lore-discussion-spoilers

[icy spruce]

ye

[rancid phoenix]

In the ending of the trials now, we jsut get a winged light

[icy spruce]

Yep

[rancid phoenix]

no pickup animation

[junior robin]

Yes

[bitter shale]

so from the mural we can see what elders do with their given elements.

here Ayin use earth element to 'fertilize' prairie. makes sense since prairie one was filled with farmers

Teth using water element to... make rain? truthfully im not sure for this one, but since the rain got the same color with the water element im guessing it is the case

The twins, as expected, using Air element for more 'playful' intention. not only to making building floats, they also using it to powered their 'floating board' thing, likely for sport purpose

Now Tsadi... i'm actually quite confused with this one as well. Did they using Fire element as weapon? Seems to be the case since this mural depict so many king-shaped turrets. Why did they even do that? what even those turrets aimed to? What kind of enemy they face that even need those turrets to fight against?

[zealous arch]

Maybe it was just like, war-like over-preparedness? weapons for weapons sake, but it seems like they did need them in the end

[bitter shale]

and then this. this got the same vibe with the spinning mural on office entrance. this seems confirm my theory of the child of light as the main trigger of the reborn cycle

[sage lava]

Is there a possibility of that represents also the king/prince?

[bitter shale]

might be, altho nothing confirmed if the shiny boi is the prince/king

all we know that golden boi is a child of light

likely a CoL before us, but tahts just my assumption

[sage lava]

Its just weird to see everyone close on the mountain Kneeling and Lamed standing

[hushed steeple]

Plottwist. We only get further in the story when sky has no players left

[hollow sparrow]

On my way to do fire trial🙂

[hushed steeple]

Because no skykids are there

😳

[median stone]

Emm as I remembered butter made a doc that tell us that shiny boy in that mural is not us.... That is the Prince/King

[bitter shale]

Maybe it was just like, war-like over-preparedness? weapons for weapons sake, but it seems like they did need them in the end
even so... what kind of enemy they even face? darkness might be the case but building that many turrets suggesting there is some kind of stronger enemy

that, or the king and tsadi just overly paranoid

[zealous arch]

What if the skykid/prince/king we see is stealing the elemental light?

[bitter shale]

i mean... they did doing the trials and succeeded

didnt sounds like stealing to me

[zealous arch]

I was thinking the trials were just a way for the prophets to tell a story to the initiates or whatever

[pastel brook]

I told them this would happen but did they listen??

[bitter shale]

....not a good way to telling a story tbh

before they even get to finished the prologue we already lost our sanity because infinite dying

[zealous arch]

ajoaifjhwo

I mean, we don't really get the elemental light the same way the skykid in the murals do

[bitter shale]

we only got the remnants of the elements

since the elements already claimed a long time ago

all that left are the remnants of it

[sage lava]

Emm as I remembered butter made a doc that tell us that shiny boy in that mural is not us.... That is the Prince/King
@median stone

I just read about that. oMG

[sacred quest]

Now that fire is out, here's a full view of the final mural

[bitter shale]

oh it got me thinking as well

we always got a wl as the gift on each trials... before us, the former CoL already finished all those trials and claimed the elements

and wls are called as imprints

seems like wls are the imprints of former CoL

seems like. its still speculation

[cyan dune]

Oh yeah

[strange adder]

I did the fire trial bit I don’t see the gold bits of the mural?

[bitter shale]

@strange adder go get the brazier

on the floating rocks

[cyan dune]

You have to lit up those pots in the floating rocks to see them

[zealous arch]

What were people's ideas on why they were sending people into the sky?

[strange adder]

Ooh

[zealous arch]

or is that in the doc

[cyan dune]

To ascend

[bitter shale]

to ascend

to get reborn

i really like butter's theory on the making of eden diamonds

fusing 4 elements to build a super diamond... and end in chaos... of course

since 4 elements, while completed each other, they also contradicted each other as well

[strange adder]

Huh... so the gold figure isn’t a sky kid?

[zealous arch]

Right my spitballing was:

1. Kingdom is struggling, they send up a skykid to bring back something to help them
2. Skykid steals / takes the elemental light. The fact that some of the light seems actively guarded makes me think this
   3.That Skykid becomes the first to ascend and becomes prince
3. Kingdom prospers, periodically sends up more people to ascend
4. Before they ascend, they are tasked by the Prophets to relive what the first Skykid did. Maybe to respect(?) them

[strange adder]

To me the gold figure seems exactly like a sky kid after they finish a trial and get to be all glowy

[zealous arch]

Because the light was stolen/taken, it eventually backfires on the people.

[strange adder]

That makes sense

[zealous arch]

also, not sure if this is relevant, but whilst in the mural the "trials" are in the sky, when we do them they're on the ground.

[strange adder]

To me it always seemed like sky kids could just naturant easily wield light as opposed to the elders which seem desperate for it whenever they show up

[zealous arch]

Making me think they're just a reconstruction by the prophets

[strange adder]

And I’m pretty sure it was confirmed that the elders and sky kids are separate species (?)

[uncut pier]

Anyone have clear pictures of the prophecy caves murals before and after they change (i remember them changing in beta but maybe that got taken out i havent done fire trial yet)

I was trying to take some but not only could i not i kept getting interrupted

[hushed steeple]

hello all

[strange adder]

To me the sky kids seem to be portrayed as pretty innocent and the elders more wise/conniving so it’s a new idea to me that the sky kids would have actively stolen something... but that’s just me lol

[median stone]

Yeah it all seem like us coz we are the new descendent that follow our Prince path

I'm totally stick to butter doc

[near moss]

aren't skykids emotionless before they receive the emotes (memories) from the spirits?

[hushed steeple]

Is there a reason why the forest elder seems a bit rude when she just snatch fire from sky kids?

[open quail]

She has a job to do lmao

[hybrid oxide]

Workaholic

[rose gorge]

just really wanted that flame

[hybrid oxide]

Also didn't someone make a theory about prince=skid thing?

[sage lava]

Is there a reason why the forest elder seems a bit rude when she just snatch fire from sky kids?
@hushed steeple

I was theorizing that she actually wanted the child to hurry up to go to Eden.

[hybrid oxide]

Idk honestly

[celest spoke]

prince is like Avatar Prometheus— when stealing just fire isn’t enough, gotta catch em all

[stone adder]

Anyone has some teory about the single krill in the final mural? It's kind out of place

[round elbow]

Calling krills dark dragons implies that there are light dragons and where are they can I ride them

[real tendon]

Found this krill in the cave of Prophecies

[round elbow]

That is a good question, I wish I had an answer to that

[real tendon]

Maybe the dark worms are like antibodies protecting the bigger dark creature?

[round elbow]

Please that is the worst thing I have ever heard-

[stone adder]

I think is just pure darkness that slowly take our light, lile rain in forest...but what if the worms are similar to krills?

[round elbow]

Omg worms are bby krills

/j lol but like

[shadow star]

Maybe krill was live inside of clouds but they suddenly came out?

[fleet cradle]

What if they were light but get corrupted

[shadow star]

Very interesting

[vestal glade]

The dark worms remind me of the worms on strings

[stone adder]

And abour the krill in the mural...it's not even facing the elders, spirit and company

[hallow sentinel]

You can also destroy dark worms if you run into them after you finish the trial and are glowing

[stone adder]

Maybe is not a dark dragon...it's before the corruption

[icy spruce]

I-

[paper helm]

If there was a corruption it’d make sense that krill could turn dark too

[hallow sentinel]

I wonder if we’ll see dark worms more in future seasons or if this is it

[lethal stump]

i just want more dark creatures in general

[shadow star]

Maybe we are in the "puredark" and bby krills are just part of "dark"

[hallow sentinel]

This is the best picture i got of them

[lethal stump]

what if the dark worms are larvae for something bigger

[icy spruce]

Hhhhmmmm

I mean I remember someone said the Krills we see were actually children or teens (but that was old lore or smthng)

Ahah, imagine if they were actually childreb

*children

Ahhahaha

[lethal stump]

who said that ?

[shadow star]

Yeah who?

[icy spruce]

Idk, just some random person said it

[lethal stump]

sus

[hallow sentinel]

Maybe dark worms are krill larva? Like caterpillars before corrupted moths

[lost widget]

I do hope that we get to see more dark creatures in the future

[icy spruce]

In YTube

In a big crab videi

[lethal stump]

if it’s not a dev then i don’t trust it much, chesca

[icy spruce]

Ya, thats why I was like "eh"

But what if they were children

[paper helm]

I’ve actually seen the ‘krills are children’ theory a couple times?

[icy spruce]

Huh

[shadow star]

What

[paper helm]

It’s been mentioned or just lurking here in the lore chat I’ve seen it mentioned lol

[shadow star]

Hmmm

[sleek sail]

what if the krills are actually baby dark worms haha

mmmmmmmm good point

[tough path]

So whats the height comparison for the prophecy spirits?

[pastel brook]

coincidence...I think not

[viral meadow]

dark worms

[real tendon]

I feel like krills and shworms are different species, the dark worms seem kinda mindless and may even just be manufactured for the trials only using dark energy?

[sleek sail]

true

omg beta krill

[stone adder]

An idea: worms are circumscribed in the dark zone of the fire trial. They can hurt us like krill (we don't have cape so our light extinguished early) but they have limited action (after the "gift" we can bump into them and poofed them.
With this in mind we can theorize that krill are similar to worms but there's no dark zone to control them...worms can only live in the dark mist but krill can exists in golden wasteland with no problem at all cause that realm is full of negativity and darkness.
So both are generated by darkness...worms are under controlled, krills aren't

[viral meadow]

Worms?! I hope I don’t have them in my stomach because I keep hunting and eating the crabs...

[real tendon]

An idea: worms are circumscribed in the dark zone of the fire trial. They can hurt us like krill (we don't have cape so our light extinguished early) but they have limited action (after the "gift" we can bump into them and poofed them.
With this in mind we can theorize that krill are similar to worms but there's no dark zone to control them...worms can only live in the dark mist but krill can exists in golden wasteland with no problem at all cause that realm is full of negativity and darkness.
So both are generated by darkness...worms are under controlled, krills aren't
@stone adder ooh yes! This makes a lot of sense actually.

[upper garnet]

I- it remind me of this-

[shell sluice]

I-

[viral meadow]

[real tendon]

Dem googly eyes

[shadow star]

[stone adder]

Oooh so like are the worms tamed or have less intelligence/capability than krills?
@hushed steeple well the worms follow determinate paths...krills hunt you

[viral meadow]

[shadow star]

[potent loom]

General chat calling them shworms now. Shadow+worms

[shadow star]

Omg

Not really

[paper helm]

S h w o r m s

[shadow star]

Just call them what ever you want

[viral meadow]

Baby kwill?

[shadow star]

Hell yeah

[limpid pebble]

Googly eyes you say? Are you saying it's more googlier than me?
Just a question: why do you have a krill model with googly eyes image how?
That’s the question

[shadow star]

Ktjn show us

[limpid pebble]

Ah I see

[grim tundra]

what if the krills are actually baby dark worms haha

I feel like it's the other way around.
Shworms don't seem to have a physical form.

On the other hand, Krill are deaf, but Shworms have wind and basically "blow out" your light rather than smash it out of you.

Maybe Shworms can hear but not see?

[viral meadow]

How many Oreos could an Oreo krill krill if an Oreo krill could krill Oreos?

[hushed steeple]

so, dark worms, huh?
sorry I'm late. my discord was down for a while ;;

[icy spruce]

I almost thought a new bot appeared

I was like, "Woah, new bot"

:((

[viral meadow]

It might have...

[shadow star]

BRUH

[icy spruce]

cue dramatic music

[paper helm]

Yeah I don’t think shworms and krill are the same species, shworms are like a shadowy cloud thing but krills are actually physical

[icy spruce]

Ye

[hushed steeple]

I thought it was brophecy trolling us

[icy spruce]

Lmao

[pastel brook]

it has been foretold that @hushed steeple will seek a deeper understanding... AND FAIL

[icy spruce]

Huh

[viral meadow]

...maybe the brophecy is trolling us...

[icy spruce]

HUH

[grim tundra]

well the worms follow determinate paths...krills hunt you

I actually felt like the Shworms could change course a couple times.

[potent loom]

Nooo if they ever started randomized routes... fire trial would be hell

[paper helm]

I thought shworms followed sound like honking so when I went through with some friends earlier we all tried to remain silent

[viral meadow]

People like to use the krills to try to krill Oreo....

[shadow star]

Need experiments for that

[safe yacht]

They’re just dark and dark puts out our light.
That’s the whole trial.
At least that’s what I think.

[viral meadow]

Light puts out the dark!

[hallow sentinel]

What if theyre krill larvae and the dark trial is their nest? The larvae can’t leave the nest until they’re fully grown, at which point they become krill and go to the wasteland

[near moss]

Hrng

Uhhhhh

[safe yacht]

Oof.
That means we have more krill coming our way?

[paper helm]

Hmb

[near moss]

Well the Ashworms are pretty made of gas and smoke

Which is what snuffs out our light

[shadow star]

Interesting

[near moss]

But krill are solid and hunt us by slamming us headfirst

So I dunno

[grim tundra]

Krill don't want to stay in GW.
They are coming to Forest...
...then Prairie...

[near moss]

They’re very different

[paper helm]

But if they are larvae why are they like- shadowy

Meanwhile krill are physical, you can touch them and they’re solid

[near moss]

Exactly my point

They do things very, very differently

[paper helm]

Mhm

[safe yacht]

Well darkness wasn’t always in the world so what if that is where the krills are summoned (I guess you could say) but they aren’t fully materialized?

[near moss]

Hurng hmmm

[lethal stump]

darkness was always part of the world, though

[near moss]

Ye

[shadow star]

Pur dark

[lethal stump]

« the world of sky has a rich ecology of light and dark »

• canon doc

[near moss]

Mhm

[safe yacht]

Ah. Nvm.

[near moss]

Here’s another thing

[paper helm]

Yee

[shadow star]

Wut

[grim tundra]

If Shworms are in the trial, isn't that evidence that the Fire Prophet/ spirits have some sort of control over dark creatures?

[near moss]

The Ashworms are made of their glowing eye lights and the ash of their bodies, right?

[fast jasper]

wait do we hav names for the smokey bois in the fire trial

[near moss]

While Krill are made of solid material, probably what could be darkness but it sounds like metal

Ashworm

[safe yacht]

In that case are the prophets evil?

[pastel brook]

The prophets foresee everything 👁️

[near moss]

I call em ash

Nah

Who’s to say that the Ashworms are evil themself?

[lethal stump]

beta chat calls them owls

[shadow star]

Bby krills

[near moss]

They just float around doing stuff

[hushed steeple]

Dunno if they're ash or clouds but yeah
ash/smoke/clouds

[safe yacht]

Yeah.

[paper helm]

Apparently the worm bois are being called shworms so ✨

[hushed steeple]

Do the Worms die at the end of the challenge?

[grim tundra]

In that case are the prophets evil?
@safe yacht
Maybe have some sort of summoning power, but they went too far one day.

[safe yacht]

Who’s to say they even see us there.

[near moss]

Exactly

They licherally just vibing

[fast jasper]

Wait maybe krills have the metal sound because its like an exoskeleton for the smoky worms

[near moss]

Not their fault we die

Ooohhh

Thats incheresting

[grim tundra]

Do the Worms die at the end of the challenge?
@hushed steeple wait and see

[near moss]

But like then why do krill only have one eye

[hybrid oxide]

Hmm the worms have two "eyes"

[safe yacht]

Or if they do would you call a lion evil for hunting for food?

[fast jasper]

fusion

[hushed steeple]

Some sound effects of the Worms Reminded me of krills

[near moss]

Krill eyes are blue and they turn red

[viral meadow]

Skybot, where you go? Do you have some prophecy stuff here? Or are you deep in sneep snorp?

[near moss]

Like a sensor

[hushed steeple]

Def the deep rumble

[fast jasper]

so exoskeleton theory sorta true?

[stone adder]

If Shworms are in the trial, isn't that evidence that the Fire Prophet/ spirits have some sort of control over dark creatures?
@grim tundra i don't think the fire prophet has control over them...maybe he can just create the base for their development

[pastel brook]

What's all this ruckus about!?

[bright relic]

fluffy owls of course

[safe yacht]

XD

[viral meadow]

There you are, Skybot!

[grim tundra]

Oreo was making fun of Krill.
Krill sad.

[hybrid oxide]

Tbh, krill gives off more "carbon/coal" Feel

[stone adder]

If the fire prophet control fire-light by taking it all from a crrtain area he can generate the dark bubble where the worms are born

[viral meadow]

Aw, but kwill bully!

[hybrid oxide]

Wormy bois is ashy

[hushed steeple]

I think these trials are just in our heads

[hybrid oxide]

Its not physical

[hushed steeple]

we are meditating

[grim tundra]

[hushed steeple]

I think these trials are just in our heads
our consciousness gets transported to a different realm (which almost always happens when we meditate)

[safe yacht]

Yeah. Krills are much more solid.
They seem to take the light by force while the owls just pass over us, probably leaving residue, which in turn puts out our light.

[viral meadow]

Skykids, I found krill eggs in forest! Look out!

[safe yacht]

Do krilled hatch from eggs?

[hushed steeple]

I sure hope not ;;;

[limpid pebble]

There are corpses on one of the murals depicting the trials right?

[stone adder]

So we see the student Ancestors in each realm right? What if some of them didn't die in Eden, but in failing the trials? Like for example... The pointing pilgrim... He kinda looks the same as when he's a student...
@hushed steeple good teory...but wouldn't he be in the cave prophecy instead of the middle of isle?

[pastel brook]

it has been foretold that @stone adder will seek a deeper understanding... AND FAIL

[safe yacht]

Wait.
What if the skykids were made by the previous generation as an experiment to try to find a way to be more resistant to the darkness?

[hybrid oxide]

There are corpses on one of the murals depicting the trials right?
Those are the ancestors who died doing the trial
Before the prince succeed

[hushed steeple]

There are corpses on one of the murals depicting the trials right?
they could be just sleeping... forever

[safe yacht]

Maybe it’s their happiest/saddest memory.

[hushed steeple]

or they remain in a place that was relevant or important for them when they were alive

[fast jasper]

looks like pointy is just looking at murals

[safe yacht]

Yeah.

[stone adder]

I'm not sure if it's canon, but spirit memories (and their statues) doesn't have to be in the place where they die, or the last remaining times they are alive
@hushed steeple oh jeez...I've just realised: he didn't pass the trial, eventually died and his spirit is still aiming for the realms

And this is why is ponting at prairie

[pastel brook]

i prophesize that...

[hushed steeple]

the angst suddenly rose to astronomical levels

Ohhhhh and where do we see the mural with the four prophets outside the prophecy cave Butter is talking about....? FROM POINTING PILGRIM
the murals can be seen in two different places

[pastel brook]

the prophecy cycle starts again...

[stone adder]

Ohhhhh and where do we see the mural with the four prophets outside the prophecy cave Butter is talking about....? FROM POINTING PILGRIM
@hushed steeple okay now i'm crying

[pastel brook]

i have seen your future, @stone adder, and... well, i won't spoil the surprise

Psh, I'm WAY cooler than those prophets!

[bleak depot]

I could use a Prophecy lore dump/doc, I don't hang around here much

[safe yacht]

I feel like some of the “nonsense” Skybot says releases some info about the prophecy.

[hushed steeple]

yup

the two at the bottom are from pointing pilgrim's cave

[safe yacht]

The one of the lower left would be from Prairie, right?
Cause like the castle is the temple and the boats are the ones from that little island.

I know.

[bright relic]

I may be dumb but my opinion of the Cave of Prophecy is it's a school with four teachers, and students who learn skills like patience and courage from them. The Trials are there to test what they've learned, and we sky kids come to relive the lessons of the past. (this is really basic and probably has already been said, but I haven't been here much)

oh and the quest spirit is like the principal or something XD

It's ok :) my theory isn't great anyway

[safe yacht]

Nah. You’re good. I should probably stick to memes anyway.

[hushed steeple]

it's okay, we have space for everyone here~

[stone adder]

We must fuse our braincelss
@hushed steeple maybe we can make a brain at the end

[bright relic]

patronizing smile Your idea is so wholesome! kicks dark lore theories under carpet

Well

[safe yacht]

apparently kind or helpful but betraying a feeling of superiority; condescending

[stone adder]

😭 😭

[safe yacht]

That’s patronizing.

[bright relic]

Being patronized is like when you show someone your obviously terrible art from when you were three and they say, "Wow, what a beautiful artwork, I've never seen anything so lovely!"

[safe yacht]

It’s like you’re being nice but you’re doing it to be better than someone else. Or you think you’re better than someone else.

[hushed steeple]

oof, did I come off as patronizing?? I'm sorry, that was def not my intention ;;;

[bright relic]

Oh no, not at all, I was just joking

[hushed steeple]

oh, thank Megan

[bright relic]

i have low self-esteem so every compliment feels like i'm being patronized ;-;

[hushed steeple]

well, the laying bodies in the murals are there for a reason...

[bright relic]

maybe they just... fainted? hopeful smile

[safe yacht]

I’m telling you.
This generation is here to be immune (in a sense) to darkness.
We just die and then pop back up again.

[bright relic]

or maybe questgiver is the school nurse

And- and the trials are just playgrounds!

And then someone's pet fluffy owls escaped and went a bit crazy in the dark playground!

And the first playground got flooded because of a plumbing problem, so no one wants to touch the water

[safe yacht]

The water is so pretty though.

[bright relic]

And someone accidentally made a bunch of things float

[hushed steeple]

something I'm not sure of is whether the trials for the spirits are the same we have to do...

[bright relic]

Maybe they toned it down for us because we're just kids?

[hushed steeple]

or if we, as indestructible skykids, get trials 10 times as hard

[safe yacht]

Or maybe they’re harder because we can’t actually stay dead.

Yeah. That.

[hushed steeple]

for instance, in the fire trial, we mustn't loose our light, but...
did spirits have light in them the same way we do?

idk

[safe yacht]

Oh my gosh.
Maybe the darkness is so bad because they took all the light to make a stronger generation.

[hushed steeple]

I'm genuinely asking lmao

[bright relic]

hmmmmm, good question

[safe yacht]

The realms we have (and the trials) are just experimenting how strong this generation actually is.

And if it’s strong enough they’re going to let us loose on a bigger world.

[bright relic]

imagine tgc people don't actually know the lore, they just make up random fun stuff and then watch all the theories explode while they laugh

[safe yacht]

XD
Maybe that’s actually how it is.

[stone adder]

imagine tgc people don't actually know the lore, they just make up random fun stuff and then watch all the theories explode while they laugh
@bright relic i'll be laughing too

[safe yacht]

They just want to see the crazy ideas we come up with to connect everything.

[stone adder]

Ok i've just cheked...every student it's from some realms

[safe yacht]

Yes. Sky is amazing.
I just love how much freedom they gave us with this game.

[stone adder]

🤩

[safe yacht]

Ooh.

[stone adder]

Wow thanks

[bright relic]

Thanks, I was just gonna ask XD

[safe yacht]

None of them have capes in that picture.

[bright relic]

This is when they were still learning?

[safe yacht]

And very few of them have capes afterwards.

Do they have to earn their capes?

[bright relic]

Also, could you add what each prophet/trial teaches? Like patience and stuff? Maybe there's a correlation for what each spirit learned

[stone adder]

I think cape for spirit is just a cosmetic...they couldn't fly with it

[bright relic]

or maybe they just randomly chose spirits

!

[safe yacht]

That’s kind of what I was thinking...

The others didn’t make it past the trials.

[bright relic]

those two are also the only ones from Wasteland...

Maybe they passed and got selected to be on the frontlines...

WHAT IF THIS IS JUST A MILITARY TRAINING CAMP AAAAH

[safe yacht]

I was thinking Eden was the place to rest out the warriors but maybe it’s the trials.

[stone adder]

Stealty survivor knows what to do near krills cause he was trained by prophet #changemymind

[safe yacht]

Ok... but what if the ones that survived the trials but didn’t pass got those blue things.

[bright relic]

woah

[safe yacht]

Hide and seek seems kind of childish and honestly so does blushing prospector...

[bright relic]

Well Prospector and Pioneer are Hidden Forest

maybe their grades affect where they go live and yes i'm sticking to my school theory

[near moss]

ur not supposed to fly in graevyard???

[safe yacht]

Yeah. Probably best to stay wholesome.

[near moss]

ohh

Yeah I don't think the spirits can fly tbh

[gloomy stag]

Just wondering, does that yellow person represent a skykid?

[stone adder]

Well Prospector and Pioneer are Hidden Forest
@bright relic this is genius

[near moss]

They have capes and the moths can do it

Yeah

The yellow person represents a skykid for sure

Which one is the question

[bright relic]

@bright relic this is genius
@stone adder How is this genius?

[near moss]

It could also represent the winged light but i'm p su re its just skykid

[hushed steeple]

sidenote: it's not courageous soldier, it's the boatmaker

[near moss]

heheh

There's a catapault in the Graveyard so perhaps

The person manning it died tho

[bright relic]

!

[near moss]

?

[sleek sail]

i thought the yellow one was the king bc the head lines 😳

[stone adder]

@stone adder How is this genius?
@bright relic i pin the wrong message...i mean the grade that affect where they go living it's a good teory

[hushed steeple]

Just wondering, does that yellow person represent a skykid?
I'm pretty sure it's the prince...

Wait what? Are they switched?
just take a look at their hair

[near moss]

nhnnhnh

I don't know about it repping the prince but it seems plausible

[safe yacht]

Ok. Idk what I did.

[near moss]

I don't think the Prince has much correlation with skykids tbh

[tough path]

oh that long thing is an elder manta

[hushed steeple]

like, it's at the top of the castle

[tough path]

like the one in sanctuary

[near moss]

Whale

[hushed steeple]

how is it not the prince??

[near moss]

Or the one in the clouds between GW and Valley

[tough path]

[near moss]

That's not one dude

That's like 5 spirit mantas lol

[safe yacht]

There’s also the constellations so maybe that tells you which spirit passed which trial based on how they’re closest to the constellation.

[bright relic]

[near moss]

nope

That's just a bunch of spirit mantas

[bright relic]

Is it just me or does the fish head look a bit like a prophecy mask

[pastel brook]

i better not prophe-see any spoilers here

[hushed steeple]

could be, who knows

[near moss]

eehhhhhh

[quaint zinc]

Idk it looks like this guy.
excuse his stretching, he worked hard carrying 4 lanterns
@hushed steeple
this guy kinda looks like the creature from flOw

[tough path]

help i wanna hear more theories about spirits

[stone adder]

I noticed another thing in the final mural...there's no representation of eden/orbit/caste/sky reign or whatever...so it didn't exist yet

[near moss]

Oh hmm

Wait

No that's not right

[hushed steeple]

it's the origin story of the kingdom, after all

[near moss]

Orbit existed before they started their settlements in the clouds

[hushed steeple]

not the story of the fall

[near moss]

Right?

Like they fell and then started building a life there

I think the Forgotten Ark kinda cements that?

And they do make a reference to Eden

[stone adder]

it's the origin story of the kingdom, after all
@hushed steeple exactly...they (the elders) didn't have control over light yet

[near moss]

After you die you get sent to the room with the white skykid

and then you have that pillar of light

[grim tundra]

I see the dark dragon down on the bottom left in the clouds, but I'm still not really getting any lore out of this.

We see that Prairie is Earth.
Forest is Water.
Valley is Air.
And GW is Fire.

But they came to Sky in the order of Water: Earth:Air:Fire

So besides the dark cloud in Fire, I really don't get this.

[near moss]

The pillar of light is depicted

Remember the different wisdoms of each element too

[hushed steeple]

meow, you're moving too fast ;;;

[near moss]

Earth is Resilience

so is the chat

[hushed steeple]

my last braincell is trying its hardest but it's still not enough ;;;

[near moss]

Water is Patience, Air is Balance, Fire is Courage

[stone adder]

But with the prince everything change...they could control light, start tu built in the sky to have more from the sun/stars and then eventually they pass the limit

[safe yacht]

That may be how it was decided.

[near moss]

hrng????

[safe yacht]

Not the order at all but the wisdom.

[near moss]

They came from orbit though I think that's pretty canon

[hushed steeple]

the elders are fallen stars

[near moss]

4spirits fell too tho

The spirits fell too the FA shows that

The boats with the spirits on it?

The forgotten ark full of spirits that crashed down through the clouds? Am I missing something???? I don't understand

Yeah but Isle also depicts some of that iirc

[hushed steeple]

they did crash, but they didn't come from outer space

[near moss]

Ye

I see that

I think

Why are the ascended spirits in Orbit though?

Is it that they didn't come from there but wanted to go there?

Oh I think about this thing too

The elders can't ascend until all the spirits in their constellation do

I think that's more out of choice than b eing forced

[hushed steeple]

orbit is like an after-death place, it's not like you wanna go there and poof

[near moss]

So they wait for all their spirits to go and then follow them

They wanted to go there by taking the boats I think

mhm mhm

[stone adder]

The elders can't ascend until all the spirits in their constellation do
@near moss but they're in orbit too...just before you reborn again

[near moss]

Yeah but they can't ascend

I haven't watched the cutscene in a while

[stone adder]

Same

[near moss]

can't get their final reward until you do the entire constellation and bring all the spirits to orbit

Ye

[stone adder]

Yep that's right...my fault

[near moss]

Also they can hop from Orbit to Home whnever they want once ascended that's how yo ucan interact with them

[hushed steeple]

I mean, they're spirits already

[near moss]

ye

[hushed steeple]

and elders... well, better not to touch on that subject yet

yeah... that's why I don't really like to theorise about them ;;;

get some good sneep snorp, boop

[stone adder]

Good night ya all...i have to go too

[safe yacht]

Goodnight humans.

[hushed steeple]

sneep well, everyone

[pulsar iris]

So... not sure if you all went over this, but what was the overall point of the trial? From the update mural that came today, we complete the trials, collect the elements, return them to the sky and then....?

[near moss]

ascend??

The middle of the murals suggest that some kind of ascension goes on with the skykid once they reach eden, which we know

[hushed steeple]

my theory is that the murals and the trials are not so closely connected as we might think.
the murals represent the story of how the kingdom came to be (from the fallen stars to the construction of a big civilization)

[near moss]

yeah I figure that too

The Elements are really separate from the rest of the lore so I wonder

I want to connect the elements and the coloured lights from Enchantment

[hushed steeple]

in the last mural, we can see eden with the castle at its peak, and above it, we see a bright figure floating which I interpret to be the king/prince

[near moss]

There were five CL right?

Red Blue Cyan Green and Purple

I think there was a yellow one too

hrng

Yeah

[fast jasper]

[pulsar iris]

Forgot about the elements for enchantment!

[fast jasper]

looks like vault lady is there

[pulsar iris]

And she’s transporting the elements

[hushed steeple]

perhaps not the elder, but a pretty big or important figure in the vault scholars

[near moss]

Yeah Orange!

I don't know if that's the vault lady that might just be the season guide

[pulsar iris]

Notice how all the smaller ones have the headpiece as well? Maybe it was just another acolyte

[fast jasper]

i believe there is no season guide has that same mask

[pulsar iris]

But... we still don’t know where they were going with the elements

[near moss]

ye

[hushed steeple]

it could be Mr. enchantment before they all had to adapt to a desert attire...

[fast jasper]

restoring the waste?

[pulsar iris]

🤔🤔🤔🤔

[near moss]

Like I said I wanted to connect the lights with the elements

Yeah I think it's plausible to assume that the Enchantment folks were Acolytes at some point

[hushed steeple]

nono, they were

[pulsar iris]

And then they were stranded by the krill, and settled?

[near moss]

Stranded by krill and crashed into the desert oasis

But ye

[fast jasper]

well they were stranded

[near moss]

They use the light to bring their home back to life

[hushed steeple]

that part is hard to say. the murals depict the crash happened because of a storm

[near moss]

ye I thought that too

[hushed steeple]

but there's also a krill in the mural (?

[pulsar iris]

Makes sense! Cause their power diamonds broke and they couldn’t fly

[hushed steeple]

what purpose does it have? idk

[near moss]

That they were knocked out of the sky (maybe while they were trying to get to Orbit??) and knocked down

Eh

There's a krill by the mountains so

[pulsar iris]

Maybe they were trying to return to vault?

[near moss]

ohh hmmm

[fast jasper]

probably

[near moss]

That's plausible oto

[pulsar iris]

Cause the only entrance is through wasteland

[near moss]

and home

but the entrance to the tower is blocked by Dusk Elder's Temple so ye

[pulsar iris]

Dusk elder?

[hushed steeple]

but wait. vault used to be inside of the castle

[near moss]

I don't like writing out the Golden Wastelands Elder so I just say Dusk

or GW

[pulsar iris]

Are you saying vault was apart of eden castle?

[near moss]

uhhh

[pulsar iris]

Ohh okay

[near moss]

don't know about that one

What's your theory on that?

[fast jasper]

well its technically inside the mountain

[pulsar iris]

*lower castle levels

[hushed steeple]

Are you saying vault was apart of eden castle?
fire trial's mural confirms it

yeah... like the dungeons or something

[pulsar iris]

So back to an earlier theory

The enchantment gang were acolytes

Trying to restore wasteland but where attacked by krill?

Or trying to return to vault

[fleet cradle]

If vault is part of eden castle why it didnt git destroyed?

[broken basin]

Air trial murals (updated)

Fire trial mural (today's)

Download for a much better quality <3

[near moss]

thas the

thas the castle?

thought that was the mountain near eden

[pulsar iris]

*maybe vault was the lower castle levels

[fleet cradle]

Ohhh right!

[pulsar iris]

Or the whole mountain was the castle

[near moss]

oh hey hey

[pulsar iris]

Hm?

[near moss]

Did you notice how the mountain is between the Vault constellation and the Isle

I wonder what that means

Maybe the route through the realms in a circle

[fleet cradle]

Isle and vault elders didnt have a wisdom light

[near moss]

Which really fits with the whole rebirth/day cycle theme

[pulsar iris]

The beginning and the end

[near moss]

YEEE

EXACLTY

Getting back to me connecting the elements with the coloured lights

[pulsar iris]

Vault and isle seem to be... disconnected from the elements

[near moss]

The ones we're missing are the Green Light and the Purple light rihgt?

yeah they do

[broken basin]

That might just be the mural, cause tbh, it doesn't look like they circle in actual

[pulsar iris]

Or it utilizes of them ???

[near moss]

Perhaps they are the oldest

No orange, no green, no purple

So these can be attributed to one of the elders that don't apply

[fleet cradle]

Thta ones are enchantment lights?

[pulsar iris]

Orange light was... which realm again?

[broken basin]

Purple and red and other enchatement lights were artificial lights created by scholars.
The ones in propehcy are actual 4 elemental lights of creation(blue, green,cyan, orange)

[near moss]

I think purple is obviously with Vault

[hushed steeple]

well, we can find the purple light in vault.
which leaves isle as the only real-

wait, that's not true

[near moss]

YEE

That makes sense

[pulsar iris]

Ohhh!!

[hushed steeple]

just be4 prairie is the cyan light

[near moss]

It's not orange mind you it's red

[pulsar iris]

Like sub elementals!

[near moss]

In the elements

Prairie isn't Cyan valley is cyan

i think

[pulsar iris]

Thought valley was blue

Like the lake

[near moss]

Yeah the one in the rink

[hushed steeple]

I'm talking about the Enchantment lights lol

[near moss]

yeah me too

[broken basin]

It's Orange, red stands for illusion, not fire (orange is fire) tho in the murals it looks a bit red , but i go by what the majority here thinks

[pulsar iris]

Ye

[near moss]

Hmm

I mean we can do that I guess

Just connect the Orange light with Fire sure

The icon is fire there too so

[hushed steeple]

when we have to retrieve them, cyan is in the path between isle and prairie

[pulsar iris]

Maybe it’s a subset of fire

[near moss]

ahhh thought that was the orange one

[hushed steeple]

Btw lore dudes! I dont want this to get lost, but hop from pot to pot after doing fire trial for special cutscenes! These pots here. I think they reveal the lore of the skykid!

[pulsar iris]

Since they’re are for primal elements

[near moss]

they do

[broken basin]

Yes, they reveal the child of light

[hushed steeple]

Im still confused about the lore

[pulsar iris]

And the rest seem like subsets of the four

[broken basin]

So are we

[near moss]

too bad so are the rest of us

[hushed steeple]

Can someone give me a rundown

valley has the blue one
which is weird because they don't match with the ones from the murals...

[near moss]

mhm mhm mhm

Incheresting

[pulsar iris]

(Possibly created by acolytes)

[near moss]

Perhaps they don't match too well

But I like to think they do becayse the colours are almost identical

And the icons are similar

[pulsar iris]

Maybe

[hushed steeple]

I'm really confused about the lore of Sky revealed by the season of prophecy. Someone help? Give me an abridged version maybe?

blue and cyan? uhhhh, kinda farfetched but alright

[pulsar iris]

The elements exists in different places for each realm?

[near moss]

Perhaps?

I think that would make sense

[pulsar iris]

Cause if valley represents air

[broken basin]

Ahh, what i would suggest is dont relate the locations of SoE lights with SoP. They are not the same, if you ask me, their symbols are different, and the enchatement ones are artificially created by vault scholars , but not the propehcy ones

[pulsar iris]

Then why did we have a blue light during enchantment

[hushed steeple]

that's true

[near moss]

I know but we're thinkin lol

We probably won;t be able to connect them but I think it's interesting to see why and how

[pulsar iris]

So who ARE the prophets?

[near moss]

They're the leaders of their tiny community iirc

[pulsar iris]

Are they protectors/teachers of the elements?

[hushed steeple]

Ahh, what i would suggest is dont relate the locations of SoE lights with SoP. They are not the same, if you ask me, their symbols are different, and the enchatement ones are artificially created by vault scholars , but not the propehcy ones
what if the vault scholars were trying to replicate the effects of the primal lights? (gonna call prophecy lights like that from now on)

[near moss]

they met up and took care and probably gave prohpecies or something

[broken basin]

Propehcy lights are the Actual elements of creation that sort of made the kingdom, they fell from the sky, and were a gift of nature.

[pulsar iris]

Maybe...

[near moss]

While the Enchantment lights could be spirit made

hmmm i like that

[pulsar iris]

They were teaching the spirits to appreciate and reconnect

[near moss]

might be why Vault doesn't have a light

[pulsar iris]

So eden falling apart wouldn’t happen

Vault it artificial so that makes sense

And so are the artificial or sun elements

[hushed steeple]

So is there a rundown for the lore from the season of prophecy? Sorry to keep asking.

[pastel brook]

beware the ||||

[pulsar iris]

*sub

[hushed steeple]

Ik just really confused

*im

[near moss]

we're working on it tbh

[pulsar iris]

Yea @hushed steeple

[hushed steeple]

What is it so far?

[pulsar iris]

We collect the lights return them to the sky

[near moss]

Basically take a look at the murals

[broken basin]

Yes, what i think is that, in SoL, there was a white-ish light, if you know, white forms all the colors, so the vault scholars could've separated the colors (red, orange, green, cyan, blue, purple) which made the lights of enchantement

[near moss]

There are four elements and you receive them by completing the Trial

[hushed steeple]

What is it so far?
we're all confused, still trying to solve the puzzle

[near moss]

pooohhh

[pulsar iris]

We know the lights represent elementals but not why they had the trials first

[broken basin]

*wisdoms

[near moss]

I THINK

I THINK

OKay so when you finish the trails you honro the wisdom of the different charactersitsis righ?

[pulsar iris]

Maybe the prophets were acolytes that defected to isle elder

[broken basin]

Yes, namely, patience, resilience, balance , and courage

[near moss]

Maybe you need to honor them and that's what's depicted by the golden figure holding the light

[hushed steeple]

Perhaps because in order to carry an element in your soul or whatever you need to have the virtue associated with it to be able to bear it?

[pulsar iris]

Yea!

[near moss]

Yeah like i said

[pulsar iris]

That would make sense!

[near moss]

you need to do the trail to prove you can honor the Wisdom of each thing

[pulsar iris]

But why?

[near moss]

And then with the Wisdom's blessing you can make it to eden

[pulsar iris]

Why hold the elements?

They seemed content with power diamond

[near moss]

Elements were primal

[safe yacht]

Maybe the power diamond came after the elements.

[near moss]

they couldn't create mechanisms and only did things like geysers and floating rocks

[pulsar iris]

And this is also with the assumption that the spirits didn’t reincarnate like we do?

[near moss]

For sure

[pulsar iris]

Also if prarie was earth where are all the farms

[hushed steeple]

Water is sloshy so perhaps you would need patience to carry it.

Earth is immovable so you need resilience to subdue it.

Air is fickle so you need inner balance to tame it.

Fire is scary so you need bravery to face it.

If I had to guess why those virtues were associated with it.

[near moss]

Farms

[safe yacht]

That makes sense.

[near moss]

They did Butterfly farm

I think

[pulsar iris]

Top notch theories

[near moss]

They captured light

[pulsar iris]

Only butterflies?

[near moss]

yeah prolly

[pulsar iris]

Enchantment sprits had feilds?

[safe yacht]

Well, that would be farming light practically.

[pulsar iris]

Did the elders not eat

[near moss]

Prolly not lol

[safe yacht]

Wouldn’t they use light like us?

[near moss]

I don't think anything ate

Yeah

that's what I mean

[safe yacht]

Sure we joke about eating crabs but we never eat or drink anything.

[hushed steeple]

I mean, who knows

[near moss]

Ayin took your light and made it into a butterfly so

There is that one campfire tho

[plain flume]

I have so many things to say

[near moss]

With the crabs on stick

[hushed steeple]

they could eat some sort of special food that gave them those god-like abilities

[safe yacht]

Well crabs try to hurt us

Light hurts them

[hushed steeple]

like the Greek gods and ambrosia

[near moss]

hrng

Light

[safe yacht]

So maybe they were hunting them but not for food?

[near moss]

Wax

[broken basin]

The child of light completed all the trials while other ancestors failed, he gained all four wisdoms and gave them to the elders, who then, with their Massive light were able to make the whole kingdom.
Since the CoL was the one who gathered and garnered the wisdoms, the elders were extremely thankful and sort of thought of the CoL as a god sent to save them. Then, knowing that he has all the virtues of the elements, they felt obliged to crown him as the ruler of the kingdom since he was the wisest , at that time at least.

[near moss]

but then why are they cooking the crab

[left lagoon]

TwT

[safe yacht]

Because the fire is what kills is.

The light.

[near moss]

Why do they kill only 3 out of the hundres

[broken basin]

3 out of 100s wdym?

The crabs?

[near moss]

crab

Many crab

I mean Hundreds is hyperbole byt still

[left lagoon]

SCREE

[near moss]

The crabs on the stick were super big too

[safe yacht]

Maybe those were just the ones they got to.
Or maybe it wasn’t l practical if they could do the deep honk.

[hushed steeple]

3 is just an example

[broken basin]

Oh, well, when people cook irl, why do they cook just 1 turkey and not 100s?

[left lagoon]

Crabs

[hushed steeple]

What if life is the fifth element so to speak? The light? But taking life harms the world and is toxic because it causes death instead of taking from the "approved" sources.

People got greedy and tired of proving their aptitudes and wanted more power to fuel a new age instead of being content living in harmony with the world around them.

[near moss]

no there were three on the stick iirc

[hushed steeple]

If I had to tie it in with what I said earlier

[near moss]

TO EAT

BUT THEY DIDN"T EAT IT IS WHAT THEY"RE SAYNIG LOL

[safe yacht]

Maybe they can eat but don’t have to.

[broken basin]

I mean they'll cook the amount that is sufficient to fill them up, why would they cook all 100s of em when there's no need?🗿

[near moss]

maybe

But why cook if no need eat???

That's the thing

[safe yacht]

And some just found crab meat to be delicious.

[hushed steeple]

oookay, let's all calm down a bit
we're getting a bit heated

[near moss]

Maybe they just want to

[left lagoon]

I'm just confused

[near moss]

Nah i'm cool i'm just being silly lmao

[pulsar iris]

Crabs?

[safe yacht]

And I’m not mad either.

[near moss]

ye

[pulsar iris]

We’re crabs in the mural?

[left lagoon]

Me neither

[near moss]

NOO

[left lagoon]

TwT

[near moss]

OMG IMAGINE THO

[safe yacht]

We’re talking about needing to eat.

[pulsar iris]

Ohhh okay

[left lagoon]

Idk how anyone would be mad..?

[near moss]

Skykids are crabs the end everyone go home

[safe yacht]

XD
I want to see a mural with crabs now.

[near moss]

Ark had a lot

[hushed steeple]

there's one

[pulsar iris]

It’s in enchantment caves

[broken basin]

I think that the crabs were cooking when the Belonging spirit was there but when we relived him, we immediately rang the bell, and he instantly ran to the forest cavern to his son , forgetting about the crabs

You'll be able to understand this if you know the cutscenes in belonging

[hushed steeple]

yeah

[pulsar iris]

Hmmm I wasn’t here yet bsck then

[plain flume]

•in the fire trial we find out that blue light isnt exclusively from krills, its just the colour of light in darkness (could mean that darkness is blue?)
||•In eden the children of light are hiding behind statues, the rest are stone, does this mean that to let their light pass on, to us, they had to hide from darkness as best they could and am i the only one crying over this||
•crabs are just trying to give hugs/j
•is the image attached eden in the distance because im convinced that it is

[near moss]

OHH PINEAPLLE THAT"S TRUUUU

There's some of that blue light in Eden too

[safe yacht]

Probably.

[pulsar iris]

We’re?

[broken basin]

Yes, that's eden pine

[safe yacht]

Look at that beacon of light.

[near moss]

Yeah that's eden

[plain flume]

Ah thanks i wasnt sure

[broken basin]

It's the eden beam we see while hugging the shiny boi

[pulsar iris]

Oh yeah

[broken basin]

In that room i mean

[safe yacht]

Yeah.

[near moss]

yee

[safe yacht]

How many Easter eggs does sky have?

[pulsar iris]

4?

Idk

[broken basin]

So, according to propehcy , vault is under that cloud mountain

[pulsar iris]

Yes

[plain flume]

Too many (but its ok bc we love it)

[broken basin]

As shown here

[near moss]

Yeah obvi

Because Vault leads directly to eden

[pulsar iris]

Btw love ||Eden before the great collapse ||

[broken basin]

Yeah, the summit is kind of the eden entrance

[pulsar iris]

I wanna see eden

[near moss]

get there

[pulsar iris]

Before all the crazinessssss

[near moss]

I managed to stop going brr during my Eden run yesterday

[broken basin]

Maybe there'll be a season in which we get to see the actual eden

[near moss]

So it was intereesting to walk around and stuff

PLEASE

[pulsar iris]

I sure hope so

[near moss]

PLEASE

[plain flume]

Every part of eden makes me cry so uh yeah

[near moss]

JUST

EDEN MEMORIES

PLEASE

[broken basin]

I'll cry😂🗿😂

[pulsar iris]

IT LOOKS LIKE A GLORIOUS OLACE TO BEEEE

[near moss]

Literally could be a single mural and I will be so happy

[hushed steeple]

I wonder how we are related to the original child of light

[pulsar iris]

||IMAGINE MEETING THE SKY KING!!!! AS A SPIRIT MEMORY!!!!’||

[safe yacht]

Isn’t he evil?

[pulsar iris]

AHHHHHH

[broken basin]

I made a very bad looking concept some time ago😂😖😖

[pulsar iris]

I think

He just got to powerful and it backfired

Not inherently evil though

[hushed steeple]

crab murals for those who were asking

[pulsar iris]

Like the power diamond broke apart the civilization and the krill got stronger

[safe yacht]

So what if his memory is related to how he became evil.
Like, a mistake he made.
You know, if we ever get that spirit.

[steady pollen]

crabs,,im mrubnae,alo,,,

[broken basin]

The king just got driven by too much power
And he wanted more

[plain flume]

My favourite mural is the one about the crab attacking people

[pulsar iris]

Wasteland could not defend against its enemies so everything collapsed

[broken basin]

Well, sure the crabs will attack them when they stole water from their natural habitat

[pulsar iris]

Yeye

[plain flume]

You right

[pulsar iris]

Are crabs angry butterflies

Les discuss

[hushed steeple]

So why do the crabs get mad?

[pulsar iris]

Wait

[hushed steeple]

Because we stole from them?

[plain flume]

OH I HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THIS

[pulsar iris]

But there’s docile crabs too right?

[near moss]

i thin k maybe?

[pulsar iris]

In santuary

[safe yacht]

There are!?!?

[pulsar iris]

Yeah

[plain flume]

What??

[safe yacht]

Those always attack me.

[hushed steeple]

Only in ||office|< tbh

[pulsar iris]

On the islands outside the big island

[broken basin]

Maybe, the crabs are mad since earlier when the kingdom was intact, they took water from Their habitats ans that's what made them angry

[plain flume]

I go there all the time and i always get bonked

[safe yacht]

Ohh. Yeah.

[hushed steeple]

Maybe thats just for fun

And its not canon

[safe yacht]

But those are in the sun.

[pulsar iris]

The difference between docile and hostile

[hushed steeple]

Ooooh

[pulsar iris]

Is the charcoals on their legs

That we get when we die

[hushed steeple]

Docule crabs have light!

[pulsar iris]

!!! But how did crabs get mad?

Also how come nice crabs aren’t infected?

Is corruption a sickness to them?

[safe yacht]

But maybe the charcoal on their legs mean they can’t move fast enough to hurt us.

[pulsar iris]

No no they can

All the crabs in wasteland have it haha

[hushed steeple]

no cellphones, only crabs vibing to light and water

[safe yacht]

The ones on that island?

[broken basin]

Maybe, sky crabs used to live in water but when the water level decreased since the civilization took it and when most of it became polluted , they had to come out of the water or else they would die of toxins

[pulsar iris]

The ones on that island do move slower

[safe yacht]

Yeah.

[pulsar iris]

!!! I’d get behind in

*it

[safe yacht]

So maybe that’s what the charcoal does.

[plain flume]

Ok ok so heres my theory: darkness is afraid of the light, when they see it they attack immediately and try to get rid of it, the goal is to keep the areas in darkness.
The reason theyre dark is lost to me but i truly believe it may be something to do with pollution and destruction of their homes by "light"

[pulsar iris]

If there weren’t mean crabs in the tree room in santuary

But maybe the tree corrupted them

There is nothing to burn around the nice crabs

[safe yacht]

This is true.

[dull fox]

Maybe some crabs are just in a crabby mood

wheeze

[broken basin]

I feel like both darkness and light are equally balanced, in the way darkness tries to take over light, light always also tries to take over darkness equally. (That's why when we give the elders a lil flame, they become back to being full of light).

If light didn't try to take over dark, nothing woulve happened when we gave elders our light

[plain flume]

Oh yeah i believe that theres a problem of imbalance a big part of the goal is to restore the balance between light and dark

[safe yacht]

You can’t have light without darkness.

[dull fox]

You also can’t have darkness without light tho

[safe yacht]

Exactly.

[broken basin]

Just in sky,

[fast jasper]

i mean they are more to the dark side in this concept

[broken basin]

Irl, you can have darkeness w/o light 😂

Infact, you can have darkeness only in the absence light

But sky's different

[dull fox]

Well if there was never any light in this universe would there even be a concept of darkness?

[safe yacht]

I mean it wouldn’t be dark if light didn’t exist.
If that makes sense.

[dull fox]

The concept of darkness- the absence of light can only exist because we have things which produce light

[safe yacht]

But what are the connected and indifferent?

[broken basin]

I'm not going that deep, Just taking about human experiences and not the universal origins 🗿

[dull fox]

Well even in human experience- if we saw using sound rather than light there would be no darkness to us

Anyways sky

Sorry bout that

[ashen jacinth]

So what's the lore we learn from the completed murals in the Cave of Prophecy?

[civic wave]

Those primitive krills look really interesting

[safe yacht]

That’s cursed.
I’m-
Wait. What if the darkness is literally a curse?

[lost widget]

Wait

[safe yacht]

Like, someone cursed certain creatures and it spread?

[civic wave]

You need someone to curse u

[safe yacht]

Hm?

[lost widget]

I just finished the fire trial and saw all of the cutscenes. Is the dude that got all of the elements the prince/king?

[civic wave]

I saw more as leader not royalty

[lost widget]

Because this is the person that got all of the elements

It looks like the king's mask

[zinc arrow]

huh i never noticed that it is

specifically the prince which is interesting

i thought the fire trial was meant to represent how ancestors dug in caves for technology recourses so it could b

[safe yacht]

Is this black spot is the actual person?
If so would that mean he’s just controlling a huge pillar of something as his body?

[zinc arrow]

no idea! could be

for a very tiny child of light

[lethal stump]

there is a « king mech theory » that the king is actually a mech for the tiny prince

[safe yacht]

Yeah. That’s what it looks like.

[stark oracle]

Hey yall what we talking about

[safe yacht]

King being a mech.

[stark oracle]

Okay well there's something I kinda wanted to talk about after seeing the murals last night

which side note : congrats to everyone who's finished fire trial and good luck to those who haven't

[prisma abyss]

That black thing looks like the prince

So maybe the king was just a disguise and all this time the prince was there?

[stark oracle]

So for a bit we've been mentioning that this season in particular reminds us of Avatar the last Airbender, with the elements and such it makes complete sense (especially if we consider the other places they've drawn inspo from). But one of the murals in particular caught my attention, and it was this one that showed the beam of light. This can be compared to ||eden and the beam of light that we see when we're reborn|| but it also reminds me of the spirit beam within ATLA, which is the portal to the spirit world. Idk if it connected to anything cuz of what I said earlier with ||eden|| but I think its a nice detail

[safe yacht]

Ooh. Yes.

[stark oracle]

Ye

[prisma abyss]

No need to spoiler tag here

[stark oracle]

Ah okay lol I keep forgetting 🙃

[safe yacht]

I guess it’s a good habit to get into.

[stark oracle]

Forreal lol but also another kind of sad detail I noticed

[prisma abyss]

Or maybe it's the king's power that actives the light beam?

Also we can see the beam of light from every realm

[stark oracle]

So we've all seen these darkness plants, very nice very big very luminescent. But have u guys noticed that they only show up in areas of death? Like in GW theyre everywhere because of poison, krill, and the battlefield. I've been thinking about this for a bit cuz a friend asked me why there's no darkness plants in valley, prairie and other places including vault. This can also be seen in forest with crying emotes memories when her friend dies (when they're sitting face to face) and can also be seen where she later dies. I wonder if valley, etc never had darkness plants because of the fact that they were evacuated from those areas when the war came. Because each memory I see from the other places besides the grave site in vault, never seem to be memories of war. As though they were never witnesses to it, but in GW, etc. Death was everywhere, and these darkness plants showed in their place.

Like this darkness plant was in the area where fake death emote fell and died so

[prisma abyss]

There are darkness plants on prairie, on isle

On isle at the cave with the spirit

And at prairie at the bells

[stark oracle]

Oh

Okay

Nvm then

[pale dock]

It’s still a plausible theory tho

[stark oracle]

Yea

[pale dock]

Cause the plants usually mean something’s been corrupted

Like burning the plants on the prairie bells and the bridges in the final area in Forest

So not only signifying death but also the corruption of the spirit’s contraptions

[past comet]

What happened to the grey statue people’s curled up in ||eden||?

[bright relic]

Well, you kind of ||turn into one|| when you ||die|| at the end

[fallen epoch]

Still don't need spoilers, check out the name of the chat #lore-discussion-spoilers

[rancid basalt]

Came here cause there might me awnsers, what are the black smokey bros in fire trial called?

[fallen epoch]

Clearly, we gotta let it have a fish name

[icy sandal]

I saw a few people calling them dust bunnies

[fallen epoch]

So obviously, a blobfish XD

[sturdy moon]

dust bunnies!

[rancid basalt]

They don't really seem like dust to me though

More like smoke

[safe yacht]

Pretty sure they’re called owls.

Some people call them demon worms though.

[rancid basalt]

Hold up those are owls-

[sturdy moon]

oh???

[icy sandal]

How are they owls?

[safe yacht]

Idk.

[fallen epoch]

can we talk about gravity in the trial? clearly the darkness maintains the shape of a sphere, which means there had to have been a center and layers around it. But it worked like a building instead! I want a refund! 😠

[safe yacht]

How are krills shrimp?

[sturdy moon]

they've been called dust bunnies since beta, i believe. Although they did have another nickname, it's been banned though...

[rancid basalt]

well- maybe something sea related since we have mantas, krill and crabs

[fallen epoch]

I suggested blobfish

[icy sandal]

I’m just gonna put this here it’s not mine

[fallen epoch]

well- maybe something sea related since we have mantas, krill and crabs
@rancid basalt Don't forget whales and jellyfish

[rancid basalt]

Oh yeah

they kinda reminded me of eels more than cute bunnies..

[sturdy moon]

honestly i like the name dust bunnies. it makes them seem fluffy.

[icy sandal]

Dust bunnies has a nice ring to it

[rancid basalt]

...fluffy things that want your soul-

[fallen epoch]

Can someone put spirals here?

[rancid basalt]

Eels sound more dangerous like how they actually are. Plus bunnies feel like they belong more in forest and don't really fit in with all the sea creatures.

[fallen epoch]

Shark?

Nah

[bright relic]

owls

[fallen epoch]

I think the idea of blobfish goes well, the shape is extremely similar

[rancid basalt]

E E L

[fallen epoch]

just change the color a bit

and boom

[bright relic]

ew

[peak ore]

#sky-memes ?

[fallen epoch]

Nahhhh

#seasons-events-chat

[rancid basalt]

Sky memes is for memes bro

[bright relic]

please no, i don't want scary darkness blobfish flying at me

[rancid basalt]

eels sound betterrr

[fallen epoch]

It isn't flying

it was on its belly

[rancid basalt]

They do fly though???

[peak ore]

I mean is more for a joke than to represent a real soot :v

[trail echo]

they fly cuz a i r

i guess lol

[fallen epoch]

That don't look like that

[rancid basalt]

and krills arnt long,black and have 1 eye

[near moss]

i thought htey looked like caterpillars tbh

Krill really look like Krill tho

[fallen epoch]

Guys, I figured it out

[rancid basalt]

[fallen epoch]

What is the one sea creature that has two glowing eyes and a big body?

[near moss]

uh

what

[sturdy moon]

me

[rancid basalt]

what

[near moss]

Ice Cream??

[sturdy moon]

wrong picture?

[icy sandal]

Um?

[rancid basalt]

Uh- what

[fallen epoch]

Actually, that did give me an idea

glowing eyes

[sturdy moon]

that doesnt look like them at all

[rancid basalt]

we gotta remember that thing doesn't have limbs tho

[sturdy moon]

that looks like me on a saturday

[rancid basalt]

Cause I ain't see no limbs

[safe yacht]

Maybe they’re called owls because the big eye and the sound they make.

Also they fly.

[rancid basalt]

why must tgc make this so confusinggg

[bright relic]

yesss bookloverinsomnia

[rancid basalt]

PLEASE JUST GIVE US AN OFFICIAL NAME

[fallen epoch]

I'd like to shut down the possibility of any non-marine creatures. Only because tgc loves using the design of sea creatures

[near moss]

but bird

[peak ore]

I like the comparison to owls