How do light creatures become bigger is my question, how do they evolve? They can’t use spells, and if they can’t reborn into a new shape and form since they too collect light.
#lore-discussion-spoilers
rugged star
livid valley
our soul went into the death room
teal orbit
How do light creatures become bigger is my question, how do they evolve? They ca...
natural selection and they r all fully mature.. they dont grow
rugged star
Me doing a confusion
supple sluice
Hm... True, but... I think that'd be too labor intensive and honestly i think the elders would listen to the king...
That and... Why was vault completely unharmed?
rapid juniper
Wait no I had a question on why they started the war in gw
livid valley
the weird child give us light and a beam appeared
rugged star
Is that confirmed? Okay im missing smthing here
supple sluice
If the war moved into eden they'd have to fight in the Vault of knowledge
teal orbit
Wait no I had a question on why they started the war in gw
thats the whole theory
livid valley
i am guessing this is the bean that bring us to orbit
thorny folio
Oh wait shoot sorry I thought you were someone else
rapid juniper
I’m really confursddkekejdkdjdkdmdmdmkdkdkdkkd
thorny folio
I’m really confursddkekejdkdjdkdmdmdmkdkdkdkkd
Wait no you asked what the ascension beam is
rapid juniper
Oh ok
rugged star
natural selection and they r all fully mature.. they dont grow
Is that confirmed? Did i miss smthing?
teal orbit
Hm... True, but... I think that'd be too labor intensive and honestly i think th...
its like one of those places that ppl arent allowed to bomb during wars...yknow?
plus.. vault has all the records of their history and tech...
supple sluice
And... Well, Golden wasteland and Valley are canonically connected, right? Likr they were one area? So i think the war only started between valley and wasteland?
thorny folio
This has been a trip 
keen spire
by leaning stars, i meant in the corridor there are sitting stars instead of standing, and theres a lot of em
lethal stump
afaik this is all pyre’s theorizing rn, @rugged star
supple sluice
its like one of those places that ppl arent allowed to bomb during wars...yknow?...
I still think that vault would refuse to let anyone enter just to head to Eden and fight, that's... Frankly really strange planning
thorny folio
thinking about Eden and Valley being sister cities
teal orbit
Is that confirmed? Did i miss smthing?
i heard here that "they dont grow" and "they r mature" r heavily implied in confirmations
rapid juniper
Nothing lakakmamama
teal orbit
I still think that vault would refuse to let anyone enter just to head to Eden a...
vault is a smol unarmed tower.... ther r others way up a mountain u know....
keen spire
also, why do other creatures look like earth creatures, but a whale is,,,,,, a weird roll
teal orbit
tgc
rapid juniper
Cuz its sky
thorny folio
I still think that vault would refuse to let anyone enter just to head to Eden a...
Maybe they could climb the physical mountain - and if the krill war machine theory is true, ride those
keen spire
lmaooooo
rugged star
By the people who made it? They confirmed that mantas dont grow?
livid valley
anyway id like to think that since valley architecture is really luxurious the architects decided that the castle would fit it very nicely
supple sluice
I mean, yes, in real life people did pass through other areas... But shouldn't the Wasteland temple be more wrecked if it's a passing point for the war?
And... There is no other way through eden...
teal orbit
Maybe they could climb the physical mountain - and if the krill war machine theo...
not machines (confirmed) but they had flying boats and trained krill
supple sluice
Unless if... Eden collapsed during the war while they were fighting
keen spire
or maybe they come from the same time period so their architecture is similar
rapid juniper
Maybe gw elder and the king had war and the king won and put propaganda in gw elders realm?(dont worry I don’t agreee with myself)
supple sluice
But also... If that's the case there should be way more weapons and stuff in eden!
thorny folio
not machines (confirmed) but they had flying boats and ***trained*** krill
I used “war machine” to mean created/trained for battle
teal orbit
Unless if... Eden collapsed during the war while they were fighting
did u seriously not read my theory?
i wrote exactly wut u said.....
rugged star
...
teal orbit
I used “war machine” to mean created/trained for battle
then yes but not created...(confirmed)
supple sluice
Look I'm really smoothed brain right now-
thorny folio
But also... If that's the case there should be way more weapons and stuff in ede...
There are a lot of spears
supple sluice
I just believe that Eden only has weapons cus people tried going through there...
rugged star
Have you guys noticed that there are a lot of boats in each realm except I believe vault?
haughty talon
But also... If that's the case there should be way more weapons and stuff in ede...
All destroyed I guess.. There are some on the way though (2nd door with a cutscene)
livid valley
the weapons mustve been blown away by the winds into the deep dark areas
keen spire
maybe they all got disintegrated from the rocks 
supple sluice
To fix the diamond /ascension spear /whatever the heck the end of eden is!
teal orbit
maybe they all got disintegrated from the rocks <:pThink:651221480096661506>
the rocks r pieces of the ascension beam emmitor...
keen spire
ah.
rugged star
There are boats in every realm except the (maybe) vault and eden - why? Some have crashed while others are buried
icy spruce
Have you guys noticed that there are a lot of boats in each realm except I belie...
Aren't there boats in Vault? Just buried?? Or am I imagining things-
rugged star
idk
icy spruce
ok
rugged star
I cant remember tbh
icy spruce
same
teal orbit
vault has that super slow elevator
icy spruce
yes
keen spire
wait there are boats in forest??? i cant think of it rn
rapid juniper
Yes
supple sluice
Cuz... Eden is a really inconvenient battle ground... It's steep, windy, and sure! The person at the top has a huge advantage, but... That would be the king, no? Which side would the king be on?
rugged star
Ye
keen spire
can someone remind me where
supple sluice
Unless if the king died or something?
icy spruce
everywhere, just buried
teal orbit
and eden`s high winds r unsuitable for boats
haughty talon
can someone remind me where
Immediately after u open the first gate
keen spire
huh my memory is really failing me rn
rugged star
But what I want to know is why are boats in ruins? How the heck did they get in there and WHY build around the boats???
teal orbit
there is a dock
keen spire
but thanks ahaha
thorny folio
Cuz... Eden is a really inconvenient battle ground... It's steep, windy, and sur...
The king would def have the advantage, but there’s only one power beam
thorny folio
/ whoever controls Eden
supple sluice
Yeah, and...
thorny folio
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
thorny folio
I JUST DISCOVERED TAVLE FLIP
supple sluice
Oh
rugged star
All the realms were once filled with water till the islands started to float and flourish with land
supple sluice
KH
thorny folio
hmm unsure
icy spruce
I JUST DISCOVERED TAVLE FLIP
ye
livid valley
ok...
thorny folio
ver. Egg he’s the bad guy but that’s just me
supple sluice
WOULDN'T KING BE LIKE- FIGHTING FOR USING THE BEAM??
teal orbit
ok...
rapid juniper
WOULDN'T KING BE LIKE- FIGHTING FOR USING THE BEAM??
Well his son used the beam
rugged star
Wait wait
supple sluice
Cus if he was for it he wouldn't use eden to protect the beam
thorny folio
WOULDN'T KING BE LIKE- FIGHTING FOR USING THE BEAM??
So the people storming would be anti-beam
haughty talon
So the people storming would be anti-beam
People as in ancestors (spirits) or elders?
livid valley
anit beam people are the ones who dont want to get send to orbit?
supple sluice
.... If you die in eden but not in the point of no return do you see the winged light? Or the other light boy?
rapid juniper
Yes but I think the beam was the diamond in eye of eden storms
queen jungle
GUYS GUYS GUYS! SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT
https://child-of-daylight.tumblr.com/post/636452531708608512/hmmmm-familiar
thorny folio
People as in ancestors (spirits) or elders?
ancestors? Wait why are spirits and ancestors different. One is alive and one is dead?
keen spire
OMG HOW DID I NOT SEE THAT
supple sluice
Cuz if you see the light boy maybe the ppl who died in this war in eden got right into orbit?
thorny folio
lightbulb moment that’s so cool
rapid juniper
GUYS GUYS GUYS! SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT
https://child-of-daylight.tumblr.com/post...
Yes I noticed that to but I dont wanna make it a theory when I first saw it
rapid juniper
Yes
queen locust
GUYS GUYS GUYS! SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT
https://child-of-daylight.tumblr.com/post...
yep- pretty much-
rapid juniper
No a lot
rugged star
Wait, the clouds in some areas are the “water” (which is funny since clouds carry water), anyways, there are water in some areas in each realm (i think) - floating islands are also a thing, as well with infinite source of water - How? Why? Water = light? Light = creation? Creation = Megabird?
Am doing damage to my brain send help
queen locust
Both realms produced diamonds
supple sluice
... Would that mean... Wasteland elder was originally just a really religious dude?
queen jungle
This is my first time noticing this.
haughty talon
So wasteland and forest were on the bottom/foothills of Valley mountains?
supple sluice
Cuz he's got 3 freaking temples
keen spire
but wait, the forest leads to this pretty clearing with water n stuff, but wasteland has a totally different landscape how would that work
thorny folio
Wait, the clouds in some areas are the “water” (which is funny since clouds carr...
Idek bro
queen locust
heck welcome to the party then XD
rapid juniper
I noticed it when I was a moth but I-
icy spruce
GUYS GUYS GUYS! SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT
https://child-of-daylight.tumblr.com/post...
Oh ye, that one. Well, pretty sure Forest and GW are diamond factories lol.
queen locust
but wait, the forest leads to this pretty clearing with water n stuff, but waste...
Land was cleared to make way for the factories
Maybe burnt a whole forest down while they were at it
rugged star
I want
supple sluice
Yeah, and i guess the first temple was destroyed in a war?
So they made s newer one that's definitely more barren
icy spruce
Maybe burnt a whole forest down while they were at it
yes, maybe. Though, most likely.
rapid juniper
Yes
queen locust
There's a mural that would point to that actually- Wasteland having been a forest once
rugged star
I want to know how there is an endless waterfalls in the Sky World, is it because clouds carry water? but some of the islands are far away, magic? Probably
It’s 2am and I’m questioning life and the world of Sky
keen spire
oooh can i see the mural if you can find it
rugged star
queen jungle
I wonder if the same temple appears in other realms.
haughty talon
but wait, the forest leads to this pretty clearing with water n stuff, but waste...
I mean forest leads to Valley.. We fly up.. From Valley we go down for wasteland. Just so happens we go from Valley to gw. May be earlier people used to travel from gw and forest to Valley
queen locust
yeah gimme a sec-
rapid juniper
Sneep
teal orbit
im exhausted lol
rapid juniper
Go sneep
queen locust
queen jungle
Or if Forest and Wasteland are like.. two halves of the same whole?
queen locust
Here's your mural of not Forest- but Wasteland
rugged star
Wait there could be another reason for the krills
rapid juniper
Yes so u go sneep
thorny folio
There's a mural that would point to that actually- Wasteland having been a fores...
What about ark tho? We got flowers and prairie /grassland back when it was restored
rapid juniper
Lmoaoaooaoaoaooaoaoaoaoaooaoa
teal orbit
hhhhh yes
queen locust
livid valley
what
queen locust
observe the silhouettes of the temples
teal orbit
dang thats a full arsenal
supple sluice
What about ark tho? We got flowers and prairie /grassland back when it was resto...
The enchanters probs did stuff with the orbs of light...
O-
OH
queen locust
Ark is pretty out of the way
rapid juniper
Yeyeyyeyys
queen jungle
Ooo
teal orbit
here`s my theory for the lights
queen locust
PLUS they had magical intervention
thorny folio
OH I ASSUMED THAT WAS THE FOREST TEMPLE THIS WHOLE TIME
rugged star
Shadows = are all born from the darkness when the king/prince became corrupted. The king/prince uses the Shadows as his guards to patrol the area, and makes them hit us to lessen our wing light thing - so we don’t survive the storm so we don’t reach him. :0
keen spire
i..... do not see it
queen locust
OH I ASSUMED THAT WAS THE FOREST TEMPLE THIS WHOLE TIME
you're welcome I kinda had to run for that
keen spire
pls explain someone
teal orbit
so the lightseekers brought lights from each realm to vault and they filled these lights with elemental essense lol
is my theory
thorny folio
Ark is pretty out of the way
Also remembered that the forest clearing without rain had flowers so I withdraw my objections
Yes thank you!!
rugged star
Bruh, this is the biggest brain thonking ive ever done
supple sluice
Hmmm... Vault... Why vault?
rapid juniper
so the lightseekers brought lights from each realm to vault and they filled thes...
Hm it can be
supple sluice
Vault does have the most magic
teal orbit
cuz.. lightseekers cutscene
queen jungle
Compare the mural to the silhouette of the buildings, @keen spire.
teal orbit
end cutscene
haughty talon
Seems familiar.. Forest gate?
thorny folio
end cutscene
Link??
teal orbit
i dont have it
keen spire
ohhhhh
thorny folio
Seems familiar.. Forest gate?
Wasteland also has those big broken pillars
supple sluice
I never paid attention to the cutscene
thorny folio
Ok I’ll try and find it brb
supple sluice
But... Where were they headed?
livid valley
Shadows = are all born from the darkness when the king/prince became corrupted. ...
shadow only exist in trials so its not possible
rugged star
WAIT WAIT wait, who do those jars on the shelves in the vault belong to?
obtuse lark
Wait sorry to interrupt the current discussion but saw this on Instagram and found it interesting lmao
queen locust
somehow we circle back to season talk and I have no regrets
obtuse lark
AHAKAJAJAHA
rugged star
Could be daughter and mother or mother and daughter
queen jungle
Omg
queen locust
Possibly a former member of the Rhythm troupe?
rugged star
Im doing guesses now
queen locust
Could explain the daughter's ambition to perform
obtuse lark
I mean maybe the shapes at the bottom of the eyes are different
rugged star
It 2am am doing a thinking
obtuse lark
Could explain the daughter's ambition to perform
Oh TRUEEE
queen jungle
Also, I just noticed.
haughty talon
What is the small temple /structure on top of the wasteland temple?
keen spire
maybe eden? idk
teal orbit
where is that
queen jungle
Oh that's the spire wAAAAAAY up there.
queen locust
What is the small temple /structure on top of the wasteland temple?
My only guess is Vault- seeing as that's the only structure after Wasteland that isn't Eden
queen jungle
A group of friends and I climbed it once.
obtuse lark
Ooooh
teal orbit
What is the small temple /structure on top of the wasteland temple?
right?
queen locust
A broken temple area beyond the Temple?
teal orbit
thats depicting gw not hf?
heady locust
What's poppin bois?
teal orbit
im confused
queen jungle
It's like... a big spire. I'd show it but I'd have to run Wasteland and hhhh
livid valley
What's poppin bois?
bubbles
queen locust
It's GW- you can compare the silhouettes, and Forest temple is nothing like the temple depicted in the mural
heady locust
queen jungle
Listen, it's the spire on top of the last temple.
supple sluice
What's poppin bois?
My sanity bubble
teal orbit
oh and folks, i have a cool new theory i would like to share withyall
thorny folio
What's poppin bois?
Too much
queen jungle
Or behind.
thorny folio
oh and folks, i have a cool new theory i would like to share withyall
Go on 
heady locust
supple sluice
teal orbit
ok here goes
supple sluice
OKAY OKAY MOVING ON
queen jungle
I
teal orbit
if u look at the forest temple from far away, birds r streaming into it....
do u guys fell where this is going?
keen spire
oh like after graveyad?
supple sluice
?
supple sluice
Idk, The isle elder sent the bird to show the pathway
queen jungle
Ah yes, the inexplicable light shining from the entrance to Battlefield.
supple sluice
That's why they're there
teal orbit
wut if.... the temple was built in the way of the bird migration path so that the factory could have an endless supply of light creatures
queen jungle
Oh
supple sluice
... Hm!
thorny folio
I...that’s so dark but maybe
queen jungle
I mean, people died. And Eden exists.
supple sluice
Yea
queen jungle
Wouldn't be out of the question!
thorny folio
Yea true
rugged star
I wonder if the king has kidnapped anyone
supple sluice
And we know they can get dark with stories too!
Wasteland elder was supposed to die and.... Yall have seen the tearful light miner-
thorny folio
Probably
haughty talon
I wonder if the king has kidnapped anyone
Prince of Persia story cross over?
queen locust
i leave for five seconds- what are we talking about-
thorny folio
The king has DEFINITELY kidnapped someone. Have you sene him?
rugged star
No
thorny folio
i leave for five seconds- what are we talking about-
Bird slaughter conveyor belt
teal orbit
now u have
supple sluice
Hmmm
rugged star
I wanna just go under the cloak and play hide and seek
queen jungle
Looks like a chess pawn.
rapid juniper
I-
supple sluice
Why does the king look like a sentient finger with a wedding ring that didn't want to see the bride and groom kiss
rugged star
Bet - there’s like a dungeon under the cloak or smthing
teal orbit
I wanna just go under the cloak and play hide and seek
the white van of sky
rugged star
Haha lol
teal orbit
the black cloak
rugged star
Pspspspsps, prince i got a crown pspspss
supple sluice
Pspspsp, prince I'll let you rule
rugged star
Pspspsps prince i got more light
teal orbit
hey prince, i got yummy butterflies here... wanna yeet?
come into the van cloak
rugged star
This what happens when Xyro talks in 2 in the morning
People trying to catch a prince
queen jungle
xD
queen locust
I'd say leave the kid alone but then again-
the kid has the powers of the forces of nature at his disposal
rugged star
Here prince-y, pspspsps I got a pretty staff and mask
queen locust
pspspsps hey Prenc want to get t a l l e r
rugged star
Lol
teal orbit
prince: dont you dare say that again!
rugged star
Pspspsps hey prince-y want a cool cape/cloak?
queen jungle
Ded
teal orbit
then u`d die
rugged star
If i was getting a cool cape or mask - you got me
supple sluice
Being taller and dying!?
Sign me up!
queen locust
hjshajhj just remembered I can't joke about that-
supple sluice
-o p
rugged star
Shhh
queen locust
anyway- what are we on again-
rugged star
But srsly tho - the king couldve kidnapped the prince if he look like that
Wait
Wait
teal orbit
the kig IS the prince....
rugged star
Is that his actual body tho?
teal orbit
no
rugged star
Or is a cape/cloak?
teal orbit
just a mech
supple sluice
I-
teal orbit
Or is a cape/cloak?
have u seen the lego movie?
queen locust
they offered him a mech problem solved
rugged star
Also - king is prince is not confirmed just theory
supple sluice
The prince made a new body to become taller XD
rugged star
=w=
supple sluice
I'd do that
queen locust
pspsps hey Prenc I've got a mech just jump into the van like a good King
rapid juniper
I-
rugged star
So what im hearing is that the king can look skinny or chubby
But what happens under it could be like shadow or the abyss
Like an alien movie thing
thorny folio
I’m watching the old season cutscenes again and feeling lonely
rugged star
o-o
teal orbit
I’m watching the old season cutscenes again and feeling lonely
then gen chat is your place
rugged star
His body be made out of shadows and darkness
willow bear
I think next instrument to be added in Sky should be a 🎻, and maybe next the actual voice, so in the end we'll be able to play add Eden music together
rugged star
:0
thorny folio
then gen chat is your place
yeah prob but I am invested here
uncut bone
I think next instrument to be added in Sky should be a 🎻, and maybe next the ac...
Nah, saxophone all the way
rugged star
😏 ik what song to learn
queen jungle
This be lore lol
teal orbit
I think next instrument to be added in Sky should be a 🎻, and maybe next the ac...
ye they r not gonna add that i think... tgc is hell bent on not making long notes and yea...
rugged star
Be gone >:0
willow bear
Nah, saxophone all the way
Sax is good, but doesn't add up to the village & skate theme
hushed steeple
I just realized that krills have what look dust falling off them? Why is that?? (I didn’t know where else to put this)
rugged star
Shouldnt this be in Seasonal chat? Or like in another channel
teal orbit
read that
rugged star
o-o
icy spruce
It's the symbiotic theory
teal orbit
Think of them like made of a dark matter
dark matter is completely different...
icy spruce
hhhh
teal orbit
ye
uncut bone
oh that doc is a different one
uncut bone
dark matter is completely different...
oh?
icy spruce
dust
queen locust
depends on what context of dark matter we're using
willow bear
I just realized that krills have what look dust falling off them? Why is that?? ...
Same falls off from dark crabs & plants
teal orbit
more like blood clots
keen spire
oh thats why when our light gets drained we also get that dandruff thing
teal orbit
but the other way around
queen jungle
Oooo. Ya know, we have "dust" too.
queen locust
Like are we talking dark matter irl or dark matter as in literally matter made from darkness
uncut bone
Latter
teal orbit
oh
rugged star
Wait a min...
plucky sedge
Is there a theory on all the stuff on the cave walls in prophecy?
teal orbit
yes wait
uncut bone
I wouldn't be surprised if there was
rugged star
So the dark matter on the krills and crabs, SO CRABS AND KRILLS GOT THEIR LIGHT TAKEN AWAY BEFORE!?
OR
queen locust
Is there a theory on all the stuff on the cave walls in prophecy?
I've got an essay written by one of our regulars if you need it
uncut bone
Pyre you're nailing this
teal orbit
So the dark matter on the krills and crabs, SO CRABS AND KRILLS GOT THEIR LIGHT ...
they just arent compatible with sparks
queen locust
plucky sedge
I've got an essay written by one of our regulars if you need it
Yes please 👉🏽👈🏽
icy spruce
yes
queen locust
Here's the other in-depth doc-
rugged star
I took a crab into the light and started getting hurt
hushed steeple
still confused but ok
teal orbit
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/14uVgsmI5GTpanqaXUdLWZLg2ZLiP6FfGr44fZYi6...
thats... old.... and goes against a lot of our theories
but its cool
all theories r welcome
queen locust
thats... old.... and goes against a lot of our theories
They DID just ask for the Prophecy Murals- plus Butters updated it
teal orbit
rlly?
queen locust
Slightly, ye- after a few more discussions
teal orbit
did they get rid of the part abt the elements going haywire?
willow bear
I've just watched another episode of Avatar, which holds so much theory around power balance & spirits. We may also think of krills as "dark spirits" which game does not allow us to cure and make peaceful yet. Maybe another TGC game would do so
queen locust
did they get rid of the part abt the elements going haywire?
I mean, it's still a valid point
rugged star
I feel like the king created the krills to keep an eye on his territory so no one can shine light on him, or the krills hit us - the winged light doesn’t disappear but transfers to the diamond to make the king or prince live longer.
teal orbit
nah@willow bear krill r born naturally
queen locust
It's not like it's completely invalid just because it didn't show up in your Cozy Sky storytelling
teal orbit
@rugged star u too
queen jungle
You sure they're born naturally? they sound mechanical when we're too close.
rugged star
Oops didnt read that
thorny folio
nah<@!168696411083374592> krill r born naturally
Was that a confirmed thing or
teal orbit
It's not like it's completely invalid just because it didn't show up in your Coz...
oh ofcourse butter`s theory is valid there is nothing to disprove it i think its cool....
i was just asking...
rugged star
Yeah are krills born being naturally confirmed?
teal orbit
Was that a confirmed thing or
ye confirmed
queen locust
Ah well- let's just agree there's several takes on it
rugged star
Wha- where?
queen jungle
Where?
queen locust
wait a sec lemme pull up the quotes
Voluntary had a whole theory shock about just that yesterday
rugged star
They need to update the canon doc
willow bear
nah<@!168696411083374592> krill r born naturally
Well, if we add a bit of physics then krills just drains light for nothing. There must be some outgoing energy from them. And they can't be infinite dark because they have that blue light
teal orbit
they arent
at least in my theory
and blu light means nothing
just a light dud...
rugged star
Wait, if krills are naturally born - they somewhat guard and patrol the areas that is near to the diamond
teal orbit
or a cybernetic enhancement
teal orbit
Wait, if krills are naturally born - they somewhat guard and patrol the areas th...
they were trained for the war
in all versions of the tst
queen jungle
Blue light is probably there for the players benefit.
queen locust
I'm still dubious about the trained for war part
rugged star
they were trained for the war
Like this is all confirmed?
teal orbit
not that
queen locust
and I'm sure I've seen at least a handful of versions that didn't include krill at all
teal orbit
just widely accepted
queen locust
or at least- krill as BEASTS of war
rugged star
I don’t accept jt
teal orbit
ooook....
rugged star
Hmmm
teal orbit
krill r organic tho.. thats confirmed
rugged star
Wait i didnt mean to make it sound rude
queen locust
neither do I really- it's hard to believe that the krill would bow down to anyone
They're more of an independent existence if you ask me
willow bear
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT0THf_GFA3JBB-MOJBt0o23glBEAWUg6ewn...
That does not explain winged light which does not add up by "usual sparks" rather by "special light children"
teal orbit
That does not explain winged light which does not add up by "usual sparks" rathe...
wl isnt sparks...
thats just wl
rugged star
So krills are naturally born, but somewhat act as if they obey someone or it could be natural instincts
teal orbit
So krills are naturally born, but somewhat act as if they obey someone or it cou...
going in circles? i sure hope not
queen locust
I seriously doubt the 'obey' part
teal orbit
i seriously doubt the instinct part
willow bear
krill r organic tho.. thats confirmed
Krills might be "whales of poisoned water"
rugged star
I don’t know much about krills and their behaviour- bc as we see they circle around as well look out for people who are made out of light
thorny folio
Maybe they’re born naturally now, but the prairie elder creates life(the butterflies)
queen jungle
These are just theories. No need to say no like that.
rugged star
If they were trained for war - why are they now moving in circles?
thorny folio
So maybe he made them? And they were trained to protect the diamond
teal orbit
Maybe they’re born naturally now, but the prairie elder creates life(the butterf...
nah all creatures r born naturally... the butterflies r prob hatched with fire
teal orbit
Do whales have 2 eyes confirmed?
yes we see the eyes
lost spire
yes we see the eyes
Wheres the eyes
teal orbit
If they were trained for war - why are they now moving in circles?
they were trained to patrol the sector.. u sure u have read the tst?
teal orbit
Wheres the eyes
see for yourself in the bones
rugged star
I did! But I have bad memory
lost spire
Said that gw had war
queen locust
I can't blame them you guys throw around the TST too much
lost spire
Whos the enemy tho 👀
queen locust
WITH SEVERAL VERSIONS I MIGHT ADD
queen jungle
What is the TST? :0
rugged star
There is SEVERAL VERSIONS!?
queen locust
Two Shields Theory
thorny folio
yea
lost spire
Two shields theoryy
rugged star
This is just gonna confuse me
thorny folio
It’s ...........you don’t have to
lost spire
Just heard of them
thorny folio
Basically there’s a war between two factions and the how/why varies
rugged star
My head be doing a ache
queen locust
the gist of the TST is that basically there's two sides to the war in Golden Wasteland
rugged star
Ok
queen locust
Two designs on the shields we see scattered around- a sun shield and a diamond shield
thorny folio
My head be doing a ache
Take a break if necessary
lost spire
the gist of the TST is that basically there's two sides to the war in Golden Was...
Whos the enemy
queen jungle
I mean, isn't there usually two sides to an argument or a war?
queen locust
and then everyone went ham on what exactly they were fighting over
teal orbit
Whos the enemy tho 👀
the current version: idk but not lamed or tsadi
in older versions: daleth, ayin, and teth
queen locust
No one really knows
lost spire
the current version: idk but not lamed or tsadi
in older versions: daleth, ayin,...
Oh wow so theyre the one who brought krills to gw ?
thorny folio
It’s all a mess
queen locust
it's a giant mess
queen jungle
Also, there's not always an enemy.
queen locust
of interpretations
queen locust
Also, there's not always an enemy.
There doesn't HAVE to be an enemy- it's war, both sides believe they're right to some capacity
teal orbit
Light vs dark? King vs prince?
no theory has said that before cuz that goes agains the tst`s basis evidence
rugged star
There are boats in realms << could be supplies being dropped off or soldiers being deployed
teal orbit
There doesn't HAVE to be an enemy- it's war, both sides believe they're right to...
exactly...
thats how most modern tsts go
rugged star
HOLD ON
teal orbit
Oh wow so theyre the one who brought krills to gw ?
nah the other way around
queen locust
oh my god now we have MODERN TSTs-
rugged star
One of the spirits was in a boat with the butterfly jar thingies
lost spire
nah the other way around
👀
queen jungle
There doesn't HAVE to be an enemy- it's war, both sides believe they're right to...
I was just saying there's not always one because someone was asking if there was one.
thorny folio
I’m sorry I opened this can of worms lol
teal orbit
HOW DOES THE PRINCE LOOK LIKE
us but without light
queen locust
HOW DOES THE PRINCE LOOK LIKE
Basically a Skid but with a big ol' King head
or so the concepts say
teal orbit
go get your light extinguished @rugged star
rugged star
No
teal orbit
then u will see
rugged star
I have seen myself extinguished before =w=
teal orbit
oh ok
queen locust
I mean- they don't have to completely get extinguished
lost spire
the defenders trained the krill to patrol and defend
Oh wow
queen locust
they could look it up or smthn
rugged star
Wha
queen locust
Not impossible
lost spire
So like elder gw as the defender right?
queen jungle
This theory has gotten out of control.
rugged star
Oh
teal orbit
ye
teal orbit
So like elder gw as the defender right?
ye
rugged star
I love how the king looks nice while the prince looks like a burnt marshmallow
rose gorge
im
lost spire
Damn so krills are actually just guarding their territory
rose gorge
burnt marshmallow
lost spire
Always thought theyre on the "enemy" side
teal orbit
This theory has gotten out of control.
its always basically the same.. except wut the fight over... the sides, the tactics, the weapons, they r always the same
teal orbit
ye
queen jungle
Yeah but you guys seem to be taking it as law.
teal orbit
we do?
teal orbit
tst IS** very** promising...
queen locust
I don't? idk what the others think
queen jungle
I should have said not everyone is.
queen locust
Mostly there's discussion that the Prince indeed look like a skid, but perhaps not the extinguished part
thorny folio
I’m gonna hop off for tonight, see y’all later!
rugged star
The king takes the light bc he became a tyrant this corruption - war happened - prince shattered - wl scattered - king locked up in eden - krills patrol.
OR
The king takes the light bc he became a tyrant this corruption - war happened - King locked up - Prince gets light gets killed by Krills - Krills patrol.
queen jungle
Cya!
rose gorge
bye eggman!
queen locust
Aight see ya Eggman
rugged star
Bai bai
teal orbit
Two types of shields: a circular shield and “the typical shield” shape shield. circular shields have the sunburst symbol and “the typical shield” shaped shields have the diamond symbol
this is the very essense of the tst
this is basically it
lost spire
King, so like king of gw?
teal orbit
no
queen locust
Nope- King of basically the entire Kingdom
lost spire
Ohhh
teal orbit
he passed all the trials
broken basin
What is tst lol?
teal orbit
Two types of shields: a circular shield and “the typical shield” shape shield. circular shields have the sunburst symbol and “the typical shield” shaped shields have the diamond symbol
rose gorge
two shields theory
rugged star
broken basin
(again please refrain from using hebrew names)
rugged star
:/
teal orbit
TST.ver.2.0
when the prince opened the ascension beam the elders wanted to go to orbit and go home and the spirits wanted a way to ascend without dying...
and that was the ascension beam...
but several elders were worried that if neutral creatures manipulated and used the light creatures' road to ascension, it would destabilze the network... so they kept it under guard...
but the duds that wanted to go to orbit were persistent and they made an army... they attacked wasteland and wasteland trained krill and fortified its factories... and then they fought...(how the war went is specified in the ver.1.0 and its super long so imma ommit that) then the war reached eden and whether it was an accident or on purpose the beam-emmittor blew up and thats why shards of it r still flying around in eden...
so now the ascension beam could only be opened temporarily by the prince and small er cuz the eimmitor was gone.. so the king went and hid in orbit and the war ended... but vast amounts of resources were exhausted by the war and a lot of the working class was now dead.. so then came famine and disease... the spirits decided this was all the elders` fault and they rebelled and imprisoned the elders in limbo
with no clear leader and very little magical protection with the elders in limbo, the ancestors descended into anarchy and it all went south with all the famine and disease and infighting and so they went extinct... so thats how it all came to be
--> our most recent version
rugged star
That’s confirmed?
teal orbit
nononono
queen jungle
Theory.
teal orbit
a sky theory
queen jungle
Pfff
rugged star
Okay what about the king?
teal orbit
i never got this joke... why is it funny?
queen locust
you could just say this is your version Pyre
teal orbit
ye but that doesnt sound official
rugged star
I thought it was pyro
lethal stump
no theory is official, thats the point
queen locust
because it isn't official???
broken basin
Exactly
teal orbit
ye
rugged star
𝓟𝔂𝓻𝓮
rose gorge
i think they mean like formal
queen locust
Not everyone signed off on this version, so it's best that you claim it as yours Pyre
queen jungle
Game theory.
queen locust
Formalities are lost when we use 'our' to refer to a theory not everyone agrees with
rugged star
Game theory
teal orbit
idk wut that is
lethal stump
𝓱𝓲
please refrain from using special characters, they aren’t accessible to everyone (screen readers and incompatible devices)
rugged star
okie
rose gorge
catchphrase that gets adapted across fandoms in story discussions to fit it differently
lethal stump
it’s just a youtube channel
queen locust
By all means- tell us why
lethal stump
we don’t know if they’re the same or different
it’s up to you, honestly
teal orbit
please refrain from using special characters, they aren’t accessible to everyone...
omg then some ppl may be reading my user name as "- square square square square square -" ?
lethal stump
yep
broken basin
Yep, basically, Everything is upto u in the story
queen jungle
Yeah lol
teal orbit
lol
normal berry
it's a reference to a channel called game theory that basically always ends his videos in "but that's just a theory a game theory"
rugged star
Okay wait, can sky kids - in general, grow? Since creatures in the sky world cant
queen locust
game theories but it's mostly fnaf and minecraft-
queen locust
Okay wait, can sky kids - in general, grow? Since creatures in the sky world can...
Skids can't grow- into either Elders or Ancestors at least
rose gorge
i mean they can grow in size
teal orbit
no
rugged star
But
teal orbit
except with magic
queen locust
They grow with potions yeye
broken basin
And mask
queen jungle
They can grow in size.
teal orbit
not naturally tho
queen locust
But other than that they can't just grow into anything else
teal orbit
they r in their mature form
rugged star
But the king has surpassed the max height of a sky kid as well as the potion takes you
normal berry
I mean technically we've seen different manta's with different grow/ aging cycles, which may imply mantas can grow
teal orbit
But the king has surpassed the max height of a sky kid as well as the potion tak...
mech
teal orbit
I mean technically we've seen different manta's with different grow/ aging cycle...
those r differentspecies
queen locust
Everyone is pretty much taller than a skid-
rugged star
What is mech?
teal orbit
big robot
queen locust
everyone sentient at least
rose gorge
i mean we don’t know that it’s a mech prince could’ve just had the most epic growth spurt in history
queen locust
i mean we don’t know that it’s a mech prince could’ve just had the most epic gro...
greedy freaking prince didn't save any inches for the rest of us hhhhh
lost spire
Sky kid's life source is winged lights lol
rugged star
The prince then obvs can’t grow to be the king
rose gorge
yes exactly
normal berry
we don't know much about the elder species
teal orbit
just that they r a subspecies of us
normal berry
or rather we are a subspecies of them
rose gorge
- they tall
- they old
teal orbit
ye
queen locust
that was a question I had to bring up yesterday actually- is the Eden Elder literally just an exception since Elders can't grow into the position
normal berry
or we may not even be a "species"
queen locust
They were always just Elders-
normal berry
there's a theory we're littol golems
teal orbit
imma go now
rugged star
So I say that the king and prince aren’t the same - if the prince can’t grow
lost spire
So does that mean we're immortal or
queen locust
Aight cya Pyre
lost spire
Since we can't age
rugged star
Bai bai
rose gorge
bye pyre!
rugged star
Exactly
normal berry
but anyways, the king/prince's concept art implies the king is a mech and the prince is his true self
rugged star
We can’t grow or age
queen locust
So does that mean we're immortal or
biologically maybe if we just never go to Eden
lost spire
And the only way for us to die is to lose winged lights
queen locust
or get krilled
rugged star
Because we are made out of light
lost spire
So that means we're very light
livid valley
imo we are made of clay
broken basin
We're Not immortal, but sort of. Like, we still die after losing all light, but the thing is we get reborn again after that
normal berry
I think we are littol stone automations powered by our light
rugged star
throws a fish at finisher No, bad
livid valley
if we are made of light we could be disintegrated by the rain in a few seconds
rugged star
I believe we are that dark creature that pyre sent in a doc
rose gorge
we’re immortal but not invulnerable imo
like if we just stayed in prairie for eternity we’d never die
rugged star
We feed on light to live
normal berry
so we have a protective stone body
livid valley
yes
normal berry
like a shell
livid valley
yep
queen locust
we’re immortal but not invulnerable imo
like if we just stayed in prairie for e...
heck now we can't even die if we crash into walls at mach speed
livid valley
hollow
rugged star
We are hollow and we feed on the light to survive - if not we die
queen locust
c on s u m e
livid valley
we dont have necessarily feed light
rose gorge
i mean we’re sturdy but not invulnerable?
lost spire
Would be funny if sky kids had mouths lol
broken basin
But they don't
lost spire
Why dont we have it 😔
rugged star
I still say there’s a possible chance other beings - humans or other creatures could exist just not in game
queen locust
Would be funny if sky kids had mouths lol
it'd just look like how Pixiv sees skids ngl
broken basin
Even mantas have mouths but not us
rose gorge
don’t need mouth when have hjonk
rugged star
Either that or other type of being have gone extinct
Like humans and regular animals
normal berry
manta is living being
livid valley
Would be funny if sky kids had mouths lol
dosent seem funny to me
lost spire
And if we're maskless we're always closing our eyes
normal berry
we... might not be
queen locust
oh- about those regular animals
queen locust
They're depicted on masks and even murals come Prophecy
Once I think Bricky said that the reason we don't see them around is because they're specifically not light or dark creatures
Merely a neutral existence that couldn't handle the changes in the world
rugged star
Could the sky world be earth but after the whole war humans and animals gone extinct - in some places Mantas are spiritual like in moana
broken basin
But if they really existed why didn't we see them in many murals like we see other creatures like crabs, krills, mantas,
queen locust
what I just mentioned, I mean
queen locust
But if they really existed why didn't we see them in many murals like we see oth...
just like that- natural selection at it's cruelest- they weren't light nor dark creatures
therefore couldn't last in the environment that we see in Sky
or so the theory goes
rugged star
Hmm i realised smthing
teal orbit
so animals like the kitsune or ducks r like dinosaurs for skids lol
queen locust
smthn like it
queen locust
We see some depicted in the Trial murals but idk if those were just artistic renderings of the Prophets or not
broken basin
I think, that's just depicting the end statue
rugged star
I went and search the manta ray from moana and sky - all both have a triangle or diamond shaped at the very front - then i searched more and they all seem to have a diamond at the front of their “eyes”
queen locust
That's kinda what I'm thinking too
broken basin
Well, you understand either way
queen locust
mantas also have a mouth which I find terrifying for some reason
rugged star
Im probably over thinking
Do the diamonds on their forehead server a purpose?
*serve
lost spire
I never understood what ||the statues in eden stands for||
queen locust
rugged star
God am i tired
queen locust
like just look at that thing-
broken basin
Cute
quick grail
yes
broken basin
Yep
quick grail
kawaii!!!!!!!!!
broken basin
They even open and close the mouth
icy spruce
yes
rugged star
How do u ppl even capture or notice these things - i didnt even know
queen locust
am I the only one who finds it terrifying that they have those mouths
icy spruce
How do u ppl even capture or notice these things - i didnt even know
Because L O R E
queen locust
they just open it like m a w
broken basin
Lol, i find them cute
queen locust
m A W
rugged star
Uh their mouths irl are more terrifying
queen locust
I never understood what ||the statues in eden stands for||
which ones btw?
icy spruce
am I the only one who finds it terrifying that they have those mouths
I too, am slightly terrified of those mouths.
queen locust
Uh their mouths irl are more terrifying
bRO IMAGINE THEY RENDERED THE FULL SET
rugged star
NOOOOO
queen locust
LIKE- MANTA MOUTHS ARE JUST- N O-
icy spruce
no
rugged star
NO NO NO NO
teal orbit
How do u ppl even capture or notice these things - i didnt even know
lore theorists do everything they can to understand worlds like this...
lost spire
which ones btw?
||Like we have to give them our winged lights, like what are they supposed to be.. the rock child statues||
queen locust
||Like we have to give them our winged lights, like what are they supposed to be...
Skids
3rd gen skids according to Pyre
broken basin
Mantas are really wierd creatures themselves lol
rugged star
You are supposed to give them to somewhat return them home
queen locust
And no need to spoiler tag btw
icy spruce
Ye
broken basin
You don't have to spoiler tag about eden here @lost spire
teal orbit
okokok duds.. this leaves us with one GAPING question that everyone is prob asking themselves rn.......
WUT DO THEY YEET
queen locust
okokok duds.. this leaves us with one GAPING question that everyone is prob aski...
is this a pun for the open manta mouth
oml it is-
teal orbit
omg i didnt know
rose gorge
uhhh
teal orbit
unintended pun
rose gorge
they eat
rugged star
DO THEY EAT THE LITTLE MANTAS!?
teal orbit
oooh maybe the mouth is just for breathing
queen locust
do they even need to eat- to begin with-
rugged star
Bc i dont see the big ones hang out with the smaller ones!!
teal orbit
the sparks prob provide all the nourishment
maybe the moth is just for breathing
omg
queen locust
m o t h
teal orbit
i just wrote moth
rugged star
Have you seen the groups? The bigger ones hang out with eachother while the smaller flies in smaller groups
rose gorge
the moth is just for breathing 
teal orbit
maybe the mouth is just for breathing
queen locust
imagine sticking a moth to the maw of a manta
broken basin
Well the smaller the mantas the together they stay, bug mantas always stay alone, while small mantas stay in groups
queen locust
and the mantas use them like inhalers
teal orbit
Have you seen the groups? The bigger ones hang out with eachother while the smal...
thats just biology
rugged star
Hahaha Chibis go brrrrr into the mouth
broken basin
Lol, imagine they made them have a tongue
rugged star
realises I’m a chibi nooooooo
teal orbit
Well the smaller the mantas the together they stay, bug mantas always stay alone...
lets use the term pygmy mantas.. bug mantas r scary
lol
rugged star
Bug mantas?
rose gorge
b ug
teal orbit
queen locust
can confirm why are irl mantas just- nightmares-
broken basin
Well, i will never be able to remember those names so i better be using normal names
Also, won't these names confuse new ppl if used often?
queen locust
Indeed they would- then again there's several sizes of manta
referring to each one by a different name was doomed to confuse people frm the start
teal orbit
ye
rugged star
I want to know how elders become elders and how spirits become adult looking spirits
queen locust
wHY FOR THE LOVE OF MEGAN IS THERE A BABY SHARK SONG FOR MANTAS
rugged star
Bc we cant grow
queen locust
I want to know how elders become elders and how spirits become adult looking spi...
Elders- for one- were always Elders
queen locust
They don't they're ageless
teal orbit
I want to know how elders become elders and how spirits become adult looking spi...
spirits grow like ppl and elders were always that way
broken basin
I think spirits grow, but Elders and skids don't
teal orbit
ancestors were neutral
rugged star
Is it bc we made up of light?
queen locust
Elders= ageless, pretty much just born into the position
teal orbit
and they died in the extremities with all the kitsune and ducks
icy spruce
ye
rugged star
Bc light cant grow
queen locust
Skids= cannot and will not grow into Elders, pretty much actually children
icy spruce
yes
hushed steeple
The next generation is going to be nothing but rowdy flying children
rugged star
It 3am WOOO
icy spruce
Elders= ageless, pretty much just born into the position
Says on canon doc-
teal orbit
Skids= cannot and will not grow into Elders, pretty much actually children
but fully mature...(like dwarves)
icy spruce
It 3am WOOO
pog
queen locust
we're dwarves that don the beard only when we like Isle enough to do so-
tiny gandalfs
rugged star
Chibi
teal orbit
hey do u guys wanna know how ancestors used to eat without mouths?
hushed steeple
But then also “turns you into an adult for 10min”
icy spruce
sure
teal orbit
there is no other explanation
broken basin
do you think skykids would exist Before the Explosion
queen locust
it's possible but very much debatable
broken basin
Yeah, especially after than new spirit cutscene
rugged star
The war made humans and animals gone extinct, the big magic go boom and the whole islands sunk and some stay afloat
queen locust
Technically a proto-skid- but technically yes
teal orbit
so these ancestors.. they used to eat actual food but they didnt have mouths or any opening in their bodies.. so... the explanation is that they decompose the food outside their bodies and absorb the protein
like mushrooms
and the prince was an elder
the eden elder
prob
icy spruce
prolly
rugged star
Hey - do u think we make the light fragments into candles is bc if we absorb more light we might burn out?
broken basin
Does anyone have the Elder of the isle pin poem?
icy spruce
uhhh
queen locust
so these ancestors.. they used to eat actual food but they didnt have mouths or ...
i don't know why but this legitimately terrifies me
icy spruce
DOCS
queen locust
gimme a sec
teal orbit
Hey - do u think we make the light fragments into candles is bc if we absorb mor...
its wax, and no thats wut wax does
hushed steeple
What if spirits being mouthless and noseless is just an artstyle thing
teal orbit
prob not
queen locust
Does anyone have the Elder of the isle pin poem?
teal orbit
art styles r always lore
teal orbit
What if spirits being mouthless and noseless is just an artstyle thing
unlike game mechs, art styles r lore
livid valley
wh
rugged star
Mmm skids looks up to spirits and their elders - so they get cosmetics bc they wanna look cool =w=
icy spruce
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BdMPoH0kRZOYDKvl2g5eQSH0h6JlvMHgBFs7P5Lg9NE/...
DARN IT, MY LAPTOP WAS LAGGYYYY
lost spire
Spirits always wear masks 
So if they dont will they look like us, eyes closed
queen locust
I mean- game mechs could still be lore in a way- we just have to be really picky about it
icy spruce
ye
hushed steeple
art styles r always lore
Idk about that. I'll give an example. There's a game known as INSIDE where all characters are faceless, but in the game you can see food, cigarettes, and other things that one would need a mouth to use for.
teal orbit
Spirits always wear masks <:stickerShiny:669711781383503881>
So if they dont wi...
no they dont
broken basin
Dawn breaks with stars fallen,
Ferries stir to distant calls.
Shepherd us home back upwards,
A herald awakes to heed us all.
"Dear Children, no hope was lost,
We saw of your return to us."
The Elder opens up the skies,
And together again, we fly.
queen locust
What counts as an actual in-universe thing and what doesn't
for example- home trick- not lore
hushed steeple
I as well have characters who are faceless but that's just an artstyle thing for me too
rugged star
I mean people call it “maskless” so that’s our natural look - so seeing that - skids technically have no eyes - we’re made out of light or absorb or however we get light
lost spire
Slenderman
teal orbit
Idk about that. I'll give an example. There's a game known as INSIDE where all c...
no thats just minimalist... sky is very specific abt all things except for the mouths and noses
teal orbit
I mean people call it “maskless” so that’s our natural look - so seeing that - s...
we do we just close them
hushed steeple
I don't think that's 100% true imo
teal orbit
like we see the eyelids and eyelashes
rugged star
I don’t think so-
lost spire
We have eyelids so
rugged star
WHY DONT WE BLINK
broken basin
We have eyelashes but not eyes
teal orbit
I don’t think so-
no like its a game detail....
queen locust
Some part of me thinks even that's just an aesthetic choice- because we're technically just light in a hollow shell
hushed steeple
no thats just minimalist... sky is very specific abt all things except for the m...
Also so is INSIDE
teal orbit
We have eyelashes but not eyes
wut?
livid valley
We have eyelashes but not eyes
yes
queen locust
We don't NEED eyes to see in our case
pseudo heart
Maybe skids do some echolocation stuff that's whu hjonking also exists
lost spire
Also so is INSIDE
Ohhh the game?
hushed steeple
Yep the game
queen locust
Nor eyes to hear- because we're simply lumps of light in a shell
rugged star
Eyelids and eyelashes to look normal for the masks but in reality once we remove it under the eyelids and eyes lashes it’s just hollowness
queen locust
heck why would we need to sniff anything
broken basin
We don't NEED eyes to see in our case
I'm not mentioning whether we need them or not, I'm just saying they aren't there
lost spire
At first I thought mask were our face fr
rugged star
There are legit some creatures who has eyelids but no eyes
lost spire
Like just 0_0 all the time
hushed steeple
Also, skids do have ears they're just really hard to see. The ears also don't have any holes.
Im leaning towards this stuff being just artistic choice.
queen locust
that's terrifying ngl
rugged star
=w= so possible chance of skids just having no eyes is possible
lost spire
that's terrifying ngl
Moth days 🥲
livid valley
what.
mellow falcon
Imagine
A two beady light eyes and a void for a face
teal orbit
=w= so possible chance of skids just having no eyes is possible
no they open their eyes in their masks and chibis blink
queen locust
Imagine
A two beady light eyes and a void for a face
inverse hollow knight vessel
could be cute if you choose to ignore the connotations-
rugged star
So they close their eyes every time they get put out >.>
lost spire
Someday.. when sky kids decide to open their eyes
mellow falcon
inverse hollow knight vessel
Lolol
hushed steeple
I think Chibis blinking is just supposed to be a cute little feature, just like the Naruto run
lost spire
Chibi blinks?
mellow falcon
Mhm
lost spire
Never noticed that
hushed steeple
Yeah, when Chibis run, their eyelids move up and down
rugged star
Is it confirmed that we close our eyes when we put maskless!?
queen locust
babey moff babey
mellow falcon
In some emotes they blink
And if you play the harp they blink sometimes
teal orbit
prob not tho
hushed steeple
Yeah they are flying creatures. So are bats, who use echolocation. I think that skids resemble flying animals of all kinds.
Maybe they are blind and use echolocation. Plus, echolocation and the honks work similarly.
rugged star
How does that work? We honk and when they dont honk back how did we even know where they were?
lost spire
We're blind 
mellow falcon
Really Off Topic
I have thoughts about the candles they use
Cause like at first I thought it was their hearts, but like they literally rip a candle out of their stomachs
So-
lost spire
Lol where do they store candles at
livid valley
the chest
lost spire
👀
queen locust
we ARE kinda hollow-
rugged star
We’re blind bc we dont have eyes!!! The “eyes” we have are LIGHT so we can see the world!!! Bc when we in eden, our world slowly becomes darker as the light we gathered fades away!!!
hushed steeple
Another weird thing....
Skids have ears but without holes
How do they hear
rugged star
I- idk about that one
hushed steeple
Maybe they just have really good touching and feeling senses?
short owl
Well... Actual hearing isn't particularly dependant on the holes
rugged star
Maybe the honk we do isn’t actually clear?
icy spruce
I mean, you could still hear when you cover your ears-
rugged star
We hear is somewhat muffled
short owl
The holes are partially because ears evolved from gills and partially for trying to amplify and filter sound
icy spruce
Don't mind me, I don't have enough brain juice to work properly-
rugged star
Chesca - what time it for u?
icy spruce
11 am
rugged star
3:30am still functioning barely
void raft
We are all just moths moving towards a light
rugged star
Anyways
icy spruce
yes
solar relic
we don’t need a mouth to make sounds either
hushed steeple
I mean, you could still hear when you cover your ears-
There's still holes and cracks, like from our hands so ofc we can
icy spruce
ye
rugged star
We’re blind bc we dont have eyes!!! The “eyes” we have are LIGHT so we can see the world!!! Bc when we in eden, our world slowly becomes darker as the light we gathered fades away!!!
I like this
void raft
> **We are all just moths moving towards a light**
this is the way
short owl
Likely skykid hearing is slightly different, but their lil earflaps are probably plenty sensitive to pick up general audio. (This may lead to limitations with the variety of tones we can understand though, which may contribute to our lack of audible language)
rugged star
Null sounds professional
queen locust
exactly how much research for ears did you need to do Null-
short owl
Note, I am pulling this from memory and may be remembering things inaccurately
void raft
moths have antennae that detect small vibrations in the air
queen locust
We don't have antennae though
solar relic
moths aren’t the confirmed name for skids though
queen locust
moths aren’t the confirmed name for skids though
Might not- but the imagery is hard to ignore-
solar relic
yeah
rugged star
short owl
No, but antenae also are also not holes
void raft
the concept is that the sky experience is what the mind in a moth is like, it may be different then reality
teal orbit
but candles r real
void raft
ultimately it is just a philosophical theory
rugged star
I wonder why the elder chose candles to gather light from - since we can get it from lanterns, stars and other things too
queen locust
maybe they just really liked how Candlemaker made them lmao
he made them scented and stuff
void raft
I wonder why the elder chose candles to gather light from - since we can get it ...
our characters seem to be an infinite source of fire and light energy
queen locust
Maybe it's an allusion to how candles are placed on shrines considering they're on you know- shrines-
rugged star
We don’t burn out in normal clear water