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who in the right mind would let the big diamond fart
All so he could go back to orbit
King is bad king
Also the whole prophecy thing supports the idea that the king knew the dangers of the diamond and still tried to use it.
i have seen your future, @scenic hedge, and... well, i won't spoil the surprise 
My future is disappointing I khow
Can you imagine a thousand Skykids just going against the King like burning small balls of fury
yes.
Can you imagine a thousand Skykids just going against the King like burning small balls of fury
@thorn trout yes
this is the chat about it
King: Hey I'm trying to exist-
50 thousand Skykids: D E A T H
like I wanna fight the king tbh
look at gen chat they can bring him down in a minute
Like give me a sword or something I’ll do it
I can break his neck
Sky gets a bloody and graphic combat system
LETS KILL THE KING
Could also be that it was a deterrent. Not meant to kill.
Sevlyna#7245
Wait... Which word summoned skybot
King : let’s entire kingdom die
Everyone:
for this season skybot responds to the words prophecy, prophet and trial
XD
Anyways, as much as killing the King would be fun, any lore y'all?
XD
Anyways, as much as killing the King would be fun, any lore y'all?
@thorn trout I can do the wings theory again
Im curious what ||Eden|| and GW looked like before they got corrupted sjsnwkwnnna
no need to spoiler anything here
No need to spoiler it
O noice
Im curious what ||Eden|| and GW looked like before they got corrupted sjsnwkwnnna
@night tulip Eden is referenced as the storm so it probably was already like the normal mountiain. With rocks and stuff
Oooh yeah I've been thinking about that
eden and gw were probably really beautiful because ya know,, eden, garden of eden
The crystals and the pipes where probably added by the king
They probably looked like factories, with all that pipes
Eden must have been filled with sky kids
and i think gw got the 'golden' part of its name from back when it was not so stinky
Fully done ark is what uncorrupted wasteland looks like
Eden was obviously the center piece, and with the huge diamond...
I imagine it used to be like a Grand Plaza, with the diamond in the middle. Gold and bright, people and buildings alla round.
I have a theory that king is a giant skykid
who is the king
Eden was obviously the center piece, and with the huge diamond...
I imagine it used to be like a Grand Plaza, with the diamond in the middle. Gold and bright, people and buildings alla round.
@thorn trout the diamond is evil,tgc said it lead to the kingdoms downfall
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@thorn trout the diamond is evil,tgc said it lead to the kingdoms downfall
@scenic hedge
Yeah, but that doesn't mean it wasn't uncorrupted before.
Eh I can’t convince you so I’ll leave it alone
I think the king named Eden that because he thought it would bring them back to orbit,aka heaven
You. Don't need to. XD
The Eden Diamond probably IS why it fell, but before that, it was likely just a power source for the kingdom, from my point of view.
Anyways.
And also to inflate his ego BUT
I like to believe that the diamond was inactive before then
ego fuel ego fuel ego fuel 
Tbh, who knows at this point
I mean naming your kingdom after the literal gate to heaven is a little egocentric
But anyways
New Theory that I have that is completely unrelated to the discussion rn: Why are we always meditating to get to new places? In order to resume our adventure we meditate on the home portal, in order to leave we meditate once more to go home. Are we actually moving to different areas or is everything we experience just happening in our skykid's head while we meditate at home?
woah
i was kinda spooked by the office
in the context of meditating in the elder temples, the cutscenes that follow take place out of space and time, like in pocket dimensions? so i guess that would be like being transported to another area
What who deleted that message? It had an interesting observation.
Me
I liked the added observation of the home portal having light on it.
Yeah, I think meditating brings us to areas that aren't quite in the game itself, but still act as relevant spots we are aware of.
Our light is connected to areas,the home shrine is connecting us back to the average area,not always the right place but the best It can do,we khow all places have some connection to the light so that would explain why the home shrine works,or the statues could just be special idk
yeah, something like what lilly said
excluding meditation spots at least and the meditation spots that do stuff like open gates or boats
Or that the home shrine traces little bits of light we leave behind and connects to that to bring us back there
Hey!
Yeah @scenic hedge those statues are kinda everywhere in sky, and we use it as a form of transportation thru meditation. I wonder who built those and why they're the key to traveling between the home realm and sky world
I think that the statues work in the same way white candles work
Care to elaborate?
i think those are the same statues you see in eden and also around in social areas (oops made a mistake)
they've been around ever since the concept art 
Those statues kinda look like the vault elder/spirits from vault, right? I wonder if they were the ones who built those to help the next generation of sky children in their adventure across the realms.
By "look alike" I mean they both kinda have a head covering, but other than that they don't really have a lot of similarities.
that is possible, the scholars share the closest with those statues as far as i know
maybe it was an archaic version of a scholar
like how irl we have statues of people dressed in greek or victorian clothes...we don’t dress like that anymore but we still honour the history
well, epic people still dress like that
maybe i should search more topic about meditation and its importance in sky world 
Wait maybe full sentence?
Could also be that it was a deterrent. Not meant to kill.
So it was random then
@short owl Hi here you go
it's kinda random in that skybot doesn't always reply but it was because you said prophecy which is one of the trigger words i think
anyway i'm scared
fear
what if the prophecy isn't fulfilled
what will happen
that is, if we can even figure out what really is the prophecy
more fear
The prophecy??! *don't trust what the Elders say!!*
Ominous advice
the future is already written bruh...
The prophecy once foretold of skykids that never rest. They never saw the darkness that swiftly engulfed them. Don’t forget to charge your phones 
I GOT ONE
We need to make a list
The prophets foresee everything 👁️
We can search for them in search bar
The symbol’s so hard to type...
It'll take quite a while doe
The elders are
Intriguing
Nope don't work this time
I've only gotten the chosen one message and that one
Wait skybot talks about how the cycle continues- but he just said that isn’t what the prophecy foretold- are we going to break the cycle? Has this happened before-
The voice of @elder zenith is a whisper that echoes through the ages. May we meet again in the Eye of Eden!
Hehe I got one-
WOO
legend has it that ... everything will change
Theory supported
It's like a bingo game
Yeah
Gotta catch them all
Night!
Ok bye
Lol-
Umm
Skybot has told something about elders and prophecy
Prophecy? WHERE?! 
Prophecy?
Surely you didn't propheSEE this one coming 
Prophecy?
I got one too 
sneep doesn't help with the prophecy, skybot is lying
i heard a great call ring out in the skies...is it....the prophecy?

I suspect the sneep one is a meme cause people are constantly telling eachother to sneep
Sneep is the chosen one from the prophecy-
Sneep snorp

Missplelled sleep
what if krill was just a corrupt manta? And wasteland used to be a sanctuary-like area, untill some sort of sludge thing spilt and caused everything to go down.
... So if the only way to get through what is to come, why is Ayin the only one sneeping
It’s possible- although I personally think that krill were the cause of the corruption
Sorry random thought
Fair
but where did the krill come from
Sneep is great
thats what im trying to think about
Well, mantas come from the light- so krills could come from the dark
Dark might just be a normal thing
Just like light, but not Megan's
That could mean an entire class of species created to be creatures that don't go to or come from Megan
megan???
Megabird
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Personally I think we are one, built to cary and care for light
Where does darkness originate from in Sky world? Not kingdom, but world. The Elders are the "fallen stars" and they fell because "they didn't listen" so it's fair to assume that darkness may have existed before they made their kingdom in the clouds aka darkness might have existed even in Orbit. 
Maybe underground?
Hmm that’s a good question-
that's the exact thing missing on my theories.... i just don't have a slight bit of idea 
Ground would do a good job of blocking out light, and would be good for darkness to first form
Over time it can seep out, become able to handle exposure to light, and begin studying the light in the sky

But like- there’s empty places between things when you fly to orbit- so what if it’s that?
Light gets curious back. A few experiments later you have mixed creatures like crabs (light in eyes). Some development continues and experiments progress and you get ancestors which have light and dark
Darkness is just the absence of light too...
From a scientific standpoint at least
Like how ‘cold’ is just the absence of heat
You can only get so cold- or so dark
Well- the absence of energy-
Usually mater
that's exactly what i thought before, but what if the darkness is more like... wait wait wait nvm
True- but even in the vacuum of space there’s a temperature
A vacuum (no atoms) with no heat may not actually be cold
Space isn't fully empty though
There are very small amounts of stuff to hold heat
Like trace amounts of gases and dust as well
I think i have an idea
but im not ready to explain yet, im not pretty... sure about it
Sometimes it helps to try to write it out
I just need some time
Since i'll be having my entrance exams [for highschool
] preeetty soon im just a little busy
But i'll definetely come back to write it here 
Alright, i gotta go study now 
Goodbye everyoneeee 
Byeeee!
What if is the "rebel" being, a creature above the other Elders in Orbit, rebelled against Megan and he was casted away? The perfect being that developed pride in Sky paradise (aka Orbit.) Like the original "rebel" that "invented" darkness opposed to Megan's light. cough Aleph cough. So he corrupted the other Elders. He brought them with him in the clouds and proclaimed himself the leader, the king of the greatest realms of them all with the other Elders, his banished-from-Paradise kinship, to lead what was left of the kingdom.
I think we all know where this is going....
Anyways, they built the civilization, used its resources (magic, light creatures, nature, etc.) and proclaimed themselves as the leaders over the locals (the spirits).
Then, in an urge to seek revenge for his banishment he wanted to take the Sky realm to the next level via technology which only turned out to be the kigndom's downfall (and his death).
Then skykids came along...
wait, wait, wait. what if, what if the diamond thing had something to do with the kings corruption. >->
nvm, you just said that
lol
Hey guys I found this mural in sanctuary, in the winged light corner of the jelly call cave, anyone here want it ?
this single handedly has to be the most posted image in lore chat by now...
it is a bug
Dammit, aight next time then 
Well, the diamonds are the equivalent of technology in Sky. They fly boats, open doors, store knowledge, and so on. These diamonds were the common ones.
Pipes and all the rest of stuff we see in Prairie, Forest, Wasteland and Eden are just pieces of technology, the factories and all the other annexes used to create diamonds.
The huge diamond in Eden might be a result of the King's wish for revenge to Megan as I previously mentioned in my theory. Maybe I'm wrong, he wanted to improve Sky and he's not the fallen guy, just a king. Whatever the reason, it's almost certain that the Eden diamond it's the cause of Sky kingdom's fall.
Does anybody knows if in game seasons ?(Summer Winter Spring Autumn)
After the Prophecy update the changed textures and lighting make me wonder about that.
I know there was an Ice Rink in HomeSpace too, but I mean, could the seasonal changes in climate be visible in lights too.
For the example the underwater lake is much brighter now, as if it could be used as a solar calendar which is hit more by sunshines in a certain period of the year?
Can anyone confirm if this feature was the same an year ago?
the main reason for the underwater update was just to make it look more like it’s actually underwater under ice
and the ice rink could be related to the fact the season’s original name was « winter season »
So, it was the first time the underwater is so bright?
...and what about the texture is Valley? It looks more full of snow right now
They are mainly texture changes for better improvement, nothing related to seasons
Jus simple updates with tweaks in texture
Same with the underwater part
They wanted to make it look better and have an “underwater” vibe to it
Not bc it’s a new season
Anyone else think the prophets made the sky kids?
Hm I never really thought about who or what made the sky kids
All theories are welcome 
For me, I think the elders made them
Or I felt like the king did but I’m trying to figure out his theories n stuff for now
I came as fast as I could!
@pastel brook proud of you
Cause when I saw this: https://youtu.be/3dNShWJ0jiY (the intro)
I noticed that they’re saying “if only they listened” and the ones who told the prophecy were supposed to be the prophets
Hmm 👁
“With the stars united, our light was infinite”
The prophets weren’t in the Intro and I doubt they were alive when the elders fell
But who’s the one talking in the intro-
The spirits they interact with are actually newer spirits that aren’t too old, they weren’t alive when the elders fell, those were the ancient ancient ancestors
Since the prophets interacted with a recent group of ancestors, it’s safe to say that the prophets didn’t exist when the elders fell either.
So overall, I highly doubt the prophets are the ones in the intro
Interesting :O but then what prophecy could they foretell then?
Unless the prophets manipulated their age, it’s not possible
That we will have to figure out when the season progresses
We only got 1 piece of the mural, why not wait for all of them so we can finally see what this whole prophecy is about
Who’s cheering at the races
hi, lore chat 
I see we're as dead as ever~
i've always wondered, why does the hide and seek spirit have the chibi mask?
spirits give cosmetics that they wear/are relevant to them, so how is the chibi mask relevant to the hide and seek spirit?
could it be related to childhood, perhaps?
cuz kids play hide and seek
yeah, and also chibi in japanese is a word used to refer to children

so basically child mask
Btw, about the ages of sky children and spirits etc.
I have a theory for that 
@hushed steeple actually, that's how the word chibi is originated in sky. credits to japanese players
What if.... the elders were created as the elders at the first place 
And the sky children don't age too
Aaaand the spirits... 
Eeeh, my thoughts are pretty incomplete

But ancestors have children
We know cause of sightseer
Look the kid is adorable
Next time you relive the spirit, watch the cutscene. They're baby
smol baymax
here's the sky food chain according to me:
Crebs eat darkness plants
Skykids eat Crebs
Mantas eat Skykids
Krills eat Mantas
and Whales eat Krills
and maybe spirits eat whales idk
M-mantas eat skykids? 👀
[jazz music stops]
I-I'm not very sure about that 
here's the sky food chain according to me:
Crebs eat darkness plants
Skykids eat Crebs
Mantas eat Skykids
Krills eat Mantas
and Whales eat Krills
bro spirits eating whales---
The crebs look like they either hate or love the light since they attack us 
And krills seem to eat any types of light creatures
What do the skykids really eat?
Or do we have to eat?
Whales eating krills... i have no single piece of clue for that, either to prove or disagree
these things can destroy a falling tower
we just photosynthesis
i don't think we need to eat to survive, we don't have mouths
and didn't the wasteland elder/the warrior ancestor have a whale to fight with?
I think i've read something like that before
explains the giant whale bones
Ok have none of you noticed how sightseers baby look like the sanctuary guide?
I just noticed the sightseer baby yesterday and I love them
So are we calling the prophecy guide Anubis god of the afterlife oorrrr?
if only @mossy bay had listened...

Lol-
I call him quest giver 
it sounds fitting somehow
I still say prophet of light-
...and I was the one who said I didn’t get people who quite like Rhythm QG and next thing I’m ‘wow’
anyway that’s irrelevant
i call him mr anubis
normally they are called questgivers
if u click on his “!” it says prophecy guide/questgiver
I prob should refrain from saying Master as to not confusing people
he seems like a master...
reason was Master in the sense of teacher
oh so master-apprentice? i like that
Calling the students novitates with someone else
(in chinese it sounds poetic)
I feel like this conversation is selfish
master halo
i been thinking about the beta leaks and feel like its revealing enough. qg looked like an ordinary ancestor spirit and in the live he’s still kinda familiar
imma call the qg mr halo
what beta leaks
i've legit just called the quest giver Fox Jesus this entire time-
Anubis is easier but eh
Fox Jesus I-
if it's Anubis it's a jackal- not a fox- but the halo won me over-
I was thinking about something
Its not lore, but it will look good in my opinion
A main villain in Sky
The name would be Quasark
And i have something like this in mind
But drawed on a wall
The light of the Quasark wall paint would be Red, like the Crystals
Nice- might wanna put it in general tho-
It’s a gorgeous mask on its own but the halo just completes and transcends it
I need to stop myself
Oooooooooooo.
random thought that came into my head
I can’t help that feel that descendants are made of stone or clay of some sort
The idea of them being constructs is honestly something I think about a lot with them
Same
Same- it haunts me in the bath-
should i go poop hunting again
Someone brought it up in general, thought it might be interesting so
Do the calls attract the creatures?
In Bird Whisperer’s cutscene, yes, but the others...?
When you do deep call around some butterflies they go to you
I’ve never seen Crab Whisperer’s (assumed name) cutscene if there is one - is there one, and if yes, what was in it?
The first spirit in broken temple area of golden wasteland.. was she crushed under the falling ceiling?
up to you
maybe she was just hiding from something bad
but unfortunately the temple collapsed
On her though- her name as Frightened Refugee
Was she seeking refuge or was she driven out from somewhere
did she hide from the darkness? we don’t know
Are skids the same species as ancestors and elders
Isn’t it like- subspecies?
i think so
it’s unclear, although i do have a theory regarding Ancestor-Elder-Skid lineage
Ancestor-Elder-Skykid Lineage
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That is such a good theory omg sjxbjscns
Ancestor-Elder-Skid lineage
Excuse me this was a very good read, I like your theories
I hunger for lore
do you wanna see my other theories ?
Ooh yes please 
We do
Time Loop Theory
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Lucifer Theory
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voilà
Beautiful *chefs kiss 
Historic moments in Sky reenactment ...
The first shinyboi ascends Eden
Yeah, doing Eden whilst shiny and with lantern out hurt
Hello lore peeps
I think I might have gotten beta spoiled here by accident dang
Omg that's bright
Wow someone called maelstrom!
That was my username in many of the games i used to play!
Is it inspired by carmen sandiego or just normal maelstroms or like me, from pirates of the Caribbean?
Hi lurkers...
I wondered.
The pendant is similar to the kings head.

It’s possible that the elders did use magic
And the prophets has been taught by them or taught them.
It's also similar with this
Hello people!!! I just have a question regarding the isle cave painting at the beginning
Who are these people praying?
I suppose spirits? I'm not really sure I don't come here often
Since the prophet spirits are a lot taller than normal spirits do you think they have more power/knowledge than the ancestors but not as much as elders?
Yes
I believe so
Since a prophet is usually someone sent by a higher power/being and have knowledge given to them by said power/being
what prophets? There is only skybot
Do you think height has anything to do with power
Cook, I hope you come looking for theories, cause we have no solid answers
we don't need sleep we need answers jkjk yeah theories are fine
Well the people praying could be considered lower class, going back to the class status in valley
But why are they praying?
Also about this falling star
I've heard about a cave painting that shows stars falling and was told they could be they elders falling because of their actions
I dont know if its this one tho
That would be the intro cutscene https://youtu.be/3dNShWJ0jiY
Thanks!!!!
As for why they’re praying, I assume it’s because their native religion regards stars as deities or something like that
When the star fell it looks different (Idk if it was intentional or not)
But it looks similar to the same symbols during the intro cut scene
That are on each kingdom
So I'm suggesting that those praying people were collecting things or "stars" that fell from the kingdoms
Those items are the subject of much deliberation since we’re not exactly sure what they symbolise
I used to think they were representing the elders but I’m not so sure about any conclusion on them anymore
I do think, at the very least, that you’re correct about the ancestors collecting them
Thank u!!!!
Hey so, you know how meditation circles are always on the ground and are usually on hard stone? What if meditation circles let us merge our body wih the ground the way light creatures merge with the clouds?

It would explain why home is a big ol stone: Our bodies use the stone to take form
It also explains why our light gets yeeted at the stone: That's where lightless skykids go when they are ready to sepearate from the ground and take on the light
First time sky kids (caterpillars) haven't taken form before, so they have to check it out
Why so we turn to butterflies?
... some caterpillars beome moths I think
do I have my species paths wrong
Are you sure "Moth" is actual lore?
Cuz isn't it a name the community gave them
Not actually supposed to be named that way it's just that the community named it that way becausr it looked like one
My rule: If it is in live and can be made into fun lore, it is lore.
Hm?
My point is it was just a nickname people in the community started using
Not actual lore attached to it
Make sense
iirc moths don’t have caterpillars, i think they have larvae
I thought caterpillar was used for both
Exactly
They are larvae
But I'm pretty sure their metamorphosis stage is quite similar
I mean.....being trapped inside a cocoon
Caterpillar is used for both
the thing is that moth isn't used in other communities though
the jp community calls them sparrows (very cute name btw)
I don’t think that Null was using it as a lore term anyway, I think they just used it for the sake of explanation
oo icic
Is it just me, or does this symbol seem more detailed than the other symbols...
I’m sure it’ll be fine! ..... Right?
yeah they all are pretty detailed
Okay, maybe I am overthinking
What were you thinking it indicates?
Idk, that its special?
Okay, I am definitely overthinking and being pretentious...
Tho its shading tho is deeper than the other symbols
I think
.-.
Well it is special, it’s the king’s symbol after all
I think that’s all we really need to know that it’s quite important 
i feel like tgc used the king’s symbol too soon
Hmm...
I suspect this is not the case. With two years planned, I suspect the king is just a kiddy pool
I feel like Season of Prophecy is pretty much ACT 1 in the story of Sky. Or the first chapter that sets us on our true journey...
Tgc allows us to know of Them. So the question is: why
fun fact, the 8 pointed star is also known as the prophet’s symbol in islam
The prophet is in
yes
I think confinment in the basement is getting to skybot, there is nothing in the basement except || the prophecy ||
The prophecy foretells that @hushed steeple... ||Will actually have a very good day today||
prophecy, prophet, trials are some examples but there's no guarantee skybot will respond
skybot has some
very interesting responses
maybe someone should compile all the possible lore-related responses from skybot 
Wait, Sky is based off of the Hero's Journey template like Journeuy, right?!?!
well they both follow the hero's journey format, yes..?
I found out one of the stages of this Hero's Journey is called "The Road of Trials"

Ignore the bot
The description of this stage fits perfectly with the trials our Skid faces!
Sounds like the trials our skid goes through!
The next stage sounds like the rewards or probably murals the skid sees after going through the trials. Gaining tools to continue on the journey.
After that is interesting...
Temptation.
reminds me of vault too
Yeah
I think the base game of Sky is also meant to follow this template
But with the Seasons, I believe we'll actually get some solid storyline with the Seasons.
Also mimicking the Hero's Journey
how many aspects of the hero’s journey are there to this point ?
I noticed one of them is called "Atonement with the father" I remember that being in the concepts
When we save the Prince
yeah, Eden
There's kinda a lot of stages when I checked
The one that fits the most currently is the Road of Trials
how many come before that
Butter Prophet, there is one thing that's different though
The prophets have spoken and they said @short owl would come and save us all 
All hail
not this again
Okay first of all, Skybot, stop trying to doom us all.
the original analysis consisted of 17 events spread out in 3 stages, though not all hero's journey include all of them
Yeah, I had to reread it again cause I think I misunderstood the layoit a bit
Road of Trials is the first phase of the Initiation
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger 
Second of all, "aided by advice/amulets/secret agents does NOT describe us during the trails. It's only here that we are DENIED our supernatural aid
Cape, spells, and items
One description of ot seems to describe it
Even in Eden we are allowed those things, but not in the trials
I do not argue against the first part, just the second
Yeah
All of it most likely won't be used tho
If the next Seasons have story arcs that follow each other, they may follow this Hero's Journey.
The description of the first stage, Departure, kinda already describes our whole journey from Isle-Eden and rebirth without the other stages
From?
"time divides each contender"
it is up to the hero's internal realization that he is able to pass the successive trials

That be cool , form growing up and old the main 6 worlds, to the hero’s journey, sessional arks
I think the concept of a trial is to test the hero's worth

it is kind of rherotical though because the hero would always pass the test
otherwise the journey stops there
True
Road of Trials happens to be only the first phase of Initiation
I did have a feeling Season of Prophecy is just the first act of the real stuff about to happen
I’d kill to see the TGC internal road map
Since the devs did have 2 years worth of content planned, that further proves it
2 years ahead , really?
That makes me happy
Yeah
i believe the "Road of trials" where the seed or will of the hero is implanted in him, one he must not lose amidst external temptation and manipulation, in a way slaying the dragon is not the climax, the progression to the act is, if that makes sense
Commme on new wolds
It would be interesting to see a Season...
Based off of the third phase of initiation...
To sum it up, its temptation

The prophets of butter
I can only think of one thing
I have an idea about what it could be, but... I'm not sure how that's gonna be put into a Season...
Like 10 stars within reach but with a catch
A secret 5th?
I got another idea I can't spell out, but as I said, I can't see how it can be put into a Season. Its better suited for some cutscene or something
Well that black hole thingy-
But with the temptation part... Could it be related to what Skybot said about not trusting the Elders?
Well don't hold back! Beat arund the bush
VAGUE MAKES BEST LORE MATERIAL
gets too close to butter prophet's messages
Are the Elders gonna make us want to do something that... make us gonna repeat the mistakes of the past??

I live for the Elders being sus in some way
Oh, I could see it
Lol
But problem... we get one character.
There's 0 chance I'm gonna want to choose one path over another
I HAVE to see both ends
Hmmm
And so the children of the dark were born
that could be a meta message of sorts-
So you'd rather do bad stuff first to see what happens rather than the right choice..?
That sorta thing ye

Cave:children of the dark
I don't think it will be obviously bad stuff. I suspect we will have two potentially good choices ahead of us, and have to make a choice about which we value more
A choice has consequences though
"two roads diverge in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference."
Im thinking more of a choice, one not seemingly bad and helps the Elders, but could have consequences that repeat the mistakes of the past.
The other is the choice that will help restore the Kingdom. Elders may not like it, but its the choice to make things right
You know people are going to look at it from a game play point of view, the mid max’ers
Take your pick.
Maybe it will be take the lead and refuse the position?
Like you can accept the power to handle things on your own. You go up against the worst challenge the world has to offer, makinng your stand alone.
Meehhhh, hard to explain without the other theories locked in my basement-
Open it!
No.
Have at it,..oh
Or you refuse to lead, and instead share the gift. You and your friends can face the challenge together
Let me guess. Starts with B, ends with A, and is one of the few things banned in this chat
I'm thinking... gah, really hard to explain without those other theories
I have no idea what the context is at this point
I prophisized the beta would be annoying
What I was thinking is that one choice benefits the Elders but has consequence
The other choice benefits the world of Sky.
Take a pick.
Hold on
Who among you is in the current beta
I dont play Beta
Ah ok
Got ya
What I was thinking is that one choice benefits the Elders but has consequence
The other choice benefits the world of Sky.Take a pick.
the classic you can't please both worlds scenario
Yeah, what Lambda said in a way
there is one morally justified path, one which is tormented by the hero's emotional attachment and personal desires, which he must give up everything that he once cherished, this is the stage where the hero dissolves his "self"
oh no, we are heading straight into the trolley dilemma
I-
Ooh
Hmm... when life gives you two paths
The Return Stage has "The Magic Flight" phase
push the boundaries to make a third
oh, i thought you were going to say something else Null
The Magic Flight sounds like Orbit, but it makes me think of something else...
Like...
How we truly restore the Kingdom or something-
when life gives you two paths, you get decision paralysis
Now I imagine Eden is the kings princes home before it all went to hell
I mean, somewhere in a distant future or something
At least not in this chapter, but in the last one to finish it all off?
When we get reborn, we get to do it all over again~
i don't think the narrative at least presented in sky needs a definitive end, technically it can't, but having a definite end scenario would solidify the lore and limit interpretations which i presume is not TGC's intentions
i pretty much learnt this the hard way but yeah
Oof, maybe...
Ok here's a thought
We were told to bring the stars home in the beginning. Most end game decisions are usulally a wrap around, so it's likely this end game decision will be like that too
Unless they make all those events vague somehow
That won't entirely ruin things... Maybe?
how do you make an ending vague? technically a cliffhanger but i don't call that an end
.-.
an definitive end*
Perhaps the decision will be to return ALL spirits and the elders to orbit to stay, and also we get to stay, or to choose to instead turn down orbit and declare the planet our home

The former is "success", the later is "banishment"
The later fulfills the prophecy, annd we become officially falllen
The former is... empty in all honesty, but it breaks the cycle.
So the question we must answer becomes: "where is home"
The reason why I think we may end up restoring the Kingdom in a way is due to my theory about Prophecy.
I can't say yet tho
this is absolutely unrelated but why is the isle elder not on the eden door? or maybe I'm blind
Want the boring answer or the interesting answer?
both?
Boring answer: Isle was seen as a tutorial realm in Beta so he's not on the door, as the door is the same from Beta
Boring: Isle elder wasn't really supposed to be an elder. He's more just a dude who manages thhe boats as you come in
eden elder?
we all get freudian slips sometimes
Interesting Answer: The Isle Elder got kicked out of the team of Elders which is why he's not on there
mmm
Or there's the theory Lammbda has
Tho my headcanon is that Isle Elder is extremely humble despite being the most important Elder, so he just doesn't want his face on the door
Sometimes too humble that it weirds out the other Elders
what theory, i had a theory about the isle elder?
i think i forgot half of my theories already :/
Oof
well the door is not built by the elders themselves or like this not their biggest concern, like local idk english word architects? desginer? engineers? whichever, are the ones that make those decisions I guess? So maybe it could be "people of the sky kingdom looked down on the isle elder" ?
or maybe just it's d o o r fr om b e t a
Yea but that last ones boring-
maybe it has something to do with why his mask/face is all messed up when we first meet him? or maybe that's just him being worn out or something
i can't tell so I will now go to sleep 
Wait can someone show pic of Eden door-
I have a theory but i just wanna confirm something before I share it
Like this?
Shoot I’m blocking some of it aren’t I-
huh just noticed you recharge when you stand on the big rock platform at home
Hhh I can’t get a better one-
And it's night which make it more unclear
prairie elder gud too >:0 !!
Containing butterflies in jars for later uses yeah that's good
Id say Prairie is also the nicest
He's probably always overlooked
He's a farmer, yet he's also a protector of the light creatures

Explains why Prairie is the least corrupted
If only a lot of ppl in our world was like him-
also Sanctuary is technically in Prairie
Yep
I feel like Forest Elder and Prairie Elder are opposites
Come to think of it...
There's seems to be some Elders that contrast each other in a sense
Isle-Vault
Prairie-Forest
Valley-Wasteland

Could we be the contrast of the King?
Cause the King is the odd one out
found this in Eden today- ppl call it blue moon - I call it a ball of rock. But what is it-
Hello lore ppl
Its like... the cross for Sky, but its circles instead
I think its circles rather than diamonds. At least, when it came to the Light
Circle around the king symbol-
The circle does explain the halo on anubis's head
Maybe its the circle AND the THE LIGHT sign put together like the crowns of north and south egypt..


Maybe the circle means someone is in power or in lead
Idk
Well, circle represents an infinite, timeless or cycle. And well, eden and uh yea-
i have a question. in sky, why is everyone so slow?
eg, the headstand in prophecy. prophecy questgiver’s motion before beating the drum.
taking seconds to laugh. telekinesis - lifting off your heels dramatically before leaning forward and doing the magic. also, forest elder taking a solid second to summon the hammer and later another seconds to gather together the stones, even with light restored.
everything is slower here and not very agile
DRAMATIC EFFECTS- jkjkjk, maybe cause after eden explosion everything became more fragile so we have to move slowly???????????????????? Idk, not good at lore-ing
? im sure ancestors and elders are very adapted. we are the prince’s reincarnation and pretty good at copying. not perfect but ok
the thing is, telekinesis is very slow even for ancestors
Well the headstand looks like it’s for yoga maybe and it ties in with the spirituality of prophecy, idk about the others
everyone's like
dead
i guess that's why they're slower
well besides the elders, they've been in limbo solitude for a long time
I mean-
and skids are kids so it's understandable they'd be energetic
Telekinesis could just be charging energy
Yeah, the ancestors are literally ancient, the first elder has to like put himself together
We need to examine the memories of all the spirits first guys
To understand how thyy died or what's their lore
if you think about it all of us love to rush nowadays, sprinting, spamming the boost button and all that
If u watch a movie, things like that happen at that speed 2
so the question would be: does everyone else move too slow or do we move too fast?
adios
I think It's because we move too fast
We're skykids are kids after all
we speed speed
Nyooooooom
Skids do be fast
Im hot garbage at flying
Also regarding the tuna king and whale discussion a while back, isn’t the “whale” we see in Sanctuary an actual whale and not a tuna king? It looks different than the ones we see in forest and maybe ||before orbit||, although I haven’t been to ||eden|| in a while
some days I'm a flying pro
other days I slam my skid body everywhere
some days I’m a flying pro
other days I slam my skid body everywhere
@hybrid oxide
Literally same
The one in Sanctuary looks like elder manta from concept art
Does anyone have any art of the whales and things like that?
Citadel is the place I divebomb
Yeah, I took some screenshots if you want me to send them
Although only of the sanc one
sure!
/oh yea also no need to spiler orbit in here
Oh ok, so only beta is spoiler then
Also regarding the tuna king and whale discussion a while back, isn’t the “whale” we see in Sanctuary an actual whale and not a tuna king? It looks different than the ones we see in forest and maybe ||before orbit||, although I haven’t been to ||eden|| in a while
@urban ginkgo The whale/tuna king is the one we see in the orbit cutscene
we don't talk about beta here
The one in sanctuary is what's called an elder manta
Isn’t the tuna king in the GW too?
And then there was me who spoiled the whole season of prophecy
I got beta spoiled here by accident earlier and I'm still salty
Isn’t the tuna king in the GW too?
@mellow falcon Social area GW yes
Isn’t the tuna king in the GW too?
@mellow falcon Technically between valley and Wasteland social butterfly place
I didn’t
I just talked about how the season feels like Avatar last air bender
Oh Mmk
Nyeh not everything about the 4 elements have to do with avatar
True
Yea
But that’s just me being weird lol

Anyways is it still a beta spoiler of i say something like "Prepare yourselves everyone its a hard trial" abt the next trials
I dont think so
I don't think so 
You're just saying that its gonna be hard
I think everyone knows the next trail is hard
That's good since
Just warning us, not spoiling us
WIND TRIAL IS HARD
no, but you're on thin ice
I can see that
PREPARE YOURSELVES
I see
Earth and water is ez
I mean, hand stand is BALANCING
Isn't the next one earth?
yep
Uea
That makes we look forward to it more now
Cant wait for that one ngl
I finished it in 6 mins
Is it in the order of the totem in the middle? I saw water markings in the bottom
Cant wait for fire trial and my 129348574891238472 deaths in there
Maybe this convo should be moved to #seasons-events-chat ?
And i finished water in less than 7
anyway, back to lore
Yea we're just having a little break
But bewae of the wind trial it is hard
It took me almost 4 hours to complete 0.0
Good lord
Welp... The last trial is the most basic but the hardest one 
Beware!
RIP me and my trash flying
Yep
Oh yeah, are the murals on the ark related to anything or just the stories of those spirits? I just finished the quest yesterday so I didn’t look at them that much yet
Except for the one
Took me 9 mins
hmm there was discussion here that the ark mural has connection with Lightseeker spirits or something
You sound narcissistic XD
Oh yeah, are the murals on the ark related to anything or just the stories of those spirits? I just finished the quest yesterday so I didn’t look at them that much yet
@urban ginkgo and yes
Tho I'm not sure abt the air trial
I lost track of time
So it might be like 1-3 hours
Anyway, about the prophecy mural after we completed water trial
The Prophecy is here? Hide!! 
The spirits died in a storm right?
I remember having a conversation about the murals in the ark
No they didn't
and yes
@blissful peak Yes doesn't answer that question XD
Eh, there was another theory
they died after their ark was rammed by krill right?
Was it not a yes or no question? Oops
Oh wait i didnt read the question properly haha
The scare spirit trying to grow crops
The play fight spirit scouting using the other broken ark
The confused spirit was trying to cleanse the water
The sleepy spirit tried fixing the ark
I forgot the others
nod spirit was the one drawing the mural
Yep
/crab walk
We did that one
Enchantment was kinda dark ngl
/he did nothing but love him anyways
Yea
Crab walk did try to study the crabs
But all died to to thirst and starvation
My theory was that there we're actually
Many
Many
More spirits
There is a lot of boats
Well they traveled in groups
One krill managed to make that mess
I'm impressed
The main ark aka the biggest one was the lead
Lol a krill did all that yet they can't kill children 


/gatorade femur
Skids made out of electrolytes
the ancestor was most likely flesh when they were alive
O.O
/are they alive?
were
/like are the ancestors still alive?
W E R E
/well, why no bones then
/maybe they be stars from the start
Buried under the sand?
🤷♀️
/well, what about the other realms
Guys remember Sunwood?
We don’t know how long it’s been, they could’ve just disintegrated completely by now
In this channel
ive been sleeping for a while hahej
I have hc that some ancestor spirits are stars but with human-like body (with flesh and all)
we see some gravestones throughout the realm tho
I have a theory that the elders made the skids, but that’s really it tbh
Gtg guys
Oh, yeah. Forgot graves existed
See ya
Cya
see ya
Didn’t Megan create the skids?
Ima go watch danganronpa
/auntie cant prove you're wrong yet so please elaborate
Welp there goes my theory 💀
I doubt they can make anything while in their limbo prison
/teth made a diamond tho
/who said they can't make a skid
/although i doubt that
Not jus teth 
Teth needed light tho
sometimes been thinking about eden is some conspiracy & we’re made to perpetuate the diamond
Fismond?
Lol
ohmybird i was tired
Oh lol
/perpetuate the cycle!!!
/flos had a similar theory about perpeptuating cycles too
/ wait a minute assignment friend
Guys i noticed some eerie similarities between 40k and sky..
/ a censored word??
So anybody have any idea of what prophecy is about?
/ren, it's a yesnt
tell
/anyone who has been in beta will know
a terrifying part of sky is there’s no way of knowing whether we are really just unwitting agents manipulated into doing things to some puppeteer’s bidding, while we think we are helping people and being kind … for example what if giving lights to eden statues gives the opposite effect of what we think and so on
there
/yo wait a minute assignment friend, are you palechild????
imo the prophecy season ... lowkey parallels to avatar that im afraid the prophecy itself does so too
in a way we are kinda like avatar
Guys i noticed some eerie similarities between 40k and sky.. see. The horus heresy is almost identical to the corruption of the king and the fall of the stars.... the fall of the aeldari is almost the same as the fall of eden and the kingdom... i wouldnt be surprised if the mushrooms turned green and painted everything red!
/would that be eden?
Huh?
/everything do be red in there
just went to the cave of prophecies and took a look at the mural. it seems they added something else... 
or my game bugged badly once more
Oh but then everything should go faster... if its red.... cuz of ork magic... orks r just green mushrooms
/everything do be red in there
@gilded fossil
Its a 40k thing...
/noom wdym they added sth else?
I dont see it....
this in an older version I compiled
Omg theyre probably waving at the prince or king as he flies by in his boat!
/is that the child of light tho???
More likely the king or prince
A GOLDEN CHILD ON THE BOAT 
Cuz its the origin story of sky
Likely a former col before us?
/maaaaybe????
The mural is an origin story folks... its prob the prince
I know those people waving to something!!!
/yaaaaaasssss
is first park of gw (broken temple) forest temple??
you see that gigantic golden disk in first area?
I havent updated my game yet hang on
Similar, but the forest temple isnt the broken temple
I just woke up
most likely the first krill area was a power diamond factory too
Yes
is first park of gw (broken temple) forest temple??
it's not necessarily the same place, although they do share similarities in structure
Yep, it got the same manta juicer like in forest
it might be timetravel, someone suggested
U sound like dirk gently too
most likely the first krill area was a power diamond factory too
ah so i was correct
yees 
The goose game
gshsvgs
Did they fix the glow issue noooooooo-
/so any theories on that
Flos, tell me if you see the shiny boi too
Aaaaa i cant pretend to be a wl again 
Lets find out the lore on the glow
/ and do please not stray too far from lore?
Lika an in universe explanation



