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does anyone have the gdoc with like, the entire lore in it? like the ones you guys have theorised + the canon lores
pins 
omg this is way too flashy
in the pins! the theory doc and the canon lore doc are two different docs
my eyes hurt
You know, I actually thought their paddles looked a lot like cricket bats...
ooh okay! can you specify which is which?
there we go
I found this (credit to the person who made the place brighter)
and I was thinking of Theres any hidden things wrote in there
Yeah
where.....
So thereโs hidden things?
how....
Always been there
wow
its in office
mhm
the theory doc is sent by butter and the canon lore doc is sent by hage in the pins, they should be next to each other hann
(also hello! i usually see you in gen chat
)
its written in bold that its canon doc
this is the canon doc (but do know that what comes under the canon doc is not all said by the dev, the 2nd page is like notes from the translator)
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/654204348519153665
I need to go back to office again so i could see them properly
this is the most zoomed in
those things in the office can also be seen in the pins
is there anything wrote in there?
its old concept
Text is too smol
I can read the things on top

not the small things
its in the pins
Yeah
Lore moff-
Iโm really sorry
nah its ok keep them
thank you
I haven't check the concept art yet
my phone is being weird,will check it on laptop tomorrow
Hello new Lore Moff!
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By Bricky
May be helpful-

we dont own this lore chat, its lore related so dw about it
no need to apologize haha
wait i wanna know which link have the office poster...
tom zhao probs
Using a vpn is not recommended or supported by TGC. Please don't recommend, discuss, or seek help with VPNs in this server

i knwo la


it ain't on tom zhao's website ๐ but i know it's around somewhere

aye frens back to lore thanks
I come from taiwan
lets make a few details map of the kingdom of sky as a whole
#screenshots-and-videos please
just spoiler tag it
lets make a few details map of the kingdom of sky as a whole
from dawn to eden
eden will be the hardest
go to fandom
That would help a lot of players 

hage (lore vet) has a map on graveyard
yummy map
Y'all... I noticed this- in GW (I went there just now...) Who vs who was the war... The sun symbol shield and the diamond shield. .... .
the two shield theory all over again
ooo
#screenshots-and-videos @marble lily
#eden-spoilers or #screenshots-and-videos please
pls yun
lore chat is for discussing the lore of the game
#lore-discussion-spoilers message this is hage's battlefield map
Bruh i never noticed that shield before what am I doing lol
prophecy is deep
I need to check all the small details istg ๐
just a note for the new lore moffs of things not allowed here
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Guys is it just me or the wardrobe looks like sky kids with horn ๐ฏ maybe at some point sky kids got horns
Yes profecy is deep
Guys is it just me or the wardrobe looks like sky kids with horn ๐ฏ maybe at some point sky kids got horns
@dreamy scaffold omg yes
yesyes
i think they havent online yet 
Anyone saw grill bates?
thats a nice map
where...
havent seen grill in a while 
yeah
no sorry i haven't seen them here in a while sadly
the skids with horns can also be seen in tom zhao's art concepts
well more like antennas
ok time to look through 11 hours of light awaits to see if aviary cabinet skid had horns on it 
i always thought these are just from those animal masks - but interesting ;)
antennas tho 
ah the live cabinet model seems to have been carried over from pre-global
from shira's beta album, on the right you can see them
plot twist: canonically a skid has those two tiny buns as hair. moth hair who?
whoa
our skids in our version have small human-like ears 
not sure but i think same with the ancestors and elders?
ill confirm again later (for the elders)
oh boy what if skids really did use to have horns
~~all the fan artists be quaking
including me~~
horns?
oh nvm
i saw it
i thought horns reffered to musical instru-
also i just noticed this
are the spirit appeared on their grave
like, the spirits appeared whenever we approach those tombstones at the start of each realm
yes they always have been
we accidentally step on their grave when we buy items then 
like... are those their original tombstones? like, are they buried tehre?
unsure
i mean... that will be quite morbid
since they seems to be wandered far from their grave...
maybe they stay in the place where they originally dead? and then their bodies buried in other place
could be graves or could be just marking gravestones (or game mechanics for keeping the spirits at the begining of each realm for easy access)
maybe that's why they are spirits? bc their bodies were never properly buried? so when we unlock wing buffs we are able to properly send them off back to orbit
does mantas has a grave
e,kskzkz
maybe that's why they are spirits? bc their bodies were never properly buried? so when we unlock wing buffs we are able to properly send them off back to orbit
oho, thats might work!
what with these gravestones
cause it has โspiritโ mantas
then you'll find the vault mural cutscene interesting
ikr? only one and its teh saluting guy

then you'll find the vault mural cutscene interesting
which one-
after we meet lamed?
yes
dont wanna say my theory about it, i like to hear fresh theories first 
I found an egg in hidden forest, its color blue, is that a manta's egg?
@mellow pelican I saw the egg before, itโs on a tree right?
its a literal easter egg 
its an easter egg-
ohhh hahahhhha

oooo
Easter egg?
imagine if it pops


I've seen it many times
reika says when she sits on them it hatches sky kids 
Ppl told me it's manta eggs-
What its not manta eggs-
emote*
I thought it's manta egg too
although the eggs aren't lore related they do give some very interesting theories and fanart 
:))
Manta don't lay eggs-
yes
Whoa-
hhaaha maybe that's from big white fish
all theories are welcome
can't wait to hear it
well
same

in vaultโs cutscene

after the vault of knowledge showing all the elders

she showed something on top
looks like eden
with an elder
so is there an elder?
thatโs my theory

/hi guys so crowded today :D
mhm
my bet is thats the king
it really looks like it
yes there is an eden elder! but the elder is not around to be saved anymore.
many however believe that the eden elder is the king, and the king is in-game but not in the way that you might think he might appear. 

from what we know, that last cutscene of vault elder shows what we call the King. some say he's the eden elder. What we know from the eden elder is that he's not around to be saved anymore what res said sry im a slow typer
ye the special item is umbrella for rocks
no is ok ginko today is a rare occasion i can type fast
other times i am ๐
Cries in wanting light seekers ultimate gift noises
its so crowdy today...
i have exam tommorow but i cant focus 
I
You can do it flos
my friend has a theory that sky is actually just a big dream.... with the elders being our skykids' real life family members
that theory is cute though
sky,, but you're in a coma NOOO THAT'S SAD
Either way the lore make me cry
"mom i had a dream that you became an elder!! and dad too!! oh and, and, dad's failed ebi furai that got burned,,, turned into scary monsters"
cry from headache or feels?
NOOO DEEMO IS TOO SAD

BOTH
/oh no that's very sad
and the constellation is the brain nerves that need to be completed
i'm in emo hours right now
cathy your friend is wholesome
yeah she is ๐ญ๐
Not sure how good of a theory this is... But what if the image shows the prince (not having had light of his own either at all before, or in a very long time) consuming light to try to become like the others?
Cathy that can be very sad so I am keeping my hands off it
NOW THATS
OKAY OKAY THATS A GOOD ONE
hippity hoppity cronches light
so the prince might have wanted to be,, a normal skid?
your light is now MY PROPERTY
So many sad theories-
what is the mural depict eden elder tryna to get the light outta them? like they didnt wnat to be star, they are trying to be normal earth dweller?
Cathy that can be very sad so I am keeping my hands off it
@short owl yeah it is ๐ thinking abt it makes me wanna cry
sky x deemo? doubel feels
what is the mural depict eden elder tryna to get the light outta them? like they didnt wnat to be star, they are trying to be normal earth dweller?
many maaany theories about it flos
ginko tell me your secret-
Only without the prince having light, no one remained to do the prince's job, which was actually essential for society to function.

ok but
twinkle twinkle little star
how i wonder what you are
stars are ELDERS

Maybe the prince don't wanna be the light
maybe i dont wanna be the light guy anymore
is that why darkness came?
(from the intro video)
BIG BRAIN

He doesn't want to be responsible for being the light because it's too much for him
oh maybe it went like this
the star is the prince. but then he grow fond of earth life so he tryna to be one by taking out his light forcefully. but thats when he got corrupted since without light stars are weak. thats when he become the king
so many players will tap him
/ maybe he doesnt want to be trapped in the mecha
sky is a mecha anime
smh shinji prince
so like when pale king wants to b among common bugs
odading
Maybe he faked himself? He be the king but when he wants to wander off the realms, he be rhe prince?
I need an animated anime series about sky now

yeyeye
yall i am getting very sad by these theories tonight for some reason
i think that means i should sneep,
nice theory flos change of pace from the usual ones
"If only they had listened" is a statement that was made without understanding that it wasn't the prince who needed to listen. The prince needed someone to listen to him and mind his needs. Unfortunately, the ones who did lacked knowledge needed to do so safely, leading to disaster.
oh no res, go sneep!
/ sneep snorp!
snep
nooo poor prince didn't have anyone to listen to him im AAA
@thorn spade odading iron man
i see you are person of culture as well

Maybe the spirits doesn't listen to him because he is just a child
hopefully you'll feel better tomorrow 
he sounds pretty damn precocious
i don't know why i am getting so sad at these aahshsn okay i will go sneep now ๐ happy theorising yall!!
@solar relic Cya! ๐
Maybe the spirits doesn't listen to him because he is just a child
/oh yea that's why he needed the mecha, people look down on him
lmaoo
he sounds pretty precocious as a child
Iโm
i see a crab enthusiast
no to clarify i dont like crabs i just am like a crab
i see a lore i squeak and bump
Okay good morning WHAT did I miss
sorreh
Wow morning
It's literally midnight now

so the prince is a child
/oh yea that's why he needed the mecha, people look down on him
Haha king is just prince in disguise
Hi Lilly
Wow morning
It's literally midnight now
/time zones
It's like 10:35 am for me. Anyways. More sad Prince theories?
Y'all need help
flos go study
exams are more important
im studying while talkin here-
It's like 10:35 am for me. Anyways. More sad Prince theories?
Y'all need help
Im 10:35 pm๐
This is like steven universe all over again geez

Lilly, I am a sad prince theory generator
Go study annoying child
Do some studies
jk jk, i wills tudy after this. i need to take some break
Null that is a problem
im studying while talkin here-
thats not studying
How is that a problem?
/ focus!!!
We all go on a Flos hunt
Flos hunt to make them s t u d y
Sad prince theories are fun
Exactly
why ya all hunting me-
i enjoy angst lore tbh
also we're drifting away from lore talk this is becoming #general-sky-discussion
any new lore theories?
Seeing us hugging the prince after we died is sad already but now with these theories i'm getting more sad
most of spirit memories are angst anyway-
I also enjoy angst but honestly I think we need to give the Prince a break
/ i notice that military related spirits have a certain uniform to it
The confident sightseer is not... Until you realize the child likely never grew up
...Null no
you know, the eden mural remind me of one myth about a giant eating the sun whole, creating eclipse
its one of most famous myth from Hinduism
ya all really wnat me to study eh-

i did have a crackpot theory where the king is actually eating the orb instead of praying upward with the orb repenting something (because he wanted to replace megan)
Give us a quick recap of myth pls and then
GO
STUDY
Maybe the child never grew up because literally he was forced to grow up at the time when he supposed to have fun and enjoy life
when your teacher voice lags in the classroom and asks you about what she just said
Bye Flos!

Hmm... Aleph gets a break theories... Most of what I have for happy Aleph is elder nonsense more than lore theory, sorry.
Maybe the child never grew up because literally he was forced to grow up at the time when he supposed to have fun and enjoy life
@kindred oar IM NOT CRYING YOU ARE
alef needs THERAPY
I still can't believe I never realized that about the child.
Honestly, the spirit stories are so sad. They're stuck in time and there's nothing you can do, especially for a CHILD, forced to live out the repeat of their last living moment together.
Just.
N o.
CRYING IN THE CLUB
sky: thick book
sky if everyone goes to therapy: thin book
I'm gonna cry for real 
All elders need therapy
Sky, if the players just drag the elders and other spirits to therapy:
Thin book
Sky if the players get therapy too:
One page
YES AHAHAAHAHAH
/yea i mean look at teth she needs anger management
Tsadi is out there with ptsd
/and the twins, idk
The twins are probably hiding from their problems
We have ALSO not discussed how much, in the actual world,
This could y'know, emotionally damage all types of things for the children as well.
Because dying? Over and over again? And trying to save people but never actually accomplishing it?
MEGAN YOU OWE EVERYONE THERAPY
Totally relatable tbh
According to legend, during theย Samudra manthan, the asura Rahu drank some of the amrita (divine nectar). The sun and moon realized it and alerted Mohini (the female avatar of Vishnu). Mohini cut off the asura's head before the nectar could pass his throat. The head, however, remained immortal due to the effect of amrita and became Rahu.
It is believed that this immortal head from time to time swallows the sun, causing eclipses. Then, the sun passes through the opening at the neck, ending the eclipse. The body also turned into Ketu due to a boon, and it in turn swallows the moon on timely basis to cause a lunar eclipse.
/ flos study for eden's sake
FLOS STUDY
LEAVE
yeah after this laa
FLOS FOCUS
Lore channel shaming
its the tldr of rahu myth
studying lore good
๐๏ธ๐๏ธ
jk jk-
Okay we're getting off track
Flos, please go do your studies. XD
already did lol
/guys why do we have to die again and again
good luck with loring
ok i guess this server is good too
i dont rlly like the general channel but this channel is so chill and nice i love it,,,
flos
Ok, someone tell me this: why don't we have any ppe?
go study again
whats ppe
/what's the point really, who thought the only way to return light is dying
you forgot a letter in every book
Personal protective equipment
home button.........
Megan make us do it for her own liking
we have the over powered home button
/is there like, the skids will mature after dying and bring back better light??
/ did she tested this with a previous batch of skids
Like... Insulated pants would be invaluble in the wasteland. A simple umberella would make all the difference in the forest. In one picture, a kid was able to use a crab as an umbrella
the more they die they just see it as a method to get ac for warp and ts 
Tfw when you make death just a thing people do daily to collect candles
They are more stronger in terms of flying skills and mature in recognizing the realms
the realms just keep getting smaller the longer i play sky
...God you guys keep on making me want to write the journey of the first Skykid but I keep procrastinating it
maybe bc i memorized them sjsdjsjd
But then again... That would bring us to nothing because what is the point if we keep doing the same thing all over again
this is why
updates people, updates
the realms just keep getting smaller the longer i play sky
@thorn spade wait how
I can relate to that cathy
maybe bc i memorized them sjsdjsjd
@thorn spade oh yeah, same
It's just exploring the world become easy
The forest seemed giant, sanctuary too, when I was there for the first time
when i was a moth the realms felt HUGE
like, for example graveyard was so big back then
but now it's just the size of a small football field
๐๏ธ๐๐๏ธ
Have you guys just been lurking this whole time
Graveyard?
Same cathy! Wasteland is such a huge area, especially at the end but then I realize eh not really
Ohh
I m moth :")
/anyways
The trick is you can fly higher than them if you don't want to get krilled haha
MOTH ALERT
Lol
We're a bunch of idiots. That does not excuse us but we are horrible at keeping to what we're supposed to
/or we can move to gen chat if you guys have no topic ideas!
still thinking abt the coma theory..
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once youโve read this, check out pins for more information. 
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Credits to Brick
I have a theory about why the manta was in golden wasteland
Someone said moth alert
Was I not supposed to say that ?
I m sorry
"where am i? where are my cape and stars??"
parents looking confused
That's actually something I've been wondering about, in terms of 'lore'. Once you've finished everything, got the Ultimate gifts and know all the worlds... Like, in terms of the Skychild and not the player, what is there left to do? Lead the new generation? Look for ts? Save the spirits again? It's just kind of sad when you think about it.
/i personally lead the new moths

Maybe that's what seasons will reveal

/we are suppose to hand hold after all
dw we have seasonss
Skykids have a future, but we spend all our time on thw past
Fair point. But still, even for Skychild. Just sad
u can practice playing songs
/like out of all the thing we can hold, in the game we can only hold other skids and crab
Tbh, one day I kind of want to write an AU of a new Sky kingdom. We've finally saved everything!
It's just nice to imagine.
/ speaking of which, why we ignore everything but the crabs
/why cant we pick up rocks or stones
hmm 
/ i have theory that we inherit a natural desire to bring crabs onto dinner tables from our ancestors
Skykid, carrying a crab all the way to their current world's elder:
Elder: ??????
Skychild: ... Crab
Bye Jen!
do you think krills are kinda friendly to us bc they give us a chance instead of krilling us immediately? or giving us time to do glitches?
bruh
HELP
Oh JEEZ
my internet
/uh spam
your spam bring me from dead-
I swear I didnโt mean to
ohhhhh that kinda discord glitch yeah
just delete it
/ i have theory that we inherit a natural desire to bring crabs onto dinner tables from our ancestors
@gilded fossil NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! THEY ARE SMAL FRENS
there
Okay, to answer your question ๐ :
I think it's more of a evolutionary kind of thing. Y'know how cats wiggle their butts aka recalculate before pouncing?
I think that's what krill do. It's a moment to prepare to charge the prey, but it gives said prey a chance to get away if it's quick enough, and start a new hunt.
imagine if krill wiggle like cat before attacking tho
There is no Season of Sanctuary end altar.
...I immediately imagined a worm going crazy but it's just. A krill
Did not help
lmaoo
Are there ever Season end altars?

๐
What's a Season end altar?
Whatโs going on in here
lore is going on
Just vibing, tbh
Lol ok
i really love this design
and yeah im bringin this topic back shhh
I neeeed
also lamed looks like the statue here
why does vault elder remind me of indonesian teachers that are quite old 
Ooooooh
Floaty Elders
@thorn spade lmaooo it is!
yeaaaaa
also does anyone notice thi hole in isle elder
it only have hole in one side
but i cant go through ut cause of wind barrier
Bug or intentional? That is the question 
ah wait i think u can go through there but from the throne area thing
fly infront of the doot
and u'll see a space
wat

Hello
Heyyyyyyyyyyy question I kind of want to ask:
I want to write stories, but stories based on the lore of sky. I know it would technically go in #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations, but they'd really be based around theories you gave guys gave me instead of like, actual Sky stories about befriending krills or something. Plus, you guys probably wouldn't see it.
So would it still go in that channel?
It's still self-promotion so I don't want to be rude and err into channels I shouldn't, but it wouldn't exactly be a normal Sky story, so I'm not entirely sure. ๐
If it gives us lore and theories,I think thats acceptable
How about in both?
Give us what you got Lilly ๐
Okay this is weird but
Me, when I notice that sky universe is ellipsoid or sphere like:

Im still kind of new to this, but I love the lore I get already:)
Thanks guys. :D
I'll probably wait for opinions from Bricky (or Null), because they're kind of the in-charge here, but you are both very supportive. โบ๏ธ
Me asksโkllllled zee fexxxxing question.
** ANSWER ME โผ๏ธ **
No problem
Yes Vermillion?
Heyyyyyyyyyyy question I kind of want to ask:
I want to write stories, but stories based on the lore of sky. I know it would technically go in #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations, but they'd really be based around theories you gave guys gave me instead of like, actual Sky stories about befriending krills or something. Plus, you guys probably wouldn't see it.
So would it still go in that channel?
It's still self-promotion so I don't want to be rude and err into channels I shouldn't, but it wouldn't exactly be a normal Sky story, so I'm not entirely sure. ๐
@thorn trout Put them in one ear.
Out they go the other.
...what?
Yes Vermillion?
@Nakiiru._#6034 Eeeeeeeeez there an end altar to Season of Sanctuary or any other Season?
And what was the thinking behind such game macro-mechanic?
I don't think there is, but can you please explain what is the end altar?
There are end altars to all thezzz Realmssssssssssssss
They will never add another elder
And so?
Seasonal are jus 6 spirits but no new elders will come
Whats are zee Spirrrrrrreeeeeettttttssssssss in zeeeeez Season of Sanctuary
So no more shrines from the elders
Whatsssssssssss eeeeeeessssssss zzzzzzaaayyzzzzzzz?
Its a quest giving spirit
my eyes
Wait u havent played season of sanctuary, have u gotten the spirits?
Spirits in Season of Sanctuary? They are the thankful Shell collector, Grumpy Hiker, and four more that I don't remember
Chill sunbather
Rallying thrill seeker
Timid Bookworm
jelly whisperer
Thats about it(unless I forgot)
so there was a thing last week sometime about a diamond shaped imprint on the back of this guy
and from me looking
we have one as well
ya
Cape glue
....I mustโve missed an update
I donโt remember the child of light being a plain white color like that
Cape rupees off
Rupees๐
Hello
Hey
I don't think this joke fits well anywhere so I will put it here:
Embrace the dark side! We like hugs.
Heyyyyyyyyyyy question I kind of want to ask:
I want to write stories, but stories based on the lore of sky. I know it would technically go in #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations, but they'd really be based around theories you gave guys gave me instead of like, actual Sky stories about befriending krills or something. Plus, you guys probably wouldn't see it.
So would it still go in that channel?
It's still self-promotion so I don't want to be rude and err into channels I shouldn't, but it wouldn't exactly be a normal Sky story, so I'm not entirely sure. ๐
it will go to #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations but you can ask people who want to be @ 'ted for it or you can post a message link here for the ones who want to read it
yes, and i shall leave now
Hi again Chelz!
Nice name
sky in Eden?
Just call me Kreby 
Lol
Anything new?
let's play a game
sky or just a giant krill?
Sky
this might not be a game I need a answer
Im guessing sky
Think it's sky. Weird tho
I kinda want it to be a giant krill ngl

Thanks guys. :D
I'll probably wait for opinions from Bricky (or Null), because they're kind of the in-charge here, but you are both very supportive. โบ๏ธ
sry im back again just to edit something about this. if you want better answers esp about where to put stuff where, its best asking community sheperds or community elderspeople like Bricky or null /etc. are just normal peeps
i go now for real

Hi?
I was saying bye to ginkomimi in my own way
oh
hm why do some spirits have capes? where did timid bookworm get her butterfly cape
You think spirits had stores?Just wondering
we donโt really have a concrete answer
i theorize that capes/no capes is a religious thing
Yes, every spirit, or almost have a history
so bookworm might b religious..?
Something they have within sky's religion
Belive in the elders? In the Eden? idk
Megabird?
idk
For what the spirits use the hearts and candles, what mean it for them?
I think like a coin but, for what?
Them are dead
Maybe they use that currency to with other spirits
But they never change their appereance
they are so expensiveโฆ its liek candles and hearts are valuable
I was having a theory about it some weeks ago but im not sure
As we have a Spirit's tree, i think what them would have a "elder's tree" (
) and them can idk trade with the elders or gift hearts and candles to the elders. What you think guys?
I somewhat believe spirits can be trained to fly with capes
But the spirits are kinda "dead"
What if... they actually already try that?
Like, some of them wearing capes
What if the one who wearing capes are the one who try to fly with it?
The spirits trade with one another? Yesterday I saw that the temple in the forest was a diamond factory.They maybe tried buying them?IDK
Like, think about it. They can cross teh kingdom with flying boats, yes. But it takes too long
So tehy use light power to develope a faster way to travel
One of the idea was using it to fly, but how? Birds have wings, but human didnt
So they use capes instead
But unlike us, they cant fly with cape
so they try to fly w cape and failed?
Been thinking about that. Did spirits used to have lights, being the "same species" as us? Or not??? It's weird
Like, they are trying to develope the flying cape, but they afiled
Tbh... i think only some succed to use flying capes
I think the capes might signify some sort of athority
My best bet? The prophets from propechy
Maybe there is a reason why they called as prophets
And one of them is that
They can use the flying capes
Bricky assumes the capes had something to do with sky's religion
then how did bookworm end up using a cape? is she part of upper class or smth
GAH WHY IS SOMEONE THINKING I AM IN CHARGE?!
You can scroll up to find it
Likely TB is the part of "lucky" people who can use flying capes?
Maybe so?...
What if we are the same as the spirits? I mean .. after everyone died, that "something" that speaks to us the first time we open the game, gives us the mission to shepherd the lost stars back home, but what if that "something" blessed the generation of the children of sky so that everyone had a cape, but at the same time the ancient civilization worked with only some having one?
Unlike us, not all ancestors can operate flying capes
Tahts an interesting note, crab

I mean, there aren't fisical differeces that can say "definitely we aren't the same as spirits"
Is a possibility
Though I wish we could see some spirit with a cape 'actually flying
I think what we can imagine
what if we are just descendants of ancestor spirits and spirits are literally ancestors
I need to add something here. Its already confirmed that elders, ancestors and skids are different species
maybe a future season for that chelz
Perhaps
Remember the spirit in the flying race
@sacred rapids y'kno... maybe next season will ahve more caped spirits
Someway it can fly
The bowing one?
Oh those guy with goku and banana hair?
Yeha the twins with spiky hairs
even in valley champions one of them has a cape. its like capes arent given based on class
I bet all of my candles they are former flying racers
What are the sticks they hold?
Maybe... just amybe, what if they develope flying capes as entertainment too? Like flying race
this boy is in the second race of the valley of triumph, it can fly i thin
Pwople who can operate he flying capes can be the flying racer
maybe the capes signify a profession?
Like, think of it like some kind of way to success. Become the flying racer might be a very respectable role back then
maybe itโs a status symbol almost
like the dismayed hunter has one
Yep, it can be for status symbol as well
Maybe as we can get a gift from the elders, the spirits too, but if they do a good action or something and maybe the capes are a reward?
Who knows? I see flying capes more like magic wands for harry potter world. Only chosen ones can become wizard
Like
Only chosen ones can fly
Im... not really sure about that one, but it can work too
So people think:1-Capes have something to do with sky religion,2-Upperclass purposes,3-Rewards from other spirits
Something like the cutie marks in My little pony? 
And there could be more theories
Oh, that can be 

Im more relying to chosen ones capes tbh, but hey all theories can work too
I just named the ones we had so far
Also, what if ancestors that are gifted with more powerful light are the one who can operate flying capes?
Think about it as people who are born with more skill in one gift
i donโt think ancestors could fly with capes at all
Why not?
Interesting take, Brick.
Capes can be for religious symbol too, not only for flying
Like, maybe they wear capes not as flying, maybe they wear it for other purposes
well, iโm going a bit off the concepts here, but Elders/Ancestors were commonly described as grounded and unable to fly without power diamonds
Huh, now how you can think it like that crab?
Maybe to show their station among the spirits?
Oh... well, dang, my chosen ones theory might be in danger with that statement

rebuttal to the ยซย upper classย ยป thing: we see working class and upper class people alike with and without capes, there isnโt a pattern of no/yes capes and upper/lower class
Can I know what 'power diamonds' are?
power diamonds are those glowy things that open doors
Hmmm true
Oh,ok
theyโre related to the downfall of the civilization
it's what caused Eden to be all floaty
possibly
Probably, yea
it's what it looks like
What if, the big diamond in eden goes boom and while creating storms it also yeet the castle to the space?
I always thinkin that maybe the power diamond are probably build under the castle
Was there some blue crystal in eden somewhere?
Hence why it can yeet the whole castle to the space
in beta, the eden diamond was blue
currently the only blue diamonds are on the bodies outside the PNR tunnel
you can see a ball of yellow light while in the oob
I don't have a screenshot of it currently
i have a clearer pic if you want
oh that's the diamond?
Where is that?
Eden diamond
Oh!I didn't know that was a diamond
I wonder if i should approach the diamon in my next eden run
Or those giant elder statues instead
I thought that was edens unatainable exit
hereโs another interesting perspective
Likely, for the safety of my ipad, i will choose elder statues lol
Somehow its... clearer in color unlike from tsg video ._.
Are they changing the texture?
mine ?
Yeah yours is more clearer in color
It might be because TSG doin that video in older version of sky so it might different in color
a) i play with high graphics
b) i have a high graphic device
c) these are screenshots straight from the source, no video compression
Oh my
now its makes sense
when I went immortal in stormlock, the more i looked around the more the place struck me as a walled courtyard/garden
You know the building we pass after being sent to orbit completing eden
So after that, did you goes to orbit? How did you get out from the stormlock-
Maybe it's the castles courtyard?
Oho, nice trick
Where did you get respawned after that-
dark room
everytime i take a photo, i think is beautyful but i never thinked it
I think what are the "thing" we se in the top of the eden
i wish be able to step there someday
it should be beautiful
the castle has always intrigued me, itโs so massive and it seems to have residential buildings in it. sometimes i feel like itโs a compressed city rather than a castle
Maybe, is a space citadel?
Its looks like hogwarts castle to me
Anyway
I believe someone already amde a video of them landing on the castle
Talking about the ascend to orbit, what is that place we go before the castle?
The one with lot of mantas?
the ascent is all in/around the castle
Likely ruins or some sorts
The perspective isn't says it
pardon ?
i donโt understand what youโre trying to say
I mean what you aren't leaving the castle and you aren't near it when the cinematic starts
you go into the castle at the beginning of ascent
thatโs what the big gates are
you donโt start in the castle
and then until you go vertical, you are in the castle
then, when youโre going up, you see the top half of the castle
then it fades to orbit
By Krebby
A note for myself to pay more attention to my surrounding in my next eden run lol
Okay i will go sneep now. Cya all tommorow

Cya Flos
Bye


Um...since Im a bit bored, can I know what the enchantment symbols represent?
its up to you
it represents many things
one of which is a boat
but that is not the only one

now i must go
peace 
Bye Bricky
Lurking disabled
and i am back
in regards to the enchantment symbol, the most common observations iโve heard are ยซย boatย ยป and ยซย megabirdย ยป
The enchantment pendant?
I always thought it was an anchor
thatโs certainly a possibility
back when enchantment was ongoing, Ash came into chat and talked a bit about the pendant, saying it could be interpreted as many things
Iโve never heard anyone interpret it as the Megabird
guess you were sleeping :p
i could find this message at the very beginning of enchantment..
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
OH- Oooh oh oh k it starts with this message
that was all i could find by searching up "pendant"

Ok guys, i was viewing videos of the older versions of sky by Tara's Sky Journey and... i notice this... What family we are away from?
. . . what
thatโs an extremely old opening
But it have a meaning, i think
probably hinting at during development, we were kids from the human world

If we were kids from a human world, then why do we never grow up?
but do remember that the light awaits story and the CotL story are different 
well,,,human kid gaining wings and going to the sky where they never age
what do you think, Spacemoth ?
its funny that when lamed kneels in vault cutscene her stance is like our default sitting ones
stardust
never grow up
conclusion: neverland
(im implying that They Died)
But what is the real difference between Light Awaits and Cotl?
Oh s
(im implying that They Died)
@lethal stump Is a good theory
their stories are different
and Light Awaits went through many many narrative changes, whereas i believe CotL has a concrete outline theyโre sticking to
mate i have no ping in my username
just sad that the sibling cutscene is different although necessary. but at the same time i wish theyre not so stricken w rivalry
But they are connected someway?
i like the current cutscenes, they make the elders seem more flawed, make it feel more plausible that they caused this
ye i like that
But they are connected someway?
LA and CotL are separate, canonically. i cant stop you from using both in your theories, youโre more than welcome to, however canonically speaking theyโre separate
So, back from being embarrassed.
Skychildren are dead is a theory? I thought of that too and. Oof.
no, Creb
if you care about canon, which you donโt have to, LA isnโt a good basis for a theory
Im talking about canon absolutely
however if youโre like me and like writing fanfic, then absolutely, LA is amazing to go through and make headcanons from
I have to say what before start talking about non-canon first we have to talk about canon, is my point
Thanks anyway for help me im my investigation
Oh yeah I mean to ask
If it's not awkward for me to ask, where are your fanfics, Brick? I'd love to read one, but don't wanna be awkward
oh, itโs more of roleplays, i donโt actually write them in full
and if i do theyโre unfinished WIPs
Fair enough, same here
same. everything I have ever made is an unfinished WIP, Sky included
seeyall, gotta do chores 
Ok, i decided to investigate a LOT and i'll probably make a PDF with theories what i've searching from here and youtube, the wiki and the game. Obviously giving credits. When it finished i'll post here
You're more than welcome to help with pictures and theories, just ping or dm meh 
uhm so. wanna make sure, elders are confirmed to b genderless?
yes
ok thx
Ppl just give them pronouns because it gets a little confusing for most. XD
I try to refer to them in a way that uses no pronouns at all
ok so i just found this portfolio of this guy who works at TGC and its full of concept art and lore and beautiful drawings https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1
Y e s
its in the pins too
Greyscale Eden with Alef throwing things at you though
well you probably already have
or has a little action
Mhmm...
ยซย dark crabsย ยป
I'm writting our amazing Lore PDF, any contribution? Can be a theory, a image, anything is very very helpful, and obviously with credits
is the dark creature actually called a crab, krab or kreb, I've seen all 3
Obviously creb
Hm, well...
I actually have some pictures, but dunno if they'd be of use
...
Random but:
I'm planning to make a campaign/dungeon inspired by Sky, and my friend asked, "What's the angstiest lore an elder can have?"
And then there's me, looking back at this chat:
"U h"
Dm me noom! Anything in this moment is helpful
I'm writting our amazing Lore PDF, any contribution? Can be a theory, a image, anything is very very helpful, and obviously with credits
can i see it?
Okay. Lore folks. Hereโs a question. What are the light fragments floating in the valley races? And how did the ancestors with non flight power did flying race?
some people believe that the flight race was done on boats, others believe it wasnโt a race but a highway
some people believe that the flight race was done on boats, others believe it wasnโt a race but a highway
that would make sense, it does go through the city (the highway i mean)
wait @kind musk!!! before you go to bed and i lose you!
do you mind DMing me or something your PDF please. i would love to look through it 
but frankly, @inland narwhal, itโs mostly up to you. the beauty of lore is that itโs vague so we can make up our own answers !
Hi there, i am not exactly a lore moff ๐ but i've been reading this channel for a long time but never talked at all. I have some theories to share
@sage lava pls share
do you mind DMing me or something your PDF please. i would love to look through it
Sureee! I started it today so there's not much
Hold on
Highway seems to make more sense. So the boats floated in the flying race but slides in sliding race.
I posted this on my tumblr, since that got some notes i decided to put it here
I came up with a theory that some spirits in each constellation represents some traits of each elder
Sureee! I started it today so there's not much
never mind, i will love to see it grow
What you guys think?
Sorry if some words sounds weird, i had some problems to find some english words to fit on it. I have a poor english ๐
I thought them as more of emotions that were left behind as knowledge for emotionless child.
never mind, i will love to see it grow
I'll be sharing pics and screnshots of the grow!
i really like those! they fit really well, specially for prairie
This is the first pic, ignore the red lines, is what inglish isn't is my matern lenguage
I know that feel, @kind musk
lol
that is what i love about sky though, you get people from EVERYWHERE playing ๐
yes is amazing
yep
I'm BACK
light awaits is pre-launch beta
that's the old beta
it has a different story to CotL
oh ok
yep :P
Yas, i decided to include because i think what the lore is intresting too
so if we have anything to add, we can DM you and you will add it?
i really like those! they fit really well, specially for prairie
@frail hearth
Thx ^^
is this a google doc ? or a word document ?
Ya! dm or ping, almost everytime im online, if not, im sleeping or viewing yt
is this a google doc ? or a word document ?
@lethal stump Is a pdf
I mean, now is a word document but will be turned in a pdf
pdf is a file type, you canโt edit a pdf
yeah, thatโs what i thought
if it was a google doc you could share the link here and people could suggest edits
you wouldnโt have to be pinged
I have no problem with pings .)*
ok! im sort of coming up with lore about the different types of homes and where people live. I'll let you know if i ever do that

