lore-discussion-spoilers

[broken basin]

Walking crab:-
https://youtu.be/ziDElEh5hi4

[bitter shale]

what

are sky kids crabs now??

bat-crab?

[median stone]

Yow like saber in ML update(for who playing it)

[green tartan]

[bitter shale]

bruh-

i ahvent open ML for a while...

[median stone]

[bitter shale]

youa re reffering Mobile Legends here right?

[median stone]

Yup

[bitter shale]

alrighty lol

[median stone]

That kind of crab walk

[bitter shale]

(God fight between King/Elder Krill vs Megan/Celestial Krill Megabird
i approve this

[median stone]

And we fly like bat??

[bitter shale]

now taht you mentioned it-

we did spread our hands when we take a flight

[velvet thunder]

Don't we t pose while flying?

[green tartan]

but the animation is more to bird flights rite?

[median stone]

Riteee

[bitter shale]

t pose

[green tartan]

I-///

Don't we t pose while flying?

[bitter shale]

sky kids are superior species confirmed

[green tartan]

assert dominance

[median stone]

If we fly like bat..... Hahahahah that will be furious sky... Where every sky kids flying in chaos

[bitter shale]

why no one made t pose sky kid emote yet...

[velvet thunder]

"Fear me peasant crabs"

[bitter shale]

i eman we got pog and buff moth, why not t pose?

[hushed steeple]

Just realized king could become the equivalent of the devil/archangel vs god the megabird

[velvet thunder]

T pose over kreeb

[bitter shale]

oh yes, the fallen angel!

angels, if we count the elders too

lol

[median stone]

Poor king

[hushed steeple]

We are of our father the King
Megan does not approve

[solar relic]

oh yes, that's the lucifer theory

[sinful anvil]

we already did the lucifer joke some time ago

[median stone]

We are illegal children from the light and the darkstone

[hushed steeple]

Waaaaa I missed out on it

[sinful anvil]

isnt lucifer theory the mind control theory?

[green tartan]

let begin the war and conquest-

[solar relic]

sort of

[wind arch]

There is some element of rebellion against megan in the game

[solar relic]

let me find the photo

[sinful anvil]

mind control theory intensifies

[bitter shale]

There is some element of rebellion against megan in the game
please, tell more of this

[velvet thunder]

Intensity intensifies

[late sigil]

the statues in eden, maybe the statues are him o

[solar relic]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Brick's Lucifer theory

[wind arch]

I mean theres the Civil war with one side presumed to be allied with the king and the other supporting megan

[hushed steeple]

Megan in wrath blew up Eden but King formed Cocoon to survive and Prophecy is he will rise and smack Megan

[green tartan]

yeet megan out of existace-

[median stone]

the statues in eden, maybe the statues are him o
@late sigil I think that one is just some important scholars

[wind arch]

The darkness in the introcould refer to jealousy

[median stone]

Hmm almost true

[green tartan]

now who's actually the good guy here tho megan or the king

[median stone]

It almost like Megan should win this battle

[late sigil]

scholars huh?? hmmm

[solar relic]

i don't think it's a matter of who is good or who is bad

[median stone]

That's true

[wind arch]

I think Megan is the combined conciousness of all the natural sky creatures but especialy made of a lot of 2d birds

[median stone]

Actually I just want to presume that king just like humans... Always make mistakes and Megan angyyyy

[wind arch]

Also made up of stars

[green tartan]

who knows i mean it could ||be how hollow knight is like the radiance is the light vs the void-||

[livid valley]

back then when Megan is using paper to make creatures

[sinful anvil]

and i thought sky lacks ambiguity and deception

[late sigil]

okay first of all, why did they started war against Megan? are there any possible explanations for this

[sinful anvil]

mind control theory

[green tartan]

only thing that i can think of is conquest-

[hushed steeple]

Statues in Eden are actually skids trying to stop him but were incinerated and turned to Ash (Gears of War, Fallen Order Jedi vibes)
We the agents of Meg come to rescue them

[sinful anvil]

who were the ones theorized megan wanted to unite all things under hivemind in the form of light?

[solar relic]

that's brick and null i think

[median stone]

Ouh I thought ren said about that huge statue in eden

[late sigil]

no i do meant the huge statues in eden lmao

[hushed steeple]

Wait so ancestors weren’t on board with the idea of turning into a hive mind and losing indivualith?

[sinful anvil]

unlike hollow knight megabird is the literal life force across all living things, while radiance governs her own species and connected to not only light but also dreams

[solar relic]

here's the mind control theory by them

[wind arch]

I dont think any one side is good or bad

[hushed steeple]

Speaking back on the Lucifer thing, there are people who follow belief that he was not a bad guy but the real good guy

[green tartan]

so who's the elder really suporting tho

[late sigil]

i dont see why alef thinks that winning a war against a god is possible but okay

[solar relic]

yeah light doesn't necessarily mean good, darkness doesn't necessarily mean bad and vice versa but it's up to you to decide who you oppose snd support

[bitter shale]

i dont see why alef thinks that winning a war against a god is possible but okay
maybe thats why he fell to the earth? to find ally?

also he got the 6 elders, which i assumed to be his allies

[green tartan]

wait who's alef

[bitter shale]

alef the roince

prince

[late sigil]

or maybe he used the diamond for his source of power

[solar relic]

i see it as a more ying/yang kinda way - you need balance between both as both have their own ups and downs

actually, i think balance is a pretty prevalent theme in sky really

[bitter shale]

flipping keyboard

[green tartan]

ooooh

ok

[late sigil]

duality

[hushed steeple]

Lmao Samekh yeeting the light was my fav thing

[green tartan]

ah yes

same

[sinful anvil]

yeah light doesn't necessarily mean good, darkness doesn't necessarily mean bad and vice versa but it's up to you to decide who you oppose snd support
@solar relic going off a tangent: that brings me to my issues for corruption by darkness in fanarts. its a fun idea i’d like to explore too, but since light and darkness are natural forces in sky, it makes little sense that darkness can corrupt you under normal circumstances

[bitter shale]

ah yes, fanarts can be wild soemtimes

[late sigil]

i wonder how you can get corrupted by darkness hmmm

[green tartan]

really wild tho

[solar relic]

that depends on your perception of corruption i believe

[green tartan]

ngl

[wind arch]

I think that skids are the balance

as shown in concepts

[solar relic]

they probably are a metaphor for balance

[bitter shale]

skids are balance. their soul is light and their body is darkness

[median stone]

The one with illegal hybrid

[sinful anvil]

ya. i love the aesthetic but skykids are hybrids. they are not pure light, but they’re hybrids

[hushed steeple]

In my own storytelling, the darkness is the origin of existence, which is preceded by Silence.
Light came and “corrupted” the universe and brought chaos and destruction (despite this light is required for the current existence of reality)
Light doesn’t have to be necessarily good in theories :3

[wind arch]

So maybe too much darkness is not good for us and breaks the balance leading to corruption? maybe?

[bitter shale]

too much on one side can be destructive

[wind arch]

Also too much light turns us into what we become when we fly through the castle and we lose most of our identity and we are forced to follow a predetermined path

[bitter shale]

yep!

[median stone]

Like old politics where if there is one country more powerful than others... They will likely want to smash every country around it....

[sinful anvil]

i feel like being evil isnt caused by your heart but action, so i dont believe in darkness corrupting skykids on their own. i rationalize that skykids need to do some action voluntarily to b corrupted

[bitter shale]

against our will

[hushed steeple]

When we believe Darkness is corrupting is in reality it is merely taking back what is theirs and restoring the original form

[green tartan]

flashbacks of smash bros ultimate ending-

[median stone]

So balance is the answer.... We are the balance

[hushed steeple]

Of course this technically kills us but good is subjective

[sinful anvil]

gott damn sneep rly b fogging my brain

[late sigil]

maybe darkness spread due to ignorance

i thonk

it might be

[sinful anvil]

imo darkness only corrupts if you do actions of ur choice that enables it

[late sigil]

indeed

[sinful anvil]

i edited my text btw

[solar relic]

darkness can either mean physical or metaphorical darkness but that depends on you really

[median stone]

But what happen to venom in spiderman sandman version

[hushed steeple]

Also completely off tangent but does this not look like two moths holding hands in flight?

[green tartan]

depends on our head canon

[median stone]

It's surely show that venom overtaking him

[green tartan]

:0000

[sinful anvil]

i only see ur avatar??

[solar relic]

yeah, since you wouldn't actually be wrong

[green tartan]

under teh avattar

[velvet thunder]

The clouds guys

[late sigil]

so in other words, alef didnt chose to be corrupted but he did anyway because this mistake he made

[solar relic]

that depends on how you see it

[sinful anvil]

WHAT THE

[hushed steeple]

Against the white backdrop

[bitter shale]

or he willing to be corrupted?

[wind arch]

Looks like a huuge shadoe taki

[green tartan]

it could

[sinful anvil]

ya imo corruption only happens under will. theres no way alef wasnt corrupted by force

[solar relic]

again, nothing much is confirmed so you're pretty free to think what you think

[median stone]

Sometime it can be forcing

[green tartan]

so he submit to the darkness eh, interesting

[hushed steeple]

forcefeeds him yummy poopwater and darkplant

[green tartan]

oof

[sinful anvil]

and based on a fanart by Sol about how Teth obeyed king’s orders, to me its like she sees no way out and willfully gives up all the goodness

[solar relic]

oh this is getting weird i'll go now

[bitter shale]

if you imagine the personality of sky characters, what would Alef eould be? spoiled? manipulative?

[sinful anvil]

i thought alef is a child

[bitter shale]

i imagine him to be manipulative

[sinful anvil]

or a young prodigy

[bitter shale]

alef is prince, ref is the king

[green tartan]

same

[late sigil]

and based on a fanart by Sol about how Teth obeyed king’s orders, to me its like she sees no way out and willfully gives up all the goodness
@sinful anvil goodness?

[wind arch]

Where do we see corruption in the game? In our skid? Or is it the darkness plants we are talking about

[bitter shale]

and based on a fanart by Sol about how Teth obeyed king’s orders, to me its like she sees no way out and willfully gives up all the goodness
which fanart????

[sinful anvil]

like teth sees no way out and like “fine ill commit atrocities bc the king told me” and boom corruption

[bitter shale]

[late sigil]

whos teth

[hushed steeple]

Oof

[bitter shale]

dm me the link

[late sigil]

OH

[bitter shale]

@late sigil forest elder

[sinful anvil]

which fanart????
@bitter shale on tumblr, twinsoftriumph, based on an ask asking what teth went thru

[late sigil]

forest mom

[bitter shale]

Huh... THEY ARE MY TWITTER MUTUAL-

[solar relic]

oh as for corruption - we have not seen anything actually being corrupted, well not in cutscenes at least. but maybe we'll get to see it happening soon anyways happy theorising yall!

[sinful anvil]

@ teth You’re not my mom 😠

[hushed steeple]

Tbh I always thought it was just an extremely effeminate bodied dude

[late sigil]

wait elders have genders?

[bitter shale]

nah

[late sigil]

ok epic

[sinful anvil]

here we go again sjfbsjdbdjssjdksnsksndksjdjsjsjndndjdjsjdjdjdjejejejeu

[wind arch]

Genderless, ageless,

[bitter shale]

ahhhhh lemme check on them---

[hushed steeple]

Timeless, wordless
Lost to light and darkness through rock and flesh

[stone crater]

yes yes, keep feeding this lore chat lore

[sinful anvil]

if you imagine the personality of sky characters, what would Alef eould be? spoiled? manipulative?
A young prodigy with some godly intelligence and capabilities with some unsettling mindsets

[hushed steeple]

[median stone]

Hidden from sight..... Only if they want us to see then. Then we can se them

[hushed steeple]

Sounds like a horror movie @sinful anvil

[sinful anvil]

which one

[hushed steeple]

Prodigy

[wind arch]

I also imagined the prince to have all the skills of the elders, along with some skills that skykids have

[opal briar]

Come October ish we will have some answers

[stone crater]

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEE JOHNY

[velvet thunder]

Yes

[sinful anvil]

LVL 4

[green tartan]

Did i hear horror

[sinful anvil]

does anyone know the exorcist then?

[green tartan]

Ah yes

[opal briar]

New item wood chopping axe

[green tartan]

I love those

[sinful anvil]

ok back to talk

[velvet thunder]

Me, seeing a horror film that has so many memes I can make: I can milk you

[median stone]

Finally we are entering dark vers of sky

[sinful anvil]

actually ima sneep

[poofs]

[wind arch]

Didnt know those were used to chop wood

[green tartan]

:0

Dark mode to sky on

[opal briar]

Yea conversions will naturally veer off sky but will come back eventually

[stone crater]

And we will be radiant enough to see in the dark

[green tartan]

LmAoO

[opal briar]

sonic boom!

[stone crater]

casually lowers screen light

[green tartan]

Ok so i was thinking was there like an apocalypse before the sky children arrived or

[opal briar]

Definitely a war of some sort

[green tartan]

idk i just think of this tho-

[stone crater]

So maybe this is a time where it’s so called ‘blast to the past’

[hushed steeple]

Seemingly so, seeing as most spirits in Sky are more or less dead, with Eden and Wasteland the way they are. We don't know much other than that though.

[stone crater]

[hushed steeple]

Sanctuary spirits died on vacation

[green tartan]

Ok thaT i-////

[velvet thunder]

They got oofed

[stone crater]

S A M D

[hushed steeple]

Got whaled

[green tartan]

They got oofed while vacation

[hushed steeple]

i thought ye gonna write sad and i just 😔

big boi manta crashed to em

[green tartan]

Well the whole population was destroyed and only wasteland and vault left in ruins

Also eden

[velvet thunder]

Or a big wave came and swept them into the ocean so the spirits travelled back to their sanctuary favourite spots

[green tartan]

o h

Nuclear

[hushed steeple]

Last three areas were pretty much destroyed, with Vault more or less being a dream space or illusion where time stands suspended.

[green tartan]

Valley isn’t so much tho

[hushed steeple]

Valley is chill. People just have races there with uh.. non-existent audience.

I always find the cheers a bit unsettling since...there's no one there...

[stone crater]

#general-sky-discussion

[green tartan]

strangely the audio makes it- ye that

[velvet thunder]

What if the valley is a common sanctuary for many spirits?

[hushed steeple]

The cheers are an echo from the past

[bitter shale]

okay, thsi is from Sol's tumblr and note this is not a canon!

M: “The forest wasn’t always plagued by such deluge… but the King’s orders could not be denied.
The blacksmith’s forest was torn apart by greedy hands and his insatiable need for power.”
S: “The rain isn’t just rain.
It’s the land weeping, the tears of the lady of the forest, of all who were lost and are never to be found.
… She hasn’t been the same since.”

[velvet thunder]

So a lot of them like to watch the races and cheer on the skids?

[wind arch]

woah thats deep about the rain

[green tartan]

HoooOooo

[hushed steeple]

oh! pardon the interruption, but what Tumblr? I recall there's some sort of a Sky ask acc in Tumblr but I have long since abandoned the website. That is a very interesting take too!

[sinful anvil]

twinsoftriumph

[green tartan]

u said u sneep-

[sinful anvil]

they are also known on discord as Sol/Soleil

[hushed steeple]

I see... that's why it sounds so familiar. Thank you! I'll check it after I'm done with assignment.

[green tartan]

whY u AlIve-/////

[bitter shale]

woah they are ehre too??? i hope they dont mind me quoting their quotes here-

you can find them in twitter too! with the same name as their tumblr

[hushed steeple]

i leave for a few months and come back and this game has lore now

when i left it was still "ah yes touch candle big man give me clothes"

Ah, welcome back then!

[green tartan]

I-////

[hushed steeple]

and people dying repeatedly trying to become tiny

[bitter shale]

when i left it was still "ah yes touch candle big man give me clothes"
thats.... sounds so wrong i-

[green tartan]

O h w o w-

[bitter shale]

[green tartan]

IKr-////

[hushed steeple]

I believe this discussion belong in #general-sky-discussion as this is for lore.

yes sorry i was just "ooo what is this channel"

No worries! We can't help but wonder, yes

[bitter shale]

i like how people making their own headcanons about the world of Sky

[hushed steeple]

Also, about Vault... since it is named the Vault of Knowledge, I always find it a bit odd since we, the sky children... can't actually interact with any item with stored knowledge.

[green tartan]

Ok 👏 back 👏 to 👏 lore 👏

[bitter shale]

like, man, ya all so cretaive and im living for it

[hushed steeple]

you can open a vault door though

so the vault part is there

but it looks like you just open the door to a table

ahs

Yes, but not the knowledge stone... things.

[bitter shale]

but we cant interact with any knowledge there...

yeah

[green tartan]

i like how people making their own headcanons about the world of Sky
Same tho i have some to that’s still a working progress-

[bitter shale]

also for every floors in vaukt... they are symbolized with constellation... i wonder why

[green tartan]

but we cant interact with any knowledge there...
Sadly yes

also for every floors in vaukt... they are symbolized with constellation... i wonder why
Maybe the history or knowlage of every region or something-

[hushed steeple]

Thus came the headcanon; that Sky children doesn't have any blessings nor skills or magic to do so, only elders or ancestor spirits. Which means... The Vault of Knowledge... doesn't really have any purpose in terms of 'knowledge', at least for the Sky Children

[green tartan]

maybe the children can’t read

well they are children-

[bitter shale]

i mean... not every floors have those stone knowledge thing

like in valley floor

there is only mantas

and some platforms

[wind arch]

Its supposed to feed us lore and knowledge... it tells us about the story of the land through the vault cutscene,

[green tartan]

Well that floor is in ruins rite who knows

[bitter shale]

now taht you mentioned it...

[wind arch]

But i do agree that it could tell us a lot more

[bitter shale]

but yeah, im still curious why valley floors have conjoined mantas-

[hushed steeple]

maybe the children can’t read
@green tartan White candles and shrine candles says otherwise though... and since the player character is basically the player, and they can still read shrine stuff, I can only conclude that they simply don't have the ancient 'magic' to operate around the objects. That, and add the factor that Vault itself isn't real physically, more like a dream space.

[green tartan]

mutated mantas 👀

[bitter shale]

should i take the picture of the mantas as valley floor? im gonna login to da game rn

since it almost reset time anyway

[green tartan]

Oye-

[hushed steeple]

Conjoined mantas.. Perhaps it has something to do with the Valley Elders kind of a split from one being? Uh... At least that's what I heard...

[bitter shale]

conjoined... twins...

oh god

[green tartan]

O h no

[bitter shale]

NONONO I DONT WANNA IMAGIEN THAT-

[hushed steeple]

i regret saying that now but the possibility has to be brought out 😭 they're splits now though.

[bitter shale]

i mean, they each only have one eye-

[green tartan]

OASHAIAHAOAHA

[hushed steeple]

And since they;re elders who knows how their anatomy and biology works...

[green tartan]

So

[bitter shale]

that theory can work tho

[green tartan]

O h g o d

OOHH NO WONDER THEY HAVE THIS PROSTHETIC ARMS

[bitter shale]

ya all ehre givin me sky nightmare fuel

i like it

[wind arch]

Also in orbit the valley twins are called 'the elder of the valley'

[bitter shale]

PROSTHETIC ARMS???

[wind arch]

Instead of elders

[hushed steeple]

Yes! The share the same name too, right? Samekh!

[green tartan]

Wait leme search for the pic

[bitter shale]

wait what they did have prosthetic arms??? those are not some fanarts aesthetic???

since in the concept there is originally only one elder...

a riestess

priestess

[green tartan]

Like this-

[hushed steeple]

If you squint, then yeah, it seemed like they have prosthetics... The next time I go to Eden, I should call them down and look into more detail.

[wind arch]

That name isnt canon though samekh

[bitter shale]

bruh- how could i didnt noticed it-

i ahvent even finished their constellation

[hushed steeple]

I know, but it was in the concept arts...

Finishing a constellation is agony in general

[green tartan]

At first i was huh whyere one of there arm is a rock

Oof-

[wind arch]

Finishing a constellation is agony in general
Unless its isle

[bitter shale]

Finishing a constellation is agony in general
especially when ts is around

[green tartan]

Oof-

True-////

[hushed steeple]

Me: oh boy im gonna finish Wasteland constellation next!!

TS: hey

but that aside..

[wind arch]

Ts is always around Back to lore i gues

[bitter shale]

if the next ts bring new cape or instru, i will cry-

okay

[green tartan]

I-

[bitter shale]

anyway

i will go to the game first lol, takin screenshots

[green tartan]

Conjoined twins-

[lyric isle]

if it’s the flautist I will cry

[wind arch]

I think people in valley loved to party

After their team won

[bitter shale]

i dont wnat to imagine deformed dora-kakashi

my day is already bad enough alrite

[green tartan]

oof-/////

[hushed steeple]

i dont wnat to imagine deformed dora-kakashi
@bitter shale sorry, sorry! Although conjoined twin might be the wrong term to use; used to be one being is probably the correct one.

[bitter shale]

no no no its fone actually-

i like the idea of them formerly one soul become two-

like a common belief of twins originnaly one soul-

[velvet thunder]

It explains why in their cutscene they start together and then split into being twins or rather reveal there's two elders not one

Also with one of them just straight up meeting the flame since they're playing a game to see who can get it and the one with spiky hair is just there like- you think I'll give it to you--SIKE

Somewhere in the stars Megan gets KO'd by the flame

G A M E

[bright acorn]

I made the vid already. Can i share my link here.

[kind bobcat]

King propaganda

[hushed steeple]

Momo i think better to post in #promote-your-sky-content and then share the post link here

[bright acorn]

Ummm. Yeah yeah. So shall i remove the picture

[plush crescent]

excuse me, is this the place to talk about anything ?

[kind bobcat]

Not Anything

This place is for any topic related to Lore.

[plush crescent]

oh, thank you

[green tartan]

Ok i drew on how would the twins looked like before seperated

Since it’s also kinda like a theory

[dull fox]

So I managed to climb to the top of the wasteland temple with a moth, and saw a massive stone wall behind it

[kind bobcat]

#completed-sky-fanart-and-creations i guess?

[dull fox]

I didn’t get a good picture but it’s pretty detailed if you look not where I was looking

Do you think that wall is the vault?

Or just a graphics thing for no reason

[bitter shale]

conjoined mantas

also i just realized... gw didnt have a floor? it just straight from valley to vault elder statue?

[dull fox]

I don’t like thinking that those are all just mantas attached together

[bitter shale]

what if its elder memory manta?

[kind bobcat]

Wdym gw doesnt have a floor

[bitter shale]

im.. not sure too... like, the platform just stopped after valley, but there is no gw constellation marking taht floor

[kind bobcat]

huh?

I am seriously confused rn.

[bitter shale]

its just straight to the spiral of mantas and then this floor

[kind bobcat]

Oh, that.

[bitter shale]

look i cant capture the floor because those mantas keep kidnapping me

[green tartan]

oof

rip

[kind bobcat]

If you think about it, vault might just be an extension of gw.

or Eden

[wind arch]

That wall is vault i believe

[dull fox]

I imagine there’s no floor for the GW because the wasteland is a scar to the land. They don’t want to remember what happened there

[kind bobcat]

So you could say the summit counts as the gw floor.

[bitter shale]

also among the 6 floors, only isle constellation have these knowledge store things

[wind arch]

Eden is like the top of vault

[green tartan]

Wasteland

[wind arch]

like the the crown of vault

[dull fox]

Technically no

[kind bobcat]

vault is an overglorified elevator

[bitter shale]

vault of cutscenes

[dull fox]

When you complete the vault- getting to the top- you find that it is destroyed. The elevator is destroyed and the power crystal broken

[bitter shale]

my phones lags so bad there

[dull fox]

I believe that your whole journey up the vault isn’t real. A dream or a hallucination of sorts

[kind bobcat]

^ that.

[bitter shale]

[kind bobcat]

Or could be a vr experience of sorts utilizing lantern projections

[dull fox]

Possibly

[sinful anvil]

White Palace but Blue

[wind arch]

So? eden could still be the top of vault

[kind bobcat]

Same thing as the elder meditation shrines.

[sinful anvil]

Blue Palace

[dull fox]

But the fact is, you never actually ascend the vault

[green tartan]

Dark blue palace

[kind bobcat]

The cutscenes take place outside of space and time but still affect the real world

[dull fox]

The vault is more like a gateway leading into Eden

[bitter shale]

gateway of hell

[dull fox]

You go in, have mad hallucinations, then go to Eden

[kind bobcat]

But the fact is, you never actually ascend the vault
We don't exactly know though

[hushed steeple]

White Palace but Blue
@sinful anvil Instead of buzzsaws its just mantas.

[bitter shale]

yeah makes sense why people said knowledge are evil

[green tartan]

Kind of

[bitter shale]

You go in, have mad hallucinations, then go to Eden
the calm before the storm vibe

[kind bobcat]

If you wait long enough in the summit you can hear a sound similar to a large object fitting into an opening/tight space

[wind arch]

We are hallucinating and we arent necassarily moving upwards, but eden could still be physically located at the top

[hushed steeple]

But it would make sense for Vault to be just a gateway... after the final cutscene, you woke up in a broken down shrine thing.. in front of it is Eden. Is that all that left from the real Vault?

[kind bobcat]

Yet again, sky meditation logic

[dull fox]

Yes

Here’s a thing about war

[kind bobcat]

We could've hallucinated and get teleported to the summit

[bitter shale]

i never think of it like that!

[dull fox]

When you win you destroy the history and knowledge of the people you conquered

[wind arch]

That could be teleportation of sorts

Like how the home shrines telport us back home

[dull fox]

If there was a war fought in the wasteland then whoever won destroyed the vault so their enemies couldn’t regain the knowledge they had

[green tartan]

Ooooh

[kind bobcat]

Personally i believe the vault is a VR experience

[hushed steeple]

It would make perfect sense for Vault to be just an illusionary gate way... the top of Vault, we see the elder statues, right? But those statues was from Eden Palace, right before we ascend to the Orbit.

[dull fox]

Yes

[bitter shale]

is taht mean there is a possibility of Vr Sky?

[kind bobcat]

It would make perfect sense for Vault to be just an illusionary gate way... the top of Vault, we see the elder statues, right? But those statues was from Eden Palace, right before we ascend to the Orbit.
@hushed steeple Probably, the statues in eden are HUGE though

[dull fox]

The vault was once a grandeous room but was destroyed after they lost the war

[bitter shale]

we are having vr in sky, why not vr sky?

[green tartan]

is taht mean there is a possibility of Vr Sky?
@bitter shale pls no I’m broke-

[sinful anvil]

what if theres no way to reach eden physically so this vault is a shortcut

[dull fox]

Yes

The vault was the only way into Eden

[kind bobcat]

Amio took these

[dull fox]

And so as people fought to get to Eden they destroyed the vault

[hushed steeple]

It would make sense for them to tone down the statues to be smaller to be less intimidating... The King's statue in GW is huge too tho. that size?

[sinful anvil]

the candles are gone

[dull fox]

A hallucination doesn’t have to be actual size

[hushed steeple]

WOAH I DIDNT REALIZE ITS THAT BIG

[green tartan]

O wow it’s huge

[kind bobcat]

Some say those aren't shrines

[sinful anvil]

skykids b like my whole life is a lie

[kind bobcat]

Those could be the elders' thrones

[green tartan]

I can only think that vault is a gateway to all realms is it?

[sinful anvil]

[creates a skykid oc who turns against megabird out of sheer crisis of faith]

[kind bobcat]

Vault is a gateway to eden.

[dull fox]

They don’t look like very comfortable chairs @kind bobcat

[kind bobcat]

@dull fox bold of you to assume they actually sat on it

[dull fox]

oH

[hushed steeple]

Goober, do you find the King';s statue there too? Since it's all the elders..

[kind bobcat]

Amio took those

And no, i don't see the king statue anywhere in eden

[bitter shale]

anyone can guess why Tsadi's statue is the only one who got cracked?

[hushed steeple]

Ah I see...

[bitter shale]

[green tartan]

Probably cus he becoming weak

[dull fox]

@bitter shale tsadi is the wasteland elder right?

[green tartan]

Idk

[bitter shale]

yep

[green tartan]

Yep

[bitter shale]

tsadi is GW elder

[dull fox]

The statue was probably broken during the war. I dont think the other, peaceful elders liked him much

[bitter shale]

aw-

[wind arch]

Maybe they didnt sit on them, but instead sat on the floor in front of them? like how meditation is significant in our travels maybe it was of spitirual significance for the elders

[hushed steeple]

It may point to the original script where he was corrupted and sacrificed himself.. though it could also mean otherwise, the canon one, since his land is destroyed?

[bitter shale]

why no one like Tsadi :(

[green tartan]

I liek tsadi

[bitter shale]

me too

[hushed steeple]

I like Tsadi's wig

[bitter shale]

i like all elders

[green tartan]

hince I’m the ceo of war and stuff :)-

LmAo-/

[bitter shale]

[hushed steeple]

There was no king's statue

Only elders

And ya... Really really huge

[wind arch]

Does this mean Lamed was the leader? Or atleast the most important out of the elders?

Since Lamed's Shrine is in the middle

[green tartan]

how did u actually get there tho

[hushed steeple]

I posted a tutorial video for it in #eden-spoilers

Oh! I'll view it soon. I love taking my partner to OOBs.

#eden-spoilers message
Here

Thank you Amio

[bright acorn]

https://youtu.be/724Fd53mzPY. Did it do it right. Delete the link if its out of bouds

[hushed steeple]

Holy moly that's huge

[bright acorn]

This is one of my dreams too. Glad u made it here

@hushed steeple

[hushed steeple]

It took more than 2 hours to land there successfully

Btw um let's go back to lore talks

[bright acorn]

Thats real explorers do.

[hushed steeple]

Momo what you found if that's really king's mask then

King was bigger than what i thought

Umm now I'm thinking about that theory... The entire eden is the king's body

The vault mural also says it

2nd pic... Seems like boats carrying power diamonds

[fading bear]

They do kinda look like boats though

[hushed steeple]

this also looks like a boat

[wind arch]

Umm now I'm thinking about that theory... The entire eden is the king's body
Thats what I thought , theres even an old concept art

[charred heath]

hey i’m kinda new to exploring the lore...i’ve checked out the pins is there anywhere else you guys recommend other good sources? it’s a little overwhelming and i’m not sure where a good place to start

also i’m thinking that ||pendant for the new season in beta|| has a lot to do with symbols for incoming 11-15 wedges design on capes 👀

[modest finch]

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

[charred heath]

thank you friend!! <3

[kind moat]

anyone can guess why Tsadi's statue is the only one who got cracked?
@bitter shale her face also looked sad and worn out

[edgy sequoia]

first pic is probably leftover from the old version of the game

I think you can interact with those diamonds before

[kindred oar]

My friend said that the ||new pendant|| indicates the first light

[mossy bay]

I think that mural means that the kings soul is trapped in Eden, not that the entirety of the castle is his physical body

I’m really hoping this season just opens a can of worms and is drenched in lore

[tender dune]

GW temple boats 3 boats carrying blue-ish diamond and top boat carrying golden diamond

[bitter shale]

If the whoel castle is truly the body of the king... imagine how hard it will be if we have to battle him

[inland iron]

I noticed that the symbole above forest's temple entrance is the same as the mask of forest elder in the concept art :0

[tender dune]

Yep

Its like a teaser/Easter egg

[bitter shale]

Mama Teth looks so cool in concept art :o

[tender dune]

Same with other temples iirc

[inland iron]

The mask look so cool i wish they add it with the forest ultimate reward

[bitter shale]

I agreed-

[mossy bay]

I wonder why they redesigned her so much softer than this

[tender dune]

Sky in general was much darker back then

[inland iron]

Game would be more exciting if forest elder chancing you around

[bitter shale]

...uhh, because she is now not a seducer like in the original concept?

Shdjjdhdhs

Thats sounds so worng im so sorry-

[inland iron]

If all elders chancing you from places you wouldn't notice

[kind moat]

but forest mama is still very sassy

[tender dune]

Well yeah teth's task was to basically trick us to get the flame so-

[inland iron]

[bitter shale]

Mama teth is a meanie? :(

[kind moat]

she is. edit: she was in the concet

[inland iron]

no she's not

[kind moat]

also the isle elder concept was a vulture waiting for innocent travelers

[mossy bay]

She still lowkey is a meanie

[kind moat]

forest mama so sassy

[mossy bay]

Then she changes up real quick when you call to her in Eden 😂

[inland iron]

no she nice, that's just how she shows love

[mossy bay]

First impressions count, haven’t liked her since my first run

[kind moat]

i've always loved gw elder

and his concept

[mossy bay]

So this season there will only be 4 seasonal prophet spirits to relive? “They have been patiently waiting for you”

If they are heavily tied to lore i wonder if they will be permanent spirits in game

[kind moat]

hmmmm. that's interesting

this makes me really excited

[mild lark]

I just found out that manta doesn't have neck

Now I'm having existential crisis

[charred heath]

lore moff from an hour ago. just went into a big deep lore spiral i have so much the think about oh my gosh

[edgy sequoia]

Mama Teth looks so cool in concept art :o
@bitter shale Teth the umbrella woman seducing child-napper

[ember temple]

Very interested in the new spirits

[charred heath]

i’m sure there’s been theories about this. any thoughts on what the ‘ribs’/bones are in GW’s mural from the vault elder/vault OOB?

also the stones in the Vault and Forest cutscenes...they seem like they’re a perfect fit for the missing diamonds in the statutes of the elders chests...and they resemble mechanisms where we’re supposed to open doors (the blue diamonds)!? some kind of light/life force?

also the crabs cycles representing something...are they stone??? it’s strange because they’re kind of ‘neutral’ creatures, not ENTIRELY dark like krill and plants (i mean...just look at sanctuary - not sure how canon sanctuary is and all but still). maybe they were forged??

and i have a tendency to think that the forest elder possibly fuelled some kind of industrialisation (if it follows my interpretation from my research that the forest realm‘s purpose might have been something of forgery/smithing?). kind of suits the morally neutral perspective i had on her???

and i didn’t even realise there was a King...how fascinating... i just saw momo’s video and i’m blown away.

anyway - just thoughts from a lore moth...these have probably been active discussions for a while now 😅 sorry if i’m a little repetitive - got a bit swept away. thanks to everyone for doing so much hard work on the lore and making it accessible for folks like me!

[kind moat]

hmm. forest was def the beginning of industrial revolution. as you notice from isle to forest (until temple) all doors need to opened by lighting it. then when you enter that forest (before valley) it automatically opens, signifying the modernization which is valley. the doors there are all automated (except that burried two player door which is kinda a remnant of the past). but at gw, the corruption began, doors need to be manually lightened again. i hope i make sense

also about crabs. there are two friendly crabs at the sanctuary.

[peak widget]

[bitter shale]

Hewwo

[golden cave]

Hewwoo

[charred heath]

wow fascinating! thanks for your explanation on the mechanisms :) that makes a lot of sense!

i saw meditation mentioned earlier in this chat. does that mean meditation has some kind of lore too? some of those automated ‘industrial’ mechanisms are sitting down from white lights...like at valley door? do you think meditation is related to industrialisation too? it does meditation have its own lore?

[bitter shale]

Okay, so does anyone noticed heartbeat after we got wasted in eden? Before we actually collapsed and went to total blackout, we can still hear heartbeat...

Is that mean skykids have a heart?

[charred heath]

i had no idea there were two friendly crabs that’s amazing. i gotta find them haha

[kind moat]

i had no idea there were two friendly crabs that’s amazing. i gotta find them haha
@charred heath there is! befriend them

[peak widget]

hello flos

what d i miss

[bitter shale]

Heyo notmoth

Eh, not much.. i just went online too

[kind moat]

Okay, so does anyone noticed heartbeat after we got wasted in eden? Before we actually collapsed and went to total blackout, we can still hear heartbeat...

Is that mean skykids have a heart?
@bitter shale i think our hearts are made up of light from those stars that fallen

[peak widget]

Okay, so does anyone noticed heartbeat after we got wasted in eden? Before we actually collapsed and went to total blackout, we can still hear heartbeat...

Is that mean skykids have a heart?
@bitter shale when you hold someones hand there is a heartbeat sound

[bitter shale]

Huh... i never notice it!

Since i always be the one who got held lol

[kind moat]

it's actually pretty cool

[peak widget]

this emote with paire of skids make music/sound tho

[golden cave]

Some phone not making it louder....

Yuppp but sadly now it’s light have gone

[bitter shale]

Aww :(

Well it might to improve perfomances for many phones..

But still its dissapointing hshhs

[kind moat]

hmm try going to quite places

[bitter shale]

Also, does anyone also notice that this week seasonal quest is about colored light?

Dunno why, it might because of season final week?

[kind moat]

i noticed that too

[kind bobcat]

Fun fact : skykids snore

[bitter shale]

Today is red light in wasteland

Yesterday is blue light in valley

[edgy sequoia]

||green light||
||I'm making a bad reference to a game||

[bitter shale]

Are we getting any colored light in yesterday prairie and forest quest? I have forgotten...

[kind moat]

and those lights in the murals from the teaser

[neat flint]

Yes! Kinda?

[bitter shale]

Thats what im thinking too!

[neat flint]

Are we getting any colored light in yesterday prairie and forest quest? I have forgotten...
@bitter shale No, the light quests just started at valley

[bitter shale]

It might have connection with next season?

[kind moat]

i think it will have

[bitter shale]

Ohh i see! Thanks for remind me that

[neat flint]

It might have connection with next season?
@bitter shale Maybe they're trying to give us hint 👀

[edgy sequoia]

does it mean we have to collect lights all over again

[mossy bay]

Next week?

[kind moat]

enchantment pretty much is closer to something to the lore

[golden cave]

I always think that part of birdnest and SANC island is important part of the Sky world

[kind moat]

those magical light

[bitter shale]

The season will end this week, no? I forgot how many days last...

[kind moat]

it's only 6 days?

[neat flint]

6 days left

[golden cave]

Really??????

[neat flint]

Yes

[golden cave]

Nooo wayyyy

[bitter shale]

Okay so the last seaaon day is... sept 20th?

[kind moat]

i even read somewhere that even sanctuary has little something to do with the lore

[golden cave]

Because of the manta....elder manta

[kind moat]

i think it was the introduction of mama whale.

[bitter shale]

Valley = blue
Wasteland = red
Vault
Prairie
Forest
Valley
Wasteland
Vault
??

Huh

[golden cave]

And birdnest still in thought about green light poop

[frail hearth]

djhdeh poop

[kind moat]

vault=purple

[golden cave]

Forest orange

[mossy bay]

Prairie - green

[bitter shale]

I already forgotten so many

[kind moat]

technically isle = cyan

[mossy bay]

Valley - blue

[bitter shale]

Also iw as kinda hoping they enchant quest giver can finally go home lol, their friend must be missed them

Since they are the only one who stay behind

[kind moat]

baymax will stay at the sanctuary

[bitter shale]

BAYMAX

[mossy bay]

Hahaha

[golden cave]

They just sacrifice themselves for next decades when their season comes back

[noble depot]

Isle has cyan, Praire has green, Forest has orange, Valley has blue, Wasteland has red and Vault has purple as far as I know

for the colours

[kind moat]

i really think those lights have something to do with it. the red light was even moved to the shipwreck. well technically there are two red lights now

[neat flint]

I think the lights in the cutscence were swapped by somehow 👀

[bitter shale]

Oh my god i thought you were calling enchant questgiver as baymax while here i am thinking hard how in star names they looks like baymax-

[neat flint]

Which made the realms un-balanced 👀
Like the forest burning 👀

[bitter shale]

Until i re-read it again and realized you are reffering to sanct-

[golden cave]

Actually there’s a lot of BAYMAX in this game

[kind moat]

sanctuary is our turtle baymax

[golden cave]

They just having a bit revolution with hair

Skinny type

[bitter shale]

The sanct questgiver is the most baymax look alike tbh

With taht manta cape

[golden cave]

Big hair type

[kind moat]

and turtle look because of the handpan

[golden cave]

Ouh yeah

[neat flint]

Manta is turtle 👀

[bitter shale]

Legit thought the handpan was ninja turtle shell-

[kind moat]

what if, the quest giver stayed because they still have unfinished buss to do

[golden cave]

I should make other mimic costume...
I’ve done bird, manta, whale....and this one should be turtle but I can’t purchase anything😭😭

[noble depot]

the questgivers stay to tell their tales

[bitter shale]

Eh, likely they are staying so none of us messing around on their area

Also then why rhythm didnt stay-

[golden cave]

Because it’s not counted as new season

[kind moat]

and now, next season, we will see and behold the tales of our ancestors

[golden cave]

It’s actually winter season right?

[noble depot]

its since enchantment that they started to stay i guess??

correct me if im wrong, im from enchantment

[golden cave]

Yeahh

[bitter shale]

Yeah.. i wish rhythm or belonging stay too...

Likely its because after enchant we got new season area?

[neat flint]

7 realms in the game and the next season is the 7th season 👀

[kind moat]

what if, tgc prepared two season, season of prophecy, the prequel of the next season. the season where the prophecy came true

[bitter shale]

Hooo boi

[golden cave]

I think every season actually left something for us like enchantment

[bitter shale]

7? Its likely 3rd season for andro

[noble depot]

Likely its because after enchant we got new season area?
@bitter shale yeah thats what i understood too, the new areas in game ought to have "guides" so something about that??

[golden cave]

Like belongings there is one golden bell under the meeting tree for who can make chibi table trick

[cold moth]

Usually every season have 7 spirit (including quest giver)..but Prophecy might be not same

[golden cave]

Like rhythm maybe there’s something we can discover but it’s hard to find

[bitter shale]

Only 5?

[golden cave]

Another season don’t know

[kind moat]

Usually every season have 7 spirit (including quest giver)..but Prophecy might be not same
@cold moth yes. the spirits are called prophets here. 4 to be exact

[glad forge]

The 2 got lost probably

[bitter shale]

But maybe, just maybe... there is 7 but we need to save/fidn them?

[golden cave]

Yeah only five

[kind moat]

and one quest giver

[bitter shale]

Who knows la

[golden cave]

We need four spirit to save only

One more is prophecy guider

[bitter shale]

Ae

Aw

[cold moth]

Tgc must be have some sleeve to be lurking with the lore

[kind moat]

hmmm. i think they don't need saving. we need to find the prophets

[glad forge]

Maybe they didnt show us all

[bitter shale]

The symbol for next season is 4 pointed star anyway

So yeah

[kind moat]

look for the prophets

and they will show something

[glad forge]

Or there are really just 4 and guide

[kind moat]

the dark past

[bitter shale]

Show me how to egt more candles-

[golden cave]

I don’t mean saving but as everyone said in normal spirit, we are saving their memories

[kind moat]

Or there are really just 4 and guide
@glad forge this is what they said in the note

[noble depot]

Show me how to egt more candles-
@bitter shale run Eden daily

[kind moat]

it's okay my friend. no need to censore here

[bitter shale]

Nooo im too scared-

[golden cave]

Wow

[noble depot]

in the trailer there were only like 5 i think?

[golden cave]

Yeah

[kind moat]

in the trailer there were only like 5 i think?
@noble depot one quest giver

4 prophets

[noble depot]

it's okay my friend. no need to censore here
@kind moat i just realised XD this is a spoiler channel

[solar relic]

only 4 masks shown so 4 prophets

[golden cave]

As the pendant prince mask only have four light line

[kind moat]

i'm thinking. the prophets have 4 diff prophecy leading into one big event. like the four horsemen of apocalypse

[golden cave]

It’s impossible for taking more than seven spirit

[bitter shale]

There is one thing that bugging me... in Teth (Forest Elder) cutscene, we give them light (more like Teth snatched the light away from us lol). But then Teth summon a hammer and start... hammering.. the light???

Like, why?

[noble depot]

yeah thats what i figured too, they all add up to a big tale

[bitter shale]

For what purpose?

[kind moat]

There is one thing that bugging me... in Teth (Forest Elder) cutscene, we give them light (more like Teth snatched the light away from us lol). But then Teth summon a hammer and start... hammering.. the light???

Like, why?
@bitter shale the power diamond

[golden cave]

They said they want to focus more to story,emotions and impacting things

[kind moat]

the creation that leads to their downfall

[bitter shale]

No, like, why Teth didnt just directly fuse the light with the diamond? Why need to hammer it first?

[golden cave]

Ouh but she look like harsh woman

[cold moth]

Sky have own unique lore..it so great game

[golden cave]

Sorry for gendering that elder

[bitter shale]

Nah nah its fine

[kind moat]

forest mama is just sassy

[bitter shale]

Its a freedom to gender them anyway, altho i like to call them as genderless

[solar relic]

she was more evil in the concepts/development

[kind moat]

true

[noble depot]

yeah the forest elder is "disappointed and mad" so ig thats why the hammering of light?

[bitter shale]

Mama forest, best mama with mama Vault

[kind moat]

the gw elder concept was like a tearjerker

[golden cave]

I know why she hammering it.....do you remember if real diamond won’t break if we hammer it?
Maybe she testing the light we bring is it strong enough for power diamond

[kind moat]

he was a half corrupted elder

[bitter shale]

Or maybe she is testing the light... like how you bite a coin to make sure its a real coin-

[frail hearth]

who the heck bites a coin

[golden cave]

Yeah in concept actually forest like evil forest but they hide it

[kind moat]

I know why she hammering it.....do you remember if real diamond won’t break if we hammer it?
Maybe she testing the light we bring is it strong enough for power diamond
@golden cave maybe the light was lost that's why she can't forge. and then she saw us. carrying a precious light. with excitement, she snatched it away

[golden cave]

Ahhahaha like hungry people

[bitter shale]

I... dont think she is excited... more like "finally, someone actually bring it" vibe

[kind moat]

like the krill, angry at the light. but the elders longing for the light

[golden cave]

They bite coin....sometime that coin is chocolate wrap

[bitter shale]

Yea

[golden cave]

But that still funny thing

[kind moat]

but we're forgetting isle grandpa. one of the precious

[golden cave]

We bringing fake light the wrapping is light inside is poop😂😂😂😂

[kind moat]

i hope he play a role this coming season

[bitter shale]

And we cant bite a fire so that might be the case why Teth hammer it instead

[golden cave]

Yuppp he is precious but no one agree with him...and he don’t want to fall in power diamond temptation

[kind moat]

he was apparently our guide, the beginning. that voice at the start

[noble depot]

i hope he play a role this coming season
@kind moat what if

cue drums

the isle elder had a connection with this season

[kind moat]

"if only they listened"

[golden cave]

But don’t make funny with mama forest or she’ll smack you

[bitter shale]

I mean... the next season take place in their area soooo

But don’t make funny with mama forest or she’ll smack you
I will bring them lots of crabs then-

[noble depot]

usually seasons and normal constellations run prarallelly, but what if this time they changed that

[golden cave]

She smack every crab with her magic hammer

[kind moat]

isle of dawn, underneath "the cave of prophecies:

[golden cave]

So what do you mean@noble depot

[charred heath]

if forest mum represents industrialisation of any sort, maybe ‘hammering’ is her way of controlling the situation? reflects how they use tools to progress and control???

[bitter shale]

Propechies : edited

[golden cave]

@charred heath ooomaagasdd😂

[kind moat]

if forest mum represents industrialisation of any sort, maybe ‘hammering’ is her way of controlling the situation? reflects how they use tools to progress and control???
@charred heath it was the start, the creation

[bitter shale]

Thats... sounds so wrong i cant-

[golden cave]

Prophecies

[noble depot]

So what do you mean@noble depot
@golden cave idk maybe the prophets are the elder's brothers or cousins or sons or something lol

im just ranting at this point

[golden cave]

Maybe they are the advisor for king

[kind moat]

haha. maybe. or just the young version of themselves

[charred heath]

y’all are blowing my mind today

[kind moat]

if only they have listened

[charred heath]

i gotta come here more often xD

[kind moat]

the young version of elders huh

[golden cave]

But they won’t listen.....they keep to taking that forbiddden stone

Hmmmmph maybe

If younger version....it only five

So there’s seven

[kind moat]

oho

the twins maybe have one body back then

[golden cave]

I mean there’s seven realm

[bitter shale]

conjoined twins

[golden cave]

That valley won’t change

[kind moat]

valley is my fav place

[bitter shale]

I like the twins as they are now

[golden cave]

Maybe there’s only four elder at first

[bitter shale]

valley is my fav place
Same! I like skating there

[golden cave]

We push GW and Vault

As it the same place at first

[kind moat]

the valley represents the downtown, sky race is for the rich. and the sliding race is for the middle class, notice how it looks like a slum

[golden cave]

Ouh including valley

[kind moat]

and sky race even have a citadel. for vip's ppftt

[golden cave]

Valley+GW+vault+Eden/valley+Gw=vault+eden

[cold moth]

We need more race...fly and dodge krills along the way

[golden cave]

Wow interesting race ever

[bitter shale]

No dont give TGC ideas-

[golden cave]

With lot of skykids using elemen bending power

[bitter shale]

At this point all sky kids will ascend and become avatars

[kind moat]

swim race, we want one

[golden cave]

Yeah wishtlist channel......hope for UNDERWATER SEASON

[kind moat]

all this aside, tgc said new season will be emotional

[golden cave]

So why that season should be now???

Yeah

They even focused more to this world story

[kind moat]

they even joked ultimate gift will be a pack of tissue

[kind bobcat]

interesting

[golden cave]

As Covid reference

[bitter shale]

I mean... tissue can be useful to decorate Forest-

Halloween Trick or Treat

Hehe

[golden cave]

Ouh that’s why it should be now.....coz we lacked tissue paper

[kind moat]

it'll get burned haha

[kind bobcat]

tgc making a lore-based season is basically them reminding us that the world of sky is a post-apocalyptic kingdom where everyone is dead and we're exploring what's left of them

[bitter shale]

Or halloween reference

[golden cave]

Mama forest will get angrier

[cold moth]

Usually 1 full season takes 3 months right?

[kind bobcat]

2-3

[bitter shale]

Ye

[golden cave]

Using bazooka for testing the light

[kind moat]

they are actually amazing. that gap between seasons is so short

you can tell how much they love sky

[kind bobcat]

Sanc lasts for 70 days while enchantment got an extension during the final days

[bitter shale]

If we get a jack of lantern mask for halloween i will explode with happiness-

[kind bobcat]

well i heard there was a jack-o-lantern hat last halloween

[kind moat]

there was

[bitter shale]

[golden cave]

Yeahh

[bitter shale]

Hat???

[kind moat]

and a bat cape

[golden cave]

But.....

[cold moth]

Roughly, 90 days per season..
4 spirit..i donno but i think tgc will throw 1 spirit lore per 22 days..i donno how to explain it

[golden cave]

Huhuhu

[bitter shale]

Whoa whoa whoa i will be so happy!

What if prophecy take more shorter days?

[golden cave]

Huh 90 days for prophecies only?.

[bitter shale]

Since the spirits only 4

[cold moth]

[golden cave]

Omg

[kind bobcat]

The season itself will be loaded with clues on the origin of the kingdom

[golden cave]

We’ll watch entire Sky movie

[kind bobcat]

prepare your screen recorders

[bitter shale]

And your phone storage

[charred heath]

so excited for the lore T^T it’s why i’ve decided to jump on the lore train and learn as much as i can before this next season

[green tartan]

ah yes

[golden cave]

New phone calling

[bitter shale]

KADAL

Eyeyyeye

[kind moat]

i love my lore gang

[green tartan]

time to see the suffering of my phone

ay

[bitter shale]

My phone already suffering from college files TwT

[golden cave]

But Bricky has leave us for a few days...or it’s me who missed that time?

[kind moat]

i miss bricky

[bitter shale]

Nah, Bricky was online today

[golden cave]

Ouh really good

[bitter shale]

For me its... at this morning

[golden cave]

What does he talking about

[bitter shale]

Talkinga bout those elders statue in the orbit

[kind moat]

those big statues

[golden cave]

Hmmmph???.

[bitter shale]

Yeh

[golden cave]

In orbit?

Or in Eden?

Or in orbit elder tombstone

[kind bobcat]

Aw, you missed brick, how sweet of you

[green tartan]

:0

[bitter shale]

Orbit elder tombstone

[golden cave]

Ouh

[bitter shale]

Well not exactly tombstone i think

[golden cave]

So?

[bitter shale]

Like their statues, the same in vault but bigger

[green tartan]

i think it'sa throne-

[bitter shale]

Giant, even

[golden cave]

Aaa throne is better

[bitter shale]

Nah... they looks so uncomfy to sit upon

[golden cave]

Well it’s using far more expensive technologies where when then come with the remote they will have sit

So no one can sit in their throne without that remote

[bitter shale]

And i highly doubted the twins willing to sit on the same throne hshshs

[golden cave]

Ouh maybe they will be one when they want to sit

[cold moth]

Wait..in this lore chat we can talk about orbit or so?

[golden cave]

Yeah everything about your knowledge in this Sky World

[bitter shale]

I mean.. this channel already counted as spoiler channel, so why not?

[golden cave]

But don’t spoil beta things???

Huhuhu

[cold moth]

Oh i donno it..

[green tartan]

hmm well they could just sit on the ground tho

[cold moth]

It so rare to me spending time at lore

[golden cave]

Ahahhaah hope there is beta lore channel

[green tartan]

AAAAA

SAME

mmmm hunggy

[kind bobcat]

Beta lore will eventually become normal lore, so.. no need for a whole new channel

[green tartan]

wanna eat manta meat

brb

[bitter shale]

Enjoy your dish-

[green tartan]

Oh i will

[golden cave]

It’s rare for me in general discussion where everyone should be

[cold moth]

Usually I'm at gen chat..and beta(just lurking)..

[kind bobcat]

well, welcome to lore chat

where sky slowly turns to Doom

[cold moth]

For lore..come to read some chat..then go back to gen

[charred heath]

gen is too overwhelming for me 😅 you guys seem really nice here

[golden cave]

Where sky is in dark version

[kind moat]

i'm usually here and beta

[neat flint]

Same

[golden cave]

Lore and news only

[cold moth]

The best time to get in lore chat when time like this, near to new season

[charred heath]

if i end up spending more time here i’d love some beta/lore friends if people are open to it :3

[bitter shale]

Okay so

I have seen soemone here making a list of each realms' symbolity? Like Valley = coorperation/teamwork. Can anyone listed all of it again?

[golden cave]

Yeah moreover if someone remember where ktjn dropped a ‘bomb’ in news

[cold moth]

Same as when tgc just slapp that teaser pic at news..i just lurking here at that time

[golden cave]

Until this channel got slowdown

[thin dirge]

Well, it was just a headcanon that each Elder once represented a certain trait?

[charred heath]

cool headcanon!

[bitter shale]

Its fine, i want to know it anyway

Since i have been thinking about something lately

Like, what if ecah realms have duality symbolity? Like Valley can represent co-op/teamwork, but can also symbolizing rivarly

[thin dirge]

Isle=Wisdom
Prarie=Life/Love of Life?
Forest=Innovation
Valley=Cooperation (used to, anyway)
Wasteland=Might
Vault=Knowledge

[bitter shale]

Rivalry

Uh

Idk the englsih

Prairie might can symbolizing ignorance? Idk why

[golden cave]

Maybe...
Isle=guider
Prairie=stockists
Forest = products
Valley = conjoined twins fashion
Gw=sports
Vault=library

[bitter shale]

gw is... sports?

More like military imo

[golden cave]

Nooo don’t believe me

[cold moth]

Gw more to war

[thin dirge]

My headcanon is that each Elder changed because of the cataclysm at Eden and destruction of civilisation

[golden cave]

Ahahahah

[bitter shale]

Hey its still a good theory lol

[cold moth]

And gw have a big factory

[golden cave]

So valley sports....GW military

[thin dirge]

Isle didn’t change, Prarie became lazy and ignorant because... depression?
Forest become cold, Valley started to have rivalry against each other when they’re meant to work as one, Wasteland lost his strength and Vault became more emotional than rational-

[charred heath]

kinda relevant i just noticed that there’s 7 figures at the beginning murals in Isle of Dawn...maybe a confidence but possibly represents the 7 elders?? (pre civilisation/destruction of civilisation)??

edit: i got photos of what i mean if anyone wants to see

[golden cave]

One destroyed factory turn to military factory

[thin dirge]

Isle didn’t change, Prarie became lazy and ignorant because... depression?
Forest become cold, Valley started to have rivalry against each other when they’re meant to work as one, Wasteland lost his strength and Vault became more emotional than rational-

[bitter shale]

A more... negative representation :
Isle= ?
Prarie= ignorance
Forest= regret
Valley= rivalry/jealousy
Wasteland= recklessness
Vault= ?

Help me with vault and isle-

[thin dirge]

Flow, look at my earlier messages

Flos*

[golden cave]

Vault of course is knowledge

Isle is guider....

[bitter shale]

Mhm...

Mmm

[cold moth]

interesting

[bitter shale]

I already read it

[golden cave]

Ouh negative....

Wait for isle maybe false guider?!!

[kind moat]

kinda relevant i just noticed that there’s 7 figures at the beginning murals in Isle of Dawn...maybe a confidence but possibly represents the 7 elders?? (pre civilisation/destruction of civilisation)??

edit: i got photos of what i mean if anyone wants to see
@charred heath send it my friend

[bitter shale]

Also, what is another name of emotional than rational?

Uh

[thin dirge]

Vault is probably denial? But that’s more headcanon-y for me-

[bitter shale]

Denial can fit!

[golden cave]

Denial.....they deny every story....

[kind moat]

i actually love vault elder, she looked sad and worn out

[thin dirge]

Denial is based off of my headcanon about what she went through and her mourning

[golden cave]

Can’t accept death and make life hologram

[bitter shale]

For isle tho... im not so sure... since its like the start of everything, maybe its like no knowledge/unknowness?

[thin dirge]

Ooh

Emptiness?

[golden cave]

I can’t find negative side of isle

[thin dirge]

Idk

[bitter shale]

What is another name for innocence

[thin dirge]

Wait, emptiness!

[kind moat]

isle, innocence?

[thin dirge]

Cause Isle is empty

[bitter shale]

Emptiness for isle?

OH EYAH

[thin dirge]

It’s the most empty realm

[golden cave]

Emptiness.....but is that enough?

[thin dirge]

And Isle represents new beginnings, which is often a blank slate-

[golden cave]

Only emptiness sometime it will be positive or negative

[bitter shale]

A more... negative representation :
Isle= Emptiness
Prarie= Ignorance/Laziness
Forest= Regret
Valley= Rivalry/Jealousy
Wasteland= Recklessness
Vault= Denial

[kind moat]

i love that regret.

[golden cave]

Ouh yeah it should be .....it’s filled with negative side

Then goes on

[thin dirge]

Forest is more like... bitterness?

[charred heath]

i got chills - that’s awesome!

[bitter shale]

Dunno.. i cant find another name more than regret that will fit forest...

[thin dirge]

Yeah, bitterness, cold

[kind moat]

oh. bitterness seems good

[thin dirge]

bitterness fits

[bitter shale]

Hmmm, toic?

Atoic

Stoic

[thin dirge]

Nah, doesn’t fit...

[kind moat]

or greed

[golden cave]

Forest more like cheating in concept art

[bitter shale]

A more... negative representation :
Isle= Emptiness
Prarie= Ignorance/Laziness
Forest= Bitterness
Valley= Rivalry/Jealousy
Wasteland= Recklessness
Vault= Denial

[kind moat]

they're all greedy honestly ahaha

[bitter shale]

Hmm, that would do

[cold moth]

Forest..tsundere ok that's weird

[thin dirge]

Wasteland is more like weakness

[bitter shale]

Tsundere mama?

[golden cave]

Yeah when we come to teenage age we’ll feel every bitterness

[bitter shale]

Recklessness can do too tbh, since its war

Might can lead to recklessness

Or is taht even a word idk-

[kind moat]

hmm. wasteland is pretty good tbh, his concept was amazing

[charred heath]

those negative emotions kinda categorising the life stages really well...

[kind moat]

he sacrificed himself just to protect us

[charred heath]

7 ‘entities’...for 7 elders? 7 seasonal spirits?- possibly a just coincidence

finally sent!

[golden cave]

@charred heath omg it’s true

[thin dirge]

Isle=Emptiness
Prarie=Sloth (Lazy)
Forest=Bitterness
Valley=Rivalry
Wasteland=Weakness (fits what stage of life GW represents
Vault=Denial

[bitter shale]

What if elders once a human but when the stars fell their physical body got taken and possesed by the stars???

[cold moth]

Maybe that murals just for general info from what previous people do

[golden cave]

I mean that category