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Ah, yes my favourite type of water: r o c k s a n d c r y s t a l s
Petition for Phos to be happy for at least ONE chapter
I think the eden diamond, as well as the beam were artificial. see in my view, the eden diamond was literally the tipping point before their society collapsed, but also the tipping point of the king/elder's ambition and hubris. artificial stars were't enough, so they made the eden diamond to utilize the light from orbit itself. but such power was too much for the diamond to handle
phos needs a happy ending
ikr :(
10,000 years :'^(
chapter 95 spoilers!!! ||we got antarc back, but at what cost...||
Ah. I think the diamond at the last CoP mural in the mountain is the same one in eden (before it exploded the top and castle off). But I guess it COULD have been put there at that time.
Ikr
Anyways, back to sky
H m m
eee
Also
Ancient people tend to mimic animals
The flying boats are kinda like dem krill
huh
one more joke, one more joke
phos' arms vibing in the sea b like
ok that's it
P f t
bAck to lore
that is... the first time I've seen krill get compared with boats
A h
ye
krill are b o a t s
krill wrangling time bois
Oh, Ali, did you get the boat in Candlemaker’s memory?
Krill are boats. Crabs are pots.
now we know how did Sky fell....it wasn't the diamonds..it was the b o a t s
yeehaw pardner 🤠
my skykid rowing down from orbit b like
Real krill: smol, transparent, dark eyes
Sky krill: oversized, opaque, glowy eyes that better not turn red
Slumbering Shipwright what do you have to say for yourself-
Speaking of which, I’m trying to understand where the dark plant comes in, in his memory.
krill are actually dragons... zero relation to krill...
Oh heya Pyre- haven't seen ya in a while
it wasn't a krill attack... it fell from the 
hiiii
hello hello
Check the internet
ye, they kinda got banned for 3 weeks. lol
they're krill shaped
I hope to g o d he doesn't have a dead freaking body in there

Jkjk
ye, but the quest says they're 'dark dragons' hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
sky`s krill are officially called dark dragons
cute
krill is a fan made term
Yeahh
soooo
like we go by canon here
most of the lore is fanon
If not a dead body I guess that despair would also technically be a cause of the growth of dark plants
but they don’t look like dragons. They look like arthropods
sky`s krill arent crustaceans
the what-
?
I wonder about colour coding
they're crusty enough to be crustaceans
It seems like
Blue: safe
Red: oh boy
animal classification i made a long time ago
Until that season of enchantment red lught
C o o l
yeah I was scared to touch that the first time 
u see... creatures in sky are made of light and they are nothing like earth`s creatures at all
Pyre. So literal.
ig they are energy based?
They got skeletons.
Yep
but they are
Well depends on what exactly constitutes as 'organic' in this universe
Organic enough to have bones. But more seriously we know they’re light-dark based.
oc
But Pyre seems to be like our factual boi to keep us grounded=important theorist
but see, even in sky mantas aren't really earth mantas. and yet we call them that because they resemble them. so the same logic can be applied to krill
They're not CONSTRUCTS- they're stil; described to have been born
also, krill are NOT boats
all creatures are born NATURALLY into the world
krill are not made either
Ok
krill are boats, I will row one to prove it
...
If only for the sake of sillyness
I was just saying they looked similar like the anchient beings copied the design for survival stuff like irl
Krills are now 100% boats
dont worryyyy, we're just having fun 
ok
<<“Where do the creatures come from in Sky?” “The creatures in Sky are connected to the light and born from the light (...) that’s their origin and where they come from (...) so you’ll actually see creatures emerging from the clouds and manifesting as the light sort of comes together. You can also think of it as almost like atoms or molecules, like as the light comes together new life is being born”>>
- Canon Sky Lore
take note of the word born
great now we r quoting the livestream
Right.
i'm- what's wrong with that-
its not wrong
They are all aquatic
yes
yes
but birds
Winner winner chicken dinner
Well if you're annoyed by it imma carry on anyway because quoting canon lore is part of the process-
No mammal rep aside from masks. Hum hum.
birb
thats just water thats collected a lot of dust... we think
six-legged spider bothers me
oooooooo
How all air creatures are pure
birds can be aquatic
sure
But the aquatic based ones, are either bad or good
b i r b
birds in sky are more like doves and swallows
if those birds so much as touch water,
down they go
splat
A h
Plus butterflies- which I WILL defend by saying they're natural
cuz wet feathers
And there is only the one flightless creature aside from spirits in crabs
I’m sorry. What exactly are we talking about?
ye butterflies too
idk
I mean, butterflies are natural?
That's it. I'm checking symbolic meanings
oc
tbh I see them as seagulls, they can dive, albeit very limited but it's there
I may find something
but still
The paper ones read as paper doves. Thats just personal viewing.
it's more a mix between aquatic and aviary aesthetics
Sky creatures
I would like the return of the tutorial bird. He was pretty.
because it is called s k y
Rip earth animals
they look more like the wandering low-flying birds I see on the road tryna peck my ankles off
WAIT A SEC
Swimming is kinda like flying-
But like
You know-
With wAtER
well they could have been around at some point, based on the masks from some seasons
seagulls dont dive i believe u were refering to gannets and boobies
all extinct according to some interpretations- through pure natural selection
Honestly the reason why most of the creatures are aquatic in design is prolly so they they can fly easily enough in a fantasy world while still being otherworldly.
limited
Wait
like I said, limited but it's there
What do gulls eat?
fish?
ye
They're birds of prey iirc because apparently they also feast on dead carcasses of humans
I-
Fish?-
THATS RIGHT THERES FISH
ye
Probably Isle or Sanc?
There's an oversized fish right-
birds of prey are more related to krill...
koi in ponds too
There are small orange fish in the pond in front of the Ark.
what
those arent koi
oh koil (haha, cool? Koil? ahhaha)
They look more like goldfish than koi but I'm out of my field here
they're called koi on the wiki
more like large female swordtails
A h
they they look like goldfish snacks
IDENTIFYING THE POLY FISH WHEEEZE
i edited that wiki
Its good its good
it shouldnt say that anymore
I noticed Pyre seems to be the only sensor among us (mbti)
sensor?
good to know-
Mbti
I
Focuses on "what is" than "what could be"
wait till u meet bricky
who the heck puts swordtails in a koi pond
P f t
We have. Bricky is pretty chill.
a n c e s t o r s (prolly)
the devs? maybe
oh oh ik
megan
thats it
I'll be sending symbolism of irl creatures found in sky
Jellyfish is a symbol of love, so if it appears in your life, it means that you should trust your heart and follow your own emotiones. It is also a symbol of acceptance and balance. ... The jellyfish is a symbol of faith, intuition and sensitivity as well.
prairie elder looking at the swordtails when it was supposed to be koi in their pond: 👁️ 👄 👁️
lmao
Manta Ray symbolizes grace, flow, and calibration. Manta Rays are sensitive to the flow of energy and can help you be more efficient at tapping into this flow and dancing with it.
oceanic or reef?
krill sp i k e y
makes me wonder what the heck these embodiments of love are doing hanging out in caves and dreary forests
*COPY PASTE GO BRRRR
The manta ray I can see better tho-
what is more romantic than a soggy forest??
A dry forest mid-autumn
a death trap cave
I don’t think the devs were concerned with symbolism over the light creatures? But again, just my personal opinion.
Irl Krill are at the bottom-ish of the food chain
But in sky though-
R e v e n g e
Jkjk
Apex photovore.
Except the mantas apparently because that description looks pretty on the nose
my my how the turn tables
remember... krill in sky are not related to irl krill
we could easily say the same thing about mantas and whales
I'll check dragon symbolizm then-
also
krill a n g y
mantas in sky are more like eagle rays than mantas
like that one clearly whale-looking elder manta in Sanc
Weren’t they called krill in development and modeled on them?
idk
and the fish-looking whales
hmmm
Lemme check crabs
coincidence? i think not
I mean they were very clearly based on krill/shrimp structure wise
apparently crabs are not actually crabs
O h
They're pots :)
cool
I don't think it literally means cancer
also not tru
Cancer is something else entirely zodiac-wise
I was Jk
krill are boats and crabs are pots
BAHAHHAHAH
The only naming thing that annoys myself is that the WHALES ARE CALLED ELDERS AND THE CANTHS ARE CALLED WHALES AHHHHHH
I'm just trying to find as mny connections as I can ok-
Feel free to state your opinions though
ahhh yesss
Ok. Feel free to ping me if anything interesting happens. Gonna try to scrounge up half a candle.
S ur e
lol
I mean- if we could get frustrated about the disconnect between what a krill is and isn't why aren't we directing that same behavior towards light creatures
Like the aforementioned 'canth whale
so yeah it was mentioned before that crabs are... something else, the hint was they are mimicking something
Crab symbolizes rebirth because they thought humans reincarnated as Crabs and other sea creatures.
Hm
SJAJKSKAKJS
and one of the theories was that they are newborn krill but that was debunked
Jkjk
WHY THE CRABS OF ALL THINGS SYMBOLIZING THE CORE GOAL OF THE GAME LMAO
BAHHAHAHAHAH
I still think, they move robotically, not like, metal, electric robots. Maybe some type of enchanted automaton thats edible
no no nope
all creatures are born naturally into the world
i'm just picturing pleaful parent crunching on gears
Okey
when you think about it, all biological organisms are meat automations
ye...
Jkjk
ok.. anyone else got theories?
?
I do think, on the topic of dark creatures, they are separate from the light rebirth cycle
Natural darkness
H m m
i had a theory on that so I SORT of disagree
WAIT A MINT
so if a light creature is a pheonix, a dark creature is a god?
Darkness not being a separate thing in the natural scheme but rather as a byproduct of light
IT'S A POT ROBIT
Oh my Megan
in terms of life cycle
Symbol of Powerful Transformation: As stated earlier, a butterfly is the symbol of great change. By imitating the growth of this insect, the significance of the butterfly puts emphasis on our capability to travel from one state, perception, and way of life to another.
Butterflies=travel
oh ye ye we have a similar thing
HAHAHA IT EVEN LOOKS LIKE IT
idk why but all I saw this thing being was that one bowler hat from Meet the Robinsons
its been such a long time u guys prob dont know the symbiosis theory... right?
Yeah-
I'm cackling
many of our recent lore theories and documentaries have been based on the symbiosis theory...
Birds were considered the reincarnations of the most pious and highly respected individuals. A bird symbol stands for transcendence and freedom in Celtic. Apart from the souls and reincarnations, Celtics also believe birds represent liberation for humans because of their ability to take flight high up in the heavens.
remembered it
Did I miss any other animal?
ye ye ik u know chesca
Ya'll covered fish and butters right
i was talking abt the new uns
mk
soo do u?
brb gotta get coffee
mkay, enjoy your coffee
?
lore chat died :(
H m
Want a quick puzzle?
I mean keep going my coffee just called
sure I guess
the symbiosis theory goes like this (text block comming up (possibly))
Sure
i uh- none of my critical thinking exercises could have helped me with any of that
then again technically I don't need to re-do any of my critical thinking exercises-
O o f
cursed schedule made it so we don't have entrance exams
Puzzle?
i don’t think this puzzle is lore related
Yep
it seems to be derailing the convo
Yep
let’s get back to lore, shall we ?
So anyways
What's the topic
Of course
Uhhh Pyre was typing out the Symbiote theory I think
Yep
ye
Alright I'll wait for pyres theory
While that's happening should I share that one theory I mentioned about darkness being part of the process
The puzzle was so while we're waiting
Aight
Sure
Ah, I heard of you
Tl;dr think of the creatures as a cell- some cells go through mitosis and some don't. Light creatures are the ones that go through mitosis, and dark creatures are the ones that don't. This might be because of several external factors but the main one is that different cells are made to do different things
Guess I waited enough-
Alternatively you could interpret the dark creatures as a mutation instead of just being a different kind of cell- so in a way dark creatures are a form of cancer
ye, i’m bricky, ive made a couple contributions to lore chat and i’m one of the editors of the theory doc, pleased ta meetchya
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when creatures are being formed by megan out of light, they are neutral.
during this state, if they are exposed to dust, they are created as dark creatures
if they are exposed to stasis sparks, they become light creatures
if they are exposed to nothing, they become neutral
dust is parasitic. it eats up the light inside a creature and makes it constantly hungry, forcing it to be carnivorous, and hunt for external sources of light.
stasis sparks create light a lot and sustain both the light creature and the stasis sparks, and in return, the light creature takes stasis sparks to other places
neutral creatures consume small amounts of light, or none at all and usually consume organic matter.
Wait
symbiosis theory
Who/what's megan?
megabird
virdi`s theory is in there somewhere
the megabird-
Mega birb
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here, she’s talked about here
Epik i'm slow
THEY are talked abt here
she
N i c e
megan is referred to by the concepts as a she
oh.
Pyre's is the foundation and my side is technically the process
Bruh
i'm still not over concept Megan looking like Loreal's poster girl
like those are the biggest, shiniest, most luxurious locks of everything she has going on there-
Flex
i think after the sky lore documentary series, the symbiosis theory is my biggest contribution to lore...
Heck congratulations-
congrats
wait so where do we go from that
Hh
Well, now I get the creatures
im curious about the symbiosis theory, i have a question about it
what do you define as "stasis sparks" ? its kind of unclear what thats supposed to mean
But what about the skykids/moths
Aite
That's just two of many theories so take both with a grain of salt Emi
So what I think them as clay sentient beings
Ok-
Little golem children-
those are neutral
What about the candles
The candles in them?
yknow how if u ride mantas or jellies, little shiny dots cme out ant grab u and give u light?
And the hearts you can physically give (unless it's only symbolic)
those r stasis sparks
O o h
candles arent alive
The candles as the currency are described as offerings iirc
Candles in general
I think hearts as currency not ours ofc
And how they became a huge element in sky
but not all creatures give those off - some forms of manta and bird dont have them yet they still charge us, making them light creatures
those are just sparks
Y e l l o w
You can talk about it again
hey pyre me and AIDANsystem have some crab biology lore
Tho
Spill the tea
bro I don't remember if I had breakfast this morning or not
sure sure
then eat again ig?
better to eat twice than not eat
Yeah
most of the research was done with sanctuary crabs but other crabs where used
i do think the symbiosis theory has merit, especially wrt to darkness, but i think wrt light creatures it doesnt work as well considering not all light creatures have some sort of "spark"
Wrt?-
with regards to
were crabs harmed in the making of this theory-
sparks all exist inside light creatures... its the STASIS sparks that are optional
dang-
The chat was full of intuitives earlier. When the covo died, THE SENSORS AROSE
okay then, for future reference dont call them stasis sparks then as it muddles your definition, make it a clear "sparks" and "dust"
oh no
so the 2 friendly crabs have 2 things other crabs don't (not mutually exclusive)
it's: fresh water and direct access to sunlight
the water seems to help with keeping the crabs color saturated and sunlight keeps them domicile
there r 2 types of sparks, stasis sparks and normal sparks... dust is totally different
wait was that meant to be censors or sensors-
Sensors: what is
Intuition: what could be
first, their colors are that same
Mbti
Oh THAT kinda sensor-
second, its genetic...
im not really a fan of the MBTI imo, it feels kind of pointless to try and categorize people into clean groups when humans dont work that way
but go off i guess
Yeah
It's ironic when you take into consideration the human instinct to put everything into separate boxes
the sanc crabs being not hostile
Mbti was debunked but I still just wanna use it anyways
baaacccc to lore
Ye
so
this
lets talk abt it
Sure
does the difference between stasis and non-stasis sparks mean anything ? if they're scientifically different things, they would mean something for the creature they are symbiotic with, no ?
we see some crabs with access to water having darker tones and those that done having pale tones
no other crabs have access to direct sunlight besides those 2 and all others are angry bois
stasis sparks are the ones u can see, putting u in a stasis field as it recharges u
normal sparks dont put u in a stasis field and they just recharge u when u get close...
put the pale tone crabs in the sun and they are dark and vice versa... its just lighting
i used to think that too, but.. yea...
what do you think decides if a creature has stasis sparks or not ? is it a size thing, or something else ?
the forest temple crabs... remember, sunlight comes thru and the water is pure
hmmmm
I refuse to think the sun give the crabs a tan pyre
its just compatibility ig...
Pyre did you observe them em creatures emitting the spark or not
based on the species
not a tan... its the lighting... like our capes and how they change color in different lights
sparks are not big enough to be seen... but stasis sparks are big enough and all the references are self tested, not hear say
i looked away for like a second and my eyes just gravitated to the phrase 'the sun gives the crabs a tan'
ok maybe I'm wrong about the water bit
but the direct sunlight keeping them domicile
nah
is it a reverse tan if they're like... paler than every other crab
the forest temple has direct sunlight
or is that bleaching
no?
if u put them in the light
they are all white
if u put them back in their caves, they are all dark
plz go to the sanc caves and try it out
the friendly sanc crabs are in light and are dark?
yes
What about the angri one
What did i miss? jazz hit
seriously u should actually try it yourself..
Crabs and Sky biology mostly
those are all the same shade of pinkish red
I think it'd be better for all of us if we had pics as well Pyre
With black
well I got some dental surgery tomorrow and I should sleep
see y'all eventually
Ah
i cant go into sky rn
.... Uhhh
Not all of us have the time to be experimenting with crabs
Does anyone know the inspiration for the new season's dancing spirit's hat and cape?
could u plz take them?
I do have some questions about the documentaries
Well
its based on korean clothing iirc
a dopo
Not really 8 just think we don't mention how they are today
its a cape/coat
I have paragraphs to write so nah-
We mostly delve into the actual history of it
im... waiting...
let me help u out...
Uhhh
Actually 8 forgot most of what was said in the documentaries
Sorry I'll research
Re-watch*
Is there a reason why we can carry crabs?
FAQs:
1.where are they and how do u watch them
2.how do i participate in the making
3.abt content
cuz skids are curious
Yes but like what specifically
and no, skids dont eat crabs
It's for fun
I know this isn't scientific, but hair represents power and strength.
Our hair dissapears when we lose enough light and stuff right?
Devs made it like that for entertainment purposes
crab-eating is forancestors only
Okay here's one
Thanks! I was wondering what to call it bc I know it's not a kimono.
Hair presents powr and strength huh I never thought of that because all of em are wigs
I kinda wish they can make us throw those crabs like how we throw shells in mario
aaaah meta talk...
this could easily go into game mech explanations and we dont want that
its commonly believed that hair and such cosmetics are made of light, so when we have no light they disappear
H m m
Why is it depicting Prairie as using animals for profit when, well...
ye
Prairie doesn't have a real need for it?
Because I think it as like that 
it mass farms butterflies
watch the butterfly documentary
great
they do, they harvest light from the animals to be used in making power diamonds
Some parts just don't sound right to me but i have no proof otherwise
And im probably just trying to see it all through rose colored glasses
i cant link the documentary here cuz that would be self promotion
so i need someone not on the production team to link it... lol
you're allowed to link lore-related posts here
whether it be tumblr or yt or what not
Cuz, to me the only real instance of animal cruelty is in forest
Just don't self promote your own stuff lol
Is there a theory why the eye parts of most masks glow?
Because light
Yes but-
huh u watched the bird documentary too? lol
But
Nevermind :'D
I.. AM... SKYRON MAN KID
I'm probably wrong but to me the bird's were summoned recently by isle elder
Though.... Honestly the laughing light catcher disproves my thoughts
there are other instances too
Cuz... Well
We see them summoned when the bell rings in Prairie and in isle elder cutscene....
staffs were used for a variety of different purposes, including light catching, bird guiding, field artillery, celebrations, and more
think of it as a cooler longer harry potter wand
Prairie summons birds to help with light Ball production, and.... Call me wack but
To be fair he was also surrounded by birds even before he does his staff magic
But?
Do you think isle elder sends birds to help navigation
H m m
the staff is not for summoning... its for guiding or rather exploiting
That's probably a no duh
What did you observe to think that?
Lmao Radian you're not as far off as you think-
I summon fireworks
Mainly that the isle elder has the bird's fly toward eden-
And through the rest of the game the bird's fly toward your goal
Even willingly going through the storm in Wasteland
Never said he'd summoned them but I do believe he'd manipulated them to some effect
Though they are absent in some random areas
HAD not has
Oh-
whoop- sent it without the reply
"Children of the light" is it 100% confirmed it meant us moths or-
Is it really a thing of the past??
the isle elder is in stasis and cant do stuff in real sky time
Nah moths are just a term we'd come up with as a community
Hm.
that's... debatable
ever since the great ancestor rebellion, yes prob
Yeah like
is it?
Not in... A time stasis
we call it limbo here
They should be aware of what's going on, no??
Though they're in statis, it's not like they can't do things beyond it and YES I will pull up a canon quote
ye
So surely they're just waiting for someone to save them
maybe they eat candles like us
after all, elders are a subspecies of skids
Hm
« The locations of [their] cutscenes are somewhere beyond space and time » (hage observation: yet still affect the world, more below)>>
That's from the Launch Livestream
Yeah, that's my point kinda
they say canon is vague, but it does explain a lotta important questions super clearly
Cuz after helping them the gate to the next realm opens
it says hage observation
thats not canon i think...
thus my reasoning as to why it's debatable- it's not IMPOSSIBLE for Isle Elder to have sent birds to guide us
And to me that suggests they're able to change things in the real world
Might not be but there's room for it and really it doesn't disprove my reasoning
i must admit, this is quite intriguing..
it also helps me fight the sky time stasis theory... so ig i subscribe to this theory
we... all... knew i think...
oh well imma brb with a link to the documentaries lol
Unless If, once again, the bird's are there cus isle elder sent them to help us find our goal
ok i gtg
OK cya
byyyyyyyeee
Bye Pyre
Oh!
What species do they look like
I need to check smthn
I think one's... Sparrows?
Aight aight
There is the 3d species and the 2d species
Do the birds have a split tail? To narrow things down a bit
Hm
Hm
I kept seeing it in fanart, people trying to connect it to lore. Turns out concept art for elders used to
- Be bosses of the realms
- Be animals
C o o l
Also bad theory:
there are no other animals in sky cuz ancestors killed all the exotic ones for capes, masks, etc.
Forest was a lynx cat
Oh yeah- wasn't Isle Elder an eagle in concepts
Where's the concept art of the cat
Or they just... Happened to make dope animals that don't exist in their world
Vulture
and Wasteland Elder was a freaking spider
isle elder was a vulture iirc
H u h
.
If wasteland was a spider I'd be out
I gotta dig again and I don’t want to. There is pure gold in “seven days of sky” on the twitter for sky.
isle - vulture
prairie - whale i believe ?
forest - lynx
valley - unclear
wasteland - spider with human arms
vault - crow
eden - unclear
Including pictures of the actual modern day city, modeled, and the rabbit mask forest elder.
It could've been better if it was the valley twins-
Two people
One of them was a horrible leg spider
8 limbs
Jkjk
Imagine fighting that
also I disagree- even if they were stylized there's no way they wouldn't have had an encounter with any of those creatures
One was a bull
A lion too
Spider with human arms I-
Like that spider looks too much like a spider for them to have pulled that out of nowhere-
The... "CREATIVE LIBERTY MAKES LIONS" Theory
Baby wall
Baaaaabyshark
n O-
imo there did used to be neutral creatures like we have on earth, but they were wiped out by the eden explosion and it left behind only dark and light creatures
Had to

Oooh that's true...
Kinda reminds me on how humans are generally morally gray
Oh one was a monkey too
Some ppl talk about turtle before
But certain cliches fantasy got only black and white characters
Monkey, Bull, lion, horrible leg spider, vulture, whale
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Should I just check symbolism again-
And they said at one point they planned for elders to be missing various body parts
stares at twins
Ok now what-
forest elder used to have a big hole in their chest
One of the elder had a stars has a head before
do you mean the king ?
NO
No
It's maybe the Isle elder before
do you have a picture ?
Forest seems to be the only one with a strange in between in terms of character
The “scary” version
Can't post it, had not enough of wifi
Your pfp tho-
can you link it or something along those lines ?
My pfp didn't change for a long time
A h
Any idea what did they say
Who?
So I can search it on the magnifying glass button
I remind of the picture and they said it was one of the elder before
Big brain moments
Okay so
Some ppl here say that what you see in vault is a hallucination, the building itself is there but the contents are,, ye.. a hallucination especially from floors 4 to summit which breaks off into empty space, also the fact that the devs wanted the vault to be a "dream-like" thing,, I guess that's where they got it
But,, I think they're projections of the memory lanterns
I like that!
So how we could meet the vault elder if all was an hallucinations?
Ye,, that's why I wasn't sold
O h
I think those projections also change as the realms change
Simce every floor is tied to a particular realm
Mhm
In the first place, the Elders are in a place beyond space and time- so reaching them through different means isn't that much of a dealbreaker to me
This way, the scholars can look over the kingdom's state without having to go outside and such
H m m
Why would it be unreasonable to reach Vault Elder's shrine in a dream-like state as opposed to a physical one?
Ah is also saw that on google
dear christ Wasteland Elder
What the heck are those in the lower right
Just a stupid suggestion: remember how there are gods who communicate through angels and prophets and such
Btw, vault could be a place where some dead manta rest in peace and help and spirit had power so they can go to elevator too and we saw all the throne from vault are in eden when you fly up to orbit
WAIT
Speaking of dead manta
What was that thing in front of the citadel entrance
Anyway, I like vault being dreamy projections, since it ties in with the projection diamonds and meeting Vault.
It's an LA resource
Also, the elevator itself is the projector
Which is powered by memories
i still have that question that wasn't answered yet-
Hm?
What is it
See- in the first place, the Elders are in a place beyond space and time, right
O h
yes that one thanks-
Wish mean we see them in orbit
We need pyre and bricky-
Thoughts are being thonk
not really I just need answers-
Wait did you just-

Please change that first word- a bot may get the wrong idea or smthn
Someone said ‘limbo’ a while back. I like that word for it. They might be able to go back to orbit, but they are not there yet.
Fineeee
Thank you-
H—
I can't tell if that was a dodge or not but uh- okay change topic I guess
No no wait
Sorry-
Go back to vaultshwjsnms
Long story short, I'm not sure my answer is satisfactory
It's not that I'm opposed I'm just kind of curious if being in a dream-like state or not would have any actual bearing on how a skid could reach an Elder
It's ok
Maybe not. I see the elders in a kinda spirity space. They do teleport the kid though.
It really depends if elders are immortal deities
Okay okay vault
Heck once I'd subscribed to a theory where Vault was using the same kind of physics as the Trials in Prophecy
You did it @queen locust, I knew i could believe in you!
What-
skybot no I haven't completed that last trial yet
I'm confused-
Don't mind skybot too much they just pop in randomly
Ok-
So Vault is a storage of knowledge for future generations using the memory lantern things yeah?
It's probably more accurate to say that they're ageless
Vault was made for the scholars , not for the skids and knowing that the trials killed ppl—
Guess why we call it vault of knowledge
All that lamp show maybe something
Like magic book
I mean YES- and that's why the Vault was so much more accessible than the Trials and is easier to get out of
I shouldn't involve religion-
I mean, theres a lot of ties to biblical stuff here so.
Playing off the same meditation things and the 'not quite real but it still happened' characteristics of the Trials
E d e n
Jkjk
Also
No
In isle of dawn
Megan's existence is heavily associated with the Abrahamic God
Sky is a fusion of different cultur
We gotta light some statue on the right
One True God and whatnot
So it'll go to the one on the left
Then a boat will rise
Granted, the memory cubes start floating and disappearing higher on up
Is there a reason?
i'm... having trouble comprehending the question0
Sorry-
when you say light some statue are you referring to the spirit
Speaking of boats—
I'll get a pic
I mean a doorway
Btw, I feel Sky have more Asian culture in because of mask, cloth or cap
Like the shy bunny spirit in season of dreams
The....door to Isle’s alter?
OH- the door
Yep
All of the presented cultures in Sky are p much asian tho..
Yea
Skys a mixed bag of inspiration. Prolly worth lookin into lots of stuff
Like Hebrew- can't forget the Hebrew stuff
Eden and fallen stars included
Just waiting for a filo one out there. I hope for a walis tambo ult gift
Scares krills away
The fire prophet mask is inspired from the dragon dog protector sculpture you see in China cultur
bruh- a r n i s-
we need a r n i s-
Wait, can everyone state just the continent they're in? But delete immediately later
Okay but have u seen ur mom raise a walis tambo @ u
That's way more terrifying
WAIT NO
TSINELAS 
H m
Omg yes-
Anyways back to lore i guess-
Can't sing the national anthem informally so-
Anyways
or over text
A h
My bad
In terms of the humanoids
Elders: Immortal?
Spirits: Mortal?
Skids: Can be reborn
Winged light: trapped souls?
Is there a theory on if they used to be one type of being, that split into multiple races
(Kinda like in houseki no kuni, where humans split into
Flesh=Ocean humanoids
Bone=Human Rocks and minerals
Spirit=Lunarians)
Speaking of anthems I gotta type up a paragraph real quick so have fun loring fellas
Sure-
Wl are falling Stars we lost and we need to find them all to get them back in orbit
Ppl being a rock because of Darkness
Falling stars are elders and spirits, not WL
Darkness is cold
No
Oh okey.....maybe.....a misremembering
Are you sure you see the end of eden when all wl boy say ty to you ?
"Cold and dark" reminds me of pitch blacks' dialogue in rise of the guardians-
Lol
<<The constellations in the intro are composed of the spirits/ancestors NOT winged light. Winged light=/=stars>>
From the Traveller's Guide
This is what I said
Kamil was correct- Elders are the fallen stars
Earlier, we talked about the creatures and cover alot
Wl are stars
The rest are constellation
Let's focus on the humanoids now IG-
bro did you miss the part where it literally said Winged Light =/= stars
And constellations are composed of spirits/Ancestors implies that they're the stars
Btw
I feel like ppl was always spirit because of their memories
We never see how they was actually before they die
Constellations are composed of stars
Sometimes, Idk which aspects of the lore should be taken literally or figuratively-
Nnooo
You didn't really understand story
whelp- here's your list
Yeah, and uh
But anywho. Thats not to say the WL are not a result of something from the stars.
We are stars too
Hm
If the friend constellations mean anything
Lemme check the life cycle of irl stars
.... wait are constellations the main best friends of the elders
Maybe there's a connection
🧠 
imma leave you all to clear up the stars thing I REALLY need to go and write that paragraph
Winged Lights are not stars-
that is literally canon-
AAAAA
It's ok
Hm
Unless if the ancestors all exploded or consumed each other
Idk but hey
Huh ?
The big stars die faster
Idk but all wl are in the same pose
Only in eden they don't
All are looking in the sky
Wl in eden just are in different pose like lazy bean
WL are “a character you are connected to and have a relationship with”
So in my mind, that settles they are the same as the eden one
It's either there's a reason why they're looking up,
Or the creators were on a budget, and decided to put effort in the eden ones
You just eat them for to be stronger not sure
Not eat-
Just joking
It all just circles to the candle waste theory 
But let's assume the former
Lol
Except arguably the first cutscene?
Ah ye
