Huh... does that mean the eden castle is the blasyed off top part of vault?

Ohhhhhh

I think i got it now

[queen locust]

exactly how big do ya'll think Vault is, might I ask- because I think I'm missing large pieces of context here

and I mean the real one, not the projections

[teal orbit]

The original diamond unity shrine thing was in eden but it got blasted off so they built a reproduction in vault ig lol

As the top floor

And btw, vault is supposed to be HUGE

Like a labyrinth of info

[livid valley]

small

[queen locust]

I know it's supposed to be, but we don't know which floor of Vault we end up in once the cutscene ended

[teal orbit]

That parts we go to are prob just the elevator shaft i think

[tender dune]

i think its the same size as the projection we see tbh, you can see vault's size in comparison with the others in murals (ex in isle mural temple)

[teal orbit]

Thats not scaled

[queen locust]

This building behind me right here is the Vault that we exit from- entering Eden

[teal orbit]

And its more based on symbolism than real size and shape

The murals i mean

[icy spruce]

What's this hour's topic?

[teal orbit]

Vault and everything abt it

[queen locust]

I actually sort of agree that the real Vault around the same size as the projections- because you still hit walls at some point

[teal orbit]

Yes

[queen locust]

like flying up to the mega manta when it's stuck

[compact olive]

These are vault walls

[teal orbit]

Stuff that dont glow arent projections... they are the real deal

[tender dune]

obv its not irl scaled, i meant if you compare vault there with the other temples. you would notice it is small but tall, the others are more low and wide

[compact olive]

The broken archways

[queen locust]

that's... so high up in Ascension

[teal orbit]

Ik oz i thinl so too

[livid valley]

vaults builds are all the way up in space huh

[compact olive]

Yeah but the vault archways AND the alter at the top of vault is there even though it’s so high up in the ascension flight

[teal orbit]

So basically in eden, we r climbing vault again, but without the elevator

After all, we never get to see the outside of vault in vault

[compact olive]

You basically take a second tour through the place after you hug the child

[teal orbit]

Yes

[gentle sparrow]

[queen locust]

that- I don't know what to think of that take other than that I disagree-

thoroughly

[icy spruce]

Currently confused but ok

[teal orbit]

Yk how in harry potter harry dies and meets dumbledore in a weird place? I bet the prince hug place is like that...

Right?

The whole king's cross thing?

[queen locust]

King's Cross- Harry died and basically they're in a dream-version of the train station

[teal orbit]

The last book

Yes thank u virdi

[compact olive]

If you notice there’s no hint of the storm no mountain 🏔 no structures at all except for a see through floor and clouds when you hug the child of light

[gentle sparrow]

I think so too, but like..
Instead of dumbledore we are meeting with our own inner selves again

[compact olive]

I don’t think it represents an actual physical location

[gentle sparrow]

I have been away from this chat for a long time

[queen locust]

i haven't but I'm so confused

because that implies that there's a third version of Vault

and it was already a hell of a pain trying to rationalize the dream-like state of the blue Vault the first million times

[compact olive]

lol

[teal orbit]

ok im back

[livid valley]

or it can be vault being built to space
sounds ridiculous impossible

[queen locust]

i still disagree but I'm going to need to find myself some way to articulate WHY

[teal orbit]

with my trusty bibledoc by my side, i shall be invincible

[gentle sparrow]

stupid idea of mine but I think those are more like our memories

[queen locust]

i- what in the canon lore doc would support anything that you and Oz just went over, pray tell

[teal orbit]

nothing

its just for emotional support

hahahaha

[gentle sparrow]

[tender dune]

Oz did say its a theory

[teal orbit]

ik

[compact olive]

True

[gentle sparrow]

yes

[icy spruce]

confusion intesifies

[compact olive]

So I pose this question to you all

[teal orbit]

good news is i have a simple solution to all this lol

text block coming up in a bit

[livid valley]

wha oh a text block oh man

[compact olive]

Why is there only 2 versions of the 6 stoned altar (vault and ascension) built literally on top of each other (vault and Eden) ?

[gentle sparrow]

Uuuh
I have only and 0nly one question (not lore related)
Do you guys remember me?...

[icy spruce]

ye

[compact olive]

Hi sana

[queen locust]

Somewhat but it's still good to see ya

[icy spruce]

I like: saw you last time 3 or 4 days ago

oh the grammar

[gentle sparrow]

I was a kind of regular here before

[queen locust]

Because one of them might be a projection and is possibly not real? is my guess?

[tender dune]

so was i

[livid valley]

its been too long i have forgotten

[icy spruce]

I

[gentle sparrow]

You and bricky were quite famous with a few others

[tender dune]

either one is a dream and the other is real. or maybe they made a smaller one like a replica. for what. who knows

[tender dune]

tbh im not that active here anymore because of the way lore chat is, it makes me more discouraged to share my theories and findings..

[queen locust]

there was a pic of someone landing on the one up Ascension- the Vault shrines were tiny compared to those gargantuan things

[compact olive]

They’re both the same size

[tender dune]

it was momo iirc

the ascension ones did in fact appear big

[queen locust]

The Ascension ones feel more like thrones than actual shrines if those were how they actually were

[tender dune]

is it possible that they're graves?

[teal orbit]

so.. think of vault as a sky scraper... it has numerous basements and it reaches above the clouds. in the vault of knowledge, we climb to the middle with the elevator but we never realize we r above cloud lvl cuz vault has no windows except for the middle...
then when we go up eden, we r climbing that same place...
when we ascend tho, we are going up the upper half... (u see, vault is cut in half)
there used to be a meeting room (the elders' shrines (the one thats all tipped and destroyed)) but it got out of limits after vault was sliced in half
so they built an identical meeting room in the middle floors but it was not as big as it used to be and a bit cramped cuz they had to build on a small island...

[compact olive]

That’s an interesting thought... graves

[teal orbit]

ikr?

hahahaha

[hushed steeple]

YO BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE 🥺🥺🥺

[gentle sparrow]

I do remember the first message of Pyre in this chat

[teal orbit]

have i... reached that level... of fame yet?

[teal orbit]

wut was it? i dont even remember...

[gentle sparrow]

you quite did 👀

[teal orbit]

haha yes!

[hazy pawn]

HUh

[teal orbit]

i did it!

[livid valley]

yay

[gentle sparrow]

Not famous as bricky but yes, you did

[teal orbit]

bricky is untouchable

this is enough lol

ok back to lore

[gentle sparrow]

lol

[hushed steeple]

uhm so uhm
i’m curious of who the warriors of battlefield were
how could they lift such mighty swords?
did they all band together and use telepathy? are the spirits much larger than how we see them? and if so... how great were the elders?? were they mighty giants powerful enough to battle the krill? or were the swords there from something greater... slain by the krill but slowly devoured by them like vultures
are the krill just remnants of all that once was?? or have they been there much longer than we know

[teal orbit]

i will be back in a bit with a tiny pic of what vault llooks like in my mind...

[livid valley]

or they could be just as big and strong as the elder

[hazy pawn]

Every time I try to go back to old messages it’s 24 hrs of the same date messages.

[queen locust]

i have several questions regarding that vault skyscraper thing and it frustrates me that I can't propery articulate any of them

[teal orbit]

laughs in uruk hai

[hushed steeple]

that’s what i am wondering
how grand were the elders

[gentle sparrow]

The wasteland elder was a mighty warrior, some say

[verbal egret]

is vault a skyscraper or we actually get to the space?

[hushed steeple]

i’m going to be honest i have absolutely no idea what that means

[keen kettle]

Been a while since I came here.

[gentle sparrow]

He fought with his whale, they say

[queen locust]

Aw heck is it a lore chat reunion-

Heya Lime

[livid valley]

i have a problem with this too how do they make that high gravity exist im pretty sure

[queen locust]

thanks for helping me with one of many confuzzles Dream-

[gentle sparrow]

He was invincible, they say

[gentle sparrow]

AAAA LIMEEE

[keen kettle]

Aaaaa!

[tender dune]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[livid valley]

when did they say that

[pseudo heart]

Howdee

[livid valley]

howdee ali

[queen locust]

the giant spirits are real holy

[hushed steeple]

i’m curious about eden.
has it always been there... or did jr come up more recently, devastating the world of the spirits
are we children of an apocalypse? all that is left after the collapse of society??
how long has rhis darkness existed.
was it slow? infecting throughout the realms before it became too much of a problem for the spirits to handle alone? or did it come quickly and crush their worlds in one blow

[gentle sparrow]

:o

[keen kettle]

Music sheet 18 is the same track thatbplays in office.

[queen locust]

every time I see that tidbit I just-

giant spirits

spirits dipped in tall potions

[hushed steeple]

I KNEW IT
HAHABDJDBDNDN

giant spirits giant spirits giant spirits

i can tell kat now omg!!!!!

brbebbrbdbz

[livid valley]

lol-

[keen kettle]

Growth spur

[tender dune]

i guess it will explain the huge potions we can find in enchantment shops

[queen locust]

they were all baptized in them-

[keen kettle]

But what about tiny potions?

[pseudo heart]

MAYBE

CHIBI MASK WEARER

[gentle sparrow]

Lmao

[tender dune]

she was tall thought very tall

[hushed steeple]

not bringing christianity into this 😭😭

[pseudo heart]

But when they remove that chibi mask they become warrior sized

[keen kettle]

Maybe they stretched everymorning

[livid valley]

does that supports that height magic dosent effect em

[queen locust]

like... yoga stretched or were tied to the bedpost like you're in the inquisition stretched

because I might need to try both-

[keen kettle]

That explains catapult in gw

Medieval spirits

[hushed steeple]

i’m actuslly betting they were always that big, their children slowly getting much smaller until they were our height

[gentle sparrow]

[hushed steeple]

IF THEY WERE THAT LARGE... WHAY IF THE STATUES IN VALLEY ARE ACTUALLY PETRIFIED ELDERS

JFJVJHYFGH

[keen kettle]

What statues in eye of eden are petrified elders.

[hushed steeple]

👁👁👁

[queen locust]

dear Megan

[pseudo heart]

Okay but

[keen kettle]

Petrified Megan

[hushed steeple]

omg please i’m totally drawing art of big elders fighting krill

[gentle sparrow]

WHAT IF ONE OF THE KING STATUES IN GW IS THE ACTUAL KING

[queen locust]

I MEAN

[gentle sparrow]

[hushed steeple]

HDBDJDNS WHAT IF ALL THE STATUES ARE JUST REMNANTS OF OUR ELDERS

WAIT.

[keen kettle]

What if king is just one of the crabs?

[tender dune]

keep it calm guys

[hushed steeple]

EVERY SINGLE SPIRIT WE SEE JS ASH RIGHT??

an ash statue

[livid valley]

i-

[queen locust]

King's so HUGE that one of those statues could be him like

[gentle sparrow]

YES

[keen kettle]

King is the mountain

[pseudo heart]

King reincarnated into kreb

I like the idea

[keen kettle]

King creb

[pseudo heart]

Krebules

gasp

THE KREB STATUE UNDER DREAMS

[keen kettle]

I habs to go, bbye!

[livid valley]

bye lime

[queen locust]

Me too- it's a school night

[hushed steeple]

what if that is the way sky respects their dead
not burial or anything... but they make statues of them

[gentle sparrow]

Should i write a crack fanfic about "How i turned into a kreb? The Adventures of the Reincarnated King"

[queen locust]

my eyes are burning with theories and homework- nighty night lore chat-

[teal orbit]

ok folks, the map is done!!!!!

[hushed steeple]

so that they may be respected eternally

[teal orbit]

behold

[pseudo heart]

😭😭😭😭 I'm on dark mode dhhwhd

Hold up

[icy spruce]

back, wha' happenin'

[grand swift]

What did eden look like before the storm

[teal orbit]

better visiblity

[hushed steeple]

me here like: what if all statues are just the actual spirits and they are turned into statues as a sign of respect for the dead
hence why we see all spirits as the memory of statues we have r melt darkness off of out of respect

[teal orbit]

get it now?

[hidden scaffold]

hey thats actually kinda interesting, eden entrance might even be at a higher elevation so the highest floor is connected to the mountain top

[pseudo heart]

Ah yes

[livid valley]

did someone flashbanged you

[pseudo heart]

Eden shrine

[gentle sparrow]

Hold up
What about the void-y place after the elder cutscene that gives you the option to go either home or eden

[teal orbit]

the original meeting room

limbo prob

[gentle sparrow]

[teal orbit]

or somewhere inside vault

we dont know

[pseudo heart]

Okay but

[hushed steeple]

so do you think the eye of eden got corrupted suddenly and destroyed all this or it was slow destruction and turmoil until eden became what it is now

[gentle sparrow]

We will never know

[teal orbit]

original meeting room

[grand swift]

Maybe the elders sat in their respective statues

[teal orbit]

yes

[pseudo heart]

I don't think eden is just one clean sloped mountain

[grand swift]

Why is vault in the middle tho

[teal orbit]

or maybe they were smart abt it and used zoom....

[grand swift]

Hm

[icy spruce]

what is happening- I-

[hushed steeple]

omg and maybe their spirits were preserved in those statues when they died
and that’s why you have to meditate with their statues at the end of a realm... as a sign of respect their spirits show you their memories

[grand swift]

More screenshots

[teal orbit]

lamed designed it... all elders are narcissistic in some way or another lol

[hushed steeple]

#screenshots-and-videos 👁

[livid valley]

eye

[icy spruce]

eye

[teal orbit]

HERESY DETECTED HERESY DETECTED

[livid valley]

this is very high

how did they made it

[tender dune]

it was detached and flew into space

due to the said explosion

[hushed steeple]

i’m going to be on board with this theory that statues are actually the preserved spirits of elders until i am given a theory stating otherwise 😭

[hushed steeple]

:)??

[queen locust]

this was not worth staying up late for

[grand swift]

This is my best screenshot

[queen locust]

Why call it heresy

[hushed steeple]

all i wanna do
is see u turn into
a giant spirit
a giant spirit

[teal orbit]

elders arent dead...

[hushed steeple]

it means it’s against christianity...
i’d think on a sky server ya wouldn’t have to worry about that but yknow

[teal orbit]

let me find that quote...

[hushed steeple]

they aren’t ? 👄

[livid valley]

a building being exploded and the top being shot up sounds very very unlikely

[teal orbit]

holy megan thats good

[queen locust]

Then jesus don't call it heresy just explain it

[livid valley]

the explosion is very big since it affected many realms

[teal orbit]

then it wouldnt be fun...

[grand swift]

Why are the rocks coming from the side

[livid valley]

rock launcher

[hushed steeple]

i’m not christian luv i’m a heretic by nature but carry on

[queen locust]

It already isn't fun for others if you act like that you know

[pseudo heart]

I think

The statues? Shrines of theirs

[queen locust]

Good night for real

[pseudo heart]

Are meant to hold uhhh,, not their souls but uhmmmm at least a part of them. Like how the graves in the social areas do

[teal orbit]

those spirits ARE dead... hence spirits...

[hushed steeple]

i’m currently just thinking about the giant spirits
protecting the smaller, weaker spirits who could not fight
fending off the great darkness while they still could
fighting on throughout time in a hopeless fight defending the rest of the realms from the darkness
they knew they could not win... but they fought on for the sake of all of sky
for the sake of their children and their grandchildren

[hidden scaffold]

eh... spirits get a physical medium so we can summon them i think

its kinda common

[pseudo heart]

Ye that

[hushed steeple]

bro #screenshots-and-videos there’s a whole chat for these bb 🥺

[grand swift]

I know but why not here

[hushed steeple]

because rhis is the?? lore chat???

[teal orbit]

all the quotes always talk abt the elders in present tense and they say the king is ACTIVELY contributing to sky rn, so we can be sure the elders arent dead lol

[hushed steeple]

goodnight luv ^^

[hushed steeple]

they can be doing so in spirit?

[pseudo heart]

I'm not saying the elders are dead lmao

[icy spruce]

ik

[teal orbit]

no no i was looking for a quote

[young lance]

I'm confused

[teal orbit]

i wanted to be sure

[livid valley]

hi confused im not dad

[pseudo heart]

Welcome to the lore chat

[hushed steeple]

i am dad hello confused

[icy spruce]

Hi Confused, I'm Chesca

[icy spruce]

how dare you steal a quote I stole

:(

[vast latch]

But Chesca... You ARE confused

[hushed steeple]

Anyways uhm
✨ giant spirits ✨

[icy spruce]

No, it's actually Confusion

[young lance]

（ ・∀・）???

[teal orbit]

ok giant spirits

[livid valley]

sips giant potiotn

[teal orbit]

let the kids have their fun, spire

[hushed steeple]

i’m curious to hear all your theories on how long the darkness has been here and how it infected the world of sky
did it do so in one blow??

[teal orbit]

they will join hwne they wanna lol

[hushed steeple]

was it slow or was it sudden

[teal orbit]

ahahaha i see you have made first contact with dust...

[pseudo heart]

LUH

[hushed steeple]

:)??

[teal orbit]

when creatures are being formed by megan out of light, they are neutral.
during this state, if they are exposed to dust, they are created as dark creatures
if they are exposed to stasis sparks, they become light creatures
if they are exposed to nothing, they become neutral
dust is parasitic. it eats up the light inside a creature and makes it constantly hungry, forcing it to be carnivorous, and hunt for external sources of light.
stasis sparks create light a lot and sustain both the light creature and the stasis sparks, and in return, the light creature takes stasis sparks to other places
neutral creatures consume small amounts of light, or none at all and usually consume organic matter.

ok there is the darkness thing u were asking abt

[hushed steeple]

m- megan?? wait who is megan

[vast latch]

Megabird

[teal orbit]

the megabird

[hushed steeple]

what

[teal orbit]

the one we all serve

[vast latch]

Ali, english only

[pseudo heart]

:D

WRONG SERVER

[vast latch]

OOP

[icy spruce]

I hear, there's a fight

[vast latch]

Uh... Scroll up I think?

[hushed steeple]

i’m so confused right now who is the megabird

[teal orbit]

the god

[hushed steeple]

I have arrived with Alif, whats happening-

[pseudo heart]

Uhm

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

[icy spruce]

A god/deity of Sky

[pseudo heart]

:D??

[hushed steeple]

oh thank you

[teal orbit]

imagine a christian god with the personality of zeus...

[hushed steeple]

E

[icy spruce]

Alif, what's happening. Tell ussssss

[hushed steeple]

i am not christian pyre

[teal orbit]

me neither

[hushed steeple]

i don’t know the christian god

[hushed steeple]

Thats a great way to put it.

i’m pagan... idk what to tell you bud

I was buddhist-

[icy spruce]

Cool

OKAY LORE

[hushed steeple]

is this doc pinned or do i have to hope the chat don’t move too fast

[icy spruce]

NO RELIGIONS AND STUFF

LORE

[hushed steeple]

I just came what

[teal orbit]

but u must know the all knowing all loving all powerful thing
im an agnostic...

[hushed steeple]

there is a god in lore???

[teal orbit]

yup

[hushed steeple]

What is happening aaaaaaaaaa

[icy spruce]

dunno mate

[pseudo heart]

Eeee

[teal orbit]

yeah...

[icy spruce]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[hushed steeple]

Whats HAPPENING

[icy spruce]

Anyone sacrifice their dashes to me? Thanks.

[teal orbit]

lore chat is on fiiiirrrrreeee

[pseudo heart]

the moff doc ain't pinned iirc

[hushed steeple]

bud i don’t believe in one single god
please stop inserting christianity into this channel it’s kinda making me uncomfortable...

[teal orbit]

omg its the promo again

[hushed steeple]

LITERALLY?!???

[young lance]

Why are you guys talking about religion this is supposed to be lore

PLEASEBDIDJDID

[teal orbit]

oh god oh god we might get muted

i mean slow mo`d

[icy spruce]

Thank you kind person

[hushed steeple]

I JUST CAME HERE WHAT.

[vast latch]

Do I need to send the moff doc for someoenM

[hushed steeple]

because there is a god in lore and we were discussing that so religion by association got brought up

[young lance]

OH

OH OKAY

[teal orbit]

now im scared

[young lance]

I’m scared too

[icy spruce]

Uh, lore chat seems to be abit chaotic

So, adieu

[young lance]

Adios

[teal orbit]

lets get back to vault shall we?

[hushed steeple]

it’s fine
i just got uncomfortable cuz pyre kept bringing up christianity here when it wasnt?? necessary??
we talking about the sky gods not the christian ones luv 😭😭

[pseudo heart]

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

H

Whoops

[teal orbit]

god singular... there is only one god in sky except maybe karen but we dont know for sure

[vast latch]

I think Pyre was trying to connect megan to the christian god so it would make more sense?

[icy spruce]

I-

[vast latch]

Pyre was explaining what is the Megabird to someone, that's all I remembered

[teal orbit]

it doesnt really matter which god but thats the one i figured everyone would know best...

[hidden scaffold]

i guess its safe to loosely talk abt lore on religion, but its not ultimately that

[hushed steeple]

i don’t believe in a christian god and i mentioned that and the concept kept getting pushed
please jdbdndn i know what gods are i just didn’t know there were sky gods until now

[hidden scaffold]

either way some sources of the art in sky have to do with real life rituals/places so. (very very loosely)

[pseudo heart]

Megabird is basically Sky's deity that also seemed to have sent the skykids down too. She was a a big thing in Sky's old concepts but now we don't know how much of her has gotten into live

There. Megabird without involving religion

[hidden scaffold]

nice mate

[hushed steeple]

i didn’t see much of her in live so i assume... likely very little actually did
is that why we have creatures such as that big worm thing or the mantas??

[vast latch]

You can say that

She is the creator of the light creatures I assume

[pseudo heart]

Yea

[hushed steeple]

oop i gotta go now
school is starting

[icy spruce]

oh ok

[vast latch]

Not sure about crabs and krills and whales/tuna king though

Okie

[icy spruce]

Bye, good luck on school

[hushed steeple]

thanks
byee!! see y’all later!

[teal orbit]

hello im back

[pseudo heart]

Hello back im Ali

[young lance]

Hello Ali I’m aff

[vast latch]

Hello aff I'm Alif

[icy spruce]

Hello Alif, I'm Chesca

[livid valley]

hello Chesca lets all get back to lore

[icy spruce]

OK

oop, caps

[teal orbit]

hahaha cuz of all the G`s?

[graceful osprey]

i think tuna king/whale are at least part light. They ascend too

[teal orbit]

Hmmm

Part light... i wonder if that could be possible...

[graceful osprey]

there heads are made of charcoal and are drained of light?

but the rest of them is light

[vast latch]

Every big dark plant gives less than a full cape power

I always assumed it's just a gameplay error

Maybe

[icy spruce]

and welcome back tooooo....

CHAT GOT KRILLED

Today's contestant is Boop

Who krilled the chat for I aint gonna count how many mins or hours but A LOT of mins

[rose gorge]

I think that’s 2 hours and six minutes

but

Math hard

[lethal stump]

1 hour and 16 minutes

[rose gorge]

I was only off by
a lot

[icy spruce]

oh thanks

[pale geyser]

formoreinformationpleasevisit www.kingpropaganda.com oryourlocalshop

[icy spruce]

I

[wheat cypress]

Now I wonder, since the ascension part of Eden is mostly automatic, you barely have to control your skid so what driving force that large could possibly deliver all these skids to the exact same place? It's like the transportation itself is smart

Could more likely someone be bringing us to orbit?

Someone who can take the form of wind for example

Possibly Megabird? Although this character is extremely vague

How much do we even know about Megabird?

the chat today

[icy spruce]

ye :(

[wind bone]

Hello lore friends I'd like to bring attention to a few things regarding some behavior we’ve seen taking root and spilling out of this channel:

The lore channel is not about finding out what is canon and what isn't. The devs have said hundreds of times that the details of the story are open ended so that players can see it through many different interpretations and have fun theorizing with others. That should also be the spirit of this channel.

With this in mind, please keep the inside jokes and fanon names to a minimum. To be clear, please stop referring to Sky elders with their old concept Hebrew names and referring to the megabird as "Megan". These things often mentioned here are either fan-based or scrapped long ago during development—even most of the devs don’t know the reference. This causes a lot of confusion for newcomers, while only a small group of players can understand and participate in what is being said. Those inside jokes are best saved for private group DMs rather than a huge public server.

Please try not to overwhelm new people by asking them to first read documents about other theories as well. This is a thread for fun, casual conversation, and giving people the impression that they have to read many pages on another website in order to participate does not create a welcoming environment.

Shooting other people's theories down because you disagree with them, or simply because it's "not canon", won't be tolerated. We hope everyone can contribute to taking a step back from taking the lore so seriously so we can all have some fun no matter what Sky topic is being talked about

[true grove]

Does anyone know what that factory looking building in the background is

[lethal stump]

its commonly theorized to be a factory, although we dont know for sure

[sacred rapids]

in my moth days I thought it was eden but of course my moth days weren't the smartest time of my sky time

[delicate agate]

I thought the isle temple as the eden in my moth days

anyway i just found that the diamond thing in eden is actually giant darkness cristal

maybe?????

[pale geyser]

lmao last paragraph sounds familiar

[wind bone]

Yes because I said it last night

[wheat cypress]

Regarding the 4th paragraph funnily enough I quite enjoyed being overwhelmed 🙃

But yeah I understand what you mean

[crude olive]

If it’s a darkness crystal

then why does it glow

checkmate

[pale geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-seizure-seizure-black-guy-shocked-shocked-gif-16524517

[unique dagger]

it glows darkness

[wind bone]

You may have enjoyed it but there has been a lot of people stating how unwelcoming the channel has become which is why I’ve pinned this statement

[hushed steeple]

the elders old names were hebrew?? 🥺 omg that’s adorable

[wheat cypress]

Understandable 👍

[hushed steeple]

also i was in school and thought about this channel because i saw this quote on the wall that said “darkness cannot get rid of darkness. only light can.”

[wheat cypress]

I was only explaining my personal experience I didn't mean to undermine anyone elses

[pale geyser]

Idk, i've never seen anyone on this chat do anything unwelcoming

[crimson cosmos]

Thank you!! I’m a moth and I’ve been scared to participate in this channel despite having ideas, I’m glad you said this

[hushed steeple]

i mean someone screamed heresy at me this morning so

[wheat cypress]

Dude that's just

[hushed steeple]

cuz i didn’t know about the document or anything and i had the idea that if giant spirits existed... maybe the statues would be actual petrified forms of the elders as their unique way of honoring their dead

jdbdjdnkd yeah😭

[wind bone]

Let’s not name drop people! If someone is making you uncomfortable please drop a message in #contact-the-mods

[wheat cypress]

Wow

[wind bone]

I’m sorry that we didn’t put out this statement sooner and the channel has gotten to this point

[hushed steeple]

i thought it would be interesting cuz all we see of spirits in games is statues of them covered in darkness... and once we cleared the darkness the spirits would offer us their memories
and well- giant statues- sooo

[hushed steeple]

it’s alright! doing it late is better than not doing it at all 🥺

[wheat cypress]

Interesting

[hushed steeple]

it might not make the most sense but even if not a possibility... i thought it was a cool concept nonetheless

[wheat cypress]

Yeah 🤔

[hushed steeple]

also this entire time i’ve been thinking that children of light are made of starlight
idk if it’s true but i mean 🥺🥺

[crimson cosmos]

I have a theory that’s a joke between me and a friend, we were joking that the skykids could actually be an invasive species of plant since they use photosynthesis (gain energy from light), the reborn feature is kinda like some plants, and we go around destroying other plants so that’s the invasive part XD

[crimson cosmos]

I love that!!

[wheat cypress]

Lolllll ur right Fae that is strikingly similar 😅

[hushed steeple]

omg ty!! 🥺🥺
i actually thought it was canon for a while because of the way they portrayed spirits and light (especially on the glyphs in isle of dawn) but like apparently idk according to some it may not be?? i still like to believe it tho

[crimson cosmos]

Half my brain: Skykids are beautiful creatures of light
Other half: INVASIVE PLANT SPECIES

[wheat cypress]

Plot twist, we are plants

Lol

[crimson cosmos]

I’ve always thought of the skykids as made of stardust, or at least their wings. It just makes sense to me