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hushed steeple
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Oh

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I thought they were dark birds SkyShy

short owl
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Megakrill stole the birds

velvet thunder
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Megakrill pulled a fast one on them

gilded fossil
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/okay i just looked at the pic and notice that the cloud passage way from social space to butterfly fields has king statues (?) but like, it's a cloud passage way how do they put those pillars there, there is 0 ground to place them on

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/do the thing just levitate?

gilded fossil
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/ let's play cool design choice or lore

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/ personally. i think one is you, one is for the ancestors, and one for the elders

frail hearth
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i say cool desi- i mean lore

gentle sparrow
gilded fossil
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/either vault or isle

gentle sparrow
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Yea i thought so

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hhhh

gilded fossil
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/is this why vault isnt on the eden door??

gentle sparrow
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anyways let me go back and enable the lurking mode

kind musk
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Hmm intresting

gilded fossil
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/or is that the 5 closets you can get tho

kind musk
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Oh, flipped kreby krab is back btw

short owl
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I see six connected dots. One is missing, and three dots unconnected. Interesting...

kind musk
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Wb you too Ice Kreb

gilded fossil
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/six but one is towards you

kind musk
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No wait, there are 6, one is missing, not two

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If one 'elder' is missing? I mean, what other thing can be?

gilded fossil
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/one is missing??

kind musk
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Oh wait... maybe is not counting eden elder/king

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Who is the eden elder btw? Is confirmed, right?

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But there's a figure that represents a elder in the eden?

blissful peak
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I have this random head canon that the eden elder ✨died✨

frail hearth
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ah a classic

blissful peak
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With no supporting evidence so ignore that oof

frail hearth
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tell us

gilded fossil
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/yes please

kind musk
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blissful peak
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Tho arent all the spirits already ded

kind musk
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Maybe

gilded fossil
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/deadnt

grim tundra
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Everything in sky is either obviously destroyed or abandoned and greatly deteriorated.

They've been gone for a long time.

gentle sparrow
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Aliven't and deadn't GWomoRaphiWink

gilded fossil
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/or gatorade

short owl
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... My mind just told me tbat the elder constilations used to be one. We have yet to connect the constilations

kind musk
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.v.

gilded fossil
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/yea

short owl
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We return them to the stars but they are still broken

kind musk
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Flipped creby crab have to go to the flipped creby crebs school, good bye!

gilded fossil
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/but look at the symbol where you see the constelation, it looks like one is pointing towards us and the other five towards the stars

gentle sparrow
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What if the elders are actually immortal pSquint

gilded fossil
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/maybe

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/ forgive horrible art

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/so like what i see is, 5 pointing upwards and 1 pointing down

frail hearth
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wait y'all

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i noticed something

gilded fossil
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/now it would make more sense to have 6 poiting up

frail hearth
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sorry if i'm interrupting :<

gilded fossil
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/ oh koma do please continue

frail hearth
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thanks

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alright so, the other day people were talking about spirits being stars too, right? well, spirits and elders do have similar colors

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i'm bad at this go easy on me

thin dirge
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Well, blue means loss or death. Spirits are blue cause they ded, Elders are blue cause they lost their light or something. But yeah, I noticed that too

gilded fossil
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/why seasonal dudes glow orange then

thin dirge
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Cause they already passed on, or ascended

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They somehow got stuck on land..

marble vortex
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spirits only start glowing orange once you give them ascended candles

thin dirge
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It could just be like that to make them seperate from normal spirits

gilded fossil
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/nah the ascended glow yellow

thin dirge
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Since Seasonal Spirits when they return as Travelling Spirits, they're blue

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Seasonal Spirits are more warm orange than golden yellow

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When you unlock wing buffs from other spirits, they turn golden yellow. Seasonal Spirits are more warm orange.

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It could just be like that to seperate them from normal spirits. Besides, we don't really use wingbuffs on Seasonal Spirits, and don't need to ascend them or something

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We only do that when they return as TS, and they're blue, I think?

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I'm not sure tho

gilded fossil
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/ aw man game mech not lore again

thin dirge
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Oof SkyLOL

frail hearth
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seasonal candles are orange so i guess they made the spirits orange too to match

thin dirge
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That's the tricky bit with lore. Gotta know which is lore, or which is just game mech-

gilded fossil
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/well, some season candles are blue

thin dirge
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Yeah, but not anymore

frail hearth
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😎

gilded fossil
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/it's okay koma

thin dirge
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Dont worry, we all have theories that get debunked from time to time

gilded fossil
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/yup

thin dirge
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Anyway, with the constellation you brought up Jen

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The bottom one might be Isle

gilded fossil
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/ no one has tried debunking skid = gatorrade im wining

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/hmm, why is the bottom isle?

thin dirge
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Isle Elder's role is to shepherd people to the Light

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The one on the bottom points up to the middle, which may be the Light

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The five are the other Elders

gilded fossil
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/hmm i always see that's us tho

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/the bottom one

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/but you could be right

grim tundra
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So, is the oob sky castle probably just an unused Valley map? What do y'all think about it?

gilded fossil
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/ i left for two sec what

marble vortex
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which oob castle?

grim tundra
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@hushed steeple good answer

gilded fossil
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/the one with the water fall or the midnight thing

grim tundra
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@gilded fossil the round one with the giant statues at midnight

marble vortex
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in which map is yhat?

gilded fossil
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/ lemme find pic

grim tundra
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Valley

gilded fossil
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/ wait isnt that place same the one in the rhythm cutscene?

grim tundra
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Right above* Wasteland.
I figured it was one of the last defenses of the WL colonies, but we don't have official story on that yet

thin dirge
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Well, 7 in the constellation. There's some extra stars, but I dont think they count that much

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But there are exactly 7 thats part of the main constellation there

grim tundra
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@hushed steeple when you drop down the hole from valley to wl, you can glitch up above the ruins and bypass the wl clouds to get to the castle

thin dirge
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Middle could be King/Prince

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The bottom one must be Isle Elder. Since their role is to shepherd ppl to The Light

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And Prince/King's constellation is The Light

gilded fossil
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/wait butterfly i see eight tho

marble vortex
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when you drop down the hole from valley to wl, you can glitch up above the ruins and bypass the wl clouds to get to the castle
ive never heard of that oob

gilded fossil
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/ also not connected

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/ but to the left

thin dirge
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Yeah, thats what I meant by extra stars

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But they're not part of the main constellation, so they don't count

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The ones at each end represents each Elder I believe

gilded fossil
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/ah okay

thin dirge
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Besides, we use this constellation at Home to look at the Elders' constellations, so it must be related to them

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Also, interesting note here, is that there's 8 stars around the middle star. And Prince mask also has 8 points

gilded fossil
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/oh yea it does

thin dirge
marble vortex
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can you show me what the prince looks like? and maybe give me a somewhat of an explanation on it? i just recently got into sky lore n id like to know a bit of it

thin dirge
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Lore moff?

gilded fossil
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/oooh u seen lore moff doc>>>>

marble vortex
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nope, first yime i hear of it

thin dirge
marble vortex
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Lore moff?
yes, very

gilded fossil
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/ fiannlly

marble vortex
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absks thank you! ;v;

gilded fossil
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/ 10-ish new faces have came since the survey went out im so happy

frail hearth
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i feel like the doc is gonna get spammed when the new season releases lol

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goodbye new lore moff.

gilded fossil
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/ jeeez guys back to lore tho

grim tundra
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@hushed steeple when you drop down the hole from valley to wl, you can glitch up above the ruins and bypass the wl clouds to get to the castle
@grim tundra @hushed steeple
It's very cool. I really hope they unlock it soon with a Season and/or new gate.

hushed steeple
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is there any kind of doc or stuff for the elders name??? i just want to save it to my sky lore stuff

frail hearth
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Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.

thin dirge
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Og message by Bricky too

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I think

hushed steeple
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thank you stickerHeart

hushed steeple
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Picture of him

marble vortex
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Oh! thank you very much

wicked egret
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Is ||Eden|| a spoiler in this channel?

hushed steeple
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No

wicked egret
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Oh, nice then

hushed steeple
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„Spoilers“

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So it’s fine

wicked egret
heavy eagle
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Idk what is currently being discussed but i was thinking abt how more instruments are being added on sky each time and,,, electric instruments? Could they be powered by diamonds instead of electricity?

frail hearth
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Who is this 6th Elder spirit?
vault

sly kestrel
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Vault mom

stone rivet
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Yeah Idk why people call forest 'mom' when she's 'auntie' at best

heavy eagle
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Isn't Vault just Grandma?

stone rivet
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Then who is mama

frail hearth
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megabird

topaz girder
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forest is aunt , vault is mama i think

short owl
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Forest reads as older sister

bitter shale
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Vault is more an aunt imo lol

lyric isle
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The twins strike me as those weird fun cousins

willow shoal
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||Summon Bricky||

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Forest reads as older sister
@short owl Shaman?

bitter shale
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What

short owl
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?

willow shoal
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u mean the forest elder?

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the 3rd one

bitter shale
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I cant see- stickerGloomy

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Lemme get my cellular data

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Oho now i can

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And damn Teth looks so different-

willow shoal
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yeah

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Teth is a shaman and a diamond producer

bitter shale
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Ohh a shaman? pEyes

willow shoal
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Precisely

bitter shale
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I mean i can understand Teth as Diamond maker but shaman pEyes thats new for me

thorn trout
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Where does the headcanon she's a shaman come from? Just curious.

short owl
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Old concept

thorn trout
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Ah

willow shoal
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The Prince explores forbidden forests with Shaman Ancestor and unearth dark stone matter that absorbs fire.
——Backstory Timeline

short owl
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She used to be the one who introduced Aleph to Dark stone

bitter shale
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Old concept of valley was a priestess, which is very different from today Valley elder pThink

short owl
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This was back when the forest was forbidden rather than hidden

strange parrot
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Heloo what are you guys discussing rn?

bitter shale
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Old concept of the elders

strange parrot
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oooooh

thorn trout
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Forbidden Forest Woman

bitter shale
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[REDACTED] Forest

willow shoal
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in Forbidden forest, she forged diamonds long long ago

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someone once said the wishing well was her space to pray for herself.

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unfortunately, it was removed

bitter shale
hushed steeple
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F l o s pEyes

bitter shale
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Lmaooo i cant get a better picture of it, maybe i can get anothe rone when i get to orbit in the future SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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What's worse is that I just went through orbit

bitter shale
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Bruh same-

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I didnt even notice it-

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I just noticed the symbol after scrolling up on this channel-

hushed steeple
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I did! But didn't think it'd be important... stickerGloomy

bitter shale
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Well now it is important- SkyLOL SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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Damn right it is

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Although, it's the exact same we see in the constellations

hushed steeple
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At home and after seeing the elders' cutscene

bitter shale
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This one is clear enought
Credit to boop

hushed steeple
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Nice

bitter shale
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Worth to be added tho- SkyLOL

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Anyway

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Its quite interesting that there is 2 unfinished lines on that symbol

hushed steeple
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Yeah, that's the same I was thinking the other day when I was compiling the pics

bitter shale
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Like, is that intentional? Is that mean tehre is actually 8 constellations? (Assuming the lines are representing the constells)

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8 constellations, only 6 connected to the dot (i assume this is their leader or some kind like that) in the center

Hm

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What is this conspiracy-

hushed steeple
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Megan, tell us your secrets pFIRE SkyLOL

bitter shale
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In the intro its only shown 6 constellations pThink

hushed steeple
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Concept art

bitter shale
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Nah it isnt

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Its a concept art

hushed steeple
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Oh

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In the intro its only shown 6 constellations pThink
7 if you count eden

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Wait, no

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Could be 7 if you count the standing person in the middle

bitter shale
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Im pretty sure the guy in the middle is actually the elders' leader pThink

I mean, it can be?

hushed steeple
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prince

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I'm not sure tho

bitter shale
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If we count eden elder and the twins as separated individuals, there is actually 8 elders

But since valley twins are counted as one constellation... there is 7 elders?

hushed steeple
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If you count the king as eden elder, yeah, could be

bitter shale
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What if... the non connected dots actually representing dead constellation?

I cant fine a good word other than "dead" stickerGloomy

hushed steeple
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Huh

bitter shale
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Uhh like, it can be that eden elder and prince/king are different beings? But that wouldnt make any sense-

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Since it will contradicted with intro cutscene-

hushed steeple
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I've got no theories, flos
My brain is pretty dry ;;

bitter shale
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Ahh ;-; same-

dapper copper
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u see the isle elder teaching spirits before they died

round musk
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Im pretty sure the guy in the middle is actually the elders' leader pThink

I mean, it can be?
@bitter shale guy in the the middle is child of light/prince, who was likely given charge of the elders and abused his power, leading to the fall

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He then took the form of the king, and started the industrial project

solid turtle
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Oh..Err..Hello! :D

dapper copper
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cave of prophecies is in in isle

frail hearth
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i'm baaack

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what did i miss :]

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i guess not much hah

vale ridge
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Ya didn’t miss much
But I did miss you ;)

short owl
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I doubt they would give us someone so tantalizing as the prince juuuust yet

sacred rapids
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I have arrived
what's happening here?

frail hearth
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good question

sacred rapids
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prince/king talk it looks like

dapper copper
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yas i'm back

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i missed so much, i know

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but now brb, i'm practicing the piano for the lesson

lofty pendant
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does anyone know when the next ts is

dapper copper
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me no

livid valley
bitter shale
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Bleh

Makin theories about that symbol is exciting and yet confusing as well

lofty pendant
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-< srry

hushed steeple
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first time i seen butter, the legend that started the theory doc

edgy sequoia
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Butter?

thorn trout
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Butter, the man
(I think he's. The YTer too, right?)

frail hearth
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there are like 4 butters in this server so idk

bitter shale
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I know only 2 butters, its Butter Hoarder from yt and ButterflyGaming which is a regular here

kind musk
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Hia my Lore Followerzzz Flipped Creby Crab is back from the flipped crebys crabs school! My pc was broke yesterday and i was busy studing so i didn't advanced so much in the Lore PDF, but anyway, Is back today!!!!!

bitter shale
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Welcome back creb pEyes

kind musk
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Hi FlosssssSSSSSSs

livid valley
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Butter(hoarder) didn't create the doc

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It's Butter only with the doggy face

sinful anvil
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do u think megabird would make us horrifying in smallest and hidden ways like (if we have mouths) adding sharp teeth and eyes with black sclera

lethal stump
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why though

sinful anvil
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imo if she is kind enough she knows we are defenseless against realms’ dangers so mb she would make us scary in sneaky ways

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thats my idea of why

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and also thats exactly my question

lethal stump
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imo the point is that we’re defenceless pPopcorn

sinful anvil
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........... it is?

lethal stump
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it fits into my redemption/repentance narrative
basically megabird made the reincarnated king powerless to force them to be humble

short owl
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Alone, defenceless, given a task he cannot complete AND forced to die on a daily basis?! Not even MY version of megabird id THAT cruel!

opaque rune
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So what exactly do we kno about the whole sky origin????

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Or storyline so to speak???

lethal stump
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Alone, defenceless, given a task he cannot complete AND forced to die on a daily basis?! Not even MY version of megabird id THAT cruel!
i’ve made my king cruel enough to deserve it

inner comet
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Do spells/potions/anything that changes you only affect skids? The chibi mask spirit isnt even a chibi herselfpThink

thorn trout
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That's. Actually good question

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Unless she's like really tall

inner comet
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or maybe it failed and it just gave her a small headpEyes

thorn trout
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That. Is somehow worse

inner comet
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But her being tall has nothing to do w it bc no matter how tall a skid is, the chibi mask will make them tiny

sinful anvil
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i think chibi mask reverses ur age and makes the pioneer younger
but skykids r half gods so it only has physical effects

thorn trout
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...Skykids are demigods

lyric isle
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Hide-and-Seek is just really tall; we see her without the mask

short owl
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  1. No one deserves this
  2. We are completely without memory
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(To brick btw)

frail hearth
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Do spells/potions/anything that changes you only affect skids? The chibi mask spirit isnt even a chibi herselfpThink
i remember someone made a theory that it can be her kid's mask

thorn trout
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Well that just hurts

inner comet
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Imagine if it was her playing hide n seek with her kid one day and her kid went missing while trying to find her, and she only has her mask as a thing to remember her pCry pCry

frail hearth
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that's kinda how the theory went

thorn trout
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@inner comet STOP MAKING IT WORSE

lethal stump
timid zephyr
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i don't know if i hate that or not

frail hearth
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it was that or killed by crabs

timid zephyr
thorn trout
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KOMA YOU TOO pCry pCry

frail hearth
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IM SORRY JAGSBS

inner comet
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Sorry i just like angst pEyes

frail hearth
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everyone says that chibis are adorable but no one knows the story behind the mask 😔

thorn trout
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But wait guys that's also worse

inner comet
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||or maybe kid spirits are really weak so when hide n seek's kid got attacked by crabs it was enough to kill her||

thorn trout
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Because that probably means the mother died doing the exact same thing her child did.

rancid basalt
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I was sent here since I asked about what megabird is h e l p

inner comet
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Basically, god herself

rancid basalt
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OH YAY

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Wait what

thorn trout
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Pretty much

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A bit more to it but that's the idea

rancid basalt
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So.. god is a giant pigeon basically?

frail hearth
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birb

inner comet
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You can find it in the lore moff document

lethal stump
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more like a phoenix but close enough

sinful anvil
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Imagine if it was her playing hide n seek with her kid one day and her kid went missing while trying to find her, and she only has her mask as a thing to remember her pCry pCry
@inner comet Harsh in Hindsight: children going missing is a common issue irl! i read an anecdote about her parent playing hide n seek with her kid and it went like that

inner comet
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aw i hope the mom is okSkyCry

frail hearth
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aw

rancid basalt
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Ah

sinful anvil
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why is megabird ... a bird

inner comet
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But i think the kid getting crabbed is more believable

And more angsty pEyes

indigo scarab
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Why are crabs crabs

sinful anvil
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mb its just the shock of accepting unconventional religion but irl our image of God is commonly … a “person” or something

frail hearth
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imagine dying because of a crab

sinful anvil
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not a person but just not a bird

lethal stump
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many gods are depicted as animals

indigo scarab
sinful anvil
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im jared 19 except i never know religion

inner comet
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i think pagan/greek gods had an animal associated with them?pThink

sinful anvil
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amazing

lethal stump
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quetzalcoatl is a feathered serpent for example
and animal deities are common in north american indigenous religions in general i believe

inner comet
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im surprised you were able to pronounce his name right

sinful anvil
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: D

lethal stump
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but in summary: animals of some sort as deities is not unheard of. frankly it’s about as common as humanoid deities, simply erased due to
[glances at christopher columbus]
selfish reasons

timid zephyr
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i know that egyptian gods especially are depicted as animal-esque beings

sinful anvil
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ye
im not immune to propaganda

inner comet
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yeah but they take a some what humanoid form rather than completely an animal

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Also ive noticed something pEyes

sinful anvil
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anyway i thought megabird is just this U shape with threads radiating instead of a phoenix ahah

frail hearth
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i know that egyptian gods especially are depicted as animal-esque beings
that's all i know about gods

inner comet
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Magabird has a teardrop thing thats kinda similar to ours (yknow the teardrop thats in our wedges)

sinful anvil
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yes our wing meter looks like her

inner comet
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Plus the teardrop in our wedges are supposed to be our WL, and megan is basically light itself

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Coincidence?pThink

lethal stump
indigo scarab
lethal stump
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old wedges cause it’s old

inner comet
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maybe our capes are resembling meganpEyes

sinful anvil
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new wedges didnt change

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lmao so we are both related to megan and the prince...

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(also i think the prince has smth to do w our nature to copy)

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(just something i came up)
prince: i can honk like a crab
tsadi: oh rly?
prince: WAWAWA
tsadi: … (knows thats not a real honk but cant point it out)

hushed steeple
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what does a phoenix even look like? i just think of it as a glorified vermillion bird

sinful anvil
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i just imagine it as the one from harry potter lmao

inner comet
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A Phoenix is basically a bird but made of fire (i think)

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They are also somewhat immortal since they can be reborn

lethal stump
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phoenixes tend to have long tail feathers and some sort of reddish colour scheme, and in general be very flowy

thorn trout
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Bricky has already seen this but I'm going to hit y'all with an angsty hot take

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There is, of course, the already-set parallel between the Sky children and the elders. The Elders destroyed a world, the children are restoring it.
But that's not where it stops.

The Elders see this as a second chance. The Skychildren see it as their only.

The stars get to go home after their mistakes. And if not, they still have a new generation to mold.
For the Skychildren, we don't have that choice. Our choice is eternal. To go through Orbit and be reborn, no matter how many people we save, because Orbit is not home to us like it is to them.

The Sky Kingdom is our home. It is our first and last chance to make something better, even if people leave us behind to pick up the pieces.
We are not to be used by the rest. We have to do this on our own.
And if we mess up, just like they did...

Well. Maybe there won't be a second chance.

sinful anvil
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thats the beauty about being reborn. you can do it again

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that angst ties in w “we’re the prince and here to repent”

thorn trout
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Not really, actually!
That's the depressing thing.
If we mess up multiple times, leaving the kingdom in the same disarray that we found it so long ago is pretty discouraging because we'll keep on being reborn and do things worse and being depressed and eventually just following the same fate as the Elders. Trapped between time and space, never to die and never to live.

hushed steeple
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megabird the world eater, i cant unsee this now, but then again in this perspective anything is possible given megabird is the creator

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so heavily confirmation biased, but it is a cool interpretation

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rebirth is actually a curse i think

sinful anvil
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mb megabird is canonically world eater, because like original concept all life things flow through her. she is their life source and that kinda involves some consumption
they all have to go through her in a sense

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got to remind myself megabird is not a person. she is close to a god which means she doesnt think like us or mortal beinga

hushed steeple
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the incomprehensible

lethal stump
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this is like farming to her

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sow seeds, wait for them to grow, then eat the fruit

hushed steeple
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why though

lethal stump
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the universe needs energy somehow

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universe gotta eat !

hushed steeple
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right, philosophy is a human construct, i can not begin to rationalize

sacred rapids
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so megan is still a grey character I see

sinful anvil
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i just see her as fair

sacred rapids
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but I think god like characters are usually greyish in morals

hushed steeple
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they dont have morals

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morality is a human construct

sacred rapids
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and most god where created by humans

hushed steeple
#

what

lyric isle
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well if you believe that’s the case

the problem is I have no certainty myself over that

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intense confused agnostic screaming

hushed steeple
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is that a reply to me?

lyric isle
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Not you, the person above.

hushed steeple
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oh alright

boreal nebula
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In case someone is interested in Forest Temple entrance cutscene I made a video

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I was curious about the similarity you can witness in just a couple of doors about the activation crystal rotating/flipping

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I think this flipping is visible only when a door is opened for the first time while the second time the activation crystal is still in place, as the video show

thin dirge
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It looks like it actually shows how diamonds were made...

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The first video I mean

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The origin of Diamonds? O.O

ornate snow
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Hiii

compact olive
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Hiii

gloomy stag
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@thin dirge People said that the temple in the forest is actually a diamond factory

sinful anvil
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i wouldnt think ppl would tell a story using fancy locks irl

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i guess during construction they just have to revere the king’s diamond production in a way even through designing unlocking methods

lethal stump
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tmw you take environmental storytelling literally
/j

short owl
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I mean... people tell stories out of all sorts of things. Why not locks?

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Some artist probaby got heavily criticized for it way back when

lethal stump
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it could also be taken as an advancement from cave paintings to mechanical stone carvings, another way Forest is related to technological advancement pPopcorn

limber fox
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can anyone tell me what the upcoming Helloween Cape will look like, pictures

lethal stump
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not the place, mate

limber fox
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Where ?

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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"everything is lore unless proven otherwise, i.e beyond reasonable doubt"

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@limber fox

hushed steeple
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are those pixaxes or umbrellas?

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pickaxes*

bitter shale
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sky is secretly minecraft confirmed SkyLOL SkyLOL SkyLOL

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I believe those are umbrella or head cover

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Since i dont think people would put un-sticked picaxe on their head-

gloomy stag
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Those may have been hats Flos....

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The ones on the head

bitter shale
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Maybe SkyLOL pEyes

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those stick with cover thing might be umbrellas

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And yeah it would makes more sense if those are hats

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Large hat

lethal stump
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they remind me of the lightseekers hat

short owl
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Do you really think "proven otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt" stops me?

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Everything is lore if it interacts in an imteresting way

hushed steeple
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how do you define interesting?

short owl
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Also if they are umbrellas, then enchantment shops be holding out

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@hushed steeple that lacks an answer

hushed steeple
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i dont really understand your comment null, is the IAP store lore?

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i dont mean it in a harsh way

short owl
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The answer is only no until someone finds a way to make it lore

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I do not have a way to do so... Unless IAP are actually Megan showing favor to sky kids for reasons they cannot possibly understand?

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Oops now it can be lore. Megan plays favorites and Sky Kids have no idea what determimes a favorite

vernal oar
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i just- watched a video on sky and- IS THERE AN EDEN ELDER????!?!?!?!?

thin dirge
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Well, there may or may not be

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But there is meant to be a 7th person that may or may not be an Elder

spring blaze
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there is and hes not ingame

vernal oar
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AAAAAA

lethal stump
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read this, Void ^^

thin dirge
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That 7th person is the King, the monarch of Sky, but he’s not confirmed to be the Eden Elder

lethal stump
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commonly theorized to be though

lapis depot
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Are all the elders ded? Or Vault elder is the last one to survive?

lethal stump
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elders are neither dead or alive

fathom sundial
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:oo

lethal stump
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they are outside space and time

thin dirge
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Yesn’t

hushed steeple
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superposition

lapis depot
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A

sinful anvil
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Oops now it can be lore. Megan plays favorites and Sky Kids have no idea what determimes a favorite
ALD Productions#8129 thats horrible i wanna punt her

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dammit

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ima remove the @ even though that doesnt undo the damage

lethal stump
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love how lore chat has almost unanimously decided megabird is a not-so-good person

sinful anvil
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not me lol

hushed steeple
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world eater

bitter shale
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a bad godly entity? count me in pEyes

hushed steeple
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we need good megabird theories

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but as far as i know no-one beat the evil god challenge without loopholes

thin dirge
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Theres also the other theory that the King did nothing wrong and the other Elders actually did something bad that caused the stuff at Eden to happen- pEyes

bitter shale
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well megan give us infinity reincarantion is that can be counted as good thing-

lethal stump
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dépends on your interpretation

sinful anvil
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that can be a good thing if one sucks it up hard enough

lethal stump
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i see it as a curse imo

hushed steeple
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i agree with bricky

sinful anvil
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at least theres a way to suck it up

lethal stump
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im talking intentions

thin dirge
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In Journey and the original concept of Sky, the rebirth thing was actually a reward for what we’ve done

sinful anvil
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at least megabird doesnt get ticked if you find a way to live with what she throws at you

thin dirge
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That’s why I’m iffy on the “Punishment by permanent rebirth” thing

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Because for all concepts of the storylines of TGC games, it was a reward rather than punishment

sinful anvil
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although cosmetics are expensive u just reap what you sow. you grind this much candles, you can buy this much. theres nothing that can stop you. and about the iaps screw them, you can live happily nonetheless. and megabird doesnt care about that.
she’s fair and im thankful for that.

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you can choose to b miserable or b happy with what you got. she does nothing about it

hushed steeple
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i dont think sky has ARGs well not yet at least, am i correct? so any IAP shouldn't be considered as lore, because it essentially breaks the forth wall

sinful anvil
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i said that bc ive read earlier it is interpreted as lore by someone

lethal stump
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imagine a sky ARG pWow

hushed steeple
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yes

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please

sinful anvil
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whats arg again? ive heard it but forgot

hushed steeple
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alternate reality games

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i think

vernal oar
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doesnt office kinda break that rule? or what purpose does office serve?

lethal stump
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breaking the fourth wall
usually something with morse code, coordinates, websites, etc

sinful anvil
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easter eggs

lethal stump
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office isnt lore related

hushed steeple
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ARG with skyskrits

vernal oar
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oh okok im new lol

short owl
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Clary#3359 thank you, I try. As for rebirth as a reward vs a punishment, I suppose what matters is what you are reborn into.

solar relic
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just my cent: i think there's really no good/evil figure in sky since it really is up to interpretation and viewpoint
they've all probably done good things, terrible things and they all have various reasons for whatever they did and it all may or may not even be their fault. i guess moral ambiguity like sky lore is done so you have more freedom to form your impressions on the figures pPopcorn so i try not to classify everyone by good/evil i say as i take the opportunity to make fun of the king, his mech suit and ego whenever i can

tl;dr: i'm lazy to classify who's good and who's bad

sinful anvil
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via my interpretation of megan being fair without caring for anyone, i think she is morally grey as well

hushed steeple
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i dont think we actually rebirth

lethal stump
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lamb, ping me in this upcoming paragraph so i can see it

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im interested owo

hushed steeple
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it is actually just a few lines

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i got to go to sleep soon

livid valley
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Sleep

hushed steeple
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well, more like rollback time, like our vessel is regenerated to when we started out and our memories are restored to the initial phase, we do still retain some memory though, i dont know how to explain this fully i have to think about it. basically think immortal jelly

bitter shale
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i dont think there is a good or bad side here, just people having an opinion and clashed with othe ropinion

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excalated into war and destroying everything

hushed steeple
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@/a simple rock#8192

bitter shale
sly kestrel
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Didn’t u say u gtg to sleep soon

hushed steeple
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good night everyone

bitter shale
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hmm can i write my take on your "not rebirth" phrase?

so, like, what is rebirth actually? imo rebirth is when our soul goes to another physical body but as the result we didnt have any memories of our past life. a clean sheet, clueless about anything regarding life, thus practically need to start life from zero

sky rebirth is... quite different? yes we did lost our physical body in eden, but after we got reborn our body didnt... change? 'change' here is like reborn as 'moth' again. we still maintain our previous achievement (hair, accessories, friends). its even hinted that our physical body regenerated in home, waiting for the soul to come back from orbit

imo sky rebirth is much more like part of growing. yes we died, but we didnt forgot our past memory nor losing our experience in our past 'life'. we lose our wings, yes, but with our memories intact we can search and get them again. we are not rebirthed, we are growing to be more experienced

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we are gaining more experience by "rebirth", thus making us to be more prepared for life and journey in the world of sky

cobalt garnet
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What's with skykids having different species?

bitter shale
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idk either SkyLOL

altho it might be from current skids and those kids that got statued in eden

mortal sonnet
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Sky Children of The Light Sky Kid Species Book (Incomplete)

The Moth Novus Lux (New Light) - A type of sky kid that has only emerged since it has been introduced to light, these species usually do not know what they are or have no personal being yet, they are often clueless and poorly navigatable on their surroundings, and will constantly sometimes interact with other sky kid species but seeing them as inanimate objects, the moth is a species that is not ever so rare considering the rapid growth of the sky kid population, some sky kids stay a moth but their mental skills do not stay the same, overtime they will get hold of their surroundings and mature to the point which they can be finally called "Veteran moths". Their appearance is known to be having short hair, light leather colored cape, a tale colored dressing and have one star, veteran moths have either 6 stars or more on their capes.

thin dirge
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Rebirth is actually defined as reliving your existence. Reincarnation is defined as your soul being born in a different body

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But the term rebirth here in Sky could still be different from the actual definition of Rebirth

bitter shale
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i always thought those two are the same thing-

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hshsh

thin dirge
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In Journey, rebirth does seem to follow the actual definition

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Well, I don't play Journey, but it seems like the case when it was explained to me somewhere that you start over and get reborn

cobalt garnet
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I wouldn't call them species I would refer to them as "forms".

thin dirge
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Time actually seems to pass for our skid and seems to retain their memories of their past lives, and also spirits and emotes stay, so that debunks the idea of them being "reborn" the same way like in Journey. Plus, after you get reborn the first time, it says "The real journey starts here", so I doubt we're reliving existence again

mortal sonnet
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(Note: Skykids can imitate different species, what's considered as a species is that what they are most permanently at, Sky kids that change their appearance to a different species temporarily is called the process of "Top Causa", If a SkyKid species changes to another Sky Kid Species permanently, that change is called "Glutinum Switch", Skykid species that constantly imitate the appearance of other Sky Kid Species, that sky kid is considered, "exolvuntur motare")

thin dirge
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It seems we're just... sent down and start over again. The only thing that resets when we get reborn are our wl

cobalt garnet
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(Note: Skykids can imitate different species, what's considered as a species is that what they are most permanently at, Sky kids that change their appearance to a different species temporarily is called the process of "Top Causa", If a SkyKid species changes to another Sky Kid Species permanently, that change is called "Glutinum Switch", Skykid species that constantly imitate the appearance of other Sky Kid Species, that sky kid is considered, "exolvuntur motare")
Hmm, can you elaborate?

mortal sonnet
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Basically, Sky kids that change their original appearance to another one temporarily then changing back are called "Top Causa"

A SkyKid that changes their appearance permanently, the process is called "Glutinum Switch"

A SkyKid that keeps switching from attire to attire is called "exolvuntur motare"

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I am a SkyKid species researcher

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quite the fancy to be using Latin terms like actual Science

short owl
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That seems a lot like individual behaviors rather than species differentiators

lethal stump
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like types of dogs

opal briar
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So like banana boys and toes also chibis?

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SkyElderVault < toe

sinful anvil
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what if moth hair is the eden ultimate gift

thin dirge
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Lmao

thin dirge
#

Dont you guys find it odd that the Valley twins are the only Elders that seems to have not regained their light even when we finish their cinstellation and meet them at The Light?

gilded fossil
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/wdym

bitter shale
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Regained? Are you reffering the cutscene?

thin dirge
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Not glowy

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They're the only ones that are like that. They haven't really regained light even when we finish their constellation

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Which is... odd...

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They're also the only ones whose diamond symbol on their chest is different too

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Well, kinda different from the other Elders

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Is it just me, or is that a little suspicious?

pearl latch
#

What are krill

lethal stump
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not just you, the twins have always had some weirdness about them pPopcorn

pearl latch
#

And why is there a big bad storm

thin dirge
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Lore moff??? pEyes

bitter shale
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Likely, since they are one star cleaved in two?

lethal stump
green tartan
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lot of weird thing with the twins

bitter shale
#

KADA I SEE YOU

green tartan
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Ye u se Me

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ive been sitting here regretting uh something-

gusty wharf
bitter shale
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Nicee

thin dirge
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Wait a sec, only their chest light regains their light

bitter shale
#

I always expecting the twins to fuse into one lol

thin dirge
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But they dont go glowy like the other Elders

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Only their diamond symbol?

bitter shale
#

Yeah, its quite unnoticeable tbh

Strange for the one who ruled the capital of a continent-

gusty wharf
#

m

thin dirge
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Maybe they're... young?

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Like, really young compared to the others?

lethal stump
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that seems to be the case

thin dirge
#

In terms of Elder age, they're children

lethal stump
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hm, i think they’d be more like 17/18

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since their realm is young adulthood

thin dirge
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Oh yeah

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Honestly, still feels off to me tho. They're really dull compared to the other Elders (No offence, Samekh-)

bitter shale
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I mean, maybe its related to their proffesion as athletes?

thin dirge
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Maybe, but still doesn't make sense. I mean, Mr. Wasteland dude here is a warrior. Still glowy

bitter shale
#

Like, simple appearance so they can uhhhh move freely

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Huh

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Now taht you mentioned it ._.

opal briar
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Can elders fly like we can?

bitter shale
#

In old cutscene, samekh flies-

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And they glowed more

thin dirge
#

The only time we see the Twin Elders glowed which is really similar to the other Elders is the old Beta cutscene of Valley Twins

opal briar
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Now that I think about it we don’t see them in game per say

thin dirge
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But even that is not the same as the other Elders

gilded fossil
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/wdym vao

bitter shale
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Wdym didnt see them in game-

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We at elast meet them twice, if you havent completed their conste

opal briar
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We see spirt memory’s in game , elders are olny in cut seamse

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Seanes

thin dirge
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Well, that's because the Elders arent quite dead as the Ancestors

bitter shale
#

Hum, well... since elders are quite... special cases?

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Tehy have their own realms

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Cant interacted to skids realms directly

gusty wharf
#

aren't elders fallen stars?

bitter shale
#

Yep

thin dirge
#

Yeah

bitter shale
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I dont elders are dead nor alive, they are exist but in weakened state

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Obvious case? Isle, gw and forest

opal briar
#

Wonder who or what was the true 1st sky kid

gusty wharf
#

what happened to isle elder anyways? his mask is cracked and broken

thin dirge
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Probably Prince-

bitter shale
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Well Teth... i think they lose their ability to make diamond so i counted it as weakened state lol

thin dirge
#

I mean, Prince looks exactly like an Skid but with a star mask-

bitter shale
#

I wanna get the mask-

opal briar
#

“Mask”

bitter shale
#

Face? pEyes

thin dirge
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I looked into the old concept timeline, and I noticed that the Prince does indeed have a cape in one of the images in the timeline

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Not a poncho, a cape. It just looks like a poncho

bitter shale
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Oho- pEyes

thin dirge
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The rough drawings of Prince are just their cape, but simplified, so it looks like a poncho

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I mean, our cape works the same

bitter shale
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Especially when we use original stance

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The cape literally covering our front too with that stance

gusty wharf
#

ikr

thin dirge
#

Plus, Prince flies like an skid too in the sketches of the story

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They literally fly with us like an skid

gusty wharf
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he's tiny right?

bitter shale
#

Which one- is it in Tom Zhao's website??

thin dirge
#

Yep

bitter shale
#

Smol, almost same weight like us

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Lemme check again

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HEIGHT

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Dangit

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Not weight, height

opal briar
#

How , heavy is a sky kid?._.

lethal stump
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ignore the meme portion, heres the prince and a skid compared pEyes

bitter shale
#

Lighter than a crab at least-

gusty wharf
#

krill gun-

bitter shale
#

Lmaoo

Krill gun best gun

opal briar
#

Star mask , huh

gusty wharf
#

looks like the prophecy pendant

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lol

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and the light thing if we hyonk

opal briar
#

Wonder if connected

lethal stump
#

exactly pPopcorn

opal briar
#

The flight button as well?

gusty wharf
#

👀

opal briar
#

It’s all stars

lethal stump
#

yes, the prince/king motif can be found around the game

bitter shale
#

Maybe the propechy is about the arrival of the light?

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I mean, it can be

gusty wharf
#

i did spoil myself with the prophecy spoilers but i still don't understand much

thin dirge
#

Ooh, maybe

bitter shale
#

Cant spell prophecy, i apologize

gusty wharf
#

prolly gonna watch it again lol

thin dirge
#

I kinda did spoil myself, bit I understood right away

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You can dm me if you want about it

opal briar
#

the prince is the player character from journey

bitter shale
#

Wanna read my take on SoP statues with the concept of the prophecy? SkyLOL

gusty wharf
#

sure

bitter shale
#

These are still based on the teaser

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So no beta content yet

gusty wharf
#

wew

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is it a turtle?

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i thought it's a goat lol 👀

bitter shale
#

Its a bearded turtle SkyLOL

gusty wharf
#

ahhh

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ok

bitter shale
#

And yea i thought it was another animal too-

gusty wharf
#

xD

bitter shale
#

Ahhh nono

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Its still beta

gusty wharf
#

ahh

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ok

bitter shale
#

delete that before a shepherd see-

gusty wharf
#

loll

mild lark
#

Is there any news?

lethal stump
#

about what ?

mild lark
#

About sky lore

lethal stump
#

not as far as i know...?

mild lark
#

Oh ok

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I do think that light in the game is something you can hold.. like it has a physical property

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Almost like water..

strange fiber
#

henlo I wanna get into reading the lore but where do i start

lethal stump
open bridge
#

What did they need watch towers for? Watching krills?

blissful peak
#

I feel like eden was a castle where the king lived before it became chaos

boreal nebula
#

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Thanks to this picture I suddenly got another interpretayionof tje constellation symbol (on the rock pad in home)

The 5 stars are the elders on the Eden door while our CoL is the bottom dot.
We, as the original Sky people, are guide to the others by a long staff which may refers to the Isle Elder and leading us to a more awareness state of our being (the middle dot with the circle around)

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Our journey from beginning to our goal.

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.
The middle circle reminds me of our skykid animation during getting another wedge

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When we floats with the light circles around us

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OMG... I wish I were a painter to depict that clearly too youpWow

thin dirge
#

Actually, I think the middle dot is the CoL

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The bottom dot is Isle Elder

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Isle Elder is meant to be the ferryman, the Elder that shepherd people to The Light. And we know that the Child is well... the Child of The Light. So Isle Elder being the bottom star that points up to The Light makes sense.

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As Isle Elder sends ppl and probably creatures to The Light

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The other five at the top represents the other 5 Elders. The one on the very top and middle of the five is definitely Vault. Also shown on the door to Eden

rain fossil
#

/hmm okay but what about the 2 dot not connected to the circle

thin dirge
#

To be honest, not sure. They could just be there as extra stars only

rain fossil
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/ this is jen, im on my friends acc

thin dirge
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Ohh, okay

rain fossil
#

/well on the pedestal in orbit you also see 2 dots that's not connected

thin dirge
#

Yeah. I'm actually unsure. They could just be there as extra stars, or maaybe they could represent Ancestors/Spirits, Light Creatures or both? I'm not quite sure

rain fossil
#

/king + prince?

thin dirge
#

I see King+Prince being the same person as the CoL

rain fossil
#

/hmm. Yea okay

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/guys the new halloween hat has the diamond with a dot shape

boreal nebula
#

Yeah. I'm actually unsure. They could just be there as extra stars, or maaybe they could represent Ancestors/Spirits, Light Creatures or both? I'm not quite sure
@thin dirge even Friends who travelled/joined with you (or strangers not yet met)

wispy canopy
#

Hey guys

bitter shale
#

i mean, without them the constellation woudl look uncompleted

frail hearth
#

they look like the empty spots for favorite friends in The Light constellation pThink

bitter shale
#

yeah! that also lead me to believe those will eb added in the next update SkyLOL

frail hearth
#

maybe i'm overthinking idk

bitter shale
#

except for the ultimate gift but shhhhh

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my candles and hearts are stolen by ts oof

frail hearth
#

wasteland has 4 spirits missing whsgdn

frail hearth
#

and vault has a lot too

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hmm

bitter shale
#

lost stars on each constellation:
isle : 4
prairie : 0
forest : 1
valley : 1
Wasteland : 4
vault : 5

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cmiiw

frail hearth
#

WAIT ISLE

kindred oar
#

Woah isle, wasteland, and vault has a lot and I can tell that they probably have loooong history

bitter shale
#

wait vault have 5

frail hearth
#

4 prophets, the season is in isle, 4 missing spirts

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holy heck

kindred oar
#

galaxy mind

bitter shale
#

vault have the most

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its quite easy to missed that lmao, thought its only 3

frail hearth
#

but like vault is the smallest constellation

bitter shale
#

yeah... gw and vault need 10 stars to form the conste

kindred oar
#

The smallest constellation yet hold a lot of mystery

boreal nebula
#

I really hope they wll be added in the future

kindred oar
#

I hope so too. I think it will blow my mind if after the season of prophecy, the missing star will show up

frail hearth
#

wasteland homies probably died during whatever happened there

boreal nebula
#

Please don't give me false hope 😅

kindred oar
#

It would be like once we know what happened, we could know what happen to the missing spirits

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haha fingers crossed

boreal nebula
#

I dont want to hype for a season and then being let down

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It would be nice tho

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oh no, the idea is rooting in me SkyLOL

bitter shale
#

how many stars does it need to form each conste? (minus the elder)
isle : 7 (currently 3, lost 4)
prairie : 8 (currently 8, lost 0)
forest : 9 (currently 8, lost 1)
valley : 8 (currently 7, lost 1)
wasteland : 10 (currently 6, lost 4)
vault : 10 (currently 5, lost 5)

frail hearth
bitter shale
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huh-

frail hearth
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not my pic btw

bitter shale
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where did you find them

aw

kindred oar
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Wow

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That's a big dude

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I didn't notice that before

bitter shale
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same

my phone always lagged there so i didnt have time to watch around-

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also, is that dude bringng some kind of sword? like, look at that picture, in front of that dude

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it kinda covered by the white candle

kindred oar
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Maybe? That looks like the sword that you can find in eden

frail hearth
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let me get better pics

bitter shale
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no... i think it looks different

frail hearth
kindred oar
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Oh yeah the handle looks different

bitter shale
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Thank you koma SkySalute

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Careful with the krills there

frail hearth
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yw B)

kindred oar
static hazel
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No just «easter egg»

bitter shale
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Its a literal EASTER eggs SkyLOL

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Dangit my brain goes auto mode and wrote manta egg instead-

kindred oar
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oh lol i keep wondering why they put it there

viscid torrent
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I think its for daily quest in the old version of sky

eternal oasis
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Do you think that they'll hatch one day in an update SkyThink

livid valley
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hatches to another egg

boreal nebula
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One of those is broken with a yolk (is this the word?) of stone

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So I think no SkyShrug

frail hearth
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what if they are

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megabird eggs

heady shoal
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did you noticed, in last part of Eden, if you look straight up, u can see megabird?

frail hearth
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orbit? if so yes

heady shoal
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yes, yes... oh, okay... I just noticed recently

gilded fossil
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/yes really makes me wonder why she's there

gray condor
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Excuse me. I just want to ask, what is this channel for?

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What lore means?

frail hearth
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in here we talk about the story of sky and make theories about it

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all that stuff

gray condor
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@frail hearth thankyousomuch! ❤️

frail hearth
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np!

gilded fossil
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/backstory

hushed steeple
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Why are you writing a / at the beginning of every message? @gilded fossil

gilded fossil
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/care to stay wanabe crab? imma fetch you the lore moff doc

frail hearth
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/

gilded fossil
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/ off topic milan but it started as a coding joke

hushed steeple
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Oh

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So the megabird is this Giant thing in the ending cutscene?

gilded fossil
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/yup the big squirly thing

hushed steeple
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Or credits

worn citrus
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So what happened to the civilization that we are stumbling about? Those were the sky ppl right?

gilded fossil
worn citrus
gilded fossil
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/hmm faux what do you think about the civilazation? I do have my own theories but im interested to hear yours

worn citrus
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Hmm gimme a moment to think

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The sky people met their demise, presumably noted from the intro of the game "if only they had listened..."
My guess is that they messed with something ancient or sacred that unleashed the unruly and consuming darkness, like essence stuff and creatures, like what we see in Golden Wasteland
The sky ppl were an advanced civilization, but as great as their prowess was, the nature of their supposed curiosity reflects that to us humans irl since we have a tendency similar to this

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And either it was the King's ignorance or sheer curiosity and desire about whatever that said thing was that was not supposed to be intervened

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I haven't really thought much about the children of light (us players) other than being angels sent to free the spirits of the sky ppl from limbo and fix what they had wrought to the world

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That's all for my ted talk now thnx

solar relic
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pPopcorn interesting

gilded fossil
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/ claps

worn citrus
rain steeple
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Woah that's really interesting

worn citrus
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I've been told that God is somewhere in the story since eden, ascension, heaven and all those things in sky
But I ain't sure about that hue

gilded fossil
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/well everything is true until proven otherwise

worn citrus
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But its only a theory
A Gamer Theoryy

gilded fossil
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/ skids are made out of gatorade yall cant stop me

solar relic
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you could say that megabird is like the god of sky

worn citrus
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I see

gilded fossil
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/ whether she good or not depends

worn citrus
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Its a she?

solar relic
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in concept art megabird is referred to as she i think

worn citrus
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Sky kids are firebenders since they pull out candles that are already litted

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Why is she called megabird? Cuz of all those birds and mantas inhabiting her?

gilded fossil
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/maybe yea

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/not sure really

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/that's sth the devs wrote in the arts

solar relic
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not sure but in the concept art she didn't even look like a bird SkyLOL

gilded fossil
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/ we call her megan the spaghetti monster

worn citrus
sacred rapids
worn citrus
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So I guess why the King in the cutscene in Vault shows him being all that mannered and stuff was because he was humbled by his actions and consequences brought upon to him and all of his kingdom and he no longer was the person he was when he was alive

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Or if he is the king i think im wrong

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Only then after completing each map is when u release their spirits and souls from limbo

gilded fossil
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/hmm? except in the murals king isnt present in vault cutscene

solar relic
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the figure in the eden mural is the eden elder but some accept that eden elder = king

worn citrus
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Ohw then who was in the cutscene in the vault?

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Like the one who gave us the diamond thing

solar relic
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the elder that gives you the diamond is the vault elder

gilded fossil
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/that;s lamed...? (not sure the name)

solar relic
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yeah vault elder's concept name was lamed

worn citrus
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Ahh i see
So the king aint present?

solar relic
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well

gilded fossil
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/well

hushed steeple
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Sky kids are just fragments of a sun pSkyPeek

worn citrus
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He isn't anywhere i guess

solar relic
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the king is in-game but he doesn't appear in the way you think

worn citrus
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the sun is a deadly laser

hushed steeple
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You only see him here

worn citrus
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Ooooooohhhhh

gilded fossil
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/yep that's the dude

worn citrus
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I get it now

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He isn't explicitly shown in eden tho?

solar relic
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i like to think that figure is eden elder/king and the circle thing is the eden diamond

gilded fossil
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/nuh uh

hushed steeple
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Nope

worn citrus
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I see

gilded fossil
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/ res i thought it was a pancake

worn citrus
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our capes/wings are airbenders

solar relic
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no i think that's an apple jen SkyLOL

sacred rapids
worn citrus
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The king in the mural looks so creepy tho

solar relic
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from the canon lore doc regarding the king said by ash (current concept artist)

worn citrus
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Like why is he the only one shown with a mouth? I think its implying he's still in agony, screaming in pain

sacred rapids
solar relic
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he just wants to eat his apple in peace 😔

worn citrus
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But if he's the one responsible for the downfall of his kingdom and what happened elsewhere, then maybe he deserved it

hushed steeple
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He wants to play football but all the elders were busy 😩

worn citrus
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Implying he is in limbo

sacred rapids
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ngl the mural is sorta reminding me of the titan kronos from greek mythology

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and you know

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the kid eating

worn citrus
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Which god was kronos again? god of?

sacred rapids
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he's a titan not a god

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I think it was time but I'm not sure

worn citrus
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Ah lmao misread

sacred rapids
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it's been a while

gilded fossil
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/well, i do have theory that king's not evil he just needed therapy

sacred rapids
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he most definitely needs some therapy

short owl
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They all need therapy

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Kids bringing light just isn't enough

hushed steeple
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People think that the king wanted too much power and because of this the storm was created and all that

solar relic
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oh on that

worn citrus
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I have a headcanon that the Krills where once creatures of light that got distorted, corrupted and warped beyond comprehension that they became blind, wandering aimlessly, and reacting violently to light creatures, possibly reminding of what once it was, and because of how corrupted and distorted it became, it saw it as a bad memory or a trauma that it desperately needs to kill the creature of light to remove the bad memory inhabiting the Krill

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In other words, they are in limbo as well

sacred rapids
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for some reason I get the feeling that the king is kinda like the queen of england where he is still a monarch but doesn't dicide how the whole kingdom works

gilded fossil
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/ krill also need therapy

hushed steeple
solar relic
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the theory goes that the king got power hungry bc of what the power diamonds could do and wanted to harness a bunch of the power for himself, so he ordered for a large diamond to be made

large power diamond probably couldn't take the power it held and farted

hushed steeple
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Not mine

short owl
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Wanting power can be a completely valid thing. You can't accomplish much without power. But with that power must come understanding and responsibility. It's possible the need for power was legitimate, but the understanding to go with it was insufficient

worn citrus
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Yep totally

sacred rapids
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the way the king is looking at me in that concept is like "so what if I fed you to the krill?"

solar relic
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yesh that's what i was thinking null

worn citrus
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Goes the same with us humans

short owl
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So as not to out the kind of work I do, consider a bank. In order to allow us to make purchases safely, they need a tooooooon of power.

solar relic
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man,, at this rate everyone in sky needs therapy

worn citrus
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Wanting power can be a completely valid thing. You can't accomplish much without power. But with that power must come understanding and responsibility. It's possible the need for power was legitimate, but the understanding to go with it was insufficient
That was basically the premise of the progress of tech with the dispute in humanity in the past and history

gilded fossil
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/even the skids

sacred rapids
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yeah

solar relic
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even the grass

worn citrus
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Grass needs some love too

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NO STEP ON GRASS

sacred rapids
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I think the jellyfish don't need therapy but I'm not sure on it

short owl
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Money to pay people, reputation to be accepted as eventually going to pay, tons of other people's money... It's no laughing matter

worn citrus
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Jellyfishes don't have minds
So they are enlightened and free

sacred rapids
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good job jellyfish

worn citrus
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They released their earthly tethers and became the wind

sacred rapids
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pJellyfish good, helpful, enlightened

solar relic
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Money to pay people, reputation to be accepted as eventually going to pay, tons of other people's money... It's no laughing matter
going by this, the king maybe needed to establish himself as a worthy ruler of the kingdom and did so by using teth's (forest elder) invention of the power diamond to improve civilisation's quality of life? then he eventually let the power get to his head (idk how to explain this part)

worn citrus
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And got consumed by his greed and lust for power that eventually led to the demise of him and his kingdom

gilded fossil
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/yea to be fair minus the ded trees forest seems pretty advance

worn citrus
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How it happened is another question

sacred rapids
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I wonder what krill would think of jellyfish pThink
they try to attack and then they would have a jellyfish hat is what I think

solar relic
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the fart of eden crackpot theory

worn citrus
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Like all the places except vault are pretty much in ruins

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Jellyfishes have shockers
Jelly shocks the shrimp
Jelly wins

sacred rapids
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quick someone draw a krill with a jellyfish on top of it's head

thin dirge
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Wait, that reminds me of something

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Krills are food of Whales irl...

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Could that also be applied to Sky...?

worn citrus
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Skids are the avatars since they reincarnate/reborn and have past lives

sacred rapids
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I think the whales and krill are roughly the same size in sky

gilded fossil
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quick someone draw a krill with a jellyfish on top of it's head
/jou we already have a cursed krilltjn

sacred rapids
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wait what

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oh right

thin dirge
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Well, Whales in terms of lore are meant to be waaayyyy bigger

gilded fossil
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/ pins in gen chat

thin dirge
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They probably had to scale it down because phone limitations

worn citrus
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Whales are the biggest animals we have

thin dirge
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Yeah, and they're meant to be the biggest in Sky too

sacred rapids
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I've heard krill are the rough size of a irl blue whale

gilded fossil
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/what about the chonky mantas?

worn citrus
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So those were whales? I thought they were just giant weird light fishes

sacred rapids
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so a whale being a actual whale in sky would be at least 100 time bigger than the krill

worn citrus
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How bout those cosmic mantas in vault? And since their cosmic, i thought u would see one in eden

sacred rapids
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and that's like half the sky kingdom

thin dirge
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Lemme just go to Tom Zhao's instagram for a minute

gilded fossil
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/nah vault is just one big acid trip, cosmic mantas dont seem to be real

thin dirge
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I just know they're meant to be a lot bigger than current game. Bigger than an Elder Manta at least

sacred rapids
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if they were that big we could walk up one to get to orbit SkyLOL

solar relic
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that reminds me of an old post i made HSHSN

gilded fossil
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/ pls share if lore related res

solar relic
sacred rapids
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whao

solar relic
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if only whales were accurate to real life size

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then again we wouldn't be here if they were

sacred rapids
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*society if we could fix GW

worn citrus
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Society if candles didn't need to reset everyday

sacred rapids
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that could be taken a few ways

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like to they reset at all or every few secs?

worn citrus
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Levitating spirit confirmed to be an earthbender

thin dirge
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Whales, are described to be "The largest and most ancient denizens in the Sky World", stated in tom Zhao's instagram-

gilded fossil
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/oh woww link please butterflygam?

boreal nebula
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Hope I don't interrupt anything

In case you have missed this

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Thanks to this picture I suddenly got another interpretayionof tje constellation symbol (on the rock pad in home)

The 5 stars are the elders on the Eden door while our CoL is the bottom dot.
We, as the original Sky people, are guide to the others by a long staff which may refers to the Isle Elder and leading us to a more awareness state of our being (the middle dot with the circle around)
.
The middle circle reminds me of our skykid animation during getting another wedge
When we floats with the light circles around us
OMG... I wish I were a painter to depict that clearly too youpWow

solar relic
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tom zhao's ig page is @/tomzhaodesign i believe it's been a while since i got instagram tho

thin dirge
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I think the dot in the middle is the CoL. The bottom dot is Isle Elder.

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Cause Isle Elder is the ferryman who shepherd ppl and creatures to The Light

boreal nebula
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Imagine that but with the 5 Elders with the same pose as this Renaissance Masterpiec

sacred rapids
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is that last pic supposed to be there?

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oh

thin dirge
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Also, I think its in the order of Elders connected to each line in the Eden door? I thought Vault would be the one at the top-

sacred rapids
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let me go look brb

thin dirge
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8 stars surrounding the dot. Prince mask has 8 points

worn citrus
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Since the king is presented as being in agony, would he be the bottom dot?

thin dirge
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Connect all those 8 stars to the middle, you get the 8 pointed star, whuch is the Prince's mask

sacred rapids
gilded fossil
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/ 2 disconnected, both in orbit and home space

thin dirge
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I think they're just extra stars tbh

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Not really part of the constellation

gilded fossil
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/hmm but really why they add them tho, to bboth the orbit constellation and home constellation

boreal nebula
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In the painting idea I have, there is a Moth in front of Daleth too, witnessing this ultimate vision Isle Elder shows

The Alpha and the Omega of SkypWow pWow pWow

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...those two additional separatrd stars... I have no interepretation for those, maybe just friends who come with you on the journey

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Or
maybe strangers not yet met

sacred rapids
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maybe season guide collections

gilded fossil
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/oh yea friend constellation is still a "constelation" after all

boreal nebula
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BUT
In the painting I would put dark and shiny boy in those spots

gilded fossil
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/ you used to see fav friends in orbit btw

sacred rapids
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friend constalation is eden constalation

gilded fossil
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/ *canstolocion is the correct spelling btw

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/yea tru tho

lethal stump
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canstolocion.....? what ?

sacred rapids
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that doesn't look like a word

lethal stump
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do you mean constellation ?

gilded fossil
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/ jou wrote constAlation

frail hearth
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bruh it's just a typo no big deal

gilded fossil
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/sorry wasnt mean spirited was just having fun

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/...anyways...

thin dirge
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With the two other stars, they may represent Ancestors on one, Light Creatures on the other, maybe

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I mean, that's the only explaination I could think of that sorta makes sense to me

lethal stump
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my fanfic brain said « what if it represents two other kingdoms » then accidentally made two fan kingdoms

gilded fossil
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/home space is a place?

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/one is for home space and the other for eden then

solar relic
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home space is where the heart is

bitter shale
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Then eden is where you lose your sanity-

Hh

gilded fossil
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/so maybe the col is disconnected to their own heart

bitter shale
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Hmm what if there is 2 constells thet refused to follow the king? pEyes

worn citrus
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HERESY

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Oops time for intracivil conflict

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  • King
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Any idea on what happened and what caused Eye of Eden to be like that?

lethal stump
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big diamond go boom