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Charcoal-y texture
Nono
It's in one of the concepts
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Is to say why was eden created,and if it was made by the king/prince what triggered them to go haywire and make it
eden
Eden was probably created after the elders fell from orbit.
Pom
/before or after
yes-?
/do we know?
I’m scared AA-
Abt the All might n Deku thing
Im making a bnha sky au, wanna see the doodles so far?
yes
lore
Guess you both better take this to dms 
I'll dm them to u
Eden was made on top of a mountain
Which according to concepts was the place of a beacon
the holy land
Was there something triggering (possible the king,elder or prince-)
I assume the diamond was placed on top of the beacon
/the holy water in the holy land
To make them evil? or in better words turn eden into a hecc trap
why’d you laugh jen ?
Got me thinking
The rocks in Eden, they go and stop at certain times
It could be game mechanic, but if not I wonder if someone is secretly controlling them? Or the harsh winds are always at the same speed thus taking the rocks and spinning em around all of Eden to make it look like its timed?? Idk man I'm tryna sound like I know stuff
Honestly I kinda agree
/sorry sth about the word holy makes me chuckle
uhh the lightning--
I feel like there is some sort of someone up there trying to kill everyone that comes by,thus having the rocks being killed on you and the “fallen ones”
Krills are living creatures
Rocks are rocks
A theory i like to believe is that the thunder causes the rock storm itself
Krill are dragons
Eden causes the storm
Hmm
Why do they call it the eye of eden?
Skykids are actually candles. Thoughts:?
broken stuff makes flying rocks
Yet it is always timed exactly each time it passes
Hmm
it’s the eye of the storm
why didn’t I think of-
Bc it both eye of storm and eye of sauron
sorry brainfart in process
Eye of eden, who would've thought
ikr-
Also, you know the eye of god in the triangle? Well instead it a diamond
The eye is trying to kill us by throwing rocks at us
I mean, it’s much older than that
Like. Ancient catholic and sects and such
Gifbe someone actually had enough wings left to try??
but if u could spooky, it would go:MY EYE!!!
ive gone up to it, nothing happens
The Eye of Eden is very likely to be artificial, knowing it's a power diamond which is the latest form of technology in the Sky kingdom.
...like in lego batman
And the floor is actually lava too
If I hit the eye,would it just get mad and crush me
Fun fact : The eye is already broken
It would glare at you
Then get mad and crush you
It would blink you out of existence
It's a fractured power diamond
/the eyee of the storm is actually the safest place tho fun fact
We're joking goob
Yeee is the peace with least wind
/the eyee of the storm is actually the safest place tho fun fact
Do explain?
/it'ss how english works
Like, the call in the middle of the storm
/the eyee of the storm is actually the safest place tho fun fact
Yea but impossible to get there
/i have no idea why
What part of the conversation-
What if there was a secret ending to the game? Of course I’m not implying it but what if you play in a certain order to destroy the eye of eden?
Or maybe it is possible idk
Like see a tornado?
In an actual real-life storm system, the eye of the storm is the safest place in it.
It’s a cilinder
/that;s fanfic territory pom
We can reach the eye,but uh
That’s a lotta bug to achieve that
Least wind and least extreme air pressure
But we see the storm area in like
A straight line
So middle is safe
also fun fact, eye of eden in japanese is called « original sin »
We can’t see what’s behind the Eden crystal
So is the Eden crystal the center
Or is it a far side of the storm
also fun fact, eye of eden in japanese is called « original sin »
@lethal stump doom soundtrack plays
also fun fact, eye of eden in japanese is called « original sin »
That sounds
Ominous
...isn’t it the ruins falling apart with the clouds and the jellies?

That’s orbit,wayyy above
Like, the great structures of the past that were so much hubris
the castle ?
Nooo orbit is the blue stars place
Do the different calls work as different languages
also fun fact, eye of eden in japanese is called « original sin »
@lethal stump always the Japanese
They get cool names sksksk
The ruins are in between
The eden castle?
I think that part is called orbit already
Mmmh
it’s ascent
Oh ok
Ye you fly up afterwards
yea
But imo
/ original sin seems like a band name
orbit is the glowy place where aurora starts singing
yea
When the eye of eden was made,how did it start?, like was the eye of eden safe before it turned evil(by its possibly owner?)
Eden castle,the direct center of the storm
The castle could very much be the “origin of sin”
*original
Hmm
Like
Looking from above
Where is that disasterous Eden
original sin is a weird and incorrect name
it’s biblical
/it's japanese
I would tend to think that “original sin” would be less about it being the actual origin of all sin and more about the biblical implications of defying god
it’s in reference to the garden of eden, where the first sin was committed
Darkness is one thing
hmm
it’s in reference to the garden of eden, where the first sin was committed
@lethal stump didn’t know that,nice
Because red is scary and angery
/most dark things in game be blue
It used to be blue
/seal really?
most players think
blue = safety
thus the crystals are red
they used to be blue in pre-launch, but i think people thought the crystals weren’t bad because of that
You cant defy god more than putting a giant power diamond directly on top of a holy beacon
/king be t-posing
And it also gives a whole new meaning to "me and the bois disturbing local wildlife" since the Beacon was a vital part of their rebirth cycle
king @ megan: FRICK YOU MOM
GET IN THE ROOM KING
And it also gives a whole new meaning to "me and the bois disturbing local wildlife" since the Beacon was a vital part of their rebirth cycle
@kind bobcat hehe
Yeah I basically see the Eden diamond as the king saying “yo Megan come at me bro”
... and then Megan really does it(?)
i have to draw that thank you
I have a heavy feeling that the eye of eden was triggered by someone
Probs not tho
GET IN THE ROOM KING
/yall is this why he be in the dark room
maybe megan triggered the explosion/storm cause she was upset with the sky kingdom’s hubris
he's grounded
Uh
king: mom pick me up i’m scared
Megan:no you still have to do chores
/YOU"RE GROUNDED KINg
King:AAAAAAAAAAAAAA eden sounds
what does this have to do with lore-
I love how most of these aligns with my theory
Yeh I was gonna say too it seems like a pretty classic “hubris of man” story, supposing that that’s how it actually went down, but I’m still not sure whether it fits better for the big kablammo in Eden to be the king’s own fault or something set off by the megabird
THIS.IS.IMPORTANT
both options could be appropriate/poetic in their own sense, dropman
/megan was bad parent anyways
And king said screw that imma make that storm bigger just to spite you
/edgy teenager king
Megan has a lot of work ok
/did she killed them or did they bonk into there at will?
Oh
I have this from the rain in Forest to extinguish the fire conversation
So she makes a storm that goes everywhere to throw water because fire and lives and stuff
Then Eden just create way too many negative things to the environment
So the storm there is the biggest
Then it turned into this big storm that never ends we see today
Ok I’m done
Oh no I killed the chat
/do please explain again seal
So she makes a storm that goes everywhere to throw water because fire and lives and stuff
/what does this mean>
TLDR:
Megan created a storm to revive the environment because people are destroying it
Then Eden was damaged the most
If the game is all about the circle of life and how you reborn,is there no ending to the game because we reborn?
So the storm there was the biggest
/so you be saying the storm was suppose to fixx things
But Eden is beyond repair so the storm gets bigger and never ends
If the game is all about the circle of life and how you reborn,is there no ending to the game because we reborn?
@hushed steeple full circle
Yeah my theories never really make sense so
Making a storm which destroys things while trying to save the environment
The storm before were smol
You know what
Change it to rain
More rain then turn into storm
because of one person so many people and children dIED
/yes
Yep that’s the king for ya
/megan and/or king according to lore chat
makes perfect sense
Do you guys think the castle is high enough to reach under the last area before we reborn? I just realize that area is literally the sun for sky realms...
or maybe the castle is the sun??
I wonder how did the war start at golden wasteland. What did the elders fight? An army of darkness?🤔
What was the theory?
it’s in the theory doc
Okie i will check it out
/hmm
factories
/i think oil since the rainbow-ish color
/buuut if it be oil it would caught fire very easily
/mighte be the factories, the war? or disease or anything really
Does anyone know where this concept art come from ?

/oooh that's not in the tomzhao websites??????
/newwwww
/looks like the elders talking to us???
/but if anything, most concept arts are from TomZhao
where did you find that,,
Since when have these pretties been here and where can I find them
/what pretties
most concept art that we have are from tom zhao's website in the pins, and there's more bits of concept art as well there
/yea but the floating elder head is definitely not in the website
yeah that's what i meant
there are other links for collections of concept art as well though i'm not sure if that certain picture is here
/am curios what they had in mind with that art of floating elder head
Is there a website or sth with all the concept art for sky? Idk if I should ask here or in the questions channel xd
/ the lizard man is important, he made a band, search that up in beta discussion
Prophercy cave seems like a cave for the spirits to learn about everything before they go into the real world.
All of the spirits seems like a teacher to them? Idkifthishasbeendiscuss
/
the lizard man is important, he made a band, search that up in beta discussion
@gilded fossil
Lizardman?👀👀
/thats the only one i know
It's perfect thank you!
Also DAMN imagine having this hair in sky
THAT WILL BE MAJESTIC
My chibi friend has the forest elder hair and whenever we go to sanctuary or anywhere wimdy her hair just goes sloop
So imagine that hair in eden
😲
I love how
bangs goes down as i ride the vault elevator
Lore time
I wonder if the 2 valley race represent each of the twin?🤔
Like 2 diff race but u still end up at the same place in the finish line
I don't think so they both are the same there's not much signs of each of them in the races
But it can be possible
Right?; i always think that. Why two race
But then mybe thats how valley is
I mean, maybe some people didn't like just one kind of race and asked for another?
So they made the flying race and joined it to be sliding near the end
But how do they race?
/did they race at all
Flying kayaks 
Some have capes some don't, maybe that's why?
/i see sth happened like an avalanche
Spirits I mean
/the flying housses for the rich, but ancestors couldnt fly, cape be pretty iirc
In the flying race there should be some signs that it maybe was a sliding race as last time but was covered in the clouds therefore it cant be undone so they just took advantage of it
Oh so capes were just accessories?
What is this channel for? Lore discussion? What does this mean?
Lore.
/back story!
For theories and discussing of Sky history
/lore= storry and facts and all that stuff
Ahh okayy
/history and geography, physics
Lore moff doc 
/would like a lore moff doc??
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Wonder if anyone actually did try and measure the realms since last time we talked about it-
Measure as in what kind of measuring?
Like how big?
/we tried measuring realms size, but no one actually got to do it
Yeah
And it's ok Jen, I was just curious, didn't think anyone would take me seriously
/okay now i feeel bad
Noooo its fine, really! 
/i mite have to wait till sat to actually gather people
So daleth is originally isle elder name🤔
Snsjsjsn but now somehow is valley elder name
Interesting
I knew daleth felt familiar-
huh
/ fiqa some community goes with different names!
Like not canon
It's messy many people will have their own names for them
Also yeah they all fanon names
/ fiqa some community goes with different names!
@gilded fossil
Ohh i see;
kakashi and dora
/if you ever hear someone fangirling over daleth, that;s the valley elder, and not isle
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@gilded fossil
Thanks!
Sam and Ekh
Me at alef n daleth
Imagine fan girling over isle elder
/ @glass copper reminder! dont quote long messages next time
Back to topic 👏
Alef is a fanon prince name sounds perfect for my fav elder
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In the flying race there should be some signs that it maybe was a sliding race as last time but was covered in the clouds therefore it cant be undone so they just took advantage of it
Just imo
That actually sounds interesting
"damn the sky dam broke and flooded the race w clouds, what do we do :/"
"cloud race"
"what,,,"
"you heard me, CLOUD RACE."
/ ~~the dude making flying housses: I dont get payed enough for this smh
probably thats where anti gravity spell is made👀
👀
/oooh tru tru
The merchant at ark. Goes to valley fly race and creates the spell and sells it

Stonks
he's Rich
...i was about to say there be no money in sky but
Maybe they use the elements to made floating house
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Well imo those buildings are floating there by some kind of advance mechanism... Not any kind of spells or magic... I noticed all buildings have a powered diamond beneath those
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sad this still can't confirm what darkness plants actually are since it is from LA
Dark blooms sound fancy
i was mainly intrigued by "corruption"
Tomcepts
Sorry but somebody has the map of edén complete with the bug included?
Corruption but physical form?
corruption hints a lot at what they actually are or represent, but i don't think it can be considered canon anymore unfortunately
it’s in the pins of #eden-spoilers
that’s a question google can answer
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ok this is gonna be real long-winded but. eden means like “original sin” right?? the christian/catholic original sin was knowledge. the vault elder seems to be the keeper of the vault’s contents??? idk what im trying to get at here but maybe the vault elder and the king had some tie to each other?? esp because of how the hair on the statues around sky have a similar hairstyle to the vault elder’s... maybe the vault elder and the king were related??? and those statues are memorials to the king????????
im bad at explaining things so sorry if this is all over the place
Eden isn’t the original sin,that’s once Adam and Eve are the apple of knowledge,Eden is the sin free place they lived in before they got evicted
Like, the vault of knowledge is a means to keep all the knowledge accumulated, and the statues are to keep the souls of every fallen moth? So the Vault Elder would be the ultimate keeper in a way?
Sky does have some things that semi resemble things that happened in the Bible (Elders falling,satan falling) but I don’t think most of that is intentional,I’ll pull up the definition of Eden for you
Eden isn’t the original sin,that’s once Adam and Eve are the apple of knowledge,Eden is the sin free place they lived in before they got evicted
@scenic hedge Maybe that's why moths go into Eden; to make it become the sin free place it should be? But then they fail everytime and are only reborn without their knowledge (winged light)
Although Eden is a place in the Bible is this content it’s more used to describe orbit,whilst actual Eden(the mountain) is a sort of ladder to actual Eden
Eden isn’t the original sin,that’s once Adam and Eve are the apple of knowledge,Eden is the sin free place they lived in before they got evicted
I think Amyreo was referencing that in the JP translation eden is called "Original Sin"
*the eden in-game not in the Bible
Um yeah I didn't know that x) But the point still stands
although eden originally means delight and pleasure, in popular western culture it’s heavily associated with the biblical garden of eden
put together the eden elder mural eating something (the apple, perhaps ?), the japanese title being « original sin », and the english title being « eye of eden », i’m 99.99% sure that this is meant to be a biblical reference
and regarding thé original sin, thats rather vague
some people believe it’s pride, or hubris, or knowledge, or disobedience, what have you, so just like sky lore, the « original sin » is left vague
#lore-discussion-spoilers message some more discussions
from jp translation, i guess the place is named eden in the sense that it is where all the mess started rather than being a former paradise. if it is a paradise it cant be literally like the biblical eden but a paradise according what the citizens define as paradisal at that time- technological advance, a place to look for jobs, etc...
eden: hellish darkness noises
ancestors: paradise :DD
also i hc the fact that its called Eye of Eden shows it’s not the entirety of eden, which is why we can only see pipes and krills lurking about. it does not show citizens’ residence because our destination isnt near a city but ... the king’s “palace” or smth (i daresay the whole point of sky is a trip to the white house, which is no reason to show residence at all)
well eden at that time isnt some hellish darkness noise but rather filled with advanced technology, which we know might b darkness potentially, but not to them
warped perceptions go brr
I like where you’re going with this.
considering how massive the palace is in ascent, i feel like it alone could house like half a million people
especially considering we don’t even see all of it
imagining how big the rest of the eden civilization might be is
damn
luckily that doesnt have to b shown at us bc i guess our destination isnt meant to be near a densely populated city
ngl i wish we could see more of the actual civilization parts of the civilization but rip anthropology i guess
I don’t think skids leave Eden because they fail tho
More like they have to re-accomplish their mission in freeing souls of their ancestors again in their next life
Because they are created for that?
Hello folks i am back NOW is it time for LORE! So what have i missed? Btw sorry for interupting
we’re talking about eden
Oh grand
Biblical reference in sky
ooooooohhhh the low hanging fruit but thefruit whit the most consentrated juice
I’m very interested in this topic
Well then anyone though about the fact that krill look a heck of a lot like snakes and whomst whas it who doomed man kind and all that? A snake!
and what is in abundence in eden? Krill
how do they look like snakes ?
TUBES
and thare hair type leg thingis look like the sharp scales on some snake spicice
I think that they look like shrimps tho 🤔
They look like tubes a lot of animals look are tube shaped
krills have a carapace, they aren’t even reptiles, they’re insects
really. massive. insects.
Also they only apear in gw and eden and gw is a wastland
A sandy wasteland
Well im not argueing they are reptilien im just saying they are fat flying tubes and live in eden cuse destruktionen and are ”evil” so if we are talking biblical refrences and all that i think its just a neat observasio
N
Yes yours is an interesting theory as well
They are however 100% shrimp
Oooooo.

sea insect
but krills are called dragons?
Yes and asian dragons are just hairy snakes
how long did adam & eve live in eden but anyway
there’s no clear timeframe for the bible, really
aside from mentioning historical people or events
Are krill confirmed to be organic?
but as far as archéologues know, adam & eve as well as the garden have zero historical record outside of myths
also no, we have basically zero confirmed info on krills
funnily enough krills are called dragons
Ah good so war machine belief is still possible
And omen of death is too
few
but back to other stuf about the big j and his bois and his fathers novell
diditxtsitfitxtixi
Is eden called eden coz its closet to space wicth is skys version of a heven and eden is ”gods garden” and all that so its gota be closeish to heven itself?
Idk im just typeing out of my nonexistent bum here
Oh possible!
That’s why there are krills near Eden
So you got my comments about snakes or somthing esle?
Like are they guardiens of holysites or evil basterd bois
i just think they’re apex predators
Well yes
Imean look at em

Thats the face of a cold blooded killer right there
and a vary hungery tube
Oh shoot now we are back to krills my bad
Krills and Eden, they’re closely related anyways
You can only get to Eden when you are not killed by Krills straightaway before the Point of no return
Which is really rude like bro I’m just tryna do my job here
they just siphon out your soul
hey lore chat I have a question to ask
can you guys give me some ideas for a "corrupted" spider? here's the light one I've drawn for reference
maybe #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat would be better for you ?
spikey, dark body, blue eyes, perhaps ?
Maybe stoned over a bit? Like in Eden?
Oooo and inverse the color pallets to rlly contrast it
hmm
Oh and and make the light one “soft” like airbrush it then make the dark one look hard or cracked with sharp edges
Lol I’m getting carried away xD
canon lore?
fan-made stuff can’t be canon, lamb
these spiders spend they're whole lives transversing the realms of sky and weave elaborate murals of what they see on a tapestry that's draped over the back of the spider. they are very curious creatures and try to see everything possible, some sky ancestors believe that they where the inspiration behind other murals scattered along sky, while others believe that the murals are from the spiders themselves. but the spiders are long past and no one knows for sure...

what y'all think?
yeah, I didn't register the "made lore" part in time
hahaha
wait wait, so you are essentially saying they weave silk of light?
The only thing that seems wrong is that all the other creatures of light can fly
Spiders can kinda float and/or jump but not rlly fly
how do you expect me to make a spider fly?(no really I want to know)
jellyfish is kind of an exception
also I plan to do this stuff with all the prophecy creatures masks
Oooo I love fan made stuff
the whurtle will probably be one of the easier ones to draw cause I can look at the skeletons
I don't think they are sky creatures, they may be celestial beings like the megabird, but do continue your intepretation
hmm
Maybe they are sort of half-light creatures? Like, they will never be full creatures of light but refuse to be like krill and crabs
So they just draw depictions of the light’s lives
also if you can zoom in enough on the back I did do some work on the tapestry
I can zoom in if you need
Spider who??
Spiderman
a drawing I did scroll up
Will it have a story for it?
can someone send a picture of the four entrance murals again?
it sorta does meowphecy if you find my small text wall
Okay. That’s a very fancy spider.
thank you
So instead of web, they draw murals?
mhm
that's what I think anyways
oh god I forgot to give something for scale
should I use a crab for scale?
Yes.
alright brb
So, there is a possibility of other animals and insects. Like turtle and spider from prophet’s mask. Maybe the others went extinct like ancestors.
cræb for scale (of how big i think they where)
That's big lmao
Maybe the size of crab
what can you talk about here?
sky lore 
if it’s lore ? sure
about this scene specifically
a little far fetched but
yknow how you hug? my question to this is, would you be hugging your past self goodbye?
if you think about it, you never see that old self again becuase as you're reborn you usually have no wings afterwards as a result and you come back home as a star before landing on home
they always wake up a little confused
I'd also be making those expressions if I was hurled back to earth as a shooting star
are the four masks of the prophet confirmed to be turtle, spider, bat, lion?
yes
I just wasted two hours then

maybe power crystals are related to the dark plants
the plants absorb light similar to the crystals and theyre both similar in color
and also the plants sorta vanish after enough light so it would make sense as to why the crystals dont stay lit like other sources of light
Oh uh I thought the masks were hare for bat, goat for turtle, and tiger for fire >.< lol
The actual masks make a lot more sense xD
is the halo around eden a sun dog or a 22° halo strictly speaking? aren't they technically the same thing?
from some research I it did seems like the sun dog are the thicker parts of the halo and the 22° is the arc part of the halo, I hope that makes sense because I couldn't find a better way to describe it
so like
something interesting about sun/moon halos
it says this
"A halo around the sun is a fairly common phenomenon. It is typically caused when there are very high, very thin clouds. These clouds, being so high in the sky, are made from ice crystals. ... Since high clouds typically proceed unsettled weather, it is said a halo around the sun or moon means rain or snow is on the way."
this particular phenomenon is thought to proceed things like storms
like the eden storm 
What's strange is that the halo can also be found around winged lights, and spirits to an extent
hey yall
just got back from being reborn and i got some cool pics that clearly reveal somthin about the rebirth door
there’s gonna be lotsa pics so please don’t mind the spam
it has megabird on it
Holy
How did you get that table on it
And yeah, definitely megabird. That's a great find!
lots of effort
I can't see the rebirth gate
are you on the other side of it?
also light tendrils 
some other thoughts:
- when the fallen return to the stars, they have halos/sun dogs around them. halos in this game are commonly a beckoning symbol. are we being called to the stars, but cannot join them ?
- the elders are not shown being stars, rather when we summon the elders they summon a star themselves
- elders are basically ghosts, they can be walked through like spirits, they just look solid
also no this is the front of the portal thing
idk how to, i only got the table today :p
oh
ask spearmonkey
he/she is an expert
I have no idea how to do it myself, but there are different variations I think
Lmao it just sits there and lies in wait
Heya guys been awhile but I wanted to ask about a recent lore idea I've had
So for a bit I've seen people constantly bring up the kids that we save from |eden| and how they look like us, with the cape and all along with the fact that they have a similar silhouette to that of a moth when we start
(Also idk how to spoiler censor photos so ill leave it out)
no need to spoiler here
I noticed their cape doesn't have the segmented feather-like thing like default cape does (idk how to English sorry)
Anyways so the idea i was having is that what if they were just like us? It would make sense as they look like us, but they were the children of the society before it fell. But because of the fact that they were all herded into one area (eden) for their own safety, because they were the last light the society had. But they ended up getting overtaken anyway, and I noticed too that before you give a light away to them. We look identical to them when we're also passing
Idk if that makes sense 😕
@hybrid oxide yeah! I was kinda thinking about that too, and the most I thought was that maybe that was the cape style of their time?
Ah! I meant like the children of the society before it fell
Yes? I was kinda theorizing that they also came from the stars just like us, since that's the place we return them to yknow
Ye
I have another theory on them but idk how to word it lol
@hushed steeple what's that??
are you new to lore, is basically what’s being asked
what segmentation?
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GOOD EVENING LORE CHAT 
Elloooo
Secret concept art I've never seen before …
What is this
Option 2 resembles what happens at the end of spirit memory
where are you getting these from 
you can find it in this album - https://imgur.com/a/9T4PmQC linked in the pins
2nd to last pinned, under "A collection of concept art, promotional images and early development screenshots shared by TGC"
so much juicy stuff in pinned messages
i was having a field day
Me reading the theories😳😳
i love theories
o man it's been a while since i read the all the links
thanks!
does anyone want a long paragraph of a theory i made during CR-
send it 
okay-
So you know how each season's pendant glows when the season starts right? And the glow wears off when its about to end, but why doesn't the season of prophecy pendant glow? Is the season all just an exhibit? What if the cave was long gone and forgotten until now, they left marks on the walls of history and stuff so that could be it but what if because it was long gone, they had to force extra spirits and they are forced to be "prophets"? We never saw the eden elder and we most likely wont because maybe he is doing all this, forcing the spirits, and making them puppets. * im also guessing the eden elder is a he for no reason ok * As he does all this, he wants to make sure to not be interrupted and put the eden storm so it will make it harder for them to reach him, but in the end we cannot reach him, thus he is still hidden away and controlling events such as seasons in peace. And maybe the reason why the vault elder looks sad is because the vault of knowledge, it contains, well, knowledge, he knows. He knows this, and also the spirits in vault know this too so he has to trap every single one of the spirits so neither will realize something odd or something else happened because he has stopped their living, but we can experience their memories because its like a museum or exhibit. And each of the realms need light right? WE are the light so when we step onto the realms, we give off light without knowing that we are, the wax and candles is all fake, its just something to get you to step into the realms. When we go through eden, we get brainwashed to think that candles and wax do something. They are making us buy things and work hard for it, like we work hard for the eden elder and we glorify and praise him even though we dont know he exists, and he wants that to happen so we wont happen to interrupt him during his controlling and stuff.
Conclusion:
you are not immune to propaganda
@brave bronze ngl your pfp looks familiar but i forgot his name-
it's existential crisis hours 
@brave bronze ngl your pfp looks familiar but i forgot his name-
@bitter shale it is quackity
i think you'd be happy to know we all hate the eden elder
oooh
been a while since i last watch his vids
yeet
at least, if you see the eden elder as the king
then yes we all hate the king and though we spread his propaganda
Did the king reincarnate as eden gate
mostly believed that he wasn't good and he led the kingdom to destruction
ive been thinking what if this whole thing is to fuel the perpetuation the king caused? or further we are manipulated by him to fuel it by believing that our acts are all out of kindness and will have positive impacts, when the actual impact is unknown
its like that trope when hero successfully destroys something and inadvertently makes the villain stronger
hmm
The prophercy symbol is similar to the light we go as we honk. Does that mean we are following the prophercy all along🤔
What if-
Ah you beat me to it 😂
dundundun
Second coming of the king? 
More like second coming of the child of light

yeah i agree with what flos said
We can conclude that there was at least a child of light long before us, as shown by the wls scattered across 7 realms
As shown by the mural in prophecy cave too
i thimk that golden kiddo is the col we see in the intro
Indeed
All the way from isle?
Ooh
The og col?
The choosen one🤔
Huh, that boat one
I never see that before
that is the child of light we apparently have a relationship with (stated in a japanese livestream)
The boat murals is after which trial?
the kid on the boat isn't supposed to be there
I don't remember it having that yellow glow
Ah
eden elder holds sky kid^ 
have yall read the lore moff doc? 
Partly
i’m still pecking through it 
i did.
😳but i would read it again
@lofty swallow after water trial
@lofty swallow after water trial
@bitter shale
OHhh i should take a look at it later
After water trial
I haven't check again after earth trial tho
I was distracted with the whole ded ppl on trial in the mural
Who are the 5 waving bye bye to golden boi-
might be the prophets + isle elder
After water trial
I haven't check again after earth trial tho
I was distracted with the whole ded ppl on trial in the mural
@hybrid oxide the wHAT PEOPLE???????
Oh those ppl lying down on the earth trial mural
Each trial has 2 ded people
BRUH

i prefer to think of them as embracing the ground in defeat
Maybe yes
they r simply.. smooching the earth... they gotta get their minerals yknow 

My first impression was
"Are those dead skykids?"
Yknow, because we die a lot of times doing the trial 😂😂

so those aren't sky kids
That's why I said, "first impression"
I thought that to at first lol
im supposed to be fixing my lunch for tomorrow but this rabbit hole just keeps going oml...
Go fix your lunch
could be concept art tributes
it might be the same for the rest of the temples as well
Kitsune mask-
Ngl I like this kitsune mask-
i thought it was a lynx
More than diamond mask-
or was that teth's animal form 
Teth used to carry umbrella
imagine if teth's ultimate gift is the umbrella-
Teth has an animal form-


it's a lynx i think
Combination of lynx and kitsune
Oooh mama lynx
Mama forest
Mama teth
looks like a kyuubi ngl
Vault was crow, If I'm not mistaken
Not sure abt the rest
haha spider tsadi
Ooh almost forgot Spider Tsadi
i would love to see it in sky ngl
Naruto feels
also
teth's friend

Thanks for the spider mask, TGC
The twins were the only humanoid ones?
How about Prairie?
yes
the outfits
always has beeen
always has been
the detailed outfits
is their outfits one with their bodies or can they put it off
its like their cape
is their outfits one with their bodies or can they put it off
Why r u wondering if they can pull it off![]()
among the 7 elders, valley twins are the one who looks like the most with skids in concept art
they even got cape like skid
in that concept art all of them have similar clothing design tho
i think it's more of their body shape lol
ye s
triangles shape 
i bet their clothes feel like the most silky smooth fabric on the planet
if you see skids = eden elder = king that looks like a shot of all the elders together
ooor feel like a carpet
illuminati confirmed

Illuminati confirmed
skylluminati comfirmed



oh, teth in the concept art is not the shortest one
Ohgod what is this about illuminati 
Triangle everywhere

I wonder why valley elders mask isnt available for us
When #Halloween season starts? 🦇

@bitter shale it is quackity
No pings
I wonder why valley elders mask isnt available for us
I think cuz normal spirits have some of them? Like Dora hair is valley elder and the hands on hips stance from valley has it?
Also, went to Eden again today and the cutscene where the statues come to life and fly up-
They appear to have those slits on their capes like us
I didn't take screenshots but remembered this channel when I noticed
Shower thought: prairie represents childhood, so does sanctuary represents how young kids are always safe under protection of parents and can just enjoy life without few responsibilities? (Spirits taking a vacation and being able to relax)
so, dOeS tHaT mEaN eVeN mAp eXpAnSiOnS hAvE dEeP mEaNiNgS aBoUt liFe
Since isle is basically birth. Being a newborn means having a lot of challenges and needing to adapt to an absolutely different environment, which is like trials. When a life is born, people often have many expectations or try to imagine and foresee the future of the little person, which is prophecy.

Skybrah fun fact #173: sneep is an important part of your daily routine—you spend about one-third of your time doing it! 
@hushed steeple Here is my thought on it:
If you look carefully, the area with the first krill is very similar to forest temple. So it used to be a diamond forgery initially. And the golden wasteland was actually golden back then. The eden explosion is what caused the 'waste'land to occur.
Oml this is-
I had 2.5 hours of sleep yesterday ;-;
The krills were created from the dark matter that was spouted from the explosion
The center of the explosion being the big red diamond we see in storm lock
Why are the krills still linger around?
Ark is in wasteland (middle age crisis) because it represents how people are usually lost at this time, and desire for more (magic power in ark, ability to change things in reality) because that's when people starts to lose a lot of precious things, like people
man I'm never around when this chat comes to life XD
I've heard a rumour that mods don't know what sneep snorp is because they're always here 
good for the I M A G I N A T I O N
sneep makes you sane
@queen locust yes but essays took my sneep away ;-;
if it does that to you it probably isn't even worth doing
Anywho- I see we're talking red diamonds
I can't get my IB diploma if I don't write my essays
oof- sorry for the assumption then

By the way- about that stages of life thing- would Sanctuary then be a metaphor for a safe space or something
Or simply an unforgettable childhood memory because of it's location in Prairie
if these are stages of life, what are they to us after rebirth
Recollections maybe?
or maybe we really did just die and are forced to go through all that again
With every rebirth we get stronger
rebirth means start over isn't it
we still have all of our memories and stuff tho right?
imagine if we were actually just being sent back in time
Rebirth is where the real journey begins.why do we go Eden every week?
If you look carefully, the area with the first krill is very similar to forest temple. So it used to be a diamond forgery initially. And the golden wasteland was actually golden back then. The eden explosion is what caused the 'waste'land to occur.
THE FIRST TIME I NOTICED THIS I LOST MY MIND AAAAAAAAA
And we can get the Arc to restore to its normal form by completing quest
why there is diffrent coloured lanterns
because why not

well you are not wrong either-
but can the lighter one meant to be the newest?
yknow what i mean-
And then they taught us 
/yall hi anyone have megan pics
/hey uh is res here i have question how often do we hear piano played in the game?
hiya folks watcha all doing
why there is diffrent coloured lanterns
@bitter shale lighting?
Why are you interested in these lanterns
@lyric rune hey.....u a moff?
searching for tarkin pic...
there...
imma leave this here for ppl to see...
/duck's not a moff and iss that pic related?
/uh not a sky moff
/eh i'm setting a horrible example ill delete the meme
/i would like to summon res tbh i have questions about leitmotif. yall do ping me when she here alrite?
@bitter shale I think the lighter lanterns were perhaps once meant to be activated. In the lowest level of vault, there are similar, lighter lanterns that float down when the standing lanterns are lit. My theory is that these six were meant to float down once all six seats at the table in that room were occupied, perhaps leading to a special area like prairie’s 8 person puzzle. 
@gilded fossil Piano gets played several times
The ending when you reach the ice rink in valley.
The butterfly spirit
And the stormlock soundtrack
There might be more i'm unaware of
But i think prophecy spirits also have piano tracks in their ost
Grill hasn't been in the lore chat in a whiek
man this is pretty interresting
MONOKUMA
There might be more i'm unaware of
@kind bobcat how could you forget the credits song
oH
UHHhh
i haven't been to eden in three months?
Is that a valid excuse?
Also yes, credit song
And ascension
the ascension song is just vocalizing with brass and percussion, no piano
but when you get out of the eden castle that’s when the piano starts
Man i really have to visit eden more
/hurrrrgh it's played while butterfly spirit
/i was thinking the piano meant to represent " grounded-ness" in contrast to all the wind instruments
there's a lot of piano music in prairie
and gw kinda has more wind instruments i think
/oh no that ruins my theory even more
maybe piano represents... i dunno... brighter atmosphere?
/maybeeee
/ i can only hear krill and krebs in wasteland tho
@lyric rune hey.....u a moff?
@hushed steeple no, im not a moth
or moff
idk im not an animal
But your name is duck-
i
But your name is duck-
@frail hearth oof
wait is duck a moff-
^^^
i mean, we physically shudder/react when we rip the light out of our chest. it looks painful
/ we can't test cause the skids in a game butttt
ah idk why if we got ripped the lights out of us don't reallt feelpain
but we got hit without got ripped feels pain
It just like that skykids have the lives just like cat but now they reached 146 lives...
idk why i thought bout that since i got hit by krill multiple times without home glitch and didn't lose any light lmao
when you use the point emote in midair and jab a krill in the eye
oof that's one big ouch lMAO
more ouch for me, it hit me XD
AJHDJHDJA
That look like a precious pearl
but then it got attracted to me somehow and I had to hide in the pipes for ten minutes

cough lore
sorry
/yes
what are the elders...?
loar
skykids but old
they’re stars
maybe
/nah
w o t
elders are ded but actually no
Does cat feel pain when the lives reduced to eight? If they did, maybe skykids too...
how to got hit by krill without home glith=ch and not lose light use other peps beside u to be it's main bait and go in front of em let le krill hjONk u
so uh do we really feel pain tho
skykids don’t grow into elders
elders are skykids that took too many resize potions at once
they were always elders
or huge spell maybe
actually, dragonism
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They consumed that powerstone and be a big guy
this has links to documents that answer your questions
also is there lore about how the chibi spirit is still tol even when she/he wears a chib mask
elders are skykids that took too many resize potions at once
@vapid bobcat
maybe chibi spirit is super extra tol, and her current size is her chibi state
Uuu nezuko reference.....
maybe chibi spirit is super extra tol, and her current size is her chibi state
@vapid bobcat
Using chib mask as that bamboo thing
what happens if we swallow a red rock
we explode
/uh dont
maybe
i wanna try they look delicious
wait I have a theory 👀
in game if you touch a large red rock you lose all your light
Maybe we gonna die and evo to dark skykids
if red rocks absorb your light, and you eat it, the light will stay inside the rock, inside you, and if the light tries to go out, the rock will grab it back
/pft forbidden apple
Yeah
/imagine trying to eat the red rock
it would be yummy
The light tries to go out you mean like we try to give it to the statue but we can't?
That rock grab it back?
The light trapped inside forever?
red rock sided with eden mud water mmm
Ehmmm
slurp
(That's definitely delicious)
Dhmmm loring about what?







