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pseudo heart
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Yes prenc

queen locust
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i'd take my own pics but I haven't completed the Fire Trial yet-

icy spruce
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O

hushed steeple
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Ah. So its with the idea prince was first sky kid. True true.

queen locust
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so credits to the owner of these pics qwq

lethal stump
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it seems the castle was constructed while the skykid/prince was present - it wasnt there in the air trial mural but it was in the fire mural

compact olive
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Wait
Wait
Wait

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Hold up... back up

pseudo heart
hard minnow
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In the 3rd pic it shows isle having water before

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And loke sailing on a boat to prophecy cave

compact olive
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There are dead ancestors in the trials.

pastel brookBOT
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the power was in you all along, @compact olive

hard minnow
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Right?

queen locust
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god i keep sending things out of order I apologize-

lethal stump
compact olive
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There’s something very wrong with this.
The Star child is among ancestors in the murals. Ancestors are dead in the trials.

rapid juniper
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Lol sorry late reply but I was talking about the fingers

compact olive
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What happens when someone finishes the trials?

hard minnow
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I thought they might be an old thing we only recently got access to?

pseudo heart
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They get a shiny boi

hard minnow
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They might have been around before

queen locust
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They're told that they've honored the wisdoms

icy spruce
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many theorise said that they become the leader or smthng

compact olive
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Why would regular ancestor children be trained to do the thing that only a Star child succeeds at?

pseudo heart
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Avatar ™

lethal stump
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i have a theory about that, although admittedly its not based on much

pseudo heart
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Probably because they didn't know that

queen locust
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Prophecies are fickle and don't really say everything so for all the Prophets knew there was going to be A child but weren't told which

hushed steeple
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There are 8 dead figures in the murals.......and 8 students of the prophets.....

compact olive
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So they knew ancestor children wouldn’t cut the mustard. Not until they were given a fallen star child.

lethal stump
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imo ancestors were trying to complete the trials in search of the true ruler of sky - thats what the prophecy was about. the one who completes all the trials is the true ruler of sky. megabird sent the child of light and, well, being a god the child succeeded and was crowned king of the sky kingdom

compact olive
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That’s dark on so many levels

pseudo heart
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Welcome 2 da lore chat

icy spruce
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ya

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but remember: It's only the surface

gilded spoke
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TIP OF THE ICEBERG

queen locust
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I mean- think about it as if you were a Prophet that was given foresight

gilded spoke
compact olive
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Okay Bricky I agree with what you said.

queen locust
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I doubt they'd known that there was literally going to be a god figure that fell from the skies

compact olive
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One ring to rule them and all

pseudo heart
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Uhhhh isle cave murals

gilded spoke
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ACTUALLY THEY FELL FROM ORBIT

hard minnow
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Oh heck there are dead ppl i never realised because looking at the murals the swirls all blend together

queen locust
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key word was literally

pseudo heart
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Oop

icy spruce
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it's ok

hushed steeple
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I can’t help but find the idea that they wanted a starchild to try the trial because they got all their students killed a little funny. Not the dead students part

queen locust
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Prophets: okay so obviously our own children didn't make the cut what do

compact olive
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Okay so a god child is brought down. To beat the trials and.... rule...
but... darkness was part of the trials...

hard minnow
queen locust
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Glowy Boi: allow me to introduce myself

hushed steeple
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Exactly

lethal stump
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this is giving me ideas for Prophet Angst

icy spruce
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yes, angst

queen locust
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you mean there's more of it-

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give-

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pls- I need to feel my soul back in my body-

gilded spoke
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the prophet's made the water the mantas the greenery and flames

lethal stump
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~~i'll write a thing, you'll see pPopcorn ~~

gilded spoke
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if we follow that sky came after journey

icy spruce
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debunked

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Devs debunked that Sky=Journey

pseudo heart
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Journey ≠ Sky

icy spruce
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yes

lethal stump
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journey and sky are in separate universes

queen locust
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and may I interject that Sky has nothing to do with Journey lore-wise

hushed steeple
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How do you do the highlight in yellow reply thing

gilded spoke
queen locust
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oh yeah- darkness being part of the trials right Oz-

pseudo heart
icy spruce
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darkwoms

queen locust
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I think that goes to illustrate even more that darkness really was just a natural part of their world

compact olive
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Okay so the child of light is crowned ruler... and... vault is already made(to be made) and so is wasteland... so the prophecy was already written on the wall.

pseudo heart
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Dust bunnies

gilded spoke
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maybe the prophet tests were made during the darkness

hushed steeple
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Anyway- in the credits, there are more planets visible, or maybe they are moons

gilded spoke
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to maybe test the skykids

lethal stump
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i wish i could stay, but tis dinner time SkyFaint

hard minnow
icy spruce
pseudo heart
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Well it was believed that the prophecy cave have existed before the kingdom even existed

queen locust
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Mmkay bai Brick

compact olive
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But if it was made to test sky kids why did the ancestors send their children in to die?

icy spruce
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Bye Brick, have a nice dinner I guess

hard minnow
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Magbe they didn't know about it properly

queen locust
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I don't think they really even knew what the Prince was when he'd fallen and took the Trials

pseudo heart
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I don't think it was made just for the skids

gilded spoke
queen locust
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It being made for skids is odd considering nothing disastrous has happened

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And skids were made specifically because a disaster struck

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Our objective says that much

hard minnow
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Maybe it wasn't made for them but they fit the bill fsr

pseudo heart
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Ye

quiet crystal
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Hehe yep

gilded spoke
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they test the sky kids ability to withstand the winds do parkour maybe test there weakness to darkness water and then test them with darkness itself

queen locust
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They fit the bill like several millenia later

hard minnow
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But then why 🤔

queen locust
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Riddle me this though if they were made for the skids then exactly why would the Trials have existed since the very origin of the Kingdom where there was no need for skids

hard minnow
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Prophecy? Predicting the need for them or something

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But prophecies might not give all the info

gilded spoke
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yeah maybe i think that's what the guide is for

hard minnow
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So they thought it was their children meant to do the trials

queen locust
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Observe the murals again- they ended showing us the Kingdom at its peak

gilded spoke
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good point

queen locust
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We fell well after the Kingdom fell

hard minnow
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Hmmm

gilded spoke
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i think the guide predicts the future???

willow shoal
pseudo heart
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By "we" u mean our generation of skids??

compact olive
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Okay so let’s put a time line on this

pseudo heart
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Timelines lmao

gilded spoke
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memories

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hecc

hushed steeple
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Its probably not for skids considering by the time skids get there, all the elements have already been given away, and also, it specifically takes away their capes.

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wait thats proof it was made for them

gilded spoke
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we are the avatar

queen locust
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I don't think so? The Ancestors were capeless, why wouldn't the Trials adjust for a skid so that it'd be fair

compact olive
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Ancestors evolve or are born or are made...
They come up with a prophecy and it’s chalk full of drawings of a civilization yet to be created
send their children to die against the darkness
Sky kid comes down. Aces the test
Sky kid Crowned ruler

queen locust
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And I doubt that the first skid that fell had a cape when he'd taken the Trials either

gilded spoke
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as i said the guide may predict the future

hard minnow
gilded spoke
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maybe they are the first sky kids

queen locust
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and may I interject once again that the guide shows us the Kingdom at its peak

hard minnow
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So what does that mean

hushed steeple
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I think that would be plausible that its about events yet to come........if eden castle was broken on the mountain as it is now.

gilded spoke
queen locust
compact olive
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So I need everyone to help me place when the elders came down to sky in that time line?

hushed steeple
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Air trial like “heres your reward! Flying! Bet you never felt that before!”

gilded spoke
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also its very interesting that they don't use diamond technology

compact olive
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  1. Ancestors evolve or are born or are made...
  2. They come up with a prophecy and it’s chalk full of drawings of a civilization yet to be created
  3. send their children to die against the darkness
  4. Sky kid comes down. Aces the test
  5. Sky kid Crowned rulers.
hard minnow
queen locust
hard minnow
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Yeah fair

gilded spoke
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maybe they predicted the diamond technology to be corrupted???

queen locust
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Where in the Trials or the murals suggested that though Willow

gilded spoke
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idk come to think stickerGloomy

compact olive
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There’s a diamond ♦️ at vault in the mural

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And this

hard minnow
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Can we get that mural pic again pls?

willow shoal
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Mural shows everythingpSkyPeek

hushed steeple
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The very last mural show the diamond nice and safe, tucked in the mountain

compact olive
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After wasteland and hidden forest era

gilded spoke
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corpse plant theory

pseudo heart
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I've been summoned

willow shoal
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diamond is nice and safe???

hard minnow
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Yeah, it seems all good then

hushed steeple
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At that point.....I think it was.

compact olive
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The diamond is made of animal remains

hard minnow
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Ut what happened after to mess it up?

compact olive
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They predicted the cruelty the elders would bring to their people

gilded spoke
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anyways the eden diamond was representing that the diamond technology caused them to appear???

hard minnow
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Thanks

queen locust
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oop sorry i was a little late I'm still in class

hushed steeple
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The king corrupted it.......sommme how? Well for one a city sized castle was built on the mountain. Maybe they did experiments on it.

queen locust
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The Eden diamond doesn't seem to be present? idk that diamond looked like it was the one from the Vault Elevator more than anything

willow shoal
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maybe we can put ark murals and cave murals together and compare

hard minnow
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Maybe they used it too much if it was a power source

hushed steeple
gilded spoke
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as i we discussed the there was so much diamond technology that the kingdom got corrupted

queen locust
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yep- Vault Elevator diamond-

hushed steeple
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Vault has a castle on it?

hard minnow
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Right the diamond tech

queen locust
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Vault's near that castle at least- somewhere below it

gilded spoke
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eye of eden is actually a fallen kingdom

willow shoal
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Vault is a memory library

hard minnow
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Isnt vault theorised to be a hallucination or something? Of the mountain

queen locust
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Notice the platform underneath it

gilded spoke
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oo elevator

willow shoal
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NIGHT CITY

hard minnow
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But those 4 things sticking up

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What r they meant to be

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The thrones at summit?

hushed steeple
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Hhhh and....the memory diamonds......and Vault sitting there right outside of it.......dang it

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It really is vault isnt it?

gilded spoke
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maybe the main skid actually got so powered up by diamond technology that it ttracted the darkness

hard minnow
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Ut there's only 4

compact olive
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Okay this may help

queen locust
compact olive
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This may help those who need to know how the Eden diamond ♦️ is situated

hushed steeple
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The castle still a lil confusing though. Guess I have converted into no longer believing its eden though

hard minnow
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So then the thrones aren't there then?

willow shoal
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Castle is Eden

hard minnow
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What do you think it is then? I'm curious

gilded spoke
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anyways the castle was so big it almost reached orbit

compact olive
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Eden castle broken in atmosphere here —x
Eden storm and crystal ♦️ here -———-x
Vault elevator here —————————-x

queen locust
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The real ones probably aren't if Vault really is a projection- the shrines I mean

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They show up near the end of Ascension too

hard minnow
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I have eto go thanks for good discussion

willow shoal
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The Vault is built for skykids

compact olive
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People think the Eden crystal is above Eden but it’s the opposite

hushed steeple
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It has castles like eden, it has a diamond like eden.....it has the presumed Eden elder above it.....it has memory cubes like vault.....it has a diamond like vault elevator.......it has Vault elder sitting outside of it. Hhhhhh

compact olive
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It’s in the belly of Eden and the castle was blown into the atmosphere

pseudo heart
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Aaaaa

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Lemme bring back

willow shoal
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I need a model of edenpSquint

queen locust
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the belly of the beast if you will lmao

pseudo heart
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The eden shrine

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I still think the diamond was supposed to be there

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But it slid off lmaoooo

queen locust
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iT SLID OFF AAJSKAJKS

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bro maybe that's why it broke-

gilded spoke
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anyways they maybe farmed the crystals from eden before darkness when they were blue

compact olive
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What do you mean by “before darkness” ?

pseudo heart
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The blue stuff is old beta resource but it's a good lore material ig

gilded spoke
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like the era before the darkness

hushed steeple
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Did they really paint their stupid elevator on their prophecy mural.

gilded spoke
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also when they turned red that was it.

compact olive
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I’m still not following. The darkness existed in the prophecy trials which was way before any buildings had been built

queen locust
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vault very extra-

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and darkness isn't an age- darkness always just existed

pseudo heart
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Yes

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Corruption

willow shoal
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darkness is natural

pseudo heart
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Maybe it's the eden shrine xhhbwbs

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The thing below eden

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Castle djnsdnbx

willow shoal
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I still can't understand the meaning of those two ancestors' memories

compact olive
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I don’t think it’s natural. At least not to the centralized point of view of the protagonists of this game (child of light, Meghan’s bird, the sky kids)

gilded spoke
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when they used too much of it the diamonds the darkness part of the diamond thats the manmade part

queen locust
pseudo heart
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« the world of sky has a rich ecology of light and dark » implies that darkness is a natural part of the world just as light is

gilded spoke
pseudo heart
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Bringing this bacc again

willow shoal
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If they had candles, why they still produced diamonds???

quiet crystal
gilded spoke
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in the pointing candlemaker

hushed steeple
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Darkness is natural, darkness finding and overpowering the sky kingdom might not be though

willow shoal
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can't the candles spread light power?

queen locust
compact olive
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That’s what I mean kamilico

queen locust
compact olive
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Darkness is not natural if darkness corrupts light

icy spruce
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h

compact olive
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Not to the central characters who are all of light

gilded spoke
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the voyager is actually mining corpses i think?

queen locust
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They're made for a variety of things like levitating structures and opening gates and such

willow shoal
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so what caused it?

compact olive
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Who’s main focus is to bring things back to light

gilded spoke
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and they find the mural

pseudo heart
gilded spoke
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the voyager rejected because he realized the elders betrayed them???

queen locust
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what

willow shoal
compact olive
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Who’s the voyager ?

queen locust
pseudo heart
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Darkness is natural

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BUT

gilded spoke
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this emote

quiet crystal
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Mhm

willow shoal
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the Eden and isle Are sad stories while Vault is sweet and honorable

pseudo heart
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It started to overpower light, breaking the balance which the eden diamond is reliant on (my theory)

compact olive
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Wait,!!!!!!! I found a flaw in the lore !!!!

willow shoal
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Megan's balance

queen locust
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whelp- time to fill the hole I guess

gilded spoke
pseudo heart
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I think it was gradual, not like,, exponential????? Is that the word

compact olive
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Heres the flaw.... why is the ancestor with the boat headdress wearing a diamond ♦️ of power on his forehead BEFORE they ever found the prince/child of light?

hard minnow
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Sorry someone mentioned Megan's bird? What might that be

willow shoal
pseudo heart
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Megabird

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The deity of Sky

hard minnow
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Right ok

queen locust
pseudo heart
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We lovingly call her Megan here

gilded spoke
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my theory is that they farmed crystals (when they were blue) and when the manmade part of the diamond started taking control?

hard minnow
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I thought you were talking about something else for a sec

gilded spoke
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it turned red

compact olive
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I’m not sure if that’s a joke or a rebuttal

queen locust
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We don't see the diamonds on masks actually do anything

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It's a rebuttal

hard minnow
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I think they're mainly decoration

willow shoal
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Megan----a creation mode playerSkyCall

compact olive
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The diamonds represent their powersource

hard minnow
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Or haven't been used for anything else as of yet

pseudo heart
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The ancestors knew, they felt it, the corruption. The manta juicing, disconnection from the Megabird, the diamond, I think the war was the last straw

compact olive
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That’s why boat headdresses have diamonds on it as boats use diamonds to fly

hushed steeple
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All the elders but twins have diamonds on their masks.

pseudo heart
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Plants were literally coming out of their bodies

hard minnow
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So why don't the twins have them?

gilded spoke
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don't we have diamonds on our masks too?

compact olive
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Yes we come after though

hard minnow
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I always thought the twins were somehow disconnected? I dunno

exotic berry
pseudo heart
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I saw somewhere that their masks has to be like that because they're uhh athletes?

hard minnow
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Or damaged

icy spruce
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I mean, it says that the twins wears a light mask since they athletes

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ye

exotic berry
hard minnow
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Cause the one side being damaged etc

hushed steeple
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They are athletes, and just wear comfortable things. or maybe they where supposed to have a diamond headpeice but then ended up as 2

pseudo heart
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If any elders are disconnected, then it must be isle elder

queen locust
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actually wait a second I might disagree on the masks but the boats are sus

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The diamonds I mean

compact olive
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Elaborate

pseudo heart
gilded spoke
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I think the twins knew about the corruption on the diamonds so they weren't that effected because they didn't use diamond technology and only on dreams village...?

queen locust
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You mentioned earlier that you found it weird that they used boats that flew before the child of light fell

compact olive
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Yes

icy spruce
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huh

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h u h

hard minnow
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So..?

queen locust
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There are a few murals in Isle that look like they'd depicted the Prophets

pseudo heart
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Where

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gilded spoke
queen locust
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BUT I can't be sure if they were drawn before or AFTER Prophecy

compact olive
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The child of light comes After they already have the power of diamond flight. Which is / was strictly a gift of creatures to the prince /child of light

hard minnow
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Oh rlly? Guess I never noticed

icy spruce
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Prolly after prophecy?

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Since kid fell and stuff

queen locust
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These two right here

compact olive
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No the ancestor that finds the child of light in isle... he’s wearing a boat headdress

gilded spoke
icy spruce
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or Isle just has the power to levitate stuff hhhh

queen locust
gilded spoke
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||i think Isle and valley elders are innocent||

hard minnow
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Those 4 kinda look like the generic ancestors/spirits though

icy spruce
compact olive
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Okay here’s something that weird please some one clarify

queen locust
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The Prophets are still just Ancestors though

hard minnow
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Yeah ok they mightbe seen like that and not anymore special than the other ancestors

compact olive
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The mural in isle shows a star falling. Two ancestors who prayed for it and then find it after it’s fallen and 4 ancestors bringing the light back to the elder temple.... so... a star falls in the ancestor spirit memory and that Star is a child....

queen locust
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oh yeah wait lemme pull those up

hard minnow
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So they were the ones praying for it?

queen locust
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assume I sent them backwards ksjkajks

compact olive
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It’s okay

queen locust
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also see the three over there

hushed steeple
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Seems pretty solid that exact scene is the two spirits finding the kid

queen locust
compact olive
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Yeah... so... then that means there’s more than one fallen child

queen locust
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They show up here too

hushed steeple
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The prollem is that there would be a bunch of white glowboys falling all over while we assume the one they find is the special little prince.

compact olive
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According to the mural on the giant rock by the white candles in isle there are 4 different children being carried to the temple

hushed steeple
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Or maybe they all look different and white glowboy was just a special case

queen locust
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Or maybe they aren't children at all but I haven't been able to prove that just yet

hard minnow
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So what exactly is the child in the memory?

hushed steeple
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I think more than the elders and prince fell. “Constellations are composed of elders and spirits”. You put the spirits back up, but surely, there was spirits that fell also?

queen locust
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have we... ever actually confirmed that the Ancestors are native to that land

icy spruce
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don't think so

hushed steeple
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Well there are some people who see the stars fall. Already living there.

icy spruce
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ye

gentle meadow
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Didn't the kingdom literally fall- oh

compact olive
queen locust
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oh not that kind of fall- that fall happens later

compact olive
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This is not vague

hushed steeple
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But maybe the dead go to become stars and the spirits in the sky ARE normal people who died on the ground

compact olive
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Look at these three pictures

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It’s pretty straight forward

gilded spoke
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again i think the elders are the antagonists pretending to help the skid??? ||except isle and valley they good||

queen locust
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valley just kinda seems chill with everything-

hushed steeple
compact olive
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😳

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I figure it out

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It’s the stalk ....

queen locust
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the wha-

exotic berry
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Took close up pics of Twins if we’re still discussing them. Includes prosthetic arms.

Also, I don’t think the shiny orbs in the boats are flow boys, but raw essence. I think falling-star-child is what led them to discover light power.

And I don’t think the pair were praying for him, but were praying (in general, not to anything specific) for aid in their troubles, and Megan sent falling-star-child.

All my opinion though.

compact olive
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The baby bringer 👶 🍼

queen locust
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oh- stork-

compact olive
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Sorry autocorrect

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Yes the stork!

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They prey for children...

exotic berry
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The stork that stalks.

compact olive
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How they multiply

gilded spoke
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||orbit is the stork||

weak wharf
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Megan the Stork-

hushed steeple
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Drops babies on unsuspecting old people

queen locust
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Ancestors: oh great Megan help us

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Megan: drops a whole child

exotic berry
queen locust
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Ancestors: well whatever works I suppose-

queen locust
weak wharf
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Yeetus the foetus-

hard minnow
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If Megan leaves a blessing u better accept it

hushed steeple
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I just feel like we all fall from the sky when we’re created. I mean : the beginning just us nyooming down upon the world of sky. Maybe we be stars. That’s enough brain work for my single brain cell.sqwarlockDed

gilded spoke
hard minnow
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I mean when you're reborn after going through eden you look like a falling star so?

compact olive
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Yes that’s why they put the kids through the trials. They think they’re all special

hard minnow
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Same being created?

compact olive
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Cause they all fell from the sky

exotic berry
queen locust
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the prophecy school for gifted children

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send your children here today

exotic berry
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Kingledor the grand dean

hushed steeple
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I think after some spirits fell, they prolly just lived normal human lives and made more people.

hard minnow
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You know what happens to gifted children...

exotic berry
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Juicer

icy spruce
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We guarantee that your gifted kids won't die :D

hushed steeple
compact olive
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Every ancestor has a place in the Star constellation 🌌

gilded spoke
gentle meadow
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So there could be people living down below and people just yeeting kids from the sky

compact olive
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We all came from Meghan

gentle meadow
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Or no idk my brain isnt working

hard minnow
icy spruce
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no

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we must

gilded spoke
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no

icy spruce
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we need brain juice

queen locust
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the kids don't deserve death-

compact olive
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Every person was once a star

weak wharf
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ThE mAnTa jUiCEr-

hard minnow
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Noooo

gilded spoke
exotic berry
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Did we want twin pics?

icy spruce
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dunno

hushed steeple
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Beginning cutscene noises

hushed steeple
weak wharf
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Oh my god Manta Juicer's the Sky equivalent of Pear Wiggler-

gentle meadow
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Noooo pFIRE

hard minnow
#

Why do I feel like I know what that is

gilded spoke
#

pMoth ➡️ pBuffMoth

#

after trails

hushed steeple
#

I do like how the twins alters reveal their arm and eye situation long before anyone notices by actually looking at them.

queen locust
#

i turn around for a minute and I see the phrase Pear Wiggler

#

what happened-

compact olive
#

So Meghan houses souls and drops them and they grow up to become ancestors who then receive more Star kids and ancestors continue to raise them... maybe that’s what the iceskaters life memories are all about. Growing up

hard minnow
#

I feel like I should know what pear wiggler is - oh well

hushed steeple
#

we look the same at the start

queen locust
#

Postman: now I shall teach you how to stalk your senpai

hard minnow
#

Valuable life lessons

gilded spoke
hushed steeple
#

I think most of the elders are teddy bears.

exotic berry
queen locust
#

or their flat green hill hair sibling

hushed steeple
#

Also on the Dora twin, her fake arm has a more complex dealie on the shoulder than her brothers, which is just a few segments

#

Dutch windmills

gilded spoke
#

They reject diamond technology?

hard minnow
#

I wonder why they're different

hushed steeple
#

Nah I think the elders all homies

#

Cyborg cockroaches

gilded spoke
queen locust
#

To be frank I don't think there's too many that rejected diamond technology

#

All the realms used it for pretty significant locations

hard minnow
#

Is there evidence of having/not having it in valley?

queen locust
#

Even Isle- the realm furthest out- used a sizeable amount of diamond tech

hard minnow
#

I don't pay enough attention aa

hushed steeple
#

You know the gold statues above the outside of the exit to the races? You only see them a second, and its hard to turn around after the race starts.......but Im pretty sure they only have 1 arm each too.

queen locust
exotic berry
queen locust
#

And some of the obstacles

hard minnow
#

Oh riiiiight

gilded spoke
hard minnow
#

They've got the diamonds in em right

queen locust
#

The Village of dreams had two separate ski lifts

exotic berry
queen locust
#

that doesn't look like rebellion to me-

#

or maybe it was and it was just kind of put there because of how far out it is

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Notice where the village is situated, they kinda needed those ski lifts

gilded spoke
hushed steeple
#

Yeti senpai, do you want to help me overthrow the elders?

gilded spoke
hushed steeple
hard minnow
#

How would you even overthrow the elders?

queen locust
hushed steeple
supple sluice
#

Uh.. What did i come back to

hard minnow
#

I'd tell you if only I knew

queen locust
exotic berry
#

Oh hey, there’s a good pic of the kakashi twin’s chest diamond. Got a pic of dora’s chest diamond.

supple sluice
#

Oh....

I like the ship fuel!

#

Pffff uhhhhhhh

kind pagoda
queen locust
#

anywho-

gilded spoke
queen locust
#

mommy megan the Elders are playing mean again what do

bitter shale
#

Yo wayward vagabond where did you find the original picture for that meme-

gilded spoke
bitter shale
#

I n e e d it

hard minnow
#

Okay I'm going fr at least for a bit gotta finish my cr

bitter shale
#

The original picture

hard minnow
#

M a n t a j u i c e r

soft hamlet
#

Lmao, why y’all saying that elders are all homies

bitter shale
#

@weak wharf where did you find the original picture for that meme aaaahhEyes

soft hamlet
#

And what’s happening here lmao

hard minnow
#

We want the manta juicer

gilded spoke
hard minnow
#

Garnish

hushed steeple
#

“The elders know each other because they came from the same place, they go to christmas parties together and hang out on weekends” -totally lore doc, yep, no alterations.💦

bitter shale
#

Where- where did you even get that-

weak wharf
#

It's from the Sky beta concept art-

icy spruce
#

w h a t

hard minnow
#

Ok bye 100% real

icy spruce
#

bye

soft hamlet
gilded spoke
icy spruce
#

what

exotic berry
#

The juicer.

icy spruce
#

yes

bitter shale
exotic berry
#

What was the topic, by the way?

queen locust
#

uh- overthrowing the Elders and Elders having get-togethers

gilded spoke
#

we were talking about abuse from elders to valley elder

bitter shale
#

manta j u i c e

bitter shale
hushed steeple
#

I think the missing stuff from Valley elders are natural. Well. A natural side affect of something that was not supposed to happen.

exotic berry
weak wharf
exotic berry
#

Like Isle Elder’s mask rejuvenating when exposed to the light.

gilded spoke
#

||i explained that the elders abused the valley elder because they realized that diamond energy=bad||

soft hamlet
#

Isle elder : Geoffrey
Prairie elder : Philip Banks
Forest elder : Hillary Banks
Valley elders : Ashley Banks and Will Smith
Wasteland elder : Carlton Banks
Vault elder : Vivian Banks

rose gorge
#

what

hushed steeple
#

That they would take out each’s opposite eye and arm?

queen locust
rose gorge
#

man i just thought they got split in half by the fall

rose gorge
#

and then improvised. adapted. overcame

soft hamlet
#

Duh.

hushed steeple
gilded spoke
#

but valley elders was more cruel

exotic berry
weak wharf
#

It seems more like they lost it via getting split into 2 pieces-
Since there probably wouldn't be enough material to give both of them to have complete bodies-

queen locust
#

Isle Elder though- looked entirely intentional

hushed steeple
gilded spoke
hushed steeple
#

Yea

gilded spoke
#

maybe hes trying to tell us that the elders abused him?

hushed steeple
#

When you put them side by side, they do look split. Elders exist as they always have existed, but I still think something went off about their creation or something and got split into 2 from existence till now.

weak wharf
#

Maybe they had internal conflict that lead to the split.
Or (TW: Mental illness) ||Dissociative Identity Disorder|| who knows-

hushed steeple
#

Poor Isle with the broken face. While I don’t personally think any one did that to him, it must suck being stuck like that for ages.

exotic berry
queen locust
#

Isle: I'm blind and these birds are getting hella annoying someone help

hushed steeple
#

He stands pretty strong after getting it too.

gilded spoke
hushed steeple
#

more stable than wasteland

#

The sky kid actually goes “easy now” when wasteland stands pCry

weak wharf
#

Wasteland Elder: "God I'm old."
S.Kid: "Yes I know slow down-"

bitter shale
#

I think valley elder was meant to be one soul cleaved into two bodies

#

That abuse theory can work too

#

But man... i cant imagine them being abused sqwarlockDed

hushed steeple
#

Same.

vestal swift
#

I have a theory that the twins were born connected at the shoulder with only one working eye each

#

And then they got separated somehow

queen locust
#

Yeye

gilded spoke
vestal swift
#

Yes

hushed steeple
#

Theory: sky kids are illusions they are actually a pack of circle creatures pretending to be (this is a joke)

#

WHeeeeeEEEEEeeeze

bitter shale
#

According to great Kadal

#

Conjoined form

sacred rapids
#

I have returned

#

what'sa goin on?

icy spruce
#

no idea

sacred rapids
#

cool

gilded spoke
#

talking about how valley elders got abused

sacred rapids
#

is this about how there arms look in eden?

bitter shale
#

You know the popular myth of twins being one soul cleaved into two

sacred rapids
#

with the uh
yeah

bitter shale
#

I played enough Fatal Frame 2 to know this kind of stuff

teal hatch
#

Ooh

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Interesting

queen locust
#

wonder what they got cleaved with

hushed steeple
#

Their arms, their eyes, their alter, the statues above the race ect.

#

I think the twins are just twins
don’t hurt me

weak wharf
#

The mountain too-

teal hatch
#

Is this about how they would stand in the old Eden?

queen locust
#

Nah nah- I'm with them being born twins right off the gate

bitter shale
#

Reika said there is another tower aside citadel

It suppose to be twin towers

queen locust
#

that's two avatars of chaos and destruction for the price of one

heady gazelle
#

What if the Valley Twins are REALLY those two creepy twins in the Shining once they grew up?

sacred rapids
#

no you see
since they were stars they fell on the mountain peak and broke in 2

hushed steeple
bitter shale
sacred rapids
#

a book/movie made by steven king

hushed steeple
#

That needs...in lore doc. If its true.

queen locust
#

THERE'S ANOTHER GIGANTIC, BOMBASTIC MODEL OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM SOMEWHERE

bitter shale
hushed steeple
#

B o m b a s t i c

queen locust
#

oh god what would that clock look like

sacred rapids
hushed steeple
sacred rapids
#

but big

heady gazelle
weak flint
#

Is sky dying?

bitter shale
#

Anyone wanna see the concept of twins in fatal frame 2?

heady gazelle
#

WHOA i didn't know they would pin it :O

bitter shale
gilded spoke
#

i have a drawing of valley elder before the split will show later

bitter shale
#

twins in fatal frame-

sacred rapids
#

eden noo

bitter shale
hushed steeple
bitter shale
hushed steeple
bitter shale
#

god taht would be terrifying

#

forced union

heady gazelle
#

maybe it was attempted at one point?

sacred rapids
#

king "you know what, no"
valley "fine then I'll just stick to causing chaos"

hushed steeple
#

Would they be ok with that?!

heady gazelle
#

that would explain how they'd use their hair to hide possible scars, and their unusual capability to synchronise

queen locust
#

like you know when Goten and Trunks first merged-

hushed steeple
#

Mantas eat sky children’s frustration and we know this if you’re been in prairie

#

Gets whisked away

heady gazelle
#

o-o that's creepy to think of

sacred rapids
#

if they want to "merge" now
they need to do a dragonball fusion dance

hushed steeple
#

me getting swept away before I can collect wax

#

Cries

heady gazelle
#

so it's basically saying mantas have the magical equivalent of a mood nullifier-

queen locust
hushed steeple
#

No it makes us frustrated THEN eats frustration

sacred rapids
queen locust
#

you suuuuuurrreeeee?

hushed steeple
#

Yes

queen locust
#

fusion dance with buff super form is waiting for ya Jouske

sacred rapids
#

yeah I'm sure viridi I don't want to look

heady gazelle
#

ooooo better theory: Forest Elder turns it into a juice that solidifies into stuff to craft with :O

sacred rapids
#

I have my own things to look for

heady gazelle
#

oooooo so it's like when you compress the concept of frustration, it turns into something beautiful

#

Pretty.... :>

vestal swift
#

Alright y’all’s, I’m signing off for now, dm/ping me if anything interesting turns up

sacred rapids
#

yes

bitter shale
#

hmmmmmm guys i just have an interetsing idea

what if valley twins are actually forced to compete with each other?

heady gazelle
#

idk whats happening and i'm basically never in this discord but this is fun

hushed steeple
#

They seem pretty into it then

gilded spoke
#

||I wonder why forest elder violently yanks the flame iwonder why||

heady gazelle
#

isn't there some mythology that has 2 people fighting for eternity for the balance of the world or something?

sacred rapids
queen locust
hushed steeple
#

I thought it was meant to model the way teenagers see adults.

sacred rapids
bitter shale
#

like you see

they seems to be the youngest among other elders, and the fact that they are two person... basically unlike other elders they can be deemed incomplete and incompetent as an elder

so to assert their position as elder, they have to compete with each other. they have to not only show harmony but also contradiction.

queen locust
#

Kamil's right on that one- that's generally how the Elders are made

gilded spoke
#

||I think shes like abusive parents||

bitter shale
#

nO

#

NO

queen locust
#

How you see adults at a certain part of your life- those are the Elders

#

what no

#

that's not what Forest Elder's meant to be

bitter shale
#

i have zoom class rn brb

hushed steeple
#

Forest is a bit of a meenie and impatient with children. But I can’t bring myself to think of her like that.

sacred rapids
bitter shale
#

nvm the teacher is late

hushed steeple
#

Why everyone calls her “forest mom” is yet unknown.

gilded spoke
sacred rapids
queen locust
#

The Elders are all around the same age and heck we don't even know if they can give birth

sacred rapids
#

where did that come from and how does it make any sense

queen locust
#

They're genderless as well

bitter shale
sacred rapids
queen locust
#

So none of the Elders are really birthed from the other they're just kinda there

hushed steeple
#

A

#

Twins do fit into the role of rowdy children pretty well though.

queen locust
#

They're less of rowdy children but then again that's probably how a CEO views employees fresh outta college-

#

Flos's interpretation from earlier was close in that they're representative of competitive adults in their prime

#

That's why they're full of energy and competitive spirit

#

Vault's basically wise old grandparent that you've accepted you're gonna die with

bitter shale
#

grandma

sacred rapids
#

anyways I gotta sneep it's a school night

bitter shale
#

or another auntie

hushed steeple
#

And Forest n Vault are related

bitter shale
#

yesss

queen locust
#

Aight cya Jouske

bitter shale
#

twin aunties

queen locust
#

i'll leave a fusion dance on your doorstep when you wake up

hushed steeple
#

You leave lore chat with more and more drawing prompts each day, ViridiAve

queen locust
#

Forest and Vault are especially related tho- we're just not too sure in what way exactly

gilded spoke
#

||i imagine valley elder (fused) to be a child rebal||

queen locust
#

Mostly I think it's that diamond that Forest mama sent to NASA

lyric isle
#

I’m thinking of the power diamond production

the lift being powered by one

queen locust
#

Also glad to see your optimism Voluntary XD

lyric isle
#

Henlo, lore gang - it’s been a while!

bitter shale
queen locust
#

That seems like a natural progression after the Industrial Revolution that was Forest-

lyric isle
#

brain wants to talk about Enchantment stuff as I’m going through some weird moth nostalgia phase right now, but will later

gilded spoke
queen locust
#

Lmao- floor's yours whenever you're ready then Voluntary

lyric isle
#

it’s Nod
they’re the reason why I feel immense nostalgia

bitter shale
bitter shale
lyric isle
#

Enchantment has invaded my mind

#

also got slightly obsessed with High-Ten for a bit but that’s irrelevant

queen locust
#

imma candlerun for a just a bit before classes start back up-

#

cya'll in a while

lyric isle
#

what timezone is this

#

also can someone explain why everyone does this-

at the end of sentences

queen locust
#

I dunno, I guess it feels awkward without the hyphen

#

aight bai for real XD

icy spruce
#

ye

tawny tundra
#

As in real world symbolism? ... Which culture?

lyric isle
#

non-sequitur but I remembered that...incident

#

the uh

#

“all creatures are born naturally into the world”

tawdry dune
#

Are Journey and Sky in the same universe?

gilded spoke
#

anyways more proof that valley twins used to be one person is that they both have the same name

#

JOURNEY =/= SKY

icy spruce
#

yes

gilded spoke
tawdry dune
#

I haven’t actually played Journey (Sky looks more fun) but was looking at it and started wondering stickerGloomy

gilded spoke
icy spruce
#

lol

unborn sundial
unborn sundial
#

Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)

#

The devs used these as placeholders based on the Hebrew alphabet during development, and fans have latched onto them even though they're not official

timber briar
#

casually doesn’t know anything about lore but I like to lurk

exotic berry
hushed steeple
#

Does anyone know where to find an image of the King of Eden?

icy spruce
#

concept art

hushed steeple
#

Thank you!

icy spruce
#

no problemo :D

exotic berry
icy spruce
#

that too

willow shoal
exotic berry
#

So what’s the thinking on dark plant cores: does each core represent a single death, or is it irrelevant?

#

Side point: are ancestor souls the only ones represented by the cores, or can other creatures also produce dark plants through their death?

gilded spoke
#

Wait a minute why does the princes mask/crown look like the season on prophecy symbol

icy spruce
#

cause it does

lucid glen
gilded spoke
#

imagine in a update we can see the king/prince!

icy spruce
#

I used it cause I kinda sound like I'm aggressive so I add a hyphen at the end

#

Can't be possible, since Eden elder can't be saved (THAT, if you consider King/Prince/Eden Elder to be the same)

gilded spoke
#

like maybe before eye of eden we get to see the king and prince through medidtation

hushed steeple
#

I wonder what happened to eden to make it end up like that

gilded spoke
hushed steeple
#

I want a flashback/spirit memory with King

#

HECK I WANT SPIRIT MEMORIES WITH ELDERS. More elder cutscenes.

#

Some day in the future I hope they add an season for eden

#

Aye that would be cool

gilded spoke
gilded spoke
hushed steeple
#

Yeah I’m early beta they were blue no?

#

Season of kingdom is not bad

#

I would like them to bring Eden elder(mr king) backsqwarlockDed

#

He is there no? Just corrupted

#

No

gilded spoke
icy spruce
#

he cease to exists

hushed steeple
#

He not there

#

Oof

#

:((

icy spruce
#

King doesn't exists

hushed steeple
#

He noped out of existence

icy spruce
#

ye

hushed steeple
#

He yeeted his entire kingdom and son

#

Then poofed

pale geyser
#

he IMPLOSIONED

hushed steeple
#

He was the imposter all along

pale geyser
hushed steeple
#

Imagine if the prince comes back 👀

pale geyser
#

naw pretty sure he's dead

hushed steeple
#

How so?

hushed steeple
queen locust
#

Back- what'd I miss

pale geyser
hushed steeple
#

We are talking about the fallen kingdom

#

Ye

#

Ooooo

#

What

#

Just reminded me of Minecraft

#

W h a t

queen locust
#

i used to rule the world-

#

CHUNKS WOULD BLOW UP WHEN I GAVE THE WORD

#

aight imma stop there-

hushed steeple
#

WOAHH

#

not blow up chunks would load

icy spruce
#

what in Megan's name is happening?

gilded spoke
#

after looking at this chat for awhile i learned corpse plant valley elder was abused elders bad (except isle) diamond energy bad @pseudo heart

queen locust
#

minecraft nostalgia bombs

pale geyser
hushed steeple
#

So the king(from sky) had a cool head that’s all I know

pale geyser
icy spruce
#

Uh guys, lore

#

Sky lore

hushed steeple
#

Take back the night

icy spruce
#

before...yknow

gilded spoke
#

what lore

hushed steeple
#

The sky king had a star head

icy spruce
#

OKAY SKY

queen locust
icy spruce
#

SKY

pale geyser
hushed steeple
#

SKY

icy spruce
#

SKY LORE IS SO CONFUSING YES

#

KING'S HEAD IS STAR

hushed steeple
#

Sky

icy spruce
#

COOL, VERY DEFORMED

gilded spoke
#

star n eden might be king

hushed steeple
icy spruce
#

giant birb

hushed steeple
#

Ok guys but like
“Red stones”

icy spruce
#

g i a n t b i r b

queen locust
#

oh yeah those things-

#

Just came from Eden actually

icy spruce
#

yes

hushed steeple
queen locust
#

didn't take too many pics except of Isle Elder

gilded spoke
#

used to be farmed for diamond tech when blue

queen locust
#

And some very transparent spirits

icy spruce
#

ye

hushed steeple
#

:(( why did they make us sky kids clean up there mess

icy spruce
#

ye

queen locust
#

i mean firstly they're dead

hushed steeple
icy spruce
hushed steeple
#

There souls haunt us

icy spruce
gilded spoke
queen locust
#

And I only kind of disagree on the blue stones being mined thing

hushed steeple
#

Yes

#

They were fallen stars

#

Gasp

queen locust
#

I think the red stones were kind of like... An attempt on making the blue stones better

hushed steeple
#

Red stones hurt

queen locust
#

Because we know how normal diamonds function right- we light them up, and we do stuff

#

i mean they

#

Dangit

#

But still it's a manual if not straightforward input

hushed steeple
#

Don’t we have a diamond on our chest?

stark marten
#

Yeah, I think it's a common theory that they were messing with some technology that they shouldn't have been or forces they didn't entirely understand, and they went too far and accidentally blew everything up

queen locust
#

So red stones- they take light on their own

hushed steeple
#

Oop

queen locust
#

They don't need to be lit up per se, they just kinda need to be left alone and they suck up light

#

But we also see them being used for something- I don't know what but that astronomy tower looking observatory building suggests as much

#

There's tiny pieces of them all over the walls

hushed steeple
#

Ye

queen locust
#

They're significantly more automated than blue stones

hushed steeple
#

So they were using them to build somthin

queen locust
#

As for the diamonds on a skid's chest it kinda got me thinking a couple of months ago

hushed steeple
#

Ye?

queen locust
#

So- blue stones, need to be lit up manually and emit energy when lit

#

Red stones, automated sucking up of light

hushed steeple
#

Continue

pale geyser
queen locust
#

A skid can do both- we suck up AND emit light

hushed steeple
gilded spoke
hushed steeple
#

King star head h

queen locust
#

Basically where I'm going with that whole blue stone red stone thing is what if skids were made to be a perfect power diamond

icy spruce
#

oh, I remembered a theory 'bout that

queen locust
#

Fully automated power diamonds

hushed steeple
#

Hmm

#

So skids are artificial?

queen locust
#

It leans into that territory ye

hushed steeple
#

For what?

gilded spoke
#

then it destroyed the diamond balance and attracted the darkness

queen locust
#

The 'for what' is actually what breaks that theory a little-

#

Because that would have meant that the Ancestors and the Elders were planning to build something like us

#

Maybe not in the form of children but still

hushed steeple
#

How were the skids made then

gilded spoke
#

anyways i'll make a fanmade timeline brb

queen locust
#

And they ended up making something completely different

hushed steeple
#

Like to collect light and bring it to Eden, then repeat that?
That’s all we do by collecting winged light

#

If everything went poof

#

poof

pale geyser
#

imploshun

queen locust
#

The Ancestors at least I can be sure didn't plan us

hushed steeple
#

Skids can’t die they just get reborn

queen locust
#

The Elders have a slim chance

#

And as I like to keep saying skids were made with a specific purpose in mind

#

Without the disaster that was Eden, we shouldn't exist

hushed steeple
icy spruce
#

I personally just thik that there's those diamonds that are made mostly with light and dark. So like, I belive diamonds are made of both light and dark. Dark cause it can suck light and light since it keeps the dakrness from sucking too much light. I think the diamonds on our chest is made out of pure diamond instead of artificial like made out of pure light or smthng idk anymore my head hurts hhh

#

hhhh

queen locust
icy spruce
#

cool

queen locust
#

Going around putting spirits to rest and leading them up to Orbit

hushed steeple
#

A smart word

#

But when we get reborn there is an structure there no?

#

Like the platform to check on the consolation

hushed steeple
queen locust
#

I meant the skids lmao

hushed steeple
#

Yeah but who is smart enough to put that there for the skids

#

👀

#

Like the constellation thing in the temples

queen locust
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I dunno if the 'closet' actually means much but then again that's the only way we can meet the Elders in Orbit

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anywho I need to eat lunch brb keep loring ya'll

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Okie dokie

hushed steeple
icy spruce
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timezones are cool

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Ye

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Anyway back to talking about lore over tea with the rhythmic melodies of buzzsaws in the background .

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How do they make flying boats 🚣‍♀️

icy spruce
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diamonds

hushed steeple
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Yes

icy spruce
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most likely

hushed steeple
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Exactly

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Or skychild floaty power

pale geyser
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they have a boat obsession though, like why not a flying carriage

hushed steeple
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Lel

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Most diamonds are either corrupted or needs a sky kid to power it

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Needs light

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Ye

icy spruce
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ye

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But in the village of dreams there’s a diamond controlling the lift that is already lit

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Maybe because the village was sealed away from the chaos?

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Idk

icy spruce
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what

hushed steeple
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True

icy spruce
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currently confused on what are we talking about

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Diamonds

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A “safe” sealed place is like the fire trialpShadow

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How is that safe

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It’s swallowed by darkness

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I mean like safe from outside chaos

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Prophecy was created
kingdom got created
elders get chosen
Diamond energy discovered
farm crystals
valley elder gets abused after finding out diamond energy bad
crystals turn red
Isle dies first
skater girl is born
first skid discovered
prairie dies
forest dies (very badly)
Valley dies (except village of dreams)
wasteland dies (really badly)
vault dies
king ditches son and dies
Village of dreams die (from avalanche)

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I don't think Valley Elders got abused?

hushed steeple
icy spruce
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When were they I (hyphen)

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hhhhhhhhhhhh

gilded spoke
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as i said its fanmade

icy spruce
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Also, elders are not dead

hushed steeple
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Darkness is different?

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How do

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So*

icy spruce
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So pretty much Isle is alive during that time

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But current Isle elder is in limbo

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It's in the canon doc

hushed steeple
gilded spoke
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Wym

hushed steeple
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Who is the Isle elder

icy spruce
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Isle elder

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The one with the boats and birds

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The one that got their staff to like

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birds

hushed steeple
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Who

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Yes staff do bird

icy spruce
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yes

hushed steeple
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The bald boi

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With beard?

icy spruce
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ye

hushed steeple
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Oh

icy spruce
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long beard boomer

hushed steeple
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He is alive??

icy spruce
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No, he's in limbo

hushed steeple
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Limbo define

icy spruce
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aka, they're alive but the same time dead

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Like, kinda like a coma

hushed steeple
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Oh damn

icy spruce
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Except they're trapped in some room

hushed steeple
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All the elders?

icy spruce
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ye

hushed steeple
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Hm

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Who knows how long they been in limbo

icy spruce
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Most likely after Sky fell

hushed steeple
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Phew that’s a long while

icy spruce
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indeee

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d

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hhh