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That skykids and wl are just shards of the King's light
makes no sense
One of the points for this is that the friend constellation is crown-shaped
I personally think it does make sense
how do I get back into lore if a big chunk of mine was debunked
I feel disheartened
Krill were a very fascinating topic for me, and the ideas I had led to links to interpretations of many things
I mean, skykids fall from the sky
Probably from Eden
And of the diamond shattered, maybe the king did too
His light would rain down from Eden eventually, giving birth to the wl and skykids
but “all creatures are born naturally into the world” and everything I loved to think of krill dropped dead on the spot
aaaaaaaall because I thought they were machines
and everything was based off that
Note to self to avoid doing that again - getting too invested into an idea
Oooooooo.
I had a crackpot idea of ‘they’re cyborgs’, but the thing in concept art about them being corrupted light creatures
mechanical krill in any way seems dead
Hii nice to meet you all! I have a question about the new season (season of dreams) does someone knows if tgc will add candles in the new map?
oh there is only one candle
One candle? You mean we can get one candle per day?
Owww
I really hope they add more because it would be better,you know the map would be more visited by sky kidds and a lot of other things...
Office krill is a sleeping princess and other krills want us to pass on wakeup kisses from them
Anyone got thoughts on the krill queen concept art?
wait there's krill q u e en s???
I know it's concept art yeah but the only piece I know of are the big furry balrog m o u t h s
And the many arms
and just generally gigantic worms with mouths
trying to find it again...
cuz it might not have been concept art and all my possible theories are ded
I mean- don't fret too much, I'm sure there's merits to it
hm,,, i shall return with theories later when my evidence isnt,,, bad
i don’t think i’ve ever seen any krill queen concept art 
Because game say frick you
b r u h
listen
Idk what the sun is doing in sky
Some realms are stuck in darkness or just S U N F O R E V E R
and home have working time for some reason
and the said working time is wacky as well
you know this can be a good lore if we try enough-
aye-
LORE OR GAME MECHANIC

night at home is wacky as well
we never see moon, and only one side of the sky is bright
and yet we didnt see any lunar body that emith the light like moon does for earth
There’s a moon above wastelands clouds
But in ark the lighting appears as day
so ????!?!!??!??!!??!?
....at this point i just gonna pretend every places in one realm that give us 'holy light' whenever we enter it is actually in another dimension or soemthing
say, if sky is located on a planet... does that mean the planet just... stop rotating?
it would be impossible for us... but hey this is a game-
also i kinda like to believe the 'sun' we see at home is the same thing with the one we seen in orbit
How did you get up there
hmm :<
i like to think the tunnel of manta we go through is liek the core of megan-
there iw an invisible bench there
yep
I see ppl up there sometimes in pics and I'm like
H o w
hmm :<
i like to think the tunnel of manta we go through is liek the core of megan-
@bitter shale it’s a tunnel of light now
probably for lore or just looks
Thats where they go before getting a buffet and descending back to the real world
buffet-
Guys, we gonna start mantas now~~~~

New episode
mantas are mutated clouds
light creatures can phase through solid walls
jellyfish in sunny rorest soemtimes phases through a rock mountain
Ye ye ik
manta... well you wee the big one who always phase through the island on the very far right
hmm
do you think mantas that die because of unnatural death become ghost mantas?
Mantas phase thru the ground in valley too
we see that one in vault
Not likely... many ppl believe thats just a projection from the lanturns lol... like a hologram
also
if manta made into diamonds... perhaps ghost manta used in the making of memory lantern...
Again,
hm :<
no worries lol
Ok ping plz from now
I saw you pinged me pyre but I ain't scrolling to it so what did it say?
What if we haven't seen Krill Queen concept art because she's always wearing long rope and vertical?
With a fancy shaped head

or I think @teal orbit pinged me
Ye those r graves
oof
Ok but in the trials of prophecy cave murals
U r gonna narrate right?
For sky geo
Ok if death of the people before us is a canon thing
Are there graves in the trials
Like that would explain the random candles in the earth trial. They are memorials.
And the water trial mural has like ppl laying down and fading away.
Sus.
Those r icebergs...
The water trial thing...
The lying down ppl r dead ppl without graves
The 2 student spirits for each trial
Can anyone explain to me the lore theories behind Eden
I’m new to discord
And I loooovvvvveeee theories and mysteries
Please
Uhm, I don't know if anyone has brought this up, but remember how the isle elder is suppost to guide the boats to shore and stuff? But his mask is broken and he can't see?
Isle is scattered with so many broken, crashed boats.
That's sad. 
I just went and checked how many boats there were. There were 7 that I could find.
It makes the updated point spirit more emotional then. His friends got in the boat, but maybe they didn’t come back...
I FORGOT ABOUT THAT!

And one of the spirits that went on the boat is in a tunnel next to the isle temple

On the bright side those candles probably weren't enough to cover the whole kingdom tho so maybe they came back to restock
Hey is there any place on the internet where all known and (confirmed?) lore of Sky i written? I woud loooove to read it and learn about it :3
Oh yes- we have a canon lore doc in the Pins
Every piece of canon lore is on there
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
HELLO NEW LORE MOFF- credits to Bricky
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit
CANON SKY LORE
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
THE THEORY VAULT
Thx a lot, i will check it soon 🧐
I recommend starting with these links
anyone have tom zhaos original art? And the realm concepts as well. Asking for a friend
danke
I AM HERE AND I HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO BOLD
hopefully
lore chat sneeping peacefully
congratulations
k
The prince himself👀
He's got some priorities for sure 
helllo im back
Hello back I'm tired
I'm not sure if this has anything to do with lore
it kinda does have something to do with lore
but tis just a biology of it
not much interesting
It's a cool find!
it's an incredibly cool find-
But thanks to this I just now realized the Dedede mask is actually a canth mask.
what...?
dedede
canth
What.
i am overly confused by this sentence of the internet
produced by a few megapixels
in this app
in a server
in a channel
According to Google, canth is a "thunder lizard" or "thunder beast" etc
And dedede in urban dictionary is a... Giant penguin?
i am confused on why this creature is decribed as dedede and canth
it dosent sound like the whale at all
does anyone know the elder's names 
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
credits to bricky
I meant the character from Kirby, who sometimes wears a very similar mask, and canth, as short for coelacanth. The big fishes.
Are the big fishes called whales? But.....the whales are the ones in sanctuary I thought. These ones look like coelacanths in my view.
Yesss. I mean it even has the little jaw and the pointy horns and eye holes.
Also @keen osprey are you new here by any chance-
kind of haha
Yes the big fishes are called whales- the ones in Sanc are Elder Mantas
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
HELLO NEW LORE MOFF- credits to Bricky
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit
CANON SKY LORE
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
THE THEORY VAULT
ooh thank you
welcome to lore chat then- I recommend starting with these docs to get a feel for what we talk about here
oke doke
the big brain cell juicer family welcomes you
lmaoo
you shall never escape the juicer >:3333
:0 shock
i will give you negativity come
A quick run-down of the Prince though- they're an elusive figure in Sky that doesn't really show up overtly, kind of like the King
They're a vague entity who the lore chat just kind of accepts is the Eden Elder
There's still a tiny margin of a possibility that there's a third candidate for that title but as it stands it's either the King or the Prince
oh
I think most of the context I kind of use to think about the King and Prince comes from concept art
Or both of them depending on who you ask
OHH
Like the one where the Prince was inside the corrupted form of the king and escaped with the player.
woah
Oh yeah- that was an old concept where the Prince and the King could be different people- you get to take the King down with the Prince iirc
** iNteNse**
I kind of take that to mean the prince corrupted into the king at some point but from my understanding in actual cannon all there is is vague hints at his existence to begin with.
hm
wanna know about the juice maker
As it stands most of you see of the King is in Wasteland-
is the king/prince the figure with the star shaped head
Like “oh your freeing his child like wonder” or something artsy like that
oo
I think the eden portals top is shaped like his head too
OH I THOUGHT STARHEAD WAS THE WASTELAND ELDER'S DAD 💀
How all the elders faces are in that portal. Even him.
haha
except peculiarly Isle Elder
what
Isle Elder is notably absent from the Eden gate
👀👀
Oh. I Should go recount
i just assumed that was all the elders-
family..?
Not really- there's 5 masks on the door and the Isle Elder's isn't any of those
oop
why a shrug for me
Yeah, theres only five faces

pls don't hurt me
HUH
because this channel gets dark-
Isle elder seems to be a lot of exceptions
What if Megan was the king in a more powerful form. He changed in order to save his son, the prince, whom was the Eden elder, from the doom of Eden.
whatwhatwahtwaht
Hes also the only elder to not get an element aside from Vault
I don't know
OH
True
hey wanna read about the manta juicer
Lit
And the only one to have a broken face before we meet him
ah yes- the j u i c e r
who;s megan 
o-
Yeah, basically
j u i c e r?
you know that gigantic lump of light you see at the end of the credits
i mean vault kinda has a broken face but way less severe 
JHASBFHASFA
yes
GIANT LUMP
The squiggle
lets capture the mantas and crush them into power sources called diamonds
In the end credits
oh
Anyways, that was just an out of the blue thought, lol
interesting
Here's the concept art for the manta juicer
yes that gigantic contraption in the Forest temple is a machine and there's more just like it in Wasteland
Oh
DANG
Thats. Not a great place for an alter to put all the children under
someone said that the reason that forest and valley have gates is to protect from krills 
First time I've heard that ngl
Tis a bit of a flimsy defense though, if krill can just fly over those gates
Also the last bit of pristine forest behind the gates. Humm.
tru
A big thing I been thinking about
Elders can’t grow, they exist as they have existed
So why
How was the King young or have had a prince?
woashdfasjdbfasdf
i asked the same thing a few times a few days ago ngl
And there's a couple of answers for it
Does Isle have a alter in top of vault?
If the Prince were the same person as the King, it's possible that he didn't just age
He could grow, but not necessarily age up
If the King were a mech- even moreso
He didn’t age, just got big. And spiky.
bahhahaa
And the other thing is that he seemed to come down willingly and not fall to the sky kingdom
If that IS him
which is why its weird that he's only specifically excluded from the gate
It might make sense if he came later on
It's unlikely that the Isle Elder of all people would be late
Oh not isle oops I meant king
Ohhhhhh King-
Shrines-
OH
The ones that you use to meet the Elders
Just what im calling the statues where you light candles to see elders
Tis okie- I think we all just kind of call them different things anyway XD
Dude nothing has names for things stated anywhere in game aside from missions it makes sense.
:T
like how krill are dark dragons- that kinda thing
Same
I'm leaning on like cuz then this channel wouldn't exist if it was overt-
tru
But now im gonna built a personalized idea of what happened and everyone else can be dead wrong wahhaahaha
the fanfic writer in me will clutch on to the fanon Elder names
they can pry that off from my cold dead hands
my preciouss

bru
Bryg
Bryg?
Wuts dat?
Me sneepy
Ping the anser plz
Oh and manta theories
I need more manta theories
Oh and the mods can delete the fanon names outta my muted account
Of course im jk, plz dont mute me mods...
Its still the middle of the day here btw... dont hesitate from pinging me
A sneeping lorechat is a lonely place
Tbh maybe we should start calling them this
They do look more like coelacanths than whales
Ye... its a misnomer
But comon names r common names...
After all, thats why we have the scientific names and the classification system
idc im calling them coelacanths now
Halloooooo
Mk
Yay~~~
Let me just think of some Manta theories
After 30 minutes later
Lmaoooo
Uhhh
Can y'all tell me how to activate that thing at the end of the race to get that blue butterfly?
Wot
You mean the spirit orb that appears after you complete a race?
I think #questions-and-help would be able to help you quicker and that's more of a question for that channel
We didnt need to get the blue butter btw
ye..... it just is....
all the butterflies there are blue...
Yep!
I need it bc it's kind of something I got for the lore--
I'm n a lore moff--
Mmm ya need to get those spirits in the flying race
Lore Moff Doc (ESSENTIAL, credits to Bricky)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing
The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :))
Here
yes
Hello
I want to ask one single question
Is there any way that happy ending somehiw exists
?
/annnnnnd, i mean, being reborn is pretty happy i guess?
Where red crystals are falling constantly, nonstop
There is a thinglie you can light, that most of the times open a door or so
... So I was extremely curious
/uh, statues?
No like the light shrine idk its name
/ohhh maybe provide a pic?
/i think we're are refering to different things in stormlock ( rock rain place)
we have to die
that's literally our mission
the more peaceful ending for our skid is we leave the game for a while(or maybe forever)
There is one
there is one
In the middle of it
It was possible to not die in beta, but not anymore lol
but we normally don't have enough energy to light it
Wut????!!!!!
well
what's the most wings you have
How?
Ok folks manta theories manta theories
like your current amount of wings right now
Sime sort of ascended wings are in beta
We need to start production on episode 6 now... lol
Some*
mantas eat butterflies
Ok... plz elborate lol
/okay
/but like you wont have enough light
/ohhhhhh
/instant recharge might do
Yeee
that's where the instant recharge comes in
WAIT
Folks...
Fr

t h e c i r c l e o f l i f e
ok normally we don't see butterflies near mantas
Ye...
must have some rivalry or something
So u r saying that mantas eat butterflies to recharge?
But butterflies r far away from most light creatures cuz they were placed where there was no light... like... nutterflies arent next to mantas purposefully... lol
The spirits did that intentionally... the placing pots in light creature-less places...
Thats why butterflies were farmed lol...
forest has some butterflies too
Ye
wait
I was thinking about the bridges area
So u r saying butterflies are intentionally killed by mantas cuz of rivalry?
For wut?
ahhhh should have said that sooner
no they eat butterflies to be bigger
I think when they are larger they can even eat birbs
Oh... yea... currently we r going with each size is a different species
;-;
welp we gonna throw this all away then
Oh qnd when the mantas emerge from the clouds they are fully mature and without a pygmy manta stage and canon livestreams confirm the emerging from clouds thing is how they r born...
So... welp...
Srry...
wait what
Ye...its tru
I thought they went from water-
Nah
The one abt where creatures come from
I dont watch it either... this is from the canon doc
Canon doc quote from livestream lol
huh...
So our current theory is that mantas get a progress wipe when they r reborn and they stay underwater till they intellectually mature but not physically
Born in clouds, then jump straight into water lol
megan really did that huh.
Ikr?
Here's a tip...
Make up smth shocking and then find evidence in game to support it lol
can ancestors even finish cloud race
I know a boat can't fit through
so I place my bet on mantas
Maybe the flying race used to be a manta chariot or riding race
And ppl used to bet on the mantas lol
manta race.
Like u said
Ikik kalm down lol
they just nmooooooom
Lets hope they dont kidnao spectators lol
Orrrr
Maybe they did
Nope
They didnt
They dont kidnap us loo
"manta 5 is at first place!"
""wait...manta 1 is catching up!Can it win the race?"
- s w e a t i n g*
i wish we got a cutscene showing a spirit riding a manta...
or maybe they're trained not to kidnap ppl
lmao
Ok more theories lol
manta race manta race manta raceeee
They were prob just selectively bred not to be able to host stasis sparks
Ok more manta theories
also the mantas seems to attracted to us. whenever i walk on forest a manta always appeared from the earth and flying around me even when my wedges are full-
and that time i actually honk to two mantas and they actually honked back-
whil stopping mid air
Why do u think that happens?
imagine a person makes a Cars edit but instead put mantas in
forest manta arent big enough to kidnap us so they talk to us in hope to distract us from our main quest-
Nah (confirmed)
or they just like light
light warm
forest cold
Light creatures try to help us
/they kidnapped us like horrible suckers they are!
look at how many times they got stuck in lanterns
they still cute tho :<
poor creatures got so cold ;-;
and how many times they goes g l i t c h on air
shhhhhh we only hate on prairie manta
And vault summit cosmic mantas
I remember doing that when I'm cold
vault mantas are cool
nah I love them lol
but i hope they stop pushing me from reaching the candles-
Keep em coming folks more theories and ping me
why we only see one manta in orbit-
is there a manta that follow us from the start until the end?
likw, i believe that smol manta keep appearing whenever i go
and its the same size manta
megan didnt wnat us to end up like the prince so she send a manta to guard us
Manta god mother lol
and it got krilled
naaaa
probably it got tired of our shenanigans
as ghost manta
so it told the krill to make a scene
'for megan sake stop playing with the krills i just die to protect you-'
I think not
I think it went straight to ascension and wait for us there
Ok more real theories ppl... fewer pot cracking
mantas seems to fly around in group
but the bigger the mantas the more they seek solitude
potcrack is in my name
well just crack
but you know what I meant-
crack
how can crack and
theories
not go with eachother
is this what forbidden love feels like
also there seems to be another migration happen other than ours
i mean
the god is bird so makes sense why birbs are everywhere
hey wasteland have birbs too
wait where

there used to be birds in wasteland
I mean,, there's birds hanging out in Ark
yeah but pre-ark
the entrance to battlefield from graveyard, you know how theres this weird swirl that goes towards it? it used to be birds
So what are we talking about today-
Maybe the krills ate them

Also hi-
truly hungry for light
Helloo 
Did i come at the wrong time-
its quite dead right now
good god battlefield
in battlefield there's really one immediate topic that comes to mind and that's the Two Shield Theory- basically just whatever's caused the war in Wasteland
but Vault is a broader subject
Mhm
What if the battle happened because some people wanted to find out what was in vault
Since it holds the knowledge of all the realms
Tis possible- this could be one of the reasons why Archive was trashed
And the Archives is the most forbidden of places in Vault
Tis safe to assume that the Archives held dangerous yet valuable information- but whatever information that could have been is a mystery of its own
If the motivation for the war really was Archives then whoever was on the revolting side won
that's a big if btw don't quote me on that-
Well we know that the cutscenes of the elders affect the world somehow
So how did they get it-
Because the door-
Dosent look damaged
But ill go check
Idk what the cutscenes have to do with that-
They must have like broken in or something
But the door dosent have like a huge hole in it or anything
So they either opened the door somehow
Or-
Maybe they had a mole in Vault? But then if there was then there should have been signs of someone breaking out from Vault itself
Hm
Hi
It's kind of weird that the Archives would be chock full of signs of someone trashing it
But the outside of Vault looks fine
Also heya Meow
Hi
...wait does it though
hi
E
Imagine saying hi
Yea, looks pretty broken to me-
L
After the cutscene at the summit, we get transported to the real Vault
ok ok folks bac to lore
Yep
And THAT Vault is trashed
Ok bye
Very
manta theories... come on ppl we can do this...
pyre we'll ping you if we come up with any
does it necessarily have to be one specific creature btw like
what if someone wants to discuss a creature you've already gone over-
oh well- we'll discuss what we please regardless
Theres always room for more theories
Pyre is doing the creatures one by one
Yep- so in a way you're never really done with the creatures you've already gone over

So anyway, vault
Ah well- it'll be no problem if we can just ping you about it
if u make a theory on an animal we have gone over, i will adapt it and add it to the script lol.. but if we have not covered it yet, plz wait... i beg u
Our curiosity can't possibly hold out until you give the go-ahead for krill m8
Lol
i thought all hell would break loose at mantas but i-its super quiet...T.T
Ill think about it
Tis why I asked why it had to be one creature at a time
Besides, i like krillies more than mantas
Not really- we'll ping you if any creature theories come up
It's not gonna be all chaotic if they had say- different sections right?
You don't have to worry
ye ye i`ll sort it all dont worry abt me
just shower me with animal theories
how do mantas sleep?
are the glowing things on their top and bottom their eyes?
do they need to sleep because they always just seem to be moving
why do they have mouths?
ohhh so they sleep like sharks?
Were the ones in Sanctuary dormant before we summoned them, or were they generated?
oh those just lived under the sea but we dragged em out
come to think of it why are they always just arriving when we ring bells of all things
Maybe it was a signal to tell them it was safe to come out?
the bells mimic the sound of their species.. i think...
and they think its another herd
heyo theorists, what is the topic of today?
The Prairie Elder poem suggests he was a protector of light creatures so maybe the bells were his doing?
Mantas apparently-
mantas... im begging u...

mantas...
Bells in Prairie summon mantas- and there are professions in Prairie that are dedicated to building bells
yes yes interesting....
so it was prairie
I think- that's kind of what I think anyway- look at me being desperate to fit Sanc into lore-
then again the Sanc guide has a manta cape- but I have an alternative thought to the 'it's made of baby mantas' theory
Maybe he wears it so he could interact better with the mantas?
so.. if i sum it up,
the scientists in the daylight prairie designed specific bells to correlate with each species` call to summon them like taxies...
Theres a theory that it made of what-
yeahhh that was the immediate conclusion when it came to the manta cape
That it was made out of an actual manta
Irl, mantas carry other fish so-
right back at ya bro? sis? them? wutever u identify with...
Jello hair and manta cape—
just them thanks-
ok
I mean- maybe they weren't necessarily made out of the things they're supposed to represent
You know how sometimes people attempt to be more like the animals they're taming to try and get close to them
they are meade of light as if they were molecules...(confirmed)
looks at real life
and yknow i only say confimed when im sure
I think that's what's happening with Sanc guide and Jelly Whisperer
huh... yeeeeessss
To tame a jello, be a jello
orrrrrr
To tame crabs- be crabs
or,
they killed the corresponding species` alphas and wear it like a trophy and so the mantas and jellies follow them...
to tame manta- you don't need to do anything they'll kidnap you either way
...I'll just stick with my less gruesome interpretation-
crab dancing doesnt work? does it?
ye me too now im gonna have nighmares lol
man it probably didn't work out for Crab Call Lady
Nope but it was worth a shot-
then again we don't have like- a crab cosmetic yet-
maybe it only works if we look like crab
huh.. ye...
with 8 legs
have y'all ever thought about the fact that they might had of used some sort of spells to the bells?
The manta drawings probably
remember, crabs in sky are not even remotely related to irl crabs.. just their names
Yup
Also the rune-like stuff engraved on them (u can see the deets in the pins)
Would a manta respond to an enchanted bell- of course it will-
There are tame crabs tho.
They're not tame crabs, they're uncorrupted iirc
the tame crabs are a weird case but I think Pyre can explain that better with symbiote theory
Me repeatedly manta honking in prairie dosent work
We're enchanted but we ain't bells-
I kind of lean on the spells too now that you mentioned the engravings
Manta: swoops when u don't want it to
Because there's other bells in the realms that don't really function the same way
Like the ones in the Forest bridge
cosmetic manta hink could call one but it normally doesn't work most of the times
Ye
that probably summon jellies instead idk
oh yes pretty much
There's a canon dev quote that leans on that
I never understood how the Vault works
I'm not sure who said it first, but once we talked about Vault and there was a point where you could have either fallen asleep or just fell into a dream
Around 3rd floor, but 2nd floor is sus too
Because notice how the structure just kind of becomes literal space
Someone said that the lanterns were probably the ones that caused us to be able to witness the dream in Vault
Theres a lot of mantas to talk about-
Is it the mechanism thing that brought us into the dream or did the Vault elder do something to us?
Considering the Vault Elder's busy in limbo I sorta doubt it's all her doing
keyword- all-
XD
It still doesn't really makes sense tho
Vault trippy
Yea
man I'm convinced we were probably under a gas or smthn and we were just hallucinating after the 2nd floor
They built multiple shrines inside of the dream (?)
Spirits/ normal people could apparently enter it anytime before
and-
I gtg now, i'll ping when i find a theory on mantas. See ya
heck i forgot my points already
But wait- how do we enter Eden if Vault was a dream? Is Eden also a dream?
Nah- notice how after the Vault Elder cutscene, we're transported to a vault that doesn't look quite right
You can't just fall asleep somewhere and waking up at a different place unless someone or something carried you-
Some people think that it's the real Vault, and that the blue-ish, dreamy, space Vault is someplace else, but ultimately just not that real
Though I've seen the Eden is a dream theory here somewhere too
i can't recount it that well tho-
So the GW just has a gate to a dream
haha thx...@hushed steeple, the tame crabs are so far away from other crabs so the isolation causing evolution thing is wuts happening.. the tame crabs didnt egt dust compatible while the others did....
Because if that's true, then the entirety of the vault we got to see was a dream, the 2 player doors also led us to a spacey area which doesn't seem very real
transporters lol
Archives at least is an established place that we know existed even before the fall of the Kingdom
somehow it ALSO has the weird trippy space floor
more like induced hallucination
Archives existed before then as a place of forbidden knowledge and no one was allowed to enter
I now headcanon that the Vault elder and her scholars do drugs
oh yes me too
oml-
but like everyone who goes into vault is doing drugs too
drugs are in the air
remeber the happy clouds in SU?
oh yes
as i keep telling u, lamed IS blue diamond lol
Maybe it's drug stars/lights in Vault
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO HAS THE SAME THOUGHTS-
Blue diamond is Teth and Lamed fused together 
ok bacc to mantas
Oh right- Pyre the other day I came up with something of a crackpot creature theory
really
guess I missed out a lot
Tis probably best if I DM'd it so gimme a sec
imagine going up on the elevator and say:"yo come here and drink this floaty light juice"
fLOATY LIGHT JUICE AJHSJHAJ
is Acolyte the only sober one since she's on the bottom floor
Lmaoo
or would she be the most drunk- wait are we allowed to talk about that kind of thing here
then again we did go an entire segment with that manta juice thing
ye... but even guns arent allowed here... sooo
uhhhh
we can call them light juice
I think we can keep going until someone comes in and stop us-
Ok back to loring
Did we actually get to see any stars in game that’s not an elder’s domain? The ones in Vault felt artificial to me and homespace is weird
That’s also technically not in the living realm anymore???
I think think we’ve seen stars at all in the normal sky realm
Only in Elder’s domains, Homespace and orbit. None of them are in the Sky realm except i guess Homespace
That’s a lowkey interesting detail tbh

The darkness plants are from living creatures that has been corrupted??? Affected by darkness
yes
Nani
Okay so listen
symbiote theory go brrrr
Remember the tearful light miner's memories?
ye...
You know, i always imagine... if skid are indeed made of wax...
And candles are made of wax...
What if when we collect waxes the wax become our skin, and then we shed it off and made candles from it
that's lowkey horrifying
One of their team had a plant grow from them
and then we give it to dead people for their clothes
We give our skin to the spirits
That’s a horrifying mental image but it’s better then having the image of forest mama laying eggs
The balls inside the spirit that we burn are forming darkness plants
man all that pixiv fanart is coming way too true to form
Not just those
Fragments of spirits too
The quest did counted it as darkness plant
See the spirit in the middle bell island in prairie villages
Here's your visual aid
Thamk you
There's a part of his memories where u have to burn darkness plants to free a spirit fragment
man if all this time all those plants that we've been burning are all just corpses
is this advanced recycling
Okay lemme get to that
I still don’t get how skids can see ghosts
huh...
wait wait wait buiding on that.... i have a more evolved theory...
wait a hot second
The reason why we get wax when we burn darkness plants is because we're basically getting the light that the plants ate from the living creatures
maybe darkness plants are like mushrooms, but they grow on living things too
IS THIS WHERE CANDLEMAKER GETS HIS W A X FROM
DOES HE MAKE HIS CANDLES FROM DARK PLANTS
It's TECHNICALLY a natural source of wax
yes exactly... or at least the light part of it... the wax need to forge the candle is just palnt oil for the candle lol
So the bells had light in them?
Or maybe
He got skid farms 
skids were made after the fall
CANDLEMAKER W H Y0 YOU WERE MY FAVORITE SPIRIT
a long time after the fall
true but the sentiment stands
those dark plants are possibly corpses
See: ushering star gazer
No no, not corpses
Well technically
It's more like..
They eat the living creature from inside out
Imagine if one of these days the plants becomes more sentient like a venus flytrap
Oh no
god no that's morbid on so many levels
See: the whale skeleton in Forest boneyard

so darkness plants are where candlemaker gets his wax from and those may or may not have killed a man
You gonna make an AU with it? 
Interesting that only elder's spirits that consumed by darkness
beautiful-
You bet i am
And im gonna make it EXTRA ANGST
You mind if im using that for my AU-
The plants have grown randomly in walls and things are maybe fragments of spirits that were supposed to ascend, but they got trapped (see the yawning spirit in Prairie) they're supposed to be flying around (see the spirit with collect the fragments of light mechanic in Valley Citadel)
Sky but it's deadlier than usual
Please do-
Does it sound convincing? Hhh
lore fodder for the brain is yummy
Their spirit s c a t t e r
It does actually- it's kind of weird how some spirits are just... weird in how they're making you relive their memories
stares at ceremonial worshippers
man i wish we got a spirit that riding mantas on the cutscene-
I wanna see manta race :(
Manta Call: wa o- I'm everywhere :DDDDD
Dang shower thoughts rlly are another level 
Got me thinking
Maybe manta race is like a high class entertainment? While skate is more for middle to low class 
You discord while shower? 
all of my brain cells are picky and will only work in the middle of my bathroom breaks
I was just sitting in the shower like
🚿
the toilet is the altar of knowledge everyone knows this-
No I thought of the idea while I was in the shower hhhh
When I tell yall I rUSHED when I hit that idea
Nyoomed here
Dont forget to dry yourself first-
speaking of coming up with shower thoughts I need to try and write up a theory about those cursed Ceremonial Worshippers
just- why do you guys exist-
The water just evaporate while we playing sky under the shower
the water pulls a moses and parts simply to let you play this glorious game
Kettle water 
Oooooohh add leaves while you're at it
Listen listen
An AU where all elders and most of the good things have been replaced by horrifying things
I specifically have this idea where the Hidden Forest is called the Woodlands and nobody knows what happens to those that enters it
Some say that the forest elder is in there, waiting and calling the skids to come to her, some aren’t even sure if she existed at all
Those that enters the Woodlands never comes back out, it’s thought that they either died or have found the elder’s light
Some skids would tell others stories about how they would see a feminine figure holding an umbrella that has a latern attached to it, the latern’s light is oddly intriguing to them and they would feel dawn to it
That feminine figure would stare at them for awhile before stepping back into the fogs, her eyes shining malice a cyan color before disappearing completely
Also i believe there is another ancension happen other than ours
Here's some mango leaves for u Boop 🤲🌿🌿🌿
Azulii what if the Forest Elder was like- concept Forest Elder-
She was scary back then too ajshjahjshhaj
she had more l e g
Ooh ye I was about to mention djeneje
Since we are children of the light... and i believe child of light is the leader of ancension...
Maybe tehre is a reason why this game titled as children instead of only child
That’s just an AU where present forest elder got killed by the concept one to which she now says “yeah come to me I’m totally your forest mama totallyyyy”
Likely, there are other ancension happens other than ours, lead by another children of lights
Seems this to be megan's way to restore her power
man it's only like 9 pm over here but Imma conk out



