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Ok!
Oof good luck there-
Gn everyone

My brain just went
NOOO MORE HOLDING BACK
Goodnight!
Gn!
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Good night !
Does anyone have a video or document that has the SKY lore?
we don't have a solid storyline but theres confirmed lore somewhere in the pins
not sure about recent stuff tho
Theory: Krills are sky kids who died in the water at golden wasteland and transformed into a krill or the Krills could be whales who breathed in the air in golden wasteland
there’s plenty of documents in the pins ! this might also be helpful:
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. :stickerHeart:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
Hi what is this chat about
thé lore of sky ! stuff like, the reasons behind eden, speculation about the ancestors, elders, and skykids, figuring out the history of the kingdom, all that fun stuff
Theory: what if the elders are the ones causing the corruption of the world? They keep taking our lights no matter how many times we reborn and despite all that, the world around them doesn't change and stays corrupted.
I think many agree that elders were at least also responsible for the corruption of Eden
I have a grim thought about the death of the people of Vault
Namely, the Vault is connected to the mountain, yes? Since the top of the Tower = Entrance to Eden.
So... what if the Diamond has been overloading itself little by little and it trembled moderately, thus creating cracks in the Vault
Hey @supple sluice, do you think people like me?
There could be an instance of poisonous gases that cause hallucinations leak from the cracks and affect the workers there.
So the workers either perish due to carbon monoxide poisoning, due to their hallucinations or something else.
And by perishing due to hallucinations imagine they hallucinate Megabird and... take it upon themselves to join her.
Yes, That sky bot, people like you
Hey you know how in space no one can hear you scream? What do you think that means for stars?
There's a lot of theories about Eden. It's generally accepted it was once a castle where the prince/king ruled from.
The eden diamond is a big angry power diamond of death and destruction
oh mai do we have a moff on our hands?
why did i see raid when i come in
Eden- like other realms- has an Elder
Though they're 'not around to be saved'
Commonly we refer to either the Prince or the King as the Eden Elder
or both of them depending on who you ask-
Do you think someone could have attacked Eden? Maybe that's why it's so . . . broken.
The diamond in eden is a power sorce that gone corrupted when the balance between light and darkness changed. when the stars fell down darkness could come and takeover
Well its obviously darkness
I think the destruction of Eden mostly came from the diamond- and the raging storm that it caused
Plus it hasn't exactly stopped since it started and the boom happened way too long ago
Perhaps a giant version of the power diamonds we see throughout the realms
It could have powered Eden, it could have powered something else entirely
Mhm
But because of its size and how unstable it is, if it was a power diamond then it could be an attempted upgraded version of it
Normally power diamonds absorb and convert light into energy to power certain mechanisms- but it isn't an automated system where it can draw power when it likes, where it likes
Good morning everyone, and same
WAIT BOOP IS FILIPINO BECAUSE THAT'S TAGALOG LMAOOO
We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @queen locust. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.
Right, sorry skybot- that happened before too-
WAIT ARE YALL FILIPINO
Filipinese
f i l i p i n e se I'm-
Okay so,, what were yall talkin about before I barged in
Eden and the Diamond-
The eden diamond
Ah yes my favorite
that sounds like a freaking band name the heck-
If the prince had a band.
KSSJSJNSNJS
I wanted to propose my theory that someone could have possibly tried to create the diamond to power Eden. It could have then been too unstable and therefore broke.
The most likely candidates for that would be the Eden Elder themselves- either the King or the Prince
I see a lot talking about the prince... is he just a possibility or do we see him on a lore lighted wall?
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking
The band fell out
There's a possibility we see him ye- in the Prophecy cave murals
tHE BAND FELL OUT AJSJASAJ
Though even him being glowy boi is a giant chunk of speculation on it's own-
They were keeping the diamond stable with the power of M-UUSIiiCCC
That's why the instrument props existed
There's a possibility we see him ye- in the Prophecy cave murals
@queen locust oh, thx, i'll go have a look closer
beware the ||

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ah yes beware the l e n t i l beans
Ok, that sounds a lot like the Creation song and the Ainur in LotR
anyway- about them creating the Eden diamond- there's also a possibility that it could have been created in order to maintain the beam of ascension
Or control it, even draw power from it etc.
There's a lot of things that could have caused it to overload, like perhaps it's accumulated too much power from the beam, maybe the elements had a hand in it- who knows
Beam?
Maybe the eden diamond was formed from the combined powers of the elements
Which shiny boi used to open the ascension beam
You know that glowing beam that shoots out into the sky?
Oh yes yes yes
The one we can see all the way from Isle- that one
I'm gonna follow my theory with this one but the eden diamond depends on the balance of things to be stable but stuff started to happen, war happened, darkness fell and corrupted the lands and that balance was broken, making the diamond explode
Maybe the elemental lights were given to the elders with the corresponding wisdoms to maintain that balance too
But they too, fell out of their wisdoms
aw shoot gotta get ready for homeroom- keep going ya'll-
there's a new cowboy in town! XD
I-
deli,are you here

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"Lie down in prairie and gaze at the stars?"

wh-

wh
idk-
More like lay down in Prairie and watch a winged light stare at you-
Jk jk
did someone say e d e n d i a m o n d?
and in the final mural of the cave, if you look at the mountain, the diamond is in it.
Yes
Nice and snug before the entire top got blasted off
top ten photos taken moments before disaster
entire mountain said yeet
fdsgf i just realized the giant diamond thing inside the mountain
could that be the red thing in eden?
Yes it’s because it’s in vault
ohhh nvm
Its in vault
yea its the big one from vault bdfsgvfsh
Lol yes
Yes
yeah the white one
Where is it real fast? I forgot.
it floats above the platforms
The elevator one?
Yes
and floats upwards in vault elders cutscene
Are the four mounds supposed to be the alters?
helloo im new to the whole lore of the game can someone give me a brief explanation?
what are the animals that appear in the clouds when you fly to golden wasteland?
theres a google doc u can check out in pinned !
this is the canon stuff
n this is non canon stuff from this channel!
Mmmm im still leaning to it being eden but the little info diamond whatever they are called make a good counterpoint
do you mean when you enter from valley? that's a whale
if your talking about the things you see in the vortex clouds then those are birds
yeah from the valley, thanks i couldn't really tell.
welcome 
Today I went to Eden and took some screenshots. Wondered if y'all would be interested in me posting some of them to observe whatever is in the images for lore. (Nothing too big but small details matter too)
I also recorded a 37 second video of the weird sounds that occur right before entering the end of Eden with the raining red crystals in case anyone is also interested in that.
OKAAAYYYYY
why in that fifth image can we light something-
Also in that last image, it's hard to see, but there's part of a building there
It reminds me of how banks look
It's so hard to see things oml
ikr
I mean, it's most likely used for yknow? Recharge cause r o c k s
Y e ah
The crescent moon at the top of the beam rlly interested me
Prob cuz I just like crescent moons but-
And who the heck is the statue
In 4th image
Uhm maybe a vault scholar
Very likely
ye
The first image is hard to see but
The architecture is round
Looks wooden maybe?
I don't understand what it is but it sticks out
Kinda looks like a ship
Yeah
Yes
A lot
why is it that EVERYTIME I LOOK AT THE CLOCK EVERY NIGHT IT'S 9:11 PM I'M CURSED
@vestal swift all I remember is talking about eden
Scroll up of you waaaannnttttt
why in that fifth image can we light something-
@hushed steeple you also noticed that!?
YEah
WHHHAAAAAAAAAATTTTTT
I'm pretty sure someone lit it once 
Everyone wants to kidnap megan
The discussion happened around midnight for me
Lol I-
So it's probably around 4 AM in the morning for Prince himself
It happened around 1-2 am for me, lol
I think it stopped after we said "goodnight"
Yes
It is 3:00pm for me
Time zones are strange
Also
Since time seems to be stopped in Sky,
I wonder how time was made in Sky?
Like, time is merely a concept, an invention to help us understand the phases of day and night. I wonder if in the sky world, it was developed differently
Maybe not tho
Yeah
Home space also seems to be in a different dimension/realm/world/whatever the heck
I literally made noodles for no reason I'm not even eating any of it I wasn't hungry why did I make noodles it was the last bowl of noodles left and I don't know what to do
Some say that time moves normally in the realms, but I don't think it explains what happened to the manta that got krilled in the upper swamp area of Wasteland
Well,
If you go to valley, where the citadel is, you'll be able to observe how time seems to be stopped or slowed
And yeah
Just a personal headcanon/theory of mine
After the eden diamond exploded, time stopped moving
That, or each realm is stuck in a time loop
Seems so
Also I like your floofy cat pfp :))))))))
Yes his name is DD and he is from cream heroes
My favorite cat ever is Thurston Waffles c:
:)
Random picture
There's also floating land in Sky too. I wonder how and why. It seems gravity is different in the Sky planet compared to Earth's gravity.
I can't eat these noodles :(
I'd ask you to give me noodles but I don't think it's possible
It's possible but
Complicated and
Would take a week to arrive
Idk where to put them I can't just waste them
it's too late I'm throwing them away brb :)))))
._.
They're gone :))))))
Considering the Elders once had the literal forces of nature at their disposal this might be because of one or two of the elements
Air?
And Earth, possibly
Because the floating islands are mostly situated in Prairie
The entirety of Bird's Nest is a chain of floating islands
Wait-
I think we can see examples of the elements in each of the realms designated to the ones they belong to
Maybe
I don't remember
Forest- Pouring Rains
The rjemrs
Wasteland- Artillery
Elements* each belong in
Valley- the Flying Races
Prairie- Abundance and generally just having really weird geological formations
ISHGASIGIHSSIH
man maybe Prairie Elder just woke up one day and went 'you know what- I want some crazy stuff happening here- I'm gonne make some islands freaking float'
I want what he's taking
Heck Wasteland could have also used the flames to heat their forges and burn down a forest
Forest- Water
Prairie- Earth
Valley- Air
Wasteland- Fire
Yeah we can see examples of each element in the realm they belong in
Seems isle is also illusion and vault is knowledge, the two supposed artificial elements
I dunno if they can qualify as elements really
Isle and Vault just seem to play some role- indirect ones with regards to the elements
Isle aided in the handling and distribution while Vault presumably studied them
What are illusion and knowledge then
Or whatever
these two symbols are
artificial elements or smthng
Those two things are placeholder names for what those two symbols could represent
We're never quite sure what they are since as far as we know they only show up in Enchantment
That's what I'm thinking
ye
Well, they are symbols that are in the same artstyle as

Plus we have to catch the red and purple lights, just like we had to collect the other lights that represent the elements
They seem to be elements, just not natural elememts
Idk what else the two would be
hmm
I just realized
That if we follow the theory I said last night, the corpse plant theory...
Then that would mean that most beings of Sky, especially the people are consumed by plants and most likely died a slow and painful death.

huh
If you observe where each spirit is, usually there's dark plants around them
So I think that theory is pretty good
@pseudo heart also I have some stuff I stated about that theory too
cant read on pc
I'll link the messages
Or here I'll just link that one
Actually here's this too
Both are pretty much related
tbh i just realized the first message linked had nothing to do with dark plants growing from corpses jhshisdixihihd
Also here's this #lore-discussion-spoilers message
I-
I've only ever seen one way people use "I-" so idk what kind of reaction you're doing
Ah ok
ahaha- sorry
You struggle for words often then
Hmmmmmmmmm
quick, think of a topic
uhhhhhh
do you think Eden Elder and King/Pince are the same person?
*Prince
Since we don't know much about them, I've never assumed whether they're the same people or not
So I have no opinion on that
Do you think skykids understand what a baby is
Nope
They're naturally birthed as like,
Seven year olds
And anything older than them have been spirits and elders
I would say skids were always...skids
But I don't think skids uhhh undrstands wht a baby is-
I think Chibis are actually toddlers
I would say chibis are just Skids, just really short but not toddlers or smthng-
Wait-
Doesn't the height of skids go from like
2'0 to 3'10
no idea-
Because they reflect their controller's mental age duh 
I'm mentally thirty ihzxhixihx
Well I'm mentally 7 so there's one thing me and my skid have in common
What I meant is how skids express themselves in cutscenes and stuff
Lmaooo
They're very curious, just discovering the world and how the world works
Developing the process of thinking outside the box and stuff
true
I genuinely currently feel so sorry for skids because they're so young and have to go through severe mental trauma when facing Eden
However, maybe trauma is different for them than for hoomans
Seems like they were created to be strong
Smol but stronk
....do they have brains?
How do they function if they're internally made of light-
Oh wait were you still looking for the heights? Just came online, but i have them saved in my photos
K
Oh yeah i get really sad sometimes thinking about they have to experience a violent death over and over again
I mean, I would say
But trauma is also a physical thing too so it might be theyre just wired to handle it better
true
They have expressions though
They just imitate it from dead people
And we just imitate our parents and guardians
If skids were emotionless, they would lack empathy/sympathy. We see them express sympathy to the gw elder when he kneels down in what looks to be disappointment and despair and they light his spear with fire to help him.
And they hug the col at the end, that seems pretty sympathetic to me
They wouldn't care enough to sacrifice themselves in Eden if they were emotionless
True
They develop friendships and everything
true
The entire game is built on social relationships, kinda hard without emotions
Skids might be mentally stronger than us humans. No human would be able to handle sacrificing their lives repetitively like skids can.
Oh man i wish i knew more about psychology to think about this more in depth
But also human minds are incredibly resilient
I could prob help since I've been studying it for a long time
Depends on the person tbh
True
Skids seem to have limited amount of fear
They experience something very impacting yet they get back up and keep going. A human would avoid whatever threat, or keep going, then possibly eventually give up.
And people don't like repetitive things. If things are too repetitive, we think "what's the point?" Skids don't seem to think this way.
Or they're just too young too really understand what to be afraid of
Kinda wonder if skids are mind controlled
Even children understand what's bad and what's not by instinct
I have seen kids try to do insanely dangerous things. I regularly put my hand in fire as a kid
Okay we're thinking of two different things zjjdzjgdjg
That's curiosity
What I'm talking about is.... More severe
Ohh I think I get it now yeah
But also what kid wouldn't be curious about a giant light beam in the sky now that I think of it
Skids don't seem to have a brain. In order for an organism to function by itself, it needs a brain, so I'm wondering if skids are mind controlled.
Possibly by Megan.
Now you could question "then why do skids develop friendships and stuff?"
Well, God can do whatever they want, plus, a God is a creator. What else is a creator? Am author of a book, a game dev, screenwriters, etc. Megan probably gave sky kids identities and stuff by themselves when they're bored lol.
This is starting to get into some of the same existential issues humans deal with too
But ofc there's more meaning to skids existing than just their boredom
Their as in megan
I think there's similarities and there's contrasts
And some of those things may just be a result of game mechanisms and not in universe lore
But it's interesting to think of how they really differ from humans other than the obvious flying and light stuff
Yeah
Like how it affects their brains and development since they are kids
Like internal galaxy?
Oh man this is exciting please elaborate
So skid's hearts are just light. We take our that light and put it on a candle.
When traveling in orbit, we fly to the giant light orb. Maybe that's representing a skid's heart. The frame we walk into represents the candle we hold, which is why we see our candle at the end of the ending credits.
The stars in forms of lines can resemble a skid's nerves or veins, or both.
Megan could represent consciousness.
NJENCJNDVJNFDHNFECNHEFNVH THAT'S BRILLIANT
Kind of like the universe reflecting itself
There's even on office, a concept showing that the six realms representing the stages of someone's life.
Birth to death
Sky could represent a person's life and who they are and what they are
Everything in existence is like a copy of the universe
Or whatever
Yeah, that would tie in more and there's more concept art around t hat idea and it would also make the candle scene at the end of credits make more sense
Redesigned off of the universe
Hello everyone! Any theories on the next TS?
The theory of everything repeating itself in even the smallest ways
@willow sparrow I think someone said juggling spirit but that was just a rumor
I think every area tells a different part of life
Yeas!!
Look up traveling spirits on YouTube. I think there's Sky YouTubers who put out more info on ts that are soon coming.
There's a LOT of early art and designs supporting that, with the stages of life
Also its the guitar spirit
Ooh I hope it's guitar
One of them is also the jellyfish head spirit
Apparently
According to a video I saw today
That's in beta
The next TS is the guitar spirit
wassap no beta talk please
also ts talk in other channels
this is lore
ts is basically a game mechanic for me
There's two ts coming soon
December tenth and eighteenth right?
Yeah I would rlly like to continue talking about orbit anyways
alr
I love orbit, the lore the music visuals just bdfnvidfhvdfnvdrj
Yes
Also the elders probably represent what children often look up to.
Teachers, parents, etc
It's ethereal, and a really optimistic view of death that doesn't get shown a lot in media
And yes to elders being authority figures etc
Afterlife is a pretty common belief system
I hope there's an afterlife
hello death anxiety!
Yeah but most stuff I see I media on death is really dark and pessimistic
this sounds depressing
hallo
It is. I'm scared :)
Anyways
: (
It seems Sky has religious references in it. Religious references to all sorts of beliefs and not just one.
Which I think is cool
YES afterlife, Eden reference, the concept of redemption of generational sins
It also commonly represents reincarnation
Not only do we go to an afterlife, we are reborn too
Yeah that's really neat
Sky always helped me cope with my thanatophobia :))
Dawn - confusion - infant
Daylight - fun - child
Forrest - gloomy - teenager
Valley - on track - adult
Wasteland - mid life crisis - 40's
Vault - knowledge you've gathered over the years - old
Edan - fighting til the end - death then rebirth
Especially that it's used as an actual component of the story and not just a game mechanism
How many floors do we go up in vault btw?
Because if seven, then I wonder if vault resembles dementia
ONe for each realm at least
So six floors
Actually 7-
Seven if counting ground floor
Yep
REALLY?
Yeah, there's ground
Then maybe the floors resemble each stage of dementia
and then the 6 realms
I like the theory that the Vault we explore is a dream/memory and the broken version at the end leading to Eden is the reality
Vault is my favorite realm
Same
Vault elder is also my favorite elder
There are 6 spirits there
Sometimes I tie btw vault and valley elders
I just love the concept of the valley elders too
The idea of one soul/entity in two bodies
I think of Gemini when I see the valley elders
Interesting
I theorize that valley elders were once conjoined twins who split apart physically
I think of Pisces
The two twins have robotic looking arms. Are they each on the right side or left side?
one has it on the left and one has it on the right i think
I always have a hard time catching details with those two, they move so fast
The devs confirmed they were always twins and were never one single body before
O-
But they are one elder so maybe something more like platonic soulmates
no
They are 2 physically but represent one elder
2 halves of a bagel is still one bagel
A lot of cultures have twins having special bonds too
I see what you mean now
When I think soulmates my brain automatically thinks "romantic relationship" for some reason
So I was like "u h-"
Yeah that's why I specified platonic
Yeah
I meant in the more literal their souls are bonded way
Yeah
Sorry for the confusion haha
It's fine, it was my own brain confusing me
Well media romanticized the idea of soulmates in every meaning of the word so it's not that far of a stretch
I'm also more impacted by romantic related things anyways so ye
Can't rlly relate with friendships and other things
Anyways
Idk what else
To talk abt
Ah I gotta go anyways, shouldn't've even come on rlly it's past midnight here and I have classes in the morning
It was really interesting talking with you
You too
Have a good night/whatever time it is by you
Lol
idk
hi what is this place for??
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Whoops
teeth
hey folks
hallo
i rlly need more manta theories guys...
like seriously...
yes
oooh maybe its like a cry of pain as the stasis spark column stretched to its limit before snapping back to the manta like a rubber band
prob not... or they would deep call when they let us off at the temple....
they only deep call in forced separations lol
like jellies
and we never saw them again lol...
Lmaoo
what do you guys think is the lore behind the in game curency and buying things from spirits 
Yeah,, the game words paying for purchased items as "offering"
imagine the amount of candles they have
imagine the amount of candles the ts have
the dothraki way
lmao
yup, so the ts can increase how much we need to offer everytime they come back. 
@sacred rapids, i kinda need u to start recording... and a bit quickly... i got us an editor and they are waiting....
imma send u the script
i cant think of any theories on mantas
btw
what about the elder manta and spirit mantas?
are they counted-?
OG questgiver is Confident Sightseer's child
when did all the spirits die? Was it stagnated or like eden took everyone out at once
There's a few ways to think about it and that's two of them
It could be that the boom happened first and took out a huge chunk, and eventually it just stagnated
Or vice versa and the Eden boom was just the final straw and took out the rest of the population that was still alive
But same time, what makes certain memories more important than others? I assume the crying spirit died after all their friends died before them.. and maybe the krill took out everyone in wasteland... but it doesn’t show death for all the spirits.. so was it like a last memory
i mean- I sure hope that your last memory wasn't sightseeing with your kid
seconds or minutes before disaster-
... I would rather not see it coming imo lmao
Chilling with my kid seems like the best way to go
Still- it'd be pretty weird and hecking specific if they all died at once- especially since in some memories we see them with other spirits
Like Twirling Champion
Yea...
man imagine having your most important memory be under a temple somewhere telling a miner to go screw off
Or your most important memory was almost dropping a tree on someone
whelp- gotta go eat brb
whats most important to me is playing hide and seek: says the chibi mask spirit
UHH I HAVE A THEORY ON UNIVERSAL CANDLE-
the candle we see at the end of the game-
its not lore territory i think lol
its basically ending credits lol
like in a movie
so megan has this orb of light on top of her
the head
and we have an orb of light in our body too
if we follow the "our orb of light=the candle we always take out theory"
that means the orb on top of megan can be a candle-
when she does something to it of course
thats why when we are out of light. we take out the candle and its unlit
and that candle is the final cutscene candle
BUT APPARENTLY WHEN U HONK IT GIVES OFF LIGHT-
if megan werent a bystander typa god, a lotta things in-game wouldnt make sense tho....
deep call
oop
so if we can get that candle we can control her-
(yes this is related to the kidnapping)
u expel sparks when u shout, but the shout isnt the sparks lol
look I am not thinking all this time at class about this just for you to say stop
lmao
i really dont want another bunch of people spamming for us to kidnap megan-
also focus on class-
don't worry I thought it out in english class which I don't need to pay attention much so-
never will be-
you were
and you'll always be
I remember you were a guard-
since w h e n
IDK I REMEMBER THERE WERE 2
what-
anyways being a bystander is fine
y e a-
just don't tell the goddess anything and your life is safe-
if i dont die here, ill die of dehydration so dont worry
also i wont say a thing
because im not even here
good
this might be out of the blue but can we discuss the climate of Valley
is that snow or is that sand
snow
I'm firmly on the snow side too yes
But- my friend pointed out to me the architecture of Valley
And because we've established that it's based off of Roman architecture- should it not be something built for like- a snowy climate
Roman architecture is built for warmer climates- particularly Mediterranean
And we know for a fact that spirits can get cold because of Shivering Trailblazer
so why the hell do the buildings in Valley look like they belong in a Mediterranean coast
from a logical perspective I argued that it could only be snow because of the altitude of Valley
But now that the architecture comes into play I'm doubting it just a bit
cos it looks cool
the houses are built into the mountains though
a pun not intended
not to mention most of the spirits we see in Valley are athletes- heck the Twins are athletes
So that's a lot of calories that they've gotta burn in such a cold place
Just moving around at all in low temperatures would take up a lot of energy
Then again it's unlikely that the ice tunnel would survive for long if the terrain is sandy
I can suspend my disbelief for the frozen lake but not the ice tunnel
god yes we have all the sand that we could ever care to find in Wasteland
sand for miles- sand everywhere-
yup
i still wonder why their architecture looks like that
lets just not question the architecture for now and stick with mantas-
it's just not i d e a l for a cold climate-
its just i d e a l for attracting people to come watch the race that is so annoying and slow
that's for tourists who only have to stay for the duration of a race and maybe a play
but what about the people who freaking live there
t o o b a d
attracting tourists is clearly more important in the elders eyes.
xDDD
idk if I can accept that as an actual answer despite how plausible it sounds-
guysguysguys... i had a fun idea
?
if we got 8 skids and we all went into the water under the ice rink, would the water spill outta the holes?
would the water that spilled out freeze?
no
cuz the water is an illusion
what-
not sure if there's a function that even exists to make the scenario you just proposed possible in-game
THE 2 MONTH MYSTERY
yea
so I'm not sure if it's cracked per say
i... didnt?
but under frozen ice would be water according to irl
buts its sky
and I guess hallucinating would be plausible tho
considering the height we're at
but-
rain is a hallucination, why not ice water? lol
the wl
the rain
how did the wl-
that doesnt apply in sky
mind over matter remember?
the poison is causing hallucinations and losing health
i'm legitimately surprised that the one proposing a biology series solely for this game would say 'mind over matter' so casually
lmao
lol
oml i have like 10 notifs from Sky-
anyway
i doubt that its a hallucination o.o
u know how when u make the rain stop by summoning a buncha jellies to prove that u mean no harm? the hallucination is prob being lifted and when we go back to one of the rainy places it doesnt rain, even when its raining for other players lol
hallucinating isn't an entirely implausible concept considering we have Vault which is an acid trip that's somehow considered a realm
after a while it starts raining again for me
but the difference between Vault and Forest is that Vault's hallucinations have clear mechanisms to it
key word- CLEAR
n o-
Memory lanterns, trippy space floors, etc.
mhm
and the fact that we're transported to somewhere that looks like the real Vault after encountering the Elder
AND that whatever happens in Vault- happened for us
Forest doesn't have any of that- unless you're suggesting that we got high off the mushrooms or smthn
Has there been any discussion about this statue? Its design is eerily familiar but I can’t figure out why
hmm
hallucinations in vault? nah
maybe the weird look of vault is uh.. idk, MAGIC?
i say its a dream
eden has same statues
Yep
probably mostly by lamed's doing-
It reminds me the statue of the mother hugging her child
mostly.
It's not necessarily a hallucination- simply one of the theories- but I agree that it's mostly dream magic-
maybe they kinda remind u of vault elder?
oh yea
maybe not even dream, just magic
there are fricking spirit mantas there - its clearly magical
i still say dream/hallucination
why dream
I've always thought we lose light in forest isn't because of the toxic rain but it's because the rain come in impact with our skid
and why hallucination
magic.. is causing the... hallucinations dud...
either way I think we can at least all agree that Vault was never that physical
ye ye
at least- the Vault we see anyway
probably
the vault we end up in is very, very different.
the vault we were in
diamond went boom
speaking of the wrecked 'real' Vault
whats real vault
lamed tried to spruce up vault but ended up making it even more boring...
if she had at least lets us read the dang books...
clearly-
There was a convo yesterday that never really reached a conclusion
?
oh yeaaa
?
i remember
real vault is the vault without any of the magical special effects lol
why is this called real?
the broken down one
Because you know how Archives is this forbidden place that was broken into
and why with magic is fake?
I have my bet on the belonging spirit there-
yea
And that there weren't any clear signs of people breaking out
imma go with rebellious prince lol
Maybe there was, and that clear sign might have been the way into Eden
hm
or perhaps it was just corrosion
there were stairs and a working door so
hm
Before we totally exit it from the broken part though you'll notice that we kind of black out for a second
Howdee
yea.
And then we just emerge from the two player door
What's the topic?
and the thing we exit from also looks really, weird.
idk. xD
it reminds me of like stuffing from a toy or something xD
But from the way the Archives spiraled downwards doesn't sit right with me- how did we get from the bottom floor to the top part so quick
maybe the Archives we were in was also not the real- one.
so maybe we never actually explored the archives fully
ofc we never did that
have u seen how many cubes are in there?
there is a hole in one wall
or the hallucination was tricking us into thinking we were in order to protect the knowledge inside the Archives?
I aint supportic hallucination theory
since it holds the most dangerous yet useful pieces of knowledge?
how do you know
Ngl hallucination is kinda... didnt really sit well for me
why
i look away for literally 6 minutes and the schoolwork piled up worse than the several hundred pieces of lore we're gonna get come next season
oof
then what do you suggest?
i wanna see new theories
anyway- hallucination, dream- either way, definitely nothing physical and there's magic involved
Why hallucination is needed in the first place? 
that there is no hallucination and this is just how the magical pre-heaven realm of vault looks?
indeed
hm
then what about the place we end up in at the end? its very different
darker
not much magic
More, uhhh debris and all
and uh- eden
Its the real vault
vault we encounteres is something like astral projection
why would the fact that one part is kinda dark prove that we were hallucinating, I dont get that
then would the rest of vault not be affected by eden
Oooh vault stuff
yep
nah, I dont think so.
Its like saying that sunny forest has no rain, thats weird, why the rest of the forest has? hallucination
nah
I dont get that logic
no thats different
the one we get transported t afterwards has a very broken elevator when we should have been at the summit
hm.. actually that is a bit weird
but I refuse to believe that the whole realm is a trip
I really only say it's a trip because that's what it always felt like lmao
v a u l t
Aw man it's been a while since I've felt the elevator
ah
What if, from wasteland we actually just straight goes to the vault? But there we got auto meditate?
vault itself is slow-
Hmm
Laughs in I use rocket to CR vault
cri
Tbh same
i cant ono
wait didn't we always just immediately enter Vault after Wasteland
and I like vault. Its pretty.
I like seeing game as something more than speedrun candles.
it is
mhm
Also yall know the floating sparks in Vault that keep u from falling off the elevator
Artificial """stasis sparks"""" (as Pyre calls em) maybe?
it seems when you enter vault, the door closes behind you.
because u cannot go back
and its just a wall
I always seen vault as a vey big candle, nd the sparkle floor is like how our candle meter rises whenever we got wax
And when we reach summit thats where we claim our 'candle'
can we notice that uh, at the second floor there are some kind of uh... idk but you light that and it kinda raises you
you know that thing
yep
Oh brazier stuff
??
it also has these sparkles
wait second floor-
??????
the one with the tree
The brazier you need to lit
isnt that third floor-
What's a brazier—
someone get a pic- xD
lmao-
Oooh those
yes
i dont wanna go to vault to get a pic-
Vault brazier is quite strange
just saying, these have sparkles too
I always fall inside those
Yea
why?
They yeet u up too
m a g i c
Because why not-
Why is it that.. the ark has a different different colored flame..
ohhh
ah
Huh? Oh you remind me that i havent cr in gw today
lol
M A G I C
That's also a reminder for myself
But it's just purple
I dont think so
Artificial flame?
the flames you use to bring ark to magic represents different uh- elements i suppose
yeah, uh... what are these balls exactly
But there's other lanterns with normal flame..
m a g i c
Likely spells?
maybe
spells
Uhh
the do make spells there
sounds good
Hmm
well its ENCHANTED
Spell orbs
they make spells there remember?
the one in store
Ye
Those arent balls, those are orbs
But u know
ok, orbs
Seeing as there's normal flame—
its a s p e l l i assume
Why need to make enchanted ones
okok
maybe they just were like: look, looks cool, I like that
Or do the enchantment ppl just wanna flaunt their bippity boppity stuff
Maybe tehre is one lantern for normal fire and one kind for storing spells? Idk
thats why we have colored flames
they sell spells.
or they didnt enchant every flame
I mena they are merchants, of course they need to show up their products
its a spell-
its clear its not something very important, its a decoration
yea, exactly
They're in the middle of nowhere
And only had customers long after they died
^
they crashed
We still alive tho
- arent they explorers exploring new lands?
we?
Skids
ski kids
they Crashed
Jinx 
guys, every spirit sells us stuff, they are no different
They crashed, but their merchant spirits will never die
but they sell spellsssss
Yessss
To whom
they are merchantsss
To us
sigh



