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we are either inside or above the eden crystals
if that is the case, why we can only meet our reflection near the diamond??
this is some conspiracy goin on rn
i feel we are inside our statue
and our spirit goes on to orbit then world as chil of ligth
Guess who'll be honking continuously the next time they go to eden
our statue shattered man
can be seen clearly when there are other players in the same eden area
and when u do eden with friends the spirit of the first ones to become staue stay with u to give support
thats the feeling of disconecting your mind and spirit from your physical form
your reality shatters

c on s p i r a c y aaaaaaa
but we pull the glowy boi up-
(also is there a map for where the realms in sky is
like imagine the whole game is put in this big space where vault level is above,home is under,and so on
if there was one already then where can I find it
if not should I make it,not that it's important anyways,just wanted to ask you guys)
jmm ive never seen a complete map that joins the different realms
only seen individual of each realm like a prairie with the different locations and stuff
If you're talking about the surface of the realms map then maybe someone did that,idk
and when u do eden with friends the spirit of the first ones to become staue stay with u to give support
wait
WHAT
oh
oh nvm-
xd
legit thought you were reffering to the first fallen statues
not the other players lmao
If you're talking about the surface of the realms map then maybe someone did that,idk
@undone harbor pretty sure there are some maps in the sky wiki not sure if what you are looking for tho maybe good inspiration!
light juice
mmm yes refreshing
well when u lose all your light in the world like if u get krilled to death
maybe that how one would become a shinyboi
Red diamonds just sap up light. Our shiny boi was probably a victim of that
stop shinyboi abuse
/pffffffftt vibe check shinyboi
eeeeee
I want a spoilor for next Season
Anyone have any
I am a little bored of Prophecy now..
it has new cosmetics and emotes
@civic wave Bravo, that is something New
And a new place
Spoiler for new season: it has spirits!!!
rest of content illegal
It has land
@icy spruce Wow! I can never have though of that
It will take place in sky
You people are Interestingly Intelligent
!omgomghaveyouseenthe
Conversations, pics, and videos about the beta are spoilers
Please keep them in #beta-discussion or #beta-screenshots-videos.
It will take place in sky
@radiant roost Awesome man
maybe snaks
/yea if we do we cant share it here
OMG THE NEW SEASON WILL HAVE CANDLES!11!!!1111!!11!1!
/yea if we do we cant share it here
@gilded fossil Then why it is named as a spoilor Server
YOOOO U SERIOUS??
YESSS
CANDLES!!!!!
HFGVBDNICFVHDSCVFDS
live content spoiler
And mostly lore
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byeee
OMG THE NEW SEASON WILL HAVE CANDLES!11!!!1111!!11!1!
shocking
Huh?
does anyone have a screenshot of the megabird?
Can u explain i dont understand the excitement about... candles?
:<
And we spoiled them
Nice one
Like, there will be new cosmetics, new places. it will be on Sky, IT HAS CANDLESS
IT HAS WAX OMG OMG
WOW
Okay, why does the Prince's mask look like an upside down cross?
The wat
Prince's mask
Is that supposed to represent corrupt/evil?

Hmmm, maybe if you consider King and Prince to be the same person

But if not, well no idea
is there a picture of the prince? am confuse
Wait can u send a screenshot of prince's mask?
wait
Another person who i share my brain cell with
It's exactly like the prophecy symbol
yes
BOOP
thanks!
no problemo
King and prince may be same being in different times.
That or they're actually different person
Well, some theories suggest greed
Because the King wanted more power (and diamonds)
ngl i kinda want game theory on this
Yes
POWER DIAMONDS
I reckon, King was corrupted by the eye of eden. So far I speculate King is trapped in the eye which is why he doesn't appear as elder.
ANDDDD CUT
Well, the connection between the eye and the king via concept art and premise is hard to deny. It is said by the devs that king is definitely present in some form, yet we never see him in game.
The king concept art reminds me of vault towet as a whole
So I have been drawing king's mask wrong all the time
Aaaaa-
That theory is very likely to be true
Vault is said to be a dreamlike state. Which does explain the absence of Krill.
And Vault might be an illusion/dream
You are on wasteland gas and polluted water
Also vault is Gaurded by the wasteland soldiers
Since at the end, we are at the true vault. The heavily damaged elevator and the debris everywhere are my proof.
:]
Since at the end, we are at the true vault. The heavily damaged elevator and the debris everywhere are my proof.
@icy spruce That's a nice observation. I like that.
Thanks
Vault is guarded by the soldiers, but I do like the Two shield theory as it does put finger on many things
I think the first 3 floors or just the ground floor isn't in that dream-like state
I too also like the 2 shields theory
So uh
Maybe the vault is just not the way it is shown at the start of the realm, maybe we somehow go in the last
Past*
Are sky kids boys or girls
Or does that depend on the player's customization
I would say the Vault dream may be seamless, Seal.
Depends
Skids are genderless
So- when you start the game
I can get whether my avatar is a boy or a girl?
They're a 'they'
I would go as far as to say that Skids have no gender. Since they are artificial.
Or maybe we are seeing the memories of the vault spirits
They're a 'they'
@icy spruce it's going to be hard writing a fanfic about 5 sky kids
All while referring they to them all lmao
lmao
everything in sky is gender neutral ! but you’re welcome to pick genders for them if that’s what you like, just don’t enforce on others
Well
You can assign them any genders you want to
Vault lanterns espeicially in archive are said to house memories.
And KNAWLEGE
I would even say that a skid is an "it" rather than they
Well sky kids don't have any specific traits as they all look the same at the start so..
I want to read the memory cubes so bad-
ikr
Yes
@keen kettle yea and u have to light those lanterns to activate the elevator
Yes
Its fanart. Your freedom.
Cool
yep
Fanfic* but yeah
So maybe we are fueling the elevator with the memories of the past
Ooh link me when you finish
@keen kettle yea and u have to light those lanterns to activate the elevator
@latent tendon That grands access to more dreamlike state.
We are lighting them up so-
@keen kettle exactly
Elevator itself is an enigma. No explanation has been given.
Wat is an enigma?
So we have this big crystal under the elevator
Perhaps as someone (not exactly) said, 'Maybe when we meditate it makes us you know? Fall deeper in the dream.' (aka, dreamlike state.)
Wat is an enigma?
@latent tendon Something that is beyond our understanding, for theblack of better explanation.
Perhaps as someone (not exactly) said, 'Maybe when we meditate it makes us you know? Fall deeper in the dream.' (aka, dreamlike state.)
@icy spruce It would make sense. I would say, meditation is skids powering devices. They are filled with light and are artificial. Why would a boat fly to ark? Power.
Maybe the big crystal under the elevator is an experiment before the making of the giant power diamond in Eden
When we finish vault we see the elevator is broken
Maybe it malfunctioned and blew up
Wat if eden was the source of these crystals before the corruption
Like the giant diamond
Seal, I think it is a good thing to make note of. Eye of eden may be some device that granted access to orbit, but was unusuable by ancestors, perhaps due to some incompatibility. Hence the elevator may be a predecessor to the eye.
Well, there is theory about when the big crystal in Eden blew up. It affected the other diamonds making a bigger mess.
Hey so I need help with another thing
Oh,never heard of that,thanks
I decided to refer to the kids based on their cosmetics
So perhaps the diamond under the elevator destroyed the elevator.
Aka masks mostly
Oh ok
So?
Well note that, Vault is a dream. The true vailt, as Ches stated, is just before eden.
So the corrupted crystals have lost their power and therefore they consume your energy
So as far as I gathered I'll be making a fanfic about 5 kids
I already refer to to as "long haired" and "short haired"
But i can't remember any other masks then the "fox mask"
They perhaps lost the light used to balance the diamond
Since diamonds might be made by light and darkness
So even if the corruption theory is correct, the vault we experience may very well be pre-eye vault.
And I don't want something as wacky as a samurai mask lol
You can send pictures of the masks so we can name them
I mean, after all. The diamonds consumes our flame to open the doors like forest
Also, wiki has them.
But it doesn't damage our light
Or maybe the true vault is corrupted but we never experience it?
It only consumes a part of our light
Not ultra-suck
True, but it is a device. Many do think that frystals are basically powering catalysts.
Perhaps it's because there's light in that darkstone that stops the darkness in the diamond to completely absorb our light
Or maybe the true vault is corrupted but we never experience it?
@latent tendon Archives are said to be corrupted.
Are there a lot of animal based masks?
Frystals
Get your fried crystal for the price of a candle
Crystals
I feel like i said something dumb
That's ok, I also can be extremely dumb at times too.
can i get a name of just two animal based masks
I wear a bunni mask cauze earz
I wear chibi mask cause O O B S
Okay that's one
All four trial spirits: turtle, bat, tarantula, lion
And anubis masks (Ultimate gift of Prophecy)
Thanks
Huff puff anubis maskk
W e a s e l
Yes
How can anyone forget the weasel
Weasel is best mask
Y e s
what
I am not that keen on animal masks
Is DA WEASEL MASK
Also Rhythm has bird masks
A lot
Lets look it uo, shall we?
Are u confusing fox wiff rabbit?
I love the duck
I like the owl
There are no rabbit masks,I think
Ye, I just noticed that
All 4 masks (except for ultimate) are birds from rythm
oh boy before we have a whole debate on mask names: they're up to your interpretation just like the lore 
LEAP EMOTE IS NOT A FOX MASK
Leap emote?the joy one?
eeeee
THIS IS NOT A FOX
leap is a bunny, sassy is a weasel iirc
That's the fox mask
Wiki says otherwise.
wiki isn’t dev info
How can a bunny be that red
ohh
Well, wiki is editable 
bunny mask has big bunny ears
If you feel strongly about it
@lethal stump YES
I am now enlightened.
FOXES HAVE POINTY NOSES ITS A FACT
We should ask the devs sometimes

@undone harbor we have gray cyan bats!?
Wait where is the gray cyan bat in Sky

Prophecy handstand
The collectibles available in its Spirit Shop are the Fox Mask (often called the cat or bunny mask) and the small bell instrument.
The cosmetics it offers are the Weasel Mask (which looks like a fox), along with a little top hat
This is what it says
They acknowledge the fact how they look like. I wonder what was the reason behind the names.
My life is a lie
O-
There was a time when !foxmask said it is rabbit and fox
I am in confusion
I think the devs said the weasel mask was a weasel some time ago
I just like the chaos. 
I think the devs said the weasel mask was a weasel some time ago
@undone harbor Could be. Lore hunters are very pedantic with the info.
!foxmask
rafbobixt
Skybot that doesn't help-
That actually helps
ra F b O bi X t
Skybot highlights F Ox
SKYBOT WE NEED A SOLID ANSWER
Fox is in bold
Ya ik
That's it that's a fox
Fine
Lets return to the power crystals theory
Mhm
Ok
I saw the thing about why sanctuary has so much wl-
And?
Yanno, it's physically impossible to leave sanctuary alone...
So maybe they just couldn't fly back up-
That would make a lot of sense. Plus it is a welcoming place.
I noticed something weird that the world of sky has water under the.. clouds
At least for me, with my dumb 7 flaps, i can't exactly get back without return shrine-
Believe me i tried ;u;
Seal, the mantas bring you to the clouded waterfall place. No WL there.
I mean the place to get back to bird nest
Also mantas can interact with winged light
Mantas bring you there?
Yeah,I rode some some times
Sorry
I am confusion
To the entrance of birds nest, specifically? All the way?
Or towards that waterall hill in clouds. 
To the entrance of birds nest, specifically? All the way?
@keen kettle this
I think they just vibe around the island...
What
Oh wInfjdfjf
What're we even talking about-?
It's tough for me to even get to the island above with-okay nvm
I am very confused ;-;
You had more important matters I'm sorry
Never had a manta carry me to bird nest. Needs affirmation from others.
Hmm...try the medium sized ones
Idk I feel like the order in which the kingdoms are placed seems weird to me
No Radian, I love this idea, just wanna confirm what I can.
Medium sized... I have tried them.
No result
Ah
If the corruption spread from eden all the way to wasteland
Then valley would feel some effects too
But it dosent
I remember I rode one to the top even before the waterfall island reveal
I want to try again but I can't play Sky now ;-;
WAIT LEMME PROPOSE MY OTHE THEORY
Could be winter
Valley has some dark plants
Its under a blanket of clouds
WAIT LEMME PROPOSE MY OTHE THEORY
@icy spruce ooh?
Like wasteland
SO RIGHT AT THE PORTAL, VALLEY AND ISLE'S PORTALS ARE QUITE DAMAGED
Valley has some dark plants
@undone harbor It does in the hall after the race
BUT THE REALM IS NOT REALLY AFFECTED
👀
@keen kettle very few tho
Ooooo!
let them continue-
@keen kettle very few tho
@latent tendon isle also has very few.
Also
PERHAPS THE ELDERS SACRIFICED A BIT OF THEIR POWERS
TO MAKE THE EXPLOSION NOT HEAVILY DAMAGE THEIR REALMS
Forest has a ton of darkness plants way more that valley
That would mean that happened before they became spirits, Ches.
Those are the two elders who come to you
Suggesting they were doing something else before you showed up
Lay it on us
Forest is affected but valley isnt
It could be that the darkness creeps from below
You're right, there's not really any problems going on in isle and such-
Forest has a lot of dark plants,probably because it's the place to make power diamonds so it has darkness more?
I just said it's because the elder of Isle and Valley sacrificed a piece of themselves (ehem, Isle being it's physical form and Valley is the personality (aka, more competitive))
valley is very ruined in terms of buildings and architecture
And as both forest and wasteland are lower than most realms
Yep, but it isn't much affected with darkness
I theorize darkness has tough time growing in cold. Hence, No plantsnin Valley, and mind you, no plants in Eden either
Perhaps
The only time we see plants in valley, is indoors.
Valley isn't a place where they produce diamonds or any industrial activities
Sure
Sure
Suree
Yep
ye
Yea
The objective is to race down the thing
And the city gates will open to honor u
But yet
mhm
When u complete it
There is no city
Just a stadium
So what if
Wasteland
Was supposed to be a city
But for some reason the darkness took over it and the whole thing collapsed
And our elders made a blanket of clouds to cover the whole thing so it doesn't effect valley
- After the vault elder shrine, you can see buildings above the clouds behind the hole to GW.
- Vault in concept was intended to be the heart of the ancient society. Which makes sense that GW is this warzone and fortress against intruders
So wat if
Actually
We already knwo
Eden is the starting part of the corruption
So if we map things out
Wasteland was supposed to be the lesser city
Vault being the higher one
Spirit Memories of Weeping Miner and shipwright have darkness. Indicating that ancestors struggked with it before death. Either darkness existed before the eye, or there were survivors after the eye. The first option seems more realisitic
I mean darkness DID exists before the eye
This thing
After all, prophecy mural
Was mapped like this
Yep
Krill definitely did exist before the eye
To protect the main city
So other darkness probably did
Yep.
For forest assuming it was where darkness lurked
I think we could extrapolate that the darkness started at Eden
They put vault at the very end
And was transported to the most affected realms via pipes aka Forest and Wasteland
Guarded by many buildings
We should take in mind industrialization. Darkness seemingly is most present in GW, coincidentally it is one of the most industrial zones. Eye was just a flame to gunpowder
Yesss exactly
And I think like industrial pollution - stuff is insidious. And damage can take hold for ages before full destruction
@keen kettle destroying alot of protection and making vault vulnerable
So I'm sure the rain in forest and the water in Wasteland probably got poisoned over time
And thus the darkness crept into the chamber
Eye did destroy everyone, leaving skids as these little creations of ancestors behind
Eden was desteoyed by the eye, tho
Well, are the archives corrupted?
But if we think it the other way
Cause they just seem like they went kablooey like eden
Maybe darkness crept into eden
Well, are the archives corrupted?
@vast haven Archicws canonicaly are
And corrupted the main power of the kingdom
There isbno darkness in eden, only krill
@keen kettle really? Is that why they're inaccessible? Could you direct me to a pin or something that has this?
Also does the red rock in eden count as darkness? Since it does steal light?
Guess so
Also the only defenses they had against the krill was their use of weapons and the whurtle which is just defensive
« As the restricted area decayed over time, an entrance appeared. There are knowledge/projection lanterns, sealed inside the large cubes. »
Happy lurking
Happy lurks lurks
Thanks! @keen kettle
So it just says that stuff decayed tho right? Not corrupted by darkness necessarily
Correct
whoa that's actually quite an interesting detail
:0
We should have a Sky cotl ice berg
in eden it's kaka tho right?
what did dora do...
Does that exist-
So I think Dora was less skilled than Kakashi
did she explora somewhere she wasn't supposed to..
That is a nice idea. I like it.
And all
i think dora's hockey stick is a bit smoller than kakashi
Perhaps Dora was the Elder that represents the lower-middle class
lmao with no context this conversation makes no sense
While Kakashi represents the higher
Valley does symbolize adulthood and competition, so may be a good pitch
...they ain't ded tho....
Hoi im back
I mean, all we know is that last ancestors died when Eye happened. When exactly each persona dies is up for debate.
I know you
Ok
Also, I figured out who the small eye guy is.
hmm?
I guess the other twin is underrated 
Ooo
This dude.
...it could be a her....
they's the moth yeeter
So, I did some rreading in the theories. Turns out most diamond shields have swords bashed in them. My guess he is one of the Sun side, holding guard to advance.
hhhhh
Making note on the candlez and the connection to statues of sanctuarry. Diamond is symbol for those who agree with the crystals. The flying bird statues: Sun folk
I am counfused
that statue sure has some buff arms
Have u seen the elder here?
Well at least that is how I think this little warriors story falls there.
He got buff everything except head
I love how proud champion was referenced to as a "Thumb for a head"
Maybe he is a spirit who lost its memory and is just a husk like the ones we see at the end after revealing the memories of other spirits
Plaussible. Or... and that is just a guess. We can experience memories only with those who side with the crystals.
Very odd place for a statue tho. 
hhhh
PPL WITH ELDER HAIR WOULD BE VERY CONFUSED
Emote yeet
Yes to yeet emote
yes
Guys I'm confused
Or equip cattapult
That goes to wishlist
In the battlefield area there are two types of weapons and two types of shields
A seasonal spirit oh wait they don't do that anymore
what
In the outskirts there are round shields with spears stuck in them
Two shield theory
Putting them in the realm instead of new area
But in front of the gate there are diamond shaped shields but they still have the spears hitting them
@dark crater which side?
Two shield theory intensifies
Of da map
Left side near the entrance with the stairs iirc
Battlefield
Any difference in spear designs?
I don't think so

I checked and they looked the same
Hmm...
Wait but
If the sheilds have spears in them
So its likely that the other side shot the spears
Or maybe the people stuck their spears in their sheilds after the battle
But the spears of same design are in both shields. That does shake the two shield theory
Third group sounds exciting
Umm
The group inside the gate with spears
And the two groups outside battling each other
Light, darkness and...?
Hollup.
Hollip, hollup.
How exactly the spears look?
Diamond shaoed, or, like javelins of sorts (arrow shaped)?
They are spears with two cuts on the sides of the stone part
drops this and leaves
Those spears on the left
Wait
Yall this is a revolutionary discovery
U see the octagon like sheild?
office isnt really lore-related
office is an easter egg
It has a sun like symbol
Yeah
mhm
Wait so
That's smart lol
true
This is definately going in my fanfiction-
what
The spear
speaaarrr
Yeah but there was also a shield on the side of its temple statue
It was the octagon one iirc
Wats the other type of weapon called?
Sword?
Sword, paddle, whatevs
Wait
Look too long for a sword to me
Didn't the valley elders have a similar weapon to the sword?
👀
I'm calling it sword bc I don't know what to call it
Its pretty similar
Chesca u have a screenshot of the valley twins.
No, imma search for google
Yeah that's true
Since I'm on laptop
Similar but definitely not the same thing
Oh no sorry guys they're not the same
Yeah they do look like oars tho
Cricket bats
Or something to play a sport with
Yep
what
Boats ar prominent throughout the story. Main mode of transportation.
yes
Yea
The capes of the spirits are just for decorations
So if there were actually three sides of the battle
To symbolises it's rank/something I forgot the word
Then which one was the elder on?
Prestige
But if ancestors may have created the skids, one may imagine they had that technology of flight as well.
not the sun star symbol
And sun
According
to the
2 shields theory I think
He was diamond then sun according to the theory
But hey, who knows?
Well, the devs know
Well, you can also note that battles tend to be oppurtunistic. Perhaps spears were utilized by other side in the heat of the battle?
Lol yeah they do they're probably having fun seeing us make all those theories
Perhaps
I wonder what they feel if one of us gets it right?
Or maybe they were used later on the krills
But wouldn't the side opposing the krills be at a better place using spears by attacking the krills as they are airborne
Krills didn aling to a side. Both sides hated krills I think. One was simply ready to deal with them in exchange of technolohical advancement.
And if the fight was in between darkness and light alone then the darkness would need something with hands to be able to use the sheilds
OR
WAT IF
THERE WAS A BETRAYAL
Dunno, krills do seem selfloathing
But then they wouldn't exactly need weapons
Krills are probably not even alive they are probably controlled due to their behavior
Wow I knew sky went through the apocalypse but I didn't know it went through war everytime I read the lore discussion here the darker sky gets hur hur
But I still do think there was a betrayal
Lol. I do love the purpose for skidsz that I have deduced. Very bittersweet
Wait
Betrayal
Perhaps
There were two sides
But the group of traitors with the elder
Turned on its own teammates
Which elder?
That's wat im thinking
The wasteland elder
Wasteland Elder I think
Okay, so.
That passed from diamond to sun
The war was between light and dark
The traitors were on the light side
Because of them
They lost the war
And darkness won over wasteland
Got
In the cutscene the elder is shown to e fighting till he falls on knees, before the skid shows up. Seems somewhat protecyive in a way.
Also, if he betrayed the crystals, surely his spirit would reside somewhere else, not by the entrance of vault, seemingly guarding it.
Betrayed
I'm confused lol
The darkness winning the war kind of explains the Wasteland's state right now-
The spears and the diamond shaped shields have the same symbol
DARKNESS HAS NO WEAPONS, but the traitors on the light side did, so thats why
Darkness has no one. Its a fight between thise whi cause darkness, (accidentally) and those who hider the progress to protect from that darkness.
Ohhhhh
ee
Its the industries vs hippies narrative.
I-
Lmao
Imma commit King right now, adios
Lol
Exclude the blowing up part
Aww...
Chesca did u leave?
Oh
Yeah she left I think lol
Welp, gotta check up on my buds in sky. Was nice theorizing.
yes, more people
Bye guys 
for non nefarious purposes but how many pegs does a krill have :0
Bye!
Uhhh
Hmm
I dont have a pic of krill but we did we could count them
If*
And mist saves the day again
what
Mist gonna send a pic
It has more than 10 limbs, I haven't counted them but it looks like it was probably 20 limbs-
spikey shrimps but has good posture
Thank you guys expect some krill art soon 👌🦐
what
On a side note I wonder if they molt
Ok that be creepy and fun
Though I am pretty sure that krill are some sort of machine? Since they have pre-set routes
U prank krills with ur friend by becoming the krill
Its like those dragon parade things but a krill
Pretty sure they aren't since
- They exist before technology was advance as present Sky (I think)
And they exists long time ago (prophecy mural)
They might not be made by the spirits
Maybe they are husks
But yeah that is a good point
Manifested by corrupted memories
On a completely different note, do you guys have any hypotheses as to what sky kids are and where they come from? I always sort of assumed they were a sort of gulom for the spirits, since they seem to be made of wax or clay.
may I ask who Megan is?
Mega bird
oh
I see
M E G AN
More like fanon

I-
Be afraid of the mantas
is everything is sky dead?
jellies have a preety similar look
After all, Vault is probably a dream--or illusion
Perhaps
Well, the ancestors are dead
The creatures---no I guess
Wait in office chart explaining the realms
Ah, you mean the stages of life ones?
Ok
Okie
ah yeah, maybe that's why they are spirits it's a dream, not completed.?
Plus if it's a dream journey, are the sky kids literally asleep?
But they never wake up?
Or maybe eden is where they wake up, only to fall back asleep again the next night
Ima cook a very WILD THEORY
Wat if skykids are one a space mission
And they in hyper sleep
They experience everything in dreams
But wake up
Or maybe, vault is an archive right?
And thats where orbit is
What if, the elder let's us live their memories?
Oooo
So they make us fall asleep, and we experince the knowladge they have to give to us?
Since vault is about,, knowladge right?
Hm
ah wait
So, the elder is slowly dying
So they are slowly losing their memories?
Possibly
The archives aren't corrupted, just hidden---but as time passes by, an entrance was revealed
alright time to annoy my best friend with this lore knowladge
Mabey the archives are on power saver mode
What
Also, the elders aren't dead nor alive---just on limbo
well, tired then?
I mean
' Ready to give their know-ladge to the next generation ,
My english today saying no
what
Vault could be the last of their power, when they run out the spirits disappear
Well not disappear like-- kinda giving up slowly
Ok isle is fine
idk, the spirits don't seem to really be there
Valley and Isle is kindaaa fine----well, they both have little dark plants but Valley's building are quite destroyed
Perhaps the spirits are trapped there
Isle is like, the farthest realm to eden
And we have to relieve their memories to let them rest in peace
So maybe cause of that
Prairie is a village, a ghost village
yep
ghost town
Oooooo
Basically everything fell apart
yes
forest is like an industrial site?
@worn flint we did discuss of how wasteland could have been a city
Oh and in canon doc
I have something about wasteland
But darkness took over
Wait but what if the war in wasteland
If you guys wanna hear,
GW and Valley WERE connected
Wasn't between light and darkness
2 SHIELDS THEORY
But between light and light
Well, did Valley need diamonds?
And darkness originated from the conflict
Uhh
Okay guys....
Darkness existed
Two shield theory
Before the war
WHO HAS THE 2 SHIELD THEORY DOCCC
No I mean like darkness as in the krills sorry
Which side you think GW elder belonged to? Sun or crystal?
feeling like the sunburst side was vault and gw
and
diamond side was foret and valley while prairie and isle remained neutral says i in this two shields theory
Basically , , In my theory and my friend's theory. Wasteland was a forest who burnt down because of the factories
Idk by the one I read people were fighting over a diamond thing
It was a forest with a shore. (ship wreck part)
Idk, if vault has the last of the power source, and the spirits are projections, living memories, it would make sense that they would start to fade as vault loses power
Prophet of vitamin c gibe me infinite vitamin sea
Sun maybe
sorry I started typing that a while ago, but I didn't get a chance to send it and it seems the conversation moved on lol
Has the diamond symbol
GW stated by the theory, was with the diamonds---but then went to the sun
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@wide path thats a cool theory
Yeah , GW was a forest who got burnt down? Or a city who got over toxic by the factory
Thank you C:
Hmm so the third party theory?
Aren't there a lot of boats in Wasteland?
Idk about the third part theory anymore
Hmm wait
guys guys have tou notice that there’s a giant anchor in forgotten ark
There are only two types of weapons tho? Why carry a shield and no weapon, Snow?
The forest
So it might have been an ocean, ooo a floating city
Explains the big circular holes
Ah yeah an Island city
In the clouds
Factories would be perfect for it, since the toxic water can be spilled to the ocen
Well, GW is underneath
but then boom krills and crabs, corrupted city and everything falling apart?
This could be a pollution narrative for sure
But then
feeling like gw and vault were sunburst side and forest and valley was diamond side
crabs evolved to be able to live in the toxic environments
There's a theory of the dark water was from Eden but then was spread to GW by the pipes
WHY IS IT A DESSERT
Crabs are an invasive species
it got burnt to a crisp
It's probably ashes or sand or snow (GOLDEN VALLEEYYYY)
Desert*
I think oil was a thing before the eye. Deterioration just made it spill.
Wasteland and eden doesn't get connected tho, like there should be toxic in vault too if there was eden water in gw
feel like it's ashes
There's no pipes in Vault- Is there?
Many oceans become deserts once the water gets moved
Ashes and sand since there is a shore at wasteland.
same with lakes
Nope, there isn't
Wasteland and eden doesn't get connected tho, like there should be toxic in vault too if there was eden water in gw
@worn flint Vault is said to be a dream state
Wait so the diamond side wanted to industrialize diamonds and the sunburst side wanted light to be free right?
@worn flint Yea and we talked if the entire vault is a dream and the end part is the true vault
Yes
Yes, I know.
Exactly, It feels like waste-land was an Island city with trees who burnt down
for a factory
oh, the end could just be a power plant blowing up
How does the graveyard come into forest theory?
Well, manta bones?
No idea
The darkness could just be abstract polution
And why is there a war?
Light creature abuse
@worn flint those bones are too big to mantas
Fish then?
So there's a war because the diamond side wanted to make a lot of power diamonds
Be of*
Yeah that
Since darkstone MIGHT be made from light creatures and darkness
And the sunburst side wanted light to be free
The war of diamond side and the ones who want gw not to get burnt.




