#lore-discussion-spoilers | Sky: Children of the Light | Page 595

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:38 PM

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the one mural at the very top

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Bless whoever took those photos, honestly

lethal stump Nov 19, 2020, 9:39 PM

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i don’t see why tgc would make references to copyrighted material that they have no rights to, in a game entirely divorced from the ATLA world

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Not rlly related to the cartoon but has a similar concept

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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ok i feel like shiny boi is us-

lethal stump Nov 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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also there’s wayyyyy more than just ATLA who use the concept of « take the elements and do stuff with them »

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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glad galleon ok i feel like shiny boi is us-

I was also about to say. The shiny boi is doing the trials. He did all of them and so did we. We gained control of the elements too.

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@lethal stump I know I watched both ATLA and LOK bro

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:41 PM

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and the last pic looks like us leveling up a wing

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:41 PM

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i haven't watched either of those ckdkfdk

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:41 PM

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i only watched a bit of ATLA :((

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:41 PM

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One thing I do know tho is that this was planned

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:42 PM

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then my parents would switch it to HBO while i was in the middle of watching

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:42 PM

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possible ATLA references notwithstanding

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:42 PM

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glad galleon then my parents would switch it to HBO while i was in the middle of watching

That sucks

lethal stump Nov 19, 2020, 9:42 PM

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yeah, i’m gonna be honest I think it’s unfair to tgc staff to see this story they’re making and be like « oh so avatar » bc if there’s one thing that annoys creators the most it’s looking at their work and saying « oh so [mainstream story/property] »

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:43 PM

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What if the shinyboi is us? I've had this theory running around my head for a while, but what if time isn't really a solid concept in SkyWorld

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:43 PM

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lethal stump yeah, i’m gonna be honest I think it’s unfair to tgc staff to see this story the...

Wasn't necessarily what I was trying to do

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I do wonder if that's really us tho

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Eden's still whole

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:43 PM

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The last mural pic remind me of everyone giving us their wing buffs to us in orbit, then the people below ae the skykids and spirits we saved thanking us

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:43 PM

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If you look at the mountain, you can see the original Eden castle

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Which suggests that these murals are way the hell older than we are- predating our purpose

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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The shiny boy in the murals are doing exactly what we did revolving the trials so it could definitely be us

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Predating the Eden disaster

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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i-

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maybe it's a skykid before us?

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:45 PM

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glad galleon maybe it's a skykid before us?

I think that's where the prince theory comes in?

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He's like a first skid

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:45 PM

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o m g

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:45 PM

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yep highkey does- at least that's how the theory went

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Prince was some form of prototype skid

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Oh! I haven't heard the prince as the first skid before! I love that!

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:46 PM

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And that last mural was him getting coronated as King

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:46 PM

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So the prince became the king, meaning that they aren't two different people possibly

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:46 PM

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So the theory goes

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:46 PM

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The eden elder is different right?

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Maybe the kid we see in eden is the eden elder

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Possibly? But it's far likely that the Eden Elder was the King/Prince anyway

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We haven't seen any evidence that suggests otherwise

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:47 PM

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~~too long legs~~

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or i saw that wrong idk xD

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:48 PM

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plus I doubt we're gonna get much confirmation because that specific Elder is 'not around to ve saved anymore'

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:48 PM

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But when they hug us, they become part of us. So maybe the king/prince was fragmented and they made more skids out of those fragments?

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:48 PM

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And the King himself- while present- plays a hell of a vague role-

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:48 PM

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That's definitely true

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:48 PM

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That's also one of the theories Tor

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Skids are fragments of the King/Prince

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Oh okay lmaooo

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:49 PM

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idk the details tho so feel free to interpret that in ways-

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So many other ways-

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:49 PM

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so how about the kids we try to save in eden-

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I need my coffee I've been awake for too long without it-

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Also since there's a prince and a king, that means there's a monarchy. Would that mean there was a queen? Or maybe a queen was never needed since sky is different from irl.

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:50 PM

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shdjshdjshdjsd i gotta sleep in 30 mins ago

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:50 PM

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A Queen is an interesting concept tho :000

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:50 PM

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O . o

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:50 PM

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glad galleon so how about the kids we try to save in eden-

Maybe those were the first fragments that tried to restore the prince as whole?

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Even if I've never seen a trace of her in the actual concepts-

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:51 PM

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I wonder how monarchy developed in the skyverse

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Also where is the Eden elder

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I have this lore piece that I still have to add to the collective doc, but that kinda detailed some stuff about the monarchy

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100% speculation on my part tho

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:52 PM

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two theories popped up for me about the eden children thingy hhh

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Share!

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:55 PM

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The kids in eden are connected to darkness without light, we give them the light we have so they become reborn.
The same thing happens for us if we die, but who gives us the light? But we don't just freeze there when we die unlike the others, our blue soul gets exposed, i still dunno how to use that info

And maybe the kid we hug in eden is the first skykid

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nvm they were questions xD

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Yeah I always wondered why we were different than the skid corpses in Eden, where our souls or whatever go to orbit

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Maybe they were a previous generation of skids

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 9:56 PM

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maybe they were the original skykids with a strong body, and we are just fragments so we easily brake

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Yeah

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But they don't seem strong

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They seem weaker

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Some of them die before reaching the end of Eden

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Piggybacking off of FineTyler, what if the stone kids were failed experiments to make skids out of the red/dark crystal?

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Which ended up not working at all, and they turned to stone

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And us giving them our light, maybe flushes that light darkness out?

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 10:00 PM

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sky kids used for experiments? :((

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i- is that what they meant by prophecy-
they think that there is a future to be seen within the sky kid's?

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:01 PM

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That makes sense tor

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 10:01 PM

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so they experiment on them?-

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is that how the power diamond was formed-

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or is that different-

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I thought we are a descendant of "megan" sjdhjsdhjsfh

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Nah we are. The other skids in Eden could be different tho.

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Different origin

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 10:03 PM

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they probably tried to make their own skykids

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actually nvm-

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:03 PM

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That's the idea I was going for, yeah

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 10:03 PM

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cuz like

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omg how do i explain-

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like they seem so real when we try to rescue them

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 10:05 PM

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i've returned to power diamond skid theory-

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 10:05 PM

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wait im viewing too much thoughts someone pls clarify sdhjdhf

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:05 PM

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They probably were real. Maybe they even walked around and did stuff, but could only be around the vicinity of the Red Crystal, which was in Eden. And when that shattered, they turned to stone?

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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queen locust i've returned to power diamond skid theory-

Most popular there is loooool

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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So your take is that the failed ones ran on the power of the Eden Diamond?

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Yup, that's my theory

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Kinda wonder what their purpose was back then- or maybe it's another case of playing god

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Making artificial life

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i'm just picturing the King having a mold somewhere like 'yes making kids like this is definitely a good idea it's so lonely up here'

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Lonely king just wanted to be less lonely when all the elders descended stickerHug

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 10:09 PM

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he couldn't find a Queen for this-

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Or maybe this is how they normally make children idk- Elder Biology is weird

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I always assumed they were made out of light, so when they descended they maybe stored their bodies in shaped stones?

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I guess they came up with the idea for skids that way?

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Light in a vessel of made of darkness was one of the things I saw pop up

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:12 PM

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That could actually be a solid theory tho!

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 10:13 PM

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oh wait was that for the Elders-

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Heck that's actually plausible-

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:13 PM

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It really is!

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Becuase so far all we know about it is what it isn't- Elders are not the same as Ancestors, nor is a Skykid the same as either of those

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There was a chart somewhere that explained this- Elders leaning on the darker side of the spectrum

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Well since we never really see the "bodies" of Elders, it was the Ancestors that took up the darkness forms?

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I've been stumped before on Ancestor biology and I still can't figure it out so I'm lost on that front

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

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so the relive spirit thingy was all set up as well?

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I guess? Because all the Ancestors share the same texturing as the skids in Eden

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But I don't know if that was a form of preservation or they really just died like that

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Tearful Light Miner definitely died in their memory, but what about the others?

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Maybe the Ancestors' bodies came after the skids stuck in Eden? They were a much better form that could survive outside the influence of the dark crystal, but when that shattered, they died as well?

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Lots of gaps in there, but maybe it's a possibility?

glad galleon Nov 19, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Maybe that's how they discovered how to keep someone's memory? Though hardening their bodies and reliving them with light?

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I love that idea tho

rapid juniper Nov 19, 2020, 10:29 PM

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What happen

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 10:32 PM

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several things-

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but those happened before my coffee hours so I'm lost

rapid juniper Nov 19, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Understandable

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Lots of cool theories were presented lol

lyric isle Nov 19, 2020, 10:44 PM

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this is just Hollow Knight
"deity creates beings filled with a substance made with the intent to attempt to repair a broken kingdom that another leader ended up destroying"

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:46 PM

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~~ngl a lot of my theories are lowkey based off of my crackpot theories for dark souls, so~~

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 10:47 PM

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instead of void it's just light lmao

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Exactly lool

hushed steeple Nov 19, 2020, 11:12 PM

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About the whole setup thing; I think it all was setup for skids to adventure this ancient civilization that has come to an end. The elders and spirits don't want their history, society, people, art, creations, inventions, and etc to be forgotten, and I think megabird wouldn't want all of that to be forgotten about either since they're a creator and created the sky world so they created the sky kids to start a new society and relive what once was a full developed world.

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I hope I explained that well enough

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Many people don't want to get forgotten about once they pass, and they want people to remember what they all did in life

short owl Nov 19, 2020, 11:15 PM

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So we're back to being little reapers...

versed shuttle Nov 19, 2020, 11:21 PM

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So i came up with a theory that the kid you hug at the end of eden is the eden elder’s soul

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Because its completely wrecked so maybe the elder died too

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Tbt my dream where each realm crumbled as well-

thin dirge Nov 19, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Dont need to spoiler, since this is a spoiler chat, you don't need to spoiler things, unless if its beta content, all beta content stays in beta channels-

haughty talon Nov 19, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Does anyone know the lore behind the murals in forgotten ark?

vestal swift Nov 19, 2020, 11:38 PM

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That was a discussion here about a week ago

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I have forgotten most of it however 😅

haughty talon Nov 19, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Let me search here then. Thanks!

rapid juniper Nov 19, 2020, 11:42 PM

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versed shuttle So i came up with a theory that the kid you hug at the end of eden is the eden e...

Well uhm we have said it’s our light self

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Also they have same height

versed shuttle Nov 19, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Our lore just isnt the same then xD

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Well

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Our headcanons

rapid juniper Nov 19, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Lol yes

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 11:47 PM

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vestal swift That was a discussion here about a week ago

All I remember is that ya'll speculated that kreb angry because the guys from the Ark took their water or smthn

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If it's the murals on the Ark itself however-

haughty talon Nov 19, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Yeah the lore is fine. I mean the murals on the ark itself... Has anyone documented that? Looks something related to current season? As they contain the coloured stars 🌟 on them like cave murals

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 11:50 PM

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📎 SKY_20201022_063243_.jpg 📎 SKY_20201022_063314_.jpg 📎 SKY_20201022_063354_.jpg

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these were the murals I had on hand

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See the guys with umbrellas and hats? Those were probably the Lightseekers

haughty talon Nov 19, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Oh wait yes not colored stars but looks like they are taking wind, fire water etc to somewhere

livid valley Nov 19, 2020, 11:51 PM

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morning chat

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Morning Meow

vestal swift Nov 19, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Didnt butter write an essay on that

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Yep- lemme find it real quick

haughty talon Nov 19, 2020, 11:51 PM

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So. They were sent with the lights? Or sent to seek the lights?

vestal swift Nov 19, 2020, 11:52 PM

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I think they were sent to deliver them but krill happened

haughty talon Nov 19, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Then why r they light seekers?

vestal swift Nov 19, 2020, 11:52 PM

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No idea lol

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 11:52 PM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/14uVgsmI5GTpanqaXUdLWZLg2ZLiP6FfGr44fZYi6Zww/edit

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Credits to Butter

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Anyway- I think they're the Lightseekers mostly because of the ornaments they carried- the Umbrellas that were unique to that Season

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Plus, don't the colored lights from Ark resemble the colorless lights from the 'catch the light in _' quests

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I mean- those colored orbs must have been made from SOMETHING

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You see the guys in hats giving them to scholars in the murals I sent

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And the scholars in turn making something new out of them

haughty talon Nov 19, 2020, 11:58 PM

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queen locust You see the guys in hats giving them to scholars in the murals I sent

So could it be that the prince originally gave them few colored lights (4 to be exact from prophecy murals) then the elders grew greedy and asked/tasked the traders to seek other lights so they can have more power... Prince Eden the all seeing god like the eye in lord of the rings saw this and destroyed the ark before they can be delivered to the realm elders? Starting the war?

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 11:58 PM

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the Prince is Sauron confirmed lmao

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the King always did give off tower of Sauron vibes-

haughty talon Nov 19, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Yeah

queen locust Nov 19, 2020, 11:59 PM

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That'd require that the Prince had sovereign over krill tho- because wasn't it a krill that took down the Ark?

haughty talon Nov 19, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Because the ark seems to have had multiple coloured lights not just the 4 elemental lights from the prophets

haughty talon Nov 20, 2020, 12:00 AM

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queen locust That'd require that the Prince had sovereign over krill tho- because wasn't it a...

Sorry new to the lore group... Wasn't the dark creatures his creation?

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:00 AM

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queen locust That'd require that the Prince had sovereign over krill tho- because wasn't it a...

sits quietly in headcanon that the prince has several pet krills

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also we know almost nothing about krill’s

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:01 AM

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belly rubbing mech

haughty talon Nov 20, 2020, 12:01 AM

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I mean like all bad guys. Bad guy doesn't get involved.. Sends his henchmen

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:01 AM

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We might not know much about krill but we do know that they're easily aggravated

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:01 AM

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the mech was made solely for giving krills belly rubs, yes

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:01 AM

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probably from being touch-starved

haughty talon Nov 20, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Ooh what about krills also being 'light seekers' eh? Prince playing a pun on the elders and sending out light seekers to krill them

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:02 AM

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their bellies haven't been rubbed for eons

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:02 AM

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tgc give skykids king mechs to give the krills belly rubs

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they deserve it

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those poor babies have been flying around endlessly without any love or affection TOO LONG and i WILL NOT STAND FOR IT

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:03 AM

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We WOULD if they didn't yeet us into a wall every time we try-

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:03 AM

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#GiveKrillsBellyRubs2020

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Wow butters essay makes sense

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:03 AM

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and yes I am one of those people who runs straight into krill for no reason

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:03 AM

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i await the day when rather than attack me, krills just roll over like a doggo and i pet them

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:04 AM

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god won't that be a sight-

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:04 AM

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anyways
back to lore
krill love shall go somewhere else SkyDance

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:04 AM

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right well- the krill are easily aggravated-

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Who's to say they don't knock over ships

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Carrying a ton of light

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:05 AM

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and they do seem to get « impatient »

haughty talon Nov 20, 2020, 12:05 AM

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lethal stump also we know almost nothing about krill’s

Any info on the krill drawn in prophecy area?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:05 AM

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karen

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for some reason the name just stuck- we call that specific krill Karen-

haughty talon Nov 20, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Karen the krill? 🤔

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:06 AM

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And idk I've just interpreted it as 'oh hey so krill DID exist even way back when'

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:06 AM

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yeah, i think that krill is just there to say « krills existed then »

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:07 AM

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But because of its size compared to everything else in the mural some people have interpreted it as a possible sign of mega krill

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 12:07 AM

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hallo, ya'll talking 'bout karen the krill?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Yep-

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Karen time

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Also heya Chesca

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:07 AM

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queen locust But because of its size compared to everything else in the mural some people hav...

has no one considered the fact that even in game, krills are ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE
like of course krills would be drawn large
because they’re huge

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:08 AM

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That's what I thought too dkskxjsj

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It could have also just been a perspective thing

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And idk if people were just running straight into a krill just being like 'let's measure the size of this gigantic thing'

haughty talon Nov 20, 2020, 12:09 AM

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queen locust But because of its size compared to everything else in the mural some people hav...

Oh mega dark krill vs mega light bird/krill.. Yin-yang

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:09 AM

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It's old so maybe they just caught a glimpse of it and interpreted it as a gigantic thing

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:09 AM

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i mean sounds like something humans would do

steady pollen Nov 20, 2020, 12:09 AM

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lethal stump #GiveKrillsBellyRubs2020

bet the “spikes” arw actually fur

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so

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soft krill

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:09 AM

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furry shrimp monsters

glad galleon Nov 20, 2020, 12:09 AM

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but why they sound so metal-

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:10 AM

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that is the worst way you could have said that, Viridi
thank you

haughty talon Nov 20, 2020, 12:10 AM

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glad galleon but why they sound so metal-

They have a sharp eye sight?

steady pollen Nov 20, 2020, 12:10 AM

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deep voice at age 1 i guess

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not even a full krill just deep voice

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:11 AM

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krill have pretty much no peripheral vision beyond their spotlight eye

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:11 AM

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no, they can sense us above them

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:12 AM

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. God now I have to take that into account the next time I try flying absurd heights over Graveyard

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And by absurd I mean directly above krill

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 12:13 AM

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also debatable if it’s canon since it might be a bug BUT, sometimes krills can spot you when you’re in their general area
like once I was walking beside the broken temple krill ~~who i named Tzufit~~ and even though i was just beside her (and nowhere near her spotlight) she spotted me

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 12:14 AM

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that bug is horrible

thorn trout Nov 20, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Did Bricky convince y'all to love the krills pPopcorn

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Isn't it that sometimes even when you're under their direct line of sight they can't see you- because I'm convinced that's a bug and I wasn't behind anything

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:14 AM

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thorn trout Did Bricky convince y'all to love the krills <:pPopcorn:712423924633174077>

and ye maybe

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:15 AM

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So I did my exploration roure in isle and Valley. And I think I know whay this symbol stands for.

📎 SKY_20201120_011152_.jpg

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:16 AM

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What does it stand for then?

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Light

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 12:16 AM

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nice

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:16 AM

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in the form of accessories and instruments?

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:16 AM

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I do have backup for this claim.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:16 AM

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I wonder why accessories are under that symbol

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:16 AM

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No just light

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See. The jars were used to store light. In shaoe of butterflies, or light.

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📎 SKY_20201120_014011_.jpg 📎 SKY_20201120_014342_.jpg 📎 SKY_20201120_014306_.jpg

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Notice the staff, that is similar to isle elders staff. It wasn't elder specific item.

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The villagers were catching light with light catchers and by charming the butterflies. Later used in their technology.

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The yawning shipwright bas loads of these barrels, and they were shipped to upper cities.

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📎 SKY_20201120_013301_.jpg

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:19 AM

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I wonder how those staffs became firework sprouts throwers

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:19 AM

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idk ask Saluting Captain-

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 12:19 AM

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I-

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Perhaps as light emmiter for ships. I haven't gotten that far

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But, get this.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:20 AM

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maybe they were that world's version of flares?

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:20 AM

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The yawning shipwright was battling with dark in his workshop. And it is canon that dark consumes light. Perbaps darkness was a natural occurence.

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Not caused by the crystals, well maybe partially, because it is atracted to light, not crystals in particular.

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Crystals store energy, or light for better terms.

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Both are essential, both were used.

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Now here is my most interesting finding.

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This argument.

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One of them is a miner, the gray one. And the other one is the spirit, denying the mining, and explaining how "things are done here" light is supposed to be sent upwards. In animation, the spirit declinezx and points at the picture. There are two identical murals as well.

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📎 SKY_20201120_010042_.jpg 📎 SKY_20201120_005858_.jpg

willow shoal Nov 20, 2020, 12:25 AM

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pPopcorn

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Repetition, means that this part of the story is quite important. Theblight was carried forwards, for possible utilization.

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So, if we connect what we know. The two shield theory. And the vault findings.

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Crystals could be used to store energy, and memory. Light is energy, and can create living beings like butterflies (village elder) and both can be used together to form contraptions.

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Without light, doors wont open. Doors have crystals in them. With on exception of vault grave area and phropecy cave, all doors have crystals in them, that have to be activated by light.

livid valley Nov 20, 2020, 12:28 AM

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👀

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:28 AM

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This explains why both symbols are used, especially by GW elder.

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 12:29 AM

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pEyes

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:29 AM

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The supposed "sun" or "star" is actually light. The diamknd is the crystal. That cracks the symbolism. Now we get stuck to shields.

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I am yet to explore forest and valley, but, and hopefully, especially forest could bring me more answers.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:30 AM

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PepeEyes

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 12:31 AM

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nice

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:31 AM

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But one thing is clear, the sun doesn't sound for nature, as light atracts darkness. It could have a more religious meaning. It does create life, and does come from sky.

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My guess is.

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There were those who want to use the light, and those who wish to return it.

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Which may explain, why we have to return the winged lights.

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There are some plotholes I am yet to fill. But this is what I got for now. Sorry.

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SkyBow

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:33 AM

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CH_clap

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:33 AM

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that doesn't warrant a sorry- that warrants aPPLAUSE-

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 12:34 AM

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SkyClap

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Also, this does explain couple things. I did mention that vault archive was broken into, right? And speculation was valley elser because of these:

📎 SKY_20201118_222444_.jpg

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Plus I haven't seen the murals from Rejecting Voyager or Ushering Migrant in a while-

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or at all

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Since jars hold light, it may have been used for mending instead. Someone or something else would have broken in.

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I do believe that those murals are key, especiall the pointing piligrim. Did you know the piligrim was renamed?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:37 AM

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BOI I'M NOT SURE THAT'S OUT IN LIVE YET

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:37 AM

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"For narrative purposes"

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Sorry

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:37 AM

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o. o

livid valley Nov 20, 2020, 12:37 AM

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spoilers?

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Ohno

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:37 AM

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I do think I read it on updates tho.

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 12:37 AM

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uhoh

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Beta is nice for theory fodder and all but it's forbidden here

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 12:37 AM

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spoilers

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:37 AM

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o .o

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Well, nevertheless, the murals are in live still

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Until it's live we're not allowed to talk about it

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:38 AM

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I dont know what that thing means and how to tie it in anyway

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Just be careful next time I guess

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:39 AM

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There are two more pictures I wish to share.

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rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Oooooooooooo

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Hehe the first picture there looks like a stickman

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Oh crap those things that we never found out the meaning for

livid valley Nov 20, 2020, 12:39 AM

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hushed steeple Hehe the first picture there looks like a stickman

now you mention it yes

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Leftovers from beta- but we did recieve the go-ahead for interpreting them

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 12:40 AM

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ye

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:40 AM

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The cave one looks similar to the isle constelation, however... notice the rocks in it.

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I did check, but I can real quick.

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Well, if we dont take in the missing star, the two pont out ushering migrant and pointing piligrim. What makes interesting that both spirits had these murals jn their sequences.

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Both were leading us towards the temple of the isle.

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Yes

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:44 AM

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I believe it may serve as a map or explanation, that directs whoever views them in what has to be done. And I have idea why.

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Whilst one side may have wanted to send light back, and the other used it for crystals. Both had one common interest.

livid valley Nov 20, 2020, 12:45 AM

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hm

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:45 AM

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The vault (center for crystals) is near the top of the mountain. The murals show that the way to send light back is by the mountain. Coincidentally eye of eden as the tip of the mountain.

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So both sides had interest to send light to the mountain, which may be why the first areas dont have signs of massive disputes. I think the difference rose on how to use the creation that is eye. For energy, or sending the light back. And that may be the key point that broke out the disputes, and in the midst broke their creation somehow, creating the cataclysm.

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Still, I hope to find more in re examining GW, forest and valley.

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Forest, i hope, will hold a meaningful answer.

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ANIkannaPeer

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What do you think?

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:50 AM

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I took a screenshot today and feel like it relates kinda to what you're talking about but I also worry it's useless

Also, your theories are in depth and make sense

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Do share. Every detail helps.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Was wondering if any object or detail here was lore worthy or stuck out

📎 SKY_20201119_113854_.jpg

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 12:52 AM

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There's staffs right there-

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Yeah

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That sticks out to me

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And the darkness plant sprouts

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Funnily enough:

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hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:52 AM

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:0!!!

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I do think that the sprouts are darkness, that fed on the stored light. Since they serve a nartative, we cannot burn them, I think. We should, but we can't, I think because they serve this story.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:54 AM

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So do the darkness plants eat light

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:54 AM

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That is confirmed, yes.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 12:54 AM

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oo

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Not "eat" as per se, more like, consume it in some way. Drain it.

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Stairs, actually also are pretty important.

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Because they do give me some interesting question regarding vault.

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The only places you find in vault are in the main area, table area and the broken in part of the archives. And. Spirits in vault use telekinesis.

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Yes

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:58 AM

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This means that vault was used by public, where it was allowed. And mainly served to store memories. As it served to store memories.

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Yes

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Now. We know that vault ascention is a dream like statez and here I have to credit snowpaw for helping me.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Vault reminds me of the Library of Alexandria

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:00 AM

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When you ascend the vault, the architecture changes. Starting from manta level. Forest architecture, and then Valley achitecture. I think I shared it before.

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But Vailt narrative could be witnessing a memory of a life. And as further we ascend (as each constellation does show stages of life.) The areas get messier, emptier and more bleak.

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Leading that the vault does simbolize mind falling into dementia due to old age. And that does hand in hand with the dark narrative of GW (war and old age) and Eden (death)

tiny portal Nov 20, 2020, 1:02 AM

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= SeasonBelonging ?

📎 SKY_20201119_200155_.jpg

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:03 AM

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/yep

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/same shape

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Well thatvis what I have got so far.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:03 AM

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/the instruments too!

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:04 AM

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In the vault once we ascend to meet the vault elder, the cutscene shows all the elders together. I do believe strongly that skids exist so that the elders live on by memory.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:04 AM

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/and the spirits?

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Yeah

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Well, I did theorize (however it is not compete) that skids were created by the Ancestors. Not living in a way. Note how they dont show hunger or thirst, nor do they eat.

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Their purpose, I believe is to return thenlight. Wing lights, serving as their "souls" or light as in energy

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Ultimate goal: to live on.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:06 AM

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I did type something earlier that I want to see more input on

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"About the whole setup thing; I think it all was setup for skids to adventure this ancient civilization that has come to an end. The elders and spirits don't want their history, society, people, art, creations, inventions, and etc to be forgotten, and I think megabird wouldn't want all of that to be forgotten about either since they're a creator and created the sky world so they created the sky kids to start a new society and relive what once was a full developed world."

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Sure.

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I believe there is truth in that idea.

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Memory was very important to them, due to vault's purpose. Death was something that they did fear, or at least respect. It may be dangerous, but I can share the premise of religion.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:07 AM

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/is megan someone created by the elders

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/she does all the rebirth

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/stuff-

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Megan I think, came before.

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The mural by the office entry does lead towards it.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:08 AM

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/hmmm

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/how canon is office

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I did have an idea, that megan essentially was something like big bang for everything and for life.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:09 AM

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/"bug bang"

tiny portal Nov 20, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Each memory is in the place it belongs pEyes pEyes

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Is it tho? Archives were broken in. Archives means that memories were placed there, never to be seenz or rarely to be seen by officials. Someone broke in. For one or another, memory wasn't in the right place.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:10 AM

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gilded fossil /how canon is office

Office ain't canon in any regard-

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just a fun lil' Easter Egg

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Is Megan even real or are they a God that people in the sky world simply believe in?

Although we do see them in orbit, what if that's just a figment of the skids' imagination, unless Megan is canon?

Ofc, it is believed that Megan made the skids which is past the older civilization so

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Perhaps archives serve another story, of inability of letting the past go. Breaking in, to steal it.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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/steal what really?

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Memory

tiny portal Nov 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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And maybe that lost memory solves all this lore cSighSkymii

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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/how would they activate it?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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It's forbidden knowledge sealed off from the rest of the world- who wouldn't be after such a precious thing

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Archives are said to store memory and were not to be accessed.

short owl Nov 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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What if those memories are the elders we get to meet?

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:12 AM

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/oooh

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/archives

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/are the elder's memories

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:12 AM

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that's- a very new and weirdly plausible one-

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:12 AM

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/the regular ones are for the regular spirits!

short owl Nov 20, 2020, 1:12 AM

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We would have the question "who stole them" but... I may have an idea.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:13 AM

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/the prince?

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:13 AM

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They don't have to be strictly elders. The light peopke and crystal people may have had their differences. Maybe some other official was sought for?

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:13 AM

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@keen kettle Part of your theory from earlier is that light stores energy and memory into crystals, right? Well, since skids are made of light, would that mean they have the memories of spirits and elders, essentially making them reincarnations or share (part) of the same consciousness with elders/spirits?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:13 AM

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The Kingdom doesn't really have much of a clear hierarchy with regards to who's in charge

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Who else's memories would be held in high regard but the indisputable Elders?

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:14 AM

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hushed steeple <@493052192606126083> Part of your theory from earlier is that light stores ener...

Yes, but. Skids stary off as naive. They have to re learn emotions from spirits. Either they don't serve that purpose, or are unfinished.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Unfinished sounds kinda accurate

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For some reason

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:15 AM

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queen locust Who else's memories would be held in high regard but the indisputable Elders?

People who know things, they shouldn't know?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:15 AM

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And who do you propose those might be Lime?

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:16 AM

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queen locust And who do you propose those might be Lime?

Anyone, whonmay have endangered the vault, or the civilisation perhaps. Each ancestor was an individual, who felt, lived and had opinions. I dont think the archives missingbmemory has a definitive answer.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:16 AM

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/vault scholars

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/wait hold on which spirit was in the archive

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Possible. Maybe someone who had memory extracted. Someone who wanted information. Someone who didn't want that information to be there. An act of desperation? All are valid options.

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:17 AM

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gilded fossil /wait hold on which spirit was in the archive

Unknown

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:19 AM

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/wise stance iirc

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/what was he doing there

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Wise Grandparent what the heck

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Wise stance is on 3rd floor.

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Not the archives

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No spirit memory is in the archives location. Only 2 wlz and signs of break in. As well as signs of attempts power the crystals.

short owl Nov 20, 2020, 1:21 AM

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The king, the col, the one who in concepts was practically part of the mountain... Could we have been moved from the concept "Kids save the prince from the king" timeline to "King gets sealed away with memories" timeline? Having someone imprisoned in a room would make it pretty strictly forbidden. After spending who knows how long locked in a room with nothing but memories, they may have freed themselves - slowly reconnecting with others via living and reliving old memories that weren't as unfortunate as the reality they had been bound to for ages.

Note though, that the darkness wouldn't have gone away - the bad things still happened and the hurt was still there, it would just have been a change of what had control.

Even with the memories though, I would imagine being locked in a small room for the rest of their life would be no fun, so they would have tried to free themselves another way as well - by breaking out of the memory cell. They likely took the ones they treasured most and tried to send them back to The Bird, but failed because that link was broken.

The next logical thing would be to remind the memories of themselves, in hopes that that leads to them just kinda going the usual way. This also failed.

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sorry it took ktime to type

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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keen kettle Not the archives

📎 unknown.png

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/ya sure friend?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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gilded fossil

i can confirm I'm watching the vid for this now

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he is somehow in Archives

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:23 AM

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/oh would that mean the red pop rocks be memories

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/iirc someone once told me here that everything that drains us is just memories

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Vault isnt a prison, its a storage. For memories. I doubtba physical being was kept there.

short owl Nov 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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not sure whiere yuo heard that but it could make sense

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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/someone here

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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I see vault as a library

short owl Nov 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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the red rocks being memories

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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First:

📎 SKY_20201118_222444_.jpg

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Oh was this the thing from the red light

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Being memories and stuff

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📎 Screenshot_20201120-092342.jpg

short owl Nov 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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If the red rocks are memories, they're probably the ones full of hurt

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Who ever wanted to relive these memories needed a powersource (light)

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Also here's grandpa

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in the Archives

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Seccond, ladders were used. So it wasnt as powerful being as the high end vault spirits, since they used levitation.

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Oh, that spirit.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:25 AM

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/so, regular old grandpa can handle right?

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/~~off topic but like fricken sickkkk cape~~

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:27 AM

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For this guy to have even gotten in- he could have been an old scholar of the Vault, a high-ranking one

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high enough to have access to the most forbidden of knowledge

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:27 AM

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He doesnt seem to entwmer this whay, which does make me think is the break in point.

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Maybe the gramps was trying to clean things up, I'll look up his memory.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:28 AM

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/and he has a family to feed

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/probably his job too

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Hes retired Jen

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:29 AM

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This is so cool

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:29 AM

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he doesn't look retired in the memory-

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:30 AM

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I'm guessing these are manta eggs but what if they aren't?

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gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:30 AM

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/aaaah

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/sorry random just a regular easter egg

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Lmao

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:30 AM

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/it's not connected to lore, but feel free to go nuts with the eggs

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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I'm sorry I thought it was an crab egg or somethin

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Well its cool and its wierd

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Easter eggs.... Literally

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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idk about you guys but I could really go for some scrambled eggs rn

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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What are those things underneath the eggs

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Those pieces

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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/ooh

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Rocks

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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/good question

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Pieces

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:32 AM

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They're decorated

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What exactly are winged lights?

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Some of them

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:32 AM

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/since they have the game texture for the buildings

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Imma take random screenshots in random areas and post them here sometimes so that people can talk about them to connect them to lore

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Cool

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:33 AM

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/common theory for the winged light is that "prince's memories" and "megan's stuff leftover"

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Okay. I say, gramos was examining the situation. He doesn't show signs of distress or enters the wooden stair room.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:33 AM

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I'm fascinated by this game and want to learn more of it

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:34 AM

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By any chance, are you new to the channel @hushed steeple ?

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:34 AM

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Yes

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Very

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:34 AM

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The link man

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:34 AM

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We have documents if you want to go over those

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:34 AM

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Oh thanks

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:34 AM

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But do take them with a grain of salt. They are theories.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:34 AM

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https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
HELLO NEW LORE MOFF- credits to Bricky
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit
CANON SKY LORE
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
THE THEORY VAULT

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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/the lore moff doc lem-

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Well I think anything in this game could be cannon

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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/wow

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Y e S

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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heck yeah got here faster than Chesca-

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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You guys should pin those documents

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Oh they are-

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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O

short owl Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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We are not the pin master

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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They're in the pins, except for the Lore Moff Doc

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Yes

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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/we cant pin the moff doc yet

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Hello mod

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:35 AM

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But the moff doc is a very good place to start regardless

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Yes

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:36 AM

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@hushed steeple what is in the game is cannon. Our interpretations of those things, however are just theories.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:36 AM

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It's not required by any means, but it helps to get a feel for what we discuss often in this place

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As well as what's canon by word of god-

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:36 AM

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/office tho

short owl Nov 20, 2020, 1:36 AM

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You mean word of Megan

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:36 AM

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/office isnt canon

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:37 AM

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oh right how silly of me- Megan worshipping troopers we are

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Well yeah

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Office is different lore. stickerMad

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Joffrey

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What

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Miffed

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What

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Not really- there's the posters, but those hold the concepts for the game and not much else

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:37 AM

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/rizel what is it?

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Every time I said moff

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:38 AM

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It's great for measuring heights tho ngl

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skids are teeny tiny

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Well, the office posters do confirm the life symbolism of the game.

short owl Nov 20, 2020, 1:38 AM

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not me, I'm a blasphamer. I fully believe and will inject into every theory I can a way for the megabird to be evil

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:39 AM

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short owl not me, I'm a blasphamer. I fully believe and will inject into every theory I ca...

how are you making this sentiment so mutual-

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I don't even consider megabird in my theories. I work from what I see.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Megan is a block of salt- only being seen as a giant chunk of light that's vaguely shaped like a bird

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Yes

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pBuffMoth

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:40 AM

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So honestly I don't blame ya for not inserting the divine intervention salt-

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:40 AM

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I will of course let you know of what I find in forest.

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A possibility: valley was a competition between crystal and light folk. A competition that broke into a war later. But I need more evidence.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:41 AM

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There does exist an imbalance of wealth in Valley if that helps

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Separated between the working class and high society

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Which could also bring an idea, that dora and kakashi were on different ideas of how to use light.

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For examplez the citadel is enigmatic for me.

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The bird altar, the spheres.

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aorrery

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Amillary Spheres- or smthn spelt along that vein

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So what about Citadel is sus

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Thay were in older times used in observatoriums.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:44 AM

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/looking at the stars

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/and know where they are

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/were they waiting for the next star to fall?

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Advancing from this

📎 SKY_20201120_012545_.jpg

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To this

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aorrery

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:45 AM

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/lime ya know, it was an old beta quest

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:46 AM

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It's open to interpretation- one of the devs came in to clarify that it's okay if we came up with lore reasons for the beta leftovers

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Well, valley is a more advanced city than the village.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:46 AM

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I think it was Ash but it's been a while-

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:47 AM

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/actually i recommend sitting there and you can here the place dings like when you meditate

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Plus, I am yet to explore the valley fully.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:47 AM

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yep it was Ash

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:47 AM

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/oh yea can you fetch some pics for the patterns seen in valley?

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Naturally. But I'll do forest first. Following the story may bring better understanding for me.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:49 AM

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/patterns are interesting

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:50 AM

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I do have another hypothesis for the spheres. Note how skid heals in the area. Maybe the spheres are used for light difraction, to focus it in some way. However i reckon the lack of crystals there may debunk it.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:51 AM

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/birbs

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Citadel is actually a lot bigger than we see in in Valley- so I won't push away the possibility of it being powered by power diamonds away just yet

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:51 AM

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/i say, the spheres acttract birbs

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/birbs heal you in there

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:52 AM

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gilded fossil /i say, the spheres acttract birbs

You see birbs leaving for the race area. The cidatel foes have a strong connection to the place due to the altar howevet.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:52 AM

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We don't always have birds with us though, we just kind of heal

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:52 AM

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/ohh?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:52 AM

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In the vicinity of the Citadel at least

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Exactly

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:53 AM

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So the kingdom of Light fell to darkness but how?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:53 AM

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several reasons that could have culminated in the destruction of the Eden diamond-

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:54 AM

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/i think it was the eden diamond

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/oh

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/fell in submition to darkness?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:54 AM

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There's too many interpretations of the whole story to recount so I'll leave it to these guys-

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:54 AM

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/we seem to have had a war

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:54 AM

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So the eden diamond is the source of the lands darkness

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:55 AM

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hushed steeple So the eden diamond is the source of the lands darkness

Darknes was there before the eye of eden became a storm.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:55 AM

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And when the darkness touches the rest of the world it forms plants

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:55 AM

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The world of Sky has always had a rich ecology of light and dark

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:55 AM

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queen locust The world of Sky has always had a rich ecology of light and dark

Quite possibly, yes.

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:56 AM

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/was dark part of darkness then

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I want to know where the darkness came from and how it destroyed the kingdom

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:56 AM

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/also. leaf, that was canon

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:56 AM

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“The world of Sky has a rich ecology of light and dark”
(hage musing: does this mean darkness is a natural part of the world not something the ancestors caused?)

Canon Lore Doc, Japanese livestream

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:56 AM

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/confirmed by devs

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:56 AM

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One of the few morsels of canon lore that we've gotten over the past years lmao

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:57 AM

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So darkness has always been there and has only gotten stronger due to neglect at keeping it back?

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Evidently darkness was troublesome for kingdom, but theores are that either the bickering about or misuse of the eye was the downfall

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:58 AM

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/did we try to stop it?

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:58 AM

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So eventually the darkness took over and manifested its core in the eye of eden

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 1:58 AM

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/but then we made it worst

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:58 AM

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There was a beginning of an end somewhere but I'm mostly sure that the Eye of Eden was simply the breaking point

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:58 AM

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hushed steeple So eventually the darkness took over and manifested its core in the eye of eden

That is a possuble theory, however, note that darkness doesn't manifest in eden.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 1:59 AM

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True

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But what if it started there and grew to the forest and waistland

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 1:59 AM

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queen locust There was a beginning of an end somewhere but I'm mostly sure that the Eye of Ed...

Could be the differences between light and crystal groups as afforementioned.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 1:59 AM

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That too-

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But those weren't the only forces of nature present in Sky that could have done it in

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I have an inkling the Elements played a role in the downfall somehow

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Or at least, misuse of it

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 2:00 AM

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/why valley is so clean tho

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:00 AM

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hushed steeple But what if it started there and grew to the forest and waistland

If it started there, then why isn't it there now. I sayz that darkness has tough time manifesting in cold areas. Take snow valley, and eden having cold themes.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Inkling elements are the things represented in the trials right?

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 2:01 AM

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/yea

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Note that each element represents a characteristic.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:01 AM

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i wouldn't call Valley clean- it's just really good at covering up the damage under the layers of fun and snow

lost widget Nov 20, 2020, 2:01 AM

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I think that darkness is not inherently a bad thing. A little is good; it keeps balance between dark and light. But eventually light got too weak and darkness was able to overpower it, destroying the balance

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Yea

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So what happend to the spirits why are they all frozen

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Darknes is like weed or a virus. For the victim it is bad. But in nature it serves as a balancing thing

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:03 AM

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We hear people cheering in the audience in valley but dont see anyone

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:03 AM

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we don't talk about that part much but dang is it ominous

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Yea

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:03 AM

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could be the cheers of dead people idk

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i'm kidding-

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:04 AM

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You also hear background music, but where is the orchestra!?

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:04 AM

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So like all spirits are dead and we are like a second generation

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 2:04 AM

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/ah yes diegetic vs non diegetic

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:04 AM

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gilded fossil /ah yes diegetic vs non diegetic

we just finished a lesson on this so finally

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:04 AM

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What exactly are our creature we play as

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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/gatorad-

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Are they winged light and spirit combined?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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It could be a non-diegetic sound, where it's a purely technical thing and we (the Player) are the only ones hearing the cheers and orchestral

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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/uh we seem to be made of clay

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Or are they young elders?

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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/oh

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Oh- that's another morsel of canon lore-

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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/skids will never grow up to be elders

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Skykids cannot and will not grow into Elders

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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queen locust It could be a non-diegetic sound, where it's a purely technical thing and we (th...

Why do we see spirits in the first place?

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 2:06 AM

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/and elders have always been elders from the start

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Can spirits make sounds?

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 2:06 AM

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/they can honk a little yea

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:06 AM

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wait no they honk

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:06 AM

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queen locust Can spirits make sounds?

When they emote yes.

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Also they do honk

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Laughing emote honks

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SkyLOL

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Also aplausse by bell maker, sound, when they wave. And so in and so forth

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Other spirits do tend to show up in spirit memories so it could be that there's multiple spirits there

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Mhm

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Definutely. The other spiritsbare parts of the main spirits memories in that sequence.

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Basically, its like remeniscing

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:08 AM

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So civilization was perfect in all the different kingdoms until the darkness grew to powerful and overtook the land killing all it touched

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:08 AM

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It might have not been entirely the darkness's fault

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:08 AM

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hushed steeple So civilization was perfect in all the different kingdoms until the darkness gre...

Nothing is perfect

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:08 AM

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In fact it's unlikely that it was really just the darkness that did the Kingdom in

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 2:09 AM

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/could be us really

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:09 AM

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That they needed a military in the first place is telling of conflict

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Yes.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Against the growing darkness or otherwise- and this is without the industrial subtext

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Growing too much and having the land be destroyed to make way for it

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Well hum lemme send something

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Maybe the enemie in GW was from outside. It wouldn't be surprising that pluderers would wish to gain light and crystals. That may explain two shields as well. Both sides united to portect both things.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:11 AM

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It's still a conflict independent of darkness if we choose to interpret it like that

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Precisely

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Physical darkness anyway

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haven't been able to completely rule out the mental side of darkness

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:12 AM

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There is this thing Vir.

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Yes its this one

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:13 AM

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The presence of fatigue.

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Guys see attachment

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I could just send the quotes again XD

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:13 AM

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XD

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:13 AM

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And what do you mean by fatigue?

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:14 AM

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So why did the stars fall and reside in the clouds

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:14 AM

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'Darkness came, and stars fell'

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Darkness came

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:14 AM

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depends on whatever the hell the darkness was referring to

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Or darkness blinds XD

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:15 AM

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So did the spirits and elders live on the surface of whatever planet they live in?

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Well yes but actually no

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Valley elder wakes up, with the presence of light. The Shipwright goes to bed. The miners die. Perhaps light seen as energy, is consumed also from living beings, like mantas in the forest. It wouldn't surprise me, that darknes is capable of cusing fatigue and loss of productivity in living beings.

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Fatigue?

kind bobcat Nov 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Why the sudden ping

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Lop

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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i'm assuming you meant Prairie elder in place of Valley

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Yes ,sorry

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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kind bobcat *Why the sudden ping*

I’m lettin them see attachment

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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What are the jars in prairie for

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Light

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Mostly storing butterflies

kind bobcat Nov 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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I'd appreciate it if you don't ping me out of nowhere, thanks! SkyBow

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:17 AM

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hushed steeple What are the jars in prairie for

Light

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:17 AM

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for juicing

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Wait is it really for juicing

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I've no clue, a butterfly does qualify as a light creature

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:18 AM

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If I dont want pings I just mute a server pPopcorn

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:18 AM

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So power dimonds

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:18 AM

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You'd have to make several to have it be on the same yield as say- a manta

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Do butterflies power the dimonds

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Ohhh

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Light powers the diamonds

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:18 AM

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hushed steeple Do butterflies power the dimonds

Nope

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Buterflies were stored and in praire elder scenez the light is turned in ine. Would make sense that process goes both ways.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Why do the Prairie people collect butterflies whats the use

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:19 AM

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hushed steeple Do butterflies power the dimonds

Technically yes, but not directly

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Is it juicer explainer time

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Butterflies > skid > light > diamonds

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Hence.
Butterflies > any way of transfer > light > diamonds.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Do the people use the creatures of light as power sources

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Nope

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:20 AM

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My guess is yes

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:21 AM

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It's speculated that they use the creatures of light to make the power sources

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I.E. the diamonds

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:21 AM

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So winged lights power the dimonds

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Tis what that big contraption in the Forest temple is for

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:21 AM

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These folks grab light, where the birds pass.

📎 SKY_20201120_014342_.jpg

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Nope- Winged Lights are a completely different thing

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Well they are called winged LIGHTS

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:22 AM

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So they drain light from the creatures

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:22 AM

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And there is a butterfly charmer that stores the butterflies in jars.

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Y es

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Okay maybe not completely- but we do use the WL to power something else

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our wings

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Can spirits use winged light at some point?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:22 AM

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and dear god she's laughing as she's catching butterflies about to be sent to the juicer

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Cruel

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Depends on whether or not Winged Light existed back then

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:23 AM

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hushed steeple So they drain light from the creatures

The laughing one scoops light from birds not butterflies.

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No birds were shown to be caught directly

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:23 AM

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no animals were harmed in the making of this product lmao

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Lol

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Okay you did mention the fatigue though so there's still harm done

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Also, the bird whisperer shows that they had a good relationship with the animals. So my guess is, that just like you don't see dead burds around the skids who fly among them, taking a bit of light from living beings doesn't really harm them in major way.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Yea

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Whay darkness does, is it wants it all, which is what makes it problematic.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:25 AM

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So winged lights need you to shepherd them to heaven???

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Are winged lights dead spirits

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Which also shows a beatiful comparrison to that beingsbloke ancestors and skids are a ballance between both.

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Winged light theories are more speculative than most.

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I dont have a clear answer.

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Winged light: “Throughout the world there are these imprints this child of light, a character you are connected to and have a relationship with” frequently called shiny bois by devs and in one later livestream “shiny bois” is referred to as something they should maybe not say while streaming, spoiler maybe? (canon lore doc, Launch Livestream)

short owl Nov 20, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Probably not aspoiler

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:27 AM

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They may be sapient light creatures. But thus most vulnerable to darkness.

short owl Nov 20, 2020, 2:27 AM

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We can see them be shiny

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:27 AM

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“You’ll find imprints of the Children of Light” -talking about winged light (note: later in the same context the say Child of Light singular)
(Canon Lore Doc, Traveler's Guide)

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:27 AM

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What are the best theroys

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:27 AM

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One that pops up a lot is that they are imprints of the Prince

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Referring to the Prince as the Child of Light in this context

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:28 AM

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What makes WL different frkm creature is that Skid can store them. And brings them to statues

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Plus, in orbit, the saved wl show similarity to skid.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:29 AM

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So who is the king is he evil?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Adding onto the imprints thing, sometimes they're likened to reliving spirit memories

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:29 AM

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hushed steeple So who is the king is he evil?

ehhhh debatable- the alignment of pretty much anyone in this game is iffy

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Mabye they are fallen stars?

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 2:30 AM

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@hushed steeple you seem pretty new to lore

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Okay, I did what I wanted, I broughtbwhat I found in the areas and the meaning behind the, what I now call "light" symbol. Its 4.30 am. I should sleep.

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:30 AM

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@lethal stump i am

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. stickerHeart
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I read that

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:31 AM

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We shared them brick

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:31 AM

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bOI LIME SLEEP

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I'm just asking questions

keen kettle Nov 20, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Give me a pat, and I will consider.

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Okai, gn!

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Goodnight Lime- and thanks for your insight on the LIght symbol!

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:32 AM

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What do you think the trials are?
Were they there before you appeared in the universe?

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Gn lime thanks for answering questions

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Personally yeah- I believe that the trials were an ancient thing- existed way before skykids

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:33 AM

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But what were there use?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Mostly because of the murals, and how they look like they depicted the beginning of the Kingdom

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Were they made for enjoyment or testing

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:34 AM

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They seem more like Trials to test who's worthy of the Elements

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:34 AM

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The elements is a special school for gifted spirits right?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:34 AM

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If it's not that, then Trials to see who upholds the virtues of each one in order to conquer the Elements

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:35 AM

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But many died

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Possibly? It's pretty likely that the spirits who were there took the Trials

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Yea

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Whether or not they died is- idk

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:35 AM

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They were teachers

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:35 AM

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i'm still not sure the Trials were designed to have people die in them-

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but that's just me-

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:36 AM

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What was the purpose of the elements

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 2:36 AM

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i like to imagine the trials are somewhat alive
ancient sedentary beings...slowly breathing...moving to withhold their secrets

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Wooah

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:36 AM

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the trials are mean to me Bricky-

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:37 AM

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I think there a school to test the spirits mabye for the army?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:37 AM

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But we do see on the murals that they were able to use the Elements to some effect in what looks like the rise of the Kingdom

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You see some of the Elders holding the Elements

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Fire is really important though

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As shown by candles

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And how much power the candles give the elders

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:38 AM

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saying fire is important to this game is one of the biggest understatements you can make akajkajks

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Lmao

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Not fire trial

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Right

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 2:39 AM

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the trials are mean to me Bricky-
that’s the point Viridi, they’re basically alive to guard the elements imo
water trial breaths deeply, patient and slow, waiting for us to slip up
the earth trial is constantly moving and keeping us from being stable
the air trial is perilous and constantly shoves us off balance
the fire trial darkens the world and gives us little guidance, setting monsters upon us
all to keep their secrets, the elements, safe

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Well its not really to guard

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It’s called trial for a reason

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Mhm

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:41 AM

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We never do exhibit abilities that show we're able to control those elements afterwards-

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:41 AM

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That about answers all my questions

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Just that we're told we are, from the honoring of the Wisdoms

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Mhm

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 2:41 AM

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queen locust We never do exhibit abilities that show we're able to control those elements aft...

imo i think that’s because the elements were already taken by the CoL turned Prince

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Is the top of the mountain this place at the end?

📎 SKY_20201117_112738_.jpg 📎 SKY_20201118_130915_.jpg

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Well nope

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Oh what is it?

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Its the eden castle

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 2:43 AM

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What is at the top of the mountain

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Oh

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 2:44 AM

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looks similar, i don’t think we can say for certain if they’re the exact same thing or not

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i think they’re both parts of the eden castle, at least

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 2:45 AM

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It doesn’t have beam of light but I’m confused are there like two eden castles

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 2:46 AM

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i think when we ascend we’re in the beam, thus we can’t see it

bitter shale Nov 20, 2020, 2:50 AM

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We are indeed inside of the beam

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Remember before we can ascend we need to hug the boi?

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Well after that, we sorta fused into a light being

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And a beam of light appeared?

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We did need to follow the light to ascend...

But since we already a being of light when that moment happened... i believe we did fused into the beam of light that we seen from afar

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We cant see it again of course, ince we already a light itself

jagged raven Nov 20, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Hi hii, so I saw those messages about the elder names.. and it said that the Valley elder’s name is “Samekh”..... but like... I just wanna ask, which elder is named that? Are both the elders supposedly named Samekh? If not then who’s named Samekh and what’s the other one named SkyShrug

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Im just so confused, sorry 😭🤣

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 4:20 AM

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/both are name samekh

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/like the valley elders used to be ONE uniform elder

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/but to differenciate them, one is Sam and the other is Ekh

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 4:26 AM

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pSquint

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 4:27 AM

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How does one pronounce "Eck"

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I don’t think that’s an appropriate generalization to make based off of names, Jen

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 4:27 AM

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/oh sorry, got it

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Is eck pronounced how it's spelled

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 4:28 AM

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but ultimately, the elders don’t technically have names
however, even with their titles, SkyElderValley2 and SkyElderValley1 are referred to as 1 entity

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« The Elder of The Valley »

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 4:29 AM

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I kinda just wanna nickname them

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 4:30 AM

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/dora and kakashi then?

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Sam and Erik

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Because Eck sounds strange to me

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 4:39 AM

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ECK

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Lmao what😆

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Ekh and Eck

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Both would be pronounced the same

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Well that is wierd

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Yeah

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Also “dora elder” lmao

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 4:41 AM

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I read that sometimes people cut the vot elder's name in half for both of the twins. One would be Sam, the other Ekh. I find it a tad odd so I'm just replacing Ekh with Erik.

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 4:42 AM

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cCherryKrill

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 4:42 AM

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rapid juniper Also “dora elder” lmao

I just realized one of them has a Dora hairstyle jzgjddkg

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Lol yes

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cCherryKrill

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Is Sam the twin with longer hair?

rapid juniper Nov 20, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Ah cherry krill looks cute cCherryKrill

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 4:43 AM

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it can be whichever twin you want

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they don’t have canon names, really

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Oh okay

lethal stump Nov 20, 2020, 4:43 AM

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aside from « Elder of the Valley »

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Sam - SkyElderValley2
Erik - SkyElderValley1

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ye

willow shoal Nov 20, 2020, 4:58 AM

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pEyes

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Man imagine just having the name 'Ekh'- it sounds like someone digging up krill larvae-

willow shoal Nov 20, 2020, 5:01 AM

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samekh=sam+ekh

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 5:02 AM

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screw it I'm calling them kakashi and dora-

willow shoal Nov 20, 2020, 5:02 AM

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👀

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this bird is simple kind

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 5:16 AM

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it looks like the kind that you make in origami idk

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 5:19 AM

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true

bitter shale Nov 20, 2020, 5:37 AM

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~~Imo asparagus and mushroom are the best name for those two~~ SkyLOL

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 5:38 AM

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sonic and green hill zone

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 5:48 AM

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queen locust it looks like the kind that you make in origami idk

Was about to say

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A similar thing

quick grail Nov 20, 2020, 5:54 AM

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guys, can we spam this in the wishlist and ideas plz

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Can we have a season of lorekeepers, so we learn about the past of sky, (all members of thelore chat would agree)

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Can we have a season of lorekeepers, so we learn about the past of sky, (all members of thelore chat would agree)

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this, this would be great for the next season

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 5:58 AM

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I dunno if they take spam well-

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Yeah definitely don't spam

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Have the hieroglyphics in the cave we run through in isle of dawn been observed and talked about yet?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:02 AM

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We know murals but what hieroglyphs?

quick grail Nov 20, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I dont mean spam, but post it cuz it could be a cool season

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Oh I consider the murals as hieroglyphics

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Because they remind me of ancient Egypt ig

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Lorekeepers is a little on the nose but I'll admit it'll be pretty dang awesome

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Prophecy itself feels like the Lorekeepers you've described in some interpretations of it

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Oh btw Rain- do you mean the very first cave?

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Yes

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:05 AM

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There's a section in Butters' essay that describes it- referring to the four Ancestors as the Prophets collecting the four falling stars

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And referring to the fallen lights as the Elements

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Picking up from the end of that cave and linking them with the ones found in Pilgrim's cave it seemed like they delivered the lights to Isle Elder

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it did always kind of seem sus that there were only four

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:07 AM

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I see

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Are there any murals that haven't really been observed and talked about yet?

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In general, not just isle

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:08 AM

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There's the obscure one from the side of the Isle Temple, the one underneath the Forest bridge, and the Ark murals

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But those are the only places I know of that even have murals

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Forest bridge?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:09 AM

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The one beyond the first gate

subtle peak Nov 20, 2020, 6:09 AM

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There's a glitched mural in sanctuary jellyfish cave

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:09 AM

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that's a bug-

subtle peak Nov 20, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Oh

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Time to take my shot-

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📎 SKY_20201026_172413_.jpg

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Ohhhhh the hole entrance

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Also this is the one I was talking about

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:10 AM

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So there's those pots on boats

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They look like they're arriving to

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That castle

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What is it again

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Wasteland, most likely

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Yeah

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Looks like gw castle thingy

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:11 AM

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I use this a lot to back up the Wasteland was a Forest theory-

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Wonder why the light in pots were being transported there- if they were

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Also I wonder why there's jellyfish on the mural

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:12 AM

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It's probably there to demonstrate that Wasteland had an ecology of light before the place was burned down

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Because there's Jellyfish in Forest, they might have been native to things like forests and caves idk

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Oooo

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Also where the heck are the arks

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Or ark

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Somewhere across that conspicuous body of water to the right side of Wasteland- definitely at a higher altitude

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:15 AM

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In the beginning of the gw level?

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:16 AM

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it doesn't look large enough to be a sea but then again I suck at horizon measurements

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Imma head there and take pictures brb

queen locust Nov 20, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Mmkay- have fun dude

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:40 AM

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What the heck

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There's so much

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I totally missed whichever season it was where it took place in the forgotten ark so I never went there

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crops???????

📎 SKY_20201120_002730_.jpg

bitter shale Nov 20, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Its from season of Enchantment

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:42 AM

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I skipped the season cuz I couldn't play for awhile

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There is so much here omg

bitter shale Nov 20, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Ngl same

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There was a hidden cave there

hybrid oxide Nov 20, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Yep, crops
Scare emote cutscene showed him collecting water for it

bitter shale Nov 20, 2020, 6:42 AM

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pEyes

quick grail Nov 20, 2020, 6:42 AM

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yess, the wizard hat

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my favourite hat

hybrid oxide Nov 20, 2020, 6:43 AM

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I love that guy ngl

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:43 AM

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What did they grow

quick grail Nov 20, 2020, 6:43 AM

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grass

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and plants

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:43 AM

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But what kind of plants

hybrid oxide Nov 20, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Nothing shown in the cutscene tho
He was trying to

quick grail Nov 20, 2020, 6:43 AM

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📎 hrevew.jpg

quick grail Nov 20, 2020, 6:43 AM

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hybrid oxide Nothing shown in the cutscene tho He was *trying* to

he did tho after collecting his light

hybrid oxide Nov 20, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Aso, that reminds me
The light birds eat?
Or is it different kind of bird from the ones we usually see flying

hybrid oxide Nov 20, 2020, 6:44 AM

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quick grail he did tho after collecting his light

I meant the no plants are shown

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Well, except you meant green light cutscene, then yes

quick grail Nov 20, 2020, 6:45 AM

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hybrid oxide Aso, that reminds me The light birds eat? Or is it different kind of bird from ...

different

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cuz the light birds dont eat, then harness the light

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 6:46 AM

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There's so many murals on that huge ship-

hybrid oxide Nov 20, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Moth me didn't know what those murals meant 😂😂

hybrid oxide Nov 20, 2020, 6:48 AM

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quick grail cuz the light birds dont eat, then harness the light

So we have at least two species of birds here
Ones we see migrating
And ones we see flying more slowly (isle before temple, Prairie social, forgotten ark)

quick grail Nov 20, 2020, 7:33 AM

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yes

hushed steeple Nov 20, 2020, 8:04 AM

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I just ‘ finished ‘ eden for the first time

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 8:11 AM

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/yay

hazy karma Nov 20, 2020, 8:38 AM

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smoke

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 8:38 AM

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/hmm?

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/what smoke?

sly kestrel Nov 20, 2020, 8:39 AM

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smoke

icy spruce Nov 20, 2020, 8:39 AM

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?

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I-

hazy karma Nov 20, 2020, 8:41 AM

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sorry

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i shouldnt be in here

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im looking for pictures of the smoke things from fire trial

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i feel like such a fool rn

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please forget i exist

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 8:43 AM

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/what are the smoke krills made of

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/are they even alive?

hazy karma Nov 20, 2020, 8:43 AM

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darkness??

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i am unsure

sly kestrel Nov 20, 2020, 8:44 AM

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Pure darkness with eyes

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That’s what I saw anyway

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 8:44 AM

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/similar to the plants?

hazy karma Nov 20, 2020, 8:44 AM

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possibly

near moss Nov 20, 2020, 8:46 AM

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Nah

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They have elements of light in them

hazy karma Nov 20, 2020, 8:46 AM

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oh-

near moss Nov 20, 2020, 8:46 AM

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You can see it when you kill them after you get the shrine

civic ember Nov 20, 2020, 8:46 AM

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I just want to ask about the elders. Was there a confirmation by tgc about their names? I get confused sometimes with the names being different for each elder in other sky communities

near moss Nov 20, 2020, 8:47 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

hazy karma Nov 20, 2020, 8:47 AM

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ah

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i see

near moss Nov 20, 2020, 8:47 AM

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There’s no confirmed names for the elders, canonically you refer to them by their realms (i.e. Vault elder)

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But I personally like to call them by their latest beta names

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Some people like to come up with their own names for em

civic ember Nov 20, 2020, 8:48 AM

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Thank you! (・∀・)

near moss Nov 20, 2020, 8:48 AM

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But the catchall is just their realms:)

prisma hearth Nov 20, 2020, 9:16 AM

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Hmm question are all seasons part of the lore or nahh??

meager canyon Nov 20, 2020, 9:16 AM

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Idk maybe

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I call em by their names in the concept art BC its cool

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 9:17 AM

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prisma hearth Hmm question are all seasons part of the lore or nahh??

/yea

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/prophecy was MADE for lore

meager canyon Nov 20, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Hai jen havent seen you a while

gilded fossil Nov 20, 2020, 9:18 AM

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/~~im in school shush~~

meager canyon Nov 20, 2020, 9:19 AM

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~~right, right~~

solar relic Nov 20, 2020, 9:23 AM

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not everything in seasons are necessarily canon, though this was in the context regarding some of sanctuary's items

meager canyon Nov 20, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Yeah. In pins it says that sanctuary was a place of escape because of the lockdown.

solar relic Nov 20, 2020, 9:24 AM

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#lore-discussion-spoilers message the message by ktjn

thin dirge Nov 20, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Oh wow, I read the messages following KTJN's words in that link, and I never thought about the real arms the Twins had (non-mechanical) being their dominant hands!

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It kinda proves my headcanon more that each of the twin has their personality kinda like the left and right brain or something?

meager canyon Nov 20, 2020, 9:37 AM

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My theory is that they are a soul spit into two bodies

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I've always thought tgat

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I was never sure though

thin dirge Nov 20, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Spikey boi is the more cunning one, and kinda more... "creative" than the other twin, kinda like being the right brain?

meager canyon Nov 20, 2020, 9:38 AM

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But, their the same brain, being competitive and playful

thin dirge Nov 20, 2020, 9:38 AM

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This is based off of their interaction in the Cutscene, Spikey boi being the one who had the great idea of stealing our flame just to beat their twin-

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The non-mechanical arm the Spikey twin has is their right arm too

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The other twin has their left hand being the non-mechanical one