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I'll casually commit elder and go to limbo, BYEEEEEE
they rub their eyes with their hands
dud... thats the meme...
Maybe beyond home, there could be a different door to lead to another dimension
Thus why Sky children need capes
A variant of an existing meme
oh ok
oh maybe
Also a reason to ||reborn||
the names r lame
Because there would be no other reason to, other than getting cosmetic to make them look “normal”
No need to spoiler-
Oh ok
I means it's #lore-discussion-spoilers -
Im mind blowing myself with thinking woah, never used my brain this much
WELCOME TO THE LORE CHAT
I don't think we do.. because if we give them whacky names it'd just confuse people..
Squishy and non squishy
do we have a taxonomy specialist...
discover the dark side of the force game, @rugged star
WHERE THE LORE JUICE OUR BRAINS, A LOT
Because I, for one is confused already
Ysd
Confusion
Think about it, Sky children - needs cosmetic, use of emotes, a mask to wear, and reborn themselves to gather more light as well gain more boost for their capes. Boosts including, speed i think and more power.
this is the theory
i dont think they necessarily need cosmetic
canonically, they just do it for altruism......
but to be really really honest, i have experienced the horror of knowing classifcation names of animal species because they are so difficult, and the notion that you need to memorize them if you’re taking biology ... i suggest that lets not do it with sky. there is enough complexity in the real world and as someone who plays sky as a form of escapism, i really object this kind of naming.
they could stay in orbit for as long as they want
ok then.... the lame easy names stay...
They don’t need it but they could use it, want it, to stand out and be their own person
To hide what’s within
its super short
we understand them as well in english and naming might bring closer to professionalism, but as its a dreadful thing irl, i just
Thing is I love it when we make a noise when we chat to another player - we have our own language which is just noise
thats... not a language....
Shhhh
I love to hjonk
Hjonking IS a language
monosyllable is a thing
its a primal honk with no real meaning
Maybe to us it’s just noise - maybe to another creature or being - it could be anything else
I don't accept criticism
We're fairly recent beings
huh..
It technically is a language! Cuz to us humans a honk is a honk, but to them honking is their language
And we try and imitate the creatures around us too to try and talk to them! It’s adorable
[listens to anthropology long enough to learn that humans long ago initially have this monosyllable language]
Yes!
huh...
WE LEARN HOW TO IMITATE CREATURES!
Like, whales have languages irl! So do bees! We can't understand them until we put in the effort
oh ye those have languages
I go to a glorified anthropology class I can indeed confirm that it's technically a language
its possible to have something that is a single sound, and mean something. thats what initial societies did
Humans in stone ages: hjonk
Actually honking is like showing the light when you honk your light will lead the way
And now i have the idea of moths dancing in sky to tell each other where the vets are so they can friend them
heck ya anthro’s unite
Listen, possible chance of them imitating humans - who speak ENGLISH or any other languages - THEY COULD imitate or learn it too
True, and skykids and spirits can imitate sounds
ye
anyway I walked into ya'll discussing about honking but what are we talking about-
There has got to be more than a island in the middle of nowhere - home
So....
Skykids are multilingual technically
ye
Ye
or the whole planet uses the same language
Skykids have infinity brain juice
Idek anymore
only in different accents
imitation is different from communication
(and this is not saying honking isnt a language. honking can be a language but if u parrot a language you’re just imitating what it says w/o possibly understanding it)
I like the fact that teth (forest elder’s concept name) stands for 9 in Hebrew and that forest elder also has 9 locks of hair
uu?
Cool
To be fair right off the gate we don't copy our default honk from anything
I wonder if they heard a human speak - what noise would they make?
That's actually really cool
Default is the skykid noise
i want to relook at my anthro notes again
wut if..... all creatures use the same language... but with different accents?
put them in a room full of screaming humans
** "CANDLE! CANDLE! CANDLE!"**
human be like: 👀
honking isn’t a language I think it’s just like a sound for the creatures to be summoned
damn i miss that class
But we don't summom creatures
ye
We can
O- hi viridi! Didn’t expect to see you here from GT amino and Tumblr
thats bells
I’m just thinking about how we flaunt our more exotics calls(I.e. crab or jelly) and thinking about how skids rank each other by how good their impersonations of some random animal are
We interact with them
we humans are curious we will lock it up in some lab and test on it for many years i tell you
aw heck heya there XD
I mean, humans have taught creatures speak english - such as parrots, I heard a dog somewhat speak, same with a cat
Lmao
Sky... Hierarchy??
WAIT DON'T ELDERS MAKE SOUNDS TOO
wut no
Bruh you have sky wow
nah
Maybe the could teach Sky children to speak english o-o
Had Sky for months I'm kind of hibernating rn XD
they cant speak english
C H A T
Thus “CANDLE CANDLE CANDLE”
Who
Lmao f
they cant even say a word
C H A T
LIKE-
PRAIRIE FELLOW SNORES AND WASTELAND CAN GRINT KINDA
its just a hjonk please
Is in game chat lore?
But chat is game mechs, lol
maybe they're all just saying candle and we only hear them honk
Pfff Chat is valid
Sooooo, skskssksksk
Uh why you guys so fast
True
I doubt you’d know my actual user since I change it sm lol
we need a cozy lore chat
Brb brb class see u guys in a few mins
because anytime we get into how the honking works lore chat is always firing at mach 6
Lore cat
What would that imply
I mean, we live in the sky, so what’s below the sky?
It’s more of a thing players do (shows how old u are) but if it translated in game that would be hilarious
“Oh hey L-“
screams in crab
Also? Unsure. Only prairie elder has canonically and they were sleepy noises 
Hey @thorny folio, did you get enough sneep snorp today? 
Water
Underwater
The void
Lore meme chat :DD
I did sky bot thank you 😌
Uhhhhhhh how are you guys so Fast
40 sec slowmode...
promo hell all over again
Oh pog
Water- we see have three places at sea-level
guysguys i just realized
Isle, Wasteland, and Sanctuary are all sea-level places
Water and a couple of Islands
the lowest place is caverns
The krills bathwater, not only does it steal our money, it steals our light too
in forest
Home should be under the sky, the entire sky world at that
me: looks at the possibility of skykid rank
me: thinks about social stratification, upper class’ exploitation of lower class, some ppl displaced from the norm, and other screwed up things from all kinds of norms and hierarchies irl
me: [softly] no
Uhhhh do I have bad internet what is happening
nope- the lowest point in the caverns in Forest has cloud
Home is in a different space and time
At “home” there’s a ocean of water - I want to know what’s beyond that
Speaking of water if valley is above the clouds how is there puddles, and an underwater area we can access
its called valley.....
Forest is weirdly high up for a place with an abandoned mine
Well, I don’t mean all real world hierarchies
also putting it under the deepest of sky world will make the sun cycle impossible
ye... but then again, in sky, clouds double as fog
[breathes relief]
Tbh i think all the elders made land out of the clouds
BUT then again, we see the literal ocean that goes on forever
What is beyond home? More doors? More islands? Nothingness?
No one knows as no one has reached that point
Nothingness i say
wind walls
opening credit island... then nothing until we reach the isle of dawn
gray walls of 'haha n o'
Therefore, safe to assume that this is the lowest surface point in Sky
Im not talking this like it’s a normal game- like I’m imagining myself there
What is beyond the boundaries of home
Nonsense there is always a lore reason
there must be! (😂)
bro what would you even put in Homespace for a season
Season of merchandise; follow the merchant to wherever the heck he goes when it's not merch season
Maybe it’s like irl universe, beyond irl solar system are more solar systems, so beyond the boundaries of home there are more homes
pog
Pfft
ive always had a little theory that home space is the eden elder’s (us, imo) elder room
thousands of islands
Tbh that's probs more of a joke season...
that... actually sounds like an intriguing idea-
I’m not talking about this like a game - just imagine yourself and think what could be BEYOND that lonesome island?
isle of dawn
yes
more ocean
Sanctuary Islands
The realms
The clouds
Because we have doors
The world 
Portals
Even more wind walls
we’re we ever able to ride the big whale
I-
I mean....
For all we know they could just be in a secret area in Isle or forest making merchandise...
Wind
To other places which could be different realms
No 😔
Yes
ahhhhhh
That was to the whale comment
tbh id rather say its just a game mechanic
The swirling clouds could be a vortex leading us to a DIFFERENT realm
ahhhhhhh
now all we have to do is wait for the slow mode to kick in
Maybe
Lol
Indeed :DD
Or....
What if one day there was a season in home that went under the ocean? 👀
Then we might learn where the jellyfish and Mangas and whales come from
its not moving fast what-
:((
I’m not thinking this like a game mechanic thing, I doing this as a story o-o
i find it hilarious that lore chat gets fired up over skid honks and homespace shenanigans
Anyways, Imma just commit limbo for a couple of minutes. Adios-
I am curious
humans are always curious
Oh wait when you die you go under home
folksfolks.. wut if... SKY is a backronym......
under home?
Because you have doors/portals to another realm but the cloud vortex thing you go through - it leads you somwhere different
I wonder if ||nasa Easter egg|| and homespace are in the same place
under home is literally water
no u go high up to orbit
Well... That's Game play wise... Not really in the legit lore of the game
Oh @teal orbit can you resend the symbiote doc I copied the link but it’s gone from my clipboard 😭
Like when we die not in eden
Pretty sure the clouds in home are part of Eden, prolly-
nah
I wish we had a lil tent area for our home space
||its in office every Sunday so it’s a spoiler technically||
I don’t think so
so your saying when we die we dont go into the eden place but under home?
Thanks
We don’t die in eden in wasteland or forest I think
I don't think easter eggs are, yknow? ;-;
and if you die in eden you end up in eden place
OR
Office is not lore
Office is also non spoiler here
I mean, ITS KSY
haha u guys were all talking abt how home is a pocket dimension and then u realize its way more fun to think of homespace as a remote island lol
*SKY
Sky
well okay
hhhhh
Skskskkskskskskksksks
Hhhhhhh
||office|| is a non Canonical area
backronym
yes
Yes
the thing you have to wonder is how big the realms are lmao
They are big
It’s like they’re not even in the same planet tbh but probably not
realms are not big for me
noooooo not that again....
Sky backward stands for You're Krilling, Stop
Wind walls just stop us
homespace is just hawaii
in concept which is could be possible its just worlds connected
Okay guys, hear me out on this one okay?
ohhhhhhh how abt stop krilling yourself
Realms are pretty not that big, tbh- Prolly cause eden blocked lots of places.
y e s
Yes I sgshjshshs
A-are you ok-
SENDING KIDS YEETWARD
bruh why is everyone shouting
tbh they’re probably getting bigger
how
Sjfjgjg anyway
Titans
what?
the old concept art map is interesting enough even if it’s old
Cuz of seasonal areas?? Uh
no idea, mate. I'm just watching YTube while chatting here.
Super random - so the elders sacrificed themselves /banded together to create the time stasis in the realms? So the darkness/destruction didn’t spread further? 
we have sanctuary which is pretty large
its not getting larger
S.K.Y
is a backronym now
S.K.Y
STOP KRILLING YOURSELF
its already there
ok
ye
ye, we just discover more places
same goes with every season e
I mean, our scope is getting larger
area
Tbh im wondering if we should even count things that were ideas in the og sky but were cut... Cuz if it was removed shouldn't it not be important to the lore?
I don’t think so, because if you go to eden the clouds are darker - when you finish the Vault area, there’s a barrier leading towards Eden. So the Vault is one of the entrance to eden, we collect spirits to unlock emotes but it also unlocks the door to Eden, there’s a question there - why is eden supposed to be locked? But anyways, the majority of the home island is water, looking around there is clouds, but look further - mostly water. What is beyond there? No dark clouds, no murky clouds like in Golden Wasteland
ok i gtg brb~~~~
It is there, but they haven’t been introduced aight

I don't mean just og sky but... All beta stuff and such
yes but its not getting larger
is the result of the krill’s hate collected from the ash they drop, personified and relit on fire with heatseeking murderous intent
Eden is dry as heck
beta stuff can help us to know a little more as it can help support theories
Eden was sealed because, frankly, nobody wants or should be there
Damn, that’s a good theory
i literally meant that our range of space is getting larger at least. jesus lol
Rhythm is a beta stuff in the past and it was brought back again maybe in the future there will be more
Yes
I... Guess
heatseaking murderous intent is now my new favorite phrase-
Shadows
I thought the ash worms exist before krills?
Pretty sure Eden was an important place judging that it's locked and most likely King/Prince lives in there. Well, based on another theory, it was locked because King/Prince became a bit insane (corrupted) and uh ye-
Don't think so if you think trials are not real
Unlikely that the ash worms even existed at all
We’ve never seen them outside of the trials
Yep
👁️ 👁️
the worms are just worms on a string full of hatred
Plus they seem to take inspiration from krill instead of predating them
true
Hmm, makes sense
The trials are dreams
I didn't have enough brain juice today :'((
I'm a firm believer the trials are dreams we live through or the legit prophecies the prophets see that we go through... So in my head smoke children are nonexistent
I know of a prophet that keeps writing bruh on prophecies 
kinda like- krill but they're even more of machines
Bruh prophet?
ok im back
merely manifestations of the Trials
WHOSE dreams though?
I too, am a firm believer of the theory that the trials are not real.
Ours? 👁👁
The prophet's dreams
prophet clone reporting for duty! 
I mean- I'm also a firm believer that the Trials don't exist in the physical realm
Me too
Cuz... They're prophets
what if the dreams were made by magic
Dndkfjf
Yea same
i need to stop summoning skybot on accident
I L L U S I O N
wut r we talkin abt now?
It's either our dreams or the prophet's
Lucid dreams are a thing so it could make sense for trials merely being dreams
LOL WHAT IF THE SKATER CHILD DREAMED UP THE TRIALS 👀
jkjk
Dark worms I think
Trials
Truth be told, Eden is a place of ruins and nothing much is left - there are areas that are blocked as well the route to the point of no return is the only way we can go through - theory is that the king/prince who once ruled became one with the storm and darkness - thus the harsh light or thing when we try and rescue other sky children who are frozen
Maybe when skids dream, they only lucid dream
illusion is the thing of something looks weird and unsual but normal in the same time
What if the trials are a look inside the world the spirit elders live in?
LOL WHAT IF THE SKATER CHILD DREAMED UP THE TRIALS 👀
jkjk
@supple sluice big thonk
the fact that we finally get elder related lore on the walls of prophecy h
beware the ||

||
Beans
Maybe it’s like a “travelling into the depths of yourself to discover your potential” kind of thing
Beans
beware the b e n \
project moloch
lmao
Beaned
Oh there, was a theory of King/Prince being trapped in the diamond.
Pfff- she had weird dreams so the prophets came to dissect them and preach about... Uh... Something
i woudnt like the child anymore if she had this dreams forever
Season of Dreams and her dreams were made to make us suffer-
And the trials are just a visualization of the things the sky kids thinks about while discovering higher level of themselves
And she's just ice skating for publicity-
Okay okay anyway
i torture myself regardless of conscious thought-
I’ve been in this discord for a whole year and I’m JUST now discovering this room
trials r prob like those eden elder prisons
man I wonder if she’s gonna be the quest giver
Imagine if she’s so small
So- limbo- of sorts
- happy Rythm Guide noises *
Well what cosmetic she would give to us anyway
At one point I theorized maybe the trials are a way to single out those who can gain the knowledge of the prophets, so that when a prophet dies the right sky kid can carry on the legacy
At least our sky kids won't be tired of looking up
I wonder if in the new season, there will be ice skating rinks for us to race in and they'll be like smol mini games, like how trials were smol minigames
the baseball pitcher eyes
I think she has some skirt which is interesting but less likely anyway
would they even be tired first of all
Whenever someone says small my mind immediately jumps to chibi potion and shrink potion out together at the same time kind of small
Especially after tall anubis msn
- laughs in tiny potions *
hope the skating rink comes back like my old moth days
i dont think they can even feel pain
sentient clay children
A follow up for both is that the sky children who are heading towards it are trying to light the corruption, the more who joined the more that falls into the darkness but if you think about it - the diamond in the centre is shining brightly. Maybe the light isn’t put out maybe it was taken? The red crystals/rocks could transfer their light to the corrupted prince/king to make him continue to live longer and getting closer to the diamond is the reason why the endless beating we get by going to eden is so that the king/prince has something to feed/live on as well to push the people who are trying to lighten him.
- laughs in toll*
after the community bombed the trials? i doubt that...
I mean since 2020 is a tough year, maybe this season teach us some stuff
I think they run on the light inside them, so as long as it doesn't run out they're okay
we hug the prince... in orbit...
Hmm, prolly.
Like an eternal oil lamp!
(might be) Prince
the skating rink for the season looks smaller than the one with holes
dosent suit for races
..... SKIDS ARE OIL LAMPS AND THE OIL IN WASTELAND IS THE FUEL-
haha no that's dumb
We are merely food for the corrupted king/prince
The amount of times I’ve slammed into walls and almost broke my neck and got up perfectly fine is a testament to this
HOLY
WHATS AN OIL LAMP
I meant that maybe there will be an expanded area for it
A lamp that runs on oil lol
your too modern to know
yes.. exapanded lol
hhhhhhh
I'm not a serious theorist, sorry
i hope
Yeah
most certainly
I don't have enough brain cells, today :DD
yees
The reason why we endlessly reborn ourselves is to gather more light for us to try and reach the corrupted king/prince.
o-o
basically saying Rhythm is a boring season
I mean, originally seasons didn't have actual new areas until like... Gratitude? Enchantment?
I think that maybe we'll get there, to the village, by just sliding down at the end of the race maybe
I just don't see where the entrance would be lul
did all of the seasons have expanded areas? Or is it just a recent thing from belonging
Lmao i mean... At least there's pants
we... hug,,, the prince in orbit prob.....
this is like the most generally accepted theory
recent
and its soooo good
I see
Or could it be..ourselves???
That's plausible, and if the prince is the ultimate light it makes sense he gives us seven flaps
omg 7 flaps for every realm.....
what is the first season again i forgot
hhhhhhhh
And the prince shattering theory... Also plausible, cuz of all the winged light
i think its gratitude yes?
Gratitude?
gratitude
Gratitude
well
Who is the prince I keep hearing about and what exactly does he look like?
if there werent new places to explore every 2 months, there would be no vets in sky...
presumably like us but like- with a giant heavy King head
he looks like some small sky kid in the concepts with a star mask like that
well then Gratitude is the first so nah
hold on lemme bust out the moff doc
The prince is an old person who we never really see except in old concept art... I can't explain him except he's reportedly really great
There’s the tunnel from lightseekers but gratitude didn’t have one
Belonging is the 8 player door right?????
open sky and go to wasteland and krill yourself... the prince will appear before your eyes
New areas started with belonging
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
HELLO NEW LORE MOFF- credits to Bricky @unreal fox
Sad but true... it’s kinda why I’m still around apart from the friendships I’ve created
Rhythm was the last one to be across all realms
No, that death area brings you to a different one to the eden death area
You mean the golden baby?
no just once is sufficient
get krilled once
No, there's pictures depicting the difference
hypothetically how long do you have to play to become a vet lol
not the shinyboi
Lemme find the pictures...
Step 1: don't be an android player
lmao
is this a insult to me :((
more like get krilled once and continue to get krilled until you lose every child you just kidnapped
I'm an android player too
i dont know that was a baby
What are we gonna do with 20 flaps?
We e need a giant cliff with ten candle cakes at the top.
Air trial times 100.
Then all the 20 flap kids will have all the wax.
nah only once
wish i could yeet it out of my eyes
I remember seeing cotl on play store when it was on beta
Sadly I didn’t get to play it lol 😔
But I'm what I'm saying is that VET vets are all literally iOS because android babies only came during enchantment
THANKS
android babies I'm-
@pseudo heart aww.... All those quarantine kids.
I feel so bad not discovering seasons sooner or else I would’ve got rhythm stuff...
babies?
Quarantids
Another theory?: A king had a son, unfortunately his wife had not made it but as time passed, the lonesome nights without his beloved corrupted within which made him turn dark - as his son grew with joy and light - the king blames his son and seeks for revenge. Thus the shattering of his son, now realising he lost his wife and son, he was then trapped by the elders to never be released - so as time passed by, he corrupted more and more.
I mean... Sky wasn't available on android until Enchantment
im a baby? i need a krill to kill me
Noooo let's be bebies
nah that contradicts canon stuff
Hmmm
That also requires the existence of a wife
Okayyy. Got the images after searching....
The first two are the ones from normal death, third ones from eden... Unless if an update changed it, the two deaths are different
ik
pog
i said... get krilled once
Pretty much considered that the king and prince are like the same species of the elders
ye
-... What
Can someone give me a quick explanation of the canon stuff?
Woh— I never died normal deaths :OO
.... Okay now I'm just confused
if the king has a wife and son and the wife died the king is really cold hearted
Lore Moff Doc (ESSENTIAL, credits to Bricky)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing
The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :)
Here
All
Thanks
@supple sluice why wont u listen....
i said once several times...
hhhhhhhhh
I think there’s like 3 species: Elders, spirits and sky kids
Get krilled once, and... Yeah your winged light flies off
elders and skids r subspecies (confirmed)
because I got krilled once and we don't DIE immediately
Ancestors is a more fitting word instead of spirits
ye
after all if the king has a wife and passed he should be wary about it and build some tributes there is no mentions of a queen in sky ever
ye
So it isn't just once- and you can get krilled again even after you lose the winged light
why is@icy spruce always faster lol
.... Hhhh. Why should I get krilled again??
ALSO, Prince and King MIGHT be the same person lol
PROB
Because, ye
I mean, the prince becoming the king is much possible
well okay, looks like the bot ate my message so don’t tell me anything about it lol
MEGAAANN
SORRY
THE BEST PARET 101
In the credits, we see Megan
*PARENT
I knkw right?
lmao
The child yeeter
If you've sat through the credits and saw the giganic cosmic lump of light that vaguely looks like a bird
thats megan
to be fair even then you wouldn't think that thing was a god
imo Megan is the worst mom ever
There are also those home statues around the realms that are birds lol
the krill in the fire trial mural is karen
So, the megabird is somewhat like a God
MEGAN THE ~~MOST IRRESPONSIBLE ~~ BEST MOM 2020
Pfff, i mean at least she gives candles
no
no
they literally do nothing
Or... Something? At least she... Made us??
ye
..... No...? Never mind
some of you might not know this but some concept arts can be seen in Tom Zhao’s website, which is cool and I encourage you all to check it out
she take some clay and made us
Yes, although some of that is up to interpretation. Is megabird(Megan) sentient? Or just symbolic of the rebirth cycle?
there are failures
Yeah
might’ve spelled the name wrong I am sorry
generations
they kinda yeeted us out of the Sky and literally made us clean up the work
So we can thank her for making us
Fun stuff to think about!
but thats just old neo-cunfucist.....bad things
And... Just letting us die
Thanks mom
SHE DOESN'T CLEAN HER CHILDREN'S MESS UP AND THEY JUST SEND EVEN YOUNGER KIDS TO CLEAN HER-
i woudnt she literally made us go through hell
Lmao it's sad to think that we're literally just cleaners of our past generatiom's mess
And do this same cycle
Sounds very familiar
for many many more years
Hey, I'm glad i got to meet yalll!
Nothings ever clean
I wouldn't thank her either we were literally made to die
She's why I'm here!
kinda like actual christianity
If she didn't none of us would-okay nvm that's meta
ye... no... thats just tgc
MEGAN FOR GOSH SAKE, WE'RE NOT IN AN ANIME. KIDS CAN'T SAVE A WORLD
Oh are we hating Megan atm?
yes
I mean, it might be a free-will situation
ye... only tgc can
Megan will be hated in lore channel but loved in gen
Pff
OMG WAIT SHE'S JUST EXPECTING THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP ANIME TROPE TO WORK EVENTUALLY
To be fair, if we were saving the world, we would have been made with that capacity
can someone give a brief description of megan cause like
They’re very vague
why?
Ikr, smh smh
The ancestors fell for being wrong right? Maybe they wanted free will like humans
Kicked em out of her house
we're stumped for the same reasons-
no one knows anything certain bout megan, thats all we know about her
I mean, they did kinda just make a home instead of trying to return...
brief answer- she's POSSIBLY a god
yes
Megan but as Big bird from Sesame Street or smth
megan was very very significant in the concepts tho,, but only there
I-
But some people say they were trying to get to orbit through eden and failed
NO
A-
Megabird is an elusive character. There is lots of conflicting theories and information from the concepts. Some believe they are like the god of the Sky world, others believe they are a personification of the universe/cycle of rebirth. There’s other theories, but there’s no time to get into it. Reading the concepts would be useful to get an idea of Megabird, their development, and what they may be like in your theory.
from lore moff doc
VEGAN MEGAN I-
imagine there is a bowl of carbonara spaghetti... u reach into the midlle and grab a bunch of noodles... then u raise you r hand so that the noodles and the sauce drip down...
thats megan
WAIT WHAT IF THE KING BUILT EDEN SO CLOSE TO THE LIGHT BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO USE THE DIAMOND TO BRING THE CIVILIZATION BACK HOME
VEGAN MEGAN

MEGAN CANONICALLY EATS SALADS
haha tst ver.2.0 has resurfaced and i had nothing to do with it!!!!!!
tower of babel lmao
SKSKSSKSKKSKSKS
Oooh good idea!
its called tst. ver.2.0
Big bird is watching you
I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad, but cool
and i made it.....
wh- what just happened i only went away for 5 seconds..
Maybe that’s what drove him mad-the chosen one stuff got to him
Tst version?
What? Nm
CHAOS AND MEGAN
Two shields theory
YES
MEGAN IS VEGAN
egglet made tst ver.2.0 on their own
Ohhh
i made it
Ye
lol
why vegan..
😭
Cuz someone mistyped Megan as vegan
Because, birb :))
So now Megan is vegan
Oh the civil war one I improved it? Heck ye 
i'm confused literally TST warrants a whole doc of it's own
Yall are damn too fast
She likes salads with birdseed pellets with salad sauce from the tears of moths
oof yea
Ye-
moths dont cry
tEARS OF M O FF S
Ye
id rather dont see their dumb crying masks
megan kicked the elders out for not being vegan
i....improved.....you-
I-
bu-
T.T
yes
THEy CAn, CrYing EmoTE
Oh
slurp slurp the water in homespace
thats a mimic action
About the two shields thing
its a game mechanic
yes
I'm sorry I'm just being a clown
In one of them
cool
For legal reasons that was a joke was it already theorized as a reason behind the war
WUT???@livid valley
yes
Dkckfjf exit
and every emote ever
Yes
think wut u will dud....
skksskskskksks
The dead bones in Graveyard are the flying slugs!?
And I oop
Flying what now
I’ve been lurking for about 5 minutes now and i’m still confused about what on earth is even going on tonight
Stuff like this really makes me want to put all of you in a single document and input every single thing you've exposited concerning the war
Well
No no,, come to think of it.. Prairie barely has any diamond tech?
vegan megan
what??
FKFJDJFJF WAIT WHY WOULD SLEEPING BUTTERFLY MAN WANT TO TO TO WAR
?????
Can relate, except I'm prolly making the chaos bigger with them
im also confused
Oh you just said never mind
Maybe because they're against the technology
theory vault has it 
yes
Why did they harvest light btw?
who
The Prairie people?
Uhm
Save animals??
I realize that but they have so many interpretations and the 2.0s are making me want to hurl there's so many
hey did anyone put tst.ver.2.0 in the vault?
lol no
Sodjfjf wait i think Prairie just wanted to make more butterflies
ok
yeah and then crush them and make diamonds
ez
gg
The tech needed to hunt light to power it right?
Prairie was against animal cruelty
OH WAIT VALLEY ONWARD DOESN'T HAVE BUTTERFLIES
no
Prairie does have a sizeable amount of diamond tech though- in the manta villages
thats ver.1.0
UHM MAYBE THAT'S PROOF? IDK??
hhhh, Imma just go and uhhh commit elder and go to YTube. Adios-
elaborate on what « TST ver 2.0 » is ?
they put them in jars and shipped them to forest
TWO SHIELDS THEORY 2.00000000000000000000000000000000'
Ohhh si was my thing 2.0?
i am aware what it stands for
Or are there multiple?
oh ok
wHICH ONE IS 2.0 SERIOUSLY
its.... my .. thing.....
ALL OF THEM ARE 2.0
I'M CONFFUSED 😭
Jk
w h a t
I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WERE MULTIPLE VERSIONS OF TST
I'm just as clueless
Ok, so you did 2.0 and I said the same thing as u?
there’s several takes on the TST, none could really be « 2.0 » because it’s frankly just a big pile of different peoples’ thoughts
I saw that the giant slug /flying fish that also comes in the end when we are reborn.. Is getting sucked into the storm in wasteland... So all the light creatures including sea slugs were roaming wasteland because of this and eventually died due to lack of light?
HOLD UP I IT'S TOO TLEARLY FOR THIS
Dang I’m a poser
LET ME GO EAT BREAKFAST BYE
this is 1.0
hol up this is a thing
I can’t see it, link maybe?
Yes
what if this is the cursed creature
honestly okay- nobody cares about which one is 2.0- literally just say ver.Pyre or ver.Egg
Time to.. OOB
Fjdkgjfg we don't have versions of the tst cuz none are fully excepted
What's happening here 👀
Lol cool
i just want to hear pyre’s version of the tst at this point
Trynna not to get sucked by swirling storm of FLOP
Like, i think the different shields correspond to the types of soldiers and scouts
But some think there's war
pyre go my thing wasn’t directly related to tst
its the same thing but mine goes further and came out 2 days before
also tbh i think its just some shadows being acting weirdly making it looked like some creature in the storm
Explain what happened?
then call it ver.Pyre oml
what is your theory, pyre, i’d like to hear it
ok here goes tst.ver.2.0
it's not h a r d
??? What the heck
Naaah that looks too much like silhouette of a creature to be some bug
Nope stood there for many minutes.. It appears again and again
AAAA BREAKFAST
very well then
.... Okay congrats this is more confusing than my homework
which is why I told them to just say ver.(name)
there is no slug creature in concept arts or anywhere im sure
it’s not a slug, it’s a whale
Its a whale
Wait - that creature is the thing we see DESTROY a pillar when we reborn
yes, it’s a whale
ye
what is this whale even doing ]
Like the Pyro TsT theory, the Eggman TSt theory?
Unfortunately I call the one in sanctuary a whale...
Oh - never knew it was called a whale
Gotcha
They mean they said their version of 2.0 first, and I came up with the same thing two days later
KFJDJFF WAIT IS THEIR NAME EGGMAN
that’s an elder manta, not a whale
EGgMan
FKDKFJ SORRY
I feel like
EGGLET THEORY
;-;
I feel like, some of the creatures aren’t what they seem
yes
The megabird is barely seen right?
mmkay Imma actually go to class this time- while ya'll settle down-
I ACCIDENTALLY NAMED SOMEONE EGGLET I-
brb-
EGGMAN*
here’s where we got the term « elder manta »
FMDKFJF
w h a t
Ooh! I never realized there's different types of manta
Looks whale
Its the growth
Doesn't say a whale or manta...
possibly, still debated, @rapid juniper
it’s the « elder » being
thus it became « elder manta »
The megabird comes out when we reborn? I remember we see it from a cutscene
Wdym
its pretty obvious
two wing manta,one wing ,elder
it’s still debated if that’s the lifecycle of a manta or if it’s the subspecies
But does jump like a whale.. Doesn't fly like a manta.. Soo I assumed it was the whale
Manta is the Canonical term (cuz the meditation shrine specifies its with Mantas)
And it's also just what we call them :)
So. Canths are whales and whales are mantas.
has flashbacks to yesterday
The mantas in the vault could be deceased mantas
Fjejfjf i guess my eyes died
They are spirit mantas
which are dead mantas
Like dead mantas
hah.
A
I had a massive brain dead cause i was over thinking
ah yes- SkyGeo-
I'm sorry I'm confusing everything and everyone dkdkfjf
Uhm... Idk
sike I'm back
I’ve heard them describes as memories
Lol hi Virdi
orbit
tis okay Radian- we're all going too fast
I-
jhshajhaj OML
Anyway whatever it is called.. This thing seems to appear within the storm that sucks us in... I recently had a discussion here that the bones in forest were of this flying "whale" (aka slug) too.. So these creatures were everywhere and the big bones we see are theirs
😎
I thought the Bones are from the manta that got krilled
EGgMan
whales are rare in sky
The end credits (at the end of the end credits)
end of credits, and in orbit sky
Doctor Eggman also does sky theories while ruining Sonic's life
Its little mantas don’t have bones I think
O... Wait... What bones are we talking about
what if the krill eat the bones
Form gw
Thats a....bird?
crunchy snack
i wasn't joking when I said 'lump of light' lmao
this is how i see it
So question is.. Were the spears and swords we see in wasteland used to fight these.. May be these became corrupt? The size of spear, shield and sword are waay bigger for any krill. So whales that became corrupted?
It’s ramen actually
it just BARELY looks like a bird-
Yes whose are whalestot
Wait, i read the canon thing and there are some bones that do not define the creatures that we see
s l u r p
the wasteland bones aren’t whales, they’re turtle-whale hybrids
Thats a bird with no spine
whurtlesss
does God need a spine
Yeah, the... The skeletons in wasteland are weird
Waot
WHY DID WE HAVE TO KILL THEM OFF
No wait
im pretty sure there is only one whurtle bones in Gw
I just want turtles ;-;
What if
the others are whale isnt it
Has this been confirmed? Or a theory?
technically it wasn't us- blame the juicers over in Wasteland
Mm true
their i?
LMRKDKFKFKF WE SAY WE WANT TURTLES AGAIN THEY GIVE US TURTLES AS CORPSES IN WASTELAND
So it’s been confirmed?
I-
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
- dev reika
when the prince opened the ascension beam the elders wanted to go to orbit and go home and the spirits wanted a way to ascend without dying...
and that was the ascension beam...
but several elders were worried that if neutral creatures manipulated and used the light creatures' road to ascension, it would destabilze the network... so they kept it under guard...
but the duds that wanted to go to orbit were persistent and they made an army... they attacked wasteland and wasteland trained krill and fortified its factories... and then they fought...(how the war went is specified in the ver.1.0 and its super long so imma ommit that) then the war reached eden and whether it was an accident or on purpose the beam-emmittor blew up and thats why shards of it r still flying around in eden...
so now the ascension beam could only be opened temporarily by the prince and small er cuz the eimmitor was gone.. so the king went and hid in orbit and the war ended... but vast amounts of resources were exhausted by the war and a lot of the working class was now dead.. so then came famine and disease... the spirits decided this was all the elders` fault and they rebelled and imprisoned the elders in limbo
with no clear leader and very little magical protection with the elders in limbo, the ancestors descended into anarchy and it all went south with all the famine and disease and infighting and so they went extinct... so thats how it all came to be
Andioop
bruh
thats TST.ver.2.0
Eesh- why kill off the turtle :c
im sure u have a lotta questions
im here to answer them
Haven't examined the gw bones that closely yet. But most seems similar to the forest one
Well hybrid
nah thats a whale
That’s terrifying
i didnt say the forest one '
I never rlly looked at the bones
Hmmm
heylo im bacc from eating :D
.... We don't really have evidence of why we had war which saddens me
Wb!
hi bacc from eating 😄 im dad
forest is a whale, gw is « whurtles »
You'd think of all things to record for history war is pretty important to not ate
Many weapons and ruins are in the wasteland
Hmmm
So the elders/king were trying to protect the population?
@lethal stump the tst. ver.2.0 is up there
..... Say
also just wondering, can we talk about eden spoilers without spoiler tag or is that a nono
Is also said that people captured the light
i am aware, pyre
Yeah we can be eden spoiler free
@keen spire no need for spoiler tags here
But no beta
eyyyy ok ty
really all of them are whurtles? there is no basic whale bones
There are people who captured the light hmmm
Wait wait why did they start war they had the ascension beam right
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
see this quote
Season after dreams season?
the elders who tried to stop the other elders from using the ascension beam, yes
the elders that wanted to use the ascension beam, no. they just awanted to go home
:0 looks like imma change my notes
Yeah, why would full on war spark cuz some people wanted to go right now? Wouldn't they let them just go and see what happens?
Ohhh ok, I misread it
Is the ascension beam like uhhhhh I’m confused
we skids speedrun that
its the way to orbit
we don't have to wait we're literally made for it
That, and.... Wait
i got a stroke
pyre, i disagree with you on the basis that I believe the CoL/Prince/King was the first being to be reborn and after that, the rebirth gate was open to anyone in sky who passed away. but if i hypothetically agreed that he hadn’t, and that the ascension beam was seen as dangerous, sounds like an ok theory
.... When the stars and spirits fell... Did they have physical bodies?
first, they were worried the beam would destabilize and blow up and lkght creatures would stop their cycles and who know wut would happen
same reason ppl didnt like the large hadron collider to turn on... i think
plus... if gods decide stuff, especially a petty family of gods, things like that tend to happen...
remember the trojan war?
the ancestor the time they were alive?
Couple. Of swords on the way to.. You know what... Same can be seen planted near the lamp. That opens the final door in GW
ye
ye
Pyre can you answer my question next
wut is it
well its a yes then
Look at mentions
You know how we go to Eden? The big beam of light from the diamond? That