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yes ive seen that as well
Its part of the yeti memory
In the trailer there are also some valley spirits but i dont think those two specifically are there
Also it defintly was the cheer spirit because she was gold for me
I dont have a picture either 
not very close, but here they are, it’s part of the yeti spirit memory
Watching them from afar
So are this the only boats with a diamond battery at the bottom?
PS, now that I think about this boats looks like a boat in Eden first floor.. maybe there was a skilift there too once
OK I SWEAR I SAW, in the village of dreams, the gratitude red rabbit mask and cheering spectator spirit walking together. Like a memory, I was about to take a picture but they vanished. Are other spirits appearing during dream spirits memories? Others might be living in the village?
@hushed steeple it would be nice if there will be more!
Im happy to see seasonal spirits and normy spirits just kinda living life, maybe on their way to watch a race or something. Poor big yeti man, he has to work for gossip.
Wat the hell is that
Krebules.
Though seriously it’s a statue that players have (somehow?) decided is a crab statue. The spirit core can be lit, but I don’t have a table to stand on and at that level you’re swimming, so it’s a bit difficult to use a candle.
Some call it a pig, others a messed up krill-

!ts
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does anyone here have a save in the yeti gorge?
It does recharge but cannot light it
Ah. The hit box will give me a lighting prompt from certain angles but...
Fff
Mee
But I'll play later
Does anyone knows what is the name of TS?
sorry i ended up losing
Someone(above) talked about the forest elder grabbing the light. I think we talked about it earlier... The old version of the game seems to have had a rather calm elder receiving the light. It was changed to current version probably to emphasis something...? The elders attitude? Or frustration that no one came so long? 🤔
I saved in hermit valley .___.
Idk but i like the old one
It's more interactive and i realized the diamond is used to open the door
How could I save the save mad later?
Shrine?
canyon
what?
This is what you meant right?
And that I wanted access to the yeti cave
it'll be available in like 2 or 3 weeks
yeah they are part of the yeti's spirit memory
They do be walking tho
walkin and talkin
Also, is Mr. Yeti Man supposed to be a creature, or a person in a yeti suit? I'm still confused 
No one will ever be convincing enough to say he is not a 100% real yeti.
Whwhwhwh
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well he's the outcast of the village so probably just became a yeti because he couldn't get all the things he needed to keep himself not looking like a yeti
prolly
He could just shave I feel like that's a reasonable enough solution-
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I dunno- breaking off an icicle sounds easy enough
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All you really need is a sharp enough edge
true
I don't think that's how that works
heck not even an icicle- just a random rock somewhere
sounds painful
and besides he's on a mountain so he would need to have fur to keep warm
Do you think some of the spirits from the Valley constellation and/or some Seasonal Spirits before Dreams once lived in the village?
bro every other citizen in Valley doesn't look like they're dressed for that climate- rather what I want to know is why HE seems affected by the elements when the other villagers are just fine
yes we see some in the yeti memory
and I'm in beta so I know for sure
heavy beta breathing
I mean- until it goes live I'd appreciate it if we stuck to what we know from live
sorry
hhhh
Both are screenshots from the new season trailer btw and we see some Seasonal Spirits from Valley
oh they're in the trailer? neat
Like Sparkler mom and Juggler boi
and someone who looks suspiciously like Blushing Prospector but apparently if these spirits are Valley only it can't be her
Plus earlier from the Yeti Spirit we see the Afro spirit and the one from Gratitude
nope that's the drum she has 
(hecc I'm not going insane then-)
huh
this
shakey
znznsnnz I'm sorry it's so blurred-
the frames aren't making it easy-
okay so I dunno if this is actual lore but
am I trippin or am I seeing fan hair dkugxsidhew
The 'handle with care' symbol looked too much like the Lightseeker symbol

This thing is from Lazada btw is that how the 'handle with care' symbol looks anywhere else
I
La- Zada~
is the rhythm director the brother of the skater girl?
now that's a take I haven't heard just yet-
We don't really know enough about them to be sure but we'd be blind not to notice the Rhythm and Belonging undertones of this season-
I think I finally figured out why is the forest elder so... mean (ok I know this is mean but I can’t find any better words QwQ)
No no it's fine- we call her mean too sometimes lmao
Oh
ye
I think maybe she’s too stressed?
or too impatient to go out of her limbo or smthng
like, she desperatley (dunno how to spell) wants to go out
hhhhhh
given that her realm is representative of Adolescence and WE'RE stressed 24/7 I don't think that's too far-off actually
this is silly and cool at the same time
I think she got a lot of problems to deal with
The “toxic” rain, the darkness, the crabs, the discovery of a new power
new power??
diamonds, prolly
How are we so sure that those specific problems didn't arise until after she was banished to wherever she is right now though
I guess you could argue that she's just that intrinsically tied to her realm
Yeah, I’ve thought of that, that’s possible, too
There's also the events that might have taken place from before she's taken to 'limbo'- power diamonds having been a major part of why the Kingdom fell in the first place
Agreed
Maybe the power diamonds attracted the "Darkness" to come?
prolly
Alternatively, the power diamonds caused a shift in balance between light and darkness
hmmm yah come to think of it
ye
And it also made the people of the land uhhhhh disconnect???? from The Megabird, in the concepts
i have a feeling its something to the term Too much of evrything is bad?

lmaoo
what happened while I was gone?
thinking about the diamond power attracted the darkness

diamonds, teth, handle with care symbol
L-lazada?
l a z a d a
wait LAZADA
yee
who be lazada
LAZADA
oH
oh lol

I don't think it's just the diamonds itself

my theory is that the eden diamond was responsible for the storm, like it was taking light from obit and then BOOM
also
That's the source of darkness taking over
l a z a d a
Omg hahaha
In my theory, the diamond has always been there. A combination of all the elemental lights that the Prenc\shiny boi collected
like they made eden diamond to draw light from orbit for their own purposes, but it was too much power for it to handle, and it went nuke
darn sky can be dark 
It helped them open a gate/portal to the orbit
But the catch is
IF GAME THEORY LOOKS AT THIS HE WILL BE PROUD
That diamond is reliant on the balance
Light and dark, good and bad
And as the people abuse the diamonds, go to war, getting farther from their divine being.. darkness fell

Throwing that balance off

The diamond explodes, destroying the lands, especially the castle the diamond resides
How I'm starting to see it I ghink we're looking at a Hollow Knight-esque situation
Sky is one big post-fallout simulator
There was Light, and there was Dark
Ye
And then- there was Sentience and free will
But
The corruption wasn't a kaboOM everything dark
It was gradual
The people felt it
I still think the village of dreams had blocked the gates to the village because the darkness wouldn't enter
It was enveloped by the clouds, like most of the kingdom
Because of the storm
Uhh
Oh yEAH
thats why

There's no darkness anywhere on the surface of Valley-
wait
Hack even Prairie has a good number of darkness on its surface
And that one is just blatantly Daylight
In my theory, every realms is a different part of the sky kingdom during different period, but sometimes it doesn’t work
Like...how come Valley develop so well after the darkness started to spread in the forest and then everything just went AWFUL
Sunset leaves so much more room for darkness so it's weird to me that it has less darkness than Prairie
AND there's an abundance.of light creatures there too
maybe the village members died from an avalanche cuz one of the houses are buried in snow
Ohhhhh the timeline theory... Thing- idk I don't remember the term for it
Valley developed before darkness plants even came
Remember seeing it in Theory Vault-
I imagine the plant came much later in the corruption period
didn't the plants come from rain?
No?
what if the twins sacrificed a part of themselves? That's why the arm has uhhh postrate? (is that what you call? Well, I mean that's why they have some artificial limbs or smthng)
If they did how would you explain the plants elsewhere
corpse plant theory
There's no rain in mazes
Yeah, it seems like that, that’s why the timeline theory doesn’t work sometimes
corpse plant theory
so not much darkness? Dunno mate, my brain not working
true
mine's in homeroom rn
I’m totally confused now
My brain isn’t working
ye
i think a piece of divine light could stave off darkness so part of me wants to agree with this
And I say a piece because the Twins count as one
anyways who chose us?
If it's us as in skids I don't think it's a matter of being chosen
i think i dum for this lol
So much as us being made for it
hmm intresting
Valley probably didn't have much darkness because there's not much source for darkness to grow there? Most of its people got to ascend in their deaths. Plus valley is big on celebrations and you know how most celebrations are based on/for gods
Idek
What's the reactions
dunno
idk krills sound nice
lemme explain
yeeee
no darkness is what i meant
krills are nice but crab statue supremacy is supreme
KREBULES
I think forest is worst than valley despite being farther from the storm is due to forest constantly being harvested from (wood and materials for power diamonds?) so it got damaged by that too. also valley is in a valley so the geography could have protected it from some of the storm's destruction
And since it's a residential area, there's no diamond production. GW and forest do
What if they tried to use the water element to power the dark stones and thats why the rain hurts.
O, that's a nice one
Im gonna wait for whoever said 🚫 to elaborate oop


It's a neat lookin' symbol-

But I prefer the handle with care one lmao
BRB got to answer my filipino test will get to you guys latr
mkay
Oof- good luck dude
goodluck on your test
May Krebcules bless you
good luck!
Someone forgot the law of equivalent exchange 
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Wait why?
They sacrificed an arm- nothing about the law said you couldn't replace the arm
I got theories for most of the realms, but Idk what happened to gw other than the war 
Probably safe to assume deforestation and general ecological collapse
To make way for factories and such
power diamond production as well? it has a machine just like forest does
Idk if the mural could still say much about that deforestation thing but I still stand by it having been a forest once
Forest Temple is a manta juicer
Hmmmm... That makes sense
Because we can't bring up power diamonds without bringing up how it's made lmao
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Ah yes, lets make all the children kneel stationary beneath the juicer
yEAH WHAT EVEN WAS UP WITH THAT-
Who repurposes a freaking factory into a temple-
or the other way around for that matter
soo one of my theories is that power diamonds are made of both dark and light materials, but the light core is produced in forest (hence the captured mantas and light miner spirit) and shipped to golden wasteland is where the dark outer shell is made and applied (hence all the darkness sludge everywhere)
Forest elder and her diamond babies
Just MAYBE they ran a barter system but like
Yee
Why would they have rich and poor communitues-
I don't think they were candles
As shown in Valley-
Candles aren't even currency
And uh. When she um. Used to uh. ”seduce”
They're offerings
bruh if they were would Candlemaker have been accused of printing money-
I also think that diamonds are made of darkness and light
Darkness since they can absorb your light and light since it keeps the darkness from absorbing too much light.
Okay but have yall seen LA forest mama
I need to see all the LA cutscenes. I only seen Wastelands.
Does anyone have all the “7 days of sky” twitter post about beta info? Its not in pins I think.
Forest Mama's cutscene was wAAAAY different
also small observation before being lit they have a blue tint~~ kinda like the crystals growing on the dead skykids before eden's pnr~~
She wasn't a flame snatcher
Check their twt, it hasnt been that far down
Oh my, this is getting more and more confusing xwx
Too much for my brain
She used to be all sad and sulking with her broken diamond but then we, skids approach her with a flame
Giving it to her
Shes a little sulky still
Honestly I can't blame her that much like- you try getting trapped in limbo-
For god knows how long
Im gonna go look for these cutscenes.
Yo off topic but, since yall talkin bout valley earlier
Yknow the maze chamber at the temple right? How come the right wing has crabs and the left one don't? I wonder if it symbolizes anything irl...? 😂
Proton, neutron, electron
Technically that's what happened-
in universe they go to orbit once you free them i think
I'M BACC
Then Proton is light, neutron being.. idk diamomd in its dormant state, electron is darkness
Positive energies and negative energies- plus that neutral state
Yes
i think we all are and that's why we're in this chat lmao
Eowdnndiwwmd
dude what we doin' now
HI BACC, I'M CHESCA
Figuring out how to translate electricity into power diamonds-
I think ima go eat ice cream bye byee
what if the mantas are manmade or am i thinking wrong
like the have the diamond pattern

dude we are living candles who rip out some part of our body to either give light to dead kids or make a light source...
That sounds weird, but it surprisingly makes sense

Because,, electricity forms in the shifting of protons and electrons
Light and dark
Too much information
darn bro
what the Megan is happenning
I've been too used to looking at them as batteries I'm sorry-
do u know how many tabs I have open
I can guess-
10?
Nvm
It's electrons shifting from one atom to another
That's how electricity works
Never thought that I can find someone to discuss this kind of things with me here, I love this community
sweet mother of Megan
the electric lights in office run on real electricity
Also happy to have you here XD
Batteries also need the flow of electrons
Just 2 actually sjjwnndd
bruh i have like 4-5 tabs open
4- 2 of which aren't safe for work-
Not even in the racy sense just like
Pretty sure I shouldn't have memes open while I work
the first 2 is my youtube and discord and the rest is for school
First boats now electricity
lots of it-
my braincell for school is really tiny like
oH RIGHT HAVE YOU UPDATED IT-
WITH THE SKI LIFT-
+smal potion
AYYYYYYYY
Oh, chibi with the small potion is just chibi
Slumbering Shipwright is smiling upon you-
No that's called a babey
If mantas are manmade... butterflies are manmade... wait...
is this cus sky kingdom ran out of fauna to kill 🤪 the other animals went extinct amirite, we only have masks to remember them now
fetus deletus
they probably made the mantas to snatchsave people
B, but the canon doc said all animals are not manma krilled
Nor are butterflies and I WILL defend that-
It's.. 9:20 in the morning
yeah
9:19 actually (dash)
Yes
I think the mantas were always just there regardless of skids
We see spirits riding them
ye
and finally we have answers for the flying race they ride mANTAS-
hhhhhh-
Okay but jetpots
yes
Dang before I thought basing your entire city off of sports was a little shaky but now there is manta races and, I understand completely.
you know how much chaos would unfold if the Twins get their hands on those things-
who need's wings when you have jetpots
n y o o m
📢
h j o n k
I gotta go for a bit brb keep loring ya'll-
hmm
holy Megan
you might be onto something here
The second one is feasible
Journey ≠ sky
Alternate universe means nothing has to matter
Pots
But kreb island
it's not since I is shorter and thicker than l
Kreb island
Theres the nice one in sanctuary but then they say “season stuff is sometimes just for funsies”
“Glass does not exist”
“Here are some sun glasses”
granted sunglasses are mostly plastic but
So what are krebs
Dark or light creatures
I hate those spirits
I DID THEIR MEMORIES ALONE
AS A MOTH
they made the manmade creatures for the pure world to remain or something idk
but how did they made the plastic
Also I like to continue pointing out, crabs are the only flightless creature.
B-but canon doc said that all of the creatures are man-ma- krilled
I believe in manta printers.
The one with the extra extra extra wings is because the printer got jammed
:>
🐛
died from storm
actually fish survived
the storm

so please shortly explain the CORPSE PLANT THEORY
Many ascended when they died, probably from the storm, the war and the ones in their memories. But the less fortunate ones..
Corpse plant theory yeah
Basically
THE CRYING SPIRIT IS THE SADDEST ONE TBH
The balls that we burn in the spirits are forming darkness plants
The spirit's corpse became plants
And they (the plants) consume the creature's light
That's why
When we burn them
We get light fragments
for candles...
Okay so
My receipts
Tearful Lightminer's memories
Slumbering Shipwright's memories
The skeleton in the boneyard (still not sure bout this one)
its a whale
Yeah
Oh
And the fact that the balls you burn inside the spirits' bodies count as a darkness plant in the quest
I did not know that
wait so we offer peoples cremated remains to get a cosmetic bruh thats messed up
When i was a moth i thought the crying spirit friend having a plant growing inside them was a glitch
The plants that grew randomly are probably scattered light fragments that got stuck and eaten by the plant like the one in the Slumbering shipwright's memories
Oh my

:>
So basically
here's a visual in case someone needs it
The less fortunate creatures of Sky
Also back-
darn he got decatenated
I love saying lore very basically to make it sound weird
Another example: skykids rip their life force out of their chests weekly and then go run around the entire world collecting it all again
Welcome to the lore chat 
Oh try the existential struggle of realizing that you were made to die over and over
*decapetaped
I still have to put that in the theory vault
I keep forgetting hnGH
What theory did you hear at the begining of rhythm? 
any more theories we should cover
AND IT AIN'T GONNA BE A FUN ONE-


Uhhhhh corpse plants
corpse plant theory
oh
Also yes pls put the corpse plants in Theory Vault sjckdkdkd
ok, I didn't miss anything
It needs more corpse
adieu
Yummy yummy
discussing a dark theory someone heard at the begging of 
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mmmmm, delicious
Theres a few in isle
There's like 2-3-ish
Oh it exists- just not as the one that we'd been seeing up until the Summit
NOW I THINK ABOUT IT MY CANON WERE YOU CAN EAT DARKNESS PLANTS IS LIKE ANYBODY BITE THE DUST
Supposed summit anyway
piggyback rocket 🚀
As for Eden there's a few theories for that
and I struggle to recount them all-
Vault could be handwaved as being something of holy ground... On holy ground, and that they'd found ways to avoid that darkness
Doesnt eden have enough darkness without corpse plants? 
They had enough information to pull something like that off
Vault exists physically, we just sorta hallucinate while we’re in it
Eden's lack of dark plants could be that there was either no one present in Eden to die
um bye im gonna go do the things i said i was gonna do
Or they'd been affected so badly that there was just nothing left
SO MUCH YOU DON'T NEED DARKNESS PLANTS
Nothing left for the dark plants to feed upon and thus there wasn't anything for a dark plant to latch onto
suddenly everyones pinging me
About light blinding people- that's not anything different for if you were stuck in a dark room with nothing to see
True
ALSO ANYWAYS DOES THIS MEAN THE BIG PLANT IN SANCTUARY IS ACTUALLY A CORPSE OF THIS 
:>
m a y b e
I didn’t like that spirit anyway
maybe :)
And all the crabs he put in sunhats? 
It could also be most of them as one big dark plant
So you're not just burning one tum tum spirit
But a whole pile of corpses
Im so confused by that emote tho
yeah like- I can't tell if that was them being hungry
Or sleepy
Because hunger wouldn't make sense seeing as we can't EAT
Well maybe spirits can eat
no lazy 😐
maybe they too were roasting krebs on a spit there
Wait whats the spirits name again
Chill sunbather
Ok
i think he was too lazy to dea lwith the crabs
Sunbathing in a cave
...but he lives in a cave...
...with crabs.....
Huh
How is that chill
Or sunbathy
bruh nothing is chill about a room full of kreb
That’s the point they were being chill despite the crabs
Ok but why did he try to put hats on them
Bored, probably
Sanc Guide: oH JESUS WHAT ARE THESE THINGS
Sunbather: hehe look they have little hats on them now
Krebules.
Some call it a pig, others a messed up krill-
What? I think it looks like a buffallo 🐃
PS sorry I am a late/back track reader
Maybe sunbather was in the cave cause they got sunburned and sanc guide made em get some shade
It is a crab or pig to me
Or is this its behind
crab
It has tiny horns on the front
How do you get to that statue anyway
no clue I just got dragged inside
Is it under the village?
yee
I went under the village mostly on accident and i ddint see it
wonder if Sunbather knew that he'd be back in that cave and the next time he did he was going to die
Along with his other tourist friends-
Also the child spirits
Theyre so cute
But theyre dead
just- dogpiling on each other and becoming an absolute abomination of a plant
Wait about dead spirits the memories we relive is it just the spirit we are reliving that died and then all the spirits with them are just from their memory
so technically
Here is my footage, the side view and the head view remind of a buffalo
the child spirits couldve lived
Oh yeah definitely- so they didn't ALL die where we'd relieved their spirits
Following context clues though if that wasn't a child's corpse that we were burning then it's definitely someone else's-
And that's only slightly less disturbing
So that probably shows that the memories arent what happened just before they died because sometimes spirits show up in multiple memoires
So the memory is a key moment in their life
or just a memory chosen to teach skykids something
Kind of, ye- like bro inagine Sightseer died on that cliff with her kid
Yeah um
Key moment sounds more plausible-
my friend and i were reenacting that cutscene
dangit this is why I don't go on my phone for Discord wckkekdjs
...i got on her back and she fell off the cliff
what made it even funnier is we were ‘performing’ for our new moth friend
Djejxjdjjd
So she just watched us fall off a cliff and then both of us were typing ’no thats not what happens aah’ and she was just staring at us
Anyway
lore
Why is there no plants subtopic in the vault doc—
Hh for something that we see so often in the game
I'm surprised there ain't anything
someone should make an iceberg of sky
I can't tell if it's dark plant or normal plants because we have no options for normal plants-
Except grass and why the flowers are bioluminescent
SOMETIMES
Maybe the correct term is bison, a symbol of abundance and wealth, but only if you honor everything as sacred and if you establish a deep connection to the Earth...
Could it be this is the reason devs put it so deep down...?

wait what-
The statue below the village
What is this majestic looking buffalo
I JUST REALIZED
And idk wasn't it described as a crab rock like one other time too
The lore channel was made on my birthday 
But why was it called "Krebules"?
Idk I think it was Chrome that came up with that- or at least that's the first time I'd seen someone use the term
kinda like Karen but it's a statue
and far more majestic
...I might have missed alot of Lore discussion, I know Megan, but who is Karen?
ohhhh
Also,, I should put the corpse plant theory in the creatures section right
Or,, environment..?
Oh. I never thought of give that a name, I thought of that as just the omen of the darkness and the krills
on the other it's about the Ancestors
About plants I thought of making a diagram about their evolution-grow, consider most of the plants seems early stages
Some just dark bulbs some with just a bulb and the leaves
Some with spiky bulbs (maybe and morphin stage from bulb to a sprouted leaf)
But it was hard along the moth to collect pictures all plants (even because I mostly found plants already burnt during CRs)
But I think plants eats small light creatures (butteflies like in GW hidden campire)
(which is one of the fee spot where we same butterflies before they are completely drained of their light/life-force)
speaking of candlerunning I gotta go do mine see ya'll in a bit
But if a plant is big enough they can capture
Medium big creatures, like the mantas we need to free
Though I am not sure if the plant in the Crying Spirit memory is a metaphor of something like the depression for the loss of their fellow miners (died during the cave in )
... corpse plant theory 
Or the lover, how I call the male spirit who later died in her (crying spirit) memories, maybe the lover was injured and thus some spore killed with an infection
Buuut if the plants could attack sky people there should be hundreds more plants around the lands (but they're not .. so feed out of smaller creatures seems more possible to me)
what do they mean when they say "you have received the ancestors gift"?
are the spirits our ancestors or what?
Our ancestors
What did I miss?
I want to ask, how Krebules name came up
?
Was it you, Chrome, who thought of that?
I made it up.
Why? I just heard it seems like a crab or a pig to some, but I think it looks like a buffalo/bison
As I explained here:
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
And here;
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Which now that I think of it is funny. Because. When Hercules fights the hydra there’s a little crab that tries to help, and snips at the hydra. And promptly is stepped on by. Uh either Herc or the Hydra. And so he was placed in the stars to honor his bravery. Hence the constellation/astrological sign Cancer.
Uh. @pseudo heart mentioned it was a crab and that seemed to be the going bit. I have no idea why people think it’s a crab. But. It satisfied my giggle needs.
I can see pig/bison. Yeah.
I honestly think the spirit orb can trigger. But since I don’t use chat in game it takes a lot of mimming to get my point across. “Get your candle out and let me position you like an extension of my arm.”
...
What to what?
What on what, oooh what?
what?
Whatty what what
Wha
We call the thing a crab because a) it looks like a crab
B) what other creature is even present in Sky that would have four legs like that thing
And c) because as much as it looks like a pig we've yet to see an actual pig in this game
Yooooo i know im not the only one who see it as a pig
not to mention most things are stylized in this game so really the closest thing that it really COULD be within the context of this game is a crab
Also does anyoen notice that both Valley seasons are centering on birds?
Some Rhythm spirits wear bird masks, even on their last cutscene they are depicted riding a giant birb. Dream's ultimate gifts are bird mas and bird wing cape, some spirits even wear bird mask as well
I noticed that stone also have smol ears and a tail as wrll
Birds in general seem to be important to Valley- plus that stone bird
oh yeah btw isn't it like- the year of the pig
The one outside citadel arch
Oh
You know- the beta leftover bird statue

Idk once we'd been told that even though it's a beta sacrificial leftover it still has room for lore
Plus you did just point out the abundance of bird imagery in the Valley seasons so it's gotta mean SOMETHING
Oh btw 2021 is the year of Ox
Ohhhhhh-
Earth Ox
I'm rusty on my zodiacs-

Aight so
Two Dream spirits wear birb mask, both are those who teach the skater child skating move (the twirling mentor and the cha-cha guy)
Majority of Rhythm spirits wear birb masks as well (4 of 6 spirits excluding the QG)
Im assuming birb-theme outfits are being wore by those who working on entertainment world, such as music group or skater
And im assuming birb outfit were boing wore by those who already famous
And the fact that... Dream ultimate gifts are two birb-theme outfit suggesting that the QG/the skater does already reach their dream to perform on the coliseum
both of them taking place in winter gives me expectations cksdkdkd
I mean... Valley basically on eternal winter so-
I'd ask for a peacock mask but how can you get more majestic than a phoenix
altho imo the ultimate cape looks more like roach wings to me-
Secretary birb
Not a peacock imo
Close enough- those things look like they do makeup for Megan's sake


what
People without pass after Rhythm
ok
so
the chat is rather quiet
thus i have some fun subjects to discuss—
- what was the darkness that made the elders and ancestors fall ?
- why do some ancestors wear capes but not all of them ?
- rather random, but i noticed that when viewing a candle through a spirit, the flame disappears. thoughts ?
for the first one I stand firm in believing that it was a mental darkness that made them fall
Could be a darkness that none of them were fully aware of and were only vaguely cautious of
Whether or not that darkness manifests into something more physical has had to have happened after they'd fallen
I think the japenese translation said something about a “mistake”
For the darkness to have been a mistake I believe that they'd either brushed off the possible consequences of their actions or they'd chosen to push forward in spite of it
I still don't think it was literally darkness though
Just- an insatiable thirst for something beyond just the 'light' that they chose to pursue
Could be due to them using a col to take the impossible-to-get-elements from season of prophecy. Since no mortal was able to get them. They abused those elements for their own reasons and ended up being consumed by it (also each realm is kind of suffering from the element that has been used ex. heavy rain in forest)
About the candle thing
ive noticed you cant see spirits thru spirits
and i think spirits are light
so maybe its something about not being able to see light thru light?
Sup lore people
What ya talking about?
Spirits have 2 forms, physical forms we see during their cutscenes and spirit form (basically their ghosts)
Basically they are made of pure matter like skykids but when they die they become light
Thats my thought
I believe, personally, that an ancestor wearing a cape is a sign they were wealthy or influential - a member of the upper parts of society if not aristocracy, or an honored individual.
Then again I also believe the maskless are examples of the poor — which would mean that Stealthy Survivor is ??? being maskless and yet having a cape. Or they lost their mask.
some of the caped spirits are obviously working class - like Pouty Porter. a porter is basically just someone who delivers heavy things, doesn’t sound very upper class to me
I threw in honor hoping to cover loopholes but...
He seems like someone entitled and petulant to me, giving the sense of someone who inherited a not-so-meager position. But I have nothing to base that on so chances are you’re entirely correct.
the memory is the spirit having difficulty lifting the ball-thing, honestly as someone who’s done heavy lifting it makes sense to get worked up after trying and failing to carry a heavy object to its destination
they strike me less as petulant and more frustrated
Ah. I didn’t read it as their being unable to lift it - they had it and then at the end it just. Wasn’t there.
But if they were unable to lift it... I suppose that makes sense.
The adjective “pouty” fed into my perception of their being a bit selfish. But I’ll try looking at them from a different perspective next time I relive the memory. Interesting.
There is a ring around the top of wasteland's temple
If you zoom in a ring in the top
candle run sounds like. A very nice town name. “down in Candlerun.”
I have my thoughts wasteland's temple is in fact a super weapon
It has multiple tubes atached to it and being near the structure makes clear how it has connections and a place for a diamond meaning it can be the place where eden diamond may have been at first
Thats high quality pic, thanks
Once because of that thing I thought it was a cathedral
Doesent look like a cathedral tbh
and then my friends told me that thing was in Battlefield and I did a 180
Lmao
I mean it can be true
Idk it looked like that to me because I see that design being associated with religious stuff
But i think its a superweapon
The place where the eden diamond was supossed to be in
Powered by the eden diamond
Idk if it'd be for the Eden Diamond specifically actually
Propechy shows us GW Elder having the Fire Element and using it on turrets
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_cross
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_(optical_phenomenon)
I think it’s intentionally incorporating these two elements, the first on the dev’s part, the second by King and using Eden’s beam-shine together with his mask-shape, propaganda / ego-stroking style.
And thank you for articulating why I thought it was a cathedral-
It may be a graphic error we see that cross and a different one in battlefield
When in battlefield you cant see the celtic cross but a 4 point star
I keep thinking this is a possibility, and that goes with the idea that either...
A) king truly wanted what was best for the realm and took pride in his work, consequences be damned
or
B) king truly wanted the power for himself and made it under the guise of it being an engine for the realm.
Eden diamond has qualities to power all the kingdom
My theory mixes boh comments said by @exotic berry
The king wanted the sky realm to ascend into being a mega powerhouse of energy
And also the king wanted godlike powers to himself
Well, we can only speculate on that point. We don’t know what it does, was intended to do, or what it’s actually doing now besides spewing redrock rain.
Eden diamond its the ultimate generator of energy in the sky world
What its their purpose? Idk
But has a ton of power lmao
That beam being able to be seen by naked eye since praire
I know more about the lore of this game than the subjects im supossed to learn in school💀💀
It having the potential to power the entire kingdom isn't that far-fetched but I do find it unlikely
@lethal stump pointed out a very good point that there’s a school of thought that the light beam we see the entire game isn’t generated by the diamond but rather existed before the diamond, in what concept art and story drafts call the holy land. The beam is thought to be the “bridge” allowing for the reincarnation of souls in Sky.
So the diamond in this scenario wouldn’t be making the beam, but actually be intended to be empowered by it (and arguably failing).
Ah the godly Ascencion bem
And the diamond only causes the massive storms of rocks and darkness?
Like the counter part of the holy beam
Hmm
Interesting
Not really if it was designed to be a power diamond
But there is a thing that concerns me, eden is a factory too
That likely wasn't the original purpose of the diamond, the storms
It has tubes connecting to the diamond probably so
Weird
Well i really dont know
Imma sneep now its 2 AM
Cya lore folks
oh god yes please sleep if it's past freaking midnight
The Vault mural shows what we think is King eating or holding possessively a sphere, which in the art direction notes is shown to be a symbol of megabird.
I personally take this to mean king wanted to harness either megabird’s energy or the energy of the megabird’s domain, not content with the power already embedded in Sky.
Nighty night Lucho
Night.
Isnt megabird not canon?
Sorry my last comment lmao
Ehhhhhh debatable
We don’t know. We see signs but like king there’s nothing strictly saying they are what the art suggests they are.
We don't know how much of Megan truly carried over in the final product
There's that ending screenshot post-credits yes
We do see her in the ending of the game
Final scene in the game and the laniakea supercluster (real supercluster of galaxies)
god and they wonder why I had doubts on the Megan heist
Sincerely i dont think the megabird its a living thing but a supercluster of galaxies
You can't successfully capture an entire freaking supercluster
All light forms ascendes into stars, gamaxies etc
I’m sorry I’m having FLCL Atmosk flashbacks.
Its an artwork but the supercluster its confirmed to exist, research it lmao
Yes I'm aware of it's existence
as i said
I think the megabird isnt alive, its a supercluster or a galaxy which has all light lifeforms in a ascended state (statues become stars in the sky.
Thats my theory atleast
Megan's sapience comes in two flavors I think- literal godly omnipotence or a collective entity operating on a pre-coded agenda
Megan? U gaved a name to the megabird? Lmao
Interesting theory, but if Megabird is canon they have agency.
at least from what I've seen from this chat so far that's what I'd gathered
It’s from a typo one of the devs made while talking about Megabird.
The name's cute lmao
Not a dev lmao it was bricky
Was it? Omy.
Oh
Yes
Megabird is a mouthful so
If this conversation were being had out loud I’d feel the immediate need to screech like an eagle after saying Megabird each time.
Its a nice theory
But for me its more majestic that its a supercluster of ascended stars filling the universe with life and expanding the reach of light than a
B i r b
Im joking dont take it seriously lmao:SkyLOL:
Rip emojis
just squawk every time we say Megan
So Megan is parrot
S q u a c k
Megan the megabird
Its a funny and wholesome theory ngl
god wait until you hear about how much we fight over Megan's questionable parenting
megan the birb
"So how do we call the most powerful being in existance?"
smokes candle
mEgAn
aNd itS a parRot
Nah. Even in the earliest stages Megan was planned to be of
c e l e s t i a l
m a g n i f i c e n c e
S q u a w k
sQuAwk

Oh yeah- Megan always just looking vaguely like a bird- concepts are wild
you know that a galaxy can be alive if you believe in them enough
Sometimes she's a lump of light and sometimes she looks like Loreal's poster girl
"yOu sEe thEre iS thiS biRb whiCh oWns uS aLl"
What did i told u about smoking candles jimmy
Ok i stop with the jokes, the theory of the megabird its truly interesting hehe
LOREAL POSTER GIRL-
and by that I mean have you see these long flowing l o c ks
mama teth have an opponent now
Mama forest VS megan
Prize: being the image of loreal

You mean galaxy filaments?
Megabird's always been a thing we're just struggling over exactly how it is that she fits in the lore of the final product
n o
t h r e a d s
Spaggeti
threads of life 
Star spaggeti
god imagine washing all that- no amount of photoshoots can save that

Idk when I see god-like entities with strands that long I just think it's representative of string theory

Life spaghetti
y e s
Life spaghetti
S T RING
Yes
cosmic spageth
'everything is connected' stuff like that-
Megabird supercluster
Size: probably billions of light years
My theory
Backed up by that one dev quote that said that every creature is connected to the light
Do they innately wish to return to the whole?
See that's the problem with a collective
Wait
If megabird its a bird
Are we its seeds?
And megabird eats us?
Free will is secondary to the light
But our will is the will of the light.
Exactly
So. Instrumentality.
Pretty much yes
That's a hunch I have on what exactly it was that drove the Elders away from the light
A Hollow Knight-esque scenario
Megabird is space Lilith. Ok.
There's Light, there's Dark
i appear
And then there's Sentience
sentience goes yeet-
Wait is that the three from Greece
ye
N o i c e-
Also heya Meow-
whast the topic
The space bird wants us to return to her flesh and we’re debating the existence of free will and it’s efficacy.
In this context- returning to the light ensures salvation for the Elders and the Ancestors
That would oddly align with my take of Skykids acting as psychopomps and easing spirits’ strong ties to the living world.
I just kinda call then janitors in place of that because god did the Elders make a huge mess out of everything
And then bird mom sends us down to clean up and die
im super new, but i'm loving the ties to figures such as the fates/norns/etc
(Spivakian pronouns?)
am just an agender mess, lmao
Oh heck- welcome to lore chat then XD
(Okie doke.)
np (i feel like i missed out on a reference here, I'm sorry TwT)
i feel that-
Welcome to lore chat. Take what we say right now with a grain of salt. I feel like we’re only half serious when talking about the Megabird.
aw heck someone else take over the links for me I have to get my quarantine cut out of my life
(Spivakian pronouns use ey, em, eir, emselves, etc i think)
Welcome to lore chat Sofa- don't traumatize them too much with our usual stuff Chrome XD
Vir out-
Byyyye
people have probably mentioned it before, but I think it's interesting how the 6 realms were originally named after times of day/night and how that relates to a human life
byeeeeee
lmao shes too mysterious to even speculate about
It is interesting. Very much so.
i just vibe with them bc they miss the "th" in they/them, so they feel genderless to me c:
going along with the greek mythology thing, there's the riddle the sphinx tells oedipus
Credit to @lethal stump
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"what walks on four legs in the morning, two in the afternoon, and three in the evening?"
Don't cold ping him
the answer is man, ie baby, adult, and elder with a walking stick
Sadness.
so i feel like there's strong precedent for the cycle of night/day to be related to the cycle of life/death
Oedipus freaks me out omg
Hadn’t thought of it in that particular way. Interesting.
Relating specifically to the Sphinx scene in any case.
oooo i didn't know the elders had names
But I do encourage you to look at the new lore moff doc. It’s infinitely informative.
I love that they're named after hebrew letters
literally doing that rn!!
They're no longer canon but fanon
i also just got to that part lol
lmao when you see a timestamp on a comment on Youtube but you're watching that part
I shall be playing a bit. If anyone needs anything, do ping me. 
And it’s a pleasure to meet you Sofa. We hope to see you around a bit. 
woah chat sneep
THE REALMS AND SYMBOLISM
Isle- Dawn, Birth, Primitive Civilization
Prairie- Daytime, Childhood, Iron Age/Medieval Age
Forest- Rain, Teenagehood, Industrial Revolution
Valley- Sunset, Young Adulthood, Information Age(?)
Wasteland- Dusk, Mid-life Crisis, Rampant Consumerism/Downfall of Civilization
Vault- Night, Old Age, Remnants of Civilization
Eden- Storm, Death, Ruins
Also here's the gross oversimplification of the symbolisms the devs usedfor the game- forgot to pull that up earlier cuz I was on my phone askajsjakk
sometimes ago there is people said in this channel that he will make a website focus on Sky lore for people easy to research, how was that project? I feel a bit diffcult to read about Sky lore since seem dont have a hub center for it.
While we don't really have a 'hub' we DO have the pins
and actually now that you mention him I haven't seen him in a while-
the pins sure help but I can't find the lore for each spirit memories
not sure if there is one existing though.
Ohhhh- there's a compilation of spirit memories in the pins as well
Lore- well- we're still tryna piece together the ones that make an impact
Here are the compilation of spirit memories if you need 'em
not sure if anyone's made a doc outright explaining the things that happen in each memory because most of them are self-explanatory





