#lore-discussion-spoilers

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bitter shale
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where does our limbo located? based on the flying hubris which are flying upward and the beam of light that appeared after we hug our reflection...

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we are either inside or above the eden crystals

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if that is the case, why we can only meet our reflection near the diamond??

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this is some conspiracy goin on rn

civic wave
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i feel we are inside our statue

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and our spirit goes on to orbit then world as chil of ligth

undone harbor
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Guess who'll be honking continuously the next time they go to eden

bitter shale
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our statue shattered man

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can be seen clearly when there are other players in the same eden area

civic wave
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and when u do eden with friends the spirit of the first ones to become staue stay with u to give support

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thats the feeling of disconecting your mind and spirit from your physical form

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your reality shatters

undone harbor
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c on s p i r a c y aaaaaaa

civic wave
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!lore

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jmmm

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the eden elder pull you out before you lose yourself to the darkness

undone harbor
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but we pull the glowy boi up-

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(also is there a map for where the realms in sky is
like imagine the whole game is put in this big space where vault level is above,home is under,and so on
if there was one already then where can I find it
if not should I make it,not that it's important anyways,just wanted to ask you guys)

civic wave
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jmm ive never seen a complete map that joins the different realms

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only seen individual of each realm like a prairie with the different locations and stuff

undone harbor
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If you're talking about the surface of the realms map then maybe someone did that,idk

bitter shale
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and when u do eden with friends the spirit of the first ones to become staue stay with u to give support
wait

WHAT

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oh

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oh nvm-

civic wave
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xd

bitter shale
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legit thought you were reffering to the first fallen statues

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not the other players lmao

civic wave
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If you're talking about the surface of the realms map then maybe someone did that,idk
@undone harbor pretty sure there are some maps in the sky wiki not sure if what you are looking for tho maybe good inspiration!

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light juice
mmm yes refreshing

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well when u lose all your light in the world like if u get krilled to death

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maybe that how one would become a shinyboi

short owl
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Red diamonds just sap up light. Our shiny boi was probably a victim of that

undone harbor
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stop shinyboi abuse

gilded fossil
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/pffffffftt vibe check shinyboi

icy spruce
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eeeeee

calm obsidian
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I want a spoilor for next Season

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Anyone have any

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I am a little bored of Prophecy now..

civic wave
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it has new cosmetics and emotes

icy spruce
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I-

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It also has new quests I guess

calm obsidian
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@civic wave Bravo, that is something New

icy spruce
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And a new place

radiant roost
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Spoiler for new season: it has spirits!!!

civic wave
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rest of content illegal

icy spruce
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It has land

calm obsidian
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@icy spruce Wow! I can never have though of that

radiant roost
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It will take place in sky

calm obsidian
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You people are Interestingly Intelligent

gilded fossil
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!omgomghaveyouseenthe

pastel brookBOT
calm obsidian
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It will take place in sky
@radiant roost Awesome man

civic wave
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stickerYum maybe snaks

gilded fossil
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/yea if we do we cant share it here

icy spruce
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OMG THE NEW SEASON WILL HAVE CANDLES!11!!!1111!!11!1!

calm obsidian
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/yea if we do we cant share it here
@gilded fossil Then why it is named as a spoilor Server

radiant roost
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YOOOO U SERIOUS??

icy spruce
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YESSS

radiant roost
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CANDLES!!!!!

icy spruce
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HFGVBDNICFVHDSCVFDS

civic wave
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live content spoiler

pale gate
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And mostly lore

pastel brookBOT
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To spoiler tag text, highlight your text and select “Mark as spoiler”, or type || on either side of your text ||like this||

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The community generally agrees that the following things are spoilers:

  • Anything after the door to Eye of Eden (but not the word Eden)
  • What the 8-player puzzle unlocks
  • Anything in the secret level including what it is ||(office)||
  • Beta content that is not live or not meant to be accessible (all beta content stays in the beta channels)
civic wave
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  • Beta content that is not live or not meant to be accessible (all beta content ___ stays in the beta channels___)
calm obsidian
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Okey

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I am going thenn

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Ba Byer

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Bye

icy spruce
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byeee

livid valley
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OMG THE NEW SEASON WILL HAVE CANDLES!11!!!1111!!11!1!
shocking

icy spruce
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IKRRRR

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I MEAN DGFVCHWYSHDCBHJC

latent tendon
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Huh?

open hill
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does anyone have a screenshot of the megabird?

latent tendon
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Can u explain i dont understand the excitement about... candles?

icy spruce
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It's called ✨ Sarcasm ✨

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Cause someone asked for spoilers of the next season

latent tendon
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:<

icy spruce
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And we spoiled them

latent tendon
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Nice one

icy spruce
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Like, there will be new cosmetics, new places. it will be on Sky, IT HAS CANDLESS

latent tendon
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IT HAS WAX OMG OMG

icy spruce
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I KNOW RIGHTTT

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LIKE MINDBLOWN

latent tendon
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WOW

broken basin
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Okay, why does the Prince's mask look like an upside down cross?

icy spruce
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what

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oh

latent tendon
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The wat

icy spruce
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Prince's mask

broken basin
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Is that supposed to represent corrupt/evil?

keen kettle
icy spruce
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Hmmm, maybe if you consider King and Prince to be the same person

latent tendon
icy spruce
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But if not, well no idea

stoic stirrup
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is there a picture of the prince? am confuse

latent tendon
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Wait can u send a screenshot of prince's mask?

icy spruce
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wait

latent tendon
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Another person who i share my brain cell with

broken basin
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It's exactly like the prophecy symbol

icy spruce
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yes

broken basin
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So here u go

icy spruce
stoic stirrup
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thanks!

icy spruce
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no problemo

latent tendon
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Oo

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Imnteresting

keen kettle
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King and prince may be same being in different times.

latent tendon
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Wait who did king get corrupted in the first place?

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How*

icy spruce
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That or they're actually different person

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Well, some theories suggest greed

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Because the King wanted more power (and diamonds)

stoic stirrup
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ngl i kinda want game theory on this

icy spruce
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Yes

latent tendon
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POWER DIAMONDS

icy spruce
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BUT THAT'S JUST A THEORY

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A SKY THEORY

keen kettle
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I reckon, King was corrupted by the eye of eden. So far I speculate King is trapped in the eye which is why he doesn't appear as elder.

icy spruce
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ANDDDD CUT

latent tendon
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King kinda looks like an entire tower

keen kettle
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Well, the connection between the eye and the king via concept art and premise is hard to deny. It is said by the devs that king is definitely present in some form, yet we never see him in game.

broken basin
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The king concept art reminds me of vault towet as a whole

undone harbor
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So I have been drawing king's mask wrong all the time
Aaaaa-

latent tendon
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That theory is very likely to be true

keen kettle
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Vault is said to be a dreamlike state. Which does explain the absence of Krill.

icy spruce
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And Vault might be an illusion/dream

undone harbor
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You are on wasteland gas and polluted water

latent tendon
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Also vault is Gaurded by the wasteland soldiers

icy spruce
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Since at the end, we are at the true vault. The heavily damaged elevator and the debris everywhere are my proof.

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:]

keen kettle
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Since at the end, we are at the true vault. The heavily damaged elevator and the debris everywhere are my proof.
@icy spruce That's a nice observation. I like that.

icy spruce
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Thanks

keen kettle
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Vault is guarded by the soldiers, but I do like the Two shield theory as it does put finger on many things

undone harbor
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I think the first 3 floors or just the ground floor isn't in that dream-like state

icy spruce
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I too also like the 2 shields theory

shy otter
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So uh

latent tendon
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Maybe the vault is just not the way it is shown at the start of the realm, maybe we somehow go in the last

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Past*

shy otter
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Are sky kids boys or girls
Or does that depend on the player's customization

keen kettle
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I would say the Vault dream may be seamless, Seal.

undone harbor
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Depends

icy spruce
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Skids are genderless

shy otter
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So- when you start the game
I can get whether my avatar is a boy or a girl?

icy spruce
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They're a 'they'

keen kettle
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I would go as far as to say that Skids have no gender. Since they are artificial.

latent tendon
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Or maybe we are seeing the memories of the vault spirits

shy otter
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They're a 'they'
@icy spruce it's going to be hard writing a fanfic about 5 sky kids
All while referring they to them all lmao

icy spruce
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lmao

lethal stump
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everything in sky is gender neutral ! but you’re welcome to pick genders for them if that’s what you like, just don’t enforce on others

undone harbor
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Well
You can assign them any genders you want to

icy spruce
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Well, they can say that their pronouns are 'she' or 'he'

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But they're a 'they'

keen kettle
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Vault lanterns espeicially in archive are said to house memories.

icy spruce
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And KNAWLEGE

keen kettle
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I would even say that a skid is an "it" rather than they

latent tendon
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Well sky kids don't have any specific traits as they all look the same at the start so..

undone harbor
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I want to read the memory cubes so bad-

icy spruce
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ikr

shy otter
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So
For convenience sake I'll assume pronouns into some of my characters

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Is that okay

icy spruce
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Yes

latent tendon
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@keen kettle yea and u have to light those lanterns to activate the elevator

undone harbor
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Yes

keen kettle
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Its fanart. Your freedom.

shy otter
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Cool

icy spruce
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yep

shy otter
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Fanfic* but yeah

latent tendon
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So maybe we are fueling the elevator with the memories of the past

undone harbor
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Ooh link me when you finish

keen kettle
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@keen kettle yea and u have to light those lanterns to activate the elevator
@latent tendon That grands access to more dreamlike state. pThink

undone harbor
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We are lighting them up so-

latent tendon
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@keen kettle exactly

keen kettle
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Elevator itself is an enigma. No explanation has been given.

latent tendon
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Wat is an enigma?

undone harbor
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So we have this big crystal under the elevator

icy spruce
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Perhaps as someone (not exactly) said, 'Maybe when we meditate it makes us you know? Fall deeper in the dream.' (aka, dreamlike state.)

keen kettle
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Wat is an enigma?
@latent tendon Something that is beyond our understanding, for theblack of better explanation.

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Perhaps as someone (not exactly) said, 'Maybe when we meditate it makes us you know? Fall deeper in the dream.' (aka, dreamlike state.)
@icy spruce It would make sense. I would say, meditation is skids powering devices. They are filled with light and are artificial. Why would a boat fly to ark? Power.

undone harbor
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Maybe the big crystal under the elevator is an experiment before the making of the giant power diamond in Eden

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When we finish vault we see the elevator is broken

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Maybe it malfunctioned and blew up

latent tendon
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Wat if eden was the source of these crystals before the corruption

undone harbor
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Like the giant diamond

keen kettle
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Seal, I think it is a good thing to make note of. Eye of eden may be some device that granted access to orbit, but was unusuable by ancestors, perhaps due to some incompatibility. Hence the elevator may be a predecessor to the eye.

icy spruce
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Well, there is theory about when the big crystal in Eden blew up. It affected the other diamonds making a bigger mess.

shy otter
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Hey so I need help with another thing

undone harbor
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Oh,never heard of that,thanks

shy otter
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I decided to refer to the kids based on their cosmetics

icy spruce
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So perhaps the diamond under the elevator destroyed the elevator.

shy otter
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Aka masks mostly

icy spruce
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Oh ok

undone harbor
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So?

keen kettle
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Well note that, Vault is a dream. The true vailt, as Ches stated, is just before eden.

latent tendon
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So the corrupted crystals have lost their power and therefore they consume your energy

shy otter
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So as far as I gathered I'll be making a fanfic about 5 kids
I already refer to to as "long haired" and "short haired"
But i can't remember any other masks then the "fox mask"

icy spruce
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They perhaps lost the light used to balance the diamond

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Since diamonds might be made by light and darkness

keen kettle
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So even if the corruption theory is correct, the vault we experience may very well be pre-eye vault.

shy otter
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And I don't want something as wacky as a samurai mask lol

undone harbor
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You can send pictures of the masks so we can name them

icy spruce
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I mean, after all. The diamonds consumes our flame to open the doors like forest

keen kettle
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Also, wiki has them.

icy spruce
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But it doesn't damage our light

latent tendon
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Or maybe the true vault is corrupted but we never experience it?

undone harbor
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It only consumes a part of our light
Not ultra-suck

keen kettle
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True, but it is a device. Many do think that frystals are basically powering catalysts.

icy spruce
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Perhaps it's because there's light in that darkstone that stops the darkness in the diamond to completely absorb our light

keen kettle
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Or maybe the true vault is corrupted but we never experience it?
@latent tendon Archives are said to be corrupted.

shy otter
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Are there a lot of animal based masks?

undone harbor
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Frystals
Get your fried crystal for the price of a candle

icy spruce
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I-

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Anyways

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What're we talking about?

keen kettle
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Crystals

shy otter
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I feel like i said something dumb

icy spruce
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That's ok, I also can be extremely dumb at times too.

shy otter
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can i get a name of just two animal based masks

short owl
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I wear a bunni mask cauze earz

icy spruce
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I wear chibi mask cause O O B S

shy otter
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Okay that's one

keen kettle
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All four trial spirits: turtle, bat, tarantula, lion

icy spruce
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And anubis masks (Ultimate gift of Prophecy)

latent tendon
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Dragon, rabbit, fox, crow, deer, demon?, turtle, tiger, spider and BAT

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Oh hea

shy otter
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Thanks

latent tendon
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Huff puff anubis maskk

undone harbor
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W e a s e l

icy spruce
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Yes

undone harbor
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How can anyone forget the weasel

icy spruce
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Weasel is best mask

undone harbor
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Y e s

latent tendon
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I JUST SAID IT

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Fox mask

icy spruce
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what

keen kettle
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I am not that keen on animal masks

latent tendon
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Is DA WEASEL MASK

icy spruce
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What

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I thought fox mask was the other one-

undone harbor
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Also Rhythm has bird masks

icy spruce
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A lot

keen kettle
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Lets look it uo, shall we?

latent tendon
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Are u confusing fox wiff rabbit?

undone harbor
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I love the duck

icy spruce
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I like the owl

undone harbor
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There are no rabbit masks,I think

icy spruce
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Ye, I just noticed that

latent tendon
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All 4 masks (except for ultimate) are birds from rythm

solar relic
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oh boy before we have a whole debate on mask names: they're up to your interpretation just like the lore stickerHangOn

keen kettle
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Fox mask and weasel mask are two different masks

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Fact

latent tendon
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LEAP EMOTE IS NOT A FOX MASK

undone harbor
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Leap emote?the joy one?

icy spruce
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eeeee

latent tendon
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cSighSkymii THIS IS NOT A FOX

lethal stump
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leap is a bunny, sassy is a weasel iirc

undone harbor
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That's the fox mask

keen kettle
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Wiki says otherwise.

lethal stump
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wiki isn’t dev info

latent tendon
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pHuh THIS IS FOX

undone harbor
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How can a bunny be that red

icy spruce
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ohh

keen kettle
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Well, wiki is editable pPopcorn

lethal stump
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bunny mask has big bunny ears

keen kettle
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If you feel strongly about it

latent tendon
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@lethal stump YES

icy spruce
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I am now enlightened.

latent tendon
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FOXES HAVE POINTY NOSES ITS A FACT

undone harbor
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We should ask the devs sometimes

latent tendon
undone harbor
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We have red foxes,but red rabbits?nah

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...right?

latent tendon
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@undone harbor we have gray cyan bats!?

icy spruce
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Do we have blue owls? No idea

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Is there purple bats? No idea

undone harbor
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Wait where is the gray cyan bat in Sky

latent tendon
icy spruce
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I mean cyan

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I mean, what was the colour of the mask?

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The bat one

latent tendon
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Prophecy handstand

keen kettle
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The collectibles available in its Spirit Shop are the Fox Mask (often called the cat or bunny mask) and the small bell instrument.

The cosmetics it offers are the Weasel Mask (which looks like a fox), along with a little top hat

This is what it says

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They acknowledge the fact how they look like. I wonder what was the reason behind the names.

latent tendon
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My life is a lie

icy spruce
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O-

short owl
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There was a time when !foxmask said it is rabbit and fox

icy spruce
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I am in confusion

undone harbor
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I think the devs said the weasel mask was a weasel some time ago

keen kettle
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I just like the chaos. pPopcorn

short owl
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Oh

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It still does

keen kettle
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I think the devs said the weasel mask was a weasel some time ago
@undone harbor Could be. Lore hunters are very pedantic with the info.

short owl
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!foxmask

pastel brookBOT
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rafbobixt

undone harbor
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Skybot that doesn't help-

keen kettle
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That actually helps

latent tendon
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Wait

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If u pay attention

icy spruce
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It says rabbit and fox

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And it does not help

keen kettle
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ra F b O bi X t

latent tendon
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Skybot highlights F Ox

icy spruce
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SKYBOT WE NEED A SOLID ANSWER

keen kettle
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Fox is in bold

icy spruce
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Ya ik

undone harbor
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That's it that's a fox

latent tendon
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Fine

keen kettle
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!weaselmask

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Nah, was worth a shot

latent tendon
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Lets return to the power crystals theory

icy spruce
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Mhm

undone harbor
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Ok

supple sluice
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I saw the thing about why sanctuary has so much wl-

undone harbor
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And?

supple sluice
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Yanno, it's physically impossible to leave sanctuary alone...

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So maybe they just couldn't fly back up-

undone harbor
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Why?

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The mantas can bring us up

keen kettle
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That would make a lot of sense. Plus it is a welcoming place.

latent tendon
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I noticed something weird that the world of sky has water under the.. clouds

supple sluice
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At least for me, with my dumb 7 flaps, i can't exactly get back without return shrine-

icy spruce
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Sanc has about 1 2 3 4 5 6 WL I think

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Or was it 7 or 8?

supple sluice
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Believe me i tried ;u;

keen kettle
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Seal, the mantas bring you to the clouded waterfall place. No WL there.

undone harbor
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I mean the place to get back to bird nest

latent tendon
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Also mantas can interact with winged light

keen kettle
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Mantas bring you there?

supple sluice
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Oh-

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I forgot abbreviations of curses aren't allowed

undone harbor
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Yeah,I rode some some times

supple sluice
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Sorry

icy spruce
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I am confusion

keen kettle
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To the entrance of birds nest, specifically? All the way?

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Or towards that waterall hill in clouds. pPopcorn

undone harbor
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To the entrance of birds nest, specifically? All the way?
@keen kettle this

supple sluice
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I think they just vibe around the island...

icy spruce
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What

supple sluice
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Oh wInfjdfjf

icy spruce
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What're we even talking about-?

supple sluice
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It's tough for me to even get to the island above with-okay nvm

icy spruce
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I am very confused ;-;

supple sluice
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You had more important matters I'm sorry

keen kettle
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Never had a manta carry me to bird nest. Needs affirmation from others.

undone harbor
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Hmm...try the medium sized ones

latent tendon
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Idk I feel like the order in which the kingdoms are placed seems weird to me

keen kettle
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No Radian, I love this idea, just wanna confirm what I can.

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Medium sized... I have tried them.

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No result

supple sluice
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Ah

latent tendon
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If the corruption spread from eden all the way to wasteland

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Then valley would feel some effects too

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But it dosent

undone harbor
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I remember I rode one to the top even before the waterfall island reveal
I want to try again but I can't play Sky now ;-;

latent tendon
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But forest does

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And

icy spruce
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WAIT LEMME PROPOSE MY OTHE THEORY

keen kettle
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Could be winter

undone harbor
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Valley has some dark plants

latent tendon
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Its under a blanket of clouds

undone harbor
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WAIT LEMME PROPOSE MY OTHE THEORY
@icy spruce ooh?

latent tendon
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Like wasteland

icy spruce
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SO RIGHT AT THE PORTAL, VALLEY AND ISLE'S PORTALS ARE QUITE DAMAGED

keen kettle
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Valley has some dark plants
@undone harbor It does in the hall after the race

icy spruce
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BUT THE REALM IS NOT REALLY AFFECTED

supple sluice
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👀

icy spruce
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JUST A COUPLE OF DAKRPLANT

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BUUUTTTTT

latent tendon
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@keen kettle very few tho

supple sluice
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Ooooo!

undone harbor
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let them continue-

keen kettle
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@keen kettle very few tho
@latent tendon isle also has very few.

latent tendon
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Also

icy spruce
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PERHAPS THE ELDERS SACRIFICED A BIT OF THEIR POWERS

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TO MAKE THE EXPLOSION NOT HEAVILY DAMAGE THEIR REALMS

latent tendon
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Forest has a ton of darkness plants way more that valley

icy spruce
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AND DARKNESS CAN MEAN A LOT OF THINGS

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LIKE UHH DARK PERSONALITY AND ALL

keen kettle
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That would mean that happened before they became spirits, Ches.

short owl
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Those are the two elders who come to you

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Suggesting they were doing something else before you showed up

latent tendon
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Wait

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I think I understand why

keen kettle
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Lay it on us

latent tendon
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Forest is affected but valley isnt

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It could be that the darkness creeps from below

supple sluice
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You're right, there's not really any problems going on in isle and such-

undone harbor
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Forest has a lot of dark plants,probably because it's the place to make power diamonds so it has darkness more?

icy spruce
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I just said it's because the elder of Isle and Valley sacrificed a piece of themselves (ehem, Isle being it's physical form and Valley is the personality (aka, more competitive))

rose gorge
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valley is very ruined in terms of buildings and architecture

latent tendon
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And as both forest and wasteland are lower than most realms

icy spruce
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Yep, but it isn't much affected with darkness

keen kettle
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I theorize darkness has tough time growing in cold. Hence, No plantsnin Valley, and mind you, no plants in Eden either

icy spruce
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Perhaps

keen kettle
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The only time we see plants in valley, is indoors.

undone harbor
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Valley isn't a place where they produce diamonds or any industrial activities

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Sure

icy spruce
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Sure

latent tendon
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Suree

keen kettle
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Yep

latent tendon
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Hmm

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I had a thought

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When u start the race

icy spruce
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ye

undone harbor
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Yea

latent tendon
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The objective is to race down the thing

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And the city gates will open to honor u

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But yet

icy spruce
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mhm

latent tendon
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When u complete it

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There is no city

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Just a stadium

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So what if

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Wasteland

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Was supposed to be a city

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But for some reason the darkness took over it and the whole thing collapsed

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And our elders made a blanket of clouds to cover the whole thing so it doesn't effect valley

icy spruce
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After all, in the canon doc. It says GW and Valley WERE connected

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Golden Valley

keen kettle
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  1. After the vault elder shrine, you can see buildings above the clouds behind the hole to GW.
  2. Vault in concept was intended to be the heart of the ancient society. Which makes sense that GW is this warzone and fortress against intruders
latent tendon
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So wat if

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Actually

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We already knwo

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Eden is the starting part of the corruption

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So if we map things out

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Wasteland was supposed to be the lesser city

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Vault being the higher one

keen kettle
#

Spirit Memories of Weeping Miner and shipwright have darkness. Indicating that ancestors struggked with it before death. Either darkness existed before the eye, or there were survivors after the eye. The first option seems more realisitic

latent tendon
#

And eden being the road to ascend

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Yea

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So maybe

icy spruce
#

I mean darkness DID exists before the eye

latent tendon
#

This thing

icy spruce
#

After all, prophecy mural

latent tendon
#

Was mapped like this

keen kettle
#

Yep

vast haven
#

Krill definitely did exist before the eye

latent tendon
#

To protect the main city

icy spruce
#

Yep

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Karen the krill

vast haven
#

So other darkness probably did

keen kettle
#

Yep.

latent tendon
#

For forest assuming it was where darkness lurked

vast haven
#

I think we could extrapolate that the darkness started at Eden

latent tendon
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They put vault at the very end

vast haven
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And was transported to the most affected realms via pipes aka Forest and Wasteland

latent tendon
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Guarded by many buildings

keen kettle
#

We should take in mind industrialization. Darkness seemingly is most present in GW, coincidentally it is one of the most industrial zones. Eye was just a flame to gunpowder

vast haven
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Yesss exactly

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And I think like industrial pollution - stuff is insidious. And damage can take hold for ages before full destruction

latent tendon
#

@keen kettle destroying alot of protection and making vault vulnerable

vast haven
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So I'm sure the rain in forest and the water in Wasteland probably got poisoned over time

latent tendon
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And thus the darkness crept into the chamber

keen kettle
#

Eye did destroy everyone, leaving skids as these little creations of ancestors behind

latent tendon
#

Corrupting the archives

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And destroying eden

keen kettle
#

Eden was desteoyed by the eye, tho

vast haven
#

Well, are the archives corrupted?

latent tendon
#

But if we think it the other way

vast haven
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Cause they just seem like they went kablooey like eden

latent tendon
#

Maybe darkness crept into eden

keen kettle
#

Well, are the archives corrupted?
@vast haven Archicws canonicaly are

latent tendon
#

And corrupted the main power of the kingdom

keen kettle
#

There isbno darkness in eden, only krill

latent tendon
#

Uhhh

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Yea

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So krills crept into eden

vast haven
#

@keen kettle really? Is that why they're inaccessible? Could you direct me to a pin or something that has this?

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Also does the red rock in eden count as darkness? Since it does steal light?

icy spruce
#

Guess so

latent tendon
#

Also the only defenses they had against the krill was their use of weapons and the whurtle which is just defensive

keen kettle
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« As the restricted area decayed over time, an entrance appeared. There are knowledge/projection lanterns, sealed inside the large cubes. »

icy spruce
#

yes

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Anyways, imma go and lurk

keen kettle
#

Happy lurking

latent tendon
#

Happy lurks lurks

icy spruce
#

Thank you

#
  • disappears *
latent tendon
#

I gotta go Kreat too

vast haven
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Thanks! @keen kettle

So it just says that stuff decayed tho right? Not corrupted by darkness necessarily

keen kettle
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Correct

stoic stirrup
#

whoa that's actually quite an interesting detail

icy spruce
#

yes

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And if ya have noticed, it's always or atleast mostly the right side

stoic stirrup
#

which one's the rght one

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dora or kakashi

icy spruce
#

And you know who was the right one?

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Dora

stoic stirrup
#

:0

tender iron
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We should have a Sky cotl ice berg

sacred rapids
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in eden it's kaka tho right?

stoic stirrup
#

what did dora do...

tender iron
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Does that exist-

icy spruce
#

So I think Dora was less skilled than Kakashi

stoic stirrup
#

did she explora somewhere she wasn't supposed to..

icy spruce
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As seen in their cutscene

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Kakashi was the one who yeeted the light before Dora

keen kettle
#

That is a nice idea. I like it.

icy spruce
#

And all

stoic stirrup
#

i think dora's hockey stick is a bit smoller than kakashi

icy spruce
#

Perhaps Dora was the Elder that represents the lower-middle class

stoic stirrup
#

lmao with no context this conversation makes no sense

icy spruce
#

While Kakashi represents the higher

keen kettle
#

Valley does symbolize adulthood and competition, so may be a good pitch

icy spruce
#

The elders are not dead nor alive

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Just---limbo

sacred rapids
#

...they ain't ded tho....

latent tendon
#

Hoi im back

icy spruce
#

Hi Back, I'm Chesca

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How are you Back?

keen kettle
#

I mean, all we know is that last ancestors died when Eye happened. When exactly each persona dies is up for debate.

latent tendon
#

I know you

icy spruce
#

Ok

latent tendon
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Uhh

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I am not back

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Im front

lyric isle
#

YOOOOOO THE VALLEY THING

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wow

keen kettle
#

Also, I figured out who the small eye guy is.

sacred rapids
#

hmm?

latent tendon
#

I guess the other twin is underrated pSquint

icy spruce
#

Ooo

keen kettle
icy spruce
#

Yes

#

what about him?

sacred rapids
#

...it could be a her....

stoic stirrup
#

they's the moth yeeter

keen kettle
#

So, I did some rreading in the theories. Turns out most diamond shields have swords bashed in them. My guess he is one of the Sun side, holding guard to advance.

icy spruce
#

hhhhh

keen kettle
#

Making note on the candlez and the connection to statues of sanctuarry. Diamond is symbol for those who agree with the crystals. The flying bird statues: Sun folk

latent tendon
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I am counfused

sacred rapids
#

that statue sure has some buff arms

latent tendon
#

Have u seen the elder here?

keen kettle
#

Well at least that is how I think this little warriors story falls there.

latent tendon
#

He got buff everything except head

keen kettle
#

I love how proud champion was referenced to as a "Thumb for a head"

latent tendon
#

Maybe he is a spirit who lost its memory and is just a husk like the ones we see at the end after revealing the memories of other spirits

keen kettle
#

Plaussible. Or... and that is just a guess. We can experience memories only with those who side with the crystals.

icy spruce
#

Or it's just a statue

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That people built for no reason at all, lmao

keen kettle
#

Very odd place for a statue tho. pThink

latent tendon
#

Yea

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Imagine if tgc decides to give this statue a memory

icy spruce
#

hhhh

latent tendon
#

PPL WITH ELDER HAIR WOULD BE VERY CONFUSED

toxic delta
#

Emote yeet

latent tendon
#

Or maybe

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They move the fainting warriors

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Position to this spot

keen kettle
#

Yes to yeet emote

icy spruce
#

yes

latent tendon
#

YEET FRIEND SHIP EMOTE

#

U yeeet ur friend like a catapult

dark crater
#

Guys I'm confused

toxic delta
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Or equip cattapult

keen kettle
#

That goes to wishlist

latent tendon
#

Yup

#

Maybe

dark crater
#

In the battlefield area there are two types of weapons and two types of shields

latent tendon
#

A seasonal spirit oh wait they don't do that anymore

icy spruce
#

what

dark crater
#

In the outskirts there are round shields with spears stuck in them

keen kettle
#

Two shield theory

latent tendon
#

Putting them in the realm instead of new area

dark crater
#

But in front of the gate there are diamond shaped shields but they still have the spears hitting them

latent tendon
#

@dark crater which side?

icy spruce
#

Two shield theory intensifies

latent tendon
#

Of da map

dark crater
#

Left side near the entrance with the stairs iirc

latent tendon
#

Hmm

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Graveyard or battlefield?

dark crater
#

Battlefield

keen kettle
#

Any difference in spear designs?

dark crater
#

I don't think so

latent tendon
dark crater
#

I checked and they looked the same

keen kettle
#

Hmm...

latent tendon
#

Wait but

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If the sheilds have spears in them

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So its likely that the other side shot the spears

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Or maybe the people stuck their spears in their sheilds after the battle

dark crater
#

Maybe

#

Or

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There could be a third group of people

keen kettle
#

But the spears of same design are in both shields. That does shake the two shield theory

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Third group sounds exciting

latent tendon
#

Umm

dark crater
#

The group inside the gate with spears

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And the two groups outside battling each other

latent tendon
#

Light, darkness and...?

keen kettle
#

Hollup.

#

Hollip, hollup.

#

How exactly the spears look?

#

Diamond shaoed, or, like javelins of sorts (arrow shaped)?

dark crater
#

They are spears with two cuts on the sides of the stone part

lethal stump
dark crater
#

Those spears on the left

keen kettle
#

Guys...

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In office there is a memory with a skid carrying such spear

latent tendon
#

Wait

dark crater
#

Yall this is a revolutionary discovery

latent tendon
#

U see the octagon like sheild?

lethal stump
#

office isnt really lore-related

icy spruce
#

office is an easter egg

latent tendon
#

It has a sun like symbol

dark crater
#

Yeah

latent tendon
#

And the

#

Pentagon like sheild has the light symbol

icy spruce
#

mhm

latent tendon
#

The elder spear

#

Has the star symbol on it

dark crater
#

Wait so

latent tendon
#

Maybe I'm over analyzing

#

But I think

dark crater
#

That's smart lol

latent tendon
#

The third group

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Could be related to the sun like symbol

icy spruce
#

true

dark crater
#

This is definately going in my fanfiction-

icy spruce
#

what

dark crater
#

Lmao jk

#

But

#

Which weapons did the elder wield?

latent tendon
#

The spear

icy spruce
#

speaaarrr

dark crater
#

Yeah but there was also a shield on the side of its temple statue

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It was the octagon one iirc

latent tendon
#

Wats the other type of weapon called?

dark crater
#

Sword?

icy spruce
#

Sword, paddle, whatevs

dark crater
#

Wait

latent tendon
#

Look too long for a sword to me

dark crater
#

Didn't the valley elders have a similar weapon to the sword?

latent tendon
#

👀

dark crater
#

I'm calling it sword bc I don't know what to call it

icy spruce
#

not really

#

It looks like an oar or whatever you call it

latent tendon
#

Its pretty similar

icy spruce
#

I mean, before Valley's race was based on boats

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That was BEFORE

latent tendon
#

Chesca u have a screenshot of the valley twins.

icy spruce
#

No, imma search for google

dark crater
#

Yeah that's true

icy spruce
#

Since I'm on laptop

hushed steeple
#

I am just gonna leave this here-

latent tendon
#

Similar but definitely not the same thing

icy spruce
#

Thank you for saving me

#

Yep

dark crater
#

Oh no sorry guys they're not the same

icy spruce
#

Looks like oars

#

Since before Valley race was based on boats I think

#

I T H I N K

dark crater
#

Yeah they do look like oars tho

keen kettle
#

Cricket bats

dark crater
#

Or something to play a sport with

latent tendon
#

But

#

There are no boats in valley right?

icy spruce
#

There is

#

Just buried

keen kettle
#

Yep

icy spruce
#

Don't have the screenshot

#

Right now

latent tendon
#

Oh yea

#

Under da sea

#

Where is it is weter

#

The boat is better

icy spruce
#

what

keen kettle
#

Boats ar prominent throughout the story. Main mode of transportation.

icy spruce
#

yes

latent tendon
#

Yea

icy spruce
#

The capes of the spirits are just for decorations

dark crater
#

So if there were actually three sides of the battle

icy spruce
#

To symbolises it's rank/something I forgot the word

dark crater
#

Then which one was the elder on?

keen kettle
#

Prestige

latent tendon
#

Id like to say star

#

STAR SYMBOL

keen kettle
#

But if ancestors may have created the skids, one may imagine they had that technology of flight as well.

icy spruce
#

It was on the diamond

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Then betrayed

latent tendon
#

not the sun star symbol

icy spruce
#

And sun

#

According

#

to the

#

2 shields theory I think

#

He was diamond then sun according to the theory

#

But hey, who knows?

#

Well, the devs know

keen kettle
#

Well, you can also note that battles tend to be oppurtunistic. Perhaps spears were utilized by other side in the heat of the battle?

dark crater
#

Lol yeah they do they're probably having fun seeing us make all those theories

#

Perhaps

keen kettle
#

I wonder what they feel if one of us gets it right?

dark crater
#

Or maybe they were used later on the krills

latent tendon
#

But wouldn't the side opposing the krills be at a better place using spears by attacking the krills as they are airborne

dark crater
#

After the battle was finished

#

Yeah that makes sense

keen kettle
#

Krills didn aling to a side. Both sides hated krills I think. One was simply ready to deal with them in exchange of technolohical advancement.

latent tendon
#

And if the fight was in between darkness and light alone then the darkness would need something with hands to be able to use the sheilds

#

OR

#

WAT IF

#

THERE WAS A BETRAYAL

dark crater
#

What if the ones that were ok with the krills

#

Were krills

keen kettle
#

Dunno, krills do seem selfloathing

dark crater
#

But then they wouldn't exactly need weapons

latent tendon
#

Krills are probably not even alive they are probably controlled due to their behavior

toxic delta
#

Wow I knew sky went through the apocalypse but I didn't know it went through war everytime I read the lore discussion here the darker sky gets hur hur

latent tendon
#

But I still do think there was a betrayal

keen kettle
#

Lol. I do love the purpose for skidsz that I have deduced. Very bittersweet

dark crater
#

Wait

#

Betrayal

#

Perhaps

#

There were two sides

#

But the group of traitors with the elder

#

Turned on its own teammates

keen kettle
#

Which elder?

latent tendon
#

That's wat im thinking

dark crater
#

The wasteland elder

hushed steeple
#

Wasteland Elder I think

keen kettle
#

Okay, so.

dark crater
#

That passed from diamond to sun

latent tendon
#

The war was between light and dark

#

The traitors were on the light side

#

Because of them

#

They lost the war

#

And darkness won over wasteland

dark crater
#

So did the elder betray

#

Or got betrayed

latent tendon
#

Got

keen kettle
#

In the cutscene the elder is shown to e fighting till he falls on knees, before the skid shows up. Seems somewhat protecyive in a way.

Also, if he betrayed the crystals, surely his spirit would reside somewhere else, not by the entrance of vault, seemingly guarding it.

latent tendon
#

Betrayed

dark crater
#

So

#

The darkness has the spears and the diamond shields?

latent tendon
#

No

#

Ugh

#

Ok

dark crater
#

I'm confused lol

hushed steeple
#

The darkness winning the war kind of explains the Wasteland's state right now-

dark crater
#

The spears and the diamond shaped shields have the same symbol

latent tendon
#

DARKNESS HAS NO WEAPONS, but the traitors on the light side did, so thats why

keen kettle
#

Darkness has no one. Its a fight between thise whi cause darkness, (accidentally) and those who hider the progress to protect from that darkness.

dark crater
#

Ohhhhh

icy spruce
#

ee

keen kettle
#

Its the industries vs hippies narrative.

icy spruce
#

I-

latent tendon
#

Lmao

icy spruce
#

Imma commit King right now, adios

dark crater
#

Lol

icy spruce
#

Exclude the blowing up part

keen kettle
#

Aww...

latent tendon
#

Chesca did u leave?

dark crater
#

She didn't leave

#

She just did a king move

latent tendon
#

Oh

dark crater
#

Yeah she left I think lol

keen kettle
#

Welp, gotta check up on my buds in sky. Was nice theorizing.

dark crater
#

Imma go too

#

It was pretty fun chatting here lmao

icy spruce
#

yes, more people

dark crater
#

Bye guys stickerPeace

toxic delta
#

for non nefarious purposes but how many pegs does a krill have :0

latent tendon
#

Bye!

#

Uhhh

#

Hmm

#

I dont have a pic of krill but we did we could count them

#

If*

#

And mist saves the day again

icy spruce
#

what

latent tendon
#

Mist gonna send a pic

hushed steeple
#

It has more than 10 limbs, I haven't counted them but it looks like it was probably 20 limbs-

keen kettle
#

Couldnt help but sense krill

latent tendon
#

12×2=24 limbs

#

Oh nvm

#

-2

icy spruce
#

spikey shrimps but has good posture

toxic delta
#

Thank you guys expect some krill art soon 👌🦐

icy spruce
#

what

toxic delta
#

On a side note I wonder if they molt

wide path
#

That leaves a terrifying image in my mind

#

Imagine finding a krill skin in wasteland

latent tendon
#

Ok that be creepy and fun

wide path
#

Though I am pretty sure that krill are some sort of machine? Since they have pre-set routes

latent tendon
#

U prank krills with ur friend by becoming the krill

wide path
#

Its like those dragon parade things but a krill

icy spruce
#

Pretty sure they aren't since

  1. They exist before technology was advance as present Sky (I think)
#

And they exists long time ago (prophecy mural)

wide path
#

They might not be made by the spirits

latent tendon
#

Maybe they are husks

wide path
#

But yeah that is a good point

latent tendon
#

Manifested by corrupted memories

wide path
#

On a completely different note, do you guys have any hypotheses as to what sky kids are and where they come from? I always sort of assumed they were a sort of gulom for the spirits, since they seem to be made of wax or clay.

icy spruce
#

I would say Skids are a husk just too collect WL. They probs came from Megan.

#

But eh

wide path
#

may I ask who Megan is?

icy spruce
#

Mega bird

wide path
#

oh

icy spruce
#

The 'god' of Sky

#

Well, not exactly canon god of Sky

wide path
#

I see

latent tendon
#

M E G AN

icy spruce
#

More like fanon

latent tendon
icy spruce
#

I-

latent tendon
#

Be afraid of the mantas

worn flint
#

Hm, does spirit mantas count 'dead,?

#

Like, are they spirit's of the mantas pPopcorn

icy spruce
#

Perhaps

#

I would call them to be a memory

wide path
#

is everything is sky dead?

latent tendon
#

pJellyfish jellies have a preety similar look

icy spruce
#

After all, Vault is probably a dream--or illusion

#

Perhaps

#

Well, the ancestors are dead

#

The creatures---no I guess

latent tendon
#

Wait in office chart explaining the realms

icy spruce
#

Ah, you mean the stages of life ones?

latent tendon
#

They don't mention vault

#

Something dere

icy spruce
#

Oh

#

Anyways, Imma lurk and occasionally pop out of nowhere

hushed steeple
#

Ok

latent tendon
#

Okie

worn flint
#

ah yeah, maybe that's why they are spirits it's a dream, not completed.?

#

Plus if it's a dream journey, are the sky kids literally asleep?

latent tendon
#

But they never wake up?

wide path
#

Or maybe eden is where they wake up, only to fall back asleep again the next night

latent tendon
#

Ima cook a very WILD THEORY

#

Wat if skykids are one a space mission

#

And they in hyper sleep

#

They experience everything in dreams

#

But wake up

worn flint
#

Or maybe, vault is an archive right?

latent tendon
#

And thats where orbit is

worn flint
#

What if, the elder let's us live their memories?

latent tendon
#

Oooo

worn flint
#

So they make us fall asleep, and we experince the knowladge they have to give to us?

#

Since vault is about,, knowladge right?

latent tendon
#

Yea

#

But

#

According to the fan lore

#

The archives are corrupted

worn flint
#

Hm

#

ah wait

#

So, the elder is slowly dying

#

So they are slowly losing their memories?

latent tendon
#

Possibly

icy spruce
#

The archives aren't corrupted, just hidden---but as time passes by, an entrance was revealed

worn flint
#

pPopcorn alright time to annoy my best friend with this lore knowladge

wide path
#

Mabey the archives are on power saver mode

icy spruce
#

What

wide path
#

Like, that could be why its so dark

#

they are running out of power

icy spruce
#

Also, the elders aren't dead nor alive---just on limbo

worn flint
#

well, tired then?

#

I mean

#

' Ready to give their know-ladge to the next generation ,

#

My english today saying no

icy spruce
#

what

wide path
#

Vault could be the last of their power, when they run out the spirits disappear

latent tendon
#

But prarie is just fineee

#

And so is isle

worn flint
#

Well not disappear like-- kinda giving up slowly

icy spruce
#

Prarie is not exactly fine

#

It has loads of darkplants

latent tendon
#

Ok isle is fine

wide path
#

idk, the spirits don't seem to really be there

icy spruce
#

Valley and Isle is kindaaa fine----well, they both have little dark plants but Valley's building are quite destroyed

dark crater
#

Perhaps the spirits are trapped there

icy spruce
#

Isle is like, the farthest realm to eden

dark crater
#

And we have to relieve their memories to let them rest in peace

icy spruce
#

So maybe cause of that

worn flint
#

Prairie is a village, a ghost village

icy spruce
#

yep

fast jasper
#

ghost town

latent tendon
#

Oooooo

worn flint
#

So it basically fell apart too.

#

Valley was also a city, So it's also a ghost town?

dark crater
#

Basically everything fell apart

icy spruce
#

yes

fast jasper
#

forest is like an industrial site?

icy spruce
#

yes

#

Forest and GW are industrial and all

latent tendon
#

@worn flint we did discuss of how wasteland could have been a city

icy spruce
#

Oh and in canon doc

worn flint
#

I have something about wasteland

latent tendon
#

But darkness took over

dark crater
#

Wait but what if the war in wasteland

worn flint
#

If you guys wanna hear,

icy spruce
#

GW and Valley WERE connected

dark crater
#

Wasn't between light and darkness

icy spruce
#

2 SHIELDS THEORY

dark crater
#

But between light and light

worn flint
#

Well, did Valley need diamonds?

dark crater
#

And darkness originated from the conflict

icy spruce
#

Valley did kinda need diamonds I guess

#

I mean they use diamonds

latent tendon
#

Uhh

keen kettle
#

Okay guys....

latent tendon
#

Darkness existed

keen kettle
#

Two shield theory

latent tendon
#

Before the war

icy spruce
#

WHO HAS THE 2 SHIELD THEORY DOCCC

dark crater
#

No I mean like darkness as in the krills sorry

keen kettle
#

Which side you think GW elder belonged to? Sun or crystal?

fast jasper
#

feeling like the sunburst side was vault and gw
and
diamond side was foret and valley while prairie and isle remained neutral says i in this two shields theory

worn flint
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Basically , , In my theory and my friend's theory. Wasteland was a forest who burnt down because of the factories

dark crater
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Idk by the one I read people were fighting over a diamond thing

worn flint
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It was a forest with a shore. (ship wreck part)

wide path
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Idk, if vault has the last of the power source, and the spirits are projections, living memories, it would make sense that they would start to fade as vault loses power

latent tendon
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Prophet of vitamin c gibe me infinite vitamin sea

dark crater
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Sun maybe

keen kettle
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So. GW elder is definitely a sun boi.

dark crater
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Wait

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But the spear

wide path
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sorry I started typing that a while ago, but I didn't get a chance to send it and it seems the conversation moved on lol

dark crater
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Has the diamond symbol

icy spruce
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GW stated by the theory, was with the diamonds---but then went to the sun

latent tendon
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:_

dark crater
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@wide path thats a cool theory

worn flint
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Yeah , GW was a forest who got burnt down? Or a city who got over toxic by the factory

wide path
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Thank you C:

latent tendon
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Hmm so the third party theory?

icy spruce
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Oh there was a theory 'bout that

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The GW was a forest

wide path
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Aren't there a lot of boats in Wasteland?

dark crater
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Idk about the third part theory anymore

icy spruce
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Yes

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Every realm has a boat buried

latent tendon
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Hmm wait

fast jasper
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guys guys have tou notice that there’s a giant anchor in forgotten ark

keen kettle
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There are only two types of weapons tho? Why carry a shield and no weapon, Snow?

latent tendon
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The forest

wide path
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So it might have been an ocean, ooo a floating city

latent tendon
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Explains the big circular holes

worn flint
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Ah yeah an Island city

latent tendon
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In the clouds

worn flint
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Factories would be perfect for it, since the toxic water can be spilled to the ocen

dark crater
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But the spears are the same color of the circular shields

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So idk

icy spruce
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Well, GW is underneath

worn flint
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but then boom krills and crabs, corrupted city and everything falling apart?

wide path
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This could be a pollution narrative for sure

latent tendon
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But then

fast jasper
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feeling like gw and vault were sunburst side and forest and valley was diamond side

wide path
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crabs evolved to be able to live in the toxic environments

icy spruce
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There's a theory of the dark water was from Eden but then was spread to GW by the pipes

latent tendon
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WHY IS IT A DESSERT

wide path
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Crabs are an invasive species

fast jasper
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it got burnt to a crisp

icy spruce
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It's probably ashes or sand or snow (GOLDEN VALLEEYYYY)

latent tendon
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Desert*

keen kettle
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I think oil was a thing before the eye. Deterioration just made it spill.

worn flint
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Wasteland and eden doesn't get connected tho, like there should be toxic in vault too if there was eden water in gw

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feel like it's ashes

icy spruce
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There's no pipes in Vault- Is there?

wide path
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Many oceans become deserts once the water gets moved

worn flint
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Ashes and sand since there is a shore at wasteland.

wide path
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same with lakes

worn flint
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Nope, there isn't

keen kettle
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Wasteland and eden doesn't get connected tho, like there should be toxic in vault too if there was eden water in gw
@worn flint Vault is said to be a dream state

dark crater
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Wait so the diamond side wanted to industrialize diamonds and the sunburst side wanted light to be free right?

worn flint
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Yes that's also true.

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I know, Lime

latent tendon
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@worn flint Yea and we talked if the entire vault is a dream and the end part is the true vault

icy spruce
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Yes

worn flint
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Yes, I know.

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Exactly, It feels like waste-land was an Island city with trees who burnt down

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for a factory

wide path
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oh, the end could just be a power plant blowing up

keen kettle
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How does the graveyard come into forest theory?

worn flint
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Well, manta bones?

icy spruce
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No idea

wide path
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The darkness could just be abstract polution

latent tendon
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And why is there a war?

keen kettle
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Definitely trutle bones.

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Skulls

icy spruce
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Light creature abuse

latent tendon
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@worn flint those bones are too big to mantas

worn flint
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Fish then?

dark crater
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So there's a war because the diamond side wanted to make a lot of power diamonds

latent tendon
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Be of*

worn flint
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Yeah that

icy spruce
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Since darkstone MIGHT be made from light creatures and darkness

dark crater
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And the sunburst side wanted light to be free

worn flint
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The war of diamond side and the ones who want gw not to get burnt.