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Wait but some parts of eden are seen in other levels or areas of the game. Like the race in valley of triumph, if you do the flight one. Looks sort of like the end when you die.
Keep in mind Flos we also have one unsalvageable Eden Elder so Megan's Light is always going to be weakened even without the spirits
Also, anybody know what this is?
a bug
a bug
Oh
time to take my water shot- it was a good idea to make a drinking game outta that mural-
I didn’t know what it was either when I saw it
A bug
What even is that tho
Ohhh okay
Just a mural bug with a Prince lying down surrounded by the Elders for some reason
looks like an asset file
I was just gonna ask if it was a mural from somewhere else
you know how frustrating it is that it's just a bug hhhhh
then again I get to stay hydrated every time someone brings it up
What is with the krill and crabs?
about how new are you to the channel Kay-
Hmmm according to the intro cutscene and prophecy murals...
Do you guys think the Child of Light fell with the elders or after the elders?
New
What do you mean, the krill and crabs?
The things that attack you
I suggest looking into the pins, but the gist of it is that the krill and crabs are part of the dark ecology of the Kingdom of Sky
Yeah.... But what about it?
I believe the CoL fell after the elders
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I hear new moff
I was wondering what their deal was and why they attack you.
The doc was sent already lmao
Whether or not they're hostile to only things that emit light or they're just inherently hostile is debatable-
Haha at this point we are just questioning the reason of our life

Talk about mid life crisis- 
i mean, we don’t see them attack each other, only certain beings with light
Hmm if only krills attack each other...
sit in safe place while muching popcorn

Here a krill bout to attack manta
Because I've seen people make arguments saying they were hostile because or some environmental subtext
yeah that disproves that
I believe they do it for food and protection of their territory or both
I've seen that manta get krilled so many times just let it die already-
I mean crabs still attack us in sanctuary island
i think they’re just predators to certain animals
yknow
like in an ecosystem
~~DARK CREATURES ARE INNOCENT
~~
cause the devs have said « sky has a rich ecology of light and dark » and that would include predator/prey dynamics
Krill's habitat is extremely dark areas, its simple why their only in eden and wasteland.
Idk if we can attach innocence and guilt to something that just follows instinct, but I guess in that regard they're innocent from a moral standpoint
But like I just want to be friends with them lol
Crabs appear at caves, because they don't need that much darkness in their habitat that's why their seen in sanctuary and forest etc.
I'd say that light hurts krill, like crabs and so they stay in dark areas, and if they see anything with light, they destroy it. That's why they don't kill crabs because crabs are dark
if lights hurt krill, why eat creatures made of light 
They don't really have mouths do they? I bet they don't eat, they attack
can krill even eat
they have what look like mandibles tho
3 pairs of grabbing-appendages at their head, where a mouth would be
Plus, if they did eat light all the WL that they knocked off of us would be gone, they simply attack and desrtoy for light can't survive that long without a stable structure.
They don't really go for the WL that were knocked out of us, but we can assume that the light they took was just the energy we use for flying- the flaps
I bet it just got released along with the wl
I'm gonna go ping me if you need opinions on stuff
I'm still online so just ping meh
Don't you think like this?
Krill also a good creature... It just hate lights...
Imagine we have two side dark and light...
And we are the hybrids between dark and light...
Krill just want to protect us from getting light (momy krill don't like lights so she kick us from useless light)
And momy Megan want us to collect light and tell us that light is a good side....
Well what can we do we just a children between two side...
Momy krill only hate lights...
She can't touch that shiny Bois or she'll be destroyed by it... Anyway, this kinda like a plot twist right?
That light actually is a bad side
That's for the story.....
But both side are good it just majortically win by light coz yeah dark side use force to love us.... Hmmm poor mommy krill
Considering modern fiction loves antagonizing gods for some reason I can kind of see the light turning into some sort of villain- but that's assuming Megan is a sapient entity
I'm not sure if morality really applies to ecology in this sense, but that's just me
stares at greek, norse, christian, etc., legends
gods have done morally reprehensible stuff since the concept of gods was a thing, it’s not a « modern fiction » thing, it’s a « god » thing
I heard norse
👂
coughs in questionable christian god values
Loki tho
and sif
and Freya
and Thor
and Odin
and the 9 realms
and the tree
pretty much the entire Greek pantheon
Norse is better than greek don't @ me
You sure- Greek's overrated but it gets pretty intense-
can we just agree that gods are often portrayed as just as flawed, if not more flawed, than humans ? thus it wouldn’t be illogical to assume that if Megabird was sapient, she would be flawed in one way or another ?
like the whole idea gods are « inherently more pure » or w/e is a very abrahamic thing
this isn’t norse-discussion-spoilers 
That's not what most of my Catholic upbringing tells me- God's been diluted into an entity that can do no wrong
Right- sorry I feel like geeking out bout Norse,,,,,
and yeah- sending what are essentially children to clean up the work is pretty morally murky
if megabird is meant to mimic a god i think she’s meant to be in the spirit of the abrahamic one
hahaha yeah there you go kiddos clean this up for me and maybe die in the process... Byeeeee
or if you see it the way i do
« oh my son messed up after i tossed him into the care of 6 highly irresponsible adults...........time to make him die over and over and over again in a sisyphusian punishment while the adults who screwed him over chill in limbo and it’s his responsibility to rescue them »
i don’t see megan as a morally good person if you couldn’t tell
god that's just straight-up evil actually
i mean it’s straight-up evil to send children between the ages of 2–7 to clean up the mess of irresponsible adult gods so like
i don’t know what more we expected from megan tbh
Omg
The way I see it with my head cannon
<oh the powerful 7 adult that ruled the land destroyed it and became corrupt?
oh well let's send innocent kids made to die
if we're going to be interpreting this in an abrahamic context though is it safe to assume that the Prince feels like a failed Jesus
and all the martyr work is pretty much happening after the end
yeah i’d say the prince was a failed jesus
That's what I thought too
Sky Shop is now open, AND HAS NEW POEMS!
Forest Elder pin is so sweet
Kinda confirms a headcanon I had that Forest Elder is in stage of grief and is filled with frustration of the events that had happened in Sky, whuch us why she acts that way
Eeeeeee
wait what's this about p o e m s-
the pin poem for forest elder omgg

i need them- I need the d e e ts-
hhhhhhh
Oh, I think this implies Forest Elder has regret of what she has done to the Forest and the creatures-

ooh
hhhhhh
I hope we get pins and poems for the other elders too
Ye
wasteland 
I s l e-
"The scattered light, you broke in vain"
"No longer falls apart"
This gives me the vibe she has regret for what she has done, "breaking the light in vain"
kinda wonder what the hell the Valley twins would say to us
They never seemed to play that big of a role
An arguement
copy paste darude sandstorm lyrics
I-
Woah, one of the poems has a reference to the Northern star-
You know, Polaris
"My stardust, my northern light"
this one is my personal favorite so far
how are we not compiling these things aajkajjsjk
fhegwbghdfvhfbd
Well, we do have a doc of poems, but we'll have to add all of these to that
wait seriously-
Yeah, Brick made it
yes very snazzy
Lemme go get it
For loreeee
i'm assuming these were some kinda of beta and got cut
i'm now psyched that I don't have to screenshot all these-
OH WAIT
If you want me to
god yes-
If I do, should I include the old ones, or just the new ones?
It'd be pretty handy if we had all of them in one place
The "fly upward, to the children of light in need" line makes me pretty sure I'm right that the purpose of the skykids is to bring and rescue as many children as possible
Lads
"Don’t weep, dear Elder, we heed your heart,
Tomorrow is a new day.
The scattered light, you broke in vain,
No longer falls apart.
“Dear Child, we waited your return,
Our true savior of the sky.”
Let love and compassion deeply in,
With you, we too will heal."
Forest elder pin poem
hhhhhhh
something about the Prairie Elder's poem makes me think he definitely played a hand in Sanctuary-
Yep
and by something I mean everything about it
i mean
Also... Isle Elder says "We saw of your return to us"
Played a hand in what

ooh

that could be referring to a monarch or just the skykids demself
references the rebirth
uhh
Like, when we start the game
don't we?
Yeah we just kind of- fall
We dont
We kinda do tho we see the light fall, right?
Here is the compilation of the poems
No, we dont when we first play the game
hmm
That doesn't feel like an actual birth if you get me- even in Rebirth, we also just kind of fall the same way
But somehow, Sky doesnt show that
hmm
I remember the pre-version having a small thing with it
Someone mentioned it once
Pre-version is kinda not canon tho
i know
Aight so
The crab call cape poem is quite interesting
"Save all your whispers,
Your soothing words.
Descend to friends, soar up to birds,
Through even a long day, they wait alone,
Your crabs, they huddle, as you come home."
Im pointing out that they deliberately cut that idea
i'm sorry- 'your' crabs-
And its called as Petal cape
Hai hai im bac bac
Ello fam
Was Crab Call a crab cultivator-
Yeah, one of the previous poem about Crab pin says "Could you be a friend?"
Also Chibi mask pin is 😩👌
"Chibi, do you remember when we first met?
Chibi, the times we watched sundown?
Chibi, how I nursed you well?
Chibi, seeking me this lifetime?
Thank you, Chibi.
With you, I am not afraid."
This is the cutest hing i have ever read
that's so silly omg
Reminds me of that theory about the chibi mask spirit-
what theory??
Tell us
That's kinda depressing
TGC pin poem is quite something isnt?
"May there be sunshine in your soul,
Let the starlight be your wings,
Our memories as one."
Tell us
Idk who came up with it, but the theory is that the spirit was playing hide n seek with her kid, and one day, when the kid hid, something happaned to them and never came back...
My theory is that they played hide and seek and the girl hid, but then the seeker never found her.... They died , but the girl was patient and waited.
Oh that one
Wat-
That's why they have the chibi mask
We have the same theory

Well, similar
That poem legit feels like a Eulogy now
Imaginw you are waiting someone to find you but they already dead before they can even find you-
Oh yeah which guy is the rhythm director?
"How I nursed you" bit reminds me of that theory, cause it's like a mother and child thing in that porem
Thinking emote I think
yeah that works
What's the big tower in the middle?
What's that
vault?
Since the cape looks similar to the Thinking emote
Is that the place where the wl is?
Huh
Last area of Forest-
With a wl surrounded by 4 forest barrier
hhhh
Yes
Is that concept art?
No
It's the art from sky shop
Oh, i just got confused
Yeah
It's from thatskyshop, since it's hidden forest theme this time
Its for handkerchief
Yep
Ohhhu
No, it's just a banner
I won't be able to bring myself to wipe my anything with this thing
Handkerchiefs are different and very simple and cute
So this year is hidden forest
Next year will be valley of triumph
my wallet might wont be ready but i will surely get everything

god imagine the poem with the freaking twins-
oh please
VALLEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I wanna learn about the the twins from their poems-
I hope, since the theme of first wave was isle and prarie , now Forest, next is valley

YES YE SYE SYEBDYSBYDJDVD
the twins are and isle are my fave
I WILL GET VALLEY
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
My favorite realm and elders are forest, Teth , valley and samekht
Have you guys seen the hidden forest locket necklace?
Imagine the lore material Valley Elder pin shall give us with its poem!!!
And each time a limited box also releases, last was the anniversary box , this time, it's the box of togetherness, whose theme is hidden forest too.
:OOOO
Forest locket necklace is good.
Don’t weep, dear Elder, we heed your heart,
Tomorrow is a new day.
The scattered light, you broke in vain,
No longer falls apart.
“Dear Child, we waited your return,
Our true savior of the sky.”
Let love and compassion deeply in,
With you, we too will heal.
Foresr elder poem
Is Togetherness a nod to Season of Belonging I wonder-
wow love
love how this poem depicts the elder as compassionate
Or lightseekers-?
LOOK AT THIS
I
IKRRR
WOAHHH
ITS BEAUTIFULLL
The scattered light you broke in vain👁️👁️👁️👁️
YOOO
BUT I'M BROKE, LMAO
GOD THE SHINY- AKASJAJAK I'M IN LOVE-
oh ye the handkerchiefs are like this
Ye
Also, we're are here to lore discuss ABOUT the poem i.e. lore and not the shop items
😌
I neeeeeeeedddddd the locketss
bruh
Me toooo
okay I still won't have the guts to try and wipe anything with these-
POEM TIME-
yes
Poem
Where is the lockets from??
lore and poems
I cant find it-
I know that, but-
The box limited
@thin dirge the box thing
It's a part of box
Oj
I forgot the name
Oh
Limited box
Ahahaha I wish the next thing they sell are elder plusies, if yeah I want all of them
O-
they even get umbrella-
Where there is light,
we shall follow.
Where there are souls,
we shall seek.
Under the magical umbrella,
The friendship we shall keep
ikr
Ooh
There's also the flower cape from Lightseekers
Imagine upcoming TS being Umbrella spirit

And the portal forest one
i will surely faint in happiness
hhhhhghhhhhhh
please let it finally explain why the rain hurts-
I had a strong feeling it was gonna be thats spirit that's coming next-
I want em ear muffs petal cape and em guitar
Hear the Mantas call to us,
Drizzle mutes our way.
Rest with us under shelter,
Stay warm from cold, we lay
And the rythm mask one
We lay...?
hhhhhhhhhhhhh
Idk, I couldn't help but feel dread from that
How about we slow down and like- look at each one carefully before jumping from one poem to the next-
Mk
i need to go out. here is the compilation of the poems
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KXGeF3qEJ20eklv5ErOVWcJ66X9d0_4oFIFyKWWezPY/edit?usp=drivesdk
feel free to check
mmkay thanks Flos- see ya
Cya fellow lore-ist
Ahaha
so that's why I always have that mental image of Flos brushing their teeth 24/7
I will make sure your internet krills you
Wait, Forest Elder says "Child" while Isle Elder says "Children"...
hmm
Forest elder can't handle several moffs
Or is it the moffs can't hande forest elder 
Wait, Forest Elder also says "Waited for your return"
Omg

everything matches up
Skids being a reincarnation of Prince/King intensifies
That's not the only one! Another poem also says "What a thought it would be to meet you here again!"
Huh
OH BOY
more intensified loring
That's it, I'm sticking with my Prince theory and, AND I AM NOT LETTING GO
Skids being reincarnated Prince/King theory intensifies
Apparently you don't know how to use "O" too, butterfly :)
Woah, what Prince theory?
Hahahahhahaahahahha
I-
Yeah, the Prince=Our Skid theory, I mean
but then
O- ok
what are the other skids
Imma lurk and wait for ya'll to calm down lmao
Prince
And yes, I type without even looking at which letter I'm typing, I'm just so used to this
Prince/King's soul got shattered or something after the eden explosion and thus became Skids-?
Idk
Oh wait, actually change that to WL or something
Im with my theory that the prince put his soul into a diamond, which gathered light making a solid structure making skids
Imma just go with the flow
The other more complicated and confusing theory I had about that the skid we play as IS the Prince, with each of us having our own story, or something?
Dang, missed again

Its alright, I try to fix it as fast as I can if I notice a mistake
We are all souls of the prince, trying to make up for our mistakes by saving the fallen, therefore when we die, our soul goes to other skids trying to reunite
I still prefer the theory that either we're alone in the journey, or that only the skid we play as is the Prince
Kinda like in Journey, where you play with another player, but in the storyline, it's kinda implied its only you
I also believe that "gold boi" that we hug was the prince and we where reuniting him with his body
I'd be going for 'WL are the imprints of Prince/King's soul and we, skids are husk collecting the soul' or something
Take the last part with a grain of salt tho
Well, more like a reflection of ourselves of our past life as the Prince
Aight im back what did i miss
Also the golden boi we hug in eden is actually our reflection
Us debating about if we are the reincarnation of prince or something
Yeah I'm going back and forth with that and the prince is us theory but their simmalar in a way
Can be seen when we change our size
eeeeeeeeeeee
Should i send tge pic of me become tiny in eden?
Oki
Ok
Omg I came up with a meme
Cya later fellow theorist
Bye bye butter - fly
At least your skid know how to social distance
Parents : aww! Look their getting along!
What's actually happening : getting reborn from dying by flying rocks
are sky children actually the spirits of children that ||died|| too early?
No need to spoiler tag here dawg
it's bad word
We don't know- But there's some theories 'bout that
time is invented by clock companies to sell more clocks
Dawg is a bad word? 👀
don't worry we talk about dying here quite a lot
no, dawg is ok, but ||dead|| is bad
no really death isn't a bad thing-
@icy spruce xD
Death is fine.
They're probably uncomfortable saying it
like- we wouldn't have been able to get any discussing done here without that word-
okay if death is soo good I'm gonna massac-
just kidding
I mean- not like death is fine- as in like- it's not a bad word in the server
Don't do what the eden diamond did
what did the eden dia do?
Kill kiddos
oof
and everything in Eden
except for Krill and Crab anyway
Krills kill but everybody loves krills so
because
it does
About how new are you to the channel Fal?
Time is insignificant in realms it doesn't matter
because clock companies only raided home so far
very
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lore moff alarm- take over Chesca lmao
EVERYONE DOCSS

I DID IT FIRST

I don't like documents
Yeahhhh tough buddy-
just put the doc here
You'll need them-
DARN IT, MY LAPTOP IS LAGGING- SOMEONE PUT THE DOCSS
Me neither fal.
BUT TRUST ME THEY HELP FAL. I WAS A LORE MOFF ONCE TOO.
it's weird I'mma head out
There's more in the pins and while it isn't a requirement per say you'll get a good feel of what we talk about here
Ye
AA you guys are just scaring the lore moffs-
I-
NOOO
guys don't scare the moffffff
nooo
Noooo
Calm down
COME BACK FAL I SWEAR
Lore moff come baaackkkk
That uh- wasn't our intention, but we apologize
ITS GONNA BE FINE FAL COME BACKKKKKK
Or else we will commit 2 shield theory on you
Calm down and it'll be all fine
No seriously calm down fellas-
Fal were sorry for scaring you kiddo
Gab you were turned off by the docs too once tho
Exactly
Now let's show the power of theorizing
They'll eventually come back 
Yes
banana
Yay
i was never gone
no one can ever resist the pull of the lore for long-
Anyways, welcome back Fal
Docs are scary especially when you don't have enough data for google
(That's literally the only reason why i didnt read em I love reading)
Yeah- sorry we put all of that on you- it's sort of protocol at this point lmao
Google docs r scary cuz it aint anonymous
Check the pins and the lore moff doc. They're very helpful while we're discussing about the theories
Oh, it's anonymous
Yeye- cool Google animals and everything
Mhm
everyone would know my E l e c t r o n i c M a i l A d d r e s s
Ive never really read a doc so idk how anything works especially when I couldn't use google for a month
I still can't use google so
just copy paste the doc here
Mk
I can't blame you for being a little cautious but don't you think that's being a little paranoid Fal?
what
there's a reason they're whole d o c s
I KNOW THAT AKJAKAJK
Docs are like books but more confuzing
lol
There's a reason they're docs and one partial reason is because they're long as hell
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When it comes to canon information we have what is in the canon lore doc, and that’s about it. Like the quote above states, everything is vague:
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
We also have links to the concept art of Sky, to get an idea of what the story has been throughout the years (and to get an idea of what it might be):
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There is more information in the pins, so go check it out when you have the time. Many questions you may have will likely be answered there.
Who’s ___ ?
Want the Elder names? You’re in luck! The letters in brackets are Hebrew letters, which the Elders are named after:
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
like- I don't want to have to copy-paste the whole 49-something pages of the Theory Vault
Who’s the King?
The King is the presumed monarch of the Sky Kingdom. He is important to the lore, and is in game, just not in the way you’d expect. The little information about him comes from the concept arts and devs, so there’s lots of room for your personal headcanons. It is commonly accepted that the King is the Eden Elder. The Eden Elder is « not around to be saved anymore ».
Who’s the Prince?
The Prince is canon, it’s up to us how he affects the lore. In the concepts, he played many pivotal roles throughout the lore, I suggest reading them to find your favourite. We do not know if the Prince and King are separate or the same, that’s for you to decide! The Prince is also considered the Eden Elder at times.
« Prince and the King kind of exists, but we leave that up to you to interpret their roles in the lore »
Dev Reika
Who’s Megabird?
Megabird is an elusive character. There is lots of conflicting theories and information from the concepts. Some believe they are like the god of the Sky world, others believe they are a personification of the universe/cycle of rebirth. There’s other theories, but there’s no time to get into it. Reading the concepts would be useful to get an idea of Megabird, their development, and what they may be like in your theory.
^ In-game Megabird (possibly)
What are Power Diamonds ?
Power diamonds are those diamonds you light to open doors around the game. They play a big part in both the concepts and the current game. The canon information surrounding power diamonds is that they are related to the Sky Kingdom’s downfall.
Omg I was gonna type the. Names

Inside Jokes
Like all communities, Lore Chat has inside jokes that you probably don’t know about if you’re just joining us. Here are a few recurring ones:
Bricky is the King
Reika (Env artist) is the King
Oreo is the King
Megabird is often called ‘Megan’, a reference to one of Bricky’s typos when talking about it
The King and The Prince are sometimes referred to by misspellings like « Kang », « Keng », and « Prenc »
Happy theorizing! All are welcome!
oh my god Chesca actually went ahead and did it-
Sorry for text wall 
Us tbhk fans, when we say it we do it
cheesus Christ thats complicated
Also, don't forget to read the pins.
Very- which is why the pins are a beautiful place to be-
Yes
And don't be too intimidated, just take your time with reading
I'm not gonna copy and paste Vault theory cause like- It's long like Krill.
Krill-long
nah guys it's too weird and complicated for me
I'm sorry
That's ok
I can't find the icon you use for your pfp tho chesca its one of the icons I don't have I need to add it to my ever growing collection of anime icons

Oh, I edited my icon.
You're still welcome here anytime tho Fal
Maybe you'll catch us on a big breakthrough or something I dunno
Yes
Is fal even still here?

Idk 
Awww hush you two, don't worry
I'm sure they'll still be enjoying their time elsewhere- just not in lore chat
:((
Alright :( sniff sniff
Plus there's always new lore moffs, we'll just do better to stir intrigue next time
We should use all caps next time
Whos fal
Lore moff that came erlier

A lore moff we kind of scared away with the amount of info we have available-
Next time- we'll AMAZE them with info instead- sound good?
Yessss
Yes
Next time we should use all caps and spam docs in their face along with puns
Y E S- wait-
YEAH
Y e s
nO-
THATS THE SPIRIT!!!!!!!
N o
idk if the puns are there but my caps are ready
Oh gosh
please find me funny
Thank goodness I have a fair amount of puns
thank you
that got a chuckle out of me akjaksjka
ANYWAY-
lore time-
L O R E E E E EE E EE E
Lore- right-
:€
Heya Em
Hai
hallo
Wait.. Was that a hi?
What are u guys discussing?
So, what're we gonna talk about the lore uhh ya-
Nothing lore-related for now
Well, a while ago a lore moff went in
idk a moff came in earlier and we hit a snag so I don't remember what we were talking about before then-
how did that storm between valley and wasteland start
And well--- We kinda scarred them
I haven't seen you before em so, nice to meet cha 
With infos and all-
did it just happen because darkness and krills go brrrrrr or
hey wait yeah that's a good question actually-
@meager canyon you too ^w^
surely that storm wasn't there before things went to heck
And I kind of doubt it was just the diamond's doing
alternatively maybe the elders made it to cut krills off from the rest of the realms?? idk running on fumes of my fast food from like eight hours ago
Also, if GW and Valley were once one realm (aka, Golden Valley.) Then there were 3 elders managing that realm?
please eat-
Eats crabs
fkfjejshshs ok one sec ill get some tortilla chips


Ive let go of my theory that gw and forest had war,,, but somehow the theory is building itself back up

oh my god GW Elder had to deal with the Twins
an f in the chat for him
Yes
Gw elder seems good with children tbh
No
Hmm so it could be that wasteland was full of co2 from the industries and made the area hot?
Well not really
So I ruptured a hole thro the clouds
Perhapssssssssssss
To escape
you thought they were tired from fighting krill? nah it was from the valley twins
Mk, oobs
he wqs good with skids why nit with valley? 
Cmon
I'm not entirely sure that co2 can cause storms but the smoke could have done SOMETHING- surely-
Well the valley elders doesnt look young to me
Or maybe it was an Air Element mishap

I’m just curious abt it because the clouds in the storm recharge you like any other cloud
The Valley Elders aren't really young at all, they just LOOK that way
They're all ageless
Valley holds the air wisdom light

Perhaps its a tornado used to warn people not to go in, like a gate to warn people
Air Element used intentionally to separate the two realms maybe?
Yep, the enchantment is the orbs or something---I just call them orbs
My belief is that the Orange Light caused smoke. It can create clouds which could cover the sky and stop light from going through. A negative aspect of its abilities
was there a really bad falling out between them or something
or was it just “hey what if we made a giant whirlpool in the clouds haha jk unless”
Does that carry over to the misuse of the Fire Element btw Butter?
Ill just keep calling prophecy things wisdom lights
Like I said, its a gate to warn others
Since some clouds can be created by light
But if misued, these clouds can go dark and cover up the sky
joke theory: the Twins wanted their own space from the old man so they just created that storm to assert their independence-
sounds good to me
Oh no twins are starting their rebellious stage

Orange Light mural implies that it can create clouds and krills
Ok so are all the holes in wasteland, storms?
now that you mention that
Holes
Are*
Wait, did the Cyan light create holes in the Enchantment area?
Holes in the clouds, I mean
Maybe,
I think it does?
@thin dirge nope I purifies the air
The Cyan Light was just floating around in the spaces in between Isle and Prairie
After cyan light
And I'm not sure if we can even spot random holes in that specific place-
Anyone got before one?
Have you seen the theory where the wholes where caused by catapults used to destroy the land?
hold on lemme check real quick
I mean, Cyan light when used for the Forgotten Ark. Did it penetrate holes through the clouds? Cause I remember it was mentioned they did, but I need to be sure
@thin dirge no the holes were there before
In the skyshop selling merch, the forest elder pin has this :
Don’t weep, dear Elder, we heed your heart,
Tomorrow is a new day.
The scattered light, you broke in vain,
No longer falls apart.
“Dear Child, we waited your return,
Our true savior of the sky.”
Let love and compassion deeply in,
With you, we too will heal.
Hai nomad
Heya Nomad-
I NEED THE PIN
the tortilla chips tasted bad 
Hai Gab, Viridi
Heyo nom ad
hallo Nomad
Excuse me but can i have some explaination about the lore?
Hello chesca
Sure
@rose gorge sad
Mmkay Chesca- Gab- your time to shine lmao
Ok so, there are multiple theories out here so---beware-
:( it’s ok i will live
Wait, are you new too lore?
@night vale are u new here?
I just realised about the holes
@night vale Are you new to lore?
omfr
Yes...
Oh
It makes sense. If you look at the forest elder cutecene, the first scene she looked hopeless. Sad. I bet the light that was returned blinded her of happiness
DOCS
HAIIII
UNLEASH THE DOCS
alright everyone remain calm
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The holes in the clouds must be from the wind currents coming from Valley!
omg
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THANK YOU ALL!!♡
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butterfly that makes sneise
AND PUNS
GLAD TO HAVE YA HERE
oh darn it
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*sense
When we head to GW, we go through some whirlpool of clouds, but its because of the wind!
Ye
M E G A N
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit
CANON SKY LORE
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
THE THEORY VAULT- here's some extra stuff by the way, just take your time, we're happy to have ya here!
Darn you
hue he
MAN, YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR REALLY KNIFE, BUT WE SHOULD CUT TO THE CHASE
insert punny laughing noises

also just checked- there are indeed no holes in the Sky between Isle and Prairie
Oh gosh, I need too STAB-ilise my laptop
Also, I had a theory that the Blue Light was meant to be in Valley, so that there would be water in the rivers, which would flow to GW
Ooooo
gw could do with some nice non polluted water
When Cyan Light came in, it froze the rivers, stopping water flow to GW
Found this in the shop website
But I feel the realms are misplaced
Ya
It was misplaced, I'm talking about how the Cyan Light made a bad effect on Valley and GW
But it wasn't anywhere near either of those places?
Butters is here?

The Blue Light is meant to be in Valley, I mean
Ohhhhhh
Yeah, Im Butter 2
Ok im confused
Me too em
so what are we talkin bout
Oohhhh should I just be calling you Butter2 it looks enough like an S lmao
in sky lore
Haiiii mothman
Cyan light and Golden Valley
Heya Mothman- we're discussing the Lights
How the cyan element affected Golden Valley
Enchantment water orb is in valley, but prophecy water wisdom light is in forest, WHY
oh cool
Nah, just Butter, Butter2 if the other Butter is here
Oh, ok
has wind or water or clouds? Which symbol is it?
Hmmm, I have an idea...
"How many butter would a butterfly butter if a butterfly could butter butter?"
this ones water
No
Oh no butters has a idea!!! Get down!
😂
🤣
Oh noes

if you check out the Enchantment page on the fandom wiki, then you might get some info abt the lights
Ok got it...
Butter is gonna krill us with brain juice
Lmao
mischeviously highfives butter
I-
yet to be discussed
knowledge
fire
earth
air
woter
Somone mentioned red light is memory
wotah
that cursed red symbol
Does show the past through murals
Perhaps
But I'm kinda confused with Purple, since they do something similar, but Purple summons stuff
purple is confirmed to be knowledge
Oh god this is gonna get confusing-
Last time we matched all the lights in the cave murals to the location of the enchantment lights
I guess knowledge in the sense of spells??? And when was it confirmed btw
I read it somewhere
Hmm
I mean the purple light is in vault and it does say the knowledge awaits so
Forbidden knowledge juice
I-
But its the most likely one, or its magic

Well, we use purple light to summon bells for Sanctuary, actually
Remember when Brick said that the orbs looks like the alchemist elements thing and Purple looked like the Soap Element?
Someone mentioned here that prince ascended and broke into light pieces aka wing lights.. Is that something already explored upon? Sounds interesting as i remember devs mentioning (something in the lines) the prince is there in the game at all times but not as obvious as other elders
oh we go over that a LOT Nomad-
Feel free to start the convo again tho because we're always ready for Prince=Skid lore
Hope some season adds content to the vault which can actually start giving out knowledge to players finally
We actually gather the "memory" of the bell, which then turns into purple light. We give it to the QG, sends the purple light, which turns into the bell itself
Oh ok
Yes, I was in that convo
Season of Reading- Skids become literate beings
I too, was in that convo
Yrah
Huh
we finally learn how to freakin read
Ikr
I'm now sticking with the Prince=Our skid theory and I'm sticking to it now unless there's more evidence appearing against it-
Honkense
Some games have books that add to the lore that players can read.
Still stick with that theory
Not the Players- the skid themselves learning to read the knowledge stored in the Vault
But there's now more evidence for it than before so I'll stick to it unless lore tells me otherwise-
And we are the husk collecting their souls
Vault needs a season tbh
Because you know how everything in Vault is in containers and I'm probably reaching for that because they probably project knowledge instead of having to read through it idk
Everybody grab your crabs and you thinking masks let's head to Vault for lore

Well, point of no return area description implies the WL are from the statued descendants tho
Vault is too plain as it stands except for fancy particle effects, blurry mantas and floating stuff
TO VAULT WE GOOOO or something
I'm not sure if I can say the same becuase it's the only instance in which we see all the Elders in one place- aside from Orbit if you've completed the constellations
Get chu eyes ready there is gonna be lots o reading
Also, I had a cool idea once that maybe those kids in Eden actually went to Eden and died there because they were trying to save the Prince, that's why they're no longer there-
huh
Ooo
I'm currently sticking with that headcanon now
If we're the Prince, we're pretty much returning the favor to them, especially if the fragments are from those statues
I originally thought those kids were other REAL PLAYERS who died while doing eden, and I though when I die in eden I also become a statue
Hm it is still theorized that the fallen are the past generation of skids and we are trying to free them outa their body to be reborn with megan
Well, since they seem different from us, I believe they're not the same as our skids
ye
Someone suggested they're the REAL descendants
They're less flimsy than our skids that's for sure- they don't break after dying
We just kinda shatter
ye
Maybe that's why our kid is so deperate to get to them, especially at the end
Maybe those kids saved ours a long time ago, and our kid is just trying to do the same for them- 
Other ppl : WOW! the elders are so fun! They save the realms and megan let's skids get reborn and live again!
Us :haha elders are achient unresponsible adults and we have to clean up their mess while megan sits back and puts us into a endless cycle of pain and death
lmao
Do be true doe
I'm sure the Elders would have grown more of a conscience after being thrown into Limbo-
Also, this cutscene really does look like the Elders are bowing down to us like we're royalty...
Its what happens when a 12 ur saves a entire kingdom
Those poems make a good case for them realizing who you were when they do this
Too... much... evidence... for... theory...
what are we talking about
But the question is... if our skid is the Prince, do they remember when they were the Prince..?
You know how in shows and movies that when the main character saves the ppl the higher ups bow down BC the main character saved their ppl therefore being worthy of praise? That's what's happening
Its cool and I love that scene I feel powerfull
If they were the Prince, they would most likely would already know through the Vault Elder cutscene, but do they remember? 
Can skids even think beyond their purpose
Skids question their purpose
Oh boi
It would be like the Prince falling into an existential crisis all over again...
Oh god that's putting a image in my brain that-
skids break the fourth wall with samekht and teth while the rest try to stop em like the old moms and dads they are
Also, I mentioned this a lot, but since it seems you werent here, I guess I'll mention it
Sorry if you were and I'm just repeating this
Me?
The crown at the end of the Vault cutscene
It's meant to be the same crown from our Friend constellation-
There was a point where they were the EXACT SAME
I don't gets what chu talking bout
I've just read the pin poems and I'm screaming
The Vault cutscene, you know how a crown appears and then the Eden mural of the King comes up?
The poems make sense
Thats where i have a dystopian theory... The whole rebirth and ascending cycle was devised to keep the eden orb powered indefinitely... Orb that that seems to be ejecting power to higher ups who left the sky long back. Hence we never truly ascend, we get thrown back to repeat the cycle again
Uhhhh
I-
I'm bad at understanding things
Why would Megan be sending us on a mission to power the thing that destroyed civilization after cleaning up
Ohhh
(help am I supposed to understand this stuff?)
Ye
ye
Eden elder constellatiooooooonnnnnnn
Welp :')
That crown constellation
Assumming it WAS Megan sending us on that mission and while I think that Megan is a terrible God why would she actively perpetuate that cycle after finishing the clean-up?
Yep
I'm officially a bad theorist
It's meant to be the same as our Favorite Friend Constellation!
Ye
Ohhhhhhhhh
It's ok, I'm also a bad theorist.
maybe that's the symbol of unity because well King unites his people-
but that unity has fallen,the kingdom was detroyed through civil wars and explosion
But the friend constellation isn't a crown its a Anchor-
hhhh
Its a crown...
ye
don't worry I make unrelated crackpot theory
There's a faded out image of what it's meant to be
Its a crown with a four pointed star on top
The favorite friend constilation? Isnt taht a anchorrrrrr
ok
anchor or crown
but it's still related to the king somehow
Ye
Somebody take a screenie its a anchor
Yeah
I mean king could make an anchor and call it a crown
mk
Ill take the screenshot
Anchor
Yes, I am bankrupt in hearts- Don't judge me
anyways this
since the constellation to us is the favourite friend constellation,it shows that our relationship with these people are really stronk
I wonder if King put the elders in his favourite friend section
lol
Imagine the King having friends
I-
Ohhh I can see where you got crown but i still believe its a anchor
Butter, do you think the CoL fell with or after the elders?
also that section is called the light
idk what that means
Remember the theory I had about the murals not being in the order we thought it was in?
Im still sticking with it
That's the place where we go to for rebirth
⚓
Eh-
I can see it both ways
and the fav friend section is called that
lol
I-
king is manta
I-
That is a crown
hhhhhhhhhhhhhh
The image got altered somehow, but that is DEFINITELY a crown
ye
There's a faded out image of what the constellation is meant to be
I tried to scroll it a bit, so that it would show the faded out image only and I edited it
that fav friend constellation doesn't appear in orbit or-
Ehh I can't unsee the anchor
using manta leftover after getting sucked the light out of them?Most likely
It originally did, but got removed cause it kept showing future Seasonal constellations for some reason, I think
Clean up? I think they know the sky world is doomed hence left it. But the only thing worth it js keeping the orb powered.. Which destroys worlds i guess. So instead of having the orb in their higher realms, they still keep it in sky and let the poor sky kids power them with their souls every time
It* leaked the Enchantment constellation once
huh
so is it correct to consider fav friend constellation a part of orbit constellations or
It is the Orbit constellation, technically speaking


