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Megakrill stole the birds
Megakrill pulled a fast one on them
/okay i just looked at the pic and notice that the cloud passage way from social space to butterfly fields has king statues (?) but like, it's a cloud passage way how do they put those pillars there, there is 0 ground to place them on
/do the thing just levitate?
/ let's play cool design choice or lore
/ personally. i think one is you, one is for the ancestors, and one for the elders
i say cool desi- i mean lore

/either vault or isle
/is this why vault isnt on the eden door??
Hmm intresting
/or is that the 5 closets you can get tho
Oh, flipped kreby krab is back btw
I see six connected dots. One is missing, and three dots unconnected. Interesting...
Wb you too Ice Kreb
/six but one is towards you
No wait, there are 6, one is missing, not two
If one 'elder' is missing? I mean, what other thing can be?
/one is missing??

Oh wait... maybe is not counting eden elder/king
Who is the eden elder btw? Is confirmed, right?
But there's a figure that represents a elder in the eden?
I have this random head canon that the eden elder ✨died✨
ah a classic
With no supporting evidence so ignore that oof
tell us
/yes please
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Tho arent all the spirits already ded
Maybe
/deadnt
Everything in sky is either obviously destroyed or abandoned and greatly deteriorated.
They've been gone for a long time.
Aliven't and deadn't 
/or gatorade
... My mind just told me tbat the elder constilations used to be one. We have yet to connect the constilations
.v.
/yea
We return them to the stars but they are still broken
/but look at the symbol where you see the constelation, it looks like one is pointing towards us and the other five towards the stars
What if the elders are actually immortal 
/maybe
/ forgive horrible art
/so like what i see is, 5 pointing upwards and 1 pointing down
/now it would make more sense to have 6 poiting up
sorry if i'm interrupting :<
/ oh koma do please continue
thanks
alright so, the other day people were talking about spirits being stars too, right? well, spirits and elders do have similar colors
i'm bad at this go easy on me
Well, blue means loss or death. Spirits are blue cause they ded, Elders are blue cause they lost their light or something. But yeah, I noticed that too
/why seasonal dudes glow orange then
spirits only start glowing orange once you give them ascended candles
It could just be like that to make them seperate from normal spirits
/nah the ascended glow yellow
Since Seasonal Spirits when they return as Travelling Spirits, they're blue
Seasonal Spirits are more warm orange than golden yellow
When you unlock wing buffs from other spirits, they turn golden yellow. Seasonal Spirits are more warm orange.
It could just be like that to seperate them from normal spirits. Besides, we don't really use wingbuffs on Seasonal Spirits, and don't need to ascend them or something
We only do that when they return as TS, and they're blue, I think?
I'm not sure tho
/ aw man game mech not lore again
Oof 
seasonal candles are orange so i guess they made the spirits orange too to match
That's the tricky bit with lore. Gotta know which is lore, or which is just game mech-
/well, some season candles are blue
Yeah, but not anymore
😎
/it's okay koma
Dont worry, we all have theories that get debunked from time to time
/yup
/ no one has tried debunking skid = gatorrade im wining
/hmm, why is the bottom isle?
Isle Elder's role is to shepherd people to the Light
The one on the bottom points up to the middle, which may be the Light
The five are the other Elders
So, is the oob sky castle probably just an unused Valley map? What do y'all think about it?
/ i left for two sec what
which oob castle?
@hushed steeple good answer
/the one with the water fall or the midnight thing
@gilded fossil the round one with the giant statues at midnight
in which map is yhat?
/ lemme find pic
Valley
/ wait isnt that place same the one in the rhythm cutscene?
Right above* Wasteland.
I figured it was one of the last defenses of the WL colonies, but we don't have official story on that yet
There's exactly 7 stars on the constellation in Orbit
Well, 7 in the constellation. There's some extra stars, but I dont think they count that much
But there are exactly 7 thats part of the main constellation there
@hushed steeple when you drop down the hole from valley to wl, you can glitch up above the ruins and bypass the wl clouds to get to the castle
Middle could be King/Prince
The bottom one must be Isle Elder. Since their role is to shepherd ppl to The Light
And Prince/King's constellation is The Light
/wait butterfly i see eight tho
when you drop down the hole from valley to wl, you can glitch up above the ruins and bypass the wl clouds to get to the castle
ive never heard of that oob
Yeah, thats what I meant by extra stars
But they're not part of the main constellation, so they don't count
The ones at each end represents each Elder I believe
/ah okay
Besides, we use this constellation at Home to look at the Elders' constellations, so it must be related to them
Also, interesting note here, is that there's 8 stars around the middle star. And Prince mask also has 8 points
/oh yea it does
can you show me what the prince looks like? and maybe give me a somewhat of an explanation on it? i just recently got into sky lore n id like to know a bit of it
Lore moff?
/oooh u seen lore moff doc>>>>
nope, first yime i hear of it
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/ 10-ish new faces have came since the survey went out im so happy
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goodbye new lore moff.
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@hushed steeple when you drop down the hole from valley to wl, you can glitch up above the ruins and bypass the wl clouds to get to the castle
@grim tundra @hushed steeple
It's very cool. I really hope they unlock it soon with a Season and/or new gate.
is there any kind of doc or stuff for the elders name??? i just want to save it to my sky lore stuff
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
thank you 
Oh! thank you very much
Is ||Eden|| a spoiler in this channel?
No
Oh, nice then
Who is this 6th Elder spirit?
Idk what is currently being discussed but i was thinking abt how more instruments are being added on sky each time and,,, electric instruments? Could they be powered by diamonds instead of electricity?
Who is this 6th Elder spirit?
vault
Vault mom
Yeah Idk why people call forest 'mom' when she's 'auntie' at best
Isn't Vault just Grandma?
Then who is mama
megabird
forest is aunt , vault is mama i think
Forest reads as older sister
Vault is more an aunt imo lol
The twins strike me as those weird fun cousins
What
?
I cant see- 
Lemme get my cellular data
Oho now i can
And damn Teth looks so different-
Precisely
I mean i can understand Teth as Diamond maker but shaman
thats new for me
Where does the headcanon she's a shaman come from? Just curious.
Old concept
Ah
The Prince explores forbidden forests with Shaman Ancestor and unearth dark stone matter that absorbs fire.
——Backstory Timeline
She used to be the one who introduced Aleph to Dark stone
Old concept of valley was a priestess, which is very different from today Valley elder 
This was back when the forest was forbidden rather than hidden
Heloo what are you guys discussing rn?
Old concept of the elders
oooooh
Forbidden Forest Woman
[REDACTED] Forest
in Forbidden forest, she forged diamonds long long ago
someone once said the wishing well was her space to pray for herself.
unfortunately, it was removed
@hushed steeple https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632004389137154048/759072268554338384/IMG_20200925_232202.jpg
Another star to be added to your star collection
its on the orbit
F l o s 
Lmaooo i cant get a better picture of it, maybe i can get anothe rone when i get to orbit in the future 
What's worse is that I just went through orbit
Bruh same-
I didnt even notice it-
I just noticed the symbol after scrolling up on this channel-
I did! But didn't think it'd be important... 
Well now it is important-

At home and after seeing the elders' cutscene
This one is clear enought
Credit to boop
Nice
Worth to be added tho- 
Anyway
Its quite interesting that there is 2 unfinished lines on that symbol
Yeah, that's the same I was thinking the other day when I was compiling the pics
Like, is that intentional? Is that mean tehre is actually 8 constellations? (Assuming the lines are representing the constells)
8 constellations, only 6 connected to the dot (i assume this is their leader or some kind like that) in the center
Hm
What is this conspiracy-
In the intro its only shown 6 constellations 
Concept art
Oh
In the intro its only shown 6 constellations
7 if you count eden
Wait, no
Could be 7 if you count the standing person in the middle
Im pretty sure the guy in the middle is actually the elders' leader 
I mean, it can be?
If we count eden elder and the twins as separated individuals, there is actually 8 elders
But since valley twins are counted as one constellation... there is 7 elders?
If you count the king as eden elder, yeah, could be
What if... the non connected dots actually representing dead constellation?
I cant fine a good word other than "dead" 
Huh
Uhh like, it can be that eden elder and prince/king are different beings? But that wouldnt make any sense-
Since it will contradicted with intro cutscene-
I've got no theories, flos
My brain is pretty dry ;;
Ahh ;-; same-
u see the isle elder teaching spirits before they died
Im pretty sure the guy in the middle is actually the elders' leader
I mean, it can be?
@bitter shale guy in the the middle is child of light/prince, who was likely given charge of the elders and abused his power, leading to the fall
He then took the form of the king, and started the industrial project
Oh..Err..Hello! :D
cave of prophecies is in in isle
Ya didn’t miss much
But I did miss you ;)
I doubt they would give us someone so tantalizing as the prince juuuust yet
I have arrived
what's happening here?
good question
prince/king talk it looks like
yas i'm back
i missed so much, i know
but now brb, i'm practicing the piano for the lesson
does anyone know when the next ts is
me no
That is not lore related buddy you can ask in #questions-and-help
Bleh
Makin theories about that symbol is exciting and yet confusing as well
-< srry
first time i seen butter, the legend that started the theory doc
Butter?
Butter, the man
(I think he's. The YTer too, right?)
there are like 4 butters in this server so idk
I know only 2 butters, its Butter Hoarder from yt and ButterflyGaming which is a regular here
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do u think megabird would make us horrifying in smallest and hidden ways like (if we have mouths) adding sharp teeth and eyes with black sclera
why though
imo if she is kind enough she knows we are defenseless against realms’ dangers so mb she would make us scary in sneaky ways
thats my idea of why
and also thats exactly my question
imo the point is that we’re defenceless 
........... it is?
it fits into my redemption/repentance narrative
basically megabird made the reincarnated king powerless to force them to be humble
Alone, defenceless, given a task he cannot complete AND forced to die on a daily basis?! Not even MY version of megabird id THAT cruel!
So what exactly do we kno about the whole sky origin????
Or storyline so to speak???
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Alone, defenceless, given a task he cannot complete AND forced to die on a daily basis?! Not even MY version of megabird id THAT cruel!
i’ve made my king cruel enough to deserve it
Do spells/potions/anything that changes you only affect skids? The chibi mask spirit isnt even a chibi herself
or maybe it failed and it just gave her a small head
That. Is somehow worse
But her being tall has nothing to do w it bc no matter how tall a skid is, the chibi mask will make them tiny
i think chibi mask reverses ur age and makes the pioneer younger
but skykids r half gods so it only has physical effects
...Skykids are demigods
Hide-and-Seek is just really tall; we see her without the mask
Do spells/potions/anything that changes you only affect skids? The chibi mask spirit isnt even a chibi herself
i remember someone made a theory that it can be her kid's mask
Well that just hurts
Imagine if it was her playing hide n seek with her kid one day and her kid went missing while trying to find her, and she only has her mask as a thing to remember her

that's kinda how the theory went
@inner comet STOP MAKING IT WORSE

i don't know if i hate that or not
it was that or killed by crabs

KOMA YOU TOO

IM SORRY JAGSBS
Sorry i just like angst 
everyone says that chibis are adorable but no one knows the story behind the mask 😔
But wait guys that's also worse
||or maybe kid spirits are really weak so when hide n seek's kid got attacked by crabs it was enough to kill her||
Because that probably means the mother died doing the exact same thing her child did.
I was sent here since I asked about what megabird is h e l p
Basically, god herself
So.. god is a giant pigeon basically?
birb
You can find it in the lore moff document
more like a phoenix but close enough
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Imagine if it was her playing hide n seek with her kid one day and her kid went missing while trying to find her, and she only has her mask as a thing to remember her
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@inner comet Harsh in Hindsight: children going missing is a common issue irl! i read an anecdote about her parent playing hide n seek with her kid and it went like that
aw i hope the mom is ok
aw
Ah
why is megabird ... a bird
But i think the kid getting crabbed is more believable
And more angsty 
Why are crabs crabs
mb its just the shock of accepting unconventional religion but irl our image of God is commonly … a “person” or something
imagine dying because of a crab
not a person but just not a bird
many gods are depicted as animals

im jared 19 except i never know religion
i think pagan/greek gods had an animal associated with them?
amazing
quetzalcoatl is a feathered serpent for example
and animal deities are common in north american indigenous religions in general i believe
im surprised you were able to pronounce his name right
: D
but in summary: animals of some sort as deities is not unheard of. frankly it’s about as common as humanoid deities, simply erased due to
[glances at christopher columbus]
selfish reasons
i know that egyptian gods especially are depicted as animal-esque beings
ye
im not immune to propaganda
yeah but they take a some what humanoid form rather than completely an animal
Also ive noticed something 
anyway i thought megabird is just this U shape with threads radiating instead of a phoenix ahah
i know that egyptian gods especially are depicted as animal-esque beings
that's all i know about gods
Magabird has a teardrop thing thats kinda similar to ours (yknow the teardrop thats in our wedges)
yes our wing meter looks like her
Plus the teardrop in our wedges are supposed to be our WL, and megan is basically light itself
Coincidence?


old wedges cause it’s old
maybe our capes are resembling megan
new wedges didnt change
lmao so we are both related to megan and the prince...
(also i think the prince has smth to do w our nature to copy)
(just something i came up)
prince: i can honk like a crab
tsadi: oh rly?
prince: WAWAWA
tsadi: … (knows thats not a real honk but cant point it out)
what does a phoenix even look like? i just think of it as a glorified vermillion bird
i just imagine it as the one from harry potter lmao
A Phoenix is basically a bird but made of fire (i think)
They are also somewhat immortal since they can be reborn
phoenixes tend to have long tail feathers and some sort of reddish colour scheme, and in general be very flowy
Bricky has already seen this but I'm going to hit y'all with an angsty hot take
There is, of course, the already-set parallel between the Sky children and the elders. The Elders destroyed a world, the children are restoring it.
But that's not where it stops.
The Elders see this as a second chance. The Skychildren see it as their only.
The stars get to go home after their mistakes. And if not, they still have a new generation to mold.
For the Skychildren, we don't have that choice. Our choice is eternal. To go through Orbit and be reborn, no matter how many people we save, because Orbit is not home to us like it is to them.
The Sky Kingdom is our home. It is our first and last chance to make something better, even if people leave us behind to pick up the pieces.
We are not to be used by the rest. We have to do this on our own.
And if we mess up, just like they did...
Well. Maybe there won't be a second chance.
thats the beauty about being reborn. you can do it again
that angst ties in w “we’re the prince and here to repent”
Not really, actually!
That's the depressing thing.
If we mess up multiple times, leaving the kingdom in the same disarray that we found it so long ago is pretty discouraging because we'll keep on being reborn and do things worse and being depressed and eventually just following the same fate as the Elders. Trapped between time and space, never to die and never to live.
megabird the world eater, i cant unsee this now, but then again in this perspective anything is possible given megabird is the creator
so heavily confirmation biased, but it is a cool interpretation
rebirth is actually a curse i think
mb megabird is canonically world eater, because like original concept all life things flow through her. she is their life source and that kinda involves some consumption
they all have to go through her in a sense
got to remind myself megabird is not a person. she is close to a god which means she doesnt think like us or mortal beinga
the incomprehensible
why though
right, philosophy is a human construct, i can not begin to rationalize
so megan is still a grey character I see
i just see her as fair
but I think god like characters are usually greyish in morals
and most god where created by humans
what
well if you believe that’s the case
the problem is I have no certainty myself over that
intense confused agnostic screaming
is that a reply to me?
Not you, the person above.
oh alright
In case someone is interested in Forest Temple entrance cutscene I made a video
I was curious about the similarity you can witness in just a couple of doors about the activation crystal rotating/flipping
I think this flipping is visible only when a door is opened for the first time while the second time the activation crystal is still in place, as the video show
It looks like it actually shows how diamonds were made...
The first video I mean
The origin of Diamonds? O.O
Hiii
Hiii
@thin dirge People said that the temple in the forest is actually a diamond factory
i wouldnt think ppl would tell a story using fancy locks irl
i guess during construction they just have to revere the king’s diamond production in a way even through designing unlocking methods
tmw you take environmental storytelling literally
/j
I mean... people tell stories out of all sorts of things. Why not locks?
Some artist probaby got heavily criticized for it way back when
it could also be taken as an advancement from cave paintings to mechanical stone carvings, another way Forest is related to technological advancement 
can anyone tell me what the upcoming Helloween Cape will look like, pictures
not the place, mate
Where ?
"everything is lore unless proven otherwise, i.e beyond reasonable doubt"
Here you go Goblins
https://thatskygame.com/news/event-preview-days-of-mischief
@limber fox
sky is secretly minecraft confirmed

I believe those are umbrella or head cover
Since i dont think people would put un-sticked picaxe on their head-
Maybe

those stick with cover thing might be umbrellas
And yeah it would makes more sense if those are hats
Large hat
they remind me of the lightseekers hat
Do you really think "proven otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt" stops me?
Everything is lore if it interacts in an imteresting way
how do you define interesting?
Also if they are umbrellas, then enchantment shops be holding out
@hushed steeple that lacks an answer
i dont really understand your comment null, is the IAP store lore?
i dont mean it in a harsh way
The answer is only no until someone finds a way to make it lore
I do not have a way to do so... Unless IAP are actually Megan showing favor to sky kids for reasons they cannot possibly understand?
Oops now it can be lore. Megan plays favorites and Sky Kids have no idea what determimes a favorite
i just- watched a video on sky and- IS THERE AN EDEN ELDER????!?!?!?!?
Well, there may or may not be
But there is meant to be a 7th person that may or may not be an Elder
there is and hes not ingame
AAAAAA
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That 7th person is the King, the monarch of Sky, but he’s not confirmed to be the Eden Elder
commonly theorized to be though
Are all the elders ded? Or Vault elder is the last one to survive?
elders are neither dead or alive
:oo
they are outside space and time
Yesn’t
superposition
A
Oops now it can be lore. Megan plays favorites and Sky Kids have no idea what determimes a favorite
ALD Productions#8129 thats horrible i wanna punt her
dammit
ima remove the @ even though that doesnt undo the damage
love how lore chat has almost unanimously decided megabird is a not-so-good person
not me lol
world eater
a bad godly entity? count me in 
we need good megabird theories
but as far as i know no-one beat the evil god challenge without loopholes
Theres also the other theory that the King did nothing wrong and the other Elders actually did something bad that caused the stuff at Eden to happen- 
well megan give us infinity reincarantion is that can be counted as good thing-
dépends on your interpretation
that can be a good thing if one sucks it up hard enough
i see it as a curse imo
i agree with bricky
at least theres a way to suck it up
im talking intentions
In Journey and the original concept of Sky, the rebirth thing was actually a reward for what we’ve done
at least megabird doesnt get ticked if you find a way to live with what she throws at you
That’s why I’m iffy on the “Punishment by permanent rebirth” thing
Because for all concepts of the storylines of TGC games, it was a reward rather than punishment
although cosmetics are expensive u just reap what you sow. you grind this much candles, you can buy this much. theres nothing that can stop you. and about the iaps screw them, you can live happily nonetheless. and megabird doesnt care about that.
she’s fair and im thankful for that.
you can choose to b miserable or b happy with what you got. she does nothing about it
i dont think sky has ARGs well not yet at least, am i correct? so any IAP shouldn't be considered as lore, because it essentially breaks the forth wall
i said that bc ive read earlier it is interpreted as lore by someone
imagine a sky ARG 
whats arg again? ive heard it but forgot
doesnt office kinda break that rule? or what purpose does office serve?
breaking the fourth wall
usually something with morse code, coordinates, websites, etc
easter eggs
office isnt lore related
ARG with skyskrits
oh okok im new lol
Clary#3359 thank you, I try. As for rebirth as a reward vs a punishment, I suppose what matters is what you are reborn into.
just my cent: i think there's really no good/evil figure in sky since it really is up to interpretation and viewpoint
they've all probably done good things, terrible things and they all have various reasons for whatever they did and it all may or may not even be their fault. i guess moral ambiguity like sky lore is done so you have more freedom to form your impressions on the figures
so i try not to classify everyone by good/evil i say as i take the opportunity to make fun of the king, his mech suit and ego whenever i can
tl;dr: i'm lazy to classify who's good and who's bad
via my interpretation of megan being fair without caring for anyone, i think she is morally grey as well
i dont think we actually rebirth
Sleep
well, more like rollback time, like our vessel is regenerated to when we started out and our memories are restored to the initial phase, we do still retain some memory though, i dont know how to explain this fully i have to think about it. basically think immortal jelly
i dont think there is a good or bad side here, just people having an opinion and clashed with othe ropinion
excalated into war and destroying everything
@/a simple rock#8192

Didn’t u say u gtg to sleep soon
good night everyone
hmm can i write my take on your "not rebirth" phrase?
so, like, what is rebirth actually? imo rebirth is when our soul goes to another physical body but as the result we didnt have any memories of our past life. a clean sheet, clueless about anything regarding life, thus practically need to start life from zero
sky rebirth is... quite different? yes we did lost our physical body in eden, but after we got reborn our body didnt... change? 'change' here is like reborn as 'moth' again. we still maintain our previous achievement (hair, accessories, friends). its even hinted that our physical body regenerated in home, waiting for the soul to come back from orbit
imo sky rebirth is much more like part of growing. yes we died, but we didnt forgot our past memory nor losing our experience in our past 'life'. we lose our wings, yes, but with our memories intact we can search and get them again. we are not rebirthed, we are growing to be more experienced
we are gaining more experience by "rebirth", thus making us to be more prepared for life and journey in the world of sky
What's with skykids having different species?
idk either 
altho it might be from current skids and those kids that got statued in eden
Sky Children of The Light Sky Kid Species Book (Incomplete)
The Moth Novus Lux (New Light) - A type of sky kid that has only emerged since it has been introduced to light, these species usually do not know what they are or have no personal being yet, they are often clueless and poorly navigatable on their surroundings, and will constantly sometimes interact with other sky kid species but seeing them as inanimate objects, the moth is a species that is not ever so rare considering the rapid growth of the sky kid population, some sky kids stay a moth but their mental skills do not stay the same, overtime they will get hold of their surroundings and mature to the point which they can be finally called "Veteran moths". Their appearance is known to be having short hair, light leather colored cape, a tale colored dressing and have one star, veteran moths have either 6 stars or more on their capes.
Rebirth is actually defined as reliving your existence. Reincarnation is defined as your soul being born in a different body
But the term rebirth here in Sky could still be different from the actual definition of Rebirth
In Journey, rebirth does seem to follow the actual definition
Well, I don't play Journey, but it seems like the case when it was explained to me somewhere that you start over and get reborn
I wouldn't call them species I would refer to them as "forms".
Time actually seems to pass for our skid and seems to retain their memories of their past lives, and also spirits and emotes stay, so that debunks the idea of them being "reborn" the same way like in Journey. Plus, after you get reborn the first time, it says "The real journey starts here", so I doubt we're reliving existence again
(Note: Skykids can imitate different species, what's considered as a species is that what they are most permanently at, Sky kids that change their appearance to a different species temporarily is called the process of "Top Causa", If a SkyKid species changes to another Sky Kid Species permanently, that change is called "Glutinum Switch", Skykid species that constantly imitate the appearance of other Sky Kid Species, that sky kid is considered, "exolvuntur motare")
It seems we're just... sent down and start over again. The only thing that resets when we get reborn are our wl
(Note: Skykids can imitate different species, what's considered as a species is that what they are most permanently at, Sky kids that change their appearance to a different species temporarily is called the process of "Top Causa", If a SkyKid species changes to another Sky Kid Species permanently, that change is called "Glutinum Switch", Skykid species that constantly imitate the appearance of other Sky Kid Species, that sky kid is considered, "exolvuntur motare")
Hmm, can you elaborate?
Basically, Sky kids that change their original appearance to another one temporarily then changing back are called "Top Causa"
A SkyKid that changes their appearance permanently, the process is called "Glutinum Switch"
A SkyKid that keeps switching from attire to attire is called "exolvuntur motare"
I am a SkyKid species researcher
quite the fancy to be using Latin terms like actual Science
That seems a lot like individual behaviors rather than species differentiators
like types of dogs
what if moth hair is the eden ultimate gift
Lmao
Dont you guys find it odd that the Valley twins are the only Elders that seems to have not regained their light even when we finish their cinstellation and meet them at The Light?
/wdym
Regained? Are you reffering the cutscene?
Not glowy
They're the only ones that are like that. They haven't really regained light even when we finish their constellation
Which is... odd...
They're also the only ones whose diamond symbol on their chest is different too
Well, kinda different from the other Elders
Is it just me, or is that a little suspicious?
What are krill
not just you, the twins have always had some weirdness about them 
And why is there a big bad storm
Lore moff??? 
Likely, since they are one star cleaved in two?
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lot of weird thing with the twins
here's som pic of them if they'll help lol
Nicee
Wait a sec, only their chest light regains their light
I always expecting the twins to fuse into one lol
Yeah, its quite unnoticeable tbh
Strange for the one who ruled the capital of a continent-
m
that seems to be the case
In terms of Elder age, they're children
Oh yeah
Honestly, still feels off to me tho. They're really dull compared to the other Elders (No offence, Samekh-)
I mean, maybe its related to their proffesion as athletes?
Maybe, but still doesn't make sense. I mean, Mr. Wasteland dude here is a warrior. Still glowy
Like, simple appearance so they can uhhhh move freely
Huh
Now taht you mentioned it ._.
Can elders fly like we can?
The only time we see the Twin Elders glowed which is really similar to the other Elders is the old Beta cutscene of Valley Twins
Now that I think about it we don’t see them in game per say
But even that is not the same as the other Elders
/wdym vao
Wdym didnt see them in game-
We at elast meet them twice, if you havent completed their conste
Well, that's because the Elders arent quite dead as the Ancestors
Hum, well... since elders are quite... special cases?
Tehy have their own realms
Cant interacted to skids realms directly
aren't elders fallen stars?
Yep
Yeah
I dont elders are dead nor alive, they are exist but in weakened state
Obvious case? Isle, gw and forest
Wonder who or what was the true 1st sky kid
what happened to isle elder anyways? his mask is cracked and broken
Probably Prince-
Well Teth... i think they lose their ability to make diamond so i counted it as weakened state lol
I mean, Prince looks exactly like an Skid but with a star mask-
I wanna get the mask-
“Mask”
Face? 
I looked into the old concept timeline, and I noticed that the Prince does indeed have a cape in one of the images in the timeline
Not a poncho, a cape. It just looks like a poncho
Oho- 
The rough drawings of Prince are just their cape, but simplified, so it looks like a poncho
I mean, our cape works the same
Especially when we use original stance
The cape literally covering our front too with that stance
ikr
Plus, Prince flies like an skid too in the sketches of the story
They literally fly with us like an skid
he's tiny right?
Which one- is it in Tom Zhao's website??
Yep
Smol, almost same weight like us
Lemme check again
HEIGHT
Dangit
Not weight, height
How , heavy is a sky kid?._.
ignore the meme portion, heres the prince and a skid compared 
Lighter than a crab at least-
krill gun-
Lmaoo
Krill gun best gun
Star mask , huh
Wonder if connected
exactly 
The flight button as well?
👀
It’s all stars
yes, the prince/king motif can be found around the game
i did spoil myself with the prophecy spoilers but i still don't understand much
Ooh, maybe
Cant spell prophecy, i apologize
prolly gonna watch it again lol
I kinda did spoil myself, bit I understood right away
You can dm me if you want about it
the prince is the player character from journey
Wanna read my take on SoP statues with the concept of the prophecy? 
sure
Its a bearded turtle 
And yea i thought it was another animal too-
xD
delete that before a shepherd see-
loll
Is there any news?
about what ?
About sky lore
not as far as i know...?
Oh ok
I do think that light in the game is something you can hold.. like it has a physical property
Almost like water..
henlo I wanna get into reading the lore but where do i start
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I feel like eden was a castle where the king lived before it became chaos
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Thanks to this picture I suddenly got another interpretayionof tje constellation symbol (on the rock pad in home)
The 5 stars are the elders on the Eden door while our CoL is the bottom dot.
We, as the original Sky people, are guide to the others by a long staff which may refers to the Isle Elder and leading us to a more awareness state of our being (the middle dot with the circle around)
Our journey from beginning to our goal.
.
The middle circle reminds me of our skykid animation during getting another wedge
When we floats with the light circles around us
OMG... I wish I were a painter to depict that clearly too you
Actually, I think the middle dot is the CoL
The bottom dot is Isle Elder
Isle Elder is meant to be the ferryman, the Elder that shepherd people to The Light. And we know that the Child is well... the Child of The Light. So Isle Elder being the bottom star that points up to The Light makes sense.
As Isle Elder sends ppl and probably creatures to The Light
The other five at the top represents the other 5 Elders. The one on the very top and middle of the five is definitely Vault. Also shown on the door to Eden
/hmm okay but what about the 2 dot not connected to the circle
To be honest, not sure. They could just be there as extra stars only
/ this is jen, im on my friends acc
Ohh, okay
/well on the pedestal in orbit you also see 2 dots that's not connected
Yeah. I'm actually unsure. They could just be there as extra stars, or maaybe they could represent Ancestors/Spirits, Light Creatures or both? I'm not quite sure
/king + prince?
I see King+Prince being the same person as the CoL
Yeah. I'm actually unsure. They could just be there as extra stars, or maaybe they could represent Ancestors/Spirits, Light Creatures or both? I'm not quite sure
@thin dirge even Friends who travelled/joined with you (or strangers not yet met)
Hey guys
do you guys think those extra stars on each constellation will be added in the future?
i mean, without them the constellation woudl look uncompleted
clearly shown in valley conste
they look like the empty spots for favorite friends in The Light constellation 
yeah! that also lead me to believe those will eb added in the next update 
maybe i'm overthinking idk
altho for prairie it looks alreday completed 
except for the ultimate gift but shhhhh
my candles and hearts are stolen by ts oof
wasteland has 4 spirits missing whsgdn
lost stars on each constellation:
isle : 4
prairie : 0
forest : 1
valley : 1
Wasteland : 4
vault : 5
cmiiw
WAIT ISLE
Woah isle, wasteland, and vault has a lot and I can tell that they probably have loooong history
wait vault have 5
galaxy mind
but like vault is the smallest constellation
The smallest constellation yet hold a lot of mystery
I hope so too. I think it will blow my mind if after the season of prophecy, the missing star will show up
wasteland homies probably died during whatever happened there
Please don't give me false hope 😅
It would be like once we know what happened, we could know what happen to the missing spirits
haha fingers crossed
I dont want to hype for a season and then being let down
It would be nice tho
oh no, the idea is rooting in me 
how many stars does it need to form each conste? (minus the elder)
isle : 7 (currently 3, lost 4)
prairie : 8 (currently 8, lost 0)
forest : 9 (currently 8, lost 1)
valley : 8 (currently 7, lost 1)
wasteland : 10 (currently 6, lost 4)
vault : 10 (currently 5, lost 5)
catapult guy can be a possibility of a lost WL spirit https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632004389137154048/742375421026500718/image0.jpg
huh-
not my pic btw
where did you find them
aw
same
my phone always lagged there so i didnt have time to watch around-
also, is that dude bringng some kind of sword? like, look at that picture, in front of that dude
it kinda covered by the white candle
Maybe? That looks like the sword that you can find in eden
let me get better pics
Oh yeah the handle looks different
yw B)
I came across this before. Are these mantas eggs?
No just «easter egg»
Its a literal EASTER eggs 
Dangit my brain goes auto mode and wrote manta egg instead-
oh lol i keep wondering why they put it there
I think its for daily quest in the old version of sky
Do you think that they'll hatch one day in an update 
hatches to another egg
did you noticed, in last part of Eden, if you look straight up, u can see megabird?
orbit? if so yes
yes, yes... oh, okay... I just noticed recently
/yes really makes me wonder why she's there
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Why are you writing a / at the beginning of every message? @gilded fossil
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/ off topic milan but it started as a coding joke
/yup the big squirly thing
Or credits
So what happened to the civilization that we are stumbling about? Those were the sky ppl right?
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/hmm faux what do you think about the civilazation? I do have my own theories but im interested to hear yours
Hmm gimme a moment to think
The sky people met their demise, presumably noted from the intro of the game "if only they had listened..."
My guess is that they messed with something ancient or sacred that unleashed the unruly and consuming darkness, like essence stuff and creatures, like what we see in Golden Wasteland
The sky ppl were an advanced civilization, but as great as their prowess was, the nature of their supposed curiosity reflects that to us humans irl since we have a tendency similar to this
And either it was the King's ignorance or sheer curiosity and desire about whatever that said thing was that was not supposed to be intervened
I haven't really thought much about the children of light (us players) other than being angels sent to free the spirits of the sky ppl from limbo and fix what they had wrought to the world
That's all for my ted talk now thnx
interesting
/ claps
Woah that's really interesting
I've been told that God is somewhere in the story since eden, ascension, heaven and all those things in sky
But I ain't sure about that hue
/well everything is true until proven otherwise
But its only a theory
A Gamer Theoryy
/ skids are made out of gatorade yall cant stop me
you could say that megabird is like the god of sky
I see
/ whether she good or not depends
Its a she?
in concept art megabird is referred to as she i think
Sky kids are firebenders since they pull out candles that are already litted
Why is she called megabird? Cuz of all those birds and mantas inhabiting her?
not sure but in the concept art she didn't even look like a bird 
/ we call her megan the spaghetti monster


So I guess why the King in the cutscene in Vault shows him being all that mannered and stuff was because he was humbled by his actions and consequences brought upon to him and all of his kingdom and he no longer was the person he was when he was alive
Or if he is the king i think im wrong
Only then after completing each map is when u release their spirits and souls from limbo
/hmm? except in the murals king isnt present in vault cutscene
the figure in the eden mural is the eden elder but some accept that eden elder = king
Ohw then who was in the cutscene in the vault?
Like the one who gave us the diamond thing
the elder that gives you the diamond is the vault elder
/that;s lamed...? (not sure the name)
yeah vault elder's concept name was lamed
Ahh i see
So the king aint present?
well
/well
Sky kids are just fragments of a sun 
He isn't anywhere i guess
the king is in-game but he doesn't appear in the way you think
the sun is a deadly laser
Ooooooohhhhh
/yep that's the dude
i like to think that figure is eden elder/king and the circle thing is the eden diamond
/nuh uh
Nope
I see
/ res i thought it was a pancake
our capes/wings are airbenders
no i think that's an apple jen 

The king in the mural looks so creepy tho
from the canon lore doc regarding the king said by ash (current concept artist)
Like why is he the only one shown with a mouth? I think its implying he's still in agony, screaming in pain

he just wants to eat his apple in peace 😔
But if he's the one responsible for the downfall of his kingdom and what happened elsewhere, then maybe he deserved it
He wants to play football but all the elders were busy 😩
Implying he is in limbo
ngl the mural is sorta reminding me of the titan kronos from greek mythology
and you know
the kid eating
Which god was kronos again? god of?
Ah lmao misread
it's been a while
/well, i do have theory that king's not evil he just needed therapy
he most definitely needs some therapy
People think that the king wanted too much power and because of this the storm was created and all that

oh on that
I have a headcanon that the Krills where once creatures of light that got distorted, corrupted and warped beyond comprehension that they became blind, wandering aimlessly, and reacting violently to light creatures, possibly reminding of what once it was, and because of how corrupted and distorted it became, it saw it as a bad memory or a trauma that it desperately needs to kill the creature of light to remove the bad memory inhabiting the Krill
In other words, they are in limbo as well
for some reason I get the feeling that the king is kinda like the queen of england where he is still a monarch but doesn't dicide how the whole kingdom works
/ krill also need therapy
Here is a nice concept of the king
the theory goes that the king got power hungry bc of what the power diamonds could do and wanted to harness a bunch of the power for himself, so he ordered for a large diamond to be made
large power diamond probably couldn't take the power it held and farted
Not mine
Wanting power can be a completely valid thing. You can't accomplish much without power. But with that power must come understanding and responsibility. It's possible the need for power was legitimate, but the understanding to go with it was insufficient
Yep totally
the way the king is looking at me in that concept is like "so what if I fed you to the krill?"
yesh that's what i was thinking null
Goes the same with us humans
So as not to out the kind of work I do, consider a bank. In order to allow us to make purchases safely, they need a tooooooon of power.
man,, at this rate everyone in sky needs therapy
Wanting power can be a completely valid thing. You can't accomplish much without power. But with that power must come understanding and responsibility. It's possible the need for power was legitimate, but the understanding to go with it was insufficient
That was basically the premise of the progress of tech with the dispute in humanity in the past and history
/even the skids
yeah
even the grass
I think the jellyfish don't need therapy but I'm not sure on it
Money to pay people, reputation to be accepted as eventually going to pay, tons of other people's money... It's no laughing matter
Jellyfishes don't have minds
So they are enlightened and free
good job jellyfish
They released their earthly tethers and became the wind
good, helpful, enlightened
Money to pay people, reputation to be accepted as eventually going to pay, tons of other people's money... It's no laughing matter
going by this, the king maybe needed to establish himself as a worthy ruler of the kingdom and did so by using teth's (forest elder) invention of the power diamond to improve civilisation's quality of life? then he eventually let the power get to his head (idk how to explain this part)
And got consumed by his greed and lust for power that eventually led to the demise of him and his kingdom
/yea to be fair minus the ded trees forest seems pretty advance
How it happened is another question
I wonder what krill would think of jellyfish 
they try to attack and then they would have a jellyfish hat is what I think
the fart of eden crackpot theory
Like all the places except vault are pretty much in ruins
Jellyfishes have shockers
Jelly shocks the shrimp
Jelly wins
quick someone draw a krill with a jellyfish on top of it's head
Wait, that reminds me of something
Krills are food of Whales irl...
Could that also be applied to Sky...?

Skids are the avatars since they reincarnate/reborn and have past lives
I think the whales and krill are roughly the same size in sky
quick someone draw a krill with a jellyfish on top of it's head
/jou we already have a cursed krilltjn
Well, Whales in terms of lore are meant to be waaayyyy bigger
/ pins in gen chat
They probably had to scale it down because phone limitations
Whales are the biggest animals we have
Yeah, and they're meant to be the biggest in Sky too
I've heard krill are the rough size of a irl blue whale
/what about the chonky mantas?
So those were whales? I thought they were just giant weird light fishes
so a whale being a actual whale in sky would be at least 100 time bigger than the krill
How bout those cosmic mantas in vault? And since their cosmic, i thought u would see one in eden
and that's like half the sky kingdom
Lemme just go to Tom Zhao's instagram for a minute
/nah vault is just one big acid trip, cosmic mantas dont seem to be real
I just know they're meant to be a lot bigger than current game. Bigger than an Elder Manta at least
if they were that big we could walk up one to get to orbit 
that reminds me of an old post i made HSHSN
/ pls share if lore related res
whao
if only whales were accurate to real life size
then again we wouldn't be here if they were
*society if we could fix GW
Society if candles didn't need to reset everyday
Levitating spirit confirmed to be an earthbender
Whales, are described to be "The largest and most ancient denizens in the Sky World", stated in tom Zhao's instagram-
/oh woww link please butterflygam?
Hope I don't interrupt anything
In case you have missed this
Thanks to this picture I suddenly got another interpretayionof tje constellation symbol (on the rock pad in home)
The 5 stars are the elders on the Eden door while our CoL is the bottom dot.
We, as the original Sky people, are guide to the others by a long staff which may refers to the Isle Elder and leading us to a more awareness state of our being (the middle dot with the circle around)
.
The middle circle reminds me of our skykid animation during getting another wedge
When we floats with the light circles around us
OMG... I wish I were a painter to depict that clearly too youpWow
My previous idea about the constellations pad/button
But I imagined it in my mind with this painting style, wite the 5 Elders reaching to bestow their wisdom
tom zhao's ig page is @/tomzhaodesign i believe it's been a while since i got instagram tho
I think the dot in the middle is the CoL. The bottom dot is Isle Elder.
Cause Isle Elder is the ferryman who shepherd ppl and creatures to The Light
Imagine that but with the 5 Elders with the same pose as this Renaissance Masterpiec

Also, I think its in the order of Elders connected to each line in the Eden door? I thought Vault would be the one at the top-
let me go look brb
Since the king is presented as being in agony, would he be the bottom dot?
Connect all those 8 stars to the middle, you get the 8 pointed star, whuch is the Prince's mask
eden door
/ 2 disconnected, both in orbit and home space
/hmm but really why they add them tho, to bboth the orbit constellation and home constellation
In the painting idea I have, there is a Moth in front of Daleth too, witnessing this ultimate vision Isle Elder shows
The Alpha and the Omega of Sky

...those two additional separatrd stars... I have no interepretation for those, maybe just friends who come with you on the journey
Or
maybe strangers not yet met
maybe season guide collections
/oh yea friend constellation is still a "constelation" after all
BUT
In the painting I would put dark and shiny boy in those spots
/ you used to see fav friends in orbit btw
friend constalation is eden constalation
canstolocion.....? what ?
that doesn't look like a word
do you mean constellation ?
/ jou wrote constAlation
bruh it's just a typo no big deal
With the two other stars, they may represent Ancestors on one, Light Creatures on the other, maybe
I mean, that's the only explaination I could think of that sorta makes sense to me
my fanfic brain said « what if it represents two other kingdoms » then accidentally made two fan kingdoms
home space is where the heart is
Then eden is where you lose your sanity-
Hh
/so maybe the col is disconnected to their own heart
Hmm what if there is 2 constells thet refused to follow the king? 
HERESY
Oops time for intracivil conflict
- King
Any idea on what happened and what caused Eye of Eden to be like that?
big diamond go boom


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