#lore-discussion-spoilers | Sky: Children of the Light | Page 656

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Maybe it's a region-specific shipment? Like it could only make it's rounds within Wasteland

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Wasteland being at sea-level would probably help

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:02 AM

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again, why not just fly ?

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just fly overtop the realm

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:03 AM

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because it's a separate civilization that hasn't had as much help from the elders of our section of sky

royal vessel Dec 18, 2020, 12:03 AM

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maybe flying is dangerous or not possible because of weather or other stuff

fast jasper Dec 18, 2020, 12:03 AM

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ship probably got grounded by a krill

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:03 AM

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fast jasper ship probably got grounded by a krill

it doesn't have any ors tho

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:03 AM

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It traveled on water too, so it can't be grounded

fast jasper Dec 18, 2020, 12:03 AM

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o

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:04 AM

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imo, shipwreck implies the existence & diplomatic relations with a different civilization

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:05 AM

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So a civilization from elsewhere also uses power diamonds- or at least, knows about the craft?

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:05 AM

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they know about it, but the sky kingdom is their trading partner in producing them

royal vessel Dec 18, 2020, 12:06 AM

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btw the theory that the rest of gw looked like the renovated area around the enchantment wreck is popular belief right?

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:06 AM

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i had to read that twice what

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:06 AM

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what?

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:06 AM

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it’s contested what gw looked like before all hell broke loose

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some believe it was always a desert, others think it was like prairie, others think it was like forest (i’m one of those dudes), so we can’t say for certain what’s « popular »

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I'm vouching for forest too -because of that mural in Forest

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I think it was something like a giant oasis

royal vessel Dec 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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golden wasteland looked like the forgotten ark pre-apocalypse

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i thought that was a popular theory

eager hull Dec 18, 2020, 12:09 AM

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when you shine your light on wasteland its a golden color, and with the name, i believe it was a rich desert full of temples and other things :DD anything works though

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:09 AM

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📎 SKY_20201026_172358_.jpg

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this one right here

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:09 AM

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that’s the forest temple, though, it’s not wasteland pSquint

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:10 AM

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royal vessel i thought that was a popular theory

i mean, ultimately, does it matter ? popularity of a theory doesn’t really mean much SkyShrug

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Is it- the silhouettes don't really match to me-

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:10 AM

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it does to me, i was just in forest

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forest temple is tall & lanky like in that pic
gw temple is fatter

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Man I am going to need to apologize to so many people

royal vessel Dec 18, 2020, 12:11 AM

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lethal stump i mean, ultimately, does it matter ? popularity of a theory doesn’t really mean ...

ofc i just thought that's the most logical one tbh i didn't really know any of the other theories

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:11 AM

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yeah and the pointy bits on the sides would be taller if it were gw

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:11 AM

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and there’s no king silhouettes, if it was gw there would be propaganda

rapid juniper Dec 18, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Yes

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Time to write my formal apology-

rapid juniper Dec 18, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Well

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:13 AM

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queen locust Time to write my formal apology-

good luck

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anyways I wonder if the other civilizations were effected by eden doing it's thing

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:15 AM

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considering we see zero hints of the civilization being alive, i’d imagine it was destroyed too ?

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i mean, if there had been a huge explosion and one of your trading partners was wiped from existence, you’d investigate & possibility hang out their now unclaimed land

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:17 AM

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do we have a confirmed map of sky?

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:17 AM

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nope 😔

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:18 AM

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dang it

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looks like I might want to find time to do a full cr and track what way I go from realm to realm

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:19 AM

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all i know for sure is that eden is to the south

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:20 AM

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we really don't have a sense of north south east or west do we?

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:20 AM

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we do, the sunset in valley

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:20 AM

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unless we assume that the sky planet rotates the same way our does

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:21 AM

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tgc has made note to assume sky’s world works (mostly) like ours

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:21 AM

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hmm alright

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:21 AM

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so it’s not unreasonable to assume their sun rises in the east, sets in the west
eden is to the left of the setting sun, thus eden is to the south or southwest

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:22 AM

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so we're traveling towards the setting sun right?

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:22 AM

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no, we’re travelling south

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we don’t go towards the setting sun

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:22 AM

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don't we for most of the journey?

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like in the general direction of the sun

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:24 AM

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(assuming this sun is on the path to setting and is to the west)
it’s the wrong angle, just slightly, i’d say eden is to the sw and the sun is to the west

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sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:24 AM

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hmm

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btw we are in a green blue yellow galaxy cloud thing

📎 SKY_20201216_142652_2.jpg

rapid juniper Dec 18, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Hm

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 12:28 AM

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a nebula, you mean ?

sacred rapids Dec 18, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I know it doesn't really matter I just thought it was neat

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:35 AM

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so chat died-

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 12:45 AM

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CHAT DIED
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Is the blue butterfly in valley lore-worthy or does it exist merely to look cool

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Once u let go of it, u can't get it back until u come back to the place a second time.

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Apparently

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Also there are blue lights flying upwards too-

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I assumed that they were the blue butterflies-

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 1:16 AM

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they’re also blue butterflies ye

burnt drum Dec 18, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Repost:

what do you guys think of the broken thing infront of the door.

Mine's that

📎 Screenshot_2020-12-17-07-29-16-32.png

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 1:31 AM

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pPopcorn

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[eats popcorn in beta]

burnt drum Dec 18, 2020, 1:31 AM

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eats popcorn in #news and the trailer

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pSquint

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Hey, I have always wondered: how did the spirits all die?

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 1:45 AM

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we don’t know SkyYay

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it’s up to you to make up

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Hmm, any theory’s?

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 1:46 AM

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personally i think they either died from old age or the eden explosion

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Maybe from krills

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Plants consumed them

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Most

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Huh, that’s kinda dark but also makes sense

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 1:48 AM

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The corpse plant theory,, ye

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:48 AM

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What if krills are born from darkness plants?

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 1:48 AM

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I just woke up, nothing makes sense yet.. Good morning ebribodi

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Unlikely

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 1:49 AM

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wispy parcel Hey, I have always wondered: how did the spirits all die?

depends on the spirit's, although many of the memories aren't at the time of the spirit's death, although there are some exceptions (like the SkyFaint spirit in wasteland)

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:49 AM

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True

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 1:49 AM

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That guy just fainted

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They're called the fainting warrior

hybrid oxide Dec 18, 2020, 1:50 AM

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moth me: pretty sure he died

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Hah

short owl Dec 18, 2020, 1:50 AM

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~~feinting is less horrifying than death. then again, we deal with worse concepts regularly so...~~

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 1:50 AM

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i don’t think they just fainted, it’s pretty clearly meant to be a death scene
right down to the limping, holding their side as if they had an injury
it’s just our childish mind interpreting it as « fainting » imo

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 AM

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yeah he died, he was limping obviously wounded, even if that wasn't his exact death I would imagine he didn't survive long after

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Oof

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Probably

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 AM

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F

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 AM

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F

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 AM

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we as (sky) children simply interpreted it as fainting

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Anyone has in handy the little introduction to lore Sky? I can’t find it pCry

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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oop brick beat me to it

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Lore Moff Doc (ESSENTIAL, credits to Bricky)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing
The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :)

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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What do you think krills are/come from

short owl Dec 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Ali beat us all to it

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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SkyYay

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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SkyLOL

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 1:53 AM

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~~you guys do know the theory and canon docs are linked in the moff doc, right~~

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 1:53 AM

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yeh

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Thank uuu

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 1:54 AM

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wispy parcel What do you think krills are/come from

Personally, I think krills and maybe other dark creatures have always existed just light creatures always have.

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 1:54 AM

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wispy parcel Hey, I have always wondered: how did the spirits all die?

from my perspective:
Proud Stance: fell off the cliff
Shiver: sickness ofcourse
Cry: Probably age
No/X: Possibly starvation in the cave
Playdead/Faint: Toxic poisoning
Arms out stance: Most likely hit by a krill
Sneak stance: Krill
Salute: Most likely stranded
Archer: Probably messed up with their bow&arrow

still thinking abt the rest of the spirits

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Thank you!

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Though it's kinda weird how krills are the only dark creature we see in the game.. I wanna highkey see the spiders from Beta lmao

wispy parcel Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 AM

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There are spiders in beta?

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Toxic poisoning aaaahhEyes

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 AM

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krills arent the only dark creature ? crabs ? shadows ???

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 AM

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werent the krills headless spiders that flew and grasped at your skykid from behind in pre-launch? stickerShock

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Lights awaits have that?

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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ive seen an image of it, but i dont remember which mod sent it

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Holy-

lethal stump Dec 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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pEyes

short owl Dec 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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pShadow 🦀 pKrillPing a trinity

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 1:58 AM

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wispy parcel There are spiders in beta?

I don't think krebs are dark creatures

short owl Dec 18, 2020, 1:58 AM

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🐦 pManta pJellyfish another trinity

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 1:58 AM

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shadows r dust bunnies there is no other logical answer
||maybe sleep paralysis demons or hallucinations but thats too much-||

short owl Dec 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Shadows are Daleth inside a dust bunny

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with two staffs

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:03 AM

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wispy parcel There are spiders in beta?

Iirc in the EARLY early versions of Sky: LA, there were spiders grasping the stone corpses of the spirits, when you trigger the cutscene, you'd scare the spider away with your flame

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It's in the Beta album in the pins

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Hold on lemme find a pic

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It didn't stay for long tho

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steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:05 AM

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my storage is so low on my phone that i cant even download photos from icloud jesus christ

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lemme just

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deletes calculator

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:06 AM

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NOT THE CALCULATOR

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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i never use it
begone math tool pKrillBEAN

rugged barn Dec 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Hi, anyone have the beta krill pic? I remember it was being mentioned yesterday

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:10 AM

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beta krill? you mean the concept art krill?

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:10 AM

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📎 128_Sky2.jpg

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:10 AM

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yeh

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:10 AM

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The krills in beta don't differ much from the one in live

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Except that they apparently had violet eyes

rugged barn Dec 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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That's scary alright...

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Eh? It looks very huggable to me

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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CHUB KRILL

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CHUB KRILL

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GIVE US THE CHUB KRILL

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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CHUB KRILL pFIRE

storm crater Dec 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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KRILL ON A STRING

rugged barn Dec 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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They resemble the whale

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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I WILL BUY 15 PLUSHIES OF CHUB KRILL

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Because the concepts for dark creatures back then was that they were corrupted iirc

rugged barn Dec 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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storm crater KRILL ON A STRING

Someone need to make that

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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They're like.. covered in darkstone

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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i misread that as Club Krill and I'm like

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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club krill kewfjpiWJIFPAEWj

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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cBattiChubbersB cBattiChubbersR

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I thought it was a Club Penguin thing except you're not penguins you're krill

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and then I'm like- can you even make like... card-jutsu but with krill

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:14 AM

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dancing_pengu

rugged barn Dec 18, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Club krill, where you party with krills and get krilled by them

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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queen locust i misread that as Club Krill and I'm like

like a krill but it's light is color changing and it's blasting Caramelldansen

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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normal berry like a krill but it's light is color changing and it's blasting Caramelldansen

i hate it- i hate that i can picture it so VIVIDLY

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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meanwhile in eden...

storm crater Dec 18, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Krill

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steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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normal berry like a krill but it's light is color changing and it's blasting Caramelldansen

dance on winged lights
krills attacking skykids
realms, across realms
i now wont go to wasteland
its no lie
reika in the crowd said:
“Look! Ktjn now has a custom Krilltjn mesh”
oo-oo-krill-oh-woa-aoh

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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hdfhoisvhfisvp

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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storm crater Krill

this is in my room pkrilleye

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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steady pollen dance on winged lights krills attacking skykids realms, across realms i now wont...

i want to die- i sang that out loud- why does it fit-

storm crater Dec 18, 2020, 2:18 AM

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the krill is just the worm when it goes o f f the string

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:18 AM

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time to make a black worm plush and just add a giant red or blue ball as the eye for a krill plush

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actually ill do that the next time my mom has us go somewhere

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i dont have any black felt or red felt sobbing

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:19 AM

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storm crater Krill

FINALLY IT'S NOT JUST ME

storm crater Dec 18, 2020, 2:19 AM

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I found an actual krill

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storm crater Dec 18, 2020, 2:20 AM

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pseudo heart FINALLY IT'S NOT JUST ME

Lol

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:20 AM

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storm crater I found an actual krill

YOOO
YANKRILL WITH TWO EYES

rugged barn Dec 18, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Just add the red thing and it will look like an actual krill

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:20 AM

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time to buy an aquarium and a black rose shrimp (species of shrimp appear all black) and name it the d a r k d r a g o n

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:20 AM

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YES

livid valley Dec 18, 2020, 2:20 AM

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what

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did

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i

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came back to

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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chubby krill

rugged barn Dec 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Chub krill

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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look at the chub krill

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pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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I looked up what black rose shrimps looked like..

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LITERALLY KRILLS pFIRE pFIRE

📎 images_-_2020-12-18T102116.818.jpeg 📎 images_-_2020-12-18T102106.274.jpeg

rugged barn Dec 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Yes

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Let's name them all krills

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:22 AM

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not enough spikes / legs pFIRE

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 2:22 AM

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steady pollen not enough spikes / legs <:pFIRE:649389886318575616>

not enough impending doom

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this is more impending nyoom

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:22 AM

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not enough bloom on the eye

rugged barn Dec 18, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Not enough scariness

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:22 AM

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this makes me want to make an aquarium replica of golden wasteland and buy some

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Time to shove an LED light in their faces

rugged barn Dec 18, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Add more chaos and corruption to the shrimp

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Make it like.. blinking between red and light and play caramelldansen non stop

stoic stirrup Dec 18, 2020, 2:23 AM

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pseudo heart LITERALLY KRILLS <:pFIRE:649389886318575616> <:pFIRE:649389886318575616>

wow i can't belive they made the krill in real life!!!! 🤯

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:23 AM

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anyways, I do believe we are a bit off topic, let's get back to lore

pseudo heart Dec 18, 2020, 2:24 AM

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stoic stirrup wow i can't belive they made the krill in real life!!!! 🤯

Sky inspired nature

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:24 AM

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pseudo heart Sky inspired nature

life imitates art pEyes

steady pollen Dec 18, 2020, 2:24 AM

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this is lore now
caramelldansen krill
chubby krill
real krill

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:24 AM

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fair.

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I have an idea

storm crater Dec 18, 2020, 2:24 AM

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ripe turret Dec 18, 2020, 2:37 AM

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fuzzy worms?

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what are they called?

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:42 AM

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worm on the string?

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you mean worms on the strings?

ripe turret Dec 18, 2020, 2:47 AM

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yes

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so there called worms on strings?

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 2:57 AM

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yuh

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you can usually find them in groceries stores i think, or you can buy them online

ripe turret Dec 18, 2020, 3:00 AM

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cool thanks

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:06 AM

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pffft what is going on here X'DD???

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Krill on string?!

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 3:11 AM

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well krill off the string now

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oh no it's loose r u n pEyes

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:22 AM

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😰 oh no!!

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SkyWhew Ah right, anyhoot, got interesting theory which idk if been done before but here’s goes I guess?

What if those glowing child like figure that stands there, the one you collect for your flights. What if, those are the fragments of the First SkyKid aka the Prince?

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What if the ones in the little caves you find in Isle, Prairie and Forest, retell about how the child themselves felt safe within the shelter, away from whatever goes on out there

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 3:27 AM

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actually that is a very popular theory

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my theory is that we are the fragments of the prince, reincarnated

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:27 AM

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SkyLOL Oh so I’m not the only one thinking about that , good to know ahu

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:28 AM

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It's the crutch of several other theories that build upon that idea actually-

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 3:28 AM

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and the glowey bois are the souls of fallen skykids

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so in a way, my theory also supports that too

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:28 AM

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mhmm something like that!! Though I do imagined little bit more of memories, if that ever different from fragments lol

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:28 AM

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sand abyss mhmm something like that!! Though I do imagined little bit more of memories, if ...

Oh- then I might have something

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:29 AM

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eyesshaking brain going little wild with potential stories for these fellas

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:29 AM

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THE PRINCE IS THE PROGENITOR OF ALL SKY KIDS
Disclaimer: This theory rides on a lot of what-if's and is built on heavy amounts of speculation.
Theories mentioned: Prince is split into the sky kids, Winged Lights are Prince's memories

Assuming that the Prince is the Child of Light and that the Winged Light- imprints of the Child of Light- work the same way that the spirit memories did, he has several scattered memories throughout the lands. Currently, there are 92 Winged Light scattered throughout the lands, excluding the Wing Buffs granted to you by Ascended Spirits. The Prince's memories of the Kingdom are extensive and vast- as seen by the various locations of the Winged Lights- but there is a worrying amount of his memories gathered just before the Point of No Return in Eden. Eight of them are found in the final temple before heading into the Eye of Eden- simply crouching by the statues. These Winged Light are quite unlike the other ones we'd encountered until now- hunched over instead of standing.

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Because these memories are found in various areas of the Kingdom where the Kingdom is in a dilapidated state, it's possible that the Prince himself must have undergone the same death and rebirth process as we have once- but rather than it being a simple case of him just throwing himself into the same loop over and over again, think of it as him being in a downward spiral instead. Every time he fails and dies, the way that time had worked until them cracked and broke a little more. Eventually he hits the bottom of that downward spiral- a singularity, if you will- and that final memory before the Point of No Return was his last attempt before karmic destiny eventually came and took him- and this was perhaps what caused the splitting of the Prince into several consciousnesses. Each scattered fragment of him becomes a sky kid in order to mitigate the damage he's done to the timeline. Perhaps this is why he is 'not around to be saved anymore'- because he becomes what we now know as sky kids.

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thank god for notepad

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 3:31 AM

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my theory is like, he was destroyed by the eden impact (and depending on how optimistic you want to be) the prince either
a. saw what he had done and regretted it, and in a last ditch effort reincarnated the fragments of his shattered soul into skykids to try to fix the destruction and suffering of his people

or

b. the megabird was like "hey your not done yet, you broke it you fix" and reincarnated him

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:32 AM

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That's three-

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 3:32 AM

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eh?

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:32 AM

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Out of a dozen theories building on WL = fragments of the Prenc

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idk it might not be a dozen I lost count after 5

normal berry Dec 18, 2020, 3:32 AM

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it's two, he either reincarnated willfully or the megabird made him

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oh

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OH

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i get it now

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alrighty ima sneep, gnite!

pastel brookBOT Dec 18, 2020, 3:35 AM

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#lore-discussion-spoilers needs some SNEEP SNORP stickerSleep

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Aight bye Ri- have a good sneep

pastel brookBOT Dec 18, 2020, 3:35 AM

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OreoYes

bright zealot Dec 18, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Lol

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:35 AM

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pThink mhm mhmm
And pffft nini Ri!

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:35 AM

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sneepy snorp

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and screw that noise skybot it's noon over here-

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:38 AM

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SkyLOL same here lol, not night time yet~
But yeah its interesting how the Prince may play important roles when it comes to the Sky Kingdom.

For all we know of, the Prince just some kid to who the Ancestors seem to be very surprised the moment they saw him, especially how he exceed all four of the trials by himself, while seeing other ancestor contributors fallen to their potential death/slumber.

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:38 AM

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It's likely they just straight-up died- or at least were crippled enough that they aren't able to function as members contributing to the rise anymore

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:38 AM

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( at least that's how I interpret the murals in the Prophecy Cave haha x'D)

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Either way they're out of the picture-

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Hmm true true, all of the seven...or was it eight??, contributors laying dead on the ground while one lucky boi gets to pass the tests lol

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SkyLOL stinky lucky boi

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Eight yeye

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:40 AM

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lurks

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pShadow

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Heya Kokichi

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Hi

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Eyy Kokichi!

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:40 AM

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If that really was the Prince, luck might just be a small factor to his success

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It's the Prophecy after all- he might have been destined for it right off the gate

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:41 AM

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True
Also hi

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Hmm perhaps so, since after all, the Prophets may seems to have some knowledges as to who's going to rule the entire Kingdom, with such attributes the Ancestors would never seen them before in their lives, until now of course SkyLOL

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Heya Penguin!

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Uh guys? I have a question also this pic ain't mine

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Why is the oob so beautiful? Was it intended?

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Prophets: hmmm now who could this prophecy be about-

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:42 AM

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That OOB was based off of the Valley Twin's Cutscene

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Stargazer: ELDERS- THIS CHILD FELL FROM THE SKY

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Or was it the part season of winter season

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Prophets: lucky us did we just waste 8 students for no th i n g

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:43 AM

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intended for the Valley Elders' Cutscene since that area been used as a background~

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pfffttt

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:43 AM

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you mean d e a d students

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:43 AM

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I need to look at the murals again
Is it 8 dead children?

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Prophets: Well gosh damnit we shouldve see it going

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mhmm should be eight ancestor children

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:44 AM

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I think 8

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:44 AM

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🙏 rest in pasta for them,,if that's the case that is

weak wharf Dec 18, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Hey what're we lorin' 'bout in here-

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:44 AM

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SkyLOL stuffs about the Prince, Prophecy, stuffs like that lol

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Heya derg- mostly Prophecy and the Prenc

weak wharf Dec 18, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Nice-

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:45 AM

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sand abyss 🙏 rest in pasta for them,,if that's the case that is

Ik this isn't lore related but uh flood

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IT'S ALL THE WAY TO MY KNEE

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:45 AM

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that... brings back fond memories

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:45 AM

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stickerShock Off topic but please be safe out there!!

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Wat fond?

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:45 AM

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sand abyss <:stickerShock:669711973797068801> Off topic but please be safe out there!!

Tenk chu

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:45 AM

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the Philippines gets flooded weekly I hope you're okay Kokichi

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:45 AM

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This is the first time since i was 4 that there was a flood this big

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:46 AM

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My creek was flooded once halfway up my backyard but thats the only flood i remember

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anyway back to lore

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Lore?

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:47 AM

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We stopped at 8 dead children

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well they kind of look like teens at least

weak wharf Dec 18, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Oh tha students-

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They look somewhere around 14-16-

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:47 AM

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We see actual children in Sky with Sightseer

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So these are older kids

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:47 AM

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like teens even

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:47 AM

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and unfortunately unlikely to be young versions of spirits we've already seen

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won't stop me from playing it up for angst though

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:48 AM

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stickerShiny _ a n g s t _

weak wharf Dec 18, 2020, 3:48 AM

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The prophets seem to be teaching them yoga most of the time lmao-

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Relaxation before the Storm kicks in

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aka the Prince

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:48 AM

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ah yes- the storm before the s t o r m

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Teaching them important life skills before they kill them all off

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:49 AM

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life skills like doing a handstand

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:49 AM

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...yeah that

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:49 AM

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on floating rocks

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Yes

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Guys I'm scared

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Hm ?

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Like literally scared

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:49 AM

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and holding them up with once hand and standing on one foot on a floating rock

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:49 AM

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hushed steeple Like literally scared

Just make sure to find somewhere safe, away from the flood water

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:49 AM

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I had to move because the water is literally as high as the bed

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And I'm scared to get leptospirosis

weak wharf Dec 18, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Oh yikes-

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:50 AM

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also make sure you don't have any open wounds when wading in the murky murky yuck water

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:50 AM

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So my dad just carried me to this wooden chair

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:50 AM

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leptospirosis is a sucky disease

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Yea

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Huh ? What is that

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:50 AM

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A type of infection or disease

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:51 AM

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No I mean, what is the thing about wood .

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:51 AM

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That lurks around dirty waters i think

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O

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:51 AM

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I can't say what it's caused by exactly but just know it has to do with rats

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:51 AM

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IT'S STILL RAINING WTH

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Try to relax and maybe talk it out with someone

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:52 AM

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SkyPray stay safe

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Water was probably stuck in a place who enter inside it

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:52 AM

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...anyway, prophets

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Prophecies

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Do we have any theories on what the prophecy was

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:53 AM

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SeasonProphecy SkyDontGo

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Oh no its late

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Only thing i can eat is this bag of homemade cookies my sister sells

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:53 AM

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its like 10 i need to sneep
Goodbye

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Gn

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Oh- have a good sneepy snorp Indigo

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Gn again

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Nini Penguin!

hushed thorn Dec 18, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Thanks pAww
Have fun, good luck and good night

weak wharf Dec 18, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Actually what's the deal with those white particles floating around in the air-
Are those just- really really big pieces of dust, or...

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Like- the ones floating around in Sanc and Wasteland?

weak wharf Dec 18, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Ya-

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:55 AM

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yeah I've got no clue what those are either

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:55 AM

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SeasonDreams SkyThink

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:55 AM

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I've always thought they looked like fish

sand abyss Dec 18, 2020, 3:55 AM

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probably just some special effects I guess?

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:56 AM

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But I'd get spotted by a dark creature of some kind before I take a closer look

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:56 AM

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fishtail fishbody fishahead

weak wharf Dec 18, 2020, 3:56 AM

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I've seen theories of them being manta food, so I dunno-

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:56 AM

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If they were manta food, why would they be floating around in places that were so desolate

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:56 AM

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This is a whale

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:56 AM

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we know-

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:57 AM

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One of the most bigger creatures in Sky
You have between this and the giant manta
About the giant bones

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 3:57 AM

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What about the giant bones?

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:57 AM

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In gw and vault

weak wharf Dec 18, 2020, 3:58 AM

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The Vault bones-
I dunno what bones they are actually-

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 3:58 AM

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We see manta in vault
But bone are so big
Hmm

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pCosmicManta

weak wharf Dec 18, 2020, 4:00 AM

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They kinda seem like the bones that belonged to the dead baby cosmic manta-
But wayy bigger-

deft lintel Dec 18, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Yea

storm crater Dec 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Are the bones the giant whale we see in that one island area in the prairie constellation?

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Cuz like, they’re around the same size

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Mmmm belonging symbol is suppose to be a chain right

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And yet we see the same symbol everywhere in valley hmm

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Here is the thing

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Belonging Chain might symbolize family connection, but what if the same symbol have a different meaning for the kingdom?

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Most noticeable is in Valley, where the symbols are literally everywhere... what if its somekind of propaganda too?

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'You are chained to the highest leadership'

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Valley is said to be the peak of civilization, makes sense if the people are tend to be more carefree and have more freedom in valley

This kind of carefreeness can become dangerous if it left unantended, leading people to question the leadership and forming rebellion

willow shoal Dec 18, 2020, 5:05 AM

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pSquint

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Thats why they placed SeasonBelonging symbol in many places in valley

It either have 2 meanings : one that we are family to be always together in one leadership no mayter the confition, and two is as constant reminder that the highest leader is absolute and no one should dare to interfere

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A chain to connect, but also to bound

undone harbor Dec 18, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Or that symbol is really fancy and the king puts it everywhere he likes

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"Valley race king brand "

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I find it ironic that, Valley Realm, which is supposed to be the height of civilization, has 2 chaos twins that fight and wreck havoc.

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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I mean

Without them Valley would be pretty bland innit-

tribal badger Dec 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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in the beta cutscene they have the capability to use light to become propellers and fly upward

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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PROPELLERS

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AKDJSKDJ

tribal badger Dec 18, 2020, 6:23 AM

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IM NOT JOKING THEY FLEW U P

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 6:23 AM

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I KNOW

tribal badger Dec 18, 2020, 6:23 AM

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HJSJWJW

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 6:28 AM

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undone harbor "Valley race king brand "

Like how those brands advertise their stuff on car race? pEyes

tribal badger Dec 18, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Nascar for valley

soft hamlet Dec 18, 2020, 6:30 AM

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[WARNING, GRAPHIC CONTENT]

|| There was a man, lonely, lost and submerged by grief. He knew that he was literally the only human alone in this world. So he just wandered here and there, tiredly, sadly and sickly while he gave up on everything on life. On the hot sand, tainted yet golden and shiny, we kept wandering.

Suddenly he saw himself hurting from his inside. He felt that there was something that wanted to burst from the bottom of himself. He began vomiting blood and coughing so hard. He realized that there is really something that want to burst out of his body.

The pain was unbearable and he passed out bue to the extreme pain he felt and eventually died. After that his body teared apart and a deformed skeleton has taken the place of the man. The skeleton, then turned black and grew up, grew up and grew up in order to look like a gargantuesque monsters that can be only found in the deepest of the deep-minded.

The terrifying dark creature, once bursted out of the man, began to wander here and there, as the man always did, to the nothingness.||

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This was eventually for a possible origin story of krills

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Oh dang

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Now thats a good one

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pEyes

soft hamlet Dec 18, 2020, 6:36 AM

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pHelloKrill

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Impressive use of imagery ngl

livid valley Dec 18, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Nice

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But

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Who

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Is

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That

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Specific

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Humanoid figure

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 7:45 AM

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is exactly one of my sentiments-

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secondly- how would i have proliferated and spread

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 8:01 AM

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so they added orrearies on the stadium too...

📎 SKY_20201218_093611_.jpg

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:03 AM

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yep

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:03 AM

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yes they did- and I'm here like- do they ALSO observe the night skies from here-

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:04 AM

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what?

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are these for watching night skies?

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I always saw them as just something to fly through and I was sure that was the case here

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:05 AM

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That's what I always assumed the orreries are for- but really these might just be like- miniature models

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:06 AM

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or both... or these are indeed loops, but uh.. Inspired, because the sky was important for spirits as well... I think

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thay came from the kingdom after all

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:06 AM

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An Armillary Sphere was basically like a spherical model of the solar system- that's what the large, complete one in Citadel looked like it was at least

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:07 AM

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yeah
I mean, in my opinion it could just be a reference to that model, but they might function as loops

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but for that, spirits would have to fly

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:07 AM

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They could- on mantas, apparently

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And they did- because the Backflipping Champion did so

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Like- smack dab in the middle of the Orrery

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:08 AM

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ah, good. I wasnt sure if we knew if spirits could fly

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with capes

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:08 AM

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at least we finally got an answer for how they could like- race in the flying race-

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:09 AM

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yeah, I was wondering about that race too.

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:10 AM

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I guess that also explains why several mantas race along with us? Maybe those ones were trained specially for the races

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can't be sure if there were exactly 8 of them tho

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:11 AM

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I dont know... really, I think that mantas are used to following kids

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also, as the world is ruined, wildlife has taken over, so mantas, as well as birds may be just passing by

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:12 AM

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That too I guess

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:13 AM

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and tbh, I dont think mantas would be great racing animals: they are pretty slow and chill being, you know
also, the valley mantas might be too small to ride them, spirits were bigger than sky kids, iDunno tho, thats just my opinion

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maybe they didnt race, but they could just be there and fly through these loops at the temple's door

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but on the other hand, have mantas ever been tamed

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:14 AM

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How else would the spirits have raced in the flying race then?

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:14 AM

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they always seemed free and wild

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:14 AM

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I wouldn't call them wild-

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they're more docile than anything

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lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:15 AM

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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:15 AM

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and tell that to this guy who made laps around the Citadel

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:15 AM

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well then, they could indeed fly on them

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maybe they could be fast enough. I havent really been paying attention

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:16 AM

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I don't either but every time I get dragged for a race those mantas are always just ahead

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:16 AM

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yeah, good point

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:16 AM

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And the ones I normally CR with are the fastest people I know

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:17 AM

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yeah, maybe they could have been racing. and as the ground race could have ended on ice, flying could have ended with flying through loops

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but I dont think that all disciplines were connected with races, or that it was impossible to get there not racing

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so these could have been separate competitions

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:21 AM

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We do see two different venues for the beginning of both races- they just converge at the end, because we always end up in the Stadium

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:23 AM

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yeah, but what I mean to say is that the fact that we can only do races doesnt mean there were more competitions in the past. The season of dreams, where that spirit dreams of preforming on that rink. I dont know yet, If she had to complete races to get there, but I honestly dont think that races were a must If you wanted to take part in some competition

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Its clear to me that there have been some kind of fights, like duels, Valley twins do have tools for them and we see a scene from a duel in vault, so I assume there is more to valley than races

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so the loops and the rink could be connected to them, or no

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:26 AM

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I mean- it's not like I was pointing to that either- I'd imagine that the races were organized events when everyone was still alive

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It'd be kind of weird if it was a requirement to race down the slopes or on mantas if you wanted to get somewhere- every single time

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:27 AM

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indeed

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good thing village solves that issue

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:27 AM

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and there's definitely more to Valley than just races

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And I'm not referring to just the village of Dreams

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The Citadel is kind of that very place- I mentioned before that people were using the Orreries to observe the night sky

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Valley is home to scholars of their own

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At least- if that was the function of those spheres to begin with

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:29 AM

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I mean.. I dont know much about the subject, but I dont know if these loops would be a good thing to observe the sky, like uh... shouldnt they have some symbols or numbers on them to navigate?

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:30 AM

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you know once I thought those things were inefficiently elaborate clocks

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:33 AM

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or these might have been working pretty well, but got broken over the time and idk, their parts has falled deep into the clouds, so there might be some part we're missing and never get to see

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and if these were clocks. Why so many?

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:34 AM

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my first thought that maybe whoever constructed the spheres just wanted to be extra

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given that this is Valley and being extra is just something they do-

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:35 AM

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yeah, but... like that?

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I mean, clock isnt a decoration, and uh... iDunno, I aint buying that

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:36 AM

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if they were willing to make questionable decisions with their horribly inappropriate architecture for the weather then somehow I wouldn't put it past anyone in Valley to go like 'so what if we just- made a clock- and made a lot of them-'

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:37 AM

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yeah, that is indeed a good point

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so you consider the option of these loops being some inefficient clocks

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:38 AM

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that's one of my crackpot conclusions yes

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 8:38 AM

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Citadels are fortress or strongholds that commands and oversees a city according to dictionary, those armillary spheres also looks like some sort of planetary model

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Idk

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:38 AM

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given that it's crackpot I don't wanna go along with that conclusion of mine

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:39 AM

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I mean, I can believe that the one in the middle is actually a model

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but the rest of them...

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maybe they could be just fancy loops, as you said, they like doing things extra, so they might have made a great model of planets in the middle and said: boi, this does look nice

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why dont we use it somehow boi

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the fact that these are above the rink kinda points to the fact that these might have been used in certain competitions

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but these could also be decorations
I dont think these could be functional, because an ice rink might not be the best place to put a clock like that

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and so many

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of them in one place

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 8:41 AM

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Or maybe theyre loops for air races

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:43 AM

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yep, these might be the loops

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hm.. wee need to think if the rink ones are connected with the citadel ones in terms of functionality

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 8:43 AM

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Yep theory concluded. Citadel spheres are loops for air races

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:44 AM

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Wouldn't Valley also kind of be like- a bit of a tourist destination as well

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Citadel looking as extra as it does might have played a hand in that

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:45 AM

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oh yeah, to show off

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but idk.. I understand extra, but this extra seems kinda uh... dumb, useless

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but maybe thats just me

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 8:46 AM

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I dont think its to show off at all

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:46 AM

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like buildings are fine, but to put useless race loops?

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 8:48 AM

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Valley is considered the capital city yes?

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:49 AM

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never heard such thing

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:49 AM

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I wouldn't call it useless so much as it is literally just Valley being a representation of that period of human society where we can say 'hey look at us, we have so much stuff and time to have fun'

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:49 AM

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but it does look rich and important

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 8:49 AM

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Iirc it is considered the capital city

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If not central

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Valley notably unlike the other realms has been hinted at to have some sort of social discrepancy- having rich and poor communities that make up it's structure, and representing something along the lines of the peak of consumerism

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I wouldn't put it past them to do weird and inefficient things just because they can

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Society in a game

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:53 AM

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queen locust Valley notably unlike the other realms has been hinted at to have some sort of s...

I have never once seen a sign of disproportion between rich and poor in valley

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or im blind

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am I ThinkRotate

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Oh- it's a thing that's present in concepts- and we suspect that some of that carried over

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With Season of Dreams coming, it seems more likely than ever

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Its very likely

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:54 AM

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why?

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the village doesnt look like anything special in this regard, does it?

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:55 AM

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Notice how the Village of Dreams notably seems less grand than the rest of Valley

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Doesn't have much gold in it, and is pretty out of the way

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 8:55 AM

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Its also cramped

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:56 AM

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yeah but, does the rest of the valley look like something someone would live in?

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it doesnt seem cozy or warm

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:56 AM

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literally no which is why I keep screaming at its architecture

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:56 AM

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and is village cramped because of the lack of gold? idk

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:56 AM

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lone wigeon and is village cramped because of the lack of gold? idk

what no- I meant that it has less gold AND that it's a lot more cramped

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:56 AM

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so maybe they didnt live there - why would they If they had warm homes

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Idk, it has its own slope, statues...

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gondolas

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doesnt seem like so poor ppl living place

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at least to me

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:58 AM

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i'm gonna keep struggling to explain aren't I-

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 8:58 AM

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sorry stickerGloomy

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 8:58 AM

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nah don't be- you make a lot of good points, is what I meant

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 8:59 AM

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This is far fetched, but i think the season of dream itself hints at this

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Tho its a bunch of wat ifs

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The story of the season seems to be revolving around skater girl

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 9:00 AM

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I mean- the theme of the Season does lead us to believe that the Village itself is less fortunate than the rest of Valley

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Basically a dream to be an athlete, smth like that

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 9:01 AM

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That we're meant to help one girl achieve this dream and that it takes a whole Village is telling of some kind of hardship that the rest of Valley doesn't seem to have

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:01 AM

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And succeed in life

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:02 AM

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iDunno about that, seems far fetched

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:02 AM

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Like i said

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Its basically blindly connecting dots

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 9:03 AM

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i wouldn't call all of the logic we've been using to try and reach that conclusion as blindly connecting dots-

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:03 AM

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I mean i did

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:05 AM

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what are we talking about, I think I got lost, the theory of some hardship in village?

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 9:05 AM

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Uhhhhh Valley in general I think

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:06 AM

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Trying to explain that and relate it to why valley has social seperation between the less fortunate, least thats wat my side is

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:07 AM

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oookay so what do you think about the status of people living in the village

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less fortunate?

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not as priveleged, or how to spell that word...

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 9:08 AM

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I uh- already laid down my specifics as to why I thought that, and it was mostly because of the theme of the Season

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I think we'll be able to get more into that when it finally comes out in live but for now I want to reiterate that because it took a village for this girl's dream to have a chance, it was telling of some kind of hardship

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:11 AM

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to me, for now, the only hardship is to become good at what she wanted to do to get to that uh.. big importand celebration in the most important place in valley. It might just be a story about improving and going up, not really fighting and overcoming some hardship, but yeah, we need to wait for the season to come

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but for now, it just seems to me like a story about climbing up

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not from poverty, just from the start

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but yeah, we cant tell yet

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Either way the spirits are dead

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They got blasted into extinction, regardless of their story

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So theres that pPopcorn

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:15 AM

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this kinda sounds like: whats the point of debating, they are dead anyway, we all gonna die, why do we bother xD
I know u didnt mean that but it could sound like 'depressed' 14yo

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 9:16 AM

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that's... pretty blunt

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:16 AM

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I didnt mean it in any of those, i was memeing pPopcorn

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:17 AM

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and that depressing nickname of yours tsk_thinkthonk

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:19 AM

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Ive been memeing about it 3 times now, same phrase 3 different context

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:19 AM

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xD

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good job, you got your own rolling joke

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:20 AM

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So u dont need to be all that aggressive with the depressed stuff

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:21 AM

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I... wasnt being aggresive.

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:23 AM

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This is pointless argument, so is u pointing out my name as depressing.

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📎 Screenshot_20201217-013846_Sky.jpg

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Have this huggable chonk whale tho

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Hes fluffy

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📎 SKY_20200720_155939_.jpg

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:26 AM

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I uh... doesnt it steal all your light tho.?

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:26 AM

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It doesnt

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It doesnt emit light nor does it.take light

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Its 100% huggable

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And fluffy

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:28 AM

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iDunno man, when my sisted touched it she was left with no energy
kinda sus

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:29 AM

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I got smacked with flying stones when chonk whale blasted through the building and lost all my light too

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I managed to touch em tho before he did

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:30 AM

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fluffy feesh.

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:30 AM

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Yes

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:30 AM

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abzu dood would be happy.

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everyone would

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:31 AM

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A whale guy like myself?

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:31 AM

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6_ThinkingRotate

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maybe

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well, ur a dood, feesh is feesh

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Someone who likes whales, dont take it wrong

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:31 AM

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ah yes

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well, I have met only one person in my life who does not enjoy the company of feesh

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so everyone but that one person is happy

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:33 AM

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Meh

broken basin Dec 18, 2020, 9:37 AM

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queen locust Notice how the Village of Dreams notably seems less grand than the rest of Valle...

Well that's why it's a "village"

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:41 AM

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The term could also be taken by the amount of populus a place has

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Or overall infastructure to be considered one

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:43 AM

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broken basin Well that's why it's a "village"

this makes much more sense to me

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also, If the village is supposed to be a place where less wealthy people would live, were do the rich live? No other place in valley seems like a good spot for it

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so I dont have enough prove

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oh hey Ani

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 9:45 AM

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And the damn architecture of valley buildings.

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:45 AM

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and thats why they couldnt live there

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village seems like the best place to live tbh

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:46 AM

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I mean wasteland have houses aswell

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:46 AM

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houses

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like uh... the broken temple?

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Those ruins outside the first entrance

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Are houses

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:47 AM

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you mean the first area?

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or..

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Prolly

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:48 AM

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well.. they do seem to look like a broken temple, so I wouldnt call these houses

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:48 AM

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I think theyre houses otherwise

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:50 AM

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on the one hand, every building in first area does look like the one called a temple and I dont think that temple would look like any house. But at the same time, to have so many small temples around...

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Why would they have temples around

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:53 AM

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I have no idea, but this one is clearly a temple
why would it be called a temple if it wasnt one

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Why would they be in short distance between each other, or why seperated

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:53 AM

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indeed

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Why wpuld they look sjmilar

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Thats why i call them houses

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:54 AM

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I mean, a temple is supposed to look different than a usual house, you know, more rich and stuff, these are important places

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Wasteland was once part of valley wasnt it.

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So maybe thats where-

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:54 AM

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I.. what?

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:54 AM

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hushed steeple Wasteland was once part of valley wasnt it.

They are connected

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Yes

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:54 AM

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no it wasnt...

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I mean, they are connected, but so is every realm

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:55 AM

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If u compare the large pillars towering around the ruins, ud see them in valley too

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:55 AM

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praire isnt a part of forest, wasteland isnt vault

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but still

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Cities arent built in a linear pattern

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:55 AM

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one pillar in spawn doest prove anything

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Imma reread the doc.

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:56 AM

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I mean if i found bones of trexes here and other people found the similar bones elsewhere, those 2 places couldve been connected even tho theyre seperated now

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Thats a bad example but j hope u get the point

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:57 AM

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I mean, the whole world is connected, but not like that

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Similar designs of infastructure to me, suggests that they are connected

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:57 AM

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or maybe because theye were all full of spirits?

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not like, other species

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imo realms just exist together and are connected but lets not claim that wasteland is valley

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Well imma go take a tour and study the buildings of gw and valley.

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 9:58 AM

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I didnt say wasteland is valley

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Wat i said was theyre connected

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Or related for thay matter

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The 2 cities are the most abundant cities compared to other realms like forest and prairie after all

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 9:59 AM

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tbh I wouldnt even call them cities xD

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:00 AM

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I still hate valley architecture.
It doesnt match the areaaaa bsujdkkeksnznnskalqlkaozoa

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 10:00 AM

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📎 SKY_20201206_083039_.jpg 📎 SKY_20201210_124402_.jpg 📎 SKY_20201215_122533_.jpg 📎 SKY_20201210_124348_.jpg

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:00 AM

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U wouldnt, i would for explaination sake

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 10:00 AM

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I saw we were arguing about the architecture so here's some samples

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:00 AM

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ty

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:00 AM

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i just cant with valley architecture-

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:01 AM

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but I do not recall seeing similar buildings farther in wasteland

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 10:02 AM

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True- the similarities stop after the first area

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But that's mostly attributed to the rest of the space being for industrial use rather than residential

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Factories and possibly docks and such

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:02 AM

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yep

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Btw, I still cant find anything about the arches in Sky. I remember someone pointing out the similarities in the doors, including the gateway to rebirth in orbit.
But i cant find any arch irl that matches so i think its just for design-

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So theres no meaning or anything to it i guess.

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Also, ping me if u need me. Im giving my eyes a break again.

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 10:04 AM

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I've heard the gateway to rebirth resembled a candle but that's about it

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Also bai then Ani

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:04 AM

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well, I do think that realms are connected, but they have always been separate and just existing next to one another. I believe that similarities between them are there because it was the same civilisation there, nothing more.

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Excuse me for pulling the concept card here for a minute, but because there's a chance that some of it carried over in live, I'll say here that GW and Valley MIGHT have been one realm once

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:07 AM

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that is pretty weird since uh.. you know, one is cold and snowy, one is not

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 10:08 AM

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That shouldn't immediately exclude the possibility of it though

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:09 AM

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yeah, you're right, but the vibe is just... so much different

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not even considering the fact that wasteland is broken down

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just its original puropse

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purpose

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:09 AM

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Wasteland have factories all round it, valley doesnt

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Wasteland is on ground level, valley is on a mountain

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:10 AM

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different elders

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 10:10 AM

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why do you think I placed so much emphasis on might

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Now why would u think its the same civilization if u also think theres different elders

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:11 AM

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well, everything speaks against it.. many things do.

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I... ok
so youre telling me that spirits werent one civilisation

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do we as a humanity have one king?

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 10:11 AM

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this might be a cue for me to step away from the conversation-

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:11 AM

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meh.

queen locust Dec 18, 2020, 10:11 AM

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have fun arguing you two

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Ave save me

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:12 AM

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arguing?

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I thought we were talking.

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but ok.

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I guess im arguing. Welp, this isnt a channel for arguing, imma go then, Ave, save Kitsu

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:13 AM

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I mean if other people thinks so aswell, then thats probably the case

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Just because u think or believe on something, doesnt mean thats the same for others, thats why its been hard explaining stuff cus u always say u think smth without explaining why that is

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Like the temple/houses earlier, u think theyre temples u didnt said why

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:16 AM

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I did.

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but thats ok. who crares, no point in dragging it on.

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:17 AM

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U didnt even bother to support that u did explain why u think theyre temples earlier

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But ye

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:17 AM

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ok, lemmie say that again then

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there is a quest about meditation in wasteland sometimes. And sometimes the shrine is located in the first area. Mission says: meditate at the broken temple, so I assume that this building is indeed a temple.
Now, temple is about to be a saint place. It has always been and It was always meant to look different than usual buildings, because it was special and important. Thus I dont think that temple would look like any regular house. But that is just my point

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:24 AM

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lone wigeon I mean, a temple is supposed to look different than a usual house, you know, mor...

Now wat u said and wat i understood here, doesnt match

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:24 AM

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lone wigeon there is a quest about meditation in wasteland sometimes. And sometimes the shri...

This on the other hand explains it better

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:25 AM

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welp, sorry for before then. I tend to overlook things.

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Wat im going with this is, try explaining ur points more clearly

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:25 AM

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ik, ik.

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Now we can dissect ur idea since its clear.to me now

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:26 AM

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but the deal with temple wasnt the thing that almost made you rq

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Wdym rq?

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:27 AM

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rage quit

pale geyser Dec 18, 2020, 10:28 AM

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whats the topic?

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Thats far fetched, u prolly got this idea earlier when i said "ave save me", but nvm

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:28 AM

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we are talking about uh

vast latch Dec 18, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Temples?

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:28 AM

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buildings in valley and wasteland, I think

pale geyser Dec 18, 2020, 10:29 AM

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lone wigeon buildings in valley and wasteland, I think

u think?

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Anyway, the altars we pray on for dailies could be canon but they wouldnt be on random places

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:29 AM

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and what are they

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:29 AM

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What is happening now. Still talking about gw and valley?

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Im not talking about the shrines, im talking about the name of the place they are in

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:30 AM

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So- the shrines-

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:30 AM

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so uh, ani, did u reread the doc?

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Y e s

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 10:30 AM

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found anythijng?

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

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They called valley of triumph, golden valley but thats all i found on this topic.

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Unless u want me to reread every doc.

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Did i kill the chat.

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Happens everytime. stickerGloomy

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:34 AM

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This is wat a temple is according to the dictionary

📎 20201218_183313.jpg

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2: a local lodge of any of various fraternal orders

also: the building housing it

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:42 AM

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Dead chat.

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:43 AM

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Wat im going with this is, praying altars could not be canon in a sense that theyre placed randomly like they are, tgc couldve placed it there and called it an altar because

**a local lodge of any various fraternal orders

also: the building housing it**,

To clarify, they couldve called the broken house a broken temple, because they placed the altar there and considered it that regardless of the lore.

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I type so dang slow the universe could collapse and im still typing

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:44 AM

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I dont take the shrines as part of the lore at all.

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The shrine is probably put there cos its safe-

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:45 AM

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Its not impossible that it is part of the lore aswell tho

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:45 AM

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Ik but i dont take it as part of the lore

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:45 AM

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Just not in the state they are right now

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Tho

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:45 AM

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E

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Soon, our skids will become sim characters.

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:47 AM

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Spirits couldve built it to mourn for their dead, a place of hope, while they inevitably die one by one

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:47 AM

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Disappearing shrine?

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:47 AM

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That i cant argue with

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:48 AM

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Also ur supposed to meditate there- once when i was still partly moff, i legit used the meditate emote there-

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:48 AM

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I was gonna say the spirits also built the shrine after the extinction began and it just started to take them

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:48 AM

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Meditation.

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:49 AM

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frozen pivot Spirits couldve built it to mourn for their dead, a place of hope, while they in...

Now we burn their dead corpses.

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 10:50 AM

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More like free them

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And collect and consume them and spend them to buy our clothes

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 10:51 AM

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B u r n e v e r y t h i n g

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Burn plant.
Burn crab.

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B u r n

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B U R N

livid valley Dec 18, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Burn the whole planet of sky

junior robin Dec 18, 2020, 12:26 PM

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y'all what's the purpose of the elders

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👀 genuine Question

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Either as the realm authority

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Or to guide the sky people to civilization

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Iunno

open locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Guardians?

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Mmm not guardians

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More like leader

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

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B u r n e l d e r s ?

open locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Back when the spirits were alive......Are the elders alive too?

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Ok I don't think they can be burned-

open locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Or they're in spirit form who lives in another dimension?? XDD

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

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open locust Back when the spirits were alive......Are the elders alive too?

They aren't dead rn.

junior robin Dec 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

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ELDERS ARE DED?!!!

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WHA-

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

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They are not dead nor alive

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They are in limbo

open locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

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ooooooh

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Yep

junior robin Dec 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

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I thought they exist outside time and space

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Ye

open locust Dec 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Since the very start? Like from the moment they fell from the skies right?

livid valley Dec 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

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junior robin y'all what's the purpose of the elders

Elders

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 12:30 PM

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B u r n

livid valley Dec 18, 2020, 12:30 PM

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You are obsessed with burning

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 12:30 PM

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open locust Since the very start? Like from the moment they fell from the skies right?

Imo they become limbo state after eden diamond goes yeet

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 12:30 PM

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My skid is obsessed with burning.

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Burn

livid valley Dec 18, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Wow

junior robin Dec 18, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Oof

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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lel

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Anyway, let's talk about doors again.

livid valley Dec 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Doors

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They

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Open

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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What doors

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Because door.

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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or no

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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PepeDoor

junior robin Dec 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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dOoR I'm confused- what door

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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sky_door

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 12:32 PM

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That one time, someone pointed out a similarity in the gateways, arches and doors in Sky.
I need pics to explain but I DONT HAVE ANY ATM.

livid valley Dec 18, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Door is a physical opening object taller than a average human sized being to avoid any head damage. Doors are mostly used as a open way into a closed safe area or unsafe area

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Why did I wrote this

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Its not always taller

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Aight, I killed the chat again. I'll just go-

bitter shale Dec 18, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Tell me

junior robin Dec 18, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Why do we see elders in orbit 👀

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 12:35 PM

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they follow eyes_vibrate

junior robin Dec 18, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Wha- 😶

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 12:35 PM

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yooooooooo

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guys

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imagine

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elders do give us hair in orbit

imagine if every constalation has such place which exists and its spirits are there
actually, no,

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the spirits are there

livid valley Dec 18, 2020, 12:36 PM

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They fly

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Into

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 12:36 PM

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oh my god, orbit is just constalation

livid valley Dec 18, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Space

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 12:39 PM

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why do elders change size when in orbit

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and colors

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and why does vault elder has clothes which look like clothes of elders who came in contact with that fire we carried

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that black and gold

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when this elder didnt have that contact

short owl Dec 18, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Well for the last one, it may have to do with their ancestor followers

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They didn't have contact when WE brought them light, but their ancestors did send them light while in orbit

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 12:51 PM

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ah.. this might be it

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it is also interesting what was the point of carring this fire, what did it do, what happend to it when the twins yeeted it
its probably somewhere in doc's I didnt read

nimble island Dec 18, 2020, 12:57 PM

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what is are the Elders? Are they different from Spirits(Ancestors)? Are Spirits(Ancestors) and Skykids the same species or are they different to?

vast latch Dec 18, 2020, 12:59 PM

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All three of them are different species

nimble island Dec 18, 2020, 12:59 PM

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Why do they look so similar then?

vast latch Dec 18, 2020, 1:04 PM

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We... Don't actually know.

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Spirits, before they die, are probably similar to humans. Elders are godlike creatures that fell from the sky(?). Skykids appeared long after the eden diamond exploded and killed the spirits

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:13 PM

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godlike...

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godlike might be a bit over the top, but they are mighty

vast latch Dec 18, 2020, 1:17 PM

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My headcanon is that the elders are minor deities

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they could be angels

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Or something else

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Elders arent godlike creatures, but theyre portrayed as is, theyre more like guides tho

nimble island Dec 18, 2020, 1:21 PM

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My headcanon is that
-Elders are maybe aliens or deities (something beyond the world of Sky).

Ancestors aka Spirits are the native inhabitants of Sky who maybe worshipped the Elders.
Skykids are magical robot/dolls with the purpose of being the new generation in Sky

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:21 PM

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nimble island what is are the Elders? Are they different from Spirits(Ancestors)? Are Spirits(...

Iirc, theres a doc somewhere confirming that skids and elders are related but not the same

vast latch Dec 18, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Whatever they are they must've been pretty strong for the spirits to make them their leader

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Confirmed by tgc btw

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If u wanna make them as battle gods, prolly they are

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Theyre basically clusters of stars

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Hi wassup.

vast latch Dec 18, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Oh, did you read the moff doc yet?

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:23 PM

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hushed steeple Hi wassup.

said the krill

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Yeee

nimble island Dec 18, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Idk if I believe they are god gods, but I def think they have some kind of power that put the Ancestors in awe od them

nimble island Dec 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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vast latch Oh, did you read the moff doc yet?

No

vast latch Dec 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Wait a minute

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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:(

nimble island Dec 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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where can i find it?

vast latch Dec 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Lore Moff Doc (ESSENTIAL, credits to Bricky)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing

The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing

The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing

Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing

And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :)

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Lmao

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LiNkS

nimble island Dec 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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thank you

vast latch Dec 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Np

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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So, what do we talk about.

vast latch Dec 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Lore chat went sneep

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Oooh thats very interesting stuff

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Elders being bound to the temples, yet not being there

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:27 PM

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oh indeed

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:27 PM

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To me implies that influence and memory plays great roles aswell

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 1:32 PM

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wait, hello???? what is this?????

📎 SKY_20201218_152856_.jpg 📎 SKY_20201218_153025_.jpg

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it looks way too much like the statues in eden to be a coincidence

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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OMG IT REALLY IS A CHILD

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or maybe...

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that prince dood who I dont know who he is?

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Ight reading docs, not knowing i had a theory right is cool

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Thats prolly how the statues in eden came to

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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they do return to the stars in orbit

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we knew they fell in isle from the murals but we never actually like

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saw one

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Iirc, we werent awake yet ages after the kingdom crumbled

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So that couldnt be us skids

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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well uh

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there were generations, right

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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also completely faceless

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Like the statues in eden

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 1:37 PM

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if it was a skid it would at least have hair

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:37 PM

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no no

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there were generations, they could have looked different

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Moth hair, imagine it being guided by ancestors collecting candles

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 1:37 PM

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what?

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there werent generations

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Ight amma read more docs, theres prolly more i got right

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:38 PM

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I heard someone say there were
sky kids (us)
statues beyond the point
statues before the point
of no return ofc

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 1:38 PM

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narrator said "wake up, my child"

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:38 PM

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it is somehow connected to that king I dont know about too.

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 1:38 PM

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there has only been one skid

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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yeah, sure thing
thats why other players are in game

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iDunno man

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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gameplay!=lore

nimble island Dec 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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:0

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imma see more details ingame. i just thought of something

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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remember

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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come back soon

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 1:40 PM

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each person can only light their statues

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eden promotes banding together but in the end only you can revive them

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:42 PM

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hm... kinda... but.. idk, its seems too unreal to me to say that there is only one sky kid

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this might be the case but

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there are many statues, so we couldnt have been the only one, even if we do go with that there was only one kid

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:45 PM

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So wat do u think is the case then?

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Share

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Dont be shy, every theories and ideas are welcome

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:47 PM

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oh wait I have a theory from a friend one sec

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Hi wassup.
-The Krill, 18/12/2020

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:48 PM

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hushed steeple oh wait I have a theory from a friend one sec

Pls do

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:48 PM

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well, it does make sense that there is only one sky kid, but the fact that we can see other players literally everywhere and the the game isnt meant to be played alone makes it so hard to believe that in fact we are alone.
The statues are fallen kids, I assume, so the fact that there are so many proves that we are not the only one
in the end we are the one ascending and stuff but I.. iDunno man, seems kinda unusual to deny the existance of your in-game friends.

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:48 PM

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lone wigeon well, it does make sense that there is only one sky kid, but the fact that we ca...

I played alone when I was a moff.

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:48 PM

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I get that the game has to meet some expectations and its a game, so playing together is intended

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but the existence of others is too real for me to say that I was actually alone

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:50 PM

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People come light my candle when I was a moff.
Me as a moff: nope.

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:50 PM

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I think wat raf meant by 'you' is us being a skid, which is different from the ones in eden

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:50 PM

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why did the spirits/elders try to put winged light in a jar?

📎 image2.png

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Wha-

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:50 PM

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hmmm

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:50 PM

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I don't think-

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I-

scenic hedge Dec 18, 2020, 1:50 PM

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they didn’t

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:50 PM

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yeah, I dont think too, but... this is new and interesting

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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hushed steeple why did the spirits/elders try to put winged light in a jar?

He do be vibin tho

scenic hedge Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Winged light are memories

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plus

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We dumb if the elders controlled shipping

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dunno

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Lol

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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H u h

scenic hedge Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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it was probably the Eden king

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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I'm confused now.

scenic hedge Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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like

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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A misplaced cargo, shouldve been just diamonds but the implant came with jt

scenic hedge Dec 18, 2020, 1:52 PM

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The king of the kingdom would control imports and stuff

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Still can't forget eden elder be like: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Just. I can't forget.

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That theory- i cannot forget this par-

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:53 PM

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The melodic agonized screaming

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Such vocal.chords

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Screaming in agony, but elegantly.

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graceful pain

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:53 PM

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ars moriendi

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Suffering in fashion

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:54 PM

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suffering in style

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Ok heres some random thoughts after ive gained another 0.2 braincell count from reading docs

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Mhm?

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Ok nvm im dum

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 PM

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meh

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Oop

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Ok

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Ok nvm here goes

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 PM

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owo

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Oh-

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:56 PM

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we're gonna debunk xD

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 1:58 PM

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How do u know o_O

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Ok

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Elders could make butterflies from nothing

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Thats it

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 1:59 PM

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noooot really

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Thats it-

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 2:00 PM

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No its just a thought

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From reading docs

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 2:00 PM

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not really. Praire elder made one out of flame. Which would explain that their recharging abilities

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Butterflies die at the hands of people. Smash butterfly.

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Smash smash.

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Bonk the butterfly-

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 2:01 PM

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chill

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Smash

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Remember, elders are basically clusters of stars before they fell, they could prolly compress atoms enough that it explodes in a molecular level and eventually creating fire

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 2:03 PM

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also wrong!

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 2:03 PM

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so its not nothing

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 2:03 PM

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elders were one star

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not a cluster

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Werent they constellations?

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 2:03 PM

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constellations irl have an "alpha" star

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 2:04 PM

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I didnt know that..

mellow sable Dec 18, 2020, 2:04 PM

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the brightest stars are the elders

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 2:05 PM

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I think its still a nice thought of mine thk

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But u have to agree whales are fluffy

📎 Screenshot_20201217-013846_Sky.jpg

rose gorge Dec 18, 2020, 2:06 PM

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whales are indeed fluffi

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Yes

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📎 SKY_20200720_155939_.jpg 📎 SKY_20200720_155936_.jpg

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100% huggable

fading bear Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Omg they should make huge plushies out of them

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 PM

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pSquint

fading bear Dec 18, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I would 100% buy that lol

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 2:09 PM

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U dont squish whale, whale squish u

fading bear Dec 18, 2020, 2:09 PM

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awesome

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 2:10 PM

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With its 100% fluffy huggable whale body

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Ok so, I have a theory which I think I remember some people discussing before-

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So the background music in each realm, do u think it represents how the respective elders are feeling at that moment

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Cos if so

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AAAAAAAAAAAAA

frozen pivot Dec 18, 2020, 2:16 PM

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I mean the elders know each other

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They prolly hang out every sunday and stuff

ripe turret Dec 18, 2020, 2:18 PM

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true

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 2:20 PM

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at that big vault table

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yes

hushed steeple Dec 18, 2020, 2:20 PM

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While we die in eden

lone wigeon Dec 18, 2020, 2:21 PM

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SkyLOL