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took too long to do Biology and the next seasonal quest is still an hour away akjsjakjska
Im just going to dump this here but
I like to think that each of the spirits emotes correlates with the elders and what they maybe represent or are like.
That's actually kind of accurate- like how all the fun, lighthearted emotes are in Prairie and the moodier emotes are found in Forest
Valley has a very show-offy vibe to it, and Wasteland emotes are all cautious and guarded
wo a
Isle having the base emotes of pointing, ushering, and rejecting are all pretty simplistic and easy to understand
Vault is kinda hard to place though but they seem more dignified and self-assured
what does the mountain with the crack down the middle symbolize 
like the entrace to cave of prophecies, sanctuary island big mountain, flying race entrance?
also has there ever been a season within the vault of knowledge?
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“the seasonal content and a lot of the additional features/entertainment is to build up the world rather than the lore”
but- prophecy-
Hi-
Rather than, used to give more importance to one thing when two alternatives or preferences are being compared. Never said it had nothing to do with lore at all ovo
Guess i came at a very dead time.
n I c 3
Well it does involve lore, but not as much as giving answers to eden’s history and the explosion and the crack in the mountain and stuff like that
the seasonal content is mainly for building up the world and showing different perspectives and stories in different places we never knew existed. No doubt it gives lore, but it’s mainly for world building
If that makes sense
okay spoilers for anyone who hasn't seen the new skater spirit memory to the fullest yet and I'm one of them but like
why does the Postman look like he's training her for the Winter Olympics
HFJWJSJWDNRJ
nO SERIOUSLY- H U R DLE S
there are hURDLES
and I can't even show pics because the spirit memory goes by fast-
I know— all I comprehended was the hurdles, skater and postman being there and had no idea what was happening otherwise
also if I'm hearing the sound effects right are we doing axels as we're going down the slopes
Twirling Champion would be proud of this girl-
Hey I have a thing to say
Is dreams guide spirit is iceskating spirit girl but older ??

Possibly? We haven't really seen enough of either to be sure
I believe it's from season of gratitude
But now I'm doubting that guide spirit being once that iceskating
Cuz we can see 'em together during season of dreams teaser
BUT it can be possible that guide spirit is "seeing her younger self"
Imagine that when finishing last quest, guide spirit will wear the ultimate gifts cosmetics
Nope, we can see both guide spirit looking at iceskating girl
I meanthis teaser
they watching the skater from afar
So the question I've been asking here was "is guide spirit the iceskating girl but older ?"
Saying this again for newcomers
Can't be sure about that. Maybe the picture here is the vision from guide spirit's eyes
Wha-
Sheesh ! The same hair as scaredy refugee
Hmm ?
Plot twist: spirits can also collect candles to buy other spirit's cosmetics
Also explains the skater girl and come here spirit
Jkjk
O o p
the prince is outta here, I think.
probably
*makes a headcannon poofball ponytails were trendy-
What something so hyper that you have achieved oh great one
boop, I still love you
I WILL NEVER AGAIN PLAY THIS QUEST
pain
oh
What
I did the quest 1st try and so many ppl appear to Have trouble with this
This makes me feel weird XD
basically postman and skater have a race. postman using their sled while the skater follow with only their skate shoe-
WHAT KIND OF TORTURE IS THIS
also postman teach the skater how to jump, it seems
Does she really Have skate shoes?
idk man i cant imagine them skating with bare feet-
I did not Have time to look at them while slideing down the slope and that makes me sad 
They Arent barefoot
They do Have some shoes
well yea with shoes at least
But they seem to be more like dancing shoes
except if you some madlads who didnt have nerves system
So its not as bad as skate ones
Look, Sky kids can slide barefoot, stop overreacting XD
idk how thick their sole feet are, but they do indeed only wear pointee shoes-
S h o e s
enjoy the suffering
im suffering through lags and constant server merges so yeah you know the pain
Quickly do the quest before i merge server

Anyway, yall were talking about s h o e s ?
I couldnt imagine skating without my ice-skating shoes-
That would be cold. Very cold.
Do you know how col-
i cant even stand up on skate shoes
i might just gonna surrender and become one with the ice rink
I have returned
I-
i live on tropical country what do you expect-
I learnt figure skating.
h o w
Luckily its not real so,
I will not teach you how to ice-skate.
I learnt ice skating when i was like 6
Just balance, my friend.
cause of pandemy they close the skate arena-
Trial of air ok? B a l a n c e.
aight im gonna try after pandemy finished-
jk i will try after they open the ice skate again
dunno when they gonna open tho-
You must have patience, resilience, balance and courage. Go on, redo the trials.
its been one month since i goes to the trials lmao
Ice skating will be exactly the same.
well at least real life wont lags the same way my phone whenever i try to do a trial-
Lol
You’ll he surprised
stooooop dont scare me like that 
What-
blelelel

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I need a topic so i can start a new essay
So what part of Sky? :>

Guess the chat is still dead
They kidnapped the star child when they were supposed to set it back to mega bird
Hi, idk if this is the place to ask this but i know some people might have an answer for this question. So, why are there murals that have krills in them? were krills once creatures of lights and got corrupted or are they just there for no reason?
There is no clear answer to that
In original concept art they were creatures of light 💡 corrupted by darkness
But since one developer said “there’s a rich ecology of light and darkness” everyone is split on whether krills are their own species since the beginning or if they were giant light creatures (like the one in sanctuary) devoid of light and corrupted by darkness
Short answer.... no one has definitive proof
To support either case
thank u 
I believe they were made into dark things as they don’t show up in any other murals except the prophecy mural (which tells the future) and the ark mural (which shows the storm@ of darkness)
Is there a clearer version of the murals someone made
Im sure there’s some fan art version of the murals out there but I don’t think it’s an entirely finished product. There was once images which were pulled from the games source code but that was banned in this chat. Those were the clearest versions of the murals
Mind if I ask why you ask for a “clearer” version?
I don’t have the brain capacity to ingest the theories I’d make with it
Does this help a bit?
I have to revise this to incorporate the newer murals from prophecy
Guess I'm not sleeping tonight 
Is there a higher res version of that?
Does anyone know what these sparklies are in this Enchantment spirit memory?
maybe that’s light from when the spirits were alive? since it’s the same color
does anyone know the significance of the three sky children in orbit with mega bird? i’ve always wondered about them
when enchantment started there were no tents in the area as the quests arent out yet. the spirit memory contains those tents so they look overlapped with the tents you have rn
Oh that makes more sense then-
So when/how was the existence and role of the megabird confirmed? Or are we just guessing? This is the first I’ve heard of it.
The old Light Awaits logo iirc hh
It was quite a big thing in the concept art, and the huge cluster that appears in orbit also resembles it too(?) Though this is just my guess.
In the ending scene too
Oh ok. I never really thought of it that way
Though we don't know how much of the concepts made it into live
Normally I’m pretty big on lore but with sky I just can’t figure it out lol
If we did then the lore chat wouldn't exist
Have yall seen the lore moff doc
Iirc Megabird was mentioned there
Uhhhh was she
Anyway
Time to sneep for me
But imma leave these herr
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :))
Nighty night lore chat
ooh what's light awaits?
it's the beta version of sky iirc
Sky: Light Awaits is Sky: Children of The Light's predecessor
oh that makes sense, thats so cool!
You can find an album of it in the pins !
thank youuuuu :)
They're so fascinating to look at hh
Have u checked out Tom Zhao's page??? :VVVV
no i dont think i have?? ive jsut seen the deviant art stuff in the documents :0
BLESS UP
im making my ios layout sky themed thatll be very useful
omg this is gorgeous
a gold mine
gn!!
Have a good night!
So skykids don’t have fingers
That’s what I thought
bc spirits have fingers but we don’t
also uh
Does cork canonically exist
because the recharge potions have corks in them
or some kind of stopper
cries in fingerless
Good morning
I just woke up and didn’t do anything but pick up an i-pad what are we doin
Look at how much king tall
He like a tower
This is the beta concepts just so u know mr king won’t be seeing any visitors apparently
why do dem kings have them asgore build- 
w i d e HSJSHSJDJSHD
sky king also had like a spear/staff as a weapon in the concept art right?
Yep!
On your way up eden as concept
The king had a spear to yeet at you
It was called The King's Spear
intens dodging 
going trough that zone with the king would be terrifying
t a l l
Also I want the king to come back I don’t care if he tries to eat our wings adjdfgrdfgds
same
honestly same omg-
terrifyingly epic
I mean anything just to debut right? 
also is the village middle or low class of golden valley?
wait till hermit valley and we will all be shook
our money turns to candles but never the other way around 
😳
ngl it feels weird with the currency being candles and them just being all over the place... like wouldnt the candles just be stolen?
So they stealing from us
I KNEW IT

They must be rich
He rich man
He knows the secret of candle make
He makes whole candles
We collect little wax to make candles
No he makes the wax
gasps
He magic man
WOAH
LETS KIDNAP HIM
He’s the most powerful being in sky
How would we kidnap him
He’s too powerful
What dose he look like
Look

He make candle
Scary
He is small
I will knock him out
He’s just far away
But he is too stronk
Do not challenge him
:(( he is too stronge
He will eat turn your candles to red rocks
Oh no
He speaks with the candles
Gasp
He is the king in disguise
Omigod
The king
I ask him for candle
he seems like a scientist/innovator showing his new way of currency to higherups 
He says no
Cries
He looks like he broken

He annoyed at me
Imma run away before my candles gone
Ima go draw again
Ok back to lore
I was always curious about Memory Whisperer spirit
first we have to kidnap megan, dammit
like were they in charge for the memories for the spirit mantas or vault memories only? or were they also behind all the spirit memories in sky?
ill bring da kreb 
yes, don't forget krebs, they will help us
Stahp don’t think about kidnapping him your candles will die and you will be cursed to never get candles again
Kidnapping Megan is fine tho
lmao I just want megan, forget candlemaker
megan invented candle forging 
they are always watching us through that blinking red dot
So let’s get Megan!
maybe he too, is a wyrm
Remember mattpats theory about how the knight is a reincarnation of the king
Yes the theory is trash
ikr
Now back to sky lore
I’m jealous king uh
tall
He tower
It looks like they really wanted the forest elder to have an umbrella
Then vault man go squish
smol fork bug
Shut
ooh, new theory, megan is the radiance
That’s the prince
So small 😭
I can make a higher resolution image of the time line. I still haven’t even finished it. I’m only 2/3rds done.
And yes the Mega bird is all over the concept art, however, the bird can be seen at the very end of the. Credits after Eden/orbit completion. So this (and the location of orbit and the floating spirits dying towards orbit) confirms there is a giant bird like image made of all of the light(souls) in the galaxy.
Because there is literally only a few hand fulls of written text in the entire game much of the mega bird is not wholly confirmed by words but rather by visuals.
Things like knights bowing to a bird like candle 🕯 and bird statues bringing you home and the stars forming a bird are what point to “what made it into the game” as far as concept art is concerned.
Ajkajskakakakakamak i need this chat to be alive for what i'm about to show
It’s the same with the prince. Though not by name, there is mural art of a child of light with a special star 🌟 like crown/mask/head, for example in the prophecy murals in isle of dawn. This doesn’t 100% confirm it is a prince, but the concept art helps us to understand who this is/was supposed to represent
Bring it Yash
I’m alive
omg why cant i sleep hH
Because sleep is for the weak!! 
i am weak das why i need sleep but hH- 
What did you find in battlefield Yash?
i wann seee
(Does deep call to energize Fine Tyler’s cape of light)
i like how we are jus impatient at this point 
Yash is toying with us. The anticipation is growing!!
King statue seems to have a slot for diamond and he is holding it
All of the statues on the temple/castle have glowing eyes i'm guessing they were building something big
I'm not exactly sure if it was the power diamond in eden or maybe king was trying to absorb the power of crystal
So war may have happened between the king, the dark creatures, king's followers and other wasteland elder/sun shield team
Sorry my internet connection isn't the fastest

Oh that’s the battle turret gun
Yeah In concept art you were supposed to dodge it’s blast like a krill searching for you. It’s the cities gate tower defenses
Ye
They’re all guns. It had like 8 total
wait are the statues the guns or is it on the- oH
It’s what shot holes in the creatures in graveyard
Statues are guns
Transformers I
You’ll find it in the Tomcepts
Tom concept art
what in the high tech was wasteland in-
Yeah, pretty high tech. The creatures didn’t stand a chance against their defenses
So my legend of korra mecha tank theory is ded 
omg tysm im so curious now
i should really read through the concept art sometime
i stopped after seeing the old krill-
I bet he was strict when he was leading wow
takes 5 flaps to reach his height i bet
Yup
omg it do dem transformer stuff whoah
And the black bones in graveyard with holes are dead creatures shot by those canons
I like the king
He tall tower I give him me wings
So I get tall too
So wasteland was in a hole before storm
In prince form
hhhHHH like jus a sigh yknow 
I mean,,, there is dark water scattered across the realm
Wasteland is basically a defensive fort dug around the mountain 🏔 that housed the beacon point where mega bird picked up souls/light
so it was a high security base to protect information ans stuff?
Sorry to interrupt but what’s the underwater theory?
not just info
But the beacon to the mega bird as well
It’s dubbed the “holy land”
Imagine those towers spotting you in battle field then you you see cannon/diamonds shooting towards you
wing light? more like fireworks 
Eden is the city built on the holy land and vault is the elevator library to the city of Eden and wasteland is the fortification around both
omg im glad the canons are broken and deactivated hH
The wasteland was underwater then all that water was transferred to the factories to cool the diamonds
Oooooo that makes a lot of sense
so is Eden restricted? or is Vault the one restricted? or is both?
i sound so stooped rn its like about to be 3am here-
Imagine a moff activating the diamond in front of the fort and the towers get activated and spotting you

I can imagine other people using boats for transportation to eden instead of going through vault
Yeah
but we have it the hard way
Vault's name was forbidden Vault once before release 
What was the diamond about 
vault was broken and blew up right? was it the ones who broke in or was it the higher ups intention to not leak info?
That’s the hard part
the archives seem like there was a break in
The diamonds ♦️ in general are power diamonds
They use up light to create power or energy
However the giant red one in the storm of Eden is where the child of light / the prince is located (when you hug him)
So it could have been used to block up the holy land beacon to absorbs its power.
Do they use it up though? Or just require it to activate? You don’t really lose light while using your candle to activate stuff
sry guys i should sleep now, i have classes in like 5 hours 
I want this wasteland even if i die 
nahhh dat look like a roblox obby- 
jkjk sry gnightHSJDJDHS

They use it up
That’s why they need more creatures at first
So here’s a simple explanation of it
Creatures of light give off light. Or fire 🔥 depending on the context.
They willingly gave this to the ancestors to help them with their needs.
But then....
In hidden Forest the ancestors learned how to pull light from the creature with darkness (power diamonds ♦️)
This not only pulled it from them but it could be used to drain them so much it would
Drain the creatures physical forms to black sludge
.... are you saying that the toxic water in the wasteland is drained creatures?
Bruh this is one dark meme
So the beacon was there from start or elders build it after falling from sky to return to space
Was there from the start. It is on every planet
They’ve been trying to return to the heavens where they fell from? Still wondering what caused them to fall
It’s is how creature and ancestors reincarnate

I need to dig deeper in vault 
They seem to have moved away from their god or the mega bird and seemed to have created technology to do things on their own
Mega bird ahhh wait
Perhaps they suffered from an emp and now their equivalent of Silicon Valley has fallen to ruin, nature reclaiming it
Concept art says the use of power diamonds caused the creatures of light to become creatures of darkness
Slurps manta juice
They did try it in early beta
Manta juice tastes good
So it's a cycle with no end

Y e s
This feels like people recommending blood pancakes to people who have never had blood pancakes
So, this is legit the first time I’ve ever seen a depiction of the megabird
Very pretty
What do yall think sparkler spirit’s title is gonna be?
And krills have those blue diamonds so-
Darkness may've used those diamonds and boom krill is born
me: talks about lore
friend who doesn't know I played longer than him and he acts like I'm more of a moth than him: mega bird isn't in the game
me: I said this was not confirmed canon but-
those are statues of the king, not towers 
Ohhhh
okay it's canon that the king's head is a diamond
I have to get back to work
do not cite the ancient texts to me, for I was there when it was written
Those were watch tower that trigger cannons
the devs have confirmed they're just king statues
iirc Ash (Concept Artist) referred to them solely as such
however, the statues on top of the temple are more remeniscent of the "turret" or "cannon" concept
King statues that were watch towers
no where is safe-
So, Dusk is what the wasteland was called before it went all wrong and it used to be a fortress/major city?
I think
Not city but like a fort gates to protect eden and vault.
Like the main defense
It represents midlife crisis too right
They were thought to be different stages of life so ye
Yeah I remember seeing that billboard in the office
You know with all the themes of fire and rebirth, could megabird be a phoenix?
Well from now it is to me.
What is Lore?
I dont know if im allowed to say this but my friend and I were talking and im just wondering- could the story of sky perhaps connect to the bible in any way?
exactly
Well for starters the word Eden is connected to religion according to the definition.
oop heres my other friend lol
Eden's story could be connected. What about the other realms?
The other realms represent the stages in life.
Mhm?
No I don’t think so.
I see why they would name it that but I don’t see why they would brink religious stuffs

hold on ill maybe join in later- im trying to see what another friend thinks rn
Well i think it could be connected in some way. But to me, its just eden-
Yea
I don’t feel like they would want to bring it in
You know?

Just because
It’ll get complicated
And stuffs
So
ea
Ok, so new topic pls. i wish to write an essay
Yes new topic
...
Hhhh
Sorry had to get images of the first cutscene so you can hopefully understand better.
So we talked about it and broke down what we know. If you look at Adam and Even and the garden of Eden. That’s basically what happened post Eden. All was good and then everything went down hill. Look at these images, that’s basically what happened.
Aw man so then we really can’t talk about sky lore if it involves religion? Darn I was ready to blow these people’s minds.
We can talk more in dms if you would like :>
those are more like laser-blasting turrets
No, but I checked it, and a lot of stories are like this. Some of the Bible’s stories were inspired by older stuff too (I’m sorry don’t be mean to me). So there is a big chain of influence and stuff, plus I don’t think they would uh, put religion in because it would get complicated and uh, talking about stuffs like this gets me feeling weird let’s talk about other stuff
Back to wasteland cannons
You’re not being mean but the word Eden is a religious word. But yeah I see what you mean.
nobody:
Sky king: I do as the crystal guides
Nobody:
Sky king: T A L L
resize potions go brrr
Hey everyone, just a thought after reading a little of the topic.
In the season of Dreams we get this Ultimate gifts who seems like a Phoenix (to me). I don't know how end the season of Dreams, don't want to spoil myself, so I clearly can be really wrong on this. But I thought, "What if the ultimate cosmetics is the costume that the skater girl wear for her big show ?" Would it then be a representation of the Megabird ? Just an idea...
im quite sure he is the size of the turrets in gw
what if eden diamond fits in the king's helmet
It may be megabirb
King: monches diamond: POWER UP
oh my...
Well I personally think the phoenix cape and mask as an ultimate reward is very fitting creature for sky. ||Considering skykids and phoenixes are both reborn.||
i was tginking more of just shoving into his face
no need to spoiler here
Slams face into diamond
yes
Wait really?
lorechat has become meme chat
Oh did not know that.
Ye. I told him
Also no need to spoiler here!
No for her, she doesnt wanna be spoiled
It’s a spoiler channel
hello. Before I heard that the gates could represent stages of life? is this true?
Morgane doesnt want to be spoiled on season of dreams
well the different realms can
what stages?
dunno about the gates
of life
oh yeah realms right
Not the gates, but the stages yes
There’s concept art saying that
where can I find it?
Oh it's ok ! I'm happy to be confirmed in this, just don't want to see the cinematics 😉
Lol
Thats the office posters one right? If not, i have no idea whats happening
Yes
Office posters
Oof
That’s old me
It’s an old photo I had to dig up, sorry it took long
I’m a moth there
I’m laughing a bit that one of the most moody elders represents teenage years
Just to add, I think the sky universe in in a solar system with three other planets..||(no contact has been made as of yet)||
||It is possible, and it could tie into the fact that you can go to space and visit a space station. Maybe the world is more connected similar to lay lines which could be used as mental portals||
crying emote 😳
You look at Teth and tell me she doesn’t act like a moody teen
It is
Hi im back, whats up-
This server is scaring me a lot, but this lore chat is helping keeping me calm
Oh oop-
I havent looked at the other parts of the server in a while
general makes me anxious tho lmao
We talking space and king turrets
ive,,t r i e d
I only look in 3 channels
I might have made the mistake of suggesting a pirate treasure hunt season in there oops
This, beta updates, and looking for group. These are the only channels i frequently look into.
That’s ironic.
How so?
I kinda want that lmao
sKykId wiTh eYepaTcH
y e s
Y e s
Because usually lore makes people overwhelmed by theories and such.
What??
Sharing braincells is gud
tis fun

Hilariously enough, I prefer learning and talking about folklore and archeology than about random stuff that goes at a speed that could break the sound barrier
Same, I’d rather discuss theories or ideas because it’s a work out for my brain. Where as talking about random things just makes me lose braincells.
Speaking of archeology. Do you think that this world of sky is similar to the myth of Atlantis? Like, I like to imagine that as the game goes on we can be revealed more areas that will reveal how the people used to live and possibly what might have led to the elders being seen as gods I guess would be a good word?
The topic has passed but please do not talk about beta spoilers here
Mr tall king man I thinks
Someone spoiled what happens at the end of dreams so I deleted it
ohh ok
Maybe only the elders and king were tall
ohhh
That monster.
From how the temples are so intricate, those things we’re definitely built with time, so I’m certain the elders were seen as gods that the spirits worshiped along with the king. Maybe they didn’t acknowledge the megabird and that lead to some downfall?
Awhile ago someone said there were giants in sky... like the weapon sizes in wasteland
I mean skykids are the small bunch not even taller than the quest giver or spirits in general. smh
-gasp- what if the elders and kings believed themselves to be higher and greater than the megabird and it resulted in an Icarus scenario? Fly too close to the sun and you might get burned
Maybe as to they get older they get taller?
That’s what I was thinking. I think the downfall had something to do with not listening to megabird and so the stars fell and their light was no longer infinite.
I mean the spirits
Ancestors?
Yes ancestors but most of us call them spirits by now. It doesn’t matter what you call them
The original spirits are all taller than a max height sky kid. I was saying that with the objects we see, the spirits aren’t even proportional. So giants
Ah.
But what happened to the diamonds?
They probably fell out with time
Corrupted, Exploded
There a theory floating around that they misused diamond tech and fell
Hi, im back for the third time-
Let me go back to screenshots
their falls were caused By The giant Ark or Darkness
I mean, other diamonds and power sources remain. What do you think happened to the diamonds in the turrets? Either something moved them or they broke apart and are buried under the sand
Could the Krills have attacked it ?
Why would they?
Wasteland looks pretty crappy compared to the other realms.. maybe degradation
guys, turrets never took place in the live or beta test
It be concept
We can still talk about concepts, tho, right?
Don’t see why not
I mean they attack us because of our light, and where there is Krills there is no diamonds... if they produce some light that attract them... maybe ?
Things in game Are more important and believable than that never appeared
Sky had a lot of terrifying concepts for us hahaha... there were extra creatures and mines but toned it down in favor of just crabs and krill
||Concepts may be added in later so I think they’re worthy of discussion||
How about we tone it up now? Getting bored of krills.
I’m saying!
Remember at the beginning of wasteland where the manta gets eaten? I think any appearance of light is either their food or their enemy
we could use concept art to be part of our theory, but sometimes we need to think highly of the things in game

I know journey isn’t sky... but in journey the krill adjacent creatures flee from too much light, but take out the cape people whenever seen. If a lot of light was exposed to the krill what do you all think will happen?
When I first saw Wasteland I looked around and noticed the place is a castle in a desert. Also the shipwreck area looks like a harbor. So it’s possible that’s where all the trading and shipments happened at. Also I could be wrong but I remember hearing some kind of seagull/bird noises at the shipwreck area.
The salute spirit’s memories also shows a spirit heading off on a boat.
So wasteland was a port city? Exporting what to where?
GW was a city or factory
To other places we don’t know anything about. But I believe shipwreck area was definitely a harbor.
I always thought it was a military base...
Maybe? The pipes in Wasteland are probably the sewer system. But other than that not sure how it could’ve been a factory?
The first area after social area in wasteland has temples similar to valley. When you oob out you see more buildings similar to valley
looking through these and you will find GW is a forbidden place
Oh yeah I remember those.
So we know the birds lead the way, we see them in forest and we see them in prairie... are they seen in valley after you leave the stadium?
I said this before but I was under the impression that the Golden wasteland was either a fortress or a metropolitan city. And from the old concept art and how close the waste is to the vault, I believe it could have been a fortress to protect the vault from invaders
Oh ok make sense. Or could it be possible that the city was here but the rest of GW was the military base of Sky ? The city got wiped out somehow ?
Maybe wasteland was a sub city of valley, a lower class area of sorts
looking into the whole journey of sky, we follow the birds’ steps except wasteland
uhhh, I guess the strong wind eye of wasteland just blows the birds apart and they reunite at the exit of graveyard
Yeah, which make me think going to GW was an accident. We were not intended to go there
ferryman doesn’t want to show us the sadden and dark history of sky
I think it became a base later on... there were refugees there, implying that it was habitable at one point. Also that spirit seems to be leaving wasteland by going back up the clouds towards valley
And yet we must learn it regardless
Ooooh that sounds like it makes more sense. It could have become more militarized as the years went on and darker times approached
Maybe as a resulting order from the king who had become corrupt in some way?
I think the ferryman simply did not know, isle’s shrine is left out of a lot of stuff and it’s so far away from wasteland they could have not seen it and sent us on our way
Crazy thing is, we still don’t know who they were fighting?
Is it not Darkness ?
Perhaps there wasn’t any actual enemy? Maybe the king had become paranoid in his corruption
whats popping yall
Yo, we talking about the wasteland
ok
maybe Ferryman wants the birds lead us to the Eden but accidentally the birds crashed at the Eye of GW
whos ferryman?
the king?
... you got me thinking, maybe there’s an upper level of wasteland were the birds travel, but the wind flushes us downward
This guy has a point XD
What if hide and seek spirit is even taller, and the chibi mask is the only thing that can make them shrink to acceptable size? XD
The birds could be flying above the clouds
Above the clouds maybe.
Birds get flushed with us nvm.. but aren’t seen under the clouds
they dieded
actually we see the birds in the end of graveyard
Heck, there are even birds in Eden
? You have a screenshot
They travel by pipe, super safe 
no
Its the graveyard entrentace to the battlefield
yes
Oh maybe it's same in GW ? But we don't see the pipe they use.
Are birds... large projections?
I didn’t realize there was grass in GW’s social space.
Of what ?
Just projections.. I say that cause they just fly, never land or rest, or follow us around like manta or butterflies
They land during the Bird Caller’s memory. I’ll go take a pic~
Oh I see.... Could the birds be some sort of "Lights of life" ? The river of life or something like that.
It’s strange cause that’s a memory... but they don’t interact with us in modern day. Are they even real??
All creatures seem to either be born of light, or by light’s lack.
Either the dev’s didn’t want to worry about collision boxes, or the fact that every creature we see slides through solid matter shows that they’re not like creatures we know.
I think the birds are mega bird
Oh yes like Megabird parts ! And they go back to Eden to merge back !
Bunch of minor birds
It’s possible, I suppose. All things seem to migrate back to the holy land’s light for rebirth.
Ah yes hh
Yes
Then there’s the small flock in home 🤔
Well we don't see any dark creatures during ascension so xjjsnd
But imagine.....crabs leap off the ground and fly back to dark orbit
The Dark creatures aren't affected by the circle of rebirth I think. It would go well with this concept of ying and yang going on.
Yeah they don’t
The opposite of a cycle is a lack of one
The dark creatures are cursed to roam this life until all is destroyed or saved
Possibly, I know that it can be a horrible curse
They don’t seem.....all that sentient.
I guess lack of renewal causes that
That would be a fun thought, that Krills used to be sentient people, but living to darn long turned them into animals.
Maybe. And since there is not much light around they suffer through it. If we stay in the theory that light and darkness can't live without the other.
They’ve been in that singular life for so long that it’s made them go insane perhaps? Like, they’re unresponsive to some things and aware to others(ie skykids and mantas)
But most light creature also seem like animals. And they go for rebirth too.
But those animals are of light, they can rebirth. Creatures of darkness don’t seem to do that
Im not sure if spirits are light based, but considering you can stand near active spirits and be recharged, im gonna say they are.
Light creatures do not attack, they heal, and respond to kids of light. Dont know how many times the manta in forest has saved my life 😭
Maybe their dead form is made of light. Since they’re waiting for us in orbit
Or it’s their residual life force/their state of being alleviated from their burdens.
In concept art, it explains that we’re purifying spirits by using our candle, which goes back to my thought that the spirits are tied to their past life due to a strong emotion.
0 they don’t even come to me when I manta call. Also I saved them from the darkness plant and no flight power. So I had to walk to a light source and almost lost all of my light.
They come to you on their own- experienced it enough tryna burn that plant on top of Light Miner's cave
also good morning lore chat-
Also the manta in valley help if you’re airborne
I know that but they aren’t helpful for that reason. They don’t come to you when you need them.
I think the spirits are trapped on sky kingdom due to the eden explosion. They look like statues just like the frozen sky kids in eden. When they get coated in the dark powder, they can’t fly to orbit.
Good morning to you. Evening for me.
Aw now that's not fair on them- mantas are being living beings too, you can't expect them to be ENTIRELY subservient
Well if they weren’t trapped then we would see no spirits in Sky. Expressions to get or anything.
That makes sense, since there’s darkness found in every realm except vault
but how many times have I freed the manta with 1 flap left and it just goes “ok see ya!” 
Places that are exposed to open air recover faster
And they raid Prairie villages, yoinking unsuspecting Skykids off their perches and sailing back to the clouds.
Mhm.
I'm sure that's not what they meant to do lmao
And it's not fair to assume they have the same level of sentience as a skid that can approach another skid in need of light
what
Not saying they AREN'T sentient to some degree tho
And the ones in Vault you have to race to the end or they will keep swishing you away from the candles....
so, what's the topic or smthng
😭😭😭 be nice to them they’re trying to help 😭😭😭
Not really much of one. Right now it’s just how mantas behave.
Regardless, they don’t give you light when you need it. Not a bad thing or a good thing. They just don’t.
”DOHOHOHO YOURE COMING WITH ME TO THE SKYYYY”
I guess the lesson is that not everybody can be Manta Whisperers lmao
That they target sky kids low on flight and swarm them seems to be some form of instinct or intelligence. Who know.
Also after the final quest in sanctuary, the manta flock comes to you and help if you’re dying in mid air
I
I mean, I think that butterflies are more helpful. But mantas, similar to the birds and butterflies and jellyfish don’t really seem to be aware of skids the same way skids are aware of them
how do you die in Sanctuary in mid-air
Not dying per say, more running out of wings
ooohhhhh
ye
If you scream at them they start to swarm
All the manta swarm spin behind you in sanctuary. Are we sure they are not trying to eat us?
do any of the creatures we see even need to eat
Uh
Nah mantas aren’t as loyal as butterflies. They come to your beckoning deep call or your hand when using the butterfly emote.😌
light
Maybe they just need light to life.
Emphasis on the word need btw
Prolly not. Maybe krills eat the pain of children, because they sure don’t seem to care about the light after its bashed out of us.
they feed off our fear and frustration lmao
Which is why using the home trick is ethical
like pLEASE JUST LET US BURN THIS GIANT CORPSE PLANT
Where? In sanc?
Nah- Graveyard
Krills don’t like beings with light ex: skykids and mantas.
oh
cremated sneak stance
The gy plant lmaoo
The true final boss plant in wasteland
It's fun to burn it
The big plant in Sanctuary I don’t even bother burning it. It’s too big so I wait for it to be burned when server hopping.
anyway- if a creature made of light eats light does that count as food- like yeah I know they have mouths but we don't see them actually eat
cremated belly rub emote
How do we know thats not their eyes?
Same goes for anything else really
I'm in class djhebdbenwnsnxnehs
Mmmm I think they more like absorb it. Like frog through their "skin".
So the real question is. Does anything in sky need food??? The spirits in ark farmed but never ate!
They have mouths because look at that thing that is a mouth and I find it terrifying
MOUTH
Aside from dubious manta light spot, I doubt there is a single mouth in all of sky
do you not see the thing I just sent-
Do they speak through emote then?
Aside from the dubious manta light spot-
that is a m o u t h
I don’t think they do. I think it’s just light or darkness that the two kinds of creatures feed off of.
yes mouth
No I'm not talking about the light spot
The mantas are secretly the descendants of Kermit the Frog
is Kermit the King
If something doesn’t eat is it alive?
KING KERMIT
Depends on what constitutes as alive in this universe
We know mantas leave bones so they can die
True
Oh wait. Bird call feeds birds.
Since sky ppl have graves then that implies corpses
photosynthesis
And the dead bird in valley means they can die as well (doesn’t decay which is REALLY WEIRD)
Eat vague white light pellets
The only creatures that are alive in Sky are anything but the spirits.
The bird in the citadel is an LA resource
dead undecaying bodies are.. Odd..
Is it a real bird?
It's an ode to old Sky,, it's just.. there
Either way it means swallows exist somewhere
Why did they call old home space Aviary?
I will take this along with old Prairie and Forest face, and office poster for “technically still in the game” points.
Homespace is different from aviary hh
Used to be a bird nest
I was never there and I miss it 
I want. A big nest in home island.
Big nest for giant skid cuddle pile
It can be a gift from the spirits because they just wanted to see what would happen.
Wait lore xndjs
I think what happened, was the devs sacrificed space for a day and night cycle that lined up with the skykid’s timezone
I like home island better anyway. Its cozy.
I just want home space to have a place where you can play games with your friends. So far skating is one thing but that won’t stay forever.
I heard once the distant islands where where the opening takes place, is that true?
Oh ye- talked about that yesterday
I just wish it lined up with lore? It’s a time dependent liminal space where kids pop in and out of existence
Maybe... but like the cycle doesn't work that well. I mean, even if I'm in the middle of the afternoon (when I play mostly) I always get night XD
It actually existed way before homespace island, at the first it was only the loading area
There'd be an island with a portal in front of you, your skid would hold the hand of an npc at some point. When you enter the portal, you'll start the game
You gotta tap the spirit again, it switches to night when interacting with a spirit, it only changes though when it’s not night for your time
I don’t know how it would work lore wise. Your kid shoots down from orbit each time you log on? Your kid wakes up? Dunno.
That island grew into homespace that we know today hhh
Random thought
What if those realms were one big area, but then continental drift stuff happened-
homespace turns to night so we can see the stars....
I think what we should take away here is that homespace has an actual daylight cycle
Homespace seems pretty much created for sky kids. Imagine spirits jotting in for unlocks and thinking “this is where they live?”
Quest master—
I was thinking maybe like.... stuff on the walls, and maybe a giant homing beakon/ shrine... the last thing the elders built because they knew we were coming
Quest giver is designated parent for the season.
I think they are in one big area but it’s a cloud. Because I don’t know if it’s true but according to this all the realms in Sky are in a cloud.
Aight
They said something about the portals for each realm supposed to look like a progression, some gates being older. Maybe home island was a long time in progress.
LMAO,, off-season questmaster giving the new season questmaster a pat in the back and a "good luck for what ever you'll see there"
Or they just exported some portals.
Hello? Is it me you're looking for? I can see it in your eyes
beware of the tables
||Beware the prophecy ||
Also I learned about this bug and another reason I think all the realms take place in a cloud is because Hidden Forest is.
Isnt that more just game dev stuff?
This is the coolest bug I’ve ever seen 
It is....really cute to think about forest being in a cloud though
I want it on my desk
Forest at least is in a cloud but what about the sea-level realms of Isle and Wasteland?
Not to mention Sanctuary
It’s super easy to do. Place a table on the umbrella when the spirit appears and then zoom in. Your screen will zoom out into infinity and when zooming back in you’ll see the cloud and then Hidden Forest inside of it.
Well judging from the image I think they are. You’d have to just zoom out really far like I did in Hidden Forest.
Firstly I don't really know how to do that and secondly the horizon in both realms and Sanc suggests wide open oceans
Unless you're suggesting even the oceans are condensed on the clouds?
Yeah, maybe some areas they are in a cloud some are just sitting there.
When you rocket out of the planets orbit, you can see sanctuary is within an ocean
The base of the game is set in an ocean, you can see it when you’re in oobs
Yeah..
I'll leave it to you guys who have better experiences in OOB then- I'm not fit for OOB-ing XD
Now that I think about it you can just rocket out of a map to get a zoom out of the realm.
and I generally do not want to rocket out of a map so again- I'll leave that to you guys
Rocket ship 🚀: the only way to travel 
Wait does anyone have a pic of what Eden looks like when you rocket from social space in Wasteland?
hi folks
hi icecream mountain
Oh gosh forgot to remove spoiler hhhhh
Hemlo henlo
wut do we have here...
Cardboard cutout eden 😔
o...kay...
I also have that
I brought that up because from that view it looks a giant cloud that connects Valley, Wasteland, Vault, and Eden.
Uhm
i think
Well we can also interpret the drawing as that, yes all the realms were in the clouds at a time, but some of them or some parts of them fell off the clouds ? Maybe after the corruption of the King ?
Valley is ona a cloud
Ah the realms
You’d have to look around at that spot because that view alone isn’t good enough to see that.
valley is a mountain... i think...
It is, if you go oob or do the Valley race you’ll see that.
Yes everything is in a cloud except isle
Hm
thank you
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