#lore-discussion-spoilers

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vast latch
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Floshie no I have to study for PAS

limpid pebble
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Ok!

bitter shale
vast latch
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eh screw it

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I'll just ask vault elder the answers to my test questions ;)

bitter shale
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Gn everyone SkyLOL SkyYay

limpid pebble
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My brain just went
NOOO MORE HOLDING BACK

vast latch
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Goodnight!

limpid pebble
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Gn!

rose gorge
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gn!

hasty oasis
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gn!!

gusty cape
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Good night !

icy spruce
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good night

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oh cmon, 3 mins late :((

heavy arrow
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Does anyone have a video or document that has the SKY lore?

vocal lantern
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we don't have a solid storyline but theres confirmed lore somewhere in the pins

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not sure about recent stuff tho

worldly sedge
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Theory: Krills are sky kids who died in the water at golden wasteland and transformed into a krill or the Krills could be whales who breathed in the air in golden wasteland

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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Hi what is this chat about

lethal stump
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thé lore of sky ! stuff like, the reasons behind eden, speculation about the ancestors, elders, and skykids, figuring out the history of the kingdom, all that fun stuff

coarse arrow
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Theory: what if the elders are the ones causing the corruption of the world? They keep taking our lights no matter how many times we reborn and despite all that, the world around them doesn't change and stays corrupted.

hushed steeple
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I think many agree that elders were at least also responsible for the corruption of Eden

lapis notch
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I have a grim thought about the death of the people of Vault

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Namely, the Vault is connected to the mountain, yes? Since the top of the Tower = Entrance to Eden.

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So... what if the Diamond has been overloading itself little by little and it trembled moderately, thus creating cracks in the Vault

pastel brookBOT
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Hey @supple sluice, do you think people like me?

lapis notch
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There could be an instance of poisonous gases that cause hallucinations leak from the cracks and affect the workers there.

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So the workers either perish due to carbon monoxide poisoning, due to their hallucinations or something else.

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And by perishing due to hallucinations imagine they hallucinate Megabird and... take it upon themselves to join her.

supple sluice
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Yes, That sky bot, people like you

short owl
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Hey you know how in space no one can hear you scream? What do you think that means for stars?

muted salmon
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can someone explain eden to me? pCry

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and the dimond?

kind bobcat
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There's a lot of theories about Eden. It's generally accepted it was once a castle where the prince/king ruled from.

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The eden diamond is a big angry power diamond of death and destruction

queen locust
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oh mai do we have a moff on our hands?

livid valley
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why did i see raid when i come in

queen locust
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Eden- like other realms- has an Elder

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Though they're 'not around to be saved'

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Commonly we refer to either the Prince or the King as the Eden Elder

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or both of them depending on who you ask-

rose tusk
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Do you think someone could have attacked Eden? Maybe that's why it's so . . . broken.

hushed steeple
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The diamond in eden is a power sorce that gone corrupted when the balance between light and darkness changed. when the stars fell down darkness could come and takeover

rapid juniper
queen locust
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I think the destruction of Eden mostly came from the diamond- and the raging storm that it caused

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Plus it hasn't exactly stopped since it started and the boom happened way too long ago

rose tusk
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Oh I see

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So, what exactly is/was the diamond

queen locust
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Perhaps a giant version of the power diamonds we see throughout the realms

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It could have powered Eden, it could have powered something else entirely

rose tusk
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Mhm

queen locust
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But because of its size and how unstable it is, if it was a power diamond then it could be an attempted upgraded version of it

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Normally power diamonds absorb and convert light into energy to power certain mechanisms- but it isn't an automated system where it can draw power when it likes, where it likes

pseudo heart
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Good morning everyone, and same

queen locust
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WAIT BOOP IS FILIPINO BECAUSE THAT'S TAGALOG LMAOOO

pastel brookBOT
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We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @queen locust. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.

queen locust
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Right, sorry skybot- that happened before too-

pseudo heart
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WAIT ARE YALL FILIPINO

queen locust
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Does it trigger the warning if I mentioned the language the heck-

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Also ye

pseudo heart
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Filipinese

queen locust
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f i l i p i n e se I'm-

pseudo heart
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Okay so,, what were yall talkin about before I barged in

queen locust
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Eden and the Diamond-

kind bobcat
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The eden diamond

pseudo heart
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Ah yes my favorite

queen locust
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that sounds like a freaking band name the heck-

kind bobcat
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If the prince had a band.

pseudo heart
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KSSJSJNSNJS

rose tusk
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I wanted to propose my theory that someone could have possibly tried to create the diamond to power Eden. It could have then been too unstable and therefore broke.

queen locust
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The most likely candidates for that would be the Eden Elder themselves- either the King or the Prince

hushed steeple
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I see a lot talking about the prince... is he just a possibility or do we see him on a lore lighted wall?

pseudo heart
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The Elders + eden elder were in a band

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But eden elder got too greedy

rose tusk
pseudo heart
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The band fell out

queen locust
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tHE BAND FELL OUT AJSJASAJ

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Though even him being glowy boi is a giant chunk of speculation on it's own-

pseudo heart
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They were keeping the diamond stable with the power of M-UUSIiiCCC

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That's why the instrument props existed

hushed steeple
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There's a possibility we see him ye- in the Prophecy cave murals
@queen locust oh, thx, i'll go have a look closer

pastel brookBOT
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beware the ||beanedbeanedbeaned||

queen locust
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ah yes beware the l e n t i l beans

rose tusk
queen locust
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anyway- about them creating the Eden diamond- there's also a possibility that it could have been created in order to maintain the beam of ascension

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Or control it, even draw power from it etc.

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There's a lot of things that could have caused it to overload, like perhaps it's accumulated too much power from the beam, maybe the elements had a hand in it- who knows

rose tusk
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Beam?

pseudo heart
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Maybe the eden diamond was formed from the combined powers of the elements

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Which shiny boi used to open the ascension beam

queen locust
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You know that glowing beam that shoots out into the sky?

rose tusk
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Oh yes yes yes

queen locust
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The one we can see all the way from Isle- that one

pseudo heart
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I'm gonna follow my theory with this one but the eden diamond depends on the balance of things to be stable but stuff started to happen, war happened, darkness fell and corrupted the lands and that balance was broken, making the diamond explode

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Maybe the elemental lights were given to the elders with the corresponding wisdoms to maintain that balance too

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But they too, fell out of their wisdoms

queen locust
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aw shoot gotta get ready for homeroom- keep going ya'll-

pseudo heart
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Am gonna go back to sleep

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Still upset about the TSstickerGloomy

fallen epoch
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there's a new cowboy in town! XD

icy spruce
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I-

burnt drum
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deli,are you herepSquint beaned

livid valley
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n

pseudo heart
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"Lie down in prairie and gaze at the stars?" pSquint pSquint pSquint

icy spruce
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wh-

pseudo heart
livid valley
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wh

icy spruce
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idk-

hazy cliff
icy spruce
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I-

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or just look at the graves and look at the ancestors :DD

normal berry
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did someone say e d e n d i a m o n d?

hushed steeple
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and in the final mural of the cave, if you look at the mountain, the diamond is in it.

rapid juniper
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Yes

hushed steeple
spark notch
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top ten photos taken moments before disaster

thorny folio
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entire mountain said yeet

spark notch
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fdsgf i just realized the giant diamond thing inside the mountain

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could that be the red thing in eden?

rapid juniper
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Yes it’s because it’s in vault

spark notch
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ohhh nvm

rapid juniper
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Its in vault

spark notch
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yea its the big one from vault bdfsgvfsh

rapid juniper
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Lol yes

hushed steeple
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Eh? Theres a big diamond in vault?

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This one has a castle though

rapid juniper
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Yes

spark notch
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yeah the white one

hushed steeple
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Where is it real fast? I forgot.

spark notch
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it floats above the platforms

hushed steeple
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The elevator one?

rapid juniper
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Yes

spark notch
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and floats upwards in vault elders cutscene

hushed steeple
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Are the four mounds supposed to be the alters?

zinc oasis
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helloo im new to the whole lore of the game can someone give me a brief explanation?

worldly wren
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what are the animals that appear in the clouds when you fly to golden wasteland?

spark notch
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theres a google doc u can check out in pinned !

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this is the canon stuff

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n this is non canon stuff from this channel!

hushed steeple
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Mmmm im still leaning to it being eden but the little info diamond whatever they are called make a good counterpoint

sacred rapids
worldly wren
sacred rapids
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welcome SkyCozy

hushed steeple
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Today I went to Eden and took some screenshots. Wondered if y'all would be interested in me posting some of them to observe whatever is in the images for lore. (Nothing too big but small details matter too)

I also recorded a 37 second video of the weird sounds that occur right before entering the end of Eden with the raining red crystals in case anyone is also interested in that.

icy spruce
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sure I guess

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FOR LOOOOOOOOREEEEEEEE

hushed steeple
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OKAAAYYYYY

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why in that fifth image can we light something-

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Also in that last image, it's hard to see, but there's part of a building there

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It reminds me of how banks look

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It's so hard to see things oml

icy spruce
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ikr

icy spruce
hushed steeple
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Y e ah

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The crescent moon at the top of the beam rlly interested me

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Prob cuz I just like crescent moons but-

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And who the heck is the statue

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In 4th image

rapid juniper
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Uhm maybe a vault scholar

hushed steeple
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Very likely

icy spruce
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ye

hushed steeple
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The first image is hard to see but

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The architecture is round

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Looks wooden maybe?

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I don't understand what it is but it sticks out

rapid juniper
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Kinda looks like a ship

hushed steeple
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Yeah

vestal swift
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Y’all’s Premc has returned

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What have i missed

hushed steeple
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Yes

rapid juniper
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A lot

hushed steeple
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why is it that EVERYTIME I LOOK AT THE CLOCK EVERY NIGHT IT'S 9:11 PM I'M CURSED

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@vestal swift all I remember is talking about eden

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Scroll up of you waaaannnttttt

fringe matrix
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why in that fifth image can we light something-
@hushed steeple you also noticed that!?

hushed steeple
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YEah

icy spruce
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WHHHAAAAAAAAAATTTTTT

kind bobcat
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I'm pretty sure someone lit it once pThink

vast latch
icy spruce
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yes

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And we decided to use Mantas :DD

vast latch
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The discussion happened around midnight for me

rapid juniper
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Lol I-

vast latch
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So it's probably around 4 AM in the morning for Prince himself

icy spruce
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It happened around 1-2 am for me, lol

vast latch
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I think it stopped after we said "goodnight"

icy spruce
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ye

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And then boom

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chat died

rapid juniper
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Yes

vestal swift
hushed steeple
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Time zones are strange

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Also

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Since time seems to be stopped in Sky,

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I wonder how time was made in Sky?

Like, time is merely a concept, an invention to help us understand the phases of day and night. I wonder if in the sky world, it was developed differently

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Maybe not tho

vast latch
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Ouh

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Time moves normally in the home area

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But not in the realms

hushed steeple
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Yeah

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Home space also seems to be in a different dimension/realm/world/whatever the heck

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I literally made noodles for no reason I'm not even eating any of it I wasn't hungry why did I make noodles it was the last bowl of noodles left and I don't know what to do

vast latch
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Some say that time moves normally in the realms, but I don't think it explains what happened to the manta that got krilled in the upper swamp area of Wasteland

hushed steeple
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Well,

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If you go to valley, where the citadel is, you'll be able to observe how time seems to be stopped or slowed

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And yeah

vast latch
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Just a personal headcanon/theory of mine

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After the eden diamond exploded, time stopped moving

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That, or each realm is stuck in a time loop

hushed steeple
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Seems so

Also I like your floofy cat pfp :))))))))

vast latch
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Yes his name is DD and he is from cream heroes

hushed steeple
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My favorite cat ever is Thurston Waffles c:

vast latch
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:)

hushed steeple
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Random picture

There's also floating land in Sky too. I wonder how and why. It seems gravity is different in the Sky planet compared to Earth's gravity.

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I can't eat these noodles :(

vast latch
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I'd ask you to give me noodles but I don't think it's possible

hushed steeple
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It's possible but

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Complicated and

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Would take a week to arrive

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Idk where to put them I can't just waste them

vast latch
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Maybe more

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Just eat them slowly

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Take your time

hushed steeple
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it's too late I'm throwing them away brb :)))))

vast latch
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._.

hushed steeple
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They're gone :))))))

queen locust
hushed steeple
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Air?

queen locust
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And Earth, possibly

hushed steeple
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Air and Earth ?

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Yeah

queen locust
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Because the floating islands are mostly situated in Prairie

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The entirety of Bird's Nest is a chain of floating islands

hushed steeple
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Wait-

I think we can see examples of the elements in each of the realms designated to the ones they belong to

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Maybe

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I don't remember

queen locust
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Forest- Pouring Rains

hushed steeple
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The rjemrs

queen locust
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Wasteland- Artillery

hushed steeple
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Elements* each belong in

queen locust
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Valley- the Flying Races

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Prairie- Abundance and generally just having really weird geological formations

hushed steeple
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ISHGASIGIHSSIH

queen locust
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man maybe Prairie Elder just woke up one day and went 'you know what- I want some crazy stuff happening here- I'm gonne make some islands freaking float'

hushed steeple
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I want what he's taking

queen locust
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Heck Wasteland could have also used the flames to heat their forges and burn down a forest

hushed steeple
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:(

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Remind me where each element belongs in?

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Realm wise

queen locust
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Forest- Water
Prairie- Earth
Valley- Air
Wasteland- Fire

hushed steeple
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Yeah we can see examples of each element in the realm they belong in

Seems isle is also illusion and vault is knowledge, the two supposed artificial elements

queen locust
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I dunno if they can qualify as elements really

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Isle and Vault just seem to play some role- indirect ones with regards to the elements

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Isle aided in the handling and distribution while Vault presumably studied them

hushed steeple
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What are illusion and knowledge then

Or whatever LightRed LightPurple these two symbols are

icy spruce
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artificial elements or smthng

queen locust
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Those two things are placeholder names for what those two symbols could represent

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We're never quite sure what they are since as far as we know they only show up in Enchantment

hushed steeple
icy spruce
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ye

hushed steeple
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Well, they are symbols that are in the same artstyle as
LightOrange LightGreen LightCyan LightBlue

Plus we have to catch the red and purple lights, just like we had to collect the other lights that represent the elements

They seem to be elements, just not natural elememts

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Idk what else the two would be

icy spruce
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hmm

pseudo heart
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I just realized

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That if we follow the theory I said last night, the corpse plant theory...

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Then that would mean that most beings of Sky, especially the people are consumed by plants and most likely died a slow and painful death.

icy spruce
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cool

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wait what was the corpse plant theory?

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Cause I didn't hear it ;-;

pseudo heart
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Uhhh hold up

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Start from here

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Imma.. make a doc

icy spruce
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huh

hushed steeple
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If you observe where each spirit is, usually there's dark plants around them

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So I think that theory is pretty good

livid valley
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cant read on pc

hushed steeple
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I'll link the messages

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Or here I'll just link that one

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Both are pretty much related

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tbh i just realized the first message linked had nothing to do with dark plants growing from corpses jhshisdixihihd

icy spruce
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I-

hushed steeple
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I've only ever seen one way people use "I-" so idk what kind of reaction you're doing

icy spruce
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oh, I use 'I-' when I'm speechless

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or clueless

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This time speechless

hushed steeple
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Ah ok

icy spruce
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ahaha- sorry

hushed steeple
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It's ok

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I've only ever seen ppl use "I-" when they're upset kxhhdhdihd

short owl
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You struggle for words often then

hushed steeple
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Or angy

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Usually angy

icy spruce
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huh

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anyways, l o r e

hushed steeple
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Hmmmmmmmmm

icy spruce
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quick, think of a topic

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uhhhhhh

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do you think Eden Elder and King/Pince are the same person?

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*Prince

hushed steeple
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Since we don't know much about them, I've never assumed whether they're the same people or not

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So I have no opinion on that

short owl
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Do you think skykids understand what a baby is

hushed steeple
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Nope

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They're naturally birthed as like,

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Seven year olds

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And anything older than them have been spirits and elders

icy spruce
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I would say skids were always...skids

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But I don't think skids uhhh undrstands wht a baby is-

hushed steeple
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I think Chibis are actually toddlers

icy spruce
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I would say chibis are just Skids, just really short but not toddlers or smthng-

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Wait-

hushed steeple
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Doesn't the height of skids go from like

2'0 to 3'10

icy spruce
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no idea-

hushed steeple
icy spruce
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oh

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huh-

hushed steeple
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Skids seem to be mentally seven

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I'm curious about the psych behind skids

pseudo heart
hushed steeple
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I'm mentally thirty ihzxhixihx

pseudo heart
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Well I'm mentally 7 so there's one thing me and my skid have in common

hushed steeple
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What I meant is how skids express themselves in cutscenes and stuff

pseudo heart
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Lmaooo

hushed steeple
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They're very curious, just discovering the world and how the world works

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Developing the process of thinking outside the box and stuff

icy spruce
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true

hushed steeple
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I genuinely currently feel so sorry for skids because they're so young and have to go through severe mental trauma when facing Eden

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However, maybe trauma is different for them than for hoomans

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Seems like they were created to be strong

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Smol but stronk

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....do they have brains?

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How do they function if they're internally made of light-

umbral fossil
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Oh wait were you still looking for the heights? Just came online, but i have them saved in my photos

hushed steeple
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No

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But thanks

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Rn I'm just wondering about sky kid's psychology

umbral fossil
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K

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Oh yeah i get really sad sometimes thinking about they have to experience a violent death over and over again

hushed steeple
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:(

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Are they though?

icy spruce
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I mean, I would say

umbral fossil
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But trauma is also a physical thing too so it might be theyre just wired to handle it better

icy spruce
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true

umbral fossil
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They have expressions though

icy spruce
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They just imitate it from dead people

umbral fossil
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And we just imitate our parents and guardians

hushed steeple
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If skids were emotionless, they would lack empathy/sympathy. We see them express sympathy to the gw elder when he kneels down in what looks to be disappointment and despair and they light his spear with fire to help him.

icy spruce
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oh ye

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true

umbral fossil
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And they hug the col at the end, that seems pretty sympathetic to me

hushed steeple
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They wouldn't care enough to sacrifice themselves in Eden if they were emotionless

umbral fossil
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True

hushed steeple
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They develop friendships and everything

icy spruce
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true

umbral fossil
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The entire game is built on social relationships, kinda hard without emotions

hushed steeple
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Skids might be mentally stronger than us humans. No human would be able to handle sacrificing their lives repetitively like skids can.

umbral fossil
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Oh man i wish i knew more about psychology to think about this more in depth

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But also human minds are incredibly resilient

hushed steeple
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I could prob help since I've been studying it for a long time

hushed steeple
umbral fossil
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True

hushed steeple
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Skids seem to have limited amount of fear

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They experience something very impacting yet they get back up and keep going. A human would avoid whatever threat, or keep going, then possibly eventually give up.

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And people don't like repetitive things. If things are too repetitive, we think "what's the point?" Skids don't seem to think this way.

umbral fossil
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Or they're just too young too really understand what to be afraid of

hushed steeple
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Kinda wonder if skids are mind controlled

umbral fossil
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But the repetitive thing yeah

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Well by us

hushed steeple
umbral fossil
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I have seen kids try to do insanely dangerous things. I regularly put my hand in fire as a kid

hushed steeple
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Okay we're thinking of two different things zjjdzjgdjg

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That's curiosity

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What I'm talking about is.... More severe

umbral fossil
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Ohh I think I get it now yeah

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But also what kid wouldn't be curious about a giant light beam in the sky now that I think of it

hushed steeple
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Skids don't seem to have a brain. In order for an organism to function by itself, it needs a brain, so I'm wondering if skids are mind controlled.

Possibly by Megan.

Now you could question "then why do skids develop friendships and stuff?"

Well, God can do whatever they want, plus, a God is a creator. What else is a creator? Am author of a book, a game dev, screenwriters, etc. Megan probably gave sky kids identities and stuff by themselves when they're bored lol.

umbral fossil
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This is starting to get into some of the same existential issues humans deal with too

hushed steeple
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But ofc there's more meaning to skids existing than just their boredom

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Their as in megan

hushed steeple
umbral fossil
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And some of those things may just be a result of game mechanisms and not in universe lore

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But it's interesting to think of how they really differ from humans other than the obvious flying and light stuff

hushed steeple
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Yeah

umbral fossil
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Like how it affects their brains and development since they are kids

hushed steeple
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I wonder if internally, skids kinda look like orbit

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wait....

umbral fossil
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Like internal galaxy?

hushed steeple
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oh my god

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Yes

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Holy shoot how do I describe what I just put together-

umbral fossil
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Oh man this is exciting please elaborate

hushed steeple
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So skid's hearts are just light. We take our that light and put it on a candle.

When traveling in orbit, we fly to the giant light orb. Maybe that's representing a skid's heart. The frame we walk into represents the candle we hold, which is why we see our candle at the end of the ending credits.

The stars in forms of lines can resemble a skid's nerves or veins, or both.

Megan could represent consciousness.

umbral fossil
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NJENCJNDVJNFDHNFECNHEFNVH THAT'S BRILLIANT

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Kind of like the universe reflecting itself

hushed steeple
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There's even on office, a concept showing that the six realms representing the stages of someone's life.

Birth to death

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Sky could represent a person's life and who they are and what they are

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Everything in existence is like a copy of the universe

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Or whatever

umbral fossil
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Yeah, that would tie in more and there's more concept art around t hat idea and it would also make the candle scene at the end of credits make more sense

hushed steeple
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Redesigned off of the universe

willow sparrow
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Hello everyone! Any theories on the next TS?

umbral fossil
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The theory of everything repeating itself in even the smallest ways

hushed steeple
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Yeah

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@willow sparrow nope

umbral fossil
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@willow sparrow I think someone said juggling spirit but that was just a rumor

empty trellis
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I think every area tells a different part of life

umbral fossil
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Yeas!!

hushed steeple
umbral fossil
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There's a LOT of early art and designs supporting that, with the stages of life

empty trellis
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Also its the guitar spirit

umbral fossil
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Ooh I hope it's guitar

hushed steeple
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One of them is also the jellyfish head spirit

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Apparently

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According to a video I saw today

umbral fossil
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That's in beta

willow sparrow
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The next TS is the guitar spirit

livid valley
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wassap no beta talk please

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also ts talk in other channels

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this is lore

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ts is basically a game mechanic for me

hushed steeple
#

There's two ts coming soon

December tenth and eighteenth right?

livid valley
hushed steeple
#

Yeah I would rlly like to continue talking about orbit anyways

livid valley
#

alr

umbral fossil
#

I love orbit, the lore the music visuals just bdfnvidfhvdfnvdrj

hushed steeple
#

Yes

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Also the elders probably represent what children often look up to.

Teachers, parents, etc

umbral fossil
#

It's ethereal, and a really optimistic view of death that doesn't get shown a lot in media

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And yes to elders being authority figures etc

hushed steeple
#

Afterlife is a pretty common belief system

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I hope there's an afterlife

#

hello death anxiety!

umbral fossil
#

Yeah but most stuff I see I media on death is really dark and pessimistic

livid valley
icy spruce
#

hallo

hushed steeple
umbral fossil
#

: (

hushed steeple
#

It seems Sky has religious references in it. Religious references to all sorts of beliefs and not just one.

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Which I think is cool

umbral fossil
#

YES afterlife, Eden reference, the concept of redemption of generational sins

hushed steeple
#

It also commonly represents reincarnation

#

Not only do we go to an afterlife, we are reborn too

umbral fossil
#

Yeah that's really neat

hushed steeple
#

Sky always helped me cope with my thanatophobia :))

empty trellis
#

Dawn - confusion - infant
Daylight - fun - child
Forrest - gloomy - teenager
Valley - on track - adult
Wasteland - mid life crisis - 40's
Vault - knowledge you've gathered over the years - old
Edan - fighting til the end - death then rebirth

umbral fossil
#

Especially that it's used as an actual component of the story and not just a game mechanism

hushed steeple
#

How many floors do we go up in vault btw?

#

Because if seven, then I wonder if vault resembles dementia

umbral fossil
#

ONe for each realm at least

hushed steeple
#

So six floors

icy spruce
#

Actually 7-

umbral fossil
#

Seven if counting ground floor

icy spruce
#

Yep

hushed steeple
icy spruce
#

Yeah, there's ground

hushed steeple
#

Then maybe the floors resemble each stage of dementia

icy spruce
#

and then the 6 realms

umbral fossil
#

I like the theory that the Vault we explore is a dream/memory and the broken version at the end leading to Eden is the reality

hushed steeple
#

Vault is my favorite realm

umbral fossil
#

Same

hushed steeple
#

Vault elder is also my favorite elder

umbral fossil
#

Of the main six at least otherwise orbit

#

I'm tied between Vault and forest elders

empty trellis
#

There are 6 spirits there

hushed steeple
#

Sometimes I tie btw vault and valley elders

umbral fossil
#

I just love the concept of the valley elders too

#

The idea of one soul/entity in two bodies

empty trellis
#

I think of Gemini when I see the valley elders

hushed steeple
#

Interesting

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I theorize that valley elders were once conjoined twins who split apart physically

umbral fossil
#

I think of Pisces

hushed steeple
#

The two twins have robotic looking arms. Are they each on the right side or left side?

rose gorge
#

one has it on the left and one has it on the right i think

umbral fossil
#

I always have a hard time catching details with those two, they move so fast

sly kestrel
#

The devs confirmed they were always twins and were never one single body before

icy spruce
#

O-

hushed steeple
#

Ah

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Would that be in any documents pinned here?

umbral fossil
#

But they are one elder so maybe something more like platonic soulmates

hushed steeple
#

no

sly kestrel
#

They are 2 physically but represent one elder

hushed steeple
#

They're siblings

#

Well

#

Actually

sly kestrel
#

2 halves of a bagel is still one bagel

umbral fossil
#

A lot of cultures have twins having special bonds too

hushed steeple
#

I see what you mean now

#

When I think soulmates my brain automatically thinks "romantic relationship" for some reason

#

So I was like "u h-"

umbral fossil
#

Yeah that's why I specified platonic

hushed steeple
#

Yeah

umbral fossil
#

I meant in the more literal their souls are bonded way

hushed steeple
#

Yeah

umbral fossil
#

Sorry for the confusion haha

hushed steeple
#

It's fine, it was my own brain confusing me

umbral fossil
#

Well media romanticized the idea of soulmates in every meaning of the word so it's not that far of a stretch

hushed steeple
#

I'm also more impacted by romantic related things anyways so ye

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Can't rlly relate with friendships and other things

#

Anyways

#

Idk what else

#

To talk abt

umbral fossil
#

Ah I gotta go anyways, shouldn't've even come on rlly it's past midnight here and I have classes in the morning

hushed steeple
#

Dang

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Well goodnight

umbral fossil
#

It was really interesting talking with you

hushed steeple
#

You too

umbral fossil
#

Have a good night/whatever time it is by you

hushed steeple
#

Thanks

#

I think we have the same time zone tho

#

Xjgjgxjgxjfz

umbral fossil
#

Lol

livid valley
#

idk

icy spruce
#

dunno

#

hmm

still path
#

hi what is this place for??

hushed steeple
#

@still path the story behind Sky

#

And other stuff

willow sparrow
#

Discussing about the lore of Sky! Check out the pins for more info

still path
#

ohh thanks!!!♥

jade herald
#

teeth

pseudo heart
#
#

Whoops

hushed steeple
teal orbit
#

hey folks

icy spruce
#

hallo

teal orbit
#

i rlly need more manta theories guys...

#

like seriously...

#

yes

#

oooh maybe its like a cry of pain as the stasis spark column stretched to its limit before snapping back to the manta like a rubber band

#

prob not... or they would deep call when they let us off at the temple....

#

they only deep call in forced separations lol

#

like jellies

teal orbit
bitter shale
#

Lmaoo

zinc oasis
#

what do you guys think is the lore behind the in game curency and buying things from spirits pEyes

hushed steeple
#

hmmm

#

e c o n o m y

#

everything needs e c o n o m y

#

e c o n o m y

pseudo heart
#

Yeah,, the game words paying for purchased items as "offering"

hushed steeple
#

imagine the amount of candles they have

#

imagine the amount of candles the ts have

teal orbit
hushed steeple
#

yup, so the ts can increase how much we need to offer everytime they come back. stickerGloomy

teal orbit
#

@sacred rapids, i kinda need u to start recording... and a bit quickly... i got us an editor and they are waiting....

#

imma send u the script

hushed steeple
#

i cant think of any theories on mantas

#

btw

#

what about the elder manta and spirit mantas?

#

are they counted-?

feral radish
#

OG questgiver is Confident Sightseer's child

pulsar iris
#

when did all the spirits die? Was it stagnated or like eden took everyone out at once

queen locust
#

There's a few ways to think about it and that's two of them

#

It could be that the boom happened first and took out a huge chunk, and eventually it just stagnated

#

Or vice versa and the Eden boom was just the final straw and took out the rest of the population that was still alive

pulsar iris
#

But same time, what makes certain memories more important than others? I assume the crying spirit died after all their friends died before them.. and maybe the krill took out everyone in wasteland... but it doesn’t show death for all the spirits.. so was it like a last memory

queen locust
#

i mean- I sure hope that your last memory wasn't sightseeing with your kid

#

seconds or minutes before disaster-

pulsar iris
#

... I would rather not see it coming imo lmao

#

Chilling with my kid seems like the best way to go

queen locust
#

Still- it'd be pretty weird and hecking specific if they all died at once- especially since in some memories we see them with other spirits

#

Like Twirling Champion

pulsar iris
#

Yea...

queen locust
#

man imagine having your most important memory be under a temple somewhere telling a miner to go screw off

pulsar iris
#

Or your most important memory was almost dropping a tree on someone

queen locust
#

whelp- gotta go eat brb

pulsar iris
#

Enjoy your food

#

I’m going to sleep ☺️

#

Night guys

hushed steeple
#

whats most important to me is playing hide and seek: says the chibi mask spirit

undone harbor
#

UHH I HAVE A THEORY ON UNIVERSAL CANDLE-

hushed steeple
#

xD

#

spill-

undone harbor
#

the candle we see at the end of the game-

hushed steeple
#

what candle-

#

wait which end of the game

#

the cutscene-?

undone harbor
#

uhh that final cutsene

#

yeah

hushed steeple
#

ohhh

#

okok

teal orbit
#

its not lore territory i think lol

#

its basically ending credits lol

#

like in a movie

undone harbor
teal orbit
#

the head

undone harbor
#

and we have an orb of light in our body too

#

if we follow the "our orb of light=the candle we always take out theory"

#

that means the orb on top of megan can be a candle-

#

when she does something to it of course

hushed steeple
#

thats why when we are out of light. we take out the candle and its unlit

undone harbor
#

and that candle is the final cutscene candle

hushed steeple
#

BUT APPARENTLY WHEN U HONK IT GIVES OFF LIGHT-

teal orbit
teal orbit
#

just... no

hushed steeple
#

deep call

teal orbit
#

remember?

hushed steeple
#

oop

undone harbor
#

so if we can get that candle we can control her-
(yes this is related to the kidnapping)

hushed steeple
#

s t o p

#

i dont need another spam about kidnapping megan

teal orbit
undone harbor
#

look I am not thinking all this time at class about this just for you to say stop

hushed steeple
#

lmao

#

i really dont want another bunch of people spamming for us to kidnap megan-

#

also focus on class-

undone harbor
hushed steeple
#

welp

#

im not apart of this

#

never was

undone harbor
hushed steeple
#

never will be-

undone harbor
#

you were

hushed steeple
#

u can go on without me

#

nope nope nope

undone harbor
#

and you'll always be

hushed steeple
#

no

#

never was

#

never will be

#

but i'll watch from here-

undone harbor
#

I remember you were a guard-

hushed steeple
#

since w h e n

undone harbor
#

IDK I REMEMBER THERE WERE 2

hushed steeple
#

what-

undone harbor
#

anyways being a bystander is fine

hushed steeple
#

y e a-

undone harbor
#

just don't tell the goddess anything and your life is safe-

hushed steeple
#

if i dont die here, ill die of dehydration so dont worry

#

also i wont say a thing

#

because im not even here

undone harbor
#

good

queen locust
#

this might be out of the blue but can we discuss the climate of Valley

#

is that snow or is that sand

undone harbor
#

snow

queen locust
#

I'm firmly on the snow side too yes

#

But- my friend pointed out to me the architecture of Valley

#

And because we've established that it's based off of Roman architecture- should it not be something built for like- a snowy climate

#

Roman architecture is built for warmer climates- particularly Mediterranean

#

And we know for a fact that spirits can get cold because of Shivering Trailblazer

#

so why the hell do the buildings in Valley look like they belong in a Mediterranean coast

#

from a logical perspective I argued that it could only be snow because of the altitude of Valley

hushed steeple
#

m o u n t a i n

#

thats why its called valley

queen locust
#

But now that the architecture comes into play I'm doubting it just a bit

queen locust
#

it looking cool won't save you from the cold

#

and was that a p u n

undone harbor
#

the houses are built into the mountains though

hushed steeple
queen locust
#

not to mention most of the spirits we see in Valley are athletes- heck the Twins are athletes

#

So that's a lot of calories that they've gotta burn in such a cold place

#

Just moving around at all in low temperatures would take up a lot of energy

#

Then again it's unlikely that the ice tunnel would survive for long if the terrain is sandy

hushed steeple
#

lol

#

but what comes after is sandy

queen locust
#

I can suspend my disbelief for the frozen lake but not the ice tunnel

#

god yes we have all the sand that we could ever care to find in Wasteland

hushed steeple
#

yep

#

s a n d

queen locust
#

sand for miles- sand everywhere-

hushed steeple
#

yup

queen locust
#

i still wonder why their architecture looks like that

hushed steeple
#

lets just not question the architecture for now and stick with mantas-

queen locust
#

it's just not i d e a l for a cold climate-

hushed steeple
#

its just i d e a l for attracting people to come watch the race that is so annoying and slow

queen locust
#

that's for tourists who only have to stay for the duration of a race and maybe a play

#

but what about the people who freaking live there

hushed steeple
#

t o o b a d

#

attracting tourists is clearly more important in the elders eyes.

#

xDDD

queen locust
#

idk if I can accept that as an actual answer despite how plausible it sounds-

hushed steeple
#

lmao

#

i mean, that does happen irl-

teal orbit
#

guysguysguys... i had a fun idea

hushed steeple
#

?

teal orbit
#

if we got 8 skids and we all went into the water under the ice rink, would the water spill outta the holes?

#

would the water that spilled out freeze?

#

no

#

cuz the water is an illusion

hushed steeple
#

what-

teal orbit
#

a hallucination

#

its just air down there

#

not water

#

HA I CRACKED IT

queen locust
#

not sure if there's a function that even exists to make the scenario you just proposed possible in-game

teal orbit
#

THE 2 MONTH MYSTERY

hushed steeple
#

yea

queen locust
#

so I'm not sure if it's cracked per say

teal orbit
#

i... didnt?

hushed steeple
#

but under frozen ice would be water according to irl

teal orbit
#

buts its sky

queen locust
#

and I guess hallucinating would be plausible tho

hushed steeple
#
  1. it wouldnt be all frozen because thats science
#

maybe

queen locust
#

considering the height we're at

hushed steeple
#

but-

teal orbit
#

rain is a hallucination, why not ice water? lol

hushed steeple
#

the wl

queen locust
#

the rain

hushed steeple
#

how did the wl-

teal orbit
queen locust
#

clearly hurts us

#

it's not a hallucination

hushed steeple
#

but water

#

ye

teal orbit
hushed steeple
#

u can see it hurting us-

#

we can die in it-

#

we legit lose light from it-

teal orbit
#

the poison is causing hallucinations and losing health

queen locust
#

i'm legitimately surprised that the one proposing a biology series solely for this game would say 'mind over matter' so casually

hushed steeple
#

lmao

teal orbit
#

lol

hushed steeple
#

oml i have like 10 notifs from Sky-

#

anyway

#

i doubt that its a hallucination o.o

teal orbit
#

u know how when u make the rain stop by summoning a buncha jellies to prove that u mean no harm? the hallucination is prob being lifted and when we go back to one of the rainy places it doesnt rain, even when its raining for other players lol

queen locust
#

hallucinating isn't an entirely implausible concept considering we have Vault which is an acid trip that's somehow considered a realm

teal orbit
#

ye

#

lotta game mechs can be explained by hallucinations too lol

hushed steeple
#

after a while it starts raining again for me

queen locust
#

but the difference between Vault and Forest is that Vault's hallucinations have clear mechanisms to it

#

key word- CLEAR

teal orbit
#

it does?

#

like boredom?

hushed steeple
#

n o-

queen locust
#

Memory lanterns, trippy space floors, etc.

hushed steeple
#

mhm

queen locust
#

and the fact that we're transported to somewhere that looks like the real Vault after encountering the Elder

#

AND that whatever happens in Vault- happened for us

#

Forest doesn't have any of that- unless you're suggesting that we got high off the mushrooms or smthn

hushed steeple
#

i was always wondering about the Archives

#

it also has the space void thing

little island
#

Has there been any discussion about this statue? Its design is eerily familiar but I can’t figure out why

hushed steeple
#

hmm

lone wigeon
#

hallucinations in vault? nah
maybe the weird look of vault is uh.. idk, MAGIC?

hushed steeple
#

i say its a dream

little island
#

Yep

hushed steeple
#

probably mostly by lamed's doing-

little island
#

It reminds me the statue of the mother hugging her child

hushed steeple
#

mostly.

queen locust
#

It's not necessarily a hallucination- simply one of the theories- but I agree that it's mostly dream magic-

lone wigeon
hushed steeple
#

oh yea

lone wigeon
#

maybe not even dream, just magic

hushed steeple
#

lamed is kneeling down

#

it kinda does look-

#

xd

lone wigeon
#

there are fricking spirit mantas there - its clearly magical

hushed steeple
#

i still say dream/hallucination

lone wigeon
#

why dream

undone harbor
#

I've always thought we lose light in forest isn't because of the toxic rain but it's because the rain come in impact with our skid

lone wigeon
#

and why hallucination

teal orbit
queen locust
#

either way I think we can at least all agree that Vault was never that physical

teal orbit
#

ye ye

queen locust
#

at least- the Vault we see anyway

lone wigeon
#

probably

hushed steeple
#

the vault we end up in is very, very different.

lone wigeon
#

different from?

#

some other vault?

hushed steeple
#

the vault we were in

undone harbor
#

diamond went boom

queen locust
#

speaking of the wrecked 'real' Vault

hushed steeple
#

xD

#

ye?

lone wigeon
#

whats real vault

teal orbit
#

lamed tried to spruce up vault but ended up making it even more boring...
if she had at least lets us read the dang books...

hushed steeple
queen locust
#

There was a convo yesterday that never really reached a conclusion

undone harbor
#

?

queen locust
#

Mostly it involved Archives

#

And who might have broken into it

hushed steeple
#

oh yeaaa

lone wigeon
#

?

hushed steeple
#

i remember

teal orbit
#

real vault is the vault without any of the magical special effects lol

lone wigeon
#

why is this called real?

hushed steeple
#

the broken down one

queen locust
#

Because you know how Archives is this forbidden place that was broken into

lone wigeon
#

and why with magic is fake?

undone harbor
queen locust
#

And that there weren't any clear signs of people breaking out

hushed steeple
#

exactly

#

or any signs of people breaking in

teal orbit
queen locust
#

Maybe there was, and that clear sign might have been the way into Eden

hushed steeple
#

hm

teal orbit
undone harbor
#

there were stairs and a working door so

hushed steeple
#

hm

undone harbor
#

umm

#

maybe preparing for skids?

queen locust
#

Before we totally exit it from the broken part though you'll notice that we kind of black out for a second

pseudo heart
#

HowdeeSkyYay

hushed steeple
#

yea.

queen locust
#

And then we just emerge from the two player door

pseudo heart
#

What's the topic?

hushed steeple
#

and the thing we exit from also looks really, weird.

lone wigeon
#

idk. xD

hushed steeple
#

it reminds me of like stuffing from a toy or something xD

queen locust
#

But from the way the Archives spiraled downwards doesn't sit right with me- how did we get from the bottom floor to the top part so quick

hushed steeple
#

maybe the Archives we were in was also not the real- one.

lone wigeon
#

its full of holes. Its like there were no natural passages

#

between the levels

hushed steeple
#

so maybe we never actually explored the archives fully

lone wigeon
#

ofc we never did that

#

have u seen how many cubes are in there?

#

there is a hole in one wall

hushed steeple
#

or the hallucination was tricking us into thinking we were in order to protect the knowledge inside the Archives?

lone wigeon
#

I aint supportic hallucination theory

hushed steeple
#

since it holds the most dangerous yet useful pieces of knowledge?

lone wigeon
#

how do you know

bitter shale
#

Ngl hallucination is kinda... didnt really sit well for me

lone wigeon
#

why

queen locust
#

i look away for literally 6 minutes and the schoolwork piled up worse than the several hundred pieces of lore we're gonna get come next season

hushed steeple
#

oof

hushed steeple
#

i wanna see new theories

queen locust
#

anyway- hallucination, dream- either way, definitely nothing physical and there's magic involved

bitter shale
#

Why hallucination is needed in the first place? pThink

lone wigeon
#

that there is no hallucination and this is just how the magical pre-heaven realm of vault looks?

hushed steeple
#

hm

lone wigeon
#

like

#

look

#

its clear that vault is special, right?

hushed steeple
#

then what about the place we end up in at the end? its very different

#

darker

#

not much magic

icy spruce
#

More, uhhh debris and all

hushed steeple
#

and uh- eden

lone wigeon
#

ofc
theres Eden after all

#

I mean

bitter shale
#

Its the real vault

vault we encounteres is something like astral projection

lone wigeon
#

why would the fact that one part is kinda dark prove that we were hallucinating, I dont get that

hushed steeple
#

then would the rest of vault not be affected by eden

pseudo heart
#

Oooh vault stuff

hushed steeple
#

yep

lone wigeon
#

nah, I dont think so.
Its like saying that sunny forest has no rain, thats weird, why the rest of the forest has? hallucination

#

nah

#

I dont get that logic

hushed steeple
#

no thats different

queen locust
hushed steeple
#

yea

#

the diamond on it

lone wigeon
#

hm.. actually that is a bit weird

#

but I refuse to believe that the whole realm is a trip

hushed steeple
#

its pretty slow

#

like, v e r y slow

queen locust
#

I really only say it's a trip because that's what it always felt like lmao

hushed steeple
#

we all can tell-

#

v e r y s l o w

lone wigeon
#

what is slow xD

#

diamond?

hushed steeple
#

v a u l t

pseudo heart
#

Aw man it's been a while since I've felt the elevator

lone wigeon
#

ah

bitter shale
#

What if, from wasteland we actually just straight goes to the vault? But there we got auto meditate?

hushed steeple
#

vault itself is slow-

bitter shale
#

Hmm

pseudo heart
#

Laughs in I use rocket to CR vault

hushed steeple
#

cri

bitter shale
#

Tbh same

hushed steeple
#

i cant ono

queen locust
#

wait didn't we always just immediately enter Vault after Wasteland

pseudo heart
#

Yes

#

The hallway in GW temple is connected to Vault first floor...

lone wigeon
#

and I like vault. Its pretty.
I like seeing game as something more than speedrun candles.

#

it is

hushed steeple
#

mhm

pseudo heart
#

Also yall know the floating sparks in Vault that keep u from falling off the elevator

lone wigeon
#

man, this game is magic uwu

#

whats with them

pseudo heart
#

Artificial """stasis sparks"""" (as Pyre calls em) maybe?

hushed steeple
#

it seems when you enter vault, the door closes behind you.

#

because u cannot go back

#

and its just a wall

bitter shale
#

I always seen vault as a vey big candle, nd the sparkle floor is like how our candle meter rises whenever we got wax

#

And when we reach summit thats where we claim our 'candle'

lone wigeon
#

can we notice that uh, at the second floor there are some kind of uh... idk but you light that and it kinda raises you

#

you know that thing

hushed steeple
#

yep

bitter shale
#

Oh brazier stuff

pseudo heart
#

??

lone wigeon
#

it also has these sparkles

hushed steeple
#

wait second floor-

pseudo heart
#

??????

lone wigeon
#

the one with the tree

bitter shale
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The brazier you need to lit

hushed steeple
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isnt that third floor-

pseudo heart
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What's a brazier—

bitter shale
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Brazier is... uhhh fire place

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You can lit

lone wigeon
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someone get a pic- xD

hushed steeple
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lmao-

pseudo heart
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Oooh those

lone wigeon
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yes

hushed steeple
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i dont wanna go to vault to get a pic-

bitter shale
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Vault brazier is quite strange

lone wigeon
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just saying, these have sparkles too

pseudo heart
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I always fall inside those

bitter shale
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Yea

lone wigeon
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why?

pseudo heart
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They yeet u up too

hushed steeple
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m a g i c

bitter shale
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Because why not-

pseudo heart
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OH

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SPEAKING OF CANDLES

lone wigeon
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xD

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what now

pseudo heart
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Why is it that.. the ark has a different different colored flame..

lone wigeon
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?

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huh

hushed steeple
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ohhh

pseudo heart
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Those bois

lone wigeon
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ah

bitter shale
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Huh? Oh you remind me that i havent cr in gw today

hushed steeple
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lol

lone wigeon
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M A G I C

pseudo heart
bitter shale
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Maybe thats where they store those color balls

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Originally in a lanterns

pseudo heart
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But it's just purple

lone wigeon
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I dont think so

pseudo heart
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Artificial flame?

hushed steeple
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the flames you use to bring ark to magic represents different uh- elements i suppose

lone wigeon
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yeah, uh... what are these balls exactly

pseudo heart
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But there's other lanterns with normal flame..

hushed steeple
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m a g i c

bitter shale
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Likely spells?

hushed steeple
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maybe

lone wigeon
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spells

bitter shale
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Uhh

hushed steeple
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the do make spells there

lone wigeon
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sounds good

bitter shale
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Hmm

pseudo heart
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Those aren't balls

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They're flames

lone wigeon
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well its ENCHANTED

bitter shale
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Spell orbs

hushed steeple
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they make spells there remember?

lone wigeon
bitter shale
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Ye

lone wigeon
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ones^

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spell theory speaks to me

bitter shale
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Those arent balls, those are orbs

lone wigeon
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theyre clever alchemics

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orbs

pseudo heart
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But u know

lone wigeon
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ok, orbs

pseudo heart
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Seeing as there's normal flame—

hushed steeple
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its a s p e l l i assume

pseudo heart
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Why need to make enchanted ones

hushed steeple
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okok

lone wigeon
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maybe they just were like: look, looks cool, I like that

pseudo heart
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Or do the enchantment ppl just wanna flaunt their bippity boppity stuff

bitter shale
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Maybe tehre is one lantern for normal fire and one kind for storing spells? Idk

lone wigeon
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thats why we have colored flames

hushed steeple
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they sell spells.

lone wigeon
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or they didnt enchant every flame

bitter shale
hushed steeple
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its a spell-

lone wigeon
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its clear its not something very important, its a decoration

pseudo heart
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And only had customers long after they died

lone wigeon
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^

hushed steeple
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they crashed

bitter shale
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We still alive tho

lone wigeon
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  • arent they explorers exploring new lands?
hushed steeple
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we?

bitter shale
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Skids

lone wigeon
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ski kids

hushed steeple
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they Crashed

bitter shale
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Jinx SkyLOL

lone wigeon
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guys, every spirit sells us stuff, they are no different

bitter shale
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They crashed, but their merchant spirits will never die

hushed steeple
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but they sell spellsssss

bitter shale
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Yessss

pseudo heart
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To whom

hushed steeple
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they are merchantsss

bitter shale
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To us

hushed steeple
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sigh