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Maybe it was an illusion of an illusion.
But there is no fire. When actual flames are involved we recharge
So I don't think that color symbolism has anything to do with Eden.
You can't can't see what you can't see because you can't see. Then is must be true because it isn't false.
I blame the bird now. Eden clearly happened AFTER shiny boi lit the beacon. If Megan allowed the prince only an illusion of being with the people who raised them...
Clearly
the way i see it, eden is probably rather warm in its current iteration but in a nuclear sense
like a nuclear reactor melting down
it’s toxic and unnatural, that’s why it kills us despite being warm
Hmm, interesting. Please elaborate
You know that empty feeling you get inside when you are in a crowd or a party but you just... Kinda feel alone anyway?
Imagine that party was set up by a god who has already pretty much forsaken all the other guests already but is still hand picking the stuffiest, least compatible, status driven [beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep] for you to socialize with because the god is status driven herself
From the outside, this looks like a nice place to be. Plenty of people, ties to every part of the kingdom, Yay!
From the inside? Yuch
I dont know if yall answered this already, But i was thinking if the same light sniffing material in the fire trial is the same thing that Eden is made of?
are you saying the twins are stuckups 
I'm sorry can you back up and tell me what "light sniffing material" you are talking about
Brick: I mean they might be, or they might just be not around all that much on account of they have a part of a kingdom to run
Lol my bad snuffing not sniffing lol
Sniff light?
Like the same materials that extinguishes light in the trial of fire
I thought that was just pure shadow
Nevermind... I'll just look back and what you guys said.
So, what's the topic now?
backreading this channel = brain not acquired
Mostly about the Prince/King

Since they already release the next season's pendant
Anyone have any guesses why there are 3 stars on this pendant
It’s most likely a building we will see when the season comes out

maybe its like the tower things on top of the eden gate at hs
the seasonal building might have three of those, I have no idea tbh
it looks a lot like a church almost?
hmm, its similar to the broken temple if it wasnt broken in either wasteland or praire
yea, it does look like a church
BRICK ARE YOU BETA POPCORN EATING AGAIN
Does the off-season guide canonicly have like a twin or something, because they're at the boat at home and also giving out quests 10 feet to the right 
hmm
I don't think that's a lore thing, I think it's just that they used the same base model for both lol. But they could be twins I guess 
Twins yes please
Kinda that spirit is there just to temporarily sell items.
whats lore?
Hey guys i might make a sky iceberg thing, @ me with any theories or interesting lore tidbits
Any story about the krills?
they dont know jack about krills lol
we got theories
that's about it
Can know about dem theories?
lots of people have there own
I have my own as well
Which type of theory do you want? I have some where darkness and light are intrinsically connected to emotion, and some where Darkness and light just kind of are, but the environment has changed since the early days
there’s actually a document of theories in the pins, if you want to check it out ! Sometimes lore chat can be a bit slow, so reading the document to pass the time can be rather nice
hello there! I'll soon post some of my lore for a fan-made season I've created, I'd love to hear your opinions 
Season of Wisdom
6 spirit fan-made season (located in the Vault)
Lore: During the golden era of civilization, there existed 6 scholars each specializing in collecting wisdom from the realms and interpreting the secrets of the lands, residing in a side-tower of the Vault. They were gifted with the trait of immortality, so that they could preserve the essence of the world as it was undergoing numerous alterations with the passage of time. They intended to maintain the initial form of the realms, before industrialization and population growth, in idyllic "visions" that they created and embellished with more details that they uncovered as the years passed. However, when the great catastrophe from Eden befell the realms of Sky, their visions were shattered and began to fade, as the scholars were heavily wounded and succumbed to their injuries one by one. Their tower was secluded and inaccessible from the Vault because of shards that had demolished the bridge connecting the tower to the main structure, thus they were also unable to receive supplies etc. After all these years, we are finally called to restore the tower and complete the visions that have now almost disappeared (the scholars cannot maintain them for long in their spirit form)
this is just the lore, posting other details such as cosmetics etc. could be considered inapt for this channel
I LOVE THAT
Seasonal and lore are sneeping
anyone has the tst theory, lmao
wdym ?
oooh sky iceberg
I reaaaally want to know what would be considered "abyssal" sky theories
I mean- depends on what 'abyssal' means in your context
Does abyssal mean really big holes, gigantic plot holes, or just dark as hell
yes
shoot I dunno of any holes or if there's significant plot holes, but most of the theories concerning the manta juicer and the death-rebirth cycle are pretty dark
maybe even the biology of Ancestors
or skids and how it's possible we're little golems programmed with only base empathy
I guess if you're gunning for mysterious there's Vault
ayy
specifically- the contents of Archives
what would have been considered forbidden knowledge by the Elders?
true true
could be information about orbit
I don't recall any spirit made murals about orbit, so my guess is that they didn't know about it
Or about the construction of sky kids, because there's some hints that the Elders did know they were coming at one point
Knowing about Orbit would warrant knowing about sky kids- or the origins of the Elders
« The new area (Archive) was a highly restricted area. No one should enter. »
« As the restricted area decayed over time, an entrance appeared. There are knowledge/projection lanterns, sealed inside the large cubes. »
-Japanese Livestream 3
There's also these two quotes- that say that the lanterns really do project things- but what has me curious is the entrance to Archives that appeared after so long when it'd decayed
The only spirit we know of that's been in there for certain is the Wise Grandparent from Belonging- and I can't tell if that was before or after Vault was reduced to such a ruined state
hmm, I've never seen that spirit memory so I'm not sure
uhh i know this is sky lore but all this "over" thinking reminds me of darksouls lore
I always assumed it was the history of the stars before the fell; sky prehistory, if you will
Maybe they wanted to cover up their mistakes
or d a r k s e c r e t s
or how the krills were made / where they came from rather than eden i personally think that they were not originally from eden they just thought it was a suiting environment for them
free food every week
and forbidden cherrey pop rocks
f o r b i d d e n p o p r o c k s
Y E S
I can't really imagine that the history would be covered up by the Elders, because much of the history of the Kingdom looks to be on display
yes i dont think its the stars but they are hiding somthing
Of course that's if we're to assume that each level we see going up Vault was representative of the different realms
If that information was public access, and those FROM those realms were to encounter that knowledge, they wouldn't bat an eye at the information
Vault at that point may be a dream of some kind but we can assume that the information itself was accesible- unlike that of Archives
I have a question about the revamped 'come' spirit, if.. it is the "first" skykid, it came when the spirits still "alive"
So why that skykid fell? If everything was "ok"?
Ohhhh Stargazer's memory- we have a few theories on that specific ski
oOh
And that that specific skid wasn't a skid at all
We didn't came after everything got down?
Or at least not just any skid
Some theories actually believe that skid was the Prince
Way before there was ever anything wrong with the Kingdom
I personally aprove the eden explosion theory, and acording with it.... the kids came from the skies to fix the corruption that the explosion made, I'am wrong?
No, you're right
There wouldn't be much of a reason for skids to exist without that eden disaster
I've heard some, but then the prince would be EXACTLY same as a kid, maybe chibi
And i don't think so
ignore me but im gonna counteract whatever you guys say and sometimes i might have a poin
Chibi is a stretch, but in some concepts, the Prince is presented as a figure that closely resembled a skid
And I mean- you're free to counteract
We aren't going to ignore u 
what would be the point of ignoring something potentially logical
Though I will say that assuming that the cutscene took place in around the origin of the Sky Kingdom is just one of many assumptions- it could be close to the end for all we know
And because this IS Isle and it's relatively far from Eden, it could very well be one of the last safe places in the Kingdom
Yeah, i talk about the size, i compared it with my kid (chibi size) and perhaps they are similar, maybe kids were victims of evolution too, many people said that it would be the first kid! Maybe the first kids were smol as chibis, with the time, some adapted and growed up, but some stills chibi
So there's room to assume that the skid that fell in the cutscene is indeed a modern skid
judging by what I see in the concepts the size of the price seems like the size of a base moth when you start
Quick question, why do you consider them victims of evolution?
Victims of circumstance, maybe- but certainly not evolution considering skids aren't really shown to be able to grow
Aside from growth and resize potions anyway
also due to the body type I see from the most commonly looked at concepts
Well, i don't know if the devs wanted to make the resize a mechanic or some kind of lore-logical thing 
Resize and growth, I'll consider artificial means of growth
Certainly not natural
But otherwise, it's a game mechanic
it is called a resize spell obviously not a natural occurrence
I mean, with game mechanic i refer to something that nothing means to lore, for example, the point that we sit in white circles on the floor
Thus my concerns about them being victims of evolutions
Nvm the other :)
I mean- the meditation means something, we believe
Not entirely a game mechanic
Meditation in this case, I believe is synonymous with prayers
Not the meditation, the white circles, aren't nothing for lore... right
?
resize potions are gifted why are they handed out what do the spirits think it has use to us
I mean sure- but I was asking about why you consider them victims of evolution
Gifted?
5 candles aren't anything for u?
I don't consider them, was just a quick supposition
you know I don't think I'm cut out to talk about the evolutionary downfall of beings that seem like there made out of a sort of clay and fire
they are a spirit gift but not free but why would they sell them?
We don't really get the spirit gift for free either you know
We get spells at random for like 5 candles
And why wouldn't you provide an alternative for an unreliable source of spells?
i know but why are resize potions given what use do the spirits think they would be?
I'm not talking about the spirits themselves being unreliable- rather- how randomly it's been gven
I can imagine they'd think it was useful to get to some hard-to-reach places, or reach further
oh haha
You know how when you cast huge spells, you're able to burn plants easier
Me back
Back to that first skid thing however- I still believe that it might be the Prince
But due to how iffy the timeline is when it comes to putting together events- it's also possible that it really is just a skid
tbh i think the prince is an elder, and rather we were created in his image
It could just be a skid (we are referring to the new isle cutscene yea?)
which has some interesting implications, as a large number or lore people believed skykids came to be long after all the spirits went extinct
but here is one found by an ancestor when they were alive
even that's kind of uncertain considering it seems like generations of them were sent down- cue the Fallen in Eden
If we stretch it out, it's not impossible for a skid to have existed right as civilization was on it's last leg
I mean whos to say that that particular spirit didn't survive the initial eden event
Because by then, we're sure that disaster has already struck
Taking into consideration the fact that prior to the update, every spirit in Isle was a traveler of some kind
Pilgrim, Migrant, Voyager
They're either not native to Isle, or even the Kingdom- but have a chance to have survived the event
For me, the kid in the Come cutscene is the first kid, it appeared in Isle of Dawn. Maybe, the one who introduced us in the first cutscene (pins) known that something will happen, AND maybe that is due to prophets! (Maybe who introduced us is Daleth)
Then Daleth tried with the first kid, and S/he noticed that we'll need a homespace, and made home :)
I explained good?
I don't think their job was ever to stop the disaster
shoot, i didnt copy ma message
So you believe that the skid is indeed a skid, but not the Prince?
Because you mentioned the Prophets I'm inclined to believe that it's still the Prince
Maybe the first kid IS the prince? 
And I don't believe that Homespace is that integral to lore
that's what I've been trying to say I'm-
Homespace is mostly just a game mechanic
Well, it means another thing, the prince is the first kid? 
but that's only based on resemblance yes? which is why I believe skykids were made in the prince's image
I'm not gonna claim the Prince IS a
skid- just that he closely resembled one
Very good worked game mechanic, for my opinion
I mean- you don't really have to force yourself to speak Kreb
Or maybe the kids resembled the prince
as Ri has been saying all this time yes- I agree that skids resemble the Prince
I know it's not good to use old concepts BUT in the old concept art of the prince, he has the elder's color pallet, which may imply he is of the elder species
I am Ri, Res is someone else 
all good
Sorry, most of the things being said here i don't understamd them 😅
Where did we lose you- we'll pick up from there
Hearing Sky's BGM music while you discuss about lore here, really mades a nice ambient
t
Ah shoot Imma leave that to Ri tho I need to go clean up and do some chores-
what I'm saying is in the concept art of the prince since the prince shares the same color pallet as the rest of the elders, that may support that he is an elder rather than a skid
Have fun loring ya'll
alrifhty I will try to explain from the beggining
ooh byeeee
so two theories:
A. prince is THE first skykid
or
B. the prince is an elder, and we were made to resemble him
the prince (also the king, also the eden elder) is implied to have existed in canon sky, he is seen in many statues and the final vault mural
they exist we don't know where or when but they do indeed exist
he's gone now "the eden elder isn't around to be saved anymore"
and as reika said (probably joking but I dont take a n y t h i n g here lightly)
"he's moved to mario world now"
y'know what eden and mario world have in common?
p i p e s
hi and welcome to Ri's late night conspiracy theories, in this essay I wi
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Here’s (kinda) confirmation of the prince
Hi whats the topic toda-
p i pe s
P i p e s ?
p i p e s
me looking in the eden pipes like "helloooooo prince? are you in there??"
L o l
Speaking of Mario World, in Super Mario World there’s a special world of secret levels. It takes place way up in the sky, on a giant star.
When you finish Eden, you are also sent to a secret land in the stars.

You should take things more lightly lol
But legally they can’t connect sky with Mario... sometimes the devs just want to mess with us
I am a overthinker I will overthink
We will connect these dots even if there is no logic to connect them with 
oh I don't mean he's literally in mario world, I just mean he's in the pi p e s
P i p e s

leave no pipe unturned
Check all p i p e
we need p i p e s
me in the pipes @ the prince like "pspspspspsps"
You guys remember those strange noises in eden pipes?
Yeha maybe the prince hiding in there
A wild kokichi has appeared
And he's back to twist/bless everyone's minds and theories
Ok now give me your theories i shall bless them
Anyone can send the concept art of the prince and king
i come back from a lengthy break to see Mario!Prenc
Prenc istg if you don't come out going 'wa-hoo' imma sue
And suddenly I understand why so many think its a mech suit
with him literally standing in the hole of the mask like a controller
:)
I'm just gonna say something I can search for later when you post those, brick. Maybe "BrickPics"?
correct me if I’m wrong but I think I just found out the singing voice in eden is called the “cloud messenger” if that has any significance
Is it just me... or does that sound like some kind of god....... “cloud messenger”
If we're talking gods- isn't that Hermes-
Hermes? A god associated with trade, wealth, luck, thieves, travel... and is a messenger?
:)
Eden didn’t always look like what it is now
Judging from the name at least it used to be some kind of paradise on earth
But what does that have to do with the Olympian psychopomp-
do you guys think the story of eden & forbidden fruit is related to what happen in sky 
hermes is the greek god of trade, theives, languages, and multiple other things. He's said to have mischevious and clever nature, as well as, he's the messenger of the gods 
Thank you, I have been wondering that a long time
wait they have robot arms?
why is he so big?
the elders are also quite big so 
but hes way bigger than them lol
i also noticed he's holding a trident, is that significant at all?
a trident is usually depicted with the sea, since its the weapon of the greek sea god, Poseidon
but here, I'm not sure, since the King doesnt seem to have any relation to water/seas/oceans
maybe its a nod to abzu lol
also kinda like a pitchfork, which is the weapon of, well, ykno
oooh it might be a weapnized pitchfork, thats a good idea 
and if you look underneath the mountain in that one pic, you can see early versions of krill swimming beneath him
looks more like a whale I think 
how do we know whether it only has one eye, since the picture doesnt show the full part of its face
as in we cant see the other side of it 
yea ur right lol, i was looking from the top, but its totally possible its swimming sideways
at the top of that concept art it says:
Aging/Death - All is lost, Nadir,
Atonement with the father
hopefully this can be read
<<the lowest point in the fortunes of a person or organization.
"they had reached the nadir of their sufferings"
synonyms:
the lowest point · the all-time low · the lowest level · low-water mark · the bottom · as low as one can get · rock-bottom · the depths · zero · the pits
astronomy
the point on the celestial sphere directly below an observer. The opposite of zenith.>> -is what Google apparently says about the word Nadir
Considering the context of the game it works with both definitions-
eden is probably "the lowest part" of the sky civilization. As in, its that messed up and its the worst part
It's ironic to me that it was once the Zenith
but what does "atonement with the father" mean 
Eden as far as we can tell is the highest point of the Kingdom- it's 'zenith'
ah thats interesting
like its the highest point in the Kingdom, yet its the worst part
And atonement with the father refers to an old concept where iirc you have a battle with the corrupted King
like sky kids battling the king?
And if I remember right you were supposed to be breaking the Prince out from somewhere, and when the stage ends you fly up to Orbit
smthn like this ye
It had you dodging spears and debri thrown at you by the mad king
Clearly we don't see the boss battle carry over but the debri flying at you stayed
Would it be ok if I asked a few questions, mostly just verification for things I remember hearing but can’t remember the source?
As long as they pertain to lore, ask as many questions as you like!
I think I remember tgc mentioning this was only the first chapter in the world lore?
That was stated in a livestream once, I think
Thanks
And also that once you finish a constellation you essentially do what the person in the beginning told you too, sent that elder home

sky sequel ft. shattering dangerous freakin' diamonds
I not sure if I made that up a long time ago and ran with it, or if I actually heard it somewhere
And finishing constellations is indeed what we consider bringing an Elder home-
Thank
Also do you know if tgc has any plans of making a cutscene for once you’ve sent everyone home?
Hmm not sure about that one
now that we don't really know of-
I have a friend who completed all constellation
And they didnt say anything special happen
But i do wish they would made a cutscene for it
And iirc
Mostly just some closure or maybe hints at what’s to come would be nice
Specially seeing how long it takes without money
We do have like 2 years of planned content coming-
And iirc i heard jenova already confirmed there will be second elder item
I wish it would be their suit tbh
nice nice nice
I wnat to be dressed like Teth
Does that mean I can finally steal Wasteland Elder's spear
Good point
I want to stab krill
No violence fam-
dang- I'll take a shield-
it would be pretty satisfying tbh
I suppose maybe even some sort of change to the world, seeing as the elders are gone, if that would have any impact
We shall made shrimp skewer with it
yes p l e a s e
tempura is better imo
Tempura is fried shrimp in bread crumbs
I suppose they do have multiple groups to appeal too with such a thing
The lore fans, and the grinders who want cool stuff
so was there supposed to be a boss fight with the king? thats what the concept art up there looks like
I just wanna dress up like Teth 
I found something
the child with the awakened soul looks like they have one of those power diamonds in their chest
whats the difference between awakened child and only flame left child
I wonder if someday we can do astral projection in game
Or uh, lucid dream
Like we actually went sleep, leave our physical body and float around as a spirit
It might be that the awakened child is one that was awakened for the first time-
woke
whos the bird by the child of light?
maybe part of megan' 
baby megan- slapped
megans daughter lol
Megan's CCTV
they're always watching
big sister provides
1984 intensifies
in this it looks like, when you dont have light, you're losing who you are. But when you get that light, you're normal again
thats what happens in the rain no?
yea, the rain is kind of like washing away your light 
so does anyone know where corruption stems from in Sky
and when we reach the pity room, we can like barely walk
because we've lost all our light
light enables us to be who we are 
Also
There was a thunder when we first enter forest first gate, cue for the rain to fall
Are we actually the one who trigger the rain?
are we actually the one who trigger Teth's sadness?
The poems on Forest elder pins does implied that Teth is actually weeping on something
I'm not surprised if Teth is crying since literally her entire kingdom is broken and its raining polluted water
all her citizens are also dead (spirits)
and the only thing left behind are their memories
I think... its more than that
What if Teth was sad because they wanted to restore their kingdom but apart of the rock they were gathering was missing and we, the skykids were the ones that had the peices to help
Teth might be weeping for the lost of their kingdom, their people... but i believe there is a bigger reason for that
but in that case, if we restored the rock, shouldnt forest be fixed again 
The kingdom got destroyed by Eden diamond
Who is the one who invented diamond? Teth
Teth might feel responsible for the destruction of the kingdom because of their creation
And the power diamonds are a large part of why the Kingdom fell
And thats what cause their weeping
Just imagine you invented something just for that something to be the main cause of destruction of the whole kingdom
Teth needs a big hug
a fanfiction?
if krills are supposed to take away light, why are they in areas that have light
Well... likely, since i cant draw yet 
graveyard: location with the most krills in wasteland
Also graveyard: Has 4 wl
The prince got krilled there? 
it seems like the krills are in areas that have polluted water, darkness and wl 
Oh, maybe... just maybe... if the wls are indeed the imprints of the Prince...
Maybe The Prince actually interacted with the krills?
I'm not sure if Winged Light would account for the 'very little light rule'- in fact they are technically the very little light
whats the very little light rule
okay terrible phrasing on my part-
but krill are only found in places with very little light- where 'darkness thrives'
Eden and Wasteland definitely qualify for that
ah ok ok
mhm, but both areas have wl as well
thus 'very little light'
more than krill?
graveyard has how many krills? 4 right?
keep in mind though that when I say light I normally refer to other forms of light like- daylight
Wasteland and Eden are both dark places- as Dusk and Storm respectively
Vault is exempt from this because it's a fortified place within the mountain and on top of that to even get to it you have to enter the Wasteland Temple
Wasteland is a cloudy place that blocks out light from the sun- so whatever little light you might expect to find at dusk is absent- and you can imagine that a krill would favor such an environment
I don't think Winged Light being present would change that part of the krill by much
Hello everyone! I made a document about my theories and findings about the lore in sky. If you want to see it here is the link. Please keep in mind that english wasn’t my First language so there are some grammatical errors.
YO
I CAN FINALLY SAY THAT
ONE OF THE SPIRIT IS RIDING A MANTA
on citadel
backflip, iirc
MORE LORE
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quick question- where the heck were they all relocated though-
is there lore behind the rock mentioned in the patch update
because this rock thing needs to be figured out

wh
oh
which rock
welp-
the rock in patch updates
"The rock made a quick visit to their original land, and found a cave filled with ancient memories. They decided to climb to the top for a better view, and saw a heart that had been left for friends to find. Happy to see such kindness, the rock departed for it's home. After returning to Sanctuary, they shared these stories around the campfire and gazed at the stars, wondering" --- from the newest patch notes
oh my god is the buggy Sanc mural finally gone
impossible
wait wait i dont think this is from patch gimme two seconds
because that rock was from Isle
that thing never dies
that specific rock was from Isle and was off to Sanctuary to observe the jellyfish in their natural habitat
now the same rock went back to isle, for a quick trip
OH
omg
WAIT THAT SAME FREAKING R O C K WAS THE CAUSE OF ALL OUR FREAKING SANC MURAL SHENANIGANS
OSNSBEHDHW
HAVE I JUST CAUGHT ONTO THIS NOW
ROCK BEST CHARACTER IN SKY LORE
THAT ROCK IS A METAPHYSICAL MINEFIELD THAT WRECKED THE FOURTH WALL
CURSE IT- IT MADE ME DRINK SO MUCH WA T ER
<<A rock from Isle of Dawn has gone on vacation to Sanctuary Islands and decided to move there permanently in order to fulfill its lifelong dream of observing jellyfish in their natural habitat>>
hold on let me just
visit sanctuary real quick
rock on vacation y'all
ave, literally the entire server was losing its mind over this rock, we went ahead and searched everywhere
😭😭😭
I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I WAS THERE WHEN THE ROCKHUNT STARTED
someone went back and searched Isle before they got the patch update
and to no avail
the rock is a mystery
and please call me Vir Ave is just
oh sorry
tis okie-
Guys!!! The heart mentioned in the rocks story is the heart of candles above prophecy caves, I just realized
why have I never heard of heart of candles in the cave
thats it
where is the campfire in sanc???
Heart of candles
it says that "shared these stories around a campfire"
THAT CAMPFIRE???
It's shaped like a heart. Do I need to trace it like a connect the dots game?
I havent even seen those candles yet 
anyways who is this rock, and why are they in the patch notes
here's your campfire
It's surrounded by beach chairs and a weirdly clean patch of water
is this outside the jelly fish cave?
The rocks origin story is becoming clearer
this patch update it the best
the technical reason for this I'm assuming is that this freaking rock has the same murals as its lore-packed cousins back in Proph Cave for asset testing or something
/the rock is backkkkkkkkkkkk??????????
Lmao
Mornin
Good evening-
Well
Lore chat freaking out over a rock again
Lmao
I mean I freaked out too so-
we have a seizure over a rock for like a few minutes and then we die
Lol
anyway who's up for discussing a lore comp
Is this supposed to be here? (In sanctuary islands cave) or is it a bug
tis a bug
Elders killin the prince 😮
and now I have to take my mandatory water shot
It's a bug don't worry they're not murdering anyone-
yet
prenc's alarm clock is wasteland elder's war cry
Lol
All I can see is Tsadi smacking Alef over
like a baseball
actually hitting him far and fast
imagine being strong enough to knock a giant child over
Mine is prince getting power from Gw
what rock is referred to on the new patch?
You know that one rock that was referenced in one of the patches before Prophecy
The one that had a lifelong dream of observing jellyfish for some reason
That rock likes to travel
ohh, okay, I believe I remember that rock.
The rock is a mystery as old as the kingdom itself.
What is the purpose of this big empty space on top of the valley temple? Is this some kind of a cannon?
it has the same shape as some of those King turrets so MAYBE-
Wo
The ones in Wasteland were probably operated using the Fire element but
these are the Twins
would they have just made a freakin' Air Cannon
Air cannon like the one on office
If they wanted to prank us with an air Cannon, they would've. But no, they decided that tornado was better.
maybe they created the tornado WITH the air cannon
O_o
I-
What the heck does that mean??
Do you remember that other batch of patch notes from before Prophecy
It also references a rock
A rock that came from Isle and went to Sanctuary to observe Jellyfish in their natural habitat
Oh no-
<<A rock from Isle of Dawn has gone on vacation to Sanctuary Islands and decided to move there permanently in order to fulfill its lifelong dream of observing jellyfish in their natural habitat>> -this quote right here
People everywhere are confused about this ancient rock
Mmmh okay
we're not really sure actually-
Mkay
it's a rock that exists to confuse the Eden out of us
it may or may not play a hand on that buggy Sanc mural with the Prince
Because it DID reference the Cave of Prophecies
other than that that's about it for this jelly-loving rock
Lmao okay thank you hahaha
its a rock ROCK 🪨 ? or rock spirit ? im sorry im so confuse 😭😭
or is it
its just a rock-
A rock
That likes watching jellies
someone in seasonal chat speculated that the rock is actually a crab
Wait wha-
i mean
it makes sense

Travel Crab
and there are crabs in the jellyfish cave
yes there is
Well this crab apparently has either the ability of flight or teleportation
Cos how did it even-
it- wait what
Tell me how it can leave sanctuary islands-
how can a rock leave isle for that matter
Ancient rock
oh i know it traveled under ground
The crab?
yes
i mean its possible
H o w
sand
A crab can fly all the way to bird's nest?
yes
H o w
resize spell x 75
yesterday
And the max height isn't that tall
yes but thats why so many
The max height u can reach is not tall enough
It doesn't mean if u take 75 spells u will become huge
No- they'll fall-
actually since when could spells apply to the crabs
Yea-
for all we know they could literally only just work on anything that resembled a sapient being
wonder if we can cast huge spells on Elders though
probabley
I m a g i n e
Just a skid walking up to an elder
and their bigger than a house
the elder i dont know what im talking i]=about
Wha- I'm confused
are you okay, kreb
so sorry if icant tr#yope right
What-
is your device having a stroke
my lights are off
Turn them on maybe-
soo i cant see the board
ah-
ok one second
Ok? Did u turn on the lights?
Anyway people, I need a bit of help with something. I'm confused because I heard there's another ark theory and I don't know what its about.
Also
Pyre said that the enchantment spirits could have been vault scholars
brb
Why not? Their headwear suggests exactly that
scholars?
uh- go over the confusing part I guess
Oh yeah I know the arc are scholors theory
I can't because I'm confused-
ds3 lore massive im sorry im having to much references to dark souls lore
Basically these dudes are thought to be Vault Scholars due to their headwear
And general affinity for magic
i mean- it's always possible that they were scholars ONCE
don't you think they could have adapted
no they are earth benders fire benders and water benders air benders aswell
I-
Over time the Vault scholars could have had a change of clothes because Vault robes just weren't doing it for them in the wild
Some time in the past, a group of scholars set out to find a way to fix the damage in the gw/world. They managed to find the enchantment lights, and set out to return to the vault to have them studied, reproduced and distributed. Unfortunatly, they didn't make it home.
Wait spirits change clothes-
Can't they change clothes?
Idk- I'm confused- very-
The lights were lost, and the ancestors were forced to adapt to survive.
why is the concept of them changing clothes so foreign for you-
I stated it as a possibility-
How does a ghost change clothes
becuae they have spare everything
Where does a ghost keep clothes they aren't wearing
they don't because they were alive at the time
Ohhh. So they were stil alive when they crashed? I kinda thought-
they have a spare everything just no other cloths because when you buy thier cape they still have it on
what the- of course they were alive when they crashed-
they have entire catalogs of spirit memories for goodness's sake-
They couldn't have died immediately could they
Like who'd be around to draw all those freaking murals if they were dead
But- imagine falling off a flying ship after a lightning storm and still surviving-
Tbh I would love to-
Could I ask here the story of Krill? 👀
Sure-
yes'
Or they couldve survived due to the ark absorbing the impact while theyre inside
We don't really have a story of krill per say but we do have an entire stock of theories for them
Thats just one of the ship
bro that is an ARTIST rendering-
What's these? ^^'
Yea but still
So i just found out real life mantas does leap to the air like dolphins...
Got me thinking, what if the logic for sky mantas are reversed than real life mantas? They swimming in air and soemtimes dive in to the water for a second
You can check them out in the pins if you like
Also headfirst is hilarious to imagine
Btw Forgotten Ark is such a peaceful place for me.
Sand is pretty safe to land on i think
bro it's an artist rendering- who else could have drawn those murals on the very broken ark if they were dead
M y b r a i n-
Not everything depicted in the Ark murals is literal-
So while they're shown falling headfirst
ok here is my theerie the krills were not originally from eden but the scholars knew where so they kept it a secret not wanting the others to know to try to adventure to the place
It's extremely unlikely that they LITERALLY fell headfirst
It would be funny if they fell headfirst-
Lmao
it'd be funny but inaccurate
But i get it
heck what led you to believe that they didn't survive the crash for some time-
But now my brain needs to be thrown somewhere.
U can chill a lil bit ave, breath in breath out
I'm chill no worries
Ight cool
I always afraid Wasteland btw
🧠 <----this idiotic person's brain
Mine as well, but krill always terrified me xD
you're not an idiot dude- I'm sorry if I made you feel that way though-
No I actually am-
Ark despite being almost empty, has alot of stories to tell than most places
NO i am
no don't you're not an idiot pls-
Thats why if u tryna think of smth, i suggest u look at ark
Not again-
Its very beautiful too, given that gw is already a beautiful realm
aight Imma go cleanse some stuff for a bit so see ya'll-
byeee
Imma go knock my brain-
claim those children- I mean good luck-
The place with the many Krills will krill me for sure xD
My brain cant-
Wat elder manta
throw the children in your va- eat them
Sanctuary
That manta like the one in vault?
Chonky manta we seen in sanctuary island
The elder manta
Random theory I had in mind:
I think Spell Shop Spirit is the same person as the child we see with Hands-on-Hips Spirit.
Since they've been living on snow, I think Shop spirit was intentionally placed there because he misses the cold ground he used to always sit on 
Welp theres already too many mantas on the sky
Huh- we thought-
Does tehy have a twin since a copy of them just standing there menacingly 10 feets apart from them-
Another chonky one would just overwhelm the sight
And the fact that the cinematics implied that mantas also stayed underwater ingame is cool
I thought that the qg and spell shop guy are twins. And the parent is confident sightseer 
They goes mitosis

I thought so too that they're twins 
But I also think quest giver is also Spell shop guy since he's currently the active spirit as of now
Wait does that mean
Yes spirits are basically he humans of sky
He's in two places at the same time
magic
more magic
He's lowkey the most poweful spirit there is
Maybe the qgs are secretly move supersonic it cant be catched with our bare eyes
ok so yeah back to the discussion about flying crabs
He be drum guy
N o-
How about flying mantas
y e a s
Imagine eels in Sky
Imagine stingray in sky
Giant darkness eels that lurk in the clouds and suddenly lurch at you when you fly near them
Manta rays are sting rays right?...
I mean if the old concept of krills came to light, that would be the sky eels
N o-
you just said krill?ok here is my theory the krills were not originally from eden but the scholars knew where so they kept it a secret not wanting the others or know to try to adventure to the place
copy paste
why not?
Theory*
i know i cant spell but
I want to know what happened next in ur theory. Even though I have a gut feeling. Tell me m o r e.
Well apparently krills are as ancient as the prophecy, could be older than that
So they could come from anywhere really
mars
i dont know i have not gotten there yet
Oh
let me just do some maths
Math-
no its maths
Wait u have not been to eden or gw? 
yes i have'
Both?
yes
wait they could have come from the "orbit" before it was classified as the spirits land
When did orbit become classifed as spirits land
i dont know when
I mean if orbit have some fun rides and attractions i guess u could call it that
But it doesnt
but i think i know why
when they died they went there cause its not just for eden
and the krills where already gone at eden
Yes yes go on
so they decided to make it into safe place
This is ur theory, dont be shy with the details
so any sky kids that died could be reviven to continue with helping
agenst the eden
thats what i have soo far
Thats fine i guess
Uve got an idea on wat ur trying to go with so ye
U should make theories on crab related stuff too
Shipwreck have alot of crabs, so does sanctuary
i scrolled up- may I offer this one theory I had once about krill being from the oceans
I dunno which word was censored when I first sent that-
thats where they were from real life
im interested
I know- but the basis was basically that if you went deep enough, light can't reach them
The ocean is a gigantic place after all- for all we know tons of ancient krill could have rested under the surface
I believed that they evolved to seek dark lands like Wasteland and Eden as an evolutionary move
and yes this suggests that I think krill evolved to become airborne in order to seek said places
its already established that they are living creatures right?
That's what the quotes suggest, yes
the stone snakes from journey weren't, and they have a similar role in gameplay
Sky having a rich biology of light and dark and all creatures being natural were both referenced somewhere by devs
The former is a canon quote
Natural to the sense of their origin, but not biologically natural, or organic, is what i think and i dont think it makes sense either
and by riddle I'm assuming you're referring to the rock
Yes
?
it's not a riddle dude-
I dunno even i got confused
What's it then
at most it's an update to that rock quote from last season's patch notes too
When a rock have more lore than the rest of the game
Oh I didnt check the last season's
<<A rock from Isle of Dawn has gone on vacation to Sanctuary Islands and decided to move there permanently in order to fulfill its lifelong dream of observing jellyfish in their natural habitat>> -this quote right here
This one-
Ooh
are rocks sentient then lol
can i ask abt eden elder lol
idk ask the devs aksjkjakjksjka
According to my analysis, that seems to be a joke
As for the Eden Elder- one very important thing to know about them is that they're 'not around to be saved anymore'
Feel free to let ur mind work on it tho
And that they're PROBABLY the King or the Prince
There's room for a potential third candidate however there's not much evidence for it
Improbable
From there are several theories about who they are, what they might have done, and what their role was in the downfall of the Kingdom
And really none of the interpretations I've seen so far have painted them to be a saint
i see
It's commonly believed that they're the ones who'd created the Eden diamond, whether out of greed or well-intentioned extremism
Eden is also believed to have once been the capital of the Kingdom- lending credence to their true identity being the King or the Prince
Or both of them if you choose to view the King as simply a grown-up Prince
Or the Prince in a mech suit
depends on who you ask-
why'd they eat the apple?
Its delicious
We're not really sure if that's an apple tho
I mean id eat it anytime
It might be referencing the Original Sin from the Bible though if you choose to view it as some kind of forbidden fruit
Especially when it comes with all that yummy knowledge, im in for a treat
I think I saw someone here once compare the 'apple' to an orb of darkness
The same one you burn to relive a spirit memory
why are the spirits trapped in stone btw?
Preservation? though it's unlikely those are their actual bodies-
why'd they have to preserve their memories into something so dour
it seems like skychildren really get the sharp end of the stick in this game lol
Maybe they knew some kid would come along to relive their most important memories and they were like 'okay lemme just put that memory in this corpse'
Perhaps their memories can fade away overtime
doesn't sound too straight to me.
it's sky hardly anything is straightforward lore-wise-
Or those are the ones that persevered
i hate english sometimes you can easily misread persevered as preserved
Sky is not even straight
Hi what are we talking about-
Uhhhh spirit memories?
Spirit memories?
Yes.
My brain isn't off cool down but imma still lurk here-
Alr
The other ones just perished from the extinction entirely but those spirits that perservered had their soul intact
But trapped
Which ones?
I wonder if it has anything to do with their connections to the Elders
The ones we can relive prolly
Ohhh
I was going to that ave
Just Vir thanks-
I just liked the theory i had about spirits having had connection with an elder or the prince/king themselves
Implanted memories
Wing buffs
Yes
Oh ye- we had that the other day-
bruh write that down I think you're on to smthn
Thing is im too lazy and ill prolly regret not writing it but meh
Oh that- we have a server for that
If ur talking about megan
Ill just do @mention if i wanna find stuff i said

hold on i'll write it down with your name on it then-
it's weird that the same notepad doc's been open for days now
You're gonna kidnap Megan? I'm interested
Want me to dm u the invite?
yes please 
New stuffs?
Yeye- referencing wing buffs in case you need to bring it up again
Wait what does kidnapping Megan lore will bring
Ah ye, thatd be really cool
Also, kinda interesting how the Valley has functional boats now, i wonder who's keeping them in track
It moght be a stretch but if i think of more solid statements, that could be a reference about the prince/king in general i guess
@Kitsuu doesn't care- ON WING BUFFS
The Wing Buffs on the other hand- are obtained through the spirits, and are permanent quite unlike the Winged Lights but function the same way nonetheless, providing you with flight energy. If interpreted as the memories of the Prince, it's possible that the spirits have them because the Prince had implanted a memory over every person that they had sovereign over.
How's this?
Looks great
Especially that spirits, after uve saved them, stays in orbit and will give u their wing buffs every cycle no matter wat, given that u ascend them via game mechs or ascended candles
I still dont think ascended candles or candles in general are canon, nor was jt used as currency by the ancestors
man imagine Candlemaker making candles out of the souls of dead kids
Lol no wonder they get blasted into extinction
Those are gandolas
ah shoot 10 pm- the paragraph I sent is yours to edit btw Kitsuu-
Eh-
I gotta go sneep
Gnnn
Also those boats powered by the diamonds btw
Ah sneep good vir

Sneep snoop
Sneep
I've heard a story about some Sky kids falling asleep in Golden Wasteland, rumour has it no one has seen them anymore... 
I remember only Crabs story.
Skybot adding some solid lore
I need some more lore for Krills. Even if they terrify me, I like them xD
They are ancient creatures that dwells in darkness and corruption-infested lands
They also look lame compared to the old concepts
:o
That's why, there is darkness in Wasteland?
Mhm.
And they so stinky they forcibly ejects souls from us just from the touch
Wait darkness in gw because of the krills or there is darkness in wasteland
I still like them tho cus theyre really fun to play hide n seek with
My brai-
I'm confused too now-




