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( especially when it comes to how excited the Isle Lightseeker is the moment they enter through the tunnel that leads to the three orbs shrine. Plus both of them wear very similar cape style sooo ๐)
Whatchu guys talking about?
most likely the light seekers were a secret task force assembled by the vault of knowledge to locate and retrieve the lights found in each realm for the containment of the essence of various elements, which would in time, allow them to create the enchantment lights
[Animal Classification in Sky]
^ also can anyone pin that?
What is dust-compatible?
Hi wassup-
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u remember the symbiosis theory?
The what?
when creatures are being formed by megan out of light, they are neutral.
during this state, if they are exposed to dust, they are created as dark creatures
if they are exposed to stasis sparks, they become light creatures
if they are exposed to nothing, they become neutral
dust is parasitic. it eats up the light inside a creature and makes it constantly hungry, forcing it to be carnivorous, and hunt for external sources of light.
stasis sparks create light a lot and sustain both the light creature and the stasis sparks, and in return, the light creature takes stasis sparks to other places
neutral creatures consume small amounts of light, or none at all and usually consume organic matter.
that ^
Oh
the symbiosis theory
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I mean it would make sense for the Lightseekers to have relations with those of the Vault of Knowledge and especially of the Enchantment fellas ( since you can see murals of the light seekers in the Forgotten Ark )
I was checking other channel
It matches with my ark theory too- ovo
Im kinda bored u.u
phone heatin up ( plus itโs hot down here ) so may need to skedaddle to different device hhh
Oof
Just a quick thought
Do you guys know the saying,
"Let's watch the sun die." Or something like that when someone is referring to a sunset and then the sun "rebirths" in the morning once it rises 
No, idk that saying lol
Oh ok, I was just lurking around here. Love reading all your theories here on this channel 
so I was looking for elder concept art
Lol
Is that prairie or wasteland elder? 
Maybe even forest? 
Me too-
Itโs ayin the prairie elder
"Hello there."
reminds me of rouxles card from deltarune 
To me, Teth is easily recognised in all the concept arts and i cannot accept that as Teth-
DELTARUNE
"Paint me like one of your French girls"
I mean, undertale
Lmao
ugh, i cannot embed for the life of me
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TODAY WE HAVE AVIS WITH 2 MINUTES
Why does every chat die easily when I'm around?
I am a regular contestant on this show, yes
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Its a ritual we do whenever chat gets deader than a snicker
I still feel sad for the skid I saw on my candle run...
He was bringing someone with him. All three of us are burning battlefield tree and this person the guy brought kept following him
Which means the plant regenerate again and again
The skid I met was asking the other one to stay but the guy kept following him
Why is every chat I see is ded?
THANK YOU, I'M BUSY AT THE SAME TIME KRILL YOU
Let's try that
yay
Eirlu, the ANGEL OF DEATH
Wait what is happening
no idea
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^ chhose a font, @rugged barn
Lmao
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lmao
Second one
ummm @rugged barn... "destroyer of worlds" is a title... like "slayer of dragons"... its not smth u change
but this doesnt matter i just thought u should know
what
Its not if im here, ill keep talking to myself but i was walking on the road just now so yea-
Thanks
So any new lores then?
Eh
Mhm
What
Visible confusion
lets figure out the roles of each in a standard horizonian army
I mean, visible Chesca
no no IN SKY
Lmao
Spear?
sure
Sorry was too affected by the other game I played
Have we ever see any other weapon in sky?
I d k
lets see.... we got uruk hai scimitars...
this is random but we shouldnโt be sleeping on the spirit bug while it exists
E
we can see some valuable stuff
um...
there they go again...
Is there any bows exist in sky?
nah
What
If i have to think about gw one more time in this week, my brain will explode-
i think the staffs take care of ranged attacks
Why isn't there many weapons in sky?
Cause yes
It would have been fun for reference
Forgive me I like seeing some weapons design for my story
And then making my own weapon design
the spirit bug could be patched out of nowhere
this is very valuable
to sum it all up, cleavers, spears, sledge hammers, laser turrets, multi purpose staffs, and flat lightsabers are the only weapons in sky
its also why we dont go into beta
if its a bug, its not lore
most likely
teth is one of the most aggressive elders
ok now lets find the roles each of the weapons play in a standard horizonian army
guys...
Yes?
It was old spirits, although its a bug. It could be lore
ok then...
there is very little spirit lore Iโm starving
are we abandoning our valuable military time for a rare, valuable bug? u guys decide
I think military is good
me 2
Did some one say โLoreโ?!!!
your stuff is more important Iโm just a spirit obsessed idiot who likes them much much more than she should
imma out
So continue the lore. Pyre?
ok so im back
Welcome back
spears prob were part of phalanxes, given its abundance
But I think the deadliest weapon was the mind

Have you ever seen Akira?
guys... we are going off topic
They could use dark stones too lift things with their minds.... they could certainly crush people with a bubble of force like in Akira
If sky have mage or some sort, I wonder what kind of deadly spell they do?
Since they do have multi purpose staff
well.. most spells were conducted with their staffs, which can control animals, shoot fireworks, catch light, and some type of energy based attack
Canโt the staff also use mind control?
I think those are two different things...
The elder of isle uses The staff to direct birds where to go
Pyre? You alive?
telekinesis was possible without the staffs too
Oh you're alive
im trying to find out which type of sword the swords in sky are so plz continue the staff discussion while i research lol
Eirlu what makes you think they are different ?
Well, telekinesis use energy focusing on the mind
What I think of mind control usually don't use staff...
I usually picture it as using mind energy to control someone or something
Aa, this don't make sense...
I want to speak but itโd be interrupting you but I have nothing to contribute
Do you think the elder used telekinesis to direct the birds?
Popcorn

I donโt think they are the same power like the staff is controling the light or something? but telekinesis is a bit different
The birds went to the direction the staff is right?
AAA, I can't explain it properly
i think i got it?
Yes the birds follow the light of the staff
the closest i got is a falchion sword
Isle elder guided them to eden
Something I realize with the light creatures follow lights
Yes but why would the birds follow the direction of the staff? Weโre they just hungry for the light the elder shot out and then kept flying in that direction without catching the light and continued to fly and fly with no real purpose ?
Maybe they sensed the light the isle elder staff had and decided to follow it
An what-
I think they just follow the light
But they keep on flying passed the light
And Uruk hai is an Orc of Lord of the Rings
Idk about that one
why-
I think he sent them to eden for energy extraction
Sent them.
Hi
Mind control ?
Or did they went to orbit?
prob not
Im pretty sure theyre showing you the way
Maybe telepathy?
In isle, the birds are showing us the way maybe these birds are showing the way too
...
They are just a guide...
But the staff was used. Perhaps this is an ability of the staff
Perhaps
Perhaps.
Perhaps its the ability of the Elder?
They go in pipes then reappear in orbit iirc
Yep they are guides
Its like the bells, the bells direct the mantas. Thats not an ability of Ayin's is it?
the birds fly straight into the forest temple so i think normal spirits can manipulate bird migration paths too
Well we know the elder may have been a normal powerless ancestor before being given a dark stone
no
Nah
orthodox canon does not agree
The elders have their own powers
I donโt think an Elder is powerless
Oh wrong one
Maybe the isle have telepathy power?
Orthodox canon is whatever made it into the game right?
Or maybe all the elder have telepathy power?
elders and ancestors are different species according to the devs
Maybe they communicate with each other using it?
Explain?
faunapathy... i think
Yes the dark stones changed them
Just like krill and creatures of light are different species but have the same origin
no, orthodox canon is what the devs confirmed in the lives streams and stuff
I think they do
the forest elder forges a diamond
In some of the realms, there are creatures of light. Maybe they could use them in any way?
Forest temple is a diamond factory-
elders and ancestors are completely different species (confirmed)
And also the birds in prairie is always heading to the temple even though they are not on a straight routes
Pyre is there a video link you could share that has the devs saying that? I wanna see
Maybe they could summon them...
What if those are the birds from isle, showing a path for you to head to the light
Maybe
Theyre showing you the way probably?
Listen, I don't have a proper theory
I think so
I was just saying what I was thinking...
Can you get into Eden via those pipes?
I was just saying what i was thinking too-
Those birds are very misleading guides if not
They probably need a safer way
Here's a collection of live streams
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=drivesdk
I'm not use to making theory
Okay thereโs like a thousand hours of video is there a specific dev that says it or a time stamp I can look for Yash?
Forgive me if my theory is pretty bad

I'll read the highlights 
At least it not another gw theory again, i really do not wish to work on gw xD
Hallo mein freunds
Is it too stressful?
Hello,
V e r y
Oop-
The only reason I ask is there was once a time when someone thought something was dev confirmed and after hours of s cowering the live streams there was no such claim made by the devs or it was greatly misinterpreted
what
Don't forget to have your rest as well
what is this hour's topic?
Birds
cool
We were talking about birds
Maybe the birds are just a symbol of the light and the path we should take?
It started from the isle elder cutscene
Yea, they be da guides-
In murals, isle elder used to guide ancestors with mantas.
It could be that he be guiding us
The reason for th bird topic was stemming from the elder in isle who sends them to Eden but was it his power? The power of the staff? Or their general inclination to always head for the holy land ?
There are little statues of birds showing the way in praire
so, what about birbs
The statues of birds are statues of Megabird
Oh
There are murals in isle during 2 of the spirit memories
That is isle elder showing the way
With some form of light creature
Yes In the murals he is using a staff
I don't pay attention to the murals...

Did you find it Pyre?
nah
I think I skipped most of it on my moff days
But either way, thats what the isle elder does. Show the way.
Yes Ani, but do the birds follow his commands? The commands of his staff? Or their natural directional sense to orbit for reincarnation?
Woah this isle elder bird theory thing matches with my
Tearful light miner = spirit from pointing spirit memory
And
Skater girl = girl from pointing spirit memory
Theory
Mantas too, in the murals
Itll be a mystery because i have no evidence for either sides.
Okay I just want some witnesses to be here for this one
Ok
There is so far no evidence that Elders are different species than ancestors.
Thereโs a reason this is important
So do i-?
me too
if its not confirmed, you have your own theories
Yes
Thatโs why I said โso far...โ because you COULD find it if it exists
U didnt?
Lol no harm no foul
Okay so if there is no evidence that elders and ancestors originated as different species ... then....
I guess i'll go, ping me if there are any new theories that is not this and/or is golden wasteland theory
Yep the elder was guiding them
- The fact that the elders have dark stones and
- that there are 6(7 twins) of them
Both line up with the concepts that they originated as regular ancestors and were given godly power
Anyway, anyone know the meaning of the mural in the cave before isle of dawn?
Which mural
The one before you enter isle of dawn?
Where you see people taking something which seemed like falling light or something?
With the stars and praying people?
In the first cave you enter or in the intro ?
Yep
Itโs the falling of children of light
maybe the falling stars are the winged lights
I don't think devs said anything about the past of elders they only talked about the game stuff and the mechanics 
I just read those 
Hii Cheaca
Hello
Hallooo
@compact olive i think i got it...
its not one quote but several of them pieced together
ยซ The elders know each other because they came from the same place as shown in the opening murals ยป
this means the elders come from a different place than the ancestors
then there is the opening cutscene
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
the new home is the kingdom so we now know the elders existed before the kingdom, which is before the invention of the diamonds
then there is the forest elder soundtrack "the invention" which prolly means that teth was the one that invented the diamonds and started using the dark stones
so in the end....
yay i did it
Lmao
O
What was what?
????
T h a t
Idk
W h a t
Ok

Welcome back to Chat Got Krilled!
Todayโs contestant is Chesca
Who currently krilled the chat for about
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1 minute
Ok
ok folks
any more theories?
I d k
Nahhhh
as self appointed high priest of canon i would like to check theories with canon...
i have already purged some of mine...
Kk
My ark theory.
God do i really have to write it alll out again
HhhhHHHhH
I'm not writing it out
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Ain't that a kick to the head
for instance:
the crabs ate through the forbidden archive walls
ยซ The new area (Archive) was a highly restricted area. No one should enter. ยป
ยซ As the restricted area decayed over time, an entrance appeared. There are knowledge/projection lanterns, sealed inside the large cubes. ยป
ok i will find it in the theory doc lol
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That does not say a thing about the crabs eating walls.
the crab eating walls was my theory
Ah, u debunked it with dat?
i purged it after i found out it contradiced canon
Oki
yes
I find it hard to believe the crabs ate walls in the first place anyway tho-
ani, could you copy and paste your theory from the vault?
oh.
aaaand i believe i am now the record holder for longest lore chat krilling
lol
So, there's this game show
Called, Chat Got Krilled
The longest record person that krills the chat
is idk, 1st place for now
I
The old record was for more than like 5 hours
Can you mark what is said by devs and what is not said by devs ?
everything except the opening cutscene was said by the devs
It is just the two quotes and everything else Is your statement
and sound track name is officially that
Okay thatโs kinda how I thought it was
No i mean since Chat Got Krillef started
Ohh
Krilled*
@teal orbit
Watch this video
3 minutes in
Devs confirm fallen stars are both ancestors and elders
Because they are the same
wait wut?
They do not differentiate between the two types. Since it is confirmed that both an ancestor and an elder are fallen stars those two quotes you posted refer to both Teth and the pointing emote spirit
Because they are both ancestors originally
Elders are just more powerful
I know mind blowing right?
canon states that elders and skids are not the same species
so this would be a paradox
was there a mistake in the holy texts?
imma go watch that part again
also im very glad @compact olive
its always good to have ppl that point out your mistakes
omg omg
yes
i have saved the orthodox
a way for the livestream and the other quotes to make sense together
ok both the spirits and elders are stars, but they are two different types of stars
they HAVE to be, cuz skids and elders are not the same species, so elders and spirits cant BOTH be the ancestors of skids
if u watch it again, the live stream never says that elders are the ancestors of skids and only calls them stars
so the only explanation that wont damage
Sky kids and elders arenโt the same or different species
and "the traveler`s guide"
is that:
there were 2 types of stars, elders and spirits
and the spirits are the ancestors of the skids, and elders are subspecies of the skids
so you were half right, but not quite
and im still right
and CANON STILL STANDS!!!
think long and hard abt this...
its easier if u draw a diagram
yay canon still stands
i will defend the holy canon with the last of my fingers
what
Chesca, avert your eyes, the servants of Karen are trying to corrupt our faith (jk)
so @compact olive, what im trying to say is that the skids and the spirits are the same, but the elders are a different subspecies
dunno mate
We all have the ability to krill chat
luckily i dont have it since i dont talk here much
Ok but why the hidenseek pioneer had the chibi mask
Even she had it on her face but she doesn't get smol
Lmao
I
Yep
The hidenseek pioneer belike:
Damn I am really tall, how do I suppose to hide from him get given chibi mask lmao thanks, umm y tho
Chibi mask is the only mask who give some type of effect right ? (Don't know all the seasonal masks)
Yep
Seems strange that there is not more of it then... Maybe she IS special in some way.
Imagine if there were a season which has the ultimate gift of giant mask
Maybe
The Chibi mask does not affect her
Because she is a normal child
And we are skykid so it affect us
the guy who made masks accidentally spilled magic into it

u talking about the hide and seek spirit?
she is tall, but thats her size after the chibi mask
she is taller without it, somehow
giants happen
Welcome back to Chat Got Krilled
hi math
why are krills in waste
if they hunt for light
shouldnt they invade praire? they must be starving
it makes no sense
||just like journey's character design||
Maybe they are territorial in a way?-
But that wouldnt make too much sense since they would be around other krill, unless they can co-exist with one another somehow-
Because krills can't wander off too far away from eden storm/diamond.
Otherwise they will become weak
Well sometimes bigger and more powerful means more weaknesses
hmm, whatโs everyoneโs thoughts on the Dreams QG having the rhythm mask? me and a friend have theorized that the two seasons are related somehow esp with the bird motifs but weโre not sure 
Seen a lot of headcanons that QG Dreams mommy and Rhythm QG are related in some form (have heard brother, husband, son, cousin, uncle ect.)
Sanctuary belly pat/scratch important somehow 
more power means more weakness? Im sorry, but I think more power means more power, with less weakness
if power meant weakness it would be kinda dumb, I suppose
Megabirb
Mmmm... Maybe Krills won't fly that high ?
I mean, I go with the concept that Isle and Wasteland are ground level since we fly up to Prairie from Isle and only get thrown down in wasteland.
So let's stay with the idea that too much light is hurtful for Krills, they won't go up then, since the clouds protect them from the sun. No point in getting hurt by too much light so they stay there. Where it's more dark.
For the crab... Since we can pick them up I would totally see some spirits picking them and going in other realms with them. (Like some pets?) And like Krills, they don't support light so they let them in some of the more obscure zones of the realms.
Corrupted creatures couldnโt go into orbit
Krills used to be normal creatures of light but were corrupted



Sadly
Did I krill the chat?
Uh
Imma leave
Oh I was just responding to IDA question of "why krills stay in wasteland and do not invade the other realms if they hunt light".
Maybe they don't much hunt it but they are hurt by it ?
Animals react by attacking or fleeing away something that scare or hurt them.
I donโt think it necessarily hurts them, but rather it is a sort of thing they sense is against them
Then like an enemy. So it go back to something that possibly can hurt them.
I like the idea of some mad spirit thinking that crab is a good pet
and your explanation actually speaks to me, so many thanks
No problem ^-^ I hope it was not too confusing, tried to explain as briefly as possible.
omg help what is this I found online:
Sky: Children of the Light tells the story of the Aurora princessโs journey through the colorful Lemuria world. In Lemuria, light is gradually becoming weak against the Queen of the darkness of Umbra and her dark army. Darkness is gradually replacing the light, and soon, Lemuria will become a kingdom covered by darkness. In the face of Queen Umbraโs cruelty, Princess Aurora decided to fight her and help Lemuria return to its inherent beauty. She will have to revive the souls of light and find the Sun, Moon, and Stars that were hidden by Umbra. However, her soul can be engulfed by darkness and forever unable to return to reality, with her fatherโs King.
Yes. Sky kids are not elders. Nor are they ancestors
confused lemoorisomething noises 
The concept art explains the difference between elder and regular star. (All ancestors)
Concepts explain 6/7 chosen ancestors were given dark stones that made them god like.
What has the developers said that changes or alters this origin?
The twins ๐ฏโโ๏ธ are really 2 elders but if you count the โno longer saveableโ king/prince elder you always end up with 7 elders
Ancestor is a nick name for any spirit who belongs in a constellation ๐
ah
I am looking for evidence to the contrary of all stars being ancestor spirits and thus all star spirits (including the elders) are of the same โtypeโ of being.... one just having greater power and respect/responsibility than the average star spirit/ancestor
Thereโs an unspoken โtruthโ that elders and ancestors are different, but I have evidence that they are fundamentally (save for the dark stone god powers) not
Can anyone provide me with evidence to discredit this?
The evidence FOR the elders being ancestor spirits (with more powers) are the development team scripting and saying publicly that every spirit with legs is a fallen star.
This is not to be confused with Edenโs โfallenโ that are some type of sky kid
This helps us to understand that the Elders themselves are not solely to blame for losing their way, and that as a whole, each entire constellation of ancestors lost their way.
If you think about it... it makes sense that they are all fallen as they were all part of the constellations ๐ from the butterfly catcher all the way up to the wasteland elder/tsadi
Oh I just though for the crabs ! Actually we see that the spirits eat them. So it's possible that they did some crabs farms. Would explain better why we find them in others realms.
They eat crabs ๐ฆ? Is that in enchantment or in sanctuary?
Looks at the ark cave paintings 
In wasteland you see the "barbecue".
Please provide picture I have to see this
The crashed ship in wastelands sort of supports this with all of the spilled container things and crabs everywhere around them
But those power diamonds โฆ๏ธ absorb creature essence/light/life...
Why do we think itโs for cooking?
Ah didn't see that. So cool, that's the explanation then.

Has anyone tried to piece the skeleton in graveyard back together?
how? 
Hello everybody! I really love sky lore, and would like to be able to discuss it with you all. However, I'm really behind you, since I only discuss this with 2 friends and we're not that good... For now, I'll try to understand what you know I I don't. Can you explain me what's that about the diamonds?
Is it even one skeleton ? Seems like multiple creatures, no ?
I thought it was multiple skeletons of the same creature
Because thereโs the skull at the beginning of the graveyard and then after than thereโs a bigger one with a spine attached to it
its a whale + turtle skeleton, its got a turtle head and a whale body
its been fan-named "whurtle" uwu
Squirtle would like to know the name of your location.
whats the story behind the teal cape spirit? they walk down the cave/tunnel area holding a large ball of light and their emote is the angy one
and the dismayed hunter. what were they hunting? why were they worried?
they had a bow n arrow
I think the dismayed hunter was dismayed because the apologetic lumberjack scared their prey away when they cut down the tree
i dont think so
i noticed just now that the spirit the lumberjack is apologizing to drops a book
Was the kingdom harvesting darkness like in wasteland lots of the pipes that have sludge in them
they were harvesting light
they put them in pots (butterflies) and the mining spirit is literally called the light miner
dark plants seem to grow from the mines
So is the sludge the result of their light mining?
I guess that would make sense since it drains our light
im not sure
ive heard people say the water on the ground doesnt drain us because of the jellyfish !
@compact olive ,you were talking about the diamonds.... Can you explain that to me, please?
maybe the water in wasteland drains us due to krill
Water on Wasteland is polluted, and in the other realms isnt
rain drains us in forest but the water on the ground doesnt
jellyfish roam the water in forest, krill in wasteland
imagine a megakrill
what would it look like
also, i have a friend whos new to sky lore.
But there aren't jellyfishes in isle, or home, and water there doesn't kill too
Also, on forgotten ark there are no krills, and water is polluted and drains life
there is a krill at ark
ik there r fish in home and prairie social, not sure about isle
but its also probably due to pollution bc both forest and gw are polluted
Really? Never saw it. Must search
Itโs at the mountain
That you pass through on the raft
In the lake, but there are no fish in the home sea
Ok, Ill try to see it when I go back to ark
Forest is polluted?
Krill have soot that falls off them and wherever krill are itโs sandy
So krill could be a source of the major pollution
Maybe itโs more like acid rain rather than just straight up pollution for forest
It would make sense that jellyfish have some sort of purification effect because when you ring bell rain that drains us stops
tears?
It will be easier to see if you go onto the dunes first and the look back
It will be above the mountain
ancestor eyes are weird diamonds
Hi! Does anyone happen to have the interpretation for this mural in the prophecy cave?
Referring to the rebirth in the elder hall after eden?
Or the accession to the elder hall as you pass all that stuff as you fly to elder hall after eden?
there's no canon interpretation, however its commonly thought its the coronation of the king
I see! I thought maybe it would refer to the prince because of the prophecy symbol, but the king makes more sense
Thank you for the responses! I wasn't sure how the trials were meant to connect to that image
I have a theory about that, but it'll take some time to share
When I can, I'll tell it
That's cool! I'm interested
Oh, yes, first can you tell me everything for now accepted about that king? If the king is what I think, the theory may need to be reviewed after knowing what you guys have to say about the king
theyre kinda low for eyes which is why i think theyre tears
also i feel llike that wouldve been a good spirit opportunity rather than a statue
or that could be a corpse
.
well, the prince and the king have the same symbol (
/
), and its also a possibility they're the same person
if you were to compare the eye placement to the other ancestors (and also eye placement on people in general, our eyes are lower than ppl think) its around the same spot, and its the same model for eyes as the other ancestors as well, so i doubt its tears
I don't know that much, only that the King was supposedly crowned by the Elders? But at the end (Eden) he became corrupted over time because of his greed (for the diamonds, which later formed the red crystals)..and that the Prince is possibly a version of the King/or the Child of Light
Thank you! That's really interesting
have you read the lore moff doc, otoo ?
as well as the canon doc
the canon doc has all the information we have about the king, the moff doc just slaps it into a paragraph
Hello new Lore Moff!
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ah i see
ig i just got confused bc of the proportions of that compared to the skids faces
How do we do to see the info about the king?
So in the graveyard in the Golden wasteland, what were the creatures that once lived there?
there's information in the lore moff doc as well as the canon doc
Thank you, I guess that that's not more than I have, but I see it in a different way, then I'll say it.
the creatures are a fusion of a turtle skull and whale body, and they've been nicknamed "whurtles" by lore chat ^^
Thank you! Read it and now I know my theory is apllyable to what you have, or at least the major part of it.
It'll take me some time to write it down, but when I write my creation theory here, I hope you all give a feedback
Hey still want to talk about diamonds
(O_O) oh no
Thereโs a child of light standing on top of the power diamonds in wasteland in the belly of the sunken boat.z
Thereโs a star child on the sludge by the pipes in the same area...
The power diamonds were used to mush mantas and Other creatures of light.... to drain them of their power/light....
What if this represents that they were keeping the fallen star children and using them for energy.
That sounds kind of similar to how the gelfling were used as a sort of source of eternal youth by the skeksis in the dark crystal. Are you saying that skids were around before we originally thought and were used to harvest light?
Oohhhh, sounds plausible, but can you please explain first what are the diamonds? I don't know really much about it๐
I will explain the power diamonds after this statement Teickel...
Freckle there was a mural and spirit memory in isle of dawn that both show star ๐ falling and two ancestors finding the fallen star and it was a child. (Child of light?)
I canโt find the pictures but this implies that children of light might have been around since the beginning of time or close to it as isle represents the earliest times of the finding of the kingdom of sky
Triskel the giant golden diamonds are items found in the refineries of hidden forest and wasteland and even in mass production on the โtitanicโ ship ๐ข these diamonds are heavily implied to have harvested creatures of lights essence (mantas, butterflies, birds etc.)
Holy moly that actually explains why mantas fly out when you finish the cutscenes in Tethโs temple
So maybe not only were they using mantas ......... oh my goodness
Theory bomb!!!!
The entire city of Eden is one giant power diamond โฆ๏ธ!!!!!!!
i mean, sacrifices have been a common thing in ancient cultures. Maybe the elders became so greedy that they ended up using some skids as sacrifices for their batteries
Itโs not an actual diamond but the city uses the same mechanics as a power diamond !
Ohh maybe the Elders are evil.
I also have a theory that theyre the ones keeping Krill in Wasteland and Eden
mm I just joined in, not sure if theyre still talking tho
temples and Elders using skykids as batteries
But the question is now in my head. Are the elders still evil or are they wanting the skids to help right the wrongs they made?
huh. thats a great question
In present time, i dont think so
maybe thats where the Winged Lights come from? they're just glowing kids without wings - they remind me of spirits
Isnโt the lore that the skids came after all of the spirits died though? So maybe the whurtle in forest got juiced but not skids right? 
The spirit on fire though 

Wait woah woah, ur saying the skids got juiced. thats horrible and why am i imagining that right no-

Makes the wasteland and forest all the more unsettling
I gtg now tho, school time hehe. Cya
I think u haven't seen this concept before
oh?
Because...
ONE, THERE IS NO SUN TO SUPPORT HEAT
^
at the end of the game, when you ascend
I wonder if the spirits were glowy when they were alive since theyโre just fallen stars 
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Yeah, the planet Horizon that sky is on does have a sun
The Light, or the light ball in sky is too far away
megan
also
megan is headless
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yep, megan is headless
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the megabird
i mean
is headless-
?
it has eyes

But Megan has a beak though?
the light autosphere is the heart
the heart or the center
Guys
A mammal
Wdym where is the head? The beak is right there
What
Pupper
I don't see a beak-
Maybe the birb was decapitated
I think Megan is headless because, like life itself, there is no heading or clear direction. Perhaps her being headless is symbolic
Unless, we ARE the megabird.
Let's say this, we are the bloodcells of the megabird. Our duty is to make that body live, if the head is gone. That means the megabird is dying.
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O h m y
and so are we
I just realized now the fact our cape is so perfectly tailored
It can carry winged light
And recharge from stuff we find everywhere
Like fire, light creatures and clouds
Like we're efficiently equipped messengers
then again
I still don't get the point of the masks though
We don't have the shadow on our cape.
Mhm
i think it was meant to hide that... we are forever unlit.
So-
Let's say this.
We've sort of... 'swapped.'
The Light we have inside ourselves, which is our heart during sky. We haven't connected with until we reach eden
and we ascend.
Our unlit selves
fuses
with the lit selves
and become a pure sky kid.
W o a h
Come to think of it
We do get our cape and hair and stuff when we hug that white version of ourselves-
Hold on-
Ooooh ! Like a black hole ! We absorb the lights around us and deliver it to Megabird in Orbit. Cool idea.
And that white kid dissapears
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HOw are the elders MADE-
are they an enigma-
Or did they come from limbo 
I just realised, every elder has a meaning
I read they are the fallen stars from the intro cutscene
So how are stars formed 
Mhm
whips out wikipedia
O k
Stars are giant spheres of superhot gas made up mostly of hydrogen and helium. Stars get so hot by burning hydrogen into helium in a process called nuclear fusion. This is what makes them so hot and bright. Our Sun is a star.
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i copied that-
ima just,
GET MORE STUFF
But I made an entire lore about that.
Ok-
H m m m
Another thing is the fact the bigger the star, the faster it dies
Ooooh I can see how you can add this to our skid and the winged light... interesting.
There are more small stars than big stars in the universe.
Megan is a birb. Birbs have wings
Winged light
And the skid capes :pFIRE:
H m m m
There are clearly more WL and skids than elders tho- 
I realize the universe analogy can be literally applied to anything with some sort of (social) structure
sO
here was my entire lore about the sky being stars0
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so
hold your seatbelts-
and hang on-
In the beginning, there was a sector composed of large stars.
Each of them orbited in harmony, until unbalance struck and separated the large stars, or the elders.
They each got their own sector as they drifted into space for millions of years...
ack, actually i'm too lazy-
Well I realized that masks gives us eyes lol
I zoomed in my gratitude bunny mask and saw it
O o p
you mean you saw your eyes were open under the mask owo ?
wait...
if there are already books in sky, then what are those things that the vault contains?
Those are lanterns
wait wait there r books?
yea
Where
Oh
hmm...
anyway, think of the lanterns as more like projectors
it shows you knowledge with a hologram
Yes

Spill the beans
To exterminate it?
oh my
they wanna eat
Everything about Gw is darkness
ok ida, imma fetch a few theories that might help
maybe its not that amazing but valley twins got abused corpse plant and thats it
?
ok so first there is the symbiosis theory
when creatures are being formed by megan out of light, they are neutral.
during this state, if they are exposed to dust, they are created as dark creatures
if they are exposed to stasis sparks, they become light creatures
if they are exposed to nothing, they become neutral
dust is parasitic. it eats up the light inside a creature and makes it constantly hungry, forcing it to be carnivorous, and hunt for external sources of light.
stasis sparks create light a lot and sustain both the light creature and the stasis sparks, and in return, the light creature takes stasis sparks to other places
neutral creatures consume small amounts of light, or none at all and usually consume organic matter.
They hunt it because they crave it. Perhaps after being corrupted into creatures of darkness, theyโre desperate to feel light again and will hunt it down to gain it again
so this theory assumes that krills are hungry
Krill, or dark dragons, are dark creatures native to the kingdom of Sky. They are protected by their exoskeleton and they use their one eye to detect potential prey. Weโre now in Wasteland and we are in for a special treat. Krill feed on light creatures so that manta right there is bound to attract a krill or two. Oh, here comes the krill. (insert scene of the krill krilling the manta) Now, what we just saw there is how the krill hunt. Their eye shines in the dark like a cat and acts as a spotlight as it looks for light creatures, enabling it to search for prey even in the darkest corners of the Golden Wasteland. When they detect prey, their eye turns red, and after a moment of determining whether the target is potential food, they dive at their prey. There are 2 types of krill, though the differences between them are minor. Krill in Wasteland create noticeably weaker walls of wind to repel debris, while the krill in Eden have remarkably strong wind walls. This is probably because Eden has more debris, making it necessary for krill to exert more effort
making stronger windwalls. Krill are capable of hosting small parasitic organisms called dust, which suck sparks out of a creature to the point of starvation which causes their hosts to turn carnivorous and hunt for external sources of light. Krill are known to exhibit strange behavior of attacking sky kids, a species known for its biological neutrality. However, the purpose of this seemingly paradoxical behavior is not to eat the sky kid, but rather the highly nutritious winged light that sky kids carry inside their hard, armour-like bodies. Just like bearded vultures have to smash large bones to get to the marrow, the krill are attempting to knock the winged light from inside the sky kid by using a method academically known as โboopingโ (insert moth getting krilled). However, the success rate of the krill catching the winged light that falls out is very low, as the winged light sticks to the ground after it falls, and the krill are too slow to catch the winged light as they fall.
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ye ik
wo, hello 'I'
u good?
Man thatโs a lot
Ye, good. Thanks for asking, you?
we have stuff on each creature in sky lol
yay its inquisition time
Wait who are you talking to chesca
Theyโre memories
ah makes sense
Yes
oh and btw
you know how at the end of vault we black out and find ourselves on broken floor leading to eden?
nobody really knows how we teleport there, right?
or maybe.. does anyone here know or have an theory?
Hm
ye, so some theorised that Vault is a hallucination or dream
Sup
Hallo
I dont like these theories
so ill pretend they dont exist
SUP
hello ani
I
||Im in the middle of class so dont mind me||
ok
oki
anyways, Idk how we get there, but you know these spirit mantas that carry us to the summit?
Yes
they disappear when we're on top
Yeah
I wonder where do they go
They are dead
They push me everytime i try to get the damn candle wax-
Lol same
the spirit mantas are most likely projections made by the memory lanterns
hm...
so they werent alive to begin with?
Hm maybe
you know, this kinda makes sense, they arent spirits but memories
if they were spirits they wouldnt be flying in perfect circles
at least I think they wouldnt...
I fly in perfect circles-
Its an easier way to fly up-
im thinking smth like this
Yup
You fly in a circle, boost up little by little, thats how you fly up using less energy.
but they still can carrry us
but i question how do krills hit them?
So, the levels of vault are all projected memories/hallucinations that remain of the past before you wake up and find yourself in what is all thatโs left of the vault?
??
they...dont?
like when you see a krill for the first
we dont know
but I refuse to believe that whole realm is a memory, dream or hallucination
yes... its probably a tractor beam
We're talking bout spirit mantas
oh my
or the projections disappear after they get hit?
Ah
I believe u are in the real vault but what you see is a hallucination
they arent getting hit
what exactly?
Wdym-
anyways if the prophecy came first doesn't that make them the first elders?
think of it like this... the real vault is an empty and boring so the vault scholars put in a few special effects like light waterfalls and translucent mantas... like AR but magic... get it?
Ye-
could be true
Welp, i gtg. Cya!
the shelves and the lanterns are most likely real
dunno, I dont like that. and since we can clearly interact with some objects I dont think theyre just illusions
do u know how AR works?
or another way for the skid to communicate with the elder
no offense
Lmao
Welp
augumented reality
Yes
ummm
alternate reality
No-
nonono
oh ok
Augumented reality.
basically, pokemon go
Pfft
k
Yes
u see cg things in the real world
uh.. maybe I should drop this topic.
K-
there`s always our trusty friend, google
very trusty. ๐
||How is google helpful in any way||
do you guys think that home space is cannon?
have you not played the dinosaur game?
Cannon?
canon
Yes, i have

