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daleth's mask
ah-

also which ark mural you reffered?
Y'all there are murals in the arc cave too
Where can i find the enchantment x lightseeker theory?
Isn't that a scholar mask being depicted?
ark cave are
story though
also daleth role as some kind of light creature guide to the star... it might be their way to repent their past sin?
@tender dune ooo the crab one
bonk
so the enchantment people are most likely previous scholars
they just changed clothes to adapt to the new env
Daleth still seems to have the same role as he did in concepts. Shepherd people/spirits to the light
That crab in the last pic cute--
staff
yep
Damn-

anyone remember that animation titled Prince of Egypt?
uh
its about Moses
i still remember some part of teh story tbh
but i cant worded it right-
/what what's mosses?
well if you compared Resh to Moses, they both killed someone and in Resh's case he killed literally everyone in the Sky Kingdom
Also i'm not really a religious person so i'm unfamiliar with these topics.
yep!
I’m a confused agnostic with fascination in religion I have no idea
I... Still can't see any evidence of the King doing that- 
Am I being dense?
Not at all
In my headcanon, king made diamond
diamond go boom
everyone died
which means king = killed everyone
thus king has negative brain cells 😌

oh here goes my rahu theory

I can't help but only see the King being a victim from the Concept-
The theory i discussed yesterday was about the isle elder be the reason of the war started. Like, something happened to him and then other elders were like "hmm king is mad"
hmm the king ate too many diamonds, now his braincells are gone-
/ a game-
but hey, its just a theory
A SKY THEORY
Can i send again the theory of the constellations?
on mobile, hold down on the message and you’ll see the option
/ pc only but go near the message, click the "..." and therre will be Copy Message link
(if ur android you most likely wont see the copy message link option ) :').
Share message works too.
alright i gotta go play sinoalice cya all
You get an option to copy the message link

This is my theory about the spirits of every constellation represents traits of the elders. Isle elder have a rejection about something (?)
Dang, already sent :v
I should be in class but instead I'm vibing here
What new theories have we made
Well, the spirits seem to match their elder's apparent personality 
/ wwah i just said that and got deleted???
Me: (pops in)
Everyone, immediately: Lilly no
/ lily get back to class school important
We're honestly just chatting, guys. 😂
We're not even learning. I take my school seriously
Well, the spirits seem to match their elder's apparent personality
/and the ones being chosen as spirits arre the ones picked by the elders?
real school is more important than lore school, 
you need school to become big brain here ((jk))
But seriously, what are we talking about?
Spirits, i guess.
why is isle elder not on door started this thing
This how i came up with a theory that isle elder rejected the king plans and got "krilled"
/ oh the only one with the reject emote
Oof. Poor dude
/ that might support the isle said no to king theory
Isle seemed to be devoid of advanced structures and technology.
/ well they do have boats and staffs that can catch light
Probably isle elder rejected modernity and got his realm destroyed by time?
no butterfly
/ butterfly no
Isn't it supposed to represent "the start of civilization", tho? I thought that was a thing
Nah, dont worry, Im not gonna say what it is
Yeah, isle seemed to be more traditional.
ANYWAYS
What if Isle was a place where old ancestor customs and culture was still in practice 
Trust me Butterfly, I want to know asap too. But we have to WAIT
The spoilers are major so I can't say
And also I TOTALLY have to do it with everyone else
I need to watch this chat go absolutely fricking crazy
Y'all lore channel needs to play together
Because we are going to arrive to COMPLETE chaos if we all play separately
This chat will literally descend into madness when this Season gets out
/anyways, bacc to lorre??
This season look boring but epic....
Never judge a book by its cover
Thats what they say~
I wanna bonk my head back and forth rn
Mood
i have arrived
Who knows?
I wanna learn the thing about prophecies. There's SO MUCH
I love the story but it's moodddd......
Hi Koma!
it will
My hype just went up 300%
Mainly for the chaos of this chat now
It's gonna Boop. It totally will
Mother of goats
boop it most likely will
/ uh guyss lore...???
Sorry, sorry, lore
Oops, I think I may have rekindled the hype again-
Ah yes :D
what were yall talkin about before this 
Sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry
The new season is weird and funny coz there will be an Avatar from there....
Isle is themed with the birth of a civilization. (is primal civilization the right word?)
I believe it is primitive?
O
why an avatar?
Primitive..... Old ages...
i mean i do see the korra hair but why avatar-
Ouh avatar/Aang
And new beginnings
Plz dont bring avatar into thissss
Oh yes, primitive. Sorry
You're fine.
Some ppl haven't watched ATLA. XD
So let's probably just keep off that for now
Coz we'll continue the saga of avatar that has been suspended for a centuries
It may represent the beginning too...
Noooooo
im so confused how is avatar related SJDJNS
Gosshhhhh, I'm still reeling from Prophecy spoilers
Earth fire air and water doesnt always have to do with the avatar
I dont think Ill sleep-
/okay since we really straying into gen chat i will start a question
/wwhat arre the spirits manta made off
I left to drink water, i am totally lost
Oh YEAH
I was wondering about that! What do the elements have to do with the prophecy?
Don't confused yet coz it will BE ||SPOILER...... ||
I have been spoiled entirely, but I rather not share because I rather not spoil this interesting season.
👀
hold up are we being beta spoiled rn,,
🤫
No.
ok phew 
youtube already spoiled me all the cool stuff
/ also sevaral people are typing
ok phew
Death to spoilers.
We gonna see some prophecies from this world power
Im barely containing myself rn, can we please not talk about Beta? Talking about Isle did not help-
@hushed steeple That's what I figured. But like, WHY do they have to deal with the lore of Sky? Sky is all about light and stuff. Why do we need the other elements?
Definitely did not help
But this is lore discussion spoilers
okay butterfly calm down-
Can we talk about different stuff like Mantas?
well not that extreme but yeah please don't tease beta/spoil beta here. beta stuff is subjected to change and thus cannot be used as solid evidence for lore. anyway let's move on
Ah yes, I haven't seen that several people in a while in general.
Wollowkayyy
OH
But this is lore discussion spoilers
/ well not lore disscusion beta
/anyways, mantas
P O O P
no
Just a joke😳
did anyone talk to devs about the poop?
/yea how about that pooop thing
anything but the poop again
Mantas goona have some powers in future
XD
@hushed steeple Ah. I'm sad I missed that season actually. :(
did anyone talk to devs about the poop?
@tender dune Wait w h a t
POOP HAS LEAVE US...
/ wwell beta iss wworst so pooop issnt that bad
But mantas. What are you trying to talk about with mantas
we need closure
Mantas give us poop
/mantas in vault are made of jelly fish
I just wanted to talk about a different topic, Mantas as an example-
What does poop stand for?
jell-o mantas
I came for the chaos. I was given the chaos
did anyone talk to devs about the poop?
||You mean the krill that pops out of the toilet?||
Presents Out Of Parties?
Every poop represent as different emotions of mantas.... If they angry gonna be fire... If they feel supporting gonna be nature
Buttlerflies can be upgraded to mantas?
Maybe
0.0
Hmm... Doesnt seems so
Peace out
Maybe a certain type of butterfly?
/ holup lemme get the poop explaination, but no one iss allowed to talk about it again
i think the manta babies just look like butterflies, so that's why baby mantas are called like butterflies
Presents out if parties? Butterflies? Mantas?
Wow I am confused
I
The mantas are being of light, right?
There is an entire summary for poop?
What’s the poop
The « poop » is a nickname the devs gave something in-game which might be important to lore. There is only one, it’s found during a full CR, it’s hidden in plain sight, and it looks like a « poop ». That is what we know.
/og by bricky
let me get concept art mantas
||You mean the krill that pops out of the toilet?||
@lean gyro waaaat?
I
I think they are revolutioning in every stage of light creature
Thinking about poop breaks my brain, but its an okay topic
yesh they just look like butterflies so they are called as such here i guess
@lean gyro waaaat?
I'm sorry I am still stuck on that-
I feel so lazy to send that clues again for POOP
i just- linked it
Okay I can't open that link so uh
What’s the poop
- There's only 1 of it
- We often encounter it, but hidden in plain sight
- We can "probably" encounter it during a full CR
- Not: the candles (not our own candle either) / Plants or darkstones / Winged Lights / The Easter Eggs in Prairie or Hidden Forest / in an OOB
area / a creature / in the Office - It's droppings. Literally. So, don't think too much about it
- Its in the World of Sky
- It's an intentional thing and has some significance
- "Poop" is just a nickname for it, but also refer no. 5. It's actual "poop" in a way
- could see it multiple times a day
Also a note: the poop was a joke name given to something by a dev early on and it kinda stuck (a nickname but also can be quite literal)
[credit to Ginkomimi]
Ahh there is it
thanks both 
My goodness-
/ooop jinx
Good brickyyyyy
I was the one who did the original list tho-
Thanks guys
Thanks for being our favorite informed lurker Bricky

Gink made it.
And you too Butterfly. Or Gink. Or whoever made it. XDD
butterfly made the og list then i condensed it to make it easier
Oh, I see..
tbh doesnt matter who u credit its still words by the devs so-
So butterfly you are made of butter light righttttt
Wh-
Ahahahahahahah so sudden
Also why does Bricky just get summoned whenever we need him. He just pops in and is like "I am summoned for your lore needs"
pretty much all the light creatures are made out of light 
Yeah
Nothing just breaking my iced brain here
because i have no life, and today is an online school day so i’m home
Also why does Bricky just get summoned whenever we need him. He just pops in and is like "I am summoned for your lore needs"
The hero we didn't know we needed.
Oh yeah... Does look like flying glowing butter-
Bricky, hero of the lore
Glowing butter is everywhere
Bricky, lore kid with no life
But we need bread
...Mood
I have no life too
Gonna take some our flesh and make some bread
Megan is your mama waking you up to take breakfast
/ conclusion we're garlic bread sticks
I cannot wait for the new Season now. Now, I'm just hyped for the chaos that will happen here
Not just for the lore. Mainly lore chat chaos
are yall ready for lore moffs every 10 seconds? 
no
Guys what are we TALKING ABOUT
I don't think comparisng us to food items counts as lore
No way we'll gonna got SLOWBOMB in that time
Oh boy, so many lore moffs
Bricky, lore kid with no life
"Wielding the sword created from nothing, and forges on to continue the lore with the power of no life."
/ bricky pops in whenever we need lore moff doc
i hope the lore moff doc gets pinned before the season starts, we’re gonna need it there if we have a 10 min slowdown
Who wants a bet for the slow mode?
community elders and TGC staff can pin things
What happen to lore ch when season started...
SLOWBOMBED IN ONE HOUR........
Ooof
we still have until october y’all 
Krill is your fork and whale is your spoon
Oh yes!
Not to that scale, but this chat is defitely gonna go wild and go for 5 mins
for now yall will have to fend off the beta spoilers and prepare the oncoming lore moffs for the
o n s l a u g h t
And it's already Sep 21. We're in trouble
/krill takes up garlic bread but he hates the spice
Why is ig going to be a Slowmode bomb?
Tbh we should just tell everyone "do not come to lore channel after season of prophecy release"
I have a bunch of pic to discuss
I don't wanna say anything but I'm 100% sure this chat will literally be on actual fire when it comes out
/ go ahead teb~
Yes Teb! Sorry, we talk a lot
I don't wanna say anything but I'm 100% sure this chat will literally be on actual fire when it comes out
/ flashbacks
I don't wanna say anything but I'm 100% sure this chat will literally be on actual fire when it comes out
I cannot wait.
Yeah, a lot, but it didn't got slowmode tho
Tbh we should just tell everyone "do not come to lore channel after season of prophecy release"
@thorn trout
WOWOWWWOW GOOD IDEA!!!!! LEAVE THE MOFF HERE
.... it did
Thats the teaser pic, not the teaser vid
@median stone SHOOSH
Teaser pic definitely got slowmode, for 2 mins
The vid did not get slow mode
yeah i know
Ouh that first picture that get us bombarded by slowmode?
i thought it was the promo pic oop
Sorry Discord app crash (?)
Im already freaking out
||Wild for asking everything||!!!
cough lore time ?
Okay, y'all go crazy over Prophecy
I got class and stuff again. XD
Bye guys! Ttyl!
what was it you wanted to talk about, Teb ?
Im really tempted to give hints, but I'm just barely holding back
Anyways, sorry. Lore time!
butterfly you re-opened SOP teasing then you say you wanna stop talking about it...
maybe talk about it in #beta-discussion to kinda take out that energy??
/hmm what's with the pics teb?
Lore time.....what kind of lore you want?
1.King...
2.light creatures....
3.Eden....
4.Poop...
5.the skykids...
6.Elders....
7.Season stories....
8.realm....
9.powers....
10.the factories of power diamonds....
First of all, the firsf pic is not mine I found in #beta-screenshots-videos but I didn't renamedthe file wjth the username, so no idea who to credit
Teb is trying to do something, guys
Sorryyy I've send it too late
They said the Crab in Valley were NOT attacking them because of the Lantern
takes out megaphone beta content in beta channels©️
Am I giving some beta things?
valley crabs attack anything close
please don’t post beta pictures here
/guys shs wait for teb
*NOT
Ouh
Not attacking, sorry
Okay teb I don't know about that thing yet
so the eye of eden is a giant dark stone?
The latern stop the crab from attacking us??
that’s a common theory, yes Bailey
And yesterday I used a lantern spell and went to the massacred manta by the first krill
I was surprised that the Krill turned away from the small manta
Twice
!
it wanted the lamp?
that krill has weird ai 
/oh teb try with the sanc crabs
No, Krill simply turned away as the picture show
to me the krill (with or without lamp) doesnt always attack the manta. [esp nowadays its very wonky]
Where do krills come from?
we dunno, up to you :3
we don't know
like last time i was far from the krill and when i took a screenshot it 180 degrees flipped to attack me
I was there, semi hidden behind that pillar but [THE KRILL] simply turned, without even having its lightvision on

common krill origin theories:
- war machines
- naturally-occurring
- corrupted light creatures
Or at least so I recall
as i said
krills have funky ai
Sooo
/okay and the third pics?
Today I took a trip to Edd
The wall stuff in stormlcck..hahha i took a pic of it last week but was like nah not imp
common krill origin theories:
- war machines
- naturally-occurring
- corrupted light creatures
I wonder what they once were..
well pre-stormlock
Okay funfact:Krill have 6 sense....
OUH THERE YOU ARE( you are behind in one km)
tbh i think the krills were corrupted elder mantas
but that's another whole can of worms, i'll let teb finish
*Eden (not Edd, Megan's abusive boyfriend 
/ teb once you finish imma have a crackpot theory about edd
I can't help but wonder if krills also reproduce like mantas..
Just a typo, Edd=Eden 
/ Markii, no pings means no mentioning
O sorry
so I took a trip in Eden and after a random idea, I took a crab to the summit/corridor
Okay funfact:Krill have 6 sense....
OUH THERE YOU ARE( you are behind in one km)
actually, a note about this. Reika shared the krill model, and it seems they have some kind of eyes that look straight up, which could be why they see us when we’re above them
the crab was visibly not pleased and even hit me
krill googly eyes
n o t t h a t r e s
but when I am near the strong light of the lady (Lamed/scholar) statue he tries to charge me in anger
/ off topic can someone dm me the pic with googly eyes krill???
ONLY to stop when he gets too close to the strong light!!
Hmmm maybe he is one of Deathly Hollows Ghost?
...SO: what if the Krills/crabs can substain just a certain type of light?
We are using latern not Expecto Patronum
and dislike other types
Hmm maybe
And that sort of remind me of peaceful crabs in Sanctuary
Maybe light have some other types or stage of power
actually, a note about this. Reika shared the krill model, and it seems they have some kind of eyes that look straight up, which could be why they see us when we’re above them
is this the krill model? from reika
a different one, a front view
And?
lemme grab
Hmmm tasty
and dislike other types
oh then maybe it depends on where the crabs were
GRILL EM
Raised for different type of light?
ye boop something like that
ignore thé googly eyes
look at the snout, looks like 4 other eyes, or at least holes for the Big Eye to see above as well
I
HHAHAHAHAH
Please delete it
i love the eyes shgf
Huaaaaaaa
This is blursed
I'm suffering
is googly krill stronger that my Lantern/Light-Krill/Crab observation?
😅
ignore thé googly eyes
look at the snout, looks like 4 other eyes, or at least holes for the Big Eye to see above as well
gen chat chaos flashbacks sorry hsjsj
i see a mound kinda thing on the krill's head too, is that where the big eye is?
why would nose be on the eye 
/well, technically, in coding you dont need litteral eyes
Just like whale their nose on their head
/just need to tell the thing where to notice the player\
Or their body
mayne sensors? like how snakes have heat sensors but these have light sensors?
Sensorssss
upper lip
sn
snake ?
the heat pits
We can't go near them they can smell you even from upper place
lemme find the proper anatomical name
perfect
Whattty
/ koma no
koma yes
Conclusion: Krills are floating danger noodles that have learned to be contortionists.
I keep on missing absolute chaos
let’s
let’s try to keep to lore, shall we ?
Sure
Pit organ, but just typing heat pits is good enough
We were talking about the floating danger noodles.
/wwould that make krills organic
Floaty danger noodles
/they can sense things like snakes
considering the look of the model, it looks organic

So maybe that's why sanke can know we are behind them????? Is it true??? I don't have exp about facing snake I'm just facing krills
OOH, I almost forgot,
In Eden corridor I noticed with the lantern that there are some kind of doorshaped decorations (just the 3 I posted in picture 2 and 3)
how many shrimps do you have to eat
guys
please
So maybe that's why sanke can know we are behind them????? Is it true??? I don't have exp about facing snake I'm just facing krills
don wanna talk about that cuz its not gonna be lore related anymore but irl related.. sry
Okayy
sorry-
Pink. Pink krill
;;
OOH, I almost forgot,
In Eden corridor I noticed with the lantern that there are some kind of doorshaped decorations (just the 3 I posted in picture 2 and 3)
i saw those too, they remind me of the big shrines in beta stormlock
don wanna talk about that cuz its not gonna be lore related anymore but irl related.. sry
@tender dune
I mean it same with krills right?
i saw that too teb
They can sense us from back like snake?so maybe tgc make the krills have some sense like snake?
It is kind of weird krill only have ONE eye, when you think about it
there’s like 5 or 6 of these in pnr tunnel i believe
How do you even read in this😔
@cosmic ember hmmm weird how can your discorb be like that.....
use the app, Markii
Its on my browser
Ouh
now please, can we stay on lore
/marki turn off the list of people
there’s like 5 or 6 of these in stormlock i believe
/ohhhh king?
Here? Uh so when i click the link it will just redirect me to discord but in browser discord
there’s like 5 or 6 of these in stormlock i believe
@lethal stump so this is it...... For who like the lore of sky, they left it for them...
light mantas have a diamond on their foreheads too I believe?
markii this is not technical support, please go somewhere else to get your discord sorted out
surely the production of the diamonds used light from the creatures, turning them dark
into krill
Hmm every creature in this game began from power diamond????????
We have diamond on head
im pretty sure the power diamond isn’t organic, like technology
i don’t think it’s the king
in pre-launch beta stormlock, there was massive versions of the light shrines with two regular sized ones beside them, it’s the same set up just the big shrine is missing
does anyone have a pic of the kings statues?
They can sense us from back like snake?so maybe tgc make the krills have some sense like snake?
its not that they can sense from the back its mainly that it enables snakes to 'see' warmth which makes them be able to catch prey. so what i was saying is that krills might have a similar sensor except they sense 'light'. if u want more info about snake stuff google can give a better explaination
sry for any typos i feel tired...
maybe krill just want their light back :(
they do stop their charge attack when u lose a wl
its not that they can sense from the back its mainly that it enables snakes to 'see' warmth which makes them be able to catch prey. so what i was saying is that krills might have a similar sensor except they sense 'light'. if u want more info about snake stuff google can give a better explaination
@tender dune oufff I'm sorry for depend on this channel too much for basic infos
dw its probs not basic info im just into animals 
does anyone know what specifically the poop is
Not yet
no
I feel like the sanctuary isle was a safe haven for creatures of light and protected them from being used to make diamonds, hence the name sanctuary
hint summary of the poop**
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/757205889194131508
Hmm mm it's almost true> I feel like the sanctuary isle was a safe haven for creatures of light and protected them from being usedv to make diamonds, hence the name sanctuary
@hushed steeple
does anyone have a pic of the kings statues?
@hushed steeple
and with this, i have school, so peace

bbye
skfjghddj it's probably in wasteland
@shadow kindle at first yes... But then after you read the multiple clues... Maybe not
ill leave too i feel.. 
rest well ginko 
/ah, finally,some peace and quiete
back to normal lore chat 
/it was august 28th, 8:25 Am (gmt+7,timezones...) the announcement was made, and lore chat was on fire....
/it was a horrible sight. For the first time in history did lore chat ever had a 5 minute slowmode. And several people are typing? That was even rarer...
/anyways....
/why did vault choose to make cosmic mantas
Owwww
/but not cosmic butterflys
could the poop be in an earlier area of eden -- there is some wax there
Butterfly dont fly in nighttime
i mean i've never felt compelled to get wax from eden but i'm sure some people do
oh yeah i do wonder why the vault made cosmic mantas and that cosmic chonker manta
since there is a manta whisperer in valley (citadel), i think that is why they chose to make cosmic mantas on the 4th level
/it was august 28th, 8:25 Am (gmt+7,timezones...) the announcement was made, and lore chat was on fire....
/it was a horrible sight. For the first time in history did lore chat ever had a 5 minute slowmode. And several people are typing? That was even rarer...
@gilded fossil
The 'Prophecy' word make the words become epic... That's why
since the vault is sort of like a way to teach skids the history of sky kingdom, i guess that somehow ties in with the reasons for how each level is represented to show the respective realm
also if you listen to the music in the levels of vault there are repeats of the themes of the different realms (very obvious with the valley level)
also the word cosmic chonker is being added to my personal dictionary
you are welcome 😌
maybe, mantas light were extracted to forge diamonds, left over body with no protection from darkness turns into krill and spirit turns into ghost manta???
oh also you brought up the leitmotifs!! there are indeed some recurring ones from the realms in the levels
is the eden elder the king? or are they seperate characters
Leitmotifs?
is the eden elder the king? or are they seperate characters
@hushed steeple I think its same
Coz Eden is the castle for King right?
/but not cosmic butterflys
butterflies are used to make power diamonds, right? vault grandma is probably still sad about the vault getting destroyed, and whatever happened there was probs caused by the big diamond, so she despises butterflies nowjust a random thought i had lmao
also wth is the megabird
making a leitmotif doc heh
also, some assume eden elder to be the king, though we never get super explicit confirmation on it, but yeah i think the eden elder is the king
megabird is explained in the lore moff doc let me get it
tytyty
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
[Credits to Bricko]
also, leitmotifs are like recurring melodies/musical themes. sky music has a bunch
i've dumped my theories with them here before i think
Ouhhh I love leitmotives thennn
Every place almost have same melodies as Megan song
I just called that Eden song by Aurora as Megan song or lulaby
Upwards Dance (i think 5-6 vault) has a few leitmotifs scattered around there (it's also one of the best songs heehhah)
Even in Sanc
wait there’s a prince? would that just be another ancient person given the rank, or did the king reproduce?
yeah upwards dance has quite a few
it also has the main leitmotif of sky i think
I even know how to play it now with sky instruments....the Upward Dance is my favourite.... But then the Prophecy beat it....(only for those really crazy for Megan song)
in different parts of development the king and prince were either different entities or the same being
the concept art of the prince looks similar to the new gen children of light
prince could be possible reincarnation of king?
same character different ages?
king is canon, prince is kinda canon but it's up to you how you see them in the lore
that is a possibility
i'm still waiting for the end credits music we have currently to come out, i love the piano part so much
I like the two shields theory of a civil war
against the production of diamonds
and those for it
i'm still waiting for the end credits music we have currently to come out, i love the piano part so much
@solar relic ouffff I love that one too but maybe it gonna be major spoiler for newbies....
i'm still waiting for the end credits music we have currently to come out, i love the piano part so much
@solar relic end credits music makes me bawl it's so good
krills being weaponised and then roaming the wasteland after years and years kind of makes sense
Dark stones are now darkness plants right?
Oooh the one where there's a singer?
@hushed steeple yeshhh after the end of her song
Thanks i was just a little bit confused about the vault lore
yeah i like the part after aurora sings
anyway let's go back to lore hahsb
Leitmotifs maybe cant help so much then....
oh yeah that part of the end credits shares a leitmotif with waltzing in the rain
my thought is that the peaceful crabs are there for a reason -- they were harmed in some way, causing them to attack sky children -- i.e. the ones in the rest of the realms and the ones in the cave in sanctuary hide there as they are hostile
wait? so dark stones are made from the dar plants?
oh yeah that part of the end credits shares a leitmotif with waltzing in the rain
@solar relic ill try to find the same note there then....
i'm learning how to play waltzing in the rain on my piano
So dark stones became dark plants and the supposedly dark stones became the red crystals now in eden?
ohhh nvm
Basically darkplantas are made from darkstones
leitmotifs can help
if i can finish getting all the leitmotifs for the elder themes i might be able to craft a theory on their allegiance to which side of the war (if there ever was one)
yes please
This was from the documents
The dark stones become more corrupted and turn red. The stones gain the ability to suck light out of things.
So dark stones became dark plants and the supposedly dark stones became the red crystals now in eden?
@cosmic ember hmmm maybe
im in mood for lore now since i just read a very wholesome sky comic

So does this mean the darkstones became the red seizuring crystals in eden
Wooo what comic is that
its in japanese, but basicalky about elders doing vacation to sanct island
The one with the non canon
its so cute aaaa
Its called the lore vault i think
So does this mean the darkstones became the red seizuring crystals in eden
@cosmic ember maybe..... Because it will swallow all of your light in one touch.... Just like fully corrupted stone
red seizuring crystal-
Yes-
well dark plants could have been used in the production of power diamonds, or they could be the product of mining materials for power diamonds 
They shake when u get near
its in japanese, but basicalky about elders doing vacation to sanct island
Oh my god that is so cute I-
Hello skybean
well id idnt ahve time to observe them since im always running from them-
Mabye the storm produces spores and it was spread throughout the kingdom
Wait that picture of that three elders in sanc? 
about this mural
what do you think that big dude doing?
@median stone nah, its a fan comic-
consume appol
Swallow sushikrill
Why is elder grandpa always an outcast
touching the o r b
well if the eye of eden is a giant fractured darkstone, could the dark plants be a biproduct of fractured smaller stones? growing out of the cracks?
Zamn so u sayin that people in the kingdom abused power and light to only reveal that the light itself will destroy everythin😔
oh wait wait I thought darkstone was the diamond
serious answer: i think that is the king/eden elder trying to harness the power of the eden diamond/gigantic power diamond
but we all know it farted anyway
Eating? The orb?
I feel like it depicts them wanting to consume the light to be more powerful? I honestly originally thought it was them in agony
Our old version
anyway soemone notice that there is actually a solar eclipse happening in eden
that, and the fact that eden depicted as a big dude eating an orb remind me of myth of Rahu, the sun eater
I remember hearing my friend say that the prince was a megalomaniac.
Owooo gonna search it
According to legend, during the Samudra manthan, the asura Rahu drank some of the amrita (divine nectar). The sun and moon realized it and alerted Mohini (the female avatar of Vishnu). Mohini cut off the asura's head before the nectar could pass his throat. The head, however, remained immortal due to the effect of amrita and became Rahu.
It is believed that this immortal head from time to time swallows the sun, causing eclipses. Then, the sun passes through the opening at the neck, ending the eclipse. The body also turned into Ketu due to a boon, and it in turn swallows the moon on timely basis to cause a lunar eclipse.
What do you guys think about the pipes? Do you think they're connected to the diamond to supply infinite light?😳
Throughout the kingdom
How could it be a supply to the diamond, it's a wasteland as in..pollution.
According to legend, during the Samudra manthan, the asura Rahu drank some of the amrita (divine nectar). The sun and moon realized it and alerted Mohini (the female avatar of Vishnu). Mohini cut off the asura's head before the nectar could pass his throat. The head, however, remained immortal due to the effect of amrita and became Rahu.
It is believed that this immortal head from time to time swallows the sun, causing eclipses. Then, the sun passes through the opening at the neck, ending the eclipse. The body also turned into Ketu due to a boon, and it in turn swallows the moon on timely basis to cause a lunar eclipse.
@bitter shale wow nice myth
I am just wondering..how the pollution/corruption came to be.
It became a wasteland when it got destroyed, i think it is used to look like valley when it was not sunken
Because of the king fault.... I'm sorry again for blami g the king for consuming too much power
the pipes were probably meant to vent out leftover stuff from making the diamonds (the black sludge) which caused pollution
How could it be a supply to the diamond, it's a wasteland as in..pollution.
No in reversed, the diamond is the one to SUPPLY the light throughout the kingdom
the diamond was def like some super battery of some sort
lots of myth depict solar eclipse as the sun being eaten by something
the pipes were probably meant to vent out leftover stuff from making the diamonds (the black sludge) which caused pollution
If thats the case, maybe thats why the wasteland became wasteland, and with that grose water formed the krilss
No in reversed, the diamond is the one to SUPPLY the light throughout the kingdom
Oh I see, sorry about that. I misinterpreted.
If crabs wastn born evil, maybe krabs originally lived in wasteland, they hot currupted
maybe the forgotten ark was an attempt to replenish and revive the wasteland via the coloured lights, but got destroyed by storms/krill
Krabs are stupid enough to not be affected and get their light absorbed so i think they just like eeeh I'mma just go dark
Sorry my brain now already rotten for lore....

evacuation?
maybe the forgotten ark was an attempt to replenish and revive the wasteland via the coloured lights, but got destroyed by storms/krill
That actually makes a bit of sense, we were left to continue what they started.
maybe the forgotten ark was an attempt to replenish and revive the wasteland via the coloured lights, but got destroyed by storms/krill
@hushed steeple
Yeah and that only area, with that remaining power from the lights, thats the only area we can purify cause the lights were lowkey weak?
Markii in the crab mural, they have a reason to get angry
What if it was reversed!? They used to eat darkness? Not light?
Oh my....
okay, this line got me thinkin
"but the darkness blind, and soon the stars fell"
what if the stars fell on purpose?the darkness become too strong, so the stars fell to find a way to bring back the balance?
maybe they developing the diamonds to get strong source of light?
anotehr hot take
I’m still confused about that secret underground place in the hidden forest
with the giant creature

Oh you mean the lonely whale?
whale
THATS WHAT ITS CALLED
oh my a shepherd!


is that like it’s home?
hideaway or smth
and what was it doing at the wasteland
looks like its trying to reach orbit like you
it does end up in orbit eventually
oh Yeahhh
Maybe its like a untouched time capsule or something
certainly looks old 
Yeah and its blocked
so what about that other area? Was it for a season I missed or just a lil tid bit
The only way to get in is to stomp the stone¿
okay so tehre is something about home that bugging me out
we know that we all spawned on a stone plate at home right? and we can recharge our lights on taht plate
but lately i have noticed that we can only recharge our light on one side of the plate
we cant recharge our light on other side of plate. only one side can and its near the statue where we get daily seasonal candle or heart
dunno why i just want to point this one

Oh the place where you get heart, that statue also apears in eye of eden correct?
yep
That means something
THATS WHAT ITS CALLED
I call it a whale, it reminds me of the 52 hertz whale in a way because I think it is lonely. I remember seeing some other whales, but I think its probably elder mantas.
is there a reason everything heads towards orbit? do they wanna dip from the world or
thats where everything come from right?
we came from the stars, and we soon will back to it
stuff like that
yea to start the circle of reborn too
over and over and over
endless reincarnation
i think the whale goes up with us to orbit because it is also like an elder
idk how that makes sense but yeah
Hmm yall noticed that the birds are always in our sight? Its like their journey and goal in life is to literally be born, go to the world jn tl the orbit, and loop again? Like a circle of life?
the whale looks like a flying green eggplant ngl
the realms do represent stages of life
I was able to get close to the big whale once, it was the best time I had. I love that whale and want to become it's friend.
thats the point of sky tbh, endless reincarnation
Birds may be megabirds eyes
the birds in a loop reminds me of that one concept art
Yeah in every area they'are there
the mural you see before the office
i do think the whale is the last of its kind lol. we see the same whale everytime
Maybe the birds are like blood flow of megan
I CANT SEE PICTURES AGAIN AA
The blood of megan that keeps on flowing forever
thats the point of sky tbh, endless reincarnation
The thought is a bit depressing, but for some reason it is a bit comforting to know that one has been able to be a part of help saving the children of light in eden.
poor whale 
what was the isle elders role? guiding boats to where
Maybe we get reincarnated because were saving every parallel universe sky has, after one eden run, we go on to another megan universe
cause they are a part of constellation? tehrefore they already become stars and will come back as part of megan
Actually-
i see megan as milky way, a galaxy made of billion of stars
Wait...megan?
megan = megabird
Ah
in concepts/pre-global(?) yes the isle elder was more of a ferryman, they'd send skids off in a boat to prairie i believe
rn isle elder isn't seen to guide boats but they still give ferryman vibes
/lore moff???
are the elders the constellation themselves or a star in the constellation?
LORE MOFF

@hushed steeple i think the constellation themselves
/arre you new??
Why did they make eden? Incase something happens, they can quickly return to the "home" right?
also i had a really random thought, yknow how we see whole new different creatures in sanctuary after we do the bell quests? im probably really late on this, but maybe the reason why we dont see them outside of the area is because, well, that area is literally their sanctuary; their refuge; their safe space. these light creatures have been hidden for so long, hiding away from danger and destruction, finally able to fly
I have coexisted silently, I have never really bothered to chat here due to anxiety, until the lore chat caught my attention and I couldn't help but say something.
/ ah very well have you seen the moff doc?
ginsy i like that theory! not only that island is called as sanctuary for us and ancestors, but they also can be for the light creatures!
the lasts of their kind fled to sanctuary and stayed there until they know theyre safe from harm
yeah!
/ would that make the bells a summoning device tho
do you think sky kids have bones or nah (they prob do unless candle body hard like bone so they can keep shape)
/ ah very well have you seen the moff doc?
I have it on my tabs, currently multitasking.
i havnt seen moff doc lmao
also i had a really random thought, yknow how we see whole new different creatures in sanctuary after we do the bell quests? im probably really late on this, but maybe the reason why we dont see them outside of the area is because, well, that area is literally their sanctuary; their refuge; their safe space. these light creatures have been hidden for so long, hiding away from danger and destruction, finally able to fly
If it is their safe spot, why is there no pure crabs there? It aint possible that all crabs that used to be good became all bad like
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like if you ring a cowbell cows would come HAHA
also is that mean baymax and other sanct spirits are the ones who helping them to stay safe in sanct island? thats quiet cute ngl
/ we're made of gatorade
W8 ur username is Sahlo
Yes.
There are pure crabs tho? On the islands?
do you think sky kids have bones or nah (they prob do unless candle body hard like bone so they can keep shape)
i doubt it, i think they're hollow
vessels meant to simply store light, which is like their energy source/source of life
likely, the crabs are aggresive since its their way to protect themselves?
so from my understanding, isle elder guides boats to prairie, prairie stores light creatures in pots as a predated way of powering civilisation, but were hard to transport, thus the creation of power diamonds which were made at the expense of light creatures, some people didn’t like that some people did, BAM civil war (golden wasteland) eye of eden could’ve been a project for a super mega power diamond that could provide power to civilisation endlessly (because regular power diamonds need recharging) but something went wrong and kaboom death
maybe the crabs were light creatures who didnt get to hide in time and darkness reached them. maybe they were injured light creatures who couldn’t keep up with their peers, crashed onto the lands and got corrupted. some stayed outside, crabs found refuge in the caves
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Thank you!
sancturary crabs are nice but i burn them >:))
I never saw any light crabs where are they at :(
i heard the crabs on the little islands are actually friendly
I just saw the ones in the cave that kept pushing me off the cliffs 😭
i believe so
welcome to lore channel Sahlo! i hope you enjoy your stay here!

OH Really?
yeah there's 2 nice krebs on the smol islands, i do not condone any sort of violence towards them
the rest of the krebs can get grilled though 
If in that case, ginsy was probably right, you can see that the sanc is pretty isolated from all of the areas, it even said to be an escape to the daily civi
All is well, I hope I am not much of a bother. I tend to suddenly coming out of the blue every so often.
Its pretty far and sorrounded by water
i mean if you think about it crabs arent as dumb as we think they are. they hide in the sands of wasteland, so that’s a form of refuge, even if its buried in sand, they’re trying to hide or keep safe. they even help other crabs whos knocked over, so theyre not mindless robots lol. there’s sentience
I feel like dark creatures come from the absence of light, the crabs could have lost theirs somehow? maybe being commonly used in production of the power diamonds, light crabs becoming incredibly endangered and dark crabs running around everywhere, dark crabs could’ve found their way to the sanctuary and made a home there?
no no its fine! everyone is accepted here!
so wholesome
crabs dont get enough credit! its why i love them so much
i fell in love with them when i saw them helping each other up
i really like those murals about crabs in ark cave
they help each other up??? 
they are just cute 
no no its fine! everyone is accepted here!
That's honestly a sigh of relief, thank you once again.
crabh
i want a crab bean bag rn
try it out sometime 
ohmystarryelders i have never seen that happen before but that's so cute

so that i can yeet it when i get crebbed
crab mask, everyone? 
our ancestors are crabs
i fell in love with them when i saw them helping each other up
They stick with one another, I love their team work.
Im thinking that this season, sanc, our goal/ mission is to let all those light creatures know that.ITS SAFE WE ARE HERE COME OUT LMAO cause we rang all the bells to let them know, thats why in the cutscene, all of the species rose and flew around, our mission is to take away the anxiety and fear of the creatures
I think crabs have their own world like us
bruh im gonna cook and eat all the crabs in sky
yeah, we’re there to rescue all light creatures, creatures and spirits alike 
anyone care for some
*prophecy theory ? 
no beta content tho, only based on teaser
just little skycrabs going around
sky: crabs of the light when 
breaking stuff
yeah, we’re there to rescue all light creatures, creatures and spirits alike
@spring blaze nah i eat the crabs
I would cry to see the day that we save krills.
D:
flos spill da theory 
I mean we see crabs every realm except isle
I think the statues from the teasers like the spider and tiger means something
I hope we can..it would be phenomenal.
me and my friend yesterday in candle running we trying to escape the crabs but we got yeeted to infinity
every realm is corrupted in a way
i didnt wanna clog this channel so-
what if the sanctuary was invaded, becoming deserted, the creatures fled and the people living there broke the bells so the creatures wouldn’t come back in fear they’d be captured 🥺
isle has the least but there’s still darkness
even prairie got corrupted
every realm is corrupted in a way
@spring blaze Isle is pretty pure
bailey thats a good angst material there-
Everything is corrupted
under the temple

And lifeless, M
@hushed steeple yep pure
and BIRBS
im curious on how the heck the bells managed to be EVERYWHERE on the map
im living for more a n g s t
im living for more a n g s t
@bitter shale here comes the angst blade
They got yeeted
like one on the very top of the map???
I like how the queen/king mantas chucked us to the hidden island in the clouds.
the caretaker did know where they were
maybe boop thats actually plausible
returning years later when it was safe to bring the creatures back 😭😭
MAYBE SOMEONE WE DON'T KNOW WHO purposely hid them all to make us feel heroic lol
easter bells? 
Yes!
krilltjn's pfp tho-
OH MY GODS-
after the creatures fled, the caretaker constructed bells to help the animals know that its safe to go out. but something happened, like a security thing or something, and the bells had to be destroyed and spread everywhere so the creatures wouldnt be hurt?
I didnt even notice the pfp-
Just asking . You guys have any theory about the season of Prophecy? Like it's about the creation of the worlds?
bruh the weazel mask go 
krilltjn's pfp tho-
ah yes
those who were capable in getting the bells back, then the caretaker knows that the creatures are truly safe
@solid magnet https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y01HbfEh5xlxRr7vSCtZfQtJd8VeU-thxzhcYYK3or4/edit?usp=drivesdk
read my theory here-
i want that version of the mask now
cue the kazoo 'Hot Dog' mickey mouse theme
Thanks @bitter shale
maybe the caretaker was aware of the prophecy.... assuming its about us
no problem mate 
Wait, look, when we rang all those bells, all of the creatures came out, what if they really do hid the bells so no one from the evil side take advantage of it? IF SOME EVIL GUY RANG IT AND ALL THE CREATURES GOT OUT THEY BE DEAD
honestly im just gonna speed run the comsetics in the prophecy and then do theory's 
they’d definitely be dead lol
Omahjafjjaieh-
remind me of that one guy who making theory based on beta content here and then Reika praises them with "thats a good one"
so do they like extract the light from creatures in order to make the power diamonds liek how exactly do they forge those things
and we dont see those light creatures try to go to orbit, they circle around sanctuary. orbit isn’t their home anymore, sanctuary is. besides, its safe now right? they can live happy lives
Sweats in no money to buy pass
if i recall it right, forest elder temple have that manta juicer thing
what trials ? @lean gyro were they in the teasers?
I-
or is this a beta thing 
Beta beta
USYNSSJ that's beta stuff
when is season of prophecy releasing?
Oooo manta smoothie
My youtube recoomended spoiled things for me
same
13 days
I’m not YouTubing no spoilers 4 me
Maybe they fed the diamond with mixed mantaxwhalexlight creature smoothie and the diamond got diarrhea and the storm began
beta stuff stays in beta channels
Yep
Yes.
Only things I know about the new season, it's gonna be awsome lol
It is, it's really going to be worthwhile.
the children of light in eden are turned into stone, snuffing light could turn it into power diamonds?
manta juicer
theres one person who keeps showing up in my reccomended and their videos are all beta and it says yhe spoiler in the title, so i blocked notifications from ghat person so i wouldnt get spoiled
I mean some of the kids have blue crystals comin from their backs
OMGGGAHSHSHAHSH i have formed a lore about the ark!!!
i hope thats a guess ein
Ill have to still develop it tho
Umm-
guys >:(
manta juicer-
beta stuff in beta channels only ok!!!!
so they extract the light juice from creatures and compress it into the power diamonds?
Solly
@solid magnet same!
cant wait for the next season!
@hushed steeple thats the theory
WAIT WAIT, WHAT IF the ancient power the game was talking about is that thing? WHEN THE SPINNING THING OPENED, THE MANTAS WERE RELEASED what is that manta juices were to be supplied to eden throug pipes!?😳😳😳
you will be muted, its been pinned in the general chat!! just be careful next time!

Don't talk about Beta stuff outside of Beta channels or you'll get muted for 24 hours.


What if the eye of eden was an attempt of extracting light from Megan and compressing it into a giant power diamond but too much light and the diamond went BOOM
ik yall are excited, but the hype will definitely be the wait when it finally releases, yall can go crazy then

How was the earlier version of eden tho?
october guys mark ur calendars 
extracting megan light???? now this! this might be the purpose of eden diamond!
I swear if spirits just to be contented with blue diamonds, we aint playin this game😔 😔
butterflies in a jar was a much nicer method of providing energy for civilisation smh 🗿
Like fire flies?
october is my birth month eyeyyeyey
:0
spirits were lazy
Oh that's nice
RIDING A FLOATING BOAT HOW FUN IS THAT
I wouldn't say lazy..? Maybe they just are also power hungry?
I wonder how they used the butterflies in pots tho
lamp?
seems liek to make their boats fly?
Maybe to trap them?
omg swarm of butterflies carrying a boat
I think firest has butterflies because the praire elder made too many and they all went to prarie and forest
Lol
WHAT I HAVE RED THE LORE ABOUT THE ARK AND MY IDEA WAS EXACTLY THE SAME WHUTIRIRIEUEJJSJE
omg swarm of butterflies carrying a boat
Poor butterflies!
there is lot of theories about what are skids, my favorites are walking battery and terracotta army 
the forest elder must’ve had some role in shipment or finalising the butterflies in pots, but started making power diamonds instead, leftover stock of butterfly pots could’ve been let loose and the butterflies just chill
little clay figurines baked too much
I wonder..
This is what i said + Bailey's idea
maybe the forgotten ark was an attempt to replenish and revive the wasteland via the coloured lights, but got destroyed by storms/krill
Yeah and that only area, with that remaining power from the lights, thats the only area we can purify cause the lights were lowkey weak?
The one in the lore
ver time, the flying color-light balls became smaller and smaller, leaving behind a comet trace (when a comet does that, part of the Ice and Spacedirt is being melted away because it is going towards the sun ). Then, when they were used, there was only enough left, to make the ship and the area directly around it inhabitable again.
The isle elder seems a bit outcasted..
instead they are making flying pyromaniacs-
instead they are making flying pyromaniacs-
You aren't wrong but-

The isle elder definitely looked the oldest, maybe they didn’t like where society was going so they just sat on the beach and played with the birds idk
wholesome grandpa
What if he played a role with the prince/king?
i think you meant *habitable again haha
Maybe that is why he is outcasted?
Guys imagine if all of that coloured light were big enough, WE CAN SEE A BEAUTIFUL RUINS OF WASTELAND AND EDEN😔 😔
Guys imagine if all of that coloured light were big enough, WE CAN SEE A BEAUTIFUL RUINS OF WASTELAND AND EDEN😔 😔
That'd be amazing.
old man yells at boats
okay, do you guys remember soemtimes we heard bell ringing in home right?
well here is an interesting thing, the bells are only ring from eden and isle gate. there is no bells in other gates, only isle and eden have it
altho isle didnt have the bell, but the ringing can still be heard from it
so you think there's a hidden bell in isle?
my question is why do I hear faint skids voices in the city of valley, usually either normal vocal, whale, or bird.
old man says get off my beach and go do ur capitalism elsewhere
What if Isle grampa is related to Eden? When eden rings, so is Isle. What if Isle is the former King? That's why the elders ignore him, because of his past actions?
What if the Eden elder was supposed to be the prince? After the King was dethroned? Maybe after the Eden exploded, the prince, now crowned as the new King, tried his best to restore the Kingdom again by creating skids, but failed (those skids in eden that crumbles when u get near is probably the first ver. of skids he thinks would be able to restore Sky).
But he didn't give up. He tried again. But this time, he had to sacrifice himself? And turn into fragments of light as a way to make us stronger?
These are all the question I have in my brain. Now it's melting...
credit to Ramunemarble#6494
makes sense as eden is death and isle is birth
What is the mistery of the day my mates??
J:KSLJAKL
In the lore, it was said that there's a war and the elder from the wasteland was between them both sides WHAT IF THE ELDER VALLEY WAS THE ONE PROTECTING BOTH? HE'S THE ONE STOPPING THE BOTH FORCES TO STOP FIGHTING, the barricades was there for people and not for krills
KSNSISBSNS
Im sorry, but I am saving that.
what if the valley races were supposed to be done by boats
skidoosh
Sky + kids = Skids
what if the valley races were supposed to be done by boats
Boats go brrrr
KDJSKJS LMAO
i'm going on a poop hunt 💩
i have been noticing that valely elders are perhaps once are one body cleaved into two
how so? look at their statue here. they need to lean at each other to form a diamond hole
also why does poop have a significance
I have no idea, but I scrolled and heard it was in GW in Ark? Don't take my word for it.
one soul in two bodies
at the start of their cutscene they do stand together to make one person :000
since the very beginning, even in the early dev stages, valley elders were always twins
What about the sheilds and spears scattered all around the last area of gw? I think those are the elders bffs guarding the place, when the other side attacked they just got yeeted off
theyre two halves of a whole
not really.
their original concept are one person, and its a priestess
hence why they only got one name, Samekh
What about the sheilds and spears scattered all around the last area of gw? I think those are the elders bffs guarding the place, when the other side attacked they just got yeeted off
@cosmic ember there’s theories of a civil war, some shields have suns and others have diamonds, the theories like, some people saw the pollution and wanted to stop production of the diamonds and others wanted to keep production of the diamonds so they fought


