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#lore-discussion-spoilers
grand swift
shadow kindle
yes sort of
grand swift
can u show me a picture
shadow kindle
1 sec
i have a pic of one, trying to find the second one
I thought it was just a symbol unique to one realm until i was messing around in forest and saw another
short owl
They can be as non-official-cannon as they want. They are still cannon in my heart
shadow kindle
aghhh why can i not find the second one
sacred rapids
send in the first I think we can try to figure it out
sacred rapids
oh those are clocks
grand swift
where even is that
shadow kindle
it's on the side of the stone steps leading up to forest temple
grand swift
oh yeah
queen locust
There was one of those near the bonfire too right-
sacred rapids
the one in forest is for the rainbow that appears every 5am or pm pdt
stable zodiac
sacred rapids
the others don't do anything right now
stable zodiac
So in the wasteland cutscene was the elder fighting something?
sacred rapids
as far as I know 
queen locust
i just thought he was flexing for a skid
sacred rapids
So in the wasteland cutscene was the elder fighting something?
maybe
stable zodiac
Because since it’s proven that those locations in cutscenes are beyond space and time. I can’t help but wonder what was the wasteland elder fighting?
sacred rapids
k r i l l
supple solar
Quick question about the lore: is there like a head honcho god / elder or something?
Im just starting to pay attention to lore now so I would know
grand swift
yes
supple solar
Also what made the krill exist?
stable zodiac
Krill exist even beyond space and time? Hmm
grand swift
making krills
sacred rapids
Megans real name is mega bird
hushed steeple
the canon doc needs auditing, do not take it as consolidated fact, but it is highly likely factual information.
supple solar
Krills deciding to exist: hmm I’m gonna be big monster what should I look like
Oh I know
A massive shrimpy boi that eats children
lethal stump
you mean editing, not auditing
grand swift
it is confirmed that dark creatures steal light, idk if they eat it
hushed steeple
no I mean auditing, as in verification
lethal stump
it’s said in game that dark dragons will eat your light
sacred rapids
because
stable zodiac
Krills deciding to exist: hmm I’m gonna be big monster what should I look like
Oh I know
A massive shrimpy boi that eats children
@supple solar Krills were originally light dragons. So they already existed but became corrupt and then became krill.
grand swift
but yeah they eat it
supple solar
plot relevance
grand swift
yeah
sacred rapids
the have to eat something after the whurtles for desert don't they?
supple solar
So ig they try to restore what they once were?
lethal stump
i disagree Leo, I think all dark/light creatures existed as they did
stable zodiac
Possibly?
grand swift
it was made by dark
stable zodiac
Well some theories prove that. Like the corruption theories.
Unless your telling me corruption is not a thing and they were always corrupted.
queen locust
Darkness was always a thing- so there's a possibility the krill were naturally occurring
grand swift
the krills were naturally occuring
shadow kindle
does anyone want to add clocks to the lore document
grand swift
they were made by dark substancess
sacred rapids
like the 7 wing cosmic manta
it's there
stable zodiac
Ah I see.
shadow kindle
the clocks around the map -- there's one that indicates the rainbow, but there are others
lethal stump
what « lore doc » tho
sacred rapids
i think thier just there to be more easter eggs
shadow kindle
theory vault (i think in pins)
stable zodiac
I am beginning to see it’s both. Light and dark creatures already existed but it’s possible for a light creature to become corrupt and become a dark creature.
lethal stump
you don’t have to ask for everyone’s opinion to add to that doc...just put forward your theory in the chat, then in the doc
i haven’t made any doc in the pins
im only an editor
stable zodiac
But does that mean a dark creature could become a light creature hence why they steal light?
shadow kindle
I thought i saw it in pins loll i guess I got sent a link
lethal stump
it is in the pins
shadow kindle
oh ok
hushed steeple
according to the "flow" chart of light and dark, one who gives light is connected, one who hoards light is indifferent
stable zodiac
What would happen if indifferent gave light to others?
hushed steeple
supposedly they would become connected to the light, don't quote me on that though just my thoughts
however it is considerably easier to go in one direction than the other
stable zodiac
Because then the same could be said for the connected.
Btw are the connected and indifferent both Skykids?
queen locust
Seeing as we hoard wax and give winged light simultaneously- probably
stable zodiac
Oh I see.
Basically it’s labels for Skykids. If you don’t share you’re indifferent, if you do share you are connected.
shadow kindle
do we have any reasoning for why spirits turn from a more greyish color to orangeish after they are ascended?
queen locust
Might have to do with that flowchart- they've become connected as well
stable zodiac
I think that just indicates you got a permanent wingbuff from that spirit. But I’m not sure.
sacred rapids
the orange looks like the acended candles
stable zodiac
Its red.
hushed steeple
orange is the sacred color!
shadow kindle
Does anyone know of the other locations of the clocks in sky
I'm trying to get some photos
sacred rapids
in the menu it's a orange color
stable zodiac
Might have to do with that flowchart- they've become connected as well
@queen locust Yup, noted flowchart is just a label for skykids.
sacred rapids
by one of the docks in prairie
runic laurel
there is one in the manta village in prairie
sacred rapids
which that one used to summon a boat that you can ride on
or so I was told
stable zodiac
in the menu it's a orange color
@sacred rapids This looks red.
The seasonal candles look orange.
sacred rapids
that is most definitely a reddish orange
stable zodiac
That too.
sacred rapids
when the spirits acend the red from the corners and the white from the middle of it combines to acend them
eternal totem
forging an ascended candle, it's golden
sacred rapids
yeah that's where I got the complete orange color from
urban ginkgo
Wait how do you forge an ascended candle??
sacred rapids
sometimes it just doesn't forge or its own
eternal totem
if the game doesn't feel like it
urban ginkgo
Huh interesting
sacred rapids
sky: "do it yourself for once"
inland iron
I guess you forge an ascended candle when you had like 0.25-0.75 extras from last eden run. So they add to it the 0.75 from this and it forges? 
pastel brookBOT
What do you all want now 
uncut root
Skybot mad
inland iron
s-sorry skybot 
primal verge
Skybot we want lore details!!!!
inland iron
What SkyBot says isn't actual lore from devs:
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
runic laurel
you can forge one from the sparkles from the kids in orbit, not the ones you walk by and collect
i don't know why they are different tho but they are in two separate waves, one for the sparkles < 1 whole candles
hushed steeple
Ok folks r we doing the measuring thing?
Did we already do it?
Wut happened?
Last night lorechat was burning now its hibernating
I am beginning to see it’s both. Light and dark creatures already existed but it’s possible for a light creature to become corrupt and become a dark creature.
@stable zodiac u r all starting to see things my way.... or its just a coincidence idc but see this is jus5 like the theory i had about pure dark creatures and corrupted creatures the krill dont have corruption dust falling off of em i think and crabs do...
So krill have always been dark but the crabs were corrupted
lethal stump
all light-less things have dark particles
krills, crabs, dark plants (aka darkness), and skids as they die in eden
sharp lichen
mossy trellis
There is a call for everything but the krill, maybe the krill aren’t animals but machines
lyric isle
I’ve thought the krill - and recently crabs - are machines for so long
They’re just too unnatural in the way they move and act
gilded fossil
/henlo friend i shall revive chat with the messuring topic
worn citrus
Krill is an actual name of an irl shrimp somewhere
And as we know, their bodies resembles shrimps as well due to the segmented abdomen it has and multiple legs and tendrils that constantly move while floating, like how shrimps have it too
torn kiln
So krill have always been dark but the crabs were corrupted
Krill do have the dark particles coming off them
worn citrus
How it's tunnel visioned with the blue light as its indicator of its line of sight can possibly suggest it is in some way, a machine
Or just game meta cuz their like the bodyguards of wasteland so idk 
I also noticed that while crabs have dark particles all over them, they are not completely dark unlike Krills are
So crabs could likely had been corrupted
gilded fossil
/yall, krill is a fan name tho
lethal stump
yeah, they’re canonically called dark dragons
and a note about why most creatures are sea creatures: the devs liked how they moved and how fluid sea creatures looked, so they modified the looks and made them the primary creatures of the game
gilded fossil
/the crabs arent fluid so they be dark then
near nest
There are some passive crabs in sanctuary, so I’m pretty sure the wasteland/forest ones are corrupted somehow too
gilded fossil
/why is the whiter crabs more hostile tho
/yall the return shrine in sanc and in ark tho, they are significantly whiter...are they more hostile compare to regular home shrines?
/lore chat seems to have 2 modes huh: one mode is the "guide the light quest, slow, steady, but eventually we get to the checkpoint" and the other is the "fetch the light manta call style": everything do be nyooming around
fast jasper
nyooooooooom
gilded fossil
/so may i bring up the realm measuring topic
warm breach
Ohmy-
fast jasper
Uh oh
queen locust
once i saw someone ask how far that toxic ocean in Wasteland could have gone for
horizon measurements lezgo-
hushed steeple
is it even possible to measure valley races
lethal stump
measuring in sky is funky, considering you need consistent scale, distance, etc
queen locust
True- consistency in the Sliding Race is hard to achieve
lethal stump
measuring the elders standing still is hard enough, measuring the sliding race and the world in general will be even harder
clear vector
Too bad the speeds throughout the game are so inconsistent
We could've measured the races that way
neat fractal
Not dead, sneeping 
fast venture
Perhaps the Cave of Prophecies and the trials within are tests to see who is fit to shephard light across the realm?
kind musk
M hmm hmm
edgy sequoia
FORESHADOWING
look at the second to the last comment
the description
It mentioned an ark
fast venture
Question is...what was the apocalypse? Perhaps what wiped them all out?
edgy sequoia
I think the apocalypse is the result of them abusing Light
also I think the Forgotten Ark is the same ark mentioned above (?)
Or it probably might be a smaller ark than that
that ark seems too big for fa
I think there are multiple boats, and arks that tagged along the big one
also uh
since there are leftover spirit stars in the elder constellations
queen locust
Question is if they were to build an Ark to survive where they even go
Could this Ark have reached Orbit
edgy sequoia
my guess is that they joined witht the others on the ark
no
the timeline said that they destroyed the ark before reaching Orbit
meaning they died in Eden
there are also boats in Eden too
one is visible in the first area
dunno why but the area before pont looks like a destroyed ark
like uh
the sides
with the floating debris
pale moon
In the forgotten ark it didn't appear a lo of more boats in the draws in the ark?
edgy sequoia
?
fickle kettle
How old are sky kids? Like
How old would one year in sky years be in human years
Like, 1 sy (sky year) is 10 years old in human years?
gaunt fiber
How old are sky kids? Like
How old would one year in sky years be in human years
Like, 1 sy (sky year) is 10 years old in human years?
@fickle kettle
Good question
No idea
edgy sequoia
theyre probably ageless?
gaunt fiber
theyre probably ageless?
@edgy sequoia
They do die every time in Eden
And are born again..
Yes you're right, they're probably ageless if they don't make the Eden run..
urban ginkgo
Wait so if they were trying to get to orbit, does that mean some spirits did regret falling or were interested in discovering their roots? Since in orbit they end up returning to Megan
kind musk
Peeking around for interesting questions 
hushed steeple
random fact: a version of the score for Sky was actually completed prior to the development of the core story, so in a way the environments in sky are partially influenced by the music composed by Vincent Diamante
also res, have you found any repetition/variations in the leitmotif of the OST that is consistent, like recurring themes etc?
i have to sleep, you can ping me i will read it tomorrow
icy spruce
I noticed in Earth trial, you can see your shadow but not the rocks.
solar relic
@hushed steeple
i've found a couple i've mentioned in this channel, the main leitmotifs (e.g. the tune that plays when you get kidnapped by a manta), the 'king' leitmotif (first 20 seconds of lost and found), the 'death' leitmotif (no other name for it but you can find it in waltzing in the rain/piano ending credits)
i would go into more details on what i found but it'd just me repeating myself you can search 'leitmotif in:lore-discussion-spoilers' in the search bar and you can see all my babbling about it (the messages under 'resrepoze' are by me too but i got locked out of that account bc 2fa 
). but what i said before could be wrong and outdated as well, but it's a start if you want to know more about what i found. i can only start revising and adding to my leitmotif notes in november though. if you have any thoughts feel free to ping or dm me :'))) (edited bc of discord and that auto emoji correction eeesh)
I noticed in Earth trial, you can see your shadow but not the rocks.
@icy spruce oo i've never noticed that before, though i though the rocks would have shadows too since they seem to be physical. maybe it's implying that these trials are actually not taking place in the real world but rather in a separate dimension - that's why we don't really die and are without our capes? maybe it takes place inside our mind, who knows?
icy spruce
Huh
solar relic
wait i gotta reread what i wrote do i make sense? i probably don't hold on
hushed steeple
It's possible that those trials aren't in the usual sky world where we play everyday
Maybe a different dimension or maybe a dream.. Maybe our imagination
about the shadow of Rocks maybe those don't exists in real... Just an imagination or a dream like World.. so maybe that's why
solar relic
^^^ yeah, what mio said. that's what i was trying to say 
solar relic
interplanetary empire let's go 
hushed steeple
It reminds me about this
solar relic
office existed around that time right? 👁️👁️
hushed steeple
Office is an Easter egg
solar relic
yeahh :^(
hushed steeple
#screenshots-and-videos with spoiler tag the pic
solar relic
!picspoiler
pastel brookBOT
To spoiler tag a picture, rename the file name to begin with “SPOILER_”, or (desktop only) click the “Mark as spoiler” box when you upload it. To rename on iOS, export image to the Files app > rename > share to Discord.
lucid cradle
Thats.... not really spoilered..........
Oh wait i thought i was in sky memes
Sorry
I cant read the top of my screen aparently
elfin halo
Posted to vid &pics, with spoiler label
sinful anvil
but why a simulation? did they create it? how did they link the simulation to the cave? is the simulation created at all?
fallen zenith
Maybe some technology similar to the memory cubes (was that what they're called?) in vault
hushed steeple
Well it's the same mechanism used for elder shrines i believe.... Elders are also in a like different/separated from sky world/another dimension area
Well they are sort of in a polder dimension
Like the trials are
And time ceases to exist in these "pocket dimensions" aka time curves
sinful anvil
probably its time to accept in sky, its possible to manipulate time
stone rivet
So skids can travel outside the world
junior robin
Are we skids made up of a candle-
Whenever I take the candle out... The diamond shinny thing in the chest is gone.....
Never noticed this-
thin dirge
I think the flame itself is the light stone on our chest
junior robin
👀
thin dirge
The candle is just... something our skid has in their pocket to scoop out the flame
junior robin
Ohhhh
hushed steeple
Like icecream?
bitter shale
yo do you guys remember that one time when we discussed how to measure a krill-
i found a way, but its need lots of oob
livid valley
Oh? How do you do it
bitter shale
office krill
livid valley
ah
livid valley
LMAO
bitter shale
well its a fact that im shorter than its legs
livid valley
It's really big damn
hushed steeple
yeah
gilded fossil
/~~aaand the chat's been ded for 3 hours ~~
bitter shale
idk why but the mountai look bigger from valley
seems like valley is located near eden
bitter shale
who knows, since i got that picture on my way to the stadium
alrho still kinda confusing why valley is not obliterated like gw
gilded fossil
/soo from that i would imagine valley is like, circled around the eden mountain
bitter shale
makes sense. valley does located on ghe mountain foot
while for gw, im not sure
maybe gw located more higher that valley? but doenst makes any sense tho...
gilded fossil
/wwell
bitter shale
unless if gw was a part of valley once
gilded fossil
/it is a valley thooo
livid valley
Lmao
bitter shale
gilded fossil
/a valley is gonna be much lower than the other parts surrounding
/so i say, gw is located a bi higher
bitter shale
but why gw have a sea
gilded fossil
/hmmmmm
inland iron
because yes
bitter shale
except maybe its not a natural sea... more like they filled a whole area with ooze...
mhm yeah like that jen
gilded fossil
/can we try measuring the sea
livid valley
Pretty impossible
gilded fossil
/ya wont know if ya dont try
gilded fossil
/well, i say we should start with home first tho, if we actually gonna start the measuring
/trial and error
livid valley
Cough wind walls cough
livid valley
Measuring 1/10 of the sea
hushed steeple
Well GW was a part of valley
Named Golden Valleys
But i think it's just a theory
gilded fossil
/yea in the concepts
bitter shale
its still a possibility that gw was a part of valley once, but i think gw was a more... secluded part of valley? like maybe a more indutrialized and military-focused area
gilded fossil
/other way around tho
/i think
/cause irl, the place where they pratice military stuff is far away frombattle, and the battle we know is taken place in gw
/i say that valley is probably where they practice, and gw the battle field
/also, a bit on the "history sucks and people are mean" you only attack places with plenty of people, or large cities
thin dirge
I went to the OOB at GW Social Area. When you do piggyback rocket thing
We weren't able to get high enough cause I only had one chair spell
But its waayyyy closer there
Well, if you get high enough
gilded fossil
/the ice cream mountain?
thin dirge
Yeah? Is that what its called? Lol
gilded fossil
/yeeeeep and i love it so much
thin dirge
But since it was right at the GW social space, I belive GW is at the foot of the Eden mountain
icy spruce
Wait a sec, I though GW is located below Valley?? Since when going Valley-GW, we go a bit down and the you know?
thin dirge
Valley was just some Valley area near Eden
I believe it is
GW is between Eden and Valley. Its at the foot of Valley AND Eden, I believe
That's why I'm sticking with the theory that Vault is indeed inside Eden mountain...
inland iron
I first thought masks' eye holes glow because of maybe the sky kid's eye? But seems like sky kids always have eyes closed so where does the glow in masks come from?
gilded fossil
/well, tho, how you explain we exist vault after the elder cutscenes and we at the bottom of the eden mountain?
/hmmmmmmm
/good question tyler
thin dirge
Vault is a tower inside the Eden mountain. Like some elevator that brings people up to Eden
I mean, Vault was literally described as some elevator-
gilded fossil
/wait someone try getting krilled does the light eyess disappear and the chest egg
thin dirge
The chest circle doesn't disappear
gilded fossil
/so what actually happens when we exit vault then butter?
thin dirge
Its there, but darkened
The chest circle
I believe it's just our flame/light, just turned into some light stone on our chest
gilded fossil
/so you become no mask after krill?
inland iron
Mask counts as cosmetics
thin dirge
^
gilded fossil
/uh hoo, really mask ya question huh
thin dirge
gilded fossil
/how do are eyes be glow
thin dirge
Actually, our masks are meant to blink originally as well
So my headcanon was that our eyes aren't actually closed
Well, only closed when we lose our light
inland iron
oh yea, chibi blinks while holding a harp only harp
thin dirge
Not only harp
inland iron
How does the mask blink
lyric isle
Brain went ‘power diamonds in the eyes’
thin dirge
Doing some emotes too
inland iron
Yes yes that too
gilded fossil
/ that;s a bug actually
thin dirge
Rallying Thrillseeker emote, praying, Deep breth lvl 3 emote...
lyric isle
All the masks used to blink, actually, but that was (nearly) rid of
inland iron
I mean imagine animating a whole blink animation accidently
lyric isle
Am I the only one who finds it genuinely unsettling
inland iron
so our masks are alive and blink?
gilded fossil
/only the chibis
thin dirge
But since masks were actually meant to blink originally (only changed due to variety of masks like from Gratitude), my headcanon is that our skid does kinda blink or can close their eyes through the masks. But the maskless is closed eyes because that's what your face is meant to look like in default when losing your light
gilded fossil
/light then, like all cosmectics
inland iron
hmm how does it use the light?
thin dirge
Our cosmetics are made of light
But I guess when skids lose their light, their eyes are meant to be closed, cause most of the time, you lose your mask by losing light from Krills.
Not by getting the cosmetic
That's what I believe, at least
inland iron
Oo so the mask is just made of light that's why it glows?
gilded fossil
/maybe our cosmectics are made out of clay like us
thin dirge
I think they're made of light.
gilded fossil
/since when we slowly lose light the clothes slowly darkens
thin dirge
Cause we lose them specifically when we lose our light by getting krilled and stuff-
We literally see some "extnguish" effect and then we lose the cosmetics
That's why I believe cosmetics are made of light
thin dirge
It goes dark
gilded fossil
/oh yea that
thin dirge
My headcanon is that its actually meant to be our flame
inland iron
Yep it goes dark, took a while to find the pic
thin dirge
Maybe its actually meant to be just a holder for our flame? Disappears when we take out our flame though
I guess its just there to show that we dont have light anymore?
inland iron
you mean in orbit?
gilded fossil
/the chest egg is not seen when we in dark room after eden
thin dirge
It used to be circle tho
Since circles are significant in Sky, I'm still gonna call it our chest circle, lol
frail hearth
Chest bean for me
gilded fossil
/yall the chair makes a circle shadow just a fun fact
inland iron
Also while in orbit without any wls it still there and lit
lethal stump
everything makes a circular shadow
gilded fossil
/chair be ufo- wait really?
lethal stump
including us, our shadow is comprised of circles
yes because circles are the easiest thing to use
gilded fossil
/i though arms be rectangle???
thin dirge
Jen, our chest circle is still there when we're in the dark room when we die in Eden
I've seen screenshots of it-
gilded fossil
/uh oh memo when scrrrrrr\
thin dirge
You're talking about the (not) shiny boi lol
gilded fossil
/also, in computering wise wouldnt triangles be the easiest thing to use
/wait the shiny boi is the one without the chest egg????
spring blaze
i think circles are like the easiest shape to mold
thin dirge
Yes, shiny boi does not have the chest circle
There's been comparisons thats been shared here-
gilded fossil
/hmmmmm
thin dirge
Its the major thing about shiny boi that actually may tell us that shiny boi is not us
gilded fossil
/makes ya question who is the shiny boi
vast latch
Is shiny boi prenc
thin dirge
Prince? Memory of Prince?
inland iron
Also if you enter point of no return capeless you directly start getting black and die but the light circle stays until you lose all light and it kinda look wierd
vast latch
Memory pieces?
inland iron
And all cosmetics stay as well
gilded fossil
/hmm i think the wl is the memo piecces
thin dirge
Uhhh
About that
The text when you enter the point of no return actually confirms the WL are of the Fallen...
gilded fossil
/ya know the specks looks like the spirit memories, the part when you burn and release them
/okaaaaay but
/are the statues in storm lock the fallen
vast latch
I have this tiny theory that the Prince has multiple different bodies and has tried to stop Eden by themselves. They die and gets reborn every time
gilded fossil
/just "the light"?
vast latch
At the end they just give up
gilded fossil
/go on alif
thin dirge
Wait, does that mean... we're just... reviving the Prince's dead corpses with WL...?
gilded fossil
/why would prince wanna try stopping eden?
vast latch
Yes...??
thin dirge
vast latch
Because they regret their action
thin dirge
Okkaaaaayyyy
sacred rapids
gilded fossil
/what about the elders
vast latch
I think every time the Prince dies they lose a part of their light
vast latch
I haven't really thought of this theory through
scenic hedge
I think the dead body’s are dead skykids from the past
gilded fossil
/not the winged light tho
thin dirge
gilded fossil
/just the light
thin dirge
Winged light IS light tho
vast latch
Alternative (crack) theory: Prince learned how to use shadow clone jutsu
scenic hedge
I mean they have the same body shape as us and everything
gilded fossil
/i say, the light is also refered to eden
scenic hedge
/i say, the light is also refered to eden
@gilded fossil that’s orbit
scenic hedge
The light is also the thing guiding us (most likely Megan)
thin dirge
Well, actually, our light does
scenic hedge
Yea
scenic hedge
And Megan is kinda the light but not??
gilded fossil
/not sure if i have mention the friend constellation use to be label "the light", after they updated the shape. Like,how the constellation for prarie is labeled "Daylight Prarie"
scenic hedge
Like she didn’t make the light but is a personification of it
thin dirge
Actually, I have a screenshot of the old constellation
gilded fossil
/oooh
vast latch
Gib
scenic hedge
In prairie it says “you feel your light calling you” or something of the like
Idk if they removed it
thin dirge
Yeah
Hmmm
Not sure if the pic I have actually shows the title
Like, it doesnt, but..
gilded fossil
/the title only appears after the shape update
scenic hedge
So your light definitely guides you
thin dirge
I need to check the old videos just to be sure
gilded fossil
/like they made the friend constellation bigger and then like a few updates after they added the title
scenic hedge
Yeah
vast latch
Is this the old friend constellation?
inland iron
I guess this was before release?
vast latch
Yeah
gilded fossil
/im refering to ios launch friend constellation aliff
vast latch
Oh-
inland iron
You could only have 10 friends omg
scenic hedge
You could only have 10 friends?
vast latch
whoop
gilded fossil
/ see that is why, light awaits was not cool
vast latch
Having only 10 friends is just sad
- Written by a person who has 11 friends that never come online
gilded fossil
/cant even fly until like 10 minutes in what are we doing in light awaits again
spring blaze
the aesthetic, the old areas, and cutscenes were cool
the bugs, lags, freezes and such werent
frail hearth
Bring aviary back
spring blaze
they do plan on bringing it back
vast latch
The old valley elders cutscene was cool, but I understand why they changed it
frail hearth
OOH?
vast latch
My phone would ✨combust✨ if they didn't change it
spring blaze
i dont think it’s like the actual area but like aspects of it? bc prairie social space (which was aviary back then) is fine enough
vast latch
The light particles, man
gilded fossil
/also, the valley elders werre abit too cool, they made them more mischievous and anti hero -ish now
spring blaze
my phone would shut down
scenic hedge
The old concepts where really cool
spring blaze
the valley elder bat the light away while the other elders used it to repair, make or empower something
elders*
i think it makes sense for valleys honestly
vast latch
In the old cutscene, they also light up like the other elders, unlike in the current one
spring blaze
valley used a lot of resources (like gold for the linings and roofs skjfjsjd) and the valley elders wacking the light to the sky shows how careless they are on resources
inland iron
why did they change the valley cutscene btw?
spring blaze
... which leads us to wasteland
i feel like it’s bc its resource-heavy
also very bright-
gilded fossil
also, the valley elders werre abit too cool, they made them more mischievous and anti hero -ish now
/and
my phone would shut down
/2 reasons
vast latch
I like Teth's older cutscene more
spring blaze
i dont think a lot of phones wouldnt be able to run it haha
inland iron
Teth had a different cutscene as well?
spring blaze
they also gotta think of the android phones too
gilded fossil
/wait what happend to teth?
vast latch
They move more fluently and does not need hammer and does not steal from a child
gilded fossil
/aaah
vast latch
And they blink
inland iron
gilded fossil
/still kept the leggs tho
inland iron
AH yEs bLinK
spring blaze
skids used to blink
vast latch
/still kept the leggs tho
Legs move more in the old cutscene
vast latch
Their legs are actually useful in the old cutscene
Same with Tsadi's because in the old cutscene they didn't fall down
spring blaze
i will never be able to remember the elder names lol
frail hearth
Bro the lighting in Teth's old cutscene is amazing
sacred rapids
morning
what do we have here and can I see it?
vast latch
There's an 11 hour long video of sky light awaits gameplay
gilded fossil
/light awaits it seems
sacred rapids
oh boy
vast latch
In the comment section there are timestamps of the elders cutscene
gilded fossil
/who actually watches that tho
vast latch
/who actually watches that tho
.... Me
sacred rapids
can someone link it please?
vast latch
https://youtu.be/bQTH0bLyvh4
Enjoy spending 11 hours of your life watching this
icy spruce
Who is Teth again?
sacred rapids
I probably am going to watch all of it
vast latch
Who is Teth again?
Forest elder
icy spruce
Ah, thanks
vast latch
Or, if you like I can link my Tumblr post
I posted most of the beta elders cutscene there
sacred rapids
na I'll just watch it all
frail hearth
Does anyone have a vid of Teth's old cutscene?
https://youtu.be/dyeH746OJBc
vast latch
Here's the timestamps because I wasn't able to find it in my android phone yet I found it in my iPad's youtube
- In case you also didn't find the timestamps
gilded fossil
/yall bacc in beta valley was called mountain
vast latch
Hidden Forest was Weeping Forest
Golden Wasteland was Shores of Manna (which means shores of the unknown I believe)
sacred rapids
well looks like it got moved from mountain to valley by 2 bigger mountains coming up on the sides
hushed steeple
isn't valley called sunset?
thin dirge
Weeping Forest..? Forest Elder does seem sad..
Idk
But Shores of Manna? That's interesting
thin dirge
Tho I think I kinda understand why its called Hidden Forest instead
But eh, I still can't say anything
stone rivet
Let's theorize on next seasonal location!
hushed steeple
weeping forest?
vast latch
weeping forest?
Beta name for hidden forest
thin dirge
I meant, I understand why it was changed to Hidden Forest and didn't keep Weeping Forest
Not why it was called Hidden Forest
gilded fossil
/why butter tell me butter
vast latch
Another cool fact is that all of the spirits used to be the drag spirit
hushed steeple
also I am utterly confused on the old samekh cutscene
vast latch
Imagine the pain
icy spruce
I think it was called hidden forest since it was hidden under clouds?
thin dirge
But the Hidden Forest part reminds me of the old concept of Forest
stone rivet
Because we have seasonal locations in Isle Prairie and GW kinda in Forest but idk
thin dirge
It was actually a forbidden place that Alef ventured off to with concept Forest Elder
Thus "Hidden"
icy spruce
huh
gilded fossil
/oh yea only place left
vast latch
Imagine seasonal area in orbit
boreal nebula
Alternative (crack) theory: Prince learned how to use shadow clone jutsu
@vast latch Kage Bushin No Jutsu
thin dirge
But like Cave of Prophecies, it's through a portal-
boreal nebula
I knew these old screenshots would come in handy
thin dirge
Wait....
boreal nebula
thin dirge
The skids in Eden are bigger than us-
boreal nebula
Yes
boreal nebula
thin dirge
Both statues and even when they become shiny bois in the Light-
hushed steeple
Guys.....
boreal nebula
hushed steeple
are the spirits of the season of belonging a family?
thin dirge
Aha, so we're indeed different from them-
vast latch
We're talking beta because I accidentally brought it up
spring blaze
yes
hushed steeple
boreal nebula
They looks like big baby (newborn, cause they have huge heads compared to their bodies)
thin dirge
vast latch
Giant baby?
livid valley
More like giant head
thin dirge
This feels like reinforcing the Prince=Us theory...
hushed steeple
Ohhhhh
I have a theory on that
Those r skid .ver.1.0 and they got corrupted so megan made skid.ver.2.0 to clean up the mess
Skid ver.2.0 is us
thin dirge
I had a theory/possible idea once...
gilded fossil
/maaaybe pyre?
thin dirge
That could definitely be possible!
boreal nebula
And after countless versions 1.x we arrived as brand new ver 2.0
vast latch
Sounds very possible!
thin dirge
But perhaps it's left to our interpretation
livid valley
Someone updated the Skids
junior robin
hushed steeple
Thank u ppl
thin dirge
A theory I had once is that they actually sacrificed theirselves trying to save the Prince.
That's why the Prince is not around to be saved... To quote the devs "There's nothing left to save"
boreal nebula
Oh.. my last theory, not sure if you read, is
The Elders statue we see in our way to Orbit were not torned apart from Vault
What was your theory, Pyre?
junior robin
Maybe the answer to everything is us skids. very dumb observation
hushed steeple
My theory on the prince is that we r a part of the prince like horus's eye and like thats how the prince plays a role in the game and thats why the eden elder isnt around to be saved anymore...
boreal nebula
Yeah, their bigger dimensions is another proof, but I found another
thin dirge
Unless... Vault's shrine took a huge spell-
gilded fossil
/soo like
thin dirge
Re-size+huge spell
boreal nebula
Horus' eye?
thin dirge
Lmao
boreal nebula
Tell me about
gilded fossil
/the statues shrines at the top of orbit isnt the one in summit?
livid valley
Their re size are modified to be 100 percent large
livid valley
Aye
hushed steeple
Its just an eye that split in to 16 pieces i think
boreal nebula
Oh.. my last theory, not sure if you read, is
The Elders statue we see in our way to Orbit were not torned apart from Vault
The roof of Vault seems depicted as the sphere with diamonds symbols I got on screenshots in Eden
Check pictures in this comment
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
And that Sphere with the so called "king symbol" is completly intact.
So I think the roof of Vault was never torn apart.
Lamed is dreaming/remember that scene with a huge hologram in Vault last floor
gilded fossil
/soo the summit is part of the dream also?
hushed steeple
So my theory was that resh or alef split into thousands of pieces and each one of us is a skid
gilded fossil
/what would ourr friends be then
/also us???
boreal nebula
All floors are dreams (beside the ground floor and the place we end up when we leave Lamed's pocket dimension)
hushed steeple
Maybe they fixed the roof
And the floor is a dream?
50 million pieces and counting
And the floor is a dream? I thought it was like sparkles growing artificially
gilded fossil
/ im thinking of sth that's not very family friendlt when you say that lamb
hushed steeple
U know...
The sparkles in mushrooms and stuff
/
im thinking of sth that's not very family friendly when you say that lamb
@gilded fossil like blowing up? I wont specify the target so it wont get family unfriendly
gilded fossil
/yep
hushed steeple
Its prob wut happened to alef or resh
I personally think alef and resh r like anakin and darth vader
Oh and guys i found another supercharger in forest caverns
Even faster than the flame....
boreal nebula
The tiny mushroom inside two gates?
That is already known, no?
hushed steeple
I didn't mean anything else other than Sky hitting 50 million downloads in Season of Prophecy
pastel brookBOT
The prophecy once foretold of skykids that never rest. They never saw the darkness that swiftly engulfed them. Don’t forget to charge your phones 
boreal nebula
Or is that a second tiny mushroom?
Only thing I know is faster than that tiny mushroom is the Rock Pad in HomeSpace (near the right hand side of the wing 
)
solar relic
o that's a glitch
inner basalt
What’s this? I found it long time ago in Sanctuary
solar relic
yeah that's a bug
boreal nebula
Bug, in a different iteration there was no sign of the 2 figures below
gilded fossil
/bugg with info thooo
livid valley
i mean kinda... i guess
boreal nebula
@hushed steeple I think your theory about the similarities i with the Eye Of Horus is interesting
Expecially after I read this on wikipedia page
When Horus's eye was recovered, he offered it to his father, Osiris, in hopes of restoring his life. Hence, the eye of Horus was often used to symbolise sacrifice, healing, restoration, and protection.[10]
inner basalt
So not some hidden stuff that may tell a story we don’t know
hushed steeple
Yup
livid valley
mhm just a bug to confuse people
willow pumice
Do the location of dark tree plants have a significant meaning in sky lore, lets talk about it.
willow pumice
They grow that big on certain places, there should be something that makes them grow
hushed steeple
Again and again and again
willow pumice
We have them in sanctuary islands, forest and wasteland
hushed steeple
They're a subspecies of darkness plant and they thrive in dark areas
willow pumice
But Sanctuary islands and forest dark plant trees grow in places with lots of light
gilded fossil
/well, isle too!
icy spruce
True
gloomy stag
Maybe it also has to do something with the dark creatures as well?
hushed steeple
Guysguysguys we need to name the forest cavern supercharger mushroom
But Sanctuary islands and forest dark plant trees grow in places with lots of light
@willow pumice no they dont
gilded fossil
/pft is that a mushroom thoo? or a candles?
willow pumice
Yes sanctuary islands dark plant tree placed in cave but cave takes great sunlight inside, so we cannot call that cave a dark place
hushed steeple
Bricky... dont be so negative today is a good day
icy spruce
@willow pumice no they dont
@hushed steeple
But in sanc, the tree is legit on the middle where there is a lot of light
hushed steeple
Its in a cave
willow shoal
sanc?
icy spruce
And the tree is really big-
lethal stump
also on the topic of the darkness trees, it seems they grow wherever they like
the only consistent aspect i see is they grow in humid areas
icy spruce
True
celest spoke
Whabout the plants w lots of overlapping scales but no trunk/branch structure
lethal stump
although heat doesn’t seem to be a factor, considering forest is cold and sanc is hot yet they both have dark trees
hushed steeple
Sanc is hot?
hushed steeple
I guess
lethal stump
with beaches and lush greenery
vast latch
It's a tropical island so it probably is
hushed steeple
And its next to isle
lethal stump
and direct sunlight
willow shoal
Well i know that, I just wonder what u are talking about
celest spoke
Valley temple maze is cold/dry
hushed steeple
Ok folks back to naming
willow pumice
My assumption is they grow that big in areas where there is lots of dark stone beneath.
gilded fossil
/since no one using it enough
hushed steeple
Darkstone is an old name for dark plant no?
lethal stump
so, we can logically assume that darkness grows despite temperature
lethal stump
darkstone and dark plants are arguably the same thing, though
celest spoke
Still think Oreo area is like an isolated offshoot of forest bc trees
hushed steeple
Prob a part of the border between forest and prairie
celest spoke
Dk plants on vy sunny prairie belltowers??
lethal stump
although we do see dark plants growing on sand, dry sand for that matter
willow pumice
Darkstones are power stones that caused this eden explosion, after explosion dark plants came to life because of uncontrollable dark stone energy
gilded fossil
/where bricky?
hushed steeple
Anyways...guys..... the mushroom naming
lethal stump
in wasteland, battlefield
junior robin
Super charge fungi - I name it - neonothopanus.
idk where I read this- but .....here u go anyway
lethal stump
and also broken temple entrance has dark plants on the sand and in the ooze
celest spoke
Wanna just call mushrooms Bob
hushed steeple
neonothopanus wut does that mean
gilded fossil
/ah yes bob
hushed steeple
Wanna just call mushrooms Bob
@celest spoke oh no we r doing scientific names
junior robin
Idk something which glows
boreal nebula
I don't think dark plants grow in darkstones places. But rather they grow well with two factors
lethal stump
the more i think of it the more it seems these plants are an anywhere anytime type creature
they’ll grow anywhere they please
junior robin
I don't remember I read it in an old encyclopedia
gilded fossil
/they be moss i tell you
/sassy moss
stone rivet
Guys, should we theorize on next seasonal location?
hushed steeple
Plz look it up on google....
junior robin
No wait I go Google this word if it actually exist
lethal stump
moss, or fungus
considering they seem to have spores i like to think they’re fungus
hushed steeple
No wait I go Google this word
if it actually exist
@junior robin thx
lethal stump
we don’t know the next seasonal location, skellit
celest spoke
Pft technically mushrooms are just the flowering/fruiting bodies of vast underground mycelium
hushed steeple
Guys, should we theorize on next seasonal location?
@stone rivet we just started proph...
willow pumice
@stone rivet Forest, most probably, or valley
gilded fossil
Guys, should we theorize on next seasonal location?
/a bitt, too early friend? we have no where to start??? season hasnt ended yet?
boreal nebula
A "soil" which is a good spot with the right amount of darkness (maybe eve a tiny shadow and slightly cooler places)
And lightcreature source for lifeforce as "water
"
hushed steeple
Pft technically mushrooms are just the flowering/fruiting bodies of vast underground mycelium
@celest spoke yes but we found another species so it needs a name for tue scientific name doc
lethal stump
and nonetheless that sounds more like a thing for #seasons-events-chat @stone rivet
boreal nebula
So there are places(GW for example) with lots of darkness where finding enough life force make them grow bigger
willow pumice
Isle, praire, wasteland, forest and vault has pretty big new seeasonal places, so my assumption would be Valley
celest spoke
Ok I missed something— dk fungus trees are different from nontrees? Where do lil miniplants on butterfly pots fit in?
hushed steeple
Someone link the name doc im on mobile
hushed steeple
Yup
junior robin
I search up a different name
boreal nebula
And places where butterflies are freed from pots (in the side caves in Prairie) where even if cool & dark enough they die without their "water" feed
boreal nebula
If I would have to get , Energia
hushed steeple
Ooooh results...
junior robin
Erat arida? (Glowing plant in latin)
hushed steeple
Thx
boreal nebula
But the glowing mushroom platform... They glow
hushed steeple
Erat arida? (Glowing plant in latin)
@junior robin no.... we need a fungi genus
boreal nebula
The tiny mushroomm is more like, incandescent, very strong
hushed steeple
But the glowing mushroom platform... They glow
@boreal nebula not those we have those this is the supercharger mushroom
Strong
Lets do strong
celest spoke
Whaaa “erat” just means “was”
junior robin
Ok
boreal nebula
Yes.but "glowing plant" would make me thing of those platforms
hushed steeple
Google strong in latin pls
boreal nebula
Something like "incadescent mushroom " would suit better
hushed steeple
Yes.but "glowing plant" would make me thing of those platforms
@boreal nebula yes plus it isnt a plant remember this is a scientific name
celest spoke
Mutter mutter gonna go dig out my Cassell’s dictionary
junior robin
Strong- in latin- fortis
boreal nebula
Nova Mushroom? So it reminds how SuperNovas were considered as new stars by Latins
When instead they are old stars extinguishing their life cycle in a big incadescent explosion
mortal viper
please don't use existing genus, they are not real mushrooms and even if they were, they are definetely not related to the ones we have on earth
junior robin
Yup-
mortal viper
the fun part of lore is making things up, so make up genus and species from scrach! it's fun! you get to make your hole tree of life without having to fit them ob earth standarts
hushed steeple
Oooh we r gonna have to turn the name doc upside down...
lethal stump
basically yeah
hushed steeple
For now tho its prob Tricholoma fortis or summin
Nova Mushroom? So it reminds how SuperNovas were considered as new stars by Latins
@boreal nebula nova is new in latin
what is the link for the scientific name doc? I forgot
Imma send
Oops dont have it...
Does someone have it?
Hey... guys i know this is a lot to ask but can we plzplz put this discussion on hold till monday.... i rlly am srry but im on my phone till monday...
Plz...
boreal nebula
My assumption is they grow that big in areas where there is lots of dark stone beneath.
@willow pumice then why don't they grow in Eden?
Because there is (maybe even in the past) no light there.
They need to feed out of lifeforce, we see it in GW where there is a hidden circle (maybe an old fireplace of the Survivor spirit ) where if you burn plant bulbs (maybe their first stage in growth) butterflies are freed
(Pretty sure it appeans on tiny bulbs in Prairie too, those on the bells which summon mantas, but little amount of butterflies are freed there)
And I see no darkstone there
hushed steeple
I would love it if i could contribute to the doc a lot.... and thats rlly hard on my phone...
lethal stump
lore chat isn’t gonna stop just because you want it to pyre
hushed steeple
make a link then come back
No like we could go to the previous discussions like nothing happened...
Plz...
lethal stump
hushed steeple
Wow bricky has it
lethal stump
it’s in the theory vault
boreal nebula
@boreal nebula nova is new in latin
@hushed steeple yes and it fits well the fact it's a tiny new baby mushroom, too.
Old Latin peoples tought thet were Supernova explosion were just Nova Astra, new stars, but in fast are just Incandescent star exploded
SuperNova Mushroom?
willow shoal
Mushroom?
gilded fossil
/yall fun facc back in LA eden had darkplants
hushed steeple
you all think the light fungus are pathogens, kind of like some species of fungus are parasitic and digest moist wood, and since the forest is always raining, their population could easily flourish
celest spoke
Oookay Cassell’s has 4 diff cats of wds that mean “dark”: non-lighted vs non-pale vs. mysterious vs. gloomy
Tho there are some overlaps
boreal nebula
I think those fungi are symbionts, not pathogens
inland narwhal
Yes. Finally! 🍄
hushed steeple
they are seen growing on decaying tree trunks though, but I don't know much about biology
celest spoke
Also there are two Latin wds for “black” (shiny black vs matte black)
hushed steeple
Ok..... but first ppl
To go with blu's advice we need to make genuses
And divide up the animal kingdom
But this is a job for monday
Lets move on for now
I think those fungi are symbionts, not pathogens
@boreal nebula rrly? They r eating the trees or eating dead trees so prob not simbiotes.... but then again im not the biology expert here
inland narwhal
Some mushrooms in rock near angry emote.
hushed steeple
Guys... the extra smol treasure candles...
And wut happened to measuring sky?
Guuuuuuys
We were supposed to measure the length of each realm n stuff
willow shoal
||混沌中曾有一座天空王国，光明与黑暗的失衡，使得这个一度繁荣的王国走向没落，只流传下来这样的一条预言：在不久的未来，会有一群孩子归来，把光明带回这个国度。|| —Netease editor 06/21/2018
junior robin
.....?
hushed steeple
English pls
willow shoal
No en version
hushed steeple
Oh thank goodness alicia wut happened to measuring the realms n stuff in sky?
yoo, let me translate that
hushed steeple
I think lambda is doing it...
celest spoke
||There was a sky kingdom in the chaos. The imbalance between light and darkness caused this once prosperous kingdom to decline. Only this prophecy has been passed down: in the near future, a group of children will return and bring light back to this kingdom. . || —Netease editor 06/21/2018
hushed steeple
Wow....
thin dirge
Could we trust it?
hushed steeple
Butter butter wut happened to measuring sky?
hushed steeple
yeah it is pretty close
thin dirge
Huh?
hushed steeple
Butter..... u were there..... prophman u too.... wut happened to measuring sky and its realms?
willow shoal
Please go google for help, my vocabulary is poor
hushed steeple
Someone?
Anyone?
there is going to be no need for translators anymore once google translate get past the last hurdle
thin dirge
(Gosh, I have terrible memory, I don't remember-)
celest spoke
Is this gonna be like measuring the MIT bridge where we measure things by laying down a unit kid and rolling them?
gilded fossil
/maaybe lmao
junior robin
Wut- measure the realms how
gilded fossil
/ stacking chibis
junior robin
Lol
livid valley
good luck with that
hushed steeple
Placing tables next t9 each other at high altitudes
thin dirge
Anyway, since its Netease, I pretty much doubt its actually canon-
hushed steeple
dang
celest spoke
Standard kid lays down and dies, 2nd unit kid stands on head facing same direction and dies, repeat
delicate coral
Yep, netease is run separate to non-netease sky
the canon is potentially completely different
livid valley
measuring the height of the realms or the length
thin dirge
Devs confirmed they don't have much of a say about what happens at Netease, so yeah
hushed steeple
Standard kid lays down and dies, 2nd unit kid stands on head facing same direction and dies, repeat
this only works if the ground is absolutely flat
thin dirge
I mean, CN Server
celest spoke
Oh yeah, unit table could work
hushed steeple
Wut- measure the realms how
@junior robin flying high into the air and then placing tables and couting the number of tables
thin dirge
Wh1
junior robin
Wowz
thin dirge
Thats a lot of tables
livid valley
so your measuring the height of the realm?
celest spoke
Height could be measured in flaps if no wind
delicate coral
lol when did you decide this? I wasn't here for that I don't think
junior robin
I don't have a table
thin dirge
I dont have table either
hushed steeple
this only works if the ground is absolutely flat
@hushed steeple yes therefore we need to do the table flying thing in the air
thin dirge
Plus, would take too long
livid valley
i have table but its too ridiculous
hushed steeple
tebkanlo's warp distance is still the most accurate I think
so your measuring the height of the realm?
@livid valley no length
tebkanlo's warp distance is still the most accurate I think
@hushed steeple yesyes
No i remember
you will still get errors by misplacement of tables
and a lot of tiny errors add up
livid valley
mhm
hushed steeple
That was the best one
you will still get errors by misplacement of tables
@hushed steeple yes
celest spoke
Warp distance?
hushed steeple
Lets do the warp thing...
hushed steeple
Ok imma sneep now its pretty late good night everyone...
livid valley
night Pyre