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Wasteland was, well, a decimated land
Thats why, it's messed there xD
Not only did a war broke out in it, its also where the largest conversion of diamonds took place, proven by the amount of factories in it
Diamonds were made in a very corrupt way btw, infusing light beings into things
Smash manta
Manta shake with a gristle of light butterflies
I need to go. :'(
Mhh yum
Theyre made from light, they dont squish, they go poof
Butterfly go poof
Yes, let the word be known
Nature in Sky be like: 👁️ 👄 👁️
C r u s h c r e a t u r e
H a r v e s t l i g h t f r o m d e a d b o d y
there's darkness plants in almost every realm except for Vault-
Yep
Vault wasnt supposed to be tampered with
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Its a very fragile place, basically sitting between the physical and the ethereal(no other way to put it) realm, hence the 'dream' like phenomena surrounding it
Thats head lore btw
Ye
Lol
Ull learn alot of interesting ideas about the lore in the game even if u just lurk here, thats said, even if ur brain cant keep up, its still interesting to follow through so i encourage reading
Chonk whale is fluffy
mý bŕāıń į§ bůřņț
That also means its being used
Lol
back
morning
||ok goodbye||
That is not nature.
That is the greed of the humanoid beings
No I mean-
Yes, if u dont like fluffy chonk whale, ill find u and force u to hug fluffy whale
Nvm-
I request floofy whale art now
Go find some then-
Whales are already fluffy, u only need to see one pic of it
I would do some myself but idk how to texture 
There is not much of people doing 3d textured of the creatures
So far I've only seen the krill
no I mean texture in general 
And very huggable
Where is the rock at patch note?

I asked it for q n a but they can't help me so just wonder if you guys khow

The rock made a quick visit to their original land, and found a cave filled with ancient memories. They decided to climb to the top for a better view, and saw a heart that had been left for friends to find. Happy to see such kindness, the rock departed for it's home. After returning to Sanctuary, they shared these stories around the campfire and gazed at the stars, wondering 

I'm thinking about playing this game but have some lore doubts: how does the kids have the power flight?is it a magic cape they are given or they are naturally born winged?
N-night time in Prairie??
I accidentally relived the yawning spirit while my friend was leading, I got dragged out of the room and suddenly saw the sky pitch black. After the cutscene ended, it eventually went back to blue..
nighttime prairie is pretty 
terrifying
Thamk megan for my quick fingers I got to take a pic 
I watched the tutorial but there's no explanation at all. That cape/wings suddenly appear of the blue @ripe turret
yes there is you were chosen as one of the sky kids to help destroy eden
so you got a magic cape
Hey you know that rock that moved from Isle to sanc, and temporarily returned to sanc to find a heart in the most recent patch notes? Do you guys think that's actually happening in the game?
You do?!
Can you send a pic? I have yet to see the rock in question, only notes about it
shes friends with the rock!!1!11!
I
Roooock?
why did I read that as rook
hey guys I've come up with a theory
it's a bit strange but I think some of you might like it
so you guys know megan right?
no
No
(megan is the name we gave to mega bird the thing that's in that pic)
she's the 'god' of the sky world or something
No ya dont
so what about Megan?
Theres a mega bird?
she's involved just making sure everyone knows what I'm talking about
Ohhh
:((
so
Sry
it's ok
Do you have proof? I want to believe you🥺
spiilllll, would like to hear
after looking at the megan pic at the end credits cutscene
Oh
.....
I thought you know the Rock
and from a cape with a hook on it
ohhhhhhhhhHHhHhhhHh yeeaaah
Never gonna say goodbye and tell a lie
Cape with a hook?

Wait a sec, oop I messed up the lyrics
yeah the 'beak' or whatever I saw as like a hook
yeeee
I saw a beak
Wait what was the rest I can't tell trying to read between the spam ;-;
and y'all know a skykid has a cape after getting a star
that we are and do bring 'home'
yeee
yep
if you need to use the discord search thing
||this is not a spoiler what did you think we are in lore were it specifically says spoilers||
so that cape as we see doesn't have a hook on it
but in some ways the cape never leaves out back untill the last light is lost
so if your capeless like in the mirror limbo you can see a diamond indent on our back
I think there is a hook on this cape we get and it sticks into that indent and that hook takes hold of our flame
and with our flame megan can get us to do anything she wants with a threat of snuffing us out
(another sub theory of this: cape wearers are megan believers)
but that's just a theory
a sky theory
AANNDD COPYRIGHT
wow you really gon do that to me?
any thoughts?
or am I thinking like a conspiracy theorist?
no idea
does it sound believable or is there something I need to clean up
I know it's a wild take but I hope it sounds good
Can you put spoilers for season here in season chat with spoiler tag?
no only beta channels for beta content
if it's from past seasons then send them in it doesn't matter
is there any images so that i can see ur theory a bit more clearly ?
I should probably get to drawing some stuff lol
but we got this
I'm gonna call this theory MCH theory
Megan
Cape
Hook theory
anyone is allowed to add just make sure it gets to me
unrelated but we can see some of the space cloud we reside in here
we get green blue and some yellow for it
I like space :)
hshdhdhshs im sorry, i just couldn’t get it which cape with the hook that you are trying to tell 🥺
I'm implying that there is a hook idk if there actually is one
that’s not really a question to be asked here
bro it opens in January can you wait?
and if they did get in
it'd be hacking so no
if you want to talk about the season, go to #seasons-events-chat
The king?
Possibly
I just noticed it.
oh ok
But it's most likely the Prince/King (if you consider them 1 person, if seperate then Prince only I guess)
I was wondering if it also could be the Prince, just because he(?) is closer to Sky children.
Perhaps
Oooh, so like... the capeless would be most dangerous to Megan because she can't touch our light when we're capeless?
But then... what's up with shiny boi in eden? Why are they there and capeless?
I just was coming up with it as I was typing null
lol
if you wanna help then please
and yeah capeless are pure chaos in megan's eyes
Maybe Shiny Boi is in Eden Dark Space BECAUSE they're the most dangerous. Megan may have built the spaces out of space and time to try to lure the others back, but the capeless kid at the end of Eden was given nothing to ensure they never had any tools to break free and to try to break their spirit.
...
If this is the case, then it is very likely that we only show up once the kid's spirit is fully broken.
I was kinda thinking the light bois where the spirits of like the high priests of megan
and that's why we have to bring them back
because you know that sub theory about cape wearers being megan believers
they transmute themselves into the cape
and the amount of stars on the back is to tell megan how good we are at our 'job' btw
i just noticed something in the skid constellation
it kinda looks like they're flying into megan's mouth..?
is that the mouth
the highest in the megan religion hierarchy go strait to her
good to know lore chat still calls her megan
or maybe she made for like a "look it's you"
and that's not a head but like a finger or something
talon?
yeah that
but looking at this it SHOULD be her head
Such a great photo....
we don't really know her real expanse but it looks like at least most of a galaxy for that part
eyes for reference
huh?
I see no difference from image to image
zoom in a bit
also
why haven't we talked about the candle at the end of the credits??
who does it belong to???
is it our candle?????
i was thinking it like one of the pan out at the end of the MIB movies
like our whole universe exists in that inside of a much larger one
megan is fire?!?!?
who is Megan?
I would like to inform you of my
Megan
Cape
Hook theory
megabird
it MCH theory
does bricky still have the lore moth doc
so there's a hook that is in the cape that wraps around our flame so megan can control us
Here's my participation in trying to make it easier to identify Megan's appearance
basic rundown of my conspiracy like theory I had earlier
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Yeee
yes
what they did we dunno but the did
it's been a hot minute since I last looked in here
yeah
what to do, what to do...
hallo :DD
I read the doc :>>>
the prince could be in valley? but hmm, he wouldn't be in a realm governed by the elders, he could be in eden? but what would he be doing there
or maybe he's the one that made the krill

i say made because they're not making actual normal creature sounds
if you hear closely when a krill is close you hear mechanical whirring
what do you?
TAKE A SHOT EVERYONE
cool
prince * looks at the element of darkness * "wonder what I can make outa this"
FOR THE KRILL R MACHINES THEORY
I mean he is kinda da eden elder, so it'd make sense he resides there
SADLY IT GOT DEBUNKED BY THE DEVS
dangit I'm out of tea
i'm quite sure that krills were already existing
yeee
Canon lore doc stated that everything r born or smthng
still though
because look in prophecy cave
the squiggles are krill?
dirt
OH WAIT
nahh, there's a krill
bottom right corner
wat
could shadows be like, krill ancestors?
Well, possibly
what even ARE shadows
i think krill have been modified
they existed long before we were created
I think souls of the failed trial runners
hey actually, is there an actual confirmation that the prince/king is the eden elder, or did we all just decide it must be so?
shadows are a form of.. primordial darkness
in the wars
they have no form but immediately kill us
but as a firm believer of "trials aren't real" theory, I'd say shadows doesn't exists.
BUUUTT, that's my opinion
i think they existed ages ago
so maybe shadows of the previous trial runners?
they're in the minds of the prophets and us
perhaps 
oh wait I might be on to something
maybe shadows influenced the krills or something
what if krill used to be creatures of light
hmm
Odd thought, but what if those that die outside of eden aren't actually dead at all, we just stop seeing them because megan doesn't want us to know they're still there and just like... okay
some think they are corrupted whales
you know how cavemen made weird bad drawings of dinosaurs
you mean the spirits?
maybe shdows caused us to fall down to sky in the first place
what if shadows are that?
possibly, I mean I believe they're corrputed since it stated in the canon lore doc everything is from light (I think)
no, I mean just like... normal sky kids who have run out of winged light
no like

the "we have X at home" meme
shadows cause us to fall. then we get bodies of clay
shadows are the krill at home
QUICK DO THE DEAD EMOTE BUG
yes
offbrand krill
wow this chat has livend up
why is my message being delered
you’re probably using a censored term, pika
what
what
when a dev came in and said they hid
eh what are you talking about
worf
hmm
please don’t try to circumvent the filter, words are filtered for a reason
it probably is just the green light
what did they say just before that though
let's not talk about it much though
it doesn’t really matter
manta dung
it doesn't matter in the long run
so are you saying we should call it green light now
but yeah let's drop it
let's talk about the king again
if there's a king and a prince, was there a queen?
yes, let’s talk about the prince/king 
how would the king have a son
so off topic but the manta bones we see on lv 4 of vault I think is a baby version of the elder manta
I don't have anything to back this up just my thoughts
probably not
The king? Last I knew we were talking about how capes were used to control us
i don’t think the prince is the king’s son
i think the prince is the king before being crowned king
spirits are stars right
thanks for believing in my theory 
like that's still a thing

according to the launch livestream, yes
it makes it easy for Megan to be bad so... it got fasttracked
Ok ik y’all want do drop the convo but do you have a source for that?? Seems like a big reach even for tgc
"I have boxes full of megan mind control"
who the— 
eh it’s not important
okay but, I don't think megan would outright be evil
more like
lawful good
get stuff done right at all costs
I'm thinking lawful evil
she's light itself

and light is good in this game
if you believe manta kidnappers are good
but still, mostly good
light is called « loving » by the devs so, yeah, it’s intended to be the « good guys »
The pins are walls of text
useful walls 
like she wants stuff done but she'll have some fun and mess with people along the way
ya know maybe that's more lawful neutral yeah
sorry it's been a while since I've played d&d
not up to date on my alignment meanings
do we even have solid proof megan is still a thing
If you have dyslexia, have you found any ways to combat it to make it easier for you to read?
she is there
in space
she's still dubiously canon

Maybe it's not dyslexia, but a few people in my family have it and my eyes get tired and read words wrong all the time.
what if megan isn't real and we're all just bashing our heads into a big king shaped wall
i’d say it’s not unreasonable to assume she exists, considering the glowing birdlike entity that takes up the entire universe
So.. yeah-
Oh
It's okay it wasn't rude
im still thinking about the candle scene
I'm sorry for you lia
it's megan, but it zooms out to a red candle 
Maybe you can read stuff here and there? Like, read for a bit then take breaks then come back?
yeah! read it in chunks
can this convo be moved to dms
?
yeah
Sure
i didn't wanna say it but this is lore chat
@quick wedge you cool with dms?
anyways
@quick wedge may I drop a link relevant to the dyslexia convo in your dms?
megan is fire?!?!?!?
so megan is in skids?
Megan is certainly ON fire
or megan is skids
theres two main interpretations of the candle scene i can think of:
- red candles are our heart, megan is in our heart
- the universe of sky exists in a flame of a candle
who's megan
megabird
what
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im not a new lore "moff"
... I certainly HOPE there's not TWO of them
sorry
One Megabird is bad enough, but two?!?!
two what? megans? 
well, she’s explained in that doc, that’s why i linked it
what makes you think there’s two all of a sudden ?
"PROBABLY"
well, there are technically two if you count the office megan
what
why wouldn’t those just be two depictions of the same person ?
the mural around the portal to the office
is office girl megan?
that's why I said technically bricky
No, Office character has an actual namme which I forget.
isn't it just skybot?
No, I think it's something that starts with an A...
i don’t think office npc has a name
anyways, this isn’t important to lore
back to the prince and king
no
would they be different entities?
offical girl needs a name
she really doesn't
i think they’re the same person
if you want to name the office girl, this is the wrong chat for you, friend
i think some chat named the office girl
no
it’s unclear, personally i think the prince/king was the first skykid
well what if
I don't remember what it was but it happened at some point ask gen chat probably
my theory is that in canon there's only one skykid
WHAT
we only see one kid get wings in the intro right? and the statues in eden aren't skykids
the statues in eden are the actual wing buffs
the intro cutscene
the intro scene to the game
you seem new to lore chat, skychild
i suggest reading the pins to get an idea of what’s going on, friend
The one you can only see on youtube once you've started playing. Or in Beta if you're in Beta.
i think i know what you're saying
but i think that refers to us
the eden statues have the same general shape as the wl so I assume we're just taking the wl from around the world back to their bodies
O.O WE'RE GOING TO GET A WAY TO REWATCH THE OPENING CUTSCENE?!?!
no ? wl arent stars
They are "the fallen"
theyre imprints of the child of light
confirmed plural :/
you know what I mean
the skid looking entities fly into the megan constellation (?)
or just the stars in general
ok hold on
so uh
weird thing i’d like to make note of here
i was watching the launch livestream for lore tidbits, and the devs referred to the spirits as the fallen that we have to get back to orbit, not the wl/etc
well yeah, I thought we established spirits are stars
they're fallen stars
hence, the fallen
the statues don't have any kind of in canon name
theyre the fallen
when you enter eden, it says « return the light to the fallen » or something like that, my sky is in french
it doesn't
it does
well, it doesn't in english
when you go past pnr, the subtitle is « return the light of the fallen »
in french they’re just called the « dead »
I've never seen the statues be referred to as the fallen
I've seen the statues referred to as the fallen
as have i
hmm
Ye, but I'm in english
The WL were stars in Light Awaits
ah yeah, my bad, it's late so I wasn't remembering correctly
they are indeed called the fallen in the little blurb
i never paid much attention to it
so that means that both spirits and whatever the statues are are fallen stars
which begs the question
what are the statues
i have a theory but tbh it’s more of a headcanon
they're stars clearly, but other than that nothing
they aren't skykids
since we were sent to save them
they perished before skykids were born probably
Hmm... does anyone have a spirit statue pre-relive off hand?
part of me likes to think the king made them it fits into this big thing i’ve been making that would take too long to explain, and would spoiler a project im doing
I just wanted to check how close they were to eden statues
oh
actually
that's a very good point
they DO look a lot alike
also bricky are you gonna pull out a corkboard with a billion strings once you're done
No, just a popcorn bord

anyways here’s a body pre-relive
That's a completely different pose as well
but they were « killed » by the same thing, probably
darkness
it’s the same stone over their body, the same particles too
same particles we get when we die
or that dark crabs get
or is on some krill
and krills
and dark plants
not skids, not spirits
what else is left
they're STARS
but that doesn't really say much
almost every creature in sky is either a star or made of light
Concepts said bones are left behinnd when something dies an "unnatural" death
i.e. doesn't return to megan
but these don't look like bones exactly
they're more like
They look like the being, but... without skin (yes, that sounds like bones, but)
i’d stay but it’s time to go for me, cya 
yeah same lol
Abestos is a questionable choice for wall insulation
You're probably thinking about Pompeii?
PLASTER
that
they look like plaster
and yeah pompeii
it's very late my brain doesn't work properly
Perhaps the statues are disconnected cores. Without connection, there's not anything to push someone to keep gong, nor would there be any guidance.
In Eden, you keep going no mater what. But for most ancestors, they may have 'died' i.e. got stuck, giving up
reminder that the statues also don't have any semblance of a cape, the one they get after doesn't count because we gave them the wl
so really, just what exactly are they?
oh man it's super duper ultra late
gn ^^
scared maybe?
wdym scared
I mean maybe the statues are scared of being there and alone forever.
Maybe that's the real truth about capes - no one flies on their own
hm
You have to have Another to fly
would make sense considering the whole concept of sky
thank for the wholesome
wait! that's probably why spirits couldn't fly!
capes ment they where married or something?
I was thinking more like you had to have another being as a literal part of you in order to fly
not really married, moreso they "earned" their capes
and they couldn't fly period because they lost the "something" inside them
their link to megan
since they ARE flying in the ending
once we reconnect them
that probably is the case
in order to fly you need a link to megan
so that means the krill also may have a link to her?
I'll let you guys think about that
i gotta sleep now lol
see ya
What about the Wing Buffs from last night? Could they have used those to fly?
Or at least flap like once
Because last night Kitsuu came up with a theory about why the Wing Buffs function like Winged Lights, and it's because of their connection with the Prince- rather than Megan
of course that's assuming that Winged Lights are memories of the Prince
As for the disconnected thing- because you needed to Ascend them to get those Wing Buffs, maybe they'd lost faith in the Prince at some point
They could easily have been a connection to both
A link to Megan through the prince
who lost his own link to Megan and the others because he wasn't really living with the others the way he should have been, but rather kept away in the gilded prison of leadership
Fair point- and the Prince was probably sent by Megan herself in that sense
I made a meme about the krill thing as I’ve accepted it but still don’t know how to feel: #sky-memes message
ye that is a non-sequitur but just
It's listed in the lore moff doc, unfortunately i don't have the link
i searched it up in this channel and just copy pasted it 
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
i can never remember the names off the top of my head 
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hmm.. any theories about home? i find it interesting that we can just.. meditate and teleport there at any time
speaking of that ... what if we’re actually astro projecting to elder’s places to play cutscenes ie our physical body isnt there
this could b why we’re always sitting in front of the shrine post cutscene
ok bye
So umm guys.
Did the skating elder got jealous...and...
Figure took from #news and ingame
Skating elder-?
I would highly recommend everyone relive the Backflipping Champion spirit memory (which is now located in the Citadel) if you haven't done so already 
I still need to update sky oop-
oo
back
I kinda wonder if the valley elders do all forms of sports
the twins are athletes, it wouldn’t be surprising if they did winter sports
I do ice-skating- i guess i have to learn it in Sky now too
ice skating in sky is just s p e e n
N y o o m
Wait did the new season started already?
Lol cool
Basically valley has been updated but you can't go to the new locations yet
Yes
Unless u oob
Manta skateboard go nyooom
Theres no actual writing found in the game other than vault elder's headpiece right?
well, kind of
Why ?
Oh wait
there’s writing on the bells, the symbols on the archive boxes are confirmed to have some sort of meaning, and there’s what could be considered writing in the vault mural in the all-elders cutscene
You mean at the cutscene of the vault?
I found one in the caves
It also comes with an image
Which looks like a tiny soldier killing an elder
Oh lol
Huh ?
Goddang i thought i found smth
we’ve had people coming here since prophecy started testing (that’s when the bug showed up) with that thing
XD
Do any of tree in forests have any leaves
Thats a pretty weird bug
They all dead maybe because of the rain
Or maybe they still alive because they are special
Like why does it look like that
I'm late but this reaction is such a mood
if you let me dm you, i can explain if you’d like
Bruh theres a wall of text just for that misleading bug?
I keep forgetting what those are called (not whales)
Wat
I'm wondering why we see a skykid stabed by a little soldier in the Isle of sanctuary
they are « whales » but technically theyre coelacanths
Coelacanths
we don’t, it’s a bug
I think they explained two seconds ago that it was a bug
it’s likely low-priority, if it’s not game breaking they won’t stress abt it as much as other things (season of dreams, valley updates, spirit updates, etc.,)
I mean maybe but it's probably low prio- oh brick got it

Maybe, but it confus about story sometimes
just ignore it
Things that cause problems or actual confusion are more likely to be fixed
Hope newbie understand that xd
I just found it randomly whilst collecting my wl, thought it had smth major
Things that are quickly identified as bugs that have little impact... Not so much
So...hm..where the stabed kid could be from if it's a bug..
Probably of a crab drawing ?
it’s from the prophecy murals
XD
A prophecy mural in sanct?
Strange
the « kid » is the kid in the centre of this mural:
Ah
Thats the first time ive seen that

So not a prophecy but an actual depiction
i don’t think this is predicting the future considering it shows us the creation of the eden castle, eden beam, etc.,
as well as the coronation of the prince/king
So maybe predicting the past's future
But we still need to beware
So it probably isn't over
Prediction can't be about the past
We need to see old thing for to know about the past
Prophecy only give us some teaser of how was the past and what should gonna be the futur
Hey... You know how we jump and spin when we deep call?
Yea ?
Don't we enter into a position similar to the prince's in the mural during the call?
Idk
That may suggest that the prince never rose at all. He may always have just been calling
please delete that, as it was obtained illegitimately. we aren’t supposed to be in the new area yet
Rose ?
Rose, ascended, flew, ect
If he was always just calling all the creatures and the ancestors to Eden, maybe he never spoke to the living after the calls started
Today.. I have learned that the vault building wears a big party/santa hat
Lol
Thats prolly just an implication that vault could directly take u to the elder's realm
Or connect u to it rather
Take a few steps into the future and someone claims to be able to speak to this kid. They make a mess of everything and everyone dies, causing the prince to have significantly fewer oportunities to speak with the dead either
Are u saying that the prophecies are whack?
We come along and are the first souls since the storm that the prince has been able to reach,
Wait what's the lore for today?
Nah, just sayinf the prophecy could have been about him calling all beings into the cycle rather than ascending and becoming king
None
I cant make sense of it
If ever, its prolly mega bird who'll be calling out to all beings
It's cute, also is the Mushroom Kingdom a spoiler thing or nay?
...the what ?
i’m in beta, there’s nothing about a « mushroom kingdom » anywhere 
It's a small ring of mushrooms or flowers that appears in praries, it comes and goes in certain areas
Right Fairy rings!
Is it spoiler worthy or na
no
Thanks, speaking of the new light system, does that mean our kids actually have sleep schedule ha!
Fair enough, my kid is trying to figure out what flavor each candle is
Looking at the candles they seem traditionally made, basic wax but I have yet to see a wax maker spirit
man I saw we were arguing about when Prophecy took place again-
or who Prophecy's about-
I think it's a past event, where something went wrong with the Prince's arrivel
i firmly believe that Prophecy is a prophecy that has already been fulfilled
no King until the end of the murals at least
technically- most likely-
and MAYBE the wax comes from dark plants
It's our only natural source of wax after all
That doesn't come from lit candles
I think the event depicted is ment to be eden's creation maybe? Or maybe the prince was sending people away from eden before the storm hit
Welll
They seem
I mean- we are setting them on fire easily enough
Kinda oily
plus they have an oily sheen
They do appear to be, how ever making wax from something that burns so easily seems like a bad idea
did you guys read the news? 
so skids does can feel tired
I mean they feel pain
technically you only really need wax, animal fats, and oils to make candles
So not necessarily beeswax
They flinch
fear in eden too
Plus visible pain- also in Eden
Eden singing is awsome tho,
basically eden is where our skid mostly show their emotion
When giving WL to the Fallen, the skids clutch at their chests
wooooo woooooo waoooo
Or when touching something, they love touching rocks and crabs
It's like they pluck it from their hearts
But the potential of a beekeeper outfit for Skychildren is even better
bro even beeswax was expensive for the earliest forms of candlemaking akjakjakjsk
where is Candlemaker's budget I need to see it
but apparently you can make candles out of soy sauce
Also, was it bartering or did they have a currancy?
????????
wait no sorry- soy BEAN
The spirits I mean
They seem to have an economy or community of sortys
Or was it always candles?
ditto to that-
I mean, maybe, look at Ark
Or maybe they performed different services as payment
They must have had something
i'm just picturing the merchants running on a minecraft villager economy
Heck we don't really see them 'pay' per se
For anything really
Either A currancy or trade
We "offer"
screw drawing today this is much more interesting-
It's also much less likely to be wax
Candles I think really did just serve a domestic and maybe even industrial purpose to them- because you can see that they use it for shrines and such
Yes that that
And the Twins somehow fashioned the races around someone lighting up like 4 candles in a mostly empty hall
Candles were significant for sure in pre-eden society
Perhaps they themselves payed tribute to soemthing
My friend said they were like.. offerings to the Elders/megabird??
Elders, most likely-
I'm not sure that the Ancestors are even aware of Megan's existence
hi
MJJJJJJJJJJ HIII <333333333
Elders, or my head cannon of them, were the makers of each area, so I can totally see it being tributes to them.
candle symbolize
"The candle symbolizes light in the darkness of life especially individual life, illlumination; it is the symbol of holy illumination of the spirit of truth. Lit in times of death, they signify the light in the next world"
Wax is like.. the essence of light creatures
I've seen it a few times but what/who is megabird?
a giant birds in sky
jk
I don't think you'd want to pay with your insides 
You know that giant lump of light in the end credits
Canon Lore confirmed by TGC
This is everything we know for certain about Sky, nearly everything else is conjecture.
If there’s anything I’m missing ping me and I can add it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE
Credit to @Mochi-daifuku for help with the Japanese livestreams
That's vaguely shaped like a bird
Oooh
I thought that was called "Mother Light" I can see taht now
Also because of the amazing Vocalist who sings during orbit
So I assumed it was the light singing to bring the light to her
/them
The lit candle flame represents the light of the teachings and is symbolic of the state of Enlightenment. However, the flame can also represent the impermanence of form. In this way, candles are a bridge between both realities – they are of the realm of form, yet also in touch with the infinite, ever-renewing compassion from which all forms arise
this thing right here is Megan-
what do you think these symbols mean
Is there anyone here who hasn't seen the lore moff doc 
the whAt
Lore Moff Doc (ESSENTIAL, credits to Bricky)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing
The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :)
oh
DANG IT
the general lore docs?
Haha

mostly just to get a feel for things-

also I think those symbols are for classification??? maybe??
For different types of information
idk Archives weird
haha what if the spirits died during the trials-
Also.. Vault building party hat
indeed
That's all thamk u
considering context and how those students probably aren't the same spirits yeah probably-
Shoot
Then I'm lost-
maybe the vault elder just wanted to trademark the archives
Vault Elder: dead birds do not eat
btw thanks for asking for me I don’t have the guts
summon the shark
summon Jaws
krills
you know how frustrating it is that it keeps reminding me of this thing
It's the symbol in our chests too
the thing is, i got that picture when i arleady open the eden door
not really, they changed it
I got to the top from outside lmao
Oh
I read that wrong lmao
I wounder if the four diamonds were ment to be the elements we 'discorved' during the trials, or rather other way around.
oh yeahhh the four diamonds = four elements!
Vault party hat 
looks like a very big microphone tbh-
Vault had to be constructed- we can see that much in Prophecy- so just MAYBE it does represent the Elements-
And the prophets were trying to get the people to not bring them together
It's just getting ready for the festivities shush
And maybe they resemble the Belonging symbol too because of that
But someone maybe a leader or Userper
The four elements 'belonging' together
Kinda did a messy wessy
the belonging spirits are probably the only known spirits that are an actual family
belonging mom... we see her in Dream teaser right
What about the Eden's Red Diamond? Is that the result of the Diamonds being together? Is it a diamond? Is it Rob from accounting?
or are we talking another spirit idk-
Diamonds
Diamonds everywhere
he’s from accounting
i dont think thats her
the teaser spirit had a different mask and clothes
The 4 diamond symbol was said to represent a lOT or different things but the belonging one isn’t one of them
The devs said it was a coincidence that it resembled some of the in game symbols but it really supposed to represent the belonging theme of a family coming together, a chain 
but same hair tho
That's cute
we said that about the students too though and we know THOSE are different people-
what are they trying to chain together tho hmmmm(referring to the weird diamonds)
@undone harbor beta stays in beta channels always

family chain
only family?
Yes
So the students of the Prophets, did they become regular citizens?
lets talk about the patch update notes
Symbolism isn’t made to be clear, it’s jus the overall meaning of family coming together
A chain

whats all this about a rock moving to lands-
I know
Just saying two of those moms are different
(Sorry for summoning you tho ;-;))
you know that one rock from the other batch of patch notes
The power diamond thing ur referring to is a totally different topic
The one that wanted to see the jellies in their natural habitat
Okay the rock might be our dad
And the 4 diamond symbol also.....represents the king motif design
But that’s also another topic
Patch notes is a weird place
i think... birds are something important for Valley resident.
Rhythm lads wear outfit based on birds... idk about Dreams, but maybe we can assume bird is a very important symbolism for Valley people.
They're just fulfilling their dream, let them be
Same boop
Yeah...
Mantas... they are used as something else...
why-
Got bored so I decided to drop here 
Jars too, jars seem valuable aswell, you see them every where
we were struggling for a topic for two days straight
mantas are used as attraction in valley??? 
Jars I think were meant more for Prairie
Oh it's a rock from isle who got moved somewhere in Sanctuary Islands pre-prophecy
I do that all the time 
rock lore

The rock is just a dev who's sneaking into the game teehee
no like i was thinking the mantas held something mor eimportant for Valley, not only as attraction or riding :(
"flying race"
We can't rlly ride the ones in the valley can we?
MANTA RACE
ye
They just.. fly with us
last i checked the spirits cant fly-

