lore-discussion-spoilers

[queen locust]

Sneep is good

[lone wigeon]

DePpReSsEd

[queen locust]

Sneep is a free sanity pill

[lone wigeon]

Jellyfish
Go hang out with sanctuary jellyfish dood

[queen locust]

Or Sanc dad he floofy

[lone wigeon]

Yeet is cool

You know what

I want to see you hanging out with these worms

[queen locust]

I kinda doubt your cute critters of darkness are krill hatchlings tho

[lone wigeon]

I want to see why do u love them and how are you doing it

Hm... what if eggs in forest Have something to do with them XD

[queen locust]

Is this from that one comic-

I've actually been told that those are just literal Easter Eggs though

[lone wigeon]

Yeah, ik

But why not XD
Giant fish’s eggs

[queen locust]

If it was a fish egg it probably would have been transparent

[lone wigeon]

Maybe these ‚bunnies’ are dark version of fluffy fish. They both seem fluffy and my sister touched a fish once- it took her whole flight energy

[queen locust]

Ah well- Sky- suspension of disbelief-

Fluffy fish?

[lone wigeon]

That one in the forest cave or when u go to gw from valley

That big thingy

Feesh

I love you

[bitter shale]

i found a better quality of this picture and by gods i love them even more

[queen locust]

ah crap it's a school night I gotta sleep

Night guys keep loring

[lone wigeon]

Hf, i’ll miss u

[ornate olive]

Do we even know if those things are sentient

[bitter shale]

what thing

[ornate olive]

The fire trial projectile

[lone wigeon]

Whats sentient

English is not my first language

Help XD

[ornate olive]

Essentially I'm just asking if they're alive

[short owl]

Sentient refers to thinking.

[lone wigeon]

What

Boop, what

[short owl]

Boop, is this your first exposure to the valley twins have prosthetics theory?

[lone wigeon]

Who th is kakashi XD

[short owl]

Blind, Spiky hair twin

[lone wigeon]

Blind??!

Where

I

Where XD

[short owl]

In my defence, you didn't provide an alternative name indicator

[lone wigeon]

I want to see too

They Have both tho...

cough clothes

[short owl]

I mean yeah but the idea of them wearing prosthetic arms is fun

[lone wigeon]

Also, its not official desing, is it? They look different in game

I mean yeah but the idea of them wearing prosthetic arms is fun
@short owl considering they were into sports, not so much

[short owl]

Ye. And in the game their arms are suspiciously lumpy

[lone wigeon]

That... i dont thing theyre missing an arm, but it would be interesting..

[short owl]

It still works if they are into sports

[lone wigeon]

They literally one half of each other what
This

What happend to them

Maybe they were once one, but something happend and they got separeted and thus theyre twins

But I dont know, seems unrealistic with no enough proof
Its still very interesting

[short owl]

Or maybe Megan is a pain and gave them one arm, so Teth made them arms so they could like hold two things at once

[lone wigeon]

Whos megan

[short owl]

DOWN WITH THE MEGABIRD!

[lone wigeon]

Who dat

Nope XD

[civic wave]

Only pic i have of them

[short owl]

A godlike character in the concepts who is seen in the end credits

[lone wigeon]

Oh? I Have never seen any character in credits, damn...
I really need to read something...

Im playing since the rythym and im still totally Lost in lore XD

Hm....

[civic wave]

[short owl]

Godlike in that they are like... The one who picks up dead souls and spits them out to make new people

[lone wigeon]

It is pretty godlike

[short owl]

And I like making them evil, malicious, or at least severely messed up

[lone wigeon]

Cant judge, didnt read the lore

But damn boi

Messed up godlike creature... hm...

[civic wave]

I remember people talking about know elements in the forgotten ark shops then today i remember we have these emojis

Same colour and symbols representing this elements

[lone wigeon]

Oooooh

[bitter shale]

this is the only pic i got from them, i will take another one when i goes eden next time

and yea i thought the light will gone when i take a picture of it

WAIT WHY IS MY PICTURE GOT THE LIGHT WHILE YOURS ISNT

[civic wave]

@bitter shale different angles

[bitter shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741172478621122590/777532139973247006/SKY_20201115_205336_.jpg

Float

Okay but why they float-

They are tired for hugs, time to social distancing

[civic wave]

Because lighting the world (what we do) creates global warming so we use fresher clothes

Xd

[livid valley]

We're heating the world

[bitter shale]

thats-

[livid valley]

Wow

[bitter shale]

okay thats a good theory

[livid valley]

So

We're just left to find out

Or still tryin to save the world?

[undone harbor]

Idk we are still getting involved in ascended candle business

You gimme star I give you candle

[civic wave]

Well more pants extend life time

[undone harbor]

So if our job isn’t saving the Eden elder we are doing the job of throwing stars back to orbit

Well
Stone statues
We have to clean that up smh

[livid valley]

Love being a janitor

[bitter shale]

likely our job is to be the lead of rebirth cycle

first generation is to stop the corrupted king, second generation is... idk lmao. third generation, that is us, is to resume the CoL job as the Rebirth Cycle leader

[civic wave]

My guess the other day was that the tru ascension is resched once one becomes a statue and another child comes a lights u up so we as olayer never really see the end of the ascension

[undone harbor]

If we think like the characters in the game
The scrapped lore isn’t scrapped,but because it was finished so the lore isn’t there anymore,instead replaced by a new one

[livid valley]

first failed second success?

[bitter shale]

WAIT WE ARE THE FOURTH

not the thrid

third

[civic wave]

Like you go eden you give ur light to past childs and they asend u become a child of light that will power another child and that child will put u bsck in your statue so u can finish the ascension

[undone harbor]

Megan does love DIY tho-

[bitter shale]

lmao

[undone harbor]

Ok anyone has thoughts on how to glitch to the final cutscene

Or the credits cutscene

[livid valley]

Upgrade upgrade!

[bitter shale]

you can do that?

[civic wave]

U sit an wait(?

[undone harbor]

Or how to stop the flow and fly freely in ascension without getting sucked into that ball of light

[civic wave]

Imposible i will guess

Never tried rocket in orbit myself tho

[undone harbor]

Yeah
But I saw someone on Twitter did that not getting sucked

[livid valley]

hm

[undone harbor]

That requires table experience though

[livid valley]

bug then

[undone harbor]

Which I c l e a r l y don’t have

[civic wave]

Ooh in the flying part? I don't think u can use table or friend things maybe table spell not sure

Do u guys child think cosmetics are cannon? Or just the moth cosmetics is the cannon

[undone harbor]

Also can we get the devs to remove the teleportation walls in ascension-

If we fly too high,we get teleport back

If we walk a bit out of bounds we get teleport back

[civic wave]

#wishlist-and-ideas-archived

[undone harbor]

Ah,really wanted to see things outside but ok

Wanna ask you guys first because you guys w i s e

[livid valley]

lmao

[civic wave]

I say the #questions-and-help are the knowledge kids xd here imagination
Anything coud be

[undone harbor]

But the teleport walls are far from the place we supposed to fly in

At least better than gen chat

Nah,the brain cells in gen chat is shared

[gentle sparrow]

[undone harbor]

While the ones here are individually

[lone wigeon]

I will always love you

Anyways, whats with the generations? Is it mentioned in the lore?

Ah...

So how do we know which generation are we

Ah, by ascending

Ah..

Ok, I think i kinda understand

Jeez, i need to find out who is the king

[haughty talon]

With each batch what are they try to get done though? Kill the king? Fix the fracture?

Reducing the corruption ever so slightly every time? 🤔

[livid valley]

hm

[mild elm]

Wow hi there

İm clueless abt lore

[livid valley]

İm clueless abt lore
@mild elm new to lore?

[mild elm]

Yes

[livid valley]

nice imma let you read the lore moff doc to get you started

to let you know a little

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
creadit to bricky

[mild elm]

So youre a achiver, name every achievement even tho its not in your achievements @livid valley

Thanks btw

[livid valley]

too lazy

[mild elm]

Can i name my discord account Resh (ר)?

Ohh thanks but i dont think ill

Wow eden theory looks cool

Do you know something abt that diamond in the end of eden?

Like the thing casts stones

Ooh so its the big factor of realms to fall apart? İ read that in the link if im right

[bitter shale]

likw nuclear energy source

[mild elm]

Nuckear enegry is getting smaller as time passes tho

But you have a point that its casting stones like nuclear atom casting electrons

Since im newbie idk :-P

İf its using energy then theres something that powers it

İ dont really know english terms tbh 😂

İts nice to discuss wish theres more ppl ;-;

[livid valley]

Right word dw

This channel can get alive at times just gotta wait

[mild elm]

Did you search it up @livid valley

[livid valley]

Nah I watched alot of stuff like this

[mild elm]

Haha dw red diamond maybe using the destruction energy when krills or red crystals hits player

Or the prince

İll read the lore boop shared brb

[livid valley]

Aite also you meant theory ig

PFT

Also is it the third generation defeated the corruption if so what happend of the leftovers of the first and second one did it just turn into dust after a long period of time

[mild elm]

Seems like you said that those Sculptures are 1st and 2nd generation but some are behind the wall that seems really Opposite or just in the past they fight more Different

Hmm i think theyre lagging just kidding

Yes because theres only 60 and i dont think cycle ends in that much

There sure is Victor's but what did they do...

[livid valley]

Third failed really badly if they are assigned to stop the diamond

[mild elm]

Tbh your theory is make sense since we manage to rescue those 60 kids and then reborn not like others

Yes the diamond still there lol

We need sword smh

Hmmm maybe the diamond using kids soul or theyre traped in diamond idk

İ wonder what makes the sky kid we use reborn

[livid valley]

Death room sure is weird

[solar relic]

it's november and i finally died, i still think the death room is in the eden diamond ngl although the diamond is cracked. unless it's something akin to the elder cutscene locations - taking place outside of space and time?

[mild elm]

But the question is why do we go there or what makes us go there, yes its the reason but im asking why and how we got there when we die

[undone harbor]

The hugging light boi level is above the rock rain level
So we might be on top of the diamond or in a high place in the diamond

[mild elm]

İs there a stair to diamond? Like we just go trough diamond like were in creative mod?

[solar relic]

maybe, maybe not

[mild elm]

Lmao sorry for the last im living in oast nvm me

[undone harbor]

We are spirits by the time we meet the boi we need to hug so

[solar relic]

yeah the last thing we see would probably be the diamond provided we keep moving forward towards it

[undone harbor]

Is there any lore to the sharp crescent moon in Eden's sky?

[mild elm]

Or we just fall to the dark room like in cutscene because we lost the light

Maybe light what makes us go trough places and make us fly

Yes lately i saw that too@undone harbor

Everytime theres moon

[solar relic]

i haven't seen any theories on the moon in stormlock but i guess that would mean that there are potentially more planets out there besides the one sky is on?

[livid valley]

Gw is full moon everytime

[solar relic]

yeah

there's like 2 planets

and a bunch of meteorites(?)

[undone harbor]

Maybe if there is the presence of a moon in the sky,that place is conquered by darkness?

But that doesn't make sense for vault

UHHH-

Maybe the darkness both physically and mentally???

[mild elm]

İn vault the light changes outside of the elder room cube

[livid valley]

Imagine Megan creating other planets to do the same stuff but it always diffrent

[undone harbor]

I don't think we count that light,just the light in cutscene

[solar relic]

megan but scrapping wip after wip

[mild elm]

?

[livid valley]

Something in that sentence is not allowed here Ig

[mild elm]

Hit from back?

Yes its banning sorry guys ;-;

Fire creature

[livid valley]

Oop

[mild elm]

İts abt creatures

And why its not mental

They can hit us from back

But we d13

[undone harbor]

???

[mild elm]

Why we die if we dont see

[undone harbor]

I-
I can't process this-

[mild elm]

No in fire trail

They hit us from back in maze

So pointless ik ;-;

[undone harbor]

No one gets in the vibing

[livid valley]

No one will ever stop vibin

[mild elm]

İ saw that they actually changes their route when they see us or light also deep call attracts their attention

Just imo

[undone harbor]

Pspspspspsp

Come to me creatures

[livid valley]

Plot twist they ran away from you

[undone harbor]

Imagine prophet of fire went pspspspsp come here my children

Chase your dreams
e v o l v e

[livid valley]

If you deep call you'll actually see there's a looooot of them. Their routes are probably intersecting. Making an illusion of unpredictability.

In reality, they just go around and around
Wondered if anyone tried to count every single of em oof it will be a very tough job

[mild elm]

https://images.app.goo.gl/Egxujk1xZfJfrbX87

[undone harbor]

It seems like a job for me-

[mild elm]

Wow

[undone harbor]

Aww cute!

https://images.app.goo.gl/Egxujk1xZfJfrbX87
@mild elm THIS-

[mild elm]

İk and theres the king and the isle elder names in it

Does king and isle elder related?

[undone harbor]

Maybe not

[mild elm]

Nvm theres actually other elder names

[lethal stump]

technically the elders don’t have names, aside from « Elder of the [Realm] »

[livid valley]

What did I just see

[undone harbor]

Anyone want to name their own elders come to that link

Is there a way to shorten the name of elders from (realm) elder without using fanon name?

[lethal stump]

well the problem arises with Vault/Valley both having V first letters

[mild elm]

heres the king his Holiness

Yes

[lethal stump]

although it could go
EoI
EoP
EoF
& EoT (elder of triumph)
EoW
EoV (elder of vault)

[mild elm]

These are hair tho-

[lethal stump]

im referring to their elders

[dapper copper]

GUYS LISTEN

[lethal stump]

no need to yell, friend

[dapper copper]

sorry, im'm super excited

if.... sky was released on pc...maybe...

the Game Theorist would make theories about sky!

[undone harbor]

...UH

THE LORE GANG WOULD EXPLPDE???

[lethal stump]

sky on PC isn’t expected soon, theyre still trying to get sky on switch

[dapper copper]

what we know that (in my opnon) pewdiepie will play sky aster pc release for 70%

*after

[lethal stump]

this sounds like a bunch of almost unfounded assumptions, how is this lore ?

[dapper copper]

more thories by matpat

that's what i meant

[short owl]

Concern - do these theorists respect the no beta content, or would I already know why Brick is back to eating popcorn?

[lethal stump]

[livid valley]

Oh my..

[lethal stump]

EHEHEHEHEHE

[livid valley]

The popcorn

[undone harbor]

Well,the more the merrier

[short owl]

Boop, I kinda like those nicknames, but I wish they were a little less gendered.

I mean they're very good nicknames

anyone who's seen the elders would likely be able to figure out who you were talking about

[lethal stump]

originally they did have job titles
the ones i know are

Isle: ferryman
Prairie: ?
Forest: Shaman(?)
Valley: iirc they were priests at one point
Wasteland: Warrior
Vault: Shaman(?)

and then eden elder was Prince/King

[bitter shale]

valley was a priestess

[cursive geyser]

Isn’t forest like a blacksmith right?

[bitter shale]

got changed into sport duo

forest elder is minecraft steve

[lethal stump]

these titles are from old concepts too, they had different professions back then

[livid valley]

Twins were priests? Wow coolest priests ever ig

[cursive geyser]

ooooo okay

[bitter shale]

valley was originally only have one elder and its a priestess

boatman

[lethal stump]

could be

Ferryman
Farmer
Blacksmith
I like to equate the twins with Artemis and Apollo
Warrior
Scholar/Priest

[bitter shale]

yes artemis and apollo duo

i approve

sport duo would do tbh

uhh racer twins?

[lethal stump]

having individual names for the twins would be helpful tho

[bitter shale]

idk-

[lethal stump]

cause it can be annoying to tell between each twin

[bitter shale]

Samuel and Mekhane

[lethal stump]

well we’re trying to distance from those names

something more recognizable

[short owl]

Yeah but I kinda llike the alternative culture where we just kinda go with whatever nickname we feel describes their hair

[bitter shale]

look just call them Sah and Mekh

lmao

[short owl]

Snatcher and swiper?

[bitter shale]

asparagus and dora

[short owl]

snatcher
swiper

[bitter shale]

wait, asparagus and mushroom

a vegetable

[lethal stump]

not everyone splits the name the same
like i do Sam and Ekh

[willow sparrow]

I do samek and h

[bitter shale]

this is asparagus

lamooosoaooaoa

[opaque mirage]

anime and umbrella twins

[bitter shale]

b r u h

anime and cartoon lads

[opaque mirage]

ye ye

[neat fractal]

Anime is just Japanese cartoon

Anyway, what lore are y'all talking about?

[opaque mirage]

what elders supposed to be represented

[lethal stump]

we’re just discussing possible epithets for the elders

[bitter shale]

why dont call them with concept name-

[opaque mirage]

granpa
sleepy
mama
anime and umbrella
😳
mama v2

[bitter shale]

:<

[lethal stump]

what’s with the blushy face ?

[neat fractal]

Why is wasteland an emoji lmao

[opaque mirage]

wl elder is cool

love him

[bitter shale]

mmmm im still gonna use concept names for my Sky AU

Vault looks like an Auntie for me

GW elder is an emoji-

[opaque mirage]

jkjk i call wasteland soldier

that refers to a specific game character i used to play ye

[bitter shale]

lets just call valley twins as chaotic duo

[lethal stump]

honestly i’ve been trying to make names for them in sky conlang but i’ve been struggling making the basics of the language

[bitter shale]

that would sum up them good

[opaque mirage]

grandpa
sleepy
mama
anime and umbrella
soldier
mama v2

oh wow choosing favorites 😔

[bitter shale]

both twins are cool >:T

[opaque mirage]

umbrella deserves lovE

[neat fractal]

But one is more popular

[bitter shale]

shhh i still love them both-

[opaque mirage]

i mean yeah the hair doesn't look that cool but he's loveable >:3

[bitter shale]

i believe in dora hair supremacy

[opaque mirage]

yes.

[bitter shale]

[short owl]

Boop, I tookmost of your orriginal name suggestions and would like to suggest this:
boat guide
Potter
Diamond Smith ("Smith" for short)
Sports twins (this name was always perfect)
Warrior
librarian
For everything but the last one, I just modified the ending from man/lady.

[willow sparrow]

I honestly feel like twin is overrated

[bitter shale]

SMITH-

okay thats just funny for me im sorry-

[opaque mirage]

:0

[bitter shale]

Ayin, you are a wizard

bass boosted harry potter theme

[opaque mirage]

honestly i feel like sleepy boi and vault mama is the most polite out of all

[bitter shale]

POTTER

labsisbe

[short owl]

oh I def think "Smith" is a funny and perfect name for Teth.

[bitter shale]

Teth Smith

noice

Ayin Potter-

the lost sibling of Harry Potter

[opaque mirage]

kinda choncc tho

[bitter shale]

yes

[opaque mirage]

but but

[bitter shale]

but im more see Ayin as Hagrid-

okay i will stop-

[opaque mirage]

forest mama has floating powers too-

[tough path]

Wait so you’re telling rhythm qg and think are actually the bird-

[bitter shale]

owl

i cant see picture im so sad-

[tough path]

Its the rhythm ending cutscene

[bitter shale]

oo

maybe the reason they choose Rhythm as the QG is because of free ride-

oh yea

kiss actor

[tough path]

blowkiss is on the boat tho...

[bitter shale]

also what is that chonk guy bring on their hands?

[tough path]

scroll?

[bitter shale]

its on boat, the blowkiss guy

i mean iirc they are the only one who have sharp beak mask in rhythm gang

[tough path]

but then where are rhythm qg and think-

[bitter shale]

also i have question, is that scene appeared after the last trial or-?

the most front

uh

[tough path]

its from the season of rhythm

not prophecy

[bitter shale]

he is literally on the front of the pic

i know

idk the system of rhythm lmao

oh

[tough path]

oh wait no thats the welcome spirit

[bitter shale]

youw ere talking about qg

thought you were talking about blowkiss lad

i mean the bird does have the horn thingy sooo

[tough path]

man i wish

[bitter shale]

where is he now i want to steal his hair

[tough path]

snatch his wig

[bitter shale]

i wish we actually can do that lmao-

anyway for prophecy, do you think we will get another cutscene after this?

or the murals are actually the last?

okay i failed english brr

[tough path]

here we got all the rhythm troupe members minus questgiver

the other one with owl hair is also missing

[opaque mirage]

sir blowkiss is gucci

[bitter shale]

what is that chonk guy give and will he give us the scroll

[tough path]

indeed

[opaque mirage]

is that a music sheet?

[bitter shale]

ALSO IS BLOWKISS GUY HOLD A CALALILY FLOWER-

[tough path]

questgiver isnt in the picture

But here, he has his own official art

[bitter shale]

why you didnt give us calalily flower aoaoaoaoaooaoa

awww they looks so cute-

their eyes saying 'you will never get my hair haahahah'

[opaque mirage]

smol

[bitter shale]

piano thing you strecth? uhhh idk the name but its kinda diffetent

different

[tough path]

the one to his right is think

they have the same hair as questgiver

[opaque mirage]

its called squeezebox!

confusing to play, can get broke very easy

[bitter shale]

ACCORDION

lmaoo

[opaque mirage]

there's one that's called squeezebox too 😔

[bitter shale]

aye-

[tough path]

we’re getting kinda off track here-

Thinking spirit and Dance spirit

[neat fractal]

Does rythm season have any lore behind it like ark and prophecy?
Or are only those 2 seasons have lore and the rest are just for fun?

[pastel brook]

The fates have spoken

[tough path]

and why are they both missing in the ending cutscene

[willow sparrow]

THIS IS TOO MUCH FOR ME

[opaque mirage]

i mean, them having children is quite possible

look at the stance at the valley

they got a child

i think, hopefully

yeah

bur

but

i think

qg looks a bit too young to have a child

yknow,,, unless

ye

or

they could be siblings

?

could technically be true

yeah

or maybe they ran out of hairstyles and just copy him?

their 'idol'

aspired to be a quest giver

[molten shell]

Is there a document or anything where all canon lore has been compiled? Figured it would make the most sense to ask here.

Also I like the admiration thought.

Hah

[tough path]

also dancing spirit has the same mask

[molten shell]

I found it, I think. Thank you!

Hah, I keep forgetting pins exist.

[opaque mirage]

or maybe the rhythm spirits supposed to be a big family?

i mean

they all do have bird based on them

[tough path]

im still wondering if the two transformed into it

[neat fractal]

Does rythm season have any lore behind it like ark and prophecy?
Or are only those 2 seasons have lore and the rest are just for fun?
👉👈

[pastel brook]

i have seen your future, @neat fractal, and... well, i won't spoil the surprise

[opaque mirage]

[neat fractal]

Skybot please-

[opaque mirage]

his hair looks edible

aren't all the hairs look edible

[lethal stump]

i think the main « lore » behind rhythm is the common belief that the QG can turn into the bird we see in the final cutscene

which would certainly have important meaning in the overall world of sky

[tough path]

bruh that’s exactly hat i was trying to bring up qwq

[opaque mirage]

if fires can turn into butterfly, why not spirits

boom

bird

[neat fractal]

And I assume other seasons (gratitude, belonging, sanctuary) are also mostly fun and have barely any lore?

[lethal stump]

sanctuary does have lore !

it shows us more about mantas

[neat fractal]

Oh I didn't realize that

And I was about to point out that belonging also shows that spirits can have children and they can age too

[opaque mirage]

if you think of it, we relive spirits using fire and as we see the butterflies forms from basic fire.
basically if the fire is implanted in a spirit, they will get more of the ability to morph into animals too?

[lethal stump]

all the seasons show us more about spirits, even if there’s no big overarching lore

[opaque mirage]

i just want pants man

[neat fractal]

Thank you Brick!

Although i still dunno about gratitude

[opaque mirage]

feed him seeb

[tough path]

when would that happen?

he walked into the valley gate, and the next thing is the cutscene

[opaque mirage]

i mean

we didnt see them as a physical form in the realms

only spirits

imagine if they're actually reliving

what will happen to the world of sky then?

hmmm

maybe normal spirits are just normal beings?

wait that's non logical

nvm nvm~

[neat fractal]

I think they just chill in orbit until we open them in the constellation and they come down

[tough path]

idk about them getting reincarnated... i mean, theyre still there

[opaque mirage]

chilling in orbit sounds boring for a reason

nothing but emptiness of space and the same star rotations

[tough path]

at least they have each other~

[opaque mirage]

true true

but they wont have anything to do then

only them

nothing else

but familiar faces.

[neat fractal]

I mean, who knows? Maybe they're in a different part of orbit we don't see?

[opaque mirage]

true

[neat fractal]

Space is vast, plus heaven? Technically?

[tough path]

I wish rhythm got a seasonal landmark

[neat fractal]

I'm ranting nonsense don't mind me

[opaque mirage]

or maybe they visiting realms as an invisible ghost!

they have to move somehow

imagine being trapped in the same lonely space for thousands of years

maybe they just watching the kids and moths alike in the orbit?

[tough path]

i wonder how they died

[opaque mirage]

i got a feeling like it's from physical accidents

they do live at some hazardous places if you look at their surroundings

[tough path]

i have a headcanon that rhythm drowned in the valley ice rink thanks to a fanfic

[opaque mirage]

the fish call seemed to have a fish crashed into his house

bird call maybe fell from a high place

[neat fractal]

i have a headcanon that rhythm drowned in the valley ice rink thanks to a fanfic
@tough path dm?

[opaque mirage]

she doesn't have wings does she?

so logical

ye true

or got lost

and die from hunger

the sleeping lumberjack seems like his roof fell

or walls

or maybe suffocated in the room?

laughing maybe from the bell falling on her

it does lead to hints tho

where they do be close to them

but yeah do keep an eye where they're standing, their locations

yeah

[neat fractal]

I smell delicious angst
And I will gladly keep reading

[opaque mirage]

stealthy probs got krilled

[tough path]

heck yes

[opaque mirage]

i have no clue on how the valley spirits die

[neat fractal]

Y'know the spirit in the cry spirit memory with the plant?
I think he had a bit of the olant inside him, and the darkness from the inside is what makes the plant grow and eventually...yeah

[tough path]

i had the same thought

[neat fractal]

Hands on hips stance could have fallen from a high place

[tough path]

Oh fricc

[opaque mirage]

what about vault?

[neat fractal]

Oooh like they laid behind the graves and just wait silently for the inevitable

[opaque mirage]

i think the levitating guy did something wrong

rip they became a squished pancake

yeah true

[neat fractal]

Vault is a mysterious place
Is the space paets actually real? Like from solid wall and stuff to a night sky/ dream look

[opaque mirage]

as i say, levitation guy got squish

[tough path]

what about prairie

[opaque mirage]

he did smth wrong i can feel it

[tough path]

It seems really peaceful

[opaque mirage]

yawning guy's roof fell

laughing's bell thing fell on her

[neat fractal]

We had to pray to get levitate
Think that was their grave that we had to wait and pray for?

[tough path]

what about butterfly charmer?

[opaque mirage]

maybe the dock worker drowned or something

and yeah we do burn the candles to see the trees to grow while reliving the spirit for the meditate

[tough path]

come get y’all’s butterfly juice!

[neat fractal]

I like the latter since hes a charmer for butterflies-
But then again maybe they're named thay cuz they're good at luring butterflies in?

[opaque mirage]

cronch

butterflies are my favourite juice!

[prime cipher]

buttered flies

Jk that's gross bye

[opaque mirage]

god why are we discussing death

this is sad

[neat fractal]

Oh wait, what do you guys think about the lookout scout's (i forgot the name) death?

[opaque mirage]

fall

[prime cipher]

Damn

[neat fractal]

Makes sense

[opaque mirage]

from high place

even makes more sense since he's very high up

o h

[neat fractal]

Ooh what about hide and seek spirit-

Sad

[prime cipher]

This is making me sad

[opaque mirage]

hide and seek spirit playing hide and seek

but nobody found her

she's too good

[neat fractal]

Oh god-

[prime cipher]

that's dark

The hide and seek one

[neat fractal]

Ok maybe we should brighten things up a bit here

[opaque mirage]

it reminds me of adventure time

[hushed steeple]

Ahh, language @prime cipher! This is a family-friendly server :)

[prime cipher]

Oh sorry

[opaque mirage]

when neptr plays hide and seek but finn and jake never found him for 5 months

yeah

[neat fractal]

But hide and seek is already tall

[opaque mirage]

i link it to hide and seek

[prime cipher]

Wait wait what about the purple cape spirit? I forgot her name

[opaque mirage]

makes sense in a way

o

dismayed hunter

purple cape

[neat fractal]

I forgot which one dismayed hunter is
How did their memory play out?

[opaque mirage]

i dont remember too

[prime cipher]

Well, there was another guy with her I think

[neat fractal]

Is it the stomp/angry emote?

[opaque mirage]

no that's the pouty guy

[prime cipher]

Or aaaaaaa I can't remember

[opaque mirage]

OOOH

IT'S THE HEADACHE

is it

hol on

[prime cipher]

I think so

[neat fractal]

What was the emote agh my memory

[opaque mirage]

yeah it's the headache

[prime cipher]

Yeah that one
What could've possibly be her death?

[opaque mirage]

no clue

[prime cipher]

Damn

[neat fractal]

Pouty porter death?

Wait I just said a bit ago to brighten things up-
Oh well

[opaque mirage]

why did this turn into tragedy

[prime cipher]

Because
Yes

[opaque mirage]

so heccin dark

[fast jasper]

true

[opaque mirage]

i think praying spirit died from broken heart

or just

genuine sadness

[prime cipher]

Yeah

[opaque mirage]

sky is just a murder mystery in disguise as a moth simulator

[prime cipher]

Lmao

[woeful dune]

Not necessarily

Grumpy spirit and cry spirit

Not necessarily forgetting the bad memories

But everyone else

Yes

[opaque mirage]

at least they died peacefully

no

they dont

they lived an happy after life ye a h

gn~

sleep well

[supple sluice]

KFJEJFJDDKKV

Sjgjfj

[lethal stump]

!omgomgdidyouhearthat

frick

[supple sluice]

Oh-

Wait

Nvm-

[lethal stump]

!omgomgdidyouseethat

[supple sluice]

I shudh

[lethal stump]

jeez i can’t remember the command
but the gist is beta content stays in beta channels

[supple sluice]

Okay then-

Imma just go shrivel in a corner

Gotchu

👌

I got excited cuz it gave a pretty big hint to some timing of the lore but yeah-

I won't say

Until it's implemented

[woeful dune]

!omgomghaveyouseenthe

[pastel brook]

Conversations, pics, and videos about the beta are spoilers Please keep them in #beta-discussion or #beta-screenshots-videos.

[woeful dune]

There you go prophet of bricks

[supple sluice]

Mmmm

Sorry guys

[woeful dune]

No it’s alright

We’ve all made the mistake

[supple sluice]

;u;

[sly kestrel]

yes

;_;

[supple sluice]

I think i just assumed i could mention it cuz someone brought up the mural in coff coff coff

[woeful dune]

cough cough cough

[supple sluice]

COUGH COUGH HACK COUGH WHEEZE

[sly kestrel]

hey there
Back up 6 feet 😷🤚

[supple sluice]

Oh heck sorry

backs up

[short owl]

hey professional? What should I be calling you? Also great icon for that 6 ft message

[mild elm]

What happened here lmao

[keen karma]

What do u think the ending murals in Cave of Prophecy mean? I’m stumped...

[sly kestrel]

It’s a story

[earnest vapor]

Dang this chat has been dead for an hour

[proven mountain]

This is my favorite channel.

[primal verge]

I delete my messages bcuz i discovered its a beta content...

I can only say

The season of prophecy is not over yet..
We have more lore discoveries VERY soon

P. S. Freaking out of excitement

[sacred rapids]

qhat

I guess the prophecies in "cave of prophecies" will be more than the one prophecy

[pastel brook]

The prophecy foretells that @sacred rapids... ||Will actually have a very good day today||

[queen locust]

Did I just barely miss a beta spoiler dump

[short owl]

Not over?!

[queen locust]

please be over

[tough path]

oh? now im excited

[queen locust]

I scrolled up and I probably should not have- those are all hecking gruesome d e a t hs-

[hushed steeple]

How do spirits even die...I how...

[steady pollen]

well i mean
they’re dead since they’re spirits

but i have some ideas on how some died

[hushed steeple]

COULDNT THEY JUST BE REBORNED?!!

[steady pollen]

no

spirits are different from skykids

[hushed steeple]

but weren't they born as sky kids...

[steady pollen]

well i mean

no

they’re way more human

but smaller than elders—

they have “emotions” that stayed in their memories, skykids don’t have any of them until they relive that spirits memories

plus some spirits are capeless while skykids are always caped

then again everyone has a different point of view on them so

this channel is theories galore that can be so so close to the canon story, but some that are off but were made for fun

[short owl]

Do we know spirits can't become skids?

[kind bobcat]

Do we know spirits can't become skids?
Well, the skids cant grow up to be elders, so i'm pretty sure ancestors cant become skykids and skykids cant grow up to become ancestors.

[hybrid void]

beta spoilerd should be kept in #beta-discussion liliann!

spoilers*

[feral radish]

Ok

[kind bobcat]

oh no

[short owl]

Goober, that presumes Megan can't skidafy an ancestor or transform a skid into an ancestor

Neither party can independantly complete the transformation

But perhaps neither has t9

*to

[queen locust]

Are Ancestors and Skykids even biologically similar enough for that, I wonder?

Since we wear their hair and clothes and the same masks, it's a maybe- but there's a chance of Skykids being simple constructs that are merely made in an Ancestor's image

idk there's my two-cents-

idk there's my two-cents-

[willow shoal]

👀

[unborn orchid]

So in the vault

The cutscene

[livid valley]

Which cutscene

[unborn orchid]

Right, um, here:
We see all the elders doing whatever floats their boat right, whenever light shines on their constellation.

Now we know the significance of power diamonds, and each elder has a kind of - diamond that they use.
Even first and second elders have diamonds on their staff and jar respectively.

Now King:

King is seen as if consuming an orb

And ancestor spirits leave a little orb of darkness when we use a candle to relive their memories

I've no idea if these things are connected, but I just noticed that, so anyone got thoughts?

[queen locust]

In the original Bible story of the Garden of Eden, the fruit is symbolic of Original Sin- and idk so far that was how I've been interpreting that specific mural- the King swallowing the fruit of sin

[feral radish]

👁️ 👁️

[queen locust]

Consider that the fruit came from something called 'the Tree of Knowledge' however

[unborn orchid]

I mean a more sinister sounding:

King is giant right

So that orb is in no port small

Now if ancestors leave little orbs of darkness

And Elders aren't around, but in a whole other space

Did king consume elders

[queen locust]

wait are you suggesting that when we meet them in the cutscenes we're in the King's freaking stomach-

[unborn orchid]

Yes

We know that king plays a great part in the story even though we never actually see him

But what if the elder cutscenes happen from within king himself

[queen locust]

Okay- let's assume that- but how do the orbs of darkness within the Ancestors connect to this?

[unborn orchid]

That's the part that I'm assuming, but, I assume, the elders would leave those orbs behind

You know how when some stars die, they keep existing as fusionless remnants of their past selves

That's why

Because elders, as well as ancestors are apparently stars

And elders being significantly bigger than ancestors, They'd leave larger orbs, and if you mush them all into one big orb, they'd be the size fit for a king if you will

[livid valley]

wait are you suggesting that when we meet them in the cutscenes we're in the King's freaking stomach-
One word : ew

[unborn orchid]

This isn't a foreign concept

Take greek mythology for example: to-be-gods lived in harmony in Kronos' stomach, but everything changed when the Schyte wielding thunderbolt fanatic attacked

[livid valley]

True gotta accept it

Then

[real tendon]

Ooh yeah, this also makes sense because the skykids could be considered a Zeus figure, freeing the elders one after another

[queen locust]

scythe wielding thunderbolt fanatic doesn't quite cut Zeus aakjakjak

[unborn orchid]

scythe wielding thunderbolt fanatic doesn't quite cut Zeus aakjakjak
@queen locust Profanity is not allowed, so we can't discuss his other accomplishments

Ooh yeah, this also makes sense because the skykids could be considered a Zeus figure, freeing the elders one after another
@real tendon plus we love the clouds

[queen locust]

I realize that, don't worry

[real tendon]

And also we’re stupidly powerful (?)

[unborn orchid]

Maybe that's why devs won't give us weapons

Gotta say it would be fun to chase Krills for a change

[rapid juniper]

Well we are OP when using glitches to krills

[unborn orchid]

That's true

ominous krilling noises
Lol yah, 4th wall powers activate!

[rapid juniper]

Lol

[livid valley]

Maybe that's why devs won't give us weapons
Not really jenova did say he Dosent want violence

[supple sluice]

Say.... Uh... Question

If we're freeing the elders...

Or helping them...

What do we help the Valley elders with?

Or the Vault elder?

Cuz... We reassemble the Isle elder, help the Prairie elder gain a fancier cloak (?)
Help Forest elder reassemble a diamond, strengthen the Wasteland elder's spear (?), and... What do we do with the Valley Elder and the Vault elder??

[queen locust]

idk we probably freed the Valley Elders from boredom-

[supple sluice]

Pffff

Give them their sibling rivalry again-

[unborn orchid]

Valey elders are weird

[supple sluice]

And i suppose we help light up thw vault elder's diamond-

But... The Valley twins are the weirdest to me

They're... Almost perfectly fine for some reason

[unborn orchid]

Yeah, Vault seems to be about more then just keeping stuff in, perhaps it connects the realms somehow

[queen locust]

They don't seem to be bothered by much- it could play into their capital being the leisure spot of the Kingdom

The Valley Twins I mean-

[unborn orchid]

I'm with Viridi on this one

[supple sluice]

True....

Maybe they're bored after all gaha

Haha*

[queen locust]

Plus there's like- two of them

It's probably better on them that there was someone else around to be stuck in isolation with

Tis harder on the psyche being alone for a long time

[unborn orchid]

Maybe they had to use the light for something, but were like oh look a thing we can toss, we haven't done this in forever

[supple sluice]

Pffff

Like, restore their spirits

Yeah, that'd make sense if their whole deal is fun

[unborn orchid]

Whole Valey is weird

[supple sluice]

Yeah, imagine having to compete in a race to get to school-

[unborn orchid]

For most of the map the progress is pretty linear

[supple sluice]

Then again maybe the kingdoms weren't meant to be linear?

Idk

[unborn orchid]

Also, it's the only map where you have to rerun if you've missed a thing

[supple sluice]

Oh yeah-

[rapid juniper]

Well yeah all of them

[supple sluice]

You can't return shrine to the ice rink-

[livid valley]

The weirdest for me

Is the mountain

[rapid juniper]

U can

[livid valley]

It looks cut very intentionally clean for that very specific building

[queen locust]

Freaking Twins deciding to be extra

[rose gorge]

it was for the dual aesthetic man

[supple sluice]

Pfff

[livid valley]

Lmao

[queen locust]

Imagine them trying to map out the races and one of them's like 'hey you know what would be COOL'

'what'

[rapid juniper]

Yes

[queen locust]

'if we cut a mountain in HALF'

[supple sluice]

Wait i was wrong!

IMAGINE HAVING TO PARTICIPATE IN A RACE AND THEN GOING TO WAR TO GET TO COLLEGE

[queen locust]

sweet Jesus

[rapid juniper]

Yes

[queen locust]

why does that sound like an allegory for real life

[supple sluice]

No wonder all the spirits in vault are super old-

hermits

Jkjk

[rapid juniper]

Yes

[unborn orchid]

Like

[queen locust]

like- going to college literally feels like war and I thought this realm was for a midlife crisis

[unborn orchid]

Only 5 of them got to the vault lol

5 OF THEM

EACH FROM A SINGLE OF THE OTHER REALMS OH MY GOD

[supple sluice]

To be fair if you had to go through valley and Wasteland to get home and back you'd stay at school too

[queen locust]

depending on how long you last in life though I GUESS it counts as a midlife crisis-

[supple sluice]

.... Wait.... Do those elders show up anywhere else in the memories of others??

[rose gorge]

“back in MY day, we raced down the ridge for the temple gates to open and honor us to get the school”

[unborn orchid]

Perhaps but who paid attention, you think we can figure it out just from their appearance

[queen locust]

The Elders never show up in memories iirc

[supple sluice]

Cuz like- the whale guy is in the lumberjack's memory, the light catcher the lady laughs at is in the sight seer's memory...

[queen locust]

we probably would have noticed the hulking figures that were the Elders

[supple sluice]

Unless if that elder was the vault elder

[rose gorge]

the elders are big boys

[supple sluice]

They're very short

Compared to all the others

[queen locust]

you have a point actually-

[supple sluice]

Grandma vault-

[queen locust]

Vault Mama smol

[unborn orchid]

They meant ancestors prolly

[livid valley]

Gw elder sure is tall tho

[unborn orchid]

Or not

[supple sluice]

Granny vault reads stories to the children, be like Granny vault

[livid valley]

[supple sluice]

Pfff

Man i can't wait to see what season is in vault... Anyway-

[livid valley]

Anyway

[supple sluice]

PaNiC-searches for things to talk about

Oh! How do sky children grow 👀

[livid valley]

[rose gorge]

who’s the tallest elder

[unborn orchid]

My take on them:
Memory Whisperer - Isle of Dawn
Levitating Adept - Valley of Triumph
Polite Scholar - Forest
Meditating Monastic - Praerie
Praying Acolyte - Wasteland

[livid valley]

Three things

Choose one

[unborn orchid]

Oh! How do sky children grow 👀
@supple sluice They drink potions

[supple sluice]

Hm...

[unborn orchid]

ba dum tss

[supple sluice]

Tosndosfjfj true

[queen locust]

Speaking of the Acolyte- why were they keeping BODIES there

[supple sluice]

But... How do they get... huggable

[livid valley]

Hug?

[supple sluice]

Aka adorably round-

[livid valley]

Fat

[supple sluice]

Hm

True

[livid valley]

They eat too much light

[unborn orchid]

Telling it like it is

[queen locust]

No really- why is there a gravesite in Vault

[supple sluice]

Pffff

Sky fell cuz of overcosumption of light-

Jkjk

Uhhh

Yeah i gotta look at the vault spirits again-

[unborn orchid]

Perhaps Acolyte wanted to feel like at home

[livid valley]

Hm

[unborn orchid]

You know, like in wasteland

[queen locust]

she feels at home in a gr a v e s i t e

[rose gorge]

there’s no place like home

[livid valley]

Wasteland Dosent feel like home

[supple sluice]

I-

[queen locust]

Wasteland feels like a literal nightmare

existential or otherwise

[supple sluice]

I still belive wasteland was just a passing area and not a place someone legit lived

Except for soldiers of course

Dkrjfj

[livid valley]

Feels like exactly some apocalypse if it were gonna happen

[queen locust]

Somehow I doubt that- there could have been living spaces for workers in the factories that were there once

[rose gorge]

i mean wasteland is like

big

[supple sluice]

Hmmmm

[rose gorge]

wow im the master of description

[supple sluice]

Oh rush yeah the factory area-

With them pipes

[queen locust]

And it looked like it was a trade route for the merchants aboard the Forgotten Ark

[supple sluice]

Yeah that too

[livid valley]

Main area for industrial stuff?

[queen locust]

I think somewhere in the concepts it said that Valley and Wasteland were once one realm- and that kinda raises a few questions for me because of the distance between each realm- and what we even find crossing that distance

Like somehow it was large enough to house a whale-

[short owl]

Valley is a small realm

[queen locust]

And that's without the storm that takes us to Wasteland in the first place

[unborn orchid]

Fight of two forces

[rose gorge]

so much of valley is covered in c l o u d

[unborn orchid]

Flying's better
Skating's better
300 sky years of war

[livid valley]

sky years?

[short owl]

Hey a thought... Do we have anything in lore that states that it's ancestors who were here before skykids?

[unborn orchid]

Idk how they measure time so

[short owl]

I feel like we do, but if we don't...

[queen locust]

that they're even called Ancestors in the first place should be telling dude

And that they're dead

[short owl]

Yeah but like

So are we

[queen locust]

So are we- several years after the destruction of everything

[short owl]

I'ma share the unlikely thought anyway

[livid valley]

ooo

[short owl]

We are wrong about the order of a lot of things. Murals don't depict ancestors at all. Instead, they depict sky kids! The fallen spikey orbs (stars) were always either ancestors or elders. It was our kind that worshiped a king, and our kind that led. Ancestors joined the society, and even played important roles, but they were never the dominant group

Instead, the ancestors were always stars, always belonging to the skys they had fallen from. This makes our cycle MUCH older than we know, cause our kind would have had to be restoring stars from the very beginning

[rapid juniper]

Wait how you know that

[short owl]

I don't. It's an unlikely theory partially spawned by Brick's BETA LAUGHTER LEAVE SOME POPCORN FOR THE REST OF US BEEP IT!

[sinful anvil]

personally im gonna miss old things if beta goes live

[rapid juniper]

Aok

[queen locust]

So I skimmed through the Canon Lore Doc-

« The elders were elders from the beginning, and children of light will not grow up to be elders. Children of light are of new generation »

A quote from the Japanese livestream

[sinful anvil]

Canon lore doc: nothing is random, everything is there for a reason
sky: includes a literal office telling about concepts pre-game
a tvtroper: hmm the orbit doesnt make sense ... sounds gainaxy innit

[queen locust]

the clincher is where the Ancestors fit in that statement

And I sent that quote assuming that children of light referred to us- skykids

[short owl]

... Hmm... Gon be real weird if the new generation is the winged light

Unless... Unless the children of light aren't out yet

[queen locust]

The winged light are IMPRINTS of the children of the light

[short owl]

The child of light (prince/king/ect) could be a prototype to see how well they could do.

As a starbird, Megan would have time on a scale we may not comprehend.

[queen locust]

“You’ll find imprints of the Children of Light” -talking about winged light (note: later in the same context the say Child of Light singular)

also from the canon lore doc-

Mind you it's not down in the observations

though I kind of agree with you on the Prince being a prototype of sorts

[short owl]

The first one comes down so that any problems can be discovered on a smaller scale and corrected before production. Now we pick up and send back the pieces for analysis and Megan decides how successful the child was. If the test was a pass... A new species could be upon us

[queen locust]

Who's that first one, in your context?

[short owl]

The king/prince? Just the shiny boi who went to the top of the Eden Mountain

[queen locust]

I suppose you can technically count that as a success? Whoever that shiny boi was did manage to somehow make a civilization thrive-

[short owl]

True.
But they also split apart across the land... soo maybe it's a mixed result?

[queen locust]

Megan: ehhhh I can work with this-

[rapid juniper]

Nah megan has left the chat

[west basin]

I hadn’t actually thought about the fact that the little light dude is sitting at the final hallway to the storm until today. Poor thing must have been real tuckered out after their journey. I hope Eden treated them kindly.

[rapid juniper]

Yeah why are they sitting tho

[livid valley]

resting

[rapid juniper]

&

[livid valley]

idk

[rapid juniper]

Aok

[livid valley]

lol

[west basin]

Yeah why are they sitting tho
@rapid juniper They don’t seem to have a cape like we do; the journey through Sky was probably pretty tiring without wings.

[rapid juniper]

Yeah

[short owl]

hey so there was a conversation about how at this point there are a ton of return shrines, "as if the game were saying return return return" ( https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/777052352950829058 ) and I has thought

What if all those return shrines being placed there actually moved the point of no return further into Eden?

[rapid juniper]

We normallluy dont have wings

[short owl]

so that kid, when they got there, wouldn't actually have had the abillity to leave. They'd just have been taking what little shelter they could from the storm outside

[queen locust]

that's so ominous- I like it-

[rapid juniper]

Ooooo

[short owl]

beware the me, I make things sadder

[rapid juniper]

[west basin]

if we’re related to the glowy dude spiritually, i hope they get to feel every hug and hand hold we feel as thanks for what they had to go through

glowy boy love and protection squad RISE UP

[rapid juniper]

It can be like getting krilled adn crabbed

[queen locust]

Wait a sec now that you mentioned those glowy boys

[short owl]

If they feel those things, they probably also feel every rock, every krill, and every pool of mud

[rapid juniper]

Yes and crabbed

[queen locust]

Assuming they were imprints of the Prince, would he have been making that hike back to Eden to fix things himself?

[short owl]

perhaps. The prophecy did show him creating the mountain beacon

[livid valley]

nice

[queen locust]

That's an awful amount of imprints too-

[rapid juniper]

Nice indeed

[queen locust]

All in a row, in the same place

[rapid juniper]

Yes

[west basin]

this old concept for a previous eden does mention “Atonement with the father” if we’re just following the prince’s footsteps, then...

[queen locust]

if we're following concepts is the Prince having daddy issues lmao

[west basin]

AHDHHAHDHAHS ABSOLUTELY

[rapid juniper]

Yes

Sad

[west basin]

poor guy really went through hell and back to try and atone with his dad 😔😔😔 i feel that

(/lh)

[rapid juniper]

Ah im used to that already the daddy issues a game teached me that

[livid valley]

bruh

[west basin]

sky:cotl except you’re a therapist trying to get to eden so you can give mr. prince and his edgy dad some counseling

[livid valley]

good luck with that

[queen locust]

Skid: So Mr. King sir- why must you take out your anger out on your son so much? He's so tiny no wonder the rest of the world was screwed

[rapid juniper]

Yes

lamo krill cut in three big pieces

[livid valley]

just backspace every one time when you enter a emoji

this will join em

[west basin]

oh dude... going with the “following the prince’s footsteps” thing, if we’re really doing that, and if the glowy dude we hug during rebirth is the prince, then he really just got offed by his own dad, didn’t he?

[queen locust]

That's assuming they're different people actually

[west basin]

oh!! true!!!

[queen locust]

alternatively he's the same tiny skid with a big ol' head that finally got off his mech to fix things