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Uh
I DROPPED IT ACCIDENTALLY
It's best to start with the Lore moff doc if u wanna get the gist of the chat, Kaguya ! Sorry for slamming a whole wall of links there
Oh kay
They were moving pots from island to island in gw.
Hmm
That is impossible without boats
Unless huge people lived in gw too
Which would explain huge spears and shields
But the crabs aren't huge.........
GW PPL WERE HUGE
HOW CAN THEY CARRY SPEARS MORE THAN THRICE NORMAL SKID HEIGHT IF THEY AREN'T*
Ye
What is the big whale thing in sanctuary islands , in the forest , beginning of golden wastelands and the part before we fly up through pieces of castle in eden
Elder manta
N o
No no the big whale thing which dives into the ocean
Elder manta
The rest is whale
Ohh
Forest, gw, orbit is whale
Why does it appear
Bells
Mantas are apparently attracted to bells
The whale
The whale
Because it wants to
Oh btw
Oh okay
The whale in gw also falls down the toilet whirlpool thing..
Yeyeyeye,, if u follow it. It swims from the from of social space, to the side, the spirals down
Oop
Hold up lemme take pics
But it goes to a different place
No no,, I have pics lemme grab em
It doesn't land where we land
Which is why I was saying
I don't think we were supposed to land there
I seen it like when we come from the temple from valley. It goes like a dolphone
🐬
Dolphin
Its a whale
Ik it is but it
Because its a whale-
Okay :"(
XD
I'm assuming lightskewers is done
Whale does can leap in the air if they want iirc
Lightskewers and enchantment
Case closed for now?




So Is lightskewers, enchantment murals case closed for now-
Also that thing is horrifying up close
The face makes me feel things I don't like feelin 
Oh oh also
I seriously think we were supposed to go somewhere else
About the way we enter GW main area
Yeah
Has it always been a swirly rough ride all the way there?
Probably not
Since boats travel to and from there..
I still say we were not supposed to enter there
Maybe the city part
Oh
The one where we see the ruins
The buildings
Where
At the same part we see the whale
Oh
Maybe we were supposed to go to the city
Area
Thing
"Race and the city gates will welcome you"
Someone mentioned here that most of what we see of valley today is just the upper part, most likely the higher class areas
And most of it is below..
Or the other way around
Like, if citadel is only the peak... and that thing is suppose to be an astronymy research place... i thi k there are more below it
There should be
We can finally see a part of it in the next season
The quote
Its being said as we are going to gw
From the slope
Gw is the city...or was?
City gate will welcome you
And what we see is green clouds and distant wails of storm...
Yup
Yo someone mentioned that Valley have a ciry called as City of A Thousand Birds
Oh?
Its chinese version at least
Well imma go switch to little nightmares theories so cya!
Isn't that a name of an oob....
Big cucumber
This one is a better picture 
The spinning things in citadel are called armillarys
Aren't they called orreries?
Ooh ye
Armillary
Wonder why it was once called orrery
Google says an orrery is a mechanical model of the solar system 
The emoji says orrery though 
It was also called the Orrery too hmmm
It doesn't even make sense to be called a citadel
Citadels are like.. for battle..
Hold up
gimme a second
Yeah, they're like fortresses
"the citadel is the strongest part of the system, sometimes well inside the outer walls and bastions, but often forming part of the outer wall for the sake of economy. It is positioned to be the last line of defense, should the enemy breach the other components of the fortification system."
so it makes sense that it’s neighbor had a fortress to defend themselves
But that doesn't explain the armillary spheres
Ok lemme explain
armillarys are used to study the sky
the elders are revered as gods,amd they fell from orbit,aka the sky
The elders wanna go home
so it makes sense they would commission giant studies of the sky
Did u know,
Once
Someone thought that whales
Were krills but with flesh.
And jiggly
Jiggly fat krills
lmao
So jiggly fat krills
When I told them that it was a whale
They said oh
But jiggly fat krills tho-
I-
Imagine when u make a theory about whales
And just go
Hey, I have a theory about the jiggly fat krills
Lmao ppl always say krills are from whales but what if it's the other way round—
Ik
Wut
Clearing?
ok..
The restored part
What
Yes
Murals
Do we need the murals
I have the pics
Of the cave murals and the boat murals in ark
no
Ok
We also made a theory on how the lightskewers are connected to the enchantment people
Yes.
Lightskewers
Oh go- I don't wanna discuss it over again
It has to do with the murals
And the enchantment spirits backstories
Oh I gtg for a while
I’m probably gonna make a goggle doc with all of the lore of the relmes
Lol I'm back
That'll be fun
Pyre is doing all the creatures
Rn we're at krills
- Vault theory at the background *
Theres a lot of vault theories
ye ik
hhhh, well not exactly
I think the one that has the most theories are either GW or Eden
1?
Some people think vault is just magical, its not a dream
Then there's the hallucination one
Ik
I think the dream one is most popular
I also believe in the dream one lmao xD
Lamed be using narcotics on us-
K r i l l s
Ok
We do krills
Hmmm
Golden wasteland was once full of life right?
Even mantas used to live there
I mean, I guess so
Also were mantas corrupted before the krills came
I mean, GW is a diamond factory
ye
Do you think gw also produced pots?
perhaps
I mean, prairie could trade or import and stuff
true
In this mural, the crabs seem to not be corrupted yet.
But ye, it's possible that GW made other products
Hmm now I'm not too sure anymore
They also could've been collecting water in those murals
Also
Doesn't this remind u of vault
true
Gw and vault are right next to each other
true
It makes sense they would trade
still gw
ye and GW and Valley were once one realm
They areee merchants
plus that was a cargo ship
What-
Sky
that’s what I trying to say
I wouldn't be surprised but
the vault thingys where basically books
Just one whole area to be a vault- Look alike
filled with whatever knowledge they could cram in there
They were probably using the knowledge to create more spells to sell
Or just to put there for future gen to like
Lol
Expand the knowledge, cause duh
S p e l l s
Because firework staff is costly
But if u keep supplying with firework spells
Its even more costly
They just want u to think its cheap
D o n ' t b u y
true
That one sells the rainbow , table spell and another one i couldn't remember
y’all what’s happening in lore
G o o d
what
idk
oh ok
so any ✨theories✨
shame
ye :((
;-;
yes
isle
yes
Wh
idk
isle
why is isle so tinii
O- what if like
Each, realm thing uhh land
Represent power of each elderrr
hhhhhhhhhh
so how big the realm is.?
Help, my brain died
so like would that make prairie 
but seriously isle is so smol and empty- ik it’s the first area and it’s like that so new players don’t get too lost or anything but
so tinii,,
Why is this like the only chat I talk in other than the looking for group one in this server-
And that means isle is weak. Really weak
Since Valley used to be apart of wastel-
Forest is hmmm still ok
Vault is
Uh
Uh
UH
Do the floors count-
But I don't think the size represents the amount of power each elder has lol
Yeah like look at Eden
It looks big but it's actually really smol
Anyways how's the kidnapping going
What we've been discussing on from today and yesterday and the day before is about
Vault
Wasteland
Enchantment
Light...skewers
That kinda stuff
How would I know-
I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE MANY PEOPLE ACTIVE AT THIS CHAT
Lol
AT THIS TIME
Tbh, I think they forgot a lot
Yeah..
What's your time zone?
Huh im at GMT+7
So is it 11 am right now
Usually it's noon where most people in the chat are
Ok then
So what do we talk about-
Bru-
Etc
Do we know where the krill came from?
No
Uhh
Whoever read this short chat tomorrow morning check out my universal candle theory
Just scroll down it's scattered #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Theres no murals depicting the krills arrivals righ-
I’ve got a universe in a candle theory
No thats different-
No like
This candle theory is different
SO
We are gonna capture that candle
And megan
And if we can control it we can control the goddess
All my time spent on madoka magics is gonna be spent on this project
Remember this all started cos a certain someone said that megan looked like hair
That someone is m e
Uh
Megan is our mother
We talked like, a week ago?
Is Megan everyone’s mom?
Yes
Yep
Oh...
Basically-
Ok
Yep, totally didn't lead us to our deaths
Maybe we are all Megan inside
And then we now do it all over again
Light with orb
Over and over
Isn’t Megan part bird or something?
But with an extra layer of clay
Megan is light shaped like a bird
Her full name is megabird
Oh ok
Are you new here?
Thats us. I'm pretty sure the other kids were fully light. Dying so fast in Eden.
At least
Thats what I heard
*i am
Ok
oH
Gimme a sec
Ok
Someone bring the docs
We shall send wall of link
Oh no...
My phone is lagging
Not the docs
There’s to many my brain will shut down
Don't worry it's not too long
Yay
I saw someone send like, three links last time and I couldn’t choose one
Just read all
Mostly because I was a little focused on school, but also because I didn’t know where to start
Lore Moff Doc (ESSENTIAL, credits to Bricky)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing
The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :))
Sike
Yep
Yay
Read a l l
What is moff?
Moth
Oh ok
Nah nah just the firat is already good
So us?
Well
Adios
K bye
What are experienced/novice players?
Either veterans or whatever you want to call
Moths are called moths because of the brown cape
Oh ok
And they're attracted to light
I’ve got me orange color capé
And they fly uncontrollably
I am decent to advanced in flying, so I have evolved to not moth
We are moff inside
I hate krills...
Do you guys know that place with a krill surrounding a ship, partially sunken in black goo?
Ye
Shipwreck
yep
I got caught out in the middle of there with no cover and lost three children of light
Which isn’t that much but still
We call them WL/Winged light for short-
You can call children of light winged light
wanna know a trick to not losing any wings when a krill strike you?
Yes
Are they called krill, or guardian?
Krills
Ok
Yea
Cause they look like krills
Guardians are from journey
yep
Oh, I ought to get that game
They are unavoidable,unlike krills
Home trick 
Basically when a krill spotted you, quickly open your emote menu and click the home icon. Stay on the option, do not click on anything or close it before the krill attack you
I saw a clip it looks amazing
Or the home menu
yep
I thought emote don't work anymore
Click the settings button, click the home button, do nothing?
Yes, stay in the option until the krill smash you
ANYWAYS, THIS IS GETTING GEN CHAT
Any place with the yes or no screen is krill avoidable
Theory time
RAISE A GLASS OF WATER EVERYONE
Hmm aight so
The universal candle, seal said to be the core of megan rite?
WAIT
ok
Yea
What if they are being controlled somehow?
hmm
I may be looking into it to much but they don’t act like living creatures
Nah krills already confirmed as natural creature
Altho krill might can be trained to follow certain path...
How are they controlled tho
They just follow a path, and do the same thing always
A very long remote controller
And a sip to krills are machine theory
But sadly, the 'Krills are Machines' theory was debunked
The devs confirmed that everything is natural
Yeah
Dang
If we capture the core we can capture the god-
So uh, what topic are we-
Universal candle?
mantas at the background
Does they also confirm that the darkness plant are natural too?
jjkkjkjkjjkjkjkjk
I guess so?
._.
I think so too
They said all creatures
Interesting innit? If they are natural... why they grow on spirits too?
Like the crying spirit
What about the cloud covered trees?
The candle we see at the final cutscene
yep
The cloud devoured all the leaves
At the end of Eden
That’s what sparked my universe in a candle theory
Every universe is a candle
Or other source of light
Maybe they're grown intentionally
So
Universe paradox?
guess so-
The universe is a candle theory has been here for quite a while
I think they grow from sorrow/dispar/etc
prolly-
I can’t spell
*Despair
Thank you
teary light miner i think
Yes
no problemo :DD
There are dark plants all over that place
ye
yes
Or the spirits fly away automatically so the ancestors thought they can keep the spirit back if they put a dark plant to hold them back
And it’s probably one of the most sad spirit that there is
i heard a theory saying that dark plants came from mining/technology
Pleaful parent just go 'nooooo dont goooo' while the crab goes 'sike see ya never old man'
Ye
yes
but besides that i feel like gw spirits are the most traumatized
Every dark plant, there is some sort of sadness nearby
hm
They have 3 levels of cry how do you think how sad they are
well sadness is bound to come with darkness amirite
are there any dark plants in prairie?
Lore noob here, what does gw mean?
golden wasteland
Exactly
Well isle spirits dont look really sad
theyre not super dark tho r they
Maybe something happened that we don’t know about
Here is the thing
Those four got trapped... But when we go to the... cave?... its clearly have openings
It doesnt make enough sense for me, like how they got trapped? Why the two goes trapped under the rock? Why one got caught into a darlness plants?
What happened to the last miner?
The rocks disappeared after a while?
erosion
Tru
diamondssssssssssssssssss
Consider this :
as it says in the beginning cutscene the actual lore story happened a super long time ago
wh
There are 2 of them got trapped under the rocks too
ye
Uh not under
mining is dangerous
yes
Wait, can we big brain together to see what could’ve happened at the isle?
Likely they got crushed by the falling rocks? Dunno tbh
Ye
Isle is cool
Very few spirits reside in Isle
Good place to play instru
yess
It’s given me major neverland vibes
Also
The stargazer spirit
Yes
saw a theory that isle is either just the beginning of everything (all realms are actually one realm in different periods of time) and saw another that isle just symbolizes dawn or birth, another says isle suffered a flood then a drought or a sandstorm
Good lore material 😩👌
I eblieve its the frist one tbh
First
yea
something else ive noticed
i feel like wasteland is all the realms before it combined
:-)
Have you goes to the prophecy cave?
Noice... the murals are quite interesting 
Than why haven’t the murals reappeared throughout the game on multiple occasion?
i havent rly explored seasons since im kinda new to the game
? wdym
Ok, what is a realm? I might be a dumb dumb again
So basically golden child goes to trials, they complete all the trials, they claimed the ultimate items (elements), they gave elements to 4 elders, they got crowned, boom
realm is like
Child of Light
or second if u consider home a realm
then priarie is the second realm
so basically a map
ig
level
ish
yep
under their capes
1st is Isle, 2nd is Prairie, 3rd is Forest, 4th is Valley, 5th is Wasteland, 6th is Vault and 7th is Eden
If every map is a realm, and every realm is the same, but in different times zones, than how can the murals from one realm, not appear in another?
Aight so what are we talking about
no idea
Me neither
I was reading and then I came back
My speculation
Skids are made of hardened wax/clay, the waxes become new layer of skin and when its enough skid will shed it off and made candles from it
snake
That one is a theory
Skids are flying snakes
yes
Flying arsonist snake
the caves in which the murals are in arent in the next realm so if the murals arent there then the murals just arent there
also murals can probably fade out over time since im assuming they were carved into the walls
Flying pyromaniac snakes
I'd say the wax go to the diamond which partially goes to the cape to rechrge (if it's uhh not fully charge) dunno how wax turns to candles
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
doesnt the game call it forging a candle
What if like, the wax were transported to Megan to like supply light to Megan? And in return, Megan like gives a candle??????
Yup
Nah probably not

Why would megan care
no idea
About our monetary needs
Mmm iirc someone here suggest this theory
The waxes are actually not wax, but fragments of light. Our task is to gather them, and when its enough it will get transferred to Megan and in return megan will give us candles
Why megan need light frags? Well maybe it because megan got weakened and need light source to slowly come to her strenght...
Ah
lmao
i dont rly think so
bc uh
the valley we see what is actually consider fragments of light
Imagine walking up to a goddess
They foge a candle too
do they
I mean there is a beam of light descending from sky when we get the candlez-
Anyways, why does our candles descend to us? Like, they came up from the skyyyyyy
Like hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
they look very different so hm
Why do we do the races. For candles
Yea...
Because its Sky
ok
If only indeed 😔✊
Like, I'm pretty sure it's from Megan but then 'Forge a candle' just haunts that theory
Hm
Forge a candle by giving lights to megan? Maybe?
Megan be like, thanks for the light. Take this candle
Meh
I collect 4 quarters and it converts into a dollar which descends slowly from the clouds
Exactly
Mmmmyes gibe me those sweet dollars
omg saammeeee
I want isle elder to supply me with candles
lmao
I want jelly cape :<
Lmao
Oh yess
Wanna go with me on sunday
sure
I'm wanna take like a bunch of people at once
lmao
Bringing a full server through Eden casually
It's not like they're gonna kidnap Megan or smthng-
Lets do stack of cotton chibis and kidnap megan 
No
I mean. to go to have a short cut to the point of no return
Why :(
If mantas kidnap skykids all the time then we can do it with Megan too
Then I can't do oob
yes
I need oob
yes
Ah-
Aight then lmao-
Local skykids break physics and steal candles from megabird, more at 10
Lmao
Are we onto kidnapping Megan if so I'm joining in
I'm not kidnapping her, just being a normal Eden uber.
If you see these skids: * insert photos * please report it to the elders
The price will be 10000000000000000000000000000 candles
Dont
Also if you guys actually go,can you try the cutscene enter trick
Mama Teth can't know what we're up to-
What?
Like how you do it to enter elder cutscene but this time final cutscene
You just walk slowly into the portal while dragging table far behind-
Ah-
ok, I hab table
Ok.
Eh,I just need the others to see what happens
Are we actually doing this-
If so, remind me on sunday
ok
I'm not coming
Tests are creeping on me
ok, so uhh who's going with us to kidnap Megan socialize and talk about theorise while dying? :DD
Awwww :((
IKRRR
And I'm bringing two friends-
And all kinds of experiments AAAAAA
Maybe
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Calm down lads
count me in too
YOU GUYS BETTER REPORT THE RESULTS
OKAY
Ok
THANKS I NEED THAT
Yesss

Oop
One step further to kidnapping Megan
If I disconnect, ILL BE BACK
OKAYY
I might when we enter the realm
One giant leap for lore chat 
I'LL DO A QUICK WL RUN TMMROW
Sky everything I enter a realm for the first time that day: crash.
Any thoughts on the universal candle theory
Why do the elders need ascended candles-
What are they doing-
Trading it?
???
They used to take hearts
Ik
I guess they had too many now
Ts-
Hey hair styling needs pay ok
WHAT IF ELDERS ARE GETTING AC CAUSE
Wings
Oh boi-
N o
BUT THEY CANT OR SMTHNG-
Its kinda cute when we wave when we interacted with the elder
BUT THEYVE ALREADY ASCENDED
Yea
IDK, CRACKPOT THEORY
OH
yes, double ascension
Waves back to Teth. Hi mama forest
Or Megan just asks for the candles
Teth: snatches light
Like how some spirits need double ACs
Just take it, the next one is gonna yeet it. At least mama actually used it-
Megan is secretly candle dealer 
O-
OR MAYBE SHE PREDICTED OUR KIDNAPPING SO SHE IS GONNA DO SOMETHING WITH THOSE CANDLES
Pspspps hey kid you want some c a n d l e s
Pspspsp I got k n o w l e d g e too
Uh.
Umm
We give light back to Sky,we get ascended candles
I'm just gonna go get my candles and yeet
I'm gonna get my 2 candles and just-
I just need my ac for the ts
Ascended candle is like
The highest reward
Thanks bye
ye, AC are the highest currency
In some way, ACs does counted as the highest reward since its like reward for our sacrifice
More wl
sorry-
Maybe AC is kinda like a key??
Its the easiest to get tho
u can only get them once a week tho right
But still
It unlocks the higher friendship/spirit tree
Indeed
Mhm
my first time i only got 10 ac meanwhile around the same amount of regular candles are available dailly
I get 13 at most
i spent them all bc i heard if u spend them on spirits it helps with ur wings in the next life right
Ye
I get 15, usually

It's like
AC is a key to a higher relationship
And interacting with the elders(who bowed to us)is like the highest of relationships
Ye
So maybe AC is something you use to establish a new level of relationship
It keeps getting higher-
IDK I TYPED OUT WHAT I THOUGHT AFTER ONE SEC
what
GUYS I THINK WE HAVE A NEW KIDNAPER IN TRAINING
Uskandisksndjs
HEY THERE
HELLO
Umm this chat is sleepy right now so you can get back to hen if you like
BUT HELLO COME TO JOIN THE KIDNAPPING
Hiya! ^^ I'm a bit late, but I know exactly what you mean! Here it is! <3
It was made by Geralt#2828, who is sadly currently not on the Sky Discord anymore ^^
They're all completely fanmade! All by Geralt, I think
HELLO THERE WHY ARE WE YELLING
I'll SEND YOU A MESSAGE LINK TO WHEN IT ALL HAPPENED
OK
@primal ginkgo thank you very much for this!!
hiii
Never have been in a chat without cooldown

thank you so much!
